Liverpool Banter Archive July 15 2012

 

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15 Jul 2012 22:34:43
With Modric Likely To Go To Real Madrid Would This Open The Door For A Alonso Return To Liverpool


Alonso is better than Modric, its not gonna happen


Apparently Alonso is entering the last year of his contract, and R.Madrid don't renew players aged 30+..

Stone YNWA.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:34:37
Liverpool are willing to discuss the prospect of Carroll going back to the Toon, but are only likely to do a business if it is a permanent deal AND if they can get Hatem Ben Arfa as part exchange! I've heard £12 million plus Ben Arfa...! Watch this space..!


Ben arfa laugh, LFC are officially mugs if this is true


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:32:45
Do you recon if we loan or sell Carroll we'll buy a striker other than maybe Dempsey?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:22:53
Hearing alot about Dempsey & Walcott at the moment.
Any truth to either of them?
Dempsey -11m
Walcott -9m

Personally would love to see both of them in a Reds shirt, eds can you clear anything up about either of them? Cheers.

LfcKid


Why would arsenal only sell walcott for 9 and fulham hold out for 11, they are both on one year left.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:22:03
Walcott and Dempsey both very close to signing. Bellamy to join cardiff. Carroll to stay for now to prove BR wrong and that he is the right man for the number 9 shirt at anfield.

Scottish Red


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:21:45
Macca, Do you know of any interest in Lewis Holtby or Julian Draxler as mentioned in the media?
Cheers
AK


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:19:38
Clint Dempsey is off to Liverpool for 11million. Bargain


No, Carroll is the bargain, Liverpool mugged over again


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:19:32
It really annoys me to read some of the posts on here. im starting to think that a lot of people on here actually have never played football or have never really watched games without having any footballing brain. it amazes me that so many people cant understand that carroll, whilst he might have potential, cannot fit into brendan rodgers style. he believes that in order to win games you must have a high possession. how you have high possession is accomplished by a number of things, for example pressing your opponents whilst defending, movement and lots of shorter passes. the longer the balls the more chance you have of losing it. whenever carroll comes onto the pitch the amount of long balls we play are ridiculous. carroll may have a lot of potential and i quite like the guy but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that he wont fit in the brendan rodgers mold. brendan rodgers will get the squad playing attractive football and he needs the right players with the right attributes to do so. unfortunately for carroll and all his lovers out there he is not the man for the job. i wish him all the best wherever he goes but he is not suited to the tactics liverpool have employed in the past and will again employ in the brendan rodgers regime. i suggest all of you who dont agree to have a long hard think about what brendan rodgers tactics are and truly ask yourself whether andy carroll can fit in.


Mario Gomez's role with the German National team. Big Andy could play in that type of role and would indeed fit into BR's system. He did use a target man of sorts at Swansea.

Coley


I'll tell you why Andy Carroll would fit in. Because he now has an excellent touch and in a front three would be the perfect spearhead for us. He would be very similar to Fernando Llorennte. I think he'd be perfect myself.
KiwiRed


I understand what you are saying but it is not Andy's fault that we played long balls up to him. He likes the ball to feet or whipped in from the wings to attack. Give him the ball to feet with his back to goal and he can hold it up as good as anybody bringing in the midfield or the other 2 strikers/wingers.

Give the guy a chance.

Gazza


Please for those who disagree please reply as i would like to hear your opinion.


Last season, Carroll played more passes than Danny Graham (0.35/min vs. 0.21/min).

And it's widely accepted that Carroll only got started in the final third of the season.

And people keep complimenting Danny Graham, saying how well he played.

Of course statistics are to be taken with a large pinch of salt, and opinions are entirely subjective.

But I resent the accusation that I don't understand what I'm watching. That's a very arrogant thing for you to say.

Professional footballers aren't robots, programmed to perform only one job.
Coached in the right manner most players are interchangeable and able to adapt the way they play (total football anyone?)

Carroll's touch is good. His movement is decent but there is definitely room for improvement, and his work rate is excellent.

His presence alone and the way he occupies defenders shouldn't be underestimated either.

I think it's obvious from what you said that we're going to disagree where Carroll is concerned but I think he's good enough to slightly alter his game.

It's probably all pointless anyway, as it looks like he's on his way. But I'd at least like BR to give him a decent chance to prove himself.

Joe


Excellent touch? comparing him to mario gomez. hmmm. fair enough everyone is entitled to their opinions.


I said his touch is good, not excellent. And I didn't compare him to Mario Gomez.

If you want to spark a healthy debate don't make things up.

You're right on the opinions part though.

Joe


Sorry, I thought you were replying directly to me but I didn't read the other posts properly

Joe


No problem, thanks for the apology. like you saw my comment wasn't directed to you but earlier on. thanks for the reply always interesting to see what people have to say. jm


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:18:38
If we let carrol go an signed demba ba and walcott as so many of you are saying... i would think that would be a good deal but i would much prefare adam.johnson to theo ooooshhh! :)

Macca shed some light if u can.cheers

woozlfc25


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:07:56
sly sports
With speculation over a possible move away from Arsenal Theo Walcott has been cut to evens to join Liverpool this summer.

r-r


Same as the last three transfer windows....?

Rob


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:07:15
If we sell Carroll, hopefully in excess of 15m, then let's go and get someone like Cavani or Jovetic. One of those two, plus Suarez, Borini & Dempsey, we would have great attacking options.

Lewis the Red


Mate if we sell Carroll we will be going for 2 players with the cash, both on half his wage. Both will be good young players. Get behind them. YNWA.... Gerry Marsdin.


Why not sell Spearing and get Messi while we're at it?


Get real. The club can't compete for these players without CL - nor does it have the finances to subsidise it. Which is exactly what Man City did.

Stone YNWA.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:05:55
Eds I have read it before and today it is in BBC that carroll take£80,000 per week salary ? is it true ? if yes then I must say kenny must be mad ?

red-rock {Ed002's Note - It is irrelevant.}


Most 35 million pound signings yould be on much more than that mate.
derryred


But is it true? irrelevant does not mean it is uninteresting!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:04:37
Let's sell Carroll and go get Cavani!!


Yh, and then ronaldo and messi!!
^ u clealy have no clue


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:03:29
if Caroll is to be sold for less say £17 mil, before you guys moan about the manager let me tell you something. it is not the managers fault that we over paid for him in the past. he can only sell him for the current valuation of the player. and this is not the forst time when a good player comes into a big team and sold after a season when the club realize that the player does not fit into their system.

Barcelona bought Zlatan Ibrahimović for 69 mil euros. in his first season he scored 21 and assisted 13 and yet he was loaned to Milan in the next season and eventually sold for 24 mil euros.

miccmak


So your comparing Carroll to Ibrahimovic? Are you mad?


On another note, let that be a lesson, that buying "superstars" for massive amounts of money is really no way forward!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:02:33
If the geordies want AC then they should pay the 35M they valued him at a year or so ago... I'm sure Mike ashley hasn't spent it all on Newky brown ale and has probably still got it stuffed down the back of his sofa ! Tobiwan... P.S. AC to stay I hope.. it doesn't make sense to get rid but hey thats why we all love this soap opera isn't it.?.. You just never know whats around the corner


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:01:12
Hi guys, can we please stop with all the doom and gloom over Carroll going. Yeah we wasted too much money but if he is not gettin played why keep him get as much as possible now for him and try to replace him with someone who fits the system that Rodgers likes to enforce. Gerrard is just back from a brill euros, Suarez is banging them in with Uruguay with roughly same system as brendan employs , Lucas will be back to shore up the midfield and if we got in someone like Dempsey I.e. goals from midfield and maybe a Ramirez type player so that the top 3 can change positions in the game and give defences nightmare. So where is all this negativity coming from? Calm down and relax we will be far better than last season and hopefully we can break into top 4. Thanks eds for all the hard work especially ed no2 as most editing is done by yourself. What are ye guys thoughts?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 22:01:04
Hi all,

I am not sure why some people are blaming our owners and wanting them to leave. If you guys actually use that brian you were given then you would realise that our owners fully backed Kenny Dalglish. If I remember correctly they gave him £20 Million on Downing, £35 Million on Andy Carroll and £20 million on Jordan Henderson in total is £75 million. That is a lot of money to spend on 3 players in one season. I don't think it was their fault that Damien Comolli and Kenny Dalglish identified these players and blew those amounts on them. The blame should fully land on those two and not our owners.

In regards to Andy Carroll I have always backed him because I can see potential and actually like the kid. The media and especially our fans have given him horrible treatment. Though many on here championed him towards the end of last season, which was nice to see. The problem is the way in which we are looking to play would he fit that system? he would have to play centre of the front three, a poacher player picking up the scraps but with positional awareness and technical ability, which Llorente plays well because he possess these qualities. This leads me to ask the question does AC possess these qualities and is he capable of playing in an interchangeable front 3? my answer would be no. It is a shame as I think he will go onto be a great player but in a system that is geared to his strengths, which is wide man delivering quality balls into him an area in which we let him down last season. What ever Rodgers decides and it is looking like he wants to move him on then I will back him, as he clearly knows are to deploy the pass and move system and what players he will need to have this system working effectively.


LFC4LIFE - ALONSO


Stop slating kenny, you will be thanking those investments in the future. hendo is only 22 and was in the england squad, whilst showing glimpses of improvement; he will fit BR's system well. Carroll and Downing we have overpayed for but targetmen like carroll don't peak until they are 25-26 and he has shown class at times. Downing isn't nearly as bad as people here make him our to be, he had a good start but then began to fade away. i back fsg fully as they clearly know what they are doing. Br is a great coach and i have a really good feeling about him, if he thinks carroll should go then that is best. i think we will sign a quality replacement if that is true.
derryred


No-one gave me a brian. Where do I get a brian?

cozinoz


Lfc4life-alonso you need to use your brain coz a lot of money came from sales rather then our so called owners our net spend was 30/40 million and the reason eds always say cavani or higuan etc etc are not possible coz our owners can't afford(wages) so the systeam(hiding) is buying younger/pontential players now let's be honest we are not everton,aston villa etc etc we need world class players to take us foward coz buying young/pontential is fine but not when team is doing bad or worse and teams above us are very,very strong


Lol maybe you could use your "Brian" when posting?


I was never actually given a Brian, but if I ever bump into anyone called Brian I will ask him..


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:58:50
Eds do you not think Rodgers will want to assess Carroll personally before discarding him. He could also prove to be a more direct approach in games against teams like stoke and I think it would help add an alternate dimension {Ed002's Note - I am sure he knows enough of Carroll.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:57:39
Newcastle have made a bid to sign Liverpool striker Andy Carroll on loan, with a view to a permanent move.
New Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers said he could loan Carroll out, suggesting the 23-year-old would not be part of his Anfield plans.
And Newcastle want to bring back a player they sold to the Reds for £35m in January 2011.


 

 

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15 Jul 2012 21:59:15
Hi eds. there is rumours on various sites that Liverpool still
Owe Newcastle 5mil of the andy carroll deal also
That there was a sell on Clause tied into the contract they did. Do you have any info on this. Hope he stays. Great holding striker and can certainly head the ball for both attack and defence from set plays.
Great job by the way {Ed002's Note - Nothing.}


We all wanted carroll to be the best for lfc but he is not so its not worth keeping some one just because he cost a lot of money may as well get rid asap and move on invest in some one else as he will not be in the team.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:57:10
More rumours starting to circulate about Walcott to LFC, does there seem to be much truth behind these?

Thanks

-Shar-


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:56:15
Theo Walcott keeps getting linked with us and have just cut him to evens to join!

Looks like we may actually have a player with pace on the wing...its been too long!

Canadian Red


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:54:56
are newcastle taking the p*ss ? they screwed us for 35 million and now have the brass neck looking for a loan deal, do one pardew


You mean the 35m deal where we actually made 15m?


They will come back and offer two players plus cash and the players did not cost them much money and even though the newcastle fans like the players they will be happy with the deal .


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:54:54
I've no doubt in my mind that if BR was to keep Andy and he then had a rather bad start to the season again, all the people who are suddenly moaning at BR and FSG for maybe allowing him to leave ,will then suddenly change minds and say "They should've sold him when they had the chance omg they're ruining our club i said this even though i blamed them for wanting him to leave"
just wait.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:54:49
Arnaldo Ferreira is repoting that Liverpool agree a £27million fee to sign PSV duo Strootman & Mertens. Both flying to England tomorrow for medicals e discuss personal terms. Anyone know if he is a reliable source? {Ed002's Note - It is Twitter so go figure.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:53:34
Hi Eds,

Just a concern rather than a rumour. We seem to be letting a few attacking players go; Kuyt, Maxi and possibly Bellamy and Carroll. In your opinion, will we be replacing each player we let go because my fear is that we could end up with a fairly decent first 11 with little in the way of back up if we are hit with injuries or suspensions. We had issues with squad depth last season with little in the way of game changing attacking options on the bench so I would hate to be in a similar position again in terms of our options on the bench, or potential lack of.

Cheers,
NB Red


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:53:51
the NUFC Andy Carroll loan/to buy bid has reportedly 'not been taken seriously' in the words of Ben Smith from the BBC.

I think we should squeeze the Geordie's for every penny they've got, the way the have conducted their business with us in the past has been nothing short of criminal and extortionate. Owners will want to recuperate as much as they can for Carroll and rightly so. It's a shame it hasn't worked out, but there comes a time when one must say things have gone as far as they can. Despite the fact he started showing signs of promise, the club seem ready to wash their hands of the big man


Whilst I found Llambias' attitude when discussing the matter most distasteful, Comolli's the one who rang him with £30m (way too much for Carroll) as a first offer. I'd hardly describe squeezing an extra £5m out of us when we were quite clearly already prepared to pay over the odds for him as an act of criminality.

- Something Red -


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:51:22
Fox sport saying the dempsey deal is nearly complete.

trebor


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:50:10
Ha... I'm watching a Brazilian game between Internacional and Santos. The referee has a spray can of white paint, which he sprays on the pitch to show where a free kick should be taken. What a great idea.
The game came on my laptop after the Spain - Greece under-19 final. Spain deservedly won 1-0, but the Greeks gave them a very good game. There are some good young players out there.
Funny that the Spanish keeper's first name is Kepa. ( the next Iker)

Northern Git


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:49:27
reports sugesting Liverpool agreed a £27million fee to sign PSV duo Strootman & Mertens {Ed002's Note - Have you signed up for the Ed002 Appreciation Society at: tinyurl.com/7fbgecd }


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:46:58
Even though disheartening at times, the past few years as a Liverpool supporter has been interesting to say the least!

JTR


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:44:59
i think us fans need to revoult and start to get br and fsg to start listening to us carrol needs to stay he is starting to be the player we thought this is shamefull borini in carroll out demsey in omg wat the fck this beloved club is in free fall and i no Macca says give them a chance to them br and fsg but this is getting like hicks and gillet this is a massive club because of us fans so how about starting to listen to us.

carrol is going to be a star but lets just let him be a star for someone else at half the cost we payed brilliant and will buy medocre playes and try and be like swansea br should never been apointed even swansea have a better manager now come wat has he even done sacked at watford sacked at reading did a good job at swansea after martinez set it up for him and i no everyone will say give him a chance but will see by jan same old same old and Macca u say fsg are willing to spend big and we won't buy old players with no resale dempsey br out fsg out in rafa we trust.

mike


Swansea under Martinez apparently couldn't defend very well and didn't press the ball the way they did under Rodgers, which has been a key part of their game since. Now I didn't watch them before this past season, so I don't know if that's actually true, but looking at Wigan, I could believe it.

- Something Red -


You revolt and i will fight you all the way, its simple, you either support the club or you dont, we are not in a postion of massive wealth, we are doing what we can with what we have got


In rafa we trust ? god help us ! has it ever occured to you that BR wants players he likes and could fit his system, eg: borini, a very good young player who is already in the full italy squad, who do you want ? no doubt somebody on £250m a week and a £50m price tag, in case you hadn't noticed fair play rules come into play soon and i for one am looking forward to the new season, people like you are doom and gloom mongers,


I don't know what makes people like you think that all Liverppol fans Rafa back. I don't want him anywhere near the club.

JRG


Right mate cos we're all successful business men who know what we're doing. why don't you just support the club and the people behind it. they've put lots of money into the club already and the club is still making a loss. i really want carroll to stay but i will support the manager and whatever he does if its for the good of the club. so fsg and brendan rodgers all the way.
huddz red


In Rafa we trust, give me a break he sold Alonso to make a point and bought Aquilani! He sold Arbeloa for £3M and spent £16M on Johnson, Arbeloa is now right back for Real and Spain. We're all scared for our club but please no more going back, it didn't work with KD it won't work with Rafa, he had a great team at Inter and did nothing.


What we all gonna do have a quick vote each Friday see who should be in the starting 11 on Saturday afternoon? Ive an even better idea lets give the manager a bit more time that 6 weeks now theres a brainwave.

Mike


Mark my words, Liverpool will regret it if they sell Carroll. If we loan him out we have definitely lost the plot. Apart from saving on wages, which are not massive, how do we benefit from such a loan?

Rodgers is small time. Like Hodgson, he has set ideas of how to play. With Hodgson, it was keep a rigid 4-4-2 shape and hope for a goal on the break or from a set piece. With Rodgers, it is keep possession until boredom sets in. The styles Hodgson and Rodgers play will keep average clubs safe in mid table but won't be good enough for a top team to challenge.

Kenny should have got one more season. Carroll must stay!

redmersey


The sky is falling in!

Surely a wind up. Loving the txt talk and lack of punctuation - it's very realistic, but perhaps you tried a little too hard.


Have you seen Carroll play? He's dead slow even his pony tail swings slowwwwly! All the great forwards/goalscorers we've had at this club and people are goin on about Carroll!
Fekkin! unbelievable:(
kidmillions
kidmillions


Right okay whoever taught monkeys to type has a lot to answer for. right lad whatever you say. i'm sure if you write fsg a good letter then they will hand over their 300million pound investment over to the fans. if they listened to morons like you then benitez will be back and we will truly be a mid table team. this is perhaps up there with the stupidest posts that i've read. you are an horrendous supporter and i'll bet you are the same man who slated carroll and kenny and all of our recent signings. you support our team and our owners, managers and players or else you can buy our club. now stop crying. BR would call you a type 3 fan.
derryred


Rafa was forced to sell alonso you need to read epic swindle mate and we bought aquaman coz hicks and gillet didn't want to pay full amount of fee and if rafa had money our club would be dominating europe/domestic mate aguero,villa,silva,alvez etc etc were spoted before anyone knew about them same as alonso,torres,reina,agger,mascharano,etc etc. He is best when comes to spot talent but money was huge factor in his downfall


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:44:01
I hope to god carroll isn't sold! ok, maybe he looked a bit sluggish coming back from his injury but he looked a real handful in the last few weeks of the season & not only from an attacking front but from the defensive area as well! to be quite honest my dog could have played up front the amount of service carroll was given. I just get the feeling he could come back to haunt us if we sell him :( (sell downing instead please brendan)


A bit sluggish? He's lazy and when he do'es run he get's tangled up with his own leg's! He is crap!And i'll be glad if he get's sold! The proper IN RAFA WE TRUST!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:42:36
It's a shame that all the anonymous posts criticising the club and Brendan Rodgers for considering selling Andy Carroll, were not on here at the beginning of last season defending Carroll from all the abuse he was receiving from anonymous posters.

JRG


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:42:13
Just heard that Dempsey deal complete for about 7.5million. Would make sense just as we are about to fly out soon to the USA.
Lfc 82


Everyones getting her up about this deal but makes sense from a squad perspective, Kuyt was sold Dempsey is 3 years younger and proven in the premiership. Don't look at him as a replacement for Carrol he isn't that is still to be decided.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:41:47
Macca you said the owners would spend big money on players, and not sign older players on longer contracts, what about dempsey, with andy going do you think we've got a big signing coming?


FSG got stung big time last year by everyone's darling King Kenny! Once bitten twice shy! Kenny Dalglish should of been Knighted for what he endured being our manager through LFC's darkest period! But twice on footballing term's he's proper set us back year's! Leaving in 91 and spending all that money on crap last year! So i really cannot see LFC or FSG making any marquee signing's till we get back in the CL!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:41:45
Gonna let you in a wee secret gents.

I do not agree with one thing the club have done this summer. Not one. I don't think they should've sacked Dalglish, because all the team was really missing was a finisher. When they did, I think they should have gone for Rafa, who's won more as a football manager than Rodgers, Martinez and AVB put together and is twiddling his thumbs in his living room on the Wirral. I haven't a clue who Borini is, so obviously he's not someone I wanted us to target, and I'd be inclined to keep Carroll, although I can understand why Rodgers might think otherwise.

That said, I am not going to sit here and be an armchair club chairman and manager rolled into one and say FSG are clueless and Rodgers is out of his depth. Because quite simply, I do not know that either of those things are true because we haven't seen the outcome yet. The proof is in the pudding, gentlemen. If Carroll leaves, does nothing and Borini scores 20 goals, is Rodgers still out of his depth? If we finish 4th, are FSG still clueless?

tl;dr, wait till we've played some football before throwing your arms up into the air and saying we're doomed. And we might as well stick with Rodgers for at least a couple of seasons anyway, because firing a manager a year will get us nowhere.

