Liverpool Banter Archive October 14 2017

14 Oct 2017 22:56:13
Any chance of Keita coming in January? OUr current midfield looks so pedestrian and unconvincing. We have 3 "jack of all trades and master of none" midfielders who inspire no confidence going forward or in protecting the defense. Keita has to be an upgrade on all 3.

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

14 Oct 2017 23:31:53
He is indeed an upgrade, a massive upgrade. We'd have to pay more I think should we want him in January (somebody correct me if I'm wrong there) - He won't be coming in January in my opinion, let's wait for the summer, concentrate on getting a decent CB in January, that's priority right now.

15 Oct 2017 02:43:34
I don't think the defence is as bad as made out. A better GK and a CM who likes to defend and they will look much better. I don't think we will do much in January. Maybe VVD if possible but I don't expect 3/ 4 first team additions if any.

15 Oct 2017 04:25:24
Priority should be signing a CDM and a couple of CBs. No point signing a new GK till Karius and Ward have been given a fair shot. VVD, De Vrij and Nzonzi will make our defense much more composed and solid.
In Jan, its imperative we get in at least one CB. The rest will and should be sorted out in the summer.

{Ed001's Note - why De Vrij? He is very slow and injury prone from what I have seen.}

15 Oct 2017 04:38:53
Because he seems to be the most realistic option right now, and there is a good chance we sign him due to his contract situation. And he can't be any worse than our lot can he (when he plays)? Just want an upgrade in the CB area, that's it. In a dream world, would be Manolas and Alderweireld but we all know that's never going to happen.

{Ed001's Note - so you just want change for change's sake, rather than making sure they are better? That is how we ended up in this mess, managers buying players who were not better than what we had, just to change things. De Vrij is realistic because he is not that good. We could realistically get a lot of players who are no improvement but that is not a reason to buy them.}

15 Oct 2017 05:07:30
DE Vrij is better than Lovren and Klavan from what I have seen (which was 3-4 years ago though) . He looked way more composed and solid for his age than Lovren and Klavan do now when put under pressure, that's for sure.
I know that we have not scouted properly before buying in the past, but we need new defenders now. The current ones have had more than enough chances and they continue to make too many schoolboy errors. Its time for a change, whether good or bad coz chances need to be taken on new recruits than persisting with what we know are already average players at LFC. Migs has been at Anfield for 4 years running. Does that mean there are no better options we can take a punt on?
De Vrij will be dirt cheap and worth taking a shot at.

{Ed001's Note - De Vrij has lost his way mate, injuries have robbed him of a lot. Honestly I would not see the point in buying him, he makes Klavan look pacey and he cannot be relied upon. We do not need new defenders, we need better defenders, that is where you are going wrong. Change is not a plus, stability is something we need more. Players can develop a partnership over time, so you do not change just for the sake of change, you change if it is going to improve things. If people would grow up and stop being such spoilt children, tried showing some patience, then we would be in a much better place. I won't hold my breath, as you will still be on here every single time we don't win screaming for new players.

Obviously you are not even able to take the lesson from your own posts. A replacement was bought for Migs, the change you so desire, yet you all got on his case, so he had to be dropped. Now you want to do the same to the defence to set us back even further. Nice one.}

15 Oct 2017 05:40:24
I did not get on Karius' back. I still strongly feel he should be No.1 or rotating with Ward while Migs gets the boot.
And the CBs have had enough time to gel. Its not working, its obvious. I am not advocating De Vrij but if the club is targeting him, then Klopp obviously believes he can be a solution to our defensive conundrum. And he obviously won't be the only CB targeted. Seems Klopp wants both VVD and De Vrij.

