Liverpool Banter Archive September 16 2010

 

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16 Sep 2010 23:18:27
Nob ed am I u sad t* t! So will u guarantee me that cos of one goal you Lucas loving dip s* t we now av the new socrates get real armchair fan!

 

 

16 Sep 2010 23:15:20
Kyrgiakos:liverpool had 1.5m to find 4th choice defender in Kyrgiakos. Leave the man alone, he is cover for first team.

Ngog: (Ngog scores a hatrick he is not and never will be a Liverpool player absolute rubbish)I felt Ngog need more muscle on him, if he able to battle alittle bit more up front, we may have a player for us, He can shoot.

Spearing: passed well, like to see more of him

R Babel: trained extra hard for his place.lol

performance: (Obviously not getting carried away) we shouldnt do, they defended badly, let Joe Cole have miles of space. Im surpised he didn't get a trick.

Lucas: lucas was never a holding midfielder, when we bought him from brazil he was A/ Mid. Benitez would turn messi or ronaldo into a defender if he had his way.

Lucas: (yes the lad scored, but it was flukey coz he took such a poor first touch) Lucas scored against Manu when we won 4-1, i know he can score in prem, everyone knows he has eye for goal. but isn't being played right position and given restrictions in his play.

Lucas at Grêmio, was given to the best player in the Campeonato Brasileiro an honour previously won by the likes of Zico, Falcão, Careca, Alex, Romario, Kaká and Tévez. Acacking midfield for Grêmio.

Rafael Benítez: said: "I am looking forward to seeing him score goals for Liverpool in the future and". Then Rafa plays him in deep defensive midfield role as cover for javi.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 23:05:10

The***** talks total h*lloxs

 

 

16 Sep 2010 23:02:51

I would love to see Kelly played at right back perminantly and johnson on the wing overlapping,
hes a far better defender and very strong going forward, and nobody else is a patch on johnson going forward and he can track back and tackle, i honestly belive with kelly we have the future liverpool and england captain,
also shelvey realy needs some playing time he reminds me of gerrard at that age, maybe even more composed on the ball

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 23:00:27

As football fans, i am asuming most have played football at some level, its hard to play when u have been given restrictions like lucas was. . he scored ok great but he is playing for lfc, rafa liked him roy liked him, brazil manager likes him, don't tell me all these ppl are wrong. so hopefully he can play his natural game and he can flourish

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:58:39

One goal and all of a sudden Lucas is a great player again f*ck off u sad Lucas lovers he's s* t full stop! I can't uderstand why u armchair fans rave on about him he is absolute bollox FACT! Next u will be saying hicks and gillet are legends.

nob ed, before lucas came here and rafa used him in his wrong position, he won brazilian footballer of the year, give him time playing in his favoured position and i gaurentee results

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:55:51
I hope lucas gets given a chance in his prefered role, (further forward in midfield, scored for brazil and now us) if he can chip in with a few i think the so called " fans" will give him a break and maybe say well done lad.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:53:52
One goal and all of a sudden Lucas is a great player again f*ck off u sad Lucas lovers he's s* t full stop! I can't uderstand why u armchair fans rave on about him he is absolute bollox FACT! Next u will be saying hicks and gillet are legends.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:49:58
Wat he same tottenham that are in the champions league and finished 4th you nob

Banter post of the weak ed

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:49:55
"yes the lad scored, but it was flukey coz he took such a poor first touch that he got the chance to bladder it. wasnt top corner, jus the keeper was blinded."

What chance has the lad got, with utter gobs* tes like this 'supporting' the team? He's never had a fair crack of the whip since Benitez took Gerrard off for him V Everton (if his goal bound shot in that game wasn't stopped, leading to the winning pen, I think things might have been different, but hey. ) I like him simply because he's got the balls to take all this without complaint - that's the spirit we need to compensate for the terrible support the team tends to get nowadays.

He's shown enough for us to know he's a player given the chance - but you lot will never accept that. ''the keeper was blinded', I've heard it all now.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:47:54

In response

Spearing and Mereiles would be my team - before Lucas/ Paulson combo - hands down = Wilson and pancheco should have started ahead of the Greek and Babel.

pancheco? ?? is that not some form of italian ham oh you mean pancetta lol div

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:42:43

In response
This is not a rumor. This is a fact. Woy Hod is NOT, I repeat NOT a Liverpool manager. It just doesn't feel right. I am watching the best club in the country becoming another Leeds united, another Tottenham Hotspur. We have been going that way for ten years. The situation is now at critical. The team was average, now no better than Birmingham, the ground is behind the times, the atmosphere has died, the new signings desperate. we have missed the premiership money train and are trying to live on a past reputation.

wat he same tottenham that are in the champions league and finished 4th you nob

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:37:37
I gotta disagree wiv u there ed, joe was risky and that's wot we need in the final 3rd tried the killer pass, flicks and tricks and a lot of hussling. maxi did the job got crosses in helped kelly and was always an outlet.
i think jay needs to be playing in most cup games and lesser prem teams to build him up. i think a good response from lfc, did the job without some big names. their team was fast and there midfield due were good, jay mireles did really well.i like the look of konceski in our team adds a bit of steel. all in all happy with today no complaints, lol except the goal, that could have been avoided

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:24:26
I hope lucas has kept a few critics of his back with that goal. The boy is learning his trade, good to see kelly have a good game and ngog.
Im glad maxi played, his experiance was key today, up and down that flank. the greek looked a bit shakey at the back, and babel played with effort and determination, Joe showed some great touches, and good movement, mireles looks good, and young jay didn't do himself any harm with that performance.
ed wot u think? {ed's note - I thought Cole was wasteful in possession and Ngog just reacts rather than anticipates, he will never be a great striker but he has the ability to be one. I really don't see the point in Maxi, I just don't see what he does for the team, he is just not doing enough. I was impressed with Kelly, he had a good game and Spearing did more in that game than Mash did in all of his.}

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:23:47

Fact - I've consistently said that Spearing could do as good a job as Masch for the past 2 years. He had no chance under the Fat Waiter who wasn't interested if they couldn't speak Spanish. Still not convinced by Ngog, Babel or Maxi. Meireles looks a great buy - was obvious in the 10pm minutes he got on Sunday.
RedTed

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:21:59

Delighted with the result tonight! It's great to see Joe Cole get off the mark and hopefully that will give him some confidence for Sunday. Also glad to see Ngog keep up his good goalscoring form. However, a couple things Roy did made me a bit unhappy. First, why were both Carragher and Johnson on the bench? If they are not going to start then why would we include them in the squad instead of the likes of Wilson and Darby? Second, why did he bring on Lucas when Shelvey was right there? While Lucas took his goal really well I still think Shelvey needs the experience more and I would rather he have come on instead. ED, if you can address either of my concerns I would appreciate that.
Anfield Rapstar {ed's note - Carra and Johnson were there in case things went badly. Lucas was brought on because he needs to recover the confidence he has lost due to the fans getting on his back. He was told to get on and get a goal and he did.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:16:19
"Why do liverpool managers not believe in a thing called a subsitute?!

Shelvey should be getting a bit of time so Meralis can play at the weekend!"

Roy just can't keep you t* ts happy can he? First he gets criticised for not playing him, now he gets it for not taking him off - howabout him getting a good run out to get the feel of the team before he starts on Sunday. Who'd be a manager?

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:13:29

Just read on newsnow Liverpool. that hicks is trying to refiance the debt to take club on, and RBS will consider this option. if this happens we are docked. Cheers felow reds psv elnino.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:10:49

"from theturdz who carries the sword of truth and justice and gives it to you straight and doesn't give a f*ck what you think of him"

In that case you won't mind me saying that I think you are a 24 carat KN*B!

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:10:12

LUCAS UPDATE

yes the lad scored, but it was flukey coz he took such a poor first touch that he got the chance to bladder it. wasnt top corner, jus the keeper was blinded. Against a prem side he would never hav had time after such a lame first touch.

The good news is hopefully rafa will now buy him in January.

SARAH BINSTEAD YNWA * * * * *

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:05:45

I was not an Ngog fan but as he walked off , .I now know what it means to him. .Good luck to him. he wants to do well. What time are the Lucas fans on? SMF

 

 

16 Sep 2010 22:03:20
The antichrist
Tom Hicks aims to refinance debts in an effort to remain in control at Liverpool
Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks will attempt to refinance debts of £237 million with Royal Bank of Scotland in an effort to remain in control at Anfield,

Tom Hicks is considering raising fresh finance to buy out the RBS debt
Hicks flew to London earlier this week and met with Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton and the club management team on Wednesday. He is understood to have told them that raising fresh finance to buy out the RBS debt is one a number of options he is considering ahead of the Oct 6 refinancing deadline set by the bank.

It is unclear whether Hicks is yet in a position to buy out the RBS loans, incurred in the acquisition of the club in 2007.

The Texan is not thought to have held talks with RBS during his UK visit, but the bank is considering extending its financing to Hicks and co-owner George Gillett in order to provide Broughton with more time to secure a buyer for the club.

Such a move would undoubtedly prove unpopular with supporters hopeful that Oct 6 would see the bank call time on owners who have become deeply unwelcome on Merseyside.

Perhaps significantly Gillett has not been part of the talks in London this week and his precise role in the negotiations remains uncertain. His position may be complicated by the fact that he used his 50 per cent stake in the club as security against borrowings he made in order to meet RBS's demand for personal guarantees in a previous refinancing round in 2008.

Were Hicks to be successful in raising the money to buy out RBS, Broughton and his colleagues on the club board would have to decide whether to attempt to block the deal.

Broughton, managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre blocked the American's last attempt to refinance in June. They did so only having taken legal advice from Slaughter & May that they were able to do so.

Company law requires directors to act in the best interests of the shareholders - in this case Hicks and Gillett - but in some circumstances they can over-ride those concerns if it is deemed to be in the company's interests.

If Hicks returns with a refinancing deal before Oct 6 they will face the same choice. Broughton is understood to have told Hicks on Wednesday that the board remain open-minded and will listen to any proposal he places before it.

