Liverpool Banter Archive May 14 2015

14 May 2015 20:05:14
Should Brendan Rogers go?

Yes.

When he was first appointed, I was mildly excited. A young manager with an exciting and what appeared to be a well thought out footballing philosophy and had done well at Swansea. With the resources available at Liverpool how well could he do for us? But time has shown us it was nothing more than Spin and an arrogant belief/stubbornness. Where has it gone wrong for him?

1) Strange tactical decisions. Even during last season when we were doing well, he made some confusing match game decisions. At times we needed to press and would take off an attacking player and replace with a more defensive minded person and vice versa. Players being played out of position, wrong formations etc.
2) Choice of signings. As the manager he must take responsibility for the purchases. If he disagreed he should have the skill, strength and character and argument to convince the committee why not. He has a way that he wants to play and with that in mind he should only have bought players that fit his philosophy. He will be judged by the outcome of the season not the committee. Not only were some of the players chosen questionable but also we were not addressing the areas where we needed to strengthen. Other people have written about the players here so I will not repeat this and the amount of money squandered.
3) The players bought have not performed to the level that Brendan can reasonably expect. Some of this is down to injury but most of it due to poor management, poor tactical awareness, playing out of position and players being asked to play a way that does not utilize their strengths but nullifies them and knocks their confidence.
4) Lack of courage to admit when things have not worked out and implement a new strategy. Defensively we have always been weak under him and his quotes to the press about a defensive coach have come back to haunt him.
5) PR nightmare. What an embarrassment he is to LFC. I cringe when I see his interviews. How many times can one put their foot into their mouth? But I also feel that as a club Liverpool are also to blame for allowing him to repeatedly embarrass himself and the club.
6) People claim that he is great at developing players and indeed even Gerrard today was singing his praises. However I cannot see real evidence of this as I see far more players playing below their natural ability than players excelling. Can Rogers really take the credit for performances from Henderson or Sterling?
7) Finally results. Above I have simply expressed my opinion, which people may or may agree with. However results speak for themselves. Yes we came second last year but that was a disappointment and we should have won. He has won nothing and we are not moving forward. We do not know what our best team is, formation or even individual positions.

However, the big question is who would want to replace him? We need someone who commands the respect of the players and who can attract good players and convince them to join us over the top 4 teams. This is a real problem but I do not believe that we should hold on to Rodgers simply because there is no obvious replacement currently available. Failure should not be rewarded or tolerated. I am sure that most managers could come in to Liverpool and with the current crop of players do a better job than Rogers, instill some confidence in the players and team and bring some respect back to LFC.

We need to act quickly and bring someone in and give him a chance to work with the team over preseason and give us a chance of starting the season strongly.

14 May 2015 22:02:13
Go now !

14 May 2015 22:20:02
klopp, ancelotti, bielsa, frank de boer, rafa(yes I said it, the man that made gerrard reject offers from real madrid)

14 May 2015 22:59:13
What annoyed me the most is after a thrilling season of twin strikers and Coutinho/Sterling thriving behind them, we completely switch it up, buying multiple competing attacking mids and lumbering strikers to try play a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1? It's almost as if last season's success was despite Rogers who clearly to play a different way, and Suarez's departure was an excuse to go back to what he really wanted do all along. I'll take last season thanks!

15 May 2015 02:18:41
You lads needs to accept that Rodgers will be LFC manager next season.

15 May 2015 03:22:34
Zimbo is right. We almost won the league in spite of BR and not due to him and this season is proof of that regardless of how much his apologists here and in the media wanna spin it. The system you alluded to has always been his system and had he not listened to Bielsa, where would we be? Not a chance at winning the PL and BR would prolly have been fired. We have seen his system fail over and over again and this season just shows that we have a manager whose system is a failure and doesn't have a clue.

15 May 2015 07:51:04
Why would we need to accept that, Ron? He might be, he might not be- I could easily see it going either way.

15 May 2015 09:23:30
Did Rafa convince Gerrard? Thought Gerrard just couldn't leave?

15 May 2015 09:32:25
He's not going to be sacked, I know that.
He could resign due to some unforeseen circumstance but that's pretty unlikely.

