Liverpool Banter Archive September 13 2013

13 Sep 2013 22:52:41
Hi eds and reds
I know it would be risky to change formation after a good start but given the number of quality CBS we have now and also given that our full backs Johnson, Enrique, cissokho are extremely attacking and weaker defensively do you think we will long term try and change it to a back three with two wing backs?
If we were going to do this formation I for one would welcome it, I believe against stronger team we could play gerrard and Lucas centrally and coutinho Suarez and sturridge ahead and against weaker opposition have counting and gerrard centrally with a different attacker such as Moses in attack.
I have mentioned Henderson as in this formation I think he would be the perfect wing back
Any thoughts?

Henderson isn't a wing-back.

Leave the team selection to Brendan.

It's best not to mess with a winning formation/team.

Also, Henderson is not a wing back.

Alex I think your formation is a prediction waiting to happen. You have all the right players for that formation and I think your manager had that in mind with his signings. I already feel your going to be putting in a strong challenge for CL place this season and 3 at the back with wing backs I believe will make you even stronger

I realise Henderson is not wing back, however he is not going to displace gerrard, we need Lucas for the defensive role and some discipline, he has stated he wants coutinho as a number 10 so I was just looking to fit him in as I feel he deserves a place but he isn't good enough to play in a fluid front three and as iv stated I can't see him in the midfield. And if we did play this formation he definitely wouldn't play in attack.
I merely think he has attributes of a good wing back, he has a fantastic engine, good on the ball, willing runner, decent dribbler, can mark and tackle as well as Johnson if not better and is quick, his only issue would be positioning and learning the game from that role

13 Sep 2013 22:18:35
Congrats to Brendan and Daniel for manager of the month and player of the month awards. Let's hope they both win Septembers award. YNWA

Congrats to Brendan and Daniel from me.

13 Sep 2013 19:36:07
I'm backing at least one of Gerrard, Coutinho or Henderson to score against Swansea.

I was impressed with Aspas' position against United a few times, if Sturridge gave him a simple cut back he'd have buried a second goal against them but that will come in time.

I think he'll be important for us in time, especially when the rest of the team get used to his movement.

14 Sep 2013 08:56:51
we r dew a pen go for gerrard 1st goal us to win 2-1.

15 Sep 2013 20:27:14
Swans will be going for the win and while we will certainly have opportunities to counter with pace on the break, I would imagine we could well score from a set piece a-la Gerrard or even build-up play. I would be surprised if we sat back looking to counter for the majority. Expect some exceptionally tired players due to forechecking from both sides and fitness levels associated with early season.

13 Sep 2013 17:47:02
I have never disrespected Michael Laudrup, but I think he should focus on his team and leave Daniel Sturridge and Liverpool alone. I mean, what does he think he's up to? Mind games? Does he think he's Sir Alex?

What did he say?

I it was a cheap shot but then he said he wanted Liverpool to have their best player on the field.

Disagree. I'm delighted he said it as it should only serve to motivate Sturridge on Monday.

14 Sep 2013 03:13:03
Who's does Laudrup think he is? Sturridge was injured against Manchester United and played the full 90 mins cause Brendan needed him that's what the hug was all about! Hope sakho starts alongside Agger on Monday cause he is an absolute beast! 3-1 Liverpool YNWA

By becoming so indignant, you are giving Laudrup's comments more importance than they deserve.

Ignore him, he's irrelevant. Peaked in his first season at Swans, it's all down hill from here.

A petty comment, also not worth a discussion IMO.

13 Sep 2013 16:27:21
looking at the bold predictions for Liverpool 10 game run.
The only slip will be a draw at swansea and we will go winning upto to a small defeat at Emirates Stadium. What do you think Eds? {Ed002's Note - I have no interests in fantasy football, sorry.}

Smash. back to earth!

Oh ye of little faith. They way we have started the season, we should fear nobody and expect to have a chance of winning every game, even at the Emirates. We have beaten Manchester United and we can beat Arsenal. Slip-ups may occur but all games must be considered winnable.

Another mystic meg post arrggh!

The last number of seasons should teach you to only take one game at a time. We finished 7th last season for a reason i.e. inconsistency. and let's be honest we could be sitting here with three draws instead of three wins.

Got to agree with Northern Git.Top 'Monica' by the way Northern!

What is the friggin point of looking at the next 10 games? Injuries, suspensions, postponed games. You can't predict any of these so there is zero point in thinking you can predict results. Focus on the next game.

