Liverpool Banter Archive January 15 2012



 

15 Jan 2012 23:49:38
Just as I was beginning to get some of my life back, Bruce makes those comments and gets me all wrapped up in the transfer window excitement again.

Better prepare to be opening up this website every 5 minutes for the rest of the month

x


 

 

15 Jan 2012 23:49:07
nice to see everything's cooled off a bit since saturday...


Only because the anonymous Manc posters have run out of abuse


 

 

15 Jan 2012 23:44:29
just watching some you tube vids of Kerlon he is amazing with his head dribble known as the seal dribbler, any idea how much he cost eds surely would be fairly low {Ed002's Note - There is no interest.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:58:48
Evening Ed I'm genuinely disappointed to hear that Jonson has been banned, I know he got a little angry at times (quite often with me) but I agreed with a lot of his views and respected the views I didn't agree with. Is there anyway back for the lad?

Chris in Tamworth {Ed001's Note - you may be disappointed, but you didn't have to spend your time removing his abuse.}


{Ed002's Note - I am sure he will come back at some point if he agrees to play nice.}


Sorry I asked!

Chris in Tamworth


I quite enjoyed the regular local derby of jonson9 vs Chris in Tamworth. Sometimes heated affairs but never short of controversy or incident.

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:58:11
I would love Defoe at this club! He is a true finisher and would GREATLY improve our striking problems.

KickingBro {Ed001's Note - a true finisher that took about 20 years to get 100 goals in the Prem! He is a very average player who is over rated because he is English and plays for 'Arry.}


It would be pointless he's not good enough and gets homesickness I think

Square tomato


Good ode cockney wideboy No VAT tabloid darling Arry!!!


189 goals in 455 appearances
Another player who you obviously dislike and allow your personal opinion to misrepresent

Chris in Tamworth
{Ed001's Note - not true, I don't rate him, not dislike him. I am not 5 years old, I am capable of putting my personal feelings aside when judging a player. His stats are not taking into account the number of games missed through injuries. As I repeatedly point out, he is injury prone and misses games, we already have enough players to be managed, we need players who are not going to miss large chunks of every season. Plus he is 29, doesn't have any interest in leaving London. What is there about him that suggests he is a good buy?}


He does look quite cute with blond hair Ed.

dmedly


No offence KickingBro you sound like your harry redknapp trying to peddle your crap on to us we don't want him sell him to QPR


EdI agree with ur views...then bring torres back..leave what s**t he has done..he was lied..he stayed..and scored fastest 50 goals for us..u cant earse that hisstory...lets be honest..we need someone like him..let him that someone...even gerrard wants him back...


Just a point like but if were going on stats for this squad were in big trouble...look at what that got us in the last two transfer windows.........


A goal every second game or thereabouts is not bad by any standard


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:55:55
Can I just say that I'm in goa at the moment and there are absolutely no rumours out here....the weather's fantastic though!


What about the sanitary situation?

dmedly


Check out Palolem beach while youre there

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:50:21
The players we are being linked with are absolute s****. Looks like the fsg idea of buying players with a good re sale value has been blown out of the water after 1 year with hendo.downing. And Carroll, if we sold these three Tommorow I reckon we would have lost the best part of 30m. The purse string are being kept tight this window and who can blame them. Ironic really that 30m could prob get us the world class striker we so desperatley need. Looks like we'll have to loan un prooven striker from somewhere in Europe to solve our problems. Were as arsenal are absolutely ruthless in the transfer Market we have been shocking for years and still are....dave


I'd much prefer Liverpool to pay around the £8-10 million mark for the linked players like Granero, Coutinho, De Jong, Lodeiro or Hoilett than pay another £20-25 million for a British "star" (Defoe, etc) that will settle quick ....... or so they keep saying.

-Shane.


The inflated fees of those 3 have been done to death now. Forgetting the money i would rather have each one of them than not have them. can we talk about something else?

x
x


Why is Henderson getting so much s**t? 16million is a great price for him considering how young he is and the fact that he's playing well... Downing and Carroll haven't made their impact just yet but some of you act the world really is going to end in December and this is our last chance. Support the team, support the players. What Liverpool has always been about, we praise and support the players and they reward us with trophies. No support = No trophies.


It is NOT FSG Or Comollis' decision on which players to buy but the final decision is KENNYS! He is the manager and as Comolli has stated he only recommends players that he has scouted but its up to the Manager to say YES OR NO, and only then when the manager has said YES to any particular player-FSG will be requested to provide funds and sanction the transfer,
But the key person here who is responsib;e for buying all this british garbage is DALGLISH!!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:51:34
Eds, how much do you put in the Bruce Grobbelaar comments about a couple of strikers on its way to Liverpool? Lets face it, Kenny never said no players will be signed or what, he simply said he was happy with his squad and didnt think it would be that much of heavy action at the transfer market. and a small note about Raheem Sterling, do you reckon he is closer to first team action than ever now?

cheers {Ed002's Note - I am not close enough to know if it is good information or not.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:47:01
any news on that martinez guy


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:43:06
Esteban Granero & Mousa Sow in, top 4 nailed on then!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:43:02
Liverpool are only about 3 players short of being back in the top 4. Defensively Liverpool have been the best team in the Premier league even better than Man city because city carry the advantage of being so potent in attack which means opposing teams deploy defensive formations against them making defending easier for city.

Players that Liverpool could sign:

Fernando Llorente
Esteban Granero
Adam Johnson
Scott Sinclair

These players would give Liverpool the extra edge required to start scoring goals regularly and break into the top 4.


Still 3 more playerws to make it top 4????? the nhow much more to challenge the title dude...?


Scott Sinclair? Sorry, but he's not good enough. If he was, he be still at Chelsea. I think his attitude is terrible too as Ed1 stated before. {Ed001's Note - his ability is good enough, it was his attitude that let him down.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:37:27
Only thing that matters to me this transfer window is that we bring in players who want to play for LFC and will give their all.

PM


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:25:27
Has anyone heard of any activity at Melwood tonight?


Theres a rumour doing the rounds that the grass is growing!
JayB


Where's **e***** when you need him?

dmedly {Ed002's Note - Having a medical at Melwood.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:15:51
Anyone know about this away goal when we beat City? Is it like the European competitions where it counts for 2 in the event of a draw because I thought it only counted as 1 regardless of where scored?

Spriggo


The away goals only count in the Carling Cup, if the 2nd leg goes to extra time and the teams, are still level after both legs.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


 

 

15 Jan 2012 22:01:04
Macca I believe we made a progress from last year but I also believe we made a lot of mistakes. I won't say Carroll which obviously was a desperate last minute move for 35 mil., I will say we could have bought Mata instead of Downing and Im sure Mata didnt have problem to join us. Enrique was a bargain, Adam I think given time he will repay and Henderson is going to be massive for us, I can see his potentials. Unfortunately in the summer we didnt pay that little extra for just one big name and Im afraid we are going to pay that dearly. And lets not forget 4th place is something like live or die for us. If we dont get the 4th place is going to take us much more years to develop the team to challenge for the title.

We just needed that one big name to "secure" the 4th place and they missed that piece in the summer. And yes it was going to be easy because just look how many points we lose at Anfield just because we dont finish our chances! {Ed001's Note - we could not have just got Mata instead of Downing, it is not that simple. Why do people think these incredibly inane things??}


So one mistake not a lot


Ed, you explain why not then please... {Ed002's Note - It is never simply a case of putting up the transfer cash and the player moving. There has to be a desire to move and there has to be an agreeable package for the player.}


Plus i know chelsea fans that are getting fed up with mata making the wrong choices

x


Apparently Sid Lowe among others confirmed that Mata was willing to come to Anfield. Don't know if this is true or not, but if so, I believe it was a mistake to prefer Downing. Oh well. Hindsight 20/20. {Ed001's Note - but his wages were an issue.}


His wages was an issue but the player obviously worths every penny and we knew about it. So why not pay that little bit extra money in order to secure 4th place? What's the point of the policy if the players we get will never have resale value? It was a huge mistake not to get at least one big name and its going to cost us. Even Tottenham are buying/making deals with big names and look at them now!

And to the guy who said about chelsea fans that are complaining about Mata, probably they are clueless like you. Mata is probably their best player currently.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:58:16
2 goals for remy tonight against lille


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:43:07
Just a little question to the eds or any one else. It sounds far fetched but do you think with Bruce coming out saying we're looking at 2 strikers and one coming soon. Would you think kenny mite have asked his old mate to let this out to halt the fans frustration after drawing an other game at home 0-0. Just asking as mad as I sound would appreciate feed back tar

Redman j4t96 {Ed001's Note - more likely he was asked a question and answered it, nothing more to it.}


Thanks 4 reply ed {Ed001's Note - you are welcome.}


I'd like to think that Kenny wouldn't be too happy with Bruce. If it is true, then why did Bruce have to say anything at all, about our transfer targets? Especially if Kenny told him in confidence and especially Bruce saying it, in an interview with Talksh*t.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Brucie is known for his good predictions.
He's often called Bruce Foresight.
Rigsby.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:38:59
A long read but i feel it's worth it on the subject

it seem's unbelievable that stevie g's debut was in 1998, it is astonishing, and almost quite sad to think that it has been 14 years since LFC has produced a player ANY....where near a player of gerrards quality, i mean ok fair enough, you can say he's a total one off, because face it, it's gerrard, one of the world's very best players, but there has been nobody close, spearing is good enough for the first team, but just good enough, flanno has shown promise but no more, neil mellor was ok, and no more than that, martin kelly may be the one who could break the mould and go on and be a regular first team player for many years, but not one single player has walked out at anfield and the crowd gone...my my, something special has just hit us, the sparkling displays gerrard gave as such a young man may never be seen again, it's almost like the quality and sheer amazing talent he has become has ruined our own youth system because to produce 2 players like that in the same century would be almost unbelievable,

let's face it with the way football is now sucess has to be instant, managers are basically in a situation where they daren't trust 1 or 2 youth players to shine because a run of 3 or more defeats can have your job lost in the current climate, this is the problem with youth now, a manager would rather go out and spend 20 million on what he needs than bring through what he has at home, teams like villa have more chance of bringing through quality and making it brilliant because mid-table mediocrity is about all they will ever aspire to, same with everton, so they can rely on youth, any team that finishes higher than 7th every season can forget playing and trusting youth players because expectations are to high to take the risk,

2nd half of last season flanno and robinson got a real run in the 1st team, simple fact of that was we had injuries and the players we had were'nt that good, flanno and robinson aren't getting a look in this season, enrique and johnson will start every league game when their fit and healthy, kenny ammited enrique had a stomach bug and he still played this weekend, in the current climate of having to have instant sucess a youth system is dead, and it's a damn shame, the only way it will ever improve is if certain restraints are brought in on the amount of foreign players you can sign, and let's face it with race rows and the country as a whole not wanting to upset other countrys throughout the world that will never happen !

Solutions anyone??


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:38:26
I live on deyesbrook lane, (opposite melwood) and I can absolutely confirm that I've just seen neymar and his agent drive through the gates in a delta taxi.

Billy billsheet


Pretty sure hes agreed to join barca in a couple of years


Was anyone hurt, hope the gates were open.


I hope that last reply isn't what i think eds..

Stu.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:37:08
I agree with Macca, we are in a good position re domestic cups, plus if we had a bit more luck (hitting woodwork etc) we would be higher up in the table, Carroll will come good , just taking a little longer,we need patience. Keep the faith
YNWA
Lee


Sorry mate, just can't see AC coming good for us, as the supply he needs is not forthcoming. AC has had time, but it is simply not working out for him and the club.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:34:44
hey ed any reason why lfc website have disabled comments on all articles?.RedTurk {Ed001's Note - I can comment on there.}


On which article? every 1 i chek it sais comments are closed for this article.RedTurk {Ed001's Note - I don't know, I just went on there and tried, whatever one was on the top at the time.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:28:56
Have we lost jonson9, Eds? I used to enjoy his posts (and their lack of punctuation) - always used to bang the doom-mongerers heads together

cozinoz {Ed001's Note - he has been banned.}


How comes ed {Ed002's Note - He is resting for a whil, the reason is irrelevant.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:18:43
Edd what is your opinion on taking two talented players from our youth teams. David ngoo is a big presence and scores goals regularly. And Rahim Sterling is a natural finisher too. Look at the likes of Rooney, he played at age 16 was good. worth a try? {Ed001's Note - neither are physically ready for the first team. Rooney was physically ready at 15, there is a huge difference.}


And also to be fair we dont want these lads starting to early and ending up with countless injuries
LeeWils


Both habe played regularly for the Reserves this season (16 matches each) - Sterling has scored FOUR goals and Ngoo ONE. That's not the scoring rate that we need at this moment.
Dutchmal.


Adam Morgan is ready as is Conor Coady


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:13:54
Hi Eds

So it looks like Lodeiro and Countinho are on there way , both would be exciting sighings as they both have pace and creativity !!

In your opinion good signings or not ( as you are much more clued up then me )

Koppite GA {Ed001's Note - personally I rate them both highly, so yes they would be good signings.}


Why does it look like there on the way?


Coutinho i am very excited about, Lodeiro ain't seen enough off him to judge, but if ed001 rates them highly then its good enough for me.

BigD


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:22:49
I know Wiki can be edited and I really want Carroll to do well but I couldn't resist pasting this from Wiki:

"César David Texeira Torres (born 27 February 1991) is a Uruguayan footballer who plays as a striker for the Dutch club FC Groningen. He has not joined Liverpool FC, but can't be any worse than Andy Carroll."

Mr Benn


Currently is "César David Texeira Torres...... He's like Andy Carroll without the pony tail."

Good auld wikipedia :P

Ska-oop


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:21:25
Seems as though I have upset OZONE and some other no named poster for speaking my mind about whingeing supporters and negative posts.

I give up......they win....

I will not be posting for a while guys, its been great having banter with the real posters and the EDs are incredible, but enough is enough, too much negativity for me guys

tel 1949


Tel 1949 dont let them put you off mate this is a site for everyone and in fact ive seen your views and agree with them.


Should just ignore them Tel, what i generally do.

Imagine how Ed001 feels with the carp he must delete, then you will fell better lol.

KT!


I see where your coming from mate.

I don't even bother coming on here after games now, all that will happen is me getting annoyed!

Stu.


AH you poor little boy,bed early new day tomorrow.

Derek


Sort yourself out tel 1949, there's nothing personal in a difference of opinion. If I've offended in anyway I apologise. However I cannot deny that being critical about a certain aspect of our team invites a barrage of doommongery abuse.

As you know, I have a hang up with Carroll, my opinions have been expressed on here in detail. I read some of the posts criticising Kenny and find it incredible that a red could ever contemplate denouncing him in any form, he's a legend to me and if he took us down into the championship I wouldn't have it in me to criticise him.

I feel Carroll will prove to be a monkey on Kenny's back and is certainly not showing any respect for the faith Kenny showed in bringing him to the club.

No hard feelings pal, that's the beauty of football, it's all about opinions.

Ozone


Grow a pair kid god....


He'll be back. This site is like heroin..... I know I should be doing something else.... I tried to leave before..... but I just want to be here...

Mark my words.

He will return.

BJH YNWA.


Im unamed and get agressive ozone wiyh idiots saying support another club if you have alternate view.And sadly Tel is oneve them.If the insults stopped=Red4 life etc.Then we could argue points maturely.But when attacked=kb an d Mikey(though not lately) used to also,its natural to defend in same manner


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:56:24
Hey ed(s) whats the dealio with VILLYAN BIJEV who is currently at fortuna dusseldorf is it a problem with a work permit the reason he aint at liverpool?

ACHILLES. {Ed002's Note - Yes.}


U think bijev will make it at liverpool, ed?
Indian Buzzer {Ed002's Note - I really have no idea, he is still young and there will be a better idea next season.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:17:10
Is this interview from last year ,which he could have been talking about suarez


I thought that to a striker close to signing south American playing in holland Suarez and another striker which was carroll


If you listen to the interview it mentions recently signed players like adam and hendo and downing


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:07:49
Daniel Sturridge and Junior Hoillet would be fantastic imo


 

 

15 Jan 2012 21:01:05
I wonder how many times 35m has been mentioned this year on this site, sick of readin it. Go and support a quick fix team like city if u cant see the bigger picture. Lets not slate players, get behind them and look at positives for players who ARE performing well, skrtel, agger, enrique, jay, bellars. Support the team, and wish them all well, they all play for lfc. Sick of the negativity. Roblfc86


Probably every god damn day, time to give it a rest, SURELY...?!!

the fee wasn't the players fault at all, and in truth liverpool shouldn't have paid it, i appreciate KK probably wanted andy, obviously really wanted him, and i can understand that because at newcastle he was a beast,

but there is no question we were held to ransom and we shouldn't have let that happen, obviously you could say he was free due to the 50 million chelsea gave us for torres but none the less we paid it, i also think liverpool FC and kenny just being made manager wanted to show a clear statement to the world and all the other big spenders that hey...were here to you know and were not afraid to play your big moeny game either, but andy wasn't worth that money, i think at the time 15-20 million would have been fair do's to take newcastles best player off their hands, he can't live up to his price tag and it's a damn shame, he's a good lad, he's a good player, but it has certainly weighed him down, and the real lack of service to that kind of player hasn't helped at all,

so many of our wide players CUT BACK, rather than beat a man get to the by line and cross to....carroll they will cut back and play safe, even though he didn't start against stoke i was there and downing did it with almost every attack, no wonder KK had him off,

we should have waited until the summer and paid alot less, at that time there was NO WAY we were getting into the champions league from the position we were in, we should have just put kuyt up top wit suarez or played 5 in midfield and suarez as a lone striker and waited until the summer and not been ripped off, it has affected carroll and LFC's reputations on carroll not being worth it and LFC paying over the odd's for players not worth the money, clubs will now demand we pay a hefty fee for decent players, example - henderson !! we will struggle to ever sign a top player for a reasonable fee after the carroll signing, thank goodness we agreed the suarez fee before andy's otherwise ajax might have wised up and gone hang on, you really want him? another 15 million will do it or you can kiss our as#....!


Would have thought with the timing of it that £35m was a very expensive attempt at a quick fix and a pretty inept one at that.

Derek


Roblfc86 who are you or anyve the others to tell anyone to support.Its a below belt comment that should be met with equal distain.grow up


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:45:21
hi macca,at the moment we are in 6th not to far away from 4th,but at the start of the season kenny was hoping for better than 4th spot ,which id say we would all take 4th now ,u also mention we approached alot of players who wernt interested in joining us ,under raffa we were a real force in the champs league and seemed to be able to attract the very best ,i look at what we had reina,arbloea,skrtel,agger,aruilio,alonso,masherano,reira,kuyt,gerrard,torres.
and could have possibley had villa,silva if the owners had of backed raffa after finishing 2nd,
how far away do u think we are now of having a team as good as this and do u think kenny can attract the big quality players ,
thanks
jeff


I think our current squad is the best in ages.

x


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:43:50
Would you rather have Andy Carroll or Grant Holt & Danny Graham?


Messi


Andy Carroll


None of the above.


Grant holt

Ozone


Not messi, terrible footballer, no pace, no brain and no clue.


Bring back heskey...


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:39:13
Lissandro Lopez anyone?


Hi, yes over here - I'm Lissandro Lopez. What do you want?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:38:41
Is or has their ever been any interest in the following?
a mcgeady
m gomez
Llorente
defoe
cardozo?of benfica

dannybhoy


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:38:36
Its all happenimg tonite lads!!
Twitters gone overdrive.

Rob


What are these idiots saying today?


Not really just few people saying david texiera and the bruce grobbelar interview and then just retweeting.so nothings happening.DORSET RED


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:37:40
We should buy Dusan Tadic IMO, he is two footed can beat his man, looks the part and has impressive record:

2010/2011 = 34 matches - 10 goals and 18 assists

2011/2012 = 17 matches - 3 goals and 7 assists


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:35:26
Liverpool considering moving Anfield to Uruguay after signing Suarez, Coates and in the hope of getting Cavani


That will at Least help Liverpool to "settle" in a different league.


There is already a Liverpool F.C. in Uraguay


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:33:57
Unless Liverpool have managed to keep a deal under wraps all day, I cant see why a deal would be happening at this time of day. Not deadline day yet! What do you think eds?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:31:20
here is my team after january window;

------------------reina-----------------
---johnson-skrtel-agger-enrique----
-----------gerrard--spearing--------
-downing-------lodeiro-----hoilett-----
------------------suarez-----------
bench pick from:doni/kelly/carra/coates/henderson/adam/carroll/bellamy/castaignos

ins:
luc castaignos loan
lodeiro 8m
hoilett 8m

outs:
kuyt 5m
maxi 3m

DORSET RED


Spearing NOT good enough


Oh yes, he is.

BooDaBooze


Spearing is definitely better than adam n hendo.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:30:06
hi ed this is a question for macca ,hi macca what is ur opinion on the return of raffa benitez at the end of the season ,hes out of a job at the moment and im just wondering do u think there is any chance he could be given another chance under the new owners,
coutinho to pool i hope
thanks
jeff


Who could answer that question?

Not even John Henry never mind anyone else.

What a dipstick!


Only asked macca his opinion on did he think raffa would be considered for the job


Good answer,What a dipstick!..dont like your user name doh!!


Dipstick isn 't d word... wat u on bout?give daglish a chance wil u he will come good


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:22:59
Macca needs to take his tinted red specs off! We all want LFC to do well but I'm afraid KK has spent a large bulk of money on mid-table players. I know not being in CL will effect who you can sign but there are a lot of forwards that could of been signed for £35m.
I agree LFC are playing attractive football, but it's results that count.
No time for loyalty in football - Kuyt, Maxi, Spearing out / N Dyer, Elia & Remy in! In need of fast attacking players!! {Ed001's Note - and you moaned about mid-table players and want us to sign Elia and Remy! Madness.}


No time for loyalty - go follow Man City then


Elia & Remy are young exciting talents that WILL be big stars I'm sure of it. I see Spurs linked with Remy (Harry Redknapp in crowd watching him Sunday) & yet we are linked with Spurs cast offs..... bad times!
You name me 2 better players with speed, skill & technique which we'd probably get for a combined total of £40m & have good sell on fees?


Yea im sure djibirile cisse was rated higher than remy look how that turned out


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:12:52
A South American playing in Holland? Maybe Bruce is about 12 months too tate as we have already sighed Suarez! Ha!


David Texeira


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:09:09
Are any of the Ed's on twitter? What's your names? YNWA {Ed002's Note - No idea, it is like a kiddies thing righ? Certainly I am not.}


Yeah Ed's tell us your address too ;0)


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:06:00
In response to the macca post asking for opinions:
I agree that we have improved as a team. We seem much more capable of keeping the ball and now seem a lot happier in possession (69% yesterday?) than we did last year or even at the very start of the season. I also agree that the players we have bought are good acquisitions and I am very glad to see the club buying players that want to be here. I do have a couple of niggling concerns however.
I fear for Andy Carroll a little. I get the impression that the club are trying to change him into a different player, lots of talk about new diets and training regimes etc. While I understand why they want to do this to help him fit into our style of play, I think it's a dangerous thing to attempt, it must be playing havoc with his confidence. He is probably second guessing everything he's instincts tell him to do now which will only give two results, he'll either learn from it and become a great player or it will destroy him mentally. My other thought is that we seem to lack that final killer instinct. While I know Suarez's (s'. s?) talent is visible for all to see, and I for one am extremely glad he is a Liverpool player we seem to have fewer players in the box every passing game. Carroll, Suarez and Kuyt all see to be dropping deep and we lack some one making runs in behind the defence to turn the opposition and get them on the back foot. If we do acquire any players this window i think it has to be either a poacher or a player for the wide right but true quality signings in these positions are few and far between and probably very expensive so I can see it not happening to be honest.
We're definitely on the right track, although 4th might be a bit of a stretch this season, but as they said on 5live earlier, if all you need is to put a few more chances away, you're really not very far away at all.

London Red


 

 

15 Jan 2012 20:05:27
I think I know why Carrol is not performing for Liverpool. After a great deal of analysis i have concluded that when playing for Newcastle he would have all day booze sessions. He needs to spend all day in Wetherspoons before the next game.

Serioulsly though , as for Carrol you look at his goals for Newcastle and those two goals against City last season and you have to wonder where it is all going wrong.

I think we need pace up front badly and a world class creative player to link up with Suarez. And most of all be a bit more positive that is get more players in the box when we attack.

Regarding getting new players will the Americans be confident of handing over a load of money again after the failure of Downing, henderson and Carroll. Although Henderson looks like he could come good over time. Hopefully they will.

I am not going to jump on the Kenny out bandwagon yet. There has been many positives this season: enrique, Suarez (apart from the recent incident), Coates, Skrtel, Agger, Kelly, Gerrard return, Spearing, Adam( when he has better players up front with better movement he will come good), Pepe, Bellamy and Johnson.

We are nearly there but we need to be a bit more positive at home and couple of strikers who know how to put the ball in the back of the net.

