Liverpool Banter Archive April 17 2013

 

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17 Apr 2013 22:23:20
Just want to share my thoughts on Carroll.

I honestly think he is a great player. He showed this at the end of last season when he was unplayable most of the time and scored some important goals. And he is showing now what he is capable off at West ham.

He clearly has the ability to be good for us but if he doesn't put in the effort in that is required to make it as a Liverpool player then he can bugger off.

Would be nice to have a fit and firing Carrol but it is clear to see that his future is elsewhere, and That is better for us and our new style and him.


Spot on


18 Apr 2013 07:55:32
dude. is that the reason that no big clubs are interested in him. and whomever actually wants him are ready to pay only 12 mill.
we don't play long balls. if ever we did. then players like suarez and countinho will warm the bench


As you mentioned, he plays well the last games of the season.
this means he is trying harder to be able to find a new club who willing to pay his wages.
NO to Carroll

Stoffe


He was injured doofus


 

 

17 Apr 2013 22:18:35
Regarding Andy Carroll (Plan B for some)

In my opinion, there are several reasons why Carroll won't be playing for LFC.

The first one is that we are still trying to fully implement a new style, an ethos that BR and the owners wants to run throughout LFC, not just the first team. We play similar football at U-21 and Youth teams for this very same reason. While you are trying to/struggling to implement this style, what BR does not want is Plan B, an easy option that players would turn to if things are not going well.

Which brings us to point 2. When we find that our plan A is not working, if the option of playing Carroll is available on the bench, it could become a serious hindrance in implementing Plan A. The players might go into games, inadvertently, thinking, "We have Carroll on the bench". This may become a huge problem as the players might take it easy thinking well, if we don't give a 100%, we could still get away with it as Carroll will come in later.

The third point is that when do we start start changing it? 60 minutes mark? 65? 70? And more importantly, what happens when Carroll's presence leads to us winning more games than Plan A? Do we drop Plan A all together? This in effect will be the major problem I think and a direct threat to BR's preferred style of play. He would never let it happen, especially when we are trying to implement a style throughout the club as it would mean changing our entire philosophy.

Aside from that, Ed001 points out his "habits" are not the best. Some will say, he can change. But, if joining LFC and being given a huge responsibility is not reason enough for him to change, I don't see him changing ever.

Opinions are always welcome.

The real AG


Agreed Andy could have scored a heap a goals but wouldn't play for Rogers because the style of play basicly he was playing to raise his price tag but unfortunately he got injured and now ain't work crap sad but true!!!


Get rid.
I like Andy. But, he's not a good fit.


18 Apr 2013 07:57:37
I can't get enough on this plan B.
If we change the system in between to a typical 4-4-2 formation (plan B). big CF up front.
player like, countinho, probably suarez, and sturridge will warm the bench.
downing will suerly play.
We were bullied and outclassed when we changed the system to plan b by spurs earlier.


What worries me most about Carroll is the length of time he's spent injured since stepping up to PL football, and how long it takes him to come back to form after that. Forgetting everything else, the guy is injury prone and without CL football, we need a trimmer squad of people likely to stay fit and available (of course anyone can get injured at any time, but some players do struggle with staying fit and injury free more than others).


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:56:37
And one other quick point if Luis wants the golden boot he will have to pull his finger out now.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:55:50
I feel as if people are forgetting that Andy Carroll doesn't fit our system at all and are being sucked in by motd fever.


I think we should keep him and play him Centre Back.


You need to stop deceiving yourself with the system crap. carroll is a better player than borini and would offer twice what borini offered in his 16 appearances.


Better than borini? Better than sturridge if you ask me!


"system crap"?
That's right. The differences between Stoke and Barcelona are just a case of clever self deception.


18 Apr 2013 07:59:22
Caroll better than borini?
my god. some people here.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:55:22
If I was BR I would cash in on Borini, assisidi Allen an Coates before letting big and go for silly money. if we would have had him this season we would have been a lot closer to top 4


Top 4 with Andy is quite a ridiculous statement. Based on what exactly?


We'd probably be closer. maybe 3 points closer? 6 if we're generous


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:50:03
Carroll when on form is absolutely unplayable i'd rather him than borini


Carroll is no good we will be lucky to get rid.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:46:54
So looks as though Carrroll won't be signed by West Ham as first thought by most of us. Apparently this is due to FFP rules coming in next season.

I really don't want to see another Aqualani scenario develop with this one were he is loaned out for a number of seasons only for us to somehow get a sale out of the end of it.

He's not wanted at Liverpool so we all know he's leaving (which doesn't bother me). The main aim for us is to gain the best possible deal and recoup as much as we can from the deal.

Newcastle seem to be trying to get him back for a nominal fee which we can't entertain. Unsure whether we would receive any interest from abroad for him and whether he would be interested in any kind of move like is.

Seems the only plausible solution would be a player plus cash scenario. This seems the best solution for all on this, but depending on the player involved and whether the club would be willing to deal is a different matter.

I'd like to think that most players at both Newcastle and West Ham would be interested in such a move. Dependant on the player the cash deal would be different, but if a straight cash fee is not an option this seems the only likely way for it to go.

I'm not saying all these are possible or that the fees are accutrate, but would the club go down one of these routes?

M. Diame. W. Ham. plus 10 million cash for Carroll.

H. Ben Arfa. Newcastle. Plus 5-7 million cash for Carroll.

Y. Cabaye. Newcastle. Straight swap deal.

D. Santon. Newcastle. Plus 10 million cash.

Not saying any of these would happen but a player cash deal seems only amicable solution for all on this one. there could still be a foreign club or even English club to show serious interest for him.

Jonesred

H. Ben Arfa. Newcastle.


Out of all those options, given the choice I would go for the swap for Cabaye


Get a grip you lot


18 Apr 2013 08:00:45
Ben Arfa would be an excellent buy for us.
will offer much more than andy caroll whole career.
on fit he is a great player. perfect on the right side.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:41:48
Tell you what Big Andy had a right game great defending at the end and a great cruncher on on there keeper it was a beauty.


He is a striker though.


Yes mate true I'm not saying he should come back to us, but it was just good to see/hear whiskey nose fuming at that challenge.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:33:43
Andy Carroll has scored 5 in his last 7 premier league games, he was starting to look a player towards the end of last season for us! Now we all know we paid to much for him and I was gutted we signed him tbh, but I do feel there is a player in there and he hasn't been given a chance by us.

The point i'm making is, quite a few on here are prepared to give Borini and Allen a chance (Allen in particular ) to the point were I have seen Allens poor form defended by him becoming a new father FFS, yet Carroll has been ( by some on here ) slagged off to the point of hatred!

