Liverpool Banter Archive April 15 2012

 

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15 Apr 2012 23:47:43
Good news guys, inside news Luis Suárez has confirmed he has no intention of leaving Liverpool he is about to sign new long-term contract.

Tiger Jay YNWA

A new money term contract with like one year extra, same sort of thing we kept doing with Torres like 2-3 times no biggy.

It is a biggy when it throws millions onto the potential transfer fee (as it did Torres).

DaveyBootle

 

 

15 Apr 2012 23:28:00
First of all, to those claiming that the '05 CL win had nothing to do with rafa because "it was houllier's squad" are deluded. If that was the case why didn't houllier win the CL? Houllier's team was poor, it was thanks to rafa's, frankly amazing, tactical abilities we got to the final.
So please don't slate rafa. Regardless of his last season, he will be a liverpool legend.

But that doesn't mean we should have him back. This is a new era at Liverpool Football Club - one without rafa. Rafa had some really great and some really poor signings. Had he been in kenny's position during our recent, relatively big transfer windows, who knows who'd have signed good or bad (or even average). And there's no point speculating either, as you are simply waisting your time.

Eds are we looking at Scott Sinclair as a possible creative player/winger. I think he's great. {Ed003's Note - Swansea games have been watched,I think he had a good/average start to the season but nothing special in my eyes}

Djibril Cisse, Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso

Rafa bought these three players to help him win the Champions league.

Rafa bought in Xabi Alonso and Garcia. At that time in history we had a very weak center midfield and he fixed it.

Inspired by the manager.

Houllier had no chance in hell of winning anything. Rafa changed that team with three signings.

Then we had a few other problems in midfield. The left side was weak and the right side was weak. In the end we put John Arne Risse on the left side and this new boy called Garrard on the Right side. That became our champions league team.

We bought in someone to play at lbk and Carra was converted to play as a CBK, Steve Finnan and we already has Hypia and Jerzy Dudek

Jerzy Dudek; 3-Steve Finnan, 4-Sami Hyypia, 23-Jamie Carragher, 28-Stephen Warnock;

6-John Arne Riise, 8-Steven Gerrard, 16-Dietmar Hamann, 25-Igor Biscan, 10-Luis Garcia;

5-Milan Baros

Ashely Williams - CBK seems to be good cbk.

Who cares anyway.
Its history, 8 years ago.
Try supporting the current manager in the same way that you worship at the Rafa altar!.

Cisse was signed by Houlier. Gerrard was our star player loooong before '05. Carra wasn't 'converted', he was played out of his chosen possition until 'converted' to a CB. Poor

 

 

15 Apr 2012 22:57:17
Justice for the 96.

Matthew...

 

 

15 Apr 2012 22:44:47
just like to say as BLUERAY said the vast majority of chelsea fans observed the minute silence today , dont make the mistake of thinking different , 99.9 per cent of all fans from every club are descent people , we should not hate people for what no reason , dont fall into that trap , we are better than that...............lfc

Didn't sound like the vast majority observed the minute silence.

Completely agree - there are person fans in every club. Chelsea came out and apologised straight away for the behavior of a small minority of their crowd as they should. Lets not drag this out as an issue....lets just hammer the living daylights out of their goal in the cup final and publicly dedicate the performance to the 96.

cozinoz

 

 

15 Apr 2012 22:35:56
{Ed022's note - brand new player profile on Edinson Cavani. In my opinion, this will be the transfer saga of the summer and the talk of all media outlets. www.player-profiles.co.uk - thanks all.}

No chance.

Square tomato

 

 

15 Apr 2012 22:32:29
LFC Team Next Year:

Reina (Doni)
Johnson (Kelly)
Skrtel (Carra)
Agger (Coates)
Enrique (Cissokho)
Lucas (M'Vila)
Gerrard (Gargano)
Marin (G. Sigurddson)
G. Ramirez (Tello)
Suarez (Munian)
Huntelaar (Llorente)

Are you serious? Don't think i've laughed so hard at delusion in all my life

10 new players?

Martin

Never gonna happen

Your FIFA 13 Liverpool team?

Cuchulainn's Hounds

Gargano who plays for napoli the Defensive Midfielder? and why would M'Vila move to only be a bench player? or Llorente for that matter?

Have to admit, great team.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 22:24:48
All clubs have idiotic fans (even us). Unfortunately I think this will always be the case. But if this were our fans that did this today. You can guarantee it would be top billing on SSN.

The FA said that they wanted to stamp out the hateful chanting from all clubs fans. Lets see what they do about this, probably nothing.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Agree totally Blair. Just after watchin ITN sports news and they mentioned controversial incidents from todays football but no mention of it. Its sad really. I hope this doesn't overshadow what should be a day of remembrance to the 96 but at the same time it shouldn't be ignored. They shouldn't and won't be forgotten and should never ever be disrespected. That could be any fan of any club at any match but for it to be a semi on their anniversary makes it all the more shameful. I just hope our fans keep it together come the final and don't bow down to the level of those scumbags. I have no doubt thats a Chelsea minority, altho looking at the Chelsea fans websites about 50% are like "so what". They should realise how lucky they are to be alive tonight.

TAYPOT

Been in the house all day TAYPOT mate (got the flu). And not once did SSN mention our memorial service, for our 96. Even after what happened with the Chelsea fans, still no mention. They would rather talk about Neil Lennon's rant about the ref on twitter. SSN are the standard bearers on all what's wrong with biased sports journalism and the gutter press.

They might have forgot about them but we never will.

Justice for the 96

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 22:17:40
Chelsea fan here in peace. I know it makes little difference with what does goons ,wouldn't call them chelsea fans or football fans much less humans did today ,but I think I wouldn't be at rest if I don't come ​on here to apologise to all liverpool fans and the family and friends affected. There is no place for an act like that. May the 96 rest in peace and may God bless the families and friends. Again I'm really sorry and I can safely say not all chelsea fans should be condemned and Un behalf of all Chelsea fans on this site and the lots that are innocent we are really sorry. Goodluck to u guys . -BLUERAY-

Fair play to you, we all have person so-called fans. Got a mate who is a Chelsea fan, he is a good lad and I'm sure when I see him this week he will express the same sentiments.

The 96 fans will never be forgotten.

YNWA Evo

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:47:09
Liverpool should try to sign a goal scorer 1 player proven in Portugal and Spain is at Madrid raul falcon sorry spelling Wat do u lot fink world class can see us getting him giving them other player s in exchange as well as cash ie maxi aqua and another be worth it plus joe cole bagged his 9 th tonight money going up on selling him lol

Aqua is gone, maxi wont go back, cole don't see it happening. Falcao cost them around 40m euros.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:28:19
If reina does leave (unlikely I no) I think we should look at Stegen from borussia monchengladbach looks a very good young keaper I wonder if there is any interest?

Square tomato

15 million for a young keeper. The only way I'd do it is buy him now and loan him back.

BthekingB

Then reina will defiantly leave as he will feel we dont want him and would rather go now.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:26:27
I just wanted to say well done to Liverpool on reaching cup final and also well done on the dignified way you have remembered the Hillsborough victims, unlike Chelsea fans today who showed no dignity.
Hope Liverpool win FA cup in their memory and it will be good to hear YNWA ring out round Wembley,
Liverpool - Celtic fans share special bond Timalloy

Thank you. Celtic are a club with real class and a club that every Liverpool supporter has great respect for

Y.n.w.a

Peter

Thanks Timalloy....appreciated.
ANFIELDPETE

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:09:15
Does ofcom deal with televised matches if so every fan offended by what they heard should complain! It's how they got Suarez done against Fulham!

Jman

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:08:36
I stood on those terraces at Sheffield Wednesday in the eighties watching United not knowing what a horrific tragedy would unfold only a short time later. I went to watch football innocently just like they did but I went home. I watched on the television on that day 23 years ago as the horror unfolded. May the 96 rest in peace and on this day my thoughts are always with the families and hope there is justice.

JFT96

Red Man

Much appreciated - for many of us older fans, we know that this could have happened anywhere to any clubs fans. Unfortunately some people still believe the lies pedalled at the time about Liverpool fans as Ive seen on so many forums recently.
Its reassuring to see some of the Chelsea fans coming on here to apologise. Each club has its own share of bigots and we shouldnt tar the vast majority of their fans by the actions of the few.
Scousehouse
YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:06:07
Eds, sorry the next question but have you any idea what time the final will be played. I've searched the web but can't seem to find it. Cheers and keep up the good work.
Andy the red {Ed001's Note - I would expect 3pm as that is traditional.}

5:15pm its on lfc.tv

I believe it's a 5.15pm ko. Please make all aware of this. Thanks

dd

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:53:08
Ashely Young Cheats alot. Why don't the Refs pick up on him. they must notice the way he goes down like a little boy. Does it make a difference that he does it at Old Trafford. He wouldn't get these decisions away from man utd game. Poor Referring, plain cheating and how can anyone want this type of thing in the game.

Is it a part of the game? should footballers think. We have Old Trafford Capacity is 75,811 so that means we get everything going in our direction.

The ref will cave in because of the size of the stadium. Man utd don't have the best team, they can lose away from home. So its stadium that feeds into these decisions.

Well thats fine then - if its `part of the game` why does everyone moan about suarez - ashley young is getting away with it too many time
- typical

Ashley young has gotten away with this far too often...he has done it for years.

i remember when he was at villa a commentator said he should advertise on the bottom of his boots with the amount of times he dives.

ToonFan

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:52:58
You can pay for school but you can't buy class... When we face those disgusting boos/blues in the final, I ask that every red shouts their lungs out for the 96
JFT96
YNWA
NextGenRed

Just bear in mind what Blair and lfc have already posted on here though. Not all fans can be held accountable, only the minority prize idiots that ruin it for the rest of their club. Disgusting.

Cuchulainn's Hounds

It was disgraceful what some chelsea fans did......but please do not insult the majority for the acts of a minority

ToonFan

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:45:26
Eds, any interest from Liverpool in georginio wijnaldum from PSV? {Ed001's Note - there has been in the past, yes, and we are supposedly keeping tabs on his progress since then.}

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:42:01
Well, Chelsea have issued an apology on behalf of some of their fans who were chanting...But, then again, those fans should have shown respect...Bless the 96 and also Morosini...

YNWA
Red PG

An apology to all lfc fan's and to the 96 and there families for the minority of our fan's today for being idiots, sorry im sure from 99 per cent of chelsea fan's, respect to you all at LFC.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:40:58
Eds, Macca, lads and lasses,
There's an interesting article in The Sunday Telegraph today (I got the link off the BBC before anyone asks) about how Ian Ayre is in awe of Kenny Dalglish, and that the club needs to find somebody who is "capable of standing toe to toe" with Kenny.
Would this be accurate ed ?
I could see why someone like David Dein coming in would be useful in that regard.
All the very best for the Hillsborough Families.
Shocking about the Chelsea fans today.
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - I think this one would be better for Macca to answer to be honest.}

Whats wrong with the telegraph?

