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14 Aug 2015 22:40:42
What a goal by Mikel San Jose vs Barcelona. He was part of our academy for a while but deemed surplus.
14 Aug 2015 23:11:56
It was one goal mate chill.
14 Aug 2015 23:56:43
He's even been capped by La Roja. Happy he's made it it the rest, not so much.
15 Aug 2015 02:27:02
Still find it funny paletta started for Italy against England
14 Aug 2015 22:17:11
There's a good chance that both of us and United are going to struggle to live up to expectations this season. I for one will be gutted if we miss the boat and Klopp goes to United once they sack Van Gaal which, in my opinion, is quite likely.
14 Aug 2015 22:47:02
LVG at this rate will get the boots midway through.
14 Aug 2015 23:03:41
Utd have not played well . But it's a results business . And imo they have a better controlling midfield than us . So that's not looking good on our end . And if they manage to get a striker they will be the least of our worries
14 Aug 2015 23:59:59
Utd didn't play well all season in fact, they won none of their last six games last season and yet they were fourth so as long as they are winning, he'll have a job.
15 Aug 2015 02:28:07
At this rate? 2 wins from 2, at this rate he will have an 100% season.
15 Aug 2015 06:15:01
Fencey they've played terribly and gotten two deflected goals. Surely even united's luck can run out.
15 Aug 2015 09:43:39
Fencey
He wouldn't stay long, two deflected goals in 180 mts of competitive football and unlike some here UTD fans would need a better football on the pitch and their sponsorers.
They are playing poor just like we kept 10 clean sheets last season and later got banished.
14 Aug 2015 22:05:24
Dwight Yorke has got to be just about the worst pundit in any sport I've ever had to listen to. Can't stand the muggy little bloke
14 Aug 2015 22:36:48
All he does is talk about the 'United way' and 'pace and power'.
14 Aug 2015 22:44:38
You haven't heard our podcast yet !
14 Aug 2015 22:54:25
He is shocking,at 1st I hated you no who but to be honest him and Carra are good.
14 Aug 2015 23:00:17
Can't wait benny :)
15 Aug 2015 02:28:51
Yorkes not a good bloke, surprised they even thought he would be a good pundit
15 Aug 2015 07:49:38
He may be a bad pundit but he doesn't come close to john Barnes presenting days on channel 5.
14 Aug 2015 18:29:16
My bro in law has a friend whos kid goes to the same school as Lucas kid.He has been to several parties via the kid connection. He speaks very highy of Lucas as a person. At the most recent gathering Lucas told him that he really wants to stay as he loves the club but he feels he has to go. Not only is he struggling to get a start now he has also been told,by Rodgers, that Allen is the preferred player in that position.
I posted a while ago regarding a venue dresser who was doing work for Lucas. She was told that she wouldn't be needed for next year as he wouldn't be here. This is a completely different source. Seems like we are simply waiting for an acceptable offer as Lucas isn't content with a minor role.
14 Aug 2015 20:08:04
IF that is true it shows you the poor judgement of the man if he believes allen is a better dm than lucas. I actually want him to go now and go play for a team that will win him some trophys. Like i said if that is true i will wish the lad well and hope he is treated better where ever he goes.
14 Aug 2015 20:31:14
So Lucas was telling everybody this at his kids party? While eating jelly and ice cream?
14 Aug 2015 22:39:15
these kind of posts bring me back a few years
15 Aug 2015 00:02:38
We all know know what BR thinks about Allen and Lucas as players so don't need any inside info to know that.
15 Aug 2015 07:08:21
Haha right napoleon? I actually love seeing these tbh. They always make me smile and they have seemed to evolved to be a tad bit more believable the they were years back as well.
15 Aug 2015 14:41:20
Its up to you what you believe guys but if I was in the habit of making things up I would make up something more sensational and entertaining than that! I've seen pics on Facebook of this lad at previous parties with Lucas and the other players. Funny how things are instantly manipulated though. This lad has gotten to a level of friendship with Lucas whereby he had the confidence to ask about his future and was given an honest answer. O G though suggests that he's telling everyone whilst eating jelly and ice cream.
14 Aug 2015 18:16:50
Regarding Lucas, and any team wanting to loan him. Why would Liverpool agree to this? What, has he got to prove he's good enough to the loaning team!?!? Loaning him just doesn't make sense at all.
Especially not to any Italian team as they never ever take up the option to buy! Or when they do, they want a really knocked down price.
14 Aug 2015 22:56:18
coz he is world class and none wants him. lols
14 Aug 2015 17:27:43
Have to say there are lot of hypocrites here.
There is only one way to judge BR this season. on the results.
Not on how we play, who he alienates, what he says, if he learns from his mistakes, if he tries his best, not on how much he spent on transfers, not on how much salary does LFC pay etc.