Just wondering why he has been vilified by some on here, yet he actually stated he loved playing for us and was willing to fight for his place, knowone knows if that was just lip service except Carroll, but why was he not defended as strongly as the two players I have mentioned or any other Liverpool player in fact when in truth he has done nothing to warrant the abuse some of you on here have given him.

I would rather see him given a chance than sell him back to Newcastle for the figures quoted today!

Waro


I would suspect the price tag. I wouldn't mind having him back. I, like you was gutted when we signed him but even more so when we signed sturridge because Carroll will prove him self sturridge failed at city and Chelsea, unfortunately I think he will fail us as we'll. hope I'm wrong.


Agree Waro, the lad has played well all year, if it had not been for injuries he would have been in double figures easy, he has done nothing against us to warrant the crap he gets.


Quite simply Waro I just don't rate him


If Joe Allen returns to the form he had in the first 3 months of the season he's a perfect fit for us. If Borini keeps his movement but adds finishing to his game he's a valuble player for us. Andy Carroll at his best is a square peg for us playing the way we play.

Would be good to recoup half the fee and let him leave on good terms - bear him absoloutley no ill will, wrong player at the wrong time.


Price tags have a way of raising fans' expectations. Can't be escaped really its a natural reaction to transfer figures. Perhaps also unfair for Andy when he doesn't play what he apparently is worth in the club's assessment. As fans we don't know the whole story, just that he didn't fit the mold under BR.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:24:59
Swear to god Man U are the luckiest team around, Van Persie score's an offside equaliser and gets away with it.


Not off side under the "new definition" of off side though


New definition equals any ref who wants to keep on fergies good side let's play go on and gives goal when man u need one but if man u are winning you can give offside because it will not be a problem to man u then.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 21:11:36
Who is this Andrew Carroll player, he looks half decent. We should buy him, oh hang on.
Serious note, he does look good, and that diameter is a monster. Went to watch us play them the other week, he is a unit. Think we need someone like him.
Gaz b


 

 

17 Apr 2013 20:08:44
Rodgers really reeds to bring caroll back he can still be a very good player for us until then let's hope he gives d scums a few problems :-)

Basy


Even if he's on the bench he offers something different, Boroni or Carroll. I know who I would have my money on to change a game.

However BR hates him so he won't been seen in an LFC shirt again IMO


Lol second poster are you a child? Yep Rodgers hates him! It's his hair he is jealous.

People who slate borini considering how young he is, how he's moved to a massive club, played out of position and he's moved to a club where fans won't give him a chance next season if he bangs them in it's going to be the likes of you who starts kissing his arse like "he will be our future captain" (Henderson)

London red


I agree London Red, he's had some unfair criticism. But the fact of the matter is Borini will continue to played out of position and I don't think he'll cut it. Of course I hope I'm wrong.

rikdangerous


Carroll is around 18 months or 2 years older than Borini London Red and has a still British ( player ) transfer record as a millstone around his neck at a massive club. Borini has played in this country and league before so why the strong defence of him and not Carroll aswell?

Waro


3rd poster is Carroll not young? Was he not given a hard time by fans? Was he not given praise toward the end of last season when he started to prove himself? Don't see borini banging them in next season, Carroll on the other hand.


I'm sorry but where did I slate Carroll? You two are prob the people that did slate him last season and now kissing his arse. My point was about borini has not had a chance to prove him self. Carroll got unlucky with the change in manager but BR is our manager so he chooses the style of play

London red


 

 

17 Apr 2013 20:07:04
A fit Andy Carroll provides an option that we just don't have at the moment. Brendan needs to adapt his approach, tactics and philosophy to suit the team. Carroll would work against the Stokes and West Hams of the world. Tiki Taki will work best against the likes of Swansea and the top 4. There's none so blind as those that will not see.


Agree but BR only has one tactic.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 19:50:40
De Vrij and Gonalons both team captains and young, can provide the leadership BR keeps saying is missing and a CB and DM are positions we need.
However attracting and affording them is another matter, and I think Ittura is allready lined up.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 19:33:29
i wonder how confidant BR is when these americans are in town? after spending 30mil on assaidi/allen/sahin and borini I would wonder if they would let me spend the summer budget. he is always pleased with the players draw/win/lose. I have no believe in BR. last season we had gerrard missing agger was out for a while and suarez suspended. just saw last seasons man c replay, we played the champions from the park. he is lucky these americans have no clue about football, no team in the world will ever pay swansea 18mil euro there is only 1 midfielder in world that can't shoot/head/defend for 18mil and we bought him. BR is a salesman I am sorry to say it but that's how I feel. Malta


I respect your opinion, But I dis-agree with it and here are some of my couter arguments,

KK signed Carrol, Henderson, Downing all cost more than allen all floped under KK, Carrol gone, Hendo playing very well, Downing playing very well.

KK signed Enrique, Adam, Coates, Enrique floped after 6 months till BR came in, Adam floped like a fish, Coates marked not good enough.

KK signed suarez who as great as he is has been better under BR.

Now before people talk about cup finals as a way of proving KK was better, Well Bradford was in the C. O. C Final doubt that makes there manager great.

So my opinion is BR is an outstanding manager who is at Liverpool 2/3 years too early needed to hone his skills more but i'm sure he'll come good for us.

HPH


17 Apr 2013 20:40:25
Wow what a double standard, hendo, downing etc flopped under kk, but Allen, borini not flop just need time, wow loving it, sahin and assaidi not flop under Rodgers just didn't work ha!


He's not just saying they flopped, he's saying they flopped under KK. I however, would like to point out that despite not getting the win, we played Man City out the park twice this season and United once despite being 10 men. In terms of point return, last season when Suarez was suspended was one of our best periods. And Allen has, for the billionth time, been injured since October and was great before that.


18 Apr 2013 16:32:14
I would like to point out that last year we didn't only dominate teams like city, united, arsenal, chelsea etc but defeated them black and blue, despite losing players like Gerrard, Lucas completely out of the season, Suarez 10-12 games still achieved two finals, won 1 and lost another, still finished 7-8th. Now imagine if Rodgers lost players like kenny we would be in religation dog fight and that's the FACT.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 18:39:43
I'd much rather us keep Andy Carroll than let him go back to Newcastle for a ridiculous £7m. on form the guy is a real good player, who I belive would flourish playing with the likes of coutinho, Gerrard and suarez.


He is better than 7million.


Agree. He gives us options and options is what we need.


I clicked the metaphorical agree buton. So while I'm here agreeing with you I will say some more. Its better to keep him than sell him for 7-10 mil. He's a young lad, give him a chance to fight for a place. Remember, if we gave up on Rocky after getting pasted by Clubber Lang (Mr T) in Rocky 3, there would never have been a rocky 4.

