Liverpool Banter Archive March 13 2012
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13 Mar 2012 23:28:20
I hope we continue with the same team and style of play on Sunday, great play by all the players, excellent response to the other day disappointment.
abbs
13 Mar 2012 23:23:06
A cracking performance by the whole team tonight. Carroll was superb, spearing ran midfield and kelly just mr consistency,suarez unplayable. But one of the most important selections tonight was where Gerrard played in his best position where he can be in danger areas and punish the opposition with spearing holding and giving gerrard the freedom to go forward.
There is one thing about tonight is that the fickles and doom mongers are going to be bored but i am sure will find something to whinge about.
Mighty reds
13 Mar 2012 23:21:46
KK not quite done yet then.... If only we could put in performances like this on a consistent basis, not just the big games
It's amazing the difference in our team when there's a little bit of pace and drive in our central midfield, provided by Steven Gerrard. You can only imagine how our season could have panned out had we had our captain all season.
The defence looked solid. Carra and Skrtel looked fairly comfortable. Jose was good in defence, but looked much better in possession than he has done in recent months. Martin Kelly was outstanding, very good going forward (he could improve his finishing though..) and solid in defence, it's fair to say Glen will have a job on his hands to get back in the team if Martin carries on like this.
Midfield was transformed by the return of Gerrard, we had midfield runners coming from all angles, whilst Jay Spearing held the fort effectively. Hendo as always worked hard, looked tidy, bar losing possession a couple of times a decent performance. Spearing was his usual busy, bustling self, which allowed Gerrard more freedom to roam. Gerrard played really well, took his goals well, drove the team on, Charlie Adam take note, that is how you control a game. Downing again frustrates me, too often he finds himself in central midfield, when he is more effective out wide. One brilliant cross for Kelly's chance apart, he provided little threat.
It's amazing what happens when KK puts our £57m strike force to work. Luis was much more effective as he wasn't marked by 2 defenders. Luis was a live-wire, making clever runs, brilliant footwork, put 2 goals on a plate for Gerrard. The difference today was he had consistent support in the shape of Gerrard and Carroll, something he has lacked too often this season. Carroll was good, linked the play well, won plenty of flick-ons, could have scored but pushed a shot wide. I hope KK plays the 2 together for the rest of the season.
This result gives us momentum going into the Stoke game, I really hope KK resists the urge to rotate too much. Bellamy for Downing would be my only change for the weekend, fitness permitting.
RedSG
I know the emphasis these days is to change the side to suit the opposition but I loved the eighties when 9 or 10 players were nailed on to play every week. They knew each other's style and movement inside-out and there were less panini stickers to collect
cozinoz
13 Mar 2012 23:20:25
Suarez looked like a Liverpool player tonight.
Kept his feet (most of the time), worked hard in attack and defence, and passed to players in better positions as a first choice (not just when he ran out of options). Just shows that skilful players can actually be more effective when they are also team players.
Totally agree, i thought after mourinho came in, ronaldo did the same, and my god he has improved so much. it would do the same for suarez if he starts becoming a team player. just look at messi, team player, scores, assists, what more do u want?
Kaizer
13 Mar 2012 23:16:16
ED Please post in Banter thanks
Some interesting facts about Graeme Souness as Liverpool Manager 1991-1994:
Was regularly known to have serious bust-ups with various players. Also known to throw teacups in the dressing room.
In November 1991, after Liverpool's 3“0 victory over Auxerre in a UEFA Cup Second Round second leg tie at Anfield, Liverpool manager Graeme Souness was met by Frenchman Michel Platini at the end of the game, who told him that Cantona was available for sale to Liverpool. Souness thanked Platini, but declined the offer, citing dressing room harmony as his reason.
One of Souness' final acts as manager was to force John Barnes to write him an official apology in the match program after the England winger had called him "abrasive" in an interview. Souness was not a people person.
Passing up the chance to sign Roy Keane from Nottingham Forest, considering him too much trouble off the pitch to be doing with.
Another Souness moment was on the Granada television "Kick Off" on the season's eve in 1991 when a Danish newcomer by the name of Peter Schmeichel was being interviewed ahead of his Manchester United debut the next day. Asked why he had chose to join United he (with a straight face) said that "Jan Molby told me to do it... Cue back to studio and Graeme's face is like thunder as Elton Welsby asks what he's going to say to Jan Molby. He did well to keep it tea-time viewer clean.
Removed and completely demolished the Anfield Boot Room.
PLUS: Story in S*n Hillsbrough Anniversary UNFORGIVEABLE.....Rubbish Players bought etc etc
Great Player...Poor Manager...We won the FA Cup under him.
My point is that this man is why we are still trying to become a real force again in the League over 20 years later!!!!
Please continue to support KK and the team, and to give thanks and appreciation to Roy Evans, Gerard Houllier and Rafa Benitez for giving us our pride back and winning us important trophies albeit at the expense of the league, but even those guys couldn't repair the long lasting damage that Souness inflicted, so why get on KK's back he's only been back for 14 months!
Give him time and a chance please.
YNWA
Really interesting post, but while we could have had, we didn't and we are where we are. I was one who was suggesting that KK consider his position - and I'm not ashamed of my view.
Yes Souness took out so much and missed opportunities, the real issue with the club is the way it was run commercially. I hope we now have a 'firmer' financial footing because it's going to get MUCH tougher over the next few seasons to compete on and off the pitch, to do the former, that ball has to keep hitting the back of the net EVERY game.
Fabulous performance (SG: speechless) Kelly, Spearo - warriors! Saurez, Carroll - part of the team 1st to last. All round, brilliant!
Suffolkn'red YNWA
Well said that man !
Graeme Souness (as manager) and David Moores (for selling to Stadtler and Waldorf) are the two biggest mistakes in our illustrious history.
ANFIELDPETE {Ed001's Note - Moores made many many mistakes, selling to those two was not his worst, that was probably the best thing he did, because we got rid of him. It is sad to say, but those two were actually better owners, they improved the club off the field massively, in terms of merchandising etc. Moores was just a leech, draining money out of the club for nothing. In fact his only input was to undermine Roy Evans during his tenure, oh and to decide against doing anything about the stadium when Steve Morgan was ready to step in and sort it for us.}
Great post, very interesting.
Amazing to think about some of those players who could have signed, and how it may have changed LFC's fortunes 18-20 years ago, and where we might be today, maybe with 22 or 23 league titles.
w
I think this post should highlight something to all those who want Kenny out. When a new manager comes in, he wants to either tinker with the squad or make wholesale changes. Souness was the worst culprit for this, but can you imagine someone taking over now? It would mean more squad changes, until the new manager gets what he wants! Kenny hasn't got his squad yet, so time is needed!
Someone said recently, in the summer sell Henderson, Downing, Adam, Carroll etc! Shocking and go on another rebuilding process and have another 3/4 years until we get anywhere!
Time and a few tweaks is all we need to make us top 4 (at least) again.
Proud of the team last night, now go on a roll until end of season and that starts with the Stoke game.
Keith
13 Mar 2012 23:16:01
will this game affact our FA cup chances. Everton rested 5 players. We didn't. So if we lose come saturday, how happy will you guys be.
Bellamy and Adam were rested for tonight's match.
Keith
We're not playing on Saturday. Everton are with an early kick off. We're 4.00 Sunday.
You have to play your best available team in every game......full stop.
Besides, Everton have a much smaller squad so may feel they have to be a bit more canny......they obviously value the FA Cup more than the League given their lineup tonight.
Personally, versus Stoke I'd go for the same side we finished the match with tonight (Kuuyt for Hendo) but I'd consider Bellamy to start instead of Downing.
ANFIELDPETE
Adam was not rested ,he was dropped
Adam came in as backup to Gerrard. Gerrard was fit and we played 4-4-2 and needed Spearing, so Adam was benched, simple isn't it?;)
Keith
13 Mar 2012 23:14:45
Okay eds, might be a weird question here but do you think Dalglish is purposely not subbing players on to get ready for cup ties and get used to playing long matches so they dont get cramp in long cup matches? Just a thought.
BthekingB {Ed001's Note - personally I think he just doesn't want to use subs unless needed, nothing worse than making a sub and the game changing and letting the opposition in.}
If it aint broke.......
13 Mar 2012 23:03:44
Seriously why dont we play Kelly at right back infront of Johnson and push him up. It's been suggested many times but we still have'nt tried by any manager, quite strange really. Anyway great performance from us today, hopefully we can go on a good spell and push us up the table.
13 Mar 2012 22:59:30
Best team performance of the season, despite only one player getting all 3 goals.
Positives: We scored 3 goals from open play in one match
Our own players scored their first goals at Anfield this year
SG, LS and AC all played fantastically and linked up like a machine
Kelly was great, as was Enrique
Spearo held the shape like a master with some very improved passing, and we won our first home game of the year in the league.
The only concern I have is Henderson. I do think he will come good but he blows far too hot and cold on the wing. It was plain and simple to see that he could be the creative midfielder we've been crying for. One through ball for Kelly to shoot and another one for Suarez, leading up to the opener, just proves that along with his work rate, he should never touch the byline again. Oh and I think this is the formation we should adopt the rest of the season. Make Adam realize what it means to wear the shirt, I believe he's been the fulcrum which we have not been able to rely on. Sorry for the long post. YNWA! Enjoy the win!
NextGenRed
13 Mar 2012 22:58:17
Great win tonight BUT lets not get too carried away KD will probably drop Kelly for Johnson and Carroll for Kuyt and Gerrard for Adam again on Sunday and we will be back to square one again.....
Curled1
Johnson is out for a couple of weeks, so you are wrong there for a start and anyway, why shouldn't he change a few players for an FA Cup tie, all managers do it some worse than others. Take Moyes for a start, did it badly tonight, but who cares?
Keith
13 Mar 2012 22:56:30
Suarez doing what suarez sites best tonight! Any doubters I hope will now know better and know we can't get rid of him. Playing with a top class player in gerrard shows that anyone who thought that he was just skilful and not effective were wrong....i posted a couple days ago saying how the reason suarez wasn't effective was sure to the performances round him. Yes they were the same players except gerrard today but the performances were at a different level.
Also today showed the difference in adam and gerrard....different league! Great win
The difference was playing him with both Carroll and Gerrard in attacking roles, which allowed him far more freedom.
Does best tonight*
Has the freedom every game imo...just not the support usually (when hes most effective)
U cant expect a player like suarez to play well week in-week out unless he has good players around him. Plus yesterday's gameplan suited him. The same 11 shud play all the remaining games if we wanna salvage sumthing frm this season.
Indian Buzzer
13 Mar 2012 22:51:18
Buy chrsitian Tello and Podolski.
Sell carrol he isnt doing anything.
Keep Johnson.
You missed the game did you?
Carroll was winning hearders for fun. Held the ball up well. Played some nice though balls and that one pass out to Downing I thought Xabi was playing :D haha
Valley Red
I was watching the game while at work and I just could look every so often but I looked at the tv right when he hit that pass and had to take a second look before realizing it was Carroll. It was a great pass that just summed up his over all play today which was excellent.
Red Rat
Carroll played very well ,once he gets arun of games then we will see the real andy carroll
13 Mar 2012 22:50:35
A good win tonight. We've probably started winning 2 games to late now but c'est la vie. It highlighted several problems yet again:-
1. We are to reliant on Gerrard. We have got to learn to do without him for ordinary games and use him as a luxury for big games.
2. Our strikers aren't. Enrique probably had more shots towards goal than Suarez & Carroll combined - likewise Kelly. It's not good when your defenders are having more goes than your strikers.
3. We play better in big games. We have got to develop the same work ethic and desire to win as United.
But other than that it was a good all-round effort.
RED LENIN
Couldnt disagree with you more lad, where you watching the game tonight?
Carroll was fantastic, okay he didnt score but he terrored their back line all night, caused all sorts of problems!
I thought caroll did really well and shows some good touches.
Judge AC on the whole season not one game, look at his stats and performances then!.
Its easy to get 'cocky' after a 3-0 win!.
13 Mar 2012 22:50:24
U beat an Everton side resting players - give KK the job for life - he's a little gem lol
You beat what you're given. Everton played a defensive team and we won 3-0. If they'd played an attacking team they would have been embarrassed.
Didn't we rest players too? Bellamy for one, Johnson was out injured and Adam only made the bench and was unused!
Keith
And we were without Agger, Lucas, Johnson, Adam and Bellamy so what's your point then?
LIVERPRES
We were without 4 of our best players in Agger, Johnson, Lucas and Bellamy!
13 Mar 2012 22:50:03
Kenny out
All players out
Tealady out
Oh hang on....wrong texts....wait a minute, just let me get into the groove....here we go...
Brilliant, kk's a genius, carrol, hendo, stewy all world class tonight......Anyway, I jest
Well done lads. 3 points. Better balance tonight, again with Spearing in the slot allowing Stevie to bounce off, allowing Carroll to drop in and knit the play, and allowed Suarez to drop wide to pick up the ball and square defenders up. The spine of the team should now start to pick itself.
13 Mar 2012 22:49:26
Good result tonight, bit of a tun up really as we don't do well against the lesser teams as a rule
13 Mar 2012 22:49:16
Why cant some "fans" just be happy for at least tonight that we have just beaten our local rivals!
13 Mar 2012 22:42:29
lets not go overboard here, we won, but we've still got problems. Our midfield was often wide open, with Spearing too deep, & Stevie up the pitch. A better team than Everton would've exposed us. Downing & Henderson are trying, but I don't believe they are gonna make it for us. Both good football brains, but no drive or guts in either of them. Kuyt is still our best option on the right wing (actually, Johnson is, but that just aint happening). Carroll was outstanding tonight, mainly in defencive or deeper positions. Thats not why we paid £35m for him though is it?
Im pleased with the win, but I feel like it'll be same old s@@@ later in the season, against the likes of West Brom & Fulham.
Reality Star
Hi Reality Star - A bit of reality for you - none of that £35 million actually came out of your pocket! The owners spent it.
DM2012
Life must be really sad on your planet reality star. Even when when we win, you're disappointed. Even when Carroll has a good game, it's not enough. If we win the FA cup you will complain that we didn't win the league. If we win the league you will complain that we didn't win the champions league. If we win both, you will probably be disappointed that you have nothing to be disappointed about.
A moronic comment with more holes than swiss cheese.
LIVERPRES
There are some people (so-called fans) who just can't wait to see the back of Kenny. These antagonists are only too pleased when we lose, and cannot bare to see the team win while he's still in charge. I call them mancs. Singred
13 Mar 2012 22:41:14
Excellent team performance tonight!
I thought Enrique was immense, especially first half.
Good to see Carroll play well, Gerrard was class.
Really pleased we took our chances. Imagine if we had done that against Arsenal, we would have hammered them. Alot
Pauly H
13 Mar 2012 22:38:28
would liverpool fans like to see Stephen Warnock back at the club
Are you his mum?
13 Mar 2012 22:40:56
Fans negativity affects players. It does have an impact on the players and does affect them when fans are not backing the manager
13 Mar 2012 22:40:40
Earlier post said that Gerrard "is now well passed his use by date."
Bet you wish you could take that back.
Especially the 'passed' instead of 'past'.
He is pass his sell by date. He is over paid for what he delivers.
How much is a hat trick in a derby worth?
Priceless.
13 Mar 2012 22:38:28
I can't believe the progression Martin Skrtel has made, I mean, he has been ridiculously good this season!
The concerns I had with him in the past was that he was quite rash at times and not very good in possession of the ball. But he really looks like he's smoothed over the edges and become an all-round quality centre back.
If he keeps it up he's a cert for player of the season.
Stone YNWA.
Nosferatu has always been a great stopper, but I agree his on the ball play and decision making has improved dramatically in the last 12-18 months, and I struggle to think of a better CB pairing than him and Dagger when they're both fit. Plus, you can tell that Skrtel really loves the club, always celebrates like a man possessed!
Rugby Parker
13 Mar 2012 22:38:21
I was worried we will struggle with Johnson out injured as Kelly hasn't really shown any confidence in the attack. But he was electric tonight. Class. If he can carry on this run of good form then maybe Liverpool doesn't need a replacement if Johnson goes as isla will cost around 12m, money could be spent elsewhere. We also have Flanagan as a decent back up.
13 Mar 2012 22:38:13
Great result and well played. Our midfield looked very comfortable....Spearing excellent, thank god KD didnt start with Adam, could've been a different nite. But as we all know and love , KD could well throw a hugh curve ball for the Stoke game and reinstate Adam and play luis on his own.
daveinspain
13 Mar 2012 22:35:36
13 Mar 2012 13:49:31
I can't wait to read the comments after you lot get beat by Everton.
Carling cup and 9th this season LOL
Jermain
(6) (7)
If we beat the bitters tonite, can you promise to hold your tongue and run back to your mancs or spuds or chavs or wherever you come from. Thanks
Singred
(3) (2)
No, we will win tonight as it is against strong opposition. It's only Championship and mediocre Premier League teams we struggle against.
Honest Joe
(3) (0)
Singred its 9th place for Liverpool.
35M ON Carrol.
Jermain
(0) (2)
Jermain 17 years and counting ! And you lot laugh at us haha unlucky lad .