15 May 2015 10:15:18
Dont understand why people want rafa back.

Yeah he gave us good moments but the last 2 years we were going backwards.

He may have managed to keep hold of gerrard but this is also the man who made Alonso leave because he wanted barry.

As dalglish has shown its never good going back

15 May 2015 11:08:23
How can you say the last 2 years we were going backwards under Rafa?

I completely agree we went backwards in his last season. However his second to last season, we finished 2nd with a record number of points for a runner up.

Also the phrase 'It's never good going back' Tell that to Jose.

I'm not supporting Rafa to join, I want De Boer. Just think it's a tad harsh to completely write him off.

15 May 2015 11:13:23
And how would you know that Ron, when the owners probably haven't made up their mind?

15 May 2015 13:12:33
Audiogorilla

Apologies on the last two seasons it was only the final season then.

But come on even though rafa didn't get the players he wanted occasionally he still wasted a hell of a lot of money.

Aquaillani buying him injured what's that all about.

Also the reason we finished 2nd was because rafa refused to play Keane and kept playing ngog upfront with the understanding it was because rafa didn't want Keane.

I remember against hull I think that season was it 2-2 at half time he brought ngog on instead of Keane, what is ngog going to do.

16 May 2015 02:27:04
Ron prolly posts wishful thinking after wishing upon a star and projects them as fact.

14 May 2015 18:41:20
I was regarding the comment on Rodgers and the answers of Ed 001, and since I have a time I'll vent on Rodgers and make a point over Ed001 managers.
I agree with almost all you're saying Ed01. Rodgers has to take responsibility for the silly spending in the wrong transfers (in most of the cases); for the mismanagement of some players (Agger, Lucas, Sahin, Smith, Borini, etc); for his awful mouth in press conferences; for being completelly stubborn with the starting XI, the playing style and the tactics, which lead to desperate solutions; for being unable to rotate correctly the team; for accepting a loss against Madrid like a little team; for being incapable of beating Basel and Ludo. whom? (away); for gambling against Besiktas, for being unable to win to one of the worst Man Utd in BPL, specially when it will have defined our next year's luck; for being a liar in stating that he will promote the academy while he prefer to bring Manquillo, Origi and Markovic and by letting on bench many academy players in easy games while risking Smith's future in a difficult Chelsea game; and principally for stating that we are on par with the 5th place after he told once and again that his process for BPL title will be of 3 years. Rodgers OUT.

By the way, in an ideal world I'll get Klopp. I also rate Emery very high, specially form his time at Valencia and the way he developed players in order to gain results and sell players to reduce the debt; he is also doing a good job at Sevilla too.
But I have to ask you ¿Why Bielsa? I know him very much, and I'm sure he is one of the best tacticians in the world and that his style and mentality ans innovation is completely on par with LFC's, and actually I love him, but he has three problems that may not be the like of the owners and perhaps of many of the fans, even some of this issues make me think twice about him:
First, Bielsa usually doesn't like to commit to long term contracts, so his plans are usually built for a short term (the only team in which he has managed more than 100 games is Bilbao with 113).
Second, is that he has a poor record concerning problems with players, fans and the club's directives. The story says he is called "El loco Bielsa" (bielsa the mad), because after he won his first titles at Newels in Argentina, he could play the Copa Libertadores, and in the first game they lost 6-0; after that the fans went to his home to bother and blame him for the loss, so he went out of his house with a grenade threatening the fans telling that if they don't left his home he will make it explode. Of course he wouldn't do anything of that, but it was a bizarre, bad looking way to take off the fans (by the way, he was runner up of that Libertadores edition). At Chile many directives, and even some people within the couching team wanted him out. At Bilbao, he had a great problem with the club when they were building a training installation, and at the end many players were asking for him out because of Bielsa's preferences (something that is similar to Rodgers), for his treatment to squad players, and to the hard trainings. Many players agree that he has some mad attitudes, which will cause possible instability at a club that is needing complete stability for the next years.
finally, is that he does not like to train with more than 22 players (actually that is usually one of his rules). And I know he has helped to develop some academy players, but with this issue he may hamper the progress that some players in our academy had been gaining when training with the senior players, and they will also have limited opportunities to show themselves outside the U21 games.
Pd: I'll cry for the next month (at least) after tomorrow's game; I'm not old enough to know well Dalglish, Rush or any other legend, so for me next week my greatest football idol will leave a great whole in my footballer heart. He is my last LFC childhood player, so it will be harder. (At least I expect we retain Lucas for 1-2 more seasons) . My life's regret will always be not seeing Gerrard play for LFC at Anfield.
Love this site

