Liverpool Banter Archive January 15 2017

 

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15 Jan 2017 22:44:27
Just want to say well played Simon Mignolet. I posted on here that I didn't think he should have been dropped when he was, because in the games he played he did nothing wrong Since he has come back in he has done very well for us, and today saved 2 certain goals. Just hope he can carry on in the same vein

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15 Jan 2017 22:41:48
Boys not a Liverpool supporter but why didn't coutinho and sturrudge didn't start today was baffling, if you don't want sturridge send him down to the spurs

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15 Jan 2017 23:43:58
Team was picked to stiffel Carrick and went well until HT and then they reverted to using the long ball from the back because they have 0 creativity anywhere on the pitch.


16 Jan 2017 01:20:56
Unfair to say they have zero creativity. They created a couple chances in the first half that without migs could have swung the game easily


16 Jan 2017 03:49:51
They were silly mistakes on our behalf not creativity from UTD, Mourinho knows what he has to do to get results hence utd resorting to the long ball. It's a fact look up the stats and tell me where the creativity is in that?

As for the goal we conceded well I think klopp put it best.


16 Jan 2017 04:41:24
You`re right, Faith. However, their attacks and build up play were not consistent enough cos as Savvy says, we played to stifle them in midfield and the press sifled their buildu play from the back. Also, Can did a job on Pogba too as his athleticism, energy and size matched up well with Pog, making him useless the whole game.

The fact that they couldn't deal with our press (Mou said so as well, they resorted to hoofball and bypassing the midfield. This is where Matip would have helped but unfortunately, he couldn`t play.

We created more chances than them and had moshots on goal than they did too so all in all, a very solid performance under the circumstances


16 Jan 2017 06:28:33
Hamilton

Where did we create more chances than UTD? They had two clear cut chances in the first half and a couple in second half as well.


16 Jan 2017 07:13:18
We created 13 chances Harry. they created 9. that is where mate


16 Jan 2017 07:44:47
How many were on target and clear cut goal scoring opportunities. I don't think we tested DDG enough comparing to Migs was just brilliant on 3 occasions. A solid point is what we set up for and we got it. I am happy but stop over hyping!


16 Jan 2017 10:01:15
The raver. coutinho didn't start because he has just come back from 7 weeks out and it's was always going to be an intense game with them kicking us every time we played through them. And Seeing how firmino hustled there backline all game tirelessly showed why he is preferred to studge. I don't want him to leave I want him to get sharp again but I fear the injuries have drastically affected his acelleration. I'd swap you studge for dembele ๐Ÿ˜‰


16 Jan 2017 10:06:30
Coutinho unfortunately wasn't fit enough yet, you could see him huffing after just 10mins and no way would he have lasted a game of that intensity for even 60mins, he would have slipped up defensively.

Sturridge was left out because Firmino sets the tone on the high press from the front and frankl I agree, particularly away from home. I personally would have played Sturridge out wide but Klopp perhaps wanted Origi upfront for his pace and aerial ability. He seemed to target Origi from the get go as an outlet ball from the back when our keeper/ CBs had no other option.


16 Jan 2017 20:41:17
Harry as lfcdiamond said, we had more shots than they did, more shots on target than they did (4 to 3). Those are the stats. Now if you want to say which ones were more guilt edged, that is a subject of opinion cos I could also say that apart from the free kick, Migs made the saves he was supposed to make as they were right at him. They had all their creative players on the pitch, we did not. Either way, not overhyping. Just calling it like it is. Isn`t that what you always say?


15 Jan 2017 21:04:58
Forgive me if this is a stupid question Ed002, but as Matip wasnt actually selected in the final Cameroon squad for the AFCON how was there any question around his eligibility to play?

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{Ed002's Note - Assuming the Secretary informed FIFA that the player had retired from International football and was not avaialable for selection there should be no problem.}

15 Jan 2017 21:53:42
Would it his retirement status not be irrelelvant due to the fact that they didn't select him. Surely if they had been under the impression he wasnt retired and not injured they would have selected him in the finalsquad? Or am I just nit picking?


