Liverpool Banter Archive July 14 2013

14 Jul 2013 22:26:44
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign highly rated Spanish youngster Pedro Chirivella from Valencia.Fee to be decided by a tribunal.Liverpool offering 2million.

Clee Red

How can we "agree a deal " to buy a player, yet not have "agreed" a price?
Hmm .

When we poach players like that it makes it hard to get pissy over Suarez's fee.

We can 'agree a deal' without a price because, presumably, he is a youth player without a professional contract, so we don't have to pay a fee to break the contract, which is roughly how a normal transfer works, but we do have to pay some form of compensation, which, if not agreed, goes to tribunal
It's the same process as when a player under 24 moves after his contract expires

14 Jul 2013 22:05:52
If Madrid are only willing to pay 25 million cash for Suarez then we should be demanding player(s) included into the deal.

Madrid have a lot of players who are surplus and would improve our squad in the process. Off the top of my head I can think of Alonso, Rodriguez, Coentroa and Higuain to name a few. Both Coentroa and Higuain would be the hardest to convince but we can only try.

I'd rate them value wise as Higuain (20-25 million, Coentroa (15-20 million), Rodriguez (5-7 million) and Alonso (10-12 million).

My preferred deal would be (if possible) Higuain (20-25 million) and Rodriguez (5-7 million) plus 10-15 million depending on the values.

This seems a viable deal for all, but convincing Higuain would be the major problem. Even if we couldn't convince Higuain I'd still try and get Rodriguez into the deal.

Bernard looks a good player and wouldn't mind him coming in Jorginho also looks promising. Eriksen and Alderweireld are musts for me given their price, Age and sell on value.

In that case we won't be willing to sell to Real.

no Eriksen. I want players who intend to stay at our club for more than one season

14 Jul 2013 21:57:34
Liverpool could make a surprise move for Swiss international winger Xherdan Shaqiri. The player is currently out of favour at Bayern Munich and could be sold to generate funds.

14 Jul 2013 21:18:05
well thiago gone to bayern. that's another one we have missed out on brendon

LFC tom

We wasnt even looking at him . Maybe united lost out . that's a different site mate.

Like he would have chosen us over united, bayern? And we didn't even made an approach

Chris

When on earth were we ever in for him?

I know so disappointing. First Neymar now this? WTF we're going to be relegated OMG.

Was never a subject

Stop it! Thiago was never leaving barca to come here. We can't miss out on players that will never come.

14 Jul 2013 22:35:36
Shut your face you clown he snubbed united to join Bayern so why do you think we have a chance?

ACHILLES.

14 Jul 2013 22:56:16
We weren't interested in the first place or we would of made a bid
Bobcat

We weren't in for him. Do you post this about every player that moves to a club that isn't Liverpool? It must get tiring.

Missed out on? If you were him and had the choice of us or Bayern who would you choose?

How can you even write that he wouldn't come to us to good champions league needed for any world cup hope

Ever heard the word sarcasm.

Have none of you heard of sarcasm. honestly he's making fun of how dumb some of these posts are

HaHa. I found in funny LFC Tom

I actually think Tom might have been joking.

Blimey, he got a few bites with that one.

Can't believe the amount of posters who fell for that.

MIKEY

14 Jul 2013 21:12:48
Hey Eds, I've been impressed Ebenezer Assifuah at the U-20 world cup. I imagine he'll have a queue of suitors now, any idea who might be in for him & if Liverpool might be one? Thanks a mil. {Ed002's Note - No idea.}

14 Jul 2013 20:41:31
Eds. maicon not wanted at city, assuming we couldn't afford his wages? Wouldn't be bad competition for Johnson very attacking full back (which br seems to like)

He is awful, why do people post stupid things like this, do you know anything about football?

How about Kelly, Wisdom, McLaughlin?

Maicon is not awful at all, i'm thinking before telling people they don't know football that make sure you know what YOU are talking about.

14 Jul 2013 20:28:50
With Thiago being bought by Bayern (bbc as source), will the large amount of midfielders reslt in a sale of any of them, Shaqiri/Luiz Gustavo for example? {Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

Shaqiri and Gustavo plus ten million be a bargain

Goal return? Can't be any worse than downing, Henderson, Allen, Lucas. Shall I go on.

14 Jul 2013 20:12:27
Lets get alonso back he will walk into any team in the world despite his age!

REDAN

Move on

Come on, you know he would be brilliant in this team. He'd be ace in any team in the world.
ND

And how much do we then pay for his replacement in a couple of years when he isn't up to speed and we can't get as much back for him? No one disputes his quality, it just isn't great business sense in my opinion and as a business, whether we like it or not, we have to be responsible and strategic.

Andy K

I agree snap him up immediately.

Alonso leaves us to win things at Madrid?

Suarez wants to leave to win things at Madrid or another team?

Alonso you would welcome back, yet LS who is still our player you have all turned on.

When did Lpool fans become like this.

14 Jul 2013 19:33:40
hey eds and reds, I for one am sick to death of suarez and can't wait to see the back. he is an exceptional player who was superb for Liverpool last season but since the summer started all he's doing is looking for his move away. Now he says Liverpool aren't good enough for him, I mean after all the support we have shown him during the evra incident the least he could do is show some respect to the club and stop with all these comments. I know if he stayed he would be great for us again next season but i'd rather get him out and get in a player or 2 who actually want to be here. I don't know if i'd be able to last another season of his antics.
I know there only rumours about bernard and shaquiri but players of this calibre would be great replacements for suarez!
Cheers eds and keep up the good work!

