Liverpool Banter Archive July 13 2012

 

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13 Jul 2012 23:26:28
Thanks to Maxi, a good servant !
Welcome Fabio, I wish you every success.
I'm sure all realistic true supporters will agree.
Next up on my wishlist is to ship out the moaners, doubters, complainers, those with unrealistic expectations, etc etc I could go on but can hardly be bothered with half the expert eejits that frequent here recently.
Good luck Brendan, I'll be supporting every step you make big man !
Red Derry.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 23:07:57
Why do people have a go at the Eds when the info they give is to the best of their knowledge at the time. This "real-time" info you talk about is6 months old. They do a great job. You are just to stupid to to realise things change in time and when a new manager takes charge. Go to bed and try not to wet it you idiot. Eds...you are too kind on these trolls.
Nigel


I agree mate,been reading this site for a long time and i read most of the posts put up and allways look for the eds opinion and info that goes for posters too sometimes its spot on oyhers its only voiceing ideas which is the idea of this site,the rest of the freaks go over my head.dont let them ruin it for you.kyb.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:21:21
Hi eds, this is my eighth post (hopefully it will be posted, none of my others have), what do you think about this? >>>
Now Liverpool have signed Fabio Borini for a reported fee of £8million.
I can see Carroll getting the tour to impress with his feet and ball control. If not I could see him being loaned to a club; Whether that be Fulham or West Ham I don't know.
Furthermore I would like to see Callejon at Anfield, along with Ramirez or James Rodriguez.
Eds, could you say whether we will sell any players apart from Carroll who we would get a decent fee for, Aquilani won't bring too much..and I don't even think anyone would want him.
I could see Lfc signing Simon Kjaer, as Coates showed a bit of his young, immature play last season ..and it would leave Carra to get into coaching or retiring.
Wolfsburg have said he's available and I don't understand why Liverpool won't make a move, he has a decent amount of pace for a CB & he would be extremely interested surely?
Also, I would like to know how much he would cost? For a back up player he wouldn't be bad would he?
Liverpool could sign these:
In:
-Borini £8million
-Ramirez £12million
-Callejon £10million
Out:
-Maxi :(
-Carra (retire, he's too slow)
-Kuyt 1million
-Aurelio (Hardly plays, waste of wages)
What does everyone else think? Realistic or am I dreaming? {Ed002's Note - Please do not put nonsense about us not posting things - it is a good way to get posts cut.}


Aurelio signed for Gremio a while back

cozinoz


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:26:39
Phew that's a relief, when I heard maxi was joining the old boys I thought they meant Chelsea.

All the best maxi you should have played more games for us.

Mo


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:14:41
How much did we get for maxi?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:12:16
Well, Borini is a fantastic signing as we needed someone who could finish, rather than someone who
does fancy tricks and not score. What's more important? Goals or tricks?

KOPZRY


Yeah so why are people so attached to Carroll?

I know you were making reference to Suarez but at least Suarez was our top scorer.


Suarez played 39 PL games with 17 goals

Carroll played 47 games with 9 goals


Thats right my friend.primarily what is a striker bought in to do?to score n nothin else


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:59:14
This is from the Roma web site if any one wanted to know how much we paid sorry about the translation(google)

The A. S. Rome S.p.A. announces that it has signed an agreement with Liverpool Football Club
the outright sale of the rights of the player Fabio Borini, to
against the recognition of a fee of 13.3 million, payable in three equal installments
amount.
The agreement also provides for the award of bonuses tied to performance targets for
Liverpool FC goals of certain sports, for a maximum of 1 million euros.

Tebo


Including all fees like VAT, agents etc. We paid 7.8m for him alone

Irish Redman


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:10:57
any chance of signing walcott


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:06:45
heard it all now the moose at talksport is at it again charlie adam plus cash for couthinho of inter any legs in it??


What does this Moose guy drink to make up rumours like those?

Alex


I think coutinho is a realistic option if they want moura, but Charlie to inter Milan lmao


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:05:47
If thers no money then we need to make some, cause Borini, Allen, and Dempsy just ar'nt going to cut it, the squad is good but 2 players with class for the first 11 is whats needed to get us to the next level, next level being champions league qualification


Also a good squad playing well as a team can win everything. Utd have one or two world class players and yet they are there or there abouts every year.

I understand what you mean and would love it to be that way but it may be slightly un realistic and therefore pointless getting fustrated.

Jordan


"I know the fans are very warm and they're here for football." a quote from borini. i wonder what he'd be thinking if he gets to see your post.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:03:30
consider 8m for a goalscoring international player who is only 21, if he was brittish how much would we have paid for him. a great piece of business. i have only seen clips of him but our management team have worked with him and knows what he brings to the team, if we could compliment this with another couple of astute signings and also promote some of the younger players then things are looking up.

ray


Ray,i do believe you have a point there old chap !! B


Good point if he was an England International with exactly the same stats from last season. "Well the skys the limit? £35m posssibly?
Borini is a bargain even if it doesn't work out we won't lose out.
kidmillions


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:02:53
I love Liverpool football club.
If I don't like what is happening. I will speak out.
I am not being disloyal but concerned.
I think for myself and don't need posts to tell me to support the club, come what may.
I am very unhappy that Rodgers is the manager. I have been around long enough to know that this is a major mistake.
Swansea have the best deal, they have Laudrup.
I love the club but I am not happy about the direction. It is just a business venture for the Americans. Football is not their culture.
I didn't want Rafa or Kenny to go. But they have.
Don't kid yourself about Rodgers, he is small time.
It is not disrespectful to criticise the team you love.
It is loyalty.


Don't you realise, every big manager has to start somewhere. Most so called 'big' managers started small and developed as they went on. For example, Marcelo Lippi was Atalanta manager before going onto Juventus which is a huge step and he succeeded. Give Brendan Rodgers a chance to prove himself!! YNWA


Wow! With your football judgement you must be on Barca's shortlist for their next DoF. No doubt the FA also consult you.


Some people in life see a glass that is half full. Others......

PieInTheSkyMan


Criticising your club and it's players and manager before being given a chance is not what I call loyalty, being loyal to a manager who provided us with the most dire football I've seen in more than 50 years on the Kop, is not great for the new manager to read from his new clubs LOYAL fans. It is disrespect and most certainly not loyalty, it is small mindedness at best because people who know more than you about the game haven't done what you want. For BR's sake and LFC in general go and be loyal to another club.
John B


Our fans our getting worse! You used to go on forums blogs etc and it was opposing fans slamming our players management etc there is absolutely no need for them to do that anymore as our own fans like yourself and many others do it for them. Your post is having a go at your fellow supporters who urge people like yourself to get behind their team and show support, what do you hope to achieve with the negativity? Do you want BR out before giving him a chance. The big names don't always work out but all of them started somewhere and finally could you please tell me what you've seen in laudrup as a manager that you haven't seen in BR?


Maybe you need to compare Brendan's stats with Laudrups? Maybe you need to actually give Brendon Rogers a chance before you hammer him? Maybe, you should support your team even if Elmo was the manager? That is loyalty.

cozinoz

ps. Elmo's a Red


We havent even played a match and you are moaning your some gowl. If we stayed with benitez we would be alot worse off look what he did to Inter and they had just won da champions league and all domestic competitions so stop talking out your ars and give Brendan a chance or f**k off and support some big time manager like benitez and the great team he is managing oh wait he cant get a job.


You have "been around long enough to know this is a major mistake" but Rodgers has not been around long enough to put out a team out, mate. Lets give the bloke a minute. I am not questioning your love for the club, just trying to understand why the pessimism? Maybe just try an open mind until you have actually seen a ball kicked.

Andy K


Haha this is the funniest thing i have read ever.

You reckon you been round long enough to know major mistakes?! More like you haven't been round long enough to know that success doesn't come over night unless you have unlimited funds of man city or chelsea ad even they took a few years to win things.

Loyalty is always being there by the side of that someone or thing and wether you like it or not all our squad our owners and our manager are LFC! Only if you are by there side and give them a chance can you really be loyal.

They havent even played a game! Speak out but think before you do be realistic.

JD


The guy hasnt even had a game in charge and your totally discrediting him already?

D Steve


Ultimately it was the owners decision to make.
Every manager has to start somewhere, as does every player.
Give him time, and support him, that's the best we fans can do.


BR has yet to prove himself,we have faith.You have already proved yourself,a w**k*r !! B


Whoever taught monkeys to type has a lot to answer for.
derryred


'I have been round long enough to know...' and yet you write and sound like a child. How contradictory. How can you write such crap without seeing Rodgers take charge of one F***ing game?! And how can you be sure of laudrup? Oh that's right, your just a douche...
CQ


You have an awful lot to say for an unamed poster?
kidmillions


 

 

13 Jul 2012 22:00:27
with thiago silva leaving ac milan could you see pato maybe more likley considering leaving ac milan? i say if theres any real interst in andy carroll from the (which i doubt) we should do a carroll plus cash deal for pato! i want AC to stay but id much rather have pato! thanks eds your amazing Jpowlfc


Pato will be another aquilani. he is a good player but is a sick note who will be on huge wages. do we really want that ?
derryred


Patos over-rated and injury prone and costly for it aswell.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:59:26
i for one am absolutely delighted with the borini signing this lad has real quality and he is the fox in the box that what we needed last season. if all our other transfers are of this caliber of player , this age and this price i will be a happy man. no giant transfer fee resting on his shoulders. he will do very well and has my full support. good luck borini.
Also ed002 what do you think of him as you must have seen a small bit of him at chelsea. is he a good signing in your opinion??
Johnaldinioh {Ed002's Note - I never went in the showers at Chelsea so cannot discuss any size related issues.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:49:38
Is it true that Ibra and Thiago Silva have both signed for PSG? Do you think that since this means Milan will be looking for a striker, they may make a bid/loan offer for Carroll?


Why would AC Milan want Carroll? They will go for Tevez or Suarez


Why would lfc or city sell Suarez or tevez right now.


Well City, I am sure would be more than glad to get rid of Tevez after the drama last year. Agreed that he provided the final push in the title run but I am sure Mancini or the club will not want a similar situation again. RedRay


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:44:59
A lot of supporters are ridiculing our transfer policy, but one things for sure, Borini will run more than Kuyt, he will score more than Kuyt, Bellamy and Maxi put together, he is a hard working footballer with a great work ethic and a hunger to score goals.
Our young, hungry manager has bought a young, hungry player for next to nothing in todays market. Give him a chance, technically he is top drawer, tactically he is very very astute, just look at his positioning for the goals he takes, he is exactly the goal poacher we need right now.

I was sad to see Maxi go, good luck to him, I also hope Carroll and Bellamy stay, I understand Carroll may not fit into the managers system but as an impact player he will scare the daylight out of defenders in the final third of games where we are struggling to score.

We do not have silly money to spend on transfers and wages, we know that, but I dont think we need to and Im glad we have a manager who seems to think the same.

****5
Prestige Worldwide


Listen you cant tell how anybodys going to perform especially with young players, you cant predict the future. We all just hope he has a good start and fufills the potential that the managers thinks he has


Prestige worldwide, what a nickname!
awesome!
boatsnhoes!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:44:16
Hi Ed's, sure you have been asked before but what is the situation with Carroll now that Borini has been signed? We paid 35mil for Carroll and not sure FSG will want to take a huge nock on losing money as I doubt we will get 20mil for him. I would rather keep Carroll, he has improved big time and with Rodgers we might just see Carroll become even better.

Red4life {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}


Yea,agree borini is a good prospect,
problem with carroll is that if he does not star games then his fitness suffers worse than most other players,so its a bit of a catch 22.if he signs for fulham or the hammers he will start games and be a good player for them,but if he stays at liverpool then he will be on the bench and unfit when a chance to play comes.

red jay


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:41:25
Hi eds..herad an everton supporter talking today he reckons there going too win the league.do you reckon this is believable or unbelievable.maybe its just a rumour..great site.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:40:17
The signing of Borini may well be a very shrewd move to help Aqualani settle, as I would like to see more of aquaman in a Liverpool shirt.
I wouldn't be surprised to see another Italian player arrive, not sure who but my thoughts are we are looking for a left wing back and defensive midfielder. Any likely suspects?

LiverPaul


I doubt that the plan is to build a 'family' for Aquilani.


No doubt that dynamic will have been taken into consideration,good point!I like Aqualani,hope this is the case and hope he gets a chance !! B


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:34:16
Hi Ed's maybe a pointless question and im sorry in advance..aha but what will the partnership with the 'growing' Indian airline (i think) annouced recently bring?

BenO' {Ed002's Note - Garuda is a partner for travel and it will see some joint marketing efforts and bring benefits in kind.}


Less of the ignorance though, Garuda is the national flag carrier of Indonesia and Indonesia is a whole different country to India ..
Its worth noting Indonesia population is near enough 300m and most of the youngsters are football crazy with the support divided between United and Liverpool , Its huge market that Mr Ayre have tapped into .. well done to him.
Roy


Garuda is an Indonesian airline, not Indian. If you ask most Australians who they would least like to fly to Bali with..........

cozinoz


Garuda is an airline with an appalling safety record. Indonesian airlines were even banned from flying to the EU at one stage.

It might help them tap a market of more than 300 million but I'm not looking forward to my beloved Liverpool flying on it.

The only thing good about it is that the stewardesses are cute and the service is awesome sometimes.

TN


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:36:52
in terms of excitement, i'd put borini on par with the signings of henderson, coates, aquilani, suarez, torres and morientes. very happy indeed


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:32:34
If Borini is to wear no. 29 why is he pictured in his hand shake photos on the LFC web site wearing no. 6?


Because they just give them any shirt to wear I think it was Henderson who was in in no.10 shirt for photos last year and is no.14

JW


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:32:17
Alright Eds, Seeing as though Borini has signed, another Italian.. do you think that will strengthen the chances of Aqualani staying, or playing? He fits in with BR style of passing play!

Cheers YNWA JC {Ed002's Note - It will make no difference.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:31:26
Macca you said one of your source's is a first team player and it's obviously true because you get the majority right, so could you tell him to recommend G.Ramirez to Rodgers mate cheers haha


Quality Idea lets start putting in requests haha Jordan


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:30:03
Hi Ed's & Reds,
Does anybody know if we retained any sort of fee for Maxi, also how much we payed for Fabio?
There has been figures from €10m to €14m+ talked of. (Borini not Maxi)
Thanks,

Markolfc


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:28:27
what are we going to do about the right wing, can we afford someone like walcott or even di maria?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:27:03
Ino this may seem a long shot, but if modric does goes to madrid which is looking increasingly likely, i there any chance we could sign alonso? Also, hearing rumours about sturridge, any truth in those rumours?
Thanks {Ed002's Note - Try the search function please.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:43:29
Eds ,when do the squad leave for tour of USA.cheers psv
{Ed002's Note - Next Wednesday.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:24:33
Borinis signing is so exciting that on the bbc sport football homepage JT story is first then Rangers demise and even Maxi LEAVIN is bigger news then Borini signing!!! Its as if a team like stoke or fulham jus made a signing no disrespect to them.... but not a high profile signing at all hopefully he is a gem but i must say im slightly worried...

Dub_Red YNWA


Who cares what the media thinks? We'll hit em running.

We dont buy superstars, we make em.


Its not exactly news as it has been expected to happen for the past week.


Your worried because we've signed a 21yr old Italian international who scores goals?!


Grow up , id rather have players like borini who actually want to be at the club than mercenaries who only want the money who is to say he wont be like rossi when he left the scum and went to spain couldn't stop scoring mayb borini could be like that for us and for 8m i don't see much risk in it !!


Im getting slated for pointing out that borinis
signing is underwhelming?? its hardly an alonso,torres,luis garcia,glen johnson, mascherano profile signing all of which we were signing not to long ago.. Can you honestly say that you dont think our targets of top class players has diminished in recent years?? upto 2 or 3 years ago every season the likes of chelsea and utd would talk about liverpool as real title contenders now were not even on their radar!!

Dub_Red YNWA


No one in the media cared when Suarez signed as it was all about Torres and carrol and look how that turned out. It doesn't mater what the media think.


It's called news judgement.

Two stories are huge and Maxi is someone more people have heard of and it's a "today" story. As previous poster said Borini signing on the cards or days so it's mere confirmation. Simples.

PieInTheSkyMan


I think there are a few points Dub_Red. 1) In majority, they left Anfield bigger names that when they arrived or are bigger names than when they arrived.
2) How were I finances after this management?
3) I am more than happy to stay off the radar if it means we have a great season.

Lets just give it some time mate. While we as Liverpool fans have waited a long time for league glory, Rodgers hasnt had a chance to pick a team, let alone a full and finished squad, let alone a competitive game.

Andy K


Who was luis garcia, mascherano was a under acheiving player at west ham and even alonso wasnt known like he was now! Glen johnson was rejected by the likes of chelsea. They werent exciting at the time either! Narrow minded!


Liverpool needs to stay away from the media for a while because we wer dragged thru the mud by them last year.being in the back ground is much better for lfc.
Kp


14 Jul 2012 11:45:54
Dub_Red, Man U signed a similar player for a similar price in Hernandez... does the trick for them.

dd


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:23:07
edds great site very addictive (as the wife knows ha ha) sorry but one complaint. Hopefully you can shed some light. Any reason why the site takes so long to update. Cos its so addictive i check at least once every 15mins but can take an hour or so to catch up. Can you let of know please. {Ed002's Note - It is every 10 minutes but if nobody has checked the posts it looks like nothing is happening. A lot of posts are duplicates and get deleted, a there has been a lot of abusive posts then the Eds will let it go for a while.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:22:02
Hope the lad does well but i think Mr Rogers is easily excited


Coulde we have a "idk" button in the middle?

The Rob.


Why do you want to say "I dont Know" to it when it wasnt a question?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:18:28
I for one am very excited about Borini. Let's back this boy with all we have. Secondly with Carroll's exit very likely do you expect another forward to sign? Or would Dempsy Fill the LF/RF roll?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:16:09
borini can get us between 20-30 goals next season so we can challange for the title.. come on the reds


Like your enthusiasm but think 20-30 goals is a bit optimistic, my concern is if he gets injured who will fill the gap with maxi,kuyt and prob carroll gone?


Erm not like he cost £35m (cough andy) or even £20m (cough jordan, downing)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:15:27
I've heard that liverpool could go in for scott sinclair as he only has 1 year left on his contract and he dosent want to discuss a new deal yet until after the olympics so swansea might have to cash in on him now.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:09:05
Big Andy is definitely on the way out on hols in Brazil right now pissed off with the speculaion. Does not want to go back to the toon.

In the middle of buying a house Henderson defo in the plans will take over the purchase

west ham favs but Andy does not want to go but will be given little option

Rotr


I believe he said he was going to stay and fight for his place.


This not speculation but fact as of this time he may and try to fight for his place but is not wanted by BR

Rotr


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:08:52
"Borini is a chelsea and swansea reject. Ive seen a few of his games, he's no better than ngog or carroll. rodgers is a joke"
No, Rodgers isn't a joke at all, you are the joke, you clearly haven't seen Borini play, and if you have and think he is "no better than Ngog" then you should find another sport to watch as you clearly know nothing about football. For the last time, Borini rejected Chelsea, not the other way around, and it was well know how well he did at Swansea, and how much they wanted him to stay, so wise up.
If you are a Liverpool fan you should be ashamed, however I suspect you are a wum, possibly an Everton or Man United fan. Just out of interest Ed, why is rubbish like this allowed to clog up the site? Or is this the standard of posts that come through? As if it is it's rather embarrassing to fans like myself.
JFT96
Smithy


Borini WILL contribute more in his first season in terms of goals and assists than Carroll has in his first full season at Liverpool.

carroll
9 goals in all competitions + 5 assists in all competitions = directly helping Liverpool get 14 goals.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:06:13
"echo saying that Owen set for Goodison medical" wasnt he like that for a lot of his career.

ray


Owen is always set for a medical. Two or three times a season.

cozinoz


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:05:44
Macca thanx 4 tellin us about borini are we close t completin any more deals macca/eds ?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:05:24
I think Shelveys signed a new contract mate


 

 

13 Jul 2012 21:01:39
Hearing that maxi deal to old boys is done! Number of sources.

Redjay


Yeah it's on the Liverpool Website mate -McMenemy


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:59:07
Hi Eds, just wondering what is the fee that LFC have paid Roma for Fabio Borini? I've heard about so many different fees ranging from £7-15m and I just wanna know what the actual fee is the LFC have paid Roma for the player.

Thanks

Reid the Red {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:57:18
am very unimpressed by borini signing hope im wrong


Give the lad a chance mate . weve paid 8 mill for italys 3/4 forward and hes only 21 . we would of paid double that for defoe and even more for bent and there average at best .

trev d


I'm unimpressed with your comments borini will be a good player reminds me of inzaghi real poacher

RED KENNY


Am very unimpressed by the stupid fans who have no idea about a player yet still trash him.


Sign your name. So I can tell you your wrong.
BigBadBen


He hasn't even played for us yet. How can you judge him. He maybe the next best thing give him a chance


I honestly think that he will score goals. we create soooo many chances and he knows how to finish.


Looks a real dood player,but really hope he stays onside better than inzaghi.

red jay


Can someone please tell me why did Roma sell Borini in the first place? And that he reminds someone of Inzaghi a real poacher.if he was that good then why did Roma sell him.


Double your money offer, like we did with torres, called good business


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:56:22
I think this is the sort of deal we should be looking to do more of. To sign an Italian international forward for around 8 million pounds is a great bit of business. Somebody with the potential to be a very good player and who is incredibly determined and hard working, I personally am very happy with the addition, and am very much looking forwards to seeing him during pre season and next season. Just think of the movement of a front 3 of Dempsey, Suarez and Borini, all three can play in the 3 different positions and will constantly be inter changing, whereas last year we were far to static and predictable. We would also have 3 players more than capable of finding the back of the net regularly, with Gerrard and co coming from midfield, and one of the best defence's in the League, playing pass and move, and dominating, give Rodgers time, it will work.
JFT96
Smithy


Dempsey said he wants Champions league footy at this stage in his career. He wont sign for us. he's brutal anyway


Dempsey and 10m is not good enough for Carroll, Andy is still only 23 and is a dangerous player who will get better, watch as Fulham reap the benefits in the next 2 years as he comes into his full potential and then sell him for a mega profit to probably Chelsea or City. Where will Dempsey be in 3 years, well past his best and thinking of retirement, and no mega profit for Liverpool

Crank


If we sell Caroll to fulham I would insist on a 50 % sell on clause, I think he will come v good and end up moving onto a champions league team. I can't see the sense in selling him.

Gazman


Erm look at it this way who is better, who fits BR system....its Dempsey. there you go finished

That would be like 18m for Carroll because we are prepared to pay 8m for Dempsey right and we are prepared to take a £20m lose on Carroll which is a fee of £15m...so 10m plus Dempsey would see us save or get £3m more than we would if we got Dempsey for £8m and sold Carroll to another team for £15m.



Reina
johnson. skrtel. agger. enrique
gerrard. lucas. AQUILANI
BORINI. suarez. DEMPSEY

and people can you stop like saying aqua is shyt because he is our 3rd best midfielder after lucas (1st and most important), gerrard (2nd best)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:51:58
Dempsey a very realistic possibility to sign as soon as Monday with Carroll going the other way and ourselves pocketing around £10million. Joe Allen will sign, but expect a transfer saga there. Obviously it's not concrete but if Swansea are open to offers then we'll go for him and with the Rodgers influence we'll bag him, but expect someone to go the other way, likely on a loan deal. Swansea went for Sterling on loan last season but Kenny was reluctant to send him out so that could be a possibility. Also hearing whispers (definitely not strong enough to be a rumour) about Sam Ricketts coming in from Bolton as a backup to Enrique, but I really can't see that one being true.

Sean The Red


I would like to see allen but if you think we will bag him just because of rodgers then think back to siggurdson a few weeks ago, like i say i would like it but its by no means nailed on, also sterling cant go on loan he's too young i think its december before he's eligible for a loan


Sam ricketts, ur having a laugh, il get me boots out, he's f*^#*#* crap.