15 Jan 2017 20:49:48
Overall given the loss of the 2 defenders before the match, a point is a good one.
Remember, this talented, expensively assembled squad we played against are on a hot run. They are playing without the hindrance of the offside rule, yet they are still unable to beat us! If these decisions even themselves out. then bring it in!

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15 Jan 2017 22:11:32
I'd have settled for a point before the game to be honest. But, with not long left when they scored, it was tough to take, though probably a fair result in the end. They wasted a couple of chances, mainly from our mistakes, and we had just a few chances that were off target or straight at De Gea.

Migs was very good, as was Hendo. Apart from some great technique for the goal, Zlatan was quiet and Pogba should be buying a round for the entire crowd after that performance given what he cost (yes, it does matter what he cost if you're scraping the cash to afford to watch and he performs like that. )


15 Jan 2017 23:34:10
Playing without the hindrance of the offside trap ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚


16 Jan 2017 04:48:43
W/ O the linesman`s decision (which is beginning to wind me up, these ref decisions that Utd seem to have been getting), we prolly would have won cos they were getting disjointed and desperate especially if you bring on Fellaini as a battering ram. If hoofball is all the "greatest manager in the world" has to offer us with the most expensive squad in PL history, then I fear for him and his bunch of millionaires.


15 Jan 2017 20:57:54
I'll take that despite their late goal - a point against an in form Utd and we looked like we were really up for the fight and also moved the ball quicker through midfield. I also thought we were better with Firmino upfront. Firmino just seems to bring something to our pressing game and you could immediately see him and Coutinho starting to click again.

Both sides created good chances and probably a fair result. Only 7 behind Chelsea and hopefully with Coutinho and Hendo back we can start to find a bit of the form of earlier in the season.

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16 Jan 2017 04:53:21
Firmino is out of the world. The guy runs and presses with the same high intensity and energy levels from the first minute till the last. The guy reminds me of Cafu, the legendary Brazilian RB who played as if he had two hearts (Fergie`s words) up and down the right flank through out his career. His perf today shows why Studge will never play ahead of him in games where the press will be crucial.


{Ed025's Note - hes a good player hamilton, i dont know about "out of this world" but hes a grafter all right..

16 Jan 2017 07:44:31
he would be out of this world IF he could finish HR, what a great chance he passed up when couts put him through, his current record is 1 in the last 12 and that's not good enough mate, sturridge may not work as hard but at least he can finish, thankfully countinho is back and as we saw yesterday he makes such a difference to us.


16 Jan 2017 08:31:51
He will be out of this world if he learns to take his chanced


16 Jan 2017 10:55:41
A lot of people keep saying Sturridge can finish and would have finished this chance or that, but in all honesty we haven't seen that Sturridge for a while, walks around the pitch, spends far too much time outside the box, makes no runs in behind any more, thinks he can take everyone on and twist and turn out of trouble only to lose the ball, and predominantly shoots from outside the box. When was the last time we saw him run full pelt, with or without the ball? This has nothing to do with
Unfortunately I think the injuries have taken their toll on Sturridge, this isn't a Sturridge bashing post, it more a concern that we may have seen the best of him, hopefully he'll prove me wrong, but his recent performances have left me feeling underwhelmed and frustrated and I just don't see him being around next season.


16 Jan 2017 13:58:20
If you could mix the 2 of them together.

Carlsberg don't do strikers.


16 Jan 2017 20:44:35
Maybe I did not clarify my post. I meant Bobbie is out of this world regarding his unbelievable work rate and ability to maintain his high energy levels for 95 mins hence, the comparison with Cafu.


{Ed025's Note - i will have that hamilton..

15 Jan 2017 20:26:17
8pts away at Chelsea Arsenal Spurs and United decent total if you ask me . We just need to get through the next few weeks then we should have our strongest team available again for the run in . Exciting times ahead for us Reds. The academy is looking like it is going to save us millions and we're showing great spirit and fight on the pitch . Hopefully this will be our year but if not it's not too far away

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15 Jan 2017 21:12:15
As much as I agree with the sentiment of this post the one thing I hate is the saying just could be our year


16 Jan 2017 07:47:49
one game at a time please lads, Plymouth Wednesday followed by Swansea Saturday lunchtime. Trent Alexender Arnold I thought did very well and can be well pleased with his display.