The ToryGraph !

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:39:21
Chelsea won by 5 goals. Wow. Do you think Liverpool will see that as maybe well we should of gotten Tottenham instead. Before the game, everyone wanted chelsea becuase they play slower football and it might of worked

Had tottenham won we would of said "oh should we have gotten chelsea" etc.

Chelsea won by THREE goals and another gift from a referee. However that was today and means nothing on 5th May. Anything can happen before then. By the way, a couple of points for you - the word is 'because', the expression is 'might HAVE worked', and finally, you forgot to sign you name (if you know what it is!).
Dutchmal

I wanted Chelsea to win because we've beaten them in cup competition before and have won our last 4 games against them. They'll be really up for it and are a quality side so it should be a good match but I certainly think we can beat Chelsea

Red Ollie

Chelsea were terrible in the first half. If we get a couple of goals in the first half we're always more dominant in the second [in the cups anyway] so we'll hopefully go on to win.

BthekingB

Spurs were unlucky.
2nd goal should never have stood, and Cech should have been red carded.
These 2 incidents changed the game.

In one of the newest and most impressive stadiums, and in front of 85000 Martin Atkinson *nd his team truly 'fluffed their lines'.

I hoped we got chelsea, we can't play against spurs in the last 2-3 seasons. we beat chelsea a lot so that would be a better chance for us. and we would have the psychological advantage

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:39:11
Yes it was horrendous what the fans were doing during the Semi, innexcusable. However you lot aren't always respectful are you? (The Oldam game). Anyway R.I.P to the 96 and Morosini.

Ben {Ed001's Note - Ben that has already been dealt with, perhaps if you bothered to find out you would have learnt that all that was shouted out was that he was called a Manc. But that doesn't make as good news as lying about it being racist abuse does it?}

Nice Ed, nice.

Lee YNWA

Your a disgrace Ben. Good on ya ed! LY

Well said ed. Its one thing calling a player a Manc but its something totally different disrespecting the memory of 96 people that went to a match and never made it home. Those low-life scumbags that made all the noise and came out with those vile chants should remember that those 96 were in the same situation as they were today, supporting their team, and were innocent victims. They should feel lucky to be able to go home or go for a few pints to celebrate their win. Our 96 never had that "luxury". Shameful. And I won't paint all Chelsea fans with the same brush. What that group of fans did was scummy.

YNWA
JFT96 and RIP Morosini

TAYPOT

The guy who was arrested for supposedly abusing Adeyemi was cleared of all charges, yet the media persisted in vilifying LFC and all connected with it - meanwhile Man Utd had a fan convicted of actually abusing a player and Glen Johnson was racially abused at the Etihad. But of course all this was swept under the carpet and ignored as dirty Johnny Foreigner Suarez and his evil racist manager King Kenny were on a crusade against all that was good in the world.

Martin

Get your facts right Ben Oldham game was a not Guilty for the lad=cleared.Dont believe all you read

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:06:54
A Manchester United fan here coming in peace to give my condolances to the 96 liverpool fans who lost their lives so many years ago today, and to wish the best to their family and friends. I feel that football is a family beyond the confides of our clubs and in sad and tradgic times we all pull together as one.

Justice for the 96.

Shappy

Respect.

AG

Most mature fan of the manc's. Good man you are sir
AnfieldUSA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:04:15
Another disgraceful weekend for referees, FA and some person fans, but a pretty good one for us. I have a feeling that goal line tech, video, infrared, microchips, bugs, wiretaps and crystal balls will all be implemented next year. The Prem is turning into a real joke and it is so sad I can't even laugh it off anymore. Surely, this has got to be the absolute worst season of the Prem to date. I always considered myself a football fan first and a Liverpool fan second, but I have to say that if it weren't for LFC I wouldn't watch it anymore. Surely, something has to happen to fix this mess. I'm not looking to start anything with anyone; I just feel that when the league looks bent no-one wins.

Canadian Fan

Lack of goal-line tech and absurd penalty awards to Man Utd are making a mockery of the league.

The people running the game need to get their fingers out.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:03:52
Ashley Williams - Swansea - CBK

now he seems to be great and all of Swansea play goes through him. His pass rate is very good, he is also able to pass the ball forward. So would a player like him fit into our team. I personally like the way he plays it. He also wins alot of headers and likes to get higher up the pitch when swansea play higher up the pitch.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 21:03:47
does anyone know what time the final is is it gonna be a late one like last year

5.15 PM

Hans

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:37:42
Remembering the lost of Hillsborough on this sad day. Justice must be done...green jhedi Celtic. YNWA.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:35:58
Plastic have officially replaced Man U my most hated team today. We will see u at Wembley on May 5. Its just not 11 VS 11 its 11 plastic covers VS the whole red sea. Wait 4 the red Tsunami. And don't forget to bring that whinging lady sidekick bitch of yours.

And I wonder why media makes an awful lot for simple handshake incident and fans shouting something else against an oldham player and nothing for this pathetic behavior.

AJ

Trust me mate, I live down in London and I have hated Chelsea more than Utd for the last decade nearly. I've even had to sit in the Chelsea end at a game before as I couldn't get another ticket and the chants they were singing were sickening. Man Utd fans don't do that.

Ash

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:11:43
If there is a case for the FA to tackle racist fans, should it not also extend to those who (on mass) mock the dead. To the individuals concerned, I say to you we may live on the same island but you're brothers of mine.

dd

If 2 Chelsea fans threw bananas at black players the club would face disciplinary action and rightly so. From what i see on Chelsea fan sites there were hundreds chanting today but they won't hear a word from the FA. So wrong.

TAYPOT

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:08:15
Chelsea fans are a disgrace, didn't hear them all game but couldn't be quite for the minute's silence...

Any how on to the final, i am not worried about them, they were out classed first half but got a great goal through Drogba... that second goal was a disgrace...

but we have stuffed them twice this season, if we keep Mata quiet we will be fine, they play so predictable and boring, i'm not going to get into any arguments with there fans, they don't deserve it, i just can not wait until May 5th!

G BOX

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:05:21
Cant wait to take on Chelsea. Their fans, all be it a minortiy disgraced their club today. It will make all the pain of the league form this season worth it, if we can beat them after they get batteredby Barca and miss out on the top 4. Oh and it would be nice to get one over a certain Spaniard.. El Pistolero

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:04:19
Chelsea fans are a disgrace, should be totally ashamed. Also noticed half their players had taken their black arm bands off,

and for anyone who wants the Judas TORRES back then they should be ashamed as he wasnt wearing a black armband either.

Lets see how many London football reporters, report on this tomorrow, not many I bet.

Shocking

Justice for the 96

Evered

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:03:18
Bring on Chelsea!!!!!!!!!

I wanted Tottenham Hotspur

I have a friend who loves to gamble and he kept going on about the pitch when lfc where playing. he said the pitch is too slow. The passing is down to the grass being too long. The pitch just isn't right.

Then he went on about Chelsea being a simple passing team who cross in the ball after a few simple balls.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:01:34
I am happy we have Chelsea. Would love our boys to teach them some lesson.

Tekneek

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:57:08
Makes the final even better! Always hated Chelsea but after the crap they where singin during the minute silence I absolutely despise them,no class what so ever from owner to the fans.get the flags out an show them proper fans!!
Kp

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:56:20
Skrtel has shown what is needed by a Liverpool captain, he is the first one to congratulate anyone who scores he is the first one there when a player is being cautioned by the ref, he shows aggression in defence and inspires the others, like gerrard many moons ago. Make him full time captain.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:30:45
THIS HAS BECOME A PERSONAL AFFAIR BETWEEN LIVERPOOL AND CHELSEA
ON THE 5th may we will see
and the final but personally i think the FA hould do omething about it

Lets be honest, it was always personal, its the final we all wanted regardless of the idiots at Wembley, Drogba v Carra, it could get messy

SHED END

Carra won't be playing lad.

Martin

I'd be VERY surprised if Carra starts for the Final. Enrique missing the Semi will kick him up the rear and improve his game in time for the Final. I have undying faith in Skrtel & Agger to keep Drogba quiet.

Stone YNWA.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 20:18:36
JFT96 They travelled to watch a game it ended up being thier last it saddend us as a club and is the biggest part of our past we will never forget the 96 so i say lets win this final and dedicate it to this JFT 96 DaveLFC

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:53:44
Its now personal between us and chelsea for the final..
Its now for those 96 plus 1 that they booed today..
I hope dear god we aboslutly hammer them..
How can they sing like that when silence was to be kept..

Also got to say classy from united fans..I still don't like u lot but have respect for way you guys behaved today and maintained silence..
Thanks..
Red indian

It's not like we'll need ammunition .. But I'm sure King Kenny will use it to our advantage.

Melbourne, if you're about - thoughts?

Lee YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:49:17
Alls I'm saying iS the tottenham supporters are worse for getting off early than the evertonians. Bring on chelsea.

Delboy

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:46:05
It's a Funny old Game 6 months ago Spurs were according to The Media except for Barcelona playing the best football out there!!
6 months later might not even qualify for the Champions League and no trophies!

God Bless Ode Cheeky no VAT wideboy Deputy Dog Harry!

Lyndon

Kenny dalglish 2011-2012, 2 finals, 1 victory so far.
this during a run of poor form.

harry redknapp 2011-2012, a run of poor form equal to kenny's BUT WITH HIS STRONGEST 11.
his whole managerial career, 2 finals, 1 victory so far.

harry wil probably get to manage england despite his tactics being responsible for the 5-1 defeat when he took van der vaart out of midfield and allowed his team to get over run.

kenny has had a couple of blips in his 1st season back but wins a cup semi final with his substitutions at the right time and may well add to the trophy cabinet again!

for those that wish for a different manager, be careful what you wish for because even england's best ain't good enough.

S.P

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:44:51
Can people now stop posting about Torres coming back, the man hasn't even got the decency to wear a black armband in respect of the Hillsborough anniversary. Classless.

Seriously??

Lee YNWA

You cannot be serious. Torres can do whatever he wants...

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:42:03
Im all for banter lads, but apologies on behalf of the minority at wembley, ripping you about Carrol or you form and im in all day but booing a minutes silence has got no place in it for me and 99% of us

SHED END

Well said Shen there is no place for that barbarism in football.

Cork Red Boi

Don't think they were ripping Liverpools form Shed.. They should be banned from every stadium for the rest of their lives.

Fair play to the Utd and Villa lot. Thank you.

Lee YNWA

The mindless minorities turn up everywhere unfortunately.
kidmillions

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:38:02
See you in the final classless Chelsea fans

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:33:59
I have always hated the view held in many quarters that footballers should be regarded as role models to young people.Personally I have always held the opinion that,apart from their football ability,that I could not think of any worse role models for my children.