{Ed001's Note - I just love Bielsa's tactics and style of play, yes he is mad, but he is a mad genius. I know he wouldn't be a long term solution, but that is why you have someone from the coaching staff learning off him to take over.}

14 May 2015 22:32:26
I like the comments of Ed001. The Rodgers lovers do not.

Ed001 is clear on what the problems are. Managers and players are wary of joining Liverpool.

Much has been spent for little return.

The owners have stepped up to the table and spent. They must be horrified and mystified at the result.

They placed their faith in Rodgers. Anybody can make a mistake. This one has proved expensive.

I would urge people to listen to Ed001.

We need a manager to turn things around. We don't have Stevie G to rely on anymore.

Let us hope that FSG sit down and reflect on their business plan.

They would do well to consult ED001.

Because their present advice is not the best.

Pay top dollar for a manager, not players.

14 May 2015 22:36:04
That's all very well Ed, but that would ultimately be more changes when the club needs stability and also I don't see any of the coaches having the potential to step up.

14 May 2015 23:15:15
So what do you do then, Raoul? Continue on this spiral just because you are scared of instability? That shows a severe lack of courage and backbone, IMO. No offence, but if we allow BR to his guise, he will lead us into administration and NO players would wanna come here and we will be a mid table team for years and that would be fatal. Because something is hard does not mean it is not the right thing to do. We know who the culprit is and we know how he as nearly ruined our club both financially and footballwise. The question now is, how do we move forward and dare to dream and work for a better tmrw after having stopped the bleeding that said culprit has inflicted on us? That is where we should all be instead of being afraid to make hard decisions for fear of failure.

14 May 2015 23:33:45
How does a failing manager offer stability? If anything, they offer the opposite- players unsettled, the direction forward unclear, uncertainty for the future, performances lacklustre and missing a spark- basically all of which we are seeing right now. We're anything but 'stable' at the moment and I'd argue we need a managerial change in order to bring back stability.

15 May 2015 01:31:39
If we bring a GOOD manager, he might be able to see the high quality players with GREAT POTENTIAL that we have on the club. That new manager will Know that we just NEED 2 or 3 players with good EXPERIENCE; the first is obviously a top striker with 25+ years and with CL or at least EL experience, and PLEASE that fits our game style (NOT Ings, NOT Benteke, NOT Austin); a CM that can command the times of the game, that can create and strike goals and that can teach likes of Can, Chirivela, Brannagan, etc. Finally a Gk that really puts in danger Migs place; one that commands the defense and that has a better distribution.

15 May 2015 09:38:25
I think people here need a reality check. We haven't won the league for 25 years! I'll say it again, we haven't won the league for 25 years!

We're not falling from anywhere, we've been pretty poor for a quarter of a century. I wish people would stop acting in horror and shock at our league placing this season and performances, it's on par with how we've been for the last 25 years. Get a grip on reality.

I must admit, I am losing faith in Rodgers myself, but please, look at things objectively and stop pretending we're worlds away from where we've been.

15 May 2015 12:55:50
In all fairness ed001, there really isn't a "long term solution" in modern football.

{Ed001's Note - true.}

16 May 2015 01:13:51
With beilsa could he cause long term problems if he came in for 2 years person? Not negativity as such but after he leaves.are clubs better off or worse off?