Broughton, who was appointed in April as a condition of RBS extending the financing to the Americans for six months, has made it clear that he considers the sale of the club to an owner who removes the club's debt and allows investment in a new stadium to be the best deal for Liverpool's future.

The absence of any buyers willing to meet Hicks' and Gillett's valuation has placed RBS in a deeply uncomfortable position, and despite pressure from supporters there appears to be little appetite within the bank to force the American's into default.

Bank sources have told Telegraph Sport that taking control at Anfield is their least-favoured option, and that they will consider extending the current financing arrangement if required.

They have also suggested that they will take a "more active" role in the sales process, though with just three weeks until the refinancing deadline and a shortage of interested parties that appears to be positioning ahead of a deeply sensitive period.

While RBS has moved the loans to its "bad bank", the global restructuring group, Hicks has consistently maintained that Liverpool is a growing and increasingly profitable company rather than a distressed asset.

His pursuit of a potential refinancing deal indicates his determination to remain involved and recognise value from the club.
MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL HIM, MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL HIM, HE WEARS THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST 666

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:59:04
Obviously not getting carried away because it was far from perfect, but the same old t* ts on here before the end of the game bitching about this and that player - you should be ashamed. Call yourselves football fans, the last time I looked it's not possible to watch a game of footie and type. Get a new hobbie, you pricks.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:59:03
Please, Mr. Babel, resign from our club - you are not good enough. Well done Roy and LFC! !
Red Herr Ing

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:56:56

Not bad at all for our B team - If our A team is back on top against manure at the w/ e all will look very rosy indeed!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:54:31
This is not a rumor. This is a fact. Woy Hod is NOT, I repeat NOT a Liverpool manager. It just doesn't feel right. I am watching the best club in the country becoming another Leeds united, another Tottenham Hotspur. We have been going that way for ten years. The situation is now at critical. The team was average, now no better than Birmingham, the ground is behind the times, the atmosphere has died, the new signings desperate. we have missed the premiership money train and are trying to live on a past reputation.
This could be the worst season In my living memory.
Come on board get this mess sorted out before it is to late. It is almost unthinkable to be in this situation knowing what we have achieved in the past.
How on Earth did we get here?

First time very worried poster. {ed's note - what is wrong with Meireles? He looks decent, always looking to keep the ball moving quickly. Kelly has looked good as well, that bodes well for the future. It is the present that is the problem with the deadwood (like Kyrgiakos) that Rafa left behind. Oh and it is good to see Babel putting in some effort.}

Ed - can't you smell the Manure on the above post?
gazman

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:47:58
Come on redmen. superb tonight. The squad players have really stood up, and how good was Joe Cole? jesus. And well done to Lucas. Fantastic strike. Well done Roy, Meireless was superb. Maxi, wonderful. I hope Joe builds on his performance.

(delighted)Gazman

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:42:31
Oh my god lucas what a goal

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:35:37

Why do liverpool managers not believe in a thing called a subsitute?!

Shelvey should be getting a bit of time so Meralis can play at the weekend!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:30:41

Spearing and Mereiles would be my team - before Lucas/ Paulson combo - hands down = Wilson and pancheco should have started ahead of the Greek and Babel.

Big A

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:19:25
He better not sell aquailani :(

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:10:46
Dont care if Ngog scores a hatrick he is not and never will be a Liverpool player absolute rubbish, and why is Wilson not playing instead of the greek. .
Magsman ynwa

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 21:00:47

Spearing has got ALLOT better shot on him than Masch and he is nearly as good in the tackle plus his passing is solid. He just needs experience now!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 20:59:28
I am not a happy bunny (nor am I very optomistic about the future)

Mal 5

 

 

16 Sep 2010 20:57:30

This is not a rumor. This is a fact. Woy Hod is NOT, I repeat NOT a Liverpool manager. It just doesn't feel right. I am watching the best club in the country becoming another Leeds united, another Tottenham Hotspur. We have been going that way for ten years. The situation is now at critical. The team was average, now no better than Birmingham, the ground is behind the times, the atmosphere has died, the new signings desperate. we have missed the premiership money train and are trying to live on a past reputation.
This could be the worst season In my living memory.
Come on board get this mess sorted out before it is to late. It is almost unthinkable to be in this situation knowing what we have achieved in the past.
How on Earth did we get here?

First time very worried poster. {ed's note - what is wrong with Meireles? He looks decent, always looking to keep the ball moving quickly. Kelly has looked good as well, that bodes well for the future. It is the present that is the problem with the deadwood (like Kyrgiakos) that Rafa left behind. Oh and it is good to see Babel putting in some effort.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 20:49:25
Just remembering that I read somewhere that Kyrgiakos has the turning circle of a tank, how true that looks tonight {ed's note - I think that is harsh, most tanks can turn very tightly, I would say he turns like an oil tanker meself. Considering he has no pace why doesn't he drop back a bit like Hyypia always used to?}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 20:45:07
Wow anfield is packed tonight:)come on united RSA

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 20:42:34

Don't think Meireles has missed a single pass in the first 35 minutes. Quality player.
N'gog looks like he's struggling.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 20:23:59
Joe cole looks good.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 19:57:58

I have to say i'm always at odds with the Ed over the picking of youth players. Although he doesn't say pick youth for the sake of it, there is a balance that needs to be met and one that not many fans really take much heed.

On one hand you have the valid argument that if you do not play these lads, how the hell do you expect them to A) improve and B) prove they are good enough

However on the other if you throw them in either singularly or in a bunch you will end up exposing their weaknesses and inexperience to the extent that they will not recover.

It is a very delicate thing. I played as a youngster in a very successful team, however at times i made mistakes that years later i never did. Luckily for me, the manager kept faith and i obviously did enough to stay in the first team. However as i grew as a first team regular so reports of younger players coming through the ranks would be heard. Before long they would be thrown in, on many occasions at the wrong time, many didn't survive the experience, some did.

It wasn't down to whether they had ability or not, they all did, but whether they had the mental ability to cope with the errors, the pressure, the step up in class etc.

I do not subscribe to throwing young players in willy nilly. Yes you will always have the exceptions, the Gerrard's, Messi's, of this world but on the whole you have to drip feed them into the team.

I've read many posts wanting David Amoo to play, based on the fact he scored twice for the reserves the other day. He isn't ready yet. Not for awhile yet. He'll need to do more this season to leap into the first team.

Unlike the Ed, i am not convinced on Pacheco. I believe Kelly is ready and should be in the first team squad every week and again i hope he plays tonight. Shelvey is another who is nearly there but needs a little more time to settle into the club. Mavinga is another who is nearly there. Spearing, i do not think is good enough. Amoo, Ngoo, Ince for example are not ready yet.

The other reason you do not throw kids in, is the fans. Yes some of the tools on here that have no patience, who will jeer and moan at every pass that goes astray, who will not give any thought to the fact they are young and inexperienced, will heap the pressure on, scream, groan and the like. Yes you know who you are, unfortunately you can be quite talented at ruining players. The players actually need protecting from our fans sometimes. There does not appear to be many fans around now who will give young players a chance to make mistakes and not judge them on that.

That said, i would like Roy to give Mavinga, Shelvey, Pacheco a bloody good run out in the Carling Cup in the early rounds.

Bob the Red totally agree, i think shelvey looks a player, kelly for me is ahead of johnson. pacheco needs to get 15mins regularly and increase as his confidence grows

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 19:45:39

Who thinks Pacheco should have started and we rest maxi because kuyt is still out and he's our only Senior winger

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 19:31:41

The kop will fall in love with Raul Meireles tonight.
And Kelly will make a big claim to the right back slot.

COME ON REDMEN

Gazman

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 19:16:02
I have to say i'm always at odds with the Ed over the picking of youth players. Although he doesn't say pick youth for the sake of it, there is a balance that needs to be met and one that not many fans really take much heed.

On one hand you have the valid argument that if you do not play these lads, how the hell do you expect them to A) improve and B) prove they are good enough

However on the other if you throw them in either singularly or in a bunch you will end up exposing their weaknesses and inexperience to the extent that they will not recover.

It is a very delicate thing. I played as a youngster in a very successful team, however at times i made mistakes that years later i never did. Luckily for me, the manager kept faith and i obviously did enough to stay in the first team. However as i grew as a first team regular so reports of younger players coming through the ranks would be heard. Before long they would be thrown in, on many occasions at the wrong time, many didn't survive the experience, some did.

It wasn't down to whether they had ability or not, they all did, but whether they had the mental ability to cope with the errors, the pressure, the step up in class etc.

I do not subscribe to throwing young players in willy nilly. Yes you will always have the exceptions, the Gerrard's, Messi's, of this world but on the whole you have to drip feed them into the team.

I've read many posts wanting David Amoo to play, based on the fact he scored twice for the reserves the other day. He isn't ready yet. Not for awhile yet. He'll need to do more this season to leap into the first team.

Unlike the Ed, i am not convinced on Pacheco. I believe Kelly is ready and should be in the first team squad every week and again i hope he plays tonight. Shelvey is another who is nearly there but needs a little more time to settle into the club. Mavinga is another who is nearly there. Spearing, i do not think is good enough. Amoo, Ngoo, Ince for example are not ready yet.

The other reason you do not throw kids in, is the fans. Yes some of the tools on here that have no patience, who will jeer and moan at every pass that goes astray, who will not give any thought to the fact they are young and inexperienced, will heap the pressure on, scream, groan and the like. Yes you know who you are, unfortunately you can be quite talented at ruining players. The players actually need protecting from our fans sometimes. There does not appear to be many fans around now who will give young players a chance to make mistakes and not judge them on that.

That said, i would like Roy to give Mavinga, Shelvey, Pacheco a bloody good run out in the Carling Cup in the early rounds.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 18:57:56
RE:

1> I thought harry did some great business with £8m for van der vaart on transfer dead line date, Raul Meireles and VdV are differnt players mates, plus we need a winger at liverpool. would of made sense buying him.