Stand up Brad Jones,a perfect role model for anyone,a proud man who has been through the worst hell any parent can contemplate,such dignity and such respect to his young son.Brad,I for one would be honoured if my children looked to you as a role model and am proud to see you playing for my beloved team.

Derek

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:33:14
I wonder is Torres happy to play for those chelsea fans.

That suggests someone on here might give a flying f@@@ what the Sulk thinks. I don't.
ND

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:32:56
JFT96 Never forgotten.

G.A.G.U.S

We respect that mate. United showed class today and chelsea have shown what they are.

Danny

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:22:03
Disgraceful fans booing the minutes silence. They were boing 97 innocent souls. 96 fans and the football player who died yesterday. Clueless/ scummy fans.

Corkpoolred

Looks like it's a Liverpool Vs Chelsea final, after what happened during the minutes silence I hope we thrash them, absolutely disgusting behaviour. I know it's not all Chelsea fans, but lets face it, they've disgraced their club today.

JFT96, YNWA.

Rugby Parker

Players were also offered opportunity to show their respect by wearing black armbands. Several appear to have declined! Very, very sad if true.

The Bell Boy

The chelsea 'fans' have done Kenny's team talk for him........

JRG

That was absolutely sick

@Corkpoolred

Chelsea fans were disgracefully singing during the silence, however, it was the Spurs fans booing the Chelsea fans after the minute silence.

Stone YNWA.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:06:39
Hello guys.just want to say, i watched my team lose the semi final of the scottish cup today,and was feeling gutted about the way we lost it.cheated in fact.then i watched a couple of the hillsborough memorial programmes on ltv,and it made me realise what a diddy i am, moaning about losing a game.very humbling,and god bless all the liverpool family who were affected by the tradegy.god bless you all.artybhoy

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:01:53
Want Suarez to be class then put class around him

 

 

15 Apr 2012 19:00:34
It was Chelsea fans singing you killed your own fans, murderers and we are Chelsea. My mates a Chelsea fan at the game and he text me about it. JFT96 YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:53:50
As soon as I saw "United take early lead through penalty" I knew it would be soft but that was pure hilarious. What Young as doing was putting his leg out to make contact ( which is happening to often these day) but the villa defender moved out the way and it made young look an absolute fool and worse of all Tom Daley must be s**tting himself with such competition in an Olympic year. -McMenemy

Seems to remember Welbeck doing something very similar over Christmas.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:51:47
Got say classless by fans in wembely today..sons,fathers were lost atleast respect the 96 human beings..
I would love to have kenny come on TV just now and say about young what fergi said about luis about not being good enough for club..
How can we ever manage to get near ManU when we clearly lack divers and cheats like young...
I know ManU fans you will point to luis but young is in his own class..
Red indian

Its okay you have a world class diver in Suarez and whilst Carrol is a poor finisher his diving is getting better

You'll never get near us, because we're simply bigger and better than you lot.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:45:42
im curious eds, what happens in the final in terms of winners medals (assuming we win) is it just the squad on the day that recieve medals? if so i really hope brad jones is given the reserve keeper position instead of doni so he can get a medal, he deserves it {Ed001's Note - no, it is the player's who were involved who get a medal, even if it is in the earlier rounds. If I remember rightly.}

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:36:00
Apologies Spurs fans..

Twitter Phil McNulty at Wembley BBC Sport Chief Football Writer
"Sad to say some Chelsea fans let themselves and their club down badly during that silence in memory of Hillsborough and Morosini."

Lee YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:32:26
At wembley, would ed o2 like to talk about her teams fans ed 01?
RNred {Ed001's Note - I guarantee she will be disgusted.}

Proved what we already knew, Chelsea have no class......

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:31:52
justice for the 96, never to be forgotten. a sad day. on a brighter note got my wembley tickets ordered today, not much money spending ahead
JFT 96

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:30:28
very very poor from the fans at Wembley.

You could of heard a pin drop at old trafford when they did it. {Ed001's Note - I think that should be pointed out as well, well said, Old Trafford observed it beautifully.}

Say what you like about the mancs lads but they are a real football club with class that those cockney f**ks will never have.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:11:22
It always amazes me, what kind of person would press disagree when people pay their respects to the 96. Sometimes football has to take a back seat and contrary to what Shankley said, life is more important than football.

Evered

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:11:16
them chelsea fans who were singing are an absolute disgrace! Can't even keep silent for 1 bloody minute to remember those who lost there lives. its sickening. This is far greater than football. Justice for the 96

Danny

I started to watch the game ,but so sickened by the fans booing and singing ,in the one minute silence .
I cant watch them sick fans .
What was the chave singing .

Paul ynwa77 RIP 96 GREAT PEOPLE

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:09:35
The only little bit of respect I had for Chelsea is gone. JFT96

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:04:40
Chelsea fans making noises causing the Hillsborough minute silence to be stopped early.

I hope Spurs and Barcelona .... all over the classless chavs. They are a disgrace.

Adam

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:20:03
Who would rather play in the final? Me personally Chelsea think we've got there number this year.
Kp

Spurs, if we lost the final it would be easier to take than losing to chelsea(Torres)

Square tomato

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:18:49
I see they let the scumbag fans into Wembley today. Would love to know which end that was coming from. However nice to hear rest of the crowd boo them aft ref whistle.

ChrisE

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:03:34
does anyone know who's fans were shouting or what ever during the minutes silence at the spurs chelsea game?

G BOX

Did anyone really think the chavs could could keep their mouths shut for one minute. I didn't. Cant hear the scum once the game starts.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

It was some of the Chelsea fans, f###ing classless scum, fair play to the spurs fans for showing a bit of class

It came from the chelsea end, i think it's to do with the fact we played yesterday and they play today, ahead of their champions league semi final. Absolute disgrace.

Apparently it was the Chelsea fans.

Alex

BBC Radio 5 live's chief football correspondent Mike Ingham at Wembley: "During yesterday's minute's silence you could have heard a pin drop. During this minute's silence... well, the minute's silence didn't last a minute. It had to be abbreviated. The noise came from the Chelsea end, it has to be said. They just couldn't keep quiet

Looked to me like Chelsea booed then spurs responded to them.

Mate of mine who's up there text me saying the Chelsea lot wouldn't shut up and the Spurs fans booed them for it.

davethebutcher

The radio said Chelsea, not a proud moment for a club with no class

I want them in the final so we can rub that in there faces

Sweet corn

Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer
"Sad to say some Chelsea fans let themselves and their club down badly during that silence in memory of Hillsborough and Morosini."

John

Chelsea

Lee YNWA

Missed the beginning. Absolutely disgraceful. Nothing will be done though, londoners are too self obsessed to care about 96 northerners.
They have let themselves down badly, Chelsea and spurs fans have become a little more hated by the rest of the footballing world an Liverpool and everton fans have probably become a little bit more respected. As it should be.

MIKEY {Ed001's Note - it wasn't the Spurs fans.}

And sorry pressed disagree by mistake.

MIKEY

I hear it was the chelsea "fans" disgusting. I think some sort of action should be taken against them, no fans chelsea fans allowed at the final IF they make it would be appropriate.

Chelsea fans scum bags toon fan

Sorry my mistake, I should of known it was the chavs.

MIKEY

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:03:27
Poor show from wembly in the minute silence
Invernesian

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:03:15
Minutes silence not fully observed at wembley(rdred)

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:03:06
The minute's "silence" at Wembley just now was an absolute disgrace.......Cockney cnuts!!
ANFIELDPETE

They're not cockneys mate. It appeared to be the Chelsea supporters with Spurs fans booing and giving them the vinegar strokes. I may be wrong. No class with their free flag hand-outs.

DaveyBootle

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:02:57
Absolutely disgusted by some of the Chelsea/Spurs fans who failed to observe the minute's silence in remembrance of the 96. You are a disgrace not only to your clubs but football in general.

Hans

It was coming from the Chelsea end. Typical Chelsea supporters. Absolutely no class. Dan

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:02:31
Wow. Did I just hear some people boo in chelsea vs spurs semi after the minute of silence? Disgraceful.

Tekneek

To be fair, the boos were aimed at the small minority of Chelsea fans that ruined the one minute silence. The TV muted the terrible noise out of respect. It's a shame.

I think the boo's after the whistle was aimed at the idiot's who were being a holes during the minute

G BOX

They was booing the hecklers during the minutes silence.

Square tomato

I think it was the spurs fans booing the Chelsea fans for chanting murderers during the minute silence, some people are scum

The booing at the end of the minutes silence was aimed at the so called fans who sang and cheered during this period.

Carryduff Red

Were they booing the people who were shouting through the min silence im not sure.
k-h

I think they were booing the people who didn't observe the silence?

I'm hoping the booing was for the few pathetic parasites who couldn't observe the minutes silence.

Simsimo

I think the Spurs fans let the Chelsea supporters know that they were out of order.

DaveyBootle

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:02:29
Gone but never forgotten. Justice For The 96.

an american red

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:02:22
Classy those Chelsea and Spurs fans....

Lee YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 18:02:20
absolute disgusting to hear spurs and chelsea fans booing and jeering through the minuets silence.

what goes around comes around

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:50:56
This is an absolute disgrace to the game of football;how can that blatant penalty stand or is it because it was manutd.I have never liked manutd and will continue to be.

What did the penalty change exaktly, wasent like Villa had the game til it happend. Lets focus on whats really mathers and stop being bitter, YNWA LFC!

The Rob

The Rob
The point is not what the penalty will change but it is not acceptable. We knew Villa had no chance ( no disrespect) but still there shouldn't be no favoring. If ts like that then why to play just award the cup to them . It is not just us being bitter but something has to be done , i mean they fall where ever in the penalty box under whatever circumstances and they get a penalty and the rest have to fight for it . It is not just us particularly but almost every manager facing them would say so.

AJI

I have to agree with you, but theres factors like the pressure on toilet with 75,000 screaming. And red nose pointing fingers..
I guess my point is that there is no luck, you make your own luck. The players most play thrue every thing (sendings off, peneltys etc) and the fans should focus on driving them on (as at wembley), and scream for the dessicions when Suarez wavs for handballs for exempel.
If a ref sees that a team plays with out any flow and fall over instead of going on ball 100%, and the fans sit quiet..
In the head of a ref in a 50/50 the scream from the fans might make alot of diffrence.

So lets make our own luck out there, and force the dessicions a bit.

YNWA
The Rob

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:50:07
Ed...my take on the owners not being present at semi-final yesterday was simply that it coincided with another appointment with Red Sox. I guess they wanted to send a message that Red Sox was still important to them. I also think that that the fact they took decision the same week during their visit to Anfield was also a sign that they're just as concerned with Liverpool FC as Red Sox. Nothing sinister in them not being at Wembley yesterday. Do you agree Ed? Thanks. {Ed001's Note - I don't see it as an issue, I don't really care if they are there or not personally.}

Atleast your owners have been to one. Stan kroenke has never attended a game

Exactly ed, who cares if they are there or not, I'd rather they gave their tickets to a real fan that would sing their hearts out for the lads. Like me. {Ed001's Note - exactly! They would have got some great publicity by giving a couple of fans their seats, through a charity or something.}

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:37:13
hi great result against everton one thing from the game that has not been highlighted is lucas flicking paper at everton supporters one wasnt to impressed

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:35:49
my team for the 12 13 campaign

reina
izla skrtel agger enrique

lucas banega

munian gerrard lavezzi

soldado

what do you think eds

You have a better chance of looking out your window and seeing a pig fly over

Yeah lets make another 6 changes and have another season of the team settling in. We only need 1 or 2 major first team signings.

