Liverpool Banter Archive February 17 2012
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17 Feb 2012 23:12:13
Liverpool are nearly a top 4 team. Despite this, Liverpool will not attract the top players this summer. It is now time for Liverpool to find some quality players that are currently hidden from the radar of bigger clubs. Spanish, French and German leagues would be good places to look along with the npower championship or league 1.
Id also be looking at Dutch football.
17 Feb 2012 22:28:38
Apparently they sang in Dutch:
"we're not racist we just hate Mancs"
Could have come from the Kop that one!
1) It appears that the poster watched Ajax played the team from Stretford - shame on you!
2) I didn't watch the match but I can (unfortunately) assure you that Dutch supporters don't hate mancs (I take it you mean fans of the club from Stretford). In fact it is one of the first English results that they look for because Yarp Stamm, fon der monn, and Edwin van der Sar used to play for them.
3) They were just doing what 99% of supporters do all over the world - trying to wind up the opposition.
Dutchmal
Are you on our side Dutchmal?
Of course he is. He's just telling it how it is.
I'm sure that we have supporters in the Netherlands, as we do in any other country, but don't be so naive as to assume that the negative sentiment we have for Utd goes for people in other countries.
Dutchmal, well done my fantaschtic friend on supporting the best club in the World!
Redjinal
Redjinal the original poster stated the obvious really! Luis is held in very high esteem at Ajax! they were playin against the team that caused all the aggro for him! so i gather that the majority of Ajax fan's do dislike the scum! it sounded like Dutchmal was puttin the original post down as every opposin fan do'es it! when there was clearly a sentiment to the fan's who sung it!
I didn't watch the game but spoke with an Ajax supporter who was at the match. The song was sung by Ajax supporters to demonstrate their feelings regarding the Suarez Evra affair according to this fan. I am sure it was not a demonstration of national sentiment but rather more like terrace banter.
Dutchmal and Redjinal you need to lighten up lads!
SwissRed
I don't know who has written the first answer so I can't honestly answer him unless he is like me a LIVERPOOL fan. Here in Holland I have met in 30+ years very few people who regularly to League matches. Unlike in England the loyalty is to the National team and not the clubs..They also tend the progress of all in the top Dutch players abroad and have no dislike for any club. It was more that they want to see their own nationals play well abroad so that they can play well when they are in big tournaments etc.
Dutchmal
I Watched a documentary on Dutch football violence among supporters a couple of years ago and the Top Dutch teams have a Hardcore of supporters just like any other top European Clubs that follow them home and away. Hate has to start somewhere and Ajax supporters don't like what has been happening. So from now "They do Hate the Mancs"
kidmillions
Dutchmal, surely Ajax supporters are still in good relations with Suarez though? Its like Uruguay are all taking Suarez side too, he's reasonably popular given how controversial he is.
Hello Swiss Red. In what way should we lighten up? I am always speaking to Ajax and Feyenoord fans and they all think that the whole affair was over the top and wonder what the fuss is about. I don't know what the chant was about but I'll just say that Ajax players and fans are the subject of racial abuse whenever the above-named teams meet. If any fans have a dislike for Manchester United it is because of that club's (and in particular Ferguson) treatment of Yarp en fon der monn.
Dutchmal
Kidmillions - I also watched that documentary - I watch Dutch television every day - my granddaughter is even watching it now! The worst club is ADO Den Haag (a version of Millwall) and there are other hooligans (as they are now called here) who arrange fights before matches - Ajax and Feyenoord being the biggest offenders - but the hatred is somehow kept inside the border. The fact is that outside Holland the fans are well-known for their good humour and (more importantly) their good behaviour. Please don't try and create hatred where there is none - it doesn't do you any credit.
Dutchmal
Who is fon der monn ?? lol
Fon der monn is ruud van nisselrooij (rooy von nissleroy) and not VAN THE MAN.
Dutchmal
Sorry - it should be root fon nissleroy
Well said Dutchmal I will take your word for it, over those posters who are willing reality to be like the fantasy in their heads!
I took a trip to the Ajax Amsterdam Arena last year for a guided tour. i was impressed by the stadium and the guide told us about some of the hooligan activity, great stories! all that before returning to my favourite coffeeshop near Leidesplein (spelling). A good day out!
Gav
Dutchmal I wasn't trying to create hatred, was just saying Dutch supporters are passionate about club football and not just International. Was probably bit strong saying they hate the mancs! They probably just don't like them at the moment.
kidmillions
kidmillions
17 Feb 2012 22:26:20
Ed-is there any truth in the rumours doing the rounds about Torres not wanting to leave last year? It sounds a bit suspect given his attitude on the pitch or is it just hopeful speculation he will return.
source from club drivers hearing in car conversations. {Ed001's Note - he had a funny way of showing he didn't want to leave if it is true. But a lot of people are of the opinion he was just trying to get his own way and the club called his bluff. Who knows for sure? Only he really knows if his sulking and ultimatums were because he wanted out or not.}
Whatever it was it has had very bad impact on his game! we'll have to wait for his autobiography!
I wonder if his autobiography will be as thin as his latest book: 'My Season of Goals 2011-12'?
cozinoz
He wanted to leave for a 'bigger club to win trophies'
Good luck with that girly boy.
Chuck Norris
Chuck, maybe for champions league football? with city, utd, spurs, arsenal and chelsea all ahead of liverpoo for at least the next 2-3 years.....
J-RED
Don't flatter yourself J-Red, your team is declining performance wise and Fergie will be gone eventually. You'll be a top 8 team at best in 4-5 years.
Oh and before your manc arrogance kicks in, look at Arsenal barely surviving. The same club that was invincible 8 seasons ago, if it wasn't for Wengers youth actually coming good (Huge risk) Arsenal wouldn't be in the top half. So think before you respond as I know when the time comes you'll jump ship along with 90% of United supporters.
Haha I guess we'll have to wait 8 years to see if you're theory pans out, eh, noname?
Nice try
Maybe United will be poor ONE DAY, who knows, anything is possible I guess!
I mean theres a hill in South Wales where your car drifts up it if you leave your hand break off, lol!
Anyway, point is Liverpool are poor NOW
Gav
17 Feb 2012 21:41:47
Thank you to my family, my friends and everybody at LFC (the staff, manager and coaching staff, the directors, my team mates and everyone who is working on a daily basis for this great club) and thank you especially to all the fans who made sure I never felt let down for one second. During those days I understood more than ever what 'You'll Never Walk Alone' means.
The only thing I wish for at the moment is being able to run out again at Anfield and to do what I like most which is playing football.
Thank you very much.
YNWA
Author: Luis Alberto Suarez
The above comments have been taken from Luis Suarez's comments dated the 3rd Jan. Yes I know it's been almost 8 weeks since he made these comments. However, given his recent comments on twitter do you really think Luis feeling's towards our club and all involved have changed? Personally I don't.
I think we should show him exactly how we love and value him starting this coming Sunday. Forget the handshake issue last week. At the end of the day Blatter was slaughtered for suggesting racisit comments should be dealt with by a handshake! The Evra incident is now in the past and both clubs will now move on.
Hopefully the club will have had sit down talks with Luis this week and explained how they would like to see him behave from now on and what is acceptable and what isn't. Everyone and I mean everyone, makes mistakes in life the big thing is to learn from them, so you don't make the same mistake again, personally I think he will.