Steve068


Take a look at Carroll last year and now, he seems much leaner and fitter, he just needs time. He is ungoing massive changes which will lead him to be just as strong but more mobile. When he was bought Kenny and Comolli both said he was not bought for now but for the next 5.5 years.

Swwetcorn


He has lost weight. He looks gaunt. I believe he is literally shrinking under the weight of expectation, and criticism. I feel for the lad. He never wanted to leave Newcastle, and now he is trying too hard, and has lost all confidence. This has been an epic mistake all round. Never again should we spend this much money on a player who does not want to come.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:57:46
www.facebook.com/pages/Ed002-Appreciation-Society/295138177203666


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:55:41
What Liverpool need right now to lift the gloom around the place, to put the Racist slurs against us to bed and to try and forget these boring home draws is a.... NEW SIGNING...

Come on Mr.Henry splash the cash lift the spirit of your club, make a statement go out and buy us a quality Striker and a super Right winger...

Let's talk about something positive for a change, and let's get back to being the greatest football team in the world...

The Grand wizard...


Would you trust current management team with millions of pounds after their recent history of signings that is Andy Carrol, Downing, Henderson...

that is big question to be answered.

Hopefully so but it aint my money.

Steve068


Henderson was not a bad signing and has steadily got better all season for the love of (deity of your choice) please stop moaning about him. He will at some point be worth a lot more than we paid for him.

-DJ-


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:49:22
Ed's any information on what ever happened Christian poulsen he is class player I would love to see him back and also bring back David ngog he would surely sort out our lack of goals!

Banana bandit {Ed002's Note - Interestingly, Liverpool are still paying the majority of Poulsen's wages.}


Yeah I forgot about him earlier ed002! Apart from Poulsen, Cole & Aqua? Are Liverpool paying anyone elses wages who are out on loan?

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - I don't know but I suspect there will be a contribution, but I am pretty sure the other s are youngsters and will be on less wages.}


Most idiotic post I have come across on this site. Congratulations.


Poulsen was absolute crap mate


Roger ed002! Would the part that Liverpool pay for Cole,Poulsen & Aqua's wages amount to £5 million for the season? It's a fair amount to pay out on players you don't use when the club is running at a £20-30 million loss.

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - It is broadly around that mark doing a quick calculation.}


The replies to this are either trolls or from complete idiots, how can you not see the sarcasm here?!


Irony is lost on many people on this site, wouldn't worry to much about it.

slimboy


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:39:51
Henderson!! la la la la henderson!! la la la la
get behind him next game man and stop moaning he will be a great footballer in the future just needs to shoot a bit more, get a few more goals and needs some motivation and confidence


I agree.

Ozone


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:05:35
What happens if Kenny buys Soldado and he turns out to be just like Morientes?

What will the righteous say?


What happens if he turns out like fowler


What happens if he turns out like Sean Dundee :0)


What if he turns out like Torres. I'd take him in the morning who would you rather Bent?

Dar88


Rather Bent than Torres

cozinoz


The player that is most likely to a Sean Dundee is the bundesliga player that everybody seem to want, Podolsky. A bottler at big clubs.

BooDaBooze


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:01:48
My biggest fear this transfer window is not that Kenny won't have any money to spend, but that he will spend even more trying to get players to support Carroll.

Ash


Ash, you were complaining last game that KK had a 35m player on the bench instead of playing


No I wasn't. Can't you read?

Ash


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:01:17
Rumours on Talksport of LFC signing a South American playing in Holland.

Could be David Texeira of FC Groningen....and he,s Uruguayan....possibly recommended by Suarez and Coates ?

Looks a good strong forward !


Didn't he just get there? The lad has something like twelve games played in Holland? Seems unlikely to me.

Canadian Fan


I heard it was Lodeiro of Ajax who is a close friend of Suarez and only has 6 months left on his contract

Super SG


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:00:59
Guys, the striker rumours are true according to Bruce Grobbelaar
K.Bennett


What does he know? I doubt he has anything to do with transfers.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 19:00:10
I am liverpool fc through and through, but i have to say Andy Carroll is the worst bit of buisness Liverpool fc and infact any team have ever done.
Lets face it, we are 1 year on and still no promise. people on here moan and say it takes time, it didnt take augero time, or suarez time ? And they show flair, creativity and always try.

Andy Carrolls

PROS
- Wins the ball in the air. ( does he infact do this, i havent seen to much, and if he does win the ball it is never in a vital area, it never leads to a goal)
- Strong and poweful ( He looks weak and gets pushed off the ball )

CONS
- Never ever ever ever gives enough effort, stands and moans
- Always in the wrong position
-Poor control
-Awful first touch
-- gives off a CANT BE ARSED APPROACH

lets face it, we rushed the deal, 35m for someone whos main strength was heading a ball. absolutely horrific. we should of waited and used the money sensibiliy.
i think if we give Andy Carroll any more time we will go no were it annoys me when people say give him time. At best he is sunday league, i am starting to passionately hate the guy. How is he a proffesional footballer worth 35m the world has gone mad.

PLEASE SOME ONE TELL ME WHY WE SHOULD KEEP HIM, OTHER THAN THE FACT HE IS YOUNG AND ENGLISH IT MEANS NOTHING.
LTP The Red


I couldn't agree more.

Ozone


Torres to Chelsea for 50m was a worse piece of business by any team by a long shot.
Carroll has been on much better form than Torres in the last 12 months.

MIKEY


Do you think Carroll could have pulled off the volley against the crossbar today that led to Chelsea's goal?

Torres is in a different class to Carroll. It didn't work out for reasons unrelated to his ability.


Torres has glimpses of brilliance at chelsea which is more than can be said bout andy carroll.

ACHILLES. {Ed001's Note - be difficult for Carroll to show glimpses of brilliance at Chelsea.....}


Hmmm Schevchenko to Chelsea was pretty poor. Dudek took his confidence and the Premier League took his legs!!
Seriously though, Barca bought Ibrahimovic for mega millions and had to cut their losses as he didn't suit their style of play - we may have to admit the same.


Dalglish must see things we don't in training don't rite him off just yet back him while he's there remember Lucas now we cannot w8 till he's back I urge every fan to please please hang on and support him personally it may be more valuable than panic buyin on a player how may not fit in straight away. But I would still like a nippy striker to add to our strike force we do fall short of a goal machine

Kop king


"Do you think Carroll could have pulled off the volley against the crossbar today" - maybe, maybe not....but its indicative of Torres for when idiots like you start praising him for hitting the woodwork. He still has scored less than Carrol with a hell of a lot more minutes on the pitch.

cozinoz


Sorry, there is more to attacking play than number of minutes and goals scored.

And just because I disagree with you doesn't make me an idiot. Learn some manners.


Stats show that Carroll runs further than Suarez does during matches, his running style bellies the amount of work he actually does for the team.


Torres has a number of assists to his name. He has atleast been linking up play well for chelski. They wudnt have beaten sunderland n wolves without him.
Indian Buzzer


They are both rubbish. Next.

Ash


Thats what riles me about KB constant namecalling(behind a keyboard!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:59:29
Just wondering, when did Grobbelaar become chief scout at LFC Eds?
John


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:56:42
macca was sayin about us not being far of 4th the only reason 4 that is chelsea n arsenal have been so poor every man and his dog can see we need a right winger cum on kenny ,...the hawk


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:55:26
Ed002 I really do love you

Square tomato


Unrequited love?


Awkward


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:54:05
Texeira looks a good player similar style to falcao and if he plays for Groningen he wouldn't command a ridiculous fee!although I can't imagine Bruce knowing the insight of our transfer plans


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:54:04
Ac Milan vs inter on ESPN at 7:15 be interesting to see if any of are targets are playing

Square tomato


Watching now no aquilani 0-0


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:53:00
This is not a criticism of Kenny but merely an observation.He has said he is happy with the current squad and has no plans for any signings ,would he feel differently if he was a fan who was paying a very high portion of his income every year to follow the team he has followed for the last 40 years.As for every home game I had a pint before the game(this turned out to be the highlight of the day) and could not believe the team selection when it was announced.
I find for the first time in all my years following my team I am questioning if I get any value for money on my season ticket,Kenny would you still be happy if you had to pay to watch the dross we have seen at Anfield this season.
I want to see football that excites me,where I feel the players are giving their all,thats not happening,lets make the work in progress an entertaining one,its becoming a chore going to watch home games.

Derek


I agree Derek, I'm getting bored with home games and the predictable lack of cutting edge in the final of the field. However, I don't think it's Kenny's fault. The knee jerk panic Carroll buy is going to be his undoing if he isn't given the opportunity by the owners to put it right.

Ozone


Not so sure its not Kennys fault. a. You got to get the players motivated for the smaller teams and b. There is something wrong with our system on the pitch as we never have enough playersin the penalty box. This is our playing system which stems from our management.

S


Swap Carroll for a Rooney or aguero and we have a world beating team.

Ozone


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:30:15
whats everyones thoughts about this:
ins:
luc castiagnos loan
junior hoilett 6-8m (6 months left on contract)
nicolas lodeiro 6-8m(6 months left on contract)

DORSET RED


Hi guys,
Ed's you may be able to answer this,
But does Lodiero definatley have only 6 months left on his contract. If he does, i would be very sure its him we are after, as we look for cheap players, and ones with little contract left.

Thanks
Burnsy {Ed002's Note - Lodeiro is a free agent in the summer.}


Correct me if i'm wrong but isnt Lodeiro an attacking midfielder and NOT a striker so its liklely that its more likley to be David Texeira Bruce was on about?


So we are going to sign teixera a player who has recently just moved with little chance of a work permit.good one.DORSET RED


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:28:42
With regards to this window, I would be happy to see luc casignious (excuse spelling) and estaban granero both on loan. We have been having serious issues with finish and creativity and I believe that they could be the solution.. Clearly no big name is going to move this January in case they harm their chances of being In the euro 2012. So can People stop with the High profile players.

I am fully behind Kenny as he is a good manager and a great man manager. But at stoke he got it wrong. Hopefully move on and correct this at Bolton. 4th will be tough but not Out of our reach. I think that Kenny needs to give some extra crossing sessions to our Boys on the wing. Take a look at larssons cross to bentner against Chelsea, now that is a cross!

One final thing please stop blaming Carroll or Henderson or downing specifically, yes they were below par but the whole team was in the final third.

Sorry to say this but kuyt needs to go, as much as a I love the fella, he just has lost his ability this season and is no longer able to put away chances looked like a lost child against stoke.

All I can say is try to keep the faith in the team, at the moment it's what Liverpool is and so we have to remain positive about it all. Hopefully those additions can come in and be the final pieces to the jigsaw.

Peace out

The Southern Red


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:26:15
David Texeira from Groningen is believed to be the striker Kenny wants along with Luc Castaignos

These two would add more flair, pace and trickery to the team and Castaignos certainly has an eye for goal

Give Downing some confidence and a kick up the arse and carrol some service and top four and a cup is realistic

Thanks

Mac


Good call mac

ACHILLES.


In what aisle in Tesco can you get the packet of confidence?


Drinks aisle and it comes in various forms! Its called alcohol!

Big G
YNWA


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:25:18
Probably the saddest element of this season for me as a Liverpool fan is how easy it is to predict our results against lower teams.

I have made in total £390 betting on LFC to draw vs any team below us. I have lost only a couple of these bets, and when I placed my bet yesterday was very confident it would come in, and it did.

Rewflo


You might wanna buy us a new striker then.

MIKEY


Next year they wont


Stop betting that's bad luck!


Lol, I can't remember the number of times that Liverpool has let me down in betting. I have refused to bet on them for about 6 months now thankfully.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:16:12
Ed, what do you think about Brendon Rodgers?

Sam armchair {Ed002's Note - Like what? Tight buns, smooth skin?}


Man this edd 002 is really ...... {Ed002's Note - Cretin. I will have Tata block the site so their employees do not steal any more time from the company.}


As a Manager, how his team play?

Sam armchair {Ed001's Note - good flowing football with the emphasis on keeping possession.}


Oooohhh..... He's Gorgeous!
Espur


Very impressed, both football-wise and personality. Potential future manager of a big club (cough)


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:12:54
What a horrendous week,

1-0 up in the Carling Cup semi final, and it is an away goal.

We dropped 2 points to Chelsea(5 points behind, still have to come to Anfield)

We dropped 0 points to Tottenham(11 points behind, with a fixture list of Man City(A), Wigan(H), Liverpool(A), Newcastle(H), Arsenal(A), Man Utd(H), Everton(A), Stoke(H) and Chelsea(A) in their next 9 games.)

We gained 1 point to Arsenal(1 point behind, still have to come to Anfield)

Keep the faith.....

Jatt YNWA


Best post i've read in ages YNWA.


Yeah but that would of been are chance to catch up.


And EL PISTOLERO to come back . CANT WAIT


Cheers Jatt, excellent post, i'm always happy to see a few more positives raised.

Red7.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:11:41
What a chance we missed. Spurs had a draw Arsenal lost. we could be fifth today. Instead we are 7th.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:08:48
Arsenal London... a great manager, a team full of pace, skill, experience and youth with creative midfielders, exciting wingers and fabulous strikers and they are sitting just ONE point above us... And they were building this year's team for years without a major trophy for a long time...

Rome wasn't built in a day and winning the league takes a long time without getting world class players for huge money. And if you have the money to get these kind of players, the targets have to be interested in joining Liverpool. I think that's the main problem, because I can't remember a so called world class player singning for Liverpool except Bruno "Zidane" Cheyrou... Ed's, I would like to hear your opinions about this.

Give Kenny some time to build his own team with realistic targets and maybe we will see some rewards...

Spencer


I think the most telling part of what you said is that Arsenal have been rebuilding for years and won nothing. Do you really want that to be liverpool?


Wenger also has a 14 year start on kenny.


Anne also built an absolutely rubbish defence


Who's Anne? {Ed002's Note - My first and third wife is called Anne.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:07:09
The negative Fans should real initial their post.

Should we fin in the top 4 and win a trophy then the rest of us fans would expect you to be man enough to apologise


Like you have put your name on your post.
I would not feel the need to apologise for my opinion but would be delighted to be proved wrong (maybe I should have said amazed).

Derek

ps you put your name at the bottom of your post


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:06:56
A few months ago Anne Williams created an ePetition to give her son Kevin Williams (who died in Hillsborough) his inquest under section 13 of the coroners Act, the family has all the evidence under this section but keep getting refused.

Unfortunately the ePetition expires on Thursday and it still has a long way to go. Please encourage any decent person who can sign it, to sign. Because this is British legal document only residents of the UK and British expats living around the world can sign it. This however doesn't stop those who can't sign it to encourage others who can sign it.

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19149

Hi all i copied this from Empire of the Kop. I don't know this Lady but i do believe she deserves to find out the truth so i encourage everybody to sign this petition.

Jim102929


To all the true fans out there please take time (1 minute) to sign this epetition. i also dont know this lady but I know her son was a fan.
YWNWA
Mark G


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:04:38
HEY what you reckon

I think we shud go for
Nathan Dyer from Swansea- Young, pacey tricky winger and might be cheap plus english, playin well against arsenal.
OR
Junior Hoillet from B'Burn same reasons. wud b cheap 2

Dunno about striker part of me still wants to see Carroll play.
-Bent is good but Expensive and too old jus gunna have 1-2 good seasons left in him
-Defoe is getting old too but if cheap i wudnt mind.

I doubt we can get Soldado etc.

J MARTINEZ seems quite good. Very good Goal record at club & country. 25 yrs old. wud be cheap.
youtube can make any one look good but still you can tell he got a good header and decent wiv both feet.

or Even MOUSSA SOW ty get for 10-15m + j Cole. decent scorer too.

-------------------------Reina--------------------

Johnson-----------Skrtel-------Agger-----------Enrique

-----------------Gerrard--------Lucas---------------

----DYER/HOILLET----Suarez/Carroll------Suarez/Bellamy--

------------------SOW/MARTINEZ/Carroll------------


What you reckon?


MOTD fever?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 18:00:04
Why is everyone making such a fuss about the draw? We are playing in the premier league, there are no easy matches anymore. As long as we don't lose I'm happy. I think we are in a perfe t position in the table. We are in the semi final of the cup and have a good chance in the FA cup. Tottenham are going to have a bad spell soon and have some tricky games ahead. Liverpool play better when we are the underdogs so the season is set out perfectly. I more than everyone would like a striker but with a fully refreshed Suarez back that will be our £50 million signing.


I think it's more to do with the 7 previous draws leading up to yesterday, and in the match two shots on goal.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:59:49
what I dont understand is why KK decided to sing both Adam and Henderson and play henderson on the right when we could have signed one of them and a PROPER,NATURAL,SKILLFUL,PACEY WINGER with FLAIR and GOOD DELIVERY for maybe the same price as hendo, that was some pretty horrendous decision making too be honest...

RDR


Did Kenny really sing to Adam and Hendo?


Because both aqualini and meireles leaving we needed midfeild cover and who would be better than a wannabe alonso and a wannabe gerrard lol....i hope for same money we would have signed de rossi and pirlo or may be even scchweinstiger and kheidera...may be even lampard who has scored more than our strikers in d league! and still is out of favour wid andre villas boas


Or not signed adam and got in a rw


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:59:25
Looks like to many fans are still hungover about rafa's departure and arnt willing to give the King a chance.

Remind me again of our position this time of the season under Rafa's first season?
Remind me where we finished that season?

Rafa was a great manager who should still be at the realm but he isn't and out of the managers available kenny is by far head and shoulders above the rest.
I can see progress within the team and it's football and I firmly believe if given the chance Kenny will do wonders.

Who was the last manager to win the league with us?

Remember Kenny took the job on a temperary basis and it was YOU fans who chanted until he got the job.
6 months in and within reach of a trophy and a top 4 spot and you call for his head.. And yet you laugh when Chelsea do the same anti loyal support.


Why then do the majority of fans see the same failings? What they think are the wrong tactics/formations/player positions etc????

Surely playing against Stoke who were playing Crouch up top on his own, we could have played with less defenders?
Crouch is slower that Big Andy by the way.

Maxi knows where the goal is yet didn't get a sniff.

Kuyt up front on his own against a very defensive minded team was never going to be effective. We needed at least 2 up top.

It was a game crying out for some invention, yet we were so predictable in nearly every attack towards the final third.

We badly missed the invention of Suarez, but it can't be blamed on that as we have struggled to score all season and you can't keep calling that bad luck.

Do the player even have shooting practice? I remember in Gerrards autobiography talking about the forwards when he first joined up with England. He was amazed at how accurate they were in shooting practice. Hitting the same spot time and time again with power as well.


Just like to point out that in Rafa inaugral season he won the most prestigous club competition in football.

I cant be sure but I'm sure that at this point last season were we not higher than this in the league? Or even if we were in the same position thats still not progress, and for the time and money invested between then and now I would expect some progress.

I still expect us to finish top 4 and win League cup but I have to say that every week it gets a little harder to have confidence.

Rewflo


Didn't want dalglish in the first place, most of the signings have been poor, and terrible line ups, tactics, substitutions. He will always have my respect and is an absolute legend but I dont think he can take us further forward.


Cmon Rewflo - youre responsible for a lot of good comments here but thats not one of them. In Rafas inaugral season he won the ECL (with a mainly Houlliers squad), the next year the FA cup but then........nothing.
You're judging Dalglish on one year (and we could still win more trophies this season than Rafa won in his whole time at LFC). Rafa bored us with dull, defensive tactics and had 6 years to make progress (albeit with two f*ckw*ts owning the club).

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:59:19
Evening Eds, in reply to Macca's post re being a work in progress, I am in full agreement. There are a lot of fans on the backs of adam, downing, henderson, probably the same people who were on the back of lucas. I think we lack goals and someone who can unlock a defence with a pass, or a bit of flair. But saying that I have enjoyed watching the football we have played, against everyone we have played including man c we have controlled the game. Given how solid henderson is now he could be a world beater. I for one am excited for the future. One last thing do you have anything else macca??


Sorry i disagree , i had faith in lucas from very early on, i have no faith in adam he s a mid table wonder, henderson i believe will come good and andy carroll is a good striker, just not sure i see him excelling with us


I've really enjoyed watching Liverpool this past year regardless of results. The Stoke game was frustrating but kept me glued to the tv for 90mins.
Personally, Id rather watch us play good footie and draw than scrape a 1-0 and play like Stoke. How do Stoke City supporters stay awake when the tactics are to nullify attack and defend for a draw - it suggests to me that their club and players have no ambition or passion if that's how theyre happy to approach a game.

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:55:56
We gained a point yesterday, arsenal got nothing today. Stop moaning!
Ultra red


What about chelsea?


We dropped 2 points at home against a team that sat and waited for us to attack. I'm certainly no part of the anti-kenny campaign, but regardless who our manager is, it was 2 points dropped.


Youve hit the nail on the head


Sorry - fans have every right to moan with tactics like that at home to Stoke.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:41:25
Yesterday was a bad day at the job for Kenny, it wasn't his first and it won't be his last. However, we need to put things in perspective. Right now, we are without two of our better performers add to that the absence of Agger, and you have to admit that it becomes harder to perform to full potential. So, we drew yet again. But, if you look at the rest of the league we are not worse or better off than most. Chelsea, who were clearly built to challenge for the title are within striking distance, Arsenal have injuries and a defence that will always give the opposition a chance. City, United and Spurs are out of reach, but not so much that we couldn't catch up in a year or two. Some will say that I'm too optimistic, but that is what a fan is supposed to be. We need to add to the squad, there is no denying that. But, we also need to be responsible or realistic if you prefer. Forget Hazard, Higuain, Cavani and other big name players. All we need is a forward who is strong, agile and with decent pace along with a creative winger. Both can be had for less than 20 million combined in my opinion. Also, they need to come in as replacement to outgoing players. Dirk and Fabio are my two candidates, but I fear that Maxi could be also included. Now, here comes the potentially offensive / racially incencitive content of my post. And before you ask, I have not read the Suarez / Evra report because life is too short to waste it on such BS. I've said for years now that Liverpool need an African striker. We need a player who plays a different brand of football. Someone who is unpredictable and who will bring the fans to their feet. African footballers are rarely overpriced in comparison to South-American, European or English (!) forwards and when they settle, they can become massive players. My two prefered acquisitions would be Hoillet (I am Canadian, eh!) and Sow (I am of African descent). Those two would help improve our situation until we reset in the summer. Sorry for the long post, folks.

Canadian Fan


An excellent post


Yep.
Cheap effective players

BUT we still need a FOUNDATION of British players.
Bring in likes of
Wisdom
Robinson
Coady
Sterling
Morgan.

It would be good if we sign a North american player cuz we need to grow in that market also asia likes of honda etc.. We should do pre-season there


It's not the players as much as the tactics. Swansea and Norwich did not spend 80 million in the summer. Would they play like that against Stoke at home? It was unacceptable from LFC.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:31:41
Hi macca! Would tell me please who is the most likely player to sign in LFC?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:29:06
If we do not try to sign Nathn Dyer from swanesea i will be gutted.
he has shown today he can finish and score, he has also shown he is very creative and gifted, he can make something happen out of nothing, as he has done many times in todays game against Arsenal.

why not try and sign him and hoilett.

I also think wes hoolahan is credible.

LTP The Red


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:26:10
Personally i dont think FERNANDO LLORENTE would solve are scoring problem dont get me wrong hes a prolific goal score but the majority of his goals are from headers! We need pacey wingers who can deliver quality balls in to the box, if we have them im sure ANDY CARROLL would be able do a job for us.

ACHILLES.


Totally agree carroll and llorente don't fit our style of play at the moment unless kk signs a winger or two they would not and won't bring much to the team.
skurks


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:26:09
Eds what are the chances of us signing a new set of fans? The current set really are holding the team back and I think it's time to shift the deadwood! And in reply to what macca has said couldn't agree more, so happy with the club at the minute and what it's achieved, people seem to forget we hadn't seen top half of the table this time last year, and we finished 6th, currently 7 with just under half a season and two cups still up for grabs, seriously what's wrong with some of you?!
Lfcmatt


Last year was last year. This year we have 100mil players that we have paid good money for and suppose to be established premier league players so that they could joint the squat immediately and take us to champions


Post of the week


Replying to the post about the £100 mil spent... Chelsea spent £75 mil in jan... In the summer they bought
Portuguese midfielder Raul Meireles from Liverpool for a fee of 13.5m; Spanish midfielder Juan Manuel Mata from Valencia for a fee of 26.7m; Belgian forward Romelu Lukaku from Anderlecht for a fee of 22m; Belgian goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois from Genk for a fee of 9m; Brazilian midfielder Lucas Piazon from Sao Paulo for a fee of 7.5m.
So another 78 Mil to go with the january signings and what they already had... and we are 5 points off them, get a grip you fool, man city spent £400 mil over the years and only this season are they challenging... £100MIL Instant success.. i swear i do not know where some fans get there knowledge of football.
Cheers
G BOX


Its a marathon not a sprint -BILL SHANKLY


If you run slow in a marathon you finish later than everyone else - ME


The tortoise always wins the race - MYSELF


If you run too fast you don't finish at all - I


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:24:08
Alright Ed's and fellow reds

Just watching the Swansea game and have to say Dyer is running the show,I know the ed's weren't his biggest fans but surely he could be a creative inspiration on the wing for us? Doubt he'd cost too much either!