Quinner

14 Jul 2013 18:53:17
I think we should keep Suarez until the end of the first half of the season because with what he brings to the table is .CL contention to attract so called marquee signings. After that I feel would change our footing in offering .CL football to players who deserve this great club . I wouldn't make it that easy for him after how we stood by him during his indescretions. That would also be an incentive to play his best football.
SA RED

14 Jul 2013 19:28:27
By doing that he would be banned for more games than he would play.

Why you Liverpool fans being so deluded about Suarez get over it and move on

Great idea. I love listening to somebody that is payed good wages by our club slag us off everyday. The only place I would want to Suarez at Liverpool is in the reserves but obviously not feasible nowadays.

14 Jul 2013 18:43:32
eds, I'm a little concerned I think it was Ed002 that said suarez could still end up at arsenal. surely Liverpool would't sell him to them. if they do we will never get in the top 4. it would be madness for them to do it.
there must be other clubs in for him.

chrissy {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

Because Suarez got us in CL so therefore he will do the same for Arsenal. Oh wait.

Perhaps with Suarez Arsenal would actually have a chance of winning the Champions League as unlike us, they are actually in it.

If we sell to United's feeder club then we would be the feeder club to United's feeder club!

Because without Suarez's goals we would have been even lower in the table.

First reply is utter ridiculous, why would you expect just Luis to get us in the CL? he was the leagues top scorer so instead of being a smart arse why don't you look at others like Borini?

exactly your a moron.

14 Jul 2013 18:42:39
I'm not sure what's next in this window, whether we have to sell sketel and Reina first?

Thoughts?

We don't have to sell either. Both looking less likely than a month ago but neither move would be a surprise. Other deals not dependent on them moving though.

We sell skrtel, downing, assaidi, suarez and all the other expected tosh we will have bucket loads to spend.

Id expect/hope ffor muriel, papadopolous, eriksen, alderweireld, bernard, yilmaz and another defensive midfielder brought in if we get the money i'd expect to recieve, add to this our already up and coming youngsters and the addition of new ones such is the way with our academy, we will have an absolutely awesome team.

Anonymous woolback

Minus yilmaz and Muriel and add illori

14 Jul 2013 18:34:51
Ed, are we making erikson our no 1 target? Or do you know who the target is? {Ed002's Note - That is not how it works.}

14 Jul 2013 18:25:42
Is Eriksen a target. Seems to be a lot of conflicting messages {Ed052's Note - well. What have I said 10 times in the last hour?}

14 Jul 2013 18:13:35
Reality check for Liverpool fans regarding failure to land Bony and Wanyama-
To say Liverpool have better 'prospects' is a tad arrogant. Southampton have a conveyor belt of top youngsters with no signs of this letting up. Liverpools prestige and history are admirable, no question, but how much longer can a club rely on this. Liverpool don't have a divine right to sign players above any other team. They have simply missed the boat because their interest/offers weren't good enough for a deal to happen. 'Small' teams are signing players from under the noses of 'big' teams every day as the gulf gets smaller.
Everton and spurs are eclipsing Liverpool with more teams snapping at their heals. It's up to Liverpool to stop harping on about the past and face the reality of the present and future.

Everytime someone signs a player were not 'missing out' on them because half the time were not actually intrested in them

Liverpool weren't after Bony and Wanyama. Is that spelt right?


RD

We weren't interested in those players? We may have been linked with them but if you actually bother to scroll down the rumours page you will see we are linked with seemingly every player available! We cannot and will not attempt to sign them all you cretin - go troll on another site!

Swallybean

14 Jul 2013 18:33:55
What a complete joke of a post.
Or simply Liverpool actually had no offers or even interest and it was all paper talk.
Get your head checked immediately for believing the nonsense in the papers you gullible guy.
Didn't know we will sign 400 players.
Utterly tosh is a compliment!

Tosh, If we bid for them then we lost out! Its not rocket science mate .

Is it a full moon today?

Since when was we after wanyama and bony? Neither are better than what we got and would not move to sit on the bench

15 Jul 2013 00:11:28
Why do opther fans read our site? I would never read other clubs pages! Wanyama and bony went were the clubs were willing to pay over the odds prices, ya southamptonS, swansea, norwich and who ever r spending big because the extra tv money and dare I say try. To get to the next level, going to be interesting but look at qpr, but u never know, would be funny if moyes, martinez, mourinho all have proper bad seasons! We need to start well, and get the confidence going! 2013/14 will be the best and toughtest league in years! Got good faith in breNdan! COME ON REDMEN! Y.N.W.A!
Herbiehyde

14 Jul 2013 18:10:43
Any chances of Liverpool to look at Aguero to replace suarez, when he leaves? And what might be his value?

FaZzY {Ed052's Note - hahahahaha. KEN!!!!}

: Just seen our Ken in a taxi in Liverpool!

RedKopite

Hello Ed052,
according to you what is our best option to use the Suarez money (40 million pounds)?
I reckon the best way to use it would be getting in a CM (Eriksen), RW (Bernard) and if Downing is sold too for say 7 million then another winger like Nicolas Gaitan.
All available at a price, which will be pretty affordable with the sale of Suarez and Downing. {Ed052's Note - Im not too sure. I don't really know what i'd do with it. Kelly and Wisdom will be perfect for CB, so I wouldn't buy one of those, but if Agger goes, then I'd snap up Sakho. I would buy a LB, probably Cissokho, he has talked well of Liverpool. We don't need a CDM - Coady is good enough, and we have enough midfielder. I would then buy a winger, but I'm not sure who - as it would have to be a right winger. Then, we don't need anyone up front, as Aspas is a star - similar to Suarez, apart from he passes!!}

14 Jul 2013 17:46:40
Hi eds,

Read somewhere yesterday the we will be unavailing new signing this week, made out it woul be a key signing. Is there something about to happen or more speculation?