For those saying his a liability to the club why, for standing by HIS principles,then I don't agree. Yes he is hot headed and unpredicatable at times, but he is also a player of genius - do you think whiskey nose would have made those comments last week if this whole incident would have involved for example Jay Spearing or Aurellio?.....
Give me a man of principle every time, which Luis is (I know the handball on the line but it was the World Cup!!) or would you sooner have a Rooney/Tevez type character playing for us?? no me either.
We have always supported our players through good and bad, because they were our players - Jan Molby anyone? - Just in case you have forgotten read Luis comments again and maybe, just maybe you will realise Luis loves the club just as much as you and me.......- TMac
Players are like politicians these days - they have speech writers - believe nothing attributed to any of them as it's all PR
I'm willing to take what ever he says at face value, for now this isnt the talk of someone who wants out regardless of who his PR agency is. We support him regardless. YNWA
PDUK
17 Feb 2012 21:38:51
Hi fellow Redmen. I have noticed in the betting King Kenny is third favourite in the Premier League to be sacked. Yes he has handled the Suarez affair poorly but to me he has done what only good managers do and protect his players. Yes some of his signings have been questionable for the amount we paid but at the end of the day when you have money other teams want top dollar and let's give them chance to bed in properly. I think third to be sacked is harsh esp when you've got boas, wenger, coyle, kean, woy, mc leish, martinez and moyes across the park who has not won a trophy in ten years have done a lot poorer than the man who has got us in the carling cup final, playing some nice football and steadied the ship more than Woy..Anyway word on the street is The King will be moved on in the summer and the shortlist has been made.
You need an A-Z, mate - youre on the wrong street
Im not a professional, however isn't £35 mil and £20 for Carroll and Downing, slightly more than questionable?
J-RED
Veron 28m
Berbatov 20m
Bebe 7.5m
Carrick 23m
Anderson 18m
Hargreaves 20m
Taibi - Worst goalkeeper ever.
Yeah Fergies record is brilliant, don't worry I tried to keep it within 13 years, I know you won't reckonise half of those players.
Berbatov was actually 30.75million. Sorry for correcting you although it does make it sound even more laughable
"Berbatov was actually 30.75million. Sorry for correcting you although it does make it sound even more laughable"
Who was joint scorer in PL last season?
How many PL titles has he won with United?
Oh and finally...how much did Carroll cost?
Gav
17 Feb 2012 21:06:16
I, for one, am optimistic about our chances for 4th... If you look at our schedule, if we can get past Arsenal, then Everton, then we should get 3 points from our remaining games... Our schedule sets up nicely for a late push for a CL spot...
YNWA USA
I kinda agree actually! I think our remaining fixtures are maybe better than Newcastle, Chelsea or areanals. I know you shouldn't really underestimate any team but I don't see why we can't get maximum points out of our remaining games. At our best we should be able to win each of them, so I think a push for a champions league place may be possible! But even if there isn't there's still the next season were we're sure to improve. The futures definitely bright!
Kelly23
Those games that we SHOULD have gotten 3 points from this season, have mainly been the ones where we have been left disappointed. We cant just look at the teams we are playing against, see they are in the bottom half of the table and mark them as win, as we have struggled to break down many poor teams this season (bolton, stoke, swansea, norwich etc etc). So for me we really haven't done enough this season to break into top four for me and we'll have to sit out champs league again.
pete
At Christmas I would've agreed but it isn't the big teams we have struggled against (Everton excluded)
Gazman
17 Feb 2012 20:45:19
Eds,
do you think mario gomez would have made a good signing if we did get him january a year ago?
cheers
mike {Ed001's Note - yes, he is very suited to English footie, in my opinion.}
But we chose Carroll instead *yawn*... {Ed001's Note - no, Bayern rejected a 35m offer for Gomez.}
We were very, very close to having Gomez on a season-long loan on deadline day August 2010 under Roy. That would have been interesting...
17 Feb 2012 19:57:07
We all need to now get behind Luis Suarez. Whilst handshake gate was unwise he has made a public apology and it is time to move on.
In his position I personally would have found it difficult to shake the hand of a person if I truly believed that they had lied about me , manipulated a situation and seriously damaged my reputation. I also would find it very difficult to shake the hand of the individual pulling the strings in the backround _ alex ferguson.
In my mind ferguson is a hypocritical(1),manipulative(2), shyster(3)
1 Ferguson says we should sell Suarez as he is a disgrace to LFC, well thats a bit rich coming from him. Cast your minds back, Blackmore, Giggs, Ferdinand, Cantona,Schmiechel all have brought disgrace to Mufc in the past, none were got rid of. The only players he got rid of were ones he had personal isssues with, Van Nistelrooy, Stam. The man is so two faced he is freakin' bipolar.
2 He will manipulate any situation if he gets some advantage from it and he doewn't care how low he stoops to do it. He also only does it in situations where he feels threatened. Remember the verbal battles with Mourinho, Wenger, Benitez. Have you ever seen him playing these games with a Sunderland or a Fulham? no. Did you see him having any battles with LFC under Woy? no becuse an LFC under Woy was no threat to him.
I will tell you this, Ferguson is more threatened by an LFC under Dalglish than he has been of any LFC team in the last 20 years. I have said this before, Man Utd would not have 19 titles if KK had never left LFC 20 years ago - not even close.
Fergusons empire is ready to crumble, he has not got enough time left to build another team and with the financial situation at manu and the ffp rules he cannot buy a team either. They may get a bit of success in the next couple of years but their glory days are ohver.
3. no need to explain.
I believe the future is bright for LFC, a future that KK and Luis Suarez will be a big part of. No debt on the club, ffp rules, good ownership who will develop the club and take it in the right direction.
KK and Luis Suarez, you will never walk alone.
The Liver Bird
Great post!
Red&Bred
Such an unbiased opinion
I agree with every word LiverBird; spot on.
ND
On the money liver bird
gee man
Let us not forget him deciding against a sportsman's handshake with Wenger
17 Feb 2012 19:26:07
I for one can say i am really happy with what Kenny is doing. This is his first full season in charge, he has severely reduced the outgoings from wages etc, got rid of older, 'deadwood' players, and brought in a crop of young talent which he will mould into terrific players. Remember everyone that this is the first year of redevelopment, NOT a quick fix, and every single player who wears the jersey wants to play for our fantastic club, not the dollar (which couldnt be said last season).
Everyone get behind the whole club and im sure we can finish the season with 2 trophies and 4th spot. Cheers. In Kenny we trust, YNWA ....Roblfc86
Well said rob.
Ozone
Got rid of the old deadwood and replaced it with younger deadwood - yeah
Agree apart from the players brought in, no one can say Henderson, Downing, Carroll have even come close to earning their price tags so far. The facts are their: very few goals, few assists and i'm not sure if any of them have got MOTM (not totally sure though).
Beano
Transfer dealings have been poor most of the time. Only one who is champions league quality is Suarez, Enrique has also played well the majority of the time but the rest are not good enough..
I don't know if most of the above have noticed but we didn't even make the Europa league last season?!? The players we have brought in are improving, they are and never were a 'quick fix' for all you glory hunters..
I'm glad we are on the way back and can't wait to see us back in Europe BUT I'm also glad we have got players who want to play for us and not just the money.