Sterling cant go on loan hes too young so very much doubt swansea wanted him on loan unless they havent got a clue about the leagues rules which I highly doubt...

Dub_Red YNWA


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:51:11
Siggirson scored More goals then borini and hi is midfielder


But Sigurdsson couldn't get in the A team of hoffenheim
Borini on the other was called up for Italy


Sig scored 7 in 18 games last season borini scored 9 in 20 starts for roma so your talking b****cks also borini 6 in 9 games for swansea gives him a strike rate of 1 in every 2 games approx so far in his career, i'd be happy with that. that would push him up around 20 goals a season mark


Siggirson? Not very easy to take you serious mate. Borini had the third highest goals per minute rate in Seria A last year, behind Ibra and Di Natale


W ell tort out p ost. Bed time now.
BigBadBen


I believe Borini scored 9 league goals last season. He's also got 6 in 9 for Italy.


Factually inaccurate. You are the weakest link, goodbye.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:50:39
Eds/macca, do you think there will be anymore signings before the us tour on Monday?
Many thanks Jamie


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:50:37
Question for the eds, there are a number of reported fees being touted about for borini, just wondering if anybody knows the actual fee that we payed to Roma.
Thanks {Ed002's Note - Including VAT, agent fees, VAT on agent fees, signing on fee?}


Would i be right in saying that VAT would be reclaimed though Ed? {Ed002's Note - Not on the agent fees.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:48:45
Twitter.
Liverpool FC News Ź@LiverpooIFCNews
Adam Morgan, Jordon Ibe, Raheem Sterling, Suso + more youngsters are going on the USA Tour, excellent news.

r-r


I wanted to see Teixeira play but don't think he is going...


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:46:21
Very strong rumour that Dempsey will signed the weekend .at 29 still has a lot to give 7.5 mill plus add ons (not sure what what they are!) very strong rumour forever red


I think we'll be looking to get Dempsey for a lesser fee than £7.5m.

RedSG


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:42:17
Now that borini has signed just wondering eds or macca what he brings to anfield What we haven't all ready got , personally I don't think our strikers are the problem more the wingers to supply the final touch help me realise why!! Trueredhuntcross12 (on iphone findin it hard to connect to playerprofiles.co.uk, long time follower . Give me he reason !! Help!!) great work !!


Are you serious? Even a bat could see we needed more striking options!


Seriously, with the chances we created last year and lack of goals then you don't think strikers are the problem?!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:41:31
Hi Eds, and/or fellow reds. This may just be me having friday syndrome, but has the fee for Borini been officially disclosed? I've seen several posts on here claiming different things and can't seem to find anything from online sources.

Thanks in advance. Love the site! {Ed002's Note - In the big scheme of things it really doesn't matter. Are you including VAT, agent fees, VAT on agent fees?}}


Ed what would the fee be for all of the things included {Ed002's Note - And signing on fee?}


Obviously it doesn't really matter as the deal is done regardless but I'm curious to know. And no, just the reported figure. e.g. We signed carroll for £35million


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:41:00
who's gonna be wearing the number 10 shirt..


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:40:23
Good news Jay Spearing + 8 million is being used as a make weight with fulham for Dempsey. Happy with that


Isn'y dempsey worth 8m, y wud we offer 8m + spearing(worth about 2m)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:39:18
Whhhhhen the ball hits the net its the Chelsea reject thats Boroni
Whhhhen the kops sings his name and he score once again thats Boroni


Cant wait to hear that being sung at Anfield,100/100 mate.


More like he rejected Chelsea's contract offer


Its BORINI not Boroni.....so no other fans can sing about him being baloney

cozinoz


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:38:22
On a scale of 10 being Walcott and 1 being Mertesacker how fast is Borini?


Ha, I love this. Genuinely made me chuckle.

Papa G


With or without the ball? but anyway i think he is 7 muniain would be an 12


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:30:18
Pleased with the new signing, young goalscorer who will only improve with age. alongside whom i think will be the best player in the Premier league next season Luis Suarez we will have plenty more goals next season, its looking good.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:29:12
Personally i feel we shouldn't sell or loan carroll, unless we get a decent bid that can be reinvested in a decent player.
We only have suarez, carroll and now borini, (which may i add for 8 million, is a good, potentially great, piece of business). With kuyt gone and bellamys future unclear it seems odd to sell a player who has shown increased potential in the end of last season and in the euros.
However, as much as i don't want carroll to leave, i feel as he won't fit in the new system, i would be happy for him to leave for 20 million, and then the funds to be reinvested on another torres/suarez type player. Who do you think would be a suitable replacement? Or will carroll be sold/ loaned at all? Thanks eds


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:23:21
Why does Rodgers insist on going after his former players? Borini is a chelsea and swansea reject. Ive seen a few of his games, he's no better than ngog or carroll. rodgers is a joke


Seems you have clicked on the wrong page jog on :-)
John


He's a top young striker,who will only improve and who's value will soar.10 million euro's for him is not a gamble.It's good business and another tick for Macca


I watched messi in "a few" games at the world cup in 2010 and he wasn't great. Basing how good a player is because you've seen him in "a few" games makes you a joke in my opinion


Wow a Swansea reject? He was on loan there u stupid muppet and Chelsea reject? He let his contract run out as he wanted to leave and Chelsea were desperate to keep him, he's a Italy international at the age of 21. And Rodgers wants to reunite with his former players as they how he plays. You sir are a retard.


Completely different player to carroll; poor comparison as carroll is great at what he does and will give us options. ngog! are you joking?! borini is a 21yr old italian international striker already! it good busineess you person as he can only get better.
Geez


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:22:31
as regards aquilani, what is he supposed to have done to make so many supporters hate him, he s a quality footballer who can actually really play. a midfield of gerrard and lucas with him slightly advanced is as good as whats in the league, did dalglish not fancy him as a footballer or what, was he homesick?
he never really seemed to get a chance to get going here.
he could be like a 20 million signing if utilised well in games against lesser opposition where it isnt so much of a war.

if i were rodgers i wouldnt be letting a player of his ilk go for nothing not if you can get him playing like i think most of us know he can and there s enough steel with gerrard and lucas playing deeper to accomodate his silky skills.

i for one hope he is truly considered by rodgers as i can see him sliding balls through for suarez and borini all day


Are you serious, or taking the p*ss? What has he done to make us hate him? We paid £16 million quid or thereabouts for him, and he basically refused to play. He has as much passion to play for LFC as a dog turd outside Old Trafford. He even made sure he was getting married on the same day that pre season started. He might as well have spit on his shirt as far as I'm concerned. Yes, he has some skills, but he has zero, and I mean zero, respect from me. I hope he never puts on a Liverpool shirt again, I don't care if he 'fits in well' to any bloody style. The man (in the loosest, girly crybaby sort of sense) is a spineless mercenary toe-rag.

Nick


Plus the suggestion by one of the Eds that he faked an injury to get out of a training session. Not wanted unless he grows a pair

cozinoz


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:18:18
Im a bit Spectacle about the Borini signing..We shud be settin our sights higher..like soldado or jovetic..


Nope he s young hugnry and a goalscorer and didnt cost the earth

astute signing

tom1975


Spectacle
I fugging love this site!!

Chris in Tamworth


I bet you are a "glasses" half full sort of person.


We aren't in the Champions League therefore 'big name' players such as Soldado or Jovetic wouldnt consider a move anyway

Hans


I'm a bit spectacle, quality, someone's bin on the sauce, lol.


If you are so Spectacle, perhaps you should Contact Lense your nearest Specsavers to get it sort out.

Otherwise you just sound like a poor 'Doctor, doctor' joke.

Jolly Red


"spectacle about Broini" & "our sights higher"

You got a secret craving to be an optician?

JRG


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:15:00
borini for 8 mill good price for him i think when you consider what we spent on downing etc last year !


Very astute signing i think and very much designed around how rodgers likes his sides to play with forwards pressing high up the field like kuyt and suarez do, borini had the highest tackling rate of any roma forwards last season
hes young , his goalscoring celebration shows you how much he desperately wants to succeed , makes intelligent runs off the ball and knows how to score, could be the bargain of the century at 8 million, i can see him netting 15-20 goals this season with services from gerrard suarez etc

tom1975


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:14:43
Hi Eds

Im a bit disappointed to see Carroll linked with a move away particularly since we seem to be interested in Dempsey, thought that would have a lot of potential as a plan b for Rodgers with Dempsey running on to any drop downs from Carroll.

Think we should give Bornini and any other ins a chance, look at City last year, arguably best players were the lesser money signings like Kompany and Zabeletta


And arguably the best players were the big money ones like silva yaya and aguero


Kompany was city s player of the year for the last two seasons, but they all added their bit big money and small money signings

note kompany took a year or so to really establish himself as a top top cb, hope our youngsters ie borini henderson etc are given as long to shine


tom1975


City are shopping in Harrods unfortunately we are shopping in Tesco. The point is there can still be good players available that dont have to be marquee £30million +


Carroll is really worth £15m and that is the truth and that is something LFC have had to accept including the supporters who first questioned the £35m spent on him.

but i would only want to see him go to AC Milan there he will be given the time and attention to progress as a beast.

because the truth is the manager we have now plays a certain style of football and would you rather stop the development of carroll as well as suffering the team by playing people that can't play a certain way?

we knew from the start that we weren't going to get the money back for carroll and and i wouldn't have minded seeing carroll stay but not when we are trying to play passing, possession & movement. it just wouldn't make sense.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:13:52
Hi ed. do all players have a bye out clause, and if so what is Suarez's. Cheers Murray {Ed002's Note - No they don't.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:08:40
I told you yesterday that borini would sign today. Wearing his lucky number 29 shirt. Dempsey soon to follow, exciting times ahead at anfield.

BC


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:08:04
just bought a shirt borini 29


Are you disagreeing because you know he did not buy the shirt, Or because you are Bitter?


I was about to disagree to the second post but thought that was a bit childish so i pressed agree


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:07:38
Borini in good signing if we are to play like spain we need two signings to make a perfect summer we need alonso, he said he wants to come back lets go out and get him while he can still influence at highest level the other signing either has to be allen from swansea for 10m or if not go out and spend big on moutinho my player of euros if spurs are saying they want him lets get in first and spend big we can recoup money by selling carroll spearing adam


 

 

13 Jul 2012 20:05:17
welcome to the family fabio ,looking forward to c you play ,good young up and cumin player
ynwa lfc linc


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:58:28
Aquilani (if he were to stay) linking up with Borini could prove deadly i believe he's a good purchase and i expect great things of him!


Alberto can certainly play and i believe would do really at the apex of a three man midfield with lucas and gerrard


Id rather have hendo play instead of aquilani. The kid needs more game time n confidence to improve.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

13 jul 2012 19:57:27
fabio borini........
i hope he's betta than the last italian we wasted money on!!!
pt77


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:57:07
Kind of creepy pics of borini's medical up on lfc website well I guess it doesn't get more official than a guy in his boxers getting his blood pressure taken


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:56:55
We are soon to criticize journalists and people but macca and BBC called the Borini deal so well done guys. Also some eds described it as lazy journalism so let's give credit.

Anyway welcome Fabio. A real good prospect and will make it big at our great club. YNWA.

Mighty reds


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:56:15
Yay we signed someone! Rejoice.

Let's hope he has a great first season

Hopefully Dempsey next.

And can I just say thank you and best of look to Maxi, I really didn't want him to go.

Rob


14 Jul 2012 11:47:35
This is my first post I've read the site for a while and Macca seems to be spot on with his predictions. Hate how some people claim to be a Liverpool fan but just look to moan about anything it's pathetic. Full of hope for next season ynwa p.s any news on Adam Johnson?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:54:12
Borini has signed...interview online lfctv!

welshkizzopite


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:51:00
Thank you maxi great servant to club. Best performances against Chelsea numerous times. All the best for the future.


I think great servant to the club may be a slight exaggeration. although not the worst player to wear the shirt.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:50:34
hey edds, great job. apart from borini who looks set to join, which 3 players would you say are most likely (not definetely) to join? {Ed002's Note - Why not take the time to read the other posts?}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:50:05
Mmmm....like the look of this kid. The first piece of the jigsaw is in place! 3 more signings to come?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:49:13
Anyone else see Dempsey as a stalling tactic for Sterling. Dempseys a good player and isn't showing his age but he will in a few years, hopefully then Sterling will come into play. -McMenemy


I thought Dempsey would simply cover Gerrard and Carroll as AM & CF when required .

EdWood


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:48:49
So are you excited about playing at Anfield every other week now this season?

"Yes, every other week in a full stadium. It will be amazing. I know the fans are very warm and they're here for football."

i take it he hasnt seen the so called fans on here then.


M8 know wot you saying ,but there some ov the best fans on here as well , who know wot they talking about and are 150 % behind liverpool and very out weigh the people who you are on about ,so lets not
paint the people on here the same coz ov a few well done guys to every one on here you know who you are keep it up great reading all your posts
ynwa lfc linc


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:48:05
Liverpool have signed fabio borini!! N whoever said his going to be wearing the number 6 shirt you was totally wrong! He is going to be wearing the number 29 shirt! Exciting times for Liverpool FC!

Thank you eds for your hard work :)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:46:47
"Liverpool have today confirmed they have completed the signing of AS Roma forward Fabio Borini," read a statement released on the club's official website.

"The Italy international has put pen to paper on a long-term deal with the Reds after agreeing terms and passing a medical at Melwood.

"In joining the club, Borini becomes Brendan Rodgers' first signing as Liverpool manager."


ReDDaZ


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:45:45

Upto now that's Kuyt, Aurellio and Rodriguez gone which means we've probably gained around £180,000 a week in wages.

I'd like to see Spearing, Adam and Eccleston follow freeing up more funds.

Unsure what Borini is gonna be on, but I expect 40,000 a week bracket to be honest.

If we could sign the below I'd be very happy with our business this summer..

Gaston Ramirez. 17 million.
M. Krasic. 6 million.
I. Afellay. 7 million.
R. Elm. 8 million.
S. Defour. 10 million.

Hopefully Downing will be sold too freeing up more money.

Jonesred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:44:50
My Italian uncle's wife's cousine is a maid for Borini and she just said that she was working overtime to pack all the clothes for Borini. (I wonder why)

She also mentioned that he gave her some old Chelsea, Roma and Parma jerseys. I was on the phone with her yesterday and she asked me what to do with old jersey and I told her to use Chelsea jersey to wipe table and kitchen and sell rest on Ebay...

Live-On-Pool


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:44:32
(just one corneto)

Fabio Borini, score goals for me.
He's come to Liverpool, from Italy.
His pace, is just supreme.
Fabio Borini, score goals for me.


Great stuff.

Absolutely classic. Well done. It deserves to be a classic LFC song. Brilliant!

I had a try to give a little Italian flavour in the 2nd line - to make the kid feel at home - whilst I left the rest as it is (it's just perfect).

--------------------------------------

Fabio Borini, score goals for me.
e arrivato in Liverpool - forma It-al-y!
His pace, is just supreme.
Fabio Borini, score goals for meeeee!

--------------------------------------

BJH YNWA

What do you think? It means the same - (He arrived in Liverpool, from Italy).

ps - Cornetto sales could go through the roof!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:42:52
taxi for maxi

alan waddle


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:42:12
So Borini has signed, Macca was right.

Should we then expect Allen and Dempsey to sign.

Out of 10 how likely are they?

Macca? Eds?

Anfield719


It didn't take a genius to work that one out so I don't think Macca deserves any praise. Is it just me or does he speak what we all know?


Unfortunately Liverpool have been linked with every player in the world this transfer window, and most of the time it is complete bulls**t. Yes, im sure Borini has been mentioned on here before, but the people claiming to be in the know had no concrete sources, they were just pulling names out of there arses.........Macca gave us the name Borini and he was right! Leave the man/women/Mythical creature alone...One day hes going to get fed up with the crap people give him, and we will be stuck with RedTurks insane ramblings.

Jigglypoof


Listen if everyone knows then next time i will not post...

Did everyone no about Rodgers as well...

Unbelievable..

Do you realise how hard it is for me to
post!!

A very pissed off Macca...

Macca {Ed001's Note - sorry Macca, I don't know which editor posted up the whining little bitch's post! It is pathetic how ungrateful people are.}


Hey, Macca, chill out.. Most of the posters on the site are really grateful for the info you give us..

Drigan


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:40:20
borini signing announced he will wear the number 29 shirt i believe he is what we need as he knows where the back of the net is also Ed what do you think will happen with Dempsey as no one is quite sure what is happening
cheers
lfc liam {Ed002's Note - Read the posts Liam.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:39:28
Yaay, Borini finally signs! Official site.
Best of luck to the boy!

Drigan


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:38:45
if and when will the dempsey transfer be completed?

thnx


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:38:32
Welcome to fabio!! Work hard and give your all we here at LFC ask no more! Welcome to the family son

AndyLFC


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:38:24
Borini, looks like he will wear the number 29, as u can order the 'BORINI 29' shirt on the website.

BenO'


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:36:31
So Borini has signed. What a waste of 11m for a Chelsea/Swansea reject. Next season will be a disaster. Rodgers is small time


I believe hes a great young prospect who knows how to score let him have a game first before saying hes a waste of money CRAIG


He was not a reject from chelsea or swansea

Gljosh


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:35:01
eds put my mind at rest, is borni the guy from dangermouse?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:33:59
Maxi is the ultimate symbol of modern day Liverpool, contributed little yet claimed some kind of status with the fans.another reason we continue to under achieve and accept that second best is good enough.
FowlerisGod


Show some respect! Maxi scored some important goals for us and seemed to be a model professional! Good luck Maxi!

Red Lion YNWA!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:32:14
Borini has officially signed now.
:SSN :s

BenO'


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:31:18
ed002 in your opinion is it likely that carroll will go to fulham on loan or a permanent deal or is there a team in a better position to get abroad thanks {Ed002's Note - I would doubt the player or the club would want a loan deal if he were to leave. I am doubtful he will go abroad.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:30:24
Borini officially a Liverpool player good luck to him


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:28:42
Hi all does anyone know if spearing will be moved on? Cheers


Spearing was used as the poster boy for the U.S.A tour,so he must be staying. I hear he makes a great Bacon Sarnie mate.Turns slower than the Oasis of the seas,but boy can he wash cars.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:27:41
Hi all posted in earley june about joe allen being possible signing .....The press have looked at my post lol it does say that we will offer loanees the other way which i was informed about at the time ! New info today was that allen has held talks with swansea that given the opportunity his wish is to continue to work with BR ...so watch this space !
kopace


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:19:45
Evening eds fellow reds ,my question is was the standard of our football that poor last season that it needs a complete make over . I think we needed a top top striker and another winger .so why is brendon Rodgers trying to change it that much .the quality was there you just teach a different method ,but I get the impression Rodgers doesnt believe in the players there so he is buying players he worked with before,but the standard of player being looked at isn't as good as we have.cheerspsv


I don 't think he is trying to change it that much, I believe however our main issue was a scoring And that is what he. Is trying to rectify. I really do think that he will look to keep hold of as many of last years squad as possible and only let got those that want to leave. 3/4 player that he says he is looking to bring in is not massive changes and would expect most sides to be doing similar.


Chity won last year and are in for 3-5 players, so yea.. GOOD POINT!?

The Rob


If Kenny was still the manager Maxi and Kuyt would still have left.We all could see the weakness last season No replacement for Lucas and scoring goals.The players we are linked with show Rodgers his trying to rectify them.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:10:14
Eds is it likely Borini will go straight into the first team or be a squad player?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - I suspect he will be a first pick.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:22:32
From a very reliable source within Fulham. Dempsey has not travelled to Germany with Fulham today. Possible Reds Transfer?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:21:26
Liverpool have said they are happy with the signing of Borini. Spurs are also said to be interested.

Liverpool are also looking into possible building work at Anfield, coincidentally Spurs are also looking into expanding Anfield.

Finally, Liverpool are looking forward to facing West Brom away for their first game of the season. Spurs are also looking forward to facing West Brom on the 18th of August.

That is all I know ;)

Jolly Red


Spurs mite have got bored of the delay in stadium and decided to expand anfield for us


GREAT , spurs expand anfield for us : ). ok we want 160,000 seats, rail links and a 70,000 single tier kop, ohhhh and can we allso have a big screen that shows naughty movies at half time, i love them : )

martin p


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:20:22
kuyt an maxi were great back up men shame to see them go but footballers that talented shouldnt be back up it was just nice to have them as back up but does this mean the kids are going to be promoted i for one hope so but we still need to buy some first team class down the wings with maxi an kuyt gone or maybe it will be borrini LF carrol Cf and suarez RF thats a scary enough line up without changing the team to much an killing the cohesion of the team ... hope so

ibwt

adamlfc


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:19:10
Maxi has left the building!
Hasta la vista!

Taster123


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:17:12
Fabio Borini ‏@BoriniUfficiale
I have the pleasure of telling you,as of 4:45pm today I become player for Liverpool FC. Very happy :-)
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2h Fabio Borini ‏@BoriniUfficiale
Ho il piacere di raccontare, come di 16:45 oggi diventato calciatore del Liverpool FC. Happy :-)

Look at Photo's on his account, it is his real account

Will be a top player

Thanks as always

Jamie


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:14:25
Hi ed just wanted your opinion, do you think we are losing to many players but really we shoud be added a lot more {Ed002's Note - It is not possible to just keep adding players.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:13:00
if michael owen signs for Everton than he no longer should be ashamed. He joined our man utd and no linked with Everton. He is not a true red.....


He's a footballer that wants to play. Leave the lad alone.


He never was a true red he grew up supporting Everton remember.


Everton has linked with Evra...next seasons derby games are going to be fun to say the least.


He got paid well enough to show us some loyalty.


He doesnt love football like me and you ...he likes the limelight , thats why he said he will hang up his boots if he cant get a good contract in the prem !

rob fowler


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:10:46
Can everyone PLEASE type into youtube 'Alberto Aquilani - The Forgotten Man', look at the beautiful build up play he was involved in, and since he barely played any games, those clips are probably from every game he played in! I know youtube isnt the best source, but c'mon it does highlight what a good creative player he can be. A midfield or Lucas Gerrard and Aqua, Along with Suarez Borini and Ramirez/Sterling in front could be pretty special, the football we could play would be superb if they all performed. PLEASE everyone take a look! Alberto Aquilani - The Forgotten Man!

RDR


I think BR may the man to get the most out of Alberto if he stays. With that kinda passing ability he would suit BR's style perfectly, but alas I do not know if he will want to stay. Only time will tell.

Jolly Red


That's why we have clubs from all over europe bangin on our door, wishing to sign him "On loan of course!" sooner he goes the better. He's been nothing more than an overated pest.
kidmillions


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:10:44
Another predicted exit by my secret servant in the know comes true, I broke you this news yesterday afternoon before anyone even had a whisper ( check the history ). All the press today state that BR wanted Maxi to stay, rubbish.

First Kuyt now Maxi both great guys a good players, but thats 100k saved in wages for the both of them.

My secret servant informs me now that it's bye bye Bellamy next... There's a gentlemans agreement in place and that Bells is keen to rejoin the old bluebirds in the next seven days....

The wizards sleeve / Curled1


Feck me that's clever....., I'd never ever have guessed,

Crystal Balls


Your stating the obvious ones there mate tbh!!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:07:26
With maxi gone..do you see rodgers will try to sign adam johson or let suso take a role


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:06:53
Macca said there will be four players leave....I think it would be bellar,Aulario,Maxi and......Auqa....so no worry about Caroll, What do you think Ed... {Ed002's Note - And Kuyt and Amoo. Eccleston? Things change.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:04:13
Wonder how many fans would choose Borini, Dempsey and Allen over Kuyt, Maxi and Bellers? Because I know I wouldn't. Then there's carroll on his way out. Wouldn't surprise me if a 20-25m player was bought to keep the fans happy after quality players have been let go. What's your thoughts eds? Youth and potential aside! {Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not going to spend £20-£25M on a player just to keep the fans happy.}


I certainly would.

We are building for the future are we not?
With a long term vision.

Now who would help with this vision more... 3 ageing players who are nearing the end of their careers at the top level, or 2 youthful players with great potential and 1 who is incredibly hungry to play at the top level?