Everyone knows that he was given the benefit of doubt last season and the owners also took into account the fact that the season before he has done so well, he was allowed last season's fiasco for reasons they would have definitely discussed in season review.
This season if he doesn't get the results he is gone. So let him do his job and let us support our players and team.
I am expecting contention for top four, a trophy and at least semi finals of Europa. That would be my expectations. I don't know what objectives he has been given by FSG!!
14 Aug 2015 17:48:38
You have high hopes for someone who doesn't want to play to the strengths of the team!
We all support LFC doesn't mean we have to like Brendan.
If he's still here next season, and where in the EXACT same situation. Would you still give him a chance?
I know it's your opinion but don't get annoyed with people's who differ from yours!
14 Aug 2015 18:16:50
What's hypocritical about wanting BR to learn from his mistakes and stop alienating players?
Because he's already proved that he can have one good season and then undo the good work of that season inside a couple of months, which is kind of problematic for the club's medium and long term prospects. So you'll have to excuse me, or anyone else for that matter, if we're hoping to see more than just an improvement in results over a single season, and actually want to have some confidence that he's not going to repeat the same mistakes that saw him destroy his last good season almost immediately.
And even if I'm wrong about wanting to see our manager improve and develop (which I'm not), I still don't why you think it's hypocrisy. I'd be putting unfair expectations on the manager, but that's not actually hypocrisy, is it? Do you know what the word "hypocrite" actually means?
Finally, if we do just boil it down to pure results, then "in contention for the top 4" isn't enough, we have to finish in the top 4 for him to have any chance of keeping his job, imo. He's had enough time and enough backing that I don't think it at all unreasonable to finish in the top 4.
14 Aug 2015 18:53:58
@Kopette9 : I am not supporting BR for the heck of it, nor am I making any excuses for the disastrous last season. If the owners would have decided to fire him then I would have understood.
What I am trying to point out is the hypocrisy here.
a) people are saying a great manager is someone who punches above their weight. Did we not do that 2 seasons back, when i know for a fact that on this forum the most that we expected that season was top 4.
b) Some people are saying 2 seasons back he didn't manage well, we shined only because we had Suarez but people are forgetting that we played even when he was banned, SG was nominee for the player of the season, Skertel scored most goals for a defender and Sterling was the rising star of the League.So he gets no credit for success but all the blame for the failures. Why the double standards?
People have said that the system BR used was suggested by some other coach (Biesla?). People are given suggestions all the time, in fact if you open up google and you will get tips for everything from being healthy to becoming rich. If everybody was able to implement what has been suggested, it would be a different world.
c) People want exciting football, solid defense, youth players, trophies, top 4 , BR should speak less, travel more, get along with all players, apologize for his mistakes, learn from his mistakes, keep his promises, keep all players happy even those not getting games, Lucas should be the first name on the team sheet but no player should be a guaranteed starter!
Let us be a little patient, the season has just started.
Judge the manager and the team on the results.
This season he has got the players he wanted and more importantly not forced players he did not want. He support staff has been revamped. So he has no excuses and will be let go if he doesn't meet his targets.
It is not us fans vs BR vs the world. It should be LFC vs the world. don't let us bring down our own team.
14 Aug 2015 19:17:57
So you claim that subjectivity on judging a person is by results. Then claim that BR can only stay if he contends top 4 (note contention doesn't mean achieve) a trophy and Europa league semi finals.
All of which are subjective to your own opinion.So in essence what you said was,''every one is a hypocrite for personal expectations,here's my expectations,these are the correct ones. If you don't agree you're a hypocrite. Pot Kettle Black mate.''
14 Aug 2015 19:34:25
How can you support Lfc but not the manager? Its just nonsense and dooming the team and club to failure. If he isn't good enough it will soon show, then it is up to the owners as it was last season. You can't blame Rodgers because he is still there. That much cannot be argued.
14 Aug 2015 19:56:49
@Bob. what I gave were my own expectations. I don't know what has been given by FSG , so can't say if he will stay or not.
I agree that everyone has their own expectations but you can't really expect one person to meet all of them.
At the end of the day you should see the results and decide.
People should give the scathing criticism little rest. I mean we win on Sunday and on Monday this forum is alight with some new character flaw of BR.
Allen didn't even play and there are posts bashing him. Milner works his ass of but he is not needed and Lallana should be sold according to some people.
See it may look like I am a blind supporter of BR , I am not. But post after post here just bashing him for hundred different things. Is he paying FSG to manage or vice versa.
I know once we get few good results in, things will change around here. So have some faith please.
14 Aug 2015 20:22:31
What you fail to understand pank is that all of the criticisms you say that don't count contribute to his performance as a manager and ergo the teams results. I don't see one without the other, if he leaves out said player for whatever reason and plays another in his place out of position and we then lose does that mean we should only judge the result and not the underlying ineptness of the manager.