WHERE'S THAT BIG MAN JERMAIN NOW !
Happy anniversary MOYES oh and also a big shout out to that other big mouth bitter blue ROONEY after your twitter comments haha Once a blue always a laugh !
Thank you to whoever that put this post!
Jermain - its 9th place for Everton! Happy 10th Anniversary Moysie! LOL!
Singred
13 Mar 2012 22:31:12
6 - Newcastle-- 28 - -1 - 44
7 - Liverpool---- 28 - 7 - 42
8 - Sunderland- 28 - 5 - 37
9- Everton ---- 28 - -3 - 37
Where not going anywhere in our mini league. If we are lucky, we might finish 6th this season. Newcastle have done very well this season. Sunderland have performed well too.
Ok Bitter, Try hard u might get 7th or 8th. Don't give up just yet.
AJ
13 Mar 2012 22:30:53
i cant believe he only got 3. rubbish! ha
good team performance and elated with the win! this is the feeling i miss as a liverpool fan!
bring on the parked bus that is stoke! onwards and upwards!
big shout to kelly who had a good game and could of had a couple himself, also suarez with a couple of assists. and carrol seemed more confident in his touches.
aussiepool tristan
With Bellamy fresh for Sunday and if we play like we did tonight, Stoke's parked bus will get asked politely to move! Move that bus, eh?
Keith
13 Mar 2012 22:30:50
Hey, Doom mongers. What are you going to moan about tonight? The Kop were singing Dalglish's name on numerous occasions tonight. Beating Everton 3-0 must be an absolute nightmare for you. Top supporters - well done.
Someone came onto twitter and said Downing had a bad game! Did they watch the same match I did?
Keith
13 Mar 2012 22:30:34
Colette beats Wayne once again.
13 Mar 2012 22:29:58
Moyes 10 years in charge = no trophies and couple derby wins.
Dalglish 1 year in charge = 1 trophy and 2 derby wins.
Enough said eh lads ( TAKE THAT BITTERS )
Moyes sold himself short tonight, other football clubs where looking at him tonight. They wanted to see something special from him tonight and he didn't deliver.
We had a weeks worth of Moyes publicity. Everton beat Tottenham, chelsea, man city. A good win on sky sports tonight would of done his career a world of good. Maybe even the Tottenham, Chelsea or England job.
No come on, even though david moyes manages our rivals i still think he is a top manager. he has kept everton quite high in the league even with no funds..
13 Mar 2012 22:28:40
Anywhere I can see the highlights eds? I missed a goal because of my terrible internet connection. Is it on LFC TV Channel tonight perhaps?
BthekingB
Matchhilights.co.uk though u may have to wait till tomorrow or Footytube.com
AG
On tomorrow morning at 10am on LFCTV.
Keith
13 Mar 2012 22:27:02
Is Alex pregnant?
Stevie sucking thumb then putting match ball under shirt.
Jack the Goove
No, I think that Stevie was telling Alex what he wanted for supper.
DM2012
Again? lourdes is like 4 months old! i didnt get the thumb-sucking either, tho.
3rd Daughter. Baby Girl Lourdes born November 2011.
13 Mar 2012 22:26:14
Moyse has just said that he thought Everton were the better side! What game was he watching because it wasn't the one I saw this evening that's for sure! What a numpty......
That was one of the most dominating derby performances by LFC that I have seen in a long time. I thought Stevie and Luis were superb, but I would also like to give special mention to Andy Carroll, Kelly and Enrique because I thought they were also dominant in their relative positions.
Well done boys. Keep it going until the end of the season please and we may well end the season in a good place.
ConnorsLFC
13 Mar 2012 22:21:16
Thank Fowler the pessimists anonymous meeting has ended for the time being.
Great performance, more of the same against Stoke please.
YNWA
Billfaethetoun
13 Mar 2012 22:24:35
The rest of our games are all ones we can win. Get your stuff together lads and do it for us fans.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa
There are no definite wins at Liverpool lol.
13 Mar 2012 22:22:31
Gerrard, Suarez & Carroll have started together just twice and Liverpool FC have scored 9 goals in those two games.
they say don't change a winning side at the weekend, but bellamy for henderson would be our strongest 11 right now. downing on the right, bellamy on the left.
great result, great captain fantastic.
Downing on the right?? Might as well play gerrard as cb.
Indian Buzzer
13 Mar 2012 22:13:37
what a rubbish game tonight. I lost a small fortune {Ed003's Note - I had 3-1,ahh well, that's another quid wasted}
I had 0v0 half time then 1v1 full time.
DAMNED IF YOU DO (LOSE) AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T (WIN). I don't care if some fans don't wish to support Liverpool but can they have the decency to keep it to themselves and not waste valuable time for the Editors and sensible readers.
Dutchmal
I had 1-0 halftime 1-1 full tine
I had 3-1 :)
We all lost money tonight, just can't rely of liverpool doing what you expect them to do.lol
I had 0-0...........well, you can't really blame me !
ANFIELDPETE
13 Mar 2012 22:12:35
don't fans think this win has just papered over the cracks. Gerrard turned it on tonight. But he won't turn it on against wigan or bolton. That team likes to coast lesser games.
Thanks for the negativity after a good win. Part of our problem is people like you.
Remove Gerrard and it would of been 0v0 game. Question of the squad as a whole
Part of our problem is people thinking that everything is honky dory after a win. Sure it was a good result but we still have the same problems we had before this game. A win just papers over the cracks for the rose coloured glasses brigade.
Steve
The rose coloured glasses brigade are people who actually support the club. We had a win tonight dips**t, so why not just shut up for 24 hours if you can't get any enjoyment from it.
Dips**t! Really? Intelligent response from the rose coloured glasses brigade again. Those who fail to see anything other than what they want to see.
Steve
I know what ya can do with that paper.
13 Mar 2012 22:10:10
Suarez, Gerrard, Enrique, Kelly even Carrol had Great Games, Attacking Quality through out the entire match, Stuffed the blues And no negative posts surprise surprise...
MJ
Y.N.W.A
Don't forget Spearing. Great game as DM allowed Gerrard to get forward. Same as Carroll allowed Suarez to play deeper and run into space.
13 Mar 2012 22:17:16
Dare I say it but I was mighty impressed with Carroll's contribution tonight. Touch wood he has finally begun to find some form.
Don't you mean a work rate. Most of other games he likes to stand and watch.
13 Mar 2012 22:17:03
I hope kenny plays the same team on sunday carrol played well tnyt take a bow gerrard and cum on fa cup STEMLOCC
13 Mar 2012 22:09:57
I hope that this win would prove to be a catalyst for us. Wonderful performance by all on the field, today. I hope, we'd continue with more of this formation. Great play by all, especially Carroll, he looked quite wonderful 2night. At the end, well! there can nothing be better than a hat-trick 2nite by Captain Fantastic. YNWA
13 Mar 2012 22:09:27
This was the best home performance of the season. Stevie was class but I've got to mention Martin Kelly, Luis Suarez, Andy Carroll, Luis Enrique, Martin Srktel and Jay Spearing as the stand-out performers tonight with Jamie do his best to remind us all of his better years at Liverpool. More important was the fact that finally we played as a team with some brillant interchange between Suarez, Gerrard and Carroll in particular. Shades of Toshack and Keegan as well as that augurs well for the furture. Also there was very good movemen off the ball. Well done KK...we have faith in you.
13 Mar 2012 22:09:07
very disapointed by everton today, David moyes allowed liverpool to win. I hate watching games where one manager has given up before the game has begun. Everton could of put out a more attacking team.
I hope stoke beat them.
Thats why your called " BITTERS " well done keep living up to your name lads ha
Oh soooo Bitter... LOL
Phooey
Moyes left 5 of better players on the bench. It's that Moyes cares more about the FA cup than this derby.
T Cahill
L Osman
P Neville
K Jeitinga
N Jelavic
13 Mar 2012 22:08:53
What a well deserved win, especially over those bitters! Thank you to our MOTM and hattrick hero Stevie G! His best game in a while. Special mention to Luis for his assists and to Kelly and Enrique! Press on! Message for moaners and groaners - piss off! We can win without you! Singred
Amen to that
Andy C
13 Mar 2012 22:07:55
That game should be remembered by the so-called 'realists' on this site with your half-full cups.
-Carra was a rock and will not be retiring just yet
-Suarez was unselfish and rarely moaned
-Andy Carroll was immense and a vital cog in the team
-Spearing was vital to the team
-Gerrard is NOT ready to be sold
-Kenny Dalglish got his tactics spot on
Yes, it was only one game and the posts will pour in about 'papering over cracks' but believers, supporters and the cup half-full brigade will know this kind of performance is what our team is capable of (without Aguero, Hazard and a new manager).
Well done boys - great result all round YNWA
cozinoz
Top post.
Stu.
Cozinoz, one decent game from Carragher hardly makes him worth keeping. How quickly you for get his last game he played was really poor. Face the fact he is past it.
Steve
I think his performance showed he is not past it, Steve. He needs consistency and can obviously contribute for a while longer. He has been poor a lot of the season and rightly replaced by Agger but he's still an asset as proved against Everton.
cozinoz
Tbh, one game doesnt change everything. Who knows this win might just be another papering over the cracks? I wont be convinced unless we win atleast 3 in a row, starting frm qpr.
Indian Buzzer
Wow....Indian Buzzer in negative post shocker
13 Mar 2012 22:03:55
Steven Gerrard what a fantastic player. Kelly - showed why he should be ahead of Johnson. Suarez showed real class at the end.
Tekneek
13 Mar 2012 22:02:30
KK
Don't change the team
Pistol Pete
13 Mar 2012 22:02:12
What a performance boys! What a performance!
The passing was slick, movement on and off the ball was fantastic!
Carroll, Downing and Henderson all had good games! I was really impressed with some of Henderson's passes tonight! Well done son!
Our 2 fullbacks were brilliant! Kelly is a star for the future and Enrique must be the best 5-6 million I have seen spent on a player in a long time!
The Gerrard/Suarez/Carroll trio worked a treat! Their link up and interplay was immense!
I wanna congratulate Captain Gerrard on his 400 appearances and Hat Trick tonight! You really are Mr Liverpool! I SALUTE YOU SIR!
GREAT NIGHT, GREAT PERFORMANCE!
Y.N.W.A
K.Bennett
Totally agree with your comments. Did anyone have a bad game, don't think they did? I was most impressed with Suarez at the end, he was unselfish to pass the ball for Gerrard to get his third!
Our captain is back and look what you are missing England!
Keith
Well said Mr Bennett. Lot's of positives from tonights game. Let's hope we can continue like that from now until May.
13 Mar 2012 22:01:51
Well that, my red friends, was awesome! 3-0 win, tremendous performance, and it'll shut up some of the moaners for a little while!
Looked different class against Everton, solid performances everywhere, and Stevie G and Suarez together were lethal. Passing from front to back seemed quicker and more direct, good movement, solid at the back, just a great derby performance. Honourable mention to big Andy, didn't score but looked good all game, was always getting back to help the defence, and looked very loose towards the end, showing off good footwork and great passing. All in all, i'm one happy red.... now watch some f****r ruin it!
Rugby Parker
13 Mar 2012 22:00:13
Captain fantastic is back!
The Rob.
13 Mar 2012 21:59:42
like to give special praise to big andy who i thought was excellent and linked up well with luis!maybe some of you haters should give the big man a break cause i think he deserves it!sevie g true legend!!!!!!!!!
13 Mar 2012 21:58:42
Wot, no Kenny haters and sell the squaders here just now? Surprise surprise.
ND
Ok then, I still think Kenny should shove off. 1 win doesnt change anything.
Steve
Diddums, Steve - moaning again.
13 Mar 2012 21:57:02
About time - good performance
Hessle Red
13 Mar 2012 21:56:08
Unbelievable! Well done to all the lads. Hendo had a cracker! Kelly had his best game in a liverpool shirt and I think Spearing deserves credit for allowing Gerrard to go forward. Andy did well as well and Suarez did well with some great trickery. Happy with the result but phenomenal performance from some players who were on the brink of getting sold.
BthekingB
Hendo was crap mate. Everyone else played well
Henderson was carp in first half , but picked up in the second and was instrumental for the second goal. So probably a decent game for him .
AJI
13 Mar 2012 21:54:21
Kk for the sack...we only beat Everton 3 nil.... He has to go ;-)
Get real people
Speedy
13 Mar 2012 21:54:12
Keep the faith, we can still do this boys!
maka
YNWA JFT96
13 Mar 2012 21:53:48
Steven Gerrard: Our best midfielder. Our best striker.
Nice response Stevie.
Coop
13 Mar 2012 21:52:11
Defo need to keep Suarez what a class act gave gerrard his hat trick, you can tell stevey was appreciative.
KingMiz
13 Mar 2012 21:51:06
Does this win mean absolutely anything for our season now?
Yes, it means we beat Everton and got 3 points. Don't you understand how the league thing works?
Means we are 10 points off 4th with 10 to play.
Inappropriate whine alert.
13 Mar 2012 21:47:04
Andy Carroll has been absolute top class tonight, fantastic on the ball, very strong and winning the ball all over the park!
Definitely needs a special mention - won most his headers, great close ball control, stunning long-range pass in the second half - the best game I've seen him play in red. Well done, Andy
cozinoz
Whoever disagreed obviously didn't watch the game.
Dont rate carrol at all, but he had a good game. Shud have scored frm suarez's pass though.
Indian Buzzer
Just like you to highlight the only thing that didn't work for him, Buzzer, youre a cretin
cozinoz
13 Mar 2012 21:37:53
Cant believe this is only Gerrards 400th league game, Thats shocking, He is always injured
What a pathetic comment and shame on those who agreed. Stevie has been a regular for 13 seasons so that works out at over 30 games a season. Only 4 other players have played over 400 games in premier league history.
13 Mar 2012 21:33:44
We look better without charlie adam.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa
13 Mar 2012 21:33:21
Wud've subbed Henderson for Maxi. Has he done something? Cant seem to even get a cameo role these days.
Trishan
Thought hendersons ball through to suarez for gerrards second was excellent - he gets so much stick and very few seems to see the work he does.
Andy C
It was well done by Hendo passed to Luis and stormed into the box, deserves just as much credit as LZ and SG for the second.
ChinUp
13 Mar 2012 21:31:25
God, Gomez has stuffed 4 passed Basel tonight, we really have to break the bank for him, he's really a great player.
Sooty
Meanwhile, Liverpool beat arch rivals 3-0
13 Mar 2012 21:28:19
Gr8 nite - mite be enough to save KKs job and as a non Lpool fan that can only be a good thing lol
13 Mar 2012 21:27:43
Martin Kelly is superb!
13 Mar 2012 21:26:16
Kelly could of had a hattrick today lol!
Well played though Kelly son showing real attacking prowress
13 Mar 2012 21:25:29
on another positive note tony silva has scored again.... he should be given a chance in pre-season to see if he will be ready for the next campaign
the southern red
13 Mar 2012 21:20:47
Well done Toni Silva on scoring for Northhampton!
Great talent.
InTheKnow
13 Mar 2012 21:20:02
Carroll and Enrique looking like Hulk twins today! Absolutely rock solid!
sama491
13 Mar 2012 21:15:40
There's the problem! It's all about tempo. Against good teams or in a derby, the tempo is automatically in the game, but against lesser teams it's not. We are more pedestrain, especially at home.
The Irish Rover
13 Mar 2012 21:13:51
Indian buzzer? Seems to have disappeared just like the Toffee's winning streak ;)
sama491
Yeh where's ash, indian buzzer and red turk as well, being the "realists" they are id have thought theyd have been on here expressing their balanced views on things with the exception of indian buzzer who would still have moaned about carroll, despite the fact he was excellent tonight!
Andy C
Wait for our next 0-0 draw and you won't be able to stop Buzzer's negative verbal diarrhoea
They're only happy when its raining.
Lol add serbaian red, red indian etc etc. Anyway back to sanity for this site atleast until Sunday 6PM
AJ
How abt criticize me after we win 5 games or so in a row? One good performance doesnt change things at all. Who knows if it was just another false dawn? But i will give andy carrol credit. Played really well. Plus i hope adam doesnt play regularly for us. Just doesnt fit into our style of play.
Indian Buzzer
I could have sworn we were still 7th in the league Andy!
It was a good performance, one that underlines the importance of Suarez to our team and, more importantly, having a quality player to play near him.
My opinion is still the same though. I'm not fickle and therefore won't be changing my opinion. I'm very happy with a win though.
Ash
Ah can someone give me a hand with this, hooked two of em and cant land em both.
Buzzer - so we shouldnt criticise you until we've won 5 in a row, ok but you bitch and moan even when we draw, so where is the parity there?
Ash, i never said you were fickle just depressing, ok ash so being as you're not fickle does that mean even if you were proved to be wrong you wouldnt change your mind? yeh that would be fickle as opposed to being mature and being able to admit when you are wrong? Oh and how did you think Carroll did tonight, i know you're his biggest fan...lol
Andy C
Andy, if I was wrong, of course I would change my mind “ that isn't being fickle. Changing your mind each week like some on hear do is being fickle. Changing my mind once in several years would not be fickle. I must re-iterate that we are a long, long way off you being able to get on your high horse yet. He played quite well did AC, I have admitted, however he has a very long way to go. For me, we would be better served bringing in a striker to compliment Suarez better as yesterday showed how well he can play with a cleverť player near him (think Meireles for a time too.)
