Liverpool Banter Archive November 15 2016

15 Nov 2016 22:57:10
A question for Ed002, hope we've been well enough behaved for this one Ed! I'm just wondering what are the deciding factors in a club being able to spend top dollar in terms of transfer fees but limited in terms of wages?

I'll use West Ham as an example, in the summer they bid a not insignificant amount for Lacazette but I remember you stating that they were banking on reasonable wage demands. Why was this the case? Why could they bid so much for the player but not afford the wages?

Just interested Ed! Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - There is a need to balance expenditure and wages in terms of FFP. You can get away with expenditure with a high income but then you can still be constrained by wages under the FFP regulations. This is really not a matter for the LFC pages.}

16 Nov 2016 16:09:44
I know that Ed but I appreciate the response anyway! Put it down to naive curiosity.

15 Nov 2016 21:55:33
Itv's twitter stating lallana, will be out for a month, pointless friendlys .

15 Nov 2016 22:16:27
iTV know nothing about football.

wait for LFC medical staff to check.

English FA clowns are not fit to run a pub team.

I hate International football and international friendliest are an absolute waste of time unless only fring players are involved. There is no pint using top players who have a proper job coming up at the weekend.

15 Nov 2016 22:44:16
How would they know already? Normally you have to wait for a assessment/ scan before you find out the extent of these things.

16 Nov 2016 00:56:24
Theyre taking a stab at what they think the injury is. Reality is it could be less or longer, we won't find out till liverpool assess him.

15 Nov 2016 21:15:37
If lallanas injury is anything serious i propose an independence referendum for the merseyside area.

16 Nov 2016 13:21:29
Scexit?

16 Nov 2016 15:27:00
😄

Or Scouxit.

15 Nov 2016 20:32:34
Llalana straight down the tunnel after coming off injured, meaningless friendliest really do get on my t*ts!

15 Nov 2016 21:03:09
Yeah I know what you mean incredibly frustrating isn't it.

15 Nov 2016 21:18:57
Y is Henderson playing this rubbish friendlies.

15 Nov 2016 21:49:35
Every single international game worries me when our players are playing due to this. Let's hope it's nothing serious.

15 Nov 2016 22:38:08
Players need to play, 2 weeks off doesn't help anyone. Granted they don't need 90 minutes but our players playing in internationals is indirectly beneficial for the club. If players are getting recognised internationally it makes them a bit more settled at the club.
Basically, I don't like the international friendlies either but we need to accept them and move on.

15 Nov 2016 23:06:42
True Mr K, had he got injured in the 80th minute I'd be more frustrated too. It's just unfortunate as he was playing well. I'd like Grujic to get an opportunity now but we will see what Boss Klopp does he knows best.

15 Nov 2016 19:31:08
Ed001

Did you get a chance to compile that 10 game review or did I miss out on it as I have been up the walls recently with a full house restoration 😱 My Mrs has my pocket and arse broke never Mind my back 🤕.

{Ed001's Note - I did the Liverpool season review so far a while back and today put up a review of Klopp's time so far here: Klopp review

15 Nov 2016 20:54:33
Thanks for that Ed the Klopp review was a fantastic read.

{Ed001's Note - thank you.}

15 Nov 2016 21:52:19
It was a great read, looking forward to maybe another at the back end of the season when we're champions! lol nice one ed1 mate, was spot on every part.

{Ed001's Note - thanks mate, fingers crossed you get your wish when I do the season review.}

15 Nov 2016 22:58:15
Great read ed01. Brightened up my night. Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. Thankfully the international break is coming to an end.}

15 Nov 2016 19:20:43
Ed001

Can I ask if you know or have an opinion on this.

Since Klopp has arrived have you noticed an improvement in the youth system at Liverpool, IE in the way they train-play-attitude on the pitch etc.
And final question compared to previous managers let's say over the last 20 years within the club disregarding Dalgleish what has been done differently or has anything changed at all so far and is it a learning curve to adjust to the senior managers demands on what he expects to see coming through the system?

Finally how do you see our youngsters progressing under the current regime?

Is the future really as bright as we hope or is there better systems out there?

Cheers in advance mate 😊.

{Ed001's Note - well the youth system always looks to mirror the first team, so yes, they play much harder. Also the shrinking of numbers has helped massively, giving the players more of an incentive to perform or be cut.

It is difficult to say what has changed as it is too early for that mate sorry.

Again too early to talk of progression.

It always helps when the first team is stronger, as that attracts better players into the youth team, if they see chances to get a game.}

15 Nov 2016 15:15:16
Hi eds,

Just seeing this rubbish about Sturridge going to West Ham or Stoke in January, with Mane missing up to a month over that period surely that would be ridiculous to let sturridge in the January window?