Sick to death of people whining about the same things over and over again. Go and have a 'one man band' over citeh you morons!
Myk (that's what we call signing a post by the way)
Earning their price-tags, Beano? Does andy have to be twice as good as Hendo and 7 or 8 times better than Skrtl? Their price-tags mean nothing except to the press and people like you. They should all be expected to play to the best of their abilities not to their price-tags.
cozinoz
17 Feb 2012 19:25:15
Can someone explain to me why the most rumours on the website are about suarez going? Lets keep positive!
YNWA
17 Feb 2012 18:37:21
some fans amaze me with their comments on Suarez, hang your heads!
Some fans are just Open minded & loyal to the Club firstly and not Blinkered and made to look silly by Sticking up for
someone when blatantly in the Wrong.
That's why alot of the press are having a go for that exact reason.
Lyndon
Well there are 7 people who disagree with you on that one.
k-h
Lyndon, he was in the wrong and apologised, now lets support the players and the team rather than talking about selling are best players. Also for you to use the press as a way to back yourself up is just silly mate. They slag us off for anything, always have done always will do. Mabye some of us arent "blinkered" enough to believe what the press says and to agree with it or care.
JFT96
Smithy
Well said lyndon
Read the independent panel's report before you make crass and stupid comments............- TMac
And who is blatantly in the wrong, exactly? What is being open minded about believing all the drivel written in the press? Use your brain for a change there Lyndon. Nick.
We have to be big enough to acknowledge when we are wrong, and not let the press or Fergie do the work for us. For they certainly do not have our best interests at heart. Protecting the reputation of LFC is the responsibility of LFC.
Smithy I see you point and am not saying The Press have not gone overboard. But the Hundreds of People going Oliver Holts twitter page and saying some of the things they have to him and about are not good. No team even the Mancs wouldn't of got away without stick over this when the subject Was the big "R". My opinion of Suarez as only weakened after last Saturday. When he let LIVERPOOL FC down
Lyndon
Cheers for the advice Nick!
Lyndon
Nick, did you read the comprehensive FA report? The decision WAS ACCEPTED as it was not appealed.
J-RED
Playing the media Game isnt doing spurs any arm at the minute is it. Companies are fighting to sponsor them. You have the "false" cheeky cockney chappy Redknapp helping them by being the darling of the press. That's my only argument just play the game.
Lyndon
17 Feb 2012 17:26:03
We need to win by about 5 goals on Sunday can you imagine the abuse we will get if we lose or only win by 1 goal.
MJ
Why do we need to win by 5?.. its a cup match.. Ill take 1-0 anyday at the moment..
ItsNotRocketScience
That is showing a highly disrespect to Brighton, they are a good time
A win guarantees we're 1 game a way from another wembley visit ,so it doesn't matter how many we win by.
Woodi lietoyeh
So No-one else feels we need to make a statement to show we are fighting for a cup?
MJ
Not ar$ed about abuse if we win 1 - 0. Abuse from who anyway? If we win 1 - 0 , 84 other league teams will be jealous. A win is a win. We don't get extra credit in the For and Against columns like in the league.
Sean
Bah, I'd take a win and a professional performance. I'd rather win 1-0 with some of the younger players in the squad then 5-0 with full strength.
Besides teams always punch above their weight at this stage of the FA cup.
But hell if we do win 5-0 i wont complain!
No more statem
Woodilietoyeh 1 game away from another wembley visit? we're in the last 16 so if we win then it's another 2 game's then the final! how many shandy's have you had?
No more statements, we just need to keep our heads down and go about our business.
KNEE JERK
The semi's are played at wembley too ain't they?
x
17 Feb 2012 17:05:30
Why don't we just host the next commonwealth games and get a stadium that way -McMenrmy
What about Everton ?
The Real KB
Because that's easy to do
17 Feb 2012 16:56:01
Sell Suarez! get as much money as possible, he has ruined his chances in england along with Tevez. The two of them should go elsewhere (PSG maybe) they are loaded and given evras rep in france suarez would go down a treat, not sure about Tevez though
Shut up you fool...He will stay and he will be fine
MJ
Yawn
ItsNotRocketScience
Is that you Alex ?
MJ the writing's on the wall mate! he will go!
Nah its not me son
The club won't make any rash decisions. I think if Suarez can behave til the end of the season, the smoke will blow over and he will stay another year at least. The Barca/Real itch will come but that's inevitable until Kenny makes us the biggest club in the world again.
Chuck Norris
17 Feb 2012 16:51:26
Funny Pepe Reina advert
www.youtube.com/watch?v=okYv9Tbu5OQ
Rocky
I posted that hours ago
Good, but I think Bruce Grobbelaar's paddy power ad just edges it mate
Cuchulainn's Hounds
Some one please make a banner about this in kop pleeeease.
KNEE JERK
17 Feb 2012 16:29:01
i was watching the barcelona vs bayer game and thiago looked really good, he has the physique to last in the premier league. o i think we should bid for him. please reply but no sarcastic comment.
So you really think that he'll upstick's and leave the champion's of europe as they'll win it again and join us who'll be playin in the europa league? ok!
He has a buy out clause of 80mil
Shanio1
17 Feb 2012 16:21:24
i think if liverpool were offered between 40 to50 million for suarez they would take it and then invest it into 2 or 3 clinical and skillful strikers {Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen.}
Perhaps chelsea may offer 70m this time as they're always givng us plenty of money
Well someone did offer 50 million for suarez
Torres not Suarez...sorry
No big club could afford to touch suarez.would harm them commercially
Thats very neagative
Davo1
We'd probably blow that money on some more sh**ty mid table strikers anyway
17 Feb 2012 16:06:06
Hi guys Arsenal fan here. Great to see this club challenging again at the front end of the table as IMO The greatest English club with History. I also remember that you lost to Northampton Town last year but this year you'll win the carling cup. Can I ask a question. What was the specific reason behind your short term success. Is it down to Kenny Dalglish, The owners or something else because it is definately great to see this club in the map again.
Islington Gooner
I thnk we may just be seeing the begining of the end of arsenal this summer.
Bye Wenger, Bye RVP, Bye Wallcott, Bye Wilshere. Opps Bye Bye Arsenal !
Wow, what a horrendous answer to a genuinely interesting point of conversation between fans of two similar clubs who have been, or are potentially in a bit of bother.
I would imagine a lot of our on field successes have been down to the changes in coaching methods which Clarke & Keen have brought in.
We're also beginning to really see the benefit of the new medical team at the club, which I seem to remember people moaning about a few months ago, but we have had very few injuries compared to other clubs.
But of all that, I believe the attitude at the club has shifted, and with that we have seen the players actually play for the badge rather than the paycheque. This is down to every person at the club, from John Henry down to the Anfield cat!
There's a lot of positives for the future aswell for us to look forward to, as in the growth and potential development of exciting prospects from the youth and reserves (same thing nowadays), and the whole new/refurbished stadium.
I think it is down to getting everyone on the same side , if any one person is not fully behind the plans then they wont work. so if you wont your lot to move on get behind them and see what happens .cheers psv
Cant believe the first reply to the original poster! if we get stick off other fan's well they deserve to get it back! but that original post was very polite and did'nt merit that reply! to the Gooner who sent that post all i can say is Sorry! we're not all like that!