BthekingB

So where is this 130m coming from. And who is the man who is going to convince them to come.. hmmmmmmm ok

3 signings
Soldado
Munian
G Ramirez
Sell a few as well

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:31:58
Gargoyle Moyes at his besys game,no doubt negotiating more cast offs in exchange for usual manc 3 points at O/T

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:31:16
Just as an aside isn't it great to see Borussia Monchengladbach doing so well. A team that will always be close to our hearts and it'll be great to see them in the champions league next season where they belong

Chris in Tamworth
JFT 96 You'll Never Walk Alone

Shame we missed out n reus. what a player

One of my earliest football memories is my uncle telling me all about that cup final game and how Liverpool and Gladbach would have a special bond. Great stuff, rivalries don't always have to involve hatred.

davethebutcher

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:31:03
i think we must buy 3 spain players ....They ara A.Dominguez , Xabi Alonso , Iker Munian ... In our team we have already 2 Spains & it will be easier to adapt to the club....

There is only one Spain......

2 smart guy. You made yourself look stupid. Pepe reina, Jose Enrique

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:29:48
JTF96,you'll never walk alone! WelshBoyDave

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:22:55
Before people say 'glasshouses' with Suarez etc..

I'll think you'll find we haven't had decisions go our way all season. Just look at 2012 for example - so many pens not given.

Suarez gets stamped on and gets booked for diving!? (thanks Fergie) ... Young gets a tap on the shoulder or sees a leg and WHAM - pirouette and pain face.

Lee YNWA

Not only that its also commentators they are supposed to be neutral at least while doing their jobs yet they would have digs at suarez i.e ohhh hes cleaver he obviously saw blah, blaj, blah and made the most out of it, and about other players they would say, they felt enough and went to ground.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:19:50
All the big decisions always seem to favour united at home.

It really kills the excitement of the title race, getting too predictable what will happen each game at old trafford.

John

Did they boo the minutes silence at Wembely?!

Rip the 96.

davethebutcher

Yeah John it really is getting too predictable yet another title coming to the home of the record setting champions :)

P.s Next year will be your year ha ha.

Devil Dust.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:19:01
Hi All,

This is a lazy request. Im without TV (long story!). Does anyone have a recommended link to stream the Spuds Chelski game?

Thanks

Red G

Firstrowsports or atdhe mate

Lee YNWA

Try tvcatchup.com for freeview channels fella

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:07:18
Team GB athlete Kelly Sotherton has tweeted: "Ashley Young, it's too late to qualify for the Olympics for diving!"

Lee YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:06:26
Gone but not forgotten.
Scouse_Pride
JFT96

 

 

15 Apr 2012 17:03:31
It does not look good that the owners would rather watch the first rounders game of the season ahead of a cup semi-final against their biggest rivals.

It was the centenary celebration of Fenway Park.

an american red

I am pretty sure they will be there for the finals, so cheer up man

Do you really care I don't see why it is such a big deal they are backing us financely

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:54:10
Is it just me or is rooney the most overated player in the league? I have watched him show flashes of magic and schoolboys error consistently for years and even despite his goals this year(many penalities) he has been no world beater.

Just needed to get this off my chest, and I got into an arguement recently about this. does the fact that his overhead kick hit his shin not take away from the goal v city 100%, its not like he meant it to s**t his shin...luck at its finest.

I've been saying it for years mate but our English media won't have it, he really is the emperors new clothes but they love him and we all know they what they're talking about because they're the experts, right?

Chris in Tamworth

Its unfortunate england dont have another striker to compete because his guaranteed to start.

Have you ever watched Rooney play live? I think your judgement on him would change if u did.
Djay

Am an LFC fan but i don't agree...that overhead kick last season was the awesome....if Suarez scored like that..would u say the same ? Rooney has very good technique.....u have got to respect talent...whichever club it belongs to..

Pankaj

He's the best forward in the league, closely followed by RVP, Aguero/Tevez and Suarez.

Lee YNWA

Been a great player sure but can't put him above RVP this season, and i'd have have any of aguero tevez or suarez in my team long before him...

He is overrated but is still a great striker I won't include Liverpool strikers to be fair
1 rvp
2 aguero
3 tevez
4 Rooney
5 cisse

Out of those I'd have Rooney & Suarez as my front two.

Lee YNWA

I will say it again, rooney is world class. He is the man around whom whiskey nose has built utd's team, n its working pretty well, isnt it? I rate rooney very highly, but hate him from the bottom of my heart.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:50:41
Newsflash.Manc U in Another Home penalty in Title run in shocker!

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:49:54
Be v hard game The final whoever we play.But i couldnt have stomached loing to B.S.Yould never have heard endve.Difference between us is we expect to beat them.There estatic for years on beating us.Ild say were underdogs for Final.But if we show willpower and commitment of 2nd half v B.S,with our fans roaring us on as we did,we could just do it

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:46:48
sad to say united are playing well all 12 of them are putting in a great team performance...

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:40:10
Thoughts and Prayers today are with the 96 and their families and friends. It's also with the whole LFC family.
YNWA and JFT96

Chi-Paul

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:35:29
i see the mancs have a helping hand from the ref again if that wearnt a dive by ashley young i dont no wot is! ref fell for his con and he was 4 yards away! shud of booked him ! disgrace...redman matt

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:35:29
i see the mancs have a helping hand from the ref again if that wearnt a dive by ashley young i dont no wot is! ref fell for his con and he was 4 yards away! shud of booked him ! disgrace...redman matt

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:34:03
I can't believe Ashley Young has just got away with another blatant dive to win a penalty, with barely a mention from the television commentators.

Ferguson has got referees absolutely petrified of being hair dryered and removed from games that they give them every decision.

redmersey

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:27:48
so ashley young dives again, and a ref hasnt got the bottle to say no!

pundits call it a 'winning mentality'

I call it down right cheating

United fans can press disagree all you want, doesnt change the fact its true

Utd have been doing this for years, how do you think they are on target for their 20th title....Bobbinred

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:27:21
Watched Moyes's post match interview, after yesterdays game. He said either side deserved to win and he thought that Everton had contained us well in the 2nd half.

It should have been 3 or 4 only for Andy missing the header and Maxi hitting the post. We had most of the possession, we tried to play football (all they did was hoof it up to Jelavic), we had more chances and controlled most of the game.

I don't think Moyes was watching the same game the rest of the world was watching? But that's a toffee nose for you, full of sh!t and bitter to the very end.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

I agree we batterd that small club once again.haha,bring on the cockneys.

Did you read Cahill's comments? Once a bitter, always a bitter.

The bitters can't handle that they bottled it in the second half, apart from Jelavic goal they didn't create one genuine scoring chance.

Jatt YNWA

Don't buy the S*n
JFT96

Carra created everton's only goal scoring chance of the game, which jelavic converted. Bitters were useless in 2nd half.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:27:21
People go on about Suarez diving, but Ashley Young is no better, He falls over in the box so easily.

RIP 96

Ross

He is better - he gets away with it every time - Suarez doesn't!!!
Dutchmal

Saurez is no diver,just a class,clever player.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:25:14
Yet again a team standing off utd this could be 3/4-0 hope not tho
Kp

They have to stand off, any sign on contact it will be a freekick and a yellow

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:25:07
Newcastle United defender Ryan Taylor has tweeted: "Ashley Young is an absolute DISGRACE. He's the biggest cheat in the league. His antics are a joke."

Lee YNWA {Ed001's Note - he will get in trouble for that.}

He's already deleted it ..

Ed001 - I'll give you odds of 10-1 of Fergie saying it was stonewall...(Obv max bet of 10p ;)

Lee YNWA {Ed001's Note - my daughter stole all my money to go the shops for an icecream, so I can't take the bet. By the way, since when did it cost a fiver to get an ice cream??}

Ahem - Perch cough cough.

JRG

Without a doubt ed. the refs association are a joke, the prem are a joke, and the fa are an even bigger joke!

Haha - Times change Ed, the kids of today are very smart & cunning ;)

Lee YNWA

They talk about refs aren't respected etc, etc thats why they get told to pyss off every two minutes by players.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:22:06
Henry was about to sack King Kenny but he gave him a year more to prove himself because MARTIN SKERTEL got annoyed,


redh0t

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:19:10
And people call Suarez a diver? Ashley young is terrible he's diving all over the place it's like watching Platoon! Him and bale are the worst!

Square tomato

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:19:05
My thoughts are with all the families who lost their loved ones in '89. The 96 will forever be in the hearts of all true Liverpool supporters and so many others around the globe. RIP.
Capetownred

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:16:39
Breaking News....

Ashley young has been given the nod instead of Tom Daley as Great Britains No.1 Great Diver in this summers Olympics after another master class performance in the opening 10 minutes of today's game against the Villa...

Curled1

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:16:30
Hi eds n reds

Another fine piece of diving from Ashley Young..he really is in with a chance of a medal at the Olypmics

atlfc70

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:13:03
Only took Man Utd 6 mins to con their first penalty. I say first 'cause I'm sure others will follow.

When will the premier league officials wake up to this sh1t. Every year in the run in they are gifted games!

The Robin

United won 4 nil-so they were obviously gifted the game.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:12:58
Within reason this is who I would sign: hoilett-free agbonlahor-5m drenthe-think free Luuk de Jong-11m Lennon-15m zaha-7m munian-I would pay 22m for him

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:12:17
Ashley young.... diving, cheating b**tard!

He is the best diver in the world

We can slate all we want but let's be honest luis isn't exactly a saint when it comes to staying on his feet

How many refs has Suarez conned compared to Young is more the point. Replays show that most of Suarez's appeals to refs are actually correct.
kidmillions

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:11:36
Young...

Tekneek

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:09:32
On B>S site oneve their numpties so twisted and bitter-wanted to know why our name printed first on tickets.There Ed had to point out cos we were defo through to next round,and were so first,Unbeliveably twisted fans.Yesterday one i saw was parading a t shirt extoling virtue of being bitter-sados

 

 

15 Apr 2012 16:04:56
Blue 247 still aint as magnanomous on own pages as on here!

 

 

15 Apr 2012 15:53:37
Just watched the memorial service on LFC TV, very moving
Justice for the 96
YNWA
Here's to the future, keep the faith.
In kenny we trust
Paul the red

First time iv had the chance to watch it live, it was very moving and poignant.
Justice for the 96

 

 

15 Apr 2012 15:25:40
PLAYERS OUT THIS SUMMER:

Dirk Kuyt
Fabio Aurelio
Dani Pacheco
Alberto Aquilani
Joe Cole
Glen Johnson

Hopefully:

Luis Suarez
Jamie Carragher

PLAYERS IN THIS SUMMER:

Scott Dann
Joe Allen
Anthony Pilkington
Junior Hoilett

---------------

RE: to the poster

are you having a laugh if we were to but those 4 players we would be fighting relegation you idiot..