Ta

RedLee {Ed052's Note - Speculation}

14 Jul 2013 17:44:47
hi eds reds just heard on tv that ryan bertyrand is no longer a target for Liverpool and christen erikson not a Liverpool target, was bertrand ever a target of ours? thanks steviep62 godbless96 {Ed052's Note - Well, if he was a target, he was only a target from this morning, when the 'rumour' broke.}

14 Jul 2013 17:28:23
Hi Eds,

With regards to Luis Suarez and the Arsenal link, if he did join Arsenal what would be the point? Last time I check London was still in England, with the same press and with a team that have not won any trophy of any kind for a number of years. So why would he go there?

I for one will be glad to see the back of him. Hopefully out of England altogether and the sooner the better, so we can move on.

Marc {Ed002's Note - Like the story of the photograph he lied about, his excuse about the media holds little water when he wants to hear offers from all clubs in the Champions League - which is what this is really about.}

14 Jul 2013 18:30:52
Ed002, In your opinion will he stay and move to a English's club or get his wish and make the move to Spain (Real Madrid)

Marc {Ed002's Note - I would doubt that he will be playing his football in the EPL next season>}

Suarez will move to arsenal for champions league football he sees the gunners as a major force to come maybe who knows but one thing is for sure he will leave Liverpool ASAP

14 Jul 2013 22:02:22
Haha laughing at the idea of the gunners being a 'major force' how long is it since they've won anything?! Regarding CL they're always in there with no chance of winning it

14 Jul 2013 23:36:28
Major force? Ha ha.
Arsenals impact on the CL is like Rosenborgs & Helsinki BK. Lol.
He will never move there. Wages+Transfer fee+Ambition way out of Arse nal's league.
Go troll another site.
"The class acts who never win anything"

14 Jul 2013 17:13:28
Hi eds, Apperently were in to signing eriksen and toby alderwerild for 22 million. Any truth in this eds? {Ed052's Note -We've answered this. We have interest in both (to an extent) but I know of no bid. This rumour has been hanging about for a while now. However, a bid of that much would no doubt be accepted, and, be a very good deal for Liverpool}

It would be a grate deal two very decent players very very decent for 22 million usually cost that each go for it

Both are very good players at a very good price. I would like to see this happen as I cannot think of any players who are better than these two for the price being asked.

Marc

Yes it would be a good deal and only because the two players have 1 year left on their contract, otherwise the fee would be £32m for both of them.

14 Jul 2013 17:03:48
Hi Ed's, great site and grateful for all the work you put in. Who do you think we could genuinely sign out of the following players?:
Alderweireld
Atsu
Eriksen
Bertrand
Cissokho
Papadopolous
Yilmaz
Chadli
Jorginho
Praet
Benteke
Alonso
Digne {Ed052's Note - All (but Digne/Bertrand) are actually possible, each to a certain degree.
Alderweireld may be an option, as he isn't too expensive seemingly, and wants a move.
Atsu is cheap, and we've had talks about him.
Eriksen we have interest in, but its unlikely.
Bertrand perhaps, although I don't know of any interest.
Cissokho would like a move to us, but I don't know of interest in him, but perhaps.
Papa is overpriced. We had interest in
Yilmaz ages ago, but perhaps an expensive option, although I doubt it.
Chadli, we have interest in.
Jorginho would be a good option, not too expensive, highly rated, but not for the first team.
Praet we have interest/watched.
Benteke we enquired, but he is expensive, so I doubt we will move.
I pray for Alonso to be included in a cash deal for Suarez, so there is a chance as he is available and Gala have lost interest seemingly. Digne would want first team which we wouldn't offer, and be expensive.

There you go, I don't often do that...}

Digne would prove serious competition for Jose E class act

Eriksen wants and is waiting for a bid from spurs to come in, chadli is extremely close to joining them as well so I would rule out those two! Although I'm told that their interest lies with pjanic rather than eriksen {Ed002's Note - PSG and Manchester City remain keen on the signing of Miralem Pjanic. Spurs are aware that he could be available at the right price - but that is very high. Another English side have also made an enquiry, but it is not Liverpool. He was one of the players being considered by Dortmund as a replacement for Goertze.}

14 Jul 2013 16:31:47
so both manchester clubs lose opening friendlies hopefully it continues that way

14 Jul 2013 15:46:25
oh well we might as well give up then since we will not win the league this year!!!

I have to say that it is quite amusing to see the instant success mob that we have accumulated over the years cry into their lambrini .

We will have to grow as a club, on and of the pitch to get back to winning ways .I think that will be a long battle, it seems many of you are not up to the fight . I am excited for the new season and truly believe we are making progress, we have a better squad than last year at the moment, and since xmas I have been impressed by the teams form so the glass if half full for me.

Ask yourselves if you are supporting the right team & then you should go back to your lambrini's and watch the rest of the rom-com you have recorded on catch up .

Keep the faith

Kobi

You are right, but you are wasting your time Kobi. Its obvious that most on here want to be negative.

Just like when I wrote a positive post recently and I got a reply saying 'so everything is great then, we're going to win the league' or something to that effect.

Maybe I should just follow with the 'realistic ones'. Liverpool are crap, we're never going to get back into the top 4! All the players we sign are crap. When Suarez leaves, we're f***ed. Does that sound better guys?

14 Jul 2013 15:28:30
Hi eds! I don't understand the logic in loaning suso, meh was creative and fluent and abit like continho! Why loan him, he was great {Ed002's Note - It'll be for experience.}

Yes let's keep him in the reserves to gain zero experience and then we'll never know if he could be good enough to break into the first team.
He's not ready yet, didn't make an impact last season.
If he does well this season he'll be in our squad next season like a new signong to replace Downing most likely.