Not to mention that these new players will have been hand picked by Rogers to fit in his system.


I think the owners have probably realized by now that it's impossible to keep all LFC fans happy...


Forgot my name to the above reply. Please could the EDs add it?

Thankyou if possible,
P101


When i was 10 years old (i used to go in the boys pen) we bought a player who played for scotland against england , england won 9-3 and i thought the player must be rubbish , the player was ian st john , and he became and still is my favourite lfc player , shows you just how wrong you can be about players untill you see them playing for the reds only then will we know how good borini etc will be. best wishes to br and all at lfc from red mick tag.


I really liked jimmy melia when I was a kid and that St john that your on about, took his place! :)
kidmillions


 

 

13 Jul 2012 19:03:02
I was fortunate to see the game last season when Borini scored twice against Inter. I also saw him several times when he played for Swansea and he was and is a class act.
All the BR haters already need to sort their alligences out. Last season everyone moaned about Carroll, Kuyt, Maxi and the rest now they are saying oh we need them so much BR doesn't know what he is doing.
This manager took a promoted a championship team to anfield and they played us off the park with his installed football philosophy last season and then dumped us on our arses at Swansea.
Top 4 next season watch out


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:58:20
So Brendan Rodgers said this morning that he believes Maxi will stay, Afew hours later and Maxi is gone.

Is Rodgers even being kept in the loop with transfers? Does he have a say? Is he trusted by FSG?

He has already missed out on Caulker, De Jong, Sigurdsson, Powell, Martinez, Kalou etc.

Worrying times ahead at Anfield


The only player of those we had real interest in was Sigurdsson - stop moaning and back your team

Hans


Did we really go after all those players other than sig?? Don't think so. Worrying time ahead with all the fans already jumping on the pessimistic bandwagon. LFC fans never use to be like this what happened?

Mile


You youngsters better learn something. Liverpool are going back to the old ways regarding transfers in and out - highly secretive and deliberately misleading quotes. You will learn over the next couple of years that with regards players sometimes what the manager and the club says is true and sometimes it's a lie. and sometimes they won't say anything at all. The end result is no-one bar a very selct few will ever know reality until it happens. RED LENIN {Ed002's Note - Borini has hardly been highly secretive?}


Like I said, sometimes it's true, sometimes it's a lie and sometimes they won't say a word.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:55:17
edd02 just read through post is it true about carrol to fulham how much? and also if suarez goes two and also bellamy were does that leave us with only borini that would mean we would need at least another 2 strikers on top of borini a totaly new strike force who would need to gel so your thoughts pls edds also who would be are realistic striker targets getting alittle worrying cheers

mike {Ed002's Note - There is no saying that Carroll would be interested in a move to West London. As for striker, Borini, Dempsey, Morgan Ngoo, Adorjan. If Suarez leaves then no doubt someone else will come in.}


Edd the prob is if carroll goes we would be left very thin cant reali on youngsters got to bed them in and also wouldnt really say dempsey is a striker more atacking mid and whos to say borini will hit the ground running if suarez doesnt leave i belive we need a good back up or even first team like defoe and if suarez goes someone big time and in that case who do u think could replace him i no u say rameriez but again not a striker cheers

mike


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:50:15
If we sign Dempsey do you think he will be in the first 11 or will he just be used to sell shirts in America?

Irish Jr {Ed002's Note - He'll be playing. Liverpool make nothing really from shirts being sold.}


Bwahaha im sorry but that question doesn't make sense loool I feel sorry for ed 02
InMaccaWeTrust


I really wish people would quit assuming Dempsey is some sort of draw for Americans. He is not very well known here outside of a relatively small number that follow English soccer.

If he were that big an influence, don't you think Fulham would be huge in America? Answer- they are not, in fact I can say I've never seen a Fulham shirt anywhere nor met a Fulham fan. Barca, Real, Chelsea- sure. Fulham- no. Oh, and Fulham also had McBride and yet still very few supporters over here.

If the manager wants him, then it's because he's a good player at a good value that he thinks will improve the squad, it has nothing to do with him being American.


Just can't see Dempsey driving round the States in a white van flogging shirts? :)
kidmillions


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:49:44
Looks like the lads running the LFC homepage screwed up. One minute Rodgers saying he wants Maxi to stay, and then that article disappears and a new one says Maxi is gone. Seems like a public relations blunder to me! Surely Rodgers knew Maxi was going! We all knew!

Coop


He never said he was staying , he said that maxi understood the type of football he was bringing to us !
kopace


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:47:45
Does anyone else think this looks bad? The same day they publish that Rodgers wants to keep Maxi they publish that he is leaving. Is Rodgers not aware of inpending departures? Trying to make fans happy and blame departure on player?


You person rodgers said he wants to keep him but he will leave because its down to what the players wants. Another negative person on here


Instead of "blaming" the departure on the player, they are making it clear that it wasn't Brendan Rogers pushing him out of the door. Instead, it was Maxi's decision to go back to his former club.

If this wasn't done, some fans might have assumed that Rogers sold him. I doubt this was a mistake, each article would have to get the go ahead by many people...

P101


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:44:41
Ed if Dempsey signs which position do You expect him to play in our team. Thanx Red Maro {Ed002's Note - Perhaps on the left behind Borini.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:43:07
Fabio Borini - Knife Between His Teeth - Italian gesture meaning to want something so bad you are angry about it.

Clint Dempsey - The Texan referred to as the Deuce from poker "the deuces are wild."

Jakub "Kuba" Blaszczykowski - The Polish Footballer quite obviously the namesake for William "B.J." Blazkowicz from Wolfenstein 3D who was a Polish / American Soldier in WWII

I am beginning to see a trend here, right?

Coley


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:43:01
ok guys, for all those people saying borini is crap well lets put it this way, Brendan Rodgers has worked with him so he must see something good in him to be at Liverpool. I dont think none of us guys can judge until he puts on that red shirt. Some people here are so up their arses that they think they know everything in here. I'm pretty sure the eds think this aswel lol
I think people need to realise that this isn't just a simple quick fix. People need to chill out in here and just support the team when the footie kicks off. We got good players here and remember, for all the new signings we made last year, this is their first full season. I'm sure them players will put a better showing this season. If not then I'm sure brendan will ship them out. Keep up the good work EDS!

Dirty Ryder


I think it's a sign of insucurity when new managers sign players from their previous clubs. they all do it, we all like to start a new job where we know people we can rely on


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:41:59
I don't see how people can say maxi going is a bad thing.

Maxi played abit part last season at best , along with kuyt.

These two players must have been on 60k a week minimum.

If this was your business would you go along with this , I doubt it.

I think this is a good move , fringe players should be youth fighting for a starting spot. On a lot lower wages than what maxi and kuyt where on.

LAVERS


It's important to be sentimental as that get you far in football


Spot on m8 if were goin to move forward then we should get our hankies out and wave goodbye to the players who dont fit the current way of playing ...age or no technical ability


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:40:17
good luck Maxi YNWA
LeeWils


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:15:47
Lets say i am was working on a donkey farm and i did a great job, better than others thought was possible.
Then I got a job at a horse farm, would i go back and get some of my old donkeys or would i look for stallions ?
well i could look for some mules aswell because they are better than donkeys and cheaper than horses .
lets see what i do .


BUT all footballers are humans, whereas in your example they are different animals. So u cant group all swansea players together because some are good but no well known


Interesting post, in your analogy there were a lot of people thar rendered the donkey farm, interesting but probably mostly impotent, ie a fair number of asses.

trouble with joining an historic stable is that there are too many overvalued nags in the yard and you have to be careful with the hidden gems. Some need to head to pasture and others should reevaluate their true worth...

whatever the stud market can offer there's buckets of risk, sometimes it's better to take a promising gelding that works hard and has potential, along with a stager who has history but offers input and realistic return, the stallions are too expensive and end up a one in several as a true champion, all to much expectation for a series of blanks...

stick to a safe programme and keep the stable building, pay good value and respect the horses that served you well, dump the mules and the asses follow naturally...

Suffolk'n Red


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:38:47
Dear Reds, I am leaving Liverpool FC today.

Before signing for LFC, I just saw the club as one of the greatest institutions in football. After my time here I can confirm that this is not just a great club but also a great family.

I have tried to give everything every day that I was wearing the LFC crest. It has been a great honour to defend this shirt during two and a half years. I am returning home with a suitcase full of great memories, good friends within the team and also within this great family that works every day in the club. Thanks a lot for your support. You can NOT imagine what a great honour it was for me when the Kop sang, 'Maxi, Maxi Rodríguez runs down the wing for me da da da da dada...'

Hasta la vista.

Maxi

tanks Maxi and all the best maxi


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:36:26
Hi Eds. just wondering if there is any solid interest in any winger at the moment. I adk because we only have one experienced winger in downing(and hes not great) so and surely you want to be able play width now and again. For the price it is suggesting that we have paid for borini sureley we could have added on a few mil and got Ramirez ( who can play wide or in a three pronged attack) with suarez and or dempsey, where as borini seems just an out n out striker. Any feedback would be appreciated

Rd {Ed002's Note - Sterling might well provide the cover for the likes of Maxi and Bellamy.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:33:49
Hello Eds so Maxi is gone :(
with Bellamy and Carroll to follow. Then there are the definites like Adam and Spearing (even Pacheco and Downing may leave).
Definately we will need atleast one ST/Winger in addition to Borini , Dempsey , Joe Allen and a back-up LB.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:14:50
Evening eds fellow reds .looks like I ve spoken out line about boroni according to replies but my question to everyone slating me .how many Italian player are good enough for the prem ,I work with an Italian lad and he said that hes not a big name player so if you think he will be the answer that's fine .but if Carroll goes then I know who will get the better player .cheers psv


How many?

There's around 500 players in Serie A
I guess 70% are Italian, that's about 350.

Of those probably 50 or so aren't suitable for reasons other than quality and maybe another 50 or so are a bit crap.

That would leave 250 or so who are good enough for the Prem.

Travellingmike


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:32:02
All the best maxi ,YNWA Lfc linc


Thank you Maxi you've been a great servant.

You'll Never Walk Alone.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:30:41
I just don't see dempsey fitting in at Liverpool fc.....if we do end up signing him, where will he play? I wouldn't play him up front as we will have Suarez, Carroll, borini n Bellamy..... I'd play all those in front of Dempsey! What's your opinion?

Craig


Income booster for sales contract rights for American suppliers, primary reason for the target.

Ozone


Wrong on so many levels, Ozone. Income booster to who, Warrior? That makes no sense whatsoever.


Yes Warrior and the contract rights deal with suppliers to sell shirts in America, similar to the one just agreed in Asia.

Ozone


Okay.... So why would LFC sign a player to bolster Warrior's sales (which this wouldn't really do either, BTW- ask Fulham how many Dempsey shirts they've sold in the US).


Ozone is right and it makes us a more appealing club to Americans and opens up the market to potentially claw back most of his transfer fee through shirt sales as they would be more interested having one of there own in the team and gain us new fans. plus Craig there's question marks over whether Bellamy and Carroll will be at the club at the start of the season Bellamy may be off to Cardiff and Carroll who knows cheers CRAIG


Same concept as Park ji Sung at Utd, helps consolidate a favoured market. Sung served his purpose in generating Utds profile and merchandising a certain region of Asia, now they've gone to widen the market share by hitting Japan. Same principle with Dempsey.

It's win win for the Warrior brand. Let's be honest had you heard of Warrior before the kit deal? I hadn't. I asked the wife if she had the other night and she said they produced hippy type clobber. Either way Warrior, through LFC, will see a significant upsurge in economies of scale over the next few years.

Ozone


I do not know if we get money from the shirt sales.Putting that aside it would advertise us a lot more,americans would be more interested if we did have an american. Potentially giving us a larger fan base therefore we would be able to sell more merchandise in the future. Therefore getting a bigger income.

Gljosh


Are you guys American? I am and I'm telling you having Dempsey would do very little for Warrior shirt sales here. Maybe a small amount, but that's it. He's simply not very well known here really. As an example, I'm pretty sure there are more people with Dempsey 23 Fulham shirts at a home game than there are in all of America.

What will spread the gospel of LFC is continuing the relationship with LeBron James and the upcoming reality series on Fox Soccer.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:27:31
dont know how reliable there info is but theredmen are saying that while he was scouted gaston ramirez wasnt ever going to be a LFC player and still isnt.just agent talk apparentley. {Ed002's Note - Maybe they read these pages.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:26:35
The way I see it ............

If we get Dempsey and he scores 23 goals for us next season as he did for Fulham this, I'll see it as a good signing. Couple with that the potential of Borini and Suarez to score goals as well , I think we have a pretty clinical front three. We haven't had a striker that's scored 25ish goals a season since Torres. I believe these front players coupled together could provide the cutting edge we've been lacking.

We have a wealth of youngsters that are brimming with talent. If BR slowly incorporates them into the first team this coming season it will only strengthen our position.

If BR can persuade Aquilani to stay and I believe he will try to do so..... he is perfect for the passing football BR wishes to implement, he and Gerrard linked so well in some of the Europa games they played in. There was a real fluidity going forward.
If not then I hope we sign Gaston Ramirez he has bags of potential and is cheap when you think we paid 20 m for Downing and Henderson.

I think BR will prove all his doubters wrong next season with what iv seen so far. The futures bright the futures Red.

R@


Dempsey won't score 23 goals next season, 12 will be far more reasonable to expect based on his overall premiership stats.

Gaz


Still more than any of our strikers last season!
If he does sign give him a chance.

Derek


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:26:35
Maxi's open letter to the fans;

Dear Reds, I am leaving Liverpool FC today.

Before signing for LFC, I just saw the club as one of the greatest institutions in football. After my time here I can confirm that this is not just a great club but also a great family.

I have tried to give everything every day that I was wearing the LFC crest. It has been a great honour to defend this shirt during two and a half years. I am returning home with a suitcase full of great memories, good friends within the team and also within this great family that works every day in the club. Thanks a lot for your support. You can NOT imagine what a great honour it was for me when the Kop sang, 'Maxi, Maxi Rodríguez runs down the wing for me da da da da dada...'

Hasta la vista.

Maxi

#MaxiLFCLegend.


All the best Maxi lad, some great memories.

Ozone


Maxi was a decent player who ultimately disappointed at liverpool, as we thought he was a more exciting winger so he certainly isn't a legend


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:25:17
Goodluck Maxi lad and thanks for the memories also YNWA.

gee man


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:22:24
I kno its well reported liverpool are lukin to sign around 3 to 4 players dis summer but eds wit maxi n kuyt goin cud we see more signings or will cole n aqualani jus replace dem 2 ?
Basy {Ed002's Note - It can go either way.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:21:31
Hi Eds, I note you have previously stated that you expect LFC to sign a backup LB, do you have any idea who we are interested in? {Ed002's Note - There was interest in Vargas but right now I do not see it as a priority.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:18:26
What's everyone's expectations for next season then ?

A few months back when Macca said we were intrested in Muniain, Soldado E.T.C I thought we would get fourth no problems with them type or signings, even with the likes of Ramierz...

Not seen to much of Borini and i'm not going to watch a youtube video on him to judge him... As for Dempsey i always thought he was a good player, but for Fulham, not a top 4 side... I know he had 23 goals last season but i'm sure he has never got more than 10 goals in another season..

there's a long way left yet in the transfer window but if it is Borini, Dempsey and Allen, i would think we could get 5th/6th.

G BOX


G BOX mate, it be too early to be calling a prem position based on players signed. I really don't know whats gonna happen (or where we'll end up) But what's important for me is what style we'll be playing & will the players signed make it effective, & none of us will know that until we see it. But so far I'm liking what I hear.

Cheers

dd


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:20:18
Maxi Rodriguez runs down the wing for me.

Good luck and thanks.
Mighty reds


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:19:57
Ed is there any intrest in Pienaar ? {Ed049's Note - He'll re-sign for Everton.}


I'm interested to know why someone would pay £5m for him.

JRG


That's rich coming from us considering what we pay for avg midfielders.

Chuck Norris


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:19:55
Eds fellow reds . Psv again maxi gone as well now ,what is Rodgers doing maxi would be perfect for tika taka football ,could have a horrible season coming up cheers psv {Ed049's Note - Maxi wanted to leave.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:18:35
''Dear Reds, I am leaving Liverpool FC today.

Before signing for LFC, I just saw the club as one of the greatest institutions in football. After my time here I can confirm that this is not just a great club but also a great family.

I have tried to give everything every day that I was wearing the LFC crest. It has been a great honour to defend this shirt during two and a half years. I am returning home with a suitcase full of great memories, good friends within the team and also within this great family that works every day in the club. Thanks a lot for your support. You can NOT imagine what a great honour it was for me when the Kop sang, 'Maxi, Maxi Rodríguez runs down the wing for me da da da da dada...'

Hasta la vista.

Maxi''

What a great man - brilliant letter.

Good luck mate,

Burnsy


Agreed, Burnsy, and thanks for posting this. Best of luck to you, Maxi.

RDL


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:17:56
Maxi's gone....as predicted!
ANFIELDPETE


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:13:08
Goodbye, Maxi! Sad to see you go. Always remembered for your goals and unassuming good nature! Singred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:12:52
A good Summer would be Borini, Allen, Dempsey, Gaston Ramirez and a good DM,
Losing Kuuyt, Aurelio, Maxi, Pacheco, Aquilani, Cole, Spearing and Adam wouldn't hurt us much either.
ANFIELDPETE


Go and support norwich if those signings excite you


Why don't you go Support Man City!!

Coming on slagging another club off
Like Norwich. It's glory hunters like yourself who get the clubs Supporters a bad name

Lyndon


I think the original poster has a point about them being decent signings for us, Borini can score goals, Dempsey has a great work ethic oh and scores goals, whilst Ramirez is without doubt a talent. I think the 2nd poster it is you that should maybe go watch another side.


So if a supporter is happy with their club, they should go support someone else? That makes sense.


He has a point though


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:11:10
Maxi has left the building. Maxi left Liverpool today. All the best to him

Finesse - Seychelles


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:10:14
Liverpool Football Club can today confirm that Maxi Rodriguez has joined Newell's Old Boys in Argentina

News off official website

Shame,...great player

Kop71


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:09:36
Maxi is gone.
Shows how quickly news of a transfer can happen so any signings coming in could happen at any time and although we kind of knew about Maxi we could be in for a nice surprise.

Jmjs. {Ed002's Note - This has been dragging on for weeks actually.}


 

 

13 jul 2012 18:09:13
as everyone does ive been watching all the avaliable videos on youtube for the lad fabio borini,this kid is magic,ive never heard of him till we were linked with him. he as pace and skill in abundance and he can finish and he will be a star at liverpool,his work ethic is fantastic and hes strong on the ball, now if this is the exciting signing brendan was on about im a happy man,what a bargain at 10-12 million.borini and suarez with carroll in a 433 formation is gunna scare the best defences in the world. i know we havent been fantastic for a number of years now but i have a justified renewed optimisim about 2012-2013 and i think as a starting block we will finish 4th maybe 3rd. ps keep carroll he will be unstoppable this season....we dont need dempsey


I agree with you about borini and carroll, but i do think dempsey would be a decent signing aswell, as he can play on the wing or upfront and can score ALOT of goals and brings bags of prem experience!
M-H


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:08:14
Maxi has left the club and joined Old Boys

RedBen


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:06:30
Official. LFC website Maxi has left LFC. Thank you for your services Maxi and good luck for the future.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:04:22
Maxi has left for newells old boys, its on the LFC TV right now as breaking news

Dazzab09


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:03:26
maxi has left liverpool been confimed !
lfcleee


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:03:12
So its confirmed that maxi has joined newells boys, With maxi and kuyt gone and bellamy to follow, we're really startin to take shape with the deadwood being shipped out. get rid of spearing now and we are laughing. mikedubred

{Ed002's Note - Rather than thank Maxi and Kuyt for the efforts they made for the club, make sure they know that you think it is good to get rid of the "deadwood".}


What a crass post. Players who serve our club are part of the LFC family. They never walk alone.
You? Never mind walk alone, try jog on.

BigBadBen


Disgraceful post... I'm sure many other Liverpool fans on here will join me when i say, Thanks Maxi for service over the years! YNWA !

G BOX


Shocking statement to make. Kuyt gave his all to our club and was a great servant to LFC to call him dead wood is disrespectful
(irishred)


What an absolutly disgusting person you are,those players you call "deadwood" have tried there hardest for the club,you dont deserve to call your self a fan you are a disgrace to the club infact you are a disgrace as a human, i really hope there are know other fans who think the same ASHY


Omg,..did you just call those players deadwood. Spearing i can understand,...have a word. Those players have been awesome and given us fans plenty to cheer about

Kop71


I totally agree ED002. Maxi deadwood ? Get a grip will you. He is a top player who acted with great professionalism at our club. When asked to deliver, he delivered. Good luck maxi, and please ignore some of the person posts !

Tel 1949


I agree with the Ed.Deadwood is a derogatory term to call players who have made a telling contribution in their time.I don't like Spearing either,but I would not call him a name, as it's pretty childish.


So you Fulham fan still mad about his Hattrick huh?

Live-On-Pool


 

 

13 Jul 2012 18:03:06
LFC have confirmed Maxi has left

redphil


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:58:45
Hi Ed did there is any site from where i get information about players. Did u expect allen a.johnson dempsey and lb will sign for us. What u predict abt carol adam belamy downing spearing. Will they leave.
Thanx.
{Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:19:44
Ed,
what about Paolo Suarez he might be like his brother Luis Suarez in the Premier league
you never know?


Are you joking? The guy is 32 and hasn't even played for Uruguay. What makes you think he could be anything like his younger brother!?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:19:09
Hi Eds,

I'm perplexed at some of the fans reaction to this idea that we are going to sign someone exciting, and that the fans will love him. Let's just assume for the moment that BR did say that.

Now think about what Bill Shankly might have said when he signed Kevin Keegan from Scunthorpe. Did Bill think that it was exciting? and did he think that the fans would love him? Despite the fact that he wasn't a world star at the time.

Would he have been right? Was it exciting (for Bill) and did it turn out that the fans loved him? Definitely...

Sometimes I think that people need to think carefully about what's being said, especially when the person saying them is themselves an articulate person who chooses his words carefully.

An exciting signing, who the fans will love, is not necessarily a world star right now.

Brian YNWA
p.s. What's happened to Goatherder? and is his dog OK? I'm waiting for predictions.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:56:14
Ed,
Any foundation to the rumour im hearing on the street thet Alonso could be coming back? {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:50:46
we need to keep bellamy and carroll all the other big clubs have got plenty of strikers to choose from but this is were we have come up short in recent seasons. this talk of loaning carroll out to me is a big no no he was lookin good towards the end of the season and as for ac milan being linked for a loan what a joke we shud not do buisiness with them the after the aqualani fiasco totally took the p*$$ out of us give them the middle finger lol....redman matt


Signing Borini is fine but I agree we need to keep hold of other players aswell. This season even more so than last, a squad is needed. A squad with different options. I think Carroll will stay.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:47:22
rodgers knows how to talk to the media,i hope that he knows that spearing downing adam are not good enough,and need to be replaced.
and there is no need to wait another year just sell them.
he talks abt spain and barca but they have great players.
spearing and adam are just not good enough.
downing gets the ball runs towards the defender and then stops,not good enough.
we all want CL football and we have alot off good players but pls get rid off players that wont make the bench at any other top 4 team.
its very simple MR Rodgers,just like spain and barca not good enough you dont play and get sold.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:45:22
Can somebody tell me what ITK stands for? Singred {Ed002's Note - Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami or In The Know according to Google.}


Damn. I thought it was
'Iniesta To Kop'
Another target missed then...

BigBadBen


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:44:14
To me the signing of borini replaces kuyt and bellemy.

So not a bad trade , bellemy couldn't play two games in a row.
And kuyt wasn't a winger or a striker.

That goal celebration is going to rival the klinsman lol.

LAVERS


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:37:33
Its funny how you lot were saying our great captain was finished before the euros. Now youve all got the legend in your starting XI!