2> Roy Hodgson should be more positive in comments, if he shows confidence then the players will show it on the pitch, and the fans will in the street. Great believer in positive energy. It filters down the club from the manager

3> ManU this weekend, Roy has the team well drilled in formation and defending. Goals are lacking, but Joe will be back and i think we can get 1 or 2 goals. Once Torres finds the goal net, we will start winning.

4> results:
Arsenal, draw
man city, lost
WBA, win
Birmingham, draw

I think rafa would of had the same results. Looking at it, Arsenal, Man city we would be looking at a draw. Birmingham too. Atleast we are picking up points and rafa knew that draw points add up to extra position up in the league tables and close the grap with top 4.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 18:31:26

Why do all the super fans out there think that they are in the know as to who is taking over our club be it sheik mactoum rhone group or ronald mcdonald nobody knows who it is going to be until it happens and people who think that man city will sell us adam johnston I could give you about 7 reasons of the top of my head as to why they won't we all need to get behind the team tonight and hope that some of our lost stars learn how to shine again

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 18:08:14

16 Sep 2010 17:56:25

16 Sep 2010 17:15:22

Stefan Perrson - Owner of Hennes & Mauritz Net Worth: USD $18.4 Billion Sweden

Stefan Persson was born October 4, 1947. He is the son of Erling Persson who founded the Swedish fashion company Hennes & Mauritz (H&M). Since 1982, Stefan has been the main owner of H&M. According to Forbes Magazine, Persson is worth $18.4 billion in 2007, making him the second richest man in Sweden and the 17th richest person in the world. He lives in Stockholm, Sweden. He is a supporter of Djurgårdens IF and is co-funding a foundation for the club.

Liverpool are loved and admired in Sweden.


THEY ADMIRE THE HISTORY AND WHOLE ETHOS AND ETHICS OF THE CLUB (pre 2007) AND THE LINKS WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. LIVERPOOL IS THE ENGLISH CLUB OF THE SWEDES. THE CITY HAS STRONG MARITIME LINKS WITH SWEDEN TOO.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:56:25

16 Sep 2010 17:15:22

Stefan Perrson - Owner of Hennes & Mauritz Net Worth: USD $18.4 Billion Sweden

Stefan Persson was born October 4, 1947. He is the son of Erling Persson who founded the Swedish fashion company Hennes & Mauritz (H&M). Since 1982, Stefan has been the main owner of H&M. According to Forbes Magazine, Persson is worth $18.4 billion in 2007, making him the second richest man in Sweden and the 17th richest person in the world. He lives in Stockholm, Sweden. He is a supporter of Djurgårdens IF and is co-funding a foundation for the club.

Liverpool are loved and admired in Sweden.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:47:32

Marin wouldn't be able to hack it in the epl, too small too lightweight.

What just like Luka Modric! ?

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:42:56


Not Ingvar Kamprad & family from IKEA but Stefan Persson of the retail Brand H&M (worth $13bn).


What? So Ikea are providing the furniture for the re-fitted executive boxes and H&M the clothing for the waiting staff?

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:35:02

" . . {ed's note - some people think that giving kids a chance is not the way to go though. They talk about experience and kids being too lightweight etc, it is why the youth system in this country is so poor that almost every player in the EPL academies is shipped in from abroad. There is not enough faith in youth here.} . . "

Then what's the point of a youth system?
Rooney - "too young David, don't use him."
Hernandez - "too young Alex, don't bother!"

Get real please. {ed's note - exactly!}

I think what it boils down to Ed is pressure on managers, they're too scared to play the kids in case it doesn't work. Think the game against Northampton next week is an excellent chance to blood some young talent eh Ed. . or am I just talking Cobblers.

Sooty {ed's note - I am groaning here mate, I think you have watched far too much Soccer AM.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:33:15

* Marin wouldn't be able to hack it in the epl, too small too lightweight.

modric at spurs has done very very well & their around the same frame, although he (marin) is well out of our league at the moment

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:30:07

SOS have released a statement this afternoon about the rumours that Hicks and Gillette were going to be at the game tonight. . .there is an interesting line in the middle. .

"Following reports regarding Hicks and Gillett's possible attendance at tonight's match against Steaua Bucharest, Spirit Of Shankly has enquired with Merseyside Police to ascertain whether this is true. Subsequently, after they themselves checked with the club, we have been informed that neither Hicks and Gillett nor any member of their families will be in attendance tonight. There will, however, be business representatives at Anfield to show potential purchasers around the club.
Even with the prolonged 'sale' of the club, Spirit Of Shankly reiterates the message that Tom and George are Not Welcome Here, and that for any potential purchaser we would welcome the opportunity to engage with them about the sale process and the role supporters can play."

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:29:09

Apparently, we didn't just send scouts over to holland to watch wolfswinkel, we also sent scouts over to Romania to scout Lacina Traore!.
the guy is 6'8
has been labelled, the new adebayor (minus the attitude hopefully)
arsenal, real Madrid and Chelsea amongst other clubs have been watching him for the past year.
hopefully we can get him, IMO he is kinda like a cross between crouch and adebayor, he is the complete package!
the best part is, he is still only 19!
Dan
(also any more news about us being bought as in potential buyers? haven't been on here in a while)


Kin hell if he's that tall now he'll be 8'2' by the time he's 21, he'll get a part in Avatar 2.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:25:52

It would be insane for anybody to buy the club now as on 6th Oct the club goes into the hands of RBS I think, then the fun will start. Ed can RBS run the club as a going concern until a buyer is found(wont be a problem after the 6th I think) or will they put it into administration. Forgive me I don't understand the financial side of it.

Sooty {ed's note - only RBS know what they will do if it happens, but they can run it as a going concern if they choose.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:24:19

16 Sep 2010 17:12:04

Not Ingvar Kamprad & family from IKEA but Stefan Persson of the retail Brand H&M (worth $13bn).

What about the possibility of the Swede Sven Goran Errikson becoming the next manager if this interset is true. Hope not. Give Hodgson a chance. Also Hodgson has a pretty good reputation in Sweden.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 17:09:12
The issue with the youngsters not being given a chance, surely with the leven of opposition for tonights game we should at least 'risk playing one of our reserves like ince or sterling on the flank and kelly at right back. roy needs to find a balance and i think the technique of merieles and cole can offer us the time and passing needed for the youngsters not to worry too much and play football. babel up top on his own with cole behind again, then get pacecho and a young winger to alternate flanks, but everyone has to realise that we cannot blood to many youngsters at once as it will end in disaster due to the lack of quality in the rest of the team. and finally, the one thing i would like to see tonight is for us to play higher up the pitch and getting raul and cole on the ball as much as possible. have faith in the redmen 3-0 liverpool.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 16:28:55

" . . {ed's note - some people think that giving kids a chance is not the way to go though. They talk about experience and kids being too lightweight etc, it is why the youth system in this country is so poor that almost every player in the EPL academies is shipped in from abroad. There is not enough faith in youth here.} . . "

Then what's the point of a youth system?
Rooney - "too young David, don't use him."
Hernandez - "too young Alex, don't bother!"

Get real please. {ed's note - exactly!}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 16:07:25

15 Sep 2010 00:01:29


PS. Who's your source?

Cant really say mate other than he has been at the club a lot longer than most of the people on the board

Macca


So Macca, you've already ruled out The Toxics and Broughton. Cecil's not been here that long, but longer than Phillip Nash (non executive) which just leaves Ian Ayre, who has been at the club longer than any other board member (excutive or non-executive), with the exception of The Toxics, obviously.

Close?

 

 

16 Sep 2010 16:02:52
"STOP MOANING LIKE A BUNCH OF B*TCHES AND BE PROUD."

Great post 'LFC Cape Town', couldn't agree more, I cannot believe how wet some of the guys on here are - not one spine among them no matter how long they've supported the team.

I was more worried after the hell of the 90's than I am now - do you all forget how bad it was back then, when the FA Cup was as good as it got? As for the European cup - forget it.

My main worry is the negativity of the fans, listen to the support both Glasgow teams get compared with the lacklustre atmosphere at Anfield. I'd have said the two cities were very similar, but for some reason our fans throw in the towell and come on here bitching after three weeks of the league - I sure as hell wouldn't want to be playing in front of that every week.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:59:41

Beleiveble for David Amoo to play
Unbeleiveble For Maxi Rodrigues to play.

Maybe roy might stumble on this site, Read it and pick Amoo, Fingeres/ legs/ arms/ toes/ eyes crossed Amoo plays.


Really? yeah he looked alright for the first half last night, went missing for the second tho. personally i thought danny wilson looked really solid and also shelvey was handy and spirited. If ur gonna play a reserve striker tho (and by all accounts he is) it has to be babel and/ or pacheco surely? Oh yeah suso was pretty good too. . Duckula

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:48:15

16 Sep 2010 15:16:48

16 Sep 2010 14:53:55

ROY'S top JAN targets are SCOTT DANN & MARKO MARIN the GERMAN MESSI


REDMAN

* Marin wouldn't be able to hack it in the epl, too small too lightweight.

oh and you can add lacina traore and ricky van wolfswinkel to roys top targets!

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:44:05

Blair Mayne,

You are write in what you say with regards being done and nearly done, maybe that is me being getting a little overexcited with the info i get.

With regards the takeover i know there are a few parties who are very keen on buying the club, whether they wait to to buy it off the bank i am not sure.

I also have no ideas of time lines or the people interested just that it is close (that still could mean months with these complexed deals).

I can also confirm that the likes of Kenny Huang etc are all bogus claims. All the parties interested in buying the club have signed confidentiality agreements, this means that no one will find out till it is done.

With regards my source, i can guarantee it is someone on the main board. I am not willing to name names but its not the yanks or Broughton. "To the person who wrote that a deal for the club has been done, how reliable is your source?
We could do with macca to confirm this rumour using his source at the club."