I think we need to put our pride aside and look at players that maybe we wouldn't have years back like a Dyer!

What you think guys?

Ian


Do not agree at all, have seen dyer many times and although he is having a good game now, he is very very wasteful and cuts back/inside a lot... he has pace to burn which a lot of the time misleads people to think fast people are good.
Cheers
G BOX


And what is wrong in cutting inside, if i may ask?

BooDaBooze


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:22:31
We need a player like dyer from Swansea


Another big fish in a little pond, like most of the other players KK has signed. He's not being chased by any big clubs, not on the international radar not a starlet, would cost under 10m and plays for Swansea and has not played at a high level. Dont get me wrong he is a good player but we need higher quality than this if we want to challenge for champions league.

Pete


Big fish in a little pond?? behave... he's just made arsenals defence look like tadpoles then!!
it's not about big fishes in little ponds, which he's not anyway, it's about whether or not a player can get a job done !
we wouldn't get him anyway, cluubs don't just sell there finest players because teams like us come sniffing around !


Arsenal's defense is crap anyway.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:20:38
Well first of all hats off to eds (seriously guys what do you people eat to sustain so much patience?). Am a huge fan of KING KENNY! Can the eds tell me who has the final word over the transfers? Because apart from Suarez, Enrique and Bellamy all of our signings have been utter crap.
Carrol - The guy cant do anything else than heading. you people ask for patience but he must show atleast some quality?
Adam - Last year his kicks were worth 10m but now they are worse than mine and above all he is just a 30m player ( looks like he is breaking Insua's record of mc'd)
Downing - Works hard but....? all in wane his crosses meet no one in the box. seriously 20m?
Henderson - Agree he has potential. But what exactly is his contribution ? Doesn't tackle,doesn't shoot, afraid. Shelvey is way better than him.
You people may be wondering as to why am i whining now as you may say its celebration time. Folks all these flop's craps are covered by Stevei, Reina, Agger,suarez's brilliance. But how long will they carry it on?
Long live the king....YNWA

REDistani. {Ed002's Note - The reality is it is a collaborative process with input from scouts, reports, input from Comolli and no doubt coaches and agreement with Dalglish to go to the board to put their case. If agreed then funds will be made available. So Dalglish effectively has a veto.}


Wow mate, people get touchy when you slag off are frindge players lol But i totally agree with you! Ive posted before about the same players and i get my head ripped off lol And ye shelvey is a better player than henderson.

ACHILLES.


Downing is the only disappointment for me. Adam, Hendo and Carroll have all shown what they are capable of and have had good and bad games. Downing seems to have been bought on statistical evidence but has come up short - unfortunately that has affected Carroll's game.

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:17:20
RYAN BABEL BY NUMBERS:

238 = Minutes per goal in PL for Liverpool - better than Kuyt, Carrol and Gerrard.
7 = Number of CL goals for Liverpool - only five have scored more.
100% = Liverpool won all of their PL games in which Babel scored.
25 = Chances created from open play at Hoffenheim - joint-most at the club.
A big-money flop? We think not.

Stat provided by:
OPTA


Just behave yourself...
Try watching football rather than look at stats, Ryan Babel was a great flop at liverpool and do not give me that rubbish about he was not given a chance, he is the same as walcott for me, got pace but no end product,
Cheers
G BOX


I did'nt think babel was bad tbh would be better to bring off the bench now than what we got at mo.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:04:51
Directed at the opinions which Macca wants on how we played yesterday.

Sure, we're just 5 points off 4th, and I have no doubt that in the end we will achieve that position, but apart from that about the football which we have been playing. Sure, we're playing entertaining football, but thats only when we're dominating the team AND putting it in the back of the net. Yesterday I found it extremely agonizing that we couldn't put it in, more than 75% of the possession and we can't break that defense. Its been the same with a lot of the other matches which we played at home this season, we come so agonizingly close to the win at home, but we've almost always had to end up with a draw. Which is the only part that bothers me.

Sure, we've come a very long way since last season. Sure, I believe we'll get a top 4 spot, but what I'm trying to emphasize is that we're all getting frustrated at the fact that the ball isn't going into the net.

Just my opinion

RenegadeRed


Nobody is saying that Liverpool are the finished article. I certainly don't know any manager that has got every transfer decision right. Yet for all the abuse thrown at Kenny, Comolli & the players, they have assembled a team that has only been dominated in one game all season (spurs). These are the facts! There's teams that have rode their luck, keepers ending up with Motm & also poor finishing by our
players. I just can't understand how people can slate our players as being so rubbish. Surely if they were that bad they wouldn't be able to dominate every team so much. This isn't a bad team & the tactics are usually spot on. We lack one thing & we all know what it is but as much as most people want to lay the blame at Carrolls door, Suarez hasn't scored anywhere near what he should, or Kuyt.

Kenny didn't take over Liverpool as a top 4 team. He's trying to make them a top 4 team. Easier said than done, especially when his choice of players are reduced because of no CL footie. I've been watching Liverpool for near on 40 years. Not since Kenny was boss the last time have we played such good football on a very consistent basis. Not under Souness, Evans,Houllier,Rafa & Hodgson. I'm more than willing to give Kenny, Clarke & Comolli time to find that missing bit to our team. If Kuyt & Carroll have to be sacrifised, then so be it. A goal scorer is what we need. Two if I'm being greedy.

The Irish Rover


 

 

15 Jan 2012 17:00:24
lets face it, if we do not sign a goalscorer in jan ,we can forget 4th place , yesterdays game is becoming a regular result for us ,7 draws at home?, FSG got to spend big this month, i am not going to slag the underperformers we have its obvious who they are, come on kk ,buy a striker who can score! please !


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:51:16
ed do you see anyone signing this week?

red fanatic {Ed002's Note - We cannot say when transfers will complete.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:35:26
Ed kenny dalglish has come out and said that he is happy with the squad and he wont sign in january just for the sake of it what is your take on this is he being serious or are him and comoli doing work behind the scenes to bring anyone in and who is most likely to come in jan personally i think that we wont sign and may end up being 6th or 7th AGAIN!! {Ed002's Note - He put much of the squad together so I am sure he will say he is happy. And his point is well taken not buying players for the sake of it. Unless players are coming in that will improve the squad, I cannot see any point in buying them.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:53:13
Hey guys not a great performance yesterday, even worse when you travel up from newport in wales...
anyhow i keep hearing about how we need a right winger and/or quality striker and the manager getting slated for not going and getting them...
so who do you think we can buy in january for sensible money?

Give me your "signings"
Cheers
G BOX


I think we shud go for
Nathan Dyer from Swansea- Young, pacey tricky winger and might be cheap plus english, playin well against arsenal.
OR
Junior Hoillet from B'Burn same reasons. wud b cheap 2

Dunno about striker part of me still wants to see Carroll play.
-Bent is good but Expensive and too old jus gunna have 1-2 good seasons left in him
-Defoe is getting old too but if cheap i wudnt mind.

I doubt we can get Soldado etc.

J MARTINEZ seems quite good. Very good Goal record at club & country. 25 yrs old. wud be cheap.
youtube can make any one look good but still you can tell he got a good header and decent wiv both feet.

or Even MOUSSA SOW ty get for 10-15m + j Cole. decent scorer too.

-------------------------Reina--------------------

Johnson-----------Skrtel-------Agger-----------Enrique

-----------------Gerrard--------Lucas---------------

----DYER/HOILLET----Suarez/Carroll------Suarez/Bellamy--

------------------SOW/MARTINEZ/Carroll------------


What you reckon?

F5


Yeah not a bad team, i don't think hoillet or dyer is the answer to right wing, dyer is to wasteful, cuts in to much doesnt deliver crosses and hoillet maybe for the future...


Id buy mc geady or hazard and Llorente or m gomez thats all 30m or 12-16million each
dannybhoy


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:51:49
Not a rumour, just a query for the eds.
How many players do we watch at once?
Because there are a lot of (seemingly
pointless) rumours about all clubs not just
us.
Also are you as impressed as I am about
how well the club seems to keep it's
prospective business very quiet? {Ed019's Note - Club scouts are always looking at players}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:48:17
Macca are we still chasing the inter player?

Thanks

Mac


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:42:28
Ahoy - nothin directlyg related to football, but still exceedingly important.

I am cooking a lovely Roast Beef Dinner, but the nagging question is should I have Horse Raddish or Mustard ?

If I choose mustard do I have Dijon or English ?

Also is there an official condiment of Liverpool Football Club - I would imagine it would be a classic ketchup based on colour alone. My favourite is HP Sauce (HP stands for Houses of Parliament - FACT) but the bottle always reminds me of an Aston Villa kit.

I look forward to receiving structured advice on condiments.

BOILED ONIONS


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:39:37
If i was in KK shoes this month this is who i would bring in,
1 Scot Sinclair
2 Jordan Rhodes
3 Zaha
4 Tiote
5 Hoilett
6 Sessegnon

I know thats 6 players, (and theres more I'm sure i just can't think of) and i know no one is going to agree, but its my opinion and i can't be wrong :)
J-LK


Yeah, lets buy more average players so we can stay out of the champions league , we got to spend big again , carrol is c@*p , not LFC standard, spend again ,this time on someone who is a proven goalscorer or our season is done!


Number 1,2,3 & 5 yes the other 2 no.

BigD


Do any fans either have any knowledge about or even consider players from other leagues when making up these lists? Every list seems to be full of mid table premiership teams players, how are they going to get us champions league?! People talk about foreigners not adapting, well its harder in my opinion for average mid table players to adapt to big clubs (Carroll, Henderson, Downing)...

E.H LFC


What a load of tosh dont sign poor players


Ridiculous post. Wouldn't want any of the above at Liverpool. None of them are better than what we already have.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:37:40
As much as I love King Kenny I would love to have Benitez back. With decent funds to spend he would do a good job again. (as long as he got rid of his favourite Kuyt).
I am getting a little fed up of Kenny's negative approach to the media, even if the questions have no accusation to the team. His selections and tactics are also questionable.
For the first time I can no longer be convinced that 'in Kenny we trust'. This transfer window will certainly make or break my feelings toward the great man.
I would be interested to know what you other guys think about it all too. Let's keep it as a discussion rather than just go on a Kenny/Rafa bashing exercise eh?


I was a big admirer of rafa but you have to remember he bought some trash players...
Josemi, Nunez, Mark Gonzalez, Jan Kromkamp,Vornonin, Pennant, Ngog, Dossena, Soto, None of these were for great money but still poor signings, when he had money he bought
Aquaman £20 mil
Robbie Keane £20 Mil
Glen Johnson £18 Mil
he unsettled alonso for no reason for gareth barry, he was also negative with his tatics and predictable with sub timings... while daglish has spent a lot of money i feel they were either young players with great futures or premier league proven at the time, unfortunately the likes of downing, carrol and adam are not playing up to standard at the moment... I'm not arguing with you as a lot of people feel the same, that's just my view on it... while results at home have been quite disappointing, i would not go as far to say in kenny i do not trust.
Cheers
G BOX


If you take into account Nunez was involved in the Owen deal and the good signings he made such as

J. Mascherano.
X. Alonso.
A. Arbeloa.
L. Garcia.
M. Sissoko (before eye injury).
J. Reina.
D. Agger.
M. Skrtle.
F. Torres.
Lucas.

I think you can spare the fella a few duffs. Let's face it every manager buys bad at some point.
if you also take into account Rafa's hands were tied financially for periods (especially the last 15 months) then I think he did a good job signings wise.

If I'm not mistaken he also had a deal for David Villa tied up only for the owners to pull the plug last minute. Ed can you confirm this ?
Jonesred


We had deals tied up for Davis Silva and Villa, Dani alves was also just hours away from joining and the American pulled the plug and refused to give up the cash!

Davis93


AquaMan i feel is a decent player, never been given the chance here. Gets in the milan team and Italy so cant be that bad.
I agree that Rafa with money would do a great job. I feel that the last 3 years we have gone backwards with the squad, no world class players anymore {Ed001's Note - so what is Gerrard then?}


Agreed ed001 - Suarez, Reina and Agger too.

BJH YNWA.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:36:11
macca

I totally agree with your comments i think that we have bought some excellent young players and its about the long term more important than just the short term. We are not a million miles from top four. We also have a massive second leg against city where we dont have to chase the game. Also a big cup game against that team from manc land.

I hope you agree that most top teams are built from the back and there is nothing wrong with our defence. To be fair i think we are ok in the centre midfield its just wide areas and a link up player more importantly than a striker.

Mighty reds


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:35:32
God we need some creative players in our side. We badly could do with a beniyoun or a mata or a silva. Maya and silva two players we could of got but didn't and benny a player that we pissed off so much he walked. If the money is not there for new players why not introduce some youth sterling suso amoo Coady all youth players that I think could hold there own in prem games


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:32:57
With not much in the way of jan transfers, do you think ed that youth could be an option for us. Sterling and sousa(spelling) have what seems to be the ability to run with the ball and dribble rather than the sideways passing we seem to be showing at the mo. Is it worth a try?. {Ed002's Note - They may get a cameo at some point.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:30:56
Dalglish out! Tactics are woeful. 5 at the back verses Stoke, really? If you are a top team, teams change for you, not the other way round. City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, United won't play 5 at the back v Stoke, so why should we!!


We played 3 at the back...


Dalglish out? Even at Chelsea,
as a manager you get two
years to win the premership
or your out on your Apsenal.
Dalglish has only been back a year.
I think after all he's done for the club
he deserves a few years
before we judge him as a manager.

RedAce


A few years of disappointing draws?


It's not Kenny's fault, it's the lack of strikeforce we have and the fact that up front we put all our eggs in carrolls back. How can you say Kenny out when we're playing the best football in the league. We're just not scoring because of a £35 mill flop who doesn't take any pride in wearing the red shirt as he's black and white through and through. He's a monkey on Kenny's back, if we'd kept Torres we would be in the top three mix now.

Ozone


One game away from wembley .


Ozone, you dreamer. If we'd kept Torres, we would have 3 goals less than we have through Carrol. We'd also have a sulky prima donna who drew high wages and disrupted the dressing room. You're welcome to your constantly-negative opinion but to say that we would be top 3 if we had Torrid shows how little you know about football

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:24:08
watching the Swansea-Arsenal game, that is what we need/missing pacey wingers Dyer & Sinclair look good together.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:23:40
eds could use answer this for me when did the league end in january every one on here saying 7th is not good enough i always thought it was may when it was over silly me or stupid every other craying gloryday supporter on here sack kk buy so and so this will sort everything wont it ill stop now before i say something and get band --------liverpool till i die


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:23:20
so let me guess , chelsea are going to buy hazard and who are we going to buy ? hoillett , bent , another no name ? i feel sorry for steven gerrard because the lad deserves to win the title more than anyone in the whole premier league and yet he's nowhere near the title , even tottenham who were nowhere about 3 years ago are closer to winning the title... i dont know whats kenny's agenda because in my eyes all the players we bought in the summer transfer window apart from adam and bellamy have flopped badly , you can just see that liverpool had no chance in scoring , its agonizing to watch!!


Adam is one of them you chose really... not enrique?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:20:54
Right we fans all know we desperately need a WINGER, PLAY-MAKER & STRIKER so who do want to see fill those positions ...

BigD


Realistically:

Ozil, Marin & Fletcher


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:18:58
Yesterday was probably our worst performance of the season, bar the game at Tottenham. We showed Stoke far too much respect with our starting lineup, and the lack of change in the system in the game was disconterting.

All season we look good up until we reach the final 3rd of the pitch - the most important. It shows with the lack of goals we've scored in the league, 24 in 21 is not good enough for Liverpool Football Club.

That being said we are only 5 points off Chelsea in 4th place, and when you consider how poor we have been in front of goal, we aren't as far off as has been suggested in some parts on these pages.

Kenny has said he is happy with the squad, and in the most part compared to last season so am I.

Enrique or Konchesky?
Bellamy or Jovanovic?
Coates or Kygriakos?
Henderson I feel will become a fine player, he is showing signs of settling no he is in the middle, and I feel he is a better option than Aquilani.
Adam or Meireles is a different matter, Meireles is a consistent 7/10 as he has shown at Liverpool and Chelsea, where as Adam is far more inconsistent. When Adam is good he is very good, when he's poor he is very poor.

Let's not forget the likes of El Zhar, Poulsen etc.. We're in better shape.

Downing and Carroll have performed nowhere near the levels that led us to part with £55m to bring them to the club, and when you consider thats half our outlay they need to start performing soon otherwise they will be considered major flops! Downing especially should be entering the prime of his career.

What we need is a few more attackers to help overcome our issues in the final 3rd with the final ball and putting chances away. We need to wingers who can stay wide and put in quality crosses for Carroll for when we want to be more direct, and a attacking midfielder to play with Suarez for the times we want to play our slick passing game.

RedSG


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:15:11
Not really related to Liverpool in particular but in the telegraph there was an interview with Wenger about the Jan transfer window , basically how it inflates prices encourages panic buys and it means players can force there way out of a club , I was wandering if the eds had an opinion wether fifa should change the system either to the old way or only have the summer window? Much appreciated will {Ed002's Note - I know many managers would like to return to the old system.}


I'm too young to remember the "old system" how does it work? {Ed002's Note - No transfer windows so clubs could buy and sell at will.}


They should bring that back then I don't remember it either

GuvTOB


Seems ridiculous to my young mind. Perhaps it is a reflection of the highly regulated society I have been born into where eveything has rules and any sort of free flowing creativity is taken apart by rules


I really think the January window is
a dumb thing. I would rather have
only a summer window. As a team
and as a player you start the season
together and finish it together. I find
the situation where, for example, Torres
could score for Liverpool against Chelsea
and could score for Chelsea against Liverpool in the same season ridiculous. It is just a statement that Loyalty means
nothing and money counts for everything in football. Well, to go really too far, I'd say that I would like limit the number of transfers any club can make and htat a certain number of players have to come from the academy of that club.
RedAce.


If there was no transfer season the clubs like Man C would just buy players whenever they had an injury list. We wouldnt have the situation like last week where we played a weakened side because they would splash out whenever players were absent {Ed001's Note - not true, they would not have space in the squad to do so. What it would mean is that smaller clubs could hold onto their better players for a bit longer during a season. They could then hope they helped them to a better league position before being forced to sell.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:15:10
Would we have a chance of signing Jovetic? Saurez 2.0, and very creative...


He has problems with recurring tendonitis in his right knee, he can rarely play games consecutively, this is why no bigger team has ever bought him.

Rewflo


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:13:00
Whether people like it or not the players we have are Liverpool. The king is the manger. That's the way it is so I'm asking people to just show the players that we believe in them and maybe they will believe in themselves. All the players we have proved theyv got great qualities at there last clubs. They just need to believe they can do it for us and I for one think they will and no one was askin for kk to be sacked last season when pulled us away from a religation scrap. Why now? There has only been 2 maybe 3 games all season that we havnt completely dominated. Have thaith in the team and belief that the king can guide them and it will happen. 5th or even 6th and a trophy at the end of season will be a success in my eyes and if we get the cup then that's European football back at anfield granted not the champs league but Europe non the less.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:09:22

Ed, Are FSG happy to let Champions League Football slip by this year or are they going to back the manager so he can turn our season around? {Ed002's Note - They have backed the manager over the past two windows and the summer rebuilding was to achieve a Champions League place because they need that income for the club and it will help to attract players.}


And what do you feel the consequence will be if we fail to get it?

Ash {Ed002's Note - It would be guess work to say.}


The consequence will be that Ash, RedTurk and co. will come on this site moaning and whinging yet again.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 16:03:19
Macca,

I appreciate your comments but I bet the 'low wages' are higher than a lot of clubs in the premier league. The fact remains we have spent a lot of money and still cannot beat the majority of sides at Anfield. Whilst we are buying some players for the future when that time arrives where will we be.

Man City spent 26mill on David Silva, we spent 27mill on Downing and Adam. These two in particular have added nothing.

The money it appears to most fans has been spent on the wrong players.

I agree we have played well but football is about putting the ball in the net and we can't.

January is an opportunity to bring a couple in. If nothing happens it appears to me the club is settling for Europa League.

Cheers
Redfish


We are really shortage of 2 quality players imo.we had suarez suspended,lucas out of injury,kuyt totally lost,carroll out of form,belllamy+maxi in such physical condition can't continue 2 games,gerrard just coming from injury.more over other players are not performing.

we need at least 2 player ASAP. for me one striker and one attacking mid.i would love one defensive mid too !!

thanks.


Redfish, look at it in context mate.
How much money, on how many players, has Man City splashed out in the last few years. It has been like a scattergun approach. Yes they got it right with Silva but there's probably three failures for every successful signing they've made.
And don't forget, it's taken them 3 or 4 years to get where they are now.
The Real KB


David silva will be on £225,000 a week plus bonuses.Adam and Downing will be on £100,000 max between them.So we've got 2 quality international players who last season we're arguably there teams best players.Good buisseness if you asked me

King Luis


Silva is on 200,000 a week downing is on less than half that. So it's costin city 10.4 million a year to keep him so in 5-6 years it would have cost city somwere in the 100 million Mark for sila. That's a new lfc team every 5-6 years. Just for one player. Do you really think it worth it?


King Luis I think the club are spending a lot more that £100,000 a week to employ Adam and Downing closer to £150,000 a week.

RedSG


Redfish, we need to understand that we have also paid the English Premium in terms of the players brought in. Had Henderson/Downing or Carroll not been English, they would have cost half the amount.

We could have had David Silva 2-3 years ago, but bad transfer activity under the previous regimes have led to the position where we have had to lower the level of our transfer targets whilst still paying big money.

RedSG


Redsg,Charlie Adam was on £6000 a week at blackpool because of their wage structure so why would liverpool times his wages by 10 to get him here?He had a choice of clubs to go to that would make us offer him more money I agree.Kenny himself said no-one would earn bucket loads of money here and they'd have to want to play for Liverpool.Guessing that Downing is on £65,000 and Adam is on £30,000 works out to £95,000 a week for both.

King luis


Blackpool's wage structure will have no relevance on what Liverpool Football Club would decide to pay Charlie Adam.

Stewart Downing was one of the highest paid players at Villa (£60,000+ a week), so would assume his agent managed to get a raise on that.

RedSG


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:40:27
i would keep supporting liverpool fc as long as liverpool fc and champions league are there.this is not the last season in liverpool fcs history and neigther is champs leagues.
dont wooorry from INDIA.
INDIAN SCOUSER


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:35:43
Lets face it 4th was always the intended target but at the end of the day we are in the semi final of a cup, and in with a very good chance of winning a piece of silverware this season, so if we don't get 4th but finish 5th and win the league cup then is that not an improvement on last season.

As Macca stated the Transfer fees was overpriced but the wages are low, so because of there price tags we automatically think they will be an instant hit, Look how long it took Fergie & Wenger to build a winning team, and now there's Redknapp, the players we have signed, Henderson, Carroll are young and will get better with age, but overall it will take time for the team to gel and play the football that Kenny wants so hopefully next season will be better for Liverpool FC.

BigD


Great post, I wish others could see it too


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:35:10
The way people are talking is as if we are 6th and along way off 4th..

We signed players who wanted to come to the club, a lot of other players where approached and did not want to join..

We also need to remember that even though the transfer fees where high the wages are relatively low, so we must look at the whole package..

I think we should judge and the end of the season and not the middle when we still have a chance of forth (outside i know), also we are in the semi final of the cup and still in the FA Cup..

Yesterday was very poor in my opinion, but other than that we have played very well in the majority of the games (entertaining football).

Again this is just my opinion but would like to hear other peoples opinions..

Cheers

Macca {Ed002's Note - I agree with you Macca but the answers given by many will depend upon when it is asked. Ask after a win, a draw or a loss and you will get very different replies.}


I'd rather us play ugly and win, rather than play the so called entertaining football. the table does NOT lie.

lfcjohnynwa


Macca your right but I said after the game it's really hard to be patient sometimes when we just can't score(don't even look like scoring at all) we clearly miss Suarez but we need a creative mid an a striker because I honestly think kuyt has lost it Carroll still needs time and I do trust he will come good we need someone else who can really kill of games! It's a must!

Square tomato


I think kenny's done a tarrific job and now the teams plays as a unit with entertaining attacking pass n move football.

If we converted halfway quarter of the chances we've created then we would be easily in the top 3 by now.

Our only problem is scoring. The midfield are playing great but not scoring enough.

I do believe we need a very good winger and a goal scoring striker before we can challenge.

Make no mistake though, the king in my opinion is the right man for the job.

The players want to play for him, he supports his team and our club through thick n thin and I'm sure he tweak it right.

People are comparing him to Benitez ( they shouldn't) but you have to remember how poor we was when Benitez had just got his feet under the table.
You should give our manager credit and judge him the end of next season.