So if that ineptness leads to a season of underachievement it should be ignored because its only the results that count. Your argument is flawed i'm afraid.
Most of the criticsm while sometimes manifested in a purile way is actually sometimes deserved, sometimes not i agree. Hypocrisy, no my friend it based solely on my part from past performance and evidenced by both results and decisions made by the man which have baffled and continue to do so.
14 Aug 2015 20:34:01
My own expectations are good football,not ruining the club financially selling youth players for f all, alienating players and causing discord and to challenge for the title and every cup.
but because you disagree that makes me a hypocrite? I think you need to learn what that word means.
14 Aug 2015 21:35:49
We have only played one game!! We won too!!
BR is the manager and the team is what we have, I can only see outgoings now for this window.
That's the situation and let's just see what happens, I don't really care to much about anything other than us winning games and I support the team because that's what we have.
Don't waste time on discussing us failing and sacking the manager yet, we only just got started.
14 Aug 2015 23:17:22
I just don't like the man is that a problem? I don't mind being a realist but any fan who says we should be challenging for top 4 should be supporting someone else. how long before we become Stoke etc and be aiming for top 10. go back to bed mate.
15 Aug 2015 00:08:26
Pank, I suggest you go learn how to debate your points because the hypocrisy and contradictory nature of your posts and opinion is deafening. BR has proven to be aweful and has a dreadful European record, spent more than any other manger in club history in three years without a sausage to his name. With those results, it's fair to say he is a failure. What do your results say?
15 Aug 2015 05:44:19
@ redohio : My results say that he had one ok season, one very good season and one very bad. did he deserve this season, maybe idk but FSG definitely thought so.
PS : Klopp didn't even want the Liverpool job, Biesla was still employed at that time. Iam sure if someone good was really available BR would have been replaced.
But now that he is still here, give him a breaK!!
15 Aug 2015 07:19:35
Thank you for your positivity pankaj! We all might not share your thoughts but I always like to see a healthy debate and some positivity amongst all this "anguish."
15 Aug 2015 09:28:16
Thanks EMAN.
Lets hope the faith is not misplaced and we get the 3 points this Monday.
16 Aug 2015 14:04:27
Still a failure overall and why should I give him a break where based on the first game, his selection and tactics, he has learnt NOTHING regardless of the win? He's still treating players he doesn't rate disgracefully and his team selection is still crap so AGAIN, why should I give him a break?
14 Aug 2015 16:23:18
Do you think we'll start Firmino?
14 Aug 2015 16:52:37
I would hope not. I know everyone wants to see our polished new signing in play but right now Ibe and can based on his cameo are more deserving of spots.
14 Aug 2015 17:25:21
Reet I would hardly say they are more deserving just because they have made appearances; how can you get appearances if you require appearances to get them in the first place?
For me Firmino has to start, if that means Ibe or Lallana off is a different story.
14 Aug 2015 17:38:07
Cna because we looked ten times better with him than without him . And ibe because he's had a fantastic pre season and dropping him suddenly just to accomodate firmino who may still may not be match fit would be unfair to him
14 Aug 2015 18:27:57
Couple more bench appearance and he will be ready for a start I think. For now, I would start with Lallana, Coutinho and Ibe.
14 Aug 2015 18:31:32
I think they can both play but that means the captain is on the bench which isn't going to happen. Or you can take lallana and Ibe off.
14 Aug 2015 19:35:07
We should be beating Bournemouth, no matter what, I'd start can hendo coutinho , ibe, firmino and benteke
14 Aug 2015 20:04:22
I think Firmino takes lallanas place and everything else stays the same. its tough for can atm because of hendo and milner, would like to see us switch to 442 after an hour or so and stick milner on the wing to accomodate can and go with firmino and benteke up top.
14 Aug 2015 20:34:51
You're right AG, and it's important that Llalana has a good run of games to really prove himself now.
14 Aug 2015 22:59:11
It's very important for Lallana to start along with Allen soon. Two of the worst signing the club had made in years. A combined 41 million. Brendan struggling for places to play both. Lols.
15 Aug 2015 07:23:58
I would expect Can to start and Couter to move up to Lallana's spot. That is what looked to be our best lineup last week. Harry you seem to be awful harsh on Lallana. He may not be setting the league alight atm, but I was a big fan of him at Southampton and still have faith he can come good for us.
{Ed001's Note - do you not feel he takes too many touches? Fine if we want a slow build up, but for quick, incisive attacks, you need the ball moving quickly and he doesn't do that. He hangs on and hangs on before releasing it or losing it, and not when he is moving forward at pace either, which is when you don't mind players taking lots of touches.}
15 Aug 2015 08:39:07
Spot on Ed. I didn't want to say simular last season cause of all the abuse I would have received but started seeing it pretty much instantly. Did he do the that at Southampton? I didn't see a lot of him before he came across just highlights.