{Ed001's Note - depends on the club. You have to prepare to build on his work if you hire a man like Bielsa. Bilbao never did that, they allowed player power to decide, as the players felt he was working them too hard with double training sessions. Many teams in recent years have shown that thinking was correct, as a number of teams have begun following that double training system and, after initially struggling, the players looks stronger, fitter and fresher at the end of the season.}

14 May 2015 18:05:01
Sorry post flipped

Hats off to Juve, magnificent performance over two legs. Big characters in that side, top men. A lesson for Brendan I would hope that if he could get over his aversion of employing players who might have been managed by someone superior we might get some experience in. Six of that team over thirty.

And unlike us turned up to play against Madrid not to roll over.

14 May 2015 18:59:38
Allegri is a proven manager who has won the Serie A title with both Milan and Juve while managing big egos like Pato, Robinho, seedorf, Ibra (the biggest of them all), Gattuso now Tevez, Pirlo, Vidal and Pogba and is about to manage a CL final. He`s a very humble guy who was given a chance at Milan after managing a mediocre Cagliari team to midtable in 2010 and won the serie A in his first season. He learnt fast and now look where he`s gotten. BR has a long way to go and it will take time if he keeps doing what he is doing.

14 May 2015 20:21:36
Juventus showed great character and composure. The tenacity in their play was outstanding.

14 May 2015 17:34:46
{Ed033's Note - Hilarious video sent in from God Created United.

14 May 2015 22:13:32
Surely the best laugh in the world .

14 May 2015 16:55:11
what is going on with everyone here on this forum

rodgers isn't going anywhere, he has so much backing its unbelievable so why are you all wasting your time talking about it.
he will be here next season. PERIOD!
so deal with it. if the fans hated him so much. why didn't they protest, oh wait. because it looks so bad on the club. well boo hoo.
liverpool aitn perfect and everyone knows its a sure way to get rid of someone.

so there are plenty of topics to talk about instead of going on and on about something that clearly is not going to be changed when you have players and ex players and pundits and journos singing rodgers praises.!

i for one already know he is not good enough for what liverpool need - I've already accepted another season of average joe syndrome. i suggest u all do the same

{Ed001's Note - who is backing him? Other than media I mean.}

14 May 2015 17:30:03
The owners. So far anyway. If they want to get rid of him what is there to wait for? The earlier the better and everyday passing with him in the job makes his position safer.

14 May 2015 17:32:44
i don't like talking bad about our managers but he really needs togo. i hope fsg have a good name togo for as i personally don't see klopp coming no matter how much i'd love him.

14 May 2015 18:18:32
PERIOD, so deal with it.
Exactly what I say to mrs mikey each month, right before something precious to me is broken haha

14 May 2015 19:07:07
How do you know it won`t be changed? Did the owners tell you that or did you imagine that ? If you think because the owners are silent means he`s being kept then you`re deluding yourself. On the contrary, the fact that they have said nothing, not even the dreaded vote of confidence, shows is an indication of how BR is worried about his job hence, litigating his case to his allies in the media who know him as a media minefield and virtually capable of keeping them in a job on his own with his daft comments. NOBODY knows what will happen but I can say that this was the exact process they went through with KK when they sacked him 6 months after that decision was made to do so. History is the only parameter to project the future instead of the drivel you just posted

15 May 2015 02:21:59
He will be manager next season, the decision has been made.

14 May 2015 15:20:43
I have given up now, i won't criticise Rodgers from now on. And i hope he is given enough time to continue his work as a Liverpoolfc boss. my icon today has command him and confirms Rodgers being the only better manager for lfc with how he praisees him. and from now, i wouldn't want Klopp, De Boer etc as it has proved that previous success doesn't guarantee success by becoming lfc manager. As many including ed001 has showned that, Rafa failed to emulate his vanlenciafc success here and is known for his political antics. the Klopp and co would also come with their bad side which would even be more painful to stomach. even if Rodgers wins nothing for the coming three seasons, he should be maintain. Although my best managers would always be R.Benitez, H.Shahata, P.Guadiola and J.K.Loew.

14 May 2015 16:07:42
So by 'your icon' i am assuming you are talking about stevie G unless i'm mistaken?

If that is the case then you are a prime example of why i will not be missing him too much and why i am glad he is leaving. If you really think the opinion of a player has more value than that of the manager himself, there's something horribly wrong.
I cannot stand the position of power and influence gerrard has created around himself at the club, nor can i stand it when fans sonehow think he is bigger than or has any opinion of merit about the manager, no matter how good or bad the manager may be.