{Ed001's Note - if you say so. More change is what you want, rotate keepers. I give up, this is pointless, modern day fans deserve nothing. You are not advocating, yet you just spent this thread telling us how De Vrij would improve things, yet clearly you have no idea whether that is true or not. This is just ridiculous. The cbs are not gelling because of the injuries, they are simply not getting time to gel because they are all in and out of the side, now you want to bring in someone who has even more injuries to fix it. You can't even figure out what I reply anyway, just talking about how you personally did not get on Karius' back, like that is in any way at all relevant to the point I made.}

15 Oct 2017 06:15:57
Lovren and matip have only lost 1 game where they have started together, it's getting them starting together that's the problem.

15 Oct 2017 06:42:25
Redmick

“. Lovren and matip have only lost 1 game where they have started together. @

Yes thanks to our forwards who scores equal amount to bail them out!

{Ed001's Note - yet you all say our forwards are unable to score. Which is it? Seems you all just want scapegoats and haven't actually got a clue.}

15 Oct 2017 06:52:32
I am sorry I have never questioned about the front 3. They are the only people that actually functions. My worry has always been a medicore midfield and awful defense!
Give me 38 1-0 and I ll happily take it!

{Ed001's Note - haven't you? You must be the only one who hasn't recently. Everyone else is whining they are not scoring.}

15 Oct 2017 07:23:32
They are shouting at forwards simply to mask the defense and midfield who constantly bottles week in week out!
Rafa won two league titles at Valencia playing 1-0 football. The pressure on the front 3 is immense every week! They are doing triple shifts due a piss poor defense and medicore midfield! Our CM’s together have scored a MASSIVE 1 goal in between them. The team is not balanced hence we rely on GOALS! No wonder we have the worst GD in the league inspite of scoring 20 goals this season!

15 Oct 2017 08:00:05
Spot on, Ed. Tth even listening to. They think that cos a player is realistic, then he must be better or he must be better cos he does not play for us. De Vrij is injury prone as he is just returning from a nast injury himself and pace is not his strong suit. How would he cope in a a quicker and faster and more physical league where we play a high line? These fans can't answer that as well cos you know, we should just sign 'insert CB here" even tho he does not improve us.

This is why I backed Klopp for not signing a CB just for the sake of it. If that CB does not improve us, these same people will be coming on here saying he should have just kept the money and waited for his real choice to come free. See how that works? People are simply interested in being right w/ o using any type of reasoning or understanding from the manager's point of view. Klopp wants improvements, NOT STOP GAPS. If you cannot understand that then, no one cannot help you.

Harry, we will not be playing like your god Rafa anytime soon and invoking him every time is pointless and of no consequence. His time has gone and he is history. Leave it be.

15 Oct 2017 08:48:48
Bingo I understand what you're saying about Klopp wanting improvements and not stop gaps but aren't Roberston, Klavan, Ox and Karius stop gaps as none of them can break into Klopps starting 11. Even Matip has been called a stop gap by Ed 01. I also agree that we shouldn't have just bought a centre back for the sake of it and we need to identify the correct one to play our system and improve us. What I don't understand is how Klopp and his coaching / scouting team only identified VVD as that only player in world football. We held out for the whole window and never actually put an official bid in. This is not a Klopp out post as I love the guy but he and some of the players are not bullet proof whilst others always seem to carry the can.

15 Oct 2017 09:12:12
FWIW, Id be far more concerned if we weren't creating chances than I am about not finishing at the moment. The tide will turn, the goals will come.

15 Oct 2017 21:13:30
Jayden, Ed has explained the reasons why VVD was the only one Klopp wanted. You can disagree with that BUT that is the reality as we all know that good CB's are rare and those who have them DON'T sell. The reason I believe that Klopp just could not find a viable option apart from VVD was that even City w/ all their money, needed a CB and had to settle (that's right, settle) for Johnny Evans. Do you want Johnny Evans at LFC? I don't. The thing is that you don't have to agree with a decision to understand the reasoning behind it.

Klopp's reasoning is backed up by facts as LFC have spent years buying players who are poor just to fill a need and we all complained about it. Klopp has stopped that and people are still mad. Klopp is not bullet proof and I have my gripes with him as well (tapping up, late subs., GK rotation for no reason, Migs should be canned etc? BUT I don't slate him w/ o understanding the reasons behind his decisions. That is the difference btw m and many on here who just think things ar black and white with no grey areas of which in footie, there are many. It is what it is, I'm afraid.