Macca says put £50 on it as it's 100% done deal. LOL


Info as above mate, hope this explains

Macca

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:32:23

TOO SMALL!
SCHOLES MEKELELE WRIGHT PHILLIPS WISE ZOLA TEVEZ the list is huge

Marko Marin is linked to LFC like it or not.

REDMAN

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:30:07
OMG just seen the new improvements for Football Manager 2011, It looks even better than 2010, Cant wait till it comes out anyone no when its release date is, Ed any ideas
{Editor's note - I think it is the 29th of October}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:26:12


Blair Mayne YNWA said at 14 Sep 2010 23:51:30

"Round about the same time a certain Oracle/ Prophet pedicted that Torres would be moving to Chelsea.

Any idea who i'm talking about?"

I certainly gave my view that I thought Torres would leave; and I am a little surprised that he didn't.

Sharkey – with apologies for the late reply as I have only just got back the UK.

Welcome back Sharkey.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:17:05
Who the F*** is clicking Unbeleiveble on rumours page for Maxi to play, Surely the majority will choose Amoo before we kick of Including roy himself/ I would bet my HOUSE on the ED choosing Amoo all day long. {ed's note - some people think that giving kids a chance is not the way to go though. They talk about experience and kids being too lightweight etc, it is why the youth system in this country is so poor that almost every player in the EPL academies is shipped in from abroad. There is not enough faith in youth here.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:13:05

Owners:
I'm fed up of hearing fans blame poor performances on the owners. Look at Man United; they are in a very similar predicament to us (if not worse) yet they seem to pull out performances on the pitch. Yes the owners have done this club no good, but they are here and we have to live with that. Blaming them is just a scapegoat for the fact that we're not playing at an unacceptable standard.
Ed?

Also, on another point, I hate it when we play the likes of Torres and Johnson and they don't give 100%. Look at the Birmingham match, both were awful. Managers seem scared to leave players out because of their reputations. I would of rather of had a fit Babel or Pachecho playing that I knew would give 100%.

The same applies to any player, if they're not playing well, stick them on the bench. There's plenty of Youngsters that would give their right arm to have a chance at what they're doing week in week out.

I'd like to see:

Reina

Kelly Agger Skrtel Konchesky

Gerrard
Miereles Shelvey
Cole

Pacheco
Babel

We have no wingers (apart from Cole maybe) that are going to produce decent crosses so playing 442 isn't going to work. We need to focus on speeding up the play and I feel a diamond formation would do just that. I have left Torres out because he is disinterested and no player should put on a red shirt and have that attitutde.
ed? {ed's note - the reasons the owners get the blame is because they are part of the reason for the lack of confidence amongst the players. Roy has come in to a club on its knees and the owners have to take a massive proportion of the blame for it, along with Moores, Parry and Rafa. The current ineptitude is a hangover from last season, Hodgson will need time to sort things out, if he even can. I do agree about leaving out players who aren't performing, may as well give a kid a chance and see what he can do as pick someone who is out of form and will definitely let the side down.}

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:11:33
Gazman predictions:

Liverpool 3 Steaua Bucharest 1 - Ngog, Babel, Cole

Man Utd 0 Liverpool 1 - Torres on the hour

COME ON YOU REDS!

Gazman if steau can score against us i think scum will.

My predictions are

Liverpool 0 - 0 Steau

Liverpool 0 - 2 Scum Rooney, Nani. (i know i hate myself already/ feel free to hate me aswell)

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 15:07:31
Hey say Xherdan shaqiri is good enough now for the prem, So at 17 worth 2mill, Think we should theres not an awfull lot of young left sided talent in res/ accademy, Ed do you like this lad. {ed's note - yes I do, but I think Ince, Amoo, Sterling and Silva offer just as much as him currently. The only difference is that he is gaining experience in the first team at his club and for his country. About time some of our youngsters did the same.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 14:42:57
Gazman predictions:

Liverpool 3 Steaua Bucharest 1 - Ngog, Babel, Cole

Man Utd 0 Liverpool 1 - Torres on the hour

COME ON YOU REDS!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 13:46:26
{ed's note - I am very OCD about even watching us on the TV. The worst I got was one year under Roy Evans and I spilt some gravy on my shirt having lunch at my then girlfriend's parents. We won the game and I wouldn't let her wash the shirt because the gravy stain was 'lucky'. We went on an unbeaten run and ran away with the league, that is until she couldn't stand it any longer and washed the shirt, we ended up 4th if memory serves me correctly, I still haven't forgiven her now.}


ha! As long as it was just "gravy" you spilled ha !
Or her parents will never have forgiven you :)
Very good. Ya gotta love the OCD - i have to have my TV remote right in the middle of the coffee table facing the TV & the TV volume set to 40. There was much more OCD back in the 90's for me but i've been making steady progress & improvement ha !
If i shouted "Come on Liverpool" i had to repeat it 9 more times in my head to make ten times.
Jesus this feels like therapy :)
Hi, My name is Kevin & I'm a freak ha! {ed's note - I feel so much better knowing I am not the only nutjob!}


I love the above. My problem is that I worry that if I am watching the other team will score so I go and sit in the garden.

Rormac {ed's note - I can't bear not to be able to see, I get physically sick watching but I can't bear not seeing.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 13:24:14

Kev, erm I'm sorry if I annoyed you this week. I had the hump over our performance v Birmingham until last night. I respect your opinion mate as I do most fellow reds and I don't have a 'but' to add.

Somewhere deep down I couldn't help feeling Rafa was keeping the club a force to be reckoned with in European and world football.That season where we finished 2nd four points off winning the prem, if only we could've turned a couple of those draws at anfield into wins then things would've been VERY different today. I like your arguments against Rafa Kev, you possibly hit the mark on a lot of issues.

Good luck tonight and on Sunday Kev.

Gazman

P.s

To clear up your confusion regarding my name Kev, a lot of my mates call me Gaz - and one of them called me Gazman once and it stuck, nothing sinister I'm afraid. SO, I've taken my finger out of my arse now Kev, and I'm pointing it at you now fella

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 13:03:32

"Xherdan shaqiri won't be coming to liverpool because he has pace, skill and potential, with a bit of creativity also!"

You forgot to mention another reason. His fee (rumoured to be £2M) is too low to take a gamble on. The club prefer to gamble on players of much higher value (like Keane, Aquillani).

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:48:27
Ed i gonna go have some dinner now mate will defo see you in chat when it opens, so we can celebrate liverpools WIN ha {ed's note - fingers crossed! Have a good day mate.}

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:45:47

Xherdan shaqiri won't be coming to liverpool because he has pace, skill and potential, with a bit of creativity also!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:41:17
I think Jay Spearing will play also, But i reckon he'll be sold in Jan coz i don't think he'll be good enough for 1st team, Irwin, Suso, Palsson all look better than him and that dosnt include roberts and co who will play regular reserve team football next year, Unfortunatly i don't think Jay will cut it for us do you {ed's note - I don't think he will now, he was held back for far too long.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:39:42

16 Sep 2010 11:57:17

Keep the faith LFC fans! I've heard late last night that RBS will not take control of the club, as H&G have accepted a bid.The bid was nowhere near what they expected but they have both agreed its better to walk away with a profit rather than going through the courts and losing more money.They will walk away with a profit of millions.Don't know who new owners are! But was told Broughton will make a announcement last week in september, when G&H will have left and new owner unveiled. At long last !

God I hope your right, so where did you hear this my friend?

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:39:00

I read somewhere that apparently fund were found to have been swindled from the club only seen it once am ignoring it.
I like all fans hope the club gets mega rich and generous owners, for some reason the Rhone group do not appeal to me hedge fund companies are likely to drain the club.
Unless there is some bidder we haven't heard of i am far from satisfied with any of the candidates and doubt Kurdi's bid has the backing that is reported.
What do you think?

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:35:06
{ed's note - ok mate, 2-0 to us.}

I meant a realistic score Ed Lol, the way we are playing we won't score 2 goals in 1 game for long time, Unless we play Martin kelly, Daniel Pacheco, David Amoo and maybe Thomas Ince, That would liven things up/ stop us being boring, Coz you can only score if you ATTACK. do you reckon these lads will get a chance tonight, On LFC website Roy says he'll make changes for tonights game, Hope he means youth lads not the crap we won't dare play in important games lol {ed's note - it looks like Pacheco will play tonight.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:27:20
Ed if you won't predict manure game, How about trying to break your jinx and predict tonights game against steau, As it is unimortant due to us needing to consentrate on the league.

i predict

Liverpool 0 - 0 Steau {ed's note - ok mate, 2-0 to us.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:23:07
{ed's note - I wouldn't wish those on anyone, except maybe the Mancs, or Chelsea. Oh wait, I would rather they took over Barca or Real Madrid and destroyed them and cut out their ridiculous arrogance and constant attempts to destabilise any player they want to join them.}

woops touched a nerve there Ed lol, I don't mind what they are doing to be honest, Id love liverpool to be able to convince ANY player that were the ultimate team to play for, Unfortunatly were not anymore.

Do you think we'll ever be the Shankly/ Paisley Liverpool again.

I think we will just not for maybe 10 years minimum, As all levels of the Club have to be looked at closely. {ed's note - times have changed, there won't be any team like that again.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 12:14:20

Complaining does not make me a lesser supporter.
Making my points and bitching does not make me wrong, nor does it suggest I do not 'get behind the boys!"
The pointless and inane postings saying "stop complaining, " achieve zero.
Complaining is a way of suggestion, a method of dissaproval and a means of outlining ideas.
If we hadn't bitched and moaned about the banks not opening on a Saturday, they would still be telling us to mind our own business and shutting up shop at 3.30!. . . . . . . . . .

Blah Blah Blah Blah. . . mate you need to go and have a lie down.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 11:48:55

Complaining does not make me a lesser supporter.
Making my points and bitching does not make me wrong, nor does it suggest I do not 'get behind the boys!"
The pointless and inane postings saying "stop complaining, " achieve zero.
Complaining is a way of suggestion, a method of dissaproval and a means of outlining ideas.
If we hadn't bitched and moaned about the banks not opening on a Saturday, they would still be telling us to mind our own business and shutting up shop at 3.30!