Just proves that most of the people on here dont know anything so just shutup and support the team instead of saying Borini is not good enough etc


Agreed, let's not forget all those who insisted his last injury was worse than we thought and that his career was over.
I'm sure I remember even one of the Eds agreeing with that nonsense...

Chris in Tamworth


I'm pretty sure even Macca said it was supposedly very serious when he first done it... might be wrong.

G BOX


If managed correctly I can see him becoming a very good holding midfielder for a good few years. Hope to see him played in the front 3 this year tho.
CQ


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:27:49
I think if Carroll does go , the money from his sale will go on one signing.

The players mentioned by macca should be bought with our budget.

LAVERS


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:25:52
Do you think we will sign Clint Dempsey? I think he is a great player and at a big club like Liverpool he would really stand out, especially if he was pared up with the great striker, Fabio Borinio.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:24:27
Hi Eds,
If we do let andy and bell to go, it will mean there's only Suarez upfront. Maybe Borini. But that's only 2 forwards that we will have...Do u think we may get another forward or maybe our young players may get a chance?

Also, we maybe busy with transfers, but do u think Agger and Skrtel will sign a new contract?

Thanks,
Samsaliva from Malaysia. {Ed002's Note - There is interest in Dempsey, plus Adorjan, Ngoo and Morgan are on the fringes plus there is 6 weeks of the transfer window open. So maybe not that bad. I don't know what the situation is regarding new contracts.}


Cool, tq vm. Hope to see younger kids upfront..well hope so...


14 Jul 2012 11:37:48
HI Ed, Thank u for ur feedback. Really appreciate it.
Just wanted to say thanks to u and Macca...the info u guys give is priceless and really keep me updated with the happenings of our beloved club. Thanks u again, from the bottom of my heart.

Macca, U may get stick from a minority group of fans, but if I may, I think the rest of fans have great respect and love for you. you are truly a legend and will always be. Thank you so much, for sacrificing ur time for keeping all fans updated.

Samsaliva from Malaysia.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:15:51
This is for John B .
I'm not having a go at BR. I am just say that we should be more ruthless in the way that we sell players. We should've got a lot more mascherano for a start.

JFT96
RED RAFA


Different owners and manager when masch was sold


I know its a different owner and manager, but you are missing my point.
RED RAFA
JFT96


I agree Red - we do seem to capitulate very easy under our last regime - but if a player forces through a move like Masch did, we have to take a hit - with that in mind we have absolutely no reason to sell any of our players on the cheap now, especially Carroll.
I will only use the RED, won't use the other 4 letters out of principal for my total contempt for the only manager I have disliked since Phil Taylor.

John B


Thank you John. The only reason why i use those last four letters is because it's my dogs name. To be honest its a great name for a dog.
RED R***
JFT96


Twits the pair of you Red Rafa & John B.

At the time Rafa Benetiz was the only person within the club that stood up to and fought against the asset stripping evil twins. Eventually the battles between Rafa and the the hated ones affected the team and results suffered, it cost him his job in the end and results were ironically used as the excuse. Rafa gave a lot for our club and least he had the balls to show it and fight for Liverpool FC and risk losing all he had worked to build at the club. Can either of you numskulls say that you ever made such a sacrifice?

Rafa deserves respect for this, I don't know why you hate him so much, methinks are your blinded by a media that spent its time looking to bring Rafa down.


Istanbul 2005


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:14:18
So Borini is ''exciting'' ? What a joke, Rodgers is a liar. We've just wasted 13m on a player that was valued at 7m 2 weeks ago by Parma and Roma. Roma paid 3.5m to Parma for his full contract.

We are yet again the laughing stock of the premier league


Man up you coward and post a name, I'm sure there are other teams out there that you can give your so called support to, god help them though, you are just a waste of space

Big red g


Fans like you might actually genuinely make us the laughing stock of the prem. What a numpty


You're a fool. No wonder you haven't signed your post.


Why have you stopped signing your posts Sumon?

Red Steve


Yet again another so called liverpool fan who is not willing to give a player a chance before hes even kicked a ball for us, your prob 1 of the "fans" who were slagging brendon rodgers of before he even sat in the managers chair, you clearly are a laughing stock by your stupid and childish remark!! ymwa!!


Sign your name. Get your head out of your a**e, and get behind the team. The only chance that other teams will think us a laughing stock, is when they read the back biting drivel that some of our 'fans' come out with.

BigBadBen


You're a laughing stock. Look how many of us are laughing at you!!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:09:36
Jay Spearing: "I'll just have to stake my claim and show the manager that he doesn't have to go and buy players in my position"

lol What does this bloke think of him, if BR can do one good thing this summer, buy some one good to replace him. Don't get decived by his local back ground, workrate or those words.
No matter how hard he tries he is not good enough, he lacks the quality. If he loves Liverpool that much than leave the club offer his palce to someone better than him.


Bosco


Harsh man harsh, people were saying the same thing about lucas, give jay some time.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:03:57
I guess the deafening silence from Anfield in respect of the ongoing speculation surrounding Andy Carroll speaks volumes! I find it all very unseemly and unbecoming of our great Club!


Or maybe because its all speculation from other places and not liverpool f.c.
huddz red


Could it be Carroll is on holiday and the manager has never met him face to face yet. Absolutely no need for anything to come out of Anfield regarding pure press specualtion.

John B


Have to say I agree with the poster, Rodgers had the chance to rubbish the Carroll blurb but didnt really commit either way, think Carroll deserves a little more respect. This is not a dig at the manager before people start jumping on us. Fully support him, just would of hoped for a bit of backing for his striker.
FowlerisGod


Ffs. Doesn't anyone get the way we are doing business these days?
We do not comment on potential transfers, in or out.
Because there are no stories, the press make them up. Or, as in the AC stories, they over analyse as to whether BR scratched his left ear during an interview, so is telling lies about transfer activity.
If we are not commenting about what we are doing, why should we comment on what the media guess we are doing?
Get a grip.

BigBadBen


All he had to say was he is not for sale... End of speculation!!
FowlerisGod


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:01:44
Nice to see Borini signing (well, not official but....). I think this season will be even tougher than last, with all top teams strengthening. In truth, we will have to play our hearts out every game for a shot at top 4. Paper doesn't count for too much, but on paper, Man C, Man U, Tottenham and Chelsea are top 4 with Arsenal able to knock on the door. Even Newcastle, if they don't lose players and sign Debuchy and another player, will be very difficult to beat. I think realistically, Brendan could get us back to top 6 or 7 this season. Hopefully on and up from there, but we need to be realistic this season.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 17:01:37
(((breaking news)))
borini has signed 2 to 3 more will follow . the surprise is that fernando torres may be on the cards for a liverpool return along with xabi aonso. my source within the club has never been wrong so take this serious guys . remember my name L.F.C RED


He's probably never been right either because he doesn't exist mate...would do anything for xabi but torres can do one.


Must have a new source then because your last one told you we have £163 million to spend and Kenny is 110% Staying...

That source must have got the boot with Kenny aye ?

G BOX


27 Apr 2012 13:57:17
hi all. what i can not get my head around is all these rumours of players that are linked to our club liverpool. if we bought in every one named we would have a squad of 100 . come on guys lets face it it's all rubbish and iv been told this from my source within the club that we have at least 163 million to spend on top players at least 5-6 players will come in 5 to leave for sure. also can we stop all of this about are club getting a new manager at the end of the day we do not need one we have king kenny is heart and soul is with are club he is staying put . the next coming season we will have a team that will challenge for the tittle. remember the name l.f.c red

moron


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:58:29
Eds Do football clubs ever advise the players to get rid of there agent? Aqua man fine talent needs his own voice {Ed002's Note - Yes, I can think of several high-profile examples. There is also a well respected advisor who has for a number of years campaigned for no players under 20 to be allowed agents.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:56:32
Just waiting for liverpool to buy............... 1 QUALITY player.............atleast 1 for godsake...

embarassing

shocked red


YOU are embarrassing...some of the so called fans here are utterly sickening


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:55:33
ed i would like to ask if you could tell us the figure that has been agreed for borini, some people say 12 mil some people say 7-8 mil.

Cheers
KingMiz {Ed002's Note - Are you including VAT, agent fees, VAT on agent fees, signing on fee, etc.?}


Ermm whichever one you can tell me would do...

KingMiz


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:55:18
Aqua's agent again stating he will not be joining AC MILAN.
does this guy ever give up must like the sound of his own voice just goes on and on and on.

told us earlier today and the other day he would not be moving.

gingerviking


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:53:15
Hey Ed.
Any truth in Xabi Alonso may return to Liverpool this summer?
I know there have been rumours since his interview last year when he hinted at a return. {Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:50:17
Just heard Liverpool to keep big Andy and Johnson also on the way from a reliable sourse in Belfast.
Ynwa,falls rd red.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:48:10
Back off the eds and macca you negative twits. Go watch a few games and tell me players like allen, borini, and dempsey wouldn't improve our squad. God forbid they like a solid player at a decent price. Hmm clint dempsey at 7m or Charlie adam at 7m? Thats a tough one! Our big money provided a lot of overhyped players last year. So why are you so mad that they are happy about a player who seems a good bargain and has good skills. I find it baffling these so called fans are enraged about players who will improve our team are being targeted. I'm so sick of idiots on this site. If you want to cry about the eds and macca having reliable information and opinions then piss off.

I live in the USA and the info here says Dempsey is close to signing. I would be thrilled. Now I'll get 10 responses saying that dempsey isnt good enough. 23 f&^^ing goals last year!


Agree mate, well said.

Also, I have to admit I'm not the biggest fan of Dempsey HOWEVER I will support any player who plays in our shirt! Hopefully with the right system and a bit of luck he'll do great with us (if we sign him that is!)

Thanks, Ell.


They may improve our squad but not enough to challenge for champions league places. it also a message out to everyone that we are willing to settle for second best


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:42:38
Hi all,

long time no post been hectic with exams! Glad we've got out first signing under our belts though! I'm liking that Macca, wonder if I can make some money again ;)

Any news on whether the Dempsey deal involves Carroll as seems to be flying round in the papers, or is that just rumours? Thanks,
CHickey. {Ed002's Note - There is interest from Liverpool in Demsey. It would be Fulham raising Carroll as an option.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:38:44
vladimir abramov (maybe spelt wrong) was the person who tweeted about liverpools interest in igor densiov...providing the twitter account was even real he mentioned a tabled bid of 14million euros. however the tweet was removed within a day. i believe speculation only....dempsey, borini to sign, carroll goin nowhere...joe allen will not happen. Coutinho deal WILL happen - please post


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:38:13
I'm so excited by borini signing. Oh wait no I'm not
The lad doesn't score goals and we need a goal scorer
I would rather promote Adam Morgan's save money for a proper goal scorer


Doesn't score goals? Do you actually know who he is or just following the flock?
Pieboy1812 {Ed009's Note - 10 goals in 20 starts for Roma and a positive goal/game ratio for Swansea is clear proof that he can't score goals...}


Yes he does score goals, he is a poacher, you know nothing you muppet


? The only thing borini does is score goals, at youth level for chelsea, on loan at swansea, playing for roma, he scored goals, he is a typical italian striker along the lines of inzaghi,del piero, di natale, cassano, miccoli, you can question many aspects of there games but one thing they all do is score goals, he is of the same breed, guaranteed.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:12:47
Ed001 if you are around how do u rate carroll as a player?

Sanjit. {Ed001's Note - he is not my type of player to be honest, he can be useful, if used correctly, he is very good at what he does, with the potential to be great. I just wish he would get in the box more and spend less time trying to link up the play! That is where we need him to be, not just to get on the end of crosses, but to occupy the defenders and create space. It is good that he works hard, chasing back etc, but I would rather he concentrated on just working the centre backs and putting them under pressure when they have the ball.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:02:15
Hey eds just a thought but have you heard anything on us to do with Jamil Adam? Young 21 year old forward. On my FM2012 i signed him on a free with league 2 Northampton. He seems a born finisher and if you give him the right opportunities he finishes them.

He got me to promotion 2 seasons running being top player scoring 24 goals then 21 goals. Really think he could do a job.

Cheers

YNWA JFT96


Quality player exactly what we need. Had him for 5 seasons on my save became an icon within 3 years though. Really hope theres something in this.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:54:43
Hi Eds & Reds,

Just wondering Eds could I get your opinion on something. Just in light of Ibra's & Thiago Silva's transfers to PSG from Milan for reported £49 million for the two them, do you think that we may have seen the last of Ronaldo esque 80 million transfer fees for players, well for a bit anyway and instead lower transfer fees and the players been offered ridiculous wages instead,Milan chairman said they would have saved 100 million euros over 2 years by selling them now.

R_R

{Ed002's Note - There is a recession and there will be less overall spending. A couple of players have been quoted at pretty astronomical figures but it will always be the exception. You may still see one or perhaps two £50M plus transfers now or in January.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:44:20
As per I remember we want to sign Borini last year but he choice to join Roma am i Right Eds. so why few people said he is not a quality player ?

r-r {Ed002's Note - That is correct - at least as far as interest was confirmed.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:33:38
i could see a situation where BR plays gerrard and lucas holding, dempsey Adv Mid, borini left, suarez right and Carroll up top.

Shushyboy


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:33:14
fabio Borini will be announced as a Liverpool player very soon!
IMO he has been signed to add some depth to the squad as we only have 2 strikers (Andy & Luis). I think he has been bought as our third striker and Andy Carroll will not be leaving!
Would you agree Ed's & Reds?

Red Lee {Ed002's Note - No.}


Ed002 with all due respect you said we might sell Suarez to Juve or whoever, and Carroll might go if there is an acceptable offer. In addition Bellamy might well go to Cradiff and we were a striker short before Kuyt went ... that would lead us woefully short heading into a new season, in particular without much in the way of a proven striker... that would be atrocious planning.

If that scenario was to come about at that point it would be fair to question the owners.

Richards {Ed002's Note - Well we know Borini is arriving, and possibly Dempsey. Sterling will likely get a chance at the part-time Bellamy role. Is there any faith in the fringe strikers Ngoo, Morgan and Adorjan? Pacheco is back right now - could he stay. There is 6 or more weeks left in the transfer window, someone else could come in - Moses perhaps. I am not so sure it is as bad as you think.}


I appreciate that but sorry I disagree... I have watched all of the youngsters mentioned and all are very good prospects. However, for next season if we went in with Borini, Dempsey and Pacheco/Moses with the youngsters as back up I'd be extremely disappointed. Sterling - I would have him with the first team no doubt
Ngoo & adorjan both need regular playing time to develop - loan if possible
Morgan - work with Borrell in reserves, possibly LC games - he suffered at times last season, and is still very young

That front line would not score enough or have enough depth to cope with the Europa lt alone a Champions League place finish... that would not be returning Liverpool to the top as JWH said....

Richards


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:32:15
Hi eds, do you think we will sign some more players in this window? And whose most likely?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, and you need to read the posts.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:30:22
Hey eds...could you confirm the news regarding Borini? has the fee been agreed? Medical? etc.

Thanks
Kindest Regards {Ed002's Note - Certainly a fee has been agreed. Everything else is in hand.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:21:42
I was the one who wrote the post about clayton on fifa. Just in case you buffoons without a sense of humour couldnt tell, i was being sarcastic. I purposely picked him because he had awful stats, and played for a bad team. Poor show.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:21:03
im just see a picture that borini wearing aurelio number 6..


Maybe it was a printing error and it was supposed to be a 9 :p

Red Raw


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:19:00
Hey Edds. My source in Spain has just informed me that Liverpool have a strong interest in Sanchez of Barcelona. I believe he would love to come to Liverpool for the history and heritage and the promise of playing under Brendan Rogers. He would fit perfectly.

GregP


Ha ha ha ha omg omg Gregp talk about deluded or what get a grip lad.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:16:58
Borini passed his medical and has signed.Deal was reported to be 7.9 million so way under what he is worth and what I was expecting we would pay for him.

LewRed


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:16:19
Not so much a rumour and perhaps a bit obvious, but do the Eds think Borini's arrival might lead to Aqualini giving it another go? I know; just because you come from the same country doesn't mean you have to best mates, but if settling in was an issue, it might prompt a reassessment. Then there's previous, stop-start dalliances with English football and the Roma connection...

Raised Eyebrow {Ed002's Note - No, entirely unrelated. He would know Joe Cole better.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:13:46
Can someone tell me why everyone wants to see Allen signed? Hes no better than our current central midfielders, so why are we after him? We need players that will come in a walk into our starting 11, not more british players with 'potential' we've got enough of those. Hes a pretty average player who can pass the ball pretty well, has abit of pace and a reasonable tackler, but never sets the pitch alight when going forward - which is what we another central midfielder to do. If im honest i'd much rather play aqua there, as I just see him as a more exciting player going forward. We need to abandone this home grown favouritism as start looking at some better quality (there is plenty out there that would be realistic for us).

Pete


Personally I think Joe Allen is class. Seen quite a lot of him last season. He's better than Adam and Spearing and Aquillani may well not be there soon. I think a midfield 3 of:

Gerrard Lucas Allen

would be class. A littl bit of everythin.


Everything apart from skill and dribbling ability!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 16:06:37
bad news. i have just found out that lewis holtby is an everton fan and says he would love to play for them.
the wise one


It is true, it says it on his wikipedia. his dad is from liverpool and supports everton aswell.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:30:05
pic.twitter.com/2be2xMuM

Fabio Borini at melwood...

Kkm


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:41:22
Ah well i admit to being one of the first to be bemused at the thought of Borini being our new exciting player but do you know what?......He already knows the way Rodgers sets up and ill know whats expected of him....Cant fault that, he should defo hit the ground running at least......Im quite liking the sound of a three with Borini with Suarez and Sterling either side.......id quite like to see that if im honest.....

The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96


Or suarez carrol borini/dempsey as a front three.
huddz red


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:32:16
Hi Ed's, long time reader first time poster.
I know people will have a go at me for saying this.
I 'm so sick and tired of seeing Liverpool pay over the odds for players and never really make any money when they sell them on.I will be very disappointed if we sell AC or loan him out, because he has never really been given a chance to shine.I know maybe he isn't in BR's plans but if we keep doing this then we are becoming a laughing stock to other fans.

RED RAFA


23 million for Torres, sold for 50, Alonso 11m, sold for 30, Mascherano 18 ( or 16 )m, sold for 22m. The list goes on - every side loses on some players - Utd and Veron, Chelsea and Shevchenko - a debate could last all day going back to Keegan, Rush, Owen - so stop trying to find negatives with your team and try and trust in the new manager.

John B


MAte do you ever relax from being the Forum chief whipp

It must be Tiring

Selby


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:21:53
Someone is posing as Macca on twitter: @maccaofficial


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:26:19
You boy's will probably think I'm crazy but I believe jordan henderson can be our version of xavi...BR likes to play possesion football and henderson's short passing is certainly usefull.

If rodgers can get the best out of henderson and he works on his end product the killer ball in his case, we could have something special and everyone's got to remember he's only 22.

Cheers
KingMiz


Also he looked a damned good player before he joined LFC but like many others, seemed to lose confidence last season.
CR


"Our version of Xavi" is a bit much. Xavi is an exceptional player and very few will get near his ability. But I think Hendo will be a good player for us ultimately.

He's better than Lucas was when he arrived and look at Lucas now. The main thing Hendo needs to do is sort out his final ball and decision making. That's what lets him down.

- Something Red -


Ha ha ha ha yes you are right i do think you are crazy and ANYBODY who agrees with you are crazy to, god allmighty lad and you wonder why other fans laugh at us and say were deluded.


Our version of xavi is stevie g, check the stats


He has shown me no evidence what so ever in any game to show he can come any where close to xavi's level what planet are you people on?


Xavi is among the top 5 midfielders of all time. Please don't kill the lads confidence by setting those kind of standards! Xavi is ageing and still dominates midfield. A few years ago, he was untouchable. I would be happy if Henderson was as good as Lucas!


"Xavi is ageing and still dominates midfield. A few years ago, he was untouchable". to the person who said this, around the world I do not believe he was as highly rated as what he is now a few years ago. Infact he has only started to win major individual honors since 2008. This was when pep took over and the tiki taka style came into full function. This suited him well therefore his strong points of the game could be utilised a lot better.
I do not believe that he is in the top 5 ever!

Gljosh


Hi i have played and watched football since the billy liddell /stubbins / days and i am scrathing my head what people see in henderson as far as im concerned hes useless,but i guess i must be wrong he played for our great england team in the euros ha ha ha haaaaaaaa.(godin)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:20:13
G'day Eds,
Do any of you have an opinion on whether Aquilani will be any good if he stays? He might fill in that creative/attacking midfield role... If he wants to be here and play under BR of course. {Ed009's Note - He suits Rodgers' system, but the question was never about his ability, as he even impressed somewhat in his few appearances before he moved on loan. The question is whether he can adapt his mentality to play in the English game, and stay injury free.}


No steel, a luxury player who will continue to flatter only to deceive.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:19:36
Borini looks like a good bit of business. Young, talented and bags of potential, boss knows the lad's abilities from time at Chelsea and Swansea so I think we should be made up. We all been saying we need a fox in the box, a poacher and he seems like just the kind of player we missed. Snip at that price, I know Roma have made a good profit but their fans are not so happy to lose him. Lets see if we can add Dempsey and then another 2 signings and maybe the numpties will be a bit less vocal on us 'missing' targets. When we have CL football again then we can compete with the elite clubs again.

YNWA


Ha,ha,ha!! A snip!!
They paid 3.5 million for him about 3-4 weeks ago!!

Your club is a laughing stock, surely you can't top last years signings!!

Tree Blue {Ed009's Note - If Liverpool really were a laughing stock, I doubt you'd waste your time on their rumours site. Perhaps you should consider taking up an activity like knitting which would be more beneficial.}


Roma bought 50% of Borini a few weeks ago for 5m or so, valuing him at 10m - which we have just bought him for. If that's not a snip then I don't know what is - add in his outstanding scoring record at Chelsea and Swansea and 9 goals in 20 Serie A starts last season then I think Tree Blue has wandered in here out of jealousy more than anything else.

Martin


Ah god when you see these idiots like that "person"who said your club bla bla it makes me smile anytime we make a signing or anything like that they get scared and take shots.what does that tell ya although we havent won the league in twenty years our legacy makes rival fans sick or maybe its the fact that liverpool OWN A CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CUP will even fergie ever get utd there although a brill manager he never will we are the most declarated club in all of britian haha and goodnight


Tree blue have you been smoking tree's...do you not understand the simple fact that they bought the other 50% of him and then after that their not going to sell him for 7 mil are they...you would be the worst businessman/tw@ ever.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:22:47
all this talk about the "exciting player" looks like its borini, me as a fan is disspointed to hear it looks to be him, i have seen borini play for swansea and roma and was not entirely impreesed but open to give him a shot, but what position is he going to play? within the possible 4-3-3 , if these rumours of the swap deal was true, which striker would be the more likely to join us? thanks alot


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:18:29
I just heard from my brothers, teachers, girlfriends, dads, dog walkers, pizza delivery guy, cousin, aunties, gardeners, sisters, boyfriends, youngest brothers running partner whos friend is the grounds keeper at melwood that Liverpool are negotiating with Fiorentina over the transfer of Jovetic. He is willing to come but Fiorentina want 25 mill and were only prepared to offer 20 mill.

Geoff


Why didnt u just cut the sarcastic crap and say wat u really wanted 2 say


Geoff i know that guy hes abit of a liar so wouldnt trust him to much he said he as going to mow my lawn and i live in a block of flats


Agreed its been done to bits on here buddy was funny the first time then not half as funny the second time and your maybe the 8th so........


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:18:48
If we sell carrol we need to look at a winger possibly Munian as we are been left behind. Ramirez would also be a brilliant signing.


Yes, then we would have a winger but no target man.


Funk that lads just leave it up to rodgers and if he funks up you can say i told ya so over and over he wants to work with our current squad and im happy about that he will make our players better and educate them in a system outside the long ball hoofer style.about time


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:15:33
Riena
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas Aquaman
Gerrard
Suarez Dempsey
Carroll/Borini

Doni. Kelly. Coates. Hendo. Adam. Sterling. Borini/Carroll {Ed005's Note -


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:11:28
People need to take their blinkers off about AC. He's done naff all for us in 2seasons. 11 goals in all comps....Even if he hits Newcastle form he's nothing special. Im glad to see BR is adressing our attacking problem , signing a young goal poacher is a great start , i'll be happy to see carroll go and replaced even if its Dempsey. Borini, Suarez and Dempsey as a front 3 will all link well and cause enough problems to any defence without humping the ball into a big donkey hoping he controls it.