16 Oct 2017 20:41:20
Good reply that Bingo. Only just realised you had replied to my comment yesterday mate otherwise I would have replied sooner.

14 Oct 2017 21:15:49
I think given the season thus far today was better than expected.
Typical Mourinho but hey he is a pragmatist and won't change.
I always thought we would not be able to beat De Gea as our finishing and decision making is poor.
Fantastic to get a clean sheet and to be honest I feel this was Mourinho accepting his team probably aren't good enough to go toe to toe, particularly without Pogba.
Lukaku first big test, came up short, if he'd played for the dominant side today he would have scored.
I still feel the quality of the league is poor as City are vulnerable at the back but there's no one laying a glove on them. Utd will be top 3 as they have the power to dispatch the poor sides and will draw away against the better ones.
We need a striker in Jan plus VVD and e can also finish top 4. Thought Salah was immense today, apart from taking the ball off Coutinho's foot when he was certain to score.
Our problem remains against the other dozen or so not the top 6. I expect us to beat Spurs next week, 4 Pts from 6 in these two tough fixtures would be more than acceptable.

14 Oct 2017 22:04:24
Spurs will not be easy, my friend. But on your post, I propose that people get used to this type for football from Mou when Utd come into town. This is the new normal and though we had chances, we were a bit disjointed in the final third. We are tied with Chelsea and Arsenal on points and are 4 off of Spurs so we are definitely in the mix for top 4. The title? I say we put that on the back burner for now.

{Ed025's Note - i agree bingo..

14 Oct 2017 22:05:11
You are happy with a draw tonight while fully confident we would beat Spurs lol! Hindsight is a good thing as well hope, But football doesn’t work on these two I am afraid. Spurs are one of the most complete team in England! World class at the back and has the best striker in England up top! You seriously expect us to beat them 😂😂😂😂😂. FYR, Harry Kane is not Lukaku! He is a real striker!

14 Oct 2017 23:14:02
Yeah Spurs will be very difficult, tbh I expect nothing out the game, anything more is a bonus. They are top quality with a great manager, they will get top 4 and will be a hard game, a very hard game, credit where credit is due, we can't be blind and say we're going to steam roll them because we wont. If we win, fantastic, but it won;t be easy.

14 Oct 2017 23:17:09
I do, super Harry didn't score today v Bournemouth and today was their first home win. do your research Kane is scoring away not at home.

15 Oct 2017 00:11:50
You can't write him off sonofklopp, he's in great form, give him a chance and he'll put 1 + past us, with our defence it's not hard to do mate. Just because he didn't score against Bournemouth doesn't mean he won't against us. I'm not saying he will, we can't possible know that, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he did.

15 Oct 2017 04:39:21
If Spurs are such a complete team then why have they won nothing?

Maybe try actually supporting your team, nothing is won in October.

15 Oct 2017 06:59:55
I'm not writing him off, merely presenting the current form and stating Spurs are still struggling to come to terms with the Wembley factor, other teams enjoy playing there.
Lukaku was supposed to score easily against us as well but that never happened.
Sure Spurs will go at us but we've dominated them at there place the last two seasons and only got a point, we are due an away win against them.
I'm not suggesting all our problems have gone overnight, merely that we are still a threat in those against the top 6.
Well those who actually come out of their own half and play 😜 Mourinho's 9 strikers turned into 9 defenders, he's such a wind up merchant.

15 Oct 2017 08:05:19
Sono and Corleone are both correct. Spurs don't like playing us as we are the ONLY team they struggle against. In fact, they are yet to beat us in 5 years in all comps. (9 PL games) and at Wembley, it won't be easy for either team BUT esp. for Spurs. It will be a good game and I back our team to win PROVIDED we can keep it tight at the back and keep an eye on Harry Kane.