Your thoughts eds?

Many thanks

Henlow red.

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

15 Nov 2016 09:56:49
£28m for Sturridge according to the Mirror? Yeah and the rest.

Any hint of truth in him wanting away?

15 Nov 2016 11:02:32
I don't know what is going on in his mind. He needs regular games to make it to the national team ( Fortunate on his side all three strikers are playing awful ATM ) . At some point he will take some hard decisions.
Summer in my opinion.

15 Nov 2016 11:14:05
If coutinho leaves the club in the summer and sturridge stays fit this season I don't want him going anywhere. He's a great player and 30 plus goal scorer a season.

15 Nov 2016 12:16:02
30 goal a season?

You forget that he hasn't bagged any yet in PL
he will get his chance when he shows the right work ethic.

15 Nov 2016 14:44:38
There is this talk now about Sturridge because he played well in a poor England team against a poorer Scotland team.
Maybe he wants away to be first choice somewhere else but there aren't many big clubs left that will sign him where he will have a chance of champs league football
He should knuckle down and thank his blessings that LFC stuck by him.

15 Nov 2016 14:47:44
lol big al, though I love Sturridge 30 goals per season? he's far behind mate, maybe 15-20 At best. I don't want us to get rid, don't get me wrong I believe in time he could be a 30 + goal striker but how long does it take? Do we cash in or? If it was upto me he's be given another year or so but I can't see that happening. summer I reckon he's out.

15 Nov 2016 14:54:24
Supermane he hasn't started mate. He has the ability and composure. He's been fantastic when he's came on. Mane, coutinho and Firminho have been top class. It's hard for him but he has to keep working hard.

15 Nov 2016 15:18:23
Big Al, that Studge that could score 30 a season no longer exists (and has no record of ever doing that previously either) and is a thing of the past, IMO due to his style of play and his injuries. He never was that type of stiker because for him to be that type of striker, he would have to be a Suarez both in ability and fitness levels (as Suarez plays through pain and never missed a game via injury at LFC) to play every game, all the things he lacks. I like Studge and want him to stay but if he or his body (ravaged by injuries at 27) will not allow him to do that, hen he is free to leave. The way we play, we can even withstand Suarez`s absence because goals are coming from all over the shop. Only two of the starting 11 have not scored (Clyne and Karius) and Clyne will not be long before he scores so goals will never be the issue under Klopp`s Liverpool.

14 Nov 2016 23:43:01
Hi ED thank for the great work you both do .

ED02 I'm from London but now live in the US. I've been living in Atlanta GA love it. I do try come back to England ever year, Anyway ED01 did you do you do a match review for the watford game? also can I the link for the podcast.

{Ed001's Note - I never got to see the Watford game in full, so was unable to write one sorry.

Sharkopod 1

15 Nov 2016 07:45:34
Bravesun, do you watch the reds games at Meehans on Peachtree street? I fly in to Atlanta fairly regularly and there is a great atmosphere in there on a match day if you get the chance. YNWA.

15 Nov 2016 08:55:19
Thanks ED001 .

No Gmac1975 but thanks for the info and I will be attending .

ED01 is they any truth in Daniel Sturridge is set to leave Liverpool in January, ?

Thanks again for all the hard work .

{Ed001's Note - nothing has been agreed yet, no deal has been done, but there are a few clubs showing interest if he is available, such as West Ham United. Their issue is that they massively overspent in the summer, after having to be debt-free to get the Olympic Stadium. They have immediately placed debt on the club, following the move, and are paying over the odds in wages, plus have transfer fees to pay off. I am not sure how they could afford Sturridge's wages, even if we agreed a deal for them to loan him. It would place a major strain on their already strained finances.}

15 Nov 2016 10:13:55
Thanks ED let's hope we keep him fingers cross.

15 Nov 2016 11:15:32
I hope he stays. He's a great player. Really hope he gets back into the first team somehow.

15 Nov 2016 11:58:44
Hopefully he drops in to lead the line once Mane heads to the ACN with Firmino moving to a wider role. A run of a few games will be just what he needs to get his season started. He looked lethal in his cameo against Watford and also in some of his league cup matches earlier. We need to keep the lad, he's by far our best finisher.

15 Nov 2016 13:39:46
In all honesty, as soon as one of our front 3 drops out i'd get him straight in there, injuries don't make me forget how much of a brilliant player he can be.

15 Nov 2016 14:41:53
Agreed mate. Depending on how jaded the Brazilian boys are after their midweek game, there's a chance for some good minutes on Saturday.

15 Nov 2016 15:23:02
I hope Studge can take those chances because Klopp will not play players just because some people or said players whined not playing. He should do what is best for the teamd and as long as we are winning, I am okay with who doesn`t play.