- Something Red -


Well you dont like it then go some place else, its simple, either support the club or dont


Yes the proof is in the pudding,lets see whats happens between now and Sept 1st for transfers. For some reason every year Liverpools transfer activity seems to be in the media spotlight, other teams get left alone, but with us its constant headlines. If FSG sell AC then so be it, only they and Rodgers know why. Perhaps a lot go's on behind the scenes we will never hear about,i.e Player lazy, lacks commitment in training etc. Having a good Euros they may have decided to cash in? who knows.I have not seen Brendans teams play so cannot comment on that,i put my faith into FSG knowing what they are doing and taking advice from some very football minded people. We will see.
Lee73


People critisising Borini's signing especialy with him being a fox in the box type player could quite quickly and easily end up with egg on their face. As it doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do? Only goals count and if he scores at a good rate? No debate they were wrong....
kidmillions


What does "support the club or don't" mean? In the context your saying it, it'd suggest that going on a long whinging spree about every decision we don't agree with (which is what I'm suggesting is a bad idea) is the only way to the support the club.

That's most narrow minded, kiddo.

- Something Red -


Yeah i didn't agree with kenny's sacking but now rodgers is signed i'm over the moon. i think he is a gem just as fergie was for united and shankley was but like you said proof is in the pudding rafa was found out and had us playing dire football so i didn't want him. i am happy that we signed borini although i haven't seen him play but a 21 yar old international for just over 8 million seems like shrewd business. BR seems to know exactly what he is doing and exactly what system he wishes to play and it fills me with confidence. i would like to keep carroll but if Br doesn't then so be it. I will support LFC no matter what decisions they take and will not complain about it. rodgers knows what he is doing as does fsg so give them a break.
derryred


- Something Red - a long whinging spree is what you DID go on

Puzzled


Lee73 We're always in the spotlight as we're Liverpool Football Club! nuff said!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:40:59
According to a lot of money has been put down on Walcott to Liverpool... now priced at evens. Heard anything about this? Also, if Carroll goes back to Newcastle what do you think the chances are on getting Cisse or more realistically Demba Ba in return?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:40:37
The Odds on Theo walcott to liverpool have suddenly become 1/1, surely this can't be


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:38:04
Hi Eds,

You may have been asked already but was just wondering has BR showed interest in Walcott, i know bookies odds don't mean much but he is now even money to join Liverpool so jus curious to know if any enquiries were/could be made? {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:33:47
How good were Oli Torres and Deulofeu for Spain in the under 19s? Amazing. By far the stand out players in the tournament. Would love to see them sign for us. Lexi


The lad from Valencia del sum think , defo going to be a star with Spain in the future .


Deulofeu has been touted as the next big thing for a couple of years now, but he's as selfish as can be and has quite the attitude.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:33:31
sky have said the betting on walcott being transfered to liverpool is now at evens


They do this to stimulate the market and coerce people to put money on it, don't be misled bu sly and all its machinations


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:33:15
There is another possibility here of course. BR has heard that AC is still a bit of a party animal and Kennys arm around the shoulder approach didn't work with him.

So before sitting down with him for the first time he has allowed speculation about him leaving LFC build on purpose before throwing him a lifeline of one last chance if he committs to shape up. Pure guess work but would explain why he had such specific comments re. AC in his press conference.

Either he wants him out or is giving him a kick in the backside

Fitzy


I've said before,think BR quite cleverly has alerted the whole football world to the possibility of Carroll leaving. Therefore generating plenty of interest from various clubs which will ensure a half decent price. I mean half literally £17 to £20m
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:30:37
Liverpool have rejected an offer from. Ewcastle for Andy Carroll on BBC now.

Apparently the offer was a loan with view to permanent, but the offer was way short of our demands..

Jonesred


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:29:46
why do people want Ba, doesn't anyone remember one of the ed's saying he has a degenerative knee problem, and knowing our luck if we did get him (which i hope we don't) his knee would blow out and we would have one less striker and would have sold a decent one in carroll. makes no sense to me.
huddz red.
p.s if rodgers keep him and gives him a chance i think big andy will change rodgers mind about him, that is if he doesn't rate him that is.


I'd be okay with Ba coming because first off, I don't think we'll get any decent cash in a straight sale of Carroll. We'll take at least a £20m hit on him. So I'd be quite happy with a player as a part-exchange. Second, Ba's played very well since coming to England. His knee is a potential problem, but AFAIK he hasn't missed any long period of games for either Newcastle or West Ham on account of it. It might mean he'll have to retire early, but if he even gives us two to three seasons of the football he's played for West Ham and Newcastle, he'll be worth it.

If we're going to sell Carroll (personally, I wouldn't), I think a part-exchnage involving Ba is the best offer we'll recieve. I'd prefer them to offer Papiss Cisse, but I don't think there's a chance of that.

- Something Red -


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:28:50
Hi Eds, is there any possibility of signing Henry of wolves or Nigel de Jong? {Ed002's Note - No idea about Henry - De Jong, no.}


Why would we want either ? both are hatchet men


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:27:59
Why on earth would Liverpool want to loan Carroll to a team that would possibly be in a battle for fourth with them in the up coming season?
You never make your close rivals stronger unless its very lucrative to you....How much do you think we can get for Carroll Eds?


When have you ever known Newcastle to have 2 good seasons on the run?
Mark my words they over achieved last season.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:26:16
hi eds all reds having been one of the genuine liverpool fans who supported and backed andy carroll through the whole of his time with our great club , im very dissapointed with the news that , one way or another , it looks like his time with us is done. why? towards the end of last season and with england, he looked very good. his value must be rising again , surley it woukld be worth seeing how he does until christmas at least! my 6yr old will be very upset to!! i also think he deserved better service a lot of the time , although some blame does lie with andy himself , regarding posistioning etc. having found his feet , i think he could be a beast this season , unfortunatley , it looks like being for someone else. if thats the case , i for one , wish him all the very best. it also makes me wonder about a little rumour , a few days ago , about defoe? not for me but who knows. godbless 96 all reds steviep62.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:26:15
I do get concerned about the negative posts about BR and his potential signings. BR only has around £30 million to spend; what is he to do spend it all on one player in the hope that this individual can carry us Maradona like up the league?

Come on, BR is trying to buy reasonable players to introduce a better brand of football. I have hated the sight too often in recent years of Liverpool players belting the ball 60 yards up field to nobody in particularly; or being unable to keep the ball; it was and should not be what Liverpool is about.

Kenny spent almost £30 million on what I would call average players, Downing and Adam; surely lets give BR time and see what he can do.


Hatty


How do you know he has £30m to spend ? how many times do people need told, there is no set budget, players are bought on merit !!


Every successful business has to work to a budget, and finacial constraints.
What a silly statement to make.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:25:58
I don't wish to rake over old ground too much, but I feel that it's the case that Dalgish and Commoli's efforts in this whole sorry Carroll saga needs to be highlighted again. Kenny's a legend and always will be, for football reasons and otherwise, this will never change. But he messed up big time with the players he signed and the ammounts spent on them. They spent money like drunken sailors on shore leave and it's no surprise that the money we are being offered for these players seem like a bad deal now. But the bad deals have already been done, and it's been left for FSG and Rodgers to do as best they can out of a bad situation. Lets remember this when we start taking big financial hits on Kennys mistakes, and lets not unfairly judge Rodgers by it. It's a mess that he has inherited, he can see what most people have been saying and thinking for a long time, that a lot of Kennys buys are not of Liverpool standard. At least he's got the balls to do something about it, thank god for that.

David


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:25:47
Here's my thruppence worth on the Andy Carroll situation.
He has had major issues with his attitude and fitness. Do we really expect him to happily accept staying on at Liverpool and staying fit to be Plan B? "Coz I always stay too long" springs to mind. Also, if the money we receive from Carrolls sale goes on new players surely the chances of Plan A being successful are significantly improved? I say stop this crazy talk,leave right now and close the door.. Cork boi


He was a massive gamble to start with, and has not paid off.
Sell for the best possible price, no loan deal!.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:20:35
If Newcastle are really serious about wanting Andy Caroll i think Liverpool should play there cards right and ask for a player plus cash deal! I think personally Cabaye and anything between 10-15 million would be a great deal for Liverpool i know people might say if we get 15 Cabaye would not be worth the 20 that would make up the 35 i still think if w eplay hardball than that would be a terrific piece of business Cabaye would fit right into Rodgers style.... Just my opinion i know very unlikely as Newcastle probably would not want rid of Cabaye and he may not want to come to us but i still think it would be fantastic... Too many complications tho! Eds what do think?


Well said, i like ben arfa, LFC need to do what is right by them, if nufc want him it is ob our terns, not theirs


We don't need another midfielder like cabeye. I think we could do with Hatem Ben arfa as he is the kind of the player that would be perfect for us.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:13:43
What is going on at our club we've gone from rafa,alonso,mascherano,Torres to Rodgers,borini,Moses,gylfi now Carroll might b going these owners are a joke I'm really worried top4 never! Please post ed I've tried 4 times


Waste of post. soooo boring the edds shouldn't have bothered


With any luck, you will stop being a Liverpool "fan" then.


Stop writing cr*p and perhaps you'd get more posted.
Maz


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Who's for banning the '2' liner 'non signed' posts that flood in usually containing the words 'joke' 'mid-table' 'BR is small time'. If we're gonna get trolled at least can we make them work, perhaps a few paragraphs, maybe with a beginning, middle & an ending. Then sign off with something exotic, consider 'Giant peeenis' even?

dd


Alonso profile increased through playing for Lfc & mash? Well he couldn't get in the west ham team, so who is to say BR signings would do the same. Watch out for borini I think the lad has a big future.

Jimbob


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:12:31
Ok I'm curious, we sell kuyt, maxi, Bellamy looks set to leave as does Carroll, we bring in borini and possibly Dempsey....Do you think we going to sign any more forwards, maybe someone like Rondon. Are we still lookin at Vargas?
Cheers
Hutch


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:12:06
Are Liverpool trying to look like a joke. Andy Carroll was bought for the potential that he has, its up to Rodgers to show what a good manger he is and get the best out of the group of players that he has, rather than disposing of them. Carroll showed at the end of the season how good he can be. I think he deserves a chance and Rodgers should show if he is a manger and coach this player!


You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear


This is spot-on! Prove your ability Rodgers...ManageCoach the 'raw' talent into a Player worthy of Liverpool!!


Totally agree, Barcelona are successfull with pass and move because they have mainly world class players in their team. We will not be buying world class players, if any of the young players become world class they will be poached by bigger clubs. Pass and move works for Barcelona playing in Spain, we all know what happend against Chelsea. The Premiership is harder to adapt the pass and move policy in every game. One of the problems we had last season was the inability to change our game when we needed to. Barcelona keep possession and play the ball into the opponents box if there is not an opening it could be played all the way back to the goalkeeper, ball possession is great on paper but does not always make an exciting game. we need more flexibility in our approach than we had last season. Getting rid of Andy Carroll would be a huge mistake, he can contribute by good coaching to a pass and move system and also revert to an old fashioned centre forward roll when needed. These are the sort of players we need players that can change the game with a change of tactics when needed

Bobbinred


Barcelona are successfull with pass and move because they have mainly learnt to do that in the youth system. They became world class players later when they progressed to the first team. Few exceptions of course.


Hold on bobbinred to say that barca's style of play will no longer work is a joke. if you watched the chelsea game then you will see how much luck they had and how many chances barca spurned. rodgers thinks that these players can fit the system so lets get behind them. for all wee know borini can be our next torres in terms of goal return.
derryred


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:11:30
BBC Sport saying we have rejected the loan offer from Newcastle for AC.

I suppose that simply means the club aren't willing to loan him out..

Ed(s), would clubs like Newcastle & Fulham stump up a cash offer?

Stone YNWA. {Ed002's Note - Perhaps. Fulham want it looked as part of a deal for Dempsey.}


Hopefully we can get 20 million for him. He's still young and has proved what he can do at Newcastle so 20 seems plausible.

Jonesred.


Ed002 - I think that fulham want him but LFC are only involving him as a loan deal for dempsey. 1 year. 6.75 million plus carroll. Not saying this is 100% correct just something someone who plays in U16 told me. Haha not i have wrote it i guess it just another rumour as he did say it wasnt fact.

Jordan


 

 

15 jul 2012 21:10:55
please post, i wolud like other people veiws.


hi eds, great work your doing on the site, my point is i get very frustrated with liverpool and transfer of players. it always seems we never get a good deal on purchases or outgoing. i.e aquaman never every figured in liverpools plans so continue to loan out, when he is quite descent player, now he'll leave for buttons after a large fee. even the likes of henderson 20m, adam 10m, downing 20m, carroll 35m. now carroll in the spot light possible loan newcastle or any other club, again a waste of money, but not a bad player on his day. eds could you explain carroll transfer to me when he signed, was it 35m straight payment or installments or so much money on acheivements. so if, a big if we sold him for 25m would we lose 10m.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:10:21
hi eds.. please could you tell me the % of carrol going to newcastle .... i really do feel for the lad think he was just coming good for us. just hope we replace him with a class striker in the nature of fowler


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:09:44
Listen, people are only pissed off coz if we let Andy Carroll go on loan or sell him etc, and replace him with someone like Dempsey then why shouldn't we be cheesed off.... It will be a joke


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:09:12
Not a rumour as such but am I the only person who hopes Carroll will refuse to go out on loan and refuse to talk to or sign for anyone else, yes he had a disappointing season, but the service was an absolute joke, not wishing to be disrespectful to Mr Downing but my cat (who has breathing and mobility difficulties) could have provided better crosses and henderson should never have been played on the right, I would suggest we would be better off getting rid of Downing and Spearing


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:08:37
According to the BBC liverpool have turned down the loan offer from Newcastle for Andy Carroll


Charlie


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:08:07
In relation to Andy Carrol being sold I was just thinking if we could get minimum £20 million for him would this be seen as a loss to the club or could we write that off against the fee we received for Torres from Chelsea. In other words yes we've sold for less but we have n't actually lost our cash. Do you sort of understand where Im coming from Edd02. I know signing on fees, agents etc are not included but could we just write the difference off against torres sale. Working out we only sold for £35m instead of £50m?

If this was the case then I'm behind the clubs thinking. Cut the losses now and back Brendon and what he is trying to achieve. If we're going to back him then it has to be 100% from the start.

Taffytel {Ed002's Note - It is not how accounts work. The Torres money was in the accounts for the year before last.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 21:02:29
evening ed's heard liverpool replacing carroll with walcott and demba ba cud u shed any light please first heard newcastle loan but just heard ba plus 9 million then the 9 mill for walcott {Ed002's Note - RTP.}


£9m for Walcott? I know his end product is way-ward, but given his reputation and English tax, Arsenal would be softer touches than us in the transfer market to take that.

I'd actually take £9m and Ba for Carroll, to be honest. Not sure Newcastle will be that generous though.

- Something Red -


15 Jul 2012 22:17:09
I wish posters would quit going on about Walcott hes a terrible footballer, no tactical awareness no vision cant pass cant shoot, hes highly overated.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:59:10
andy carroll will go back to newcastle and theo walcott will join liverpool


Theo Walcott is a headless chicken that can't play football


Over 20 goals and 20 assists in past 2 seasons suggests otherwise.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:56:39
From Dutch papers, Just in.

Liverpool and Psv have made a deal with each other. Mertens (Dries Mertens) and Strootman (Kevin Strootman) will go to Liverpool for a combined fee of 27 Million euro. Both players will travel to England tomorrow.

Here is it original in dutch.

Liverpool is akkoord gegaan met PSV. Mertens en Strootman vertrekken voor 27 miljoen euro. Beide spelers vliegen morgen naar Engeland.

Great site! Keep it up,
From RichRed {Ed002's Note - It is a joke Rich.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:55:40

I will be very very disappointed in Rodgers if he decides to let Andy Carroll go without giving him ago.

His performances towards the end of the season were good although he did not get the goals he deserved but he did get picked for England on the back of those performances.

I keep reading everywhere that he would not fit in to Rodgers style of play but if he does not give him ago he will never know, on the other hand he does give you do have a different option.

Liverpool paid allot of money for him ( To much! but we all know that).

If Rodgers was to sell him now he would struggle to get £20m far to big a loss after only a season and a half. I don't see any benefit in a loan deal for Liverpool that just makes me think of the Aquilani situation.



PJ


Liverpool also got far too much for Torres. This notion of 'taking a loss' on Carroll is somewhat irrelevant- it's more about what we could get for him moving forward that matters.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:46:22
Ed i see Fulham reckon they can hang onto Dempsey,do you think they can? ta


I seriously doubt it. Clubs frequently say that, only for the player to leave the following week.

- Something Red -


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:45:45
Hey Eds,
Been hearing that we have agreed a deal to sign Strootman and Mertens for 27 million.
Any truth in this?

Thanks


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:45:25
Has anyone heard of deals being done for PSV pair Strootman and Mertens, or is it just the rumour mill going into overdrive? {Ed002's Note - Everyone who uses Twitter has heard.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:45:20
If Carroll not rated/or doesnt fit in with Rodgers plans hes the Manager,he stands or falls by that.You respect that and judge his progress in 18months.By all means moan then if hes wrong.But he stands by his principals and at least knows own mind.I would tell Newcastle-"You screwed us once,either buy him or do one"We need to know where we are ourselves to rebuild.We could put say 15m towards a striker more befitting what Rodgers wants-a class act would appease a Carroll loss


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:45:18
looking like carroll could be heading for the exit and probably for a big loss on wot we paid for him, its a joke.....carroll prepared to take big loss on him ,aqualani prepared to take big loss on him, cisse we took big loss on, kuyt let him go cheap for player of his calibre, maxi also gone cheap, numerous youngster have been let go cheap or free over years and done well elsewhere like thomas ince, danny guthrie and adam hammill. why do we take such big losses on players or sell them so cheap?? man utd sell reserve team players with hardly any experience for decent money? why? cos they arnt any better than our players.. i think we need to stop spending stupid amounts of money on over-rated players and players with supposed potential and sign proven quality.. the money we lose season after season cos of our stupidity in transfer market is a joke


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:55:23
At last: Reading the recent comments here I can see that the penny has finally dropped.
FSG are clueless and although Rodgers is a good manager. He is NOT Liverpool standard. This fascination with Spanish tikki takka is worrisome. A really good manager would develop his own system with the tools he has.
Rodgers is a copyist, a trendy who follows others.
To even consider getting rid of Carroll shows a profound lack of judgement. To consider replacements by average players even worse.
To make such poor judgements before the season has even started is nothing less than amateurism.

Plaa Baa


Your last line is most apt. But not in the way you think it is.

- Something Red -


Im not even going to start with your name, but accusing him of being a copyist? he even stated he will not implement the complete tiki taka style but try to adapt it with the players he has at liverpool. And if you think a 21 year old italy international who went to the euros average then you obviously dont know a lot about football. And as for Joe Allen he's up there with some of the best passers in Europe according to stats so do us all a favour and pick your brain up from the MUFC store.


Got to be one of the daftest comments I have ever read.


'To make such poor judgements before the season has even started is nothing less than amateurism'

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You just did it.

dd


'To make such poor judgements before the season has even started is nothing less than amateurism'

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You just did it.

dd


Utter nonsense.
why should br not reach for the stars in terms of the style of play,that's not copying, that's
aiming high.that's why he is considering getting shot of carroll,because the whole team should not revolve around getting the ball out wide just so you can cross it in for the big fella,if you want to see that type of "football" ,go to stoke.

red jay


You're obviously stupid. Where did Spain/ barca get their style from? Liverpool were playing it before Xavi was even a glint in his papas eye! BR is merely bringing it home. Get your head sorted.
CQ


Actually, Barca can be tracked back to Ajax. All coaches use aspects of previous teams and managers. Its called learning. This does not mean that it is a complete mimic, just influence.

Andy K


I hope this is a dig at and you are being sarcastic.
derryred


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Finesse Seychelles


If you think Spain and Ajax copied Liverpool - You're delusional.

BJH YNWA


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:54:42
Hi Eds - Just seen this rumour floating around twitter any truth? Liverpool agree a £27million fee to sign PSV duo Strootman & Mertens.Both flying to England tomorrow

Thanks
James {Ed002's Note - None - why do you waste your time on Twitter?}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:54:16
watching spain vs greece u 19's match suso's passing is amazing and maybe we should sign oliver torres looks lethal


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:54:09
Carroll is very determined to stay and prove his worth. Eds, what would happen if he was to reject the loan move, and more pertinently, what are the chances of him doing so?


Comments welcome please! This is a good question. I too hope he stays!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:54:07
Maybe BR has seen or been told something about Andy off the field. He stressed about work rate and commitment maybe Andy not pulling weight in training or living it large. To sell doesn't make financial sense, then again if we end up with suarez, borini and dempsey, when previously we had Torres, doesn't look bad business if you put it that way.
Bottom line 4 managers and 2 owners in 3 years has crippled the club, just need some stability otherwise we will always be going round in circles.


Differing comments have come out about Carroll's training. On one hand, he was the earliest back last season and did extra sessions, on the other hand one of the players (I think it was Kuyt) called him the worst trainer at the club in an interview.

Personally, I'd keep him for a season and see does he carry over his form from last season, since we'll take a big hit on him, fee-wise. But that said, Carroll has more of a need to play week in, week out to be at his best than most players. He's not someone, imo, that you can rotate effectively. And if Rodgers just doesn't think there'll be a guarantee of that, it's probably best to part ways. Because he'll just have another disjointed season otherwise.

I think he's also actually paid quite a lot, even though he's a relatively young player. Something in the region of 90-100k a week. There's maybe 4 players at the club on higher wages than that. Not much point in having 90k a week sit on the bench.

- Something Red -


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:53:14
rekindled interest in Luuk De Jong ? Gaston Ramirez perhaps?