So a front three with no back up striker yes I think that will work


Well you'd have Downing, Cole and another signing as "attackers" and Suarez, Borini and Dempsey can all play as the central striker.

Let's face it - a fool could see Carroll and Suarez was not a partnership. I watched them closely from up high at Wembley in the Mersey semi and it almost seemed as if they didn't like each other. No link-up at all. If you have to keep one who would you choose ? I don't like to slag our players but if BR has the balls to sell Carroll with all the writing off of cash involved then he's proving he's prepared to take tough decisions. Then again it could all be rubbish and he's trying to fire AC up ??

PieInTheSkyMan


 

 

13 Jul 2012 15:03:11
Question for the Eds, Macca or anyone else ITK- I seem to remember when LFC bought Carroll, the fee was £30m rising to £35m depending on a certain criteria. This was, I believe similar to the Henderson deal, £16m rising to £20m. Can you confirm if this was the case and if so, what are the triggers for the fee add ons?
Victor {Ed002's Note - No, it was not the case.}


OP -

If I told you that he cost £35m PLUS clauses that mean we could end up paying more.....

Would that alarm you?

BJH YNWA


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:59:11
Some posters are funny on here. Copying everything Macca says and claiming it as their own knowledge. You're not ITK and neither am I, get over it.

KingHeskey


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:55:30
EDS - do you see scott sinclair on the move to liverpool if he fails to agree contract now would be the best window to sell.

Persoanlly i feel he is the reason were not looking to recruit young wingers at the moment, i could be very wrong.
just seems a good either cheap option for now or free option next season.

gingerviking
{Ed002's Note - It is an interesting thought isn't it.}


I live in swansea and went to the liberty a few times last season . sinclair is simply not good enough and BR knows it.


Raheem sterling is a similar player in style who I believe will be better... so why block his way to the first team?

Richards


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:51:11
liverpool no longer interested in signing john Terry after he was found not guilty at court.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:50:53
is it too late for Suarez to go to court ed? {Ed002's Note - If he does something wrong I am sure it can be arranged.}


You're on form today, Ed002! Cracked me up and brightened up yet another wet and dreary day in Liverpool.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:49:32
All these names popping up, I think our best bit of business needs to be keeping hold of Suarez as we are not in a position to replace him with someone of the same quality.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:46:03
Guessing you missed the back end of last season where Carroll showed real signs of improvement and signs he was getting back to his Newcastle form?

LfcWes605


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:45:19
i believe that allen dempsey and borini are 3 of the 4 players we are seeking , the 4th player is surely a pacy winger , walcott or johnson perhaps ? also does anyone know what date the first game of pre season is on ? cheers

Mr. Deeds


Surely, if Macca is right about 4 in 4 out, one of them has to be another LB.


Its listed on the fixtures page on the official liverpool site.21st july against toronto the 25th july against roma and 28th july against tottenham


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:31:03
can someone please for the love of god explain to me why anyone would want to keep carroll? is it his beautiful misplaced passes, his inability to win anything in the air, or his pace that makes even scott parker look fast? if we can get 10-15 million we should take it and run. he may be young but he has nothing to offer us and no signs of improvement. sell him and fund the transfer of ramirez. he does not fit into a passing team and thats what rodgers want. he needs to be on a mediocre team that takes the ball to the corner, whips crosses in and prays it somehow finds him, like manu.


I totally agree, we`ve had carroll best part of 2yr now and he`s returned 6 league goals. Just not good enough.


Rivalries aside, you cannot seriously justify that man united are a "mediocre team that takes the ball to the corner, whips crosses in and prays it somehow finds [their player]".

You strike me as one of those fans who sees a player do a step over and then assumes he is worth £40m.


What puts u in a position to say if carroll will fit into a passing team? every team he plays in he gets the ball played to him in the air all game! he at the very least needs a chance, we need a player to play the width of the box with two creative players either side of them, carroll can play that role and well, who do u suggest we replace him with for the 10-15m u mentioned?


I wish Stewart Downing could do a stepover....

BJH YNWA


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:26:47
Fabio Borini has passed his medical today at Melwood and will officially a Liverpool player later after he puts pen to paper. Announcement from the club imminent.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:25:36
Hi Eds, reading a few posts about a swap+ cash deal involving carroll one of the newcastle strikers. Is this likely or have people been paying too much attention to Tw*tter? Great work {Ed002's Note - I suspect it might be one way to get some value. He might not be interested in such a deal and the same may be said of Liverpool.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:16:36
Just a thought eds rogers has been saying that carroll might not fit in too his plans but aren't Danny graham and carroll very similar players?... just Carroll is much better! So could it possibly be just paper talk about him going or is there a genuine interest in him? Surely FSG won't let him go for penny's or on loan?
Great site by the way
Cansmack


Where do people get this idea that Carroll is much better than this player or that player? The only difference is that Andy plays for Liverpool and Graham plays for Swansea, no disrespect intended. Graham, for me, is a better player. Offer's more to the team, gets involved and worked well in Brendan's team. AC is too static.


Completely different players! Graham likes the ball at his feet, Carroll doesn't.


Carroll's told u he doesnt like the ball to feet? hes a good footballer with power and strengh and can finish half decent deliverys, he is good with the ball at his feet and given the chance he will get much better


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:14:31
Dear Ed does Andy Carroll prefer red sauce, brown sauce or no sauce at all on his sausage sandwich? I am sure if you know all of his other preferences you will know this one.


As a geordie I can bet its Gravy.....
Dragon3383


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:10:40
Have i missed something?
Carroll is still on his holidays and everyone is talking like he's already gone - in transfer terms??

I would assume that BR would wait until Carroll returned so he could get a good look at him in training before making a decision. Why would BR sell our 35 million pound striker (or loan him) before seeing for himself if he can play as part of the new system? It doesn't make financial or tactical sense.

Milan, West Ham, Fulham? Seriously?
Losing 15 - 25 million pounds in a year on 1 player because he's on holidays and he may not fit the system when he returns? BR has a lot more sense than that.
If BR plans to play (assuming again) 3 players up front, who will play up there with Suarez and Borini? Bellars may go and even if he stays, he does not have a full season in his knees. Downing hasn't scored a goal since 1915 and Kuyt is gone.

I hope the big man stays with us for some time yet and shows us all the reason why we brought him to our great club. If he is transferred elsewhere and melts the net 15 - 20 times for his new team, there will be nothing else to do than just laugh.

Tika taka football is not just for little blokes!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:09:36
Hope we sign Joe Allen. He's Like the welsh iniesta. Offload adam and aqua and were set in the middle of the park imo

Danthebeast


I always drop this stat in when Allen is mentioned. In Jan he had a higher passing accuracy than Xavi and Iniesta. Snap him up asap I say.
Davey Liver {Ed009's Note - I'm not so sure that Rodgers will be willing to break his agreement against signing Swansea players.}


Many people keep saying that but and not being smart here but what happened after january did he fall off or what??would love to know.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:01:23
Get Torres back! A rotation of Suarez, Borini, Dempsey and Torres in the attacking front three would be lethal! Yes yes yes i know he left but he knows deep down his best and brightest days were in a red shirt and if the club wanted him i think he might want to come back to the Kop!


I have said this since about a month after he left it doesnt suit a player like torres being one of many no way he belongs in a team and dont forget he signed a new deal while wanting out he was convinced to stay then before he was sold he signed a new deal and got us 50mill plus all the goals that was the best bit of biz done in years at our club.not to mention the way liverpool played saw the chap get hurt alot.it will never happen but i would love to see him back hes an animal.him and suarez would be the best partnership in front of goal not in england in the world.redness


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:01:18
I thought he might like this song sang;"Oh Carroll, no one has done it before. You shoot and you score! Oh baby can you do it some more!"
An old song called "Oh Carroll" from Smookie

If he stays that is, i would be very dissapoited if he dident.

The Rob.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 14:00:10
So Parma and Roma agreed a few weeks ago that Borini was worth 7m, Roma paid Parma 3.5m for his full contract and now we are paying Roma 13m for him? Our club is a joke

Wasted over 100m last season on Carroll, Adam, Downing, Coates and Henderson and we're gonna do the same this summer. We are a laughing stock.

Adebayor to spurs 5m
Kagawa to united 12m
Marin to chelsea 6m
Podolski to arsenal 6m

What is happening to our club?


Yeah but what wages r them players on and we dont have cl to offer


They all had very little on their contract and are on huge wages... shut up...


If we dint sign any player what would you have said? 'our club is a joke' ur the joke!


It's £7 or £8 million you fool, hate fans like you


Well Roma have to make a profit don't thay, or should they then sell him for 5m, idiot.


If dalglish want to buy borini, i believe u will say he is a world class player.

LOL


The guy is an idiot.

Clear off, we don't need fans like you.

MJ


What is happening at our club?

I'll tell you this....

If you gave me a choice of Podolski, Adebayor or Borini - I'd take Borini.

Adebayor makes an effort only when he feels like it. (Usually when trying to win a money-spinning move - and losing Modric could prove a MASSIVE loss for Spurs. If things don't go well, lets see how Adebayor does then.)

Podolski is very over-rated imo. He is largely unproven at club level and has always been inconsistent - he is certainly not going to compensate
for them losing RVP, he's far from prolific.

They've regressed in terms of strikers imo. I feel we can be a lot closer to Arsenal next year.

Marin seems a shrewd signing for such a low fee, but is still a gamble - Kagawa may be a success too. They may also flop.

Who really knows? Kagawa is no Veron - that's for sure - Veron was a phenomenal midfielder in his day (at Lazio he was sublime) - who just didn't fit at Utd.

I haven't seen much of Marin, but heard from friends who have seen more of him that he is pretty raw tactically - a ball hogger - I am also aware that he scored ONE goal last year in the Bundesliga (also only 5 assists) and is seen there as having had a poor season - (as his stats suggest).

Is this the creative tour de force you imagine in your mind?

ONE goal. If we were after a player with a stat like that who is not as hyped-up in video games, he'd be slaughtered on this site.

Not saying he's bad, or doesn't have some potential - but how much do you really know about him?

United and Chelsea can both afford bigger wages - anyway - we simply didn't compete for these players - to my knowledge they were never even targets. So why complain?

Based on your little hit-list though - I'd trust Rodgers' judgement over yours any day.

BJH YNWA


You're completly missing the wages factor you thickie!


I give up with some poople!

You have just plucked figures from thin air, it should be £7-8 million, not £13 million.

How do you know the fees for Kagawa and Podolski since they are undisclosed? Did you broker those deals, anyway I believe they were estimated to be higher anyway with add ons.

And Adebayor has huge wages and is frankly pants after he gets his contracts, he only plays for wages, once signed on he pulls up a lounger and puts his feet up.

Marin, who knows, supposed to be the next big thing but it never really panned out as planned, why would they let him go otherwise, and Podolski has not had the best club record for a while.

So £8 million for a young striker, who knows how BR works, so will require little integrating into a new system, who scored 9 in 24 in Italy with a defence league, was called up to the National Squad. Granted he may not settle, but give the kid a chance!

Last year we struggled as we were integrating a lot of new players but we had a lot of chances on goal and were unlucky a lot too. This year more new players but more importantly a new system which could take time for some players to adapt. Would you rather we never tried to change a bad philosphy that has crept in over the years?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:57:30
just heard from my paper boy whos brothers girlfriends cousin who cleans the bins at melwood that he seen fernando torres leaving the building with BR possible move? watch this space !

i dont know what to believe but he is apparently a real reliable guy so it must be true . . . . fernando torres liverpool number 9 ....

love the site

Mitch


So so so excited by this news. Thanks for the info.
GingerDave


This is a brilliant signing just need lahm, alonso, RVP, and johnson and we are sorted

were going to win the league were going to win the league . . . . and the champions league

potts and pans


Bwwwwah laughing me nipples off. looks like this nugget mitch likes to makes several comments to back up his comments.


What a person this kid mitch is spouting nonsense and who is pots and pans he is an person too and as for ginger dave well what can i say he is ginger


Have the last one or two posters heard of a concept its relatively old called a sense of humor may not have caught on yet in your part of the world but don't worry it will reach you one day CRAIG


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:52:47
so Brendan Rodgers thinks that Fabio Borini is ''exciting'' WOW, We are really in for a treat this season if thats what we have to look forward too.

Sort it out Brendan or get out. Luke


Borini hasnt even kicked a ball mate! Sort yourself out.

JD


Oh dear Luke... Me thinks your about 12 years old and that you haven't got a CLUE about football... Please, PLEASE show me the direct quote from Brendan Rodgers, IN WRITING, where he said the words "Exciting player" I'll bet you ya can't... you clown.

Stevie.


Its fans like you that i hate... we havent signed anyone or played anyone and your already giving the manager stick


How about you get out luke, no one wants you at the club


Luke mate, you are most welcome to leave.

Corvin


Stevie, this is what I was trying to say the other day when you had a go, what ever BR meant the press picked up on this "exciting player" comment and have not let it go, it's all over the web, just look at this site. I think this young lad is a good signing but Br and the player could be in for it off the press this season, and unfortunately some of the fans if things don't work out.
Ed002 was right BR probably regrets saying it, I believe he meant will excite us myself, it's just come out wrong.
I'm happy with the player myself, let's move on from that bloody press conference, which has got everyone worked up.
RNred


Luke.....oh...luke.......the man has et to manage a game.


Well done Luke ... you've made yourself very unpopular.


Luke, why do you support Liverpool?

Let me rephrase that. Why do you support football? If you are only interested in "big" names than you are no different oa fan of One Direction standing outside their house with a giant banner screaming "Harry, we love you!" There's other players besides household names and flavour of the month type players, we're building a squad for the future, come along for the ride or don't bother


FAO RNred... "Ed002 was right BR probably regrets saying it" ...That's a fair enough comment mate, but I have trawled through the press conference footage several times and as yet, I have found NO reference to Brendan Rodgers saying the words: "Exciting Player" Borini IS an EXCELLENT signing, and I believE your heart is in the right place buddy, your passionate about Liverpool, just like me and thousands of others, and it wouldn't be the first time I have posted on here without consulting the "10 Minute Rule" ...and I have ended up going on a major rant, which hasn't always come across as I've meant it too... :-D LOL Press conference aside, I believe our football over the next few seasons is gonna be exciting to watch. We're all behind you gaffer... Oh, Luke... "I AM YOUR FATHER"

Stevie.


Would be happy to have one less whiner on my opinion.

GWRed


I would like to make a point is that the same luke that has angered people over and over with his idiocy i believe someone wanted everyone to line up and taking turns to beat him at one stage.luke man please grip a get buddy grip a get.....


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:52:41
Please. I beg all those who base their opinion on unrealistic football video games to cut their crap.


You're right but just want to mention it to the video gamers that Borini goes upto 85 on Fifa 12 and so does Carroll... We need to keep both of them...lol

Red PG


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:52:37
Just wondering because I've never really seen him play, is borini more of a creator or poacher type of foward? And also do you think carroll will be sold? Cheers, Great site!

LKTIMLK


More of a poacher type by what ive seen of hime in a few games for roma


He is definately a poacher, perhaps not the quickest but very good movement and positional play. After last years failure to convert the host of chances we created in virtually every game he could be just what we need.


A poacher, but one of the eds did a profile on him u should have a look. ri red


Poacher it seems.
Just what we were crying out for last season.
Now the "fans" are crying we are buying him.

MIKEY


Poacher mate, similar to how Kuyt played at his previous club before we shoved him on the right. We really need a poacher with his tenacity and potential. Ignore the rest of these shiny bell-ends complaining. They are clueless.
Davey Liver


Borini has been lauded for his work ethic and technique , one of 4 strikers in the Italy squad he is young , precocious and I think will play as an inside forward , similar to Dirk Kuyt's position under Benitez .

EdWood


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:49:26
Eds, surely it wouldn't hurt to offer Carroll in exchange for Pato? I think they just might do it as they've been trying to offload Pato for ages now. His wages aren't that astronomical. {Ed002's Note - Well if Carroll wants to move to Italy and Pato to Liverpool and values can be agreed, why not?}


Pato is one of the most over-rated players in world football!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:48:03
Look at all those brainless and dreamers posting here. What's so bad about Borini? You guys never gave him a chance, bear in mind that he hasn't officially signed for us. And you guys demmand for players
like Cavani? Don't be influenced by the video games. Just so that a person has 'better ratings' ,better known means that he suits OUR style of play. Why can we make players from lesser known to well known? Cavani was from some club from south america, and Napoli gave him the chance, now look at him. So i suggest everyone to cut these nonsense and support our club like TRUE fans/supporters. If not, go support those clubs that fufil your fantasy team. And for those who whine at spuds signing 'better' players, well did we need Vetonghen? And many people didn't want Sigurdsson, but after he signed for spuds everyone felt butthurt. Thats why i feel that the negativity we have right now its due to those IGNORANT supporters who think they can be a better manager/ TACTICIAN than Rodgers.
Last thing, if you sign off with YNWA, it means that YOU are always behind LFC supporting it no matter what.


Think about it like this. Cavani came from the third or fourth best club team in Uruguay and is now a goal scoring machine, in real life not just computer games. He is 23 I think or 24 . Borini is 21 played in England and Italy already and still isn't close to cavani . I want Fabiola to sign but you gotta realise that it's not just about giving chances. It's about spending money on people that can do a job! P.s cavani went to Palermo from danubio in Uruguay .


You will find it was Palermo who gave Cavani a chance first.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:47:44
Hi Ed's. Any idea what Andy Carroll's preference is? Is it to stay, or to return to Newcastle, or maybe even go to AC Milan? {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:47:15
Expect AC Milan to come up with an offer for Carroll in the coming days. Most likely a loan move with an option to buy at the end of the season (20-25M).

But my understanding is LFC would prefer selling him rather than loaning him out to any team.

Also no developments on Ramirez, Bologna's asking fee seemed to be sky high when compared to what LFC are willing to pay.

I also suspect the likes of Downing and Adam could move on (could be used in player swap or cash + player deals) with the usual suspects Cole, Aquilani, Maxi and unfortunately Bellers to leave. Adding to that some youngplayers who can't make the grade, Danny Wilson, Gulacis, hopefully Jay Spearing.

I expect 4 new signings this summer, and the likes of Sterling, Suso, Shelvey to get more than few chances in the first team.

Armando


Where are the players who are Spanish or play in Spain?
It sounds like you're just repeating what Macca said, with your own twist....
JamieMK9


I expect Milan to move for Destro tbh. Where possible - they will buy Italian - It is just the way it is. Forza Italia and all that .... you know.

BJH YNWA (Trust me - I know how they think.......) {Ed002's Note - Siena seem to be happy to sell their half of Destro and bids from PSG and Inter have been turned down. A move to Roma seems very likely.}


Cheers ed.

I've read that lots of places too. Roma have been very vocal about it. To be clear - I've heard nothing solid on Destro to Milan at all - don't get me wrong! I have no 'inside knowledge' Just call it a hunch!

This is like the time I told you that Aqua would go to Milan last season. I had no info on it - but I knew that Juve would never sign him - and that AC (particularly Silvio) just can't help themselves. I've been watching this game for a while now... some things just are the way they are....

If you're a betting man - I reckon it's worth a shot. Particularly, as you say - most expect him to go to Roma - the odds could be nice.

Milan though.... they love nationalism (well, Silvio does anyway) - and you just can't stop Silvio when he wants an Italian. You just can't take the politician in him away!

BJH YNWA (no info - just years of watching Milan's crazy Silvio in transfer season.......)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:42:54
Hope Borini announced today. He will have my support. He has good positional sense, and doesn't come with unreal expectations, so has chance to really play his game. All attention will be on Suarez so I think this kid might just do well. Hopefully Aquilani will stay on too, and give him an Italian buddy.


A great point. He could really thrive alongside the like of Suarez.

Who knows - by the end of the season - defences might be so busy watching Borini that Suarez may benefit!

BJH YNWA (I still pinch myself at times that Suarez plays for us.. thanks for that Kenny! A mighty gift.)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:41:48
Brendan Rodgerds wants Maxi to Stay.

I would be very happy with this as I feel he was significantly under utilised last season, particularly in light of his form the season before.

His pass and move football and connection with suarez should form a smashing partnership.

JTR


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:41:01
Rumours building that Andy on his way to Fulham with Dempsey going the other way (presumably with some cash).

Coop


Which route is Dempsey taking? M1 - M6 by car or on the train? Perhaps we can meet him and see how much cash he has!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:40:04
Do you think Carroll will be going??

Great work on the site an thanks for all your honest opinions eds

OxRED {Ed002's Note - If an acceptable deal can be put in place for the player and the club, then yes.}


If I was Andy I say " Cheers for all your support Bredan" then sod off back to Newcastle and score a bucket load of goals ,while we Liverpool supports look on thinking what could have been,whilst watching our 29 year old having a Robbie Kean moment,,,madness just madness


Any idea what an acceptable amount is to Henry for AC? I mean we will lose around 10-15m on Aquilani which is a piss take to be honest but to lose 20-25 on Carroll is beyond a joke.
Scouse_Pride


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:38:14
haha liverpool football club is a joke, why would you pay 11-12 million for a player who roma paid 3.5 million pounds for only a few weeks ago! haha your club is the worst run business i can think off! somebody else saying that you would get 15 million plus dempsy for carroll, get real that basically like paying 25 million for carroll coz dempsy is worth 10 million and lets be honest, carroll aint worth 25 million, he is barely worth 10 mill, your not gonna find another club stupid enough to pay 35 million for a donkey! oh well hope you's have a good season.... in 11th! :) COYB!!


If this is true, no wonder other clubs are laughing at us


3.5m? Clearly you lack any knowledge. One of those smaller club supporters these days..
AnfieldUSA


Yawn is an anagram of YNWA.

Sod Off !

Mr Slonk The Red

YNWA


Roma paid 7m. Borini cost 10m. 3m profit for Roma.


@COYB, maybe because Roma owned 50% and they needed to own him in full before they could sale him.

Dave


Don't take the bait boys. He is just angry that they have to buy a player back who left and is now reluctantly accepting EFC is the highest level he can aim for.


More ill informed mancs on here? They didn't pay 3.5mil for him a few weeks ago, they paid 1.25mil just to loan him in August, they then paid a further 2.3mil to Parma for co-ownership in January. And then paid 5.3mil to buy him outright in June. Why are these idiots allowed interaction with other human beings? I thought they were kept locked in a padded cell with white walls and kept under 24hr supervision?


The 3.5 was to buy the other half that parma or somone else owned. ri red


Singred {Ed002's Note - I think you will find the post was from an Everton supporter.}


I dont know why people get worked up over clear morons comments, this guy is one of those wonna be manc fans like people that have never been to manchester never mind old trafford, i think he should save his awsome knowledge for the pub with the other wasters


Let me get this right, you signed Pienaar for £2m, he left on a free contract, and you're now buying him back for £5m and you're laughing at us!

People in glass houses and all that.

JRG {Ed009's Note - I like this post.}


Why does an Everton fan bother to post, let alone visit a LFC page?

GWRed


Funny how worked up you guys get! i am the original poster! and i am not a manc or an everton fan! i am actually a dedicated blackpool fan lads i just said coyb because i love that you all think your a huge club and can attract all the amazing players but lets be honest you beat everton twice in the league last year and they still finished above you! i dont hate liverpool i just think unfortunately you are being badly run by americans who will ruin your club! would hate to see liverpool do a rangers! and dont your too big of a club to do that because your not! but i think with a better owner that cares about the club and stops spending money that you's dont have then you will get back on track, you all need to look at everton and the way they are run! they dont spend any money that they dont have, so they dont get into loads of debt and the club is actually one of the most financially sound clubs in the league! but i dont want to leave on a sour note with you guys so am just gonna say good luck for next season and i hope you have a better season than last time! :) YNWA

blackpooltom {Ed001's Note - you really are making a fool of yourself. Everton are massively in debt and our American owners saved us from going the way of Rangers!}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:32:35
Some LFC "fans" are embarrassing to say the least! When LFC were linked with Jelavic, it showed "how far we'd fallen" and that the owners "don't have what it takes" to lure big names to LFC because he was cheap and came from Rangers! He then starts scoring for Everton and now those same "fans" are crying because we "missed out" on a "shrewd" bit of business!