Best joke all week!
Kp

Spot on. 4 top championship players, not champions league.

Well... who should we get then? we cant get absolute top players either. norwich and swansea has played surprisingly well this season, and I think we need players, like pilkington and allen, in order to get that "never say die" attitude back at anfield. dann and hoilett probably wont go straight in the lineup anyway. I am 100% sure we wont regret going for cheaper, "low-profile" players.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 15:22:07
I think we're on the up, we can only get better and better, 2 cups will sweeten our season after the dissapointments in the league. Next season andy carrol will be top scorer for sure and we will sign lampard and messi.

YNWA 88

Why would we want lampard?
NotInTheKnow

Never we are judged on the PL table

 

 

15 Apr 2012 15:20:43
SSN:

Drenthe was dropped yday for disciplinary reasons, so why would we want him if he can't behave...

Was wondering where he was. Think he might have caused us some problems if he had been available, though.

RDL

The disciplinary problems could have been due to family problems. we dont know the facts

 

 

15 Apr 2012 15:14:26
For all the 96 fans who lost their lives you may be gone but you will always be in the hearts of all Liverpool fans and football fans around the world. To go to watch your team play and never come home is so tragic this day must be really hard for all the people who lost their loved ones my thoughts are with them.

JFT96 you will never walk alone

Red raj

 

 

15 Apr 2012 15:12:44
Hey would love to watch the game from yesterday any chance of helping me out with a site?

Gone but not forgotten R.I.P the 96 and all my wishes to there families today my thoughts are with you's all.

Scottybhoy1888 YNWA {Ed001's Note - ESPN are showing repeats, not sure about websites though.}

Try footytube.com it has all the football highlights
fixbyred

Thanks for the info mate and to the eds.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:56:23
looks like where not getting iker muninian then with man u offering 20 mil for him how many more winger do man u need? adam lfc

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:37:04
u guys are lucky bast*rds and should hav bin smashed by the toffes

Someone seems to still be upset ; D

But we weren't, were we...lol.

You'll get over it son, school tomorrow....

:-)

Posted during the memorial disgusting

Yeah nice post to submit on the hillsborough anniversary and indeed while the memorial service is on we all have other concerns at the minute grow up will yer!

JD

Brad Jones's own words 'I didn't have to do a lot' ... However LFC hit the post & missed a few sitters. It was Everton my friend who were the lucky bast*rds.

dd

Go do the world a favour fella and take a long walk of a short pier... Not interested in your type of crap today!

Stevie W

Why were we lucky?

Sticks and stones will break our bones, but we will still be going to Wembley.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Lucky?? you are lucky carroll missed and maxi didn't make it 3

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:32:30
Gone but never EVER forgotten

Justice for the 96

Lee YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:27:38
A very sad day and a day that is very hard to everybody involved and lets hope justice is coming.

But i like to look on the positive side and i believe that they were smiling on us yesterday and the spirit was down to them and luca. I believe these have drove us to another FA cup final.

Around the fields of anfield road.

Justice for the 96
mighty reds

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:24:01
Herrera played for Pachuco yesterday in a 1-2 defeat at home. Bueno came on as sub and scored the goal. Does anyone know if he will still be joining Liverpool now that he is 18?
Dutchmal

I hope, so. there's hardly a point of him not joining. he impressed during his trials and is looking a very top prospect in the mexican league. Hope, it'd be done soon. He seems a very top talent. YNWA trustme

Get both, they would have each other as company although herrera is older bueno is 18 still.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:23:13
23 years on from that tragic day. The memories of the 96 will never die. We will always remember you. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families on this day and always. God bless you all.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:20:38
Carroll, Henderson and Downing WILL all come good - just Adam who I believe is out of his depth - Can see both Henderson and Carroll being long term at the club and bring talked about in the same terms as Toshack and Gerrard - Have faith - Alonso coming back to add the ammunition from midfield

 

 

15 Apr 2012 13:46:01
Some of the newspaper reports on yesterday's game are laughable. We don't seem to be very popular at the moment, which only makes it sweeter.

Eds - do you think their is an agenda?

The Jackal. {Ed001's Note - always will be mate.}

 

 

15 Apr 2012 13:45:18
The Justice Bell:-

A schoolboy holds a leather ball
in a photograph on a bedroom wall
the bed is made, the curtains drawn
as silence greets the break of dawn.

The dusk gives way to morning light
revealing shades of red and white, 
which hang from posters locked in time
of the Liverpool team of 89.

Upon a pale white quilted sheet
a football kit is folded neat
with a yellow scarf, trimmed with red
and some football boots beside the bed.

In hope, the room awakes each day
to see the boy who used to play
but once again it wakes alone
for this young boy s not coming home.

Outside, the springtime fills the air
the smell of life is everywhere
viola s bloom and tulips grow
while daffodils dance heel to toe.

These should have been such special times
for a boy who d now be in his prime
but spring forever turned to grey
in the Yorkshire sun, one April day.

The clock was locked on 3.06
as sun shone down upon the pitch
lighting up faces etched in pain
as death descended on Leppings Lane.

Between the bars an arm is raised
amidst a human tidal wave
a young hand yearning to be saved
grows weak inside this deathly cage.

A boy not barely in his teens
is lost amongst the dying screams
a body too frail to fight for breath
is drowned below a sea of death

His outstretched arm then disappears
to signal thirteen years of tears
as 96 souls of those who fell
await the toll of the justice bell.

Ever since that disastrous day
a vision often comes my way
I reach and grab his outstretched arm
then pull him up away from harm.

We both embrace with tear-filled eyes
I then awake to realise
it s the same old dream I have each week
as I quietly cry myself to sleep.

On April the 15th every year
when all is calm and skies are clear
beneath a glowing Yorkshire moon
a lone Scots piper plays a tune.

The tune rings out the justice cause
then blows due west across the moors
it passes by the eternal flame
then engulfs a young boys picture frame.

His room is as it was that day
for thirteen years it s stayed that way
untouched and frozen forever in time
since that tragic day in 89.

And as it plays its haunting sound
tears are heard from miles around
they re tears from families of those who fell
awaiting the toll of the justice bell.
___________________________

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the 96.

J

Amazing

Have to say this is brilliant, Well done it sums up a lot of thoughts.

Just one word for that. Brilliant.

As a Liverpool fan from Australia, I will never meet nor know those directly affected by this tragedy. However my heart goes out to all the families whose loved ones never returned. Your pain is felt around the world.
Justice for the 96 YNWA

Peeps

Rest assured there is at least one forest fan still boycotting the *** jft96

Fantastic..

Cheers

Macca

 

 

15 Apr 2012 13:34:59
Never forget the ...Ninety Six ...

In Football we seperate...In Tragedy we UNITE...

R.I.P.

Posted with Sincerity

Blue247

Nice blue 247.Maybe i had you wrong,so sorry for my hostility

Well done lad, you make me proud to be a supporter of this great city. Your words are genuine and sincere and for that you will always will be welcome on this site...... by me anyway

Tel 1949

 

 

15 Apr 2012 13:29:51
I posted this last year, and will continue to do so every year in the future.

"The Justice Bell-



A schoolboy holds a leather ball
in a photograph on a bedroom wall
the bed is made, the curtains drawn
as silence greets the break of dawn.

The dusk gives way to morning light
revealing shades of red and white,
which hang from posters locked in time
of the Liverpool team of 89.

Upon a pale white quilted sheet
a football kit is folded neat
with a yellow scarf, trimmed with red
and some football boots beside the bed.

In hope, the room awakes each day
to see the boy who used to play
but once again it wakes alone
for this young boy's not coming home.

Outside, the springtime fills the air
the smell of life is everywhere
viola's bloom and tulips grow
while daffodils dance heel to toe.

These should have been such special times
for a boy who'd now be in his prime
but spring forever turned to grey
in the Yorkshire sun, one April day.

The clock was locked on 3.06
as sun shone down upon the pitch
lighting up faces etched in pain
as death descended on Leppings Lane.

Between the bars an arm is raised
amidst a human tidal wave
a young hand yearning to be saved
grows weak inside this deathly cage.

A boy not barely in his teens
is lost amongst the dying screams
a body too frail to fight for breath
is drowned below a sea of death

His outstretched arm then disappears
to signal thirteen years of tears
as 96 souls of those who fell
await the toll of the justice bell.

Ever since that disastrous day
a vision often comes my way
I reach and grab his outstretched arm
then pull him up away from harm.

We both embrace with tear-filled eyes
I then awake to realise
it's the same old dream I have each week
as I quietly cry myself to sleep.

On April the 15th every year
when all is calm and skies are clear
beneath a glowing Yorkshire moon
a lone Scots piper plays a tune.

The tune rings out the justice cause
then blows due west across the moors
it passes by the eternal flame
then engulfs a young boys picture frame.

His room is as it was that day
for thirteen years it's stayed that way
untouched and frozen forever in time
since that tragic day in 89.

And as it plays its haunting sound
tears are heard from miles around
they're tears from families of those who fell
awaiting the toll of the justice bell."

JFT96 YNWA

Why was my name taken out of this? =O

MPez {Ed001's Note - it wasn't.}

Hmmm....I must have been an pure person then, and forgot to add my name, haha!

MPez

 

 

15 Apr 2012 13:23:44
now we r linked with drenthe, id take him as replacement for maxi if he has to leave, will not happen im sure. but who would be an ideal and likely replacement for maxi(keping in mind it would be someone to actually start regulary and play the whole 90mins)?



aussiepool tristan

 

 

15 Apr 2012 14:06:54
Everyone was complaining about why Carra was starting, and why Enrique was on the bench....
I firmly believe that KK gave Carra the nod out of respect to his service to the club. Kenny knew that if we got to the final, Jamie would be on the bench, so this was the best opportunity to give Carra a run in a red shirt at Wembley.
...something I think we can all agree he deserved.
Mark my word, the starting back 4, barring injury, will be: Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique.

