Liverpool Banter Archive January 15 2013

 

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15 Jan 2013 23:07:10
Hi Eds

Do you know when Assaidi is likely to be fit to play again? and are any clubs interested in taking him? (Either summer or January)

Thanks, Wez {Ed002's Note - Assaidi is fit and in SA. The summer is a long way off.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 23:05:01
Get used to it fellow reds Liverpool will not be signing ANY of the players we wish for, them days are over.Potential we will sign, but nothing will ever come from them as they will be second rate targets at best.


Fellow reds....u sure


Man city and chelsea need more fans im sure theyll take u

Sneijder isnt worth 200,000K a week dnt want players in it only for the money at our club, only those willing to fight for the badge


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:58:45
Ed052 what's your opinion on sneijder? All I've read is about him on this website so wondering do you think he would dramtically improve us or not? (Not saying at all that were going to go for him as it's very unlikely)

London red {Ed052's Note - to make it clear he will likely go to Gala and there is nothing true wit links to his. He would improve us yes, but I cannot see where he would play. And he hasn't played for a long time it would be a risk. He is getting older and on stupid money. Looking at all the negatives it almost outweighs his quality. }


Thank you :) I've got to agree I really don't think he's worth it especially someone wanting that much money! I'd rather have players who want to play for us and earn the right to ask for more wages for example suarez. But thanks for the opinion ed :)

London red


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:56:06
OK Ozone, So what if FSG are trying to run Liverpool as a business? They are the owners, and can run the club how they want. For us, as Liverpool fans, all we can do, is hope that our team does well on the pitch.

Piledriver


I've never been one to criticize FSG, but being in the USA and being a HUGE Red Sox and Liverpool fan, I thought this quote was interesting from Terry Francona. Terry is the most successful manager in the history of the Red Sox and he was let go in 2011 after their monumental collapse. "They come in with all these ideas about baseball, but I don't think they love baseball, " he said. "I think they like baseball. It's revenue, and I know that's their right and their interest because they're owners ... and they're good owners. But they don't love the game. It's still more of a toy or a hobby for them. It's not their blood. They're going to come in and out of baseball. It's different for me. Baseball is my life."
Just thought it was interesting.


In my opinion it is not FSG we should worry about but, in time who they sell us to. I understand some fans are worried of a repeat of H&G but IMO Ozone is far from correct with his views on FSG!

K79 {Ed002's Note - I am anticipating news on the morning of April 1 about this very matter.}


15 Jan 2013 23:14:16
Piledriver mate I have no problem if we are run as bussiness but yonks have neglet football side and just have focuss on bussiness side don't forget at the end of the day we are a football club. If they were only interested in bussiness then why invest in sports? {Ed002's Note - How has the football side been neglected?}


Love how you get disagrees for saying it's good that FSG are running the club like a normal Business

Theirs some Massive Numpties on here at the moment

Lyndon


Well I take a different view on it Piledriver. They may own the club legally but it's ours emotionally.

Owners come and go but we're here for life. FSG in my opinion aren't here for the right reasons. They are using LFC and this is clearly borne out by how they do things. Everythings geared around a resale concept and that includes the club.

Ozone


That's a loaded statement K79 as you should be worried with the fact that FSG are doing what they're doing to ultimately sell on. You've contradicted yourself.

Ozone


K79, you should take note of the comments provided by th fan from America above.

Ozone


What I dint understand is this: if the owners are only in it for business reasons and to sell the club to make a profit.........why is this detrimental to the club?
Surely, if they want to maximise their gains, they need the club to be successful and in the CL? Therefore, they need to make us a successful football team/brand to bring financial success to FSG? The fans and FSG may have different agendas for Liverpool's success but we all need LFC to be a dominant, winning team to achieve our collective dreams.
If we are in the CL every season and winning trophies, and FSG are increasing the value of the club, there will be a lot of happy bunnies, no?

cozinoz


15 Jan 2013 23:51:13
Ed2 mate there is no any improvement on pitch we are worst then last year and has been our worst start for 100+ years do you need any proof mate {Ed002's Note - So you blame the owners for poor performances on the pitch? By that reckoning you credit the owners, not the coach or the players, with every win?}


Any club needs to be run as a business, its what professional sports has become a business. Fans are the spiritual and emotional arms of that business but do not mistake this for a right of decision or ownership in that club. Owners must run things as a business otherwise clubs fail both financially and physically, what we should hope for is owners that can be business men who also love the club like supporters do. That's the question for FSG.


How can you say FSG aren't here for the right reasons?? How much money have they pumped into the club so far and not made any money. They do alot more for the club then plenty of people slating them, the players and the manager on here!

Aussie Red


LFC have a long way to go, before FSG would sell.
Consistent performances in both the EPL and UCL, and the revenues that come with.
Increase in match day revenues.
Increased sponsorship deals.

FSG will need to optimize these before they can sell, they have to 'add value'.
Its like preparing your home for sale, you want the best price, but may need to spend to get it, but keeping your focus on the budget.
The problem is if you hire the wrong 'contractor/repairman, or estate agent' (Rodgers and Ayre), they can really muck it up!.


16 Jan 2013 10:21:31
Just because they are looking after the club responsibly doesn't mean that's a bad thing. What are the alternatives? Honestly Ozone, what were you hoping for with these owners? Huge net spends? Massive wages that the club can't support? Please enlighten me,
WelshBoyDave


Don't be surprised if they lay out a redeveloped stadium plan in place, buy potential players with high expectancy, balance the books by selling all the high earners and increase ticket prices. Then they'll sell the club to the highest bidder, not one with funds to actually improve the club. Ed002 the owners have to be blamed, they brought the manager in who picks the players. BR can only do his best and unfortunately he's out of his depth. {Ed002's Note - It is true that the fans are winning the battle to drive the owners from the club. Perhaps April will bring news that you can celebrate.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:41:26
Galatasaray's president saying Sneijder has finally said yes to joining them, need to move fast if Liverpool have a chance.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:32:42
Heard anything on Assaidi? People/Journalists saying he's off.. {Ed002's Note - He is in South Africa but has apparently siad he would like to be playing more. And there is nothing wrong with that - there will be players in every squad who would like to be playing more.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:27:19
Ed002 I've looked on the search bar this time!

Why is it that Sneijder is froze out of the inter team in the first place....

Thanks
Jman {Ed002's Note - He and Inter had a disagreement over the terms of a new contract.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:16:45
hi eds,

are there any links recently regarding liverpool signing james milner?? has liverpool as the 4/1 favourites to sign him, have ye heard anything??

thanks

glinbno9 {Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:17:09
qpr signing mvila 7 and remy 8 million
newcastle debuchy 5.5

three french internationals

there s value in the french market at the moment

wake up brendan

tom1975 {Ed052's Note - he seems awake enough for me. None are good enough. All on silly wages and none would improve our team}


M vila would add a bit of bite o our fragile midfield ed

not asking for the world just a few treats before the window closes {Ed052's Note - he would also add a bit of unwanted bite off the field}


Mvilla certainly would tbh but his bad attitude would be a problem.


I disagree ed, remy is better than sterling currently,
m vila is a beter bet than allen in the middle and debuchy would be better than wisdom at right back

they are all on decent monmey because they are all international footballers from a decent footballing nation

not the point though...the point was there seems to be value in the french market

we are now one light in midfield with sahin going, allen is well below par, lucas is getting fit again after a long injury, gerrard and hendo are looking good, shelvey and suso a bit young yet
finally our up front options start to look healthier with sturridge and borini returning to fitness

we are still lacking quality

tom1975


15 Jan 2013 22:57:58
They will all be decent signings and at very good prices. We always seem to get tucked up with a few extra million. M'villa at £7m is better value than Joe Allen at £15m, that's for sure. And yes, I'm Welsh.


Mvilla is a another balotelli. got talent but has a bad attitude


Remy has been awful and if mvila is so good why have no big clubs bought him?

We will soon see how good they are when they play for qpr


I would have loved to see us sign M'vila. Even though i do rate Allen, i think M'vila would add more steel to our midfield. Imo Allen was more of a luxury purchase.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:06:26
We will definitely sign Sneijder because we are only interested in signing players with a last name beginning with S.
Suarez
Sahin
Shelvey
Sneijder.

Haha. So there you go. Sneijder in based on that. Concrete! Lol.


U forgot Sturidge with a S too.
r-r


15 Jan 2013 22:37:34
Hi what about suso and sterling.


What about Allen, Assaidi..


Sterling and Suso


Sushi, Skrtl;) HullRED


Don't forget Suso and Skrtel

Mart86


 

 

15 Jan 2013 22:05:04
The rest of the season will be interesting with players who can score goals...Sturidge, Borini & Suarez. Up to now we've been toothless and all buildup with little end product after letting our top scorers leave in Kuyt, Maxi & Bellamy....must've been desperate if BR rated Shelvey as our no.2 striker.

Alf


Right lad!
derryred


Are you pissed? Maxi scored 2 hatricks and Kuyt ran around alot. that's all I remember of the both of them


 

 

15 Jan 2013 21:32:43
Just trying to find out info on Sneijder, it is becoming increasingly difficult to get any info from the club, which is good i suppose...

I am pretty sure it will never happen but you never know..

Unbelievable signing if we could pull it off in my opinion...

Cheers

Macca
{Ed033's Note - Confirmed as the real Macca


15 Jan 2013 22:23:59
Good man Macca, get on it!


15 Jan 2013 22:24:12
Thanks for trying Macca
NGF1


Cheers mate, hope you can get some more info!

An Dun Red


15 Jan 2013 22:26:42
thanks Macca, please keep digging those holes underneath melwood ground and tap into mr. henry's briefcase. I know we can rely on you to provide us with 'inside info'.
Cheers
RedTurk


15 Jan 2013 22:35:55
If Macca is trying to find out then surely its possible, if he is willing to take a pay cut then the fee of £8.3m won't be a problem, surely if were interested then he would choose us over Galatasary ...

Macca anymore info on Tom Ince deal?

BigD


I am still convinced Ince is done..

Cheers

Macca


 

 

15 Jan 2013 21:47:02
Can't help but think if we were to sign Sneijder we might be disappointed and spend the rest of the season slating FSG for breaking their wage structure....that's how it rolls in this place

Alf


Be optimistic Alf.

Roy


There is nothing certain to work in life let alone football mate.

JD


You really have nothing to worry about there Alf.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 21:21:03
I feel sorry for Pacman


Is that you, Pacman?


Yes those monsters never seem to give him a break.


So do I, that was some punch by Marquez. But even great fighters have their bogeyman.

Mantis.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 21:05:01
Love to see this Sneijder business materialise. Everything seems in place - £8m fee, wages freed up from Cole and Sahin's recent departures and a fan base who would love the owners for bringing in such class to the team. However, really can't see it happening; like the Dempsey deal, transfers seem close and almost too good to be true... Unfortunately think this IS too good to be true. Also, reports of Torres' return, he's lost it so lets move on and just be thankful what he has done for us... On the pitch and financially.
RealisticRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:49:56
I wonder if Utd fans were on their banter page in the summer saying '£24 mill for a striker with 12 months on his contracts a joke, I hope the Glaziers don't allow him to bend us over a Harrell with his wages, we're in debt we should be bringing young players in with resale value'!!!

You want to hear yourselfs with your FSG brainwashed nonsense. Van Persies won them the league and may well aid in another European Cup and FA cup. That's what you get when you pay decent wages and a heavy transfer fee.

I'm not saying go out there and do a Man City bringing in a plethora of mercenarys on silly money but one or two over 26 with experience provides for a balanced team. You don't get spirit and heart with kids, the comes with a few miles on the clock.

What exactly do FSG want?

Ozone


15 Jan 2013 21:09:47
what is man you yearly turnover? then compare that to Liverpool's, its never that simple mate


Utd generate a lot more money, have had the same manager for 20 odd years and are in the champions league!

Not a very good example!!

Paul R


Right on, RVP is the difference for United this year, 28 and the best striker in the league, but he doesn't fit FSG's crazy way of profiling based on sell on value and age, but then again you pays your money and you takes your chances, and it is FSG's money after all, but its worth noting how United don't limit themselves in the same way, isn't it?

jay


United win more trophies to gain more fans to sell even more merchandise to keep buying better players to win more trophies.

Nas


15 Jan 2013 21:36:22
Here's the difference though:

Adding Sneijder to the current team won't win us the league.

If we had proper depth in terms of strikers (Sturridge & Borini might be enough with Suarez, but they have to prove it over a longer period), a top quality winger (Sterling will get there, but he isn't there now), proper backup for Lucas, and maybe one or two other players here and there, and were just missing a player like Sneijder to win or seriously challenge for the league, then it might be worth the risk.

But we're not in that situation, are we? We're in a situation where we could use 3-4 more senior players, and have a lot of very young players that, even being optomistic, will be good enough to win the league in 2 years time at the earliest. Probably longer (in 4 years time, Sterling will only be 22, for example).

Van Persie came into a team that was only missing van Persie. If his injuries catch up with him again and he only has one or two top seasons at Old Trafford, it'll be a loss to them. But a loss they can sustain, and their fans can say "well he won us the league even if we did only get 2 good years from him."

Sneijder will be coming into a team that's missing proper backup in defensive midfield, proper depth up front if either Borini or Sturridge don't work out, and is waiting for several youth players to flourish. He'll have to be happy, fit and in form for at least 2 and a half seasons (possibly more) before we're a serious challenger, even with him. That's a much bigger risk than van Persie.

- Something Red -


Ozone if you don't think FSG would have bought Van Persie if they'd had the chance then you really have lost the plot

Chris in Tamworth


The guy mentioning Utds turnover. Are you forgetting how much debt they're in?


So Something Red, basically you are saying that Liverpool have spent a fortune but have not built a proper team. I believe Sneijder would be a huge improvement, and its just another class defender and creative goal scoring winger and we will be a match for united, we are not that far off


Paul R. Why are they in the champions league? Why do they generate more money?

Because they bring in proven quality and they generate more money off the back of the success the quality delivers.

Ozone


Ozone,
your banging your head against a brick wall mate, you can breakdown the F$G lovers into three catagories.

(1) The Kenny haters who got what they wanted so now feel they have to back the owners unconditionally.

(2) Lemmings who will just blindly follow the club over a cliff and turn on anybody who dares ask a searching question when they see all is not right.

(3) Wooden heads who haven't got an opinion of there own so buy into the owners propaganda.

I've asked this question many times before and not one person has ever answered it. Would you have supported Hicks and Gillett the way you support F$G if you weren't aware of what was going on behind the scenes?

Waro


Hear-hear, most sense i'v read on here for a while, totally agree !! Beardsley's Boot's


Whose fault is that something red??why can't you open your eyes and see rodgers is the problem..he should have brought in players we needed, rather than players he wanted..

Pacman


Are you forgetting how much the debt is increasing by ? have you seen there recent sponsorship deals are worth they will have gotten rid of the debt in a few years !


Christ, I'm not saying FSG should've bought Van Persie, I'm trying to illustrate that red nose identified what they needed to push on and bought one of the best in he business and it's paying off.

We need an attacking midfielder. I personally feel Sneijder would be ideal. If he would accept a wage consistent with Gerrards, wheres the problem? He'd bring quality, experience and a winning mentality to the team. Mind you what's so special about that if you haven't got resale value aye?

Ozone


Sorry Chris, that should read 'Chris' not 'Christ', predictive text!

Ozone


He is a quality player that would certainly improve your team and bring abit of magic aswell.


Ozone I sometimes wonder if you are a UTD fan...

Waro anti FSG fans can be broken down into one sort:

Ill informed ones.

Pacman same as Ozone tbh.

We are moving forwards, the owners are investing, they are not selling all our best players but bringing in new fresh ones.

You use UTD as an example, there is a club being properly milked. The Glaziers are the worst sort of owners, they are like H&G get it into your skull.

To your final question:

FSG are here to make money but the way they seem to intend to do it is long term. They will have an exit strategy which is logical in business, but they will look to exist in 5 -10 years after the stadium development, squad repair, CL establishment and a sustainable youth program. This will raise the value (in theory) of the club from what the paid, equalling profit. If a buyer cannot be found then if the club is sustainable it is win win as we sell certain players (profit from sale goes...) but have extremely good replacements that I believe is the theory.

It is 100% better than what the Glaziers are doing to united.

K79


Ozone and Waro, our very own Statler and Waldorf. You two always make me smile.