Ash
Ash,
Im not getting on my horse just yet, and if he turns out not to be a success then i will put my hand up, but i have said previously he has potential and he is starting to show it now, not the finished article by any means but i have seen enough to give him time which is far more than others seem prepared to do, i take what you're saying about someone to compliment suarez, but meireles isnt a striker and neither is stevie, and frankly meireles is dross, weak in the tackle and disappears from games. I think AC does compliment him well, he offers a completely different threat, but we shall see whether they form a partnership of worth in the coming months and hopefully seasons assuming luis doesnt pop off to paris.
Andy C
13 Mar 2012 21:13:48
Well its taken a hell of a lot longer than i expected but i think its safe to say we will get to the magical 40 point mark tonight, So no relegation for us this season, Cant wait til this season is over, get rid of kenny and his shambles signings and kick on for next season, ynwa eric
How could we possibly kick on if we sold half the squad and rebuilt for the third time in 3 seasons?
We need consistency and we need to have faith in the players and manager.
You'll Never Walk Alone (in case you forgot what it stood for)
Billfaethetoun
What a numpty! you should be ashamed to use YNWA! Singred
Do you need a hug, eric?
You'll never walk alone eric. There are plenty of pathetic excuses for Liverpool supporters, like yourself, who will be with you.
13 Mar 2012 21:11:47
Say No More whoever said Steven Gerrard has lost it slap yourselves now!
KingMiz
Three times!
ChinUp
13 Mar 2012 21:11:07
unless liverpool implode guess dalglish has another week in charge for all you haters to moan about. lol.
huddz red
If only that was true, I am sure they will still find something else to moan about Ross
13 Mar 2012 21:10:26
Nice pass Jordan Henderson!
Lyndon.
What a ball from carrol
I'm only guessing but One of the "Young not been at the club long" Slaggers
Disagreed!!
What a surprise thought you'd be Busy
"Picking tonights Victim"
Lyndon
13 Mar 2012 20:58:45
SteiveG - Cool as a cucumber!
Tekneek
13 Mar 2012 20:58:07
Absolutely fantastic goal. Again flashes of real quality in our play. Hope KD doesnt throw the 'park the bus ' mentality into the ring too early.
The Bitters must throw on Jelevic(?) soon, it cause us a prob or 2.
DaveinSpain
13 Mar 2012 20:36:01
thats why he's the captain!
BthekingB
Also did you notice it came from the speed of the counter attack. thats what happen when there is pace in attack, this is how we should play - with pace.
huddz red
Thats what you get when Adam is on the bench! {Ed016's Note - couldn't agree more on current form, not to say he couldn't work harder}
13 Mar 2012 20:35:09
Oh look... First 10 minutes we played attacking football now we have reverted back to our defensive shell and making sure we have bodies back but not enough going forward
Get in ...... Stevie G
Did stevie catch you mid whine?
3-0?!! Will you miserable lot pack it in!
13 Mar 2012 20:18:13
hey eds any good sites to watch the match on ? {Ed002's Note - Try myp2p.pe}
First row sports
13 Mar 2012 19:52:11
i think give king kenny another year and c how well we do...and hope the players we signed play lots better and just goind and get a midfielder and a striker and we will b back were we belong
13 Mar 2012 19:48:54
i think give King kenny another year and if no good get rid and get me in there lol y.w.n.w.a.
13 Mar 2012 19:34:06
What's on the tee shirts the first team are wearing to warm up tonight? {Ed003's Note - Sport's Relief }
Great lfc court more controversy! Ed is no one in charge at Anfield?
13 Mar 2012 19:33:50
wheres bellamy today
taran
Evening all, I fear for Hendo 2night. Hope Carra has been on the pro plus!
Kenny selections are becoming predictably unhinged.
daveinspain
Rested for Sunday so my uncle says he's at the game.
King luis
How stupid this post seems now !
Yeh that through ball he played was terrible.....jesus i despair
Andy C
Please can we have unhinged every week now please.
ND
13 Mar 2012 19:29:16
Henderson again! at home when Spearo is playing!....what in twickenham has Maxi done wrong?! never mind Jonjo.....even Dirk should start before him, Please Kenny stop with this Justification thing!
YNWA JFT96
So how big a slice of humble pie should i cut for you, its ok you can have a big piece, because i've baked a few for the rest of the moaning brigade.
Andy C
13 Mar 2012 19:27:53
After just seeing the Liverpool team for tonight I'm still worried about Carra in the team. Maybe the fact that it's a derby might get an extra 10% out of him but he doesn't fill me with confidence. I was hoping that Gerrard might have played just behind either Suarez or Carroll, just like he did a few years back behind big Crouch & then Torres. I really believe that was his best & most succesful position. Gerrard would get the best out of Carroll playing up front with him.
The Irish Rover
13 Mar 2012 19:24:23
not to be negative and i know tonights game will all be about passion but wrong decision to start carra hes past it unfortunately glad to see adam not starting might realise now that he needs to perform better in future a little bit unsure why kuyt not playing seem to relish these games unlike henderson but hope im proved wrong !! come on andy backed you all the way lets get some balls in the box and bury these the toffee pansies! not one to want to paper over the cracks but tonight i make exceptions !! YNWA
13 Mar 2012 19:15:50
0v0 first half, like a european final, 1v1 second half, to score after 76minute. Very tight game. Expect alot of yellow cards, Kenny is looking for the draw
13 Mar 2012 19:13:24
I'm supportive of KK but disappointed that it looks like Hendo is being played wide right although I'm pleased there's no Adam.
Would like to have seen Kuyt and Bellamy in but lets hope AC puts a performance in.
I can understand the inclusion of Carra in this game
Come on you redmen!
Chris in Tamworth
Agree Carra's the right choice, Coates takes to much time on the ball at the moment and as we know time isn't given in the derby.
KT!
13 Mar 2012 19:10:13
Can't quite believe the amount of utter garbage that has been posted in the last few days. Embarrassing.
As long as The King has belief that he can make our great club successful again, he will have my full loyalty.
Long live The King.
Jatt YNWA
Well put Jatt YNWA
Red&Bred
13 Mar 2012 19:08:40
On behalf of united nations geneva convention I want to call for temperory truce between all reds I.e those who like kenny or not..
For now its just 1 thing..
Common u reds..let's beat everton..
We all are together as 1..
Red indian
Finally you sound like a real supporter.
MIKEY
13 Mar 2012 18:53:08
Kelly's cahnce to shine with Johnson out for a little while.
Starting today with the winner over the bitters.
KT!
13 Mar 2012 18:25:48
Hope we lose tonight and here's why:
1. Kenny needs to understand the problems we have another win may very well distract him from the problems of the squad.
2. We are out of the hunt for 4th spot and europa league is secured
3. A loss would hopefully convince Kenny to blood some of the acedamy players on a more regular basis between now and the end of the season
4. A loss may also help Kenny see that his time is up at the club and for him to inform the owners to step up the search for his replacement
5. A loss may also lead to Kenny focussing more on the FA Cup and hopefully to win it before he goes
6. Commoli would also have more time to work on summer Transfer Targets knowing that Kenny won't be around
666
I'll never understand this sort of "support"
This is a joke right? Surely this can't be from one of out own. Don't want to take the bait but in struggling.
Good team out tonight, hopefully get at them from the off and get a much needed morale boosting win.
Come on boys, show them what we can do.
Andy the red
I stopped reading after 'I hope we lose tonight'.
davethebutcher
I have never and will never hope that liverpool lose. what is wrong with you
NZL_RED
I suggest you go find another hobby!
To say you hope they lose is Truly Shocking
Hang your head.
Lyndon
13 Mar 2012 18:25:41
Some people on here say "supporters stick with the team through thick an thin" blah blah blah. You're wrong, a true supporter knows how to see the flaws as well as the merits.
A person that doesnt see the flaws and follows regardless of evidence shown is a fanatic.
Ask yourself these few questions then tell me if you still think that you're a true supporter...
1. Did you follow hodgeson through thick and thin while he was manager or did you want him gone as well?
2. How about Houllier?
3. How about Rafa?
No? Guess youre not a true fan then are you? It's rubbish all this talk of not being a true fan if you offer some ciritcism or heaven forbid state your dissatisfaction. Paisley and Shanks would have no problem telling this team that it is poor, that they lack conviction. Paisley and Shanks would also have no problems telling Kenny he is not performing, they would not just ask for blind unwavering support like sheep. They understood that being a fan of this club meant having a brain as well as a heart. Anyone who pays money to watch or buy a shirt or even sky TV has the right to be dissatisfied with our league position.
Paisley and Shankly would deem our league position absolutely unacceptable. If they wouldnt think its good enough neither should we...and I cant understand why Kenny and some players think winning the FA Cup would make up for not winning a title, or even finishing 4th. Winning those cups is great but I'd rather be the number one ranked team in this country, I'd rather strive for league success not league cup success.
So those sat there now ready to slate me for criticising Kenny... ask yourself who are you really supporting? Dalglish? or Liverpool?
Spot on
Dalglish
Dalglish is the manager of Liverpool FC - he gets my full support until he no longer holds that position. That doesn't mean he isn't open to criticism but you won't find me crying for his head after a few bad performances. Let the owners decide who the manager is and let the manager decide who the players are......not the fans. We're there to SUPPORT whichever team is put out.
Did you support Hodgeson every minute that he was LFC manager? I'll bet not.
13 Mar 2012 18:24:46
New Managers:
1> Squad Changes
2> BackRoom Changes
3> respect of senior players (steven gerrard)
These are expensive things:
You have to remember that new manager will want to sack the whole backroom staff. This will be expensive venture.
Senior Players such as Steven Gerrard gave Roy Hodgson little or no respect. So who ever comes in will need to deal with these players.
The sale and purchase of players is another huge expense.
J-Henry lfc is a business. A complete management change would be out of the question for a true business man. He is unlikely to waste money sacking kenny.
I would sack Damien Comolli, he seem to be a waste of space.
Pepe? Kuyt? Carragher? Fabio?
13 Mar 2012 18:23:32
Blimey how many clubs is hazard gonna mention!?.......c'mon lads let's do the business! YNWA
Square tomato
Hazard is becoming a bit of a hore with his flirting with anyone and everyone. Has bags of skill and pace, no class though.
Andy the red
All the big names will be bad mouthed now that u lot have no chance of signing them
Ye he don't help Himself.....you lot? Who's you lot? And I don't recall saying we would get him.
Square tomato
13 Mar 2012 18:18:58
I hope Kenny doesn't start with Spearing,as I believe he's a liability.I have heard him say that if he goes flying in, the crowd will get behind him.In this day and age if you go steaming in you are giving a card therefore restricting future challenges.He can't run,gives the ball away to much.waves his hands and acts like Carra.He doesn't excite me in anyway he's just an average footballer.
The same goes for Adam and kuyt
13 Mar 2012 18:40:44
Suarez not even on the bench!
Cuz he's starting?
Yes he is
taran
Spot on mate he's playing. Tit.
MIKEY
13 Mar 2012 18:37:29
Team v everton
Reina
Kelly carragher skrtel Enrique
Henderson spearing gerrard downing
Carroll Suarez
SullyRed YNWA
13 Mar 2012 18:16:10
First off, let me say I am not a liverpool fan. I am a madrid fan. I have a lot of respect for Liverpool (as most people in spain do) and really do believe that you are one of the greatest clubs of all time.
People have been saying recently that they dont want Benitez back as they want to look to the future not the past. Thats fine but isnt Kenny the past? He was a great player, he was a great manager (tactically I still think he is astute as you have played some truly beautiful football at times) but is he STILL a great manager? It's debatable to say the least. He has trouble motivating his players against lesser opposition, seems to believe that its still 1984 and british players are excellent (when was the last time ANY british nation did well in a national tournament?), and also seems out of touch with the modern media.
Kenny has embarassed you just as often as Suarez has with his flippant remarks and strange statements. Personally I feel for him, he is a legend not just for your team but in football in general and its unpleasant to see a revered figure go down this way, the world moved on from the 80's and 90's he is still stuck there. I can tell you now, you will never win a league or Champs league with a team made up mainly of british players. Your league may be the best in the world but only because its made up of foreign players, if it were made just of british players it would be exactly like the scottish league, which is further cemented by the fact all your best players are foreign (except Gerrard and he has been poor for a couple of seasons now).
I hope that things improve and that Kenny finds his way again because like I said I respect the history of your club and of Dalglish, but history can only take you so far...speaking as a Madrid fan I know that you cant just demand to win things because of your history. You need to earn it.
Raul
Going hundreds of millions of euros in debt to try to catch Barca. You lot earned it alright.
Raul seems you english is a mite too good for you to be spanish.
I am czech and I rarely complete any post without spelling mistakes yet I have lived and worked in an English speaking country for over twenty years and speak and write perfect english for work however I still think in czech.
As for Gerrard he has not been "poor" for years.
Something about your post is not quite right son, would you like to tell us who you really are and remove the mask?
Jonny
Who are Madrid?
Very good english for a spanish person eh?? where do you live??
Shanio1
Kenny with flippant remarks! Mourinho has made a career out of creating controversy before every important match. No manager has made such an utter fool of himself as Mourinho.Only difference is that the press loves it. And Suarez shaming us, Ronaldo is just about the most selfish immature tit in football history so far!
You are having a laugh right?
ChinUp
I live in England and have done for 10 years but was born and raised in Madrid. Just because I speak and spell English better than some English people does not mean anything.
I've been speaking English my whole life as I have been raised bi lingual
Raul
Mourinho may cause controversy but he causes something better than that too... success. As for Ronaldo, yes he is childish petulant and arrogant. He is also a Ballon D'or winner, how many of those have been english?
I like Liverpool I'm even watching the game tonight and hoping you win.
Raul
What were you saying about gerrard, ask zidane how good he is... that post was gassed
13 Mar 2012 18:10:04
Look if we keep playing with that level of commitment then we will have more good days than bad, we just need that wee bit of luck and well add up the kit deals at the end of the season and see were we finish.
In no way shape or form Im I taking the mick outta Roy sorry Kenny.
TIME TO GO
Why do you keep posting crap?!?! Why dont you just shut up and watch the damn match!!!!
KiwiRed
13 Mar 2012 18:09:14
I really recommend Kenny's book My Liverpool Home. Just finished reading it and loved it. YNWA
ChinUp
F*** his book I want 3 points
The book is great. Recommend it aswell
13 Mar 2012 17:59:00
Lfc are in free fall, Kenny out, Suarez out, Kenny has lost it, Were all doomed Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah ... An i thought we classed other fans as bitter 90% of fans on this site need to just shut up and support the club. Some will say well we pay the players wages by going games so i can moan if i want to and others will say we are so far down the table its so bad we will never climb it again EVVVEEERRRRRRR!!!!... Seriously though guys YES its been a bad season but to turn your back on something you love...Sort yourselves out and just Support the club...Turn your frown upside down...Be jolly, Happy, Think positive and if you cant do that just SHUT THE F@CK UP!!!!!
MJ
Who is turning their back on the club?
Keeping your much shut is akin to apeasement!
Would you like to tell Kenny the excelleeeent job he is doing?
666
How can it be a bad season we have won a trophy which is more than any other manager has given in 6 years, please go and support another club we don't need fans like you lot.
go and support cheleea or man city or man utd instead.
i'm so sick of these so called fans
Well said mate.lets have proper lfc attitude which is about togetherness nd support more when we are not wining .supporters are 12th man nd lets be like that.
He is doing a good a job as anyone could and when fans dont support and moan repeatadly and say Kenny out then they are turning their back...Could you do a better job 666...Fergie has been a great manager for united but if he came to LFC it doesnt mean he would get the same results...A bit of FAITH and LOYALTY is needed for Kenny and LFC the good times will return BUT ANY FAN WHO THOUGHT WE WOULD WIN THE LEAGUE OR GET TOP 4 IN HIS 1ST SEASON WAS DILUSIONAL HE MAY BE A GREAT MANAGER/EX PLAYER BUT HE IS NOT A BLOODY MIRACLE WORKER SOME PEOPLE EXPECT INSTANT SUCCESS...SADLY ITS NOT THAT EASY
MJ
Anyway im fininshing work in 10 minutes gonna go home and SUPPORT my team LFC and its Manager 100% I will look forward to your reply tomorrow 666 Later Peeps
Y.N.W.A
MJ
Well if you like to think for yourself and not let others think for you then you question something when it does not seem right.
Kenny seems to be out of his time, a feeling shared by many others.
No I could not do a better job then Kenny but then there are others who may have you considered the possibility?
Blind faith in anyone is in my opinion silly, everyone needs to be accountable including Kenny!
Much of the problems in the world today never mind Liverpool FC are because people don't like rocking the boat and no one is accountable, so the "it will do" mantra prevails.
You have your opinion, I have mine, some people think you are right others may not thats the beauty of the tapestry of life.