15 Jan 2017 20:19:26
Finally.

Mignolet. Real big step forward lad.

3 years for that game. One where if he wasnt in goal we would of lost. Havent really been able to say that.

Keeo it going!

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15 Jan 2017 20:28:47
Agreed, he was nothing short of fantastic today, really great to see some of them saves


15 Jan 2017 20:32:41
Still rolling the ball out in stoppage time was a reminder of his mental lapses. Other than that, he was outstanding.


15 Jan 2017 21:22:27
He's done this in the past. Couple of great games then a complete brain freeze. Hope he's grown out of it, he did well today ๐Ÿ˜„


15 Jan 2017 22:41:13
Tbh ron i can't really recall mate.

Hes had games where he's made saves he should make but usually concedea straight after. Today was an actual good performance. agree on yhe mental lapses but over all made some outstanding saves. mostly sharp on his feet. big presence.

He has to do it now over atleast the next 10/ 15 games before we all start going mad though.


16 Jan 2017 10:10:12
Cracking game, and the last roll out was Firmino not Migs, Firmino was yelling at him to give him the ball. Good to see him step up with some pressure and looks more vocal and confident in himself.


15 Jan 2017 20:14:43
So, do we field a complete 2nd XI for the Plymouth game so the regular XI get a weeks rest before Swansea, even if this results in an upset and FA cup exit?

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15 Jan 2017 20:19:59
Yes league is much more important than the fa cup


15 Jan 2017 20:21:18
The youngsters should see through these types of game for any chances in the first team. Play youngsters against Plymouth and rest the seniors.


15 Jan 2017 20:23:56
I think the youngsters need to be given this opportunity they have to be given games and the first team are coming into the make or break time of the season.


15 Jan 2017 20:43:06
Think sturridge will play might give coutinho an hour as well and hopefully matip


15 Jan 2017 20:44:04
No. Matip needs game time, Sturridge also. Maybe a few others to mix with the kids.


15 Jan 2017 20:49:17
Think sturridge will play maybe coutinho for an hour and hopefully matip


15 Jan 2017 22:26:41
Migs was always a decent shot stopper. It was his uncertainty at crosses and distribution on the ground that led to mistakes been made.

He seems to be thriving at the challenge from Karius day in and out in training.

He was brilliant today and contributed to a well earned away point at Utd.


15 Jan 2017 19:39:27
....

Henlow red

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15 Jan 2017 19:26:13
Can't believe the comments and player ratings I'm reading. Entertaining game between two really good sides. Mignolet deserves credit, Lovren and Henderson had great games, Gini was solid and TTA and Milner coped well. Lallana was out on his feet by the end, Firminho was ok, Can better than his last 2 games. I'll take a point at OT every time but agree with Klopp, that was 2 points dropped! So proud of our team!

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15 Jan 2017 20:13:42
Spot on with your assessment, Jari. The goal we conceded was very unlucky cos Valencia was offside on the first cross. The boys did us proud. We were up against it from the off with Clyne, Matip and Couts not starting as well as TAA going against Martial. We took their best shot on their patch and they still should have lost. I know we conceded late and it`s disappointing BUT we were brave, solid and showed character, grit and determination. Well done, Klopp and the boys!


15 Jan 2017 20:59:18
Can was uch better, broke up lot of attacks and he was better than Gini. I think gini was good on the ball, but he wasted a lot of opportunities. But the game really showed how important Hendo is. Him being present let's the other midfielders shine.


15 Jan 2017 18:41:32
Tight game, this is how I saw it from our end:

Mignolet - Good for the most part. Number of good saves, claimed most crosses well and seems to have improved his dsitribution. Still makes odd decisions at times but he played well tonight.

Milner - did well, was kept busy by Mhikitariyan all night but kept on going, scored a pen and gave us some badly needed leadership. Foul on him by Rooney was nasty as well - that is wasn't even a yellow was beyond belief.

Alexander-Arnold - let's face it the kid struggled a bit tonight. He looked flustered, was making poor decisions (due to inexperience and nerves most likely) and got caught in possession too. Having said that, despite Martial getting the better of him first half he did not have much of a look-in second half, the lad improved considerably. Overall he did alrite given it was his full Premier League debut, hopefully valuable experience he can take with him in future.