Harry is correct that Spurs are one of the most complete teams in the league and YES, they are yet to win a sausage since Poch has been there (he's been there longer than Klopp), Two things can be right at the same time.

{Ed025's Note - im a big fan of poch bingo, he may not have won anything yet but his team play lovely football and surely its only a matter of time..

15 Oct 2017 08:42:22
Klopp pep pooch Wegener conte and koeman play football no matter home or away Jose s a winner but my god it's shocking to watch . Sly sports may stop there stupid week build up of liverpool v man u because yesterday and last year is the future they should show just 1 minute highlights.

14 Oct 2017 19:45:47
Ok, here's the United perspective from me. I may be wrong but hey, it's my view.

We looked completely knackered today, you were the better team and if it was a boxing match theen you were clear winners. However, looking at other results it has been a strange old day all round so maybe the international break had something to do with it.

As for today, I thought we did ok in the first half. We took the sting out of the game and pressed high, this wasn't parking the bus. However, in the second half we were pretty shocking, the worst I have seen us play all year. We had no legs in central midfield and nobody on the bench to come help. But a point at Anfield is ultimately ok, particularly when Arsenal and Chelsea both lost.

Your issue isn't today's game, it is the one we had last year, playing well against "lesser" teams but not putting them away. If you don't fix that then the season will be a struggle.

City are on a different planet right now and it will take something special to stop them. But I don't see anybody else to fear. I think City will win it with United second, probably Spurs third and fourth is a cat fight.

Well played today, you deserv d more than a point but hey, that's how it goes.

14 Oct 2017 20:13:26
Good comment that AJH.

14 Oct 2017 20:24:26
Jose bottled it pal! He knows we are weak at the back but he still bottled it de gea was the difference other then that it was 93 mins of Liverpool! I've gained some confidence today! As for Utd they're 1st real test and u where muck I expected goals and a game today I got neither!

14 Oct 2017 20:24:49
Couldn't agree more with your post mate, and I do believe the biggest problem today with results was down to the internationals, everybody's lethargic, they need to get back into the swing of things again.

I enjoyed the game, usually I wouldn't say that with there been no goals, gutted we didn't finish off the chances we had though, I can't quiet grasp why we're not finishing as we should but I do think the tables will turn and we'll start to do so. Question is, when? This concerns me a little.

I know Man City have had some fantastic results and all, but personally I just can't see them keeping it up, maybe I'm wrong and they'll fly to the title but to me, I don't think they will, I think many teams this season will be close to getting that title, You fellas, Chelsea, City, Spurs, who knows dare I say, if we start scoring maybe even us ;)

The season is still very early, thing's change, teams get in good form, then maybe have a bad period, this is football. Look at Everton, I wouldn't expect how they've started and I'd of thought they will pick things up again, surely? not that I'm moaning, they can keep down there for me (sorry ed25 :) ) But they won't.

For the record though, overall I am happy with the point because in the back of my mind although I was predicting a draw all week, I was scared stiff you'd go and beat us so a draw does me just fine. A win was deserved in my opinion but nevermind, we'll save that for when we come to OT ;)

14 Oct 2017 21:40:23
United won't be 2nd that will be spurs united will drop out of the top four again, they stated great last season, fell out, they're no stronger than last season bar the addition of matic and a better PR team.

14 Oct 2017 22:09:43
Mou seems to be uninterested in playing against us and Klopp at Anfield. I simply do not know why. They were the form team and were HEAVY fav's to win today and they come out there and simply just refuse to play, almost. Well, if that is what he wants to do then so be it. He should simply not be surprised when people think he's scared of Klopp or accuse him of playing stoneage footie after spending near 300m since last season on players.

14 Oct 2017 22:19:50
JBLP, haha wishful thinking.

14 Oct 2017 22:46:02
Jblp, poor banter.

14 Oct 2017 23:18:03
Bigored it's not only against us or klopp, I'm just shocked to see you know very little about mou especially with your knowledge of footy.