SpudRed


15 Jan 2013 23:06:48
"So Something Red, basically you are saying that Liverpool have spent a fortune but have not built a proper team."

I'm saying we don't have one that is capable of challenging for the league at this moment in time, even with Sneijder in.

The last team we had that was good enough was in 08-09, and it wasn't invested in properly for a year and a half afterwards, so it ceased being good enough.

We need to build one, either through managing our youths or buying more players. Getting the RIGHT players in and getting them settled takes time. You say we need a class defender and goalscoring winger? Suppose we spend £30m on those two positions and one of the players doesn't work out? Or both? We should know better than anyone that big money =/= a good player. That's what happened with Keane and Aquilani, they were the wrong players for the team, cost us £40m, and we got £12m back for Keane. That's why building takes time, because managers and scouts (every manager and scout, btw, not just ours) make mistakes.

And if we're paying an increasingly frustrated Sneijder closing in on 30 £150k+ a week, whilst we're building it's going to be a problem.

That's why it's a bigger risk than just bringing in one player needed to finish the job, like Utd did with van Persie.

- Something Red -


I agree Waro mate. FSG are very cute in how they're doing things and fans are being sucked in.

It's as clear as the days long what FSG are up to. How can anybody think for one moment that their Policies are loaded to ensure success on the pitch.

Ozone


15 Jan 2013 23:23:32
Pacman, every bloody manager in football will try to bring in players he wants.

Here, let me give you an example. We had a perfectly good right back and FIVE first team centre mids when Rafa arrived. Now admittedly, two of those central midfielders were Biscan and Diao, but the other three (Gerrard, Hamann & Murphy) we're all well regarded and had been among our best players in the last 2 seasons.

Rafa's first two signings? Josemi, a right back, and Xabi Alonso a central midfielder. And then he sold Murphy at a fee so low that most fans at the time considered it outrageous. But no one remembers that now because Xabi went on to play so well for us.

D'you know what we did need when Rafa arrived? A striker, since we only had Baros and Cisse as recognised first teamers, one of whom had nearly left the club in the summer, and another who was new to Premier League. He didn't sign one until January. And as has happened this year, we spent a large portion of the season with one fit striker as a result of that decision.

And I'm not just trying to bash Rafa here. I love Rafa. I desperately wanted him when we sacked Kenny. I'm just pointing out he brought in players he wanted rather than just grabbing whoever he could in the position we were weakest. because that's what professional football managers tend to do.

Rodgers has done no different in his first window than a man who was denied the Premier League title by a freak performance by a youth player at another club (Macheda against Villa - watch him never do anything at the top level of football again), yet you want to write him off six months into his reign?

- Something Red -


I know. Its crazy! I mean near on £60 million on players in the last 2 transfer windows. Its absolutely bonkers to think Fsg don't want success on the pitch. What was their net spend under Kenny? Another £60 million? Madness indeed.

The Irish Rover


15 Jan 2013 23:40:08
Chris mate I'm sure Fsg wouldn't buy him even if they had chance. Chris there are a lot of players who can make not only big difference but huge difference

Higuain- madrid are desperate to sell him and are floging him for year now all around europe at the sametime he is desperate to leave but very few top teams need striker at the moment. He is there to be taken


Ledowaski- he is desperate to leave again very few teams need striker he is there to be taken

Remy-7M would be fantastic for us

Mvila-8m again would solve our problems for years to come

As I said chris there are lots of players in europe who would really make huge difference but we are sleeping at the moment oh sry mate we are looking at ince {Ed001's Note - why would Remy be fantastic? He is not very good. Not sure what you have seen of M'Vila either, every time I see him he is terrible.}


Waro, I think you've smoked too much pot, you too ozone.

The best way for them to make the business successful and profitable is if the team win trophies, raising the teams profile.

Ask as many searching questions as you like - but why are they always so negative?

There's very few Kenny 'Haters' on here. He 'steadied the ship, ' when we needed him. He made some very bad decisions in my opinion, but he's still King Kenny.

Rodgers, was a very good appointment in my opinion, and in a couple of years we'll be challenging for the premier league.

rikdangerous


Fsg are building and as we get closer to the top that will be the time for big investment how often do all the mystic megs need to hear or read this ynwa


The last poster saying FSG are building. We are 8th in the league and haven't beaten any of the teams above us. Weve lost at home to a team in a relegation battle and thumped by a pub team on Boxing day. I do not see that as progress. There's no spirit or fight in the team as its full of kids. Take Luis and the captain out and we're no different from Aston Villa.

Ozone


Maybe FSG aren't the problem, they have spent on players, we can all agree on that. Maybe the problem rests with the manager and who he chooses to spend the money on. Why is Liverpool not attracting the high profile foreign managers. Why is Swansea as good now without BR. I still think the jury is out on BR. Beancounter


Ozone, obviously you are clueless to what the term 'building' mean in regards to a football team. Go look at what results and toil Fergie and Wenger went thru when they were building their teams. Hell, go look at what Shankly had to go thru. Or more recent look at the first few years of Spurs current re-building effort. These things take time. And yeah, I know I'll get the "it's been f'ing 20 years of building" nonsense. It has been 2 years under new owners and 1/2 a year under a new manager and completely new system. Time.

And Beancounter, perhaps the same reason accounts for both LFC poor performances and Swansea continued good showing. Both have new managers that have a team of players from a previous manager.

SpudRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:43:50
All you reds out there don't get hung up on wesley sneijder coming. Well have to throw him some heavy wages and as classy as the guy was he's been without regular first team football for something like 10 months. Just like sahin he'll need time to find his feet. He's a huge risk


Sneijder s proved it longer and in more varied situations all over the world against more varied opposition then Sahin ever had/has


I agree that sneijder is huge risk, too much money if the wage claims is true, and for a player who hasnt played good fotball for 2 years?


Sneijder was the best player at the World Cup two and a half years ago so I doubt the premiership would be a problem. Class act. I'd still prefer to go for Eriksen or if not him Strootman. We need someone to move the ball to the forwards quicker.

Mantis.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:37:31
there's talk of a loan, i'm unconvinced. 2 players that weren't playing have left, and 1 starting 11 player has come in. I would suggest that's it. Thoughts?


They've also sent Adam Morgan out on loan to Rotherham.

Tom Werners having a field day, ££££££££ slashed off the wage bill.

Ozone


Morgan has left for a month for playing time, with us likely paying his wages. What a stupid comment!

Papa G


And Coates could be shifted as well.

SR


Im afraid you are going to look likea fool Ozone when the next accounts come out. How can you get any money if you don't make any profit? Unless you think they are cooking the books, which i have to say would not surprise me from some of your posts.

The Irish Rover


No your the fool Irish Rover, remove the extraordinary costs associated with the last lots new ground develpment proposals and the club makes money. FSG just want to improve margins by reducing costs and bolstering income streams in order to sell at a profit. Wait and see lad, I'll remind all up blind lemmings of your clap trap when it happens.

Ozone


Dont be so naive! Owning a franchise with the global reach LFC has will definitely allow you to make money from other avenues/ventures... just because LFC didn't make a profit doesnt mean the owners didnt!


Remy 8 mvila 7 debuchy 5.5

why arent we shopping in france seriously


And when the next accounts show a massive loss?

Dont worry, i will be around to remind you.

The Irish Rover


£50 Million loss in last accounts. £35 million associated with stadium designs etc still leaves a £15 million loss Ozone. Do the math Ozone. Next accounts out in May. How do you think they will look?

The Irish Rover


Agree with Ozone. Mostly all my posts get blocked because I'm trying to tell the truth behind F$G.

We have the biggest kit deal, the biggest sponsership deal, sold players like Torres £50mil, Babbel, Kuyt, loads more. Also have massive share of TV money, league placing money (please google what teams get paid for where they finish and TV money, LFC top 4 earners)

We are also one of the top 5 European teams selling merchandise around the globe

Why are we struggling and missing out on Dempsey by £1mil, Ince £2mil, Forren. Apparently BR can have whoever he wants. Well he wanted a striker in the Summer, wanted Ince, wants a bigger squad.

Gets no striker (left over deal passed as quick movement this window) losses Ince to Swansea and Forren to Saints (cant even compete with these giants) and has the thin squad reduced further

Am I wrong ? {Ed052's Note - yes. You are. Ince was playing for Blackpool only 30 minutes ago and Foreen hasn't signed for anone. #


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:35:57
Hi Eds,
any interest in Mauro Boselli from the top 8? Is he available on a free next summer?
ForzaRed {Ed052's Note - no chance}


The top 8? That's a new one!

G


Sorry should have said top 4-8 really! Obviously no chance of Man Utd, City or Chelsea being interested [FR]


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:34:39
Hi Ed's, heard talk the Ajax chairman has said we are meeting with Siem De Jong and his representatives later this week, just wondered if you knew anything about this? {Ed052's Note - I haven't heard him say that}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:31:44
Hello ed great site always watch first team reserves and so on I like suso but think he should be played in the middle but joao carlos teixeira should be giving a go he's been amazing this season yet again so clever he's like xabi what do you lot think thanks keep up the good work and patients haha
Liverpool red {Ed052's Note - he will be a good player. He needs to get more minutes under his belt first though}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:22:37
Eds, I was wondering if you have hope for Liverpool attaining 4th place this year in the premier league?

YNWA From Slovenian guy here :) {Ed052's Note - its highly unlikely. 7th im going for}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:19:20
If Torres and Sneijder are coming to Liverpool, how come Macca has made no mention of it? In my experience, only Macca's rumours have any substance.

Sturridge +/- Ince. Two players in, two out. Less wages. Owners happy. Fans, sometimes happy. {Ed052's Note - Macca hasnt mentioned them as they're not going to happen}


That's what he was saying Ed!

Irish Red


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:19:04
Could one of the Ed's please clarify two things. 1) Why was YNWA on Sneijder's twitter? Was he hacked? Was it a joke? Is it fake?

And 2) Is it true, like Dempsey, the club store online were selling Sneijder 10 shirts? {Ed052's Note - its fake if it wasn't him. Yes, it seems so. Although both could be linked, and both made to give proof to tge other}


It was a photoshop Ed, if you examined it closely you could see the editting. It's fake.

Irish Redman


 

 

15 Jan 2013 20:10:07
Eds I've looked through all the 40 Sneijder posts and the answers remain similar to one another, are you 100% sure there is no interest in him? Also do you have any latest on Ince as it seems to have gone quiet again? Fantastic site especially when it comes to up to date info rather than any other.


Sneijder, Torres or even Ince are all Propaganda diversionary rumours created to keep the masses occupied with pie in the sky dreaming. LFC are being run to a strict cash flow budget, one in one or two out. We are trying to build something, but so are most of our rivals who don't have sugar daddies. We are now just a mid table club with massive pent up support. Probably need a sugar daddy to for fill fans ambitions quickly otherwise be patient like WBA, Villa, Everton, Newcastle, Fulham ect.....

Jury out on Manager though...
Bean counter


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:57:10
The sly betting machine started up again with quite' small amount of bets ' being placed on James Milner switching to the red of liverpool any thoughts wouldn't mind myself or have I been caught up in the betting scam!?.

Leeb7red


Betting is a scam in itself.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:51:26
Haven't Man Utd wanted sneijder for years. And at 8 million they have got to be favourites to pick him up! Wouldn't surprise me if they go in for him last minute and snatch him from whoever tries for him. Then again spurs a great at that ent they! Spurs or Man Utd I reckon!

Ernie


They have already got kagawa and Rooney who are similar players.


Sneijder and RVP truly hate each other. Can't see them playing at the same club kind of dislike.

And spurs just signed Holtby as a CAM, where they already have Dembele, Sigurdsson, and Dempsey. Read somewhere that they have 16 squad number assigned midfielders and then Holtby and Dempsey.

SpudRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:51:20
Patrick Ebert of real vallodolid cracked two excellent goals in at the weekend do the eds know if he has been scouted or is of interest to lfc and brendan? {Ed002's Note - MOTD fever I guess. Perhaps AM.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:50:44
Hi Ed hope all is well with you and again thanks for doing a great job. What your views with all this Wesley sneijder talk I read before you saying its not going to happen but with all this new stuff surrounding him do you think there any truth in it that LFC really are trying to get him ??? {Ed002's Note - I have done this to absolute death.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:48:36
This sneijder talk us getting into aguero territory! We couldn't afford either players wages so there probably not coming.


Ken Aguero and Billy Sneijder WILL sign for Liverpool in the summer!

Myk


Leslie Sneijder


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:44:50
Id hope liverpool wouldn't let themselves beheld to ransom by any player regardless who he is. Sneidjer obviously has a serious view of how good he is to make such elaborate demands if media reports are to be believed. 2-3 years ago he was definitely one of the most sought after players in the world with clubs queuing up to pay him whatever he asked for but that has certainly changed going by the reports. He shouldn't need the money anyway at this stage so it should be about challenges and winning trophies while still picking up a pretty hefty weekly wage that most of us wouldn't earn in 4-5 yrs.I would pay him no more than 120k a/w gross and top it up with a good appearance, assist and scoring fee with an extra bonus based on our final league placing. If he doesn't like it then let him freeze his ass off in russia if money is that important to him.. MonaghanRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:27:28
We are becoming a joke club.its as simple as that. {Ed052's Note - Why do you say that. DO you have any evidence to such an absurd suggestion}


With fans like you, you may well be right.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:27:24
hey ed I keep seeing the torres rumours, i don't think he will come back though, he's not going to run back with his tail in between his legs, why arent we looking at better no. 9's like Damiao, Higuain ( a little unrealistic ), i don't think soldado would fit in, he's got barely any ball control or other skills, we need someone who can link with suarez, in that regard torres was perfect, but we have plenty of other options, like Pierre Emerick-Aubemyang, is there any chance we might bid for dzeko, and we need some defensive cover if coates is to go on loan, with carra retiring, we need a spare set of centre backs, any chance we can sell hendo and get someone better ? will we get a good No. 9 and no. 10 ? and is suarez leaving ? {Ed052's Note - Little if no chance of Dzeko. You suggest selling Hendo, but who would you buy for £8m to replace him? Soldado wont come, he signed a new deal in the summer. We went for Damiao in the summer. Higuain as you say is a tad more than un realisitic}


If we can't get torres i think Siem de jong is pretty good .. good control over the ball, excellent finisher, young (23), realistic wages and cheap
El capitano


What happened with Damiao then ed052 ?

Thanks

BigD {Ed002's Note - Nothing happened with Damiao and Liverpoool in the summer. Leandro Damiao remains of interest to several clubs including Spurs, PSG, Roma, Sporting Lisbon, Inter, Milan and Juventus. Lyon, Arsenal and Barcelona seem to have dropped any interest they had in the player. The summer saw rejected bids from Spurs and PSG. Spurs, both Milan clubs, Roma or (much less likely) Juventus may force a move - and these remain the most viable destinations right now. His club value him at an unrealistic 60M euro which they obviously won't get anywhere near - and they don't want to sell. He has complex ownership issues so it will not be an easy ride for any potential buyer that wants to negotiate a low fee. The player says wants to move to Chelsea but their interest would only be there if other targets were not achievable, but they have taken a look at him.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:37:57
Hey there Ed, was just watching the Celtic version of Football's Next Star in Ireland and there was a guy on it called Naseem Militti. I happen to know Naseem and he's playing for Libya's u19's against Italy next week. I know he didn't actually win it but i feel he can develop into a top class player. Firstly I want to know if you have seen him on it and secondly any interest from any clubs in him?
Cheers mate, watch out for him in the future!
DublinRed. {Ed007's Note - I keep track of the show mate, I don't know too much except that CFC will be monitoring some of the others and that Hibs are interested in a couple of the youngsters. Obviously there will be interest from English teams but I don't know anything about it, sorry.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:25:43
Hi Eds, love the site and the hard work you all do...

Before I get slated for this, an uncle just text me saying that we've enquired about a loan deal for Modric, have you guys heard anything of the sort? He could just be winding me up but thought I'd ask nonetheless. Cheers Eds,

HardzLFC {Ed052's Note - Not heard anything of the sort, and I cannot see the deal happening. He has only been there 6 months, and for the cost, I just cannot see the loan, although the rumour does keep pinging about}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 19:05:14
This is on snejder's twitter, just before transfer window...

"Wish you all a very happy new year! May all your wishes come true..! Remember LOVE is all you need... ¦"

Am I clutching at straws but with this YNWA and so on is he referring to the Beatles song!


You're not clutching at straws mate, you're waving at hairs

Red Ollie


Is he a bit of a crafty butcher?