Very simply. he's on his way out next year

14 Jul 2013 15:05:19
Commentators on the game yesterday said "Liverpool fans have a history of giving any signing a chance, big or small." I've seen many who bash players like Borini and Alberto after one game. Real classy

I haven't seen one poster on here that's said a bad word about Alberto. And I'm sorry, but I really do think Borini is just a pile of crap.

RedKopite

They're not real fans mate.
But shhhhh, don't tell em or they pipe up.

Alberto? Why Alberto? I thought he was good. Giving a chance just for the sake of giving a chance does not get us any titles. Borini does not fit in our team.

Borini is still a young lad, lots of potential and was one of Roma's best players, he had injury problems last year, if certain sections of support had their way Lucas wouldn't be a Liverpool player now, and we all agree that he is one of the best defensive centre midfielders in Europe now. So let's give him a chance eh?

Here, here RedKopite

Borini offers us medical bills at best

RedalLover

Again the Lucas example. Lucas is/was and will always be a mediocre player. After all these years I don't see why all the fuss. We won't miss him if we sell him. Easily replaceable player, easily a better player can be found in his position.
And please don't start all these percentages nonsense as % alone do not win us titles. Lucas is not a good example to bring, please do not use it again.
We are becoming a laughing stock once we put Lucas up there with our best players.

14 Jul 2013 17:46:21
Lucas mediocre my arse! Stop spouting nonsense you clueless praaaaat!

14 Jul 2013 17:57:34
Complete joke, the fookin fact is he was the most successful tackler in the premier league, your words are absolute nonsense and show a shocking lacking of understanding of the game.

The "fans" on here just come out to get the transfer gossip to fill time, they're probably the same "fans" that are on here moaning during a game rather than actually watching. To me, this site in no way reflects the majority of fans.

You do not captain the Brazil U21 (and probably younger youth ranks of Brazil) because you are mediocre.

you do not become the youngest ever recipient of the Bola de Ouro because you are a mediocre player.

you do not get into the Selecao because you are mediocre.

Yeah Lucas is one of the best players in the PL. That's why nobody goes after him and that's why we will never win a title. because you consider him and these kind of players as something extraordinary. Jokers.

14 Jul 2013 15:03:30
The Suarez haters on here are ridiculous. You call him the traitor and he hasn't said anything bad about Liverpool. Bashing a player and calling him a cannibal just because you're mad at him shows your own intelligence. The fact that you would turn on him because of inflated rumors in the press shows that you're either stupid or a plastic traitor yourself. Support the team, support the manager, support the players. Suarez may have done some foolish things but no player works harder than he does on the pitch. This behavior is sickening.
TjRed

What makes you think they are still 'inflated rumours'? They are all straight from the horses mouth. And just because he runs a lot on the pitch and shouts a lot does that mean he deserves our respect?

Suarez has let himself & his club down more than once. No one to my knowledge has had a go at his work ethic or his skill .

Suarez coming out so publicly trying to maneuver a move and claiming he has not been supported is what has upset the fans .I agree much has been said that is way over the top but he has caused this no one else.

Blindly supporting one player and calling any fan a traitot that is angry that he is colluding with RM to do our club out of cash by turning himself into a hot potato is foolish at best.

Players leave all the time but if Suarez wanted to leave in a dignified way and move to a club that has a chance to win a major trophy then most of the fans would wish him well as long as we got the money he is worth.

Tj you need to get a grip mate .

Kobi

TjRed please google "Suarez interviews" and see what he has said. You will understand why people are frustrated with him and the comments he has made.
I do not condone the personal attacks on the player as this is just uneducated, mindless people venting their anger in the only way they know how. It is pathetic.

MUSHROOM

All the name callers wouldn't call him a thing if he was wanting to stay. He hasn't said anything that isn't true? When did we ever challenge for UCL last year? Or the EPL? He didn't say Liverpool sucked. He just said he wants to be challenging for trophies and playing at the top level. Liverpool haven't offered that; it isn't his fault.
TjRed

14 Jul 2013 16:34:54
TJ,

If Suarez had come out straight on the 31st of May and said "I want to leave because Liverpool aren't in the Champions League and aren't challenging for trophies" people wouldn't be as annoyed. If he'd just handed a transfer request into the club (or even unofficially said he wanted to go if he and his agent are that desperate for £2m) and not said anything in public, people would be even less annoyed again.

The fact that he tried to blag us into believing that it was about the media, but then 6 weeks down the line admitted his real reasons for wanting out (which most of us copped anyway) is why people are annoyed.

I hope you learn from this post, because next time I'm not doing your critical thinking for you.

So what we didn't challenge Rodgers first year.and the first team was in bits from swapping managers.were steady now

14 Jul 2013 22:14:30
Tj the point is that a player who wants to stay does not make those comments, at least in public. The fool is on a warpath and it's only a matter of time before his comments (past, present and future) bite him in the arm.

14 Jul 2013 14:44:06
Hi Eds can any one of you please give your honest opinion on who you think will be sold this summer? I reckon there's a lot of mediocre players on high wages and I fear we will have difficulty shipping them out i.e Assaidi, Pacheco, Coates, etc {Ed052's Note - Those 3 will probably go. Morgan, Adorjan too. Then Flanno and Robbo maybe (loan probably). Then either Skrtel/Agge - more likely S. Then Suarez, and maybe/probably Reina}

Wow thanks eds 052 by my ameteur sums that's around 70 million we will generate in sales do you think it will be re-invested into new players? If we could get rid of Downing wed have 71 million lol

14 Jul 2013 14:31:44
hi eds
i have been watching the man city game to see how well good they are under pelligrini and there is a player on the other team who keeps playing inch perfect passes down the pitch and great tackles called edwin gyimah
have we ever shown any interest he looks amazing? {Ed002's Note - You want to take a guess at the answer?}

I get the feeling that people want lfc to inquire, bid and want every player they think is good. That is kind of stupid.