13 Sep 2013 13:22:30
I dunno about other reds but I am having kittens about who will play at RB against the Swans- I am not sure Wisdom is quite ready and Swansea are very strong on the wings- can ILLori play at RB or is he also one for the future? Eds? {Ed002's Note - It'll be fine.}

I think wisdon is great in RB but looks bit shaky in CB. I think it will him him who starts.

13 Sep 2013 10:40:01
Heartfelt congrats to BR and Danny Sturridge on their respective premier league manager of the month and player of the month awards for August.
YNWA

13 Sep 2013 09:14:01
That time again, another topic! let's go

The CB AND RB dilemma on Monday night!

Right, so we have agger, who will 100% start, after that we have Skrtel, who took his chance brilliantly in the last game, almost deserves the chance I think!

After that, you have Kolo, who before the injury, was unbelieveable, couldn't fault him

Then we have Sakho, and honestly, why would you pay 16 million or there abouts for a player to sit on a bench.

Ilori is the next option, how about him at RB, pace, has experience there is he an option?

Finally, we have the likes of kelly, and Wisdom who done terrific when he came on against Man Utd.

SO. What are all your thoughts? DISCUSS!

Thanks a lot

ps. Amazing problem to have.

I think our best bet against swansea would be a flat back three agger skrtel toure/sakho

a cdm in lucas two cms in gerrard and hendo enrique on left flank moses on right coutinho in behind the striker and sturridge the striker.
this gives us a lot of fluidity in the centre of the park and a flat back three of agger skrtel and sakho should be terribly difficult to score against for swans.
i am going for a 3-5-1-1 formation here with the flank players in enrique and moses being the workhorses for the team, moving up and down as required. also a 6 man midfield should stop swansea's passing game.
they would have to try something different which would give us the upper hand in the game.
however this would mean no chance for wisdom and kelly, which would be so unfortunate. but with our team as of now I think a flat back three is going to give us a lot of solidarity against teams that do not operate much from the flanks.

But with 3 Clean Sheets, do you really think it's right to change the formation that much? I don't think so.

13 Sep 2013 10:05:18
akrubbish there is 4 cbs in your flat back 3, i'm just wondering with sakho and agger both left sided cbs could they play together jamie carragher seems to think it will be difficult, although in a back 3 I could see skrtel, sakho, agger working and if skrtel doesn't fit in ilori looks a real good player to cover skrtel.

13 Sep 2013 10:17:47
Akrubbish, have you watched Swansea mate? Virtually all their penetration comes from over lapping full backs and pacey wide men, who then cut it back for Pablo, Michu and Bony. Playing without full backs against them would be suicide!
I'd play our normal game. 4-2-3-1 with Wisdom at right back, Enrique at left back, and an Agger-Sakho partnership in the middle. They have so much pace, its crucial our centre backs are fast enough to keep up with the play. I'd even consider Ilori at right back to help counter Davies, their left wing back. Lucas and Gerrard will be the midfielders with an attacking trio of Henderson, Coutinho and Aspas in behind Sturridge. Moses should not just walk into a winning team. If Toure was fit, I wouldn't even expect Sakho to do that. If we play the game we know, and maintain the tempo in the second half, Swansea will be out classed.

YNWAdam

Agree with the Adam on this one! It's just the way Swansea play!

Don't think playing with two left footed CB's will be a problem to be fair, they are good enough to work it out!

Thanks

13 Sep 2013 11:30:00
I swear to god Ak, I typed your name exactly as it is spelt and It automatically changed it to that! I was not trying to be offensive or rude, despite how that made the comment look. My apologies.

YNWAdam {Ed002's Note - There is nothing we can do to prevent this and it is likely he will need to change his name at some point.}

Anybody think br could play sakho at lb? he's done a job there before wisdom/Kelly, skrtel/toure, daggers, sakho. its an option.

Hey Griff3003! personally no, not the way Enrique has played recently.
Thanks

Wisdom at RB, Enrique at LB and if Toure is fully fit, him and Agger in the middle, but a lovely headache to have, as Sakho should be starting too!

Ed002, if that word is a problem for your swear filter, can you put a space either side to make it realise it's the word that's at fault and not those particular letters in that order? {Ed002's Note - We don't have the time nor the inclination to do that.}

Hello!
i said try that formation!
and if it works against swansea it will work against all teams! because I know out of all teams in epl its swansea who have the most fluid attack from flanks .
ps - I don't give a damn what u call me or not, just as long we communicate about our beloved club.

Personally I would go with wisdom, skrtle, agger and enrique.
Kelly and toure coming back from injuries might be risky, and sakho has just arrived, swansea would be throwing him in at the deep end a bit (not to mention skrtle deserves to start after man u game.)