14 May 2015 16:24:47
even if he wins nothing for the next 3 years com on get real this man is a joke

14 May 2015 17:00:58
Was that a windup or is your "icon" a broken crystal ball.

14 May 2015 17:22:04
Trying to understand what the 'bad side' of Klopp and co would be exactly? He's a good manager with a good record and is clearly passionate about the game. I don't think he'll necessarily end up here by any means, but hypothetically speaking I don't really see any bad side to bringing him in.

14 May 2015 18:48:05
I'm not the only one who's reading that as sarcasm directed at Stevie G over his endorsement of Rodgers, right?

14 May 2015 19:17:38
It was defo a windup then because what could be the bad side of a manager who is more proven and much better than the current one, coming to manage us. I don`t see the bad side neither did the OP mention it in detail hence, no bad side at all hence, a total windup comment.

15 May 2015 07:46:38
Maybe Stevie G wants BR in there for a couple more seasons so he'll be a shoo-in to return whenever he wants? Klopp on the other hand will be far harder to displace if he takes up to top 4 and after winning a few cups!

14 May 2015 13:34:54
HI eds
Ed001 don't you think that skrtel is a big problem for your defence, i have seen him many times out of position
and he doesn't communicate well with his teammates
thanks

{Ed001's Note - yes, I don't like him as a player at all. He drops too deep, never communicates with his team mates when he does so or when he suddenly makes a rash lunge out the other way. How is anyone meant to build a partnership when he offers them nothing to build on? He should be letting his partner at the back know when he is going out to make a challenge, or if he is dropping deep. It is long past time he was replaced.}

14 May 2015 13:43:37
Many of us have seen the very faults you and the Ed have mentioned yet can`t understand why many fans think he is our best defender.

14 May 2015 14:50:11
Not just fans, pundits too, ex players. He has put himself in the way of many goal bound threats, last ditch tackles and ones with full muscle which have tamed a few attackers out of the rest of the game, to be fair. He is not great, but not terrible. For every goal he's caused he has probably prevented three. Isn't he also an international captain? Scored a good few last season. Can't be that bad.

14 May 2015 15:07:38
Im with you max

Skrtel unlike most of our team Is willing to put his body on the line, I realise he only has himself to blame for having to do it but nevertheless he does it.

We need someone with skrtels physicality in midfield.

14 May 2015 15:51:38
He is not our biggest problem at all. Eds is right he can drop too deep and lack communication but last season alone you can't tell me he didn't save us on a few occasions, more so than the rest, and you can argue that's not all there is too it but its pretty important as a defender

14 May 2015 16:35:38
I think Skirts has earnt himself a place in the squad for next season. I wouldn't say he should be guaranteed starter, but having him on the bench and available for cup games and backup etc would be quite handy. He's never injured, always puts in a shift in, and even though there are flaws to his game, he's still a very good player to have.

I'd probably look to bring in a new right sided centre back as first choice.

Red Rum

14 May 2015 16:44:00
He costs us far more in lost points and goals than a defender at this level should.
Can't say he doesn't give it his all and that's probably why he has so many fans, that's just papering over the cracks in that he's actually a poor player that tries to make up for it with hard work though.

14 May 2015 17:24:00
Giving it your all should be a requirement for any pro athlete and not a quality nor a skill. Does Fonte not give it his all for the Saints? Yet he is far better than Skrtel. Does Sahko not give his all for LFC? Yet he is better than Skrtel. If he was that good, why did he need to be babysat in a back 3 just to accomodate his errors and prevent him from being exposed? If he was that good, why was he benched in the last 3 months of the '13 season for a 35 yr old, almost-retired Jaime Carragher? BR playing him all the time means nothing because BR wouldn`t recognize a very good defender if he slapped him in the face which explains why he wanted sahko sold which tells the whole story, really. Bottom line is you cannot defend as a unit in a back 4 when one of it`s CB`s is that error-prone, lacks positioning, drops deeper than his other defenders and gets bullied by big strikers i.e Benteke who toys w/ him everytime Villa plays us. he is not good enuff and I`ll be glad to see the back of him or used VERY sparringly