SJ


Macca, you are just missing the point ! we spend a awful lot of money but bring players who can't give us immediate service ! its a shame . but look at new castle how they spent ! much lesser than us but brought some great players with immediate effect. that's our point ! thanks.


I agree with you Macca.
We have come a long way in just 12 months.
Not far enough for some people, but you can't even buy instant success it takes time, man city splashed the cash and it still took them a few seasons to get where they are now.
We are still not a million miles away from man city as last week proved.
A striker and a right winger is all we really need to compete at the top next year.
The likes of Carroll, downing and Henderson will have got the difficult first season out of the way and will no doubt perform better as a result.
Throw in the return of Lucas and a fully fit gerrard and you never know how far we will go.
the draw with Stoke was disappointing but very predictable, they were always going to park the bus, that's when Liverpool
struggle.
A couple of signings that can unlock stubborn defences is all we need because everything else is there.

MIKEY


I find it shocking that we can buy two new strikers (Carroll and Suarez) who are suposed to offer everything that an attack should, creativity, power, guile, finesse. Yet they convert less than 7% of their shots into goals.

Take a look around at other players, I'm not joking now, Phil jones converts 6% of his shots into goals.

Maybe its just me but I think our attackers should convert vastly more chances than a DM/CB.

Rewflo


Macca
kennys tactics are sometimes baffleing.3 at the back v stoke,leaving our best player on the bench(bellars)then when u bring carrol on u take the person that u paid 20 mill to supply the crosses to him off,i love kenny but why is he being so negative,why isnt he starting with the lot of them bellas right carrol up top downing on left stevit just behind,come on mun were at home lets play our best players,not leave 2 on the bench ,were all wanting to sign a new striker but if we do sign one ill bet hell be on the bench more than hell play
lee


Why should an attacker have a better conversion percentage than a defender? Phil Jones might have 10 shots in 5 games and score one. Suarez might have 100 shots in 5 games and convert 10. Both have a 10% conversion ratio. Dont see your point.


You are right Macca, I must admit I am thoroughly enjoying our football at times this season apart from the results, but it seems kenny cares more about winning a trophy than getting 4th place IMO. I think we would struggle with Europe and the league next season anyway so the extra money 4th brings I don't think would be enough as I think we would need quite a few more players. So I wish we would bring a few of our attacking kids in for the league run in and see how they settle. What do you think?

Bentam ( happy red)


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:30:11
7th in the league, eh? I wonder if this is what Henry had in mind when he let Kenny spend all that money last year..

Matthew...


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:25:45
We are 7th now in the league table!

Is this good enough for a club that spent over £100 million on players? (most are useless by the way).

lfcjohnynwa


I wouldint class andy carroll an average player his that bad,cant score ur create goals,cant control the ball,falls on the ground all the time,very clumsey,cant pass ur create anything,not an intelligent player either,just because he cost 35m dont mean his going to turn into a world class player,he just hasint got it in him,we were conned buy newcastle,king kenny panicked big time


Look at the teams currently in top 4 how much have they spent over the past 3 years. Very naive to think they have not spent to get were they are. Harry is a example of how a team can be successful over time and money spent and keep the faith. Small steps make giant leaps. Don't dout the king mate give it time and most of all give your team your support it's needed

Redman j4t96


Excuses excuses and more excuses


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:25:45
I am a die hard liverpool fan and have been all my life and i dont think i would ever disagree with kenny dalglish, but watching the stoke game yesterday i was really dissapointed with his team selection not the 5 at the back but the way in which he set about attcking stoke... why he left bellamy and carroll on the bench wut dirk kuyt practically up fornt on his own at home was beyond me... kuyt is simply not good enough anymore for liverpool he needs to move on... people say he is a wrokhorse fair enough thats a good attribute but it does not make up for his lack of goals... we need a top striker who can get us goals and for dalglish to come out and say yes there is money available but im happy with my squad is mind boggling... how in gods name can u be happy with a squad wer u have not one proven goalsorer who will get u 20+ goals a season, top 4? we will be lucky if we even come close the way we are goin 7 draws at home this season is a joke for a club who wants to challenege for the top 4 and im sorry but a place in the carling cup final wont cut it... everybody at the club needs to step up there game and realise tehy are playing for liverpool football club not blackpool, newcastle, villa or sunderland so the players we signed need to get there heads on staright!

Rk11


If he played our first eleven and got beat, would you then say the same?
The fact is we didnt get beat and should of won


But we didn't win did we? We should have won the other 7 aswel


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:19:26
If you analize the form since this time last year we have gone backwards.


Well then kenny must go


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:13:29
7TH PLACE not good enough,i love u kenny but time to go,we wont get champions league im sick,bad singings and full of excuses,were so slow its sad and no striker at the club,i love this club and am really down about whats happening,andy carroll must be worst buy ever and he is getting worse all the time,im gutted...


Impatient immature supporter "working prosess" we're was we when shanks took over? Were did we finish when rafa took over? You cannot have it all straight away he's building for the long term as are fsg. You f***ing make me sick (harsh I know but needed) I hope u look back in a years time or so and think I should never post after a night out and still half sloshed

Redman j4t96


Your living in denial and bad language not nice.as shanks always said the league table dont lie,were 7th annd thats were we deserve to be were to slow u mean to say give it time so yhe likes of carroll kuyt and adam etc the slow players are going to turn into fast players in time,i dont think so,were to slow as a team,we need pace and more pace,all good teams have pace it hurts the oppisition,so the your talking give it time is rubbbish and an excuse,open your eyes these players just not good enough for lfc....irish kopitie


I think the the term you are looking for Redman is "work in progress".
Jesus it's worrying how dim some people are!


I know the term but these phones change your words to a predictive text so chill smart ass. If your guna post make it constructive instead of your little small minded digs

Redman j4t96


Irish kopite sorry I don't live in your world were the sky is green and it rains kittens but people swear so build a bridge and get over it. Secondly I ment give it time as in the building project kk is assembling. Players with pace will come in as and when they come available with a price tag that we think we should pay for such player. You totally missed what I was saying. And finally no I don't live in Egypt in a river don't know were u got that from.

Redman j4t96


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:06:35
Bearing in mind we play city and it'd in the cups, wolves away and spurs at home between 25th jan and 6th feb, is it possible that yesterday's selection had an eye on forthcoming fixtures with a view to giving certain players some playing time whilst at the same time not exposing us at the back yesterday?

Ozone


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:06:15
hey guys have a look at a quality player for a good price, ben arfa for newcastle and compare him to kenny's choice jordan henderson or charlie adam.RedTurk


I still struggle to see peoples issue with henderson he to me seems young willing to play anywhere on the pitch and do a good job for the team. Charlie adam seems to have lost all ability from set pieces and just seems dire this season.


What make you even more amusing, is that you only decided to post after a bad result. Where were you when we beat City at the Etihad Stadium? I have a good feeling I won't see your posts for another week if we get a good result against Bolton, if ever there was an incentive to beat Bolton that has to be it!

Jatt YNWA


I agree, Henderson is a decent player when played in central midfield. You just need to look at the pass he fed through to Gerrard to score against Newcastle to get a feel for what he's capable of. Charlie Adam hasn't quite been up to the standard I was expecting, most of his crosses/free kicks/corners are just hit straight at defenders but then again, the long diagonal ball he hit over to Enrique in yesterdays game was tremendous, he's clearly got it in him, he just needs to do it more often.

NB Red


Hmm mr jatt where are we in the table, can you honestly tell me buying british was right? have these players shown anything? how much was ben arfa compared to henderson? im sure commolli had bargains up his sleeve, but its a shame kenny for english is best? its a shame cos its not the 80's no more.RedTurk


'RedTurk', the fact that you are telling me to compare a guy in Ben Arfa who is predominantly used as a striker, to an complete midfielder, really emphasises my point about how ineffective your assessments of anything to with Liverpool are.

Jatt YNWA


In his defence he did post after the win at City and said that he felt we weren't good enough.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:03:24
Hi eds

Dyu feel like Macca that after the lack of creativity against Stoke and porr attacking threat the club might push for a more high profile striker?

I really think we need a winger maybe Hoilett or Sinclair and a striker like Sow or maybe a deal for Martinez

Thanks

Mac {Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:00:46
If LFC had Jordan Rhodes in our team this season, the goals that he would have scored would probably mean an extra 10pts 4us right now. That would put us @ the top of the league & wud mean us challenging for the Premiership, fact !! come on Kenny, mk this lad a kop ledgend.


That is so true, and the thing is if we actually got off are apse and placed a bid he would actually come and the thing is he would be very cheap compared to what we've been linked with, £4m - £8m it makes complete sense to me, problem is tho if we don't get him i bet fergie does and make him into a star.

BigD


 

 

15 Jan 2012 15:05:24
I totally disagree with one comment saying that meireles is better than adam. I would much rather have hendo and adam than meireles. Meireles was so wasteful and too lightweight plus hendo and adam are younger and are going to be top class signings. Adam for me was bargain of the summer and was brilliant with lucas and formed a good partnership. He is just learning to change his game.

Hendo is very young but has great energy and is always available for the ball i think there games will get better when gerrard gets fitter. But come on guys get off there back.

Mighty reds


Totally disagree about Adam, worst signing of the summer, but hopefully will prove me wrong and turn in to an Anfield legend.


I think your absolutely wrong mate, meireles is the better player and the fitter player.RedTurk


Hendo yes. Adam oh no he is pathetic all season apart from a few decent passes.


RedTurk, why was Miereles always subbed off in a game then? He didn't look fit to me....


Raul scored goals made assits and was agile and quick enough to contribute to a pass and move system and thread balls accuratley into decent chance creation as opposed to adams hollywood balls and off balance dribbling not to mention sh1t free kicks and hitting the first man corners.


Hmm why is henderson always subbed off and adam these days? why dont you try reading comments made by the fitness team who said meireles is 1 of the fittest players we have.RedTurk


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:56:30
have we really improved? apart from suarez and enrique, where is the improvement? 7th in the table is an improvement? i would suggest if kenny sais he does hav money to spend if needed, it is a very little amount thats why it will be hard for him to just buy anyone, reason it is a little amount is because he has wasted £80 million+ on some poor british players, im sure commolli gave dalglish other options but he chose the english guys, so in the end it will not be commolli's fault he only took dalglish's final word, anywhere outside of the top 4 for liverpool and you can pretty much guarantee kenny will be gone. The owners took a chance on kenny, only because he done well in motivating the team last season, but after watching his summer signings being pretty average, and for the same value or less could of bought better can you really blame the owners for not giving him money? same thing happen with hodgson, he was waiting for summer to buy some more crap and the owners kept quiet until enough was enough, i respect kenny as a great player and manager in his time but i wont follow blindly.RedTurk


Very true im sick the table dont lie kenny


Well this time last year you must of been really sick, what position were we in again?


The way people are talking is as if we are 6th and along way off 4th..

We signed players who wanted to come to the club, a lot of other players where approached and did not want to join..

We also need to remember that even though the transfer fees where high the wages are relatively low, so we must look at the whole package..

I think we should judge and the end of the season and not the middle when we still have a chance of forth (outside i know), also we are in the semi final of the cup and still in the FA Cup..

Yesterday was very poor in my opinion, but other than that we have played very well in the majority of the games (entertaining football).

Again this is just my opinion but would like to hear other peoples opinions..

Cheers

Macca {Ed002's Note - I completely agree with you Macca. What would be much more interesting would be the responses to your question after a win, a loss and a draw to see how they differ. A two-nil win yesterday with both goals from Andy Carroll and we would not have suffered the misery of the past 24 hours.}


Seriously mate you are the most annoying moaning t**t I have heard, if you have such a problem with the signings, the manager and the direction the club is going do everyone a favour and yourself a favour and stop 'supporting' our club and it just might help with removing that bitter taste in the back of your mouth you wake up with every morning. If you have such a problem with a transfer policy try 'supporting' a team with a policy that suits your needs, maybe Man City? Chelsea?

Jatt YNWA


Come on, we love the club but it is alright to complain when something goes wrong. you get frustrated because you care about the club. facts are facts. out of the players bought by kenny, suarez and enrique are excellent buys, Adam and Henderson are ok, Caroll and Downing are bad so far. that is the fact.
and macca we had chances to buy better players but we chose not to. We decided not go for Honda, Turan, Remy, even mata was our second choice to downing. and I am sure there are many quality players that would want to come to liverpool. for the last few years we haven't been blessed with new players. when was the last time Liverpool had a chance to spend more than 100 mil on new players ? we know that doesnt happen very often and when it feels like we have taken full advantage of it, we should be disappointed.

miccmak
the other fact is if we dont get into champions league as soon as possible, we will be far behind a top 4 team. before 3 seasons we used to say we have an outside chance to win the league, now we are saying for being in top 4. before 2 seasons we never cared about carling cup, we used to come out with our reserve team unless we meet the bigger clubs. now we play our best 11 against small teams. I like to win those cups. but I ll trade 5 of those for champions league football.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:52:01
Does no one remember last season. We lost 14-15 games and still finished 6th and city and Chelsea lost 9 games and finnished 2nd and 3rd on 71 points. If we draw every home game and win the away games like we have been doin that's still 69 points at the end of the season and I can't c us drawing that many more at home feb is a hard month with the mancs. Spurs and everton. Then arsenal but then there's 12 games until Chelsea second to last game of season so I believe in march we are gonna make a real charge and keep it goin so arsenal and Chelsea had better look out coz were coming for them.


Eric the red


Thats the spirit Eric, well put mate


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:50:16
Ed or Macca, what's the latest on the lad from Inter Milan? Thanks------
--------------- You never answered Ed? Lol {Ed019's Note - Whoops, there is no new news, sorry}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:46:07
Be Honest everyone, nobody has the foggiest idea who Liverpool will sign, will release or will or won't loan.
KK made it very clear he won't be telling anyone anything unless there's business to tell.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:36:27
The pressure on Carroll from the media to perform is relentless. I truly believe the media would love him to return to Newcastle as it would be great back page story lines as currently nothing is happening in the transfer market.

Kenny is not helping him either. Everyone is aware that Stoke play big 6 footers at the big and twice this season we have left Carroll on the bench. When he does come on its too replace Downing who is meant to get the crosses in. To play Kuyt up front on hiw own (no goals all season) was tactically naive.

I appreciate injuries and recent suspension for suarez has not helped but KD has not given time for the Suarez/Carroll partnerhsip to work.

Rafa and Roy Hodgson were deservedly critised for some terrible signings. At present Kenny is as the same point. Over 100 million spent on transfers and as it stands we are in 7th Place with Newcastle winning. Its all very well Kenny saying we need to be more clinical or creative. He strangled the life out of the time with his formation. For 100 million I would expect a striker who can put the ball in the net, an attacking midfielder linking midfield to attack and someone in midfield who can act as a guard to the defence.

History continues to repeat itself at our club. Is Meirless any worse than Adam (in fact he's better). Adam was not needed following the Henderson signing.

It appear with all the draws at Anfiele no lessons are being learnt. Seeing our fans screaming for penalties was embarrasing.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:32:10
I doubt there will be any moves made by us this window as much as we want and need some new attacking players, game yesterday was just awful and must surely prove we need too buy!


If there isn't any then you can pretty much guarantee the owners are analysing each performance, and if the time comes at the end of the season when we finish outside top 4, kenny will no doubt be gone.RedTurk


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:31:02
No champs league, may mean that dalglish is moved upstairs. Remember what Henry said at the start of the season, he would be disappointed if we did not finish 4th.

If we finish 6th or 7th, which is highly possible if we don't win games, he will be a goner. Expect someone like klopp or other young gun to get the job. It would not surprise me if rafa is asked to come back, or they go and get morinho
before anyone else gets him.

They are not afraid to spend money when the time is right.

Just making a point, not trying to cause uproar with this.
Red first & last


Would not surprise me m8 CL is looking doubtful so we will end up in the Europe League, no disrespect to Kenny but if Rafa had nearly £100m to spend on players we would not have brought the players that are currently there now he would have most likely gone Spanish and brought in the likes of Mata, Llorente, Alba etc..


I agree with this, quite clearly everyone can see we need a few players of quality, im sure even commolli more then us, but you will find that the owners are questioning wether to give kenny more money to waste or keep it for another manager.also i cant judge comolli on these buys becos final decision was kenny's but he had to respect kenny's wishes of buying over priced british players, the end result will be kenny being moved on if we fail.RedTurk


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:29:55
Ed or Macca, what's the latest on the lad from Inter Milan? Thanks!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:25:30
Not a rumour. But i see some 'fans' saying they have lost faith in kenny cuz he said he might not sign players this window. Remember last Jan when he said babel won't leave but couple of days he was gone. Just get used to the fact things are being done through closed doors like it should be. YNWA. Pops


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:25:27
Many Liverpool 'fans' here have very short memories, this time last year we were in a desperate position, this year we are doing much better(all round performance and league position) I'm frustrated about drawing silly home games and lack of goals too but we are still very much in the running for 4th. As Kenny says, it's a work in progress, and as long as we are improving every year then Kenny is doing all the right things, and we have DEFINITELY improved! As Shankly said 'If you can't support us when we're losing, then don't bother supporting us when we're winning' so to turn on the club for drawing games is despicable, if you seriously think Kenny isn't doing what he can to win then you're a fool. In terms of transfers, Kenny likes the club to to do dealings as privately as possible so just because he says we're not after players doesn't mean we're not actually after players, have a bit of faith in the guy and put your efforts into supporting the team!

NB Red {Ed019's Note - I agree}


Fantastic post NB Red, everybody should read it, and if you dont agree, then you carnt say you support the club.

Burnsy


Weren't we in exactly the same league position this time last year?


Another non lfc fan presses disagree


How can you say, if soneone doesn't agree with yours or another posters comments they don't support the club. Nonsense everybody has their own opinions.
JamieMK


Supporters support - that is the meaning of the word. Slaggers by definition are not supporters. I f you can't support Liverpool because you don't like Liverpool players, then F off and support another club. You either support or you don't - it is black and white.

DJP


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:25:12
I have said it before and will say it again our build up play is just to slow and our whole mid-field and our strikers are short of pace,couple this with teams coming to Anfield and playing 10 players behind the ball and we will struggle to score every week,.....OH I dream of a Barnes or Beardsley type player with that little bit of guile and vision,also would love a striker with real pace.


Without a shadow of a doubt. Lavezzi, Napoli, perfect profile.

Ozone


Yeah lovely lookin fella


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:11:51
Just a quick question for the Ed's or anyone else, if you don't mind...

Kenny said its more likely to be a 'quiet month' in regards to our transfer activity and Macca said something similar. Do you think that's just Kenny keeping his cards close to his chest like usual, or do you think he's genuinely confident with the players we have, to make top 4..can't say I am though!
I spoke to about 10 lads in the pub after the game and every single one of them all said we need a right winger and a striker, we all know it, surely Kenny does too?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:10:21
how likely do you think it is that if we dont get cl football that gerrard, suarez, agger and reina could leave?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:13:19
andy carroll is the worst striker in liverpool i don't know why kenny dalglish loves featuring him, he should be loaned out and replace by two sharp and speedy attackers. Kenny should do something this january pls or else he should forget about championleague next season. We the liverpool fans in nigeria are disappointed with kenny himself. Stop racism and get us a good player. -


Now this is defo a manc post. Disgusting the way that was put across you tw't


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:05:04
HELLO eds and fans, I really feel it is very immature that after any poor result people come out and start to say KK out. You forget he is the one that brought us out of the mess we were in last season, and he is rectifying the mess benitez left, with over 10 rubbish players on obscene wages that were not good enough. Football is a team game, footballers are human they need time to get used to each other playing, new surroundings and a new way of doing things. I hope people are not expecting every game is going to be a win.
Just look at spurs they were crap for years but they bought years ago Bale, Modric, etc, and with many years gone by of being a lees than average team they are now a top four team.
Yes we all want pool to be doing well, but we have to be mature, we can't go and buy the top class players because we have no champs lge, we cannot at the minute afford those massive wages either.
Fsg have done very well have been very respectful owners where due they have given the money, and not lied to any of us.
KK and all the staff wake up everyday with pool in their minds and what is best for lfc, respect these people please don't be rude by saying KK out, because he is the manager and a very good one. Trust me there must be loads of things that go on behind closed doors that we would not know about, that if we knew we would be more understanding of the ongoings.
Do criticise and put your opinions forward but please make it constructive and factual, after all that is what fans do, But don't forget FANS ALSO SUPPORT.
Yes I think Kuyt and I am sure so does KK but it is not that easy to get rid of players a lot of things have to come together for a player to leave ,like getting someone instead of the player leaving.
hibsylfc


Yes i agree that it took totenham years to build this team but hey didnot overpay them
bale cost them 8 mil wih modric around 15 mil and in odays market both of them could be of 40 mil each
now can u look at our buys in he summer and surely tell me that we can atleast sell them for the price they were bought in for except for enrique


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:04:26
is there any chance of us getting rid of dalglish? i don't think the club can take much more. his transfers are horrible and he has no tactical ability at all. and to say he doesnt have plans to buy any players this month suggests he is happy with the team and the performances, which is naive at best. we will not get 4th place this season and do you think john henry will let him fail or get him out now while we still have a chance?


Whats the weather like in manchester then ?


Some people just want a reaction board or something?


Yea loads of chance of getting rid of dalglish, Tell ya what you tell us the date and exact time and we'll make it happen oh and dont forget to put your name and address lad so everyone will know it was all down to you and your masterplan.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:02:16
Liverpool apparently interested in Jose Rondon & Dries Mertens. Do you know anything about this Eds/Macca?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:02:15
Why not buy Ryan Taylor, and push Glen Johnson forward? Two players who can deliver a ball, and not to mention English...no crucifying needed, only a thought.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:18:19
Just had a quick look through the banter archives for 1st February last year. It's full of poster saying that Andy Carroll is a bad buy - NOT! There is in fact ONE (nameless) who said that Carroll would be a waste of money. The majority of fans were looking forward to the Suarez/Carroll strike-force. I am an optimist and think that it will still happen but it will only happen if the whole team gets together as a unit. Kenny has to play his part by starting with a regular line-up. I know that we have to wait until Suarez is back and when it happens Steven Gerrard should the only 30+ player to be available for selection. We don't need a goalkeeper on the bench so I would have at least three of the youngsters there so that they can gain experience when things are going very good or very bad.
Dutchmal


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:17:05
Any new transfer news today Ed's? I'm desperate for movement, after yesterday proved our attacking frailties.

Thanks
Burnsy {Ed019's Note - No, sorry}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:14:32
For me yes the line up was a bit strange , 5 at the back and kuyt up top on his own at home? But i dont think its the players picked for the game thats the problem its the mentality of them because this isnt something thats been happening for a few months, this problem of not being able to beat the teams we all know we should has gone on for a long time! Just look at the season a few years back when we should have won the title, this is what ultimately cost us-home draws! Its got to the point where 10 minutes in were looking at each other and saying "this is a 0-0". Maybe the teams parking the bus has a big bearing on it but for me the urgency just isnt there from the off! I love my team but its so frustrating to know in a one off game we could give any team a beating but then keep slipping up against the smaller clubs.
Anyway chins up reds lets hope we win the league cup and our fortune changes in the league because lets face it if we go on a good run well get 4th chelsea and arsenal and that great! YNWA

@kop_bailey


Its more like you lot park the bus in your own stadium

Pardoe


Didn't united park the bus at anfield recently moron


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:13:28
Hi ed & everyone. How did Coates play yesterday?

Corkpoolred


Hi mate,
He played well, seeing as he has hardly played this year. No mistakes, made a couple of attacking runs too. Good at corners, so ye, not bad.

Burnsy


Thanks Burnsy, appreciate it.


Defensively he was fine but his distribution was terrible similar to carra really loads of aimless longballs

@kop_bailey


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:10:53
Is it just me or has anyone else notice the TOTAL SILENCE in the newspapers about Wengers sentational claim that the TV companies are fixing matches to suit other clubs ??

This is a truly phenominal claim that Im sure would make make headlines in the papers for weeks, and would involve a full FA and police enquiry, yet what do we hear??

NOWT, ZILCH, NICHT, ZERO.......silence and tumbleweed

If Dalglish had said this he would have recieved the full treatment from the press and the FA, and would probably have been fined in the process!

Proves to me that once again the papers who are looking after the interests of their 'preffered clubs' want this one to just go away.....really quietly....ssssshhhh dont mention it again

FA neck in the sand cos it suits all the big boys clubs and lets not cause and undue bad publicity.

Wenger was correct in what he said, yet the story has now just disappered from the papers the next day ?