This is how mou plays against top teams, He has been playing like this since he started his managerial career and has served him really well bringing him lots of trophies and success.

14 Oct 2017 23:21:15
What 'banter' was there? United started very well last season, where did they finish? Spurs have a better team, have been tested while united stumbled over their first challenge, no 'banter' what so ever just a informative opinion but don't worry lads I'll tell you United will win the treble if it makes you feel better, won't happen like but tell stop you's moaning.

15 Oct 2017 04:41:34
JBLP, Utd will finish top4 comfortably. If u look at that logic, we too stumbled mid way through the season while Jose won 2 trophies. Whatever the discussion, majority will agree that Utd have a better and more balanced team than we do and will comfortably finish above us.

15 Oct 2017 06:48:01
“. Mourinho scared of Klopp 😂😂😂😂😂😂. ”
Someone needs to Star those lines and pin at the top of this page!

15 Oct 2017 08:11:34
Kopite7, I do not disagree with that. He is free to play how he wants to play just as I am free to critique it and make fun of it. That is all I'm saying.

Harry, YES Mou is scared of Klopp cos Klopp owns him and has embarrassed him in the CL with BVB and Klopp smashed him at Chelsea and helped get him sacked. Klopp also owns him in the head to head battles and is yet to beat Klopp in the PL. Maybe cos he is actually scared of him so he parks two buses or relies on the ref to bail him out (like he did last season at OT when the assistant blatantly ignored an offside on Valencia that led to the equalizer) Fact! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

15 Oct 2017 13:04:07
Quite honesty nobody bae Manchester City will make the top 4 'comfortably' some good teams are dropping points left right and centre, of the top6 last year united had the easiest start to the season, they have done well so far but their first challenge and they didn't exactly rise to the challenge, they didn't even challenge, kind of just waited for it to be over. Not saying wel make top 4 by any means but the top 6 apart from city winning it, will be close. United were lucky yesterday, the referee was scared to whip the yellow cards out and refused a penalty. Liverpool lack bite but united performance was toothless, Alex ferguson wouldn't ever have approached such a big game in such a feable manner.

14 Oct 2017 15:07:51
Hey Ed02.

This my first post hope that you can answer me.
My question is are there any potential owners who are very serious in buying Liverpool amongst the ones that Macca did'nt want to mention. any of them close.
Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any patata1.}

14 Oct 2017 18:21:58
With the uncertainty due to brexit I don't think any club purchases will take place until everything's settled too volatile a market.

14 Oct 2017 15:28:26
Just like to thank ed025 and keg for sorting em a ticket! Before the game most would have took a point but seeing the game I am slightly disappointed but ah well that's football. The talk of a striker as much as I agree, we would have to play 442 because losing bobby would cost the team! Again thanks to the true blue and the true red for helping me out! Cheers fellas proper football fans!

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

14 Oct 2017 17:50:16
No problem jb, shame result wasn't a more positive one but can't fault performance too much. someone is going to be on the end of a hiding from us soon. I feel it.

14 Oct 2017 14:22:20
I know Jose would bottle it and come for a draw.

{Ed025's Note - typical jose im afraid superred...effective but boring..

14 Oct 2017 14:25:46
Palace and Burnley both gave us a better go. United are miles away from city. Lukakau was as poor as expected too. Hopefully at least the ridiculous United hype can settle down.

14 Oct 2017 14:39:22
True ed025, I'm glad we didn't lose. I hate losing to utd more than I love beating utd. Does that even make sense? I just can't handle losing to them. These games are going to get a reputation for being boring rather than explosive.

{Ed025's Note - while jose is at utd they will mate..

14 Oct 2017 15:57:53
Lukaku is always poor against us. Lovren seems to be able to shut him down.

{Ed025's Note - lukaku is a flat track bully mate..ok against the lesser sides..

14 Oct 2017 22:30:27
Jose is Tony Pulis with loads of money. End of story.

{Ed025's Note - that is a terrible slight on tony pulis bingo..