Eye of the Tiger Andy.


17 Apr 2013 20:51:20
Keeping him 'as an option' at 80 grand a week is an option the club can't afford.

Fitzy


 

 

17 Apr 2013 17:29:17
I agree with ed that Agger should be in pole position to be Vice Captain.

Reason; Reina has been unsure of Liverpool for a few season now and Agger is in fact the next senior member of the Liverpool squad in terms of service add that too him flat out refusing to consider another English club as a destination.

that and he is a clear fan favorite not just for his Class on the field but also for his honesty and his unwillingness to sugar code the teams performance when it has been poor


However, re: your reason for it not being Reina, surely if he is still here next season that pretty much answers all questions over his committment? Not saying I disagree with you at all but a little devils advocate


GIVE IT TO SUAREZ! he works tirelessly for us,, he wants to win, maybe it would be a little incentive not to go anywhere,,, we can't lose him.


Cause making a player captain or vice captain historically works so well as a tool to keep them - look at Fabregas and Van Persi! Arsenal might make it 3 for 3 with Vermaleen this year


Big believer that the first name on the team sheet should be captain - that should be LS after SG.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 16:55:19
We're coming to the tail end of another campaign and I'm a little shocked with some of the sniping at Brendan Rogers on here. He's not everyone's cup of tea and I understand that he shouldn't be, but if you think what he inherited and how awful we were last year I think we should be holding off on our judgement. He came in on a limited budget and IMO he signed the core of the seniors in the squad to long term deals on fairly decent (for the club and compared to other clubs) steady middle of the road salaries. He moved on Charlie Adam and Joe Cole for good. His philosophy of possession footie and playing it from the back found out Mr. Skertle and Coates and it's obvious they aren't going to fit the system. We couldn't hit a barn door last year in front of goals and not only has Saurez flourished in his system, he also added attacking youth (Sterling, Coutinho, Suso) and Sturridge will be a great addition when fully healthy. Downing has had a decent season overall, and it's fair to say that attacking and wide we are in real decent shape. Our full backs as a tandem have been good for the most part and Pepe's recent return to form has been encouraging too. So a skilled footballing CB to replace Carra and a DM to backup Lucas is top of my list and a playmaker ACM would be nice too. The one thing we needed was pace and we improved in that department exponentially this term. A little extra depth and another season in the same system with the focus on CB's this window will transform us into a top 3-4 team next term. We've seen some beautiful moves and goals this season so that is why I feel we can improve by keeping the same man in charge for a couple of seasons. YNWA. JFT96.


Logic being used in the ranks, someone with good judgement and a view of the bigger picture.

Anonymous woolback


 

 

17 Apr 2013 15:46:36
Taking everything into account and for what it's worth, I would guess that our most likely summer signings will be from Alderweireld, Amorabieta, Diakite, Gameiro, Biglia and Ince. Maybe even all of them. Thoughts Eds? {Ed052's Note - I guess we have either looked at them or they are available, but I wouldn't expect us to sign any of them, if I'm honest}


Really Ed? Blimey I thought at least one or two would be likely. Could you have a stab at some names?


Really Ed? Blimey I thought at least one or two would be likely. Could you have a stab at some names? {Ed052's Note - I just think that we will move on from Ince. Alderweireld is unconfirmed interest. Amorabieta was of interest last summer, but I doubt it this summer. Diakite has been longing for a move but I haven't seen a hint we want hime. Gameiro may be available, but I don't think we will buy an out and out striker. Biglia is available, so we may become intrested. We have looked at a lot of different players, as mentioned. I think it will become clearer, after the season has ended, when we identify who exactly we want, and begin planning. I think there may be a surprise signing, or two again.}


I reckon we'll go back for Ince, with Downing's time now up.
Downing out, Ince in.
The Juicer {Ed052's Note - I think that would be a terrible idea}


Really appreciate that Ed, I'm looking forward to the summer now and a surprise or two. {Ed052's Note - No Problemo}


Which bit, and why, ed?
The Juicer {Ed052's Note - Downing is better, and settled. We also know that he fits in our system, it reduces change, and he is improving. Also, Ince would probably cost more than we would get from selling Downing}


You may be right about the cost issue.
Which tells us something about Downing's performances in the last two seasons.
He's been a bitter disappointment, for me. Coutinho has managed to show him up since January as well.
I agree that this wouldn't be a priority. It may depend on what else happens with other targets and Suarez. But Downing will be a lucky fella to be wearing a Liverpool shirt next season.
The Juicer


The reason I think Downing will stay is because we need a squad and we still are quite thin on that level. i'm not sold on buying Ince if i'm honest but I would be happier if it wasnt Ince in and Downing out.

I still think we should sell Suarez if an offer comes in aroundthe £45 million mark. Its too much money to refuse, especially with limited funds.

The Irish Rover


 

 

17 Apr 2013 15:21:57
I heard rodgers copied something fergie did by writing names of players in an envelope that would let him down, firstly why would he copy sir alex and not use an idea of his own? secondly how would this help anyone in anyway? I really don't see the point in doing this. can someone enlighten?


Why would he copy Ferguson?

Because Ferguson is the greatest manager to ever manage ever. Despite him being a UTD manager you can't deny how great he is.

Why would he do it?

A little something called motivation


Didn't hear of it being an ol' Fergie trick. Never saw the point either. Most of my confusion stemming from the lesson (if any) learned by calling out the weak links that early in the season. It's either an admission that he knows who the players are already, or that he's made his mind up that even he can't change them. Maybe BR is hatching the greatest "I told ya so" ever. Perhaps a cliffhanger for 'Being Liverpool 2: The Saga Continues'. Maybe his own name is in there.

I feel we may never know, but it's certainly peaked my interest to see if those envelopes weren't empty.


I know, I mean rodgers c. v speaks for its self. he doesn't need tips from the greatest manager ever.

duggo


17 Apr 2013 17:12:04
i think sir Bob Paisley has a shout at being the best manager ever 3 European cups 9 years Fergie 2 European cups in 27 years despite having one of the biggest budgets in Europe for all this time. Tommy Irish Red


It's a poor motivational technique. Much like asking people to fall backwards and let people catch them is a poor team building exercise


Paisley was the greatest mate, Fact.


Terrible motivation technique. If he is going to out the player/players publicly at the end of the season, I will think a lot less of him.

rikdangerous


He wasn't even in the top 5 greatest ever managers to manage a british club as voted by journalists, managers and ex pros (some even worked with him)


18 Apr 2013 09:47:36
@rikdangerous the envelopes have 'me, you and us' in them


 

 

17 Apr 2013 15:20:14
Carrol is definately coming back to LFC next season, he will not be sold,

FSG and BR have seen the immense flaw in the style that BR has implimented, we need another dimension to the attack and Carrol will not be just a bench warmer.