Ask yourselves why ?

tel 1949


Think we all know the answer to that tel


 

 

15 Jan 2012 14:01:25
Hi All, Another bad result for us and i think most of people agree here creative players are what we are missing and its about time we go away from our young and english policy and go and get few more players like suarez. i would like Attacking midfielder and Right winger and another striker and if we have to loan players thats not bad idea, Defoe,Barrios or If we have to buy Luke De Jong ,Yarlenko.IF we are not going to do that then bring in youngsters like Suso, Strerling and Morgan and coady.At least that will show us how much progress they have made and if they do not perform then we can work on any shorfallings..also i need spearing, Maxi and Kuyt are good players but i think time for them to move on.Lets carry on supporting team with our feedbacks on performence and ways to improve rather then moaing about players and things..I know Liverpool to be back at top will be hard work but club is doing right things after long time and they need our suuport..YNWA


Creativity, pace and an instinctive goal poacher is what's missing. How often have we counter attacked and there's been no-one supporting Downing or Bellamy? At least three players are needed in this transfer window but they have to be proven and not potentials. We have potential in abundance what we need are players who can make a difference in the short term.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:50:27
I agree 100% in relation to the Ed's take on the club re Managment, the players and Owners. So a word on Owners and Players.
A) the owners will spend big if they feel that a viable player becomes available. They have proved that they will put their money where their mouth is.
B) let's look long term here with the owners. They are driving the club correctly on and off the pitch. What we have to remember this is also a business and every business needs to make a profit. So by getting it right off the pitch will lead to being able to spend more on it..
C) I feel defensively we are sound. What we lack is a goal finisher in the mould of Fowler a balanced midfield which may require a world class midfielder to complement Stevie G and an attacking wide midfielder).
D) it is not a great time to buy during the Jan window as you pay over inflated prices. However there are decent players available who would improve the squad now. We may have to off load to bring in also.
E) as much as I have thought Kuyt is and has been a fantastic player for the club, now I feel he should move on for the clubs and his own future. (this will happen).
F) Andy Carroll is a shadow of his former self but as fans we must give him at least another season. Remember how long it toke for Crouch to score!
Be positive we will get a champions league spot. Our fortunes in front of goal will change and I do think we will bbring in a quality striker.

Believe and we will Achieve.


Great post fella


Good post mate its a pity most on here disagree so called supporters..'we go to the game merchants'..JG..


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:46:28
half way through silly season (transfer window) we have wasted millions on players who don,t or even cannot perform s downing for instance i questioned his suitability before we bought him was bombarded with rubbish like opta stats ect i was at manc city this week he was appalling . a Carroll was taken from a club he loved carrying an injury he has not performed .
we are paying over the odds for players that are not good enough liverpool need to look at the transfer situation and do something about it very soon we do need a finisher double quick Suarez does not score nearly enough great to watch his heart is in it .
Henderson has improved still a player over payed for.
it is time now to feed the likes of sterling and Morgan Silva we did it with fowler owen and the majestic Gerrard .
maybe if we could get dejong and a perotti type player we might just get a champions league spot i fear we will further away than last year on that one if we had not lost the spurs game and managed a draw against villa last year we would have done it its not gunna be that easy this year


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:42:55
Hi all,
Just a thought but would anybody welcome Gary Hooper. I've heard there have been bids rejected for him, and i found it funny that the figure to secure his services is £35m. Hopefully its just a coincidence.......

Burnsy


Where in the world did you hear that firgure? because i heard 7m


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:40:02
I've now worked out where the opinions of all the impatient "fans" are coming from. It's a simple financial matter.

They've said for a few years that they're Liverpool fans, but if we don't hurry up and win the title they'll have to jump on the city bandwagon, then the cost of new shirts and things starts to add up, then if city don't win a title within those 2 years they'll have jump back on the chelsea bandwagon and lampard and drogba will be gone so their shirts will have the names of retired players... and the cycle continues.
Oh why can't we just win the title this year to keep these young chaps happy and make sure they don't have to buy a city strip next season...? you just can't buy loyalty like that huh?

Red7.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:56:21
.It was three central defenders and two wing backs. That is an attacking formation not a defensive one and attack we di for most of the match RED LENIN

LOL

but you still had 5 defenders on the pitch! against stoke at home!


Your level of tactical formations and understanding is obviously low. RED LENIN


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:52:59
Cabaye on the floor moaning like a kid, Funny that he didnt say a word or get a card with his disgusting tackle on spearing


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:27:53
i dont see why kenny doesnt give young adam morgan a go ? we gave a chance too gerrard , fowler , owen and carragher ( too name a few ) we wont know if he is good enough if he doesnt get a chance ....


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:48:13
The owners this summer (and in effect last Jan) came in and backed the manager..Kenny has said, there are funds there (so clearly the owners will back him) but he has said he us happy with his team (which both confusing and perplexing)

However if u all remember, John Henry did say if we don't finish 4th it will be "disappointing". If you look at John Henry, as an owner in the U.S. he will change manager if they don't meet the objectives (rightly so)

So if Kenny doesnt want to spend and strengthen and push for the 4th spot, he will no one else to blame, if John Henry thinks of the best interests of the club and brings in a more suitable manager for us to compete for the top 4..


Why Henry won't sack Dalglish this summer

1. One year is no time in football considering where Liverpool were and where they are at now.

2. The fans would be in uproar - the genuine ones.

3. It would cost at least 10M to sack Dalglish and then what about the rest of his management/coaching team - a new manager may want to get rid of them also. More expense!

4. Henry understands little of football however no doubt his advisors have explained to him the mess left behind from 5 years plus of the RAFAlution.

5. What top manager would want Liverpool in its current state? Would there be a queue?

6. What funds would be available for the war chest for the new manager's purchases?

7. What effect would Kenny's sacking have on the players?

8. Would Kenny sacking in retrospect prove even more damming to the club and would there be calls on here for the "New" manager to go after every bad result?

9. There in a new reality in the EPL with the money from abramovich and the sheik, this means two of the top four places are virtually gone each season (note I said virtually) that leaves Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool and any other club that can mount a challenge for top with no guaranteed place. History counts for nothing it is a results and money oriented game.

10. Players have greater option of where to play then ever before this makes compettiion for players more intense than ever, and Liverpool cannot just get who they want even if they had more money than they currrently have?

It would appear Henry's strategy is a long term one and Kenny is laying the foundation, success will not be instant and those that seek instant success better switch sides and go support Citeh.

Of course every real fan is pissed off with what's happening, Downing and Carroll are really the only 2 of Kenny's purchases that have not lived up to their billing.

Everyone or practically everyone if they are honest would have thought these two to play much better then they currrently are and kenny was being conservative if anything with these choices. The fact that both are playing badly cannot be soley attributed to Kenny
sometimes things that should work just don't for whatever reason.

However what is to be done can Kenny Sell these two players and cut his losses? It goes back to money again? If Mancini bought them then the sheik would not baulk at selling them however what about Henry?

We have a problem and until its sorted what can change?

Rash decisions are seldom correct and maybe Kenny is looking at things and taking his time to find the corrections needed, will Henry will give him this time, time will tell?

dark shadow


So now people think that Kenny doesn't even WANT 4th place. Give it a rest alright.


I think also that the owners will take into account that Gerrard had a long injury setback,Lucas injury and the Suarez suspension. None of this is Kenny's fault.
To have all this going on during a rebuilding of a team I'm surprised we are not at mid table right now


ChinUp


Whilst the funds maybe ther, the owners will not tolerate another wasted lump sum as is being seen with Carroll. Therefore if the right player isn't available, Kenny's not going to take any chances with the transfer kitty.

Ozone


He actually said it would be a 'catastrophe!'

Ash


Kenny wants first place not 4th place, he just might not get it in year one, some people comprehension is vey bad.


Quote from Kenny
"ITS A WORK IN PROGRESS"

What part do some not understand about that?

If you want instant success support Citeh.


'catastrophe!'

Have you ever worked for an american company?

They always set higher standards than most employees will reach and they are full of BS jargon regarding the employees performace.

Henry was setting the bar for Dalglish as 4th place. However Henry does not know football that well and this year has been a difficult one for dalglish and Liverpool so not coming 4th may not please Henry but it is far from a 'catastrophe!'

The EPL has changed there are no easy games 8 teamms would like 4th only four can make it.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:41:31
Kenny was the man & still is the man to carry us forward but that does not mean we can't question or doubt what he is doing /support & agree with what ever he does.

First of all lets believe there 'll be people including fans who 'll complain, whinge /mourn when results not go our way. Especially with Liverpool being an ambitious massive club with a huge fan base home and abroad who expects Liverpool to deliver after massive spending. Lets say if some one else was in-charge today after spending what Kenny has spent the fingers directed will even be very much much more. & even the owners 'll have some kind of feeling after spending much money their main goal & target for the season drifting away little by little. And the problems exist being not corrected.

Its pretty much messed up. Of course we are in a better position than last season but after players worth of 35m,20m coming in the fans & owners expected something.

Now the big question how would Kenny solve the big problem & 'll the owners realize that we need some more quality players? (problem is with Kenny splashing 35m & 20m on players who are so far failing to reach the expectations the owners 'll have doubts about his signings tho they 'll not express it)


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:39:29
I was just watching the game on LFC TV again. They were around six times that the ball crossed the box and it was nobody their to put the ball in the net. I do not understand why but in all the games is the same story. Not enough bodies in the box for assist. That is where Maxi comes in. If you look at the games he played most times scored from the left hand side of the box by crossed balls. Unfortunately yesterday it was nobody at that position and all the crosses were wasted.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 13:00:15
Thank You Edds for clearing everything up in the subject of transfer policy, I understand and appreciate the owners' hard work they've done since arriving at Anfield and their financial support for the club. I think everyone knows how much good they've done. It's clear that everyone expected and expect much more from the likes of Downing, Adam and Carroll and I hope that they will come good soon. LFC deserves to be in the hunt every year. Let's hope that this year or the next the title will be ours. Go on you Reds!!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:53:29
Hi ed', is Bellamy ever going to reach the point where he can play week in week out?or will he only be able to play every other game for the foreseeable future. I really think we've got a very good XI, with Suarez, Gerrard, Bellamy playing reg there's creativity there we're lacking at the mo. And with Lucas fit that would be a cracking team.

cheers

rikdangerous {Ed001's Note - he will never be able to play every game again, his condition has to be managed, like Ledley King.}


What condition does he have Ed?

Cheers, LG. {Ed019's Note - He has dodgy knees}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:30:27
We are paying a heavy price for league cup success and I think will continue to do so.
We have lost Lucas, Spearing and Bellamy is missing from important league games through having played in the league cup. Pepe Reina has played in every round; What if he had got injured as well.
Personally would sooner get knocked of both Cups even now and get top 4 status.
kidmillions


I agree mate. Apart from bellamy, gerrard, pepe, lucas, kelly and Suarez, the rest need to go as they are overrated and useless players. Even if we win the carling cup or fa cup, i am still not going to be happy. the top 4 is more important than the domestic trophy. I hope we get beat in the next games so the owners realize that kenny and the clueless players are rubbish and need to go. What baffles me is that spurs are bloody title contenders (which i hope they don't win the title) but with the money we spent, we are struggling to get a champions league place. it is a joke. Also weeks ago we were saying "one day a team is going to get destroyed by us 5-0 or 6-0". Well we can't even score at least one lol. But if it does happen, i hope it is against spurs.


Top 4 is a priority, but what is the point in entering into a cup competition if you have no intention of winning it.

BigD


We are, to be honest a few players short. It's only when you get a few players injured or out of form that you notice that the squad is pretty thin. I think we are missing possibly 3 players to add to what we've got. Right midfielder/ winger, Centre forward & centre midfielder. I'm sure they will come eventually! Possibly when we get the likes of Cole, Aqua etc of the wage bill.

The Irish Rover


Mucho agreeo Irish Rover.
We've already had a big change in personnel. So it has to be a matter of bit by bit over time.
But this Kenny out thing is utterly and absolutely ridiculous.
The Real KB


I have no problem with our Team with the exception of a striker . We have no one who is on form . Are we going to be satisfied with another year out of Europe ? And how are we to get players it he summer if we arent in Europe? I suggest we need a good on form striker . And if not then let's see our youth players in the squad , what's the worst they could do not score ....like our sr players are doing .


I agree mate. Apart from bellamy, gerrard, lucas, kelly, suarez,the rest need to go....

You truly do not know your own football team, so in your strange world, you would have Enrique, Agger, Skrtel,would be gone. plus Henderson and Adam when played with Lucas in their right posistion do a good job for the TEAM, and also where would the endless millions come from to create this team,no wonder you didnt sign your post as this is real life not FIFA12

RED4lifeNOTjust4XMAS


Well i would not have skirtel because he makes stupid mistakes. Also kuyt has still not scored his 50th league goal. Maxi or bellamy would score goals more than the amount of which kuyt and torres have scored this season so far. Where was agger anyway?. Also i dont play fifa12 because i dont like football games lol.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:29:18
Morning Eds

I think that a striker and winger is now of a real priority this window.I feel really sorry for Andy Carroll people calling for him to be sold etc,He at the minute does not in any way shape or form look the player who terrorised us that day at Newcastle. I still think he will come good for us but we need to be able to give him the service that is required.


We are starting to slip in the race for fourth and if we cannot start scoring and winning at home then we don't deserve it.Too many home draws will cost us.

REDFORLIFE


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:19:58
eds who do you think we should sign {Ed019's Note - I think we need a striker, winger, and attacking midfielder}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:15:53
The day after and a calmer view on yesterday......
As a supporter of 35 years ive seen many things at our club, Getting banned from Europe, Hillsborough, Kenny leaving, the ridiculous decision to have joint managers.......to Houllier failing to see where our problems were.....Rafas awesome display in getting us to win the Champions league, not to mention the performance of all the boys......then to also fail to see what we needed, whether the club were backing him with money or not...i mean who on here would seriously have shelled out on Aqua?.......and now we have Kenny back.....
Yes we have nicer football....Yes weve been taking teams apart at times with our outfield play that for the first time in years has been reminiscent of the great teams we had since the days of Shanks.......Yes we have a crowd that are behind the manager who are all willing the club to do what we'd like it to do......and Yes we have owners who appear to be right behind the cause.......BUT....
We do seem somewhere to have gone right back to failing to see the obvious, the things that smack every fan in the face and have done for pretty much 20 years or so now......We need some quality wingers, we have done for an age now, someone to terrify full backs and make those chances that arent expected from nothing, everyone can see it, but it always seems no-one at the club can, yeah we signed Downing, im sure hes a good honest pro, but in reality has he ever been someone who can take on a man and turn him inside out for fun?.....I personally dont think so........We have a nasty habit at LFC of trying to fit square pegs into round holes, its been happening since Houllier....Then towards the end Rafa was at it every two minutes....Now it seems the King wants to have a go too.....Kuyt up top on his own?.....battling is fine but with a bit of fitness training i could battle for you all day long, it dosnt make me good enough to win the premier league does it.......Playing 5 at the back against Stoke...No disrespect to Stoke but 5 at the back?.......Man utd would never have done that thayd have set up to attack at home and torn them apart for fun, as would Man City and as would Spurs........then we have the big man.....Andy Carroll, A man with a massive price tag around his neck.........he looks lost....I agree with some posts on here that if he played at Spurs he would probably be taking teams apart with all the service hed be getting....but i also agree with a lot on here who see what i see too....a man who cant find his feet most of the time let alone control a simple ball to feet or hold the ball up and out muscle defenders......
We need a change........Its early days in the window i know, but the more we wait the more were falling back due to a lack of threat up top, and the one thing id hate to see is Kennys name going through the mud because as a club we were slow to react to a clear problem that everyone can see with their own eyes....again............
Im fullly behind the cause and always will be, the club is in my heart, but lets not carry on with the blind faith we seem all too quick to grant this great club when it comes to seeing where were goin wrong.........i for one am tired of being a work in progress every single year...its never changed since the Houllier years were a work in progress and were still desperate for that premier league title now......Please Kenny if it means Darren Bent without the sell on value or if it means Tevez with astronomical wages or if it means bringing Torres back and bringing him back home like a naughty schoolboy then lets get something done....we need it now more than ever before were tossed into the also rans section again.........The Guv. YNWA JFT96


At last someone talking sense on this , agree with you 100% pal , quality needed immediatly ,
Ronnie Whelans Hair..........


Fantastic post, Guv. I too have been a supporter since 1974 so I know how you feel and agree with much of what you say. I have huge respect for KK and am certainly not asking for his head on a plate, but there are glaring problems that have to be sorted out. You hit the nail on the head with the winger situation, an ongoing disaster that has not been addressed for over a decade, not by Ged, not by Rafa, and now not by KK. Cheyrou, Diouf, Gonzales, Riera, makeshift wingers like Kuyt and now Henderson¦.the list goes on and on.

Yesterday our best attacking threat came from Enrique and Johnson, the best run at the opposition defence was made by Coates, and the most penetrating pass into the box was made by Skrtel. After splurging a huge amount in the transfer market we have a totally dysfunctional midfield, and one decent striker. Is it any wonder that Spurs are now miles ahead of us? Is it any wonder that Carroll isn't scoring?

We need two wingers, not 'are they wingers are they strikers?' types, but a left winger who plays on the left, beats players and sends in a cross from the left, and a right winger who plays on the right, beats players and send in a cross from the right. Wingers who are masters of wing play and who have not been bought to drift into the middle or act as backup strikers. if we don't finally sort out this fifteen-year-old problem CL football is unlikely and the title impossible. Obviously, we also need another striker who can scare defenders like Suarez, but hopefully finish like Fowler.

At least the problems are clear-cut, and nobody should be scratching their heads and asking why we can't finish off inferior teams: unless we get some wingers teams like Stoke, Swansea etc are NOT inferior teams. And unless we sort this out then the progress we have made since the Hodgson fiasco (and KK has given us a degree of progress) is in danger of evaporating before our eyes.

In the end it was stubbornness, a refusal to sort out mistakes made over bad players that spelt the end for Houllier and Rafa. KK has my support for the moment, whether he goes down the road of his predecessors will depend on what happens this month and in the summer.
-SH-


Great post.


I agree with some of your post, I think against Stoke we had a few problems ....firstly I hardly saw a 'back 5' it was more of a 4-1-4-1 which every now and again changed to a 3-6-1. Whilst I understand that having 3 central midfielder's is important for controlling the game (which to be fair we more than
dominated). The biggest problem for me was how isolated Kuyt was (Carroll in the previous game). I feel we need the 2 attacking 'wingers' to not hug the touchline and play more in-line with the corners of the 18 yard box. This way they have the choice to attack the penalty box or attack the wing with fullback overlapping, the other 'winger' should be busting a gut to get into the box to support the attacker.

I think more of a 4-3-3, whilst I am not attacking KK tactics per se I do feel putting the ball in the back of the net is our biggest problem, the rest to me is very good. Whilst many fans attack players I don't, I try and think with the squad (which is 100% better than when Roy left) we have how could we get better. Simple final third is our problem area (not just players) and as soon as that is fixed we will have little worries.

The way we are going I feel things will only improve so I don't really get all the moaning that many people do.
K79


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:06:36
Can i just say why do fans on this site like tel 1949 just say go back to manc land or call fans a united supporter for voicing an opinion.You may not agree with comments but it don't mean their manc supporters.Some fans just wear rose tinted glasses and can't see that our manager is clueless at times. While i may not agree with a lot of anti dalglish comments i think everyone has the right to voice their opinion if you like what they say or not.


Kenny Dalglish clueless ??...and I suppose your knowledge of the game is so unique and knowlegeable that you think you know more than Kenny?

I wear rose tinted glasses because Im a true supporter of our wonderful club, and I never attempt to imagine that I know more than the experts who run LFC.

To even 'think' that Kenny is clueless as you say, annoys me. Who on earth gave you the skill and expertise and downright arrogance to think that you understand the reasons why Kenny chooses the teams he does?

There are reasons why he does what he does, and my friend unfortunately I have no interest in your 'thoughts'. You are not an expert, you are in my mind one of the whingers.

Support another club please

tel 1949


Lets see what you say when dogleish bottles it again and walks away

Pardoe


Yes and you annoy a significant host of us on here with your narrow minded subjectiveness tel 1949.

Ozone


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:05:03
Eds, do we have any scouts in the lower English leagues and if so, do you know any players we have our eye on?
Why does it seem like Liverpool always has to pay over the odds to get a player that other teams may get cheaper? Just thinking of the likes of Rush, Souness, Neal...

L4ever {Ed001's Note - we have looked at loads, but it is not the same as it used to be in their day. These days very few top players slip through the net, all the top clubs have better scouting networks amongst the kids and the smaller clubs can't afford to run them. The lower league bargains are few and far between, which is why we are investing heavily in our youth system instead. It will take much longer to bear fruit, but it will be worth it in the long run.}


Since Kenny came there has been something like 9 x players bought, 14 x sold and 6 x out on loan.
That's a total of 29, yes 29.
A very significant turnaround of squad numbers.
But why won't some people remember this. Why does everything have to happen now. I'm not having a pop at you mr poster, but generally.
People want a magician to pull a rabbit out of a hat.
The Real KB


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:01:23
Just thought I would throw this out there :
Swap Carroll for Bent we know he scores goals everywhere he goes, buy Defoe looking to get out of Spurs shares the same agent as Steve Gerrard, prob get him for around 10 million that way we have a front 2 of Bent/Defoe with Suarez playing on the right wing Downing on the left. Outlay 10 million this window top 4 finish achievable. Eds your thoughts.. {Ed001's Note - stupidity. Bent is not coming, Defoe won't move north.}


Just thought I would throw this out there:

Why dont you try supporting a club instead of sending in ridiculous stuff to the Eds ? Numpty

Tel 1949


Brutally honest as ever ed


I don't think this is stupidity at all. See how 'stupid' it looks when we are staring down sixth spot when a proven sniffer like Bent could well get us the goals we need.


What is truely stupid is thinking why would villa swap Bent for Carroll or do you mean something else? ie sell Carroll who would buy him only an person ..oh yeh one did

Pardoe


I do support the club and have done for 30 years you person !! if we don't sort this out soon we will finish the season mid table. Other teams are closing in on us fast if we keep going the way we are that is where we are heading person !!!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:00:59
Last minute buys are good for sky sports news but we need them now because we are running out of games if we want to get in the top 4. ZAYDAN123


 

 

15 Jan 2012 12:00:58
Halfway through the window now and still no news on potential signings
I hope it's because negociations are taking place with 1 or 2 players
I really hope they bring in 2 quality signings because if they seriously think they will get top 4 with this squad, they shouldn't be managing the club
I thik it was a mistake to appoint KD when Martin O'neil was available, he would have got this squat playing decent football as well as picking up the points at home
{Ed001's Note - have you ever watched an O'Neill side? They have never played good football, just like he has never been a good manager. I can't believe the level of stupidity from people to suggest O'Neill is any more than a decent lower level manager who plays hoofball football. One big lump up front (if he hasn't got one he will stick a centre half up there just to make sure there is someone to boot the ball to), hoof it long and let him deal with it. That is O'Neill's tactics.}


Would have to disagree there ed thought he done a fantastic job at villa assembled a fealy nice team, young downing Milner even when Dunn was under him thought he was a rock 4 them. Also was not far off a champions league spot a few times. Would agree on the old long ball trick wasn't glamours but it worked 4 him. Just as it did 4 Chelsea.

Redman


Atleast o'neill wins matches with an average squad, whatever his tactics. Dalglish got lots of money to spend, bought useless players n cant get his tactics right.
Indian Buzzer


Did O'Neill win at Chelsea yesterday Indian Buzzer ?
Did Kenny (twice) ?
Pls remind me..
The Real KB


By the way I was in no way shape or form agreeing that kenny should not of got the job I want kenny there as long as he wants t be there no man apart from Gerard or carra would hold the passion and the know how to be a traditional Liverpool manager think that's what our club is about. Carnt believe people are doubting kk already you all don't know how luck we are to have him

Redman j4t96


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:59:02
Quick question for the edds, if we fail to get into the top 4 , could that be the end of kennys reign? Thx {Ed001's Note - highly unlikely, Henry has made sure to distance himself from that idea a number of times.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:58:49
I was watching Michael Macintyre the other day and he made me chuckle.

If you type Man United or Man City into google the majority of site are not football related

check and see

Sweetcorn


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:44:52
what in everyones opinion is liverpools best eleven when everbodys fit and maybe with maybe a signing or two

as i said its opinions not a slanging match to see whos the best manager

reina

johnson skrtle agger enrique

lucas

bellamy gerrard hazard ?

saurez cavani ?


Reina
Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas New MF
Suarez Gerrard Bellamy
New ST


Johnson will be sold
why would hazard join struggling to get top 4 , Real are favourites we wont sign him
Cavani we will see what happens ther


Hazard and Cavani? If this was a serious post with 1 or 2 realistic signings them 2 would never be considered.


Depends if you've got FM12 or an earlier game doesn't it ?
The Real KB


Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Enrique
Lucas
Gerrard Miereles
Aquilani
Torres Suarez


Reina
Johnson Agger Skrtel Enrique
Gerrard Lucas Adam Downing
Suarez Bellamy
Need to buy striker as well as another outside or creative mid


How do you know if hazard or cavani would not be considered unless your in the know like every other knowall on this site as i said in the first place its opinions i suppose you knew that we wouldnt get saurez because he was to good for us just remember anything can and possibly will happen


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:39:38
Just to say that if yesterdays home draw against stoke wasnt a wake up call for KK to bring in a new striker, then i dont know what will be. Were sitting 6th and possible could end up 7th today if arsenal win. Really need to bring in he firepower we used to have.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:39:17
I think there will be a shock on deadline day.