Reply

Christ mate, stop maoning, you sound like my misses!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 11:41:33

Ed wouldn't it br great if H&G left LFC and joined the Glaziers at manure, What an ownership they would have lol {ed's note - I wouldn't wish those on anyone, except maybe the Mancs, or Chelsea. Oh wait, I would rather they took over Barca or Real Madrid and destroyed them and cut out their ridiculous arrogance and constant attempts to destabilise any player they want to join them.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 11:16:03

In the worst case scenario that h&g did manage to secure a new loan from a new lender, can the board block this loan from being secured against the club?

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 10:51:56

"Don't crticise the team!"
"Get off your a* e and support the boys!"
"Don't just sit there on your sofa, support the team!"
"Don't say anything about the team, just blindly accept everything and still say we are only inches away from winning every-single-thing in the whole world of football!"

Sorry, that last one was mine.

Will those posters who spout such bile and anger, calm down and check the facts: we are a club in a crisis. If you deny that, then there is little hope of you accepting anything other people may say on the site.

This is not my first time in saying this and it won't be the last: we are entitled to bitch, moan and complain about LFC and the way it is run and the team.
I pay for a season ticket.
I joined the Supporters Club.
I went to all but two home and away games last season.
I have been a season ticket holder for 32 years.
I travel across mainland Europe to watch the team.
I AM THEREFORE ENTITLED TO MY SAY AND THAT IS WE ARE AN AVERAGE CLUB, PLAYING POORLY AND IN A REAL CRISIS ON AND OFF THE FIELD!

Stop burying your head in the sand on some of these issues and stop berating anyone who doesn't agree with you.

Complaining does not make me a lesser supporter.
Making my points and bitching does not make me wrong, nor does it suggest I do not 'get behind the boys!"

The pointless and inane postings saying "stop complaining, " achieve zero.
Complaining is a way of suggestion, a method of dissaproval and a means of outlining ideas.
If we hadn't bitched and moaned about the banks not opening on a Saturday, they would still be telling us to mind our own business and shutting up shop at 3.30!

You CAN complain and say you're in despair and still be a passionate and wildly enthusiastic fan.
Don't mix up your feelings with those of thers.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 10:44:55

There has been a lot of comments about Roys teams and they way we are playing this season so far and I know Roy said look at the league table after 10 games but Sunday against the manure is massive for Roy. If we could get a result there I feel it would get the vast majority of the fans on his side. So for tonights game I hope he plays a mixture of 1st teamers like poulsen, ngog, babel etc and put in some younger players like pacheco and kelly. Carling Cup, Europa League and FA Cup are all bonuses if we do well but the PL is THE PRIORITY. So Roy rest our "stars" get some decent training done before Sunday and lets batter the mancs! !

Red Dan

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 10:28:23

Another day has come and those two saps are still in charge of our club. . . . can they not feel the hatred towards them. . not sure how much more i can take of this takeover scenario. . . . i know almost every lfc fan is gutted about whats going on and there is nothing anyone of us can do. . . . if the boardroom could just let something filter out it would be some sort of relief for us fans

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 10:26:55

I am once again dissapointed with comments from Roy Hodgson regarding 'Does not know when the team will play well'. Even some fans are pulled in by this. Last night I was watching Koptalk on LFC channel and some fans were saying that against Birmingham RH had his hands tied in his selection. What a load of b* * * S.

1) You sign a player for 11mill and leave him on the bench because he played for Portugal midweek. What about Maxi he travelled over to Argentina. Plus we had an extra day to prepare.

2) Play 2 holding players. What did that do - nothing BC created a load of chances

3) Wiltshire has played great this season for Arsenal. He also plays centre mid alongside the U21 England captain Shelvey for England. Wiltshire gets a chance Shelvey is left kicking his heels for the rerserves

4) Would Wenger give players like Pacheco, Shelvey, Amoo, Kelly a chance yes he would

5) Would Ferguson, Ancelotti, Wenger, Redknapp, Mancini play Poulson & Lucas - no chance not good enough too slow do not add anything to the side

Just maybe RH its you that is not good enough to manage LFC. Its a shame King Kenny wanted the job as well.

Reina

mate what r u talkin about? id much rather a person like woy accepting the teams isn't playing well at the minute, than defending their shabby performances every game like rafa used to do, its a refreshing change! LUCAS? again i agree absoulte garbage but he's rafas signing an meireles needs time to settle and with cole suspended woy didn't have much choice to play him when he opted for 2 defensive midfielders, at man city away he chose an attacking line up and got slated for that. .the bloke can't win, everyone forgets it took fergie 10 years to put together a winning team an he was only a mark robins goal away from getting the sack, woy is dealing with all benitez;s rubbish so give him time! get off ur couch an get to the game an support the team, im far from happy but am still there giving full support week in week out

KOPITE CHRIS

 

 

16 Sep 2010 10:26:02

Roy said:
"We've played eight, won five, drawn two and lost one.

"I don't think that's a bad start to the season by any stretch of the imagination. It is a new team and it has been a tough start to the season."

This is a valid point, but we havent played well in any of the games! Altho they do say that champions grind out results even when they are playing bad!

Big_Welsh_Scouser

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 10:10:25
It would be better for Liverpool fans if you just accept your only going to be a mid table side at the most.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 09:39:03
"The £8m for Rafael van der Vaart looks like deal of summer. Really lost out."

Boo hoo! our new boy from portugal has only played fifteen minutes and you'd prefer someone else who has only played twice for spurs (in games they have failed to win I might add) - you've got the attention span of a flee.

Back in the day, a new signing wouldn't get near the team within a season - now they're written off as a bad player if they miss a shot during the warm-up of their first game.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 09:30:39
If some of the fans on here are anything to go by, a few years with no trophy might be a good thing - we might get rid of some of the spineless, voiceless, glory hunters that just come to anfield and sit on their arses moaning.

Seperates the wheat from the chaff - just do one if three years is the limit to your support. Ask any Evertonian about support through the glory-less days - and listen to the noise at Goodison compared with Anfield nowadays. No glory hunters there.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 09:08:45
"I feel that the formidable outfit we once were has been battered and beaten and left for dead."

That's right because it's over forever, we'll never win anything again, woe is me - there's teams out there (most of them in europe) who would give their arms for a trophy, any trophy, in the past thirty years let alone the numbers we have won in RECENT history. You sound like a spoiled kid. I'm starting to seriously re-consider the truth of the 'glory-hunters' tag we get thrown Everton fans.

Jesus, up until ten years ago, had chelsea won anything, United went the whole of the 70's & 80's with nothing other than the odd FA Cup - i'm sure if they had forums then they would have been full of no- balls fans like yourself. Get a grip - three years with no trophy, in the scheme of things it's not that long a wait, especially considering we had a pop at a Champions league FINAL in that time. Real Madrid were nothing in the 80's, Barcelona too - other great teams have had low periods. Considering our 'low' period included a Champions League victory, we've not done bad. .

The club is not built on sand, it won't disapear down the drain because of three years with no trophy and two americans that won't be here in a couple of months/ years - we were formed in 1892 for Godsake. In ten years time this negativity will be a distant memory. If we have a bit of faith & courage, that is.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 09:06:36

I am once again dissapointed with comments from Roy Hodgson regarding 'Does not know when the team will play well'. Even some fans are pulled in by this. Last night I was watching Koptalk on LFC channel and some fans were saying that against Birmingham RH had his hands tied in his selection. What a load of b* * * S.

1) You sign a player for 11mill and leave him on the bench because he played for Portugal midweek. What about Maxi he travelled over to Argentina. Plus we had an extra day to prepare.

2) Play 2 holding players. What did that do - nothing BC created a load of chances

3) Wiltshire has played great this season for Arsenal. He also plays centre mid alongside the U21 England captain Shelvey for England. Wiltshire gets a chance Shelvey is left kicking his heels for the rerserves

4) Would Wenger give players like Pacheco, Shelvey, Amoo, Kelly a chance yes he would

5) Would Ferguson, Ancelotti, Wenger, Redknapp, Mancini play Poulson & Lucas - no chance not good enough too slow do not add anything to the side

Just maybe RH its you that is not good enough to manage LFC. Its a shame King Kenny wanted the job as well.

Reina

Kelly Carragher Agger Konchesky
Johnson Gerrard Shelvey Cole
Meirless
Torres

Dont mention this does not provide protection to the back four. Were not getting any NOW

 

 

16 Sep 2010 08:44:10
Just want to say the following:

I could not give a flying crap about who owns us, who manages us, who plays for us. .

All I want is to win, to win anything will make me happy. I will support LFC till the day I die, hell I have a 3 year old kid who has already been indoctrinated the little boy sings JUSTICE FOR THE 96 whilst playing outside, walking in the mall or just about whenever he feels like it. He practically lives in his LFC kit as he firmly believes it makes him run fast and kick a ball harder.

Whenever a game is on and a team plays in red, then he screams "LIVERPOOL, THEY RUN FAST" and the team not wearing red he refers to as naughty guys.

The kid sits at the dinner table and eats all his food, my Mum reckons to him that he is a good Muslim boy. He starts crying and says I'm not, I AM A LIVERPOOL BOY! !

Back to the point I wanted to make – STOP MOANING LIKE A BUNCH OF B*TCHES AND BE PROUD, BECAUSE LFC IS SIMPLY F*&KING GREAT.

*LFC Cape Town*

 

 

16 Sep 2010 08:40:28

* SELL NOW OR CARRY ON REGARDLESS . . *

Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard and the game against Manchester United on Sunday.
Three things that seem to obsess us and highlight what is wrong with our collective psyche and how things are slipping away from reality.

We are obsessed with the start to the season and how our season will be over before it even starts. "If we lose to Man U our season will be over!" I read. Sad, but true in many ways; we are already points behind the leaders and as has been endless suggested on here for the past few weeks - we have to come to terms with our new status as an average team with a massive history.