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:59:30
When our great club was almost champion in recent times?When we have Gerrard, Torres, Alonso, Mascherano.Now we have Suarez instead Torres, still have Gerrard but he plays out of his best position, wich in my opinion is CAM.We don't have two strong defensive midfielders who can break oposition early in the game.This is the reason why Skrtel and Agger is not the same as they was in the past.Lucas and Allen is to soft and fragile, they can't tuckle, can't pass more then 15 yards, can't handle presure of oposite of great teams.Why can't buy players like Mvila, Sissoko and others who is young and cheap?Never we can play like Barcelona because we never will have players like Barcelona and EPL never will be La Liga.
Mircea


Lucas is useless, as was shown when we missed him hugely after his injury last season as Adam had to (try to) fill in and couldn't.

Did you watch Liverpool before he was injured?


And in wich position we finished with Lucas when he was fit?Remember he was a CAM when we bought him.
Mircea


I too think we need a bit more steel in CM. Sissoko for me.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:55:26
Am not going to hold my breath but I look to be optimistic.. has anything changed recently regarding Sneijder? do we stand a chance?

Also if anybody has a screenshot of his supposed tweet can you post it please.

Plymouth Red. {Ed052's Note - its on the sightings page. Its unlikely}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:55:02
Eds does sneijder even have "it" any more? and if he does, is "it" even what we need?
I just think this is a really risky move going for sneijder who has not been himself since 2010. I don't think he is the player everyone thinks we are trying to buy. Not to mention he hasn't played in a while.
Andrew {Ed052's Note - if he signed, I am sure he would be one of our better players}


Not getting hopes up at all....But if we did get Sneijder at 28 years ahead of him, world class player with qualities that would benefit the team so much, and really give us and the team a boost. Im sure gerrard would love playing with sneijder and suarez not ro mention the youngsters. he's worth it i think...jdog


Gerrard would sulk he doesnt like it when he isn't totally top man


He'd be sulking now then!!

With Suarez being top man

Lyndon


No but he is earning more than Suarez, don't think Gerrard would like sneijder earning more than him though.

However, IF sneijder did come I feel Gerrard would be pleased, it would improve the team and bring the experience, Gerrard publically requested, to our set up?

But v rare the Ed's are wrong & they are not having any of this sneijder to Lfc.

Jimbob


I'm sure that Gerrard would just be very happy to play along side a player that cam keep the ball and pass it too him and create chances
G


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:46:44
SNEIJDERRRRRRR, yeahhhh I hope so :D he's been my favourite player since Ajax days! Please Brendan go and get him he's sick! Number 10 :P


I really don't think we want someone who is unwell, I hope he gets better soon. Poor lamb

Chris in Tamworth


Chris tamworrh hhhaaaaaa belter lad . Lfc fazak


If he's that sick he'll fail his medical.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:31:49
In response to the eds comment about sneijders wage demands (phone won't let me reply on the origonal post). In order for us to be able to afford him he would need to slash his demands in half and that is not going to happen. He is a fantastic player and I would love to see him in red but not if it is going to be detrimental to the club. If he comes in on high wages the other players will want a little bit more. If his move doesn't work out he will be tough to offload because of wages. I think we can all agree that there has been a lot of money wasted in the last few years and we need to stop that. And i don't want to see the money that we have saved being blown on sneijder, it's not worth it.
We need to be patient guys and accept a few more years outside of europes finest for the good of Liverpool Football Club.
RealisticRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:31:26
Where is Sneijder right now? That might tell us what he plans to do.


Heard he was in the kitchen preparing dinner. He was thinking about making a turkish ottoman rice casserole but decided it wasn't for him, so he went for a lobscous instead..Monaghanred


Have it on good authority he visited the lobster pot at 5:15pm.

he couldn't believe the size of the portions there, remarking that he'd never seen a fish so big- even in rotterdam's favourite herring bars.

a local lad suggested he try the peas or curry sauce but he declined.

that's it, last confirmed sighting chaps.


Just spoke to a man about a dog and he said he saw him having a swim and then a kick around near Liverpool docks.

FowlerGod.


He's playing floodlit Texas scramble with Ian Ayre


 

 

15 Jan 2013 18:11:55
Hearing a lot of talk of Jesus Navas to LFC any truth? probably not seems like everyone is being linked.

Sneijder rumours won't go away now the clubs offering bonuses and image rights to work there way around his ott wages. Probably another lie {Ed052's Note - no chance of Navas, ever, ever, ever.}


15 Jan 2013 18:56:19
Navas suffers from chronic homesickness and panic attacks. He had to have therapy to be able to leave Spain with his club and international team-mates.

I'd be stunned if he ever leaves La Liga.

- Something Red -


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:54:03
Great to see we're doing all our business early and geting our targets in and its not draged out just like brendan said.Oh wait we're not that was just more hot air from rodger's fsg and the always useless ayre who should have been sacked long ago. What a bunch of clowns that's running the club now. We're a laughing stock thanks to these persons.


Did sturridge not sign a couple of days into the window? What else do you want? Seriously what do you want?

Ashy


Sturridge was signed on 2nd Jan and the 1st Jan was New Years Day. How early did you want the business to be done? If it had been done any earlier we'd have still been on the first verse of auld lang syne.


15 Jan 2013 18:43:23
The only reason sturridge was signed at the start of the window was because of the balls up that they made on the last day of the last window. He is what should have been signed in the summer. The squad is thread bare and relying on teenagers and still no sign of anyone else signing and don't be surprised if no-one else comes in either.


You wanna know who the laughing stock is mate?... Some of our "fans". Crowman


Are you sure its just some of your fans?


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:43:10
I posted last week out of a sense of complete shame at the attacks on BR and FSG.
I tried to explain in great detail the dealings going on to stabilise and grow this great club.
Thanks for the huge amount of positive responses and I must admit to laughing at the joker who presumed I must live alone with my 10 cats.

After reading the continuing saga of rubbish and is information I ask that you publish my comments again in the vain hope that some of these people actually get it at some stage.

I love the argument that FSG have not spent a penny. Let me put this into simple terms as you have tried to Eds.
1. You have 2 old games consoles and you well them for £100 on EBay. You pocket the money and run. That is called asset stripping. You take the money from the sale and buy a new PSP, that is investing in new assets.
2. Your friend has a chip shop he wishes to sell. It needs extending and new equipment. If you buy it for £10000 you are making an investment in a business. It is now yours. You may sell some old kebab equipment to get a new fryer. Investment! You may look to buy next door to open a restaurant but first you need to get further investment from friends to do that.

Is any of this ringing true?
FSG are getting new sponsorship deals and creating new income streams. They need to do this to raise cash to develop the ground. They are doing as you would for the chip shop.
They have invested hundreds of millions in buying and developing the club, it's players and soon the ground. Had they been cowboys they would sell players without investing in new ones, they would take cash out of the business instead of putting theirs in, they would have bought the club with debt, not paid it off.

It is time to stop all of the nonsense. I accept banter, questions and fun on this site but stop slagging off people who are trying to do the right thing and run a real business.

On the BR front, give the man a chance. He is trying to build a stable competitive team. Shankly, SAF and others all took time to find success. It beggars belief that true Liverpool supporters would be the ones without patience.

I will now sit with my cats!
Dave


Well said Dave. I agree completely. As Ed02 has pointed out countless times, we have been near the top in Premier League spending for the past couple seasons under FSG. Patience is the name of the game now along with support from us fans.
EMAN34


15 Jan 2013 18:07:47
Oh God there's 5minutes I'll never get back. Don't talk about paitence reading that is after testing mine to the limit plus lfc supporters have been waiting 20 years so if that's not paitence i don't know what is.


Best post of 2013 by far well done mate.


That was well summarised but now certain people are going to start saying that FSG are selling games consoles on eBay. How long before the ed's have to start explaining that we are not building a chippy haha! On a serious note though Dave has hit the nail on the head and FSG should not put us or themselves in financial danger.
Scouse_Pride


Well, just because you have brought ed002 into it. He has also said that Rodgers or any other manager won't get the time Fergie or Shanks got to build a team. The money put into teams like Liverpool require success pretty quickly (ask kenny).

The Irish Rover


What a great idea Dave

Liverpool Chips have it built into the new anfield road and at the end of every match it would make a mint and it could run during the week for all the tourists that come to anfield, FSG would make a great return on their investment then....... Ha ha
QuantRed


Well said. For all the impatient fans out there. How many teams in England have won the premiership(1st division), FA cup, league cup, uefa cup and champions league(european cup). And yet there fans go to matches and support their teams week in week out. They go for the love of their team. No team has a divine right to win everything based on history. We have a new owner, manager and some new players. Our new owners have invested a lot of money and delivered 1 trophy. It's a start and a lot more than a lot of teams can say recently. You can't blame them for the 20 or so years not winning the league before they took over. Who's to say we won't win it more than once in the next 20. If we don't give them a chance how will we ever know. I support the clubs stance on wages etc and prefer to have a future and therefore a LFC to support for years to come as I have done all throughout my life for as long as I can remember. None of us know who was approached, what was offered etc its all press talk and speculation. Im sure the club would rather be sitting with their feet up with all their business done by now like the rest of us, they know the reasons it's not. We don't, we guess, come on here and read the paper's etc.To my knowledge there's 16 days left so I don't see any reason to panic.YNWA Simonpw


All ok dave up to the br part, but as we can not keeping sacking i hope he sees that when lfc try to play in the other teams half we are good, remember istanbul etc follow man u's example they do not play pass the ball around and they are the suceesfull example


IF Kenny got no time

Why should Rodgers?


Hilarious, QuantRed, LMAO Simonpw


15 Jan 2013 19:56:33
Dave what makes you think Rodgers is a right choice or where is the profe we are going right direction. Till now we are going backwords not only in quality but even in league, this is the worst start by liverpool in more then 100 years. It means Rodgers has taken us 100 years back despite spending more then 60M


If FSG were going to asset strip us then they would not have re-invested the Torres money. We may have s**t that money against the wall (some of it anyway) but FSG did give Kenny that money to invest in players.
jonnybarnes89-90


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:39:12
Am not being funny but with just a little over 2 weeks left in this window, if Liverpool don't get at least a winger or a CAM the fans will not be happy, not talking about world class players, just any signing witch has got potential .as the last window goes it was a a joke and the owners must know that, we all know the squad isn't big enough, i would sack the ince deal off as well he's not all that, if he was that good he would of gone to a bigger team than Blackpool when he left us, so frustrating.

beast from the east


If we signed 10 players they still wouldn't be happy, like yourself I'm sure!
JJ


Sign players for the sake of it is what put us in a financially bad situation on the first place


We don't want to sign players for the sake of it, but we do need at least 2 more attacking players and a defender if we want to realistically want to catch up to 4th


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:31:40
Hi guys, was just wondering why there isn't a bigger deal being made about sneijders tweet earlier which he sent from Liverpool and then deleted it. I saw it with my own eyes and people are saying it's fake. Almost certainly confirms he's in talks with us and by the sounds of the tweet it could be done soon.


Hi mate, by your wording and tone you seem genuine, what did it say exactly? ie, just YNWA?

what made you think he actually wrote from liverpool?


You gotta see it to believe it, and not many have seen it! [FR]


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:22:41
Not that it means anything concrete, but have stopped taking bets on the Sneijder transfer. {Ed052's Note - as you say, it means absolutely nothing}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:12:25
Hi eds

First of all I don't believe we will get sneijder if indeed we are even after him but I would just like to say surely it's not impossible because of his wages and all that and I'm sure after Cole leaving and sahin we could afford maybe 100+ grand wages just as long as he isn't paid more than Stevie G and I know we bought sturridge and he couldn't be on a he'll of a lot so it should still be affordable that is indeed if sneijder himself would take a wage cut to the amount I'm talking about and lfc tv where talking about where would he fit in well a midfield of Lucas/Gerrard/sneijder and front 3 of sterling/Suarez/sturridge we would be rubbish hot and very frightening for any game.
So please would like some reply to see wat everyone thinks
Thanks

Jr {Ed002's Note - Sneijder's wage demand is simple - 120k euros per week net of all deductions. In England that would equate a little over £200k per week. Maybe he will negotiate.}


Ed, I need help understanding where you are getting 120k and £200k from. Reports are that Galatasaray offered 6m euro to match his current wages at inter. Also reports that inter want him on 4m at a 33% reduction to play. So;

6m = £4, 985, 892 = £95, 884 per week
Even at 50% deductions that's
£95884*1.5 = £143, 826

Stevie G is on £140k a week.

SpudRed {Ed052's Note - for Sneijder to earn around 100k net, at 45% tax, you are looking at just under 200k. And of course there may be other deductions, so sya 200k a week for him to earn what he wants}


Ed002 sleeping calculation {Ed002's Note - I have no idea why the previous post was published with the nonsense math. I can only assume the writer is not a tax payer.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:12:01
Guys the chances of either torres or sneijder coming to liverpool are extremely remote...every single transfer window people talk about torres coming back, its NOT going to happen...and sneijder is not joining, he is on huge wages just like sahin was, we wanted to get sahin off the wage bills were not just going to buy someone who is probably on more than what sahin was, liverpool have said we have no interest in signing sneijder so its also NOT going to happen...


Our Policy is to get our sub bench on moderate to low wages, our fringe/youth on low wages, and our starting XI on market fair wages, with some star players who have earned it, on top wages (Suarez 120K and Gerrard 140K for example).

Sahin was brought in with expectations to start that he did not fulfil, and because he was a loaner we had the option to end the loan and the high wages for a bench warmer mid season. Cole was on huge wages for a fringe player, but it took longer to get rid of him. I see nothing wrong with this model. In fact, I like it.

SpudRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:08:38
Hi as their been any interest/bids in any of our player that's not gone public ?? {Ed002's Note - Not that I can think of.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 17:02:47
Can't believe the rumours about Assaidi. I think the lads a real talent. Better than both Downing and Sterling.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 16:48:01
I see Danny Wilson is back after his loan spell.
I like the lad, he is cultured on the ball for a defender, but his positional play is not up to EPL standard at the moment.
I think he could be a good defensive midfielder, the type we are looking for, strong tackler, powerful and cultured coming out of defense. Good passer as well.
Just food for thought, don't forget Jamie Carragher's first position for the Reds was centre mid.


Everything about a defensive midfielder pertains to excellent positional play. it is what the position is all about.

SpudRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 16:47:50
Guyz should we buy more youngsters and overuse them and destroy their pontetial eg sterling who needs rest or we should buy some experience players who can help us now and help youngsters so the transion can go smoothly.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 16:28:33
Assaidi and Coates both being linked with moves away from the club today, I thought we were struggling for squad depth? I know Joe cole was on big wages but seems a silly thing to be selling players with a squad already at the bare bores. Any thoughts?


Maybe it isn't true ?
derryred


 

 

15 Jan 2013 16:18:54
Hi eds and fans.with Stive saying that we need some experience to go with youth, j Aldridge saying not happy how we aproched united game, downing saying we need to change our slow passing and get a bit more direct, looks like a lot of people and explayers not convinced with Rogers. Few months back I remember Rogers saying January will be big window for us, and and the owners after the Wigan game saying they will show in January that they mean business. I'm sure they did not mean DS and ince, or FSG are not so sure if Rogers is the right man for lfc?thanks


He said that there is a place for older players not that we need more of them


Last seasen we beat Man U, man city, chealsea, arsenal, Everton, and the seasen befor that when KD took charge we did do very well agains big clubs, our problem was when so called small clubs park the bus, we just could not brake them, and we missed most of our penalties and hit the post hell know how many times, we were unluck, and Evra and suarez thing did not help. But this season we only have won agains relegation sites, what I'm trying to say is so many fans and some eds saying we are going on the right direction, and I just can't see that, I think we are going backwards, and I don't think unexpired manager and a team of potential is the way forward. Your opinion please end and fans


Many of those things said have been put in people's mouths or taken out of context. For example, while FSG said it would be a big window they obviously meant they had a signing already in mind (Sturridge) - remember the open letter counting out any reckless spending ever again. And as for Rodgers' approach, he isn't just about the short pass. He just prefers no wasteful passing no matter what the circumstances. You only need to watch Enrique, Gerrard and Shelvey to see he doesn't restrict more direct play. The media - and many fans - here just don't like continental style football, whatever way it presents itself. After all, it's in vogue at the minute to praise Stoke!