To the second poster:-
Everyone has an opinion mate on who they believe would benefit the club.

MUSHROOM

14 Jul 2013 22:09:05
If that's the case I want casillias to replace reina,
Kompany to replace coates, & gareth bale to replace downing.

ddaaaah

14 Jul 2013 14:29:03
Suarez is just a pathetic human. But he is right we will never win the league. Fsg do not have the ability to bring the players to the club to win the league. i'm not having a go at the owners i'm just stating a fact. We look so far away from top 4 there is no way we can win the league. We need world class players and they come at a price well beyond our means. Its not just the transfer fee but Fsg have not bought Any players on big wages ever so we will never be able to attract the best players.People say we don't get top players because we ain't in the CL but man city bought top players before they were in the CL.

All this 'NEVER' and couldn't 'EVER'
is a pointless attitude. IF you are right we shouldn't waste any time playing the matches. Just look at the richest club at the start of the season and give them the title

Puzzled

The richer the club the better the chance that's the way it is. We are not aiming for 1st we are aiming for 4th and with this squad no chance there is possibly 5 or 6 better clubs than us.Your just deluded if you think this team can win the title.

Are Suarez, Carroll, Downing, Henderson, Allen, Borini, Mignolet not on enough wages for your liking then?
Their combined weekly wages probably comes to about 500k.
They cost about 120m between them.
All these players came since FSG came in and SAVED THE CLUB FROM FOLDING.
Get a grip yeah.

Suarez is wrong, your wrong, We Will win the League, okay maybe not this season, but we will def be in the top four, then playing in Europe again will atttract the better players to us, bringing in more money,
BR and his team have a plan, keep the faith, another two transfer windows and the younger lads getting stronger, we will have a team to be proud of .
redforever

14 Jul 2013 14:18:51
With De Boer saying: 'It's up to Christian to do what he wants, if he wants to go to Liverpool, then it's up to him.' Could that mean Eriksen is on his way?

14 Jul 2013 14:07:50
Just remember guys, a Suarez in his prime is nothing compared to a Torres in his prime, or an Owen or a Fowler in theirs for that matter.
The guys garbage, and a bigger traitor than Torres or Owen. Can't understand how anyone can defend him. If someone like Van Persie called Johnson a 'Negrito' or whatever it was, then refused to shake Johnson's hand, you'd all call him the devil incarnate. Then throw in the couple of biting incidents, the diving and basically calling us a small club, we should get rid of him today.
I'd take 50p for him if it got him out of the club!
In all seriousness, squeeze every penny we can out of Madrid or whoever and move on with building the squad.
I'd rather have Grant Holt or Keegan playing up front than him, even now he still has more class.
I've never defended Suarez so this isn't the 'last straw' it's just another incident in a long line of behaviour which embarrasses himself, the club, the fans and football in general. Shankly would have sent him on loan to a team in Siberia by now.
John.

No mate about the Evra incident I believe Suarez is right.
Evra is one of the worst characters in PL. he knew Suarez was not coming at him in a racist way yet he went full offensive on him like a little child. All his team players were astonished by the way he handled that situation.
Johnson would have never bothered.

Suarez has now come out and said we are not good enough for him. Move on.

Suarez was still out of order for what he did in the Evra incidentssss. Not one, but two incidents with him.
Also two biting incidents in the last 30 months.
He has no class, it's simple.
I'm certainly no fan of Evra but Suarez is dirt.
We'll see in a few months we're better off.
If he was as good as he clearly thinks he is, shouldn't he have won us a league by now like Maradona at Napoli?
Ronaldo at Madrid?
And dare I say it Cantona at United?
He's dirt, can't wait to wave him off.

14 Jul 2013 16:12:31
Errr. what?

Suarez is at least as good as Torres and better than Owen at his prime. Fowler at his peak (100 goals in 3 seasons) is the only one you could say was better, imo. And unlike the three of them, I think he'll continue playing that well after he leaves rather than going into decline.

It's perfectly justifiable to hate him for his attitude, and for his feeble attempt to bull**** us about his reasons for wanting out, but let's not change history and say he's as good a player as he actually is.

Torres in his prime versus Suarez in his prime?

Not a lot between them but give me Torres every time. Torres was lethal. Suarez is prolific but is also extremely wasteful and the fact that he is banned 1 in 5 gives Torres the edge.

Owen was a good finisher but wasn't a good footballer technically as Fowler, Torres or Suarez.

My order: 1) Fowler, 2) Torres, 3) Suarez, 4) Owen.

1) Kenny, 2)Fowler, 3) Rush,
4) Keegan,

14 Jul 2013 13:41:17
Really not impressed with all this Suarez complaining and moaning, he was looked after by this club at the expense of people like Kenny Dalglish who are actual legends of the club and well respected in the game,
Personally i'm not happy with how we've ever handled any of his shenanigans and I think we've gone way too far when it comes to standing our ground for this vile man,
World class?. i'd say world class included attitude towards the game too, he's showing no class whatsoever right now and is continuing to drag our club through the mud with his whining attitude,
Get rid, let him tarnish somewhere else even if it is another prem club and let's move on,
Im not worried about losing him anyway, as much as I've loved watching him play at times he's also very greedy and you never know how he's going to react to anything, If we cater for him now we'll be making a rod for our own backs.
Lifetime fan.
YNWA JFT96

The man is a complete jerk. It has to be all about him, whatever or whoever involved, is of no concern to the DF.

No doubt Harry Scousser and Waro will find an excuse for his latest comments to.