You clowns the original poster was taking the piss with his comment, Remembers us getting beat by northampton oh right that was a compliment yea., Wake up fools and see they take the urine when they come on here and talk like that. An horrendous answer and cant believe the first reply haha you 2 are deluded lads !
No problem glad to see your answers and the first replier well i just take as banter
Islington Gooner
Islington Gooner was just pointing out how low we went under Hodgson! if you look at his post he call's us the Greatest English club with history! are you so defensive in life?
First reply highlights the "us against the world" attitude that some have. It's not healthy and people need to get over it. I also think the club need to get someone in to help with our PR which was terrible during the race row.
Chuck Norris
17 Feb 2012 15:57:06
Why do people keep saying Suarez is gonna leave, he has no intension of leaving and the club would be silly to get rid of him... Suarez is pure class and this whole racism thing is blown way out of porportion by the media, but Suarez is his own worst enemy, he puts himself in these situations so he just needs to learn from his mistakes, but people need to move on now... The media are once again trying to get these stories out when there's a bit of controversity, PSG amongst every other team in world football would obviously be interested in buying Suarez, he's a class footballer but he wont be sold and Liverpool wont sell under any circumstances. If we added 2 or 3 more world class players with Lucas returning to the side next season we'll challenge for the title and i'm sure we'll get 4th place this season for Champions League qualifying spot. Lets just all get behind the team and push them forward, hopefully this season we bring home the two cups :D
Rocky
Selling suarez wud be a massive step backwards for the club. If he does leave, he will be replaced with de jong or barrios who r not even half the player suarez is.
Indian Buzzer
LFC selling Luis is not an option! Luis wanting to go would be another problem! we could'nt stop him!
Players come and go. We hear of impending doom whenever a player is sold. We will move on.
I can not see liverpool selling suarez in the summer i know hes done wrong in some ways but its like if i have a car thats worth xxx amounts but i crash i and de-values it by half the amount its worth id fix if up 1st be4 i sell it so what im saying is if he does go it'll be his own decision not liverpools as the owners did say when they talked about players there has to be good re-sale value on players so to sell in the summer would silly when his value has dropped
RedBob
17 Feb 2012 15:53:28
Is anyone else annoyed that every decent player in the world is 'linked' with Man U, Man C, the Milan's, Barca and Real Madrid (oh, and Juventus too.....). I understand that the british media likes to conjure up these stories (which are typically BS), but being a Canadian I don't know why this is interesting to anyone. I read the ESPN football page regularly, and every second news column is about transfer rumours. Yes, american site, but all rumours are taken from the british media. What is the deal? Please, british friends, explain to me?!
In North American sports, when there is a 'rumour' of a player trade, etc., it almost always bears fruit. Everybody already knows that the wealthy teams want the best players, so what does it add to constantly post 'news columns' about various interest in players from same team. For example, just now, on the same webpage, Man United are 'interested' in Goetze and Ericksen. Ofcourse they are! Which teams aren't interested? They are great players!
Before you rip me apart, remember that Canada is still in the british commonwealth! British media just seems a little whack for me.
Canadian Red.
Your pretty much spot on with saying the British media is 'whack' mate.
Stuff gets literally made up to sell papers and not just with the footballing aspect of life. I gave up on newspapers years ago and I'm only 25 now!
davethebutcher
They only want to sell papers so don't care what drivel they dish up
ESPN under sly sports banner. me thinks?
Sooo going to be an un-realiable source...
but hits on web sites generates income.
Phooey
You're very right nobody will rip you apart. Our press is embarrasing I think we'd rather you didnt read it.
We dont!
PDUK
17 Feb 2012 15:49:48
This is going to sound crazy...but it may happen, Liverpool are in fact trying to sign Evra and Evra reacted badly...that is what Suarez is talking about "all is not as it seems" Evra led Comoli on and then he struck with the character assassination plot that was mastered by Fergie to say FU to us cant believe it but it is true...source is in witness protection now..
Your right.... crazy!
Why would we want that... bleep bleep bleep... here when we have Jose?
Phooey
Do you smoke Crack by any chance?
MJ
N e chance? lol!
17 Feb 2012 15:46:48
I really think people should back off with the Hodgson criticism. He came in a bad time with the club, and he was not responsible for the 'dark times'. He made a few questionable purchases, with limited funds. Kenny steps in, changes attitudes a bit and then becomes a hero. Now, a year out, Kenny faces the same issues that Hodgson is accused of. Perhaps the problem is the fans?? I personally think this:
Benitez was excellent coach, who would have built a PL winner had he the right backing. He made some bad purchases, but which manager hasn't?
Hodgson we will never know. His reign was at a low point in the club, and he really never had much opportunity. He was a nice person, and has had success at other clubs. Perhaps we were too hard on him?
Kenny: I am most worried about Kenny since he is an icon at Liverpool, and it will be a tough pill to swallow if he fails and has to be let go. Kenny took on a challenge, and the jury is still out as to whether or not it was a success or not.
In summary, we the fans are let down by the height of our own expectations. Blaming the manager is the easiest solution, but it doesn't help the club win games. We could just as easily blame the owners for sanctioning the various transfer 'flops' as blame Kenny. I could go on, but it would be pointless. I love reading this site, and as far as I can tell, there are equal number of fans who support any given idea as ones who oppose it.
We may not get a CL spot this year, and infact, I would argue it is unlikely at this point. A Carling Cup trophy will still bring a smile to my face. This was a rebuilding year. Next year will be better. I am already building my expectations for next season.......
Coop
Ummmm...... who is talking about Hodgson?
Coop Hodgson knew he would'nt be here that long! he wanted the sack after the derby at Goodison! you were right about Rafa! givin the right backin we would of been champion's! but it's all if's and but's now! Kenny is still work in progress! but he's on the right path! first cup final in 5 year's! and hopefully another!
Oh sorry. Ed 19 did a few posts down. Not much otherwise, recently, but whenever someone questions Kenny, someone steps in and points out bad it was with Hodgson. I don't have time to read every post every day, and sometimes just post what's on my mind. It is banter right?
Coop
17 Feb 2012 15:45:07
Hi guys just a thought,but with portsmouth goin into administration then wouldnt it be a good idea for a top team to buy the club and put all the reserves and/or youngsters in the team so that they can get good physical games,and be ready to play in the 1st team. {Ed002's Note - That is not allowed.}
17 Feb 2012 14:52:39
Just a question for the ED's.
For various reasons I remain unconvinced by Kenny Dalglish and his management on and off the pitch at Liverpool. His tactics have been very questionable (backed up by many disappointing results and performances in the league) and his transfer business (though I know it's a shared burden these days) has been largely poor. Especially in terms of value for money.
I also find any interview with him to be cringe worthy. He hasn't made any friends since his return and doesn't seem able to answer a question normally - even to the official website. Every response has a sour and sarcastic undertone. I know he has to deal with the rubbish the media throw at him but it's the same for every manager and I just feel his has made trouble for himself.
He's not a bad manager by any means and if the club want to replace him then it has to be with a young manager who has a track record of success (certainly recent) in high pressure situations.
For me, that's Pep Guardiola. He is the man I want to see reshape Liverpool. According to various journalists like Guillem Balague, Graham Hunter and the man himself, he could end up leaving Barcelona for a new challenge in the near future.