I would suggest a radical way of dealing with this present turmoil. It won't please the purists, nor the diehards who see everything as reasonably rosy, about to get better or suggest we should keep the faith. Truth is, we are in a decline and refuse in the main to recognise it.

We should sell Torres - no explanation needed apart from his injuries (hamstring); his frustration at the way he has been let down by the club and our ability to still make, maybe £40 million on him.
Steven Gerrard - sell him if Real or Inter come calling.
Nobody lasts forever and at 30 his days are numbered. We could keep him and bleat on about the heart and soul of the club, but ask would Ferguson or Wenger persist in that way? I'm not saying it is the ideal way to go, but it is a real option.
Carragher - time to move on or onto the bench. Can't believe Agger is not playing and with Ayala, Skrtel and Wilson available, we should make the change.

You will see that I am trying to move the squad into a younger mode.
We will not win the Premier League this year.
We may reach the FA Cup final, the League Cup Final or even the Europa League Final - but most fans I talk to only regard the PL as important and naturally, the Champions League.

To be in a position to get back to a reasonable chance of winning those, we must strip away the deadwood (as Roy Hodgson has pointed out) and build for the future. You can't (in my view) do a half and half job, You need to make strong decisions to almost write off a season to rebuild.

Yes, you can do it and many clubs do that. But we are mired in mediocrity and as despondent at the start of this season as we have been for seven of the past nine seasons. We are always just 'one step away' from being back 'to where we belong' and we never get there!

Yes, slag me off for wanting Torres out. Roast me for my suggestion we lose an icon in Steven Gerrard and batter me verbally for thinking about ditching Carragher. But don't be blind to our failings and Old Father Time.

Shelvey, Pachecho, Wilson, Amoo, Ince, Eccleston, Agger, Ngog . . . . these players are just too promising in the modern game and the way it works, to allow them to drift around the edges of the first team and reserves. If we have little to hope for in terms of the League and are not that fussed with either of the domestic cups, then why do we not use Amoo, Pachecho, Wilson and Shelvey on a consistent, a regular basis? Why did we pay big money for Wilson and harass Charlton into selling Shelvey if we are only leaving them in the reserves or on the bench? Long, long, long gone are the days when we bought a player or two, like Paul Walsh, and kept them on the bench for game after game. They probably thought they were lucky to play when the were told to get on. Today, young players around the 20 year old mark insist on playing and can move for big money to make that come true.

Chris Mavinga - good enough to captain France's U19 to a European title; good enough to earn rave reviews and admiration from Houllier and Wenger. Average enough in our eyes to be in the reserves and not even train at Melwood! Sell him!
Get rid of him if that's what we think of him.
Is he worse than Aurelio, Kyriagos, Skrtel on a bad day?
Too young? - Hernandez, Wilshire, Rooney, Clichy and a dozen other his age are regulars in the PL. What's so special about our players - save for two or three - that makes us think these younger ones are not good enough to play?

If we are challenging for the PL title - use the current squad.
We are not - so as the F1 teams do in odd seasons - start the development of the next challengers now.

It's not what most people want to hear.
It's not an instant solution, but then , what is in a game where money has so skewed the real worth of the game that we only think in terms of cash? Some will say it's easy to do with youth teams and non-league clubs, but what do we think we will achieve with the current crop?

Mancini is moaning this morning that he is short of strikers. He has spent £136 million so far!
We do not and will not, have that sort of money even with new owners. What we do have is a collection of rare, once in a five year span, potentially outstanding young players. My fear is that we will throw them away, cast them into despair and sell them to rivals, watch them get fed up and want to leave if we persist with our delusion that a slow process will work for the players, the club, the fans - and most importantly, the next generation of Liverpool stars.

Steven Parker
London

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 08:36:47

It's time to re-introduce terraces on to the Kop.
How many people died on the Kop because of the terrace? It was the South Yorkshire Police disorganisation and the cages that led to the tragedy at Hillsborough. With crowd trouble extinct and management of crowds sterilising the atmosphere, unless we're playing the Manc's or Everton, it's little short of embarrassing at most home games. If/ When we get the new stadium built I don't see why, with proper organisation, we couldn't have a terraced Kop. The Kop is full of old dears taking the grand kids out for a birthday treat etc. That's what the Paddock was for!
I'd like to see a vote on here to see who would be for/ against it.
15 Sep 2010 22:57:34
Now is a time for the crowd to be loud - I watched a bit of film from one of our games in the 80's the other week. An average game, savage noise - what an effect that would have now. {ed's note - I am sorry but it is nothing to do with standing that makes a crowd loud as such, it was only about letting people be close to their friends. Nowadays people are split up by the seat allocated being miles away from those they would otherwise stand next to and sing along with. The simplest way to solve it would be to not give people specific seats but a seat in a particular block and allow people to move around to fit their friends next to them. There is no need to bring back terracing in my opinion, and I really don't understand the nostalgia about it, apart from the deaths at Hillsborough and Ibrox, which were at least partly the fault of standing, there is also the fact it was rubbish. Your view was obscured, unless you were tall, you couldn't get out to use the toilet or get a drink or food, you could guarantee the bloke next to you stank of stale sweat and was pressed against you. If trouble breaks out (which regardless of your talk about it being extinct it does still happen on a regular basis, it is just easier to deal with through seats than terraces) you end up stuck in the middle of it.}

 

 

16 Sep 2010 08:08:24

Comeon. . can't wait for takeover complete or else this press won't stop talk nonsence bout Liverpool. although we get 1 point from Birghmham match paper never stop condemning our prefomance. . when MU got same 1 point from Everton game. everthing seem quite front to back page. Roy really need time to find new formula to perform. to be honest i'm impressed the way Mirelss playing other day. and for sure upset seeing Lucas in 1st 11. Anyhow lets wait and see wht this 2 bladdy Yanks going to mess up next. YNWA

 

 

16 Sep 2010 04:57:37

I am an avid reader of the rumour and banter sections but never posted. Living in Australia have only ever watched the mighty Liverpool on TV but am very excited as i will be leaving these shores in 4 days to visit the UK and have booked tickets to the Blackpool game at Anfield. I know it is only Blackpool but to watch a game live at Anfield will be a dream come true. can not wait. So if you hear two aussie accents in the croud it will be us. Hope to catch up with some of you before, at and after the game.

With a bit of luck will aslo be in Liverpool when our future gets sorted and the scum yanks are finally disposed of.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 04:39:36

There is a disease at Liverpool that is pervading the whole team. There is no confidence or beleif in superiority that we used to have. The players are scared and this will be translated into results. Look at Arsenal tonight - 6-0 against a weak team. We will not win by those margins this year because we are scared of failure. Liverpool should be fired-up by lesser sides, not scared to lose.

I feel that the formidable outfit we once were has been battered and beaten and left for dead. Liverpool is now a team struggling to become even a going concern. The dreadful sale to Stadtler and Waldorf has finished us. Goodbye history, hello despair. This Is Anfield? - This Is Nothing. Years of building a fortress to simply open the doors to anybody to feast on our open wounds.

Goodbye. And good luck.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Go and support Arsenal then you doom merchant - at least then we won't have to read your drivel on here - LIVERPRES

 

 

16 Sep 2010 04:14:09

Hopeful squad tomorrow

- - - - - - - - - - - -jones- - - - - - - - - - - - -
kelly- - - carragher- - - - - wilson- - - - konchesky
- - - - - - meireles- - - - -poulsen- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - cole- - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - -pacheco- - - - n'gog- - - - - - - babel- - -

Ed, what would you prefer? {ed's note - I would be happy with that, though I am not sure Ngog is fit yet is he?}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 02:48:58

There is a disease at Liverpool that is pervading the whole team. There is no confidence or beleif in superiority that we used to have. The players are scared and this will be translated into results. Look at Arsenal tonight - 6-0 against a weak team. We will not win by those margins this year because we are scared of failure. Liverpool should be fired-up by lesser sides, not scared to lose.

I feel that the formidable outfit we once were has been battered and beaten and left for dead. Liverpool is now a team struggling to become even a going concern. The dreadful sale to Stadtler and Waldorf has finished us. Goodbye history, hello despair. This Is Anfield? - This Is Nothing. Years of building a fortress to simply open the doors to anybody to feast on our open wounds.

Goodbye. And good luck.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 02:12:38

Bastian Schweinsteiger

we would be back in business with that level of quality in midfield.


True true if he could be snapped up, wishful thinking probably!?

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 02:03:43
The £8m for Rafael van der Vaart looks like deal of summer. Really lost out .

the only person capable of replacing a player like Xabi Alonso or Mascherano would be someone like Bastian Schweinsteiger

we would be back in business with that level of quality in midfield.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:48:56

{ed's note - I feel so much better knowing I am not the only nutjob!}

Safe to say there are probably thousands more amongst us poor suffering crazies ha!
Right i'm off to bed to keep my Mrs happy so goodnight Ed and all the other Liverpool nuts out there. Great site Ed, Keep up the good work mate!
Only discovered it recently but top notch stuff.
If i have one thing i could have added though its that people had Usernames so could see who is saying what.
Will this site be added to Fac* ook sometime do you think also?
Cheers,
Kev {ed's note - football-rumours already has an FB page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/football-rumours/127415697293642?v=wall&ref=sgm) I just haven't had time to do anything to it yet. The usernames thing is a difficult one, a lot of people prefer to remain completely anonymous. But it is easy enough, for those that want to, to simply put a signature on the end of their posts. If you leave something to identify you in the email section of the form, then it gives us editors a way of identifying you in the event of someone trying to be funny and using your name.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:35:01

{ed's note - I am very OCD about even watching us on the TV. The worst I got was one year under Roy Evans and I spilt some gravy on my shirt having lunch at my then girlfriend's parents. We won the game and I wouldn't let her wash the shirt because the gravy stain was 'lucky'. We went on an unbeaten run and ran away with the league, that is until she couldn't stand it any longer and washed the shirt, we ended up 4th if memory serves me correctly, I still haven't forgiven her now.}


ha ! As long as it was just "gravy" you spilled ha !
Or her parents will never have forgiven you :)
Very good. Ya gotta love the OCD - i have to have my TV remote right in the middle of the coffee table facing the TV & the TV volume set to 40. There was much more OCD back in the 90's for me but i've been making steady progress & improvement ha !
If i shouted "Come on Liverpool" i had to repeat it 9 more times in my head to make ten times.
Jesus this feels like therapy :)
Hi, My name is Kevin & I'm a freak ha ! {ed's note - I feel so much better knowing I am not the only nutjob!}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:25:12

Ive never been to a match but would love to, altho im not sure it would be wise especially in the kop end.