One thing for sure, we would much rather prefer to sell Andy Carroll then loan him, to bolster funds. With any funds from the sale, be sure that they would not be spent on Clint Dempsey. Funds for Dempsey have already been put a side and I'm sure Rodgers is aware that the fans will be expecting a replacement to 'excite' as he would say. He also knows we need a goal scorer, we need to have faith in BR and hopefully this works out for the best, nobody said the road to success is full of easy decisions, given time we will have a front line capable of frightening defences again. Rodgers knows his football, I'm sure he has something up his sleeve,

believe, have patience, ynwa


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:52:03
to all the people giving out about B. Rodgers for not wanting to keep carroll. he didn't waste the money on him. and he wasn't a prolific striker for us. he wont fit in to his style of play. do we really want another aquilani!!

trebor.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:48:09
Iv said it once and il say it again.I don't get why Liverpool are pushing big andy out the door.This is the same player we were praising at the end of last season.With liverpool having hardly any strikers it would foolish and stupid to let him go.If so i hope he goes out on loan and proves everyone and the manager wrong.And he can come back next season of a very good season.MATTYLFC


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:42:47
I love this site, but the schizophrenic opinion changing is killing me. I remember in January Carroll being absolutely crucified on this site, one or two stood up for him a little but that was extremely rare. Kenny/Comolli brought him, yet he rarely played. Kenny wanted a free flowing attack and he just didn't fit into that. Everyone wanted him gone and to be honest it was fairly justified for a while as he really didn't seem to be putting the effort in.

Something then changed. His form improved from around the Blackburn game, as did his stamina and confidence. He almost single handidly changed the FA cup final and played well in the Euro's. Suddenly everything is forgotten, people forget he didn't fit Kenny's system well, let alone BR's.

I like Carroll and have felt for him. He wasn't ready to leave Newcastle, he's a local lad that missed his family and mates. Not everyone is cut out to play for multiple clubs, Gerrard being one (don't bring up the Chelsea saga). He seemed to enjoy his life and his party ish lifestyle. He had it made at Newcastle, a local lad, adored by the fans playing well and enjoying his lifestyle. He then moved very suddenly to Liverpool. He was injured for a long time, then struggled for fitness much longer than expected. I think though after that Kenny must have realised that Downing supply wasn't working and that meant Carroll wouldn't work. I also go back to him form, whist it's improved it's still not outstanding and certainly not up to the standard we'd want to see week in week out for our major purchase in our recent history.

It's fairly obvious what BR is trying to do. Suarez is his Sinclair (albeit a massive improvement), Borini is well his Boroni (he wanted him at Swansea remember) and a winger ?? who is his Dyer (that's certainly not Carroll). I know it's a squad game and I'll be appalled if he is sent on loan. I know it was last minute and in hindsight we wouldn't have paid £25 million let alone £35 million, but you can't forget the figure paid.

Anyone who forgets the owners want success, just need to look at the Red Sox. But equally anyone who forgets they're first and foremost business men is daft. They won't want to see an investment like Carroll be loaned or sold for an extremely cut price fee. They will accept Rodgers wished as they trust him, given their battle to get him and to let him oversee everything and not employ a DOF.

Rodgers is a man with a plan, a very specific one. Now it's not always great to have a one approach game, see Barcelona vs Chelsea. However its certainly better to have a strong idea of what you want to achieve and which way you want to play most weeks. My main concern with Kenny was what he was trying to acheive. On one hand he brought Downing and Carroll, simple cross/headin approach. On the other he had Suarez, who he wanted Gerrard, Kuyt and Maxii to link with creating a fast flowing approach. I think Kenny realised that Carroll didn't fit and I think BR knows this from day one.

Is it wise to have an expensive striker with 80k a week wages sat on the bench, costing money and losing value. No it's not. Is it wise to sell whilst his stock is relatively high (it'll never be £35 mil high), yes. I know it's hard to accept when those of you who couldn't stand him, finally realise he's quite handy and not the donkey you tainted him. But the simple fact is he doesn't fit the club, our proposed style of football and our future. If he goes back to Newcastle for a fee as close to £20 mil as we can get, then let that be a lesson that for all of you crying for the big money move, sometimes it l's the smaller lesser moves that make the most positive impacts.

Papa G


I agree with a lot of that mate. We need to cut our losses with Carroll, anything above fifteen/sixteen million should be considered, despite the stick that we'll take, in addition to the financial hit also. Take our medicine and move on.

David


As a club we didn't learn from the Robbie Keane saga then!?


I agree with pretty much everything you say here Papa G, but I will stand firm on saying that your being too quick to judge big Andy. IMO, he has come leaps and bounds from where he was at the start of last season and if Rodgers fancies himself a teacher of the game, Carroll can only improve with his guidance.
EMAN34


I'm not one to have a pop but I'm not one of those who slated andy Carroll and if you come on here regular you would of seen its more like 50/50 either way,IMO I would of liked to see Carroll upfront with borini and suarez either side but hey that's just my opinion.


Absolutely spot on, agree with everything said here, Andy was caught up in all this lets be honest he really had very little say in the move and I'll bet if the truth was known he didn't really want it, Newcastle took the money and it hasn't worked out for the bloke, I have to say though that even if he improved at the end of last season he has not shown enough to convince me that he would ever fit in with BR's style of play and that is the crux of the matter, he's not the first to move when a new manager takes over and you can be sure he won't be the last, tough but thats life!
StevieH


I'll give you 70/30 earlier in the year against and now about the same in his favour. Football is a fickpe game and one moment of brilliance (Carrolls had two, Chelsea FA cup and Sweden), can change everything. Yes they show his potential, but perhaps like Robbie Keane's sage there's a little more to this than meets the eye.

There is a long way to go in this window and I'll try to reserve judgement until its closed. I'm hoping BR brings in his choice of players and ships out those who are either wanting to move for more regular football, e.g Kuyt, Bellamy and Maxi. Or those not fitting in the long term direction he wants to take our beloved club.

Papa G


If BR wants to sell AC so be it. We need back the owners and BR as they now whats best for LFC.
Bexiit


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:42:10
10 M + ba + ben arfa = carroll....id take that .........


BA is rubbish,id do a straight swap for Ben arfa and cabaye


Like Newcastle are going to do either of those things?!,?,?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:41:36
rumours theo walcott may be on his way anfield this summer?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:39:01
If Carroll is going to Newcastle for a season loan and the option of a purchase for £17m, this is pretty bad business for us. Much better to keep him I would say, but I wonder if the fact that it is a good deal for them means perhaps we are interested in one of Ba or Cisse?

I thought I had heard of some interst a few weeks back in Ba IIRC. Would certainly feel better about the whole thing if he came the other way, save that I wish we would stop signing players on the basis of one good season...


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:38:39
I am sorry but I can hold my tongue no longer...I am sick to death of all the whinging, whining posters on here who think that they know best. FSG have come over here and saved our club from a Rangers-esque demise, and yet that is not enough for some of you. Unless they go out and buy everyone that plays a half decent game of football in whatever medium (The European Championships, Football Manager, FIFA, Pro Evo etc) then they are wrong and a bunch of wasters who should feck off and sell up now.
Then we have this Carroll business. Cast your mind back to the first half of the 2011/12 season - most of these type of "fans" were wanting Carroll's head on a spike at the very least with all his supposedly poor performances. Now he seems to be attracting attention from other clubs (which quality players will always do), and all these "glory hunters" are shouting for BR's head - BEFORE A BLOODY BALL IS KICKED!! And then there's the fact that BR's been quiet in the transfer market - AND?? Does the window shut tomorrow? Did he come to a new club with different players? Did we not spend shed loads of money last season and not really get as good a return as any business man would have liked? GIVE IT A BLOODY REST AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GO SUPPORT CHELSKI. (Rant over...valium kicking in...sorry Eds...just needed to get that off my chest!)


Like you state 'a bloody ball hasn't been kicked yet' - Nothing like giving Carroll a chance to prove himself!


Well said mate, the footballing world have an opinion of liverpool fans as being educated and knowledgeable about the game, they obviously havn't been on this web site and read some of the utter dros spewing out of some of the so called fans.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:33:33
Carroll to newcastle for ba + cash

RedDan


Carrol to Newcastle in a straight swap for Ben arfa.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:31:17
Eds
More to Carroll leaving than just performance on the pitch?
I for one don't get the potential sale of Carroll now.., better performance for us and England, his price rising so why cash in now...doesn't make commercial sense, especially not loaning.. See Aqua
Pistol Pete


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:30:50
Since my last post I have read some ridiculous posts about our club being a "laughing stock" and that BR should be the one to go !!

I worry about a lot of our supposed supporters.

AC has been at our club for 18 months.

Apart from his lack of goals what can you remember about his contribution? A decent spell in the FA Cup final, a very good display at home to Chelsea few days later and on the positive side not much else. On the negative side he had spells when he was unfit (possibly self-induced), his touch was non-existent, his movement awful, no link up play with Suarez, missed a bagful of sitters and perhaps was better nodding away corners at our end than heading them towards goal at the opposition end. Anyone who watches LFC properly knows this - we all started to try and persuade ourselves at the end of last season that he might be coming good but in our hearts.....
Face facts - he ain't good enough and never will be.

PieInTheSkyMan


Face facts you say? Lad was 22 moving away from his boyhood club from his family and friends. He came in with the fans expectations of replacing Torres, while still injured. You can make the argument that he is a paid professional and that anyone on 80k a week should be able to cope, but he is also human and most are too quick to forget such things. Selling him when he is showing glimpses of what we expected of him doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not writing the checks.
EMAN34


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:28:45
To any ed who might have any relevant info.

Ashley and Llambias made several disparaging comments regarding Andy Carroll and Liverpool after his initial sale to LFC. In light of this, do you believe that AC will go back to Newcastle with cap in hand and forgiveness in his heart? Secondly, would those comments affect the thinking of the club when setting the loan/transfer fee? Thanks for any reply. {Ed002's Note - I don't suppose anyone will bring it up.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:27:50
BR didn't buy AC & the people responsible for it have been sacked. BR has every right to sell a player surplus to requirements & I for one will back him. Nobody is bigger than the club & if FSG are willing to make a loss in order to restruct I can't understand the reactions of some people on here,it ain't your money...

I trust the club will make the correct decisions overall & refuse to criticise unless they prove to be wrong if indeed they are wrong...stay positive.

Emlyn


I'm with you

Chris in Tamworth


15 Jul 2012 22:18:52
I second that if BR doesnt want him so be it.


Me too, I'll support every step, no matter what.
Red Derry {Ed016's Note - I think it will be a shame if he does leave. However, it could just be BR making a point to Carrol to not feel comfortable, to fight for his place if he wants it.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:26:34
Please please please don't let Carroll go we'd take a huge loss on him which is bad business and he is a different class on his day. I go to the games unlike you armchair fans slating him. Against WBA he was untouchable even though we got beat and you armchair fans saw how he ripped Terry apart in the fa cup final he almost took the game into extra time with his cameo so Brendan if you ever come on this site which I doubt very much but he has a part to play in the rebuilding of our club he will become an England regular I'm telling you if he gets a good pre season under his belt and stays injury free.

Toad

What you reckon eds great work by the way.


Any other games or just the 2 you qouted? He has been awful and im happy br can see this. Im hoping he also sees adam, downing maybe and spearing should be on there way to. RedTurk


The bad business was done when we payed £35 Million for him pal. Why exacerbate the problem by holding onto him when it's obvious that it's never gonna happen for him at Liverpool? Sell him now whilst he has some sell on value, which will gradually dwindle further as he spends a season on the sidelines and as his contract runs down further.

David


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:25:58
I don't see the point in selling Andy Carroll and buying a winger EDs, who's going to get on the end of the crosses that a new winger would put in?? Borini??? Nope.... Suarez??? Nope...... We need to keep Andy Carroll.....FACT....... Everybody needs a plan B

Craig


If Carroll goes I don't expect any 'wingers' to be signed. As you rightly point out, why would you need wingers if there's no one to get on the end of them? Expect a 6 man midfield and loads of short corners and free kicks.


I'n BR's system you rarely cross a ball anyway im much happier if 17 million is spent on a better "plan B"


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:25:53
seriosly? are half these posters even LFC fans? its beyond a joke.... i cannot seem to comprehend how you can give up on FSG & BR already
lfcallday


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:25:11
Hey Eds great site, just wanted to ask if there is any reasoning to what at the moment looks to be the stupidest move of the summer. Carroll leaving us. We bought him injured out of form for 35m, he finaly starts to come into a bit of form and we are ready to take a massive loss on him?! How does that fit in with fenways transfer plan, thought they wanted sell on value? As for so called fans giving him grief you need to remember how young he is and in my eyes selling him would be a massive mistake which would be compounded by not brining in another striker if not 2. All the stick we got for signing him we are about to let Newcastle take him back for virtually nowt. Can't see anything good in this situation as Ba is not half the player Carroll is and can be!

sorry for the rant like nature!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:25:01
I would expect Rodgers to hand Suso a run in the first team this season. He would fit perfectly into his team and style of play.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:24:59
This move back to Newcastle is costing Andy Carroll a fortune.
Liverpool are after a Newcastle player in return which I think might be Cabaye or Tiote.
Agent Talk.


So you are going to offer £20 million plus Carrol for either of them two players. You have no chance.


50 million plus Carroll for Cabaye or Tiote, placing either at 50 million? That's laughable figure mate

AG


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:24:09
wow we gave 35m for carroll and now rodgers wants to loan him back to them.shrewed business mr rodgers.maybe your chelsea reject will excite us all and we'll all forget about about geting rid of a good player for the mediocre dung u are buying.come january we'll be looking for another manager.


Who says Rodgers wants to loan him back, stop making stuff up and bad mouthing our manager when nothing of what you have just written has happened!!


Pull your neck in and go support City or Chelsea you muppet.

David


Come January, will you be applying for the job? I hope so. You seem really knowledgeable.

BigBadBen


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:23:54
Hi Ed's sorry if this has come up if it has ive missed it. Im sure it was said we couldnt bid for swansea players so how are we possibly going for allen?
LeeWils {Ed002's Note - I have no idea of what the agreement, if any, was that Liverpool signed up to.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:23:50
If the supporters had supported Andy the way they are today over the past 18 months, we very well might not be talking about this right now.


The problem was he looked as though he wasn't interested until Febuary this year.

Ozone


Hear Hear mate they're the same ones on here acting all upset and angry, They're the same ones wanting kenny out and being over the moon when Rodgers was appointed manager now tonight they want him out.


Ozone, I dont disagree with you but the fact that people start slating so quickly is the issue. Lets show some patience and support first, and that isnt directed at you. It would appear that we have learned nothing since Lucas. We as a society have lost all patience.

Andy K


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:21:52
Let's or face upto the fact that andy Carroll is not going to score 20+ goals a season , so with that in mind let's buy someone who will , I think we should bite the bullet and sell to anyone who offers 12-15 mil ,andy Carroll is a great bench player when you have tried for 70 mins and not scored playing proper FOOTBALL you can send on the bully style player ,it's not his fault we paid that stupid amount of money for that type of player , and for those who say well he looked great the last few games of the season ,how about the 8 months before that , and I wonder why did he put the effort in for them last few games was it for LIVERPOOL Fc or was it for that England place ??
Cheers Teapot


They have bought Borini mate, thats the point. There is no big super star coming to replace Andy.


I dont agree with you.
Any player who comes in needs time to adjust.

Suarez is one of those rare diamonds who settle very quickly.

Andy has proved his worth. He doesnt the certificate of fans like you to prove he is a good player.

Selling him will be one of the biggest mistakes by LFC in the past decade.

LiverBird


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:21:31
Let's or face upto the fact that andy Carroll is not going to score 20+ goals a season , so with that in mind let's buy someone who will , I think we should bite the bullet and sell to anyone who offers 12-15 mil ,andy Carroll is a great bench player when you have tried for 70 mins and not scored playing proper FOOTBALL you can send on the bully style player ,it's not his fault we paid that stupid amount of money for that type of player , and for those who say well he looked great the last few games of the season ,how about the 8 months before that , and I wonder why did he put the effort in for them last few games was it for LIVERPOOL Fc or was it for that England place ??
Cheers Teapot


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:21:04
"You think Cabaye would want to leave a club where he is a guaranteed first teamer in his favoured position to go to one where he will only play when gerrard/lucas don't?" Cabaye, talented, but a dirty bar steward. Just ask Spearing.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:20:55
So basically we have wasted 35 million pounds n again we will be the laughing stock of the premier league..... I've said it once n il say it again..... Everyone needs a plan B....why do you think Barcelona didn't win European cup or league this season? They didn't have a plan B.....we have to keep Andy Carroll.....even if it's just as our plan B....... Dempsey isn't the answer, he's awful n will be another load of wasted money when we could go out n buy gaston Ramirez n improve the team instead....... I'm getting worried already about the up n coming season........ Give Andy Carroll a chance


Yeah, that Barcelona are useless arent they. God, how their fans must lie awake at night and wish they had a Carroll or a Crouch up front... You utter doughnut.

David


Have you ever watched Dempsey play, your comment of him being awful would suggest not!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:20:48
Dose anyone else think BR is Woy mk2.
I know he hasn't played a game yet, but the players that we have been linked with, i cant not see up getting CL anytime soon.
KK won us a cup but didnt make the CL, so any less surely BR will be sacked also?
Or will he be given more than a year?

Worrying times ahead i think


Congratulations. I have read some dross by no namers on the site, but I think yours pretty much tops the ignorant pointless hall of fame.
I could go in to Roy Hodgsons footballing philosophy, or BRs. Or maybe look at recent track records, or maybe even who embraced 'the Liverpool way' more... But it will probably all go over your head. Unless you stand on your high chair. Then maybe, just maybe, you might get it...

BigBadBen


Let's just wait and see what happens. There are still quite a few days left of the transfer window and preseason and then the season starts. Give him time.

YNWA
JitB. JFT96


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:20:00
That player called Oliver Torres in the Spainish U19 team. He looks like a gem, I wonder if we have looked at him. He plays well with Suso.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 20:17:19
Not a rumour, but I really think if we're going to sell Carroll, we need a big signing as a replacement or else we'll be a laughing stock. Ed's, please tell me we can expect a decent signing if Carroll goes? (like Higuain/Huntelaar/Ba/Joevitic). Borini is a lovely signing but he cannot be our top striker can he?


I don't this we need a big name. I think we need someone we can mould into a big name.

LFC makes stars, stars don't make LFC.

YNWA
JitB. JFT96


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:56:11
just a quick question to all those complaining that carroll is leaving would they still complain if we sold him and got someone far better eg ramirez , munian etc idont think they would !!


Wake up wouldnt happen br only like swansea type players eg mid table players and ill tell u now carrol will turn out better then these players


Well let's see one of them come in first before Carroll goes. I don't see it happening.

Ozone


Better in what sense!? Neither are proven in the PL!? More risks...??


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:55:42
Hi Eds...
Just wanted to put on the record that when BR took over the helm at LFC I was secretly optimistic and excited about the future. The promise of total football and an attacking approach was what the fans needed to hear. However, our activity (or lack of it) in the transfer market along with all the speculation is filling me with dread. BR done a decent job with Swansea, but they were never more than a mid-table team at most, even when playing attractive football. It now seems that LFC is being linked with many 'average' players that would suit a team like Swansea but NOT LFC! If we are serious about contending for a CL position then we have to buy quality players. I don't want to play attractive football as much as I want us to win week in week out. The possible exit of Carroll just typifies LFC's poor decision making in the transfer market in recent years and BR's decision to outcast him further adds to the circus that is LFC's transfer policy...I want Carroll to stay, he is young and has potential as well as a stunning left foot. Let's not sell him for a 15-20 million loss so we can buy yet another average player that doesn't deserve the Liver Bird upon their chest.


Totaly its as if br thinks he still at swansea does he not get it liv is a different class someone wake him up before its to late carrol out omg we need this player he will become a star


The fact that swansea came into the division and were perhaps in the top 3 most attractive playing sides to watch and finishing 11th, when everyone wrote them off to go straight back down again. He achieved this buy getting the right players together that wanted to be a part of the system and style. Players with ability that aren't all about the super model girlfriend and the off field celebrity. I believe he is trying to do the very same with us. And a bloody good job too, i for one will be glad not to see the silly money signings pouring in to our club with pink bently's and 26" rims. Borini is a talent and we will all witness this in the coming season, Dempsey (if he comes is a proven premier player and would be a fine addition to our squad) they wont command huge silly wages and are obviously keen to play for one of the biggest sides in european football and try to help take us back into contention, both
in domestic and champions league competitions. I for one will be backing the manager all the way.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:52:23
Macca a while ago (i seem to recall) said something along the lines of 'he couldnt believe what andy caroll was getting away with'...maybe this is the real reason that liverpool are trying to offload him even though he has had admitedly a bit of an upturn of form of late! maybe my mind is playing tricks on me again!...eds? {Ed002's Note - I don't want to go there.}


Good point mate. BR said that he expected all our players to give 100% to LFC, on and off the pitch. We all knew that Andy loved to party. Maybe this is part of BR's thinking to let him go.

I don't understand why people are blaming FSG for any of this. They provided the funds for Kenny to buy Carroll, Downing etc. These 2 players cost 55 mill combined which was way too much imo. If we should blame anyone it should be Kenny.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Comolli negotiated the prices, you know that Blair.