I'll have a wager with you that Andy Carroll never plays for Liverpool again. (Thank god)


I hope he does come back and gets a fair chance this time. As long as he knuckles down and works hard I think he could be an asset to us


Lol he won't be sold because no one wants the useless pony lol


The people say they hope he is given a chance.

Andy Carroll doesn't fit in Brendans system. Unless you want us to A) play him and make brendan change his style and end up not progressing
B) Make him sit on the bench the season before the world cup and we pay hefty wages for a player who doesn't really figure.

Unless you want either of them to happen its best Andy goes


 

 

17 apr 2013 13:38:01
a song for tonywebbo

dont blame it on the rodgers.
dont blame it on the players.
dont blame it on john henry.

blame it on borini.

he can't help, he can't help, he can't help his injuries.

apples '96'


How can you blame nobody for this season as we all knew exactly what was going to happen this year clear out the start the season and just try nick fourth didn't happen but next year if it's the same crap ill support you fact


Lad, although that song is well harsh, it's funny as you like. Nice one


 

 

17 Apr 2013 14:05:10
I've put together a list of players I believe would give us a huge boost towards Champions league places next year.

I think we need a Defender Centre, Defensive Midfielder, Central Attacking Midfielder and Right Winger.

The four lists comprised for each position will be very tough targets to get without Champions League football but with a bit a persuasional powers may be possible for the following reasons>

1. They play for a minor league. Even with Champions league football these footballers may want to step up and prove themselves in the more challenging and glamourous premier league with a high profile club like ours.

2. Wont have Champions league with their club either and may see more of a chance with Liverpool

3. Are known to love the club and may join. Ie. Alonso, Turan

4. Are not getting first team football at their club. This comment is mostly for the Barcelona players mentioned.

Now some people on here keep telling me when I say attacking midfielder centre we have Coutinho. He is our left winger. Its his best position and I think we need to keep him there and add an attacking midfielder central. I really like Suso and would love to see him get a chance there but I think for Champions league contention we need another top player for here and have Suso his competition. Henderson is a midfielder centre for me. Players on the list extremely creative and have goals in them.

We also clearly need physical cover for our defense in midfield. Some might be surprised by Alonso in the list for this position but Alonso has adapted to this position since leaving Liverpool. His defensive work is very underated and he sits in front of the back four giving protection. The others on the list are either physical beasts or aggressive mascherano types.

It is clear we also need a RW. Sterling is a long term hope but we need to add some serious goal threat to this position. That's what the list provides.

Defender is obvious. We need at least one. My list contains some of my favourite defenders.

Attacking Midfielder
Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Shakhtar), Josip Ilicic (Palermo), Keisuke Honda (CSKA), Christian Eriksen (Ajax), Sofiane Feghouli (Valencia), Marko Marin (Chelsea), nemanja Matić (Benfica), Munian (Atletico Bilbao), Thiago (Barcelona)

Right Winger
Bal�zs Dzsudzs�k (Dinamo), Heung-Min Son (Hamburg), Patrick Herrmann (Borussia M�nchengladbach), Dries Mertens (PSV), Cristian Tello (Barcelona), Nico Gaitan (Benfica), Arda Turan (Atletico Madrid)

Holding Midfielder
Xabi Alonso (Madrid), Victor Wanyama (Celtic), Gary Medel (Sevilla), Momo Diame (West ham), Alex Song (Barcelona), �tienne Capoue (Toulouse)

Defender Centre
Dede (Vasco De Gama), toby alderweireld (Ajax), Bruno Martins Indi (Fyenoord), Stefan De Vrij (Fyenoord), Dejan Lovren (Lyon), Fernando Amorbietta (Atletico Bilbao), Adil Rami (Valencia)

Hope you enjoyed the read. If we could persuade one from each list to join, I think we'll have a good challenge next season.

Ben Arfa was ommited on purpose. Too injury prone and inconsistant.

If you have a player to add, please share it.

Thanks,
Davey Sulls {Ed052's Note - Almost all of these players are unrealistic mate.}


17 Apr 2013 14:38:07
Very interesting and realistic names out there in-terms of price.

attacking midfileder. yes. Honda. good buy under 10 mill would be a steal. but that leaves us wih the dilemma of henod allen and shelvey. some has to move out.

Right winger. hard to tell. mertens or turan. would bang us in lots and lots of goals and assist.
but not realestic.


See your point on leaving Ben Arfa out but on his day he is better than everyone else you have mentioned. The thing is these players would probably only go to a club offering Champions League Football - and we can't offer that (especially when Rodgers is in charge).


Time to burst some bubbles:

Attacking Midfielder:
Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Too expensive.
Josip Ilicic - Palermo's owner is a nutcase -> Pastore fee, too expensive.
Keisuke Honda - Possible on pre-contract for next year.
Christian Eriksen - Wants a Spain move, supports Spurs, wanted by Utd, very unlikely.
Sofiane Feghouli - Possible but expensive.
Marko Marin - Has flopped, too risky.
Nemanja Matić - Too expensive.
Munian - Too expensive/too risky, won't want to leave Spain.
Thiago - If wants to leave Barcelona, Bayern and Utd ahead of us with CL football.

Right Winger:
Balazs Dzsudzsak - Maybe, might be too expensive.
Heung-Min Son - Strong competition, unlikely.
Patrick Herrmann - Will stay in Germany.
Dries Mertens - Strong competition and expensive.
Cristian Tello - Broken into Barcelona team, why would he leave now.
Nico Gaitan - Too expensive.
Arda Turan - Missed our chance 2 years ago, will look for CL football, too expensive now.

Holding Midfielder
Xabi Alonso - Stop dreaming, maybe after the 2014 World Cup.
Victor Wanyama - Possible but Arsenal/Utd interested.
Gary Medel - Too expensive/no interest.
Momo Diame - Possible but zero interest.
Alex Song - Is awful, what was Tito thinking?
Etienne Capoue - Arsenal target, we have no French contingency.

Defender Centre
Dede - Too expensive.
Toby Alderweireld - Yes the most realistic target.
Bruno Martins Indi - Again, realistic and affordable.
Stefan De Vrij - Too expensive.
Dejan Lovren - Too expensive.
Fernando Amorbietta - signed pre-contract with Fulham, wants London as home.
Adil Rami - Will sign for a CL club no doubt.
RC


There is at least two from each that workforce out of reach to be fear


Not a hope of one of them signing!