{Ed001's Note - he did, but they played with a slower build up so it was part of the way they played.}
15 Aug 2015 09:23:38
Eman
I can't help if you don't watch footie and behave like BR playing names than right player.
Quick counter attacking football needs the ball to released and run at people, so I recommend pace on flanks.
We spend 27 mill on the player and he has done nothing IMO. He cannot survive 90 mts on the pitch says a lot of the transfer.
16 Aug 2015 14:07:24
Spot on, Ed! I observed the same thing in the preseason. Lallana needs to move the ball quicker when he plays or he'll find his way to the bench regardless of how much I rate him as a talent
14 Aug 2015 13:32:03
Hi guys.
With PipCo being our lastest wonder for Spain to fight over any chance we could start grooming JT Joao Teixeira to take over. Just in case it our worst fears come to life. Cld some just whisper that to BR. so we can have a Sterling- Ibe kind of situation, bcoz it hurts bad to see players leave and its better to see them replaced from within. less pressure, already have our backing and we will be more patient with them. just my thoughts.
14 Aug 2015 13:12:08
Hi Eds, from recent posts its clear that the treatment of Lucas by BR has ignited the cinders under BR's man-management skills or lack of. I've never played sport professionally & often hear stories about the Crazy Gang some of whom famously disliked each other but gave 100% on the pitch but in this era I know, from 20 years of teaching, that a harmonious group of young men, that respect each other & those in with authority over them, usually achieve far more than a unhappy group. I think it will be a make or break season for BR. Thanks.
14 Aug 2015 13:48:26
You could argue that this will be the third season in a row that has been make or break for him. So I wouldn't be too concerned on that front.
14 Aug 2015 14:37:01
"Should be top 4 with 300M having been spent": this is simply not correct, LFC have the 5th most expensive squad after allowing for ins/outs, so if all the top 5 teams perform to their nominal level then we come 5th.
In fact it gets tougher than that, LFC have the youngest squad by far of the to 5 and many new players to integrate this season, so you could well say that 5th would be a good result.
But in sport anything is possible, and if one of the top 4 falters (as both Manu and arsenal did last year) and if we get things right tactically and the players gel, then let's hope we're in the chase all the way.
14 Aug 2015 14:56:09
Generally I think you must be right. But I've heard from one of the 2003 rugby World Cup winners that some of those guys hated each other. They haven't met up one time since the final and the bits that went immediately after.
And that was probably the best rugby side ever. Ever ever.
But for sure harmony is a better strategy b
14 Aug 2015 16:54:22
Absolute tosh quantum. We have spent more than Arsenal anyway!! Look at the squad Rafa won the Champions League with and got us to top ranked team in Europe with; a top manager makes all the difference. How do you account for Valencia or Atletico winning La Liga?! By your reasoning that didn't happen
14 Aug 2015 17:48:32
League position always correlates well with wages budget and not transfer budget
14 Aug 2015 18:29:52
We should just pay the likes of Kolo and Enrique higher wages so that we cumulatively pay more that all of the others, and that should be enough to finish ahead of Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal.
Do you see the flaw in your reasoning, Ron and quantum1?
14 Aug 2015 23:01:07
Quantum.
So what's the solution. Spend more to get more?
14 Aug 2015 23:04:16
What reasoning?
League position correlates well with wage budget.
That's not "reasoning" that's a fact.
You've extrapolated your own scenario from the facts. Don't bring me into it
15 Aug 2015 00:12:32
No it does not, Ron. We were second two years ago with the smallest squad among the top four having spent less than Utd and Chelsea and we still finished ahead of them. You have failed again in giving your BFF a pass. He is the manager, spends the money, picks the players and the tactics. It's all his fault if he fails but I know you and your ilk have such a hard time believing that or accepting it.
15 Aug 2015 06:28:05
Ohio, go and look at all 20 clubs over the course of the premier league and their wage budgets.
Don't try and use 1 club over 1 season and say there's no correlation.
That's just someone who doesn't understand mathematics.
14 Aug 2015 12:08:48
Not LFC related. But is it just me or does Quique Sanchez Flores reminds anyone of Dr. Gregory House?
14 Aug 2015 13:31:23
A little bit maybe. Just hope that he doesn't do vicodin
14 Aug 2015 19:01:28
I do see what you mean actually.
14 Aug 2015 22:29:17
I thought so too straight away haha!
14 Aug 2015 11:15:21
Hello, Eds and Reds. I'd like to ask, If Rodgers does well this season, taking into account all the back room changes, will your opinions on his managerial ability change?