Id spend 90 mins crying with pride at finally standing in the kop (shankly's kop).

you ever stood in the kop/ did you cry/ nearly cry lol {ed's note - I have only been the Kop a couple of times, purely because I have a terrible memory and can't remember the lyrics to the songs. There is only one song I have ever managed to get all the words right in my head to, I just think the Kop should be for those who are going to sing along. In my opinion if you can't or won't then you shouldn't be there. I only stood there for early round cup games when the stadium was nearly empty, but I am glad I got the chance to do so.}


I'll never forget walking into the stadium for the first time. It was vs Everton at Anfield Road end directly over the away fans.
When i walked up the back stairs out towards the seats all i saw was The Kop in front of me 150 yards away, the hairs stood up on the back of my neck!
Very surreal!
I didn't want to leave after it finished & we won 3 - 1 so it was amazing. Like walking into your TV.
Waited at players car park after & only one came to the gate to talk to us. Momo Sissoko
Met all the bloody Everton players though damn it!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:19:31
Walk on. . (walk on)
Walk on. . (walk on)
With hope (with hope)
In your heart. .
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone.
Alone. .

We'll play with pride against man-utd, Evans is liability for man-u at the moment, we may get some joy.

it was Manu 2-1 last season, Manu 1-4 Liverpool season before because we targeted Vidic for the whole game, he got caught out for pace. nile - nile, but i think Utd are weaker at the back this season and have been leaking goals.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:15:08
{ed's note - Hazard?}

Thats the little so & so - cheers :)
Wouldn't have slept for ages trying to remember that

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:13:28

That leaves Liverpool and Man City. I can't see him going anywhere else, but man City will prob be his first choice if they don't get any success in the next couple of years.


As long as its not the other half of Manc i'll get over it. As i said earlier though - it is meant to be true he was a Liverpool fan back in the day.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:12:32
{ed's note - believe me, if I am a jinx I promise I will throw United all my support!}

Then please Ed predict manure will beat us so badly that liverpool will fold lol, Just do for LFC sake, be a hero Ed lol {ed's note - but what happens if they do beat us because I predicted they would? Now you see why I refuse to predict the game!}

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:10:28

{ed's note - I really daren't predict on this one, I am obsessively superstitious when it comes to football. I used to have to do exactly the same things everytime I went to the game, even down to what I bought at the ground. Always had to buy a coffee and a pack of wine gums from the nearest kiosk to my seat and the bloke who always sat next to me, Pete, ate all the black ones lol. Every time there were no black wine gums or I got anything else out of my routine wrong we lost.}

Brilliant, i love these sort of stories, not about us losing of course :)
So we can all blame you so Ed for our defeats.
It was never Rafa or Lucas' fault - it was you the whole time ha !
Touch of OCD me thinks :)
Or should that be CDO to have it in the correct order for you ha ! Good story though - Love it! {ed's note - I am very OCD about even watching us on the TV. The worst I got was one year under Roy Evans and I spilt some gravy on my shirt having lunch at my then girlfriend's parents. We won the game and I wouldn't let her wash the shirt because the gravy stain was 'lucky'. We went on an unbeaten run and ran away with the league, that is until she couldn't stand it any longer and washed the shirt, we ended up 4th if memory serves me correctly, I still haven't forgiven her now.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:05:54

16 Sep 2010 00:45:10
RE:Liverpool Transfers

RBK - i always thought we needed a holding-RBK like Arabola, would help carragher out alot and let G-Johnson play in Midfield.

STK- Strong Striker

Winger- Tricky winger or even two wingers, we have no one that can play the wings and Roy Hodgson likes his 4-4-2


For what its worth mate, i think a striker maybe 2 is top priority.
If we don't score we don't win.
But we also need creators like a pacy winger.
Still haven't replaced Sami either which coincided with last season perhaps?!
I'd break the bank (once taken over) for Per Mertesacker, Augero, Bojan & maybe Turan (but haven't seen him play yet) or the boy at Lille young Belgian lad (Help me out here someone).
Sell Poulson, Lucas & bring in Gourcuff perhaps {ed's note - Hazard?}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 01:04:37
Ed your a JINX lol, please stop supporting us, manure need fans support them lol {ed's note - believe me, if I am a jinx I promise I will throw United all my support!}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:59:43
2000 Benfica -1 season
2001–2002 União de Leiria-1season
2002–2004 FC Porto -2seasons
2004–2007 Chelsea-3seasons
2008–2010 Internazionale-1season
2010– Real Madrid - at real madrid he wants win Liga + champion league.

José Mourinho put out a statement when he left england saying he wanted to win the league + champions league in Italy, Spain and England. The three greatest leagues in the world. That has been his driving force professionally.

Once he lifts champions league and Liga with Real-Madrid, he will back to England to finish his trilogy.

I don't think he would ever go back to Chelsea, Arsenal is so well managed. Man-Utd have already won the league + champions League so many times if wouldn't fit his Trilogy quest

That leaves Liverpool and Man City. I can't see him going anywhere else, but man City will prob be his first choice if they don't get any success in the next couple of years.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:59:34
Ive never been to a match but would love to, altho im not sure it would be wise especially in the kop end.

Id spend 90 mins crying with pride at finally standing in the kop (shankly's kop).

you ever stood in the kop/ did you cry/ nearly cry lol {ed's note - I have only been the Kop a couple of times, purely because I have a terrible memory and can't remember the lyrics to the songs. There is only one song I have ever managed to get all the words right in my head to, I just think the Kop should be for those who are going to sing along. In my opinion if you can't or won't then you shouldn't be there. I only stood there for early round cup games when the stadium was nearly empty, but I am glad I got the chance to do so.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:56:44

{ed's note - you may be right, I just don't feel Mourinho is the type of manager to do that.}

Fair enough Ed.
But i can dream :)
Any prediction for Manure on Sunday?
I'd take the draw right now if offered especially after last night.
If we win (big IF) Fergie is going to be under immense pressure.
This is very likely his last or second last hoorah.
Sympathy for ya with the American Sports stuff by the way. Blah! {ed's note - I really daren't predict on this one, I am obsessively superstitious when it comes to football. I used to have to do exactly the same things everytime I went to the game, even down to what I bought at the ground. Always had to buy a coffee and a pack of wine gums from the nearest kiosk to my seat and the bloke who always sat next to me, Pete, ate all the black ones lol. Every time there were no black wine gums or I got anything else out of my routine wrong we lost.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:51:00

{ed's note - I will support the club no matter who is in charge, how much or how little we win or how we win or don't win. But I really hope we play decent football for a change, the kind of footie that Rafa's Valencia team came to Anfield and played.}I know what you mean but in this day and age with so much at stake playing well and not winning will never be tollerated, we need to win ugly for now if needs be. Then we can take more risks once we get better players if ever. Please god that will be soon

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:50:23
Im up all night too, im on night duty with the kids.

are you going to the game against scum, i just hope we don't embarass are selves and ill be happy just now.

i predict 3-1 to the scum (i hate myself for saying it).

Any hopes/ predictions yourself. {ed's note - no mate, I started the site because I was no longer able to get to the games, couldn't bear to not be involved somehow. I just hope we play better and the players gain some confidence, it is sorely lacking at the moment. I am too superstitious to predict this result.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:45:10
RE:Liverpool Transfers

RBK - i always thought we needed a holding-RBK like Arabola, would help carragher out alot and let G-Johnson play in Midfield.

STK- Strong Striker

Winger- Tricky winger or even two wingers, we have no one that can play the wings and Roy Hodgson likes his 4-4-2

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:44:31

{ed's note - Chelsea are better because Ancelotti has brought stability, Roman's millions bought great players and Jose coached them well. But they are a much better side now without him, and they are even worth watching at last.}


They are more entertaining yes but Ancelotti inherited nearly all his squad from Mourinho's time.
He has added Yossi & Zhirkov but not much else really.
Did Mourinho not stabilise Inter & Porto?
If he came to us & won us trophies i don't think hed ever leave.
Maybe its just me but i know if i was him id know Liverpool is the pinnacle of football what with our amazing fans & history.
It truely is something special.
I am from another country & it was the history that made me become a fan. The scouse humour & fans also swung me. I'd live in Liverpool if i could. But as i said maybe its just me in my Liverpool bubble?! {ed's note - you may be right, I just don't feel Mourinho is the type of manager to do that.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:43:09
Ed isn't it WAY past your bed time pal, You must be knackered lol {ed's note - my main job involves American-sports based sites, they are so far behind I often end up till all hours editing those sites. Thankfully I have never commented on them as I haven't a clue about any of the sports and I would be stuck if they all asked me questions like on here!}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:40:44
{ed's note - I would be happy to give the youngsters a chance to learn from experience rather than watching someone else blocking their path into the first team until they get fed up and leave like all the rest. We have Kelly, who is an excellent right back, Mavinga and Robinson for left back (Mavinga and Kelly are also good for CB too). RW there is Amoo and Silva, LW there is Sterling and Ince, plus we have Pacheco who can play either wing. What is wrong with Shelvey, Coady, Suso, Ngoo, Wisdom etc etc making odd appearances to cover injuries or just come on late as subs? We don't need to buy much other than a target man in my opinion, someone to play alongside Torres or play on his own up front during Torres' inevitable injuries.}

of course i agree ed but what about manure or chelsea what would be the point of throwing these young lads in only to get hammered and lose all confidence, against mid - lower teams defo, but agianst the major teams we need bit more quality. {ed's note - you learn more from a defeat than you do a victory. If a young player is so mentally fragile that he can't recover from a setback in his career like that, then he will never make it anyway. But playing them while young not just improves them as players but also increases their value if they are found wanting.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:34:11
RE: Theatre of nightmares

Joe Cole should be back for this one. P Konchesky has Hamstring, F Aurelio Achilles Tendinopathy.