Lovren - was very good. Commanding in the air (in our box and theirs) and defended very well. Got a really harsh yellow card but, apart from that, did little wrong. I'm not sure who was at fault for the goal as my stream died - if anyone can enlighten me I'd be delighted.

Klavan - wasn't great to be honest. Looked shaky, got caught out a few times and was pretty poor when in possession. He defends pretty well but has lapses and he had a few tonight (which were not punished) .

Emre Can - a mixed game: some of the usual wayward, brainless passing but definitely more thrust in terms of getting up the pitch. Was also much stronger in the tackle and provided steel in the midfield which we needed, particularly second half.

Henderson - as he does so consistently well he just makes us tick. In defence he provides good cover, good leadership and a cool head - in attack he provides slick passes and tidy possession. What he does seems innocuous but it contributes a lot to our success, it was another good game for him.

Wijinaldum - if we ignore his glaring miss in injury time (which might be difficult) then you could say that he was average at best. Give the lad credit though he pops up into some dangeroius areas - he really has an eye for a run/ positioning - but his finishing is woeful. His decision making in terms of passing was also nothing special tonight. He wasn't terrible but he can/ should do much better.

Origi - caused problems with his pjhysicality and directness but seemed to be too far away from goal to utilize is most times. Issue for me is over his decision making and finishing. He did pretty well though and made their defenders lives uncomfortable.

Firmino - his energyu levels and closing down off the ball where, as usual, great. But his attacking prowess grew as soon as Coutinho was on the pitch. He should of done much better with the chance he had if truth be told and, on more than one occasion, I was annoyed with a daft flick he tried in a far from ideal area. With Coutinho back to fitness I hope we see the best of Firmino again.

Lallana - tough night for him. The wide positions just don't suit him and he struggled to make his prescence felt. He had moments and, as always, his class on the ball is unquestionable. I'd like to see him back in that midfield 3 again though, if we face overly physical opponents (like those tonight) then Emre Can is arguably the better option.

Coutinho - Lifted us the moment he was brought on. Excellent passing, good touch and technique, just a menace for defences to try and deal with. His fitness (and hopefully maintenance of his fitness) will play a big part in the second part of the season - when Mane is back we will start looking very tasty again I fancy.

Klopp - in general he got it right. A draw was probably not unfair on the balance of play but we could have won that game on another day - and United fans would probably be able to say something similar.

Ref - only bone of contention for me. There was a couple of pretty shocking tackles from United (Rooney's on Milner a favorite; Pogba's choke on Henderson) which were just not fairly punished. Rooney's was a potential red but at least a yellow but got nothing. Pogba should have got a yellow for his handball, a yellow for whatever that was on Henderson and a couple of other incidences. I felt like United were enabled to play a rough, aggressive style by e ref who simply failed to punish their players for their rough, over zealous play. A ref who yellow carded Lovren for a perfectly good tackle that had no malice what-so-ever. Having said that the result was certainly not influenced by the ref - on balance it was fair and, given both teams form, I'd of taken a draw before the game. We move on to the next challenge.

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15 Jan 2017 18:49:06
Nice Seano, but I don't agree with the Can comments.

He's a dangerous player and we need someone else there.

Still, he's got a future, but for me, at the moment, it's on the bench.

Nice point for us there, and proof that we can still match the teams at the top.

Onward again after today me thinks


15 Jan 2017 18:57:42
Was it me or the minute Coutihno stepped on the pitch you could see the return of a great bromance w/ firmino? Seriously. you see how we tick much betters with couts and Firmino center. Yes. HendoS return was equally important.


15 Jan 2017 19:04:41
Decent analysis. The team was never set up to score goals. The midfielders in between Can and Wiji has 4 goals in the league. The front three tried their best but they hardly got any support from midfield. Lallana desperately need to be dropped into the middle. He needs actions infront if him not himself. We miss Coutinho. The lad is supreme quality.
United had some good chances and on another day Micky would have scored 2 and Pogba 1.
A point is exactly what we set up for tonight.