The real AG

14 Jul 2013 13:31:37
Liverpool are in talks for a double swap for Christian Erik and Toby Alder for 22m
And we also being linked to Ryan Bertrand and Cissokho
Any truth in this EDS
Thanks
YNWA {Ed052's Note - I gave a full answer earlier}

14 Jul 2013 13:00:16
As eds have mentioned many a times that despite everything luis would go.
After his recent interview he might even go in pl itself if the right offer comes.
Now I know that eds have previously said that he irreplaceable but do you think l damaio of brazil can be an options. A deal fell through last year we know. but is it possible?
Red indian

14 Jul 2013 12:48:41
Eds,
With Liverpool heading on tour soon, will BR want to wrap up his signings before LFC leave? Or is this irrelevant to any transfers?
Also is it likely that the money we get for Suarez could be spent on players before he actually leaves?

Thanks :) {Ed002's Note - No idea.}

He might want to wrap up all the transfers but it doesn't mean it's going to happen in time.

14 Jul 2013 13:31:05
I don't think we need to worry so much about purchasing a defensive midfielder as I believe Henderson could cover for Lucas in this position. He is very good at seeing the danger and tracks back really well.

We don't need another centre back either as we already have Agger, Skrtel, Toure, Wisdom, Kelly and Coates. Obviously if one defender leaves then a replacement would be required.

Coutinho will most probably play behind the striker next season as this is where he is most effective. Gerrard, Alberto, Aspas, Henderson and Pacheco can also play behind the Striker. Therefore, I don't think we need a first team attacking midfielder.

I would like to see some experience on the width. At the moment we currently have Assaidi, Ibe, Sterling, Pacheco and Alberto for this position with Downing our only experienced wide player. I would definitely like us to buy an experienced winger with pace and power going forward.

For the striker position we have Suarez, Sturridge, Aspas and Borini. Obviously should Suarez leave (or when) then another striker would be bought in as a replacement

Similarly, we do not require any further additions in central midfield as we have Gerrard, Henderson, Allen, Alberto and Coady who can play alongside Lucas.

We may purchase another left back as competition for Enrique, but as it stands Robinson is capable of covering as is Glen Johnson. So it is not priority that we strengthen this area.

We do not need another goalkeeper or right back.

You may agree or disagree but realistically I can see us purchasing an experienced wide forward player only and obviously replacements for any departures.

Red Rum

Waste Hendo on that position? What are you smoking mate?

The main problem with that being the lad can track really well but is poor in the tackle.

Ciario80

Read the post before you comment.

I said Henderson could COVER in that position because he is very good defensively as well as offensively.

Obviously he would normally play more forward but IN MY OPINION he has the ability to play CDM if cover is required.

If you remember Lucas was an attacking midfielder when he was signed and look at him now, he is one of the best defensive midfielders in the league.

Look at Alberto, Aspas, Coutinho, Kelly, Suarez etc. They can all play in several positions which BR is a big fan of.

My point is that Rodgers may not choose to strengthen this area if we have other players who can cover in this position.

Red Rum

14 Jul 2013 11:59:43
just read Luis Suarez mocking Liverpool saying we will never win the league, and the club has held him back, if this is true, I truly despair! he makes it sound like his bad behaviour was everyone else's fault, painful stuff, my teeth hurt after being kicked in them!

This is the problem, the media have twisted and lied so much in the Suarez at Liverpool pantomime that you cannot really know what he said.
Until I see him put in a transfer request, I will believe nothing the media (who brought you the Hillsborough story don't forget) tell me.

14 Jul 2013 11:31:48
I have just been reading a article in which Luis Suarez is saying he will consider all offers. This I think is paving the way for him to maybe join a premier league club. One thing that frustrated me was when he was talking about incidents with Evra and Ivanovic, describing the latter as a blow and controversial. He bit a man on the football pitch and not the first time in his career. Kids who count this man as a idol and a role model shouldn't be seeing this. He can blame the media all he likes no one except him chose to do these actions. If he wants to leave let him. No player is bigger than the club. We survived after Owen and we survived after Torres. Rant over.

Jagerrocket85

He's panicking because no big European clubs have come in for him.

14 Jul 2013 12:33:39
Hey Eds.
Not that I personally think this is likely but how highly do you rate Xherdan Shaqiri and how much do you think he would cost?
Dani {Ed052's Note - we don't want to talk about money, it confuses people}

14 Jul 2013 12:03:25
Would anyone like a copy of Luis Suarez new book? it's called "How to lose friends and alienate yourself"

His biographer has brought out one too. He's called it "Interview with a vampire"

I thought it was called "It's all about me"

MUSHROOM

14 Jul 2013 11:09:33
I've really had enough of Luis Suarez now and all of his comments, I don't know why people still want him to stay when he keeps disrespecting our club! The guy wants to leave and keeps saying it and has used all the reasons under the sun to want to leave, he has shown his true colours over the summer, if he wants to leave that bad then why don't you hand in a transfer request you arrogant little ( insert swear word ). He doesn't deserve our support anymore! What an absolute clown and is yet again making a laughing stock of Liverpool fc.

Jamie

He won't be leaving until he hands in a transfer request and to right noway should he get big cash from this transfer should fine him two week wages for speaking about the club

He's not making a laughing stock of Liverpool you (insert swear word). joking :)
No mate, he's making a laughing stock of HIMSELF!
Just ignore all the talk.
He'll be gone soon and hopefully we'll have players coming in who have class.
Can see him going to City in all honesty.
Hope nobody even bothers to boo or even acknowledge him if and when he next plays at Anfield.
Regardless if it's for us, Real, City or whoever.
Ignore him, he's not worth stressing over.
I pity his mrs.