14 May 2015 20:40:59
The problem is that he makes a lot of last ditch tackles and the media, ex players, etc praise him for it. However, he makes these tackles because his positioning skills are below par. If he was in the proper position, he would not need to make a last ditch tackle as he would be able to mark the player and allow others to get back and clear the danger. He needs to be replaced in my opinion and I would like to see Sakho and Lovren given a real run together so they can build. I think Skrtel has contributed to Lovren's poor form and confidence as he has put him in poor situations with his bad positioning and lack of communication.

14 May 2015 23:23:26
Agreed, Red! Skrtel would make any top CB look bad due to all his flaws and his uncanny inability to communicate. People should use their eyes and minds to draw conclusions for themselves instead of regurgitating opinions from the media or pundits who gave theirs based on what they are seeing like everyone else.

14 May 2015 12:19:08
Would definately take Ings and Aubameyang if we sold sterling. Then use the money from other sales for other positions.

14 May 2015 13:47:19
Wouldn`t mind Aubameyang, tbh BUT I still think we can do better than Ings.

14 May 2015 17:16:19
Who would be your pick redohio ? Obviously being as realistic as you can. To be honest I agree with you , Ings is an ok player but not sure he's what we need .

14 May 2015 19:20:01
Son would be better and the Ed mentioned Austin from QPR but I`m not sure about him, either. Son would be my choice. Yours?

14 May 2015 20:12:23
I do like Son , also think Mauro Icardi would be a good player for us . Austin and Ings just don't seem like upgrades to me , but we're either to arrive would be happy to be proven wrong , to me Son with Sinclair Origi and Sturidge given the chance to grow and learn together could really work for us . The question is do we have time in this day and age with fast results wanted and needed to build or do we keep over spending hoping it works out . Thoughts ?

14 May 2015 23:29:38
Airs, I hear you, bro. This is where we have failed. Had BR used the youth players last season for cameo appearances after it was clear we would win the game, they would have gotten experience like Texeira, Ojo, Rossiter and the like. He did not do it because he simply does not believe in them and only uses them when all is lost, injuries or forced absences like we saw with Flanno, Wisdom, Ibe and even to some extent Sterling. We might not have the patience for now but with the right manager with the right attitude, approach and vision, these players will do well because this season has shown that the squad is good enuff for the top four or even for a title challenge. Comments?

14 May 2015 11:27:51
I don't know why everyone is so negative towards brendan Rodgers. Yes he has made mistakes and yes he can't hold an honest interview but he's only young.
Give the man some time.
I'm sure if he had the funds of a chelsea or a mancity he would most certainly become epl champions. If I took over at chelsea I'm sure I would win it with the money that has been dumped into that team.
Anyways eds great job u do.been looking at this website for years very very addictive

{Ed001's Note - you really are dreaming if you think you could win it with Chelsea, otherwise why did someone else win it last season? It is not as simple as having huge sums, it is about managing egos and choosing the right players to fit the system you want to play too. Rodgers is not learning from his mistakes and that is why people are on his back.}

14 May 2015 11:39:59
But doesn't he deserve a chance ed he's a very young coach. He's bound to make mistakes.everyone is just so quick to swap and change managers.

{Ed001's Note - he has had 3 years and the mistakes have got progressively worse! He has had his chance and been found so completely lacking in managerial skill that it is embarrassing.}

14 May 2015 12:26:15
You are all blindly insane! Have a look at what Chelski spent! Brendan must go. Last straw 4 me was the substitution and tactics against Chelsea in what was a must win game to at least keep the pressure on utd. He wanted to give Gerrard the ovation he deserves is absolute BOLLOX! Enough is enough stop being so blind. U will be telling me next that he needs time to settle in or adapt to a new system etc etc etc

14 May 2015 12:45:38
yeah but Ed01, we did nearly win last season and i don't think you could blame Rodgers for A slip. however, i think your right that he handled being on top far from perfectly