15 Jan 2017 19:10:54
@Davey - In games that require more physicality i'd play Can over Wiji is what I meant to say, Lallana should be starting as 1 of the midfield 3 every game.


15 Jan 2017 19:53:56
2 things in that mate:

Firstly, while I don't believe the ref had any form of bias, they should have been playing over half the match with 10 men and Pogba didn't even get a yellow. That is a massive influence on the game and it was only a ridiculously good save by Mingolet that stopped it being even more of an influence, because they very nearly scored as a direct result of the headlock being punished.

Secondly, Lovren did not have a good game. He did some good stuff but he was poorly positioned several times without any good reason, and twice played poor back passes that they very nearly scored from (and once should have) . Every time Lovren had time to think today it went poorly and that isn't good enough.


15 Jan 2017 20:23:15
Don`t blame Klopp at all for setting up the midfield to be more work-man-like. Utd play a physical game in midfield and we needed all our physical players on the pitch to match them. we were missing players and in a sticky patch so you have to make sure you don`t concede first (which we did not) and then go from there.

Also, we went there first, not to conceded but hit them on the break whenever we press hem and we did press them well in critical moments hence, the chances we created. The strikers already knew they wouldn`t have a lot f chances and would be needed to work hard especially, out of possession especially on the flanks.

We needed a solid team performance to get a result and we got that even tho, a win would have been more welcome. Had we won, no one would have cared how we set up. Take the point and we move on.


15 Jan 2017 20:26:55
The ref was fine, we nullified unt but just couldn't quite hold them out, decent point and move onto Swansea. Only 7 away games to go.


15 Jan 2017 20:34:33
Hamilton

What is this physical football you are talking? Lallana is a foot longer than Herrera while Carrick is slower than a tortoise. If you press well you don't need to be a wrestler on the pitch. The only way United would have had any authority on the game was going direct long balls which got them the goal. Can and Wijnaldum overkills the midfield and you could bench one for a different kind of a player.
You clearly don't understand the game. We scored 30 odd goals without being PHYSICAL.


15 Jan 2017 21:01:29
If you see wiji and can in midfield together you can basically guarantee we won't create much. Wiji is physically very good and decent movement but on the ball seems to play it overly safe and as a result he passes it backwards from promising positions way too often. Can just loses the ball too often with wayward passes. Great to see Hendo back and combative as usual. Love seeing him get stuck in to Pogba.


15 Jan 2017 22:22:51
The ref was not "fine". Herrera had more than 2 yellow card offences, Ibra led with his elbows on every header, Rooney had studs up against Milner and Pogba should have gone.
If the FA don't act retrospectively it is nothing short of cheating.


15 Jan 2017 22:27:46
Wiji (If that's what we're now calling him? ) Has been much much better this season than the majority on here give him credit for.

He is simple in his play which is fine when you have four players ahead of you being creative.

His understanding with Hendo and Lallana has grown in that Can is very much the back up player to those three.

If those three play together then I'd back us to win most games


16 Jan 2017 05:16:28
That rich coming from you, Harry? Have you read your own posts? Utter nonsense. Klopp played both Wiji and Can vs City in a bid to outwork and press them in midfield n he did the same today especially with Can who stifled Pogba into having a poor game duo his ability to match up with Pogba`s size and athleticism. Mentioning Carrick and Herrera is pointless as I never referred to them in my post so learn to rea next time. In both games, we had the upper hand physically which allowed the press to be so effectively executed y Lallana ad Firmino.


15 Jan 2017 18:30:54
Well done to Simon Mignolet today, he had a great game

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15 Jan 2017 18:42:43
Completely agree. I've been one of his biggest detractors, but credit where it's due. He had a very good game today


15 Jan 2017 19:02:15
First MoM performance from him.


15 Jan 2017 19:06:15
The save of Ibr's free kick should be easily inside top 5 in the league.


15 Jan 2017 19:44:44
Not like you to exaggerate harry.


15 Jan 2017 20:15:27
Looking like we've got two good goalies now. Maybe we should give credit to achterberg ๐Ÿ˜„


15 Jan 2017 20:24:56
Don`t know about that, Harry cos the shot was right at him along with the one against Mikhytarian. Either way, he was very good today. Solid team performance as well.