It's gonna be the exact same situation with Borini! He's too cheap, we've got no ambition, he's not Cavani, blah, blah, blah!

I hope the kid scores bucket loads in spite of the terrible support this club now offers it's players!

LFC_SA


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:26:52
Liverpool's new Number 10 : Fabio Borini deal will be completed by the end of the day.

Does the fact that both Roma and Liverpool are owned by people who are or used to be part of FSG help the deal ? {Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:26:16
There is a rumour doing the rounds that FSG are looking to sell Liverpool.

"Isn't that what asset strippers do? A profit-making business sells for much more than a loss-making one. Not that they're asset strippers but that was Hicks' plan all along."

"I heard that because of the state of the Sox they're looking to Liverpool but that could just as easily suggest because of the state of the Sox the fans there are questioning why they're messing about with a football team thousands of miles away. Sox fans expressed concern as soon as NESV bought LFC that it would divert funding and distract their attention. It seems there's a correlation to be made there, whether it's valid or not."


If they where asset strippers why haven't they sold the red sox, they would make a s**t ton of money off that. ri red


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:26:15
First post this year. 1st would be thank the RDs for their efforts, I am sure it is appreciated by everyone who comes on here. 2nd I have to say that I am made up with the imminent signing of Borini.

I haven't seen him play but to get a return of 6 goals in 12 games for Swansea is good and to make the Italy squad for the Euros is no mean feat bearing mind where they finished!

So please let's get behind him and I reckon we will have a right gem on our hands!

D b Dako


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:25:13
If Milan offered 15 million plus El Shaarawy for Andy Carroll, would you accept it?


El shaarawy has the potential to reach Ronaldo's level. Hell yeah!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:21:57
I had a Borini once. I left it outside in the rain and it went rusty. Typical Italian.
So I sold it.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:18:57
Some people on this site are so pathetic, why criticise Borini? I've read numerous comments about him being a Chelsea reject, which is incredibly stupid, he was the stand out performer in their reserves, and Ancelotti had ear marked him for the first team, however the signing of Torres halted his progression and the chance of 1st team football, so when Chelsea couldn't offer him it he left, after rejecting a new contract their. Some also say he could barely get a game for Swansea, are you for real? He was a key player in the final stages of the season, scoring some vital goals in the battle for promotion. Then at Roma, after the injury of Osvaldo, Borini became a regular, and out shone the likes of Lamela and Bojan in their first season at the club and started to really settle in and score regularly. He then got a call up to the Italian squad for the Euro's after a very impressive end to the season. Give the boy a chance, I'm willing to bet he will prove a lot of you critics (who I bet haven't even seen him play, but isn't a big name like Cavani) wrong. Welcome Fabio, I for one will support you lad.
JFT96
Smithy


Don't let people ignorance get in the way of facts Smithy.

JRG


Agreed. Too many ignorant fans.


Very well put smithy lad....

RED4lifeNOTjust4XMAS


Wel said smithy lets give the lad a chance and when he starts scoring goals watch the narrow minded people turn round and say it was a great buy for the money we paid. its funny the people that give out are probably propping up the bar get real and support our team loyal irish red here


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:13:32
It seems like strikers who leave LFC becomes crap at their new club.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:13:32
I don't know why people complain about BR wanting to sell Andy. even if he is a good player, which he isn't good enough, he doesn't fit into our new system. he is really uncomfortable with possessing the ball in his feet for more than 2 touches.
He may turn out to be a good player else where but as long as a £35 mil price tag is on his head and as long as he is not in the starting 11 regularly, he won't come good.
I think the worst mistake Kenny did was spending £35 mil on him. and this is for many reasons.
1. just not worth £35 mil. we blew our only chance to spend £35 mil on a single player just like that. that also scared the owners from spending that big again.
2. if he was bought for £10 mil we could have got the best out of him
3. or our transfer policy after that revolved around him we tried to make him work so much that we decided to get rid of Miereles for £10 mil and bought henderson for £20. we got rid of Aquillani and bought Adam for £8mil. we bought Downing for £20 mil instead of the many other available goal scoring and more creative wingers in the market

miccmak


And you obviously know our " NEW " system of playing. There is only one Andy Carroll in the PL, ask John Terry, in fact ask anyone who has played, or is still playing what's the worst type of CF to play against - the Andy Carroll. If system "A" isn't working it may be a good idea to have something else to fall back on - and how do you know that system "A" doesn't include Carroll, have you had tea with BR recently to discuss his tactics with him.

John B


Andy carroll can adapt to any system we will implement, he is a good proffessional that will become a fantastic player, hes a young lad with alot of potential, he just needs the confidence which will no doubt be in tatters now, giv him a chance, i just hope br does


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:12:44
I like how they initially rejected our approach but in the end came to us.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:07:47
Pato is a player we need to take a chance on, i can't see AC Milan being to attached due to his injuries etc but Pato is the best player we can get that if he stays fit, could get on the similar level as the Aguero's and Suarez's.

He would be open to the move as i think the injuries at Milan is also making him think of a change plus Milan wants Carroll. Swap plus 10m euros might do it or a loan swap they get Carroll for a season and we get Pato for a season.

ins
Dempsey - is likely to move and Fulham has his replacement
Borini - deal apparently agreed
Granero - would love Allen but i don't think we will get him for some reason
Pato - is more a BR type player


Thers a reason milan want carroll, they are a fantastic footballing team and they see the potential he has to play a similer level to ibrahimovic, but he'll do it with a selfless and modest attitude


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:07:14
Isn't defoe worth a punt? apparently he is available for around 6 mill. He is English and a natural finisher with premiership experience.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 13:00:02
The attitude of some of the cretins on this page borders on the insanity! Since it's so hard supporting this club, then don't! Singred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:57:55
Sorry don,t mean to be negative, but what has me worried is that althought I am hoping BR is a good manager and will do well for us, I can,t help feeling why is it that he can not see past his old swansea players.

Simoky


Because nobody else will sign for him, but even his former players sigurdsson and caulker turned him down


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:57:09
We have offered Fulham - Adam plus roughly £3-4m for Dempsey.

Cheers JK


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:54:55
Hi Ed now borini deal is almost complete. Which player u expect sign next. And what are the chances of Allen and Sturidge. What is ur thoughts on carroll.
Thanx.
Ur response will much appreciated.
{Ed002's Note - Please read the answers already given.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:54:44
ed's, what are the chances of liverpool doing a barca and putting a buy back clause in any carrol deal?


What make you think that he will come back to us if we sold him now


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:53:20
Editors and macca, this may be an old story but still leaves this big what if in my mind. do you know why Miereles was sold to chelsea ? is it because he stubbornly wanted it to leave at the last minute ? I still can't understand why we decided to sell a player that did so well in his first season. and he seemed to be favored by Kenny while he was here.

Miccmak {Ed002's Note - This has been done to death. In simple terms he felt commitments were not honoured by the club.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:52:25
Houllier did it with Ince, McLaren, with Beckham, Pearce with Beckham for the Olypmics and AVB with Lampard. What did they do? They were all managers so insecure about about their own ability that they felt they had to get rid of a big name in order to prove how tough they were.

Now we get Rodgers taking the same stance with Carroll. Andy is not yet back from holiday so Rodgers hasn't even trained with him yet, so it is massively disrespectful to be allowing talk of him going out on loan to someone like West Ham or Fulham. If Rodgers can't work with Carroll it proves his inflexibility and that he only knows one way. He has won nothing in the game and is, in my opinion, very lucky to getting his hands on the Liverpool job.

His press conference yesterday was bizarre, saying that he might not even be here to see the results of the foundation he is laying. That is absolute crap - if he thinks that he shouldn't be here now. I am very suspicious of someone who tries to cover their own back by saying how far away we are and what a big job they have. In my opinion, we are not that far away. We can always compete with the top sides on the day and our many victories over them in the past few years prove that. What any coach needs to do is get the consistency against the lesser teams. Most Liverpool supporters know where we have been weak and 3 players would improve things dramatically - a wide player who can create and cross, an attacking midfield player with vision and a few goals in his locker and a 3rd striker to put away some of the many chances that go begging. If we had that, Rodgers wouldn't be talking about challenging for a Champions League place, he would be talking about challenging for the title itself. Shankly must be turning in his grave to hear him talking about 4th place as success.

Time will tell if I'm wrong but I give Rodgers 12 months. I'd make that 6 months, only FSG won't want to admit they were wrong so soon.

redmersey


If you thin were that close maybe you should have applied!! Rogers is not making exscuses and hasn't said Carroll is going its all in the press. And even if he does are you comparing Carrols stature at the club the same as Lampard/Beckham/Ince? They were all senior players don't think Carroll is in that bracket yet? Even the King didn't pick him week in week out and most though KK could do no wrong. We all were not calling for KK head when he left AC out were we??


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:51:57
Don't know about anyone else but I have a feeling we'll look back in 18 months and be saying "why did we let Carroll go?"
He started to show at the end of last season what he can do................

Will be a big mistake to give up on him now IMO.

Mark the Selby Red


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:51:32
Someone who remains anonymous keeps posting under my posts, I wish they would sign off so I could return the banter or have a proper discussion.

I wish a sign off was compusary for this site.
Any chance eds?

In the form you use to post you could change the name box to compulsory and use it to automatically sign people's posts off for them.

It would improve the site so much and I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for one of your tech guys to sort out.

Anyway keep up the good work.

MIKEY


Yeah sign off names should be compulsary on here


 

 

13 jul 2012 12:51:22
maxi to stay!!

...hope so anyway.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:50:59
If this "Borini having medical today" talk is actually on the mark, and not just a panic because the week's almost out. I will be an outrageously happy man, bring on the Italians. Except Aquilani, that jerk has toyed with me enough, i was so happy when we signed him, then he started playing really well, then... BANG, homesick, bored, cold, WHATEVER the hell happened, he's toyed with my emotions enough. I want a strong willed, talented and above all hungry player coming in, not only that, a player with an eye for the tactical side of the game. Worthy of his selection for the Euro squad, and a very intelligent footballer. Not enough of them about these days, especially not in the premier league. Brains over bamboozled, braindead, brauny buffoons any day.

Red7.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:50:51
I personally believe that we should adapt Carroll to our style of play next ýear as its likely he will have a better season and score more goals. Does Adam,spearing suit our play,that they are being pushed out the door so soon?we were missing goals last season and atleats Carroll has the potential to put the ball in the net. BY keeping caroll for even just next season it will not only help us but if we are to sell carrol raise his value significantly from what he is valued at now, 9 to 13 million? From the 35million we paid' I hope BR doesn't try to change too much to soon,we seen what happened with AVB at Chelsea' and Di matteo getting the best with the players already at the club'. As always have faith'

Melbourne'


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:50:30
liverpool fans are some whingers on here this morning

we signed a 21 yr old italian international, they werent too bad at the euros
the player is young and hungry for success , keen eye for a goal , good movement off the ball and makes more tackles and harries defenders more than most other attackers

so you get a kid who works tirelessly scores and makes intelligent runs aged 21 for 12 million or whatever and you re all complaining.....i m getting borini on my jersey, was lucas now it ll be borini


Good shout mate. Puts it into a bit of context for the haters (such as the anonymous poster at 12:49:04).

Red G


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:49:04
lfc is the only club after borini. no contest. simply shows just a ordinary player lfc is after. BR has no taste,all is target are not keen to join him. hope BR is removed after 1 season.


You brainless idiot.You have no idea do you? He is picking players he thinks will suit the type of game he wants to play.He cannot spend 20/30 million if he has not got it. Sadly the way the game is run ( since Bosman) clubs are stuck with players that are not performing.We are suffering still from Rafa and Hodgson boobs.
Rogers is not blowing money like they did.


Please go away and be a bitter supporter somewhere where they are used to bitterness.

Red G


I'd rather you were removed - the lad is young, is an an Italian International who Rodgers knows well, and what he is capable of - maybe other PL managers didn't have that information - or perhaps didn't need a striker - check squad lists, I think you'll find 6 of the teams that finished above us last year are OK in that department.


How can you call yourself a LFC supporter? I think you have spent two many hours playing FIFA on the playstation.......if your not happy go off and support some other club.......because your attitude is without doubt not the one of a true Liverpool Football Club Supporter. In Brendan We Trust!


Is this a Friday the 13th post.
Gee wiz, what a negative sob!.
Give the guy a chance.
My god, maybe you should just find another team to support if you are so unhappy.


What a stupid post. He was a youngster at chelsea then went to parma coz chelsea have billions to chuck away every year then went to roma and now is making another move to a another top club at LFC o and he was in the EURO squad that came second.

When barca let fabregas go you would of said he was ordinary and look him now. Have some vision.

I think what BR is trying to do getting a passsing game back is quite a good style of football so maybe you should question your own taste.

JD


Dont know why anyone has tried to combat this post with a reasonable argument, the guy is clearly clueless, post elsewer you know nothing


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:44:09
I think that we will see more transfer activity on what macca has said. I see it as the following

Aqualani & 1 other CM going prob spearig or adam replaced by Allen
Kuyt Replaced by Dempsey
Borini as an etc striker. ( Gives us more options.)

If carrol goes then fair enough obviously another striker would be needed or winger as dempsey can play upfront so strikers would be dempsey suarez and borini.

I can see J.Cole Staying but another winger also being bought with some real pace out wide.

Just my thoughts, I think they may also be realistic.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:41:49
Ed's my wife who works in central London saw John Terry in a coffee shop the other day so she went up to him and asked if there's in chance of Torres returning to Liverpool.. She said he smiled, gave her a nod and wink... What cud this mean Ed's?

Thanks Mark T


Perhaps it means you shouldn't leave your wife alone in a coffee shop with JT again ;-)


It means "get lost, cant you see im talking to my lawyer"

Red G


I think it means your wife is trouble mate. :p

ag


Oh dear....this is too easy for jokes....

Tristan


Mate, I would be more worried about Terry asking your wife for her mobile number.
You better keep a eye on that situation!.


I would seriously re-consider letting your wife ever go back to that coffee shop..

YNWA! (Adam)


I believe the nod and the wink weren't for Torres...He might have seen something in your wife....haha
OK bad joke...but I don't think he'll ever return to us...
Red PG


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:41:45
to be honest i can see fernando torres going to ac milan nownot andy carroll


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:41:28
Edds and Macca, I imagine this gets asked a lot and I have tried the search function but putting the word Twitter in drags up a lot of unhelpful (in this instance) posts. Could you possibly publish your twitter names so that I could follow some of you, people seem to know them but I don't and cant find them, it would be good if you could, or at least point me to where I can find them.

Cheers, keep up the good work, I seem to spend my life on this site.

All the best

Anonyred {Ed002's Note - I don't have a Twitter name, sorry. If other Eds do then it is not something I am aware of. If Macca does I am sure he will let you know what it is.}


Ed022 is @Player_Profiles and Ed001 is @Ed001andonly

JW {Ed002's Note - Not forgetting you can sign up for the Ed002 Appreciation Society I hope at: tinyurl.com/7fbgecd }


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:41:00
The radio is constantly reporting roma have accepted a fee and borini is in liverpool roday having a medical and discussing personal terms. Just passing on what the radio said.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:40:47
Do you guys suspect Boroni is the signing that Rodgers quoted will 'excite' the fans? In all honesty a 10-12 million pound signing was never going to excite us surely


If we got Messi for 10-12m....Id be pretty excited

cozinoz


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:36:13
Does anybody know if Borini and Aquilani know each other well? I was thinking this Borini move might be good for Aquaman.

Len


Who cares whats good for aquilani. That lazy poor excuse for a footballer shouldn't have anything easy after seeing how much trouble he has already caused us...


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:35:17
Afternoon ed fellow reds,isn't this exciting . I don't think I can controll myself,we've only landed the biggest player in world football .boroni ? Boroni WHO .midtable at best guys .cheerspsv ps great job mr rodgers


It's Borini. If your insulting him at least get his name correct and after you do that why don't you go somewhere else. We don't want you here.redl4fe


You can't even spell the lads name so you have no right whatso ever to judge him.

KT!


Borini who? Let me help!
Fabio Borini-21 Years Old.
Began his career as a youth player with Bologna as both he and his dad were fans of the club.
Impressive displays got Chelsea knocking.
Chelsea reserves-Top scorer 08/09 with 10 goals in 11 matches. Scoring against Man Utd reserves in the process and notching in 5 goals against WBA reserves to bring a comeback from 3-0 to 5-3.
Ancelotti on Borini, " I like his anger, his meanness and desire to always be first on the ball"
Roma-9 goals in 24 games averaging to 0.375 goals/game. Second top scorer with the likes of Lamela, Bojan, Osvaldo, Totti and Piscitella on their books.
KNIFE BETWEEN TEETH celebration.
Borini said, "In Italy it means you've got the knife between your teeth.
When you want to achieve something so badly that you are angry to reach your goals, you put the knife between your teeth".
Borini who? Hope that silences the critics.
RedSox69


Ask the same question in Italy and I bet the answer will be different.

If you ask about Adam Johnson, Sturridge, Powell etc. in any other country, they would say ........ WHO?
Enter your choice of from above in the Blan.


He isnt a liverpool fan lads, at least not one that we want or need, wud surprise me if this person had ever been to anfield, probly a sad manc to be honest


If your reference is to me (cheers psv) . I go to. An field regular I have been a reds fan for 35 years ,a top player that will excite me is at least a player that you,ve heard of . So feel free to have a pop but he NOT exciting me .cheers psv


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:34:52
Hi Eds keep up the great work!
I heard some of ye are on Twitter.....how can we find ye on it?

IrishRed {Ed002's Note - I have never used Twitter - so I have no idea.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:34:30
andy carroll will not be leaving this summer brendan rogers wants to see the whole squad and i mean the whole squad at pre season then he will make uo his mind on if hes leaving or not (doubt it though)
liverpool fc have got some brilliant player who are just not playing at there best! i think thta they will get used to brendan and the way he plays and they will become great players again
andy carroll-great player still quite young though
stewart downing-very fast always causing trouble
jordan henderson-star of the future one day will start for england. LFC have the quality a few extra signing borini and dempsey would be great but the more they change the more that the players have to get used to!


Cripes, a postive post! Are you on the right site! Dont you know you should be moaning about Borini, BR, FSG and anything else liverpool related! We should be signing all of the Barcelona and Real Madrid teams , not average.... Blah Blah Blah! It will take time to build us back up to were we belong! Wish people would remember what's at the end of the storm!

Red Lion YNWA


Henderson has fantastic short range passing ability and vision for a young lad, i see him and shelvey being utilised alot more in the centre this year, andy carroll given a chance, will be fantastic for us as the spearhead of a 3 man attack with suarez to one side and maybe borini to the other? i think downing might suffer under br but who knows


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:32:56
hey ed.. if aquilani did stay at liverpool do u think he would be a gud edtion for the team, or has he lost his form, havent seen much of him the last 2 years but surely hes still a good player to have in the team {Ed002's Note - He wants out and Liverpool want rid. Staying would not suit anyone.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:25:24
i cannot believe we are almost nailed on to sell andy carroll, especially with the most likely replacement to be dempsey, considering andy is 23 and has the potential to be a far better player than dempsey in the box, and will cause more problems for defenders.
i think this is a terrible decision on br's behalf, i am very happy with the br appointment and am excited for what the future holds under him, but i do feel he will need a player like carroll to mix things up wen some of the more stubborn defences that we just cant pass through
i feel for the lad i really do, hes a confidence player, and this must hav battered just that, i feel he deserves another year minimum. i believe it would be very nieve on br's side to offload him now


Big andy will prove the doubters wrong just like lucas, just give the lad a chance or we may regret it...how many goals has he scored with hes head vs how many times has he launched a bullet from his left peg?

Any player that can pull John Terry's pants down whilst turning him inside out is not a joke


Yes I hope its all BullSh*t give him another year he was showing signs of form coming to the end of last season


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:24:41
no rumour, sources, bulls**t etc just a Q...
if Modric goes Real who does he step ahead of in the pecking order...Alonso?...so you know my next question..


Modric is a different type of midfielder to Alonso.
Wishful thinking never signed a player....unlucky.

MUSHROOM


Mate,you are likely to get a load of people jump on here and abuse you now, the thing is ignore them. although they are both midfielders, one is a defensive Mid and the other an attacking Mid, they would complement each other.
With a world cup 2 years away Alonso is playing brilliantly and will want to give his chances the very best, so I can't see him leaving spain and champions league football. Ed's may know different.
RNred


Modric should partner Alonso. Mourinho isn't stupid - no way Alonso will leave - Just let it go.

BJH YNWA


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:21:25
Do people realise that next season could possibly be the hardest we've ever faced in the League?

So the ''exciting'' player Brendan Rodgers was on about is Fabio Borini. Is this some sort of joke? Exciting? He could barely get a game for Chelsea, Swansea or Roma. Yet we agree to spend 13m on him. We are paying stupid money for below average players yet again.

Last season we wasted 35m on Carroll, 20m on Henderson, 18m on Downing and 6m on Adam. I thought we would of learned our lesson after that, but 13m for Borini is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

We are going to fall further behind, rather than close the gap on City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle.

City will no doubt improve their squad, Chelsea have got Marin and Hazard, United have got Kagawa and Powell and They will sign more, Arsenal have got Podolski and Giroud, Spurs have got Siggurdsson, Vertongen and Adebayor.

Also, Adebayor for 5m... Borini 13m. I know the age gap but Borini will not make it at our club so id much rather 3-4 good seasons with Adebayor for 5m.

Can Rodgers attract the players that will improve us? Is he too small time? We've missed out on Siggurdsson, Diame, Kalou, Caulker, De Jong?, Martinez etc. And we have 0 chance realisticly of signing Ramirez, Llorente, Munian etc, No Chance.

Carragher should retire, He's costiing us games, goals, points. Gerrard is another year older and only started 18 games last season. Reina, Agger, Skrtel and suarez could be on their way. It's not looking good for us.

If we're not careful, Swansea, Everton, Q.P.R could over take us and we be bottom half off the table.

Rodgers will fail in my opinion, He doesnt have what it takes, He will go down the same road as Hodgson and Dalglish. Not good.

Graham YNWA


Cut the optimism mate. Are you a glass half full person? It is Friday 13th so don't go anywhere - just in case!


You do know YNWA means you are meant to show support? Please don't use it in your posts if you are going to have a go at a player and manager who have been part of precisely 0 matches for Liverpool.

Rafa's Purple Goatie


Wow, nice and upbeat. Really put me in a positive mood.

Lighten up Mr. Fergurson.


Cant believe you signed off graham 'YNWA'

You'll never walk alone - You not supporting the club in that way it's instant abuse for players that haven't even put the shirt on. Arbeloa, alonso, owen, fowler, pepe, agger, lucas, skrtel didn't have name for themselves until they were given the chance and now some are at clubs like real madrid and others linked with top clubs like city etc.

You have to give BR a chance and praise his ideas of getting back to pass and move and the days were lfc controlled the games they played.

Let's all just stay positive until christmas at least eh.


26 appearances for Roma inspite of injuries.
9 for Swansea in 2 months.

And as for Chelsea,it is a little hard for a 19 year to demand a start ahead of a club Legend Drogba, Anelka and Kalou. Same thing happened to Sturridge.


Relax, Technically, Borini was the 196th best player in Seria A last season


Insincere Graham! puts YNWA after his name. We need better supporters than this.
kidmillions


If we as supporters do nothing but feed negativity onto the team and management, it will be no suprise if he fails.

For the love of Shanks..... We are LFC SUPPORTERS. Can we please just get on and SUPPORT?!!

Red G


So basically you are saying only Chelsea have improved their squad - Arsenal losing RVP, Spuds losing Modric and VDV. It's boring to repeat it, but I will - we dropped 30 points at home last year - that will certainly not happen under BR.