666
13 Mar 2012 17:54:56
Looking forward to the big game on merseyside tonight, will be tough for both teams, though Preston are not in good form at the moment so i think Tranmere will comfortably win! Predictions lads?
JWalk
I predict you are Half Rat half Vegetable
MJ
Ratatouille?
JWalk
Give him credit MJ, that was proper bit of banter.
KT!
13 Mar 2012 17:51:37
I'm taking a lot of stick about KK today.
How the hell is a kit deal as good as 3 points?
He didn't say anything of the sort, it's just classic lazy journalism. King Kenny was highlighting all the progress the club has made in areas such as the academy and sponsorship to show the club is moving in the right direction. He said the only thing that hasn't improved the way we all would have liked is the points tally, but we are moving in the right direction and definitely need some stability so that we can consistently put in the performances we have shown we are capable of. Keep the faith
Now let's go hammer the bitters!
13 Mar 2012 17:48:35
I really wish people would stop playing into the hands of the media and discussing Kenny standing down. It really bores me now how so many people are quick to stick the knife into Kenny. He was the one we all chanted for when Roy was in charge, and we got him, so surely we should have a bit of faith in him. We're a trophy better off and still in for the FA Cup, and we generally play better passing and attacking football with Kenny, it's still a work in progress and rebuilding takes some time. The people on here calling for Kenny's head and wanting Mourinho etc will be the first people on here wanting rid of the new manager after we draw a game. Grow up and support the manager, I think he's done enough for the club over the decades to deserve a fair crack at it.
NB Red
Couldn't agree with you more. YNWA
ChinUp
13 Mar 2012 17:43:15
I can see why people are split over dalglish, personally I think he should stay, I would like to see him given two full seasons with his own set of players. I don't wanna feel like I support a club that bails when it gets tough, I also wish people would stop degrading the carling cup and especially the Europa league, there are a hell of a lot of good teams out there now, winning one major trophy now and again doesn't make you world beaters, we should be celebrating our piece of silverware! Enjoying a win, not justifying it... Maybe I'm looking through red tinted glasses but it looks like the plan was always more than one season, and yes not making 4th is a set back, but as is proof, massive investment doesnt win you titles! Man united are still on f****** top despite the ammount of luck they have seemed to have! Come on!
Lfcmatt
13 Mar 2012 17:43:07
Lads here's something that you should all have a look at: www.anfieldindex.com/5382/liverpool-shooting-statistical-graphical-review.html
It's a fascinating read, and really puts a different perspective on how we've been performing this season. I've copied and pasted the beginning of the article below just so you can see what I mean.
It was written in Feb so not completely up to date but if anything what has happened in the last 3 or 4 matches will probably back up what the writer is saying even more. I believe the stats were taken from Opta.
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Much has been made this season about our lack of goals and our poor conversion rate. In fact, we have been consistently in the bottom three all season when it comes to conversion rates, hovering in and around the 10% mark. This week however, we've reached a new low and are now bottom of that table with only an 8.5% conversion rate. When you consider our rivals for the Champion's League places, Arsenal (15%), Chelsea (13) and Newcastle (16% – they deserve respect and to be mentioned as competing for fourth spot) have almost double our conversion rate then what exactly is going wrong for us this season.
According to the statistics Liverpool are creating enough chances, in fact with 257 chances created from open play this season we've created more chances than Man United who've created 240 from open play. We are also creating more chances per game than in our previous seasons, creating 10.71 per game this season, compared to 8.87 per game last season and 9.68 per game in 09/10 season. Yet we didn't have this chance conversion problem in other seasons. We've averaged a 13% chance conversion in the previous three seasons to this one so maybe it is the quality of those chances?
Well we have another metric to measure, the "clear cut chances" statistic. We must remember this is a clear cut chance, a chance that almost certainly should be put away. And this makes for some grim reading also. All though we are creating as much clear cut chances as our rivals, 56 this season compared to Arsenal (64), Chelsea (47), and Newcastle (31), we are not converting enough of these also. It may not sound a lot at first glance but when you consider Arsenal have scored 24 goals to our 16 goals from clear cut chances then that is a big difference when it comes to points.
So what conclusions have we come to so far? Well we've established we are creating enough chances, and we've established that the quality of a portion of those chances, (clear cut chances), are very high. But on both counts we are lacking in the amount of goals we score from those chances that we create. It's crystal clear (even without the statistics) that we are having problems putting the ball in the back of the net this season.
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There's too much to copy over, including graphs etc, but it's worth reading all the way through. Afterwards it's hard not to think that maybe our squad is actually stronger than most give it credit for, and that having a proven goalscorer on the end of what we have managed to create thus far would likely see us in the champions league places now...
Ryan 'O
Thanks for the post Ryan. Nice to see some intelligent analysis among all the knee jerk whining.
13 Mar 2012 17:40:43
I wonder how long it will take for Suarez to find all that trip wire you leave lying in and around opponents penalty areas.
I hope the good succeed tonight. Come on Everton, the whole of the country is with you!
Except for the side with the true scousers... Seriously you have one run of form in like 10 years and you come on here acting like you support Barca Dont make me laugh...Go supp down a few more special Brew mate ...
MJ
At least he's supporting his club, which is more than a lot of people on here do.
13 Mar 2012 17:38:39
Reina
Johnson-Skrtel-Agger-Enrique
Kuba(BVB)-Gerrard-Lucas-Downing
Carroll-Giroud
Subs
Doni
One sub? We screwed
13 Mar 2012 17:32:19
To the guy that said rome was not built in a day well all i have to say is i think they would have got pretty far in 14 months and 110 million.
Not the way builders come an go
DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Roman Abromowich
13 Mar 2012 17:13:47
am i the only one who thinks that weve rarely signed a non-british player since rafa left, nd we re becomin englands reserve team with players who play on the bench or dont even make the squad for them. we nd a european manager nd need to sign european players. eds and others thoughts plz?
wafa {Ed002's Note - Suarez, Enrique, Coates off the top of my head.}
Poulsen, Meireles, Doni, Aurelio (re-signed) are other examples. Going by that list, buying foreign isn't always the best option, eh?
Rugby Parker
Even hodgeson signed foreign players... Meireles, Poulsen.
Not to mention the many foriegn youth signings that Kenny has made.
Nevada
THANKYOU been saying this all along, hopefully Kenny will not continue to bring more of them in, in the summer.
E>H LFC
And that 3 is best buy of kenny. thanks ed :) British talent is crap {Ed001's Note - good job we signed some great foreign talent like Poulsen then?}
13 Mar 2012 17:11:40
if we win the match tonight, we would probably win 2-1 or 1-0 (which is going to be a boring match). we have never played in an exciting match for a long time in which we scored a lot of goals. the last time that we played exciting football was last year when we beat birmingham 5-0 and man city 3-0. now this year we can't even beat the lesser teams 4-0 or 5-0. we have no good players who can score. bellamy is our best player and he was a free transfer.
Short memory..... Brighton? & Oldham? I know they're lesser teams but your comment is wrong
6-1 over Brighton...
McSnuggles
13 Mar 2012 17:10:32
Ed i heard a couple of people saying that Kenny was to soft with the players and was trying to be their friend to much and not their leader. Do you think thats true i am a Kenny, Lfc fan through and through and will always support him and the team but i dont know if it is true or not.
MJ {Ed002's Note - I have no idea how soft Kenny is. Sorry.}
13 Mar 2012 17:05:30
As a fan last season was painful with roy as manager nd talking about relegation battle nd owners who didnt care abt football..things changed nd overall progress is made nd i have to say better squad even though no reaward for it..last year rpy s team s perfomence against sealed his fate nd kenny is undr pressure..i will continue to support lfc , call it blind faith but if it wasnt for blind faith people would only not support any other club then winners each year...lets support liverpool nd enjoy game today if kenny s team cant produce positive result then im sure owners would be loking at new manager possibly after season..ynwa
13 Mar 2012 16:59:17
So here is how kenny will prepair the team for tonight when he walks into dressing room before match..
Kenny-now look boys let's get this straight I want 100% from each 1..let's all keep posestion between defence and medfield and adam I need u to pretend to look for pass n fall over like u do..
Adam-(eating pie) yes coach..
Kenny-suarez u need to get ur act together u r just not crying enough to make refs listen to u..
Suarez-should I give them finger coach..
Kenny-no no I will do that,hendo I want u to run forget the ball just run and lastly my lamp post oh I mean carrol,u must jump..ok boys let's dominate hit the post 4 times n then evertoon wil score n we will loose the match and just then in post match I will claim we have signed new sponsor deal..
Steve.g-coach we all love u I was so tired of playing against barca,let's focus on carling up..
And then they all go on field and loose..
Later all kenny fans will come on here and claim kenny is jesus's recarnation...
And I will sing..kenny for england..
Red indian
Ps-what ever the result tonight our league is over,FA cup left..
How a supposed fan can say that our season is over 3 hours before we play Everton at Anfield in the league is beyond comprehension. No supporter is happy with being 7th/8th, but real supporters will support Liverpool in every game they play, wherever they are in the league.
It confuses me why people like you, red indian, follow a team at all. You actively seek out reasons to criticise the team at any opportunity, even after a win, so what joy do you actually get from following Liverpool? And if the answer is none, please for everyone's sake, stop supporting them.
Rugby Parker
Is this guy serious? What has happened to the standard of fans around here.. goodness
13 Mar 2012 16:58:15
Right voice of reason here..........
It seems were more than divided on here about whether KK should leave and get a new man in or whether we should let him plan for the future and get off his back for a while, amidst all this nonsense a whole boat load of LFC fans are falling over themselves to fall out over it and call each other for having an opinion, which for what its worth were all entitled to,
Its plain to see that like any other set of transfers some have worked out and some have quite obviously not,
Enrique has been a good buy, Carroll has obviously not whether you think he should get more time or not, then we have the Adam for and against camp and the Downing & Henderson similar arguement..........
The trouble is the fans are busy knocking each other now at every turn for having their own opinion and no-one including the club seems to have any harmony anymore no matter what spin KK et al put on it.............
Im suggesting tonight we put all this nonsense and talk of the manager leaving aside for the good of the club and unite in one goal which has always been the LFC way.......Take the next game as it comes
We'll be back, its just a matter of time
YNWA JFT96
Richie LDF
Tremendous post mate, perhaps KK should get you in for a team talk tonight!
When there's a game on, Supporters should support, regardless of what's going on at the club.
Rugby Parker
13 Mar 2012 16:54:04
Downing,Hendo,Adam-Got to put tackles in(fair)In this game chaps
13 Mar 2012 16:53:14
Wenger may have point about Suarez.However wrong to talk about another sides players.And em-Piries,Lungberg,Henry spring to mind!Does seem to be concerted Manc U/Gunners,plus couplle others-effort to drive Suarez out.Or else why comment on other teams players way after own sides faced them?!
Who gives a crap what Wenger,Fergie anybody not involved with LFC says... All i care about is whether or not Kenny is sorting out the problems when we are on the pitch.
P.S If you think he has a point your a tool
MJ
You are a tool if you think suarez dives?
You're blind if you think he doesn't.
13 Mar 2012 16:51:19
It's really funny that you are now turning on your 'messiah'. I'm sure I don't need to remind any of you what was said in the summer - "Kenny will lead us to a PL title!" You are a fickle bunch aren't you? The reason he was appointed as the Liverpool boss is because of the overwhelming support from the fans. Everyone warned you that bringing him back permanently would be a mistake, but you lot knew better.
You've made your bed - now lie in it.
Matthew...
Matthew you cannot stereotype all LFC fans because of the fickle fans on here. It is a shame that some of you let our club down.
LFC_7
13 Mar 2012 16:49:23
Will all you whingers shut up and get behind everything that is Liverpool FC. I'm goin for a 3-1 win for us tonight with Anfield rocking. Come on KK and the boys and shut all these lugs up.
Frog..........
You are really a frog if your too blind to look at the table
13 Mar 2012 16:49:58
Without! being dirty,but defo competeing 100%.Got to win the battle tonight in 1st half hour
13 Mar 2012 16:44:21
The biggest mistake this football club can make is not showing Kenny too little respect but showing Kenny too much respect.
In no way shape or form Im I out to attack his previous status and record but now its simply....
TIME TO GO
13 Mar 2012 16:27:41
Everton in good touch recently. be careful Kenny Lost the match Lost the Job for sure. and no one will cry for you anymore.
rock.
Didnt Kenny bow out last time as LFC manager after a derby game?
13 Mar 2012 16:06:10
I urge Kenny for the good of LFC and with the best wishes and dearest memories please leave the post of manager,you have helped us through a difficult period but now a new era needs to begin.
You may hit disagree but I bet you who do now will have a harder choice tonight.
If Everton overtake us in the league Kenny must go I hope he takes the step before the board make him.
TIME TO GO
13 Mar 2012 16:05:36
Opta Stats - 20 - Liverpool have earned fewer points at home than in any other season since 1951-52 after 13 games.
Worrying!
YNWA jns
13 Mar 2012 15:51:34
If Suarez wants to leave then let him, I always felt his days would be numbered,and that he would want to escape the 'spotlight', and media circus that surrounds him. Hopefully we get a good sum for him, that can be used for 2 strikers and a right winger. It would be silly not to buy at least 3 players (if the funds are good) to replace him.
Pumpkin express.
Let him, but like Torres, at the right price...
I would be happy to get rid for what we got for him.
13 Mar 2012 15:49:49
If we lose tonight. (I am basing this comment on recent performances)
What will happen next?
Action or inaction ? {Ed002's Note - There will be a lot of bleating by the fans demanding all the players and Dalglish leave the club.}
Ed002 - Thats rich coming from a Chelsea fan - but true we will be bleating and calling for heads to roll!
Gotta say ed when you're right you're right, if we lose i may have to forgo this site for a few days for my own sanity
Andy C
I was just thinking to myself as I read through the posts on here, that as much as I love this site and can't remember not checking it daily if i'd had the opportunity, i'll need to give it a miss for a day or 2 if we lose tonight. It's making me think less of my fellow Reds, which is a shame because all the regular posters on here seem like diamond geezers... apart from red turk & red indian of course.
Rugby Parker
13 Mar 2012 15:48:28
Do we have a weakness?
Up for the 'big' games, can't perform in the 'smaller' games.
Maybe it might not be so bad if we lose tonight?
Sam armchair
13 Mar 2012 15:47:30
Eds,
Do you know when the new kit will be revealed?
Cheers {Ed002's Note - Toward the end of the season - perhaps May.}
13 Mar 2012 15:44:37
Wayne Rooney on Twitter on the Merseryside derby: "Can't wait for game tonight. If Everton win they go above Liverpool. Come on Everton."
i would pin that on the lfc dressing room wall before the game tonight
No chance of that happening, It might upset Carragher, Seems as he supports everton
Rooney once a blue always a RED !
13 Mar 2012 15:43:08
ed is ther any nailed on signings for in the summer if so please tell {Ed002's Note - None.}
13 Mar 2012 15:39:54
im sick of part time liverpool fans saying Dalglish will step down and giving him stick yes we are under performing but get behind the team and kenny we will bounce back Dalglish is in it for the long run
Andy 7
Thats all i hear, kenny will bounce back, kenny can do it, kenny magic, there not actually tactics, take the kenny 3d glasses off
If we loose today he needs to go, 4 defeats in a row is disgraceful, even Roy didnt manage that. All Kenny has done in my eyes, is steady the ship last season and salvaged 7th place and then go and spend 100m+ on mid table quality premier league players and continue the mediocrity from last season, with a simlar league position but with a trophy. For me if he looses this or fails to beat newcastle to 6th then he should go, because he'll just go and blow another god knows how much money on more players who wigan, sunderland, blackburn and the like are targeting (aka s**t).
BobbleBoy
What's it to you how much money he spends?! its not like its your money mate and in all fairness would you have spent it any better?
I'm sorry you probably would have signed Messi, Ronaldo, Dani Alves, and Robben and all our troubles would have been answered.
We needed a left winger and we signed a good one (maybe he hasn't delivered yet but he's 26 he will) look at the left wingers we've had in the last 10 years:
Kewell, Gonzalez, Smicer, Leto, Reira, Babel, Luis Garcia (the only one who delivered) and we didn't say "Benitez is wasting money"
We craved a CM with passing ability and we signed a player who we all thought (based on last year) would have just that, no he isn't the greatest player but again he's 26 he'll settle and do fine.
We wanted young talent and we signed Henderson. he's not set the world alight but the lad has ability and will come good same with Carrol.
There are too many people on this website who seem to forget that you can't just go out and sign EVERYONE we want, this isn't fifa...this isn't football manager, real football isn't like this!
I do think we need to bring some new players in but I don't think turning on our team every week is the answer. Getting excited and crying out "In Kenny we trust" when we win and then slating him and saying he needs to go whenever we lose is not the answer!
Either support our club, the greatest and most successful club in English history, or go away and play video games
Canadian Red
13 Mar 2012 15:35:11
Ed, what do you make of Kenny's interview in this morning's papers. Call me old fashioned, but the manager looks after the "points," and the board looks after the "kit deals."
Does it look a little as though the pressure is mounting and he is clutching at straws a little?