15 Jan 2017 20:40:28
He did great right up to the 90th minute when we were under the cosh, and defending a corner/ free kick and while the whole MU team were in our half he rushed a roll out to one of our players already under presure, who got the ball taken off him and they nearly scored.
Brain dead decision, how can a pro of his age, experience make mistakes so fundamental that even I can see it.


15 Jan 2017 22:31:09
Henderson is our engine.
The midfield battle was tough but we edged it. Shame about their long ball tactics which lead to their goal.
Filaini suits Mourinio down to the ground but the Utd fans wouldn't put up with it full time.


15 Jan 2017 16:46:49
I know it's only half time and anything can happen but what a game this is, both teams playing well, infact dare I say it. I think United are playing the better football but that means bugger all unless they put it in the back of the net. All in all a great first half, very entertaining and that's what football should be about. Fingers crossed we can pick it up a bit more the 2nd half, I'd like to see Coutinho on.

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15 Jan 2017 18:22:27
Good result a point away to them that'll do me. They're on good form we had key players missing. Coutinho when he came on looked pure class. Onto the next. YNWA.


15 Jan 2017 20:28:13
We took their best shot (if hoofball to Ibra, is all they have then, good luck to them) and they still should have lost cos Valencia was offside on the first cross for their goal. They couldn`t beat us even with them being the form team and us missing players and starting an 18 year old in his first half against the speed demon Martial, who TAA silenced in the second half. Credit to the boys and the manager!


15 Jan 2017 15:59:37
oh dear can in and no phil . fingers crossed for this

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15 Jan 2017 15:47:12
Sorry if I'm missing something or sound dumb. If Matip has retired from international football since September 2015. Then why did the club need to make FIFA aware he was not going. If he has told the nation team he is not going and is not in their squad that has been submitted then what difference does it make that Liverpool inform FIFA or not. If it's country v club thing I still don't get it, surely it's down to Matip if he wants to play or not, it's not national service. Maybe he knows his body can't take so much and is trying to look out for himself? Just seems weird if a player chooses not to play then what's the big deal?

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15 Jan 2017 18:34:14
It wasnt official retirement i don't think.

It was him saying he wouldn't continue to play for the national with the state it was currently being run.

Now the current coach has invited him to see that's its in a better way and matip is refusing.


15 Jan 2017 18:48:19
Sorry supermane I still can't see the problem. If he has been invited to have a look but refused, is that not his choice? Still does not make any sense.


15 Jan 2017 15:28:10
With all the hysteria before the start of the match I'm not at all confident. I won't say this match is done or that we'll be rolled over but utd will be so confident given that we aren't all there mentally. Matip was in the squad then suddenly pulled out, seriously how haven't we prepared for this match I don't buy the whole injury excuse anymore, similar situation to sahko with Fifa. Clyne suddenly out, how many times this season has this happened this season, a player getting pulled out for an injury out of nowhere at the very last minute. Don't get me wrong I rate TAA, but this simply isn't the game since he will be up against martial, who'll be thinking he will have a field day. The inclusion of Can was something I expected but seriously wanted to avoid, he will have to have a blinder, since we are sacrificing fluidity from midfield for the very little he has offered recently. Lallana and firmino out wide, respectively not their best positions at all, and completely a defensive call. And finally no coutinho, that speaks for itself, unfortunantly we haven't taken the risks I would have liked in terms of the players. Hendo is the only inclusion im happy with. I know this sounds like a negative post, but it's hard to look forward to the match when we seem to be on our knees. Let's hope I'm wrong, but I can see all the excuses already. A personal favourite 'who expected us to be here before the season', well we are, let's make the most of it.

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15 Jan 2017 18:10:51
young players have to play games to get better, and the better the players they face the better the young player becomes so im not worried, look at evertons kids who played against top players today, omg Tom Davies is some young player still a teenager and puts a performance in and goal like that, weres all our good kids


15 Jan 2017 14:52:19
National has been withdrawn from our squad?!? What?!?

Seems to imply (per BBC Sport) that's it's to do with ACON dispute!

I thought there was no case to answer there.

Do you have any insight into this Eds?

Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

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{Ed002's Note - No - the club should have clarified the situation with FIFA.}

15 Jan 2017 16:30:17
Thanks Ed, interesting that autocomplete makes National of Matip!

It does beggar belief that a commercial enterprise of such a size wouldn't have clarified this with FIFA. Let's hope it doesn't haunt us for this match.


16 Jan 2017 08:11:00
Ed 002. As it is being reported, the club have not had any response from the Cameroon federation. I'm unsure as to how much time was available to resolve this. Perhaps the issue is that we didn't anticipate that the paperwork would not be completed.
Given the backdrop of the club vs. Country disagreement brewing over the WC expansion I can see FIFA using this issue to remind clubs of their power. Hope I'm not being paranoid.


{Ed002's Note - The onus is on the player's club (the secretary) to inform the country's FA and FIFA that he is retiring from the International game or injured and not available for selection. It, and Liverpool in general, has nothing whatsoever to do with the expansion of the World Cup.}

15 Jan 2017 14:50:06
So matip isn't injured. The clubs not sure if he's allowed to play because of the whole afcon. Liverpool just released a statement, I'm not making this up.
Ed, thought you said there would be no problem?

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{Ed002's Note - There should not have been an issue.}

15 Jan 2017
The real time live chat page is open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Liverpool Live Chat page

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15 Jan 2017 14:55:34
What do you make of the statement made regarding matip? I thought it was all hot air

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15 Jan 2017 15:03:13
Stiched up again by fifa when is this club going to stand up for itself!

The Sakho ban was unjustified and we did nothing about it.


15 Jan 2017 15:08:36
It is ridiculous that Fifa have not clarified, one way or the other, the current situation. Sadly we (and others) suffer because of their complete and utter incompetence.


15 Jan 2017 15:08:43
What annoys and worries me is the fact that he was included in the squad, and then withdrawn. this should have been sorted long before match day, one way or another. Makes us look amateurish


15 Jan 2017 15:20:12
There's nothing we can do if FIFA don't reply. They'd be first to ban us if he played they'd soon reply then when there's chance of money coming their way. Talk about bringing the game into disrepute


15 Jan 2017 15:26:54
Completely agree more no. Should've been sorted ages ago and I can't see how Cameroon have any case whatsoever!


15 Jan 2017 15:28:18
fifa are corrupt persons he don't won't to play for national team why can't he just retire ed or is he not free to do as he wants i hope we can sue them for his wages


15 Jan 2017 14:52:31
Matip not in squad, not due to injury but doubts with FIFA over whether he was clear to play? This is a joke right? Should have been clear one way or another weeks ago!

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15 Jan 2017 15:00:04
Matip says he's retired al why can't they accept this


15 Jan 2017 15:19:34
The club should have sorted this weeks ago. No clue what are some people paid for.


15 Jan 2017 15:48:29
He retired September 2015. Completely ridiculous he should be available and given time elapsed since he's retired this should have been sorted out by FIFA in no time.


15 Jan 2017 13:02:57
Hi Eds and Reds, I was just wondering if you guys could tell me about how Jamie Redknapp was as a Liverpool player? Thanks guys, I know he was injury prone but he was slightly before my time unfortunately so that's all I really know.
Cheers

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{Ed025's Note - i thought he was very good T-D, quite silky skills but you did not have to be that great with the likes of robbie fowler in front of you, he was one of the spice boys as well which helped..

15 Jan 2017 13:25:58
Thanks for the reply Ed, you watchingthe game right now?


{Ed025's Note - unfortunately yes mate.. :)

15 Jan 2017 13:58:06
Nice hair ๐Ÿ’‡๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ


15 Jan 2017 14:21:16
Eds would I be correct in thinking that he actually had some immune issue or some type of disease that ended his playing career?


{Ed025's Note - im not sure bergen, but if anyone asks i say that he was a cocaine addict mate.. :)

15 Jan 2017 14:31:03
Who wasn't back then! Thanks


15 Jan 2017 14:46:54
I just thought his knees where shot to pieces?


15 Jan 2017 11:31:21
Well match day is here, if Utd sit back they will be very hard to break down. If they attack we will exploit the space and that will play into our hands. It's not the clear cut Utd win the pundits are predicting. I am sure Klopp has a plan in place for this game.