15 Oct 2017 08:13:03
My bad, Ed25.

14 Oct 2017 14:15:46
Yet more evidence that we are missing a striker.

I know this is an unpopular view on here but it's blindingly obvious. We are not clinical, we lack players with the correct movement in the opposition box and the natural ability to put the ball in the net.

Same performance as we have had for weeks and weeks. Klopp doesn't have the answers. His only response seems to be to chuck on strikers at the 80th minute every week and hope for something.

14 Oct 2017 14:25:13
I completely agree.

If we had a natural goal scorer like Kane we win that football match and many other games previously this season.

14 Oct 2017 14:34:25
Completely disagree. Our players know how to put the ball in the net (other than Salah maybe; ball could be set on the goal line and he'd bend it out for a corner) . I have to wonder if our attack producing so many chances makes our players less clinical; when in front of goal they don't make the most of chances cause they know there'll always be another chance. I don't know how else to explain players being so wasteful.

14 Oct 2017 14:57:51
I agree United were poor and there for the taking but that's 1 win in 9 games now. this is just my opinion tactically i think klopp is brain dead he's got his system and won't change it while mane is out drop courtinho back leave 1 of the CM out and play sturridge or solanke. were the home team and need a win yet we only make subs in the73rd minute are we going to say every week--oh only if we had taken our chances--it weres thin after a while.

14 Oct 2017 18:31:00
Come on De Gea pulled off a world class save, not many keepers would have saved that.

{Ed025's Note - only one though ron, you were against a side who had no will to win yet achieved very little in the final 3rd mate..

14 Oct 2017 19:26:07
Point is 25, it wasn't lack of a striker that stifled us. It was a tactical kop out by Jose and a world class keeper got him the draw he didn't deserve.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that it was awful to watch because of uniteds tactics ron, but to be honest you need to create more and certainly be more clinical in front of goal, a decent striker would certainly help because bar for one very good save de gea had a picnic, your midfield trio move the ball too slowly for me as well, too much sideways stuff and not enough vigor i feel mate..you can blame jose as much as you want but its up to liverpool to find a way..

14 Oct 2017 19:37:49
I agree with Ron here 25. If that had of went in the UTD would have came at us instead of sitting back and this would have created space for our players. I'm not saying we would have went on to win but we would of had more chances.

{Ed025's Note - but it never so you didn,t dom, the world is full of wudda cudda shudda scenario,s mate but in the end liverpool were just not good enough to break down a resolute if exceedingly boring typical jose team..

14 Oct 2017 20:42:08
Ron we can't continue to blame opposition players and managers every week. Liverpool have a problem in front of goal. It's obvious.

Like 25 days De Gea make a world class save but really it's all he had to do all game. Our shooting is wayward and our midfield play is slow.

We need a forward that can score goals and we need a midfielder that is different to the 3 we have now who are all very similar.

{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way navy..

14 Oct 2017 14:12:03
So the final three playing staff we are taking to the Intergalactic cup are three strikers. I will offer up Harry Kane who continues to do well, Sergio Aguero who offers something different and Paulo Dybala who is far more adaptable than either of the others - so offers options.

14 Oct 2017 14:49:41
With Messi and Ronaldo in the team, I think scoring won't be a problem. The striker the team needs IMO is one that will work hard and create options for those two.
I'll go with Benzema, who I think is one of the most intelligent strikers in the world. He has the ability to adapt to whoever he plays with and that's why he's still with R. Madrid
Secondly is our own Bobby Firmino. How many strikers have the ability to press and create spaces/ chances for others to exploit. A fantastic player.
Thirdly is Harry Kane. Good off-the-ball movement, good finishing.

{Ed025's Note - bobby is a good player but never a striker mate, he pussy foots about too much and wears bananas instead of boots..