Ash {Ed002's Note - Without seeing a transcript it is hard to know what to make of it.}
13 Mar 2012 15:22:26
Agree with other poster's the message at the start of the season was 4th place
That said it was great to win some silverware and still to be challenging for another cup
But ... look at the league we are way way off the top, forget this nonsence of how unlucky we have been ..that evens it self up over the season and we now find ourselves closer to the bottom.
kenny has had his chance I for one would not trust his judgement in the transfer market he has got it wrong to many times and these are not 4-5 miliion players they are 20 and 35 million who we are stuck with as we will never get anywhere that return back. Then there is kennys tactics how may times this season has he got those wrong. Then there is his interviews we all know how media focused football now is why oh why does he have to play the 'miserable f:( @ so often his latest statement re kit deals devises believe and the whole LS situation has put the clubs rep back years
Yes he has brought harmony to the club but honestly can he take the club forward .. answer has to be NO
the best he can now do is start playing some of the youngsters ahead of next season we have nothing to loose and in the longterm we are developing a team for the future
kenny my message to you would be retire go with dignity before its to late
It don't always even itself up over a season. We have been unbelivably unlucky more or less all season. We have hit the woodwork more times than anyone. Our best player (gerrard) has been injured for a lot of the season. Another of our best players (lucas) will be missing for a lot of it. Our best striker (Suarez) got himself banned for 8 games. Our biggest signing (Carroll) has struggled with injurys and form. Not to mention all the keepers who all got man of the match awards, we must be top for that as well. Top 4 was realistic at the start of the year but all our misfortune has hit us hard and it's no wonder the players are no longer putting in the effort. The season has been spoilt by all of the above. If none of that happened we would prob be in the top 4. Kenny had little control over most of our misfortune. Show your a real fan and get off his back.
MIKEY
13 Mar 2012 15:21:17
Guys the biggest thing missing from LFC and has been missing for many a year is Consistency!
- Consistency in performance
- Consistency in squad selection
- Consistency in attitude
and until we can week in week out perform to a higher consistent level we will never do well in the EPL.
Currently we lurch from win to loss and its not good enough.
Spurs have found a way to do it, Man U have done it for years, Citeh have found it. Arsenal have struggled but seem to have found some.
I don't know what the answer is but on our day we can beat anyone i really believe that, its just our day doesn't come round enough!
YNWA jns
13 Mar 2012 15:19:07
Long time reader, first time contributor. A question for the Eds, ideally one that will receive a reasonably comprehensive answer: why is it that Liverpool do not seem to be considering serious, top value talent such as Javi Martinez, Munain, Hazard, et al when it is quite obvious this is the calibre of player we need to push us on? Also, why are the likes of Sterling (in particular) not given more of a chance up front given our struggles to put the ball in the net? And what do you think the likelihood is of Kenny still being in charge next season and of Suarez still being on the books? I love KK but either he and/or Comolli seem to be pursuing a British first policy that has us running to stand still... {Ed002's Note - Liverpool are financially not well enough off to be spending too much on individual players and the probability of having no Champions League football and the circa £35M that would bring again does not help in terms of financing deals for such players or attracting them to the club. This has been addressed on many occasions. The whole tedious issue of Sterling is dealt with on a day-by-day basis with the same answer that he will likely get a chance when he is ready - at present the management team think the at just 17 years old he is not. I have already explained my views about Dalglish and Suarez for next season and there should be no problem finding that information in the archive.}
13 Mar 2012 15:06:42
I think Kenny is on the verge of having a Kevin ''i would love it'' Keegan moment pretty soon, What is on about giving wenger stick for saying Suarez is a diver and a cheat, The whole of the footballing world knows for a fact that suarez is a cheat, Everyone remembers the world cup against Ghana, In an online poll he was rated a bigger cheat than maradonas hand of god, And i dont really have to go into his diving do i ? He spends more time on the ground and crying to the ref than he does with the ball at his feet, I cant stand suarez and want him out of our once great club, he has brought nothing but shame on our club and now he wants out to psg after we stuck by him after he made racial remarks to evra... Hope we dont lose again tonight or kenny could flip out, paul
I just said the same to my bro, Dalglish is losing it, Pressure is getting to him, He knows he has wasted over 120 million on rubbish and the carling cup wont save him from getting the chop
13 Mar 2012 15:06:31
Glen Johnson is out for a couple of more weeks (he stated on his twitter) I thought he was back in training again! Has he got injured again?
Keith
Suarez battered him in training LOL
He would have been a liability against evertons wing play
13 Mar 2012 15:01:17
Everyone calm down let's look at the facts and also what kenny is stating in last interview.
First - Progress
Progress has been made this season as regards to our football and our style, pass and move, which is our identity. Just think back to the dull woy days and until someone mentions how woeful we was againest sunderland, yes we was but can you count on one hand how many times we have been that subdued. Yes
Our style of play also see's us dominating possession, also again how many times have the opponents dominated us in possession during games, not many. Albeit we not scoring enough but hey its all work in progress,
A few more signings in summer to address this issue, for instance a goal scorer and a creative mid will see us somewhat better position points wise, again Rome wasn't built in a day and this is our next step.
Defence - all can say great work SC and with our youngster to come in, no area for concern at all.
Youth -
Well what can be said, massive improvement in the last year and half, we have some and have purchased some very exciting youth that in time, key words there "IN TIME" will be given the platform to show if can make the grade. At the minute our star youngsters need another half season before they physically ready to move into the EPL, and KK will know. When.
These youngster should have Lfc fans excited about our future , sterling, suso, silva, coady, Morgan, wisdom, flanagan, Kelly, Robinson, dunn. Not bad eh
Kit deals / sponsorships / transfer fees
I totally understand why KK has mentioned this, just think of the progress made for turnover in relation to new kit sponsors and also the wage structure in which we have reduced, all this will benefit in future Windows as regards to our purchases and new rules coming in regarding operating in profit and so on
I really do feel that good times are ahead and we are only 3 or 4 players short of acheiving our next step top four. Let's not lose faith, we for one have our club and identity back, let's thinks hicks gillett administration and Roy ...
Jack Lfc
13 Mar 2012 14:55:45
Kenny Dalglish has launched an impassioned defence of his record at Liverpool, claiming he should not be judged by the club's league position alone and that kit deals are as important as victories. - From the Guardian this morning
Silly me - I though King Kenny was employed to coach and pick a side that could win football matches.
John B
I have to agree with what Kenny "actually" said...
"The club is now where it was before - each one for each one, everybody in it together," said the Liverpool manager. "There are many ways you can judge a season and the best way is progress at the football club as a whole. I don't think it necessarily relates to trophies or points.
"You can measure it by how the club has progressed and where it is, from the first team to the kids. Off the pitch, especially, the club is a lot stronger than what it was."
People have to understand that its not all just about the football on the pitch. The more money the business makes the more money we have to improve the squad, if we didn't do deals like the Warrior kit deal we simply wouldn't be able to keep up... Why are people turning against the club every day they read too much into some story they read on the internet?? I thought this was a Liverpool "Supporters" page? Banter aswell but all i read on here now is rubbish talk and negative keyboard bashing boring pretend supporters giving out about everything the club or Kenny does. So disapointed with the stuff i read on this site, it actually bores me to tears the drivel some people write.
Rocky
13 Mar 2012 14:41:02
Hey eds. First of all, great site, I really enjoy reading what people have to say and what your expert opinions are! :) Quick question. What starting 11 would you like to see today against Everton?
Thanks {Ed002's Note - I am sorry, I have no interest in such matters but if you look on teh "Team" page there will no doubt be some listed there.}
Why does ed002 just fob every question off. People spend time asking you questions! So what if you've answered them before. {Ed002's Note - I write plenty of lengthy answers to questions asked here whereas you are simply some anonymous retromingent quendo. Your father should have taken a Kleenex on that fateful day.}
! Saucer of milk for Ed002! That was one of your best Ed :)
. Get em ed002
13 Mar 2012 14:27:51
Sorry i have been reading thru alot of the comments on here about the lovely football we are playing first thing football is about results and they have been carp as for pass and move thats all good if u are getting teams turned and defending with last ditch tackles but teams are set up to defend against and we are playing in front of there defence which is a defenders wet dream, i hate slagging of kenny but if this was anybody else we would b calling for there head
13 Mar 2012 14:25:10
We talk about progress alot. Progress meaning what exactly?
We set out for Champions League qualification at the start of the season. This was the ambition of the owners, the fans and the football club. To not acheive that, we stated at the start of the season that it would be "a disaster". So our season based on our ambitions is turning out to be a disaster. So the progress... When you look at that side of it, there is no progress.
Look at the start of the season. We were going on for our 5th season without silverware which by Liverpools standards is far too long. We have achieved 1 cup to our name this season and in the quarter finals of another. This may be a catch 22 but what would our fans rather want? Lets say we finished 4th and never won anything, many of us would still be sat here compalining "its all about silverware". If we would have finished 4th, im sure there would be a collective group of fans compalining we never won the league. So what is it that everybody wants?
Man United, Man City, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea are all teams which could potentially challenge for the title. Then there comes Liverpool who fall into that equation, and somebody had to give way.
US.
Do we deserve to be where we are? Yes because points talk. We can hark on about hitting the post, goal keeping heroics but the game is about scoring more than your opponent and we havent done that enough to warrant Champions league football this year.
Only in the big games this year (mainly in the cup) have we shown any real bite and determination. We beat Chelsea and Manchester City convincingly. Would we have reached the final this year if we played Bolton away on a Tuesday? Would we have taken these games seriously enough? Would the players have been up for it? The answer i think is NO. Does that reflect on our attitude in the league to weaker opposition? Possibly..
Ask Birmingham City fans how they felt last year. Half my family are blues fans and the satisfaction they got from winning the Carling Cup was fantastic for them. All these years my mum has harked on that winning silverware was the most important thing for BCFC. I asked her the same question at the end of the season when they got relegated. You could probably guess what the responce was.
In a way, this is our relegation battle. We cant give up because of what our club stands for. We need to fight to the end, get as many points as possible then who knows. Is our season a disaster? Not yet. Will us Liverpool fans ever be satisfied? Probably not. The jury is out on that one but 1 thing we CAN do as fans is get behind the football club, and it starts tonight.
Come on YNWA.
Sam Adzii JFT96
13 Mar 2012 13:59:16
Thanks @WesternCapeRed. I completely agree that we're only a few players short of a great team but the whole ''english grit'' thing I don't agree with. Players like Carrol,Downing and Adam still play as if their playing for Blackpool,Middlesbrough etc. No commitment at all. Players like Kuyt,Lucas,Suarez,Agger and Skrtel show ten times more hunger and they aint even British. I cant fault Henderson as far as commitment is concerned. As for the others though,eish...
Capetownred
To say Adam has no committment is garbage,he has fallen in love with the club.
Mr Roller Coaster
I think Charlie likes the glamour of the club as he sees it. But he has forgotten that he is now another very small fish. He now needs to put his efforts into his game rather than trying to get his face on tv or in the papers. That'll show me if he loves the club or not !
KJS
Adam plays for himself he is not team player
13 Mar 2012 13:49:31
I can't wait to read the comments after you lot get beat by Everton.
Carling cup and 9th this season LOL
Jermain
If we beat the bitters tonite, can you promise to hold your tongue and run back to your mancs or spuds or chavs or wherever you come from. Thanks
Singred
No, we will win tonight as it is against strong opposition. It's only Championship and mediocre Premier League teams we struggle against.
Honest Joe
Singred its 9th place for Liverpool.
35M ON Carrol.
Jermain
Jermain 17 years and counting ! And you lot laugh at us haha unlucky lad .
13 Mar 2012 13:39:14
Do you think Kenny's comments about Kit Deals and League points is a little dig at the owners?
We are to believe that funds where available in January if players where needed - but do we know that for sure...
Just a thought...
NS
If it was, then Kenny's days are numbered, as it's similar to Mourinho's omelette comments in his final days!
Keith
I agree, it just seems a strange comparison for Kenny to make.
I think the new owners are commercially driven internally, but outwardly know how to work the fans. They bought the club on the cheap and have spent hardly anything so far...
They are better than the Texas Cowboys because they're not going bankrupt as a company (as far as we know)
But they are in it for the money, make no mistake about it. They want $$$$$$$$$ and if Liverpool can't give it to them long term, they'll bail out...
With the kit sponsor comment, maybe Kenny was having a little dig about the business side of things taken president over the footballing side of things at a board level.
13 Mar 2012 13:33:35
Win,lose or draw tonight doesn't bother me,were not playing for anything.this season has been a failure,I don't want the mickey mouse cup,I want us to win the epl but if we can't then we should at least finish in top four.im sick of our title chances finished every September.100m worth of players bought and we're 28 pts behind the leaders with 11 games still to go
Injuries and suspensions have ruined our season and the quality of our squad, although improving, is not quite good enough............yet! It's like in Rafa's 2009 year when we 'should' have won the league! (angry smiley) We had probably the best first team of the PL, but almost the worst squad too! Then we had Ngog for Torres, now we have Spearing for Lucas, Adam for Gerrard etc!
Keith
That wasn't even a good attempt at posing as a Liverpool fan, its Everton tonight at to say your not bothered win, lose or draw well it just gave you away.
always a red
You fella are pathetic. Are you really saying that the Carling Cup is not worth playing for? How sad that you have such a negative outlook. It can't be a lot of fun in your life.
By the way, apart from Liverpool I also support Exeter City my home town club. We are in the relegation zone but we all continue to support the manager and players without question. How on earth could someone like you manage that? Pathetic. Seriously, why don't you support someone else if it makes you such a negative, frustrated and angry person? DM68
Did Exeter spend 100m on players? I've been to the Bolton,wolves,man u,man city,Blackburn,Newcastle,stoke,spurs,man city carling cup,fa cup man u,Oldham,Brighton games.i think I have a right to voice my option.how many games have you been to or are you a couch potatoe fan? {Ed002's Note - Potatoe? Is that you Dan Quayle?}
Im from exeter too mate, small world. The city fans are fantastic.
davethebutcher
No, our record signing was £70K back in the 70's. Remarkable isn't it. Perhaps that's why I am optimistic, not ecstatic, but optmistic. I support Liverpool and that's what I'll do. Perhaps look up the definition of supporter.
Are you narrow minded enough to think that the more games you go to the bigger the fan you are?
Up yours ed002,get a job u loser {Ed002's Note - I am astonished that a glifnard like you understood the joke - or did a grown up explain it to you?}
13 Mar 2012 13:18:10
Jus tread a rumour on voetbalkrant.com that Beerschot (the belgian club) have an agreement in place with liverpool and Warrior to make their kits? Any truth in this rumour? {Ed002's Note - Warrior might have a deal with them but it would have nothing to do with Liverpool.}
13 Mar 2012 13:40:53
SUMMER OUTS
Luis Suarez £35
Dirk Kuyt £6m
Andy Carrol £13m - £15m
Charlie Adam £6m
Aurelio free
Poulsen free
Pacheco free
Jones free
Joe Cole 5m
Aquilani 5m
Total = aprox. £70m
SUMMER IN:
Roberto Soldado £20m
Jackson Martinez £8m
Luuk De Jong £12m
Gaston Remirez £15m
Nuri Sahin £10m
Esteban Granero £6m
Dede £5m
Matt Phillips £4m
Total £80m
Net spend £10m
This team is possible and would have us challenging for honours and playing brilliant footy as well. We can then gradually introduce our youth players as we progress. NESV and whoever is our manager next season must move quickly to have these deals done in good time to restore our lost glory.
Home Truth
13 Mar 2012 13:13:50
liverpool next year have to play like this.
Reina
Johnson-Agger-Skrtel-Enrique
Kuba(Dortmund)-Gerrard-Lucas-Downing
Carroll-Giroud
Subs.
Doni
Sama(academy)
Kelly
Henderson
Coady
Sterling
Kuyt
We have to sell'Poulsen,Cole,Aquilani,Suarez,Adam
We have to improve our academy'Suso,Silva,Joao,Morgan,Dunn,Flanagan,Robinson. Look at this how good academi it is
We have to sell all of the signings to the first team that were made in the Dalglish era bar enrique and start over
13 Mar 2012 13:09:26
just like to say martin skrtel has been excellent this season
How on earth could you possibly disagree with that
And he eats Nails!
13 Mar 2012 12:57:15
So as someone said previously, KK came in, got rid of the dead wood and replaced them with talented youngsters - you are having a laugh - you are saying that Carroll, Henderson, Downing and Adam are talented youngsters!! They are useless.
When FSG came in they identified that they had to slim the squad down because players like Degen and Poulsen had crazy contracts - That took a lot of money to terminate contracts etc..
What Kenny did was replace those players with better players probably on better contracts for the club but still not good enough for a top 4 finish in today's EPL - we need players of the calibre of Europe's top teams it may mean we buy 1 player per transfer window and use our youth and reserves more but it surely its better than buying 4 poorer players and committing the club to long contracts for these players.
Citeh and Spurs have got stronger so the classic Top 4 which used to be Man U, Chelski, LFC and Arsenal is now a Top 6 including Spurs, Citeh making it far more competitive league than ever and Kenny hasn't got to grasps with that at all.