Square tomato


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:53:12
The awkward moment when you suggest a team for Bolton, and then realise you missed Kuyt off up front with Carroll. My City team still stands imo, but you know!

YNWA! (Adam)


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:35:54
We are all going on about buying a world class striker, how much do you think we need to spend? Hmmm let me think £35m! And what did we buy Carroll! Something need to change. I say bring back Torres any day he knows where the net is. Just not for Chelsea.


Weird ain't it how Torres is doing poor at Chelsea and Carroll the same at Liverpool, we should swap them or send them back to there original clubs lol


Torres is washed up - its time to move on.


Hasn't Carroll actually scored more than torres since last January? Confidence will bring goals, constantly getting slagged of will not bring confidence!

The problems are not to do with one player, its just a fact that the team are not creating enough clear cut chances. Carroll & Kuyt are not the only ones guilty of squandering the good chances that do come through.

El Diablo!


Mr. Devil you should know beter than that!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:32:37
people need to get a grip. this is a banter site which NOBODY at lfc is viewng,, if somebody who goes to every game and supports n sings etc only to rant on this site at their unhappiness .n just get things of their chest then so be it!!im not slating any of you!!facts are anybody else in charge than the beloved king and then we all would be schreaming about recent displays and poor buys, thats every club not just liverpool, as ive stated b4 i deck my 2 kids in lfc shirts and i go to games at home so im obliged to have my rant, just because adam henderson n carrol wear the shirt it doesnt command my support , the same way i el hadj diouf salif diao cheyrou didnt get an ounce of me , all this direction were going ? pretty still, ok gr8 we got new owners n got rid of hicks n gillet.bt the only way was up to be fair , we r 6th; n the table dont lie, 24goals in 21 games 7 draws at home , we were 6th last season , on current form and personnel 6th looks to be the best we can acheive, n after 80million you guys speak of progression, 80million spent a lil more wisely would have got us closer to were we need to be , he bought carrol after 14 goals in the premier league ,even michael rickets scored that james beattie etc, but 35 million thats a monster fee,if spurs had got him n they were struggling you guys would be all over their page slating them for buying him,

5gold stars {Ed002's Note - There is a PR company that looks to fan sites such as this and provides reports back to the club - but they won't be listing players to be bought of course. Other clubs do various different things with similar end results (feedback).}


Will you be going to Wembley 5gold stars if we get there ?
It was poor fayre yesterday I will admit that. Actually I thought Downing was one of the better of a generally poor bunch yesterday.
Henderson had a great game at Man City the other night.
Who exactly are you comparing to Diao and Diouf then ?
Please list..
The Real KB


Speak for yourself, Kenny knows me and I told him that all the best reports and opinions on players are on this site. Why bother scouting when you get opinions from youtube videos right at the tip of your finger. We will be signing Hazard, De Jong, Eriksen, Cavani, Goetze and Wilshere no doubt.

Jolly Red


We are just been honest in our opinions ed, some people take it too personal, we all cant be right and there is elements of truth in what everyone is saying , our back 4 are brilliat , i hope there is pr companies providing feedback , after all the americans said they would listen to the fans also,
5gold stars


Really think ur so fickle, u need to get behind the team as a whole every one is entitled to there opinion but don't make out it is all doom and gloom kk has repeatedly said its a working progress and u cannot expect him to change years of down fall over 12 months even if we have mcfc sort of money we know we're in a position were we have to spend over the odds to get players who kk wants. Iv seen a few of your posts now and it seems to me your just trying to sound controversial in order to be noticed (attention seeking is my view) and think this sort of talk is a cancer we could do without. Call your self a supporter couldn't see this sort of fan sticking with us if we were to end up like Leeds probably would be down the other end of the lanc by now. IN KING KENNY I TRUST.

Redman j4t96


Im not comparing diouf to anyone im merely saying they didnt command my support just cos they wore the jersey and the manager bought them at the time after scooping the cup treble took the flack for expensive purchases that werent ft to wear the jersey, for the money spent on the players currently in our team we could have done much better , mata could have come, turan basically said he was an lfc fan, rafa must take some flack 2 in shipping alonso out,
5gold stars


Oh and there is a second leg b4 wembely, hopefully your not going just yet as you run the risk of going to city city v palace/cardiff
5 gold stars


I did say if, 5 gold stars.
But, what's the saying - win as a team, lose as a team ?
Just don't draw as a team eh, cos certain individuals will get picked out and slated.
The Real KB


Good post 5goldstars, I agree entirely. Support the team at the game and come on here to discuss where it's going wrong as in the case of yesterday. I bet the likes of tel1949 never go a game.

Ozone


Ozone mate, 'discuss' or write-off ?
The Real KB


A discussion real kb is when different parties put opinions forward for consideration. You know my feelings on Carroll, apart from 'he plays for liverpool' I haven't seen a post on here that's provided any foundation for me to review my opinion.

To date he has demonstrated that he cannot run with the ball, can't control it, can't challenge headers correctly and hides. From all accounts his lifestyle isn't conducive with what a highly paid professional footballers should be and in my opinion he doesn't recognise how previliged he is to wear the red shirt as his hearts at Newcastle. Write off, pure and simple to me.

Ozone


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:25:39
Now that the fallout has died down I think its time to look at it sensibly. I wasn't convinced with the three Centre back thing, although on the whole we played very well. Enrique was excellent an played the wing back role very well. Johnson didn't, choosing to cut in a lot of the time and was easily dealt with. Think I would have played Kelly on the right as he tends to be more direct, gets to the byline and crosses. Only other I think who let himself down was Kuyt, but to be fair, he can't play as a lone striker, never could and especially now cos hes not good enough any more i'm afraid. definately would have had big Andy there, he is always liable to find a bit of space and use that excellent left foot of his. Still think we're going in the right direction but, god its so Fcking frustrating sometimes.

Sooty


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:29:48
Hi guys great website. It hurts me to say this but our season is already over. Kenny puts the rubbish players in the starting eleven which is the reason why we lose or draw these type of games. It is a joke. kuyt and other players must go now as they are useless and not going to win us anything. Top 4 is gone now in my opinion and i think that the owners should sack Kenny. Bring rafa back. Where was bellamy, maxi, agger, kelly etc?. Its like kenny wants to drop points on purpose by starting these useless players. I don't care about carling or fa cup because champions league football is more important. Also we have not got europa league this season and surely we have the advantages against other teams in terms of resting the players. I hope we lose our next games. I am not here to say negative stuff but the football that we have played is so boring and suarez is going to leave if we have not got champions league football next season. What do u guys think?. Thank u and YNWA


Your queston was What do we think ? Well your point on our season is over is foolsh ! Tell me how it is over league YES but it was never going to be this year and probably a couple. Carling cup NO weve one foot in the final. Fa cup NO were in the 4th round. 4th spot WHO KNOWS, we may be the outsiders for it but we dont know yet for certain ? Why dont you come back mid april as everything will be more or less answered by then.


I understand what you are saying. but we are not improving at all. We can beat arsenal, chelsea, city etc, but can't beat lesser teams. Dropping points as well. That's why i said the season is over for us now. Also what is the point of winning the carling or fa cup when top 4 is more important?. Surely u and others would agree?.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:28:02
Hey Macca

Any news on any potential signings? In particular have you got an update on he Inter player?

Thanks for your always accurate info

Benno


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:22:48
Kenny is the man for the job, tactics just did not work. Hopefully he wont try them again, we needed to get more bodies in the box, and instead most of the time there was no one at all in there. Could have used Kelly RB and Johnson RM, would not hurt to give it a go, we all know Johnson is far better going forward.


How is 3-5-1 overtly negative ?
Tony Pulis himself said he "changed a few things when we saw the Liverpool line-up".
Stoke came for a point and got one. Fair play to them because we did not play well enough on the day.
Boo hoo, that doesn't happen on my FM12.
Same old same old on this website. The (mostly) anonymous critics come out to play. Why don't one of you start a "Kenny Out" facebook or a campaign. Get some t-shirts printed and get a march going down Walton Breck Road.
Or do some of you who go to the games act like that there ?
What a bunch of ar**holes.
The Real KB


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:19:08
Saw Sunderlands sessingion (dont no how to spell it) play, he was pretty gd anyone else agree


You would have said the same for henderson last season.Look how great he turned out to be.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:19:06
we have good amount of young player but so far none of them been use even for 10 minute. I believe Suso , Cody have the material to cope Epl at least 5 to 10 minute. We are 3-1 up in Newcastle match can easy test a young guy for 10 minute. if you not let your player play in senior team no point have talented young player.

R-R {Ed002's Note - You need to push for a new manager who will play them in that case.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:18:56
I know we are pretty disappointed with yesterdays result and performance, and rightly so..

Maybe now the owners will try and buy a higher profile signing..

I do still believe that we are a lot better than we where this time last year and the club really is moving in the right direction, work in progress..

I also still believe the new players like Henderson will become astute signings given time..

It is a massive transition for any player to move from a smaller club (no disrespect intended) to one of the biggest clubs in the world..

Lets keep supporting because the good times are not that far away.

Cheers

Macca


Hey Macca. I hope you are right about the owners maybe looking into signing a higher calibre player, we need a goal poacher and then these draws turn into wins.

Thx

Thatracconstolemybacon


Totally agree with you Macca!..
But we definitely need a goalscorer!..

Any more clues on any new signings? ;)

Cheers
Big ears


Well said.
The Real KB


Macca can you tell us what names can we think in that high profile signing.This will give us new transfer rumours for this gr8 site.


It's not Henderson & Adam or any other the big problem it's this Carroll & Downing they need to adopt & start playing the football we expect. Yesterday it was more about the formation and the tactics.

Cheers Macca for the info well this case more a suggestion.. Hendo has the enthusiasm & hunger to go on to become a great midfielder.

Something on transfers, I mentioned sometime ago about Liverpool being interested in players represented by Bahia International last thing I heard there might be a player coming from Sunny Spain this January to Anfield. Would love to give more info on the player but don't think it 'll be good. There is of course chance my info being wrong.
Cheers. Don't shoot me down for the info just sharing..

Armando


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:15:02
whats wrong with everybody on here?! chill out. For most of this season we've been playing great football to watch - good one touch passing, evrybody comfortable on the ball, dominating almost every game we have played and suffocating teams with our posession. Add to that we have one of the best defensive records, have had the most shots at goal and hit the woodwork more than any other team, so we can't be playing that bad. Sure there have been too many draws but with a bit more luck we could have been challenging the top 3. There seems to have been a slight drop in performance for the last couple of games but we have just lost one of the league's most creative and influential players in Suarez and need to cope as best we can till he's back. The return of stevie should help this.

Everyone get a grip, get off Caroll's back cos it wont help him and get behind the team.

RedPotato


The fact is that we do not score and we are heading down the table


Excuses!excuse!excuse!!
keep living in dreamland mate. winners do give excuse,it is loser's anthem. suffocating who with your play? the only team getting suffocated is the team itself. who are you refering to when you say the players are comfortable on the ball? you better start telling yourself the truth, the team is not good enuff. i repeat, not good enuff.
wake up mate.


Mr Excuses Excuses Anonymous above,
Our best team in recent times 08/09 actually won nothing. On the cusp and should have, yes. But still won nothing.
This team is one game away from Wembley and a first trophy since 2006.
The Real KB


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:12:15
just a thought looking at the way we set up who is in control of tactics and getting the team prepared in training for the next game in terms of organisation and game plan? we seem to be slow with our attacking play, yes we have lots of possession but we tend to hang on to the ball to long or play square balls to the wings slowing things right down. many a time this season ive seen the quick ball through the centre was on (which would of had the defender running chasing possibly making mistakes) but it went square left or right to keep possession and the defenders just keep there shape. we need to be quick, players making dummie runs, pulling defenders around and catching players out of posistion. like we did the end of last season. seen every game this season the team reminds me of the zolas west ham team that went down played lots of good possesion football but just couldnt score enough. so thats why i am asking whos in charge because i seem to remember steve clarke was his number 2 and steve keen was coach then at west ham? possession football dosent win you matches scoring goals does. i think we need to take chances, concentrate more on the earlier balls forward and quicker passing instead of keeping possession and playing it backwards we might score more


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:06:16
Ed any news on any player joining in January? Like most fans at the moment I'm stressed watching the likes of Carroll and Henderson play for Liverpool. Clearly dalglish made a massive error they're not worthy to put on the lfc shirt. Henderson adds nothing to the team and Carroll should be put out to stud. Sorry for the rant just there are players on the team playing there heart out. {Ed002's Note - Just read the posts please.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:02:49
We some say give this players a chance, one more chance, one more season. I would agree if those players were bought for 5 or 7 mil. When we went out and spend 35mil, 22mil, 20mil etc to buy established premier league players I would personally expect them to produce after two or three games. I can not see that happening and this is proven by the results.I don't know whether is the players fault or the management. I see our players struggling to go forward apart from a couple. You watch other teams in general and when a player has possession of the ball going forward, his team mates go forward for support and to cause confusion of the opposition defense so that to brake the defense and score. Look at our team. A player goes forward and 9 out of ten is no other player there for support. They are all out 25-30 yards from goal. How can we penetrate and brake defenses like this? I would not give any more excuses to the players. They play for LFC they get paid big money the club paid big money for them and they have to perform 300% to keep up supporters happy and proud of LFC.


I agree, we seriously need to work on off the ball movement in training.


They are trying...there is no doubting the lack of commitment...it's just a lack of confidence as a consequence of the hefty price tag! They're just human whatever we think....and they will come good.....so forget about the money.

DaveyBootle


The management should be hard on them Like whisky nose with his players


What does hefty price tag have to do with performance? we always have excuses for everything; we have become a club of excuses. real madrid bought c.ronaldo for 80m and his performing for them. he is not hiding behind his price tag. aguero,silva, suarez,mata, etc are playing well for the various teams. so stop with all these lame excuses. they are not good enough.period!


Get Kenny to throw a few boots at the players at the team talk

You Jump up in the Air Carroll and bleedin head the ball towards the goal no more falling around the bleedin place.

As for you Kuyt an addidas boot smashes into Kuyt's head don't bleedin miss any more open goals you spanner.

Results would then improve!


Ten men behind the ball is gonna make life difficult for any side though isn't it ?
That yesterday was one of those matches that you hope you sneak 1-0, then instantly forget it afterwards.
But Kuyt unfortunately put that chance wide.
The Real KB


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:00:49
Not so much hysteria than dispair...we are becoming predictable for teams, that's why there so many draws at home...our finishing is a joke! We buy a monsterours 'unplayable' centre forward and want to turn him into something he's not...why did we buy him? BECAUSE OF HIS POWER IN THE AIR AND SHOOTING! Yet, hardly a decent cross to cater for this ability! If he was at Spurs he would be unstoppable! So, why why are we not using him like we should! There's no point in buying a player then trying to change what attracted us into buying him in the first place!!!
And, why are we setting defensive team formations against the like of stoke etc...
In KK I trust...sadly, only just.
I don't know who we're buying but we need a player that can supply ' the danger element' like Suarez, Gerrard...like Fowler used to. Otherwise don't waste money on the likes of Henderson (potential yes, but...)...
Sorry fellow reds, but I don't see us getting into the top 4 as it is...


 

 

15 Jan 2012 11:00:23
Morning Eds fellow reds . forget about spending 30 million on a striker in jan , just pull morgan in to first team he will do a job for us he is a natrual finisher what we need .cheers psv


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:58:55
Guys lets face the reality. last year was the chance to spend our money wisely. However, we never did that and now don't expect big names. that ship has sailed. This has nothing to do with disrespecting Kenny but the reality is there and I still can't understand some of the decisions made.
1. Why did we spend 35 mil on Caroll ? It is not like he failed when he came here but he didn't have the record for that kind of price tag. if we spent 20 mil on him, that still will be taking a huge risk. only 12 goals in the premier league is not worth that much
2. May be,we can say that Aquillani is light weighted or we may say that he didn't want to be here, but why did we sell Miereles at the last minute ? because we cant pay him 60 thousand a week ?
3. Henderson is a wonderful player with a promise, but were we in need of that kind of player at the time. we decided to buy him while still having Gerrard, Aquillani and Meireles in his position, in my opinion all better than him
4. I do understand why downing was bought and that is the player i say it hasn't worked so far although it seemed right at the time. still, 20 mil pounds could buy you better natural wingers.
5. What i can not understand the most is, we have Camolli as our chairman, we thought we brought someone with good eyes for talent and who has a connection through out europe, especially in france. but we decided to over spend our 70 mil pounds on very average three english players. that i don't get. every one else says trust kenny, but mistakes are mistakes.


In my opinion, admit the mistake before it is too late. sell Caroll for 20 mil and there are many strikers out there with better experience and ability for that kind of money or a bit more.
options: Remy, Llorente, podosky, Damba ba

second thing to do is find a natural right winger. for God sake, we have been crying for that kind of winger for many years now. how come managers come here and don't give priority to that. we need it. all the better teams in the league have those kind of players.

third thing to do is, starting from next year give the young players a chance atleast for the league cup games

Miccmak {Ed002's Note - Comolli is not Liverpool's chairman and did not decide to spend the money himself - it would hev been a joint decision and the final word over players rests with Dalglish.}


Absolutely spot on (apart from the chairman / director of football thing)
I am surprised that more people don't share the same view

We all know Carroll was a panic buy even kk insists his fee / value is only 25m but not playing to his strengths with quality wide men is criminal - only sg put in 3 decent crosses which brought ac alive and look like a threat


Kk has far more control over signings than comolli.
carroll, downing, adam, and henderson were kk signings. pls FSG, dont give kk any money to spend. he will probably spending it on ............ players. lets promote from within the youth rank.

1.henderson is not better than conor coady, suso, jonjo( he should be starting ahead of him).
2. is carroll better than ngoo?
3. charlie adam should not be playing ahead of spearing, that guy gives stupid freekicks away. why did we sign him in the first place.
4. i dont want to waste my time on downing. give raheem sterling a chance to prove himself

if they are good enough, they are old enough.

Nigerian fan(tooblack)


Ed002, my mistake about camolli. but am sure you get my point. apart from Coates and suarez all the other choices seem to be Kenny's. why haven't we utilized Camolli's expertise?
Honestly editor, are you suggesting that the money was well spent ?

miccmak {Ed002's Note - It is a collaborative process and there is a management team. Camolli will be spending a lot of his time looking at player options, not just for now but for the future.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:56:46
Again I have stayed off the site after yesterday because the amount of anti Kenny anti team must have gone through the roof! Everybody has a right to an opinion but what I would say is we are on the verge of a final are there or there abouts in the league, with a bit of luck we may get 4th spot and a cup! I would be happy with that and it would show we ARE moving in the right direction. What do people want to do get rid of the manager after just one season?? If so what happens when his replacement doesn't deliver what the Verruca Salt generation want, do we then bin that manager after a season and so on and so on! If you want to criticise at least make it constructive and lay off the Kenny has got to go CRAP!!

Waro


Good post mate.

Sooty


Spot on waro im with you 100% as are all TRUE liverpool fans. the disagrees will come from those who are angry and not thinking clear enough


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:53:17
We will sign a 15m+ striker.
Marius


Well that's pretty darn tall!

Square tomato


Ha, defend that one Huth and
Shawcross...


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:52:37
Dont know about you?

It's these ups and downs that makes supporting LFC so exciting!

We always perform better when our ar*e is against the wall and were chasing. Would much rather be chasing at this stage of the season than up top. Have faith it will end up ok.


Well said mate.

DaveyBootle


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:51:46
I thought the 3 at the back failed yesterday because Johnson clearly did not understand how to play as a wing back. He kept cutting in making it easy for Stoke to defend through the middle. Can anyone tell me where Downing was meant to be playing? Did he have the 'free role' in the team? the system when played properly should encourage the wing backs to get forward and cross to a minimum of 3 players in the middle and usually 4. How many times did that happen yesterday? A positive - I thought Adam's passing was fantastic yesterday and hope he can keep that up.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:47:27
I read many people share same opinion as mine regarding rafa and kenny,where on mu every post I said that if rafa was fully supported we would have won pl for definet,however rafa did have his poor signings again he was never allowed as much money freedom as kenny,I have one question for all lfc fan who says that we should support our team they will come good,and also our manager,then why all these fan who want to support team and manager never supported Roy Hodgson?whay people wanted him out,coz he never produced results,if people wanted him out due to results then why support manager now wehen results are poor?
None of these british player who we bought will never be bought by any of UK top 4 team,none in europe,I mean how many british player are wanted in Europe,apart from rooney,will madrid or barca come for hendo,adam,downing or the great carroll?...
It really hurt to support lfc for 25years and see same results over and over again,I did say yesterday MR Henry will wait till summer if lfc not in champ lge KD will go,and for these we will not spend in jan as owners don't want to burn their hard earn money...


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:43:42
Everyone havin a go at the new signings, downing, carroll blah blah blah, anyone else think enrique is a beast of a player? Roblfc86


He rejected a career as a sprinter to play football... says it all really.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:43:00
To say KK was the wrong choice of manager at a time when we were struggling so badly is wrong , I believe he was the right man at that time to lift the club and give the fans hope and passion back .
Having said that I don't believe kk is the man to take us forward . No true LFC fan should ever call for his head like some have done recently , but I believe we do need to look into where we go from here sooner rather than later . KK will and should always be considered a true legend both as a player and manager 1 st time round and thanked for rescuing us from the abiss .
Sadly kK's reign may be shorter than we all wanted.

MC.


We need to be looking for a new manage to come in over the summer. Jourgen Klopp for me. Who would be your choice?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:40:17
If we'd had a better forward than Kuyt yesterday, it would've been 2-0 easily. He had two easy headers and many other chances. The team didn't play bad, and Kenny's tactics weren't bad. Kuyt let the side down, and in fairness to him, you could see he knew it after he missed the header at the back stick. He tries his hardest and truely cares for LFC, but he is i fear, past it.

YNWA! (Adam)


Was he ever any good,i know great work ethic and a tryer but lets face it would he get into man utd, man city, arsenal, tottenham, chelsea team's.no he wouldn't no good being a work horse if you have na ability REDMICK


4 years ago many believed he was good enough to be in Barcelonas team. He was deadly in the area, consistent down the wing, and gave a higher percentage effort the is possible to comprhend. John Aldridge i think was the one who publically said Kuyt could make Barca's team. In his prime, he could've, but now, he lost the little pace he had, cannot run for as long and seems much less sharp in the area. You cannot question his cause, only his ability in age.

YNWA! (Adam)


Continue to live in the world of if mate.
if we'd a better forward......
if hadn't been the woodwork.........
if we'd taken our chances.......
if we'd better manager.......
keep ifing away while the other teams are moving away from you.


If my dog had not stopped for a P I would have had rabbit for T...Bobbinred


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:36:57
Hey eds, I know we are looking at some young players such as Wilfred Zaha, and I know that building for the future is a good thing, but we also need players for here and now, especially a right winger and a striker. In your opinion, who do you think the two most likely players to join Liverpool are (a winger and a striker)?
SirFluffysworth {Ed002's Note - I cannot answer any questions about who the "most likely" players are to join. Sorry. I can tell you which players have been enquired about when I know, and I can say the club have no chance of buying when I know, but most likely remains rather too subjective.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:35:52
To all u slating kenny an OUR football side do u not remember where we were one year ago, well let me remind u, relegation zone! Now it's been a massive turn around ok we're dropping points but this years gone ten times better than last season started it takes time to get bak were we we're a couple seasons bak. Stop cursin already it's only january an we're still in wit a shot of fourth place which is our goal! So stop moanin!!! Ynwa


Why all just one years a go what hodson did bla bla bla. why Not Rafa's Time. if rafa use £110m in a transfar window the team win EPL for sure. Rafa want Silva , Villa in Liverpool no money to support him.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:33:41
Tried to give the site a wide birth yesterday, while all the histeria comes and goes.

I will say again what i keep saying, time and patience is required. Knee jerk changing sands posters are not required, Rome was'nt built in a day and all the other cliches you want to add. Time and patience, this is not a blinkered view its merely looking at the bigger picture. Time and patience.

KNEE JERK


Liverpool wasted loads of money last summer not just on one mistake but four , and we are too eager to get players that we always over pay we all want the best for us and lfc but we need kenny and others to look at what they are doing lfc will not bring the glory days back with poor tactics at home , one man forward lines 5 at the back against teams who do not attack , poor buys etc etc , but we can not sack managers all the time but i am mystfied as to why kenny has the players he has now his title winning teams did not have the negative tactics he uses now ie lfc and brfc, stop being frightened and attack , attack attack .red mick tag


Can tell you mr. henry that. i believe it is his money involved and not yours; when you buy your own club, you can tell your fans that. this is an investment mate not a plaything. you people will come here and tell other people how to support their team.