DanAnfieldRap


But Kenny picked them mate. He said himself he picked the players. Comoli has to take some blame aswell. Still dosnt make it FSG's fault.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Carroll , Downing and Adam were part of Damien Comolli's vision for goals from crosses and set pieces which was a disaster . I blame Damien Comolli for the failure of LFC over the last 12 months .

EdWood


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:49:47
Borini, dempsey and allen in andy carrol and possibly suarez to leave!! What the fook is going on firstly no disrespect to borini im sure hes one for the future but firstly we could have bought someone more prolific from the dutch/french league for the same money and similar age and lets be honest if he was that good surely roma wouldnt of sold him. Secondly if suarez leaves we cant repace him and that means top half of the table would be an achievment and finally carrol is different to what we have, he wants to play for his shirt and weve all seen how our loan moves work out!!

I no and beleive in following my team no matter who puts the shirt on you have to support them but im struggling to follow mediocre sides consisting of players playing for themselves instead of the team. It hurts me to see who everybody else is in talks with and where lookin at relegation fodder. Get a grip brendan, allen, dempsey, borini arnt good enough to represent our proud and illustrious team we need more. Redted75


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:49:33
ed do you think there will be a few more strikers coming in? also who could we get ?
(Dempsey is not a striker, he is an attacking midfielder) {Ed002's Note - Not a "few" more, no. What about all of the youngsters everyone was keen to bring on?}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:44:53
Looks like big Andy is on his way, shame really. It seems as if he wants to prove himself to the Liverpool fans however his future has been put out of his own control, as was the case for Newcastle. Will now be pushed out of a club for the second time. Common sense tells us we will be signing another striker should he leave, however with the style of play Rodgers plays, an ideal replacement would be a small technically gifted player, will we be able to find one of them who will score goals for a reasonable price? we'll see. Ed's, any thoughts on interest in forwards?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:43:56
Not a rumour but please post as i want to see everyones views on this.I feel rodgers is trying to adapt spains winning formation in the euros when they started the games with no strikers.i understand that it worked for them very well but lfc just dont have the quailty in the middle of the park which spain does and i fear rodgers has no back up plan especially when hes trying to offload big andy.Are we how goin to see the days of a 4-6-0 formation being played.whats your views on this eds.

Thanks Marty {Ed002's Note - I am sure he is his own man and no so fickle.}


Its clear rodgers favours 4-3-3 with 3 genuine attacking players up front so don't worry. But, he does need / want the 3 attackers to be skillful and hardworking


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:43:40
Ed002,I don't have a rumour, I find this Carrol situation interesting. Do you know if we have paid the full 35million to Newcastle for Andy? or are we paying installments? I can not see anybody paying 35mullion for him, and I also can not see us losing 15-25 million over night! No business that is being run properly would do that. {Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure he has been paid for. If people want something to really bitch about then performance related payments to Roma could be coming up if Aquilani stays.}


Perhaps if it makes everyone feel better, we can pretend we got 30M for Torres and only paid only 15M for Andy? The amount we paid for Andy is largely irrelevant given that we got far more for Torres than we probably should of.


Is there really a chance that Aquilani might actually stay?
i hope that isn't true. Man is a waste of space on a football field.

S.G.L. {Ed029's Note - Very unlikely!}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:49:11
FSG are a joke and BR is a muppet. We are the laughing stock of football to let a good young player go after we spent all that money on him. He was just starting to come good BR is not going to last long here.


Oh dear, your not very bright, are you...

Stevie.


So Carroll has actually gone?
Where too and for how much, i have completely missed it. {Ed003's Note - nobody has gone anywhere yet}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:48:04
Surely if BR allows Carroll to go back to Newcastle on loan we'll be the biggest laughing stock of all the league. What an egregious attempt to make a mockery of our club.
-Cyse


You've been waiting for ages to use that word!

Nick


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:46:42
It's no wonder why there is not much money for transfers, when the club will accept an £18 mill loss on a player after only 18 months.What an utter and complete joke.
Yet again we are prepared to pay over the odds for a player and let players leave on the cheap,when are we going to learn

alan50


Alan50... not sure what the 50 stands for... Age? IQ? I do know it took my about 50 seconds to work out you where a complete clown. Bitch Bitch Bitch... (sigh)

Stevie.


Financially it does not make sense, maybe it is all to do with attitude, training and off field events?
Maybe Andy is happy to go back home.
The deal will be a success or fail depending on who we get in and how sucessful they are.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:46:21
it will be rodgers first big mistake if he lets andy carroll go.


At least know we have a manager with the balls to make big decisions.

Mighty reds


The only mistake anybody made was allowing you near a computer... Go away.

Stevie.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:45:31
I would rather BR leave and carroll stay.


I think you are wasting your time.

Mighty reds


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:45:20
Why are we infatuated as fans or some may i add with BIG MONEY SIGNINGS ?? We had one for £35 million is that big enough didnt work, oh and another Robbie Keane for £20 million that didnt work. Chelsea bought one for £50 million that hasnt worked. My point being the higher the figure doesnt always mean the better player. I hope we replace with quality rather than players with unjustified high fees.

Mike


True but are the guys being brought in Quality?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:38:49
hi eds, what are the chances of us getting Pasquat from Lecce? he is only 23 and shows a lot of promise in the years to come, be a great addition to the team and wouldnt cost much to buy him, say 7m?
Thanks {Ed002's Note - I guess he does well on a game.}


Do, you mean Cristian PasquatO? He was at Lecce, on loan from Juventus. But, Juventus bought half his rights as part of the Isla and Asamoah deal and then loaned him out to Bologna.

AG


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:34:29
hi eds. if Newcastle off load Demba Ba for £7m (his buy out fee until the end of July) and get Carroll on loan for the season for £1m-£2m plus wages. then that would be a good deal for Newcastle again surely. and possibly a good deal for Liverpool, as he doesn`t fit into rogers plans.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:37:06
Liverpool FC laughing stock of world football, paid 35mil for a player worth 10 at best, paid 16mil for a mackem worth 5mil and 20 mil for a smoggie worth a pack of crisps and a pint of red stripe, you can link yourselves with whoever you want but you have huge problems all over your squad, terrible wingers, average centre mid and a strike force that you'll be lucky to get 15goals from next term, your best player is past it and your a team on a rapid decline, enjoy mid table mediocracy folks ;) HAHA that is all.............


Juan Sebastián Verón, Andriy Shevchenko, Adrian Mutu, Chris Sutton... Did you forget about these?

Stevie.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:36:28
Sly Sports have spoken to sources extremely close to Liverpool striker Andy Carroll and have been told that the England international does not want to leave Anfield on a permanent basis and would only consider a loan move in a bid to prove his worth to manager Brendan Rodgers. coppied that from sly sports.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:36:12
I wonder if Newcastle will offer something like this next:

10m + Ba.

I personally think andy should have another year, or if he does go we need another striker bringing in. Not sure it should be Ba though, are his injury concerns that bad eds?

MIKEY


Thought i remember someone saying he wouldnt pass a medical at liverpool
EMAN34 {Ed002's Note - He has suffered major problems with his knees.}


£10m + ba, so in effect we sell torres and get suarez , ba and borrini , not bad if you look at it that way


Yes if Ba breaks down people be p ssing themselves at LFc all over again,particularily Geordies


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:35:56
Hi eds quiet gutted to hear carroll could leave but do you think if he were to leave and get around 20 mil for him we could go in for ramirez {Ed002's Note - What is this obsession with Ramirez?}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:35:28
On a scale of 1-10 how sure are you that Liverpool will sign Dempsey ?
Thanks reddy


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:35:17
Hi eds if Carroll does go could Ba be part of any deal. Also do you see the reds buying another forward type player other than Dempsey or using the funds on different areas of the squad?

Thanks
Mighty reds


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:34:24
Don't post often but feel compelled to say this. Consider last season after every game Carroll played instead of coming on here and saying what a waste of 35 mill and what a donkey the boy was, we commended him for his work he put in, and noted the progress that was being made to mold him into the player we wanted and needed, would we still be thinking of getting shot of him? Perhaps he may have begin to show his form a little earlier into the season and we wouldn't be considering selling one our star assets. I understand this is all hypothetical and that Rodgers could just see him as a player that wont fit into his system, but I truly believe he will be a world beater one day and it would be a shame to let him go after one season. For all this talk about what a mess Kenny left us in, one thing he did do was sort Andy's head out and put him on the path to become a special talent in the future. Agree or disagree, these are just my thoughts on our big number 9.
EMAN34


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:33:24
Brendan Rodgers stated mid last week that we would finish the purchase of "a real exciting one" the player was Borini so I think it's fair to assume that will be our most significant transfer this summer. Would you say that's a fair assumption eds?

Nevada {Ed002's Note - "Most significant" is subjective. If pushed I would say not.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:31:42
I wouldn't want anyone from Newcastle in exchange I know many would disagree.

Square tomato


I think we should try and get Santon.

Red PG YNWA


Call me stubborn, but the way I see it is Andy has become a better all-around player since he left Newcastle. More fit, better hold-up play, and most definitely more confident with the ball at his feet. Also if the sly article is true and he wants to stay and prove himself that should only work in our favor. Buy him back for 35 mill or no deal.
EMAN34


I rather think Robinson should be given a chance.

Square tomato


Im in complete agreement EMAN.

Square tomato


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:31:28
Eds do you think if carrol does leave lfc will bring in another striker or was borini brought in as his replacement?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:30:42
Eds in your opinion and only as an opinion, do you think Carroll will be at Liverpool come 1st September? {Ed002's Note - You need to ask another Ed - my opinion is well known.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:30:38
I have to say if we let Andy Carroll leave, on loan or otherwise, the decision makers need their heads checking! I think we sometimes forget how young this lad is, and the reason we paid £35million for him in the first place. He has got a huge amount of potential, but too many fans have not backed him because he did not bag 20 odd goals in his first season. The club will never progress if we spend that kind of cash and then ship the player out to out rivals for them to benefit. It will take a very good striker signing to appease this fan. Thanks, GP29.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:43:09
Lets all face it as much as i would love Carrol to stay and prove his worth he just doesn't click with Suarez no matter how hard they try,i think if Liverpool can get a concrete offer in the region of 16-20 million they should sell,non of this LOAN stuff!,he did show good glimpses at the end of the season for LFC and England at euros but i personally think he should be given a fair crack at this season with Liverpool to prove every1 wrong.but i do think Newcastle will put a bid in and arsenal of around 12-15 million,its not enough though in my eyes! brilliant site by the way!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:40:07
Bobby Moncur claims Newcastle are a bigger club than Liverpool!

Ozone


Bobby who?

Of course they are, they've won more than 18 championships and 5 Champs leagues and they also have a global following second only to Man Utd on these shores.......Hmmm, ah no, they haven't and they don't do they! Perhaps Booby needs to reconsider?


I cant understand this need for impossible comparisons as to which is the bigger club. Surely it is about you loving your club and hoping they succeed. I get the Mersey local bragging rights and the Manchester United, who has won the most titles and trophies to an extent but I am more interested in what is happening at Anfield than how big we are compared to anyone else.

Andy K


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:39:03
I really hope these Carroll to Newcastle rumours are true. Without doubt the biggest most expensive flop in our history. What was Kenny thinking wasting 35 m on him? Bye Andy, Dont let the barn door that you couldnt hit, hit you on the way out, Thanks for nothing.

Alan YNWA

{Ed006's Note - I bet you sat stone faced when he scored the (2) winners against Everton this season.}


So 2 goals against Everton and everthing is okay? 6 goals in 42 games is not acceptable for LFC, He was a waste of 35m and he needs to go, Sad but true, Terrible player

Alan YNWA


Such a terrible player that he was vying for a starting spot in England's first XI. Get over the price tag, it's almost a cliche to say now but he was bought for the next 5 years. It was silly of the fans to expect him to come in and fill Torres' boots straight away.
EMAN34


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:27:59
LFC in for Scott Sinclair and Joe Allen in a double swoop to cover the gaping hole in attacking options. If he can get 15 million for Andy Carroll as a loan option is not available.....YNWA


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:27:21
how about carroll for ben arfa we could play him as one of the wide strikers. he proved himself last year and destroyed defences


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:23:12
we are A JOKE CLUB 75m worth of players out on loan,aguaman cole now andy,what happens if he has a bad season ,his value will drop like a nani dive,were is rodgers plan b ,dont think he has one ,not happy with this unless he brings a top striker in ,dempsey for carroll & a unknown borini with suarez as a strike force ,shocking first big mistake of rodgers short life with the reds i feel.


Feel we must sell Carroll cos a loan would clarify us being seen as a joke.


"we are A JOKE CLUB" is a little silly. We have made some mistakes, sure, but to suggest that the club and its history and its future is a joke is a little out of order me thinks.

Andy K


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:22:55
Hi Ed,

If we manage to offload Carroll to NUFC on a permanent basis do you think we would look to bring in another striker as well as Dempsey and could it be Ramirez, as you have previously stated a move for Ramirez is unlikely unless someone is sold?

JJ86 {Ed002's Note - I wasn't thinking of Carroll.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:19:56
Why would we want to let a striker of Carroll quality leave, played well in the last month of the season! Hopefully just gossip!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:17:41
Thanks for reply eds. just wanted to add :

Let's not over react on the Carroll rumours. He isn't world class yet. I would like him to stay as I think he has good potential however if the club want to play with a different style and look to move him on lets just wait to see who they sign in replacement. They may surprise us and get llroente or munian so a front three of boring suarez and munian. We just don't know. Let's not start slagging off BR just yet.

Jordan


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:18:46
if this is how it plays out that big andy is gone.i hope that a big big big money signing is on his way in.jay essex red for life red till dead,fcking not happy eds


It's common knowledge that Dempsey will replace Carroll, isn't it?

Disney!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:17:06
If u want carrol to stay-agree
If u want him to leave-disagree


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:14:45
ED'S a culb like are's having the p*** taken out of us on player's sold break's my heart.come on lfc start playing hard ball.every other prem club do it WAKE UP lets see the money, loan loan loan joke or what,walk on walk on jay essex red for life red till dead {Ed002's Note - Newcastle are not doing any more than any other club would do.}


Club*cheers ed. i know but that boy of are's can come good,spitting chips is all ed


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:14:22
Macca, do you see Iker Muniain as a target, not as a dead on sure, but solely as a liverpool target this summer? Not asking if he will sign, because how the hell should you know, unless you have sidekick powers letting you look into the futur :)


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:13:21
Why are people so concerned with BR's style of play? Hopefully OTHER teams will be worried about our style of play.
If its good enough for Spain and Barcelona its good enough for LFC.
Our most successful period was based on pass and move and possecion football, it still works today and is what footies all about so long as we can put a few goals away.
As Cloughie used to say if the other team can't score they can't win.


I could only hit the agree button once but your spot on.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:11:58
Eds, any chance that demba ba coming to us could be included in a deal for Carroll? Or is Rodgers not interested? {Ed002's Note - No idea.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:10:58
Cant help it but im annoyed that hes letting carrol go! Bad, bad business and especially to newcastle aswell! We are a laughing stock when it comes to transfers! Click agree if u think andy should at least get another season with us! I bet more agree than disagree...

Woozlfc28


This is what happens when you have 4 managers in 3 years and 2 sets of owners. Need stability big time


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:10:12
I know every wonts Carroll to stay but I've heard he is meant to be lazy an rodgers doesn't won't people like that I think 1 more season should give him chance


I disagree, last season I spent a lot of time watching just Carroll and even when he was unpopular (before his upturn in form toward the end) I was a supporter of Carroll.

I didn't think he was lazy, he was clearly lacking fitness and confidence, but I did not think he was lazy.

Nevada


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:05:34
Joe Allen and Adam Johnson both to join alongside Clint Dempsey and a striker after Carroll moves on.
Glenda Johnson will not be leaving, for at least one more season.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:05:22
eds...is it true that Liverpool must give Newcastle 25% of any future transfer fee for AC? but obviously not if he's sold back to newcastle...
and altho im hearing the loan offer has been rejected...who do you think is the most likely replacement or do we have him already in Borini?

j96 YNWA {Ed002's Note - Transfer fee - no. I am not going to speculate on a replacement.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:09:13
Why would Liverpool loan carroll to Newcastle when there going for champions league 2 if I was Brendan I'd be looking for ba on loan...I hope the young talent get a shot this year give them a run in Europa league


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:05:59
I cant see us letting carroll go out on loan.

we would need the money to get a replacement

LAVERS


I think your right, but i also think if somebody was to come in with a 12-15 mill bid he'd be gone


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:04:18
not a rumour but fact ,we have paid over 75m on 3 players and loaned them out to other clubs,we are becoming a f*cking joke of a club.not happy at all.plz post


Very very well said walk on walk on.jay essex red for life red till dead


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:03:01
ED wtf its a joke loan loan loan...Are good old lfc always getting rolled over on moving player's on,what is it we never make any money on player's sold,cheer's for helping us out big man,good luck andy,cant wait for you too come and face us lmfao,walk on walk on.from a gutted red.jay essex red for life red till dead {Ed002's Note - Liverpool have made excellent money on some players sold - Mascherano, Torres etc.. Everyone should by now know the root cause of the issues the club faces now with expensive players. Collectively a time to forget Torres, Alonso & Benitez and look forward, suck it up and move on.}


Just not a happy red ed,ps we have lost 10 fold more on players ed fact,walk on jay essex red for life red till dead,we will not see that 35m back FACT {Ed002's Note - You should have been on at Kenny and Comolli at the time. You should just forget the financial aspects if it upsets you so much.}


Yes we did make good money Ed but look at Keane, Aqua & potentially Carrol - weve lost lots in the past and although I agree with most of your reply, we have to be brave enough to either sell or keep the lad!

I think itll be a massive mistake to let him go now unless a proven "world class" striker is bought

also if bellars, carroll join maxi & kuyt then we still need 3-4 quality stars - yes susu, sterling should get more game time but we will come up short if we dont {Ed002's Note - The obsession with money is causing a lot of the concern - and it is clear many folk simply could not understand the finances. I think it better to ignore them.}


Ps i move on every year ed and have done for the last 20 year's i will suck it up but i will say it how it is.so ed are you happy with 35m down the sink please tell.win lose or draw IM red till dead.pps i would just like too ask how old are you ed ,WALK ON WALK ON {Ed002's Note - The thing is once the money has been spent the amount is irrelevant in respect of a future sale. It is not a dating site and you should never ask grown ups there age. But I am very, very old.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 19:00:54
If the news is right about Andy Carroll to Newcastle, I have to say I can't help but feel sorry for him. He worked his butt off towards the end of last season and proved that he really is a good player. I understand that Brendan Rodgers wants to play a certain way, but I can see myself saying 'Carroll, would have scored that' more than a few times next season. He is a threat and at times is 'unplayable'. It's a big decision from Rodgers. I just hope he's called it right?


The prob is in your post , he worked his butt off towards the end of the season so what happened the other 8 months of last season when quiet frankly he was awful


Proved he was a really good player? you my friend was watching a load of different games to me.. Yes! I do agree he did improve.. but i wouldnt go as far to say he's a really good player.. he stepped it up ok.. for how long? nah.. i want him gone


I feel he made a significant contribution towards the end of the season and would hope that form would carry over to this season. I didn't say he's 'a really good player'. What I did say was ' he really is a good player'.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:59:36
Liverpool F C should learn from previous mistakes,We always coming off worse when we loan a player out...sale or nothing


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:59:19
Hope you reply eds because i feel a lot of liverpool fans are feeling this. Why is BR not giving Carrol a chance to prove himself? he hasn't even come back to training yet and he plans to ship him out. Carrol said today he is happy in liverpool and doesn't want to leave, i want players who want to play for liverpool football club and players who want to prove a point. Drogba proves big strikers can play with their feet.
Reply would be great, thanks {Ed002's Note - I recommend that you go through the archives for last season and look at what the fans thought after every game Carroll played. Rodgers will have his plans and if players are not in them then they will be told and will hopefully move on.}


Thankyou ed, carroll didnt try for nearly the whole season and he was one of the reasons we didnt do so well, along with henderson, adam and downing. RedTurk


But your love interest Suarez was a saint wasn't he RedTurk? Getting banned for 10 matches and missing several golden opportunities. I'm not bashing him, just saying if your going to lay the blame on the other players then surely Suarez must take some blame too?

KiwiRed


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:59:04
if they offered to take Carroll on loan we should ask 4.ba on loan ed's do u reckon we will ask for one of their players please answer thanks lfc-liq {Ed002's Note - Newcastle will no doubt be continuing to see what options they could offer.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:57:08
Straight swap. Andy Carroll for Cabaye, would be a good deal for both clubs imo.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - I rather doubt that would suit Cabaye.}


Why would it not suit cabaye to join a bigger club.


Ed002. You said on the rumours page expect Newcastle to throw up other options in the next couple of days. What do you think these options could be?

Thanks mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - Actually Blair I thought they were going to make a player plus cash offer first - which I guess is where they may go next. I would doubt a loan would be attractive to Liverpool.}


Why on earth would Cabaye come to us? United, Barca and PSG are being linked with him, He would never come to us.


You think Cabaye would want to leave a club where he is a guaranteed first teamer in his favoured position to go to one where he will only play when gerrard/lucas don't?


Ed do you think they may offer us Ben arfa as he would be just the kind of player we need. {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


BR likes to play 4-3-3 mate. You could have Gerrard, Lucas and Cabaye as the midfield 3.

I think there would plenty of room for him. I know it ain't going to happen, just something I would like to see happen.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:56:33
Hi Ed now carrol is looking likely leave. Do u expect a replacement will be brought on. And do u expect lfc to sign dempsey. thanx {Ed002's Note - If he leaves there may well be a replacement. I think there is a good chance of Dempsey.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:56:15
I like AC and really hope he get a fair crack but I'll get behind whatever decision is made.