14 Oct 2017 14:52:41
Suarez, Lewandowski and Kane.

14 Oct 2017 15:20:33
Lewandowski, Suarez, Aguero.

14 Oct 2017 15:52:41
Dybala, Aguero and Suarez.

14 Oct 2017 14:32:23
Can't believe u missed out Suarez Ed002. Would have to be Suarez, Lewandowski and Dybala for me.

14 Oct 2017 16:50:48
Lewandowski, Gabriel jesus and Suarez.

14 Oct 2017 17:01:03
Ed025, I know most favour out and out strikers ala Lewandoski, Kane etc.
For me though, with Messi and CR7 as part of this team, two players that won't track back, I want strikers that would sacrifice cos I don't want 3 players up front not tracking back.
Would've gone for Dybala, but he won't work well with Messi. Suarez and Lewandoski would've to sacrifice part of what makes them good to accomodate CR7 and Messi.
Benzema and Bobby though can play their normal game and the team would still be balanced.
So, for me. Bobby and Benzema. I added Kane as the 3rd cos I'm impressed with his finishing.
And I know there are 23 players and different persons can play, but I'm assuming Messi and CR7 will ALWAYS play, so get the strikers that fit.

{Ed025's Note - benzema is a whole lot of trouble realtofel, i pesonally would not touch him with a barge pole mate, even though he is a very talented player..

23 Oct 2017 17:27:34
Suarez, Lewandowski and Kane win out and we move on to the two coaches. There is no need for an out and out manager - what you need are good coaches. New post coming up.

24 Oct 2017 18:20:22
Where did the intergalactic manager post go Ed002 mate?

{Ed033's Note - It's pinned as the last post on the Liverpool banter page (the first banter page) = intergalactic manager post

14 Oct 2017 11:55:02
Is Robertson a figment of our imaginations? Does he even exsist?

14 Oct 2017 11:16:27
What does everyone believe we need to take over this next 7 days. Utd, Maribor and Spurs. Maribor is a must win for me, anything but 3 points and it's a disaster. If Klopp and the fans still believe we are title contenders then 6 points is a must (due to previous results), if we are solely challenging to get top 4 then 4 points from the 2 league games is a minimum. So going off that basis a minimum of 7 points or max of 9 this week for me. However realistically we could end up with just 3 or less.

{Ed025's Note - 7 would be good jayden and i believe thats what you will get mate..

14 Oct 2017 11:41:33
9 points no problem 😀👍🏼.

14 Oct 2017 12:32:14
I'll take a draw against United.

14 Oct 2017 08:55:17
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Midfielders - Part 1

14 Oct 2017 08:56:34
There you go Harry, any good?

14 Oct 2017 09:14:27
You must be quick at typing mate. Will read this later on today, thanks for your time doing it and to Harry for requesting it.

Ed001, just a message to you mate, all these articles you are doing are fantastic and I really enjoy reading them so a huge thank you for doing them, I've not been on a website before where somebody has put so much of their time and effort in at the request of others.
Your knowledge of the game is absolutely incredible and the way you put it into words even more so. You said something the other day something like the longer your articles are the more people don't want to read them, or something on those lines. The longer the better mate I like to learn, I love reading something new, your work provides exactly that. So probably for the 100th time this week, Thanks mate. :) Have a good day!

{Ed001's Note - maybe the key is to provide a mix of short, medium and long articles to please everyone? Most people do tend to turn their nose up on the net to anything longer than a couple of paragraphs. Maybe you are just a more discerning reader?

As for putting the time and effort in to fulfil requests, I look at it as what I would want if it was me visiting. You see millions of websites out there that just want to take advantage and clickbait people, they are not what I want from a site. So I try to provide the service I would like to get from websites I visit. I am just glad people appreciate the sites and enjoy reading what I produce.}

14 Oct 2017 09:35:08
Yes I know what you mean mate, though I love the longer ones any of them is good for me.

Yes exactly, before I discovered the site, you see links here, there and everywhere, and it is exactly that, clickbait or the vast majority is anyway. Same as a lot of youtube videos as well, all to get their views and if it's not youtube it's twitter if its not twitter its facebook sharing all these links to so called articles, load of rubbish if you ask me but maybe that's just me. Massive credit to you for been part of the very few legitimate writers on the internet, these days there's not many.