YNWA USA

We'll see

Carra was there not out of respect to him, this is a semi final , not a testimonial, sentiment does not come into it, I think Carra was a starter because Kenny wanted players with semi final experience and derby experience, yes he made a mistake but I think most of us at Wembley saw and heard him organizing the defense again and again, when you have a rookie keeper, you need a cb to boss and organise.
I wont be surprised to see Carra again in the final.
Roy

They seem to manage fine without his shouting or organizational skills and they're of little use when you're the defender that needs the most shouting and and organizing. He's become the elephant in the room now only an elephant wouldn't be f**cked after 25 minutes
John Nada

 

 

15 Apr 2012 13:17:11
i hope the kit on player sightings (the one with the white v neck &gold crest & logo) is the new one...its well smart . very '77'78'79 i'll defo buy it

 

 

15 Apr 2012 13:05:06
its the managers fault the way we have performed this season, swapping and changin the team every week just for the hell of it. i hope kenny see's his mistakes and learns how to play inform players regulary and believe in them. and not let money make him decide to put in the team to justify his buys. every manager has bad buys.

Yeah he just does it for the sake of it and doesnt take into account the talent of the players or how they do in training. there is alot that we don't know

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:58:15
JFT96

YoungRed

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:45:42
jft96 R.I.P
Up the Pool
Redan

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:36:28
RIP, its a sad day for fans all over the world.
My thoughts are with the familys of the 96.

The Rob

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:32:49
R.I.P to the 96.

Adam

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:27:21
Just wanna say, where have all these everton fans gone, all I kept hearing was how good they are, how much form they are in , and how they were goin to smash us. Not this year blues :-)
Remember the 96
Gaz b

Leave it out.... Just show a little respect will you. We won they lost. Game over. Just remember the 96 and be happy we are in another final

Speeds

Nowt wrong with his post speeds

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:25:11
JFT for 96 Angels YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:23:37
i would just like to pass on my thoughts and wishes to the familys of the 96.
from a newcastle fan

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:18:03
I think that if lucas stays fit for all of next year we will be in with a good shout of 4th place providing we sign one winger. i dont think that we need soldado as andy carroll and luis suarez are starting to link up well and could be a force together next season. if we sign munian (big if) we will have a very good team

reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique

Downing Gerrard Lucas Munian

Suarez Carroll

also are we interested in gaston ramirez. i have watched him a few times and think he is a very good player

Just bcoz suarez and carrol have played well doesnt mean we dont need a striker. Kuyt will be leaving n needs replacing. Carrol is a targetman, suarez a creative striker, n our new signing shud be a clinical finisher, preferably soldado. To compete at the highest level, every team needs atleast 3 quality strikers.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:12:56
Justice for the 96, a day never to be forgotten.

Strength and support to all the families from Liverpool fans all over the world

Evered

 

 

15 Apr 2012 12:00:36
God bless the 96. Forever in our hearts.
YNWA

cozinoz

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:32:31
Wel eds

Just wondering is what the chances are of us getting all three of soldado muniain and Ramirez in the summer I think they would cost in and around 70 mil - player sales of about 20 to 25.. What u think ...

Face man {Ed001's Note - I doubt we will get all 3, a lot will depend on who leaves.}

Id like to get soldado,ramirez,isla,phillips and de jong :) that would be the perfect summer :) and kuyt,maxi,aurelio,johnson and possibly carroll out.
josh

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:57:29
Just watched Money Ball the movie. If it is as the movie, what they are trying to achieve at LFC. We will be a force to reckon with in the future. The only thing is that we need a manager that will gel all the players together. We have that for now but not sure whether Kenny can keep up with it. I can see a younger version of Kenny coming in the future.

Red in Shepp

It only just about worked in baseball and has
NO CHANCE of working in football. The whole
thing about the BPL is that is is so unpredictable you seriously can't be considering our chances due to that film I saw it too and if you knew anything about baseball its that the red sox got lucky and there are many other teams better than them who dont use moneyball.

Fact I agree, that there are many teams that do not use it. I for one wouldnt use it but I understand how they are trying to use it from watching the movie. Not easy and statistics dont always work. One thing that stats dont show is the passion and drive that players have or how big their heart or balls are. So im not sure how that stat is analysed

Are you sure you watched the movie? it had nothing to do with the red sox it was about the oakland A's and how they turned their form around with a fraction of the revenue that teams like the yankees had. the only reference to the red sox was at the very end when john w henry tried to sign billy beane (brad pitt) for boston because of what he had done at oakland. im not saying i buy into the idea of that working in football but at least get your facts straight if your gonna slag off the other guys original post

15 Apr 2012 17:38:52
Excellent article in yesterday's Guardian by the secret footballer about moneyball http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/13/secret-footballer-moneyball-stoke-liverpool?newsfeed=true.

The gist of the article is that baseball is primarily a 1 v 1 game pitcher v batsman. Football is a true team game and therefore harder to apply simple stats to. Stats such as final third entries, penalty box entries and regains of the ball in the final third can highlight imortant contributions of players who don't necessarily get many goals or assists. However such an approach better suits a team like Stoke with a simple game plan - balls into the box to Crouch, than it does a team who want to vary the point and style of attack. I think moneyball might well help a team consolidate itself in the Premiership like Stoke have done and Bolton did for years. However to challenge for the title, or even just the top four, you need creativity to unlock well organized defences (this is something we have lacked this year hence the number of draws at Anfield). This needs flair players with great individual skills and a great tactician in charge. It pains me that over recent seasons were we regularly linked with Aguero, Silva and Mata all of which have proved to be great successes in the Premiership. If we had signed just one of these flair players a couple of seasons ago I think we would be in much better shape now.

Bob

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:56:26
Today is a day when football takes the back seat and seems a little irrelevant, any of the Dalglish haters should remember what he done for the club, the city and most importantly the families after the Hilsborough disaster, I can still remeber the day, one of my earliest memories, the confusion I felt as a child as to how that could happen at a football match, my thoughts today are with the families who were affected, 96 never forgotten, and the pursuit of justice never given up. RIP the 96 You Will Never Walk Alone!

Gman82
Samson Rasher

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:55:57
RE: Moneyball

I think it is one of a number of tools that can bring success to a club. The other factors (not in any order)are:

1) Stability
2) Money (Revenues/sponsors etc)
3) Scouting network
4) Manager and support staff/network
5) Player desire/will to win
6) The fans
7) Statistics/Analysis
8) Youth investment/structure (includes some of the earlier points I know)

So the big question is how much of these have Liverpool got in place vs our major competitors?

1) Stability - Not really, three managers in three years is not stable, plus the ownership change and ins/outs of senior people at the club does not give the impression of stability.

Man Utd - Manager has been there 26 years and the owners have been there several years with just ocassional movement in Fergie's support structure.

2) Money - there was a good article on this the other day. Liverpool have not increased their revenues due to lack of Champions league football and hampered by the stadium size. Manchester Utd and Manchester City have bigger stadiums. We have resolved our debts issue, however we are outmuscled financially for several players which means we cannot get the world's best talent consistently which of course will hamper the team's chances.

3) Scouting network, our scouting network is not particularly impressive - very hit and miss to say the least. Needs reviewing, just look at Newcastle's scouting network, good players on small transfer fees and no doubt wages. Manchester Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City also to some extent have a better scouting network, though Arsenal and Chelsea have dropped off noticeably over the last couple of years. Is this for us a disconnect between strategy and player scouting and acquisition? I personally believe we need to look at more foreign talent, there must be more Torres and Suarez out there!
4) Manager and support staff. Fergie has been around consistently for 26 years and had won most things numerous times. Liverpool have had 7 changes of manager in that time. Dalglish was out of the game for 13 years before he came back whereas Fergie had been there all that time, also the likes of Wenger, Mancini and most of the Chelsea managers had recent experience and success. Howevewr Dalglish has won a trophy and on the verge of possibly another trophy. He knows how to win, but is he the long-term solution. Most of his signings have been very poor indeed and only in the cups have they looked anything towards being decent. Liverpool's league form has been shocking when you consider how well Newcastle and Everton have done with little money. He should be judged on this. Do we need to change manager or give Dalglish another year to get us into the Champions league.
5) Player will to win - that has been severely lacking in many league games and it's noticeable Gerrard has only been at his best here and there and the team lacks a driving force. When we have gone a goal down, we go another goal down without responding or we just cannot score. The players all need to look at themselves. Look at Manchester Utd, how many last minute goals do they get or get lucky breaks. Or Manchester City to a lesser extent, they find a way to win - we need to do that. We did in 2009 it wasn't that long ago!
6) The fans - we don't help ourselves at times by not getting behind the team, me for one but it's difficult when we all know the team should be higher than 8th in the league. Maybe we need to perform better?
7) Statistical/Analysis - It is a good to have these tools as it highlights a players strengths and weaknesses but is purely an objective tool that doesn't include players passion or subjective opinion. Also it only shows players in another team and their situation and can't take into account what happens when you put them in another team with different teammates and the all-important "gelling" and "chemistry", we've seen players not doing what they did for their previous clubs last year because they are doing slightly different jobs or playing in a different system/position; Adam,Downing, Carroll, Henderson are prime examples. Adam is playing a deeper role, not suited to him, Carroll has not had the service, Downing has been played away from the left at times and Henderson at right back or right wing more than the middle. This partially explains the lack/loss of form. Dalglish is at fault for not building a team and not using players atttributes correctly. Look at other teams and they've had players that slot in and deliver particularly Newcastle but then that is tied with scouting and having a system and good strategy. Man Utd have had problems as have all our rivals with team gelling at times.
8) Youth investment - excellent over the last five years and must rival our competitors. We have seem Spearing, Kelly, Flanagan, Robinson and Sterling all come through with the latter having most promise of all. Also there are many other youngsters not far away such as Suso, Coady and Morgan that should push for contention. We are buying good young talent such as Jordan Ibe and Shelvey which shows we have a good youth scouting network and good coaching structure.

Hessle Red {Ed001's Note - you do realise that what people incorrectly refer to as Moneyball, is simply the statistical analysis of players.}

You never mentioned talent in your 1-8 list, something we are seriously lacking.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:33:47
RIP the96 our thoughts are with the families - tmac

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:30:47
our premier league fixture for 05 may would of been chelsea . wonder if it still will be .

alan waddle

I might have missed something.....

Why would it not be Chelsea?

Er..because 5th May is FA Cup Final day, and in

case you didn't notice, we're in it!

Jimbo

Fa cup final. Coincidentally (possibly, we don't know tye other finalist yet - it's bound to be chelsea), last year, stoke and city were due to play each other in the league on the day of the fa cup final.

Haha, silly me
Definately missed something haha.... When did the F.A Cup final start being played during the season? I always thought it was the week after the last league game then it's Europa then Champions League :S
Oh well, least we're there anyway

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:28:20
hey eds, do you know if there have any pictures of the knew lfc kit been leaked or released.

really hope they look good, thanks {Ed001's Note - only the ones that have been sent in and are on the player sightings page of the site. Not sure they are correct though.}

 

 

15 Apr 2012 11:08:20
Good result but a confusing selection, but we got the job done. Would also like to say that I wanna see dan agger as cdm don't ask me why, I think he's made for that position!
Also downing on the right and Luis on the left. What do you think fellow reds??

I can see dan the man in that position, I think he could make it his own!!