I hear yee all barking big dogs but I have to disagree.

The goal of this team is to qualify for top four. The ask of this team is to catch teams that are already ahead of us and will improve massively this summer themselves.

Yes there is top competition for these players but that is becuase they are top players. And the fact is, top CL teams are not going to buy them all.

For example RC, you say Arsenal are interested in Capoue and Wanyama. Sure, but they are not going to get both. Manchester United are more likely to go for Strootman. Why not throw our hat in the ring for all three and we may just be the best option for one at the end of the day.

You say Mertens has Bayern Munich interested. They've been interested for a long while now, yet he is still at PSV.

Likewise with Eriksen. I'm glad we are going for him. Chances are slim as hell but who knows. Suarez joined. The power of persuasion and vision can be very strong and some of the players mentioned may go for it.

If we don't put our ticket in the hat, we're not going to win the raffle.

And if we are not a rolling stone, then we are going to gather moss.

Point is, we are not 2 or 3 solid players away from Champions league. We are 2 or 3 game changers away.

We need to aim high and if we do, I think we may well be suprised who would join.

Davey Sulls


Not a hope davey


 

 

17 Apr 2013 13:27:54
hey all eds/reds. just wondered what your thoughts on suarez is. if he was to go and obvs none of us want him to then what would be the minimum you wanted for him. and who would be your 1st choice to replace him? 50+ mil sounds right to me. personally i'd love falcao if he was to leave {Ed052's Note - Falcoa wont be signing. I personally can see him leaving, why would he stay? I don't think we will get a stupidly high fee for him though, which is what it would take for us to sell him. We will have to wait and see}


17 Apr 2013 13:47:04
i know mate just wishful thinking lol. and I think its 50/50 he's stays but who would you prefer should suarez leave? {Ed052's Note - Erikson would be a good replacement}


And who is going to score the goals Erikson surely won't


 

 

17 Apr 2013 12:58:21
Anyone that thinks FSG haven't spent large amounts of money on players, wages, the club etc must be deluded.

I frankly don't trust BR to use the transfer budget wisely as his player choices have largely failed to deliver.

He needs guidance as to the correct players for the Club and unless he delivers some success next season, he should be removed.

M


However, this season hasn't even injured and of his 5 signings, 2 have delivered, 1 hasn't and 2 have been injured all season and therefore it's very hard to judge them. Let's wait and see how he does next season - no point talking about him being removed for no success next season when anything that could happen - 7 of the first team could be involved in a multi-car pile up the day the transfer window ends and all be out for the season!


Agree samsam, you can't judge someone like Borini when he hasn't had a run of games, nor can you judge Allen after 8 months.

Apples '96'


17 Apr 2013 14:39:30
allen has played over more than 25 games this season. with all respect. he hasn't impressed me on the amount we paid for him.
sorry


Borini played 11 games between the start of August and the start of October. isn't that a run of games?

The Irish Rover


Allen has been carrying a injury also tough so there young and no the system relax we'll be far better next year


11 games. You know in the last 13 games he played, Van Persi has scored 2 - and one was a penalty. Borini scored 1 in 11. No, you cannot trust 11 games in a new league for an inexperienced but able played to make a judgement over what he is really capable of and what his entire future will be - bigger, better and more experienced players than Borini have taken two or three months to adapt to the PL.

Allen might have been playing, but he was injured since October. Granted, the fact that he was injured and still played on could be a criticism of BR when it was clearly affecting his form, but for the first 2 months he was brilliant and won MOTM several times, got injured and has not reached even close to that level.


Samsam
One word- Mischu


Bless you


Assuming the no named poster meant 'Michu', Michu is an attacking midfielder. Allen is a central playmaker who we sometimes use as a holding midfielder. What does one have to do with the other?


 

 

17 Apr 2013 12:46:23
With west ham seemingly unable to afford to sign Andy Carroll on a permanent deal, and Newcastle trying to get him back for next to nothing, surely if we can't get the price we want, why not keep him. I'm confident he could play in our system and do very well.


17 Apr 2013 13:11:24
the differnece between downing and caroll is their heart to play for us.
downing never played in 4-3-3, but he made it. and I admire that. he knows that he could be way out, Instaed fought for the place. changed the style required to suit to our club and did play quiet a lot of game.
andy carol is so arrogant. he doesn't care about Liverpool. he only care about himself.
neither he will change or improve his style rather he would want his remaining pennys and move out back to new castle.
he never played for Liverpool


I completely disagree Carroll has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool, KK and Brendan didn't give him the chance first time round, bearing in mind he was injured and unfit when he first came, he just started to show his worth when he was loaned out he would be happy to go back and given the chance I think he could be a success. Most of the team has been playing BR's style for a season and are only just adjusting to it. If he comes back and the management want it to work they need to get behind him he is young, speed training and good coaching he will adjust. I don't think it's his playing style they don't like but his wages. Newcastle are quoting a £10 million transfer bid, which is far to low.
Keep him Brendon he is young show us your coaching and managering skills

Bobbinred


 

 

17 Apr 2013 12:39:31
My take on Rodgers pros and cons:

Pro: He has introduced a few new signings and some youngsters who apart from Assaidi and Sahin (others out of his control) have slotted in nicely. Sterling, Suso, Wisdom, Coady, Morgan, Yesil and Sinclair all got a chance and only Morgan failed to impress. Allen was in great form until his injury caught up with him. Borini and Yesil are too young to be judged harshly and have both been hindered by injuries. Sturridge and Coutinho have been more than adequate buys though.
Another thing is the improvement in players like Enrique, Downing and Henderson. Its been shocking to say the least!
His tactics have been very fluent. He is not one dimensional contrary to popular belief and has played many different midfield combos, attacking 3's and even different formations to approach different games.
He has given youngsters belief.
He has somehow managed to end Gerrard and Aggers injuries with his great medical team.
We have scored more goals, kept more clean sheets, dominated more games, will likely collect more points and have had to cope with more games.
We play attractive football!

Cons: Sahin loan deal looked like a bargain, put Rodgers should have either released Gerrard forward so Sahin could sit alongside Lucas, or signed a playmaker instead.
Assaidi was a gamble that did not pay off. Most of us thought Rodgers had found a hidden gem, so let's not get on his back too much.
Borini was played out of position prior to his injury. Its made him look poor and he's getting stick he shouldn't be.
Allen should have been displaced by Henderson long before he was, as his form tailed off.
We started off maknig too many mistakes in games, which has ultimately cost us. He think Rodgers forced his style down the players throats to abruptly.
No silverware. Nobody honestly expected us to challenge for the league title, but a cup run would've been nice.
Sometimes his tactics are awful from the start, but he does often correct his mistakes with substitutions.