When i buy my own club? its my opinion and your comment is stupid what mr henry does with his money is up to him but i feel after supporting the team since 1959 and seeing all the good things at lfc and seeing ipswich win the second division and the the first division the next year with simple side foot passing football i think i know that mr henry is wasting his money on poor players and the mr bean idea of what makes a good footballer, hope i am wrong but i will be there for life will mr henry?red mick tag


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:15:51
Dear me there is a lot of hysteria on here today when actually we are at lot closer to having a great team than you think. Two more players of a good/world-class ability would see us challenging for the top 4 perhaps even higher next season. The challenge is do we buy now at silly prices for the world class finisher we need and pacey winger to play on the right wing? Or do we put our efforts into getting to the Carling Cup final and having a good FA cup run and accept 6th or 7th this season with a view to going all out for 4th next season.

My view is we need Champions league football at all costs because of the revenues and attraction of Liverpool to the big players. Also you look at Spurs and it's taken 'Arry a good number of years to get Spurs where they are. Give Kenny chance.

Goalkeeper, Defence, Midfield and a creative striker are all there as are good replacements for the bench. We simply lack pace and finishing which can be addressed now by paying silly money - probably £50m + which I would advocate given the need for CL qualification or we pay a bit less in the summer.

For me Kuyt, Maxi and Aurelio are those that need to leave in the summer so we will need to replace those players as well. I expect Henderson to come on next season, remember his age and improvement for Adam. For me I'd give Carroll one more season and then get rid if performances do not improve.

Hessle Red


Rather have a trophy . its in the record books for all time . in 20-30 years time who will remember 4th place . old chinese proverb every thing comes to thee who waits . were only a john barnes type player away from ever lasting success.

alan waddle


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:06:42
the reason why we not buy player in January owner is less impress by the sign we make so far. only 1 player is pay back his price Enrique. people may say Suarez too. but his attitude make him and us suffer. he is in 5/6 year with Ajax. play lot of CL football and still not learn that you play football by foot not mouth. he have bite ear and suspend 6 match when he is in ajax. people might want my head. but look at all the best striker they all been foul vary hardly . u have to take it as that part of the match. but Suarez speak too much on the field.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:27:27
I only ever read discussions on this website, but the negativity frustrates me and I needed to post something. Everyone is slating the squad, kenny and anything Liverpool. When we won the champions league we had a worse team with oh Gerard and alonso being the stand out players. The difference between now and then is US the supporters and fans, we are the missing player, the playmaker. The fans won that cup as we were so vocal, loud and confident and this natural adrenalin and positivity run through the vains of our players and made them feel like gods and they subsequently played like gods. I don't live in Liverpool so I only go to a few games a season and I have noticed how quiet and critical the crowd is getting, how do you think our new and young players must feel playing in this atmosphere? That's why at home we are poor and not adventurous as everyone is scared to make a mistake that's why when we are away from home we perform better as there is less of a negativity atmosphere and this doesn't affect the players and they perform better as a result. A good of example of this is Torres, at an field he was adored like a god with songs and every supporter screaming his name, singing songs and wearing his shirt. He must of felt fantastic and as a result played fantastic. Now at Chelsea, the fans dont adore him don't sing songs for him and as a result his confidence is low and it affects his performances. This is what we are doing with carol. The only signing we need this January is the supporters! If we can get an field rocking like those European nights and singing our players names out they will feel fantastic and you watch them play.


Players thrive on the crowd being vocal,the crowd is not going to be vocal looking at this drivel week in week out.the crowd need something to shout about and right now they are not getting it.liverpool need a couple of exciting flair players to get the fans vocal again.how can somebody get excited about the inevitable.REDMICK


Sorry mate, those European nights are still a long way off. It looks like Europa league next season (if we can beat city and take the league cup). Simply put the current team is not good enough for Champs league, we have Newcastle breathing down our necks, and could be 7th at the end of the weekend. If the team is not improved we could potentially find ourselves 25-30 points behind the leaders at seasons end. Right, so I ask you honestly is that anything to be proud of, are we happy with that, answer is NO!n how could we be, it shows that we have fallen behind at a alarming rate!.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:18:57
thats it Kenny has pretty much f...d up everything... Carroll= Big mistake, Downing= a mistake forced by the big mistake...

bye bye top 4.. City 'll smash us 3-0, then UTD 2-1..all over.. paying the cost for buying s...t players... they can't take us to next level, they just can't take us.......
with all this madness still no one coming in... yes of course, NESV have no endless amount of money, the money they kindly provided have been wasted ...what a lame act of business... embarrassing.. can't believe Kenny is in the middle of all this..

Time to redeem Kenny.. sell the two of them ASAP! CARROLL OUT. DOWNING OUT.
they won't deliver no matter how much you wait.. wait for another 2 yrs..4 yrs.. they just can't & won't deliver.. not made for Liverpool.
It's boring to watch when these kind of players play in Liverpool jersey...


What are you doing with a Liverpool jersey? Get lost and support your club.

RenegadeRed


Hear hear renegadered these lot arent real fans


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:04:52
i think we are really missing lucas. him not being there means gerrard and adam are having to do that work and hardly push forward. that means that jordan henderson is the one providing the balls for the striker and lets be honest, hes not the best finding players, tends to make wrong decisions. im not posting this to have a go at jordan. i think against stoke we were also missing jay spearing, who has done a fantastic job so far. we can all agree that adam commits dumb fouls and cant tackle. im not having a go at any1, i will support these players as i know they are giving 110%. we can all agree that we are missing lucas and of course suarez. with andy carroll, to everyone who thinks they are football experts, give him time. believe me, im frustrated aswell, and sometimes i wanna kill him, but we only have to look back to lucas a few years ago. we jeered lucas, we wanted him to be sold, but hard work and determination, is why we love him today. provide support for those players who havent been performing well. ill agree yesterdays performance was absolutely terrible, but as shanks said, " if you can't support the team when we lose and draw, dont support us when we win".

red moose


A world class player is bound to be missed . hope he comes back like he was , but it was a very bad injury


 

 

15 Jan 2012 10:04:16
An Unhappy Torres was still equal to goals at Liverpool. But Andy Carroll is=nothing.. happy or unhappy.. I would have kept Ryan Babel here & paired him with Suarez..Babel is way better than this immature good for nothing Goerdie.


Babel would of done well at Liverpool now considering the way we play the problem with him was he made the wrong decision too many times, but what we would give for his pace and ability to take on players, same goes for J.Cole he is having a brilliant season with Lille 8 goals in 31(1 every 4), problem with him was he wasnt given a fair chance his 1st seasin he was mainly injured and then come back and was shipped out on loan but he could be the missing link for us at the moment.

BigD


Kenny bought luis to play with torres . torres pulled the rug from under kenny . if hed stayed we would of had the best two forwards in the world . kenny was gutted when torres went . they would all be playing for runners up now . if suarez and torres been our front two . podolski is the one in summer . stick with kenny.

alan waddle


Meireles also done the dirty on him .


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:59:53
Question for the ed's..

Who do you feel Liverpool are most likely to sign this January window?

Thanks :)

LFC {Ed002's Note - We cannot say.}


Ed002 is this because you dont know or because you dont want to have to deal with mounds of idiots guessing at who it could be and pestering you to share the info? {Ed002's Note - It is because it is impossible to say the "most likely" to sign.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:56:48
Like so many loyal Red Fans,i watched the game on Sat, I just dont understand K.D or Liverpool at this molment.
I understand its hard to bring in top players in the Jan window,and money is always tight, but with no investment in a striker could cost us a place at Wembley,and a season with no cups again.what would this cost us in the long run.
Lets not forget who we are playing,Man City will not be easy to beat at Anfield,our home form stinks.
I know because you play for Liverpool you are not given the right to play in a final,you have to earn it.
I would love my young son to follow the team i love,but at this molment all i hear form them is Man utd this, Chelski this.
WE NEED THIS TO CHANGE.


A similar scoreline will see us at wembley would above settle for that . the 3 at the back was a dress rehearsal for man city .


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:54:16
I for one never wanted Rafa to leave.
I understand the situation the whole club was in under H&G and he went.
Things got worse when Hodgson was appointed. A major mistake and we went backwards. He was not the boss that united the club and supporters.
KK was then appointed. Right decision at the time. he united everyone. Has stabilised the team. Improved the squad.
Every player that has come in has been an improvement on the player that left.
In the early stages of this season, we were saying how unlucky we were for not scoring when hitting the bar/post all those times or complaining about the opposition keepers getting M.O.M nearly every game.

There comes a point where it comes down to the fact that it isn't bad luck and that there is actually something wrong.

Do we need a different type of player in the 1st team (clinical finisher, tricky winger, playmaker)? Do we need extra shooting practice? Are the right tactics/formations being used for the games? Are the wrong subs taking place (taking Downing off instead of leaving him on to use his pace and maybe get some crosses into the box)?

Yesterday was not good enough!!

I watched the match and it reminded me of the type of performance under Hodgson. Very defensive minded, no ideas once we got anywhere near the final third, wrong substitutions, wrong tactics and formation right from the start (3 CB against their one very slow striker)!!

I'm not saying I want KK out now. Just that you can only blame bad luck so many times. It can't be a coincidence that we keep saying we should have won the match and would have if...........

I personally would love Rafa back.
Just as the 1st team manager though.
Keep the current set-up for identifying and buying players.
He doesn't need to have any control over the youth set-up.
KK can move back upstairs and oversee everything.
Re-instate the boot room and get people around him and Rafa that will step into the positions needed without the major upheaval we have had every time (since Souness came in and broke everything up).

Let Rafa get nearly all of his 1st choice targets and we would have a brilliant team/squad.

Don't forget, if you look at the world class players we had (Gerrard, Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Reina) and add the players he wanted, but wasn't able to buy (Aguero, Alves, David Villa, Silva & Mata) on top of the very good players we had as well and we would have had an awesome team/squad.

Get him back at the end of the season if we don't finish in the top 4.


I have to agree, I love Kenny, but I think he should of just been here to steady the ship till last summer, and then someone like Rafa could of taken over.

maka YNWA JFT96


Raffa's tactics were laughable at times and his tactics of resting players when we needed to win cost us the league. it appears you have a short memory to say the least, and alot of his buys were extremely questionable. And maybe if he had of not bought a lot of the carp he did maybe he would of been able to buy some of the better players he wanted, please don't say he wasn't given enough money for these players as he spent and wasted quite a lot of under his reign. stuart


Although i want to disagree, i have to say i don't. Kenny has been good, his signings havee been good. But we're LFC and we're Great! Rafa should never have been sacked. Didn't we finish where we currnetly are under Dalglish in his last season? Having said that, selling Alonso was his undoing. Alonso is one of the best Midefielders on the planet. Would love to see Benitez and Alonso back. I think possibly Dalglish and Rafa might even make a good pair. However i don't know how we'd decide on who was manager, and who was assistant. Personally, i think they both love the club so much they wouldn't care. Rafa made excellent signings. The amount of money he spent is irrelvant. We made a profit (transfer fee wise) on basically every player he bought anyway!

YNWA! (Adam)


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:54:05
thats it Kenny has pretty much f...d up everything... Carroll= Big mistake, Downing= a mistake forced by the big mistake...

bye bye top 4.. City 'll smash us 3-0, then UTD 2-1..all over.. paying the cost for buying s...t players... they can't take us to next level, they just can't take us.......
with all this madness still no one coming in... yes of course, NESV have no endless amount of money, the money they kindly provided have been wasted ...what a lame act of business... embarrassing.. can't believe Kenny is in the middle of all this..

Time to redeem Kenny.. sell the two of them ASAP! CARROLL OUT. DOWNING OUT.
they won't deliver no matter how much you wait.. wait for another 2 yrs..4 yrs.. they just can't & won't deliver.. not made for Liverpool.
It's boring to watch when these kind of players play in Liverpool jersey...


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:46:21
Maybe i dont know much about football but ive been around europe for the past month proudly wearing my liverpool shirt, and every person who ive come across have told me the same coment. Andy carol is s**t. Every body cant be wrong?


Really? Everyone in the room with me thinks you are a tw*t. Everybody cant be wrong?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:39:11
hi eds there seems to be a lot of unhappy supporters on here today of which i can understand and we all have the rite to complain etc. But i am calling all fans to really get behind the lads next home game sing for big andy show the ladwhy we are the best supporters in the world as suarez has said with all the support we have gave him! it was not big andy fault he was massively over priced it was a panic buy as trayter wanted out and the big man was in good form at the time. As for downing i was never convinced when he was at villa but again we have support these lads getting on there backs does not help them at all. As for the king i do beleave it was his own fault yesterday that we drew he was very negative and at home aswell !! would you see any of the top 8 clubs putting a formation out at HOME like that NO you would not i still beleave that kenny is the man for the job and its work inprogress but he must stand up for yesterday and state he was wrong !!!!! As for transfers i do hope we have some money as we need a striker i would love to see benzeman but maybe come the summer as for now i would look at zaha or defoe a striker that plays on the shoulder like dare i say it owen us too lol but i would say the most important player we need is honda or someone like that someone like modric who can pick a pass pick a deffence apart etc and my last comment to everyone on andy stewart charlie and dirks back is lucus what a player and how we miss him and lets be honest and me included wanted this lad down the road a long time ago but with out dought he is now he is one of the first on the team sheet so give the others some time and more important are full backing thats why we are the best supporters in the world we are a FAMILY so lets stick together and show this. oh and well done hendo i think he will be a great player incoming seasons and has the passion running through him keep it going lad !!!! oh and finaly thanks to the owners for everything so far i do beleave they will back kenny to go out there and get the lads we need for the next step back to domanation of the world again

any veiws welcom ed
cheers scoobytommo


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:37:24
We should stop defending carol. We have paid a very obserd amount of money for this player that dos'nt even know how to run. Get him out now. He dos'nt deserve to wear the liverpool shirt. Out,out,out.


I remember all of us saying that about Lucas & now he's one of the first names on the team sheet. Carroll will come good but he's only as good as his service. The 3-0 defeat to Man City was a prime example. Plenty of the ball in good areas, but when Downing & Johnson had chances to play balls in early, they hesitated or cut back giving the City defence time to get in position. Gerrard showed against Newcastle that a good early ball is what Carroll craves! Put him in the team for 90 minutes game after game & Carroll & the players will adapt!!


Why do people keep blaming Carol for the amount he went for its not his fault he went for 35 million, blame KK and comoli I think a lot of fans are being unfair towards Carol don't get me wrong he is not worth 35 m and never will be but we have to support him he is only 22 yrs old.


You don't deserve to post as a Liverpool "supporter"

MIKEY


N Unhappy Torres was still equal to goals at Liverpool. But Andy Carroll is=nothing.. happy or unhappy.. I would have kept Ryan Babel here & paired him with Suarez..Babel is way better than this immature good for nothing Goerdie.


Yet more un-named bullsh*t

cozinoz


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:31:03
Herd kk say we lacked creativity. Thing is we dont have any creative player apart from stevie and suarez. All the rest dont have a clue. I think kk tacticts last night were absalutly wrong. We cant play home with so many difensive players. And 1 striker who hasnt played up front for a very long time, im soorry to say but im not happy with our signings, buisness of our signings and tacticts on the pitch, sorry not good enough in my opinion.


When you don't buy creative player how u looking for creativity ? Kuyt is our only striker in the field why ? did we play for a draw. Maxi not involve in City match not even home match ? 7 home draw is not luck and funny. Time to go Kenny. Bring a creative manager for creative football.


This post was going so well until the '...all I'd like from this transfer window is simple...'! Any way, it is disappointing to see us drawing at home. We are short of creativity and the opposition knows that if they sit back we'll struggle to get through. KK picked a side to try and pass away through Stoke as he knew they would sit deep and try to muscle us out of the game. This is exactly why Carroll didn't start, because it would be very difficult for him to get on the end of crosses with Stoke's style, proved when he came on. We played three across the back with the wing backs to push on and giving attacking support - which worked. And then we would have 5 back (including the lanky Coates to head and Carra to organise) to protect against the Stoke set-piece threat, they're only threat - which worked, another clean sheet! We had Adam pinging balls (90% perfect) all over the pitch. Kuyt was the weakest link by a long away, his poor ball control didn't work in a box that was tightly packed with Stoke players and he gave it away alot. With Suarez instead of Kuyt it could have been very different. KK probably started with the hope that we would knick a goal in the first half hour and then the game would open up to allow Bellamy and possibly Carroll off the bench. We we're pretty solid at the back with an unfamiliar backline. We bossed the midfield. Adam played some fantastic balls out to the wings. Carroll got muscled out by Shawcross and Huth as predicted. Only mistake was Kuyt should probably have gone off for Carroll, but Kuyt is probably more likely to knick a goal in the box than Downing any way and he almost did with the header. Disappointing 0-0 but I think it would have been a different story with Suarez instead of Kuyt. Time for Kuyt to go and replace with one or two young live wires that can run, move and finish. Have to hand it to Pulis and Stoke, a fine defensive display.


Are the Eds asleep this morning because that reply ('This post was going so well...') was for the post below at 9:24! {Ed002's Note - We don't tag the replies to the posts, the posters do.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:24:33
i know we've just drew our 7th home game and yes that's not good enough by a long shot but i'm sick of so called fans/supporters coming on here after every backward step and slagging off kenny and his new signings,lets put things into perspective,12 months ago we had an unhappy torres leading our line,by the end of the transfer window we'd 'swapped' him and babel for suarez and caroll,now hands up who was elated with this bit of business,now roll on to the summer,we all knew for big andy to be really effective we needed some width in the team so we went out and bought downing,arguably one of the best wingers in the prem last season,another player that stood out last season was charlie adam,apparently his set pieces alone are worth £10m alone,so we went out and bought him,in my opinion i think the henderson signing,which was surprising may have had something to do with gerrards fitness problems i wonder if the medical staff might have said gerrard was finished or wwould struggle to play 10 games or so,so i think maybe kenny had to fast forward some of his long term plans hence we bought henderson a year or 2 before we planned.
so back to today here we sit in the middle of january 5 points off a champions league spot without really firing on all cylinders,gerrards just come back,suarez will be refuelled when he comes back against spurs,mid term reports on the new signings,henderson improving game by game,adam started well,just needs to improve his fitness,stamina and downing,unfortunaley he has been disappointing so far but we all know what the lad can do so lets look forward to a stronger 2nd half of the season from him,as for big andy,well this is the only one i'm struggling with,i will always support a player while he plays for our great club but if he was to leave i wouldn't be overly upset,all i'd like from this transfer window is simple,soldado and hernandez from valencia.
paul d


This post was going so well until the '...all I'd like from this transfer window is simple...'! Any way, it is disappointing to see us drawing at home. We are short of creativity and the opposition knows that if they sit back we'll struggle to get through. KK picked a side to try and pass away through Stoke as he knew they would sit deep and try to muscle us out of the game. This is exactly why Carroll didn't start, because it would be very difficult for him to get on the end of crosses with Stoke's style, proved when he came on. We played three across the back with the wing backs to push on and giving attacking support - which worked. And then we would have 5 back (including the lanky Coates to head and Carra to organise) to protect against the Stoke set-piece threat, they're only threat - which worked, another clean sheet! We had Adam pinging balls (90% perfect) all over the pitch. Kuyt was the weakest link by a long away, his poor ball control didn't work in a box that was tightly packed with Stoke players and he gave it away alot. With Suarez instead of Kuyt it could have been very different. KK probably started with the hope that we would knick a goal in the first half hour and then the game would open up to allow Bellamy and possibly Carroll off the bench. We we're pretty solid at the back with an unfamiliar backline. We bossed the midfield. Adam played some fantastic balls out to the wings. Carroll got muscled out by Shawcross and Huth as predicted. Only mistake was Kuyt should probably have gone off for Carroll, but Kuyt is probably more likely to knick a goal in the box than Downing any way and he almost did with the header. Disappointing 0-0 but I think it would have been a different story with Suarez instead of Kuyt. Time for Kuyt to go and replace with one or two young live wires that can run, move and finish. Have to hand it to Pulis and Stoke, a fine defensive display.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:19:24
Carroll is like the expensive bottle of champagne received by Carlito from Benny Blanco from the Bronx.


We rate Carroll because of his price Tag. his Record in EPL wasn't that high class like Rooney. I don't know for why we Pay £35m. Jakson Marninez only £8m and his record is very good but we not dare to take risk £8m . How did we take Risk £35m ?

R-R


This has to be some reason why Liverpool paid so much for Carroll, could it be the reason we got Enrique at a reasonable price, bearing in mind Johnson cost a fortune?. Back in Jan 11, Did we need to replace Torres so quickly with Suarez already in the squad?


We rate Carroll because of his price Tag. his Record in EPL wasn't that high class like Rooney. I don't know for why we Pay £35m. Jakson Marninez only £8m and his record is very good but we not dare to take risk £8m . How did we take Risk £35m ?

R-R

how can rooneys record in premier league be more high class. 67 games for everton in pl scored 15 goals

Carroll was 19 games 11 goals in EPL, he scored 31 goals in total of 80 games.

based on rooneys 20million transfer and the price increase now for English players we have got him really cheap on that record. He may never get 20 plus a season but he plays for the club either back him of support Man city


£25m and £35m not same ? and Rooney was in England team. his movement and body language was very energetic. look at carroll after 20 minute of the match he looks lazy to go to ball.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:15:20
Not a rumour just a debate

should king kenny be sacked?

reason i ask is because. if it was anyone else other than him we would be calling for his head.

look at the players he has brought in carroll 35 million downing 20 million henderson 20million plus others but theses 3 have not been very good. so 75 million that could of been spent else where. maybe on a few players better than them lot and paid abit better wages

kenny is my childhood hero like most of the people on here proberly but just asking a question


should kenny be sacked. beleive for yes and unbeliveable for no


Childhood hero and you come on here and say that ? get a grip will you

Tel 1949


Who would you replace him with?

JamieMK


If any other man then sure we all want his head. but just He is Liverpool Legend we may divided for the vote. but after spend £110m the team should be Rocking. and we are not. buy at least 2 player to fight for no4 place or mark my Word we will finish no 6.

R-R


I just think he needs to let Commoli deal with the transfers more and should get his tactics right for this season, like he did last season.

Cheers eds for the great work you do on the site, much appreciated!

maka YNWA JFT96


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:15:05
Kuyt= workhorse,no ball control,wins the ball but then looses it again,and again,and again. Downing=headless superchicken, runs fast, dosnt no what to do with the ball,1 out of 10 good crosses. Charlie adam= can go back to blackpool, not even close to being a liverpool player,needs a gps on the pitch,crap, henderson= waste of money for what he's contributed to the team,maybe on the long term? And finally carol, what were we smoking when we paid 35mil for him,best kanja ever i supose. No ball control,no skill, no pace, no stamina, no agility, no vision, no technique, hits 1 good header out of 10 on target. But he's got great hair. What a waist of money.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:08:33
Hi eds i am just wandering if any of you know whats happened to maxi. Is he out of favour or injured or is there more to it?

Thanks
mighty reds {Ed002's Note - Dalglish had said that due to his age he would not play every game.}


OK, but maxi not play in City match too. {Ed002's Note - So you seee secret messages in that?}


When i pay too much money in a week and not use him back to back then let him go. at least the money will be saving. january is open so he can go. {Ed002's Note - That should help clear out another dozen players or so. So would you would cancel Maxi's contract and pay him off making him a free agent? I assume you could use the endless pile of FSG money to do this.}


Its have to be end . and i am sure we may have a negotiations with him. if he never leave his whole life we will keep him for bench ? {Ed002's Note - No, he is likely to leave in the summer.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 09:04:09
Hi Ed's

Maxi has not even featured on the bench in our last two matches, does this suggest that he is ready to pack his bags for another club? {Ed002's Note - No it does not signify that, but he will likely be leaving the club at the end of the season.}


If he not play back to back match and he not on Kenny's plan then let him go. as his salary is sky high. {Ed002's Note - So you want to reduce the squad to just those who are playing every game?}


I want to reduce the highly paying not use player. there are lots of good young back up in the team. {Ed002's Note - That'll be Suarez and Lucas out then.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 08:58:47
I have to say i for one can't wait to see the yellow line on the bottom of the sky sports news screen saying Kenny has been sacked.If managers are judged on results and players signed then he should be on his bike.I think the owners know how much of a mistake they made appointing him and giving him cash to waste. Henry said top 4 and everything else is a failure i dont know about most fans but i would rather get top 4 then a mickey mouse cup. Lets be honest if he didnt waste so much money on rubbish Henry would have given him more cash in this window. I can't blame the owners i would not give him a penny.