{Ed001's Note - for heaven's sake! We should have wrapped up the league regardless of one slip, it was Rodgers that took too long to change the system to get the best out of Suarez that cost us points. It was Rodgers insistence on playing Gerrard out of position as a DM that cost us so many goals and that ultimately cost us the title. It was not the slip that was the issue, it was far more.}

14 May 2015 13:16:41
Kizz is this your new alias Brendan? Shame on you. Even your posts are full of BS. Ed001 you are my hero. I didn't think I will have new heroes in my life at 60. Now everyone together call "Taxi for Rodger".

{Ed001's Note - it is a good job you can't see my blushes!}

14 May 2015 13:27:03
fair enough my dear ed01. I won't disagree with you. love the passion! I will say only Klopp for me would be a great alternative and not rafa! All that aside thanks for your feedback my good man/woman/bot!

{Ed001's Note - Klopp is probably out of reach, but if you don't ask you don't get!}

14 May 2015 13:48:11
I hate it when people blame it on Gerrard's slip. Brendan was tactically naive, simple as that.

14 May 2015 13:58:29
I couldn't agree more ed01. I believe FSG will remove Rodgers for the greater good of the club and team at the end of this campaign. I also think John Henry and his advisors will approach the right candidates at that time . hopfully Klopp.

Ed01 on another note. if you had to pick between Ings or Austin of QPR. who would it be and why?

{Ed001's Note - Austin, he is the better player and he is not too much of a coward to step up when needs be.}

14 May 2015 13:59:09
The apologists just can`t help themselves, Ed. I propose you let them wallow in their blind faith in a failure of a manager

14 May 2015 17:26:15
Not really sure why BR being 'young' is considered an acceptable reason for not achieving the desired results. Andy Carroll was only 'young', yet no one really had much of a problem with BR shipping him out.

14 May 2015 19:26:00
RDL, his apologists cannot fathom the sense you post because all they know how to do is deflect, and blame everything on someone or something else instead of the main culprit. reminds me of what a certain LFC manager does on a daily basis in the media.

14 May 2015 10:39:32
Hi guys, man Utd fan here.

Just wanted to ask your opinions including ed 001 on Cameron brannegan? His older brother and sister kane and kelly are close friends of mine but I wanted to see what you all thought about him.

Do you think he will make it at Liverpool in his current position? Does it bother you that he is a big United fan also?

{Ed001's Note - he should make it, he should be getting a run out in the final couple of games, as we have nothing to play for. He looks to have the quality required to make it with us, but he needs to be given a chance to do so. As for the team he supports, I couldn't care less.}

14 May 2015 11:14:44
Does it bother you rooney is a scouse Everton fan lol

14 May 2015 11:33:01
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I'm not a big fan of Rooney as it is lol I was just saying it as he may jump ship as he's a big fan.

I think he may end up at a smaller team, I hope he makes it but for some reason people tend to crave a foreign youngster especially in his position as he naturally is a number 10

I hope he makes it as I know his family but I think it will be somewhere else.

Slight warning tho, he's already racking up bad habits like gambling and being flash in regards to partying etc, I hope he doesn't fall down the wrong road

14 May 2015 11:47:24
Life of a young man is all a learning curve.
My first pay package I bought a lottery ticket a lacoste tracksuit and pair of reebok classic trainees like all the other biffs. I now have grown up with kids and shop at matalan lol.

14 May 2015 07:01:58
I noticed from some posts here recently that Andre Wisdom is coming in for a lot of stick lately. I myself would be more than happy for him to play as our RB next season. Defensively solid player. Be more than happy to go with him and Manquillo as RB options. Not sure why some wouldn't be happy.

14 May 2015 09:00:19
He's not good enough . Honestly . He's game and puts a lot of effort and commitment but ultimately I don't think he has the ability at he's feet

14 May 2015 09:51:29
I think he is a good squad player, and IMO it's between one of him or Flanagan. The modern day full-back needs to be comfortable on the ball, and be attack oriented, athletic and quick with ball at his feet, and neither of them are any of that. With Flanagan out injured, I would keep him in the squad for a year, and make a decision on both of them next summer.