14 Aug 2015 11:38:04
No, he's spent 300 million so he bloody well should be competing!! A good manager enabled a club to punch above their weight (Rafa at Valencia, Simeone at Atletico). Rodgers is like a noose around our neck
14 Aug 2015 11:57:35
For me no,
After reading down the page, a part of me is happy because we haven't forgave him yet.
I was a bit skeptical to post my views on him as I didn't want to be perceived as not backing the manager, I can't support him I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I don't know if I have high expectations of LFC and the club in general, but would any other club (not just the top four clubs) be happy if their manager spent over £300million, alienated players, forced long servant players out the club?
and not had any return? We made top 2 finish in his 3 years he's been here.
I really don't want to get people annoyed with my views, but this is my opinion, I've got really good expectations for Liverpool and Brendan fails to live to them expectations, i do believe he's in over his head. and I do believe his ego and his 'philosophy' will cost us greatly.
I really do hope he can prove all doubters wrong, but in a ideal world if he won the league, i doubt I'll still have much faith in him, especially with how he deals with players, promising them the world at LFC and given them nothing but false hope and empty promises. I think it'll have a major impact on our future targets, if he's still at the club.
The Lucas and ilori situation, really rubs me up the wrong way.
My apologies for the rant.
14 Aug 2015 11:58:48
It depends on whether he learns from his mistakes, what kinda football we play, and how he uses the squad.
I'd love to see some attacking football, quick, direct passing and for us to totally dominate teams, and for him to actually give players like lucas, ilori, sakho, ibe and the youth players their fair chance.
If he buys a Gk in January it'll be nice Too.
14 Aug 2015 12:05:36
Jax
Define ". Does Well. " This club should be competing for titles with the money spend and not 4th place trophy.
14 Aug 2015 12:46:28
Koppette9,
That is how an anti-Rodgers supporter should express their opinions. Of course I disagree but I like your style.
14 Aug 2015 12:49:30
Personally I think O'Driscoll's experience will help influence BR and the team as the season progresses. YNWA
14 Aug 2015 13:06:13
I agree WiseLFC and have said similar myself elsewhere, but if we do 'well' as a result, who will get the plaudits, Brendan or Sean/Gary for turning things around?
{Ed001's Note - he is the manager, he carries the can and should get the plaudits in that case, as they are his coaching staff.}
14 Aug 2015 13:10:37
this seasons team is all BR's and he should be judged at the end of the season , after what he has spent we should be in the top 4 but last season he never get there so how long do the owners put up with his BS , he is doing wrong in the way he is treating players , the players he is treating bad want to play for liverpool but he is such a air head he does not get that a player get down when they don't play so in training they are not doing their best because they know whatever they do they won't play any onther manager would see this and sort it out but not BR , this makes him a bad manager ,ive always thought a decent manager would get more out of our squad than what BR does . the owners don't see this because they believe the drivel what comes out of BR's mouth , let's hope he gets lucks this season and we get in the top 4 ,
14 Aug 2015 13:21:07
so he literally can't win then can he essex?
14 Aug 2015 13:24:47
Kopette9,
No need to apologise, totally agree with everything you said, I wish I can express it the way you did.
14 Aug 2015 13:35:39
If he gets 5th place he gets slated if he gets 1st it will just be said he should of done due to the money he's spent so he's in a no win situation.
14 Aug 2015 13:59:58
The Brendan Rodgers to do list:
1) Keep both feet on the floor and firmly away from ones mouth.
2) Seek professional help in regards to his addiction for purchasing midfielders.
3) Ask his squad broadly what position they each play so he can he remember when selecting his team and or making substitutions.
4) Request FSG purchase a thesaurus so he can discover any other words in the English language that could replace: "character" in a sentence.
5) Identify those keys weaknesses in his squad and pledge a sworn oath to Satan that he will never address the same.
6) Remember, style before substance. Apart from the football, and in that case don't worry too much about the substance either.
14 Aug 2015 14:43:25
A combination of things need to happen. BR needs to concentrate on managing the team, not the media. He also needs to stop tinkering with the team week in week out, as most of his expermiments accross the pitch have ended in failure. Importantly, he needs to decide who is best CB partnership is and try to stick with it even through the difficult times. If its Lovren alongside Skrtel give him an extened run in the side. Also we clearly need a DM, it seems Can is the favoured choice. However, I'm not certain he's ready to play such a pivotal role in the side. I see this as one of the most important postions on the pitch. It's a very disciplined role and Can does have a tendancy to wander out of the postion, as he did when he played at the back. Cleary Can will need time to adjust and learn, this is why Lucas has to remain at Liverpool for at least another season to help Can and pass on his wealth of experience. I hope Lucas will continue to serve us well this season both on and off the pitch. Also, Sturridge has to play up front with Benteke. I know BR prefers to play a lone striker but I think both of them up top would be formidable and strike fear into opponents. And yes, I think they can play together. Lastly. and this is key to the team; I expect O'Driscoll to breed confidence throughout the squad, hopefully nervy home encounters will be a thing of the past! Added to confidence, he will get the players thinking for themselves and expressing themselves. Both these assets will hopefully create a winning mentality and the plaudits won't just lie with BR! YNWA
16 Aug 2015 14:11:17
Brock so the three years prior, this was not BR's team yet he is the one buying all the players and has the final say and veto authority with the commitee, right? If you believe that, I have a swamp in Florida I'd like to sell you.