With that in mind, do you believe he would consider Liverpool ahead of rival clubs in England and Italy?
Thanks {Ed019's Note - I don't understand your problem with Kenny, he brought us out of dark times with Hodgson, cut down the wage bill by getting rid of deadwood and bringing in players who wanted to play for Liverpool. As for his interviews, I think they are brilliantly taken (except his most recent one). As for Guardiola, I have no idea whether he would take Liverpool over rival clubs if he had the opportunity.}
Dalglish was brought in to achieve several things:- Weed ot the squad - in process and continuing. Lay foundations for future - In process and continuing, Stabilise the club - Done, Heavy investment in youth - commenced and continuing. "Barely 18 months into our new owners tenure, and 12 months after a new manager was hired and 6 months after a major squad revamp, and we're on the edge of the top 4, expecting Brighten in the FA Cup, and Cardiff in the final of the League Cup. Were we expecting Adam and co, led by a manager 20 years out of the game to lead us top top four glory in the first season? No we were expecting progress to be made while changing the attitude of the club from on that saw us get knocked out of the Carling Cup by Northampton Town FC. One season later we are in the Carling Cup final, and have just knocked Manchester United out of the FA Cup. In the league, we are undefeated at home, and hold one of the best defenses in the league." We have started our journey. We are moving in the right direction. We have a long long way to go and we will suffer setbacks along the way. But we will get there. RED LENIN
Perhaps if you thought before you posted you would recall the dreadful time that KK had after the Hillsborough disaster in April 1989. He found it very difficult to deal with the grief and it resulted in his leaving LFC. The media contributed to this in no little part which probably accounts for KK's barely concealed contempt for the press especially those elements associated with News International.
Redpath
What exactly dont you understand ed, where sitting 7th in the league, staring no champions league in the face yet again. As for the wage bill .... pfff {Ed001's Note - the wage bill has been cut massively, we have had to offload a lot of players not good enough for us and we are trying to replace them with better ones. It takes time, your lack of patience is embarrassing. You obviously are a bit clueless if you think you can turn round a team on the verge of relegation and turn them into regular Champions League challengers within a year. Foundations take time to build, unless you just slap them in with no care of how long they will last.}
Most people would agree that Redknapp is doing a really good job at Spurs he's got a good squad together but he hasn't actually won anything yet apart from manager of the year and he's in his 3rd full season Kenny is only in his 1st.
Palacios,Crouch,Keane,Bassong these 4 alone our Arry spent over 40 million on.
But he's also made some great buys so my point is, if it was up to people like you Arry woudn't have lasted 5 miutes at Spurs. So lay off Kenny and let him get on with putting us back where we belong " At the Top"
kidmillions
The mere thought that we were relegation candidates at one point last year makes me feel sick.
Adam
I don't have a problem with Kenny. The man is and always will be a legend.
I simply remain unconvinced that he is the answer. Our team looks so rigid and outdated despite spending a lot of money in 2011. These purchases (like Henderson, Carroll, Adam and Downing) were all made with the long term future of the club in mind. To be honest, that is a sad thought because I don't believe they have the talent required to make consistent and significant contributions to a Liverpool side challenging amongst the elite both foreign and domestic.
We don't have any fluidity and we struggle to score even one goal per game. There's no craft or natural flair (Luis aside) and that means all the rebuilding done has made us a "solid" team at best.
I also fear that Kenny will always prefer British signings because he'll find it easier to relate to them and communicate with them. If we take this route, we're in massive trouble because there is no value for money. The best players are abroad and the players we've lost in recent years (Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, Hyypia and even the likes of Benayoun and Riera) have not been replaced adequately.
What we've shown this season is that we're a team of small ego's who can play up to the underdog status. We'll give the best teams (our rivals) the sternest of tests each and every time but when other teams do that to us, we don't have sufficient quality or an established pattern of play to break through.
Even under Benitez (a "defensive manager") we still looked like (and did) give the lesser teams a good hammering at Anfield. We kept possession for longer periods and were more clinical.
Now we have the worst chance-conversion ratio in the league and have scored a pitiful amount of goals. This despite breaking the club transfer record twice on two strikers and a further £40m+ on midfielders who statistically "proved" they could create chances.
Yes, we're in the Carling Cup final. That's great, really. I'm looking forward to it but for me, it just goes to prove my point about being a "solid" team. Birmingham got to (and won) the final last year by being resolute in one-off games.
It's also frustrating that because we're talking about Kenny and his team that no-one will judge this team on merit. Kenny can do no wrong in the eyes of many and anyone who says so is not a fan and doesn't know what they're talking about.
His handling of the media has been quite poor since his return. I'm aware how disgraceful sections of the media can be but us fans hear from Kenny via those conferences and interviews. It wouldn't hurt him to be more affable because I can't be the only one who can't stand to listen to him.
As I said, I'm not suggesting we simply sack Kenny. What I'm saying is that if there is an opportunity to bring in a young, proven and hungry European manager this summer then I would grasp it with both hands. Replacing Rafa with Roy proved to be a complete disaster and misjudgement of epic proportions.
I'm suggesting that Liverpool would be best served by appointing a manager like Guardiola who can attract elite talent home and abroad and create a pattern of play to shape the new Liverpool. Adam won't turn into Iniesta and our team won't start playing champagne football overnight but at least we'll be working towards a proven way of winning in the modern era.
It comes down to the talent the team has and if we are going to continue to focus on British players to fit rigid systems then there's only so far that can get you, in my opinion.
I realise some may think I'm attacking Kenny by saying all of this but it's not my intention. I'm just stating my opinion. Thanks for all your replies though.
Spot on. Making cup finals are not a measure of a club; it is the league position and the style of play that matters. Portsmouth and Birmingham made cup finals recently.
Kenny has done a good job stabilizing the club. And this was one of the main reasons he was brought in. For this he deserves significant credit.
But like any manager, he will also be judged on our league position at season's end, and how we are playing. In that respect, the jury is still out. Often, our tactics look wrong. With respect to the signings - well they simply have not worked out so far.
My own preference is to start looking for a bright young manager now, and bring him into the fold, with Kenny still there in some capacity. Lambert and Rogers spring to mind.
Redpath,
Very well put and so very true.
The Liver Bird
Ed019 and RED LENIN the 04 05 season did you's expect us to get to the CL final never mind win it? i'll take your answer as No! how much did Rafa spend in that season? Alonso 10mil Luis Garcia 6mil Josemi 1,2mil Houllier had already bought Cisse and we got Nunez as part x with the traitor and we got 8mil as well! so net spend around 10mil ok we got 50mil for another traitor and 8mil for Babel that cover's Luis and Carroll in the summer we gave most of the crap free transfer's or loan's as club's would'nt give us a penny for them! Ngog 4mil Meireles 11mil El zar 1mil and 1mil for Konchesky that's 17mil Henderson 16mil Downing 20mil god forbid Adam 6.5mil Enrique 6.5mil Coates 7mil that add's up to 55mil and dont forget Rafa got to the league cup final in 05 too! So always expect the unexpected! and givin the money we've spent last summer we should be in a better position than what we are!
17 Feb 2012 14:25:13
Funny how the same people and football fans who have spent the past 6 weeks slagging off Luis Suarez and Liverpool FC are now wanting their club to buy him. For example its ok for him to play for Chelsea or Man City but his postion at Liverpool now and in the future is according to them untenable.