14 May 2015 10:25:47
5ive I have to disagree with you and say that Wisdom is good enough. He is good on the ball and his passing success rate is always in the high 80's to low 90's. He looks to get forward support the attack and due to his pace can get back to cover. He is arguably our best defensive right back. For me, he should be in the squad next season, and be getting regular game time.

14 May 2015 11:00:56
I don't think we've seen enough of him in a Liverpool shirt to really judge him. He looked okay before though prone to errors though hopefully experience erodes those. To be fair I think the same could be said of Flanagan before he got in his extended run. Definitely worthy of the squad, the first 11 maybe he needs more time to develop.

14 May 2015 11:05:23
If he can't get into a Tony Pulis side then he could be good for us as we like to play good football and TP can't recoginse a good player

{Ed001's Note - Wisdom is so much better on the ball than people give him credit for, I don't where this fallacy came from that he is not, probably the same people who think Sakho is useless on the ball, because it is nonsense. The reason he was moved out to fullback in the first place was because he was good on the ball.}

14 May 2015 14:10:09
You have no idea about how Pulis and his dreadful tactics can get the worst out of players. Take a look at Stoke when he was manager. They were God aweful to watch and frankly, they would not look out of place in the Rugby League or the NFL. Now, look at how better they are with Hughes who has made them much better to watch with some of Pulis` own players playing better footie. Pulis is a very low bar, if not the lowest to use to judge a player`s ability under him.

14 May 2015 15:38:30
Ed, I was suggesting he's good and a good player, just in a sarcastic way because Pulis is a destroyer of good exciting football - so if TP ain't picking him then he might be a player.

{Ed001's Note - I was agreeing with you mate, I was referring to an earlier post by 5ive.}

14 May 2015 19:28:39
Me as well.

14 May 2015 00:58:35
i have to laugh at some fans who say lambert is too slow, he was the same player for southampton who scored goals for them he has not slowed down i'm sure if he had more game time this season he would have scored goals, if we say with old defenders like hyppia and carra that they were slow but they had the 1st few yards in there head with experience so that made up for it so why not the same with lambert, plus he could have been our plab B as we all know we never had any other plans so he could have been used for that, but he's too slow, harry kane is no speed master but look at the goals he has scored and with lambert we missed the boat because of his free kicks that he was great at but never used, some manager we have he has that ability on the bench and when we need to win games or when we have struggled a free kick from lambert would have settled it, a better manager would have know this and used it in games

14 May 2015 08:02:13
He's not been used to his strengths.

14 May 2015 08:41:35
Shouldve been played in the middle with two fast players off him!!! Southampton? Llalanna and Rodriguez? ? So why not do it at lfc!!!! Stirling and llalanna.

14 May 2015 09:30:29
Lambert was wasted with us, and i have to be honest i feel sorry for him. Time and time again we see players not getting regular games struggle. Like you said he should have been used differently and more often. He has real talent IMO. Great passing and unselfish play. Fantastic free kicks and penalty taker and doesn't get rattled. REAL WASTE

14 may 2015 09:53:32
lambert strengths are not used here at lfc by rodgers, but that doesn't take away the fact that lambert is very slow.

14 May 2015 10:31:34
Lambert's main problem was Lambert! Particularly at the start of the pre seaon when he missed the pen in America, he never really recovered from that. He played as if he didn't believe he deserved to be in the red shirt initially and so he started getting less game time off Brenda. Since then he has got better but you couldn't call him match fit as he has not played enough consecutive games to get that sharpness that you get from playing. As a consequence he is off the pace and looks slow and lethargic in play.
He should have seized the opportunity to go to Villa when he had the chance. I know that if it was me at that age, I would rather play than sit on the bench. even if it is for your boyhood club!

14 May 2015 11:07:03
Spot on StevieP. He shouldn't be the one leading the line as a target man he needs runners in front of him.

Red Rum

14 May 2015 14:14:25
He never led the line at the Saints hence, he was badly used by BR and this is why he has struggled