All in all, for me the pros outweigh the cons. Most of the negatives are down to his inexperience at the top level, but those will iron themselves out, and some have been corrected already.

Keep the faith, Rodgers is the right man for the job.

YNWA! (Adam)


Fair assesment Adam.

Apples '96'


I would question one or two of these points but overall, I'd say pretty fair and accurate! Well said Adam


17 Apr 2013 13:42:57
great post adam Tommy Irish Red


Nice 1 Adam

Muggitzo


Good post. I hate to disagree on any point really. But, Sahin not firing was totally of his own doing. The guy just wanted too too too much time on the ball. Not going to happen. When he wasn't afforded this time, his head dropped. I rate the guy, obviously, but he just didn't believe in himself enough to cut it here.

Red7.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 11:22:05
Has everybody seemed to forget BR's NO rubbish first interview as Liverpool Manager. Just a couple of sections to refresh some of the fans memories.

"The challenge for me at Liverpool, as it was when I came to Swansea, is to prove myself to the people both on and off the field. "

"I will do what I have always done, which is to be committed to improving the club. The club's success will be the most important thing and we'll see where we are in the next few years.

"There's obviously a lot has gone on in those few years and so I've come into here to look to try and stabilise. There's a lot of work to do in terms of the playing squad and I've been brought in to implement a vision otherwise there's no point me being here. I was brought in because I work a certain way and obviously I want to implement that over a period of time.

He has never promised us any immediate success and right from the off he re-iterated that this process will take time before taking charge of a single game.

If you feel 12 months in the job is enough time to re-structure a football club the size of Liverpool then clearly you are un-educated and deluded.

Apples '96'


I think you are the deluded one if you think he has done a good job
wasted money on allen borini. his tika taka football is rubbish. the team didn't want re-structuring as you put it just a few better additions. why is it fans who don't like rodgers are allways called the deluded ones. I support Liverpool not rodgers


17 Apr 2013 12:17:30
Apples '96' mate your the one who is un-educated, as much as it takes time to achieve Champions league, the debts are going to increase because of missing Champions league we are losing lots of money which is impossible to run a club like Liverpool, you just have to see interviews of werner and ian ayre they make it clear that, its impossible to run a club like Liverpool without Champions league, so don't be shock if debts continue increasing because owners are not going to bail us every season with their own money, we are already 100M in debt and this season will increase because of missing Champions league so need to be carefull, as much as Rodgers takes time to achieve Champions league we are going to suffer double interms of debts!


Rodgers has and is doing a good job. Look at how we play, how we dominate teams, much more than we did last season. We have lost a lot of senior players during the last summer transfer window, and a lot of players in general have gone on to pastures new. The youngsters we have introduced are stepping up to the plate and it won't be long before we start churning them out ala the Gerrard, Owen, Carrager era. Have a little faith and patience and we will come good. I for one would feel more pride in producing a team the way we are now rather than become a money bags like Chelsea and City and buy the trophies. We all know if they owners pull the plug and took there money elsewhere they will end up in administration.


To Webbo. he does not mean squad restructuring. he means financial. the club were not far from going under. don't judge allen he is young and has moved to a big club many players take time. henderson is showing his worth after more than 1 season, lucas took time to develop. is hard to step into centre mid when young. Would u rather sign cavani, Neymar and win trophies for a year and go bust or build a squad over time and win for years
IRISHRED1995


What are you on about tonywebbo!? You don't actually have any sort of argument or reason that makes sense. If you think that Degen, El Zhar and all the rest on high wages only needed a few more additions then you need your head checked. You are the only one still going on about 'tika taka' because you need something to try and complain about. The profile of player we are after now is great - players with technical ability who will play to earn their wages. If you haven't seen an improvement in the football then you must have been in a coma since 1990 and just woken up pal.

Fowler99


You got to laugh at some of these fans. Tonywebbo in particular and also the un-named posters. Saying that, if I posted as much rubbish as some of these people i'd be embarassed to stamp my name on the bottom of my comments aswell!

Apples '96'


Thats the trouble on here. someone has an alternative opinion and the clever mouthes put them down. people are entitled to speak up if they don't like something, I for one don't see us going forward only back, that's my opinion, and just for all you Rodgers lovers who feel quite comfortable laughing at other fans with different opinions. we'll see whose laughing when things are going wrong and your all calling for the mans head on a plate. Without champions league money don't kid yourse3lf that the Susos of this world are going to bail us out. in case you havnt noticed Ch


I agree with the guvs opinion, but I won't be laughing, I hope Rodgers succeeds, I am not convinced that he will.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 11:07:36
Hi was just wondering if anyone could give me some infomation on how teams scout for there accadamys? Do they send scouts out or do they hold open days? Any info would be welcome {Ed001's Note - they usually send out scouts, though a lot depends on the team. At the younger levels, it is normally a series of trials to get an academy place, with the scouts adding to the group with players they have picked out. Some clubs, including ourselves, have specific youth academy scouts, not many though. Sometimes younger players will be given a trial on the basis of a recommendation from a trusted source. It really depends. A kid in Bootle got a trial with Wigan, back when they were a lower league team, purely by his best friend asking Dave Whelan to give him a try when he was at a JJB store opening! That is very rare though.}


 

 

17 Apr 2013 11:17:01
For people insisting Rodgers hasn't done a good job, you must have very short memories. The only reason we're hovering around 7th again this season is because it took Rodgers ages to sort out the mess he inherited from last season. In case you've forgotten, it actually took an awfully long time for us just to get out of the bottom half this season- in fact it wasn't until we beat West Ham 3-2 on 9th December that we finally hit 10th, and that was our 16th game of the season! Considering that since then we have actually managed to get ourselves into a position where (albeit briefly) we thought we might have an outside chance of getting into the top 4, I'd say Rodgers has done very well indeed, since getting the team in order and how he wants it. Next season there'll be no mess that needs half a season to sort out, we'll be ready to go from game 1, and I think we should all be quite excited for what next season could bring us!

DP


Well said mate, spot on


And don't forget how his tough love management style worked with downing Henderson and co this was all at the start of the season where they where dropped and made a example me and youth got a chance so let's give him the benefit of the doubt roll on next season


Agreed


 

 

17 Apr 2013 11:04:45
Macca said a few weeks ago the club are very optimistic about Suarez staying for next season, but personally I think failure to even get into the Europa league will see him gone in the summer, although hopefully for a very large fee.

If we were to get 40-50m for him from Bayern, what sort of strikers are going to be available who

1. fit BRs playing style

2. are willing to come to LFC and thus gamble on missing CL football for two more seasons?