If he did go it certainly wont be to another premiere league team!
17 Feb 2012 14:19:06
If Suarez was to go to elsewhere in the summer who would you like his replacement to be? for me I'd like to see Sow along with a play maker like Hamsik.
The only player who seems similar to him is lavezzi
Muniain and de jong.
Indian Buzzer
With there bein a possiblity of Real Madrid bein suitor's i think gettin Benzema would account for 2/3's of compensatin our loss!
17 Feb 2012 14:08:37
mcCoist says Gers best fans in world>Understanable,we all like to think we are.And they are very passionate.But did they have the savvy and passion to organize themselves,in way LFC fans did,to bombard financial regulators,debters,creditors and all involved to act sooner and save their club from current situ?thats what makes LFC and its fans special!
I dont think the majority knew how bad their situation was
17 Feb 2012 13:32:55
hey lfc fans...
alex ferguson is doing his famous trick again...........walking up to eriksson of ajax and praising him.......anddddddddd doing the same on tv
haha it just makes me laugh...hes one shrewd old codger
oh well guys thats another one down the drain
by the way..that commoli is doing a tremendous job......hmmm
Manc muppet.... Have you not got your own site to go on!
The team need to perform better for Comolli to do his job better. I think Comolli has done very well in terms of seeking out talent. Especially young ones at that!
BthekingB
You must have been born in a barn Commoli has done nothing but bring in rubbish players
Yes because it worked with Manuel Neuer didnt it! Instead they have David De Gea a goal, all the best.
KNEE JERK
Eriksen to united what a person you are lad he's off to barca or madrid where he'll have a chance of winning the champs league ! By the way we won it 5 times
Will fungus nose take erikson to a hotel room behind ajax back and make him sign for the mancs like he did with jap stam ?
Commoli brought in coates, suarez, n henderson. They r not exactly rubbish r they? Its kenny's picks that r failing, not commoli's. Why take out ur frustration on commoli for the team's poor performances? Kenny is equally responsible, n he definitely isnt untouchable.
Indian Buzzer {Ed001's Note - you have no idea who chose which players, don't lie about it being all Commoli, because you don't know.}
Saying that a player is good, whether it be on TV or to the players face is not 'Shrewd'. It's just somebody saying that a player is good!? I've no doubt within a couple of years you would of joined a cult you're that easily impressed.
dd
Eriksson has publicly said he want's to play in Spain. So what's your point?
Indian Buzzer
What a pathetic attempt to try and gain support for your anti-Dalglish campaign.
How on earth do you know who recommended each player? Your blantantly lying in an attempt to belittle Kenny.
JRG
I know it's easier said than done but try and not let little thing's like that concernin Slur Alex Ferguscum bother ya! what he said against Luis was very wrong and should be libelous! and he knew by sayin what he did would be like a knife through the heart to all Red's! so if little thing's like him goin up to decent player to shake his hand irritate you he'd of won again! as like most Red's we've endured 26 year's of the "use your imagination on what i was goin to call him! dont want the ed's not to put this post up for use of foul language"
Lol Indian Buzzer busted big time for being a negative poster with no facts to back up his bullsh*t
cozinoz
Fine ed, i may not be exactly right about who signed which players, but what frustrates me is all the blame being thrown on commoli, when kenny is equally at fault. Just bcoz he is referred to as king doesnt make him untouchable.
Indian Buzzer {Ed001's Note - why didn't you just point out that the final decision on every transfer is Kenny's then?}
Btw JRG, im not implying kenny is crap, im implying there r better managers out there. Once kenny does his job of stabilizing the club, he shud make way for a younger manager.
Indian Buzzer
17 Feb 2012 13:27:11
I really think the work being put into the academy is worthwhile and will pay off. Reading an article about Cleverly made me realise how strong Cleverly and Welbeck make United. Those players would improve most teams and we need some players like them
I dont really rate cleverly when he was on loan in the championship he looked good but so do a lot of players at that level. Wellbeck is a great young player and has all the attributes to be a top forward
Cleverly had like 4 games at the beginning of the season and they weren't anything special against West Brom and most of the Man City charity shield match. He is overrated to no mans land. Welbeck on the other hand proved he was great at Sunderland and is now doing the same at Manchester United. He isn't as good as Berbatov - I don't know why MU don't play him more often - but he is a good prospect and atleast MU are willing to take a risk on their young strikers..
BthekingB
I think Jordan Henderson is a better player than Tom Cleverly. Jordan has been playing Premiership football for 2 years and played well, earning himself a move to Liverpool.
Cleverly is talented, but for me hasn't done too much to warrant all the hype around him.
RedSG
Tom Cleverly 1
Jordan 0
I really think Henderson is lacking confidence! he will come good!
17 Feb 2012 13:06:46
Lets look on the positive side the economy will have a major boost in manchester this weekend. I mean they can and watch there teams oh sorry i mean do plenty of shopping,knitting or even go to the pub to watch the fa cup.
Cheers
mighty reds
17 Feb 2012 12:46:31
Quick question. If we win the League cup does that not assure us a spot in The Europa League next year? I think its the best to hope for with most of our players playing like glifnards at the moment
~Diagne {Ed002's Note - It does.}
What an amazing word, you don't see this often 'glifnards'. Google it, it really is rather insulting.
17 Feb 2012 12:40:40
Your all deluded, we are not gunna make champs league this year. maybe lucky to get 7th.
We dont score enough goals!!
I know people will click disagree but its true unfortunately.
Harley
Been a fan 30 years, but sadly i totally agree. There have been glimpses of quality, albeit, 20 mins in a game. I think this stems from the management, confidence and the disruption of injuries and blind loyalty to incompatent players.
dave spain
The problem is a lack of tactical awareness from kenny.
7th no. 6th maybe. 5th most probable. 4th maybe.
BthekingB
Most likely 6th. Chelsea will get 4th, n newcastle will get 5th.
Indian Buzzer
17 Feb 2012 12:27:11
Any thoughts on the sundays starting 11, will KK persist in Downing , or has he finally seen sense ?
To quote todays Guardian: Stewart Downing often gives the impression of someone who'd be best at ease sitting x-legged inside a wardrobe with his hands over his ears ! B & Q here he comes !
dave spain
Think Downings already got a sunday job at edge lane, if the half-witted supervisor i encountered is anything to go by !
17 Feb 2012 12:14:48
Does anybody think this could take off?
Try to take him on then he'll own you..
When he pushes forward we know..
Hes got the moves Dan Agger
Hes got them moves Dan Agger
Hes got the moooo oooo oooves Dan Agger
??
Sam Adzii JFT96
What about:
Der der der Daniel Agger
der der der Daniel Agger
der der der der der der der der
Daniel Agger!!
Red Ollie
Actually it does sound nice. But somehow dan agger or daniel agger doesnt fit. Dagger, on the other hand......
Kaizer
17 Feb 2012 11:49:08
Just watched Luis' South Africa Documentary on YouTube, and it strikes me, that how can anyone call him a racist?
Shaking my head...
YoungRed {Ed002's Note - Nobody is calling him a racist.}
Ed, i really do not understand your POV on this racism thing. If one is charged with racially abusing someone, then one is a racist, pure and simple.