Why is it though that we seem to be loaning players we have invested so much in - £50m + on 2 players AC & AA.

Any chance RM, Chelsea & Barca will loan us FT, XA & JM – didn't think so!


Let's stop letting other clubs take the p*ss out of us!

I hear Newcastle have put a loan bid in WTF we paid £35m buy him of f**k off, I really hope it's not to bring Ba the other way! Please god no!

RedLee


Mad head if we get ba it'll be a right signing


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:56:13
If Andy goes then you can chalk another one up to ed2 . I don't care bout that but after Kenny I then worry that Suarez is next . Annil


Exactly. suarez leaving is a bigger worry

redkenyan


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:55:54
newcastle should be told there is no way AC is going on loan.if they want to buy him they should be screwed for every penny ,as we were when we bought him!


Well said.jay essex red for life red till dead


Thing is newcastle wont pay over the odds ,they will just walk away


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:53:51
having serious doubts about our club!seems to me we cant attract big players anymore theres no money fsg need to spend now or they never will and we will turn into middle team!and rodgers seems to have a prob with big andy did he watch th way he destroyed chelsea and sweden !now that newcastle back in for him that be 35 mill wasted and we go and watch him do the bizz elsewhere!so brendan wheres your plan b in games?and am sorry am not excited by borini is he prolific no and as for dempsey looks good small club but so did adam he not a liverpool player and never will be!go on have a go but i just see hard season again and our big players gone!


Must admit that i am starting to have doubts myself. Got a horrible feeling that we are going to end up with no new ground or redevelopment and a transfer policy similar to aston villa. Are you watching David Moores ? Do you care ?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:53:29
Sly sports reporting newcastle have bid for ANDY Carroll on a season long loan with a view to a permanent transfer. Hope this ain't true, tiki taka (which will take time to implement) football doesn't work on all ocassions (as Chelsea proved againts barca), and coming up against physical teams like Stoke we will probably need a big physical presence like Andy or at least as plan B. FSG will not be recouping their 35m whatever happens but surely it makes sense to hold to a young talent to at least give him the opportunity to enhance his reputation and price tag.

Rhondda Red


Spot on about the tikka tikka with the likes of Stoke mate. It may work on the continent but I don't think that style alone will win an EPL.

Ozone


I agree - but what people are really missing is the 'secret weapon' discovered during the excapades od Euro 2012 - Andys hair products - with these we are guaranteed 50+ goals per year from crosses and set pieces - without these we are doomed - doomed I tell ya


You have to be able to mix different styles even in one game in The Prem


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:52:15
newcastle want to loan carroll which is grand but surely if he wont fit into the system this year then its highly unlikely he will fit in next year so if he has to be let go then sell him and dont be having other clubs take the piss with this loan carry on because as we have seen it never works out for us !!


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:52:07
I think if Liverpool were to sign Dempsey, they should do it before leaving for USA. This could prove to be a huge PR success, as many people tend to support teams because of one player (mentioned because of Dempsey's popularity in USA). He could win us a few fans over in the States. Do you agree Eds?

TheDarkKnight {Ed002's Note - I would not overplay it.}


A few fans would be quite accurate. I really don't think it is well understood how little soccer is followed over here. It's growing which is great to see, but it's nowhere near pervasive and my non-scientific survey shows that 99.99% of Americans have no idea who Dempsey is.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:50:40
was watching sly and they said carroll want to stay at the club he would only go out on loan to prove himself to brendan rodgers ( soz about spelling if got it wrong) but rodgers has said hge is not part of the plans
lfcleee


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:50:19
Hi ed, great site. I just wondering what type of forward fabio borini are?:)

Axel {Ed002's Note - Try YouTube - I am sure there are clips.}


I don't think he is as good as people think and not in same class as Carroll.


Different kinds of player. Be like comparing gerrard with Silva. same position very different type


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:49:03
Ssn reporting newcastle want Carroll on year loan with view to permanant move next year. We would be crazy to allow such move giventhat we gave them 35mil for his services in the first place. It should be 15-20 mil or nothing.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:47:01
If carroll does go back to newcastle on loan, other than dempsey i wonder if we have another striker lined up


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:46:33
Hey eds, sky reporting Newcastle have made a move for carroll do you know if there is any truth in this? Does it look like Lfc are looking to move Carroll on? Seriously other than paper talk.

Thanks,
Jordan {Ed002's Note - I would expect Liverpool to be far more interested in a sale which would provide welcome funds. Seems like a worst case option for the club. Expect Newcastle to through up another option or two in coming days.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:45:30
eds, with reina being left out of the preseason squad is it because hes not due back or is this the end of his lfc career?
cheers
{Ed002's Note - He is on vacation.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:44:22
Eds, do you reckon Carroll is likely to want to re-join Newcastle or is he determined to stay & prove his worth to Rodgers? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he wants.}


I personally can't imagine him being interested in a return to NUFC especially after the way they booed him on his return to Tyneside. Just my opinion

Irish Redman


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:40:12
Keep up the sterling word Ed's..

Just a quick one, is there any truth in Sly Sports : NUFC to make offer to take Andy Carroll on season long loan with view to permanant move?
Or do u think they just drumming up business for there Sly Bet service?

ShottskiLFC.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:39:44
The Dries Mertens story seems to be coming from a Brazilian journalist who is also claiming Ganso is off to Arsenal... Eds, Any idea if this info reliable? {Ed002's Note - Of course not.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:39:38
Ssn reporting that newcastle have made an season long offer for andy carroll
Can't see it myself

Wazaldinho7


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:38:31
Dempsey will seal a deal with the club by wednesday, and will join the team for the North American tour. I have no 'inside information'. Just intuition that this rumour makes perfect sense. While some disagree that signing an American player will do anything for fan base in America, I think this naive. There is a reason Lebron James has graced the pages of LFC homepage, and it isn't just his investment in the club. The USA is a massive sporting enterprise, and surely having a star American on a big name Premier League team will bring about positive dividends for the owners. Or, perhaps, they would just like to have an American on the team. Either way, I think Dempsey will add to our attacking options.

Coop


I agree, Dempsey would not only help the squad but will give LFC a nice marketing chip here in the US but people are acting like there's not alot of Reds supporters here which I can assure you there is, especially in Philadelphia where im from..the local bar has liverpool kits hanging from the ceiling and believe me there must be 100 of us who watch every game there..

phillyred


Coop, I agree that Dempsey would add to our attacking options but I just can't concur that him being American has anything whatsoever to do with this.

It's not a negative by any means, but it will mean relatively little in the grand scheme. After all, how many Fulham supporters are there now in America (given that Fulham is a pretty American friendly club)?

LFC is doing the right thing over here by trying to leverage LeBron (now he on the other hand is a huge, huge name) and I think the Fox Soccer documentary is also pretty genius. I'm sure trying to get a proverbial piece of the American pie is wise, but if they wanted to grow quickly here, we would be best served by signing someone more like Guillermo Ochoa (not that we need an new GK, just a name that comes to mind from the Mexican side since I can't Chicharito moving to us). {Ed002's Note - You do realise the Fox programme is the third in a series - they have already made two about EPL clubs.}


About the reality series- I've heard that Ed002 but I'm not sure if they aired here in the US or not as I didn't have the Fox Soccer Channel until a few years back. FSC is promoting the upcoming series heavily here though (not unusual to see the promotional add during every commercial break) and that would seem to be a good thing. {Ed002's Note - The others on Manchester City and Chelsea certainly aired in the US.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:35:48
Macca are there any further developments on any more incomings before the North america tour?
Cheers Barry


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:35:43
hi eds, newcastle have submitted a request to load andy carroll for the season. with the hope to signed him permanently at the end of the loan deal. sly {Ed002's Note - You will find that Newcastle will look to several options to instigate a return, perhaps providing a viable consideration for the player.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:33:56
Hey Ed's and fellow liverpudlians love the website so keep up the good work!
Can you fill me in on 2 things though please;
1. What is Borini's main job? (creative player, goalscorer etc.)
2. Whats the situation with Pato? is it true he doesnt play? and if so whats the reason for this as he is a star for the future! Keep workin hard guys! {Ed002's Note - Borini is a striker. Pato has struggled with injury.}


The milan hiearchy have been trying to find a new home for pato for 2 and half years now. Nobody has been interested enough to lodge a serious bid, Milan would've let him go for 25m before but they may keep him a little longer when the expected sale of Ibra goes through

Nevada


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:18:51
I see a lot of people on here questioning Dempsey , but at the end of the day he's been performing consistently for fulham for years.

He is a premier league proven player simple as that.

People questioning his age , need to look at the fact we need older players in the team.
We've just lost kuyt and maxi , and possibly bellemy. We need experience.

We have young players in reserves trying to break through , so Dempsey will the gap until this happens.

People need to realise that were not in a position to buy these "marquee" players.
We have one of the highest wage bills in the league and we don't even make the champions league.

LAVERS


I agree Dempsey would suit us fine at the moment covering as an attacking midfielder and playing centre forward on occasion , however I believe we have all the experienced players we need .

The first choice eleven will have Reina , Johnson , Skrtel , Agger , Enrique , Lucas , Gerrard & Suarez all of whom are very experienced .

I would like to see Dempsey as the only ageing player signed this summer and more young talent acquired .

Maybe Downing and Adam should move on aswell to really trim the squad ?

EdWood


I agree i wouldnt buy any more older players after dempsey.

i can see downing staying until sterling breaks through.

LAVERS


Lavers i totally agree with you mate. Dempsey is a powerful Player with a great end product.

Mighty reds


I only question whether he is an improvement on what we have currently? I dont think that he is. He's a decent player, but we have a few decent players we need players who improve the team


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:21:49
i really hope rodgers doesn't make carroll leave just when he's comming good...it'll be a hell of a bad call & could turn fans against him quite early if carroll produces elsewhere & borini struggles, i couldn't believe it when the story came out because the last couple of months he was starting to look really confident... i bet this has knocked that right out of him !


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:21:41
It is pretty clear that we want ship Andy Carroll out
Feel sorry for the lad he tried hard did everything that was asked of him - slim down / get more mobile / change lifestyle / not moan etc
But the dread Lfc striker curse has struck again where we take on promising strikers and leave their careers in tatters
(pretty sure The curse was transferred to us by the Manc since whiteside)

If and when Ac is sold, then signing Dempsey will not be enough - we need to aim for Pato or similar now is the perfect time to go in for him
His profile hence price should have dipped since his injury / off-field antics / time out of the limelight / interest from PSG and Madrid have waned

Hopefully his class is permanent !!


Just wanted to add that I am pretty sure BR knows that if AC is sold it will free up funds and that everyone wi expect a marquee signing

Leam Red
Now that would be exciting
Borini-Allen-Pato
And my dream signing Muniain - I am probably the only one who still hasnt give up hope on him - just now the kid is destined for great things at the right club


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:21:13
Question for Eds,

Do you think there is a good likelyhood of signing Dempsey? Seems strange to me considering they dont want to sign older players. Dempey will be 30 next march and he is no better than the central midfielders we currently employ.

Nevada {Ed002's Note - Yes, I think there is every chance.}


Probably a good thing that dempsey doesnt play cm then


Perhaps I'm mistaken does dempsey not play CM/AM? which is a position that we have plenty of players for? including Steven Gerrard?

Nevada


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:17:10
Hi Eds,

Your opinion please.

All this talk about AC stemmed from a nothing comment from BR, is this correct?

So is there any substance to SSN making a song and dance of it, AC going on loan (reluctantly) but seemingly doesn't fit in to the system?

Now I appreciate he may have to (like everyone else) fight for his place but surely he isn't going to be ruled out by BR before he has even assessed him?

So I'm not asking if he is staying or going but is the lad just being targeted because it's an easy story?

RedLee

{Ed002's Note - There is substance to it Lee.}


This is simply my guess and I could well be off base, but it seems to me BR might like to add some add'l players into the squad and we obviously don't have a huge budget to work from.

I'm not saying we have to sell to buy necessarily, but just that having add'l funds available would likely make BR's life a tad easier as it could upscale the targets he's looking at.

So, of the existing squad, there are very few players worth around the £20M mark - Suarez (obviously), Carroll is there or thereabouts, and perhaps Agger. Of the 3, Andy is clear the one who would fit least and, while I don't dislike the lad and always hoped he would do well, he hasn't exactly been a star performer thus far, although I don't think the fault is his and his alone for this.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:17:09
Hi eds,
do you know if BR is likely to employ a 4-3-3 formation at Liverpool like he did at Swansea? Wouldn't this mean that Liverpool still really need a couple of more strikers in their squad?
And what would this mean for somebody like Downing if they play without wingers? Surely it would be a bit harsh to sell him after just a season...
Thanks


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:10:59
hi eds i know this might be a strange question but i was wondering has liverpool ever been genuinely linked to a world class player at any time or has there always been the problem with us not having the financial means to sign them? i mean after all it is liverpool fc i'm sure plenty of players would love to be a part of the club and want to play for liverpool {Ed002's Note - Putting aside the subjectivity of "world class", Torres arrived with a very good reputation, Luis Garcia also. In the past there was interest in the likes of Aguero.}


I would say that Karl-Heinze Reidle arrived with the reputation of being world class

Nevada


Reidle past it when he arrived like Moreintes


 

 

15 Jul 2012 18:07:01
Hi Eds, amazing work you're doing on this site, and thank for your upcoming answer.
Is it possible that Liverpool make a bid for Schalke's pair Holtby and Draxler?

Would be a perfect addition to Borini Dempsey and Allen {Ed002's Note - No, I don't think it possible that Liverpool will do that.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:59:26
Sly sports news reports Carroll would reluctantly move on loan if he has to!


We should have learnt from aqua stuff loaning out think should either keep or sell take hit move on just think it will come back and haunt us if sell
Logo


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:58:52
Can somebody clarify something for me please?
Ba is being mentioned as a player to fit the Rogers way....can head well and hold the ball up! ( Hello Andy Carroll)
We have signed Borini therefore Carroll is going....so who replaces Cardiff bound Craig Bellamy?
Is it me or has Rogers already lost the plot or are too many people putting two and two together and getting Carroll out?
Carroll looks great and all of a sudden the new manager gets rid!!
I hope Rogers isn't that up his own apse that he feels Carroll doesn't suit his way!! Carroll's touch in the Euros was better than most!
I hope our new manager isn't that blind!!!!


We are only part way through the window, mate. Lets wait and see what happens before we question the new manager's ability to find the plot.

Andy K


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:57:51
Ed are there other clubs who definately want dempsey eg arsenal? Many people have said he wants CL football {Ed002's Note - Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Spurs and a couple of German sides were showing interest. But Liverpool are best placed right now.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:51:25
Evry1 knows carrol situation is gettin beyond a joke,, eds could you plz clear some things up, has carrol got any chance of stayin or is he just going to get pushed out?? I hope brendan gives him a chance hes a real talent under the right manager
Basy {Ed002's Note - My honest opinion remains that I suspect he will be sold if an acceptable offer is made for him that suits both the player and the club.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:50:19
Hi great site, first time post, sky sports just announced the following, LFC will only accept offers to buy AC not interested in a loan deal. A Source close to AC has said he does not wont to leave LFC, loves club fans and city but would consider going out on loan if it proved to BR that he could fit into his plans. Checkout sly headlines on the hour.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:49:36
After the post regarding Skys report on Andy Carroll going on loan, I reluctantly checked it out. Shame on me!!
Absolutely nothing new in the report. The same supposition as last weeks report.
Read "Sky Sports understands" as " Its a slow newsday, and its 24 hours since we made up something negative about LFC, so lets regurgitate this one".
I would have been better off reading the Beano as at least the level of journalism is superior.
Red4Life72


HI your right on glad, to see there still is a beano what about the dandy/wizard/hotspur/etc are they still in print?(godin)


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:48:17
hi eds , thanks for the great site .

This is directed at Ed 002 .
Do you think it would be wise to sell Andy Carrol for less than 20 million pounds ?
Thanks . {Ed002's Note - In my view it is not a matter of being wise or not. If he is sold the club will seek the best return they can on on. If he is not in the plans of the new manager, then perhaps leaving the club would be the best solution whilst brining in much needed funds.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:46:51
Ill be gutted if Carroll goes, I atleast hope he gets a chance to prove himself in the USA. But like ed002 says players come and go if he goes we got to suck it up.

Square tomato


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:45:28
im sorry to put downers on people but clint dempsey wouldnt be a good signing now a few years ago yes but he is what 29 soon be 30 soon and so were gonna get what at least 2 years good out of him,dont get me wrong a great player but he is not worth 10+ million so if we can get him for the max of 8 million then great, what do you think eds,plus why dont we go for a young attacking player like douglas costa or gaston rameriaz.


Dempsey is only a year and a bit older than Downing and almost three years younger than Gerrard. I really don't think his age is all that relevant, to be honest, and my opinion is perhaps people are making too much of the 'buy young for high resale' theory.

The price Fulham wants is probably of greater import, though.

RDL


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:41:49
is there any truth (hope?) in LFC re-signing Torres


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:38:45
I think everyone is over reacting with whos coming in and going out.
Everyone with an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that last season we were a bit lightweight in a few departments.
Lucas injured? a big miss along with Gerrards injuries. We didnt have the strength in depth to cover both of these being out, hopefully we will remedy that this season and fingers crossed the pair will be fully fit all season.
Defence, nothing wrong here with Agger and Skrtel we was solid Reina was a bit off his usual high standard, Johnson Kelly Flanangan and Robinson Coates these are Great and players with great ability and potential with each season that passes they can only get better.
Midfield as Stated before with Lucas and Gerrard, KK missed a trick selling Raul Meriles he was one of our best players the season before and not playing Maxi would of helped, But Henderson Cole Aquaman and Downing Sterling are not that bad of Players, We are quick to slate but not quick to praise Henderson will be a quality player in time, I would of thought KK would of bought another striker in January and maybe some of the draws we had could been turned into 3 points, We now have Borini Carroll Suarez who can score, Hopefully BR will give some of the reserves a run out, All this call for Big name players is understandable but you have to work with what you've got and within your means, (RANGERS) We played some fantastic football last season we mullered teams football wise we just couldn't score.
If we can put that right i can see it be a season to remember for the right reasons.


Could not agree more.
nail hit firmly on its head.

red jay


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:33:39
Anyone else worried about Rodgers style of play and not having the players to play in that style? Could you imagine England playing like that, it would be farcical and all the opposition would have to do is close you down to get the ball. I hope BR knows what he is doing otherwise it could be a catastrophy. Ynwa. Red Toisacok.


We have many players who can find a pass quickly.

KT!


Why do you think he is signing new players , Obviously buying players that will fit his philosophy.

Agger , Skrtel , Johnson , Enrique , Suarez , Lucas , Gerrard , Borini , Reina , Sterling , Suso , Henderson are all suited to his philosophy already imo.

Tom.


Of course he knows what he's doing. His style of football is the same philosophy as Barcelona. Barca bought Ibrahimovic to give themselves another option if needed. We all know that didn't work and Ibrahimovic was hastily moved on. IMO that's why BR see's no place for AC in the team he dosnt suit his style of play.

Everyone saying that England and English clubs should learn how to play like Spain and Barca. We get a manager who wants to play like this, but still people complain? Instead of complaining maybe we should be excited that BR has brought this kind of football to the club.

We could have got a head start on other clubs looking to play this way. When we installed BR as manager.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Another negative post with YNWA attached! makes me sick!!
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:28:40
Hi ED, do you think the rumors of an accepted 14 million bid from Liverpool to Dries Mertens can be true? {Ed002's Note - Nailed on.}


Don't do it to yourself Ed, many don't get your sarcasm.

KT! {Ed002's Note - If they could be bothered to read the other posts then they would.}


Forgive my synicism Ed 002, but was that reply serious or sarcastic? Is Dries Martens a serious target o just a BS rumour?

Mark the Selby Red {Ed002's Note - Mark it is simply more Twitter based BS - rememeber it was only 10 days ago that Ramirez was signed.}


I know Kenny liked him, so we would have alot of scouting done on him, expected him to move to Bayern, is there any substance in this then or are you being your sarcatic best ED002. BTW don't stop the sarcasm, its good good good

redphil {Ed002's Note - I don't see Mertens moving to LIverpool - if he moves this summer I suspect it may well be to Bayern Munich although there is interest from Lazio.}


Thanks Ed........whilst I have you, just wondered if the interest in M Philips has totally gone now. Was a lot of talk towards the end of the season off KD being interested, I take it BR Isn't as bothered?

Mark the Selby Red {Ed001's Note - I don't know, being perfectly honest. Blackpool are reluctant to sell, which might be more of the reasoning behind nothing happening with him.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:24:04
posted wrong viewing times regarding pre-season friendlies only copied what was in sunday mirror. the times on espn website as follows

21 july toronto versus liverpool 9pm

25 july roma versus liverpool 2330 pm

28 july spursversus liverpool 6 pm

alan waddle


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:23:53
EDS is it possible we will keep Carrol and Suarez and Joe Cole along with Borini and Dempsey? or do you think 1 of the above will move on? {Ed002's Note - I have said that I expect a couple may leave.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:23:38
Hey eds AC has said he would go on a loan move with I think a season at the villa,west ham,Newcastle would do him good..do you think they should do the same with Henderson? {Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:22:11
Any interest in lewis holtby? {Ed002's Note - Arsenal may be interested in Holtby, but that is all.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:16:53
on sky that andy carroll is willing to go out on loan , poor move if I do say so, br should let the kid stay til jan to fight for his place


You only have to look at the quality of the teams linked with AC to work out he not good enough for a top team.