This is exactly how I see it. Confirms my fears. Rodgers came from being a big fish in a small pond to a small fish in a big pond.
It would be nice if I were wrong, but age and experience wins over blind optimism.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:18:49
i think selling carrol is going to be a big mistake. come christmas when hes scored 15 for some other club and borini has scored 2, people will be demanding to know why we let him go for so cheap! And if we are not near the top end of the league this will pile pressure on BR. come a couple of years when he is setting the world cup alight us liverpool fans will be gutted! I say give the lad at least till january to see what he can do!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:15:13
borini to liverpool for
AUD-18mil
USD-18mil
EURO-15mil
GBP-12mil

Red Aussie


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:13:47
Hi guys, every season we all wait in anticipation for that big signing, that player in that position we all know has been needed for a while now. Liverpool is a club that is cemented in history and success, a club that every year has fans thinking " just maybe" then we go and sign a player like Borini. It just shows that a manager of BR stature however good I believe he has potential to become, is just not big enough to draw top players to Anfield. FSG have funds and if a top player is available then wouldn't they support the transfer. On the other hand why are they willing to support they 12million signing of Borini.
This whole single transfer saga has just gone on to prove that Liverpool FC is struggling to bring in top players. Rumours of Carroll leaving are stupid considering he was at the end of last season our best player. Is Maxi going, Aqualani, Spearing Adam? To be fair, they are all poor players. They are all players that make Liverpool a 8th position team!
We need ambition back at the club not modesty and settling for 2nd or 3rd best. How is adding Borini to our strike force going to improve our goal scoring ability? And what if Andy Carroll leaves? What if on top of that Suarez is injured. Stevie G isn't always 100% fit! Borini upfront with maxi behind him!? Ok then! I'm so disappointed with BR and FSG's ambition in regards to player signings! Oh dear!! I guess us Liverpool fans will have to wait another decade or so! Sorry for the rant guys, I just see no positives at the moment. Clive from Anfield


Wait till the end of the transfer window, then you have every right to rant.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:12:53
has borini passed the medical and agreed to personal terms?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:11:47
The 21-year-old is of English origin, having been born to a Liverpudlian soldier, and it is this connection which has seen the Reds come forward a potential suitor, with exclusively reporting the side's interest in the attacker.

Schalke are keen to extend the player's existing contract, which expires next summer, but Holtby admits that he might not sign a new deal amid interest from the Premier League.

"I am very happy in Schalke. But I would be lying if I said I will definitely extend may contract," he told Bild. "My dream was always the Premier League - and someday I will make this step."

Raul recently left the Veltins Arena in favour of a lucrative move to Qatar, paving the way for Holtby to make his mark on the team in the No.10 position, but he refused to be drawn into comparisons with the Spaniard.

"I will not play like Raul," he asserted. "He is simply world class and a unique breed. But I am Lewis Holtby and will play the role of No.10 my way. I am fighting for the position."

Holtby then gave his assessment of the new season, and believes that the Konigsblauen have a realistic of winning the Bundesliga if they get off to a good start.

"Everyone begins at zero and we all have the chance to be champions. I have faith in our young, hungry squad and feel that we have a realistic chance. It may happen this year." sorry for cut and paste.

ITS L.HOLTBY.........................


He said it would be a dream come true to play for Everton. Enough said


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:11:12
Why are fans so negative on this site?

They say Tottenham are buying big names and improving their squad - WHERE?
Vertonghen - average Belgian Centre Half, not guaranteed to start.
Sigurdsson - not guaranteed a start.
and possibly losing Modric and VanDe Vaart.

United have bought Nick Powell and Kagawa

Chelsea have bought Marin, De Bruyne and Hazard, but have lost their talisman in Drogba.

City to date have bought no one.

Arsenal - possibly the busiest with Giroud, Podolski and Mertesacker - enough said if RVP leaves though with his goal return last season

So in reality none of them have really improved their squads apart from maybe Chelsea who possibly have the strongest squad of them all.

Be positive and hope that BR knows exactly what he wants, and that the ones he gets will improve the competition for places.

John B


What reality are you checking.
City don't need to buy for the sake of it. may be they will end up buying RVP

Spurs completed the deal for Adebayour, Glyfi is a wonderful player and the Belgian is a world class defender. more like Agger

Chelsea are finally managing in replacing their aging squad. Hazard will probably be the transfer of the summer and Marin is a classy winger and are still after a wrold class striker

united got Kagwa and are after another world class midfielder

and let me remind you. they were far better than us last season. we are the one who needs much improvement not them

miccmak


Chelsea have an ageing team right up the spine of their team is not as strong it was cech,terry,lampard,Drogba gone.This Hazard boy is meant to have a horrible attitude right up there with collymore.tommy Irish Red.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:57:54
So the general consensus amongst these 'supporters' is that FSG need to throw money we don't have, at players that do not want to be here, or BR will be out by christmas? Nice.
Before you click the submit button, do you guys, think things through? You know, a bit of analytical thinking perhaps? Say it out loud to see if it sounds as ridiculous as it looks on a screen?
Not telling anyone how to live there life, just letting you aware of the options available to you.
Shout outs to the eds for being awesome, patient and at least attempting to be the voice of reason. Shout outs to the regular posters with their heads screwed on properly. The site would be nothing without you.
Davey Liver


Ah well mate i think you'll find that there are t**ts from all fanbases so just enjoy having the laugh whilst reading their posts.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:57:52
Eds with Liverpool having already sold Kuyt, and Bellamy and Carroll being heavily linked with moves away, do you think we will sign another striker or 2, as well as Borini? {Ed002's Note - I am sure the squad will have players promoted for the reserves or brought in to cover all positions.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:09:08
You've gotta laugh, we've had over a year of everyone saying get rid of Carroll, now there's talk of it, everyone wants him to stay!

Lucas Lovechild


Maybe 50% of LFC fans were saying get rid of Carroll. Now it's the OTHER 50% saying let's not let him go ... probably more like it eh Luke?

dd


Sod that, I say get rid. If people are honest they will agree he is absolutely garbage, a few decent matches at the end of the season doesn't make him a good player, he was totally pants last season and not the kind of player who will be successful with the style of football that Rodgers wants to play.


Remember the moprons were all like this over your namesake Lucas, give Carroll time, he's young, he's strong and ask John Terry, an absolute handful to play against when in the mood, all BR has to do is make sure he's always in the mood.

John B


It was the t**ts who said to get rid of carroll, the real fans stuck by him.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 12:04:51
Dempsey I'd rather have makepeace !really hope se get rid of adam but dont want dempsey.


Ah what a nice thought - Glynis Barber - oops sorry was drifting into a very nice dreamworld, forgot this is a football rumour site for a minute.
Dempsey, at the right price could prove a masterstroke, but then again it could not - are we to find out?
Anyway back to my dreaming.

John B


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:57:29
hi eds, are liverpool still in hunt for a right winger?, we certainly lack in that area, or if dempsey does sign, would he be put onto the right wing?

Thanks eds {Ed002's Note - I don't know what BRs is planning regarding the right wing.}


Maxi will start at least 25 matches this coming season.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:54:44
Lovely weather on Merseyside for Borini to come and complete personal terms, if I was him, I'd get the next flight back to Rome ... :D


Maybe he likes Crowded House ? lol

Mr Slonk The Red

YNWA


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:52:35
Ok People..... how many people want Andy to stay? how many want him to go?
I reckon the vast majority of fans want him to stay and that includes me. He deserves another season to prove himself. we will regret it if we let him go.
If he stays for on more season does well, his value increases. The club needs to make money not lose money. we will lose out big time if AC is sold in this window.
Come on Andy supporters lets hear you.

Paul.


Yeah when you buy a record signing who is at the age of 22 then you must give him at least 3 seasons to prove himself.
derryred


Stay. But if BR wants him to go, then i'm happy with that, here's why:
I hope he can fit in, i really do, but there's really only 1 person at the moment who know whether or not he'll fit in and not only avoid looking like the odd man out, will also contribute and be a success.
So, like everything to do with this club, i'm happy to wait and see.

Red7.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:52:13
i don't think we need to break the bank to have a squad worthy of competing next season. rodgers himself has stated that we're looking to bring in 3/4 players, i believe we only need 2 with aquilani and joey coming back. we'd have a great squad, a mixture of experience and youth.

gk - reina. gulacsi
lb - enrique. robinson
cb - agger. coates
cb - skrtel. carragher. wisdom
rb - johnson. kelly
dm - lucas. coady
cm - gerrard. henderson. shelvey
am - aquilani. cole. suso
lf - *ramirez*. bellamy. sterling
rf - suarez. downing
cf - *borini*. carroll


Guys guys guys, we will not get Ramirez. Please stop all of this kidding yourselves, when the likes of City are supposedly interested we haven't got a chance.


Get over the Ramirez thing. Not coming unless Suarez leaves as mentioned by the Eds


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:51:34
hey ed. any interest in lars or sven bender? any updates on ramirez, afellay? {Ed022's Note - No on any of them that I know of.}


Bender brothers! we're looking for more support in the US, this'd see SanFran on our side! {Ed002's Note - Nobody should ever call The City San Fran.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:49:54
I really don't understand why LFC would pay £11m for Borini when players like Susaeta is 'available' from like £6m?

Would you guys describe Borini as the "exciting" signing BR talked about or can we expect someone actually exciting.

Cheers
Carl


How do you know that Susaeta is available for 6m? You submitted an official enquiery? You talked to the player and found out that he is just dying to move from Spain to England? I want him too mate, but Borini is a completely seperate target, and perhaps better suited for Brendan's plans. Have a little faith.

Drigan


Susaeta may be available for that price. Thing is, he's not a f*****g lawnmower, he'll ultimately decide where he wants to go.
I really really like him as a player, but there are other clubs interested at this time, and he may well express zero interest in joining us, for all we know we may have enquired.
We can't just say "right, here'ya Athletic Bilbao, here's the 6m now hand him over!".

Red7.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:49:23
ed how do you rate allen?
just watched a youtube clip of him (not much to base an opinion on) but he seems to work very hard, good tackling, good passing, very quick and seems to intercept quite alot of attacks.
I for one wouldnt complain if we got him, he knows how rodgers wants to play, he is only 21, and he can only improve with the likes of gerrard around him. {Ed022's Note - He's a very good young player.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:48:57
Ed any truth in the rumours that Fulham are preparing a Cash + Dempsey offer for Andy Carroll ? Heard this on Ed022 timeline on twitter. I think if they offer around 13-15 million pounds + Dempsey we should accept it. Its the best we can get at the moment.
NOTE: Before some fans start abusing , I too want Carroll to stay but if the manager does not see him in his plans it is best to move him on. {Ed022's Note - Howdy ho. This is true, and Ed002 actually confirmed it for me a moment or two ago. However, Carroll has offers from other places (haven't found out where from as of yet) so this deal is by no means certain. It is not guaranteed that it is a player+cash deal, as the deals could be separate as well. Hope this helps.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:42:21
Hey Eds

If we could get 8 million plus and Clint Dempsey for Andy Carroll would you see that as a good deal?

Thanks

Thatracoonstolemybacon {Ed002's Note - Sure.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:36:41
Why does everyone think Dempsey is a 15-20 million pound player? He had a lucky season last year and is average fish in a small pond! I think we need an older player like we had with Gary Mac! Pirlo or someone similar?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:35:42
Ed002/Macca For the sake of my sanity tell me if we are likely to see a signing today? There is only so many times I can keep pressing F5.

Cornish Red {Ed002's Note - I cannot say when any signing will be completed but as we all know, Borini is close.}


Ed's any news on an auto refresh feature for the site? {Ed002's Note - I'll ask.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:35:36
Can't help but think how s**t we are going to be next season. Newcastle, spurs, Arsenal,chelsea Both manchester clubs have bought in top players. Liverpool have signed an average kid who Roma didnt fight very hard to keep. That tells me a lot.


Here's your chance - please list the top players Utd, City Tottenham have brought in, because I can't find them online anywhere. Also list the ones Tottenham are probably losing ie - the 2 best players they had last year Modric and Van De Vaart


Sad , negative , unsupportive comments in my opinion.
KJS


So I take it Everyone is sh*t then? I take it that two time euro winner pepe reina is s**t and that our back four who had the third best defense in the premier league are sh*t? Our midfield is cr*p as well all we have is Lucas, Gerrard aquaman and joe cole coming back, oh yeah I forgot player of the copa America 2011 Luis Suarez is absolute dog cr*p as well. And not to mention a new signing who made the Italy euro team at the age of 21 oh sure he ain't good. I swear people like you is what's wrong with this beautiful club.


Your post tells me you know nothing about football. You also forgot to sign your name coward.

dd


As you are talking of this summer,
United - Kagawa . ( Powell does not count.)
City - None
Newcastle - Romain Amalfitano
Tottenham - Vertonghen to replace King, Sigurrdson to replace VDV.
Arsenal - Podolski,Giroud to replace RVP


So out of the top 6 except Chelsea, only United have strengthened their squad.

So why is exactly everybody moaning?


Corvin


Can't help but think how s**te and depressing your life is. i don't get why you are so worked up, it is only a game mate. there is no point in getting suicidal over it.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:33:23
hai Ed gm..and nice work..
I am so angry today..i hope you have seen gyfi comments on liverpool.....
how dare he compared us with spurs...
have they seen CL trophy?...do they have a captain?
a player like gerrard?
whatever...lets show him this season...whats to be like a liverpool player...

whats your thought on this?

thanks for posting....
YNWA {Ed002's Note - Suck it up and move on.}


As you are talking of this summer,
United - Kagawa . ( Powell does not count.)
City - None
Newcastle - Romain Amalfitano
Tottenham - Vertonghen to replace King, Sigurrdson to replace VDV.
Arsenal - Podolski,Giroud to replace RVP


So out of the top 6 except Chelsea, only United have strengthened their squad.

So why is exactly everybody moaning?


Corvin


Well he's not going to say he's made a mistake and the Liverpool are a better side to play for than Spurs, that would really help his relationship with the fans.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:33:10
Sorry for the negative post lads but recently all i have heard on this site is that our transfer activiy is back to old maby this is somethig that was the liverpool way before my time (1991) or something because all i heard is knobody knows the ins and outs of lfc but havent people been going on about borrini for about 2 weeks or so i know i have read his name on the site load of times now it seems official transfers cant be that quiet then can they anybody care to make an argument. STEMLOCC1


And breathe..

Snipets of inside knowledge do get out STEMLOCC, it is the root of the knowledge that needs to be looked at.
Personally, until i see player shaking hands with BR under the "this is anfield" sign, it is just speculation.
Piddy.


Perhaps it was just people making sensable guesses. i mean borini was available, liverpool needed at least one striker, maybe two because at the time suarez was linked heavily with a move away and of course rodgers has worked with borini before and to great rewards.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:36:51
Official. We have had a bid accepted by Roma for borini.

Can the eds shed any Light on possible fees? {Ed002's Note - You mean transfer fee, VAT, agent fees, VAT on agent fees, signing on fee etc.. There is little point in discussing the finances in any detail as it will then be equated against an imaginary budget and after deducting the costs for Allen, Dempsey and Cavani the question will be asked if there is enough money remaining to buy Scott Sinclair.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:30:38
Liverpool manager says we will get exited over a player who would not have got in the reserves a few years ago is a joke. 11 million has gone down the crap hole.


The important part of your post is " a few years ago " would you believe some players actually improve as they get older, some even get selected for their national sides, and some of those national sides get to the Euro Final.


Few years ago he was a kid, why woudln't he have got in our reserves, since he was at Chelsea he has ended up int the national team, funny that


I'm pretty sure most players start in reserves. Would you believe it if I told you that Messi (No1 player in the world) was on the verge of getting let go from Barcelona's academy? He was too slow, had no stamina or strength.
Funny old world isn't it

Red Raw


I agree, 10 years ago when he was 11 he was even worse !!, Or why not discuss him 15 years ago, we've signed a bed wetter !!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:28:18
ed002 with liverpool about to complete a move for borini ? what formation do see them playing because i cant see him fitting into the current formation ? and i cant see andy carroll being a part of rodgers plans after he has signed borini considering the type of player borini is {Ed002's Note - You need to ask ither Eds about formations rather than me. Folks are misled about formations as they constantly need to adapt during a match. I recall a discussion once where it was decided that the only time formations could be considered fixed was at kick off. I know this guy at Clairefontaine who for maybe 20 years has been studying if and how different formations are applied. He advocates and teaches that certain sides (he cites Barcelona, Chelsea, Ajax and Kashima Antlers) that have achieved varying levels of success have actually now reverted to something between no formation at all and the Metodo approach and that strict formations should be a thing of the past. He wants to see intelligent players that can adapt as the game changes and this is what is being toaught to the French kids who are seen as the future of the game in France.}


Haha chelsea must revert from a 4-2-3-1 to an 8-1-1 to a 9-1-0.


Formations? thought I'd stumbled on to a line dancing site :)
kidmillions


Ed - You and that Clairefontaine story again..... I just have to comment on it -

I mean no offence, but what he said is such nonsense - yet you seem to have taken his opinions as your own - and accepted them to be true.

Of course people adapt during a match. But formations and systems are essential.

But it's becoming apparent why France have become rubbish in the past few years - it certainly helps explains the lack of understanding within their system if this is how they are thinking!

Also -

You're a Chelsea fan man!! Mourinho!!

He is one of the most tactically restrained coaches I have possibly ever seen - maybe Rafa could compete. He is brilliant, but he drills structure, structure, structure - particularly without the ball.

And the Ajax system is absolutely organised and defined - as is Barca's. Their coaching manuals and videos can be found online - no problem.

As for Barca, they could almost play with their eyes shut they're so predictable - all the way through from their youth teams to the first team.

It sounds like the guy you were talking about was trying to sound clever and profound (imagine... a Frenchman doing that!) to impress you. I'd take what he said with a pinch of salt ed.

He's talking nonsense.

The Metodo approach refers to an actual formation which was the precursor/inspiration for the Michels Ajax system - which Cruyff brought to Barca.

In it's modern guise, the system has evolved into that which is used by these clubs (Barca & Ajax) today - and it is also the system which is favoured and used by Rodgers - Mourinho too.

To be more accurate - the metodo, strictly speaking - is used by no-one nowadays, but these sides certainly do use the modern variant of it. Which - if anything - is an even more defensive-minded and tactically refined than the original.

The modern version - on paper, is similar in terms of the positioning of players on the pitch - starting positions at kick off - but differs in terms of the roles (or tactical instructions) assigned to each player.

Substituting Wingers for Inside-forwards in the front 3 for example - and imposing more disciple in the central trio in midfield - as diplayed by Barca, Ajax, Chelsea etc.

In this regard - His comments are entirely contradictory tbh. You may have misinterpreted what he meant.

'We use something between a formation and no formation at all'

?????

I reckon he may have been referring to 'with the ball' - where more movement and freedom are allowed - and 'without the ball', where players must get back to their positions - even in that scenario I find what he said to be without merit tbh.

The main difference between Chelsea and the others you mention is the choice of pass selection.

Yet the modern version of the 'metodo' formation is used by all these clubs - at leat that much is correct. (I won't pretend I know much about Antlers)

BJH YNWA - I mean no harm ed. Just don't put much stock into what he said. It really is a total contradiction.

The whole concept of such formations is based on pressing, structure and phases of transitional, zonal-based passing and movement.

If you want a tactic-less example of this style, think Maradona's [as manager] Argentina. A shapeless, clueless pub-team filled with talent. Without structure though - hopeless.

ps - I like a good tactics discussion. I could go into more detail, particularly on phases of play and tactical flexibility and discipline within such systems - for each area of the pitch - with or without the ball - tactical instructions are absolutely clear.

The Ajax model truly is one of organisational beauty. As is Barca's. I just think this fellow and his Laissez Faire interpretation of the use and functions of some of the games tactical imperatives are very misguided indeed.

Houllier would give him a right spanking if he heard this liberal tactical nonsense... lol.

Keep up the good work though.

pps - As an aside though ed - Anything we to look out for in Borini? You've likely seen more of him than I have (or most of us have) - I'm excited about the guy.

I hear he can play in any position across a front 3 - as he has at Roma, who play a similar game to Rodgers.

Do you think he would be better on the left, right - or as the central attacker in such a system?

eg. Carroll is clearly better centrally - and is not much of an option in the wider areas. Any preferences in your opinion?

Suarez left - Carroll central - Borini right sounds good to me.

Is it plausible? Would Borini be comfortable/effective there. If someone put a gun to your head - and you had to say - which of the three slots would be best for him. Your opinion would be appreciated. Cheers again.

(sorry about our past little tiffs. I appreciate your hard work ed.)

{Ed002's Note - The guy at Clairefontaine is one of the most respected coaches in the world.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:28:11
Latest from all major media is that the fee has been agreed for Borini and he arrived at Liverpool this morning for his medical and is expected to sign his contract tlater this afternoon. RED LENIN


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:24:24
I am really optimistic about the new season i think we could finish in 14th. With Rodgers new signings maybe 13th


Another fantastic fan of the club....showing true support. If you watched most games last season Liverpool dominated many of them but lacked the finishing to take the points and walked away with loads of draws. Rodgers is looking at rectifying the issue and fans are being morons. It will be the same fans I have no doubt that will be singing his praises when the team do well. Maybe you should go and support someone who will maybe finish higher than the 13th you predict.


And you support LFC?? My mind tells me the worst will be 6th. But my heart tells me that we may achieve 4th, and may be 3rd though odds seem to be stacked against that.


At long last an optimist on the site - but not very good at typing - you seem to have put a 1 in front of your predictions by mistake.
Goodison Park are desperate for supporters like yourself.


Why Oh Why do these people say they love the club and are fans of our Club but find it hard to support our famous club when things aren't going great, next season is going to be the season i hope changes Liverpool forever in a good way and i hope people like this leave and go support Sc*m


I think we could get top 4 this season, it'll be between us, Arsenal and Tottenham. As far as I'm concerned that's a start, as soon as top 4 is achieved again, more money which means world class players once again

Red Raw


Why dont you put 15 quid on it then mate if you are so sure? i think you will get great odds on that.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:23:32
I tried posting earliar but i'm a little late, but genuinly i seen Fabio Borini arriving this morning, and shouted to him about liverpool and he jus smiled at put the thumbs up and was put into a mercedes :) first signing is here people!



LFC till i die.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:23:00
Good morning eds,
If ever Carroll leaves, can we expect at least that he will be replaced by some worldclass striker who does fit into Rodgers way of play?
I'm thinking of the likes of Cavani, Falcao...

Thanks for you answer {Ed002's Note - Neither Cavani nor Falcao will be moving to Liverpool this summer.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:13:08
i stated about a week ago that brendan rodgers would struggle to attract top players. we are being proved right borini if followed by dempsey is a massive step back wards. particulalry if we lose carroll.

it seems there is no out and out wide man being signed which is a glaringly obvious hole in the team

i expect rodgers to be out of the job come christmas


I really do not think that FSG will push out Rodgers, I think they like what he has to say and has a plan, just like they do. Borini and Dempsey are not steps backwards they are players that will add something very different to last year.......goals!


Football is a team game that relies on a manger selecting players that play the way he wishes. Just because a player is good does not mean he is suitable. Any manager who went around buying players just because they were good would quickly end up with 11 players on a pitch all playing as individuals. Rodgers will buy the best that is available within the age/value profile that suit the tactical doctrine he wishes to play. Likewise he will get rid of those currently in the team that do not play that way. And that is the correct approach. Borini will be an excellent addition and the thought of playing a front three in some games of Suarez, Carroll & Borini I find mouthwatering. RED LENIN


You Everton fans should stick yo your own site.


I give him 3 months of pass to average players and loose to rubbish teams. tika s**ta football. Borini would not get in most squads in the top 5 or 6 in the league.