YNWA jns
Great reply, YNWA jns.
I've said for a while Rome wasn't built in a day and we are still playing catchup, although Newcastle have been a bit of a surprise this season. We had piles of players who shouldn't have been here, earning God knows how much and we need to bulk up our squad to better players, then maybe we could get the odd good player in the summer, bit like the Mancs do! Having the likes of Adam, Henderson, Carroll and Coates on the bench is far better than before, when we had Ngog, younger Shelvey etc! We can soon use the decent players from the academy to fill in where need be, like the likes of Suso, Sterling and Morgan.
Keith
13 Mar 2012 12:45:30
I must say it's hard to get myself excited for tonights game, even if it's a merseyside derby, cause we dont have anything to play for....and its that thought that frustrates me and makes me realise what a great failure this season was...hopefully someone can come and help us in the summer achieve that which Kenny failed to achieve but hey here's hoping for the best, enjoy the game tonight...if you can
Can't get excited? Nothing to play for? We are Liverpool Football Club. Plenty to play for!
WesternCapeRed
So why are you on here moaning. Maybe you should think about supporting another club, maybe someone like Man City. you will fit in well there. Ross
If we finish as high up the table as possible, even if not the coveted 4th place, then it will send out a message that next season WILL (finally) be ours! Let's win it tonight and go on a roll, win every game until end of season.
Keith
Next season is always our season, so sick of hearing it
Mike
13 Mar 2012 12:44:22
Hye Eds,
1)Is it possible this summer Kenny will be replace by Rafa? The only good football we play is under Rafa. Pass n move that Liverpool play this season not good enough most of the game played. We rarely score from winger cross, no more long shot. Every time in the penalty box, player still passing around rather than kicking straight to the goal.
2)If Suarez leave, how much we will get? If 30M and above, i'd say we let him go and go for more great finisher.The way Suarez play, like to get around people's leg everytime got the ball is getting boring since he play that everytime he got the ball. He rather suitable to play behind striker or left winger/striker just like he play for uruguay.
3)Lucas is the only good DMF we got. Spearing is not gud enough. Is it possible we are going to buy another good DMF, player that can make good pass through, good tackler like Lucas? Any name?
4)Why Kenny always prefer Henderson than Downing in every selection?Im very frustrated with Henderson's performance.
dtg'LFC {Ed002's Note - (1) I doubt it; (2) The figure you suggest will likely be broadly correct; (3) I don't think it is a priority; (4) No idea.}
Rafa belongs in the bleedin-basket-case-of-managers.com
Tap Tap to the head of Rafa and forget him
I have a lot of respect for Rafa he did win us our 5th Champions league title, and we had some matches under his reign. But what is the point in going backwards, with all due respect he has had his time at the club, and I really do not think he will take us to the next level. He was very guilty of wasting money on average players, and also guilty of playing very defensive. If we do change managers, it should be for someone new, who is going to inject fresh ideas into the team. Ross
Hodgson was a step backwards, Kenny was a step backwards (although done for other reasons), and Rafa will be a step backwards.
We need to move forward with a young, ambitious manager. Kind of what United did 25 years ago with a certain manager from a small Scottish club.
13 Mar 2012 12:34:48
I think that the idea of what KK is trying to do is right but the playing staff is just not good enough to pull it off. Lucas injured,Gerrard off form,Suarez not scoring as often as he should be,Carrol... I still don't understand why he's a LFC player. I thought Adam was an excellent signing but he's been poor. I never even heard of Henderson until we signed him and that should have given it away. Downing is average and our best player of the lot,Jose Enrique, ain't even British. Lets be honest,this is not the 80's. British players,with the exception of a select few, are amongst the worst players in Europe so why did we go that route? Commoli as well as KK should have known better. If you don't get what you want,don't settle for the next best thing eg. Llorente and Gomez not wanting to come and then buying Carrol. Yes,our football is much better but for me KK is to blame as far as the transfers are concerned but the players have to take most of the blame here. KK isn't the one going out there and playing. The players are. Hell,if RVP joined us he'd probably stop scoring coz our transfer policy and scouting for the last 20 years or so has been awful in general. A perfect example is whats happening now. £100 000 000 spent,still 7th in the league. I hope that we sign real quality this summer and hold on to Luis. Otherwise we'd better get used to 1000 shots on target with 35 goals and 7th in the league to show for it.
Capetownred
I do think we need the English (or Bristish) elements to the team. They can add the grit that we have often been lacking over the years. We're only a couple of players off an excellent team. Have faith. Henderson will play in the middle and will be good enough. Carroll i want to see have a real run in the side. Ok, so we may not be any better off this season on points or position, but we do have a cup, and the footie we've played generally has been better. A couple of class players to add to the base we have and we're on our way.
WesternCapeRed
Last year Henderson played 37 league games, was 4th in the epl for scoring chances created, and played for England at 20. And you'd never heard of him? And you believe your not having heard of him 'should have given it away'. The only thing it gives away is your total ignorance.
13 Mar 2012 12:29:06
oh well suarez gone in the summer ...seems like whiskey nose wins again .....if i could manage the pool fergie would never get the better of me ...i would die first ........the club has let luis down ........we are laughed at by all other cubs too ....its disgraceful ....fsg better put their hands in their pockets in the summer or we are finished
I think it was Luis who let the team down to be fair.
Suarez lied to the manager and let down both kd and his team mates, despite the support they had shown him. He damaged our clubs reputation because he refused to put the club above his own ego.
The only disgrace in this saga is suarez
13 Mar 2012 12:28:34
It's the derby tonight and it's not a sell out,lfc still have tickets available,can you blame fans not wanting to go,we can't finish fourth now,so we're not playing for anything,not even playing for pride because the players don't even have that.i was lucky I got rid of my tickets,I'm still trying to get rid of my stoke and Wigan tickets but no one wants them and I don't blame them.spending 80m on Henderson,Carroll,downing and Adam is a joke.
If you have stoke and Wigan tickets I will buy them no problem what so ever !
G BOX
If you had a ticket for tonight and you've "got rid of it" for whatever reason you have to do with your own misery at a spell of bad luck and bad results then that says a lot about you as a "fan." It's the Merseyside Derby where any real fan would give their left arm for a ticket no matter what the form, results and current position are. The club is in a transitional period where there has been a lot of change, on and off the pitch, and instant results don't happen over night. Personally I don't think you deserve the tickets the way you are. Let a real fan have them who wants to get behind the team and support, yes support, them through thick and thin!
Kevin7
13 Mar 2012 12:26:15
sick of liverpools passing from defence to midfield from midfield to defence from defence to keeper and then long ball up we just need to attack attack attack come on liverpool lets start playing football
13 Mar 2012 12:09:08
I'm am saddened to say, as a lifelong Liverpool supporter, I am practically at an all time low with our club at the minute. Because of 3 defeats in a row? NO. Because of King Kenny? NO....but because of the growing number of fickle fans who are turning against Kenny. Can somebody name me 1 other manager that could have come in last year, and managed to get some of Woy's pathetic signings to put a run of form together. Then clear out ALL the deadwood at our club and replace them with talented youngsters in ONE summer. Then guide us to our first piece of silverware for 6 years? Yes, we do need to add to our squad, we certainly need a finisher as this is our biggest problem. But Rome wasnt built in a day. We need to progess, and we are doing, but we also need to give him time. The young signings need time too, but we are quick to get on their backs. We are creating more chances than any other team, so were not far off being where we want to be. A good finisher to put away these chances will see us flying up the league. Even City and their billions have taken longer than 12 months to be fighting at the top. So why do we expect instant success??
Lets get behind Kenny and the lads and stop the fickle fans from embarrassing our great club any further.
Marshy
Fact of the matter is kk negative tactics are costing us. He goes on about Carroll being excellent yet refuses him a good run and doesn't play Bellamy enough! Hendo is useless yet still gets picked and the fact he came out and said downing is faster than we thought really asks the question did he look at the targets before buying them, also I personally would rather 4th than shirt deal!
Spot on mate
Muggitzo
Totally agree Marshy. As you say City and their millions have taken more than the 12 months some of these fickle fans are demanding...and city may even end up this season empty handed after the weekends results. Surely building a solid, stable team who can develop into potential champions is what this club is all about. Isn't that what Shanks did?
I suspect most of these fickle fans were born a lot later than the boot room days though and have only ever experienced the "24 hour" instant " world we live in today. I feel quite sorry for them really as most of the fun has gone out of it these days....oh for the 60's and 70's again!
KJS
Marshy,
Calling other posters/fans fickle because they complain about lack of progress is getting beyond stupid now. We liverpool fans have always had a lot to say about our team, good or bad, we know our football and very passionate about our team, when its not doing as well as it should , we point it out in forums like these and in banter in pubs work and every where.
Anyone that expected us to be title challengers is fickle, but I have n't read any post in here with these expectations, most in here expect us to be top 4 or near by and show some kind of progress, but 39 points after 27 games is far from being where we want to be, yes we did n't spend as much as City and will be stupid to expect us to compete with them, but in the last 2 windows combined we spent more than Chelsea and a lot more than Arsenal, Spurs , Newcastle and United. Arsenal had a torrid start to the season, look where they are now, have they spent millions , no! ; they identified their problems , and worked hard to fix it, and their recent success, is pure determination , many of the Arsenal team are younger and cost a fraction of our "Young signings" but they seem to be ready.
Look I can put loosing 3 games on the trot down to a run of bad form, but when you combine it with the points dropped to Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan, Norwich, Swansea it tells you there is a problem, yes we create chances , but we need to convert them, not doing so suggests a failing that should've been dealt with in the january window, because this problem have been there from the start of the season.
Roy
IIdo hope Carroll gets a run - then we'll get the chance to see if he's going to be good enough, but let's still be a little patient with KK. Ok i know we've been patient for years, but i think we're getting a real team together for the next few years. Players will come and go, and i may be just extra mellow today, but we are building. Is it really doom and gloom with some of the footie we've played this season? No! (and although i don't get to Anfield at all these days, i'm lucky enough to see every game live on telly! ok, not something to brag about after the last game but i'll be glued again tonight)
WesternCapeRed
Did you read your beloved KK in the press again today making the same unnecessary rude and sarcastic remarks saying the FA should charge Arsene Wenger for his comments over Suarez and defending our poor league position? What saddens me the most is the apparent lack of class and utter ignorance that constantly oozes out of the man Dalglish. I think you need to decide between being a fan of KK or a fan of Liverpool FC before you condemn others for voicing out the bitter truth. Your KK moves close to violence each time he is asked a simple question by the press, as if he is actively seeking to promote a siege mentality, apparently forgetting that he's the manager and representative of LFC. This is sad and unacceptable. Hhis tactical ineptitude on and off the pitch, for me, are the main reasons why he needs to step aside and let someone else manage the club.
Home Truth
Bellamy doesnt play regular because his knee's wont let him, no other reason. Carroll is better than he gets credit for but not every game is suited to his style. Henderson is starstruck at the minute but i expect him to get better as time goes by. Downing needs confidence, because when he does run at players he gets past them, he just needs to do it more but wont because the fans will get on his back if he gets tackled! All managers make mistakes when signing players, even Bacon Face, but at least give them a chance!
Fickle Fans, perhaps its time to go and support Man City.
It's not the fans that are embarrassing it's the players we have that are embarrassing Liverpool.kenny is turning Liverpool in to mid table team.
Is that you Roy?
Roy, banter is what football is all about, and i'm all for opinions on the team/Daglish etc. But seeing people calling for Kenny's head is absolute ridiculous and they are fickle, like it or not. Yes we have dropped plently of silly points this season, and ideally we could have done with a striker in January, but when we bought one last January window he cost us £35 million and people moaned about that!! Chelsea and Tottenham have spent less in the summer because they built their team some years back and spent big then. Remember Gareth Bale being ridiculed by fickle Spurs fans before he was given a proper chance? Bet they feel stupid now. And Arsenal? You obvioulsy wasnt at the recent game where we completely dominated their poor team. If RVP wasnt there, they would be in the bottom half of the table this year. So if we get that decent finisher we need in the summer, top 4 will be much more achieveable next season. Oh, and dont forget there are 6 top teams battling for 4th place now, not just the 4 when Rafa was in charge, so 2 teams will be disappointed every year!
Marshy.
Posting on the behalf of spurs fans , fella your comment it's way off regarding bale, I suggest you stick to your own club! bale was all hair products and not end products, it was sherwood who turned him around along with walker & livermore, bostock still thinks he should be playing each week and should be by now an england international, he is still all bling! nothing to do with fickle fans
Marshy,
I come from a generation that would nt want Kenny sacked even if we were relegated, I know what Kenny is about, not just he is Liverpool, but he is also a good manager. But I do understand those that call for his sacking, I dont agree with them, I wont call them fickle though because I understand their point, they see the club spending a lot of money and nothing to show for it except for carling cup (Birmingham and all that), and as they say the buck stops with the manager.
I was one of those that moaned spending 35m on Carroll, is he the goal scorer that we need, sorry he is n't , last year he was injured (which made the amount spent on him even more puzzling) still I've given him time, but when Kenny is still not picking him 5 months into his second season, then you have to wonder and ask why? maybe Kenny have also realised Carroll is not Liverpool standard. You just dont spend over 20m on a striker and keep him on the bench when you desperately need goals unless there is a good reason.
As for your point about 6 teams battling for 4 places , you are right, but that is more of a reason why we should step it up , I am not ready to accept we no longer top club in England I was hoping with these new owners , they can put us back where we belong, I dont want instant success, but I was hoping to be in the mix for 4th by the end of the season and not out of it by early March, even in Rafa last season we were in it end April.
Roy
13 Mar 2012 12:07:02
now that psg are a stupidly rich club, there is no doubt that they will attempt to pay a silly amount for suarez; if they came in with £60 million , i say sell and go in for players like hazard or cavani. i know the eds thoughts on the matter but what do you lads think? we could bolster are team completely with that money, to add more creativity and goal scorers. if we get rid of further dead wood, like kuyt and adam, we could bring in honda. this current squad is not good enough.
Wake up muppet! 60 million for suarez or not, Cavani and Hazard wont be coming to Liverpool, no matter how much you dream about it.
Steve
60m? We should sell Suarez for anything above 25m. He has caused severe problems for our club.
They might be rich but, not stupid nobody right in the head would pay no more than £25million for a striker who can't score.
Mike
Anyone else noticed how aggresive this lad steve tries to be with his muppet etc lines. STEVE even if your right it dont give you the right to shout people down lad ., Were all entitled to an opinion or is this rumour section just for you.
13 Mar 2012 11:52:46
In my honest opinion we should do this, IF POSSIBLE:
Buy:
Ozil 25
Alonso 25
Martinez 8
Defoe 10
Total: 68 Million
Sell:
Suarez 30 Million
Maxi 5 Million
Carroll 15 Million
Fabio Aurellio Free
Adam 8 Million
Total: 58 Million
Team:
Gk: Reina
RB: Johnson/Kelly
CB: Skrtel/Agger/Coates/Carragher
LB: Enrique/Robinson
CDM: Lucas/Coady/Spearing
CM: Gerrard/Alonso/Henderson/Suso
RM: Ozil/Kuyt
LM: Bellamy/Downing
ST: Martinez/Eccleston/Defoe
Huge improvement whilst implementing some of the skillful youths. Still believe that Sterling needs to gain a bit of strength yet but he could be introduced throughout the season but I'd give the ones I said more of a go-out than him. We have only basically spent 10 Million here on a great improvement in my opinion. Whether or not Ozil and Alonso will come to Liverpool will be the problem but hopefully Comolli and Kenny can persuade them. Martinez is just what we need, fast and strong who can finish. Defoe is there as well if we want to play 4-4-2. Defoe would probably start ahead of Martinez in a 4-5-1 though.
BthekingB
Martinez will cost a lot morre than 8M
&
Maxi won't command an 5M fee
Martinez will not cost more than 8M. Jackson Martinez that is, btw. We have been told it would cost 8 Million to bring him to anfield I believe.
Maxi is also talented and has a good scoring record for games played in the last two seasons. He should be picked more for Liverpool but since that isn't happening he will go else where for a minimal fee.
BthekingB
Yeah and im also fairly sure that real madrid would let you pinch half there midfield...
13 Mar 2012 11:36:33
Stop Moanin! YNWA Through think 'n' thin
Spot on mate!
billynwa
13 Mar 2012 11:09:16
i think coner cody is miles better than adam, downing yer he's good and all that but he's not doing any damage to other teams.
sterling to me could be like micheal owen, hendo i want himto play well but he just wont tho, even tho suso is well better than him, i rekon sterling in the first team this season would of done us a world of good for next year, in fact i bet you we would of scored more than 35 goals this season allready. our young lads are better than most of our first team.
lfc till iam toast.
Coady is not better than adam and is also very different type of player
Even aquilani is better than adam.
Indian Buzzer
13 Mar 2012 11:08:09
0 progress in 14 months 110 million spent. We need a new manager who thinks kit deals are not as good as points. Who thinks 7th in the table 4th worst in the form guide is good progress. He has had a chance and we nearly lost the carling cup to a championship team.