AC Milan?

Chuck Norris


 

 

15 Jul 2012 17:14:43
No loyalty in football. When players push for a move fans jump on their back & accuse them of disloyalty. I think the treatment of Andy Carroll is a disgrace. He wants to stay but is being forced out of the club. I only hope he goes out on loan then returns once Rodgers has been sacked before January. You live & die by your mistakes.


Kris Halifax Red.


Rodgers didnt buy the player though. So its Not his Player.

Mighty reds


So your hoping we fail and the Manager gets sacked and all because you think Andy Carroll should stay. Disgraceful support!
kidmillions


If all this paper talk is true then I feel for Carroll and what a waste. It would be a daring and brave move by Rodgers.
However, so far it's just paper talk and we all know what the papers are like for making up there own stories just to sell their papers.
Personally I've heard nothing on the Carroll saga but I'm sure these papers have unsettled him somewhat.

I like Rodgers and hope he succeeds in the style he promises.
I feel for Dalglish and scratch my head at his departure as I feel he could of done well this season.
Rodgers is young and inexperienced but has the hunger. I know he is comfortable with his style of play but he needs to be adaptable and for me Carroll should stay in the squad and given a chance. Tiki taka Football is great on the eye but ineffective at times and direct football must be. In my opinion Carroll has more to give and a chance to prove his worth.
Physic red


I think we need to wait til AC returns to the club I have faith BR isnt just looking to push any players out without fully assessing their worth . Andy did great at the end of last season and looked more than useful in the euros . Lets have some patience

Andygrim1 (grimsby red)


We need a different option which Carroll provides. Times have changed 4 managers in 3 seasons. Carroll edging his bets by preferring loan move tough start especially home games so who knows how long Rodgers will get.

Kris Halifax Red.


P.S Rodgers has already made a mistake by saying signing would excite fans I for one am very underwhelmed. Good luck Andy.

Kris Halifax Red.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 16:55:09
Eds - If we are apparently going to be playing a 4-3-3, then surely there isn't a genuine place for midfield winger types... the 3 central midfielders (if which we have masses) and three technical and mobile forwards... I know that a lot of the fans are mad for some wingers - but i don't see how they can fit in.. adam johnson for example... unless he's a 1 out of the three forwards? would be interested in your thoughts..

Ta

Red Benny T {Ed002's Note - Sadly Benny I have no interest in formations but other, for some bizarre reason, do. No doubt you will get some feedback.}


The style of 4-3-3 that Rodgers plays relies on high speed short passing based on triangles. There is no call for an out and out winger as you don't beat your man and put high balls in, you pass around him and retain possesion.


Formations are only relevant at the start of a game, they constantly change throughtout a match.

KT!


I agree with the OP.

Optimal triangulation demands formation and discipline.

4-3-3. Or 2-3-2-3 (as some prefer to look at it, particularly in possession) provides such optimalization.

But as ed002 said... What does Johan Cruyff know about football eh!

Never mind silly Johan - the ed was talking to a guy at Clairfontaine you know... did he tell you about it? So forget everything Cruyff said. lol.

(Even though this guy at Clairfontaine spent his time seemingly trying to understand Cruyff's style by following Ajax & Barca, the ed still seems to still give this guy more credit than he does to the teachings of the almighty Johan!)

BJH YNWA (sorry ed - It looked like an invite there...)

ps - To the OP, I posted a lot about these things (wingers/formations & stuff)in the last days if you can be bothered maybe they'll be of some interest (or not!).

I'm not typing that much again though! Cheers.

To form triangles demands formation.

By definition -

'formation n. The act or process of forming something or of taking form'


 

 

15 Jul 2012 16:40:38
Anybody who wants to watch the kid Suso in the final of the U-19 Euros. It's on Eurosport tonight at 7.30. He has been the best player at the tournament, should be a good game.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Know of anywhere to watch it online mate?

thanks

maythe-Red-bewithyou


Agree, Suso has been great. Pity the final is not against England. Poor defending let Greec win a game which was Endland's for the taking, although thier striker took the chance well. Thought Deulofeu also stood out for Spain. Spain will be a force to be reckoned with for some years to come.
Hope Suso gets some games this season, deserves it on his performances here.
northern git


You will get it on Vipbox mate, they will have a couple of links for it. I use it all the time. I watched the Haye and Chisora fight on it last night. Picture quality is fantastic.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Spain have played better when suso has come of the pitch Blair Gerard_Deulofeu has by far and away been the best player involved in every goal and scored a couple.


You can most likely watch it on firstrowsports online, I don't know if that website works there but here in the states I watch lots of sporting events on it.

phillyred


Spain have played better when Suso has come of the pitch? Did you not watch the Portugal game? He was pulling all the strings for Spain. Give the kid a free role for us just like he has with Spain and he will flourish under BR.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Ahh nice one blair completely forgot about this! Awesome.

Square tomato


 

 

15 Jul 2012 15:58:38
heard a very strong rumor that theo walcott could be our next signing, with maybe downing going eles were, as well as maybe charlie adam. wouldnt that be nice theo walcott as well as maybe adam johnson. that would be a very strong lfc side with great width. if carol stayed he would thrive. whats your take on this eds {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}


Both players don't fit as they don't work hard enough when they havn't got possession. Lazy old fashioned inconsistent wingers won't cut at LFC.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 15:47:21
Hi eds, just wondering if there is any chance off signing 1 or maybe 2 of these players? Adam Johnson, daniel sturridge, rossi, ramirez, dempsey and sinclair? Thanks eds:)

Norwaydude.
{Ed002's Note - Yes there is. Using the search function will give you the low down on each.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 16:31:46
Is there any word on dani pacheco getting a run out this season or is he getting loaned out AGAIN {Ed002's Note - There is nothing but I would doubt a loan is an option the club would find desirable.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 16:16:27
According to sites from Italy, the 11milliion fee payed for borini was too much. What do you think eds? And also there keeps being posts around the net linking Juan manuel Vargas to Liverpool if he can prove his fitness and lower his wages. ? Calumm


The fee was 7.9 mil u person! Dont always believe wot u read in da press! Hardy1892 {Ed002's Note - Impressively wrong and abusive to another supporter.}


11m too much? compared to 35m for carroll and 20m for downing??

majestic69


The fee was reported in the Liverpool Echo as £7.9m. I know that's probably the base figure and there's add ons. But generally people only mention the base figure.
kidmillions {Ed002's Note - The figure was more than that.}


Well come on then mr. knowitall, let us know how much it was?

{Ed006's Note - Ed002 has already said how much the deal was. No need to repeat it.}


{Ed006's Note - Ed002 has already said how much the deal was. No need to repeat it.}

Does it really matter that he has already said it? twice he was being a smartarse and could have just said it was x amount {Ed002's Note - It isn't just x amount - that is the point.}


To be fair - the OP was just asking about the 'transfer fee', as have many people - as you would expect on a transfer rumours site. Transfer junkies love talking fees.

We are all aware (well, I'd like to think so anyway..) that taxes, wages, agent fees etc are also paid - but it's just the basic transfer fee - or base fee - that people really want to know about - just to see just how highly valued a player is in relation to past transfers.

Whatever the agent is paid is not really relevant - they didn't ask for the agents fee/cut - and the tax would be scaleable in relation to how big the fee is - They just want to know the base fee.

I'd trust the Guardian's evaluation in that respect.

Deep down ed002 - you know you're being a bit of a smartarse though! don't you. lol.

BJH YNWA (but they kinda deserve it for coming here to ask you how much he cost - you'd really think they would have heard of the internet by now, considering they're on it - it has all sorts of information you know.... Maybe they think you ARE the internet ed...... that would explain it somewhat.)

ps - You know what I mean ed. lol. Come on now! {Ed002's Note - The problem is BJH that people do not understand the additional costs.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 16:09:39
Rumours going around twitter that Liverpool have had a 14 million pound bud accepted for Mertens. Wouldn't put much stock in it.redl4fe


Arnaldo Ferreira is journo who metioned it.redl4fe {Ed002's Note - As long as it wasn't on Twitter then it is bound to be true.}


Some person has changed his wiki already to being a liverpool player!bit sad really deano mcc


 

 

15 Jul 2012 16:08:18
according to Tom Werners Blog he has spoken to Demsey on the phone


And you have a link to this blog site?? after searching the internet he appears to have no site of his own or blog site, so that sounds like utter bull mate


 

 

15 Jul 2012 16:01:35
This might seem like a rant, But it's not, I just want to get a few things off my chest

Fabio Borini ~ A lot of people on here are saying he is a great signing, Dont get me wrong, He could be. But the facts are that we have just spent 11 million on a players who has played 33 competitive club games in 4 seasons. Everyone on here is saying its great we have an Italian international, He has only played 16 minutes of international football for Italy. so we should stop putting so much pressure on the kid. Lets see how he gets on this season.

Brendan Rodgers ~ Fair enough he has a lot of people on here who dont like him and yes he was shocking at Watford and sacked at Reading, But he done ok at Swansea so lets see how he gets on. What i will say though is, do FSG trust him? He said on Friday morning that he thinks Maxi would be staying at the club, A few hours later and Maxi has signed for another club. Is Rodgers being kept in the loop with transfers?

Incoming players ~ Why are we being linked with a 12m move for Dempsey? Yet again we would be over paying for average players. Kenny wasted over 100m on Downing, Adam, carroll, Coates and Henderson. To be honest, The 5 worst signings in a long time but we are stuck with them because nobody would try to buy them accept for a few teams going for Carroll on loan if stories are to be believed.

Missed targets ~ Siggurdsson, Diame, Martinez, Caulker, Davis, Kalou. Times are bad when a player like Daime turns us down for West Ham and Davis chooses Southampton over us. We cant attract even average players anymore.

Outgoing ~ There has been a lot of stories saying Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Suarez and Johnson could be leaving. Brendan Rodgers has said he has had a few postive chats with some of them but we all know what football is like and lets be honest, Rodgers promised us an exciting player and he signed Borini, who as i said, Has played 33 games in 4 seasons, So i wouldnt know whether to believe everything out of Rodgers mouth. He talks a good game, But so did Hodgson and Kenny. Kenny not so much, He was embarrassing in interviews but you could tell he loved the club. Anyways, Dont be too shocked if Agger and Suarez leave. I expect Reina and Johnson to stay, Not too sure about Skrtel.

Deadwood ~ Kuyt and Maxi are gone, If im honest, Spearing needs to go too, He's out of his depth and barely championship quality.

Next season ~ It's going to be our toughest ever season in the league. Chelsea have signed Hazard and Marin and will sign more. City will improve as will Newcastle. Spurs have signed Vertongen, Sigurdsson and Adebayor, United have got Kagawa, Powell and will probably sign Christian Eriksson. Arsenal have got Giroud and Podolski and will make more signings when RVP leaves. So when we look at the top 6's signings, Its hard when we are linked with players like Dempsey, Allen etc.

Next season will be very hard. Scott


Im not prepared to take any notice of someone who calls players "deadwood"


Of course these are tough times for LFC , no Champions League football and Premier League finishes between 6th & 8th across the last 3 seasons .

There are only certain players prepared to play for Liverpool at this moment in time . We cannot afford first rate household names and neither are they prepared to play for us at this moment in time .

I can only look forward to the potential development of LFC over the next few years because we are really starting from the ground up in 2012 .

EdWood


Missed targets?? How do you know Liverpool wanted them players (media perhaps) regarding sig, he could of been ours if we offered him more money but BR declined that so to me that's us pulling out of the deal. Fans should not listen to the media or we would have 200 missed targets every transfer window. I'm glad we didn't get any of them names on your missed target list, that shows me BR knows what he is doing


I class a supporter as someone who actually supports their team, You clearly do not.


Your crappy little child rant has more holes in than a seamstress's stocking. Why are all you people so pessimistic? Is being your friend like being in 24hour suicide watch?

The funny thing is I bet you'll be the one if we win first few games and look half decent will be calling us champions elect, ours to lose etc.

Bore Off

CQ


Complete person

as soon as i saw Coates in that list i stopped reading. Have you actually seen Uruguay play before, are you away he's in the first team squad and do you know he received young player of the last copa america. Some people are so friggin ignorant.

Also, KK is to blame for all this s*** Hendo is getting, we've bought a really good prospect in him and yet he had the 3rd highest number of appearances (i believe) last season, most of which were in an unnatural position for him, in a team which for most of the season had no defensive midfielder to cover his back.

Stop filling the site up with crap and be a proper fan or don't be one at all!

SideShowBob


We've bought Borini and Dempsey if we can get him would be a splendid signing.
Joe Allen also fits the bill. I estimate these three players costing less than £30M now that's what I call shrewd.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 15:54:14
Hi ed? Do you know anything about us approaching a 20yr old brazilian by the name of Firmino? And do you know anything about him. Thnks Shane


 

 

15 Jul 2012 15:49:55
Patrick Herrmann, Borussia Mönchengladbach, 21, can beat defenders, has awareness, and has defensive qualities, a bit like a young Kuyt, but natural wide player with a good first touch.. Maybe not completely like Kuyt then! (joke before anyone has a go, I liked Kuyt too, grafter) Herrmann fits the type of player BR would seem to like, wouldn't cost the earth, huge potential.

Would be a top signing. Unfortunately I doubt we will be in for him, but thought I'd put it out there and see what peoples thoughts are, or maybe if there is a slight chance!?
Thanks in advance,
RedAnt


Your right about the type of player and there definitely out there.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 15:45:08
Ed how fast are rondon, borini and lewandski {Ed001's Note - no idea.}


The olympics are not to far away we can get them to race {Ed002's Note - Egg and spoon?}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 15:45:03
We do not get any money from shirt sales as has been explained by the eds before and use carroll as a back up!! no mate carrol should be at the spearhead of the attack, the form he showed at end of last season proves he is a quality player.
huddz red

-------------------------------------------------

And for the millionth time, no LFC don't get any money from the shirt sales but FSG do through Warrior, a company they own. Werner said in the first few weeks of ownership that FSG intended to develop income streams by intrinsically utilising company's within the group. In this instance LFC bolstering warriors merchandising volumes.

Ozone


Huh? How do you figure FSG 'own' Warrior? Warrior is a subsidiary of New Balance which is a privately held company. {Ed002's Note - Ozone, the poster is correct, Warrior is simply a separate sponsor of the club. It is nothing to do with FSG.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 15:06:39
Hey guys,

After watching some Borini videos, some of his runs and ppsitioning reminds me of Ian Rush.

I can only hope. :)

Anybody else thinks so?

Singapore Red
YNWA


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:58:13
i am a little concerned that rodgers seems to only be going in for players he has worked with before
borini sigurdsson allen for example

and is not actually considering players that he hasnt yet worked with. is this a little blind spot on his part wanting to have men that he knows with him to the exception of possible other great talent out there.

i can see why maybe he d want players he knows he can trust as his first signings at a new club but feel he oughtn t close his mind to the alternatives that are out there also

tom1975 {Ed001's Note - he isn't closing his mind, just cherry picking the best of his previous players, they don't need hours of research to decide if they are good enough or not!}


Fair enough ed001 but he shouldnt just target players he already knows when they are other talented players around


It's less risky. you know you will get what you pay for unlike with carroll and downing. the club can't afford to throw away more money

redkenyan


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:54:32
I hope Liverpool splash the cash on a superb winger this year instead of buying Dempsey. Don't get me wrong he's a good player, but we really need a fast and skillful winger who will be able to take on defender and then either find Borini or Suarez, or then finish it himself.

I was thinking of a player who is like Nani or Sanchez. Definetly not a English player, and someone who has a good attitude towards the game, unlike Tevez etc.

This player (whoever it may be) may just give us the extra flair and strength to push for Champiobs League next year.

Is there any player we are interested in that would fit this bill ed's?

Thanks. LFCBilly {Ed001's Note - yes, Sterling!}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:42:46
Our centre midfield goes:
Gerrad>Lucas>Aquilani>Adam>Henderson>Spearing in my opinion.


 

 

14 Jul 2012 14:13:41
Hey Ed001, or any Ed really...

With Borini in, and seemingly like Dempsey will be too, do you think they will make up the ideal front 3 along with Suarez?

Also, considering the outgoings; Kuyt, Maxi, likely Bellamy & maybe even Carroll, the only others left are Downing & Sterling. Surely that 'mystery 4th signing' will be another winger/versatile forward?

Would just like to hear your thoughts really.

Addicted to this site, keep up the unbelievable work you guys/gals do!

Cheers

Stone YNWA. {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen enough of Borini to judge him or to know if he would make any kind of ideal to be honest. It does, on paper, look a good 3, all hard working, all capable of playing wide or central. I would expect another forward to come in, if we do lose another attacking option. I also expect Sterling to get his chances next season.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:32:17
is van persie worth a punt or is he going to man city

trvshp


Does anybody know exactly what Gerrard is on a week? Surely he must be the highest earner on our team so all these Van Persie, Tevez etc. can't just waltz in on higher money. When are you people gonna realise this and stop the nonsense posts...... Rant over


Put your house on him coming to Liverpool. I would but aguero cost me my house last summer.


Yeah, while your at it put Southampton to win the league

BADGER


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:30:43
Eds, I started this on rumours, but I think it belongs on banter.
I just had a a bit of a nightmare. With all of the simulation going on in football, we all see it and I'm sure we all hate it; I wonder how long it will be before professional football becomes like professional wrestling, where choreography replaces reality. I hope I am wrong, but when I see professional footballers pretending to have been hit in the face when they have suffered a shoulder charge, I wonder whether football has much of a future.
DJP


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:28:26
eds as far as youre aware in there any chance of walcott all ive heard is unreliable sources?
cheers {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of a move for Walcott at this time.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:26:07
Ed's here is a question for you, why do we keep being link with centre mids, surely we already have enough at the club and a winger is more of a priority. Also on the subject of wingers I keep seeing the same 3 come up Johnson, Ramirez and Walcott and the ED 02 has told everyone the situation with all 3 (unlikely). Is there anyone else (winger wise) who we have shown interest in. {Ed002's Note - I am a little surprised that there is no link to a winger. I think that maybe BRs sees Sterling as stepping up to the level of games played by Bellamy.}


Old school style a reserve shows promise giv him a shot if he plays bad put him back.im sure sterling and even pacheco should appreciate that type of manager


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:10:12
Villa keen on Carroll loan and bookies put Liverpool favourites to sign Walcott.

Cheers ed

Huxleypig


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:04:25
Christian Tello likely to arrive from Barcelona probably next week if everything goes according to plan. Expect a bid to be made soon.

Barca want to loan him out with an option to sell.
LFC confident of beating off Spanish and other suitors for his signature.

Whether Tello sign or not I expect one player from LaLiga to join the club this window.

Armando


Why would Tello sign for us if he has the choice of the top teams around europe?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:03:57
Heard from a lad with close connections within football that fulham have offered 15mill plus dempsey for Carroll.


If thats true buck has a real pickle on his hands i still say give him another shot just till jan even he looked like a tank of late jumping for the ball and having defenders literally kissing his ass tidy touch for a big boi to


I'd take that and spend the money on Maria's suarez Ramirez susaeta or affelay.


If that was true? It's probably the best offer we would ever get? But would Carroll go to Fulham? I think West Ham more likely?
kidmillions {Ed002's Note - I really don't see WHU as a viable option plus they are looking in good shape to take Maiga.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:03:06
Rogers should be a little wary of what he is saying at the minute, there will be a signing this week who will excite the fans = Borini! Trainspotting in Bangor is more exciting than that piece of transfer news! The lad might be a decent player, but knowbody really knows, an exciting signing he isn't. Rogers came across as a bit needy with that statement, trying to get the fans behind the signing. Just sign the players you want and leave it at that, comments like the one I have stated above merely puts more pressure on himself and the way he is dealing with Andy Carroll he could end up with a player staying who doesn't want to play for him after the amature way he is dealing with his future! There is enough pressure on Rogers without him adding too it himself!!!

Waro


I might be wrong but was it not a bbc journalist who tweeted that rodgers had said that off camera after the press conference? coz i dont remember hearing him say anything like that in the press conference i watched, he just said he hoped a signing would be made by the end of the week so how do we know he actually said anything about "exciting" but in all honesty i am excited, im excited about the season starting, im excited about seeing how we play under the new manager, im excited to see the new player(s) and im excited about the pre season games starting next week. Bring it on


Where did Rodgers say there was going to be an exciting signing? It was a journalist from the BBC who claimed Rodgers said that off camera, everyone knows journalists like to make up stories! You may not feel that borini is an exciting signing but I see it as a very positive one and Brendan has highlighted the fact we need a goal poacher with this signing! I for one am excited by it! St. Helen's Red


1) it wasn't a statement it was off camera

2) what he meant by exiting was the actual player's football when he starts playing not that he was a big name who would exite us before he had played.


Welcome Back!
I think you r the only steadfast moaner who leaves a name.

I was hoping that after how AC finished the season, you would be AWOL till September.
ONE CAN ALWAYS DREAM!

Corvin


I thought he said on the offical site that the fans are going to love him


Borini is about a exciting as a wet weekend in Bognor Regis with a Grannie


Sorry Corvin, I think will win the league this season and Borini will be top scorer in the Premership IN BRENDAN WE TRUST! That better for you?