14 Aug 2015 10:31:47
The first ever podcast for the rumours site is being recorded tonight. You'll be hearing myself and ed001 discuss realistic expectations for the season. I believe there will be a comment section, so it would be great for feed back lads! Hopefully it goes well :)
14 Aug 2015 11:30:37
Where would I be able to listen to this podcast?
{Ed001's Note - should be uploading it on this site when it is done. The link will be placed on here anyway, we might have to use a quieter server if more than one person is actually going to listen to it! I best get back to practising my posh voice ready.}
14 Aug 2015 11:36:13
Awesome!
14 Aug 2015 11:47:04
Brilliant. Could we all join?
14 Aug 2015 12:21:16
You've got my vote, Harry!
14 Aug 2015 12:22:23
Looking forward to it. Thanks for taking the time out.
14 Aug 2015 12:48:45
best idea we've had on the site in a long time, nice 1
14 Aug 2015 13:11:43
its a great idea , let's hope its a hit and we get one all the time
14 Aug 2015 13:14:05
Thanks for the support everyone. I've done a few audio things before but actually speaking about the love of my life has made me a nervous wreck !
There a big plans though on topics, Post match analysis being one of them where I imagine we will all have a different view and could be juicy !
Any segments/topics/opinions you'd like to be considered just ask!
Speaking to ed001 the last few weeks has been a pleasure. The man is Mr Liverpool! and I can quite easily listen to him ramble on about the good old days :) so yeah any suggestions let us know!
{Ed001's Note - good old days? Damn I feel old now cheers.}
14 Aug 2015 13:27:14
Brilliant. Could we all join?
European glory
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I don't know about all , but you and Waro in there will be a very interesting listen
14 Aug 2015 13:49:15
I would like to join in perhaps in discussing something like the league this season. Probably won't be able to connect online could call in the traditional way for a couple of minutes
14 Aug 2015 15:23:47
Reminds me of when Icarus flew too close to the sun
14 Aug 2015 15:58:09
Judging by no you type Harry I'm almost afraid to hear you speak. Lol
14 Aug 2015 16:04:27
When's the United podcast coming ed?
{Ed001's Note - that will have to be next on the list.....}
14 Aug 2015 16:10:59
Excellent mate, I'm free whenever 😏
{Ed001's Note - not a bad idea actually. Moon would be good as well don't you think?}
14 Aug 2015 16:17:04
A CTR and moon ramble! If there is anything better in the world of football I don't want to know about it.
Yes moon would be excellent mate.
{Ed001's Note - *ahem* I can think of something better!!}
14 Aug 2015 16:32:37
Ed001
I suggest you do one with Kloot from the man utd page provided hr is still around. Think there would be scope to go viral 😂
{Ed001's Note - I would actually like that, he had some interesting stuff to say.}
14 Aug 2015 16:46:03
I vaguely remember the guy's ramblings on the whole Pogba situation. Made me chuckle tbh
14 Aug 2015 17:26:38
It's bad enough reading the fans whining, never mind listening to them lol. OJ, could be a success.
Red Rum
14 Aug 2015 16:38:35
Ahhh ed of course we couldn't have a podcast without our favourite ed! I'll ask ed07 if he's free :) joking of course.
{Ed001's Note - well obviously that was a joke, he isn't even their favourite editor on the Celtic site and he is the only editor on there......}
14 Aug 2015 16:53:26
Ed001
Also as i said I'd be very interested i'm joining one of he podcasts if possible through a call. Would something like that be viable?
{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate, it is difficult enough to do over Skype, not sure how it would be possible over a call. Maybe we could do a section on the site for people to upload voice clips of questions or subjects they wish to talk about or rants etc, that we could then add onto the podcasts? That might be the easiest way, if you don't have a stable connection to do an internet call. Not perfect, but it is a way round it maybe. Then everyone could get involved. I know benny baller would love the idea of having loads of clips to play with.....}
14 Aug 2015 17:35:38
You a scouser ed?