Saying that Suarez has not been accused of being racist yet charged for the same thing is totally disingenuous.
BooDaBooze {Ed002's Note - I have explained it on multiple occasions and I am sorry you cannot understand. You can be guilty of racially abusing someone without being a racist. Saying something in the heat of the moment etc.. Evra made it clear, the FA made it clear and the independent report made it clear that Suarez is not considered a racist. I don't know what else to say.}
Ed - you are informed and intelligent, so you aren't saying he is racist. Ask the vast majority of people, and they will say 'of course he's racist, he was found guilty by an independant panel, so he must be'. Very sad indeed. He will always have my support, I hope this PSG talk is just talk. Nick. {Ed002's Note - Evra said he was not a racist, I am saying he is not a racist, the FA are saying he is not a racist, the independent panel are saying he is not a racist. I cannot control what the majority think - at least not yet.}
Most people are ill-informed and can't be bothered to find out the facts Ed and are certainly calling him racist from what I can see.
Ash
YoungRed,
The panel determined that Suarez made a statement which had been construed to be racist. That does not make him a racist.
Gerrard has been sent off a couple of times for violent conduct do you consider him to be a violent person?
Nevada
Sorry,
My last comment was for BooDaBooze, sorry YoungRed for any confusion.
Nevada
I still feel the fallout from the decision to ban Suarez will linger long in that the reality is it was one persons word against another. Nobody else heard anything actually happen, and I personally feel it was a dark day for the FA when they passed the judgement. Milamber {Ed002's Note - The FA did not pass judgement.}
Unfortunately, that's what comes of people WANTING (any chance of itallics ed?) to use any instrument they can to inflame a disagreement on a very very emotionally sensitive issue.
As ed02 and ALL of the reports and its participants state, the findings are of using a particular term - not that they are racist. Thereby expressly NOT branding the individual as being racist.
It is simply easier against the deeper political backdrop to label the individual which is the broad media language used. In fact it is convenient for the media and lazy from the part of the individuals not to either the express nor state the sentiment of the findings - why for fluck's sakes won't these single cell' brainless twerps actually READ the report!
Because it is easier to try and inflict the individual with longer lasting damage than it is to use some reasonable understanding or a couple of word more that three syllables, Sun reading amoeba...
Suffolk'n Red
It is the media once again trying to measle their way to the head of Liverpool.
BthekingB
Ed02,
Following up on one of your previous replies ” how long will it be before you can control what the majority think, and do you plan to use this skill for good or for evil?
John CT {Ed002's Note - Evil without a doubt.}
Unfortunately the media are fully aware that every time they mention suarez's 8 game ban for being found guilty of racially abusing patrice evra, they will heighten everyone's awareness of an already sensitive issue. They know a chunk of the population will offer a staunch defence of suarez and the rest will notably and perhaps misinformly ramp up the suarez is a racist story. The conflict only serves to drag out this media whirlwind surrounding the whole episode, creates headlines and makes them more money. Unfortunately very few people have actually taken into account the statements issued by the panel and evra (and echoed numerous times by ed002) that they do not feel suarez is a racist. All conspiracy theories and agendas placed to one side this story sells papers and is a journalistic goldmine.
Sadly I feel the only way that the prolonged storm could have been calmed would have been for evra to come out publicly to the press and say he did not believe suarez to be a racist just as he offered at the hearing. This may (I stress may) have helped dampen some of the sensitivity to this case and halt some random misinformed persons from throwing their two cents woth in when it really wasn't needed. Though the chances of this were probably pretty slim before, since the whole handshake debacle I think that is undeniably an impossibility now. Lets be honest this is no longer an issue of race, it is simply two blokes that can't stand each other. But if we don't draw a line under this the media circus will carry on its performance and the cloud above suarez's has no chance of lifting.
Cheers
Greggers
17 Feb 2012 11:23:53
'Palermo will make a 45 million pound bid for suarez in the summer and make him one of italian footballs highest earners. The owner said they will pay more if that is rejected.' Hey I wish this guy was buying my house - I'd just keep saying NO while he raised his bid. Nice negotiating stance, what a genius!
17 Feb 2012 11:18:57
ED, do you know when the new kits for next season will be released, i know the kits wont be sold until about June normally, but when will they be unveiled?
Very keen to see what kind of design this Warrior Sports comes up with, since they have not really made kits like a football kit before. Their Ice Hockey and Lacross kits are very big and baggy to allow armour underneath so it will be very interesting to see what they design for us! {Ed002's Note - I really don't know when they will be released.}
Anything will be better than that awful tight white and blue Addidas away kit.
Anything will better? How about red & black
Red and Black? are you sure? dont you mean black and red for our away kit!
17 Feb 2012 11:12:19
just sharing here, i see some people needs help in watching live streams, so for those of u who do not want to download anything to watch, heres a site,
www.footballstreaming.info
on ur top right hand site, click "Live Streams & Feedback"
then scroll down and u will see list of games, and list of ways u can watch the game, some will need applications to watch but some do not, click on links with "Browser" and u'll watch in ur browser, just like youtube. hope this helps. if it has already been shared, sry.
Kaizer
17 Feb 2012 11:00:18
The rest of the world had it's say last night in support of our luis Suarez just want to let them know luis is not alone here in England as us scousers will defend his name forever and a day in what was the biggest stitch of a Person character I have witnessed he will never walk alone
Kopman
17 Feb 2012 09:53:43
I managed to get tickets for sunday so i am really looking forward and surely we have to put close to our best team. Suarez needs games as not had too much first team action. I think Kelly,carra,Caroll and maxi will come into the side. We havnt played for a full week and wont play for another full week so resting players should not really be an issue. I would say probably the only youngsters in contention to start is flanno or robbo. Sterling not ready yet and has not been impressive this season. I do like coady though but there are players ahead of him.
We are one step from the quarters and anything can happen once you get to that stage. Its really important to win on sunday and give us a confidence boost going into the final next week.
Mighty reds
Because we have limited depth within our squad, we have to play a team with at least 80%, of our regulars. If we don't we will expose ourselves to a potential upset.
80%? So that's 8.8 of regular players?
17 Feb 2012 09:49:25
Ed, I know you are reluctant to say which individual players we would be looking to buy in summer but, if we don't make the Champions League, what would be the region we would be looking to spend on an individual player (the main purchase, if you like). {Ed002's Note - That is even tougher to say. I would not get too wrapped up in the money situation just yet.}
17 Feb 2012 08:33:12
Hi ed. I am concerned for our club. We wont get in champ league. The king has spent a fortune. The club is being dragged thru the mud with suarez affair. We have no quality wide man since digger barnes and goal machine since rushy aldo god era. Suarez probly get sold. Nothn of note thru accademy since it began stevie g was b4 the academy in kirkby. We need to start again gerard and carra getn on. We got hardly any centre halves and apart frm suarez n bellers not much up top. Carrol is a joke. What are we to do ed? {Ed002's Note - I think there are pleanty of kids coming through the Academy. The club is in one cup final, still in another competition and in the mix for fourth in the league. Perhaps not as bad as you think.}
With the ammount kenny has spent top 4 is a must even a cup cant save him
Wat are u on,sktel and agger are 2 of the best in the league,with carragher and coates as backup.our problem is on the right wing and a goal poacher.