So Kelly may start. We should play the same formation that we played against Arsenal. Have Gerrard Deep playing balls.

It should be good, hope Joe Cole is ready to get some goals.

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:32:58

{ed's note - I have seen enough boring football win us nothing, good football won us 18 titles and 4 European Cups. I don't see why people suddenly think there has to be a choice between the two.}


I hear ya but would you accept a few more titles (league) with slightly less attractive football?
We're hardly setting the world alight right now.
One proven forward in our squad - 2 goals in 4 league games. Not good! {ed's note - I will support the club no matter who is in charge, how much or how little we win or how we win or don't win. But I really hope we play decent football for a change, the kind of footie that Rafa's Valencia team came to Anfield and played.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:31:00
Ed im sure your sick of people constantly asking your opinions ALL the time but

including our 1st team & reserve team (injury free) how many players do you think we need to buy, Even for our starting 11, y personal opinion is for example against manure,

Reina, Carra, Agger, Gerrard, J.Cole, Torres, Raul. M

Are the only ones im REALLY confident can turn them over so i say

RB - LB - RW - LW.

At least 4 top class players so we can have our youngster learn from quality. {ed's note - I would be happy to give the youngsters a chance to learn from experience rather than watching someone else blocking their path into the first team until they get fed up and leave like all the rest. We have Kelly, who is an excellent right back, Mavinga and Robinson for left back (Mavinga and Kelly are also good for CB too). RW there is Amoo and Silva, LW there is Sterling and Ince, plus we have Pacheco who can play either wing. What is wrong with Shelvey, Coady, Suso, Ngoo, Wisdom etc etc making odd appearances to cover injuries or just come on late as subs? We don't need to buy much other than a target man in my opinion, someone to play alongside Torres or play on his own up front during Torres' inevitable injuries.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:28:49

RE: The fact remains mourinho is a winner,

Mainly defensive in style of play like benitez, but he knows when to mix it up to get the win.

He knows how to win the premiership and the fans want the title.

He great with the media, has a winner mentality and that is what Liverpool need. Gerrard and Torres need him.

If we Oil Money (sugra daddy) like man-city, then why not go out and buy the best players in the world.

If im spending 200million plus on players. It would make sense to get in a man like Mourinho to lead them.

Liverpool fc have the world reputation, we just need "big money + mourinho" and we will be the biggest club in the world.I fully 100% agree.
Why not Jose?
We would go well together.
Best manager, best fans, best players (with the 200m investment) = best club.
But i fear if we don't snap him up in the next 2 years he will go the Mancs - Fergie looks exhausted.
I give him 2 years more tops

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:24:37

If you're goin to that Theatre of nightmares on Sunday please scream your heads off for the boys cause they're going to need your support.
Feel sorry for Roy. Toughest start to any season i can remember bar none & i'm a fan since 1988.
Real were pretty good tonight Ed by the way,
Not great but not overly boring either.
Id watch boring football all day for you if it meant winning #19 come May let me tell you! {ed's note - I have seen enough boring football win us nothing, good football won us 18 titles and 4 European Cups. I don't see why people suddenly think there has to be a choice between the two.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:23:10
RE: The fact remains mourinho is a winner,

Mainly defensive in style of play like benitez, but he knows when to mix it up to get the win.

He knows how to win the premiership and the fans want the title.

He great with the media, has a winner mentality and that is what Liverpool need. Gerrard and Torres need him.

If we Oil Money (sugra daddy) like man-city, then why not go out and buy the best players in the world.

If im spending 200million plus on players. It would make sense to get in a man like Mourinho to lead them.

Liverpool fc have the world reputation, we just need "big money + mourinho" and we will be the biggest club in the world.

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:19:02
{ed's note - I don't know about any one else but I don't want Jose.}


Why so may i ask Ed?
If he brought success, great players & stability to the club why not?
Surely that would be worth any gripe you may have with the man?
I know he said some stuff a few years back about the club etc but that was all mind games.
Surely you can see that?

What if Roy brought good players, Success, And stability to the club.

Surely that would be better/ cheaper for the club.


1- Who says he wants to manage us
2- Who says we want him
3- He dosn't stay anywhere for long, (he likes to conquor a country then leave a success)
4- He plays negative football, (we have been begging for attacking football)
5- He likes to spend ALOT

If anything id rather Roy built himself a legacy at Liverpool, Than Jose bring his legacy to liverpool.

Do you agree Ed. {ed's note - that is how I see it, I want to see us go out and beat the opposition not grind them down.}

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:18:36

{ed's note - because he doesn't bring anything like stability and the football his teams play make Rangers look exciting.}

Ah Ed come on, Chelsea were a lot better under him than since he left.
Porto the same.
Only a matter of time before Rafa undoes Mourinho's work at Inter.
Both he & Rafa in my opinion made the wrong moves this summer.
Mourinho in my opinion should have held tight for us with new owners.
Rafa should have gone to maybe Juve as seen as there'd be no pressure like the pressure at Inter to do anywhere as well as last season.
Rafa's p45 will be in his letter box again by next summer if not before unless Morrati is a forgiving man {ed's note - Chelsea are better because Ancelotti has brought stability, Roman's millions bought great players and Jose coached them well. But they are a much better side now without him, and they are even worth watching at last.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:12:53

I have Ole Gunnar Solskjær could make for an excellent manager. His ability to read the game and see weaknesses in the other team.

He could be given a chance to manager a football-club. I think he will do very well


Could be right mate but not sure he has the ruthless streak yet?
Probably has, but don't want him coming here.
He'd probably have Ratboy Nev as his assistant?!

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:06:15

{ed's note - I don't know about any one else but I don't want Jose.}


Why so may i ask Ed?
If he brought success, great players & stability to the club why not?
Surely that would be worth any gripe you may have with the man?
I know he said some stuff a few years back about the club etc but that was all mind games.
Surely you can see that?
Unless i missed something?! {ed's note - because he doesn't bring anything like stability and the football his teams play make Rangers look exciting.}

 

 

 

 

16 Sep 2010 00:01:07
RE:Ole Gunnar Solskjær

I have Ole Gunnar Solskjær could make for an excellent manager. His ability to read the game and see weaknesses in the other team.

He could be given a chance to manager a football-club. I think he will do very well

 

 

 

 

15 Sep 2010 23:05:11

Mourinho is sending out all the signals he'd like to manage Liverpool.
Just see his interview with SPN tonight.
If only the new owner (whoever that may be) sees it & makes him #1 on his list if Roy doesn't work out which i think he (Roy) won't simply because he's changed nothing to Rafa bar the disasterous zonal marking.
Do you think he'd come or be wanted Ed? {ed's note - I don't know about any one else but I don't want Jose.}

 

 

15 Sep 2010 23:00:48

"It does my head in when I come on here to read some of your whinging negativity. We're a team in decline. F* k that. I'll put our Silver in the past ten years down against anyones. European cups, Uefa cups, FA & League Cups, European Super cups. .everything but the league. So what - it'll come.

Be f*cking proud for Godsake - have some faith & some balls."

I am proud but I don't wear Rose coloured specs. I can no longer live in past glory. If it was 10 years ago since we won the League then maybe but not 20 years mate. People keep saying our history, history, history. The way things are going we will be history with regards to the top 4 very soon. The last 2 managers were $hite in the transfer market. We spent loads of money over the last 10 years but on a lot of donkeys.

 

 

15 Sep 2010 22:57:34
Now is a time for the crowd to be loud - I watched a bit of film from one of our games in the 80's the other week. An average game, savage noise - what an effect that would have now.

Have you all got it in you to be that load again? Balls is right - noise is the one thing the fans can do. Why is not possible for us to make that noise again? Even the noise we made against chelsea in 2005 - but for every game. You each go to the games, why not make that noise again? just do it - it's simple.

You and your mates just shout & sing for 90 minutes - anyone can do that. .watch the team react to your support.

 

 

15 Sep 2010 22:56:58

15 Sep 2010 22:36:12
Sorry to say this but at the end of this season, Liverpool should look to cash in on Fernando torres.

I think the guy is class when he wants to be, But is more often than not lazy, And for the last 2 seasons seems to be either injured or carrying an injury.

I no some people will slate me for this but before you do bare in mind,

1- How often do you see torres name on the team sheet, Only to end the game with the pundits saying how he wasnt involved/ didn't look fit/ went missing ect.

2- All those who say, We need another striker to help torres coz he can't do it alone, Wasnt he alone in his first season, And played fantastic.

It seems to me he dosnt want to play for LFC anymore, It also seems he dosnt want to play in England anymore.

Welcome all opinions, Would like your's also Ed {ed's note - I would rather wait and see how the season goes before making any kind of decision.}On your second point,
Crouch was there for Torres' first season so when he wasn't in Crouch was.
Now we only have the light weight, unproven Ngog as back up. Thats not good enough i'm sorry!
But i agree we should cash in in summer '11 regardless of what happens. He'll be 27, not old but not getting any younger, we could buy 2 good players maybe 3 with the £40m we hopefully would get for him (maybe more / less depending on the season he has & depending on if Barca challenge City & Chelsea for his signature)

 

 

15 Sep 2010 22:55:02

Welcome all opinions, Would like your's also Ed {ed's note - I would rather wait and see how the season goes before making any kind of decision.}
Fair enough ed. but go back 3 weeks and would you if it was there now have took 70 mil for him?SMF {ed's note - yes, definitely and I still would if it was 70m on offer.}