{Ed001's Note - thank you, it can be hard at times, especially over the winter period as page views drop off and so you have to rely on money saved up over the summer, but it is worth it to keep my self-respect intact. I just wonder how long before the bubble will burst on the clickbait stuff, people will surely, eventually, hopefully, see sense and stop clicking on it! Then everyone will have to write decent readable stuff to get a click.}

14 Oct 2017 09:56:12
Hello Ed01, Thanks for the article. Impressive. You covered all the three areas in the deep of the midfield where we are currently struggling big time. I was thinking about Pep using Fernandinho to great effect this season. He is slowly becoming their backbone. I will share your article to couple of other groups. I want you to name 5 best players in their position.
I believe the next part is about CM, ( Traditional Souness to more classic Zidane / Carzola )

You should have ended the article comparing our current team to 08/ 09. Not much difference in fact our current personals are better than what we had back in 08/ 09 except the two in the middle who set the tone for everything . Alonso and Mascherano. Football is always won / loose in the midfield. We often neglect this area of the pitch and improve the front and back.

This article will open up people attitude towards midfiefd and midfielders.
Slightly out frok the topic I want to hear from you on Jan Molby. What was he?

Good job and good luck!

{Ed001's Note - I was trying to keep the article from becoming Liverpool-oriented and leaving it open mate. I tend to end up doing so much Liverpool stuff it makes a nice change to open out a bit.

Jan Molby was a playmaker, the most immobile one of all time but also one of the best. When they told him he was a central midfielder Jan took it literally and never moved out of the centre circle.....}

14 Oct 2017 10:25:28
In regards to Guardiola's more traditional use of a full back this season where Walker stays back to basically form a back three, I'd just like to ask, didn't he do something similar with Barcelona? If I remember correctly, he would have Abidal holding with Puyol and Pique, Busquets in front and Alves bombing on. I feel like Guardiola does overcomplicate the game unnecessarily and it's interesting to see him go full circle back to what originally worked with his style of play.

14 Oct 2017 10:54:54
Spot on, Zpecialone. Pep seems to want to be known as some kind of revolutionary and wanting to reinvent the wheel in football. He constant tinkering with players, tactics, schemes and formations is what has led to his failure to get Bayern any further in Europe and I remember some of the players constantly complaining about things of this ilk. Football is a simple game BUT it is certain managers or in this case "philosophers" that make it way too complicated.

15 Oct 2017 08:52:00
Will it ever burst? I don't know mate all I do know is I stay clear of them kind of thing's now, not only is it clickbait half of them kind of links have viruses as well, or are totally unrelated to what it's even titled.

What annoys me really is, due to people clicking on these daft links all the time, it puts their website ranking up, so they become let's say popular websites, more subscribers on youtube (somehow), more followers on twitter or more likes on facebook, again, somehow, over what? useless content. To me they are targeting youngsters more then anything because they are so gullible.

We can go on about fake internet articles/ videos all day long but another example, kids these days watch all these vloggers on youtube again the majority of which are full of absolute rubbish and it's click bait ' BIG LIVERPOOL TRANSFER NEWS, MUST SEE! ' kind of thing, you click on it and it talks about absolutely nothing but garbage, about who 'may' be available next year, what a load of utter nonsense.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way anyway.

14 Oct 2017 07:48:11
Good morning all, hope you all have a great day and enjoy the match :)

{Ed025's Note - that will depend on the result corleone..

14 Oct 2017 07:55:47
Indeed mate, I'm trying to stay positive, I'm hoping we can get a couple in during the first half hour otherwise I won't be able to chill out lol.

{Ed025's Note - good luck with that..

14 Oct 2017 04:44:59
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Previews Saturday 14th October 2017

14 Oct 2017 07:25:52
Excellent as always, thank you Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}