Who do you want as manager then?
I couldn't disagree with you more. KK isn't more interested in shirt deals, but understands they are important to the long term financial wellbeing of the club and its international profile.
Also do you think anyone will remeber who finished 4th in 10 years time? I bet you don't know without googling it who finished 4th in 2002, but people will remeber who won the Carling Cup.
There is still a way to go but if we had converted even 30% more of our chances we would be right in there challenging for 4th and youwould be waxing lyrical about the greatness of the King. Football is small margins next year we'll be better but only because those margins go for us, dont be so negative theres a lot to be happy about
I think we have a a board of Managers selected from this website to run the team
Then there could be no complaints
13 Mar 2012 11:01:23
There's been much debate reqarding which (if any) of the youngsters should be given a chance. So here's my 2pence worth.
Kristian Adorjan is the player I'd give a run.
Quality player who can create and score. In my opinion the type of player we've been crying out for all season. Vision in the last third of the pitch. First touch is either a pass or getting it out of his feet with his head up looking for the pass. Makes other people play.
Shmickles
Yeah! I totally forgot about him but he is the perfect fit to link up with the striker in the CAM role. Great player with great tricks. I'd still prefer Coady or Suso to give a run because we need to introduce a RM or a CM which Suso can play both and we need a CDM which Coady plays every game.
BthekingB
I thought i was alone in thinking that adorjan is one of our finest youngsters
13 Mar 2012 10:43:04
Everton to "win" tonight - 2 red cards to 1.
The Real KB
I agree Everton will win they have better form and they would want to mark 10 years of moyes with a win for him. We will waste 20 chances hit the post a few times Adam will be booked and we will get beaten.
Red raj
I wonder who the divers will get sent off for Everton tonight. Jack Rodwell again? Is Martin Atkinson the ref, or another reffing Liverpool supporter?
Setting off shortly ed.
Just gotta have the old she*p, shower, shave, shampoo.
Really looking forward to it - that juicy, warm, fulfilling Scouse Pie at half time.
Sod the football.
Safe journeys all.
The Real KB {Ed002's Note - Have a great day KB. Drop in tomorrow and let us all know who won.}
Great support you 2 numbnuts!!
liverpool 3 nil winners
I think he meant in red card stakes mate. i think the "win" gave it away
huddz red
I forgot to sign the numbnuts !
REDMAN
Carroll will be on his ass
Henderson will run around a lot and touch the ball less than 40 times in the whole game
Reina will drop another Clanger
Kenny will give a post match interview and he'll sound more and more like Roy
Reread my bad!!!
redman
ps sorry numbnuts!!!
1-1 is my prediction. Will be shocked if we win. Everton r playing with much more grit and passion than us. Dont see them losing tday.
Indian Buzzer
13 Mar 2012 10:30:51
all this talk of sticking the kids in is a bit premature. They just not ready and that includes Raheem. The only player i see ready for ago is Robinson.Even Flanaghan struggled earlier in the season. You dont want to throw them in and they get lumps booted out of them destroying there confidence.Give them another year and see what happens
Giving them a chance will give them confidence,if they are good enough then play them.they would do abetter job than the crap we have playing now
Did you watch Everton Reserve game the other week pal? They had a lot of first teamers including Anichebe, Rodwell and Jagielka and we still outplayed them. I believe we should be giving some of these a try. Only put 1 in for now though and bring him off the sub bench.
BthekingB
The moment they play an average game they will be rubbished on here. Should do their confidence a lot of good.
I watched that reserve game too, but i wouldn't get to excited as the everton players you mentioned were making their comebacks from injury, so they would have been lacking fitness.
I in no way would let kenny step down we are going through a unstable period with players new to the club strugling to settel in to the club but given this season i believe they will hit the ground running next season even the great Ian Rush strugled in his first season in first team . If Kenny decides to step down then I think we have the ideal replacment i the reserve team manager rudolfo he has the young players playing great football he has been schooled in the Barcelona style of football wont cost the club a fee after all look what happened when bob was installed as our manager ! {Ed001's Note - Rush struggled for 3 years and the greatest scout in living memory, Geoff Twentyman, was all but hounded out of his job over Rush not living up to expectations.}
O so EFC senior pros would let young kids run rings around them dont think so ! if they did then if I was moyes I would have them on the transfer list at end of season
13 Mar 2012 10:25:56
Ed..great site..and great work..
I was watching the Monday Night Verdict yesterday in ESPN...
Steve Mcmahon..was with shebby singh..and steve said..."gerrard said that u give me a carling cup final every year I would be happy......" does that mean we are defeted..we dont challenge for title, we dont be the team anymore...
Ed whats ur opinion on this...
He also revelead tha thenderson is the flop of the season...they were analyising his performance...
Clearly visible that he is not the person we need...he cannot play wide..he never tackle, he doesnt play attacking...then what does he do for 20 mill?
People say he is one for the future..which future?..
He also said one truth...If KK would have been the manager of chelsea...he would have been sacked long time back...
Ed are you still with our new signings...
we paid over the moons ofr the british..
and the only players did perform was..the spaniaird...and the uruguan..
Ed whats ur thought?? {Ed002's Note - I have no opinion on what may have been said in an interview without seeing it in context. Sorry.}
If henderson is the future then the future does not look good.
13 Mar 2012 10:19:25
The problem is simple, we used to have gerrard masch and xabi as our midfield men ... Now gerrards injured half the time and we got Adam, spearing ect we actually miss Lucas! Why didn't kenny persuade Torres to stay one more year? Him n Suarez would have took the premier league by storm and got big names wanting to come to us, but instead he pays 75 mil for downing, hendo and carrol. Ronaldo only cost 5 mil more! We could have got 2 world class players for that cash, sort it before we turn into a bottom table team we already play like a mid table one!
You are thinking of the old torres, who could score and wanted to play for liverpool fc!!
We are playing are best football since roy evans just missing the cutting edge.
instead of bitching try watching the game!!
I actually go to Liverpool games and agree with the first comment we had a better squad 10 years ago. Delusional muppets think we're the best off in years - but face facts we were lucky against Cardiff and 30 goals is not good enough, shakily would be turning in his grave
The best football we ever played was under phil Thompson fact
True that about the Thompson comment. We should have bought Anelka after his loan expired. He was amazing back then.
BthekingB
13 Mar 2012 09:58:17
Is kk losing it? Launches attack at wenger for pointing out the obvious with suarez diving like he's been shot. He also says he should not be judged on league position alone but to look at kit deals he has brought in. Not being funny yes we won a trophy...... Just, but some of these players are simply not good enough, kk needs to realise we have kids better than the first team who can actually put the ball in the net! And please practice penalty shootouts!!
Arsenal fan hear,do any l/pool fans think kd is starting to unravel,mentally , i am being 100% serious.and i am not saying this for banter purposes either,his press conferances are starting to sound like gibberish and now he wants aw punished by the f.a .next he will wanting the everton fans arrested tonight cause they singing anti l/pool songs.i storngly suspect the end is close for kenny,and for his personal well being the sooner the better
trev the gooner
Well you should know after all you lot have put up with the gibberish that comes out of wengers mouth!!
Just want to end this myth, Suarez wasnt touched for the pen, ive seen the replay in slow motion several times and can confirm that Sciezny (spelling) does catch Luis, may only be the slightest of touch, but when your moving at pace and you get a nick it doesnt have to be full blooded to be a foul. And since when does that give Arsene Wenger the green light to come out and call another player a cheat? Pires, Overmars all used to go to ground to easy, did he class them as cheats? clearly Wenger jumping on the Anti Suarez bandwagon, so I do think that KK is well within his rights to ask the Fa to look at his comments, surely they bring the game into disrepute? Its not liek Wenger has never been in trouble with teh FA before is it? For saying things he shouldnt have? Hmmmm sound familiar
Scouserjohnny
13 Mar 2012 09:51:54
Kenny what are you talking about"kit deals are as good as points"!!!!??? You are making a fool of yourself again
Could you please step down and take the crap you got with you(Adam,Downing,Henderson,Carroll)you have turned Liverpool in to mid table team and a big joke.
Alright,c'mon! Let's settle this once and for all... If Kenny goes after tonight, who do you want to replace him? You, the nameless poster? Singred
As i do agree with some points ie kit and some players not cutting it.I dont understand why you think it is kenny who has turned us in to a tea pot team?
now am not saying he should be treated like a god ,but as a man who lives for the club.he has delivered 1 cup euro football next year 1 game away from another trip to wembely and 33 pts still to play for.we are also playing football again or tho we are missing the cutting edge,give him time to put this right,and he will!!
Emery,klopp,deshamp,mourinho,van gaal,low, benitez. if any of these were to be backed by the owner like kenny has i think we would be in a better position. just my opinion
You really need to learn to read rather than grabbing onto headlines made up by idiots that want to have a go at Kenny.
He was talking about the progression of the club. If we had more points than last season would the club have progressed? No. How do you measure progression? Well, as KK says:
"You can measure it by how the club has progressed and where it is, from the first team to the kids. Off the pitch, especially, the club is a lot stronger than what it was. You go off the pitch and see how much money we are getting through sponsorship and kit deals (Liverpool agreed a deal with Warrior Sports worth approximately £300 million over six years in January)."
""You look at the academy and see how much better it is. You look around here (Melwood training ground) and most of the people have got a smile on their faces now. The squad is stronger than it was last year. What other areas are there to improve on “ apart from points?"
Some of you seem to want overnight success. It's not going to work like that. Go and support Man City if that's what you want.
LFC have to be self sustainable. FSG could have thrown millions (which they don't really have) at mecenaries like Tevez but the outgoings would be substantially more than the income from success on the field.
This season has been a dissapointment. Our goal conversion rate is terrible. Had we had the same rate as last season (14% compared to 9%) then we'd have bagged another 19 goals and would have been around 52 points. Why Suarez, Kuyt, Carroll and to some degree Downing, haven't been converting chances is weird but I am sure KK will get it sorted out. Hopefully starting tonight! {Ed002's Note - Just to be clear, there is no £300M deal with Warrior Sports. Try halving that.}
Kenny has done nothing but take us backwards another 5 years. Spending BIG on less then average players, attacking the media,Tactics are crazy how do you leave a 35 million pound forward on the bench after he started to make progress.A great player and will always be a legend but i think we need a change. The owners never bought liverpool to win the carling cup and finsh 7th or less. The got the club to win the league and win european cups and backed his crazy spending. 35 million on an unproven kid is not who we should have bought. We should have got experience and we would not be going bed at night dreaming of how many points we would have if we had a forward. Personally i think he has no chance of keeping his job.Eveton have better form going in to this and i think they can beat us. They have jelavic who is better at finding the net then 55 million pound rubbish forwards we have.
Emery,klopp,deshamp,mourinho,van gaal,low, benitez. if any of these were to be backed by the owner like kenny has i think we would be in a better position. just my opinion
and how long would you give these guys to turn us in to league champions 6 months??
Firstly im nailing my colours to the mast right off.. I do not want Kenny to Leave.. I think we have to be patient and allow this team to grow and improve.. we have had moments of utter beauty on the pitch followed by utter rubbish the next.. its coming, we just need to be patient..
However, IF KK did leave.. or worse, was sacked then theres only one man id want for the Job... Brendan Rogers from Swansea!
ItsNotRocketScience
Thanks Ed for picking up on the £300m. Further demonstrates how bad the article is!
Not saying any of them would make us league champions in 6 months but i do believe we would secure champs league at the minimum. how long do you think it will take for kenny to make us champions?
Kenny got the players in that were mid table and overpriced we could have got better players for the money he spent.
so yes i blame your king kenny
Emery,klopp,deshamp,mourinho,van gaal,low, benitez.
Van Haal? Benitez? Mourinho..? Mourinho?! ! You're more deluded than I thought! For one he's about to re-new his contract with R Madrid; two he will demand a kitty of 200mil pds to sign new players. Would the owners give it to him?
Van Haal? Last I heard he was sacked for dragging B Munich through mud.
Benitez? He'll ask for another 100mil pds to revamp the team, then all of you will be screaming for him to be sacked before Dec 2012!
Klopp's team is sitting pretty at the top of the Bundesliga. Why will he ditch that team to come over to us? Also, he's under contract with Dortmund, as with the other managers who are currently with their clubs. We'll have to buy over their contract which will run into millions. Who's paying? You? We're not the chavs.
So who's left...really, if Kenny leaves tonight? AVB? ha! Singred
13 Mar 2012 09:42:43
Yet again we are linked with midfield players ( M'Villa and Isla...)What we all know is that we need is a striker. We also should admit Carrol was panic buy and sell him in the summer. Our model of playing football has developed beyond lumping it into the box for him....Its just a sad fact that 30 goals in 27 games is dire - our approach play has been great at times then we just run out of steam.....Who do we get to partner Luis up front?.ideas?...
Exiled Scouser ....
Adam Morgan
King luis
13 mar 2012 09:19:23
the in list!!
cheick tiote
victor moses
luuk de jong
royston drenthe
darren bent
hugo rodallega
daniiel sturridge
outs!
suarez
carroll
maxi
pacheco
cole
aurelio
I missed downing on the outs
Downing, henderson, adam, kuyt, spearing etc. sell them
Spearing? your a disgrace!! that lad quality
In List..
M.Worm
Isla
Moses
G.Ramirez
Zaha
Hoillet
K.Honda
Sissoko
Rodallega
L.De Jong
Out
Reina
Doni
Jones
Aurelio.
Johnson
Maxi
Downing
Henderson
Kuyt
Adam
Suarez
Carroll
Cole
Aqualani.
Spearing is a low end middle table player not top draw
You would sell reina!!!!!clueless absolutely clueless!!!!!
13 Mar 2012 09:18:57
get lost spurs. your not taking raheem sterling away from us.
If kenny won't play him then I dont blame him for wanting to leave,we are are a sinking ship.
Well, I didn't knew Albert riera was here. lolz.
well, I beleive Sterling would stay with us. May be hw'd be getting some first team exposure, soon. I wish, him and Suso are given a few chances. They both are very good, along with many. Waiting to see how teixeira adopts here. YNWA
His head has been turned!
Just because it's been mentioned by someone that spurs would be interested in signing him doesn't mean that he wants to leave so I think the 'his head has been turned' comments etc are a little premature. Plus the rumour came from the daily mail, enough said.
Kev7
I think if sterling is unsettled on Merseyside then there is every chance he will go to spurs after all he is a London boy, and not everything is about football.
Mike
13 Mar 2012 08:38:13
Ive been reading comments about Kenny etc.. and in part i agree he seems to be lacking slightly in the modern EPL - a couple of things ive noticed:
- Kenny sometimes picks some strange starting 11, leaving players out like Carroll after they have had a good game.
- We persist in playing players like Henderson out of position
- Our players look slow especially midfield players who seem reluctant to get into the box to support the strikers
- One of our biggest threats are our defenders (Skrtel / Agger) from corners not our Strikers from open play.
- Kenny / Clarke for some reason don't change the formation or personnel until its too late in the game he never seems to make positive substitutions early enough in the game for them to have an impact.
IMO Kenny is a good man manager and is figure head for LFC but he isn't a great tactician or coach like Rafa was for us. Clarke is a good defensive coach hence why our defence this season has improved and we look more organised.
As I think Kenny will see out his contract I think we need another coach someone to work on the attacking element of our game because its the reason we haven't won more games. From what ive seen this season Kenny and Clarke cant seem to find a solution - New Coach needed - also what has Kevin Kean done!?
Thoughts?
YNWA jns
Kenny is doing a great job hope he keeps it up.
13 Mar 2012 08:31:32
Do you think young raheem is old enough eds im not reading in to stupid tabloids, as kenny had alot of faith in the young lad even putting him in reserves. However do you think hes ready for first team hes not
Fully developed yet and i dont want his confidence to get kicked out of him. Whats your take on raheem sterling eds.
Scouse ben {Ed002's Note - Try the search function Ben.}
Give the lad a chance,downing has been crap all season.
13 Mar 2012 08:03:44
Andy Carroll needs a mask
Why you might ask?
To hide behind to remove the pressure he feels playing for liverpool and his 35M price tag
Bere with him
Andy would indulge in a fantasy where he remembers to forget where he is and how much he cost. Doing this he can return to his old ways of aerial dominance instead of sitting on his posterior all the time looking like he does not know whats just happened (usually a much smaller defended has beaten him in an aerial battle and he sits on the turf looking bemused)
Andy by suspending reality and embracing Fantasy would be like a new signing
Is it worth a shot?
This could work however we need to find the right sports psychologist, Bob Rotella could leave his golfers for a while and help big Andy.
He needs to play to score - that would be a start!
NS
Andy has played over 30 games how many does ne need before he starts to set the EPL on fire
13 Mar 2012 07:48:17
The way we have played in QUITE a few games this season it's no wonder teams are not worried about us the EFC page is full of how they are going to do us tonight, no doubt Stoke are thinking the same thing for Sunday.
What has happened to commitment and effort even when things aren't going our way, King Kenny needs to address this ASAP and drop players who cannot be Arsxd and I would put Gerrard in this group, yes he has been fantastic but due to injuries he is now well passed his use by date.