 

 

15 Jan 2013 15:40:43
Interesting rumours about Siem De Jong, he certainly knows where the goal is .

If we get him he would be our third Swiss-born player after Henchoz and Degen .


Lol you not seen the miss from 2 yards out then?


Agger managed to miss from about 2 feet so give him a break it happens.


Did you see the conditions when he made that miss? Lucky to stay on his feet

BthekingB


 

 

15 Jan 2013 15:32:43
Noticed how the Tom Ince rumours have died down.

Maybe we are concentrating on something/someone more important in the back ground....

BigD


A smokescreen you say? I like it...........


Like Ince has been a smokescreen.

Please Lord give me strength!


 

 

15 Jan 2013 15:29:52
If it's true that Forren is on his way to Sotton, then I can't feel sorry enough for Coates.

He has been mistreated. I think Coates is a good solid defender, even though he's had a couple of bad games.

How can he stay with us now knowing that he's only here because the player we wanted to replace him with has signed for someone else?

Eds can you shed some light on if Coates will stay if Forren signs a contract elsewhere?

Can't believe we were going to offload him anyway; even if we got Forren, we still need 2 in every position and Carra has a year/2 max left in him.

Disastrous decision by whomever (Ian Ayre?) is responsible.

SR {Ed052's Note - Coates may well go. And you need to stop blaming people. We didn't sign him becuase we didn't want him at this moment in time. So nobody is responsible. Coates will be fine}


I know Youtube videos tell you not a lot - but from what I have seen of Forren and Coates - Coates is far better, and younger, cannot understand the thinking at the moment at the club, Forren stats are not what you could call " blinding " - BR stick with Coates, he is quality, just needs games like most of our " prospects " only an opinion of course, BR gets paid a lot of money to make decisions, although some of his recent decisions are up there with Benitez, only an opinion of course.

John B


Most of the comments have been about Coates going out on loan. I would expect he and Rodgers want him to get some regular first team football and this isn't likely with us at the moment. Best to get the lad out for some experience. We need a good, experienced CB/LB for cover.


Ed052,

I detect a little confusion.

I don't mean it's disastrous that we didn't get Forren, and whoever is responsible should hang their head in shame...I meant it's disastrous we were going to let Coates go regardless if we got him or not.

Just to clear that up.

SR {Ed052's Note - OK. Cheers}


2nd reply down

*************

I am not sure I understand sending him out on loan though.

So he's not getting games, but what happens should Agger get injured?

I'd be alot more confident in having Coates' legs out there than Jamies.

However, If Forren was to come to us then a loan would probably be best for him; so he can get some time on the pitch, but it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth as I think we still need 2 players for every position, and that should be a policy within the team.

SR


Rodgers and LFC like Coates. They simply think he needs games in order to mature and stop making silly concentration lapses. He won't get those games between now and May for us, so we are looking at a loan out.

Why is this so hard to understand?
CB's rarely ever become top quality at a young age as the position requires a cool and calm head to play it well.

And no, Coates is not going to be upset at any possible competition being brought in. He is a professional footballer.

SpudRed


From what I can gather he was going out on loan to get playing time and experience?

That seems like a good move to me, as he's just warming our bench currently!

CoolhandLFC


Coates has the South American Championship to his name. If Brendan Rodgers thinks that not enough experience to merit a place in our squad, then things are looking up, this means we must be after the Spanish defence.

SpudEater


SpudRed

Thanks for the reply!

It's not hard to understand at all...The lad needs game time, and if he gets that elsewhere, then I am sure he'd be very happy about going out on loan, but from a team and squad point of view, we need him.

Yes we've got Carra, but his legs are gone, and my own personal preference would be to have Coates come in should Dagger or Skrtel get injured.

Also, I agree that professional footballers shouldn't be upset about competition for places, but in fact it does upset them and unsettle them, especially when they find themselves 4th in the pecking order, I know i'd feel disheartened about it, I don't know about you.

Now I am split, i've got a headache.

Would I rather see Coates go on loan getting game time, being happy and leaving us "short" for backup - Or see him stay here and being disheartened about not getting game time?

Ah the life of a footballer.

SR


15 Jan 2013 20:40:21
@SR - we have maybe 6 months left of Carra (outside, way outside chance of 12-18 months of him) at a decent enough level to play 3rd choice CB. IMO, using that time to get Coates enough experience to determine if he can mature in to the CB we need is the smart choice. Yes, a gamble on our current CB fitness and suspensions. However, we also have Andre Wisdom who is a CB playing as a full back who can fill in for a game. It just makes sense for the future to get Coates the experience if we think he can make it in the top league.

SpudRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 15:22:07
Won't let me post a reply . Correct me if i am wrong but Liverpool were interested in taking forren on trail. And he turned it down to talk southmaption.
why would we want a player on trail if wrong were not interested. He has turned us down because we and when i say we i mean the hierarcy for lfc are unable to act in a possitive manner.
It may be a different window but its the same old behaviour from lfc.
Marker


If you are looking at buying a car, you'd give it a test drive first, right?
So what's wrong with offering the player a trial if we are not sure about him in the first place?
Will you take a risk on a potential new signing from an unknown club and league, and who has never played outside it? Will he be able to cope with the Premier League?

This is not FM 2013 - grow up and stop throwing rubbish around!
Singred


Get a grip. The guy wants regular first team football as stated. Southampton more likely to provide this. Think things through before subjecting us all to a rather childish rant.


Yeah i was thinking about this scenario:-

on here yesterday one of the eds said lots of clubs had checked this guy out including the mancs.

so he's obviously a half decent player.

BUT we come in, not with an offer of a contract, but the opportunity to give him the once over at close hand training only?! so in the meantime, once news of that leaks out, pretty much any club can just come in and offer him something even remotely concrete and that makes them favourites for a signature.

ridiculous really, (although personally i'm happy with what we have already.)

also, it shows how fantastic our legendary scouting system is once again. they obviously weren't up on this guy because we'd have moved quickly for something far more longterm and concrete than just a trial. so once again we're seen to be dragging our heels over a few quid i suspect. good on southampton for moving in a bit more decisively i guess!

{Ed002's Note - It was Everton's involvement that made Southampton to put in a counter-bid to one that had already been accepted. It is nothing to do with Liverpool. If it makes you feel better you can add it to the list of players Liverpool has missed out on.}


Cantona was offered a trial at shef wed but felt insulted the rest is history.


So, will you ask Sneijder to come along for a trial before you decide whether he would add to the mighty Liverpool team?

Sorry, if your scouting team is that poor you really need to review that. Not really Rodgers fault if he is not fully informed of every prospect.


1) This guy is not Eric Cantona.

2) Why would someone say our scouting dept is bad based on this guy, whilst also saying both United and Everton looked at his lad? At least disagree with yourself in separate posts.

3) He's a 24 yr old 2.5m rated CB from Norway.

SpudRed


What are our scouts doing. He is a full international other clubs are interested abduction we offer hima trial . it's embarrassing. What chance have we got of signing top players when act like a Sunday league team. Marker {Ed002's Note - As I explained, it was Everton's involvement that made Southampton put in a counter-bid to one that had already been accepted. It is nothing to do with Liverpool.}


I say your scouting team is poor, because they are unable to identify if an experienced, full international, is worth signing.
Not the sort of player any team should want to put through a trial.

Just understand, this is all about previous reckless transfers making your owners very uncertain about further expenditure and your management very reluctant to make a judgement. Nothing to do with the player being "slow" or other clubs being stupid.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 15:03:54
I would just like to say - the next person who mentions the return of Torres should just receive the word 'person' as a reply from as many people as possible. Maybe that will stop these people from posting something about which they know nothing. Why we would want him back is anyone's guess and those saying we should have him back clearly have no understanding about the direction of the club currently, transfer policy, style of play or indeed the state of football in general. They deserve nothing more than the word 'person' because that is what they are. Stop clogging up a site which was meant to be about genuine rumours from realsistic sources rather than 'my mate's girlfriend has her hair done by the same person wot does Ian Ayre's daughter's hair and she told her hairdresser who told my mate's girlfriend everything in detail down to the last minutiae about Liverpool's transfer targets, outgoing players, loan deals, slaries, details of contracts blah blah blah.' Give it a rest people! Oh, and Torres ain't coming back either you person!

Sorry, rant over.

Red Mist {Ed002's Note -


Is Torres coming back or not?


So are you saying there is a chance in Torres coming back or not?


"the return of torres"


"Return of the son of the return of Torres - the sequel"


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:44:32
FSG are no better than the previous 2 we had. The only difference is they are smarter. Now the eds may get on and say they saved the club and have invested but hey hicks and Gillette bought us torrres enough said.
When southamption can take players from us we have problems . Fsg have not got a presence at anfield they came out last year and said afield would brought developed. I seem to remember hicks and Gillette saying a new stadium would be built. Like fenway they tried to buy time.
I for one do not trust them. Our squad was weak before the window opened. Its now weaker with 2 out and one in.
Cowboys with different hats that what we have.
I for one really feel that lfc is to big for them and they want out.
Marker

{Ed002's Note - Which players have Southampton taken from Liverpool? Or is this simply another embarrassing attempt to bleat about the owners?}


I'm going with the latter Ed2!

I bet it makes you even miss the Moneyball posts

Lyndon


Well said ED


Did they not take thingy ramires gaston {Ed002's Note - I spent the summer explaining that Liverpool had no interest in Ramirez Gaston. Thingy was a slightly different case as Liverpool could not agree terms with his Latvian club, Whatsma.}


Let's all club together then eh, and get an ad put in The Echo -
'Wanted. Generous billionaire. Must put the letter you after O when spelling, and have a mad inclination for impulsive buying. Apply L4."


Your argument is both childish and inherently flawed. The example you used of Fenway park contradicts your point.

FSG stalled in Boston to prevent the demolition of Fenway in favour of a new stadium. They then updated and expanded Fenway park. Now, it is both one of best higher capacity stadiums as well as one of the most historic and famous stadiums in America.

SpudRed


You forgot the most important part of the manager requirement. that all transfer targets most be sourced from this site and its true fans, the ones that know which players are just not good enough for the club will never be signed again. its going to be all mitchu's and vorm's from here on fellas.

KUMBER


FSG did remodel Fenway to get every last drop of revenue they could from the place. However it is not one of the higher capacity Stadiums. In fact it is 27th out of the 30 Major League Baseball stadiums in terms of capacity. {Ed002's Note - Keep in mind the location of Fenway Park and it is iconic - meaning there is much to be had in terms of commercial reveue. And remember that the there are a minimum 81 home games per season. Again there is no meaningful comparison to be made.}


I'm aware of all that, Im American and a Yankee fan, so I hate the Red Sox and know all about them. I was just correcting the other post about Fenway being high capacity. If I remember correctly by the time Henry and company bought the Sox the idea of a "new Fenway" was pretty much gone. There was nowhere in the city to build it and no one wanted a suburban ballpark.


Hindsight is 20/20 vision. I don't recall anyone on here calling for us to sign Michu or any other flavour of the month types but now we're all criticising the club for missing out. We could have signed Ba but with his dodgy knee we could have ended up with another crock. now we've "missed out" on another target who no-one mentioned until it was all over the BBC.

We have already signed Sturridge who has 2 goals in what amounts to about 90 minutes of football. Even if we don't sign anyone else we are stronger this month than we were last month. FACT.


You are correct. I was wrong. Fenway is not a high capacity stadium. The top five stadium are around 50K seats, the rest vary between 35K and 43K. Fenway is 38K.

The Yankees' built a new stadium, and reduced their seating by 4,000. it cost them $1.5 billion.

They tried to pay homage to the Yankees' history by incorporating a lot of factors of the old stadium they left behind. A lot of people say they failed and it just doesn't have the character and charisma of the old one. Sterile is a word I've heard a lot in describing it.

They couldn't fill it during their ALCS championship playoff run last year.

So, yeah, baseball stadiums and seating capacity are much different concerns than in the EPL.

SpudRed


15 Jan 2013 17:41:15
Oh no!

We've missed out on a player that most of us hadn't heard of last Friday.

THE HORROR!

- Something Red -


Sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit but you have to admit that's funny.


Ask any baseball player and they will say the best stadium to play in is Fenway Park due to its history and its fans....... that's why they have decided to improve Anfield rather than move away.
We need more people to come and watch Liverpool so we need more seats but FSG are trying to do that without taking the heart and soul out of the club.
Good owners!
jonnybarnes89-90


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:40:49
funny how many stories can be made up about Torres coming back to liverpool, loans, signing, fallouts pleading with owners this is gold, Eastenders writers will be looking for these people next.....in stone Torres will not come back to Liverpool....dum dum dum dum da da da da (eastenders drums by the way)


The only Torres we would want back is the one from 2007-8. Since then it is a different player. The one I want would cost 50 million but the one we would get back would cost a lot less. If people understand this perhaps the longing will go away and they can accept it will never happen.


^^

I do understand your point.. the Torres of 07-08 won't be coming back to us (if only we could unearth the next 'Torres'), i don't think the present Torres will be coming to us either. BUT i do believe the current Torres could still offer our squad something....


Sorry forgot to add my nick

Tiz YNWA =D


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:40:39
Dear Ed's,

Great site and keep up the good work. Just a humble request, can you ban people who post rubbish about torres returning to LFC.

GoanRed {Ed052's Note - most of the Torres posts are deleted, dont worry}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:11:23
Gonna have a waffle re. the Sneijder affair.

At 1.7m (just under 5ft 7), Sneijder will add to the short stature of the current Liverpool squad.

I'm starting to wonder if Brendan Rodgers is doing this on purpose. Maybe psychologically, shorter players are more likely to keep the ball on the deck.

Yes, we could probably afford the financial aspects of the deal but the player is rusty and it would be seen a s a gamble if a move were made for him.

I see it differently.

I think when the captain of the Netherlands becomes available and fits many of your criteria (quick brain, 2 footed, very creative) it becomes a gamble NOT to make a move for him.

Suarez----Borini----Sturridge

Sneijder---Gerrard

This front 5 does not look like a gamble to me. (you can rearrange the front 3 whichever way you like :) I like them this way.)

Sneijder has allowed his Gala (cant spell it in full, sorry) deadline to pass and is hoping for a move to the Prem according to reports. If we don't move for him, somebody else in the Prem will. Who has that kind of money? Probably only about 5 or 6 teams. Be thankful that we are still one of them. Be happy we are even having this conversation because if you believe the naysayers, we are being ground into the dust and the glory days are over.

Anyhow, waffle over. Except for this.

I would be gutted to see him go to Man you or Arsenal.

Len


15 Jan 2013 14:55:50
excellent post mate...and no doubt about his quality...he is an awesome player..single handeldy won the CL for inter with Jose...
But wages would be a huge problem...
I woulld love him though in a red shirt with lucas gerrad and sneidjer...thats enough to be in top 4 any season...
But In reality I would like to have honda
excellent player...and cheap comapred to the wages..


No offense to your post, but the only players under 5'10 on our starting 11 are Allen and Sterling... So not sure what you mean by a "short" team ha...


So according to you the 5' 6" Lionel messi wouldn't be a welcome addition to Liverpool. Ability, not stature my friend are what's important.rob b


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:35:39
Just seen sneijder outside melwood {Ed052's Note - photo?}


Yeah maybe it was Rodney...

Thatracoonstolemybacon


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:09:23
Koptalk are reporting that Liverpool have made an approach for Sneijder!!

Any truth in this Ed?? {Ed002's Note - Why not ask them not me?}


Mate if koptalk had any reliability then we would've signed ramirez 100 times, mata bastos just about any player under the sun actually.
derryred


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:01:52
Ref my mail regarding BR's handshake with SAF and pat on the back with saying well done, thank you all the respondees for your thoughts, but to reiterate, here's mine.

I have no problem with the handshake. I however want to see my Liverpool manager hurting after being beaten at old Trafford. I will eat humble pie as and when SAF returns the favour in similar circumstances at anfield, but you, know what? It will be a long time coming because he's is single minded and that situation will never happen, assuming we beat them.

How can the team be expected to show no fear when the manager clearly does?

Marshy


Your a a Shining example of sportsmanship!!

I must of. Missed it did he give him head


Lyndon


It's a game, grow up

Chris in Tamworth


Stop nitpicking at everything Rodgers does, Jesus now your whinging about a bloody handshake, get a grip!
JJ


Thats absolute nonsense Marshy. Have you not heard about professionalism, BR like all managers will shake hands and say well done to the winning manager, its being professional and well mannered .. I don't know if he was hurting or not, his face in the last 5 minutes showed his anguish and he was willing the team on, that's what is expected from him .. hand shakes are also expected, win or loose .. (Even Kenny shook Fergie's hand last year .. and they have a long history of personal rivalry between them)

Roy


Never ever give an enemy acknowledgement that they've hurt you. Let him throw a tantrum after a loss. Be a man, stand straight, and shake his hand whilst looking him in the eye. We'll get you next time. This is a game that men play.