I don't think Agger is a good enough passer for CDM. Good enough from the back, but not good enough in the busy areas. He was sloppy with his passing from LB on the weekend.

LIVERPRES

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:59:45
remember the 96 , we will always.................lfc

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:58:43
I suspect the sinister twist to which Macca refers re: Comolli is the fact that the Frenchman tried to get his excuses in first with the owners and was actively trying to get Kenny the sack to bring his own man in. It backfired spectacularly but Dalglish is not safe as manager.

PieInTheSkyMan

Thus the Q&A interview he gave recently, around a week ago. Did sound like he was trying to aend out a message danstancing himself.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:57:11
Slaven Bilic please.

I forget about him...good shout mate.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:51:59
I can see kenny being the director of football with rodolfo being promoted to the first team,good move if you ask me,what are the chances eds?great site by the way! {Ed001's Note - I would like that, but I think he will be left where he is, to bring through the youngsters.}

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:49:42
All my love to everyone affected JFT96 xxxxxxxx

Square tomato

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:32:48
Just want to say I hope you get justice for the 96. Some things are bigger than rivalries. Gone but never forgotten.

RedManDan (Utd fan)

Totally agree and well said. I for one never sing chants about Munich and respect your tragedy.

Hessle Red

Why do people disagree ai something like this? Baffles me.

3 sad men that will have nothing but bad luck in their pathetic little lives.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

Whoever disagreed is a tool. Nothing better than setting aside rivalries for giving peace who lost their liver in tragic circumstances.
Indian Buzzer

Should just ignore them! They think it's funny to them selfs and thank the person for the post,cheers mate
Kp

No worries KP, life is more important than football.

RedManDan

Sorry, meant lives, not liver.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:11:27
will the team wear the new kit for the final ? {Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}

Might do didn't chelski or Pompey do it a few years ago

Oh no, I have memories of white suits

Dnt think they can,can they ed? with adidas till end of season and warrior contract not starting till june is it
mrbrown

Chelsea only did it when They bought themselves out of their contract with Umbro i think.

Lyndon

 

 

15 Apr 2012 10:08:27
(Re: A. Johnson) ED - what off field attitude? {Ed001's Note - he likes to party and doesn't apply himself properly in training, hence why he is so poor when he starts matches and fades out as the game goes on.}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Necastle will probably buy him and turn him into a top player! ;-)

JK

He is still a good buy at his age and price

Most talented English player IMO would absolutely love to think we could get him

Chris in Tamworth

How do you know what price Man City will want? Unless I've missed something.

Newcastle aren't some New wonder club
See what their like next season before we start raving about them

 

 

15 Apr 2012 09:56:59
Justice for the 96. Never, ever forgotten.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Could the people who disagreed with this please explain why?

 

 

15 Apr 2012 09:56:25
Everyone talking of carrol n suarez. What about MARTIN SKRTEL? One of his best games for sure. He was covering up for carra's mistakes as well.
Indian Buzzer

Martin skrtel..immense...you can see the passion in his face....quality...in a rafa accent.........

It will be crime of the highest order if Skrtel does not get Liverpool's player of the Year award. When skrtel came here, he was rash and inconsistent. Look how that has changed. Hope downing n co do the same.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

15 Apr 2012 09:30:41
Kenny has admitted that he mishandled the Suarez racism controversy....

Well better late than never..!

But Kenny should start to accept his mistakes.. The first step towards amending any mistake is accepting it..

We all are behind him.. Just spend a little more smartly in summer..

YNWA
Musicnation

The whole Suarez thing was mis-handled by a lot of people , but guess who took all the blame , thank god its behind us now .and lots to look forward too .
redforever

 

 

15 Apr 2012 09:09:11
well done yesterday good luck in final , i can't stand london teams .i live in liverpool walton i support newcastle united most liverpool fans i meet now are very bitter towards my team WHY ?would u swap your season for newcastle 's ? the problem i see with liverpool at the minute there not bringing world class players through there youth system like in the past likes of gerrard fowler mcmanaman carra etc . also need to build a bigger stadium cos they could get 70+ a week there i kno a lot of supporters can't get tickets for home games too many foreign supporters in anfield

Think most lpool fans would like to see newcastle get into the champions leauge this season mate , its only banter when newcastle fans come on here giving it the big one , but remember its geting into the top 4 year after year that makes you a big club mate , something even we have to start to do again , about the forgein support , its great for the club , as lpool are a gobal brand and should increase ground capicity to 70 or 80 thousand ,but as i said newcastle have proved this season a team can be built and its not all about big money transfers , think your manager has done great and i for one will be cheering you on to get that 4th spot, goodluck..............lfc

To be fair, its the other way too- a lot of Toon fans are still bitter about some of Kennys decisions when he was managing up there, including him bringing in an ageing John Barnes and getting rid of some top quality players.

But personally I like the way Newcastle play, and they're my second club.
I've been visiting the town every few weeks for the last year or so, and I have to say the people up there are brilliant too. They treat you like one of their own no matter where you're from.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 08:49:06
will the team wear the new kit for the final ?

 

 

15 Apr 2012 08:44:21
The Carling Cup triumph and the FA Cup Final are the cause of the poor league form. We don't have the squad to fight on three fronts. If we can win the FA Cup that will enable Kenny to focus on the league next year without critics carping about lack of trophies. Watch next yr the cup teams will be "weakened" and the league position a lot better.

A wise and wizened sage.

You have made a very good point there, the team and management signalled there intent when we played Exeter City in the second round of the Carling Cup. Next year we will probably play more of the youngsters in the Carling and F.A Cups, while the first team squad focuses on the League and a quality european run. With the Europa tho i would mix it up a lot tho, first teamers and reserves. I would keep carra,bellamy,spearing,adam, to play all the europa games with some of the youngsters like wisdom,suso,adorjan,flanno,robinson,coady,sterling just for the experiences.
Si

 

 

15 Apr 2012 08:19:39
Mourinho for manager? If FSG are not into controversy the answer has to be no. He would be a nightmare when it comes to PR. He'd diminish their 'asset' and he'd leave Liverpool like most clubs he's left, squabbling. That's not needed again. They need someone good and non controversial. If FSG appoint the ex Barcelona DOF then that for me indicates that they think that Barcelona are the blueprint to follow. That to me would point to Guardiola as the man they want. As is known Borrell and Segura individuals responsible in part for Barca's present success with 'homegrown' players they coached are a fundamental part of Liverpool's coaching staff now. I wouldn't be surprised if FSG are prepared to wait for Gaurdiola.

The Big Easy

Guardiola wud be a dream come true.
Indian Buzzer

They'll have to wait an awfully long time for Pep. Mourinho certainly isn't the answer, he may achieve some short term goals but he has no interest for youth development or long term gain.

Papa G

Guardiola has a rolling one year contract with Barcelona. He will leave them soon. He (or his wife) said recently it is aging him.

He will almost certainly come to EPL when he leaves Barca. The owners are on top of it, I am sure.

Thought it was frank rijkaard who got the ball rolling?

Cruyff got the ball rolling mate.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

 

 

15 Apr 2012 08:14:33
We're in with a shout for the Budweiser Cup

What's the Budweiser cup?

Its the FA cup. The Budweiser cup.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 07:47:44
A day of rememberance for Liverpool fans all over the world for those who lost their lives @ Hillbrough!


Red from SA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 07:39:23
great result time to move on in the league and finish above everton :)
reds for life

 

 

15 Apr 2012 07:38:25
Justice for the 96. Gone but never forgotten. Always in our hearts.

Matty P.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 06:49:16
i guess commoli will be made an escape goat if we play well for the rest of the season

An escape goat?
Really?

Chris in Tamworth
JFT 96 You'll Never Walk Alone

I think that donkey already bolted! Nick.

Escape Goat, brilliant !

CovoKenya

Ha ha, my goat escaped...really gutted cos my grass is getting longer,commoli could be the scape goat though

 

 

15 Apr 2012 06:23:03
I don't think Carroll is a number 9 material for our club. A decent squad player maybe but definitely not a player to play alongside the likes of Suarez and Gerrad. We desperately need some quality in our squad or we won't be able to compete with the likes of Manchester clubs, Chelsea and even Tottenham. Setting apart Gerrad (who is also not playing good) and Suarez where do you guys think we have quality..?
These clubs have the likes of Rooney Nani Young Valencia Giggs Scholes Bale Modric Van der Vart, Aguero Silva Toure Nasri Mata and pardon me but Torres is not finished yet. He will come back faster and stronger..

My point is if we want to challenge for title or even the fourth spot we need a lot more quality in our squad..

Musicnation YNWA

Stop moaning and support your team no wonder he's playing bad 1 cup another final ? what does it take to please reds ? would you swap with newcastle 's position

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about do you....you Carroll haters do my f**king head in!

The Carroll & Suarez partnership is starting to shine and will be great for us for years to come! So instead of keep putting him down why don't you start supporting him for a change!!!

It's the midfield that is not working because there is no balance!

Carroll's improved form is the tip of a very large iceberg imo. It's clear to me that he has the attributes to be a top premier league centre forward, should he want it enough (which I think is the bigger issue i.e. work hard for proper top football career v's make enough money whilst enjoying lots of 'me time'?)

I think it's unquestionable that an in-form and fired-up AC would be a great asset for any team.

The Squirrel

Drogba has been succesful at Chelsea and Andy Carroll's style is not a million miles away from his.

Just because Andy has a different style to the other players you have mentioned doesn't mean he won't be a success.

JRG

Common,look forward..dont be satisfied with existing team..you dont want liverpool like at back in 20 year...win treble,successful club..and you be proud to be reds..do you?

Liverpool still need a goal scorer soldado

 

 

15 Apr 2012 06:13:28
Final third Regains:
So affording to stats. This is our strongest team. I've been reading Moneyball Statistics and Damien Comolli and Guardian article. This stat about final third regains (FTR)

Having read the above theory that the target for FTRs is twelve per match, I was disappointed to see that Liverpool have yet to achieve that at all this season (the 0-0 draw at Anfield with Tottenham Hotspur saw this season's best performance on this metric, with nine). The Reds' average of 3.31 per match also seemed hugely underwhelming.

Until I looked up the figures for the rest of the Premier League that is; whilst a long way short of the supposed figure of twelve required to potentially win a game, it turns out that Liverpool have the highest number of FTRs per match in the division.

"At Liverpool Comolli has relied more heavily on the so-called "Moneyball philosophy" (which, irritatingly, has also infiltrated my club), which argues, among other things, that a team that wins more than 40 headers, or crosses the ball more than 30 times or makes 12 regains in the final third, will nearly always win".

perhaps twelve FTRs is a much harder target to achieve per match than thirty crosses or forty headers, but it certainly appears to be a statistic of interest to Comolli as the Reds are currently the best team at it.