14 Jul 2013 11:03:43
sssiiiiiiiiiggggggggggghhhhhhhh. he's at it again. he's has suffered at lfc! I hope we wipe our hands clean of him asap. hopefully this week . he's a lil rat!
5 gold stars

Problem is he is trying to grind his price down

14 Jul 2013 10:51:48
in my opinion

i still think we miss some power and strength in the attack and midfield area
im happy about toure most of all because we have added some power at the back. finally! someone who won't get bullied by a forward

i think bony sow or wanyama would have added that to our team too.

so gerrard and lucas I would say are our only real physical players in there. the rest of the team seems lightweight. with sterling aspas borini luis alberto downing.

does any of the eds agree or some of the lfc fans on here?

BTW. have you guys really watched eriksen. I mean really? coutinho is miles better. the guy is a lightweight with no pace. I hope to god we don't sign him

red lobster

I agree pretty much with all you say except for about Sterling.
He's not going to be bullied easily let me tell ya.
He's a tough lil lad for his size.
Just watch the derby at Goodison last season for an example.
Got booked early, was pushed around but never hid away and kept fighting back to the point where he nearly got a 2nd yellow.
I'm hoping Brendan has had a positive effect on him with his advice.
Raheem seems to be listening now which he wasn't last pre season which should be a good thing and will hopefully allow him to reach his full potential in a few years.
I sure hope so anyway.

I think judging players based on strength and power is a bit old fashioned mate. All the best international teams in the world would be classed as lightweight conparred to England and yet England are lightyears behind on the world stage.
I think you need a good mix of players in the premiership to compete and also to adapt to all the different types of teams. Like you say toure adds steel to the backline, but the rest are not exactly lightweight, gerrard and Lucas in midfield is enough muscle and the front 3 will be more about technical ability and flair under Rodgers and we seem to have that now. I'm not worried about any lack of muscle in our team I think we are very well balanced now to compete with anyone.
I believe as a nation we need to stop looking for just height, steel, grit and power from our players and look for technical ability.

MIKEY

He is better then bony or wanyama

14 Jul 2013 10:21:41
Not sure why everyone is getting so exited we beat an average league one team with a goalkeeper who looks like he should be in the Ryman league.

Had a bad night have we?

People wanted to see how the new signings would fit in and how they all link up, they did that well, that's why everyone is made up. It's not so much the result it's the performance of the players.

MIKEY

You are very negative

First preston
then

The World

You'll see

BR the king of kings

And for those who don't get it, well

It was the way we played mate, considering it was a mish mash of players there was a lot of good passing, invention and skill which is what we've been crying out for for years. We all know it was against a team of no hopers, we're not stupid but its the style of play we're excited about.

Ryanair and barcelona spring to mind, the game wasnt meant to be a champions league qualifier mate were easing ourselves into a new and very important season, the point is no one got injured and we won, the score was irrelevant the opposition where friendly so yes youd of expected us to win, but to point out the frailties of a team that agreed to play us to commemorate Bill Shankleys centenary is totally disrespectful, and the kind of attitude that sinks ships.

I think Preston are better team the Singha All Stars?

14 Jul 2013 10:07:06
Hi Eds .my Turkish newsagent has just told me that the turkish press are reporting Yilmaz could be Liverpool bound also some interest in Inan .He is a Gala fan so he is a bit gutted! cheers ant {Ed002's Note - Both have been dealt with - try the search engine.}

14 Jul 2013 10:00:52
Heard an interesting bit of gossip over the weekend that Liverpool have triggered the release fee clause in Marouanne Fellaini's contract? The figure is believed to be £23mil .

Ed's,, do you think there could be anything in this? {Ed002's Note - No.}

14 Jul 2013 09:48:57
Eds heard we were preparing a bid for Bernard. Any truth and if so how much? {Ed002's Note - Search engine broken is it?}

14 Jul 2013 09:28:32
Apologies for cut and paste Eds but was hoping whether you could confirm the below from net?


{Ed052's Note - I dont believe a double deal for E and A is true. We know Liverpool have certain degrees of interest in both players, but I dont expect Eriksen to come in. Liverpool though A was overpriced, but at 7m or so, perhaps we will reconsider. I dont know of interest in Bertrand at all, he wasnt one of the LBs we have scouted. I will speak to Ed002 about it}

Hi Ed - I suspect this has grown out of rumours that Enrique wants to go, and people searching through BRs career for a convenient left back name to start a rumour about.
The fact that it 'helps with a Suarez swap with Chelsea' just adds icing to the cake .

13 Jul 2013 08:27:05
For Ed001 or Ed052

I know your Liverpool fans (Correct me if i'm wrong!), so tell me, come the end of the transfer window, who would you like to have seen brought in?

We talk about the positions that need or we want strengthening, but in you serious opinion, what do we need and who would you like to fill those positions?

Many thanks, and great work by all


RD {Ed052's Note - a CB, perhaps a winger, perhaps a top quality LB, and, Xabi... thats hope, not a rumour, sorry. Papa would be good for CB, but I'd be happy with a youngster replacing Coates. Toure, Agger, Kelly and Wisdom are enough CBs. For the wing, perhaps Duzdak (sp - sorry) LB, Cissokho maybe?}

I agree, but I've heard talk of Chelsea possibly looking to bring Xabi to London. Have to see I guess

I will say this though, I like the way the club Is going at the moment, and we can only improve on last season IMO. I'm 100% sure we won't do any worse!

I think we will see 3, maybe 4 new signings before the end of the window, but o far, I'm very happy with the new players. Keep up the good work Brendan!

Eds, make sure you all take on plenty of fluids between posting our posts! But as I said above, keep up he good work


RD

14 Jul 2013 08:45:10
Hearing that we are looking to complete our squad with the Ajax duo and a exciting player from Munich.