Waro


I agree with Waro; I also think we'll win the league this season, think the time is ripe for change. We've had years of Fergispam, Wenger the Chavs and their constant new managers it can't go on forever a New Messiah has been foretold.
He will speak in a gaelic tongue and manage a team in red.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 14:02:00
Hi Ed i am very confused i have no idea what lfc doing in transfer market. Can u shed sum lite who r the players will sign for us. And which players will shown the exit doors.
Thanx.
Ur response will appreciated.
Keep up the good work. {Ed002's Note - You need to keep up with the posts or search on "transfer summary".}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:59:38
MYSTIC RED :
borini........£10,000,000...from roma.......SIGNED FRIDAY 13TH JULY

dempsey.....£7,500,000....from fulham
allen.........£10,000,000...from swansea
sinclair.....£5,000,000....from swansea
granero.....£8,000,000....from real madrid

start ticking them off straight from melwood very good source nobody else will be coming in this summer

as you can see contact was spot on with borini last wednesday please print this ed as trust me rest will happen over next 3-5 weeks.

You also said

i have very reliable source that tells me liverpool are pushing hard to bring in 4 more stars

EDEN HAZARD...JUAN MATA...XABI ALONSO..AND ROMANU LUKAKU

You also said

ill tell you now
IN
luuk de jong.....£12,000,000
nigel de jong....£8,000,000
gaston ramires..£8,000,000
rasmus elm.......£7,000,000
david hoilett.....£free
lazar markovic...£10,000,000
nathan redmond..£10,000,000
jordan rhodes.....£4,000,000
nick powell..........£3,000,000
max clayton.........£2,000,000
taye taiwo.........£free

OUT
fabio aurellio......£free
alesandro doni....£free
dirk kuyt............£2,500,000
maxi rodriguez.....£free
joe cole.............£2,000,000
alberta aqualani...£4,000,000


watch and be amazed.

Why do people bother ? You know F ALL


Definitely the most ridiculous post of the month ! Wake up from your dream


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:46:00
Just been in our chippy down the bottom end of County Road and you'll never guess who I saw?
Only Cavani and Nilmar getting a savoury cake..... I asked what they were doing here and they said...."we a come a to try dee feesh an dee cheep from a dee livpool, it grate so now me anda dee Nilma are moovin to a dee livpool...my agent he a fix dis week"

I said we didn't need them...we've got Andy Carroll...So he said "i off a to dee pee ess gee den..."


(Its that time of year again thought I'd get it started...love you eds!)

EvvoTheRed


Since when did cavani and nilmar speak polish?


The real question is, why were cavani and nilmar putting on italian accents? A smoke screen perhaps.


Were they auditioning for 'Allo 'Allo?

Redjinal


Never mind polish or italian either the guy can't spell or cavani and nilmar were speaking alien!

Lil red


Sounded like they were speaking Welsh. maybe they are off to Swansea....


I thought it sounded a bit Italian too. Sure you didn't mistake them for Mario and Luigi?

Cuchulainn's Hounds


I don't care what the others say.

I enjoyed the post.

BJH YNWA


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:45:15
Eds could you list some of the players that we are definitely interested In please {Ed002's Note - Dempsey.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:44:47
Ed002
Just a short question.. Are you a `she`
Pls dont ask me to use the search function. Kidding :-)

FaZzY {Ed002's Note - It depends how much money you have.}


26p and a chocolate eclair in my pocket. will that do ed? and do i get a dance as well?
huddz red


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:40:21
ian holloway writes a good article about andy carroll in sunday mirror . states br very brave to get rid of carroll rates him highly. the reason he states why br getting rid of carroll is that if he is on the pitch . players will play long ball to carroll so his system wont work . so to stop long ball carroll wont be on pitch so players forced to play tika taka . its a big gamble hope its correct i would offer carroll for dempsey and dembele hes another ray kennedy fantastic potential .

alan waddle


If (and this is a big if) that's true, then it's up to Rodgers to coach his players to play the football he wants.
You can't blame Andy Carroll for being good in the air. You can't blame him when Carragher lumps the ball 50 yards to him.

If BR can coach and implement a short passing game with supposedly lesser ability players at Swansea, shouldn't he be confident he can do the same at Liverpool?

I like Ian Holloway, but I think he's wide of the mark here.
If he's not and BR is genuinely concerned that this might happen then it doesn't say much about his confidence in his philosophy.

Joe


I'm more worried how Carra is going to adapt to tika-taka :)

cozinoz


Carrolls only good in the air once or twice a season.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:36:51
Hi all, Ed's I've got a question for you....
Who do you realistically want to see coming in this transfer window, not asking who you think will sign but who do you realistically want? :) (so no sarcastic answers involving Messi, Aguero etc etc please :P)
Thanks

LfcWes605


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:34:20
Is it just me that thinks the same people that are saying that Borini is not good enough and that we should keep Carroll, were slagging Carroll off last season and saying he wasn't good enough?
It's just so depressing. I reckon we have a fine young manager who has an eye for young talent.
Why can these so called supporters get behind the team and stop coming on here moaning all the time!


No not the same people because I never wanted Carroll and still don't particularly and I'm pleased we've signed Borini

Chris in Tamworth


Chris you will be proven wrong i think Carroll could turn out to be one best forwards in the premier league.
I personally believe he is staying and its all media rubbish.
Skurks


On what basis anyone could think Carroll is going turn into some kind of superstar is beyond me. he doesn't have what it takes at the top level. As illustrated by the clubs interested in him W/Ham, Fulham, Newcastle, Villa.
kidmillions


When Drogba was Carroll's age he was pretty much a nobody too - and when he joined Chelsea at first he couldn't hit a barn door with a Banjo.....

He turned into a fine player.

Have faith - I'm sure you've seen him on his better days and we're impressed. He just needs to perform like that consistently.

That his form has been improving is encouraging. Suarez, Carroll & Borini could form a quality combination imo.

I hope he proves you wrong (I'm sure you do too) - but there is no harm in giving your honest opinion on the matter. You too, could be correct - but

BJH YNWA


Posted that last one prematurely by accident... (got a little excited, you know....)

but you get the jist - was just gonna say to give him the year to show what he can do.

We've been burned on enough loan to buy deals - that's for sure.

BJH YNWA


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:32:03

I'm so glad we didn't end up with Villas-Boas. Seems he's taking every opportunity in the media to slate his former club, no class. Will enjoy watching his face if Chelsea happen to batter them next season.

I'm also glad we've taken a bold move on BR. We obssess over which players will come in and turn us into a title-challenging team, but it won't happen like that. Funds, time to gel etc.. I think the right manager and coaching is more likely to achieve this, and hopefully we've got those people in place at last. This site is constantly full of posts berating under-achieving players, and quite rightly in most cases. So, surely it would be better to get them all playing to their top potential than to just gid rid? After all, if UTD can win the league, or get 2nd with the likes of Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick and Park in their midfield it can't all be down to quality players?

Just to add - anyone who seriously suggests Darren Bent as an option needs shooting.


Woh, slow down.

Do you really hate Darren that much? He's one of your options for shooting? There are much worse people in the world to get rid of, but Darren Bent? Seriously?

Jolly Red ;)


Er.. no. It was just a slightly carp jokey way of saying please don't suggest him as a transfer option. Not to shoot him. But the person who suggests him. I give up.


Agree trying to blame everyone but him self i'm glad he didn't become are manager now.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:16:39
I have heard Roy Makaay is on the verge of joining the LFC coaching staff as a striker coach?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:16:33
The interest for Clint Dempsey is coming purely from the board. Brendan Rodgers does not see him as a suitable target for the club.

Cheers
KP


 

 

15 Jul 2012 13:11:11
Hello Eds/Macca, any news on carroll?

when will he back from his vacation?

Stichi


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:57:38
It must be troll mating season today, seems like they are all coming out from under bridges/caves/schools to post on here.

MIKEY


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:48:08
Eds, I will be watching the Reds in their first friendly this week in Toronto. Any chance a second signing will be complete by then? I realize a few names have been tossed about. Looking forward to seeing Borini on the pitch!

Cheers,

Canada Red {Ed002's Note - There is a chance.}


Afternoon all, is the friendly televised?
Thanks
JamieMK9 {Ed002's Note - RTFP.}


Live on lfc.tv online and delayed coverage on the tv


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:47:54
What is it with our club that we over spend on average players?

Downing 18m Adam 6m coates 8m Henderson 20m and Carroll 35m. I thought after last season we would learn our lesson but now we've just spent 11m on Borini and we're looking to spend 10m on Clint Dempsey.

I have no faith in FSG or Brendan Rodgers.

Mike


Wouldn't say 6 on Adam is over spending at all.. okay he had one season in the premier league and it wasn't his best season last season but off the back of his first season 6m was a bargin


Yet again the daggers are out even before a Game.Wot planet are you from.


The same was said about Lucas earlier on, look what happened to him! Give people time, it's not an instant success business.
solidair


8 Million for an 21 year old Italian International is good business, even if it doesn't work out we won't lose to much money and if he does well we get a good striker or profit in the future...

Same as Coates 6 Million for a young International is brilliant business... Hendo was overpriced but will be here for a while, Adam we will get that money back... Only ones were Carroll and Downing.

G BOX


Fool Coates was 7m and is a better CB than Jones who united got for £16.5m.

Coates was brought for around the same price as Agger and Skrtel and they both have become Worldclass at Liverpool. He was a Uruguay international at 20.

Borini hasn't even played yet and at 21 is a member of the Italy international Squad so considering we paid the correct fee.

and mike go to sleep and never wake up you irritate me.


Borini is a fair price but I hope we don't spend 10 million on Dempsey at his age. Maybe 5 million.


Only bad buys were Downing and Carroll
Think about it £55m wow!!
Sell both and replace with Borini and Dempsey
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:18:25
Any eds/posters fancy an ass kicking on FIFA ps3? :)
Lfc_jazz (don't act you lot don't play it)
Thanks
Jarred {Ed002's Note - I am sure some of the other Eds will play kiddie games with you.}


U might have met ur match, I'm FIFA king and I'll give u a good hiding if u want later on tonight. I'll be on it about 9 and invite u to a game.


I will add both of you and teach both of you a lesson.my user name is zaydan123


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:14:19
Due to having American owners, does LFC have any other interest (except Dempsey) in any other American players?
FowlerGod. {Ed002's Note - I only know of a couple of youngsters who have been looked at and it won't have been because of them being American.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:45:19
Eds, please tell me there's no truth in Carroll for Dempsey ? {Ed002's Note - Why not read the posts?}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:02:35
If we end up with Borini, Allen, Dempsey and Sinclair, plus we keep Andy Caroll, I will be a very happy bunny!

One experienced striker plus 3 brilliant well proven young players, thats a hell of a haul for leas than approx £25 million.

Recoup some cash on some fringe players and we have a top squad for less than £20 million.

happy days, lets go !

Tel 1949


Borini is not well proven, He has played 33 games games in 4 seasons. I hate the way people over hype our new signings and put so much pressure on them, He is far from brilliant, Lets give him time and see what happens, Luke


3 players who were championship players 2 seasons ago and a 30 year old one season wonder? happy days indeed


Why are fans of Liverpool football club happy with such average deals. These are Swansea calibre players not Liverpool!


Go for someone better than Sinclair. Perhaps affelay susaeta Ramirez or munian.


Omg Allen and sinclair with borini already signed do you want us to get relegated Allen is the most over rated player i have read on this website.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:01:45
Heard wanyama is getting monitored closely but probably not for this window, very solid defensive mid!

SPARKY


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:00:50
Hi Ed, Is the situation regarding Daniel Pacheco any clearer? {Ed002's Note - Not at all.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:00:25
Do the eds or Macca believe Walcott could be a real option if he decides not to sign a new contract at arsenal? I think he would be a good signing. Rodgers ould possibly improve his passing. I remember we was interested in him wen he was at Southampton but we couldn't afford him at the time, he is also a Liverpool fan. Cheers guys, keep up good work.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 12:00:07
Oh happy days, something else for people to moan about. First it was because we hadn't signed anyone, now it's because we haven't signed a "big name" player (and I'm not even doing the Jan" Vennegoor of Hesselink joke). People need to start realising that there isn't an "add manager" option in real life, you can't just sign whoever you want. Flipping heck this "we need to sign blah van der blahblah or our season is over before it's even started" attitude is really getting on my pip now. I need to go and sit in a darkened room now.

Lucas Lovechild


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:57:14
two more signings in allen and walcott, transfers out aqualaini finally spearing and carroll


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:56:32
Hi Ed's
I've got a question is there much probability that Liverpool will get gaston Ramirez he seems like a good player and he is only 21 {Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:56:01
First of all thank you Macca and ignore the idiot, second I think it is a mistake if we were to sell carroll, third I thought last year borini was such a hassle when we played against swansea and he is a good addition. looking forward to the rest of br signings looks like we are heading places. I feel optimistic to be honest.
Hibsylfc


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:45:21
More talk about Tello today after his contract extension talks broke down with Barcelona. His sellout clause is around £7million but his talent is worth much more than that. Nothing can be done until after The Olympics now, but Barca say they are loathe to agree a wage deal like his agent demands whilst he'll only be warming a bench at Camp Nou. Meanwhile we have a vacancy for a winger of this type of talent alongside Luis and Borini. I'm sure The Gaffer would love a player like this with his brand of football intelligence, and we've been monitoring him for some time now as well

Maybe, very quietly, BR has put the feelers in place for a late window swoop...

The potential for this next season is exciting me more than it has for many years now!

"In Brendan We Trust"

YNWA


He would slot into that left forward position nicely but maybe as a backup to dempsey? this will mean that Carroll and Downing would be gone.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:43:03
Assuming the Tello rumours are true, i would be worried that in 3or4 seasons if he is as good as people expect then Barcelona will come crawling back for him, they seem to do this often with their young talent. Fabregas and Alba spring to mind. Its almost as if they loan players out with a transfer fee. I just wonder if he is a Barcelona fan at heart and given the chance would he jump ship back to them? I know any1 may leave after their contract but surely building for the future u would want to try avoid this? I think in short what i mean is how committed to LFC's cause will he be? YNWA Waynos


But if the offer in a good offer then why not sell?


Barcelona would put a buy back clause in his sales contract to cover themselves


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:41:57
information purposes liverpool versus toronto live on espn 6pm next saturday 21 july . not certain of correct kick off time but coverage starts at 6 pm

alan waddle


According to my sky tv guide programme starts at 9 pm not 6, newcastle v fenerbache is on at that time on espn


Sat 21st Jul, Toronto FC v Liverpool, 21:00, ESPN / ESPN HD;
Wed 25th Jul, Liverpool v Roma, 23:30, ESPN / ESPN HD


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:28:59
Not a rumour but fact that Sterling will play a major role next season and BR is a huge admirer of his skills /speed....this alone will be akin to a major signing


Agreed!... and i really think that Brendan is going to like Suso too much not to have him train and play a part in the first team.

If you think of it suso is only a little bit behind Allen and that is just to do with experience and getting used to playing against men which suso can improve by training & playing with the first team.

plus I'd be disappointed not to see Toni Silva go on tour, he would be a very good feature on the right forward role.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:22:24
Eds,
Like most of the normal people who use this site, I am fairly sick of these halfwits asking the same questions over and over. I can only imagine what it is like for you lot. Would it not be for the best to simply not post any of these repeated questions? I mean just completely stop putting them up, as they offer nothing and these people refuse to scroll down even a few lines down. Only a suggestion, but surely it will save you time and perhaps train people to do something for themselves. No need to post this, but let it be known that the competent fans out there appreciate the efforts you make.

Thanks,
Golden Ale {Ed002's Note - It is a no win situation. If we don't post them they complain. If we post repeat answers others complain. If we suggest the search function there is a great deal of abuse from the vegetables. Sadly the Liverpool fans are the ones now suffering because of this.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 11:05:00
Listen. Liverpool FC are coming back. The slide is diminishing, the road to oblivion has been blocked. We are and always will be an astonishing club. It's nice to see us being responsible and professional in our dealings once again. Borini is a shrewd bit of business and I think it points towards a new blueprint being set towards the future. We, the fans are all entitled to our opinions of course, but let's try and remember we are the so called twelfth man, and as such we have a responsibility towards loyalty and need to develop a positive outlook otherwise we are on danger of becoming what we speak over the club. It is time for the twelfth man to rise up and grasp a hold of the future. Other clubs are happy when the twelfth man is struggling. But they are frightened to death that Liverpools twelfth man will wake up and take its place in the future of Liverpool FC.


Lol. Fully agree mate. Love the drama (thank god the road to oblivion has been blocked)

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:56:31
Are liverpool interested in Jack Butland, because Reina is not getting any younger and our second choices are not to good either (and there old aswell)


Reina is still quite young for a goalkeeper


This has to be the most childish post ever, next time sign it I told you so


Danny Ward for me, the lads pure class.
He will be an LFC star one day if he is given the chance.


Jack Butland isn't getting any younger either


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:55:44
is Liverpool really pushing to get Tello on board?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:49:57
Liverpool to offer 8 million for Clint Dempsey. If the deal goes ahead this could show the exit door to Andy Carroll.

Finlo


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:36:26
Dempsey signing maybe motivated by shirt sales and enhancing exposure in America, however 17 goals for Fulham and 4th highest goalscorer last season, weighed in more than Adebayor and 3 behind Aguero. Good buy at £9 mill in my opinion. In fact, Borinis a perfect solution for what we were missing last year and with the rumoured Allen and Tello, I'm becoming increasingly optimistic about the type of football Rodgers wants to get us playing and also our chances of getting into the top 4. I hope we keep Carroll as a plan B when needed, he started to show form and prove the doubters wrong (including me) towards the end of the season, he should be given at least another season.

Ozone


Optamistic with average players Allen is not good enough.


We do not get any money from shirt sales as has been explained by the eds before and use carroll as a back up!!!! no mate carrol should be at the spearhead of the attack, the form he showed at end of last season proves he is a quality player.
huddz red


Allen had better pass accuracy then Xavi and Iniesta at one point. That is no fluke, at his age with his potential, snap him up. Only a matter of time before cash rich clubs come knocking.
DaveyLiver


Allen not good enough? Fool. I'll take Craig Bellamy and Brendan Rodgers opinion over yours mate.


Andy caroll only score from head..infact he is good in the air...we wont play 4-4-2..with two wingers..instead we play 4-3-3..with good feet and skills required like suarez...caroll wont fit in this system..and there is no need to keep 35 mill player for plan B....i think we should sell him and get another player like pedro or tello...its sure..that BR want us to play like barca...and barca dont score goals from corners and from the air often....


All this talk of selling/loaning out Carroll is making me very nervous...

Though his style of play doesnt suit Rodgers blueprint, rumouredly, but I still think getting rid of Carroll will be another huge mistake in a long list of mistakes by LFC...

Accept it or not but Carroll's real value is def between 23-27 mil...May be even more...As he grows older and matures he will surely be better...He is international class and prbly the best after Shearer and Owen for England (I dont rate Rooney..He is just a very good EPL player..no more than that)....

Selling him now and letting go of one of the best talents from England would be a catastrophic mistake...

His link up play against Sweden, Ukraine and Italy was fantastic...Letting go of such a talent would be madness...

LiverBird


I agree Liverbird, risky game putting all our eggs in one basiket trying to play like the Spaniards. We saw Chelsea park the bus against Barca and how many bus parkers have we in the EPL. You always need a plan B and Carrolls it. I didn't see his potential when he arrived and openly admit I thought he was a waste of money. I believe he's put the shifts in on the training ground and the results were there for all to see towards the end of the season and in the Euros. He can only get better.

Ozone


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:36:08
I don't know why people are so against Clinton Dempsey joining at the age of 29...does no one remember how effective Gary McAllister was for us? For years we have been putting square pegs in round holes. It's about time we bought a player and played him in his correct position, with financial constraints as they are, if Brendan Rodgers has identified Dempsey as that man, then I am right behind him. Plus 20-odd goals in all competitions for a midfielder is just what we need irrespective of age or nationality. I would be delighted if we could get him. In Brendan we trust!


I agree. When you think that so many younger players could be used such as Suso, Shelvey, Sterling, Borini, Carroll, Henderson and if Allen comes in and others, it's better to have one or two slightly older heads around like Dempsey, Gerrard and with Carragher still around the squad. Esspecially when a couple of experienced players have just left in Kuyt and Maxi.
Even when Man Utd started playing their kids in the 1990s they still had a couple of more experienced players around them like Cantona, Keane, Hughes, Pallister, and Irwin. It makes sense.
I think Dempsey could be a good signing, he's fit for 29, adds a goal threat, is a good all round player, premier league experienced, good attitude and has the bonus of adding the American market to make some extra money. He's not gonna cost a bomb and with the American market thing and if we get two or thee good years out of him he could well help in getting us back into the top four, again helping financially we can then replace him with a younger, more expensive option.
Kev7


McAllister was a tried and true star here is a bloke that has taken until 29 to show anything.
His efforts to were at a small club so how is he going to handle the step up at 29?


Well said spot on,jay essex red for life red till dead


Thats is thing he doesn't need to step up he just needs to bring the form over to liverpool


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:34:35
Applying the Sig non-deal principle, anything over £5m for Dempsey and we should look elsewhere

The Squirrel


Lol dempsay is much more better player than sig, he is not xavi or alonso, i know but a regular starter, 86 league goals,27 international goals dampsay has a knack to score very imp goals. .. Though 29 stil has 2-3 yr in him, has no health problems. Can handle pressure if say SG is not playing. Dampsey is must. With so many young players carroll,hendo,borini,sterling,n on. We need guys like dampsey too..