SpudRed


And that's my point! That's exactly what SAF does! Not cuddles up and says well done!

I have no problem with the handshake, its the rest of it that shows weakness. SAF doesn't show it ... Simply because he knows the ramifications to the rest of his club if he does.


I wish Rodgers had patted Fergie on the back and put a post-it note there saying "kick me".
Then we would know that Rodgers really loves LFC.

M.Aurelius


 

 

15 Jan 2013 14:22:26
with Gerrard saying we need more experianced player/players do you think the manager/board/owners may now listen? we have been saying it since BR took over. If the club realise that Gerrard is RIGHT, who do you think we'll look at. cheers EDS, Great work


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:21:15
I've posted numerous times during the summer window and during this stating FSG will not invest money into LFC.

I have been right, all the money spent on players has been generate through sales and income of sponsership. FSG have not put in a cent.

My question is - will FSG accept Man Citys bid for Suarez (what this space, should happen this weekend) will BR be able to get the funds from that to buy players or will this cash be used towards the stadium?

While many won't like this post, please remember the Sturridge deal is a left over from the summer, the one BR had expected before allowing Carroll to go. All we have done this window is reduce the squad further losing experience of Cole and Sahin. These wages were used to sign up Wisdom and Sterling.

When Ian Ayre blinds us with 'money no object, we have loads, BR can have who he wants etc'. Take a step back and see how Southampton can take a target away, Spurs can bid that extra £1mil for Dempsey, Swansea can bid that £1mil extra for Ince. No interest in Holtby, Sissoko and Walcott all available precontract and all fit the supposed FSG criteria. Think with your heads. {Ed052's Note - DS is not a leftover from the summer, as a perm transfer for him was never going to happen inthe summer. Suarez will not leave this window, and neither will he go to another English team. FSG have continuosly invested in the team, club and soon the stadium. If you cannot see that, im sorry, but I wouldnt call hundereds of millions of investment as not putting enough money into the club. If your son or daughter wasted all their pocket money on a toy they broke in a week, your not going to let them buy such an expensive toy again. Same with FSG. }


Very well put ed


15 Jan 2013 14:57:55
ed...whoever post questioning FSG invenstement..
pls don't waste time in giving a detailed info..
just type..andy caroll, adam, downing, henderson, allen, borini, sturrdige, coates, suarez, and so on...this itslef is 11 players.


And Then Respond with Torres, Babbel, Mirelles, Kuyt, Maxi, bellemy, Shain, Cole, Aquallani, Mascherano all of books with over 100 Mill recouped
K.O.B


Then just say h*** up and you buy the club.
derryred


No but its paid for with andy carrolls money ed {Ed052's Note - you cannot say we will but player x with money that may or mah not come in in the future. Running the club like that would mean administration}


It took being an avid reader of this site for three years to understand how the success story of Enron panned out.
EMAN34


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:12:53
Does anyone here actually believe that this Liverpool management team are actually even interested in trying to sign Wesley Sneijder?


We are all aware of the clubs frustrating player identification and selection process. So don't be disappointed when Sneijder does not become a Liverpool player.

The truth is, he has more chance of signing for Southampton or QPR.

Digby


I would love Sneijder to sign for Liverpool and think his passing and vision would greatly improve our squad. However, I think you are spot on as I don't see Sneijder moving here and doubt whether or not there is even any interest on Liverpool's part.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:00:18
Mark my words...by the end of this season most of you will be devestated by the fact that we didn't buy Forren. He actually IS that good...

Erik Oslo


Well then we will buy him at the end of the season


I'm not surprised we missed out, Liverpool are not very positive when it comes to doing transfer dealings, offering the lad a trial when other clubs wanted to offer him a contract, its really small time from Liverpool.

Jas


Erik

Which part of "Forren is not willing to be back-up to Agger and Skrtel" you don't understand?

Singred


Singred - I actually understand all of it, but you are obviously missing my point.

What I mean is when Forren has 4-5 months of PL football with Southampton I am sure that's the comments that will be posted in here. That's what always happen...

I'm not saying that Forren would accepted an offer from LFC (but probably would even though he is a Man you fan) as he wants 1st team action, but again - that wasn't my point.

Erik_Oslo


He plays in the Norwegian League - not that outstanding I believe, and his stats are not great - if he came to Liverpool, he would be behind Skrtel, Agger, Coates and possible Wisdom and Kelly, who have all held their own in the EPL.
Unless of course BR intends to sell o couple of the aforementioned players.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 11:28:48
Any news on gomis eds?
What do you reckon he will do?
Bhav {Ed052's Note - nothing new}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:52:26
I'm starting to worry after that getting badly burned by the huge waste of money on Carroll, and by Kenny's expensive but lacklustre signings, FSG are now understandably reluctant to commit big funds without a bit more certainty about the target players.

Their other problem is that LFC have long been seen as big payers, and prices have been inflated as soon as our name appears. So to run the club successfully as a business, they have to get rid of that perception of being reckless spenders, even if the cost of that change is losing out to some really good and key players in the medium term.

We saw the effect of a more cautious approach in losing out on Dempsey, again to Spurs.

The careful approach also seemed to be evident in LFC not agreeing to Sigurdsson's wage demands and losing him to Spurs. The careful approach did get us Joe Allen, but sadly he hasn't had the sort of impact that Sigurdsson would have.

Now we see LFC asking Forren to do a trial before we make an offer, instead of making an offer based on scouting alone, and again it looks like we may lose him.

The problem with the cautious approach is that we will only ever get the players that no-one else is really competing for (such as Joe Allen) because there are too many clubs who will outbid us by the odd million, or will take a gamble where LFC won't rush the buying decision.

I think this problem is worsened by Ian Ayre being acutely conscious that KK an DC were sacked partly for their poor performance in the transfer market (heavily overpaying for average players, etc)- so he is probably terrified to take any chances and risk getting the sack.

We're not the only ones- QPR paid top dollar for a bunch of very average players last summer.
But I honestly think something has to change in our approach to buying players, or we will move from target to target and be outbid repeatedly (as we did with Sig and Dempsey, and now Forren)- until we end up signing the players that nobody else is competing for, because they will be the only ones who will wait long enough for LFC to make a considered decision, and the only ones for whom a conservative bid will succeed.

I can understand FSG being very careful with transfer funds, but I think they have gone from being reckless under Dalglish to being way too cautious.

TC


15 Jan 2013 14:20:50
Tc mate. There is big difference their KD and camolli bought pontential payers paying over the odds. Instead of proven players.

We need to buy prooven players in order to help us, there is no need of buying young/pontential players anymore we have got enough of them at our accademy, as Gerrard says we need players who are going to help us now and youngters so the transition can go smoothly.

Look at Arsenal they are going backwards very quickly just hope FSG can learn from Arsenal, they had one of the best youngsters in the country and were tipped to dominate domestic and europe for years but we all know how it turned.


15 Jan 2013 14:50:27
Fantastic post from reply we need to be very, very carefull with our youngsters we can't overuse them just look at sterling he is going backwords now he needs rest very quickly before his pontential is destroyed. We need experience players to carry us and help youngsters or our youngster will be crooked and never reach their pontential footy is very cruel game we need to protect our youngsters


Sigurdsson has had a massive impact at Spurs hasn't he! Does he ever get in the starting line up? No, he's sat on his arse on the bench holding hands with Dempsey another huge talent we missed out on.

Norfolk Red


Sigurdsson was Rodgers first target at Swansea, remember


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:48:40
Just a thought to the Assadi mystery.
Maybe we are keeping him a part in a deal for an Ajax player, as Ajax where in for him when we bought him?
Erikson or De Jong maybe? {Ed052's Note - we are not in the game of buying players to use them as bargaining tool. N player would ever sign for us if it happened}


De jong not good enough, will not solve our problems


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:42:39
There must be some decent players across europe, who don't cost much and can improve are squad, this new scouting team needs to start identifying players, sturridge we all knew about, ince was at our academy, look at swansea, they got michu, surely there's talent out there? Come on ayre, get players in, before its another deadline disaster! What another couple of signings like a sami hypia or even a gary mcCalister, sometimes the small named signings are the ones that make more of a impact! Dhh


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:37:05
I just thought I'd do a post on Raheem Sterling, as he's been getting some stick in recent weeks, which I personally feel is unnecessary.

I want to start by saying. I unlike a lot of others, feel that just because a kid is talented and has all the ingredients to become a top player, then it doesn't mean they'll become one. I only say this because, a few years ago (and even now) Pacheco got so much hype about being the next superstar. He obviously has talent, but he lacks the attitude and desire of say a Dirk Kuyt to succeed, at the highest level.

In this age of football manager, forums such as this and access to information all over the world; it's become common for your everyday fan to know more about a lot of players, that scouts probably haven't even heard of. It's easy to get excited over a player after a 5 minute YouTube video, or a top 100 list of the most up and coming starlets. But in reality, it's just not that simple.

My gut feeling says that Sterling has the talent, but also the desire to achieve great things. He seems to love playing football, playing with a smile on his face, but also a slight edge. I don't feel this is arrogance, but he knows he has talent. It's just harnessing it, which is critical.

Sterling burst onto the scene this year and in truth he's been known about for 2 years, as being the kid to watch! He's got a lot of positive attributes, most notably his pace and acceleration. He's got good strength for his size, good determination and a low centre of gravity. His crossing and shooting needs work, but what mostly impressed me is his runs off the ball and game intelligence.

The reason I mentioned his movement is because it's often a thing that is missed when watching a game on television. The ball is the main focus and unless it's analysed on Sky or MOTD, most will miss it. The composure to score that deft lob against Sunderland was excellent, but what pleased me most is his positioning to have that chance. In the very same game he had another great run, once again superbly found by Suarez, but missed that chance. That's smart movement is quite uncommon at a tender age.

Those who question his ability to beat a man, must watch back to some early games. He was roasting full backs for fun (mostly on the right side), he seemed to scare defenders as let's be honest most hate playing against raw pace. In recent weeks, this doesn't seem to happen, hence the reaction by some fans. Now most probably this is down to a combination of fatigue, the contract talks and new found stardom have gone to his head a little.

I also greatly believe that we lack a crucial 10. I think in the coming weeks, you may find Suarez operating from there at times behind Sturridge, but I don't think that's the answer. Suarez likes to go it alone, I know he passes at times but it's tough to read for anyone. Whilst that's good for bamboozling defenders, it's also hard to time runs and receive the ball when you don't know of it's coming.

A number 10 in the Isco/Erickson mould would transform our team, giving incisive and vital passes at the right time. Controlling the tempo higher up the pitch and drawing players in to give space for other attackers to operate. Sterling would benefit from this greatly.

At the end of the day, the boy is clearly very talented. It may take years to fully harness his talents, but those who deny he has great potential are clearly short sighted. Patience is required with all young players and we've got lots of good times to come if we embrace this, with Suso, Ibe, Robinson and others all potentially able to achieve great things.

Apologies for those of who this bored to death, it wasn't meant to be quite as long but I just wanted to make me points properly.

Papa G


Why is it unnecessary. He's played very badly last few games. If he's a winger is it asking too much for him to take a man on and beat him. Or is he supposed to stop when he gets the ball or wait for the ball to fall at his feet before he decides to do something with it.

Lyndon


I reckon he'll basically develop into Sessegnon.


I reckon he'll basically develop into Sessegnon.


Why is it unnecessary. He's played very badly last few games. If he's a winger is it asking too much for him to take a man on and beat him. Or is he supposed to stop when he gets the ball or wait for the ball to fall at his feet before he decides to do something with it.

Lyndon


His fatigue is more a failure of the shortage of quality we have on the wings that we are relaying on a teenager to produce the goods. He is under lots of pressure for a teenager and in all honesty he has passed lots of expectations. I hope he gets a rest now with borini back and sturridge bought in. Beleive me but i will take some mediocre performances from sterling now if it means that he will be a world beater in a few seasons.
derryred


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:36:03
Sneijder is holding out for a epl move he would come to Liverpool and Ian ayre is tryin to get a package available Rodgers wants him but fsg won't sanction the deal,, wages are the issue but c'mon fsg a world class player who has won the champs league played in a World Cup final won titles in holland Spain and Italy and is at a peak age of 28 would sure be a no brainier for us to sign him.. 12 months ago players like this weren't even considered for us now he seems to be holding out for us to broker a deal... He'd slot in perfectly in the number 10 role.. And a lot of bookies have dropped our odds from 12/1 to 2/1 of a deal happening.. Theres definitely interest from us, hope fsg give us the marquee signing we've been begging for, cause realistically now we have 2 world class players, Suarez and Gerrard,, we need quality players like sneijder and I'm sure top4 could be achievable..


Why is nobody seemingly else interested then? Seems strange as he was everyone's favourite a while back

Marshy {Ed002's Note - For contractual reasons Gala want an answer today (15th). For competing a deal for his replacement, Inter want the money ASAP. Sneijder wants time to get other offers on the table, although neither of the clubs approached on Thursday are looking likely to do it - and his reputation is not being helped with his latest financial demands of Inter (to leave the club). If this drags on past tonight then other clubs could then make an offer to Inter and, if accepted, talk to the player. Until then I suspect his agent will be pestering potentially interested sides in the EPL and possibly elsewhere.}


Isn't he allegedly after his 6 million loyalty/% Bonus?

Lyndon {Ed002's Note - It is a little more complex than that.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 13:35:28
Eds any more news on bafetimbi gomis?

Kyle {Ed052's Note - not that I know of. We have had him watched though. Well, we have watched Lyon}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 12:31:04
Interesting thoughts from Budashow, not just the usual "we should buy X and sell Y" nonsense.

One thing that, to me, is constantly overlooked is that when the Club say we are building for the future, BR's own experience at managing at this level is as short as some of the players he is blooding so inevitably, mistakes will be made. Sunday was the classic example giving United too much respect. I would have preferred Sturridge and Borini to have started and us press higher up to begin with rather than wait till we were 2 down before taking the game to them.

To those who are of a similar vintage to me( followed the Reds over 50 years), do they see some synergies between this season and 70-71 when, mainly through injuries, the rebuilding of Shanks's first great team was hastened and we ended up runners up to Arsenal in the Cup Final but were champions within two years starting the greatest period in the Club's history.

I am not saying future success is guaranteed but with a little bit of fine tuning and patience, it could come.

The manager, in my opinion, is decisive, which is good, but needs to acknowledge the need for a plan be occasionally. Certain players are just not good enough for the shirt and I don't just mean the obvious. However a balance must be struck between how many youngsters are elevated through the ranks and the right signings bearing in mind that the sums Dalglish had available to him cannot be expected every year.

Presently, I think we need a new keeper, despite what Pepe may have done in the past but changing your goalie in January at this level is too risky. Bearing in mind the AC situation, I would propose offering him to Newcastle for £10M plus Tim Kruhl (a competent, established PL keeper) at the end of the season then sell Reina for your best price freeing up the coffers for a quality playmaker which we are crying out for. Not exactly rocket science.

Confident we can have good runs in the FA and Europa cups and believe that 4th is still there up for grabs if we can find the consistency it needs which will give us a springboard for a good assault in 13-14.

Chin up lads and lasses and keep getting behind our team!


 

 

15 Jan 2013 12:22:35
i went to the match sunday, first have we played very bad nobody wanted the ball.
we missed enrique his pace on the left side would have gave us some breathing space.
manu just needed to wait for us make a mistake, we had trouble getting the ball into midfield from the back.
allen and downing played terrible, sterling/wisdom are too young to judge and it would be unfair to slate them they need time.
lucas needs time to get to his old form again.
second have we played better when sturridge came on it relieved our defence they had more time to choose a pass.
we need new winger on the right, and a midfielder.
sneijder would be a great signing, but i believe erikson would be better he is younger.
i am sorry to say but downing is not a lfc player.
sturridge is a great buy looked hungry.
the problem is we need to strenghten and that will be done in summer.
vlr Malta


 

 

15 Jan 2013 12:21:27
What will resale value of Van Persie be after 20million... probably 3-4million after 3-4 years. What will Can Persie bring to the club? probably their 20th Premiership title! How much do they get for that? How much for CL auto qualification...