What a horrible thing you are " i cant wait to hear keeny has been sacked " what chance does any manager have with cretins like you


I still dont understand why dalglish was given the job permanently. He was brought in to steady the ship, not win trophies. Shud have appointed someone like Juergen Klopp instead. Wont be surprised if he is shown the door by henry if we dont get top4.
Indian Buzzer


Clearly another non LFC supporter, we dont need your kind lad, go back to mancland and stop playing childish games

Tel 1949


Champs League is what most fans want to see.
But i do beleive KK has wasted a vast amount of money on average players.
Overpriced British "talent" isn't the way forward.
JamieMK


 

 

15 Jan 2012 08:57:29
I have no rumours although I wish I did or at least something to look forward too. All I have are facts, and the facts are that this Liverpool team are no where near good enough for a league challenge or even a top 4 finish. Yes you can say we are building for the future again after a torrid few seasons under tweedle dum and tweedle doo but I'm sorry £100 million spent on talent you expect a challenge. We sold Torres and Babel yes but the fact is we spent £100 million on players who are valued at that amount so to expect a challenge is not beyond the realms of possibilty. So looking at this talent we bought, Downing is simply not good enough and never was, Liverpool have a habit of buying mediorce players over the years and as for Caroll well where do you start. I read many times on this site that he is 1 for the future, so what in a few years he will actually learn how to control the ball and then maybe pass the ball. Buying English talent is one thing but paying £55 million for 2 players who lets admit weren't exactly knocking back offers from the top clubs in Europe. You can argue that the Caroll transfer was linked to the Torres transfer in terms of what we recieved from him, but he was injured and played the some all of F#$k all when we signed. So inretospect the question should be asked why didn't we wait till the summer anyway since he didn't play. The German national team consistly challenge for major honours and recently Spain, Italy also can be considered heay weights, would Downing or Caroll get into those teams today, no chance! But because there English we're lead to believe they are worth that. Have the English national team done anything since 66' apart from a semi-final in 90' ( In my opinion should of won it) the answer no. I'm not english and personally have nothing against the national team quite the contary I like to watch them because it would be hypocritical to support Liverpool and follow the premership. Henderson I do believe is a good player showing signs of his coming ability. He has pace stamina and can pick out a pace. I'm tired of hearing about our youths, Antoney Le Tallc Pongelle 2 names spring to mind, having youths is one thing turning them into top top players is another. This is not just directed at Liverpool. Chelsea are a disgrace for youths, man utd haven't done much since scholes beckham butt etc etc and city just put them in the chelsea group. Adam I can't really give out about nor can I talk him up, is he gonna lift the league title or get us into the top 4 maybe with some better players around him. Suarez was wrong wrong wrong simple!! Evra is a little scumbag, he accoused Steve Finnan of racial abuse and dismissed, and also I recall a incident at chelsea with a youth team couch which was also dimissed, But there is no defending pinching someones skin and calling a negro and then trying to say we use it in our country. You may well do but pinching someones skin is pretty obvious. When we fail to get into top 4 losing Suarez for 8 matches will prove pivitol. If Roy Hogson had of bought those players and paid that money Liverpool fans would be spitting venom, but because Kenny Dalgish did, nothing is said. Kenny Dalgish was a fantastic player and alltime great not just at Liverpool and a manager at LFC but Blackburn also. These are his signings. I'd love to know the games played or points won ratio between him and Hogson I'd wager there isn't much in it. But I am a realist and all you have to do is look at the facts and the stats, I read on this site about people asking about this player and that player, used to think it was a bit of fun but I'm beginning to realise people are asking more out of hope that these will sign. I support my team I go to as many games as I can I have no children but I bring my 2 nephews I buy them all the gear so I am entilted to air or express my view and it is this this team is not good enough. I hope to be proved wrong I really do. I hope LFC are keeping tabs on Paul Lambert as a manager just one to keep an eye on I think

Owen


You went through all that, and then said Paul Lambert!


Well it is somewhat true!
Maybe KK should trust Comolli with the transfers now!


I said Paul Lambert to keep an eye on as a manager didn't say sign him up.You think we just scout players?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 08:52:20
I don't understand all these rumours about getting in defenders...in my opinion that area of the team and squad is strong enough (hence one of the best defensive records in the league). We absolutely most definitely need a creative midfielder/forward and an out and out goal poacher. I understand some people's frustration regarding the signings made but that won't help us as a team. They need our support! Even average players can play fantastic with confidence! (not saying our signings are average by the way). Our final third antics have hardly been that creative or of a high quality and make Carroll look bad at times. Not the type of crosses he can attack. Wrong shot/pass choice at the wrong time has been a feature of our home draws too but these things can change with confidence alone! So get behind them! Anyone associated with this club should NEVER WALK ALONE!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 08:48:16
bring back woy at least i didnt expect us to win agaist stoke then!!! joke!!!

i know its not are devine right for 3 pts , but the diffrence between us and them lot above is " 1 nil at home against teams like this".

FSG sorry to be knocking on your door so soon!
but no new striker no champions league, and yet another season slips away!!

this is not CL form and without kidding ourselves its mid table at best!
Kenny swallow your pride and drop or replace carroll, downing, and bring in some real quailty!


 

 

15 Jan 2012 08:36:09
LFC vs top4 teams:we don't have a goalscorer like Rooney or van Persie and we don't have City's forward line.We don't have a playmaker like Modric and a winger like Bale.Marius


Your powers of reasoning are truly astounding! We dont have thos eplayers because they play for the other teams !!

have you tried entering mastermind, you never know you may get your name right, even though you cant remember to put it on here my nameless friend

tel 1949
Tel 1949


 

 

15 Jan 2012 08:35:13
I know that sounds simplistic but the difference between us and the 'top' teams is only seven goals! If we had scored these goals at home we would not only be in the top 4 we would actually be top! Work it out - Actual: MC 48 MU 48 Liverpool 35
7 extra goals: Liverpool 49 MC 46 MU 46
We are making progress slowly but surely - Suarez and Carroll will eventually score goals but the midfielders (and defenders) have to do it as well. Fans keeping writing 'keep the faith'. I would rather say 'have faith' because we are actually on the way up.
Dutchmal


Stop living in dream land , seven home draws and carol , downing, adam and henderson playing for liverpool ? think about it . red mick tag


I agree with you dutchmal but im afraid your wasting your time cause alot of "fans" on here already want kenny out and dont want to listen to reasons. They're after blood at any cost and expect liverpool to win the league straight away. The same lot will be calling kenny the king themselves if we beat city and united and make wembley and go forward in the cup with another chance at a cup. Shame on you all you should remember king kenny came back on a SOS when we all wanted him back and dont ever forget what the man went through with hillsbrough. Wanting and expecting liverpool to beat stoke etc is one thing but asking and demanding kenny get sacked is out of order.


Yeah your right! Kenny should have taken us to the end of last season, then a new manager should have been brought in to take over this season. I for one have never thought Kenny would take us where we need to be.

Steve


Am I on the Man United banter page?? get a grip will you all and stop this rubbish now

tel 1949


 

 

15 Jan 2012 08:05:43
On the Morrison issue, I'd just like to back the eds up with there opinion, I have s mate who works in a shop in Manchester ( I know/ how dare he!) anyway he served him and said what a cocky little thing he was


 

 

15 Jan 2012 07:57:30
Shall we start a petition to get Gerrard as our Player Manager?!

Its Stevies Destiny?


Rather have Carra as manager
Kenny2


What then call for stevie ( another anfield legend ) to be sacked as soon as things dont go right.


Carragher as manager, we will be playing hoofball instead of football.


I sincerely hope carra never manages liverpool, wud prefer gerrard, he wud be able to attract the best talent in the game coz he is world famous, carra isnt. Pus i dont wanna see us play hoofball.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

15 Jan 2012 07:51:04
Macca please tell us the name of the inter player we are after. Us lfc fans need cheering up. I don't know why you won't share it with everyone. Even if the signing doesn't go through it would still be good to know which player we are chasing. Your info is much grately appreciated.

Neil


 

 

15 Jan 2012 06:41:43
Message to Ed002 RE: Liverpool supporters being more fickle than others.
I take your point yet think it is completely unproven. If you look at the negative posters on here calling for Kenny's head and whinging that Carroll isnt good enough, the majority of them are either anonymous or are 'new' to this site. There are so many posters happy to come on here after a loss and pretend to be Liverpool fans to get a rise. Personally, I'd love to see each poster registered with a club flag next to their posts so we can tell who is trolling and who is for real. It wouldn't affect the banter - in fact it would make the banter more legitimate. Anyhow, I'm sure you would have done it if you thought it would work but there are a large amount of names I've never seen posted before and anons who scribe here after every loss so, until they hold their clubs colours, I dont believe anyone should accept your claim that LFC are the most fickle of fans. No offense intended.

cozinoz {Ed002's Note - I appreciate that some are fans of other teams and we are able to, and do, filter some of those out. However, a lot are also regular posters who support the players and the manager at other times.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 07:05:38
Mourinho has got to come to Anfield as the next boss. {Ed016's Note - we could never afford his inevitable severance package when he gets bored of winning everything}


Nice one Ed!
But I wouldn't mind if he at least won us something!

PITSILFC


Don't you mean a goal scorer


 

 

15 Jan 2012 04:45:55
hi macca love the site did the player you said will be joining us used to play for Feyenoord cheers Kyle


 

 

15 Jan 2012 04:26:22
Callum McManaman?


 

 

15 Jan 2012 04:20:28
14 Jan 2012 20:12:41
Would you trust Dalglish with more money in the transfer market? I wouldn't, and before you all start jumping down my throat ask yourselves this question.

If Carroll,Downing,Henderson and Adam were sold this January would we miss them.

I think we all know the answer to this.

(22) (11)


xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Look, i understand emotions are running high after another draw at home, but saying things like this is just ridiculous. For starters, Adam has been a good signing so far, and is only getting more creative with his passing, which was immaculate against stoke.
Henderson is getting better every game, and although he's not the best player on the planet right now, which it seems some of you expected, he's coming along nicely and will be a very good player for this club.
As for downing, his problem is confidence, we've seen over the years, as we've seen in glimpses this season that he is a very talented footballer, when the chances he creates start being put away he'll come out of his shell a bit more.
Carroll.... Andy Carroll, well i know we've seen what he can do, but my question lies with the fact that he doesn't look committed, he's obviously talented and had the ability to be a prolific goal scorer, but his heart doesn't look in it, he seems to be trying to milk fouls more than attacking the ball. So hopefully it's a matter of confidence and not petulence, and he can fight through it, and as much as i hate to say it he's running out of time.

Now for all the people slating Kenny. How dare you!
Not because of his history, but because of the job he is actually doing. Yes he was given a bit of money, but that money was not for a single striker to score goals and boost the ego of the fans, it was for 1 simple reason, strengthening the squad and moving forwards. Sorry to break the news to everybody, but this all takes time, it basically works like this; Get your defensive tactics in order, which as you may or may not have noticed, has happened.
Then comes the attacking moves, this takes time, and must be addressed AFTER sorting out your defensive record. From a managers point of view, and even the owners point of view, draws are much more valuable than losses.

To think we should be winning the title at this stage is just not realistic, yes city are on the way to doing it, but although some people have short memories,it has been more than 1 season for them also, and with the massive amounts of cash and willingness to sell their soul for a title, Well they'll get their wish eventually.

When LFC was first established it took time to get things in place and build a winning culture. As much as the last few years have hurt the fans, it's obvious that we have to build that culture again, and you DO NOT build that in a single season, this will take time. It will take effort and above all it will take support.

Kenny will, and in fact already IS setting us in the right direction, to slate somebody for doing something that will last for a generation, not just overnight is ridiculous and we should ALL be happy to see the atrocious decisions of the last few years being turned around.

I'll end by saying that it took a few years to damage the club in the way it has been damaged. So why not give it a few years to be rectified.

Cheers.

Red7.


Post of the year.


Well said red great post.
Carlos79


U need a reality check mate we are playin the best football we have In years and if it hadn't been for the woodwork n man of the matchs for keepers at anfield we would probably be in the title race I rate downing hendo n enrique n suarez but not Adam n caroll but ya can't get em all right y dnt ya go support man city


Have to say very good post,Can't understand the disagree clicks?must be the glory hunters


Totally agree red7 ,at last a patient fan stating the value of patience ,rome wasnt built in a day. remember rome ? redello


Post was quite good, but i did nearly skip the whole of it when you started with Adam has been good. He has been bloody awful, one or two good passes a game does not count as good, at least 50% of his passing finds an opposition player, and as for his tackling every time he goes in for a tackle i think oh another free kick. Should have played Shelvey in his position yesterday. Sorry but Adam is not good enough.


Ok, one of you chaps took that the wrong way, just to clarify; everything under the xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx's was my post, it was a response to what some tit had written (above the xxxxxxxxxx's).

Red7.


 

 

15 Jan 2012 03:46:19
What a load of whining babies! Bring Rafa back Sack Kenny. Where have you guys been the last years. Yes we draw Again at home against Stoke what a surprise drawing with Stoke. Sounds like some of you want the former clowns who ran the club almost into the ground back. It takes time to clear up the mess and rebuild. People throwing around big names we should have bought him and him. Have you ever thought that these players maybe don't want to play for Liverpool in the first place not to mention the wages they ask for. Don't you think Kenny is aware of the problems we are having, and do you really think he would mock the players by adressing it publicly and say for example these players are carp and we are going to replace them this month, simply not Liverpool standards but we are going to splurge alot of cash on some new players and if they are not succesful right away their first few months feel free to call em rubbish.
The season is not over yet. Get behind the team or moan alone! YNWA

ChinUp


Love the club and support Kenny but there is something wrong when you accept mediocrity and lack of passion from the players.

We are LIVERPOOL. Most of the new players are just putting on the red jersey and going out for a kick.

If you play for Liverpool then you had better feel the passion that goes with it. If you don't then get out.

Big Andy Camel just doesn't look interested. Yes it takes time to form a gelling team and confidence will come in time but there has to be a turning point.
We do well against the big boys time and time again. We step up against good opposition and it has been that way since I can remember.
The difference is now we don't have the confidence to attack an opposition side that defends. It's like we don't know what to do. It wont take much to turn it around.
We've seen glimpses of it but can't maintain the mentality needed. We need someone like Hazard, Eriksen or Honda to give us a more pointed attack. It isn't going to happen with Darren Bent or Jermain Defoe

OzredSA


 

 

15 Jan 2012 03:01:20
Saying that we aint buying players is one thing but saying that we dont need to buy players is absolute rubbish ! KK knows that he's got to improve his frontline. I have the impression that whatever the way he deals with our current lack of attacking prowess, it will be a determining point in his current stint at the club.
On a more positive note, Gerrard is looking sharp !


 

 

15 Jan 2012 01:51:56
Everyone needs to stop belittling Carroll. Personally I think the style of play (clear it up to the lone Carroll who has no passing options up top) does not suit him at all. We must attack the wings and whip crosses in and find his head. I'll admit he's missed his fair share of chances but give the lad some time. He has a better scoring record than Nando does in blue.
I despised Lucas when he was younger and now he's one of our best players. Give him time. Trust KK knows what he's doing. We're not seeing results yet but they will come. I think the Eds will agree with me on this.
Lastly, don't go screaming when we don't sign a huge name this month. NESV know good foundations take time (and money). Remember many of our players are still getting acclimated to each other.

Have hope,
AmRed

Thanks Eds


Still getting acclimated toeach other??mm wat planet r u from? It takes 5-6 games to maybe see that happen not 21 games. These r proffessional players. Newcastle have bought loads of new players...they r gelling. Man city the same they r gelling. Arsenal made last minute changes n were atrocious b4 the changes but now r flying. But we r Liverpool so its acceptable to have longer to get used to each other is it? U have no idea. The players are passingg the ball around but cant score because of the lack of bodies in the box which means its a tactical problem. The fault is with the management style of playing. Every time we attack there is only one option in the box and with 4 to 7 defenders its no wonder why Carrol cant score...even though I think he is useless anyway.

S...an angry s now {Ed001's Note - Man City took 3 years to gel, not a few games.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 01:29:46
Frustrating performance again. Sorry my fellow reds without some decent attacking players coming in, we will not qualify for Champs League. All things said and done, its day 15 of the transfer window, and nothing happening on the transfer front. Suarez return still a way off, but by then we may have too much ground to make up. Our performances so far are honestly not good enough or deserving enough of a Champions League place.. There its said, agree or disagree, but reality is what reality is.


Better to let chelsea or arsenal have that 4th place. We dont deserve to be in the champions league, atleast for now. Quality in squad is pretty thin.
Indian Buzzer


I expect all the activity happening right before the transfer window closes. It was indeed a disappointing game vs Stoke and just all those points wasted at home games is pretty frustrating. But I still hope for the best, we can still make that 4th spot.

HK


Reality is that its halfway through the transfer period and halfway through the season, you spoilt brat


N what makes u think things will get better with the squad we have? We r lacking a goalscorer n a playmaker.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

15 Jan 2012 00:57:02
Now that Ravel Morrison has fallen out with Mancs over his wages - we need to pull every trick in the book to sign this lad up
Only we can handle his talent along with his attitude and this will the trigger we need to finally overtake the Mancs and put them back in their place {Ed001's Note - no no no, no one can handle his attitude, he will be a wasted talent that could have had everything but ends up playing at being a gangster.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 00:50:18
if we do sign zaha this window it won,t be before the semis of the carling cup and the price will be more like 4m not 10m hes maybe good but hes playing in the championship athough he did have a great game against united our best bet would be to wait til summer to offload players and bring in better players only signing this window will be granero i reckon plenty of speculation and i reckon his agent will try and do buisness for about 6m as kenny needs another midfielder who can shoot and pass from distance ideally liverpool need a rm i.e junior hoilett hes avalible for next to nothing about 4m as hes outta contract in the summer and he will bring balance to the team next week against bolton we just need to attack attack attack and get behind the team and manager and with a wee bitta luck we should get a good victory


 

 

15 Jan 2012 00:37:05
to be honest, I really don't care about todays result. I'll take a point for all the games we've had recently and to come.

I just want to focus on getting the result against city and getting to wembley, and then winning some silverware.

Mr Controversy


 

 

15 Jan 2012 00:26:53
Eds and reds, haven't we got some great lads with pace in the youth teams that could fill our requirements on the right and up front? No body can be worst than poor old dirk at the minute. I thought suso and sterling etc would be ready by now from what everyone was raving about last year/ 18 months, or haven't we really got anyone who could make a difference.Anyone with pace would add a lot, especially with the good football we are playing! I would rather bring the youngsters on for the rest of the season and forget about the worry of fourth for another year and make sure we win a trophy. (any news of the youngsters progression to the first team would be appreciated).

Bentam {Ed001's Note - none of the youngsters are really at the level required, not yet anyway.}


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:51:10
hi eds, iv heard the link of defoe to liverpool several times now. to me it seems a logical move as defoe has no chance of being the number one choice striker at spurs, is getting rustrated on the bench and will want a chance to get into euros. h seems ideal for us as he isnt too old, he has plenty of pace and he can actually finish. have you heard any news of this move? and other than the defoe move which are the most likely 3 transfers that we will complete this month?

thanks, RYANTHERED {Ed001's Note - apart from the fact that he is injury prone and not actually very good, he got homesick for London while living in Portsmouth!}


 

 

14 Jan 2012 22:53:48
Hey ed,not a rumour or anything but what do u think of young mclean that plays on the left for sunderland....im irish and probably a bit biased but i think he has potential to be a quality player!
From what i have seen of him he looks to have a great left foot with good delivery...he tracks back and helps out the left back,he takes on the right back every chance he gets and hes big and fairly good in the air!
Now i know hes only played a few games for sunderland but i think these are the types of players that may come cheap enough that we should be taking a risk on because there is less pressure on them!
Great site ed too!

Quinn {Ed001's Note - he doesn't look to have all that much quality to me, maybe he is just not settled in, but he looks just another grafter like Doyle and Long but no real quality to go with it, just like Doyle and Long. I have not seen anything in him that would suggest he is any better than Sterling, for instance.}


Downing is the only winger we have, that is still our problem. I would buy 2 young wingers and a pacy CF this window. I really hope we try for Albrighton on the right. Maybe Hoilett for the left to pressure Downing. CF I would go for Loic Remy who can also play right.

Back to 4-4-1-1 with 2 genuine wingers. Stevie G and a hardworking CM next to him. Stevie, Adam and Hendo together in CM is overkill.

Chuck Norris


 

 

14 Jan 2012 20:57:02
Hey Ed001 whats your opinion on the whole kid from Inter thing, clearly we need a striker but signing a 19 year old on loan to solve the goal scoring problem is risky and i'd imagine quite demanding on a 19 year old ?

Also why not just try out Adam Morgan rather than sign someone elses prospect on loan especially if it does not have a to buy option in the deal ?

Cheers & Great site {Ed001's Note - Morgan doesn't look ready for first team football for me, I would say Adorjan is the closest striker to first team football in my opinion. I have no idea what is going on with the Inter forward, but I am sure he must be ready for the first team or we wouldn't be showing interest. A loan is probably a good thing right now, just to give Morgan et al another few months to be ready for the first team.}


 

 

15 Jan 2012 00:01:31
tony pulis said after the game when we seen liverpools team sheet and seen they going to play with two attacking wing backs we just made some adjustment and that seen us through..... my point is where is our plan b? pulis seen the team sheet and changed so why cant kenny change formation when nothing is going the way he wants to. we are so predictable to play against our attacking play is easy to defend.. couldnt we have changed second half and attacked through the middle more ?


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:53:57
Our best position is defence wrre we havent really rebuilt you would think that be wer wev soent 57 m or 45m to say sndy carrol downing hendo n adam came to £80m thats cristano ronaldo thats crazy. Hendo is comin onto a gane but he passes backwards. Sell glen johnson hes garbage martin kellys immense. Loan carrol out to wimbeldon or summin hed struggle to get a game there so maybe tamworth or something.... Dalglish has not got a clue. The owners net spend is around £50 million since they took over im sorry but we needed at least 100 m to invest not selling to partially finance. I believe commoli is a part to play in these useless signing for a start it was him that used his "stats" knowledge for downing, carrol how was that ever going to work giant striker in a passing team mmmm... Panic buy or what? If your not going to take a gd striker n panic keep torres n sel in summer somethin just not what he did to call carrol a more expensive player than suarez is an abberation


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:44:43
Nesv said 4th bare minimum.Look at their redsox history.passionate,but winning business men.Theyll be watching closely.


Oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh!!


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:43:11
Altight, after today it is clear we need a goalscorer, if you could pick a realistic signing who would it be?


Kevin Keegan?

Sir Alex x


Soldado or defoe on loan.
skurks


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:40:34
No one wants to complain,but look at games weve drawn,goals scored!Very worrying KK says we prob wont and dont need anyone.Lets pray its a smokescreen,cos if he really believes that!!??!!!!


Don't worry, it is a smokescreen, Emile Heskey to the rescue!

Sir Alex x


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:36:52
Just watching Roy Hodgson on MoTD has made me feel a little bit better. I am glad we have Kenny in charge instead that face rubbing, pathetic excuse giving, incompetent idiot.

Also, I like that Drenthe and I really do think Bent could do a job for us at the right price.

FT


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:32:00
Each time I see Roy hodgeson rub his face on match of the day, the happier I am he's gone
Craig


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:30:58
Time to go kenny,its not good enough. We should have had a striker in the first week in january. Five at the back against stoke,unbelievable.(rdred)


NOOOOOOO, keep King Kenny, we love him!

Sir Alex x


3 at the back mate


3 slow lumbering CD's in the team mate. 5 at the back (although Johnson did seem to be in CM most of the game), Carra was almost playing as a sweeper! Lol

Chuck Norris


Would not say Coates was lumbering, thought he had his best outing in a red shirt. Johnson only came in to the middle, because those that were there were not at the races. Henderson started brightly but faded, Adams had 2 good passes all game and no ability break up counter attacks, and even Stevie looked ordinary. There was no creativity, no Alonso or McAllister type who could thread a ball through.


 

 

14 Jan 2012 23:21:01
So, to all the fans labelling Kenny a 'disgrace' and calling for Rafa back, I ask you this were you not the ones who screamed for his head with your monotonous posts just two years ago ? After a poor result the claws come out with you 'fans'. Six new players cannot simply sign for a club and gel immediately, it takes time and requires patience, something in short supply on this site. And then if Liverpool win you feel justified to celebrate our success with us ? No. The great Bill Shankley once said: 'I you can't support us when we lose or draw don't bother supporting us when we win.' You can criticise my apparent blind faith if you won't, but let me tell you, I'm sure Liverpool and Kenny wished there were far more 'blind faith' supporters than you whiney, bitchey lot.
Y.N.W.A Kenny Y.N.W.A Andy
Ernest Redding


Yes, you are a whiney and bitchey lot. Good observation Ernest Redding!

Know your place whiney/bitchey LFC fans...mid-table!

Sir Alex x


Excellent comment

5times*****


Kenny is no disgrace, but for some reason tactically got it wrong yesterday. People can still be fans even if they are whinging, this shows they have feelings for the club. I was bloody annoyed that we went so defensive at home, and annoyed at some of the individual displays on offer. Get real we were average at best yesterday and for this club average does not cut it.


 

 

 
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