There was talk of interest in Sanchez, but from what I've seen he doesn't yet have Luis' quality, and doesn't have anything like his attitude and drive.

Life will always go on after any player, but I have to say Suarez will be a big big miss.


If we did lose Suarez I'd want to see Leandro Damaio, Eriksen and Isco. That won't happen in a million years but it'd soften the blow of loosing Luis. We'd waste all the money anyway so let's all hope he stays here for a long time
DBol


Dbol, those players won't want to come to Liverpool


Total nonesense


I remember mecca saying lots of stuff that never happened


Reckon we should go for erikson, Alexis Sanchez and Wilfred Bony. All available and should roughly cost the same as Suarez.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 10:15:39
Ed. what's the situation with milner?. I am sure. he might be off this summer. does Liverpool have any interest in him. and what's your personal thought on him.
he can play right up. and also good in defensive cover. can be a decent squad player. {Ed052's Note - we dont. He isn't good enough either. We have Hendo who is similar, younger, better and on lower wages}


17 Apr 2013 13:26:56
Milners like Kuyt but without the goalscoring instinct that grabs you 10-15 goals a season. He'll run all day, cross it in occasionally, track back and help, but also has a poor first touch, and unlike Kuyt doesn't seem to fluke his way out of tight spaces.

I don't think he's worth what City will ask for him.

YNWA! (Adam)


17 Apr 2013 14:43:02
Adam.
good and sensible remarks.
But will you say such. if Liverpool buy him?
hard to say right?
I was ripped here by my other frndz. of saying such about players who did not turn up. nor. impressed me.
Liverpool fans can slate any player from any clubs.
but when they come to us. they become. maradona.


17 Apr 2013 15:31:16
Hit my name into the search bar Harry. I did some player assessments and I was very balanced and honest. I didn't try to paper over their cracks, but at the same time didn't blow their trumpets. Even look at my assessment I have just done on Rodgers further up the page. My views on being a supporter is praise the good, constructively criticise the bad, but support them till they are gone, unless said person is becoming destructive to the club. For example, I wanted Aquilani gone, not because I disliked him, or didn't want him to do well, but because he was damaging our finances.

I always think one must present a balanced argument and avoid bias. Liverpool are good, and improving, but not there yet.

YNWA! (Adam)


 

 

17 Apr 2013 10:15:31
We have a squad in place. What we don't have is players who should be starters & can actually turn the match on their own.

Enrique, Henderson, Allen, Lucas, Downing, Borini, Sturridge, Sterling (because he is still raw), Wisdom, Kelly.
These players are very good squad players. I know we paid very high prices for a few of them but that's our mistake.
The youngsters need time to develop so for now they should be squad players.
Personally I think we should sell Downing, he has played well recently but still not a goal threat, which is his main job. He is on too high wages to be squad player.

Ideally we should bring in a replacement for Skrtel.
Bring in a beast of a DM, who goes into tackles hard, can keep possession, open up the play & most important doesn't get bullied by teams like Stoke & Oldham.
Need some pace on the wings. Coutinho has made his case. he would be a lot better than he already is next season, when he is fully fit & comes to term with the pace of the game here.
So need to bring in a pacey RW to replace Downing.
Eriksen has been linked hugely with us & for a reason. Henderson does all the hard work but he hasn't that cutting edge when it comes to attack. We need a proper CAM. Maybe shift Coutinho to CAM & bring in a LW.
Lat but not the least we should get a fox in the box. I hope Borini fulfills that need but we haven't had a proper poacher since ages.

These are my views, I maybe wrong on a few points. Feel free to correct me out, but in a civilized manner please.

Musicnation


Whole new team then yeah? that is not what we need! 3/4 quality first team players is what we need

13reds


The reason eriksen is linked with us is because someone with an over stretched imagination always post a silly rumour and like lemmings most follow! We ARE at present a mid table club! Those with an ounce of ambition are not going to want to join! eriksen, alderweireld, isco, cavani etc etc are NOT going to want to join!


 

 

17 Apr 2013 09:40:14
Hi Ed hope your good this morning. I fully understand Liverpools position and their current financial, transfer policy. A properly run buisness is way over due to be honest.
So this is just asking your opinion really, and anyone elses obviously. I see last night Balague stated Man U have allready made a payment on Falcao, there is a fair chance Cavani will be here, Dede and schurle to chelsea, and I can even see rooney to PSG and Ronaldo back ( along with a few Real players ).
My point is we can strengthen in a few places this summer of course, but we are currently 10 points off fourth and at least 30 off the top, given that the top 4 are going to be bringing in the very best players available to improve teams allready more competetive than us, is it possible without massive short term investment ( Man U, Blackburn, Chelsea, Man city) to get back to the top.
Even Barca spend huge to supplement their home grown players?
Just like your thoughts really.
RNred {Ed002's Note - There has been no agreement reached with Manchester United over Falcao but as I have explained this coming season will see record spending. Liverpool have sustained very high levels of spending year-on-year but for some reason some fans simply cannot grasp that.}


17 Apr 2013 10:14:08
Ed. that's coz. after spending so much. we are still in 7th position.
usually when any club spend over 120 mill.
it will either have a bunch of super stars with them.
or atleast some trophies.
fans are just dissapointed with this stats {Ed002's Note - Unfortunately that is a matter for the managers. The money has gone and in the future much, but not all, of the transfer funding will need to be generated by sales.}


Ed it was not a go at the owners or the money thay have put in, although a lot of that is wasted because of the changing managers wanting different types of players. Blackburn, Chelsea, and City invested huge amounts in a very short time frame to make a huge impact.
Wenger came in and added world cup winners to what was really Grahams team, and Utd have constantly had a decent budget to keep rejuvenating the team. Now I think the owners have been great, and we finaly seem to have some sort of stability and direction at the club.
The point is do you think it is possible to make a challenge without at least matching the top four spending this transfer window?
Myself I think we can improve the squad, but making ground on the top 4 will be difficult as they will all spend big, and have CL cash to help. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has for years repeatedly matched or bettered the "top four" in spending - for some reason you just cannot see that.}


With out giving us a figure for you think Liverpool will spend high or low? {Ed002's Note - This has been done to death.}


 

 

16 Apr 2013 15:22:47
eds dou think borini has a future at Liverpool and do you rate him? {Ed052's Note - yes and yes. He has learnt his trade, done well in Italy, and we got him for a good price. He is a stunning finisher, and, im really excited for when he will be able to get a run in the team. He will be like a new signing next year.}


Ed. What player have you being watching? {Ed052's Note - I dont snap judge a player, who is 20, just moved to a new club, playing out of position and under pressure after only 10 games...}


Totally disagree the signings are some of the worst I've ever seen. Joe Allen is the worst 17.5 million pound midfielder I've ever seen. Borini was crap when he was playing not worth a penny over 3million. Assaidi is crap so was sahin how much did that loan cost us. Still not a fan of sturrige he is crap so greedy a few goals and all the fans are loving him what has he done in the last few months. He had 5 chances against reading and he never scored. BR is useless at changing games at half time he plays players who. are Injured when better players are on the bench. I give him till December till he is sacked. The icing on the cake is the cup competitions what the hell has BR done in. the cups other than get knocked out of every single one.