Is Snjeder is avaialbe, will take lower wages and has the right attitude about playing I'd take him because the quality will get you results and we're in a results business.


Man Utd were getting automatic CL footie long before Van Persie arrived. Sort of makes your post pointless


RVP is worth then his money (as footballers go) What you get is a World class forward, who has took no time to get settled in .Man Utd get 3 points again and again whether they deserve it or not .They look like wining the PL this season and they will get a good run in the CL .

LFC transfer policy is good but we all know that Arsenal have the same policy and the lack of a few world class older players equals 0 trophy .Snejder is world class and players like him are not available for 8 mill.Even at 150k a week for 4 years if he brings the PL in that time i would allow him a few tantrums.

All i want is a team like we had where the opposition does not look at mark 1-2 players but worry about the whole team


A good point but we are not in utd's position. I think what we are seeing at Liverpool is the complete overhaul of our wage bill. If you are producing the goods on the pitch then you are being rewarded (contracts for suarez, sterling, wisdom etc) and if you are not then you may be forced to leave (I pray for downing!).
I am happy with the direction the club is taking on this issue and as a whole.
I am not completely convinced by Brendan Rodgers yet but I am happy to see where he takes us in the next year to 18 months and then we will have a better idea if he is all "me arse" or the real deal.
jonnybarnes89-90


RVP will win the league for MU this season more or less on his own.


Original poster, some interesting points made and I talk on board not where utd are at - Yes, but sometimes you get reward with some risk - my concern is that FSG took that risk with Dalglish era. with ...

Hendo £16m,
Downing £20m,
Carroll £35m,
Adam £9m,
Suarez £22m,
Enrique £5m,

Total: 107million

Makes you realise that we still need to balance books. BUT, a small risk might just pay off.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 11:53:40
Classic!! The usual suspects slagging Ayres and the Board off

For Not signing a player that Upto yesterday they knew next to
Nothing about.

You couldn't make it up.

Lyndon


Well said Lyndon. only god knows what they will say if we don't win the league for the next 10 years on the bounce
LEP72


I think you're missing the point. People are not upset about losing a player they know nothing about. They're upset at losing a player that LFC thought enough of to actively pursue ... but only in a half-hearted fashion that's becoming the norm! Other clubs are acting more decisively. That's all.

LFC_SA


We didn't lose a player that LFC 'thought enough of to actively pursue'. I know this to be true because we didn't actively pursue him.

We let a player go who wanted first team football that we weren't willing to offer because we felt we have better CB's. He is a player that we were halfheartedly interested in giving a trial.

SpudRed


 

 

15 Jan 2013 11:40:58
hi eds will rodgers recieve any backing with finances in the summer to achieve the squad depth liverpool need to succeed ?? {Ed002's Note - The summer is a long way off still.}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 11:34:14
Looks like no more Forren players then!


 

 

15 Jan 2013 09:02:50
Your take on the Sneijder tweet ed1 ? I know ed2 thinks it is fake but I am not sure. More classic ed 2 on Arse rumours on 13 jan 22:33:11 lads. Does anyone know the ed2 Facebook link ? Thanks ed52 for answering my question last night.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 12:20:38
Really hoping Suarez, Sturridge and Borini play together against Norwich!

It really is a must win game!

Lets write what happened on Sunday off and get going for the rest of the season!

We may not get top 4, but that doesnt mean we shouldn't strive for it!

Come on guys, lets get behind our boys! They need us more than ever!


United Kolours Of Bennetton


Another good post UKB

LEP72


We won't win, got a feeling we won't win in our next 3 or 4 games, its just not been our season, the fixture list has been especially unkind.

Having a series of really tough matches like United, City and Arsenal so close together has been really unkind. It would have old whiskey breath spitting fury about conspiracy's and calling for a FA investigation if united were handed matches like this so close together.

We are also been hampered with other fixtures that we always find tough been well placed in amongst the easier fixtures and as a result we are struggling to progress in the league or to get series of good results building.

Our season is a trapped in step back, progress, standing still, step back, progress standstill.

Turtle


I agree. I expect Liverpool to go all out from now until May. We are only 9 points of 4th and we have plenty of 6 pointers still against teams above us. If we can beat a team above us that is.

The Irish Rover


Yeap agree Irish Rover lets have no regrets-s. t or bust time!


What rubbish! How can a fixture list be unkind? You play everyone home and away, so if you have 3 hard games in a row then you must be due easier games in the future?

The Irish Rover


For sure fixture lists can be cruel, imagine getting a series of games where you don't play any particular difficult matches, now imagine performing well in all those games, and then imagine the confidence the players gain with good results and finding themselves in a decent position in the league and determined to keep themselves there.

But now imagine three horrible away fixtures suddenly replacing some of the more comfortable games and consider what this may do to a teams results and how those bad results could well put adverse pressure on the team and its league position in relation particularly to their nearest rivals.

Now even a so called easier game becomes vital to win, and so often when a team is under pressure because of previous results will fail to perform. A favourable fixture list could more or less have helped to avoid this scenario.

After the United, City and Arsenal away games, we could find ourselves 15 points off 4th spot, if so, we will be totally out of touch and its still only January. We can chase it all we want for the rest of the season, but we will struggle vainly to make those points up.

Maybe now you can see how the current fixture list may well have ended our season this early already. Its not the games that will do us, but the order in which they have came. So, for sure it is possible for a tough fixture list to have a negative effect on league performance and position.

Turtle


 

 

15 Jan 2013 12:20:01
I totally respect Forren's decision to play for the Saints cause he's moving there for footy and not for the money #goodluck

KrishnaYNWA


They made a decent bid. This shows more faith than the offer of a trial. He's only young so of course he would prefer to go there. Soton will be a big move for him. Liverpool would be MASSIVE!


 

 

15 Jan 2013 12:19:46
Mornin Eds, all, I believe Forren is about to sign for Southampton I'm sure he's making the right decision for himself as he's looking for first team football but it just shows how far backwards liverpool have gone when top players would rather sign for relegation clubs eg; Southampton and QPR with all due respect to both than sign Liverpool. I believe BR and the club are sending out all the wrong signals, Yea I agree its fine to buy young players with promise but what if that promise is not fullfilled? You need the right balance of youth and expierence and for starters asking an International Player who has played champions league football aka Forren to come and have a trial at the club is pure madness! What kind of signals does that send out? The player was right to turn it down! Liverpool F.C. need to mix it up and sign 1 or 2 players with experience eg; Schneider which could have a knock on affect in attracting other top players to the club. With all due respect to the likes of Southampton and QPR if we cannot match them in the transfer market then our club is in trouble, Sturridge a good signing he will prove himself SG is right we need to be seen to be signing top plaayers also But sorry lads... Offering a trial to an International player with champions league experience is rediculous no wonder its hard to attract the top player!

Red Ron {Ed052's Note - you keep mentioning QPR throughout your post, but who has gone there and not come to us?}


U knew this would happen. Rewind two years maybe even 12 months ago and all this site was filled with was give the youth players a run. We dramaticallydrop the avrege age, and now we need older players. Not a dig at the original poster, just an observation. Can't make everyone happy


Quigz23


From what has been said the lad has gone to Southampton for first team football. Not any reflection on Liverpool except the fact he feels he may not get a game. Totally do not understand your motive behind that post. Do you think we was the only ones to carry an interest in Sturridge?

Can't think of a clever name


Ed, with all due respect it doesn't have to be QPR they just happen to be bottom of league at the minute, my point being is the so called smaller clubs seem to be able to out muscle Liverpool in the transfer market QPR are being linked with Remy and M'Villa, Southampton swiped Ramirez and possibly Forren from under our noses, Our policy is wrong at the minute we desperately need a top player or 2 with experience hopeing it will have a knock on effect in attracting the top player.

Would any other premier league club offer a trial to a 24 yr old International with champions league experience? I think not so maybe he was right to turn the offer down, as 1 or 2 other posters pointed out - surely the scouts at our club have been watching this player? Our transfer policy is poor at the minute I'm just hopeing it changes for the best!

Red Ron {Ed052's Note - but Ron, we ahve no interest in Remy and M'Villa as they are not good enough. Ramirez wont do that well as hes lightweight and often injured. Again no interest. And Forren. We offered him a trial, Southampton offered him a job, he is obviosuly going to go to Southampton}


Forren has played the grand total of 2 CL games and you call him experienced? Singred


Fair enough ed, I half agree with you - of course he is going to go to southampton as they have offered him a job whereas Liverpool only offered him a Trial and to be honest he's probably right! This guy Forren is a good player and not too expensive surely he has been scouted and surely BR has trust in his scouts Y/N? If decent players are available at fair prices then we need to have a little more faith in our scouts rather than offer trials its dissapointing cheers for reply ed

Red Ron


Singred, 3 CL, 7 Europa not to mention Internationals at U21, U23 and Senior its probably as much experience as half our current squad have Im not knocking BR I think he's the right man for the job but Liverpool need to have a little more faith in their scouts otherwise why have them at all? Forren will be a top player if I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up it will be a missed opportunity!


 

 

15 Jan 2013 11:08:19
How the hell can QPR pay Remy 70,000 plus a week??

This is a Portsmouth part 2

Thatracoonstolemybacon {Ed052's Note - thats what Harry does for you...}


Simple economics surely.

Tony Fernandes is not completely stupid, so we will have to assume they would put something in the contract about reduction in wages if QPR get relegated.

On that basis, QPR are gambling on the Remy making the difference and keeping them up this season.

Is 70K a week, between now and end of season worth the punt or not? The difference between staying up and getting relegated is massive.

They won;t stay up unless they do something. Last roll of the dice?


Cause qpr have money to spare! Don't seem to remember harry ruining spurs financially? Also didn't know qpr had a wage cap? Very fickle bunch


QPR are backed by a certain Mr. Mittal the steel magnet he is worth more than Abramovich, so its loose change to him.

BigD


Qpr are quite well off aren't they Ed? {Ed002's Note - Yes, QPR have good finincial backing.}


How would QPR fare with FFP at present ed002, or if they spent significantly in January ?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - It would depend on who they sell and players removed from the wage bill. It would not be a concern to them at this time though, because like Southampton, there is nothing that UEFA will possibly do that they will care about in teh short term.}


Because players want to play for him.

Everything else comes afterward.


Im sure qpr would be gutted if they were to be banned from europe


 

 

15 Jan 2013 11:05:03
Tom Ince
We have bid £4-5 miliion - rejected
Swansea reported to bid £7 million
LFC get 35% of fee back = £2.5 million
That makes Blackpool get £4.5 million fee
Erhh, am I missing something here or are Blackpool just twits?
I would say let Swansea pay £7 million and let us take the money


Thats why they want 8.5m


Because with our 5m bid we still get 35% and 500k goes to tom ince so blackpool would have received about 2.5-3m.


Don't believe everything youread


I said the same thing on facebook the other day. I believe that liverpool have been trying to start a bidding war as generally players go for more in the winter so its more valuable to us if he is sold now.i believe the bids from us were never really that serious
Cudge


Can someone explain something please? If the fee received (think it was 57k) was set as a compensation payment as Ince was out of contract when he moved; where is a 35% sell-on clause coming from? If we didn't technically sell him, how can such a clause exist?

Bill (Irish Red)


 

 

15 Jan 2013 11:04:27
Hi Eds

Why did we offer Vegard Forren a trial? Surely we have scouts who will have watched him on a number of occasions.He is either good enough of the basis of scouts reports or not. Southampton look in pole position to sign him....if we really wanted him i would have thought we would try to sign him but it looks like we don't.

Thanks

Thatracoonstolemybacon {Ed052's Note - we offered him a trial I guess as he wanted to come and we liked the look of him, but we're not completely sure. Its quite refreshing to see him to Southampton actually. He hasn't gone for money but for playing time}


I say send big ron yeats out to watch some potential targets and see if he can find us a defender of the class of hyypia he found in the 90s.Tommy Irish Red


I've seen loads of Forren's games over the last 2 years and the guy will be great in the PL. Too bad LFC arrogantly and disrespectfully only offered him a trial...

Erik_oslo


 

 

15 Jan 2013 10:37:17
Suarez will not leave in summer. He signed contract knowing that top 4 unlikely so no CL next season. Only would leave if no progress but loves BR. Happy if Torres reappeared as floating striker is most dangerous position. Alonso more likely to resign however than Torres although neither are probable.


Don't be so sure.


If the likes of Real, Barca, etc. come in for him and the offer is high enough (say 45M+ to us, 175k per week to him) I would highly doubt he would stay. He's a professional footballer, nothing more, nothing less. I have no doubt he loves the club, but he loved Ajax as well.


Suarez has always stated his desire to play for Barcelona at some point in the future. If Barca bid for him then we may have a problem. Until then we are ok!
We should ask for a swap with Messi :)
jonnybarnes89-90


Suarez has always stated his desire to play for Barcelona at some point in the future. If Barca bid for him then we may have a problem. Until then we are ok!
We should ask for a swap with Messi :)
jonnybarnes89-90


 

 

15 Jan 2013 10:29:11
BR should sit down in a corner and analyse his players one by one. their qualities, weakness ect. he should be brave to take decision and not be sentimental otherwise he might be shown the door just like other managers.

He should not be biased, i:e for eg this is KK signings (AC)or this is my signing (allen) ect ect. he should ask himself :

Should i give too too much respect to players like gerrard, reina, carragher (they were very good previously, are they very good now? what does they bring to the side footballwise (are they here for babysitting, for eg sterling)

Is every position covered by experience specialist (eg LB, DM, AM)What should i do if not, should i offload surplus players and buy? (like cole, sahin ect)

Should i continue to play players out of position (Allen, johnson, downing, wisdom) or play my players to their strengths? thus more chance of winning

Should i play the inform player?(eg Henderson over allen)

Should i have a plan be for physical teams?

If my wingers are crossing the ball, then who will head it towards goal as my strikers are shorter compared to defenders. should i buy a tall striker as plan be or should i recall AC and give him a chance, help him in my way, channel him in such a WAY that he is at the right place at the right time like i have given chance and had faith to youngters that i even didn't know.

Should i continue to trust names (Skrtel, Lucas, Reina, Gerrard) or is there better players outside for less money (for eg in other european championship)

What will i do with assaidi? should play him for the best of the team or should i let him rot in a corner?

Should i leave my ego and be a liverpool legend?

Should i always remain sentimental with players or should be like ferguson (no error is tolerated, even if you are a star) succeed like him and take him off his f....k perch.

ect.. ect...

Sort this out BR, maybe not all, you have the qualities to succeed here.
We will back you as we want the best for Liverpool. IF YOU SUCCEED, WE SUCCEED.

Budashow


15 Jan 2013 11:06:21
andy caroll back here in banter page..
which winger crossed what?
35 games...did noone croseed...whom are you refereing andy?
you are not welcome to liverpool....
you are not even wanted at newcastle...


I am sure BR has never thought of any of this. He obviously needs you to mentor him. Can you get to Anfield for 3.00 this pm?


It's PLAN B!! The plan that comes after PLAN A! Surely you can grasp the alphabet.


If he really thought about it then he would never have played allen instead of Henderson or johnson at leftback or even central defender wisdom as RB.

Any way, he was born clever, i think he knows everything in football, he does`nt need advice from anyone that why he has won so many trophies

Budashow


 

 

15 Jan 2013 10:15:50
I see Allen is getting a hard time and Henderson is flavour of the month. It'll be someone else, next month.
Look at the bigger picture, Allen has been ok this season but was poor on Sunday. To be fair, he was a bit more advanced than Lucas and Gerrard in a more unfamiliar role and often received the ball with his back to goal. I think he's better deeper and let's not forget his performances earlier in the season.

We need to keep some perspective. Players are either brilliant or useless, according to some, when they are almost certainly somewhere inbetween.
We're either going to get top four or end up in a relegation battle, when, again, it's likely to be neither.
It's an emotional game but let's try to keep a check on things.
Rigsby.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 10:11:23
Hi everyone, Mohammed diame from west ham 3.5m or Allen 15m agree diame disagree Allen?


I seem to remember last season when dalglish was about to sign him for free, everyone on here said he would be a horrendous signing. The memory of people on here is so short.
GOD


 

 

15 Jan 2013 10:08:22
Ian Ayre hurry up and sign Wesley....


 

 

15 Jan 2013 10:05:32
Loic remy 70000 per week at qpr my god, and we can't afford 90 for sneijder?


Where does it say sneijder would take 90k?