32 million, a fortune?
17 Feb 2012 02:20:50
The transfer window is cheapened by silly rumours all the time. Sick of seeing some idiots on this site, thank god you speak sense eds! Bob
Maybe if our owners showed a bit more ambition we could have signed a right winger but no they spent their money on the red socks.
I reallyy dnt think they have any faith in Dalglish agter he spent 35m on Downling & Henderson .. Next season New manager new investments ..
I still can't comprehend how some of you think the money that is generated by LFC goes to the Red Sox (notice the spelling). Here in the states the Red Sox fans think it is the other way around. I can assure you that no such thing is happening. The reason LFC did not buy any one in the January window is because their targets were not available, it has nothing to do with baseball.
an american red
17 Feb 2012 02:02:57
Now the Lavezzi talk seems to be gathering a bit of momentum... honestly, he's not going to solve anything, he may spend 90 mins on the pitch, but he only plays for about 4 - maybe 5 of those minutes, don't be fooled by the name and country of origin, he's really not that spectacular.
Red7.
He is an 85 on fifa lol
Lavezzi is ten times the player donkey downing is. he wud be a massive improvement on what we have.
Indian Buzzer
Totally agree with the poster, I have seen him play many times and think he is a good player in a poor league, I would take him because he is better than what we got at the moment, but not for a stupid price.
G BOX
Mate if lavezzi wasn't in that Napoli even with cavani they'd be out of champions league. He is a top player when played in the right position and with the right set up u got no idea
It's funny how someone we don't have is always better than someone we do have. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the hill. The Liverpool way was to take average players and make them world beaters unfortunately in recent times we've taken world beaters and make them average.
What world beaters have we bought except for suarez? Carrol? Downing?
Indian Buzzer
Come on Indian Buzzer Torres was,maybe still is world class! but look how he's turned out! and his decline started when he was with us!
And Downing and Carroll are world class?
17 Feb 2012 01:15:23
What I really think we should focus on is CONFIDENT players. People who aren't afraid to either try a trick or try a good pass. Someone like Jonjo Shelvey comes to mind as he is young and has always been confident to do whatever he wants. Another guy is Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain who uses his strength, pace and trickery to beat a player. Downing doesn't have that kind of confidence. He has the ability though but that is useless if you aren't willing to try. Young players in our team who have confidence like Jonjo, and Toni Silva should all be breaking into the first team as they both have the qualities that we need - strength and confidence! Glad that Toni has gone on loan!
BthekingB
The pressure to get results is such that managers become risk averse. They prefer to play a 20 million flop to a potential Academy flop. It is safer to go with the expensive player. Why? Because others were complicit in OK'ing the money, so the accountability is shared.
Yes, Henderson too.. don't have the courage to make ditch challenge & win the ball or play a killer pass.. most of the time he passes are directed towards the back unlike to forward to create something.
Players Like Shelvy, Sterling, Silva, Coady, Ngoo & Morgan needs to be introduced to the first team..
Confidence and Arrogance on a football pitch comes from being a good player.
Look how many average players wear white boots now? Remember the time you had to be a really great player to get away with wearing white boots.
kidmillions
You've almost hit on the problem there...
Downing had confidence when he arrived and looked like a very intelligent signing in his first few games.
then when a few errors crept in people like you immediately jumped on his back and now he's understandably terrified to make more mistakes.
There's no reason why that same pressure wouldn't knock the confidence out of any one of those kids.
x
I think he has some personal problems which would have an impact on anyone.
k-h
The biggest mistake Kenny made last summer window was not snapping up Wolfsburg's Diego when he was available for between 10 to 15 million bucks. And the player wanted to come to Liverpool. Now that boat has sailed because i doubt Atletico would be letting him go with the kind of form the lad is in right now.
And talking about killer passes from the midfield, no player is better at it than Diego Ribas. What a spectacular player Kenny missed out on.
BooDaBooze {Ed001's Note - except he is far better at falling out with staff and players than he is at playing football.}
17 Feb 2012 01:12:16
We have to accept most people believe all they read.So a lot will want us beaten in these next two games,after adverse publicity(regardless of facts twisted),So we need solidarity,between all LFC staff,players and us fans.A Millwall(lovely club-not)attitude.And a LFC"when you walk through a storm "etc.Lets get behind them,and not underestimate either !-game/team.Our fans are superb when under dogs,maybe not as good when favourites.So make some noise,especially at Wembley.And shove it up all them who wana slag/hurt us, or see our demise.Seige mentality boys.YNWA
17 Feb 2012 00:40:10
Out of curiosity, has anyone been keeping up with Danny Wilson's progress at Blackpool? Just wondering whether he's been doing well, or not so great?
Cheers,
Alex. {Ed001's Note - Ed003 has been keeping tabs on him for us, said he is looking quite impressive.}
I hope wilson makes it. Coates, wilson n wisdom. No need to spend money on a cb for the next decade or so.
Indian Buzzer
17 Feb 2012 00:32:13
Just read a comment further down the page about marvaux going missing. Looks like we dodged a bullet there avoided signing another injury prone player.
Speaking of players that have fallen off the face of the earth, where the hell did Owen Hargreaves go?
And darius vassell?
Not that I'm bothered like, they just disappeared never heard of again lol
Ashy {Ed001's Note - Hargreaves is at City and Vassell is at Leicester.}
Well there you go, last I heard of vassell h was playing in turkey.
I know Hargreaves was at city but when did he play last? Thought they'd petals got shut of him
Ashy
17 Feb 2012 00:08:29
Q Why are Man United hoping to build a 40 thousand seater stadium in Brighton
A So they can be nearer their fan base
cozinoz
Good grief. That wasnt funny enough to post once, never mind twice. Off you go back to the 90's when your jokes were original.
TK-Red
16 Feb 2012 23:55:33
I thought Suarez's latest tweet was very warm and heartfelt...hopefully its not turned into something ugly by the media.
GuvTOB
Excuse my ignorance dude but do ya know what he meant by "thanks again to the ajax fans for what they did today"? I been lookin but can't find any news on it. Can anyone shed any light. Thanks as always fellow reds!
TAYPOT
And what did he tweet GuvTOB?
He tweeted this mate
" I want to say thanks for the great support that the Liverpool's fans have given me in these last days. I would like to say thanks again to fans of Ajax for what did today. As you know I am Uruguayan, and I defend the selection team, so I want to say thanks too the fans, players and managers of NACIONAL for their great support today! A million THANKS for everybody!"
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Apparently they sang in Dutch:
"we're not racist we just hate Mancs"
Could have come from the Kop that one!
In Toronto this weekend watching the FA cup game with the Toronto LFC supporters club in Scallywags......get in!
SwissRed (soon to be RedLeaf)
They sung his name didn't they?
BthekingB
16 Feb 2012 20:26:46
Any news on the futures of Jay Spearing and Danny Wilson? And will any players sign contract extensions any time soon?
Cheers Ed's {Ed001's Note - I am not sure what news you would expect on either of those?}
My sources tell me that for the future Jay is gonna let his hair grow and perhaps think about deadlocks while wilson is really thinking about taking up the mandolin.
TAYPOT
Jay seems like a good kid. At this point in his career, he needs to play for a team week in, week out, one that does not have the expectations or pressure that playing for LFC creates.