___________(???)

Luis Suarez
Dowing_Adam__Gerrard_Bellamy

Enrique__Skrtel_Agger_Kelly

___________Renia

Crossing the Ball:

It's clear that Liverpool have been crossing more during this season than in the previous three years, average figure per game has been 30.3,

From the previous four seasons of Premier League football, only the Manchester United team of 2009/10 crossed the ball more than this year's Liverpool side, and only 0.1 times more per game at that, for a manager to have seen an almost 50% increase in the number of crosses per game is clear numerical evidence of a radical switch in how his team plays.


So this team should intercept the ball more and cross the ball more than any other. The big question mark remains over the player playing at sole striker up front. We need to find someone who can convert the crosses into goals.

Final third Regains may be all well and good, but isn't it a sign of pressing game. barcelona and Man utd to some extent try to close press the ball in order to get FTR

Good post thanks for the info. I watched Moneyball last night interestingly enough and my over riding feeling toasted this, is it won't win u anything in footy.

While I'm no baseball fan the game calls for specialists at certain areas. They play in certain zones which eliminates a lot of varability in the calculations. Adam for example may have excellent stats however covers a lot of ground and would be pivotal in that midfield position. The likes of opposition formation, cofidencs, how quickly a team presses changes these calcs.

Footy I believe is a very unique game, things happen and change so regularly that it means it can't be 'tracked'.

Just my thoughts anyway.

Heart goes out to the familys of the 96 today.

Realistic red

Regarding above when shankly was asked by a foreign reporter what his tactics were . shanks replied its quite simple . WHEN WE HAVE THE BALL WE ALL ATTACK AND WHEN WE DONT HAVE THE BALL WE ALL DEFEND . this rule will still apply in a billion years time . thats the game of football summed up in one sentence . just a side issue people need to see sunday mirror picture of carrolls winner afro head has tried to tug of war him this picture needs to seen by all refs no wonder he hasnt had a decision all season . i didnt know he has been fouled like this every game.

alan waddle

 

 

15 Apr 2012 06:09:34
The playing style improved a lot under Kenny but lack of goals and thus favorable results has put our team under immense lot of pressure. We desperately need a technically gifted and efficient goal scorer because if we get one Suarez will provide him with tonnes of opportunities. Carroll isn't fast and mobile enough to play alongside Suarez.. A pacey and tricky winger will also be a welcome relief. A backup CDM because all can see how our season went down after Lucas injury. And most of all a major overhaul in coaching staff. I have little complaints with Kenny too but i believe if we strengthen our team in summer with quality then he will much better.
My two cents..
Please don't abuse if you don't agree..!!

Musicnation

 

 

15 Apr 2012 05:09:20
...............................Brad Jones
Glen Johnson...M Škrtel...J Carragher..Daniel Agger

--------------Henderson..........Gerrard
Craig Bellamy......................................Maxi
.................Andy Carroll......Luis Suarez

so that is our best team.lol

Downing instead of bellamy. bellamy is on his last legs. Was a fantastic player though. Like suarez, never wanted to give up.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

15 Apr 2012 04:56:01
when the final whistle went i thought we won the fa cup.......i waited like 20min for the trophy then i realised it was the semi haa......really felt like a grand final ha

BADGER

 

 

15 Apr 2012 03:10:26
I think we will all have to agree, it is obvious Liverpool have no hope in the Final. Two time FA Cup Final, LOSER, Tim Cahill has passed verdict on our chances and dismiised any chance of a win, so it must be true.

What a t**t he is, not to mention a sore LOSER. He says we scored 2 goals from Evertons mistakes. Did they not score from our mistake? Remind me Cahill when you last won anything more than a game of cards on the way home on the LOSERS bus. Have some dignity ands just admit that you were not good enough. You say that LFC have a lot of work to do... agreed... I think you Toffees have reached your peak and can't stand the height, the only way for you now is down down down. Enjoy the ride Bye Bye.

Cahill is soooo jealous....and they wonder why we call them the bitters ?
Tel 1949

So bitter, he also says that some decisions didn't go their way. I can't really think of any significant ones. The dodgiest of all was in their favour for the 'just' offside goal.

Simsimo

 

 

15 Apr 2012 01:59:06
Well done boys. I believe Carra may have to have a rest after this season. Sometimes you have to realise that the when the brain tells your body to move and your body does not respond its time you play in the reserves or begin coaching.

red in shepp

 

 

15 Apr 2012 01:39:35
All I'm going to say is Justice for the 96. We will continue fighting for justice and will not stop until we get it. Really emotional day for every red(and most blues too) today, and its a time to remember the 96 friends and the 96 angels who were all a big part of the Liverpool family. It must be so hard for the friends and family of the 96 every year and my thoughts and prayers are with them.
JFT96
Smithy

 

 

15 Apr 2012 01:36:38
This 1 is 4 macca. is it possible dalglish said carroll and co were his signings so they wudnt lose confidence or the media going on about it? it wud explain why they sacked comolli.

Our signings were Dalglish's choice but the negotiated transfer fees was Comolli's responsability.
If we paid
10 mill - Carroll
10 mill - Henderson
10 mill - Downing
Then that would be a fair price and wouldn't of created the circus surrounding over price players.
Football is a business as well as a passion but the right men who negotiate these deals need to understand value and not pay over the odds regardless wether they get the player or not.
Physic red

 

 

15 Apr 2012 01:27:28
Hi Ed001,

Just thought you would enjoy this, especially Mike Summerbee afterwards.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjfTVkC9nJg

Proof that he really is a tw@.

Jatt YNWA

 

 

15 Apr 2012 01:12:12
Great result today, but why did agger start on the left? Drop carra. Hendo played a lot of the match in the left? Why? Bellamy changed the game. Confusing.

Aldo's tash

We won doing that didn't we?

MIKEY

Only reason I can see to having Agger on the left would be that his quality in the final third is better than Jose's. Jose has the pace and the strength to get up and down that wing all day but his final ball tends to let him down... Daniel Agger is a center back with an amazing skill set to be honest and he's better at helping organize the back four.

Hendo got switched mainly to allow Downing to run at Baines... which worked quite well to be honest. He should have gotten an assist.

And I think we'd all like Craig to play every minute of every game but we have to be realistic with his fitness.

Our 2nd half formation and tactics were great, and Kenny realized Bellamy could get us the win and put him on. What more could you ask from the King?

Sorry forgot to sign..

Travis Lee

Henderson played a lot better on the left than he did on the right

Red Ollie

Exactly, MIKEY.

Some people like whining just for the sake of it.

The Squirrel

I think agger played at left back for defending set pieces it is quite obvious, they have a big team with good delivery. Also we made our own set pieces more dangerous


Sweetcorn

 

 

15 Apr 2012 01:10:02
Still don't agree with Enrique not playing today, drop carra . Why was hendo on the left? Look what Bellamy did? .. Good result though boys.

Aldos

Was he injured

Have you not been watching his performances over the last few weeks? Or is it that you watched him training this week and considered that he'd sufficiently recovered from his run of bad form?

Moot points. We're in the final.

Let's enjoy yesterday and pay our respects today.

The Squirrel

You still dont agree with Enrique not playing despite a wonderful win? Just because you dont agree, do you really think anyone cares ?

We won a semi final for christs sake and all your interested in is that you thought Carra shouldnt have played instead of Enrique. Kenny is our manager and he knows what he has to do to win at Wembley, try supporting him for once.

This post really annoys me, you have an overinflated opinion of just how much tou really know about football dear chap.

We play football to win, especially against everton in a semi final. We won, and were in a SECOND final in Kenny first full season.

Get over it and stop worrying about the fact that Kennys opinion on team selection doesnt quite match yours

tel 1949

 

 

15 Apr 2012 00:42:01
From Keith (MUFC)

aka Sir Alex x, and Eric Banterna x

We should always be rivals, there should always be banter, but there must always be perspective, and respect.

I pay my respects and honour the 96.

Thank you & well put Keith.

Justice for the 96.

Lee YNWA

Class act my friend. Good to hear from the fan of a rival. YNWA

Travis Lee

Nice Keith,respect pal

 

 

15 Apr 2012 00:38:25
a question for ed001, I was reading the discussion earlier about the owners questioning KK about maxi and all that. Is this normal for owners to get involved in footballing decisions? If they have never been football managers before should they really get involved? I don't want to become like abramovich when he gets involved and it always ends up bad. thankyou
hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - owners have always got involved, more so when things are going badly, less so when things go well. It is nothing new mate, don't worry.}

I feel more reassured now, I was starting to worry. Thanks
Hibsylfc

On the subject of owners questioning kenny about maxi.
it was the same question every Liverpool fans around the world has asked themselves recently. Why is a man who has scored 10 goals in 20 games not playing while a man who has only scored 10 goals in 50 games is.
And maxi will be asking himself the same question too, probably why he will leave in the summer. Andy Carroll is working hard, I beleive he is feeding on scraps most of the time.
His killing zone is 7" of the ground in the 6 yard box, plenty of pace on the ball and he will have many more goal scoring opportunities.
So often he is making little one two passes on the half way line and losses procession or can't keep up with the play, he is not built for speed.
I hope we invest in proper wingers who can provide the right crosses, our players always look for a low pass into the box or shotot when their around the edge of the 18 yard box.
Suarez is the worst or this as he never looks for Carroll as if he has so little faith in him. I hope now that andy has two in two that his confidence will improve so will that of his team mates. They now know where to put the ball if they want him to era p the benefits.
The manager has tinkered to much this season, Carroll has not played every minute of every game not even close. Had he played more often his goal tally would surely have been better.
I hope he is now on his way to a success full career at Anfield.

 

 

15 Apr 2012 00:18:24
www.manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/ar_60.php

I wonder who sent that in......;-)

G.A.G.U.S

Tbh i think it's more like Ibrahimovic lol

 

 

15 Apr 2012 00:17:40
The season when we beat the blues 3 times!!!I hope it will be Chelsea for the final! Keep it up lads!!
YNWA!

HK

 

 

15 Apr 2012 00:02:25
Hi Eds!

What do you think of the current coalition in place and do you think David Cameron will be available in 2014 for about 30p and a fruit pastille?

Cheers pal!

P.S. Soldaaaaaado? {Ed001's Note - I would think it would be an overpayment. Still a chance, we want him, he is likely to move on, but there are likely to be others in for him.}

I know we are after a right winger but this is taking it too far. Lol

MIKEY

 

 

14 Apr 2012 23:52:55
@Macca - Como;i/Sinister. Do the letters F or J have any significance?

Dont get it..

Francis Jeffers? Are we buying him?

 

 

14 Apr 2012 23:51:51
Eds,
we really just have one player who can make things happen and go past one, two or three man - Luis Suarez.
Other teams in the prem have more, for example ManUtd: Rooney, Valencia, Nani, Young

Do you think we will look for a "special" player in the summer who is technically gifted and can change things and turn matches around? {Ed001's Note - I certainly hope so, but those players are difficult to find.}

Raheem Sterling is one which will be one of the greatest hopefully gets more games next season

 

 

 
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