You're very much 'in the dark' on the wages aren't you? Wesley Sneijder wanted more money to play again with Inter, Inter wanted him to take a cut. He's currently on 150,000+

Redfella YNWA


What formula did you use to work out that little nugget

Remy + QPR x 70000 = 90K per week for Sneijder.

Thats some good maths mate, well done. {Ed052's Note - that looks like some tricky algebraic formula that we all hated at school}


WS is at his peak. His current wage is irrelevant, he could reasonably expect a raise at this point in his career.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 10:00:37
Looks like we've lost out on Forren,

Southhampton have apparently jumped in and made a solid offer.

this could be rubbish from but they to be quite good on tranfers news and did in the summer also state that we lost Gaston Ramirez to southhampton.

Look i know that these guys may not turn out to be that good in the end like Ramirez, but how are we getting bullied by much smaller clubs.

I think that we should be trying to get some experience Allen in the midfield is good but still not good enough for us do you really see him as a CL player not really, Im not hating on him I just don't think he's matured enough for so much pressure I mean look at how much better hendorson is now that the pressure of the price tag has faded.

Also Eds wondering if you'd heard of any new transfers that may come in Personally i'd rather not see Ince return as i beleive we have options wide with Sterling etc

please could you give your thoughts on possible transfers


Try the search function!


And Southampton are 10 points behind us, so your point is?


 

 

15 Jan 2013 09:57:53
It's looking like Molde defender Vegard Forren is heading for Southampton rather than Liverpool. Forren was expected to start training at Melwood today but the Liverpool Echo reports that Southampton have made a firm offer and that the player has had a change of heart, and will head to St Mary's for talks as he wants first-team football.

--------

This is getting embarrassing for us now, how can someone reject us for Southampton ?

Just like Dempsey & Sigurdsson rejected us for Spurs.

BigD


This is getting embarrassing for us now, how can someone reject us for Southampton ?

===========================
Nothing embarrassing about it, the lad wants first team football, he is not as good as Agger or Skrtel, so he won't get to play every week with us ..

Roy


How is he rejecting us when he was only offered a trial??
Southampton have offered him a permanent move and there won't be 2 quality cbs he has to compete with. Think about it. What would you do, and before it come out in the press no one prob ever heard of him anyway so why you bothered we have coates carra wisdom kelly who all can play there so to me just a waste of wages.
SB96


What it is clearly showing is how inept Ayre and BR are at with LFC. BR talks a good game but we are still in 8th place. For LFC this is appalling.

We will be told that BR is repairing damage from previous regimes spending all that money. Money that was agreed by FSG. Henderson, Downing, Enrique have been playing more regularly so what does that say? Also Allen, Borini, Sahin, Assaidi at best poor oh yes Sahin has already left. BR any better in the market? I think not

Also Werner said things would happen in January, Ayre says we are not just targetting young players (but did not sanction Dempsey deal) and we have money to compete. Rodgers say we can't. What is the true answer? Are we working together?

This player Forren may not be great but sorely if scouts are doing their jobs properly like years ago you don't offer trials. LFC is in a mess from top to bottom.

Things will only get worse until an experienced structure who understand football is put in place


Dempsey didn't reject us! We refused to pay the fee!


Maybe he wants first team football. I'd be more worried if he was more likely to get that at Liverpool than at Southampton. (No disrespect to Soton, btw).
Rigsby.


Give it a rest, mate! Do we need him in the first place?! He's clearly not keen to be back up to Skrtel and Agger, and will be getting first team football with the saints. So good for him!

Yes we missed out on Dempsey, but he's not exactly firing all cylinders right now, is he? And don't get me started on Goofy - he snubbed us for more money, and is now playing second fiddle. Let him rot there for all I care!

Singred


Apparently dempsey is doing very well at spurs! But the eds won't print this reply {Ed052's Note - we dont usually let threats through, no, surprisingly. And Dempsey isn't doing all that well at Spurs}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 09:50:41
Eds, can you please enlighten me why Rodgers wants to sell or loan out Coates ? IMO, he is avery good defender who can only improve.

CleO {Ed052's Note - he obviously doesn't see him in his plans}


He's slow and clumsy. Every time he plays he looks like giving a pen away. The only reason to keep him would be to keep Suarez happy.


{Ed052's Note - he obviously doesn't see him in his plans}
============================

I don't think that is the case Ed052, I think Coates worried about his international place in the Uruguayan side and pushing for first team regular football, Rodgers rightly does n't think he is ready to replace Agger or Skrtel yet . Rodgers did say he prefers to loan Coates than sell him.

Roy {Ed052's Note - what I mean is that Rodgers doesn't seem him in his first team plans, so for the sake of the kid he shouldat least go out on loan so he can play a bit. I think BR would like him as a reserve but its not fair on the kid}


He's too slow!


Skrtel was the same. Gave endless penalties away and silly tackles. Now look at him. Give seb time, I thought he was brilliant at the copa America last year.


Give him time, i can see him coming good soon. A lot of players who LFC have got (even current players) didn't have a good start to their career here. How about Lucas, couldn't get the swing of the English league, now look at him.

FowlerGod.


I don't understand how BR can give others so much of a chance such as Allen when they are not playing to a good enough standard whilst sidelining players such as Coates who has won a player of the tournament award. To an extent this shows how poor this manger's judgement can be


 

 

15 Jan 2013 00:39:23
Ed052, is it more likely Coates will be sold or go out on loan? I like Coates and wouldn't like to see him sold.

Dan. {Ed052's Note - I can see him sold, but a loan is equally possible}


 

 

15 Jan 2013 09:39:13
Mohamed Diame and Yann M Vila look like the type of player we should looking at.
Both available at good price, big lads and tough


Moussa sissoko too.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 09:40:10
Want to mention something that maybe a bit contentious but I have noticed that for a long time now there has been a fundamental problem with settling players into LFC.

Not sure if the club are doing the right things to ensure a players settles into life at LFC both on the pitch and off the pitch.
Often it looks like off the field issues are affecting them on the field.

Not sure if it is the pressure of playing for LFC or a poor mentoring/buddy system or ineffective introduction to life at LFC.

If players do settle, it seems to take them a long long time to do so.

I appreciate it may be a language or cultural thing for some overseas players but I also notice it with the English based players.

Are LFC doing all it can to help ? I am sure they could do more or do things better.

It almost seems like they sign a contract, shake hands with Ian Ayre and then are giving some details of estate agents and then told to get on with it.

Leam Red
P.S I accpet the notable exception being some (not all) of the Spanish brigade under Rafa but there was almost a mini-community of them.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 08:40:47
My take on Sneijder

Transfer fee - approx £8m - not an issue for FSG

Wages - with the correct structure close to Gerrards package

Age - not a big issue as he still has 3-4 good years in him

Experience - won Dutch / Spanish / Italian titles, played in world cups etc. Just imagine what Suso/texeira/shelvey could learn how to play as a #10 from someone voted best midfielder in Europe in 2010

Fit into System - as the attacking midfielder, gives options for alternative systems. May find it hard to fit in with BR

Fit with FSG - wages not and issue, lack of resale value will be an issue

Desire - wants to play top level football to ensure his place in world cup 2014

Sneijder at Liverpool - despite all that just can't see it
happening because of the personalties involved and it will
not never work out so too much of a gamble

No doubt we are desperate for that spark to be added to the squad to push us to the next level

Leam Red


So Sneijder is Going to Help us defend better?
Thats half our problem at the min slack defending. He's hardly renowned for tracking back. How problems have been scoring and defending not creating chances just converting them.


Lyndon


My take on Snejder:

Transfer Fee: could be done.

Wages: huge issue. Why would we pay wages way over Gerrard's or anyone in the club's? Staying away from the huge financial loss, this will inflame the dressing room.

Age: not an issue.

Experience - great! But he has muddles through the recent years. We need to talk i terms of form, not of class here, because a player like Snejder can only come in as an impact-player - and the truth is that Snejder hasn't been in a good form for Inter ever since the Champions League year. I suspect we will get a player in a form similar to Sahin's.

Fit into System - I am by no means convinced. He is good offensively, but can be bullied out of games, and would contribute nothing defensively. I imagine he might be of a Joe Cole mould.

Desire - if he had such a desire to play for a top flight, he would agree to severely cut his wages. Her hasn't.

All to all - this is not the Snejder of a few years back, and I don't see him working at Liverpool any better than Sahin or Joe Cole.
I'd prefer to see Henderson given a chance, and us going for a younger player in the summer, or developing some of our prospects.

Drigan


Our. Even

Lyndon


15 Jan 2013 10:26:54
If people are expecting a CAM / #10 to come in and solve our defence problems then that is scary.

Playing with good defenders in their natural positions and having 2 holding players will solve that quite easily (e.g Lucas+Henderson or Lucas+Sahin would have been good to see)

Playing a CB at RB and a RB at LB, accompanied by a single holding midfielder still on the road to recovery is not the answer.


Have i misread these posts? in what way is a move for sneijder a link to our defensive problems?

JOZLFC


Because he doesn't help defend!!

You Plum


Why the hell do you think there are such positions as holding/defensive midfielders? his job is to create chances and put the ball in the back of the net. You honestly think our whole defensive problems stem from having a no10 who tracks back?

JOZLFC


Why the hell do you think there are such positions as holding/defensive midfielders? his job is to create chances and put the ball in the back of the net. You honestly think our whole defensive problems stem from having a no10 who tracks back?

JOZLFC


 

 

15 Jan 2013 08:10:44
Correct me if I'm wrong Eds but isn't it true that Andy Caroll cannot play for another English club thus season after already playing with Liverpool and West Ham??

Dore89 {Ed002's Note - If he has played for both, that is correct.}


Ya he played against west brom and Man city at the start of the season, both from off the bench


Dont understand the point of the question, Carroll staying at Wasteham till the end of the season ..

Roy


It was originally posted as a reply on the rumours page to someone saying that AC loan to west ham is been ended and we are doing a straight swap for Ben Arfa, somehow the post went to the banter page instead


 

 

15 Jan 2013 08:06:31
If we don't buy a couple of experienced players we will really regret it. Mark my words. As Stevie G warns, you cannot just buy kids. The problem is, if those kids shine, and if we are not challenging for honours, then they will go to other clubs and what we will become is a once-successful revolving door.

Gazline


Sorry mate but Gerrard needs to shut up and crack on with sorting his own form out not trying to influence who we do and don't buy.

We've got-
Gerrard
Carra
Agger
Skrtl
Johnson
Enrique
Reina
Lucas
Suarez
Downing

How do we lack experience? Quality maybe but not experience.


Gerrard was talking in general terms about teams with young players. I don't think he was saying Liverpool didn't have experienced players. Also maybe you could show our captain the respect he's earned?


I agree.

It is true Gerrard learnt alot from McCallister and Carragher learnt alot from Hypia in the past.

But now it is time for the experienced 32 year old Gerrard to pass on the same experience to the rest of the young mid fielders and the 34 year old Carragher to do the same with the defenders.

To be honest, if you listen to the interviews with the young players they always mention those two and that they are learning alot from them.

Then below Gerrard and Carragher we have

Reina, Jones (30+)
Johnson, Skertl, Agger, Downing 27-28

Lucas, Enrique and Suarez - 26.

So I don't think we lack that much experience but numbers in terms of over 21 year old players, compared to the other teams fighting for top 4.

The teams above us have an additional 4-5 over 21 year old players to call upon.

Our youngsters are still a few years away from hitting their peak and potential so will need managing carefully over that time. Maybe some need going on loan and others used more from the bench rather than starting games.

I wouldn't mind if we bought a "world class" striker who was 27-29 who was top of his game or a number 10 e.g RVP but they command top wages as anyone would who was at the peak of their career. So I'm not sure if that will happen. Also they expect to be fighting for league titles and playing in the Champions league.

That leaves us with going for good players in the 22-25, 26 year old range who we think we can improve and they become world class at LFC.

e.g Sturridge or if we think back Suarez who joined us when he was coming upto his 24th Birthday.

I think we have a number of issues to look at over the next couple of years.

1) Identify the players in our squad now who will take over Gerrard and Carragher to continue passing on experience to the younger playes.

e.g Lucas. But I don't think Agger, Skertl or Johnson or Enrique will do the same with our defence, but I may be wrong - But I think this is why Rodgers is very keen to convince Carragher not to retire at the end of the season.

2) We need to fill out some positions in the squad - e.g cover for LB/Left sided defence, a true number 10 and maybe another experienced striker, but also manage the youngsters coming out of the academy in terms of gaining experience via appropriate loans, playing in cup games and progressing onto the bench for the first team.

3) Somehow convince Suarez to stick with us for the next 2 years.

4) Look at a long term replacement for Reina. I don't think he will be with us for than the next 1-2 years. There is too much speculation around his future and when that happens it usually means there is some truth to the rumours.

In the recent Redmen TV Rodgers interview series he mentioned the following areas he was looking at for the next 2 transfer windows.

1) LB cover for Enrique. He rates Robinson but thinks he needs to gain more experience via a loan over the next 12-18 months. We also have to remember if we won't play more than 2 youngsters in premier league game, so if Sterling/Suso/Shelvey or Wisdom play it limits the game time Robinson will get.

2) A mobile central goalscoring striker e.g Sturridge, but maybe we need 1 more as cover as well. All top teams have 2 for each position.

3) A top "Number 10". He believed Suso can grow into the role over the years, but need is now. So he said he was on the lookout to fill this gap.

The Red Indian


 

 

15 Jan 2013 07:45:06
Real Madrid are prepared to cut loose Kaka from his contract.

El Economista says his dismissal against Osasuna was the final straw for Real management, which have attempted to find a buyer for Kaka for over 12 months.

Now, Real are prepared to hand Kaka a free transfer so to get his €15 million-a-year wages off the books.

Kaka is the highest paid at Real behind only Cristiano Ronaldo and there are some directors who privately rate him the worst signing


It shows he cares about the club, not like other captains saying "its up to the manager who he wants to buy". He wants the best for the club and always has.

FowlerGod.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 07:14:17
I visit this site daily and I fully appreciate what the eds do but it is seriously doing my head in reading some of the posts from so called fans.
As a club not so long ago we where in turmoil. Massive debt and owners who wanted to fleece us. Therefore the team suffered and with chelsea and man city having all their billions we got left behind.
This season we are settled and building towards the future. But it won't happen over night. Everytime we lose we have d##kheads on here writing fairytale wishlists and calling for brendan to be sacked and wanting to whoever is no longer their flavour of the month.
Get a life stop moaning and have some patience!


Mate, this post is so bad it's the actually proved that you are the d---head


While we wait and rebuild, the lower clubs in the league are getting better players, so as we wait, they get better and guess what we will be the lower club and they will be above us with the better players they bought while we was being patient, do you think that loic remmy is not good enough for our club or that are clus is not good enough for him, we won't sign anyone else, we want ince who we will get in the summer, again, i will ask you another question who is the better player remmy or ince, and seeing they cost the same amount of money the answer has to be remmy, or isnewcastle a bigger club the same goes for QPR, we have the better club, but why are we not going in for the better players and getting rid of players to reduce the wage bill, without experience and quality we will get relegated with our patience stance,

BR and FSG have doomed the club to relegation, its nothing to do with the results on the pitch it the goings on in the transfer windows, how many players have we bought in the last 2 windows, and how many players have left, work it out and don't believe BR and his BS the same goes for FSG and their BS, they are here to make money, its takes 2 years for us to get a striker to play with suarez, and then he gets left on the bench, but comes on and scores, do you think BR will leave DS on the bench again, i do in our next match, he does not want us to get our hopes up


How's he a d#ckhead when he's just doing what a normal does "Supporting" the team and manager and calling for him to be given time!!

Youd be The D#ckhead!

But I'd be doing a disservice to D#ckhead if I called you one.


Lyndon


OMG i am so sick of people moaning and then reading about people who are moaning about moaning how about everyone just shuts up unless they have something to say about football instead of everyone having a go at each other because what someone has typed is apparently 'not from a real fan'


People who rotate between slagging off The Players, owners, manager 24/7 deserve abuse.
Rodgers as been in charge half a season and people call for him to be sacked. The owners have been trying to square the club up from the times when RAFA was paying El Zhar 35'000 A week
Leave The Businessmen to do their jobs and the Manager to do his!