Mayurr.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:33:56
hi Ed, not really a rumour as such more a question, Why is everyone so keen to sell pacheo because is he not meant to be the next big thing? Do you reckon he is worth keeping or not?
{Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:33:16
hey eds

do you think if we are really in for dempsey we will sign him before the tour?

thanks {Ed002's Note - Why not take the chance to read the posts?}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:33:00
With the departure of Kuyt and now Maxi also Aurelio there is not much speculation as to who will replace these players.
I think two decent wingers are a must even if it meant selling Downing to get one.


We have other players we dont have to buy one for one wth players sold


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:29:42
Hi eds,

Do you think FSG could sell liverpool in the near future if they think its in the best intrest of the club? {Ed002's Note - No.}


They are already considering it. Things did not go how they hoped. They would turn a good profit with a sale.


Its a joke right.you want a suger daddy yer,with all that the new owners have done for us fsg are the fella's that saved are club.what would you like the old owner's back.walk on walk on.IN LFC I TRUST.jay essex red for life red till dead


It would not surprise me.
Ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra bought Man City. Got things going then sold the club to his mates in Abu Dhabi.
The same thing could happen at Liverpool. Money No.1 - Business is business.

Plaa Baa


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:19:31
Sinclair.
Swansea will place sinclair on transfer market, he will not sign new contract and will be placed on market to recoup a fee 6 million.

Gingerviking

Just a hunch


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:09:44
G'day eds, I was just wondering but I read that you said LFC are going on tour Wednesday... How long does the tour go for and does this mean we won't be signing players on tour? Or will there still be negotiations and bids whilst on tour.. Really interested to know that!
YNWA
JS {Ed002's Note - Try the club site for details of the tour. Whether anyone signs whilst the tour is going on is something we cannot know.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:08:28
Saturday was an exciting day on this site their has been some debate that didnt involve players in or out which I have been eagerly reading.
Well done to Smithy and Blair Mayne who have made a break from the norm and reminded me how much fun this site used to be before we got seperated from other supporters except for those dark days of ultra nationalism by some other league supporters.

Kopping a feel (Red Will)


 

 

15 Jul 2012 10:06:37
Under Rodgers this coming season you can already see he is intent on setting us up to keep good posssession? Buts that's not enough as we found out last season? You also have to be able to win the ball back quickly and to do this, you need the right players to close down the opposition quickly and this starts from the front that's why Borini and Dempsey along with Suarez are perfect for us as they all close down quickly. Allen,Gerrard and Lucas also have this same work ethic.
Point is so although I would like some of the star names mentioned on here especially Ramirez but does he or any of them fit into the work ethic demanded. Much is said about possession/ tika-taka
football but as impressive as Barca are, they are mightily impressive in how quickly they regain possession of the Ballon.
So have faith in Rodgers ability to identify the right players for the style of play he wants to implement.
Back in our heydays Ian Rush was often described as Liverpools best defender as he closed down so quickly forcing defenders into giving away possession.
I have a good feeling about Rodgers and can't wait for the season to begin.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 09:38:46
Just a quick question as to how you pick which posts get on the site? I posted a long and (in my humble opinion) very credible post yesterday which was ignored, yet random questions, that contain no 'rumour' or fact/opinion get posted? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what happened to your post. If it contained a listing of a team check, the team pages. Was it signed then I might recall it. Always check the banter page as well as the transfer page. If there was nothing offensive or abusive then it should have made it through.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 09:16:43
Only ever posted once before as not someone who gets stuff for our club that often but through a friend based at JMU on a course swap to Madrid, there is a lot of noise at Rm that there are by serious negotiations about Alonso coming back to us. The crux is Modric going to RM. Alonso is willing to reduce wages but the price is the haggle. Seems likely to happen.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 08:29:29
This is for all the Charlie Adam haters :) He is going nowhere this season so get off his back and support him to the full.

Aquilani will be told to pack his stuff and f**k off to wherever he pleases to go. FSG are sick and tired of Aquilani screwing with the club and they want this money grabber off the wage bill but problem is that Milan are not willing to pay a transfer fee for him and there are no other clubs that are interested in him. LFC are busy talking to Aquilani's bullsh***ing agent and will tell him that the player has been released for free.

Once that has been done we will add two more players to the squad!


Adam is a not what we need to be up there with the best


Aqualani has been offered dirk kuyts old house for the coming season and as far as i am aware then he will be staying with us. i know the person who showed him rounds dirks house and he seemed happy enough.
SM91 {Ed002's Note - Do you think the only players sold are the homeless ones?}


You clearly have no idea about the current situation with aqualani. He got treated like dirt ever since he's been at anfield and obviously feels unwanted. I'd be glad if he stays because he's much superior to Adam. He's a flop and I have no respect for him especially after he back chatted Blackpool last summer.


Adam won't work,can't tackle and gives away free-kicks as a result.Although he can play a bit this alone may not be enough for BR's approach.''Pull your socks up Charlie'' !! B


Aqua treated like dirt by LFC??????? you Sir obviously have no clue what so ever, on how the money grabbing fund drainer has been treated, as you are talking utter nonsense....

STEVE

RED4LIFE


I think Adam will be used as a squad player. With Aquilani it says a lot when no-one is interested in him. To the person that feels sorry for him, we're talking bout the same player who faked an injury so that he didnt have to play for us. A player who booked his wedding day on the day that he should have been getting back to Melwood to meet the new manager to impress him and to work hard to get fit for the new season. He has no interest in being here.


Which injury sis he fake? the broken ankle one? or was it actually mascherano who didn't want to play for Liverpool?

Roy and Dalglish obviously both didn't want an intelligent creative midfielder and opted for a more SH!T Defensive playing midfield unit.

AND Aquilani met with brendan BEFORE THE TRAINING STARTED as he had a meeting with him to see what the club wanted to do. {Ed001's Note - look child, take your foul and offensive language and stick it where the sun doesn't shine, I don't appreciate having to edit it all out because you are too stupid to leave it out. Aquilani faked numerous soft tissue injuries and pulls under Rafa, to the point where he came out publicly to discuss him. Now grow up and realise that he is a pathetic little brat who let the club down badly with his terrible attitude and whining. By the way, he met with Rodgers because he had to, not because he wants to stay. Now run along and don't come back until you show some respect to the King, you petty little tool. And your other offensive rants regarding Aquilani have been deleted.}


If aqua was dead set against leaving surely he would rather not look around for somewhere to live? He is willing to give BR and his philosophy some time to prove itself!
SM91


 

 

15 Jul 2012 08:21:09
Hi eds

Just like to know if any of you know what's happening to King Kenny. I was gutted that things didn't work out. I miss the King. Maybe a job upstairs or anything else?

I fully support Brendan now and can't wait for the season to start.

Zoula {Ed002's Note - I imagine that he will retire, play a little golf, support his wife in her Charity work. At least for a while. I would not expect to see him back in management.}


I will miss him...Though we finished 8th last year, the football was up their with best I have ever seen LFC play....

Wonder what it was like when he was the manager with Barnes,Beardsley,etc around?

LiverBird


Kenny's got his own blog in the Mirror I think. Good to hear him still working and moving on with life after last season


 

 

15 Jul 2012 08:09:41
People here say that we don't have a great Manager b'coz we did not break the Bank like Chelsea did last Year. And u all know the result. They are the Champions of Europe this year led by a manager who was sacked by a Club like Wigan (No Disrespect).
Remember Sir Alex Ferguson who did not win any this in his first 3 years at ManU and was almost sacked. And today he is the Most Successful Manager of All Time in Premier League Era.
So have faith In Brendan Rodgers he might give us an instant success or not. B'coz rebuilding and implementing his Philosophy need time.
People say the club are targeting the players who are mediocre but did u know the players like Kompany, Vidic, Cabaye etc. before their current club.
So have Faith in BR, Players and LIVERPOOL!! {Ed002's Note - Chelsea do not have a manager sacked by Wigan.}


Hey ho ED002, why let the truth get in the way of an otherwise sensible post?..

BigBadBen


It was West Brom you fools. Roberto Di Matteo managed West Brom and was actually doing a good job then got sacked, I was suprised. It was a lot like the Chris Hughton sacking imo, both made little or no sense at the time.
KiwiRed


The ed is right. he wasn't sacked by wigan, he was sacked by west brom.

i should imagine if he (di matteo) continues to return his points average of last year in the league (1.5 per game) he'll soon be sacked by chelsea too. that amasses a 57 points total for the season.


He actually said by a club "like" Wigan.
He should of actually said a club like West Ham :) you see the similarities West Ham - West Brom.
kidmillions


 

 

15 Jul 2012 07:48:39
Eds the Players we are linked with are :
Clint Dempsey
Scott Sinclair
Dieumerci Mbokan
Luuk De Jong
Darren Bent
Gaston Ramirez
Juan Manuel Vargas
Cristian Tello
Daniel Sturridge
Giuseppe Rossi
Rasmus Elm
Moussa Dembele
Victor Moses
Edison Cavani
Matias Suarez
Alvaro Dominguez
Wilfried Zaha
Royston Drenthe
Raffael Caetano de Araujo
Dimitar Berbatov
Adam Johnson
Nicklas Bendtner
Luc Castaignos
Demba Ba
Hugo Lloris
Leandro Damiao
Javi Martinez
Jakub Blaszczykowski
Mehdi Benatia
Markel Susaeta
Ricky van Wolfswinkel
Nolito
David Texeira
Fernando Llorente
Roberto Soldado
Pablo Armero
Younes Belhanda
Ibrahim Afellay
Mark Davies
Ki Sung-Yueng
Nigel de Jong
Milos Krasic
Ryad Boudebouz
Ashley Williams
Joe Allan
Benedikt Howedes
Salomon Rondon
what are the chances of signing them??

Aneesh Indian Red {Ed002's Note - There are no links with most of these players Aneesh.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 07:42:33
Hi eds, just wondering who is our 2nd chioce DM currently.

KOPZRY {Ed002's Note - Lucas, Spearing, Shelvey, Gerrard - you tell me.}


Wouldnt say gerrard and shelvey are defencive midfielders to be hounest. Although gerrard can play anywhere and be good I'm sure rogers will play him in his favoured position.


 

 

15 Jul 2012 07:16:21


11 jul 2012 15:25:17
borini........£10,000,000...from roma.......SIGNED FRIDAY 13TH JULY

dempsey.....£7,500,000....from fulham

allen.........£10,000,000...from swansea

sinclair.....£5,000,000....from swansea

granero.....£8,000,000....from real madrid


start ticking them off straight from melwood very good source nobody else will be coming in this summer


as you can see contact was spot on with borini last wednesday please print this ed as trust me rest will happen over next 3-5 weeks

MYSTIC RED


On the 11th July I think my Schnauzer could have predicted Borini signing, but unlike your source my dog would have got closer to the value probably !

Red Til Dead


 

 

15 Jul 2012 06:07:34
Hi guys/gals/eds its seems that most fans are questioning ROGERS asking what has he won etc etc lets wait for a least six months before we hang him,I am happy we got rid of the last crowd who you ALL, voted in on PAST performances and you know where that landed us, so lets take it easy and try to enjoy the rest of the transfare window which we all agree is very stressfull & hope we dont get lumbered with any HENDERSONS etc.(godin)


Pleb, there is nothing wrong with Hendo, out of the 3 Brits bought last summer he is by far the best prospect. I take it from this I can deduce you were one of those calling Lucas after 12 months. Get a life Hendo is here for the long term.


Hi there you go again 16/20 mill for a prospect give me a break,for a few bob more we could have had some body who would make a impact right away.p/s if you had the life I have down here in the islands you would be pinching yourself by the hour.(godin)


 

 

15 Jul 2012 05:19:32
Hey ED's....is Carrol really leaving???can you please explain the situation??please respond even if you have already answered this ques......
Manoj the red {Ed002's Note - Or you could read the posts.}


Manoj u couldnt be bothered writing out the word "question"...........wat makes u think ed can be bothered repeating the same paragraph for the 100th time?

BADGER


 

 

15 Jul 2012 04:23:22
Went to the pre season friendly at Southport today and got speaking to Mark Lawrenson who was with the Preston VIPs (yes they have some and they turned up in an ellisons coach which made me laugh :) and I can confirm that the rumours are true, he is a bit of a card. The Steward. ( Lee Trundle played the second half)


 

 

15 Jul 2012 02:59:35
Ed pls whats the latest on a.johnson? and pls is there any possibility of signing a dm?thanks {Ed002's Note - I don't know if there is a latest on Adam Johnson right now - there is certainly nothing to report in respect of Liverpool. In respect of DM, there has been rumour of interest in Denisov but I have no confirmation. Aside from that Lucas will be returning so perhaps he could be seen as a new player?}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 02:02:36
Hi Ed's, at the moment, which wingers are liverpool looking at that you believe are realistic potential signings? South Aussie Red {Ed002's Note - Everything we know right now is as discussed.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 01:36:52
Eds and others, do you know when the England (or Euro) players are due back from holiday? I believe I heard somewhere they are due to meet up after the first friendly, is that correct? Are they all due back the same date? Do you see the AC situation (if there is a real chance of his departure) on hold until after he reports back?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - I really don't know when each returns. Nothing will be on hold per se. If anything concerning AC is going on he and his representatives will be fully aware of it.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 02:54:42
Hi all. Not a rumour, but on David Price the avid Liverpool heavyweight boxer's twitter feed he says that he will never be sponsored by the S*N. Class boxer and top bloke. Y.N.W.A


I've seen him do interviews with him mate, not saying that you are lying but money talks


There are something's which money can't buy.
Scouse_Pride


 

 

15 Jul 2012 01:54:34
I think some of the people on this site need to relax a little. For a start, how can we critisise Rodgers when he hasn't managed a single game for us yet? At least give him the pre-season tour for goodness sake! As for transfers, well we have bought 1 player so far- there is still more than 6 weeks to go! Just because Borini didn't cost £30m does not mean he won't perform. Cheap recent successes include Chicarito, Ba, Kompany, Cabaye. Yet Kaka, Torres and (so far) Carroll have gone for big price tags but have not performed to the standards they should be playing. Let's just support Borini, see what he's capable of and support him to aid his improvement.

Rafa's Purple Goatie


Football is all about money as we'll find out before christmas.


Exactly! I remember last season when Newcastle were storming the league so many fans were asking "why can't our scouts find these types of players?" ect ect the fact is we need to balance the books for a few more seasons to come. I'll be much happier paying for undiscovered talent than shelling out millions for players not worth it

Thanks
Jarred


So you want to fiinsh 5th like newcastle may as well finish 8th as what difference will it make?


 

 

15 Jul 2012 01:16:01
Been around the site for a couple of years now and every transfer window there has been a particular player asked about multiple times. I only mention it because I haven't seen his name so far, so I reckon I will break the ice on it, as ed02's replies always made my day. So eds. Heard anything about Neymar? {Ed002's Note - A few things but nothing involving Liverpool.}


Regardless of who signs Neymar, I can't wait to see him playing in Europe. (obviously not Utd though)

Joe


 

 

15 Jul 2012 00:59:00
Any news on Victor Wanyama of Celtic ,In his 1st season in Scottish Football he absolutely bossed the Midfield in almost every game ,scoring 4 Goals in 24 games while playing as a Defensive Midfielder , Hes an energetic player built like a bus with pace and good composure on the ball,due to Rangers omission to League 3 Celtic need to make up the money lost from old firm games against Rangers , 7 Million is the fee believed to be enough for his signature and at 21 and the versatility of the player(Can play CM,CB AND FB) He would be a real player for the future


Surely the money lost in old firm games will be massively outweighed by the fact that they will probably win the next 10 SPL's uncontested?


I lived in Glassgow for a couple of years, and Celtic fans will fill there stadium anyway as would Rangers, in the long run this could be good for scottish fooball I think, with no pressure on either of thoas 2 ( they should both win their leagues with ease ) they can now take a few years to develop there youth programmes.
It will also open up a chance in europe to another team up there for a while.
When our owners came in and said were looking at a 5 year plan to be the best again, I bought into it, and I'm willing to wait if I see a young team been put together to really compete. It's why Dempsey at 29 worries me, as he is not going to be cheap, but i'm sure BR has a plan.
RNred


When only 1 per cent of the fans can go to watch the game compared to the 118,000 who could before then thats alot of ticket revenue lost.
Plus they dont have their top players anymore lost sponsorships due to rebranding it all adds up to a nightmare for Rangers.

So dont be so sure they will just bounce back from this its not certain by a longshot.

Kopping a feel

Got a Celtic fan of an uncle who hasnt stopped skipping for weeks now


 

 

15 Jul 2012 00:45:46
Ed02 you have always given us depressing news which I know many find annoying but I do respect you because you do seem to be right nearly every time. My question is related to our squad and I would like your honest opinion. Do you really think that players like borini Dempsey and Allen are better than what we already have? Will they really improve our team? {Ed002's Note - Much was always expected of Borini, so yeah. Allen is well respected and BR knows him, so we have to respect the maager's opinion. Dempsey has delivered before.}


But the question for an ed that supports the team is do you want these players here or do you think ee should be going in for better players?

Slowpoke


"'WE have to respect the managers decision!"

Do you mean 'we' as in 'we the fans'!

ED002! Have you seen the light!

BJH YNWA (You probably know more about us than you do Chelsea by now anyway - take the plunge, it's never too late!)


"'WE have to respect the managers decision!"

Do you mean 'we' as in 'we the fans'!

ED002! Have you seen the light!

BJH YNWA (You probably know more about us than you do Chelsea by now anyway - take the plunge, it's never too late!) {Ed002's Note - "We" as the folks reading this.}


 

 

14 Jul 2012 23:39:54
hey ed heard anything on jamil adam? Heard he was backup choice after Borini, just wondered if we still have any interest in him.

Cheers {Ed002's Note - Nothing at all. Sorry.}


 

 

15 Jul 2012 00:10:18
Only a high profile, hard faced, hard arsed, SOB manager can save us.
Capello now works for the Russians.
Welcome to the world of the Premier League drop zone.


Yep, understand it's tough for you being a Spurs supporter

cozinoz


We won't be in the drop zone come season end but we won't be top 4 either somewhere between the two unfortunately

Rogers & FSG will not illuminate a bright future

how can they

Rogers has limited experience and forget aabout his brand of football it only got him 11th last season 3 places below Kenny

FSG are not wealthy enough to own LFC

Like it or not thats the way it is


On the positive side FSG will sell up shortly and hopefully we get a rich owner and kick on from there

Selby Haunted House


Fsg are lfc at the present so get behind them and support every thing that is lfc.
ynwa red mick tag


You can support while still seeing the bleedin obvious, can't you?


 

 

14 Jul 2012 23:59:42
Eds mate anything on Joveic,sturridge and ramierez {Ed002's Note - Nothing at all.}


 

 

14 Jul 2012 23:59:10
I talk to many supporters from other teams. They are no longer in awe of us. Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham are considered big teams. We are not ! How has it come to this?
Rodgers gets the reply, who?
He is not taken seriously. Take off your blinkers and listen to what other supporters are saying in honesty. You won't like it.
A mid-table team that wants to get rid of its best players.
We are no longer taken seriously, our actions have done it.
It is all about perception. Ours is not good.
Wake up Liverpool !


Oh well, I will support Liverpool whether we are Champs or Chumps; why not join your friends and go support City or the Scum?

Ben


So what's your point? if lfc played in the conference and were hated by the whole footballing world i would still watch us week in and week out. Why would you care what your "mates" think of us? we are still the most talked about and most successful team in the country.


Hmm, and here I was thinking putting the ball in to the back of the net more times than the opposition was the way to beat teams. Thanks for the clarification!

DownUnderRed.


Who gives a s**t.
So fed up of reading whiney posts like this. Not even played a pre season game but we are already doomed and the season is lost. For gods sake grow up and stop throwing your toys out of the pram!
Paul Mc


Oh no other teams fans are slagging off liverpool, i for one am appaled and have never heard of one teams fans slagging off a rival team. now who told you BR wanted to sell our best players,
because if you have some inside info then please share it. who cares how people respond to rodgers. if you told me that
harry redknapp, who relegated nearly every team he managed, would lead a 20th placed spurs side to 3 top 5 finishes in a row then i'd have laughed at you. spurs fans werent happy with the appointment, just as newcastle fans weren't happy with pardew so there are morons like you in every fan base. If you have nothing good to say then don't say anything at all.
derryred


Then support those 'big' clubs like your plastic mates
then.

KOPZRY


This is hilarious! Why would we care what supporters of other teams think of us?! It's like being at school and worried another kids gonna laugh at us for wearing the wrong trainers.

Who gives a toss, your mates supporting other teams obviously winding you up since they know you fall for it every time. (Just make sure you don't wear your Hi-Tecs down the pub or you'l be in for the ribbing of your life next time you see them)


This isn't the first time we've hired a relatively unknown manager.
Once upon a time we got a bloke in from Huddersfield, and he introduced a system of play that he called 'pass and move'.
Maybe you've heard of him, a Mr. Bill Shankly.

Redjinal


 

 

14 Jul 2012 23:47:22
I think at this stage the players brought in could end up being Borini, Dempsey, Allen and Sturridge. What ye think?
The Gooch.


Those are exactly the players I have in mind and they are as good as we could expect at this time I reckon .

Those players would really add something to Brendan Rodgers Liverpool at this time .

EdWood


Really don't want Allen he is so over rated i see stupid people on here comparing him as good as Xavi. they need to get a life and get off fifa.


I hope the gooch will do the buisness today for kerry


 

 

 
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