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15 Jan 2017 12:12:48
On current form they have an upper hand.

Our play has been below average in last three games and if we play with the same green away kit it is omnious sign for defeat.

My hopes are on players returning from injury to make a game of it and some quick brilliance from Danny boy to come from bench and score.

Cheers


15 Jan 2017 13:03:44
I really think they'll throw the kitchen sink at us from the off, try to get an early goal, then park up and try to hit us on the break as we push forward.


15 Jan 2017 13:58:35
Hope they do๐Ÿ˜„


15 Jan 2017 13:58:35
Hope they do๐Ÿ˜„


15 Jan 2017 10:00:46
I'm guessing we can all agree that the start of the season was better than expected so forgetting that what was peoples realistic expectations for this season.

Personally I was hoping to see at least 70 points. This to me is realistic due to the points we dropped at the end of last season whilst focusing on the europa and more time spent under klopp. Also a cup final and win would be fantastic.

I get people may not want to settle for anything but the winning the league but let's be sensible about what you were hoping for before a ball was kicked this season.

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15 Jan 2017 10:48:44
Whilst top four and 70 points were a good target before the season expectations were changed by how great we we've played . Less than 80 points would now be a disappointment.


15 Jan 2017 10:52:41
This club has spend enough money to win the league anyways. With no midweek games to play we should be challenging for the title and not any 40 points references. Y do some of our own fans underestimate our own team? If I am right, A team that sacked the manager 6 months ago finished 8th last season are nailed on to win the league this season. If that doesn't kick your buts to chase your dreams then nothing will ever! We ll fight till the last day and our only target every year should be winning the TITLE.


{Ed025's Note - i dont think realism is one of your strong points harry, liverpool or any other club for that matter do not have a divine right to be contenders every year mate, now i know its been a long time since you were champions but if i was a red top 4 would be a great season and anything else a bonus..

15 Jan 2017 11:31:56
Cementing ourselves as one of the top 4 each year is the minimum target.

The league in the ultimate target and we haven't spent anymore than the others to win the league but more to keep up.

We spent 60 million in the summer. United 150, city 150, chelsea 110, arsenal 70, totteham 60.

So by your logic

United
City
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham

Ahould be the league positions.

We don't owb the league and have absolutely no right to win it.

The last rhing on spending is were dtill in the lower end. when we start getting players for 50 mil a piece then potebtially we can claim we have spent enough.


15 Jan 2017 11:49:50
There was me thinking we could have a sensible discussion. A lot of people seem to love United doing poor due to their sense of entitlement but we're no better.

Be realistic based on the last few seasons we are a top 8 club and are direct rivals are spurs arsenal and United we are not at the continued level of success as Chelsea and man city.

And before you jump down my throat and call me a ppor fan note that I want every success for this club and dream of it daily like the rest of you.


15 Jan 2017 12:27:35
Ed025, Sorry Top 4 is just another reason to pretend you are doing brilliant but the reality is you are just above the 5th and 6th and a long way of from the first and second. Arsenal have been in top 4 for nearly a decade and how many times have they actually challenged for the title?
How much money did Leicester spend last season to win the title?
A club like Liverpool is only judged based on the trophies and not how many times have they got into Top4.


15 Jan 2017 14:10:52
Sweet chin. Big bog difference to be a challenger to top 4 and being in the top 4. Not being rhought of before the season starts in the battle for 4th, already knowijg your going to be top 3 is huge. for the image. future players. discussions for a breakaway league.

Ill take 3rd.3rd.2nd.3rd. Over the next 4 season, over 2nd.7th.4th.8th etc.

Once we become one of the top 3 year aftwr year then the final push for the league will be a piece of p***

Also noone here is wanted a trophy or made up that we won the battle for fourth. Every single one of us want the league but for the future we need to become a powerhouse in the league and a constant top level player with a good few chanpions league campaigns under our belt.

Be devestated to finish top 3 this yesr and back to 8th next yesr.


15 Jan 2017 14:45:59
As Ed25 said and also for me personally I'd be very happy with top 4 but we need to maintain top 4 not drop down 5/ 6 places.


 
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