"i will ask you another question who is the better player remmy or ince" To this clueless, nameless poster

'Remy abandoned his plans to join Newcastle for £40,000 a week in double-quick time when he heard what was on offer at QPR'

It's greed, ok?! Pure greed! And he has a heart defect! You sure you want such a player at our club?!

Singred


Sturridge didn't start because he hasn't been training for ages at Chelsea it wouldn't have made a difference anyway in the first half the whole team was bad and we only had one shot the only reason he scored was because gerrard actually had a shot which he didn't do in the first half


 

 

15 Jan 2013 04:57:41
I think all we need is walcott or ben afra to cover that right wing and wed be flying, imagine sturridge up front with suarez behind him with borini/downing/sterling from the left and walcott or ben afra from the right, sounds deadly to me but do you think there's any chance of either?

Corkman


You lost me when you said downing


 

 

15 Jan 2013 04:45:04
With these rumours of Ben arfa all over the internet and maybe if we can offload downing if we get Taarabt as well, will probably have the most skillful, pacey and deadly attack in suarez, sturridge, taarabt and ben arfa..
I know its day dreaming but certainly they are not out of liverpool's financial limits especially with newcastle wanting carroll as well and qpr staring at relegation..


15 Jan 2013 07:52:09
I would love to have both tarbat and ben arfa..
perfect fit for liverpool...not expensive if we can get andy caroll and downing out...


If we need some 1 wif the initial of A are F A, is only SIMPLE RAFA.


I would love a Turbot for dinner too !!


 

 

15 Jan 2013 04:36:33
Espn reporting that 3 teams had a bid accepted for remy. Newcastle, QPR, and an unnamed team. Any idea who that team is? Thanks
Mike


Not us mate. We only buy young players.


Definitely not us..Br has not worked with him before and let's be honest, he is too good for BR's liking..as we all know now BR likes over hyped, average, British championship players..or young players who would be scared to question his system ..


 

 

15 Jan 2013 03:57:16
I know all this talk about sneijder coming to anfield is just wishful thinking but in my opinion this is the sort of signing we need to make either now or in the summer if we are to move forward and fighting for the top four.
It's all well and good buying for the future (and i like the sturridge signing) but if we want to challenge and keep up with the big money made clubs now, we need an experienced attacking mid(playmaker) or an accomplished winger, who is a proven goalscorer.
Might sound obvious, but if we keep buying in the hope they will flourish into stars and not buy proven players (if only one) for the immediate future that we know could make a difference, I fear we may fall even further behind in terms of points and status which will again lead to the struggle to attract the best and to keep hold of our assets.(Suarez)
So while we apparently have the money why can't we invest in the logical for a change? We are a huge club and we need to prove it.
Mush


 

 

15 Jan 2013 00:02:59
Hey ed's just wanted to hear your thoughts on Sneijders "YNWA" tweet? I know it may not mean much but you asked for a print-screen, which has been uploaded on the liverpool sightings page, you also asked if it is was his official account, i believe it was (1.1M followers), so could it mean anything? Probably not, but would appreciate a response.

AsianRed {Ed002's Note - I would doubt that you want to hear my opinion on it.}


I'd quite like to hear your opinion ed! {Ed002's Note - Does the Challenger 604 have wifi? Maybe he will Tweet again later today?}


I build the challenger 605 ed.

Gee man


Did anyone actually see the official tweet on this account or possibly just a photo-shopped picture someone posted?

Keith


15 Jan 2013 14:15:53
Does this all not sound like the Dempsey Saga of last summer, where NESN even reported he had signed for Liverpool.


15 Jan 2013 14:15:53
Does this all not sound like the Dempsey Saga of last summer, where NESN even reported he had signed for Liverpool.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 02:39:55
I cannot believe you muppets even dreaming about signing sneijder something like 200k pw when you are penniless, apart from that he isn't worth it

Pardoe


 

 

15 Jan 2013 02:32:33
There are pictures floating round on twitter, both Sneijder-related. Apparently theplayer tweeted "YNWA" before removing the tweet, while it was possible to get a Sneijder - 10 jersey from the club store, but that choice was later taken down. Take it as you will, the pictures may well be false I'm just passing on what I've heard (or seen).


 

 

15 Jan 2013 02:27:36
Eds,
Personally I believe that the Ince deal is dead. Coates does seem likely to leave on a loan this window, and from all reports this Norwegian impressed the coaches. I expect a wide player coming in. With a plethora of talent in holland (Lens, Mertens, and Narisngh are being valued up). I'd be surprised if a #10 comes in this window. I believe that the summer window will focus on players the caliber of (Isco, Eriksen, Belhanda maybe, etc.).
Hoping for a loan or two, some budding youngster or Gameiro still. Maybe a surprise purchase of Aubameyang. This window has a lot of momentum building up now. The silence is a good indicator. YNWA
-JM


B*******, the silence is the same as the last window. Feck all will happen. I actually believed we would make a signing last minute but the lights where turned out long ago.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 02:07:53
BR, has himself a wee predicament.
He talked up Allen, spent 15m, and now we are stuck with this useless hack.
Can't pass or tackle, so what is his use.
Does he wash Brendans undies!.


Listen to yourself you person. Allen is young and he had a bad 1st half at old trafford so you are slating him. How many players go there and have bad games? Give him a chance and give the team a chance. Its not going to get better over night!


Get a grip.

Allen ran the show early season.

The Squirrel


Hmmm player of the month in Sept. He's off form but not useless unlike your posts.

cozinoz


Allen is a good player. When he settles he will become a superstar mate. E needs some time that's all.


Its all the Rodgers out brigade who slate Allen simply because he's a BR signing!
JJ


Allen is struggling with the fact he is playing for LFC and the pressure that brings, Downing, Henderson and Carroll suffered the same.

He is not a bad player just needs find the correct mentality for playing for LFC, he struggled with the United game maybe the pressure and occasion got to him - we have to remember he like the majority of our squad is a young player.

From a purely tactical point of view i believe Gerrard, Lucas and Henderson is a more balanced midfield but I think Rodgers will persist with Allen due to him championing him, similar to Kenny with Henderson, Downing and Carroll.

I think we need another old head in midfield, remember we lost Kuyt, Maxi and Bellars all experienced players who did well in big games we need someone who can bring that level of experience.


15 Jan 2013 09:32:17
Surely he's played at utd with swansea and the same with all the other big grounds.i don't buy into all this pressure rubbish.he's just not good enough but because rodgers bought him he'll always be played even though there's clearly better players than him on the bench. Rodgers has alot to prove that he's fit for the job because we're not any further along since kenny or hodgeson were in charge. If anything we've gone backwards.


As Stephen Warnock said yesterday, playing for Liverpool brings a whole new pressure, so playing against UTD for us is different than playing with Swansea in the same game.
Having said that, with time he'll come good, we just needed more confident experienced players in games like Sundays!

Keith


Yes we should give him a chance but if he playing badly can BR not drop him or take him off or is he too much of a "pet"


Yes, lets just keep buying young players and waiting an eternity for them to settle in, because that's what champions do, oh wait they don't they spend cash on quality.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 02:04:56
I always have a great chuckle reading the posts after we lose or have a bad game (which has been quite often this season).
The posts are full of 'infinite' possibilities (signings), more like a kid compiling his 'letter to santa'.
Its really funny to read, every little bit of nonsense spills out and becomes a possibility.
Rumours, gossip and loads of bullsh*t...
Do some of you actually believe the cr*p you write, its really and truly...SILLY!.

We are such desperate fans, clasping at straws all the while.


All fans are the same regardless of club.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 01:49:59
ed2 you was right about BR and sturridge, i thought DS was a young plsayer at chelski while BR was there, my mistake, your right again, thanks for the info


 

 

15 Jan 2013 01:27:48
Brendan Rodgers has spent 15 million of a small budget on Joe Allen so you know he is going to start all the big games, unfortunately he is a very average player, out of his depth, weak, slow, can't tackle and his one thing he had going for him of keeping the ball has gone from his game, Henderson has far more potential, can run all day, physically stronger and will only improve into a top midfielder, if Rodgers showed Henderson the same confidence that he does in Allen then he would be flying.
Opposing midfielders will just steam roll past Joe Allen, every manager shows faith in a player that will eventually cost him his job, Allen will be the player that loses Rodgers his job.

Cobra


I'd put me mortgage on it that you were saying the same thing about Henderson last season and Lucas a few seasons before that, another mr know it all!
JJ


Check the posts i was praising Henderson a long time before he was favour of the month, i know talent when i see it.

Cobra


Therefore you would be homeless so, don't risk your mortgage.

Cobra


 

 

15 Jan 2013 00:02:59
Hey ed's just wanted to hear your thoughts on Sneijders "YNWA" tweet? I know it may not mean much but you asked for a print-screen, which has been uploaded on the liverpool sightings page, you also asked if it is was his official account, i believe it was (1.1M followers), so could it mean anything? Probably not, but would appreciate a response.

AsianRed {Ed002's Note - To be frank I would very much dout that you want my view on his Tweet.}


I reckon it was one of his friends acting the maggot. I seen it, its an official account as he is a regular tweeter. On the other hand I have been hearing the Ben Arfa rumours and would love for them to be true as we could offer them carrol in the summer plus I think they would love to have downing. BR has name dropped Ben Arfa a few times so obviously rates him.


 

 

14 Jan 2013 23:27:11
Ed002 needs to get in detective mode and see if this twitter account is legit or another Zaha fake. {Ed002's Note - You would need WonderDogSparky to do that and he and the boys are still recovering from today's "heavy" lunch."


 

 

15 Jan 2013 00:28:24
To an earlier comment, i think that allen and sterling should play with the reserves for the rest of the month, almost like a rehabilitation program after theyve both gone off the boil. Oh and all this allen and BR hatred is patheitic, there's really not that much to complain about at the moment so to those people please shut your pie hole and learn the virtue of patience.

Anonymous woolback


 

 

15 Jan 2013 00:21:47
are reporting Ben Arfa wants out of Newcastle and mentioned he wants to stay in England at either liverpool Chelsea or arsenal or go to PSG. As the other clubs have more quality and depth out wide then we do what do you think our chances would be and how much would he be worth. Only problem I see with him is injury but when he is playing he is top class!


I signed him in FIFA

Red Ollie


He is probably the best ball carrier in the world along with bale. I would love to have him.


 

 

15 Jan 2013 00:00:30
"The transfer policy isn't designed for success on the pitch mate it's designed for the accounts and ultimately FSGs pockets. - Ozone"

"Well can I spell this out in plain simple English to you Singred, Joe Allen isn't worth £5 mill let alone £15 mill.
- Ozone"

Your statements already show that FSG is willing to back the manager - Rodgers wanted Allen, and got him, despite the hefty fee. What Allen is worth to you is immaterial. How, then, do you justify that FSG is only concerned about their pockets?

Singred


15 Jan 2013 07:57:13
I was never and will never ever slate FSG..I think they are excellent...no one would spend over 120 mill in two season...
we bough some rubbishs..which is our mistake..not FSG..
I only wished they ahd some brains beofre sanctioning 15 mill on allen and 35 mill on caroll...
combined 50 mill..we would have had..3 excellent players..and we would have been in top 3 now...

Downing 20 mill...I consider it as a charity...


 

 

14 Jan 2013 23:46:38
Watched the Liverpool U21 game against Southampton earlier and I have to say Joao Carlos Teixeira looked very impressive - a class above the rest, almost. Jordon Ibe and Ryan McLaughin came on and played well too.

We dominated the game, especially the second half and they barely had any chances all game (bar a 5 minute scare at the end). Good game from the lads!

B101


 

 

14 Jan 2013 23:43:36
Watching Lfc tv agree with host and pundits ronnie wheel an and Steven warlock.Our Centre halfs don't talk as mush as Carra did.Ray Clemence was mentioned as a talker in past.And Stevie spoke about as not talking enough perhaps.Theyve all said you need strong players mentally to go to places they called daunting like o/t.And all agreed we ain't got themor enough leaders/Communication on the pitch.So Brendan/Fsg let's start looking for Skillfull but a strong personality players/leaders/Communicators.Because I agree with them.Our Great sides had at least 6 Strong characters/real determined winners who could play as well on the pitch


 

 

14 Jan 2013 23:38:27
Sneijder isn't coming accept it. The sooner you face the reality that we can't afford his wages the better.
Cloud cuckoo land.

Neo


And we don't need him.


 

 

14 Jan 2013 23:33:02
I really don't know what the muppets in charge of identifying transfer targets are doing .how can they not see we need a defensive midfielder.what is wrong with mvila and sissoko or even diame.we lack ambition as a club, remy is a player we should be bidding for not ince, why can't we bid for honda, benat or even isco, not liverpool they rather spend it on 3 prospects who won't do the job of what 1 quality signing can do

Its all getting clearer how rodgers got the job, put a puppet in charge you can control to do what you want.suarez most likely would be gone in the summer, he can profess his love for liverpool all day long but he is at his peak and wants to challenge for trophies and liverpool won't give him that

If you think FSG are here to win trophies with liverpool rather than fill their pockets then you are deluded.


Wakey, wakey!

There are no certainties as we know from experience with some of the recent transfers we all know about. People sometimes forget that the inflated prices paid are in part due to the 'perceived' influx of cash following the cowboys years of lies and folly and FSG entering the frey...

The manager, manages and selects his targets strategically, not just for now, but for the future too - 3 and 5 years. Man you senior team has an average age of 32 mostly Scholes and Giggs (oops) but even then is hardly 'vital', their less experienced 1st team players are around 25. In some respects this could be considered a team at its absolute prime, providing the either have or can afford within FFP the replacement resources and they gel to give a finished product...

LFC's equivalent is 28 and 22 - that's a balance of experience and energy, get them matureing playing as a coherent team and in a season or two with the RIGHT additions from outside the club and a few from the ranks internally, not only will we be balancing the books and salaries (unlike MCFC which WILL cripple them cause nobody will leave for less than £7.5m per year salary) but we will have a challenging team, squad and club...

Brendan Rogers has a vision. Please don't suggest we buy every player with a price, its misguided and pointless, teams are build not bought, ED's

Suffolk'n Red


What fantastic bile-filled tripe you spout. 'Fans' like you we can do without, even if you are one, which I doubt. Or is it 'mad dog paranoia' with FSG out to wreck the club (forgetting that the clubs success is everything in monetary terms. You'd make a great drinking mate for Ozone ......

ND


15 Jan 2013 01:29:26
Mate how can you blame FSG they have given Rodgers more then 60M+ to spend at the sametime Ian ayre has said money is no problem we are in a position to sign any player if needed its up to Rodgers to choose them and don't forget they even accepted to pay 100+k aweek to Sahin who Rodgers wantend for a year loan, they have done everything to help Rodgers if you want to blame someone then that has to be Rodgers who have massively failed to improve our team or league position despite spending more then 60M+ don't forget Rodgers didn't want director or people who would help him in transfer market so Rodgers have a lot of power when comes to wanting players as Ian ayre said is up to Rodgers to choose players. So lay of FSG, if Rodgers wanted Sneijder so badly he would convince owners and get him like he did with sahin. the question is does Rodgers really want sneijder? Fans can say what they want but reality is we don't know what players Rodgers wants or will Sneijder fit our systeam coz he is more suited to play behind striker, but in Rodgers systeam that option is cut we play 4-3-3 so sneijder will have to adjust his game he will have to track back to help us deffending which he doesn't like, if he fails that will coast the club more then jo cole or have you forgoten sahin we all thought he is going to solve our problems. Its a very, very big risk mate reputation is nothing in footy sahin is big example we need to be very carefull signing players on that kind of wages coz if they fail then shifting them becomes big problem


Exactly. All you have to do to get MVila, Sissoko and Diame is click the 'Buy Now' button and suddenly your Fifa 13 team has improved.
Oh sorry, you're talking about real life?

cozinoz


I would have to disagree that Fsg are here to win trophies. I personally think they are have with Champions League football every year. Any trophies are a bonus in my opinion.

The Irish Rover


15 Jan 2013 08:03:43
6 mill remy is miles better than 8 mill ince...
mvilla..diame or sissokho..is a steal at their price...
we should have never bought 3 players....
downing, allen and caroll...
now we are struggling to find a buyer for them..
70 mill spend on these players...
can you believ that...I am stil in shock...
with 70 mill we could have bought the EPL...


 

 

14 Jan 2013 23:29:37
Ed this mystery tweet have you seen or beleave there's anything in it cheers.MATTYLFC {Ed001's Note - I have seen the screenshot, I very much doubt there is anything in it at all. It makes no sense.}


 

 

 
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