{Ed001's Note - originally yes, though years of moving round the country and having to tone down my accent for other people and then living out here has changed my accent a lot.}
14 Aug 2015 20:26:55
Ed001
I don't think i have a stable enough internet connection for a skype video call. Well not until I'll upgrade to 4g and that'll take time. Perhaps something like a WhatsApp call i could make it work. It'd be viable for others too I'd think
{Ed001's Note - that's why I was saying just upload a voice clip, WhatsApp calls are a nightmare I find quality wise.}
14 Aug 2015 20:39:05
Bootle lad if I remember.
Anyway Ed, I've heard you sounded like Pete Burns in your youth and a bit more Pete Price now.
{Ed001's Note - you remember rightly Davey. I don't think I have much of an accent these days, years of having to cope with southerners who couldn't understand a word I said.}
14 Aug 2015 22:42:31
We get to listen to ed01 sexy voice. Get the tissue's ready.
14 Aug 2015 22:18:16
Ed001 Just an idea but a good returning podcast could be a road to Wembley / road to Basel type.
Id be more than happy to pitch in if the opportunity ever arose.
{Ed001's Note - not sure what you mean mate? We will have to figure out a way to get regular guests on from the posters then, as so many are keen. I wasn't expecting that to be the case I have to say.}
15 Aug 2015 09:19:41
Very Glad to hear the Podcast idea took off like a treat like i mentioned a while back (although i'm sure its been discussed before). Very keen to hear it guys and keep up all the hard work, onwards and upwards against bournemouth!!
14 Aug 2015 10:08:43
Jose Enrique's new song at Liverpool.
Let me take a selfie.
14 Aug 2015 09:13:11
Somebody down the page mentioning Couthinho not being picked for the Brazil squad, consensus seems to be so what or good it's better for us! Well what I'd counter that with is, how long before people start getting in his ear and telling him he needs to go to Spain IE Madrid or Barca to increase his chances of being a Brazilian regular?
Ron Keague, I see your verbal jousting to be #LFCSNO1FAN continues, can I ask Ronald, do you have a season ticket? And if you do, do you find it easily affordable or like the rest of us, do you find it increasingly harder to justify the outlay? I ask this because peoples patience wears thinner a little bit quicker when your paying over £800 a season plus expenses to go and support the team.
14 Aug 2015 10:26:55
Waro (without getting too personal!) where in the country do you live? I've been wanting a season ticket for years now, I know there is a rather long list, but I live just north of London at the minute and don't even want to think how much it will cost! The last game I went to was last season, left here at 4pm for the late kick Tuesaday Ko and still missed the first half! What's the outlay for a season ticket holder living down south on average?
14 Aug 2015 10:40:39
Waro, why such a negative post? Maybe being left out the squad might make someone whisper in his ear "play so good that dunga can't leave you out" so then he plays the best season of his life hopefully gets us some silverware and then becomes a regular in the Brazil national squad? Not everything is doom and gloom :)
14 Aug 2015 11:15:39
Regrdless of his international appearance Countinho will be a target next summer.
14 Aug 2015 14:17:28
Stuie, I live in Aintree not far from the racecourse. So costs are not extortionate travel wise but drinks food maybe a program etc etc and it starts to mount up. But either way the costs for going the game now are extortionate compared to my first season ticket, which cost £48 I think. BTW, the season ticket waiting list is around 25 years on average apparently, it may come down with the extension but not by much I'd imagine.
14 Aug 2015 15:04:57
If it's the club not being recognized which has diminished his chances why didn't it diminish firminos as he was picked? If I recall, he was in the international wildernesss for a good 18 months prior to him being selected again. Think you're just looking for issues when there isn't one. Maybe dungs is just taking a chance to relook at some other players.
14 Aug 2015 15:51:10
Cheers Waro. My Uncle has a couple so I go when there's a spare seat going, which is rare. Shame really
14 Aug 2015 16:27:47
I have a season ticket, I also go to away/cup and European matches.
I don't want to discuss money etc, it's none of your business.
14 Aug 2015 22:13:56
Mr. Positive with a none of your business approach. Didn't see that one coming.
14 Aug 2015 08:10:25
There has been a few posts lately on Brenda's relationship with the players.
Some speak highly of him and there are others that have been critical of their treatment.
My take on it is that he has his inner circle of favourites. An "ingroup". Before anybody reacts to that this is an acceptable management practice - if the favourites are selected for the right reasons (top performers, commitment etc). This approach can spur the ingroupers on to new heights and motivate these outside to do whatever they can to get in. Those that cannot might leave - this can also be a good thing if the right people are leaving.
But there is a dark side. The outsiders can feel ostracised and become demotivated. Particularly If the selection of the insiders feels unjust or unfair (for example if it comes down to personality or some other kind of personal connection). Or some kind of personality clash.