Ed if you can't see that he's useless then I think a trip to specsavers is in line. Regardless of what position you play you adapt and he hasnt {Ed052's Note - he's young and played a handful of games. Give him a chance}


17 Apr 2013 11:24:03
Rodgers will be more then happy to sell borini in order to Generate more funds for other players he wants.


Stunning finisher! How many goals has he scored?


Why would BR be lining up to sell Borini for a "player he likes"? Zero sense made there.


Has anyone else noticed that every time someone talks about how bad they think Allen and Borini are, their quoted price gets higher and higher.


Totally agree with you ed. He has been played out of position and suffered two injuries. Give him a chance and I do believe he will be a good player, not up there with the likes of suarez but he will be good for us.


Stunning? how on earth did you come to that conclusion?


Come on people, stop hating on Liverpool players. Borini is a good player, and I can't wait to see next years battle of sturridge, coutinho, borini and downing/new winger for starting births.
Ed052, what do you expect for our attacking set up next year, esp if we don't qualify for Europe? Will we give rotational chance to all our perspective players? Man, I even forgot to throw Sterling in the mix!

Drigan {Ed052's Note - I just hope we don't sell Downing. I can see a mix of DS and Borini through the middle. Coutinho attacking off the left, and Downing and a new player, possibly, for the right wing. Suarez, who know?! Then Gerrard a bit further forward too. I don't think a huge amount will change, as long as LS stays. If he goes, we may need to fiddle with the system, as we wont be able to get a like for like replacement.}


 

 

14 Apr 2013 23:50:59
hi edds just a quick one I would like a season review from your point of view how u think we have done have we gone forward and does there need to be changes cheers

mike {Ed052's Note - we have improved massively. More points. Moregoals. More clean sheets. More youngsters. Better football. A younger team. The top prem scorer. All players have improved under BR, e.g. Hendo. We have even improved against lower league teams, remembering the 4 and 5 nils we had at Anfield about 6 games in a row. Also, signings have been good, take Coutinho. And we are fitter and stronger than ever, look at Agger and Gerrard. A hugelh positive season}


We have improved! BR is the right man but don't be silly when it comes to signings. We spent in total close to 40m and have noting to show for it. Borini was average in Italy and players from serie A tend not to do well in England. Allen was the worst buy from any team in the prem last summer as he cost close to 20m all things included. Sahin wasn't given a chance. Assaidi hasn't kicked a ball but we will make our money back in him.

On the other hand coutinho and sturridge have made a big difference. Coutinho is an exemption to the Italy rule but he did really well in Spain which has a quicker tempo. Furthermore kids have came in and excelled which shows they can be our squad players and we only have to buy players that are already better than what we got.


 

 

17 Apr 2013 09:04:41
Is it true the toon are looking to get andy back for 7million what a joke they ripped us of once now tell them to go away they are laughing at us I'd rather sell him to anybody else for less JON96


I hear Cardiff City are willing to offer Liverpool last week's edition of Vogue, an half eaten walnut whip and what I would describe as a questionable looking orange for Andy Carroll.

Although there are people within the Cardiff City hierarchy that believe the offer could be an orange too much. We will have to wait and see how this pans out.

Disney!


17 Apr 2013 09:27:26
Andy carrol is no more worth than 10 mill on any day. wether its now or after 5 years.
the guy fits only into teams like new castle, west ham, stoke etc.
and BTW apart from rooney which english CF is worth 20 mill +?
welbeck?, defoe?, cole? bent?


My theoretical question from yesterday still applies ; namely a straight swap - Diame for Carroll?
Answers on a postcard please.
The Juicer


If we get 10mil for Andy then I think we will be lucky - he can only play in a team that lumps the ball into the box and they don't usually spend big money. 10mil would be enough to contribute to a great center back though so I'd be happy with that.

Fowler99


 

 

17 Apr 2013 07:24:47
After what Gerrard said about Torres and how he left Liverpool in such respectable circumstances doesn't that just contradict what you have been saying since he left, or he left on bad terms?

I don't understand why a return for Torres is completely out the question when he is obviously still loved by the players.

Thoughts eds?

James


Because Torres is no longer good enough, due to him being unable to regularly score for 3 years? Because he would need to take something like a 70% pay cut? Because most fans wouldn't want to see him in a Liverpool shirt ever again? Because who the players are friends with in their private lives has no bearing on who we target for transfer? Pick your two favorites


Trying to sign a friend for SG ws the thing that triggered our decline. Remember the Gareth Berry saga that lost us Alonso


 

 

17 Apr 2013 00:23:29
Hey eds, now twitter isn't the most reliable sight in the world, I know but it's an interesting rumour I've heard from a source that is yet to be wrong and is Barcelona related. Apparently Barcelona Cadet A forward Sergi Canos (16) is close to joining Liverpool. His agent has been talking with the club for weeks. Do you know anything about this, or the player for that matter? Cheers mate, top job you lads do on here. {Ed002's Note - What would he do until he is 18?}


I thought if one parent moves with him its fine?

GuvTOB {Ed002's Note - If family relocate it is OK.}


 

 

17 Apr 2013 00:51:57
Christian Eriksen has 4 offers to consider, and as of tonight, he is favouring the move to Anfield. As a Danish adopted scouser I would love him to join, but he is waiting for other offers before committing to us, so I wonder if that is the type of player Liverpool should sign. Commitment to the shirt is what we need, for me. Yes?
Not Jan Molby.


What a load of rubbish you speak. If as you say he's decided on a move to anfeild then why would he be he waiting for other offers?


I didn't say he decided on a move, just that of the offers available, we are the prefered choice. Not his first choice of club, hence why he is waiting on more offers. Learn to read.


To second poster, I think original poster was indicating than out of the 4 offers Liverpool was his top choice, and maybe if clubs that have CL , are the other offers he's on about!


Nope, he has no intention of joining Liverpool what so ever!


Is the other three offers from Aldershot, Barnet & Torquay United by any chance?

Disney!


17 Apr 2013 09:29:19
he is probably off to City. he will replace silva.
nowhere he is going to come to a non CL team


Brilliant disney lol


 

 

 
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