EFC will be making a big issue out of this game, we had better get ourselves motivated or we will be humiliated by them and by Stoke, it won't be such a great season then will it, the League cup is already nearly forgotten about, so come on KK kick some butt.
Big Bill
13 Mar 2012 07:42:25
Moyes 10 years in charge = No trophies .
Dalglish 1 year in charge = 1 trophy, Enough said eh lads.
Well we can also count it like this, Moyes 10 year, very oftenly had money to spend. Dalglish 1 year and spended over 100millions. I hate Everton as much as any one but Moyes has done a fantastic job there. Hoping for a Reds win tonight. YNWA
Moyes = no money
Liverpool = 100 mil
Djay
Moyes 10 years in charge - never relegated. Finished top half of the table 7 times, qualified for champions league, and finished 5th twice. With the money he has had, that is a major achievement. Everton have punched above their weight for the past 10 years, while we have been underachieving for most of that time.
To the original poster your a Muppet. Dalglish has spent more in one season than moyes has in 10 years, and as seen as your always going on about net spend on here moyes has a £15million net spend in those 10 years too, so puts your kk to shame really.
You've all come with moyes no this moyes has done this when alls that was originally put was a manager has won a trophy in 1 year and a manager hasn't in 10 and yet that got 6 disagrees when it is a fact ! Haha what a bunch of muppets to say no to a fact ! one word sticks out here BITTERS !
Moyes = no money where have you been for the past 10 years i repeat 10 years not 1 lad . I could have sworn he bought yak and a few others who cost more than 10 mil. Bitter blues all the way lads .
"To the original poster your a Muppet" Original poster here lad ! Are you soft in the head YES of course you are. Where did i mention anything about money eh lad i just stated the trophy facts and its 1 in 1 year against 0 in 10 years now tell me this lad is that not true you MUPPET !
13 Mar 2012 07:32:53
Now maybe it's just me but Kenny should not under any circumstance be defending our league position. Also why is he saying kit deals are just as important as wins?! Is he goin senile or is he trying to be funny? If it's the latter it's not funny and just makes him look stupid.
He's not done very well with publicity and press this year perhaps he should just focus on managing the team.
If Kenny thinks our league position is acceptable then perhaps he is not as driven as he used to be, shanks or paisley would never think Liverpool belonged mid table even if we won both cups. Maybe Kenny still loves football as much as he did but it continually looks like the modern game isn't suiting him. Another year and hopefully he'll get it right, meantime stop making yourself and the club look stupid in the press.
Nevada
13 Mar 2012 06:28:45
i don't say sack kenny or sell him or her!!! just 1 win for 2012 bpl matches are simply not gud enough! why are we not scoring goals?
1. we lack enough man at opposition box to make good crosses count.
2.we have 2 striker one is short of confidience another have pressure scoring
3.likes of adam,hendo n downing are playing under pressure rather than being freely
4.and kenny hasn't been able enough to bring best out of his players
5.coady n shelvey deserve some matches
6.we replaced toress with carrol(injuured carrol) who only played 5 games for us while we could have waited till summer
6.didn't bought striker in winter
i will not say sack kenny or what? just kenny your our manager you bought player you thought will do the job now its ur responsibility to bring best out of them, go against there poor proformance like adam who has been pooR and raise feeling of wining mentality and spirit of playing for lfc we totally lack this time! don,t wana see kk step down and our tell lose!
frastuated red
ynwa~_~
Its better u say..sack kenny than this long sentence...
13 Mar 2012 06:11:10
To all those speaking of Sterling leaving, just to let you know what i heard this weekend from an ex liverpool youth player... He loves his football at liverpool however has some off the field 'personal problems' and has for a while now. This is the first time iv seen any1 question his thoughts for the club so just thought i would let you all know this. He is very much in our plans, just maybe not as quickly as you are sll hoping.
Thanks
Jast
13 Mar 2012 05:35:47
Hey Ed002 why don't you be LFC scout? I've seen most of your opinions about players lie carrol and others before they come to LFC and you were right whether they succeed or not.
13 Mar 2012 05:35:01
To be honest we don't need marquee players to play for us, do we? .. we have a good lot. What we really need is some tough words and hard spanking from kenny to these underperforming lot in training ... Enough of sugaring 'em up ...time for tough love and acceptance of reality.
And to keep the likes of Kuyt, Maxi, Aurelio and Adam on the bench...reserve one preferable!
13 Mar 2012 03:24:53
Where has all of this talk of blooding the youngster because our season has finished come from? I was under the impression that our season finishes on 14th May at home to Swansea. I was always told play to the whistle and never give up. First of all we are in a transition period which will take longer than 15 months and secondly we have possibly the best game in hand to catapult our season, at home to Everton. We are still in the FA cup and the only reason we are not still in the league cup is because we have already won it. Our youth players will be introduced when Kenny thinks that they can handle the pressures of the Premier league, he is the expert when it comes to his kids. He has been watching them constantly for the last few years and has seen them grow and mature into the prospects which they are now, they will be world class when the time is right. Come on our reds lets ruin Moyes' anniversary with a home win.
Scouse_Pride
Our season finished when we sighned Adam ,henderson and downing
Henderson has been bought for the future, Adam is a good player but needs to be more consistent and Downing's crosses are good but we have nobody attacking them.
Scouse_Pride
13 Mar 2012 02:48:59
If Luisito wanna go, ;et him go...
Liverpool FC will never walk alone!
13 Mar 2012 00:48:29
Macca, what is your take on this Sterling ordeal? It seems to me that it is made up. Can you shed any light since you are close to the squad, pal?
Good luck tomorrow young reds.
BthekingB
13 Mar 2012 00:21:04
I'm starting to gt really really worried ab Liverpool fc! So do I stick with my heart and say in Kenny we trust? Or start with all the doom and gloom? ....my point is I think wer somewhere inda middle? Saturdays performance was a joke! No bad luck we wer awful! Yes wer better than under woy and wiv a bitta luck we could off and should of been a lot higher up the table! Thing is I've tried to look at the positives but Adam? Henderson? Carrol? Are they the players to take us to the next level? The media has done a gud job on us with fergie! Suarez looks likely to leave? Please please stop buying overrated British players....rant over
If English is your first language, why don't you use it? You make a reasonable point that gets lost in "cool" speak.
13 Mar 2012 00:04:39
I am in full support of King Kenny but I believe bedding in some of the youngster like Suso or Shelvey or Coady is a good way to finish the season. Considering we only have the FA Cup to play for now. Look at these teams who try youngsters - Arsenal [walcott, wilshere, chamberlain] Tottenham [Livermore, Lennon] and Sunderland [McClean, Colback] all thriving and all doing well. We need to start that!
BthekingB {Ed016's Note - Everyone, including myself likes to see the younger lads get a go. Kenny is very involved with the academy, a lot of youngsters have been blooded though, Kelly, Flanno, Robbo, Spearing and Shelvery are all youngsters, even Henderson is still very young. Raheem got a go in pre season if I remember correctly. We will see how it goes but I like you would like to see some come through before the end of the season but I have no clue when its best to intergrate a youngster into a team}
Cheers Ed016 for the response. I wouldn't like to be like Rafa and have all youngsters play together in a European game. I would prefer to blood them in separately like Kelly has been. Give him a few games here and there and then drop him for a few games and bring him on as an impact sub just to give him some first team football. The player I think deserves it the most at this time is Suso or Coady as they have all the right attributes and have gained strength which was why most of these players don't come through. I think putting one on the bench against Everton and subbing them on for the last 10-15 mins would be a great way to tell the youth academy "if you're good enough youre old enough"
BthekingB
13 Mar 2012 00:04:24
Hi guys, before any1 slates me, please understand that I am not saying this is what our team will be or should be, but just wondering what you guys think about the squad I have structured below. I was just doodling around and came up with a team i think wud be reasonable enough to achieve with the resources we could have, with perhaps some reasonable transfer prices. Although, I have not considered any wages or other costs initially with the deals. Also, I have come up with names that we have been linked with, besides A.peirera (porto), and by also understanding that marin, martinez and lavezzi are very in demand atm. Also, I have estimated we will be able to use money from sales and extra investment from owners, perhaps (30-50m-depends though). I have also acknowledge some of the eds thoughts within my team (like suarez perhaps leaving-not concrete though). So guys what do you think in general (Any critique would be fine/positive stuff too)? (eds you don't have to answer-but can if you want to, cos I know you have so many people nagging you about random transfer stuff. Apologies if this post has annoyed any1, as I am more of a spectator to this site lol, and have been for a long time-Enjoy the banter though)
Reina/Gulacsi
Skrtel /Coates Agger/Wilson
Periera (12m)/Kelly Enrique/Robinson
Lucas/Javi Martinez(18m)
Gerrard/Sissoko(12m) Henderson/Coady
Marin(12m)/ Boudebouz(7m)/Downing/
Lavezzi(24m)/Silva Bellamy
Soldado (20m)/DeJong(16m)/Suso
*Carragher/Shelvy/Sterling/Wisdom (part of squad additions)
Sales:
Adam(4m)/Carroll(15m)/Kuyt(6m)/Aqualani(5m)/
Cole(3m)/Maxi(2m)/Aurelio(free)/Johnson(12m)/
Spearing(2m)/Suarez(30m)/Doni(free) (others missed out ?)
Damn it messed up when I wrote it lol.
Reina/Gulacsi (gk)
periera/kelly (rb)
Skrtel/Coates(cb)
Agger/Wilson(cb)
Enrique/Robinson(lb)
Lucas/Javi Martinez (dm)
Gerrard/Sissoko(cm/rcm)
Henderson/Coady(cm/lcm)
Marin/Boudebouz/Silva(rw)
Lavezzi/Downing/Bellamy(lw)
Soldado/DeJong/Suso(fw)
Boudeboux, luuk de Jong, gaston rameriz complete squad
Similar post from Mine was not posted yesterday ..may be a miss out :)
Indian Red.
Well, Have to say its not FM, friend. Be real, if we have a squad like this, so much new players, who'd u drop. Most of them would like to start wek in, week out. and when not getting that, wuld disrupt the harmony in the squad. C'mon be real. 2-3 new signings, would be enough for us. perhaps 2 wingers and a striker. YNWA
I hear wat ur saying 2-3 signings would be enough but we need a lot more as most the players kk brought are carp, so we not only need a few good signings we also need a new manager
12 Mar 2012 22:09:30
Hey eds i was wondering what managers u think could b tempted to liverpool in the summer im not aking for any rumours just ur thoughts i do think we need 1 i have the upmost respect for kenny no1 could have done what he has done in the last 18 or so months but do think we need sum 1 to come in thnx 4 ur time.
{Ed016's Note - He isn't going to leave after one season after rebuilding a CLUB not just a team. People have very very easily forgotten how bad of a state we were in last year, and the only reason we finished where we finished last season and not at the bottom of the table was because of Dalglish. Therefore I see no one replacing him.}
KENNY IN!!!
cozinoz
Yes kenny is rebuilding but with the money he has spent ( very poorly ) we should be challenging and beating teams like Sunderland! Kenny is using 1980's tactics, wow we won a cup... Narrowly against Cardiff, wake up you deluded lot
Dopey. We did not just win the cup against Cardiff. Do you really think we were parachuted into a final without playing any other games? Just a reminder: Exeter City (away), Stoke (away), Chelsea (away), Man City (away / home). Quite impressive isn't it? Well done Kenny.
DM68
13 Mar 2012 00:04:06
Oh no... Dalglish is defending Liverpool's position in the league. We all where that will eventually lead to if those points don't start increasing. And we better all hope we win Everton and stoke to proceed our journey in the fa cup.
13 Mar 2012 00:03:35
Really think we should bleed some youth in for rest of the season champs league aint happening and we already got europa so whats to lose?
We should be playing
....................reina.....................
Kelly....skrtel..agger....enrique
.........spearing..adam..............
Texeira......shelvey.....bellamy
....................suarez..................
As am not being funny sick of carroll, downing and tbh adam aswell they cant cut it 60 mill wasted henderson tbf has got alot of potential and has looked alright in some games
I would never have Adam in the squad he is useless.
Texeira has proved nothing and he is injured. Many more deserving young reds to play ahead of him.
BthekingB
12 Mar 2012 23:59:55
Alex Ferginson was hired at manchester utd in 1986. He did nothing between 1986 to 1992. Nothing untill Eric Cantina turned up in 1992. So Give kenny Time, kenny is a better manager than ferginson.
SAF: said his aim was to knock liverpool off their £$%$ perch. He went on TV swearing like a idiot, but he managed to do it with enough time. In jail all you have is time. Give a person enough time and they will achieve their goal.
Liverpool are a club that gives the manager 5 season. So the fans should stop it. alot of you have short memories.
Bill Shankly Scotland
1 December 1959 - 12 July 1974 15 years
Bob Paisley England
26 August 1974 - 1 July 1983 - 9 years
Joe Fagan England
1 July 1983 28 May 1985 - 2 years
Kenny Dalglish Scotland
30 May 1985 - 21 February 1991 - 6 years
Graeme Souness Scotland
16 April 1991 - 28 January 1994 - 3 year (moron)
Roy Evans England
31 January 1994 - 12 November 1998 - 4 years
Gérard Houllier France
16 July 1998 - 12 May 2004 - 6 years
Rafael Benítez Spain
16 June 2004 - 3 June 2010 - 6 years
Roy Hodgson England
1 July 2010 - 8 January 2011 - half season
Kenny Dalglish Scotland
8 January 2011 - Present day
you guys are shocking, kenny daligish is one of our most successful living managers.
you fans would prob try to sack Bill Shankly if you could.
with enough time, kenny will get it right.
So-called fans are just crying because we spent 30m net and didn't win the league in one season and are now blaming Dalglish. The quick-fix crew want Mourinho and Aguero and Hazard and instant success despite the fact that Mourinho only takes jobs at moneybags clubs and Aguero and Hazard want the highest wages.
No-one can argue that this season is a bit of a disappointment despite the cup but to blame Dalglish is idiocy - give him at least another season and give Carroll and Henderson the time their age deserves.
Posters like indian buzzer are certainly not LFC supporters even if they are LFC fans and their 'Dalglish Out' chants make a mockery of the world-famous Liverpool support.
IndianBuzzerOut
Kenny is the reason we are in a mess on the field , bolton away , sunderland away etc he doesnt know what to do ,red mick tag
Well, tbh he has done too much bad in recent times. His signings could have been much better. Thats why we are in a mess. I wish he would be getting it right very soon. A few good results badly needed in successive terms. YNWA
U shud have left a name when u mocked me, u nameless poster. N when did i ask for mourinho, hazard n aguero? I just asked for a better manager than kenny, n there r loads of them out there, n better players as well. U honestly think this team will get us into the top4? Im liverpool through n through, but im not a blind supporter. It doesnt take a genius to see that the players bought were average premiership players at best.
Indian Buzzer
Many fans are not crying because we did not win the league; they are crying because our league form is embarrassing. I believe it its the worst in the EPL since the New Year. We are in free-fall. Wake up.
12 Mar 2012 23:35:09
would our season of turned out better with:
Raul Meireles
Alberto Aquilani
I some how think Raul Meireless + Luis Suarez was our best partnership, plus Maxi Rodríguez + Dirk Kuyt use to like linking up with them. it was good football.
Meireles was crap bar 5 games and is crap now.
cozinoz
Thats 5 more than Hendo or Adam tho
12 Mar 2012 23:30:37
Hi Eds & Reds,
Further to my point earlier, its fair to say we havent had a fully fit team for the whole season that would allow for consistency. Agger, Gerrard and Lucas have all had long lays off, Lucas unfortunately been the longest.
Now despite peoples views, opionions of Carrolls personal life, i think hes only really been fully fit in recent weks.
My point been, if you take your centre back, your 2 main midfielders and your centre forward outta of the team, your taking the main spine of the team out.Your not going to get consistency.
In relation to potential signings, i wouldnt mind have Keiyte (spelling) of Barca, ideal cover for Lucas, Spearing is good but i think he is where Lucas was 2 years ago, bags of potential but not quite there.
I aslo cant wait to see Sterling next season, even as a sub, would give us alittle more dimension, i think this could give us diiferent option pending injuries:
Reina
Kelly/Flanagan Skertel/Carragher Agger/Coates Enrique/ Robinson
Sterling/Johnson Lucas/Keiyte Gerrard/Henderson Downing/Maxi
Suarez/Bellamy Carroll/Kuyt/Morgan
Now before people start having a go over bout Keiyte, the man has bags of expierence, and a winning mentality having won la liga and champs league
Stevie G has been an inspirational captain, i aint denying that, you couldnt, i am not saying someone like Keiyte would be an inspirational signing, i just feel we need a player who like Stevie can drag the team up when Stevie is injured/suspended rotated.
All though i am all for signing the "money ball" players, i think signing maybe older expierenced players with a winning mentality will benifit the squad a whole.
Rebel_Red
Well another lame excuse. My question is, when do u think carroll would be 100% fit. It's been more than a year and still he hasn't got fit. Well, when he'd be. He hasn't played too many games that he is tired. He'll have to step up consistently. I blv he can be decent for us, if not more. :(