I think what we are seeing is an inexperienced people manager. I'm specifically not talking about his football brain here. Whereas what he may be trying to do (which might be generous to say as it could be he is not trying to anything) could work but the execution of it is poor. Part if it is emotional - every supporter gas his own favourites and it is frustrating when the boss has different ones. But he is the boss and has that right.
There's no quick fix to this as people management styles tend not to change quickly. I hope the new coaches provide a better interface between playing staff and boss.
I hope I'm wrong but it does feel there might be a house of cards that could come tumbling down.
14 Aug 2015 09:01:27
Very interesting post and obviously a lot of thought has gone into it. But I fail to understand the need to call the manager of LFC "Brenda"
14 Aug 2015 09:13:30
He has the right to use a player in his favourite circle who is not performing over another because he is the manager?
Err. No he does not, that is not management at all?
An acceptable management practice??? WTF are you on about. He is supposed to represent LFC which is who pays his wages. He should do that in a professional non bias manner. Show me any contract of employment that would allow "acceptable management practice" that you are on about to allow such contempt of other professionals within that business.
And where does your take leave potential in bound players? Questioning if they will be in the "in crowd". Just easier not to sign.
You are dreaming mate if you think rogers only short coming is man management.
There is a quick fix and its easy thought the opportunity was not used at the end of last season
14 Aug 2015 10:19:59
I think we make a lot of assumptions about the manager's relationships with his players and our assumptions are normally biased by our personnel opinion of him.
My own assumption is he does have favourites and that attitude is often more important to him than ability. The much lambasted Allen is nobodies idea of a great midfielder but is a player who accepts his role within the squad and still works his socks off. Meanwhile Lucas, a better player, but one who no longer wants to be a squad player, would be allowed to leave.
I think he wants to be a decisive and firm manager but has yet to learn that every player has different characters and need to be managed differently.
14 Aug 2015 11:31:44
A few responses.
1, I did't say it was his "only shortcoming". I specifically said I was not discussing his football brain. RTFP.
2. Of course he has the right to pick any player he wants. You may disagree with his reasons but there is no way you can say it is not his call to make.
3. Inbound players - it depends. But there is at least anecdotal evidence that some players have gone straight into the ingroup and others (not the managers choic?) have gone into the outgroup. In itself that shouldn't matter as long as there is movement between the groups for the right reasons.
4. Acceptable management practice. Obviously RedalLover thinks he has more training in management theory. But if you bother to look at Ingroup and Outgroup theory you really will find that it is real thing. You see it everywhere - particularly in politics and organisations with high levels of internal politics. I think you might be confusing the practice with the execution of the practice.
14 Aug 2015 11:32:44
It's threads like these that ultimately caused many a stadium to not be filled during the tour. The lack of Gerrard et all is one thing but from my travels around Thailand, Indonesia and my own country Malaysia, there is a general dark mood that revolves around Brendan Rodgers.
I hope FSG know what they're doing by backing him with so much cash. The whole 'international brand' draw card that Ian Ayre spouts could give a collective cold shoulder. You'd see that in the balance sheet in two years but by then, reversing a trend would be difficult.
14 Aug 2015 12:01:38
He shouldn't have a group, if there are injuries and rotation is needed everyone in the squad should know as much as the rest.
14 Aug 2015 15:29:54
Yeah. It will be the thread that kept stadia in Asia being full.
16 Aug 2015 20:00:22
User, your post makes no sense. Agreed that managers have players they trust more than others. What they don't or shouldn't do is treat very good senior players like Sahko and Lucas disgracefully, turning on them and trashing them openly just because you don't fancy them. It's even worse when his favs are actually inferior to those he doesn't like nor can't win games with them but does when the non favs play. That is not normal in management. That is only normal in BR's and his acolytes deluded world.
14 Aug 2015 06:51:39
Mng Eds and Reds
Ed01, if you are around y did we not play a two up top last season with Balo and Sterling playing off?
All down to BR of proving a point to the world, He ain't my singing and doesn't fit in my style?
We did fairly well against Spurs with sturridge and Balo up top. Benteke and Balo looks very similar to me except one signed by BR and the other by Committee
Would love to know from you.
{Ed001's Note - I don't think Rodgers ever wanted to play two up top at any time. Even with Suarez and Sturridge, one was always asked to drop off when we lost the ball.}
14 Aug 2015 10:50:07
I don't see how benteke and balotelli are alike in any meaningful way. They're both strikers? Both over 6ft? Ethnicity?
14 Aug 2015 12:03:40
If sturridge regains full fitness and form for more than a month, he will surely have to play both at some point. I reckon he will probably play sturridge from the right, firmino from the left and Coutinho number 10 as a first 11.
14 Aug 2015 12:42:26
Fencey
And Milner on the bench and revolt. lols.
14 Aug 2015 18:51:55
We all can hope Fencey mate. 😕