Ed. how true are these growing rumours about Erickson and alderweald from Ajax? Say rating between chance of 1-100% {Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation with both players - we are not going to be guessing at a percentage.}

Didn't know adolf was for sale?

14 Jul 2013 08:03:08
RM now want LS for £25m as its his preferred destination they want his " on the cheap". I think we have to sell Suarez but is it not possible to say £40m offer by 01 August or he is not for sale.

That way, we've done right by LS (again) and looked after ourselves in the process!

Only a warm up game yesterday, nice and straight forward. looking forward to seeing them up against top opposition.

Yes I wonder if we would have done good against top opposition like the Singha All Stars.

14 Jul 2013 11:06:23
Utter nonsense. Their first bid is 40 million euros.

14 Jul 2013 02:50:20
Lads, been a while since I posted. just watching the wheels go round and round, as it were.

I for one am excited about the new season. I personally disregard the Suarez drama since if he stays we will have a star forward, and if he leaves, we will likely profit 15 - 20 plus million on his purchase price, and invest in one or possibly two new stars. I really think Rodgers is building something special at our club. It will take time, but clearly FSG see the same potential that I do.

Aspas is hungry, and reminds me of Tevez a little bit (the hungry Tevez, that is). Alberto will be a star one day, and let's not forget our rising young stars: Raheem Sterling may surprise a few people this year now that all the pressure is off, and if Hendo can continue his development, he could very well be an important player for the team. Coutinho needs only to manage the expectation to excel.

I don't think we need anyone else, if infact Suarez stays. A central mid to replace Gerrard is needed, but he would have to be young, talented, and willing to wait until he is a full time player. That combination is not easy to find, and the likes of Eriksen, etc, while obviously excellent choices, may not slot into the first team this coming season while stevie still has some gusto. Rodgers may wait until next year to sign Gerrard's succesor (and no, I don't think Hendo is meant to be that player).

Looking forward to a promising season of good football. Forget targets, we are building something special at Anfield.

Coop

Agree with an awful lot of what you said. I would throw in the one caveat that we do need to find a reasonably young CB (23-25 for a CB) that has both experience and potential. Someone that can play now and grow with the team. If we shore up the middle of our defense we have a good chance of being a strong team this year, even without any more additions to the team.

I agree in regards to Suarez. As a person he has lost my respect, and whilst I do think he will leave in this window, if he stays I believe he will play just as hard as he always does and he is a world class player, despite his DF tendencies.

As far as a Gerrard replacement. I think we may already have one in 16 yr old Jordan Rossiter. It may be case of bridging that 2-3 gap. Stevie was superb last season and I think he still has 2 seasons left playing his role at this level.

SpudRed

Kidding? Literaly?
16 why o. To replace gerrard? I think sg can hardly give us more than 3-4 yrs. Then yo kid would b around 19.

Totally agree Coop. Think Rogers is doing a great job.

Anyone see Flanno's bursting run to slot in Borini (the one he put wide)? Reminded me of Gerrard of old.

Alfie

14 Jul 2013 00:09:18
Jakub Sokolik's contract is up this summer. Any idea if he has been given a new one? Still listed on the official site.

13 Jul 2013 23:35:57
Liverpool will face competition for Bernard's signature. The Brazilian club's president, Alexandre Kalil, has confirmed five clubs are interested in his star."We have had five offers for Bernard, that is true. I have already said that I don't want to talk about transfers, but it is true that there are five clubs in for him as has been reported, " Kalil told the Metro.Spurs may not be among those, having already signed one Brazilian midfielder in Paulinho; the former Corinthians star moved to north London last week for a reported £17m. Bernard's agent, Juan Reol, has been quoted as saying: "Dortmund have expressed an interest. Tottenham as well, but since they have signed Paulinho they have gone cold".Reol did also say Portuguese champions FC Porto were also interested.

From what I'm told this is what may well happen? Bernard most definitely has had contact with spurs however he will almost certainly end up at porto! eriksen will be a candidate for roma as a direct replacement for pjanic who could end up at spurs

14 Jul 2013 09:49:50
Poster number 2, did you get all this from reading Ed002's responses by any chance? HRTP (He Read The Posts)

MUSHROOM

13 Jul 2013 22:56:38
Hopefully the Suarez situation will turn out like one of the below.

Suarez to Bayern for Shaqiri plus 25 million.
Or
Suarez to Mardid for Higuain (20 million) & Rodriguez (5 million) plus 20 million.

Seems we will negotiate a player in any deal we agree to the buying club.

Not saying these are the only viable players, but my preferred choice. With Rodriguez in last year of contract his fee will be lower and his versatality would be a benefit to the team.
Higuain is a long shot but if we could persuade him he's an ideal replacement to go along with a quality youngster who can play either wing.

Would also still like to see us push for both Alderweireld & Eriksen from Ajax. With Alderweireld available for just 7 million and Eriksen available at 12 million they are surely bargains for all the talent, potential and sell on value they possess.

All these deals could be funded by Suarez signing for Madrid. To lose Suarez and gain Higuain, Rodriguez, Eriksen and Alderweireld is very good business by the club in my opinion and something we should persue.

We would still have the money for further players with the money we have accrued from Carroll, Shelvey, Pacheco, Spearing, Downing, Assiaidi, Coates and Skrtle. That's a sizeable amount for further deals, and the choices for Rodgers are endless.

Jonesred

Great post, totally agree. The Ajax boys are what we need & a bargain.

Adam

Jese is surerly worth a lot more than 5mill?

If any of this happened along with the Ajax duo I would actually cry with happiness. I know it's unlikely but I can't understand why we don't put a bid in for Erikson! He's so cheap compared to potentially how good he is

Rodriguez is in the last 12 months of his contract so I'd say 5-6 million is about right.