I hope BR does not have to slum it for players like the way"roy h" did , he deserves as much financial backing as kenny had or he will suffer the same fate as "roy h" .we all want BR to make it and get the pride back where it counts, at Anfield ,so please FSG give him the chance and if he can only buy players he wants by selling players well we fans should accept this as BR needs every one on his side even if we do not think borini etc are good enough ,he does so give him a chance.if he fails so do we so get in there from the start and support the way we are best at, back the team on and off the pitch ,we did are moans etc and helped get rid of h+g so that was our sucess move on i say and support the reds in a positive way . red mick tag ynwa


I think dempsey and borini will be great signings. if carroll leaves then i'm sure we will gign either a quality striker or a quality winger/ inside forward. assuming carroll stays i think our tront three will be.
-------carrol--------
suarez------dempsey
with borini on the bench but getting regular appearences and starts. i agree with REDLENIN and find that prospect mouthwatering.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:06:05
i wouldnt be too upset with borini or dempsey and they will add a bit more to the squad but they wont set the world alight. remember downing, adams and henderson were supposed to be proven prem players and they flopped big time.

as a 35 years old, i have supported the club for nearly 30 of these years and as fans we have been brought up on much better players even recently when things werent that great (alonso, mach, torress etc) so if BR thinks borini is the player LFC fans will get excited abt, he needs to get to know us a bit better.

i still think we need a marquee signing and after watching clips of Ramirez again, i think we should spend the 20 odd million that they are after.

we also need a better ball player than skrtl and frankly i'd sell him and get kjaer to partner agger.

i think a line up of the following would possibly excite us. all ball players and there will be cover for all woth some of the other squad players

reina
johnson, kjaer, agger, enrique
gerrard, lucas, ramirez
borini, suarez, dempsey

EDS what do you think about the possibility of such a line up? we would be looking at kjaer, borini, dempsey, ramirez as our signings which i think we will settle for at this stage?

{Ed002's Note - Try the search function for views on each of the players.}


You are certainly a football expert - knowing far more than Dalglish, Hodgson etc to think Henderson is a flop - the boy is quality, and he will show it, given the chance to play in his own position - and that is not the right wing as kenny thought.


I doubt you are 35, surely you would have a much more mature view than that. if rodgers thinks borini and dempsey will improve our squad then i trust him more than you. if you base judgement on ramirez on youtube clips then i have some magic beans for you. i'm goin to put you looking to replace skrtel with kjear down as a typo because when you have a top cb pairing then you keep it that way. also i think skertl is good enough on the ball, whilst i remember kjear lobbing 20 ft high passes to the fullbacks against holland in the euros. hendo is quality, adam changed his position whilst at liverpool and downing wasn't nearly as bad as people like you make him out to be.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:04:37
morning eds , i know its twitter but kopwatch are saying sunderland are interested in downing , do u know if there is any truth in it , thanks for all your info .... steve {Ed002's Note - I don't know.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:04:26
So Fabio borini is our first signing? People were saying the first signing will show our intention well our first signing is a Chelsea academy reject, half a season in the championship and a handful off goals on a very poor seria a.. and that's costing us 12 mil? Absolute waste how can we back BR plan when this is what he is giving us? A player like junior hoillet is going about around that same price and is twice the player,if we keep signing these players were going to finish below 8th.. very disappointed with this signing, do other LFC fans agree with this? What about you Eds? Honest opinions. {Ed002's Note - I have explained before that Borini was not rejected by Chelsea and they expected much of him. He left simply because Chelsea would not provide commitments to go with the contract offer. As such and with him talking to Parma they let him see out the last 6 months on loan at Swansea.}


No totally disagree with u and while so called negative fans like u are around the club will never move forward or attract decent players with the welcome u give them , get behind the team then we might get somewhere....steve


Disagree. I appreciate you are entitled to your opinion though. However you are talking carp.


Wow with such football knowledge its a miracle you werent considered for the managerial job.
derryred


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:04:04
Thanks FSG for turning liverpool in to a mid table team.


Sorry, have I missed something? didn't King Kenny do that last year - there is no way we will finish as low this year, especially with the avid, and obvious vocal support from optomistic people like yourself.

John B


No it was actually about 15% rafa and 85% hicks and gillet who turned us into a mid table side.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:42:21
Is Borini in Liverpool today as reported by sly ?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:21:29
trade that piece of milk downing for scott sinclair asapp

if necastle want big andy tell them we want tiote or cabaye

sign also

a.johnson sturridge ramirez {Ed022's Note - Spot the word change.}


Cracker ed you should have changed necastle to nestle and it would have topped it off.
derryred {Ed049's Note - obviously it's milk}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:20:57
Lets be honest a guy with one leg could score in the Italian League, Borini will be crap just wait and see. Rodgers needs to aim higher because if you add average players to an average team you will finish mid table year in year out.


A Serie A expert, great news, haven't a national side called Italy juts got to the final of the Euros? Not Germany, France, Holland etc.


A league famed for its defending, seems to me it's probably harder to score there due to their tactics.


So ramirez is s**t too right cos he plays in a crap italian league, andibrahimovic and pirlo, all crap cos my granny who happens to be dead could play in seria a


I have detected a few flaws in your arguement mate


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:02:13
Great Job on here eds I love it.
Just like to state that we have the backbone of a top 4 team within agger, skrtel, Johnson, lucas, Gerrard and Suarez. What are you're thoughts on who the exciting new signing could be? {Ed002's Note - It is Borini.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 11:01:41
I for 1 will be fuming if Carroll goes and borini is his replacement


Carroll isn't going - you need at least 3 quality strikers in your squad nowadays.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:58:43
What is the possibility of Xabi Alonso returning?

The Carroll issue is surely a misinterpretation of Rodgers ' comments, albeit the misinterpretation the press were seeking! {Ed002's Note - Slim I would think.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:56:48
Sky Italia are reporting AC Milan will offer Pato in exchange for Carroll. {Ed002's Note - I am wondering if "Sky Italia" is some sort of Twitter code.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:56:23
I have supported Liverpool for 25 years and one of the many great things about Liverpool is the true fans get behind the club and the manager, people coming on here and complaining on here about brendan rodgers need to have a look at themselves and go support someone else!

We finished 7th last season people linking us with some of the top players in Europe need to go play their computer games and get a reality check!
Fabio borini is 21 and young and hungry, he was also deemed good enough to make the Italian squad. More importantly Rodgers feels he is good enough to play for the club.
Dempsey if signed will be a smashing signing, knows the English league, can play a variety of positions and is a proven goal scorer.
Let's look forward to the new season with enthusiasm and not get annoyed because we aren't signing "big names"


You finished 8th actually behind the better team in liverpool ...FACT

Much Love


But we won a trophy, got into Europe and beat you three times.


You finished behind the best teams in London, Much Love!

JRG


Ha apparently the 3rd best team in london , still finished some 15 or so points and 4 places ahead of the supossed best team in liverpool....FACT !!
Please boys wake up and smell the coffee, you were good once, many moons ago. Football is evolution not revolution ! FACT

Much Love


If we are getting tribal here, you - whoever you are, finished behind two North of England teams and possibly three if you are Chelsea. Not much consolation though is it?


Much love get a life. the best teams in london are set for a tumble;
arsenal- lost the player who carried them at times last year and may lose walcott too
chelsea- hamered when the FFP rules come into play and will miss thier captain for 13 odd games when he is found guilty
spurs- sacked their coach to appoint a chelsea flop, king is finished and is replaced by an unproven cb from the dutch league (don't get me wrong he could be great), vdv is going, modric is going and adebayor is signed to fix their striker crisis.
now liverpool- new up and coming manager appointed who lead swansea to a suprisingly high finish. have the top academy in england. have top young players in hendo, shelvey, coates, kelly, robbo, flanno, sterling, possibly allen and borini. i think in a few seasons we will be laughing.
derryred


You all do really live in a bubble dont you ! so blinkered , why not just admit that you are being left behind, the rest of the football community will respect you more if you take off the rose tinted glasses . AVB didnt flop at chelsea , chelsea flopped on him! stop living in the past.You have been on the decline nowe for 4 years , BR is not the messiah you lot think, he inherited the swansea side , he sh@t out at reading and the other club he managed! you will not improve on last year final position , everyone above you has strengthened , you will probably stay top half ...Just ! dont take my word for it ask around , everyone knows and respects your history , but that is exactly what it is ..History. great teams come and go FACT , its now our turn in the sunshine . No team has a divine right to be inthe Top 4 every year , you earn that over the course of the season. Fact ...

soap box away !

Much love


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:55:59
If we land Allen, Dempsey and borini (as good as done) I will be happy. there goals in 2 of them and a think Allen is just a classy wee midfielder from what I saw last year. Not sure on his goal stats eds but did he not pop up with a few also? anyway if BR doesn't think robinson is quite ready I expect a left back to come in but also if another quality player becomes available at a decent price don't be surprised if we pull a real coup off, what do u think eds?

SPARKY {Ed002's Note - I would say there is still some way to go in the transfer window.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:50:57
Like to see for sure who our next signings will be. Need some quality as at this time i cant see much improvement. We must get fourth spot plain and simple


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:46:57
hi ed any chance of signing sturridge or pato?if carroll goes {Ed002's Note - Search engine broken?}


Well for one Pato would expect well over 100k a week and frankly he's not worth it, plus he is far to lazy to play the style of football Rodgers likes.

And as for Sturridge the lad is a ball hog, its pass and move not pass to Daniel and watch him try and take everyone on.

always a red


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:44:20
If carroll does leave then what's the point in keeping downing etc? My opinion is the likes of downing should be shipped out long before carroll.


Im sorry but post like this are just ludicrous. So your saying downing was bought for the sole purpose to accommodate caroll? Nonsence, this is why the eds get fed up, stupid posts with no thought or reason.
Say get rid of downing because he was under par last season if you want but don't suggest getting rid because rumours of someone else going, it's stupid.
Andy the red


Im pretty sure Downing was bought to supply Carroll. He certainly wasn't bought to score goals.....


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:38:37
PLeas Macca/EDs can you spread some light over Carroll and his situation. Leaving not leaving?

Do Carroll desire to leave or is it Brendan?
I for one want him to stay!
/
1301and


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:36:43
why dont we sell stewart dowing n buy adam johnson
stewart downing--11-12mill
adam johnson-- 15mill
just the difference of 3-4 million
we have a better player n younger and attacking too


Agree, but who the hell would give us 12 million for downut


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:35:52
Borini to take number 10 shirt


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:35:11
Eds... I don't need to tell you how wonderfully addictive this site is... and how much you have to tolerate on here, but... hats off to you none the less. My question to you is this.... Do you (we) really think that one (or four) signatures over the next couple of months is going to change the scope of what (as BR admits) is a task at hand? I mean really... Let's be honest friends. Enough with the high hopes, BS, and what if's... let's get down to reality ok!? Fact is this.. we have a really great group of lads on our squad. They're smart, they know their expectations... AND they KNOW that WE know their expectations! We have nearly half the England starting eleven (at times) not to mention a very intelligent new manager that knows how to play 21st century football. He said it... It's not going to be easy.. AND.. it's not happening anytime soon. But... you know what helps that momentum? Trust! Trust, in that, we aren't letting our boys walk alone! Let's get behind our boys! I mean it! I don't want to see Charlie Adam or Andy leave, or Pepe, or Shelvey or Bells! Or whoever else is the hot topic of the moment. We are beyond that. This is a TEAM! And these are our BOYS!! They fought for us last year.... and we sit here with our attitudes as if we know the ONE critical point as to which we could have helped the season. WHY DON'T YOU TRY AND GET OUT THERE JOKER!! See how well you do.. going to practice everyday trying to do your best to impress a "King". We put high expectations on these lads, without living up to the expectations ourselves. LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB.. this statement is for you: YOU WILL NEVER..... EVER.... EVERRRRR.. WALK ALONE!! We welcome anyone that arrives to our family. And you will never be supported like you have when you arrive here... but....... WE DON'T need you, if you don't have the passion to play for us! This is beyond Champions League.... this is beyond tangible trophies... this is a legacy. You are either with us..... OR.. You are against us! Bleed red my friends!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:33:37
why do liverpool always pay over odds for players? cos a season or 2 down the line they sell them at a massive loss.


Name the players we have sold on at a "massive loss"?

Tristan


I think Robbie Keane would be in that list....

Red PG


Robbie Keane sold for £4 million less, not massive, at least when it didn't work we shipped him out.

Approx transfers:

Torres, paid £24mil sold for £50mil
Alonso paid £10.7mil, sold for £30mil
Mascherano paid £17mil, sold for £22mil
Sissoko, paid £5.3mil sold for £10mil
Arbeloa paid £3mil, sold for £5mil


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:32:13
Gosh you annoying weasels that keep going on about they support everton or man u.why does that matter when you got a career to think about it's nothin to do with who you support


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:31:49
Eds would 15 mil and dempsey be a suitable bid from fulham for carroll u reckon? {Ed002's Note - I would doubt it.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:31:01
Eds, you often make remarks on how unrelible twitter-sources are, but are there any reliable tweeters we should follow? {Ed002's Note - I have never used Twitter but should take the opportunity to say I am aware that The Associated Press and on that basis it should be very reliable indeed.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:30:50
I think Borini is a decent player and you may have just got him before he becomes prolific at a higher grade. 15m euros may turn out to be a bargain. It will spell the end for Carroll as he really doesn't fit the manager's style of play, but that will be a weight off of the fans necks as Carroll always split fan opinion which caused division. Sadly I think his fee is what ruined his Liverpool career, £35m is hard to live up to especially when you aren't worth half that amount.

Disney!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:26:51
Roma accepted bid from liverpool for borrini


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:24:51

Hi Eds

that siggi has stated that he has more chance of success with spurs than us and that was the reason he snubbed us for them, in this statment he points out that spurs have been above us the last few years, they have a new exciting manager, new traning ground, new stadium on the way so there you have it spurs according to siggi are a bigger club than us nothing to do with greed hope he ends up warming their bench like better players than him did recently pierniar krangar (spellings).Tommy Irish Red.


You have to understand that he is Icelandic and roughly translated what he said was "BR did wonders for me and Spurs had no manager when I agreed to sign. Then they got the guy who failed at Chelsea. I also took into account the fact that their supporters are the worst in the Country for moaning at players and leaving the ground early. They are losing their best player and have an ageing squad. But they offered me 20 grand a week more so it was a no-brainer!"

Hope that helps, one needs to understand football-speak. I am sure he will have a wonderful career and no regrets.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:24:49
FSG have no money for liverpool just for the red sox.


How do you work that out mastermind ?? they have spent loads of money on liverpool or is it because you want them to spend 500 million and become like the very teams we ALL moan about.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:20:19
Roma accept bid for Borini........sly sports

Looking forward to seeing the new look and style LFC

CoolhandLFC
JFT96


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:19:57
Rodgers is clueless buying rubbish crap Borini is s**t waste of the little money we have


Ahh Antonio Bruno, The most well respected analyst of Italian Football how kind of you to grace us with your presence -McMenemy


Hey mate

I bet you don't haveb a clue about football, I can tell with stupid comments like that.

Grow up.

MJ


And what team do you support? My guess is you watch Roma every week on the Internet which led you to air your very balanced and controlled assessment of our new players abilities.
And exectly how do you know how much money LFC have to spend - I can only guess you have text that during your first year English lesson.


Well i think your the clueless one, if Rodgers want Borini that's good enough for me and the lad will get my full support, as he should from every Liverpool fan.

always a red


How do you know he is crap? Have you seen him play? Have you not heard of give the bloke a chance? If you are a Liverpool supporter, try supporting the club!


Oh LFC missed a trick not employing you as the new manager we'd have been sorted ha ha who ever you are

awe nz


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:19:09
Liverpool have had a bid accepted for Fabio borini ssn
Murray


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:17:25
I for one am delighted Aqualina is staying at Liverpool, his agent has reiterated this several times. If he is fit, he should fit into Brendan Rodgers system well and could potentially be like a new signing. I would love to see him sit behind the forwards and be the creative spark with his quick inter linking passing and game intelligence. At present, Suarez is the only player in the side who offers us something different. If we add Borini too, we have three players who can change a game in very different ways! (all the tops teams have these type of player but pay in excess of 20 million!). I personally think this is were we strugggled last season as we over relied on Suarez. We now have a poacher, an intelligent passer and a magician...we also possibly have Dempsey to come in too, who offers us versatility in midfield, mental toughness, resilience, good dribbling skills and a knack for popping up in the right palce at the right time to score goals. A player who at 29 is at the peak of his career (23 goals last season!). And you are telling me Brenden Rodgers does not know what he's doing......


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:14:11
Borini in liverpool!! aquaman staying!! carroll staying!! 2 more signings and we will be done!! bring on the season i would love to see us playing like we did with macmanaman, redknapp, fowler, macateer and barnes!! even if we do fnish 5th


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:12:08
Just broke on sly news roma accept bid from liverpool for borini please post this asap as I would like other people to know


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:11:18
Borini in bag at last took forever


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:59:51
Well borini having his medical today isn't the striker I was hoping for very average player. Hope Carroll stays I'm sure he will come good this season. As for dempsey signing its just a marketing ploy by FSG nothing to do with his talent and goes against the FSG policy on young players.


And of course his ability to not 23 goals a season.

Please shut up he will be a great signing.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:23:46
This is all you need to know about Borini to take him to your hearts fellow reds....

"In Italy it means you've got the knife between your teeth – it's when you want to achieve something so badly that you are angry to reach your goals."

I like him already. Coupled with the fact that this guy knows where the goal is, we should all be happy he's joining.

The captain


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:08:53
Borini agrees move!!
Due a medical, Definately EXCITED :D
RedSox69


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:04:11
just read from my country media that deal about borrini has fixed. about 12m pounds. YNWA.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:02:54
I heard two names mentioned last night, Huntelaar and Draxler. Draxler is certainly a strange name to be getting spoken of, i dont think too many people are aware of him, i am certainly not. and i think Huntelaar gets mentioned almost every week on this sight for Liverpool. make of it what you will. probably bs


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:01:00
Liverpool have agreed a fee with Roma for striker Fabio Borini and the player has arrived on Merseyside to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms, according to the Press Association
BBC


 

 

13 Jul 2012 10:00:29
On the 3rd June the Bleacher Report said that Dempsey would join LFC. Borrini was reported as joining LFC in the Guardian on 22nd June and the Joe Allen rumour has been doing the rounds since January. As for stadium naming rights, it was claimed Air China or China Air would sign up, but that wouls really annoy Garuda. This four in and four out is nonsense, BR will let go of two players (not including Dirk) and bring in three (possibly four), three of the reserve squad will train full time with first squad and Andy is not going anywhere. I don't care if anyone believes me, but this comes from very, very, very reliable ex player, who is currently working with LFC.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:58:42
Are Liverpool REALLY in talks about Torres coming back? I do hope so, Suarez, Borini & Torres would be quality.... But I can't see it myself!
Cheers {Ed029's Note - No, where did you hear this?}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:57:16
Does anyone think that the deals for ibrahimovic and silva from Milan to psg area bit odd?
Why would they sell their best players for a seemingly low amount of money-they rejected a £37million offer for silva previously and ibrahimovic should be worth more considering his goal scoring last season.
Tevez will go to Milan and they may well come in for big andy on loan
Borini done today
Bean {Ed029's Note - I think AC Milan are trying to rejuvenate an aging squad and could do with the money so they have taken what they think is a good deal}


Ibra have a attitude problem, his wage is too high too. and don't forget his age too. But T.Silva is a class . Milan make money as Berlusconi will run for next election.

r-r


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:25:42
To ed029. What do you mean When you say that you cant see Torres ever comming back? Do you know something special? :) brgds Liverpool sweede {Ed029's Note - No, I just mean the way that he left etc. If he doesn't make it at Chelsea (as their first choice striker) I can see him going back to Spain}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:49:37
Its just been on radio city that borini is expected to complete his medical today after we've agreed an £11m fee with Roma. Pretty much common knowledge that he's going to be a red soon but to me that seems like confirmation.
T bone.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:45:19
I think we will sign borini Allen and Dempsey and that they will v.good signings and that we will sell maxi as we all know and Adam and spearing as they aren't as good as the rest of our central midfield options and we need to free up space I also believe that we may need a backup winger maybe afellay or hoilett because I think downing may get sold if a suitable bid comes in and that wld leave us wiv only sterling and Bellamy as our proper wingers.
Your thoughts eds
Love the site


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:45:02
Hi Ed i want to know did borini deal is completed or some way from completion. And what u reckon about carrol. And what is ur thoughts on possible signings of dempsey allen sturidge. Will they sign r nt.
Thanx.
Great work keep it up. {Ed002's Note - It is not completed but I suspect soon will be.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:43:39
i cant believe some fans are criticising rodgers for pursuing borini and dempsey. Look at newcastle when they bought cabaye, cisse and ba for £15mil altogether.. and now look theyre turning into stars. We are liverpool football club, we make stars we dont buy them!! e.g torres, reina, alonso, mascherano, gerrard etc. -


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:42:34
Borini was in Italian Euro 2012 Squad so he have the quality in him for sure. as Prandeli don't take any crap in his team.

red-don


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:42:24
Rodallega to Fulham...and the striker merry go round starts ! Dempsey in the hole thanks very much ! Tobiwan


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:41:41
Eds you think any signings likely to be confrimed for us today or you think more likely next week? Thanks

{Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:39:13
I am so glad the general opinion on Carroll has changed to us supporting him, he has a lot of potential and looks determined to play for us. I hope whoever we sign, we don't slate them for one bad game immediately as who knows what they could do in the future? I hope Carroll stays and proves to everyone why Dalgish bought him and why he was willing to move heaven and earth to get him (Don't forget Tottenham offered £28m for him so it's not just us who rated him).

I think also Milan will be selling Pato as he is on high wages aswell with Robinho, I don't think either of them will come to us and I hope Carroll doesn't go to AC.

As with Dempsey possibly signing, I don't think he's amazing quality but he had a great couple of seasons and an American player will certainly excite American fans. Buying players for that reason alone isn't enough but if he gets the goals and assists next season, he'll prove to be worth it (even if he's getting old).


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:37:52
Any truth in these rumours of Draxler EDS? I think this would be a fantastic signing for us. Along with Borini, Allen and Dempsey, I would be very excited for the new season! Also any more news on Bellamy?

Coily {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:35:47
Sorry for the copy paste. But interesting read.....

Borini keeps on running
Ahead of Fabio Borini's Italy bow, Scott Fleming recounts the tireless youngster's journey from West London to the Welsh Coast to the banks of the Tiber, with a knife between his teeth.

He never stops running. Watch the eight goals Fabio Borini has scored for Roma this season and you'll find almost all of them are the culmination of lung bursting runs. But he doesn't stop there. He doesn't catch his breath or accept the congratulations of his teammates, he keeps on running, as if he doesn't understand the game and isn't aware he's scored, like a little moustachioed Forrest Gump. He gallops off towards the sidelines, a big smile on his face, his right hand thrust between his teeth.

As celebrations go it's fairly naff, not quite as cool as Francesco Totti's thumb sucking or Pablo Osvaldo's machine gun routine, but it does provide us with some important insight if you're wondering what made Chelsea sign Borini when he was just 16 – or what has compelled Cesare Prandelli to give the now 20-year-old his first international call-up for Italy's friendly against the USA in Genoa.

"I've been planning that celebration for a long time," he said after scoring his first senior goals in March last year, a brace for Swansea versus Nottingham Forest. "In Italy it means you've got the knife between your teeth – it's when you want to achieve something so badly that you are angry to reach your goals."

Borini, who is a full three years younger than anyone else in the Azzurri squad for tomorrow's game, has had the good fortune to work with a bevy of respected Coaches in his short career to date, from Carlo Ancelotti to Brendan Rogers, Ciro Ferrara, Luis Enrique and now Prandelli, and not one of them has a bad thing to say about the boy from Bentivoglio.

If there's a theme to the praise lavished upon Borini by bosses past and present it's this – his mental qualities, hunger, passion, the 'knife between his teeth', distinguish him and promote him above more naturally gifted teammates. "I was left very impressed by his determination," says Prandelli.

"Fabio lives for goals, first and foremost he expects to score in every game he plays," commented Rodgers, whose Swansea side have been adulated for their attractive football in the Premier League, but might still be in the Championship if it wasn't for Borini, so influential was the young Italian in his two months on loan at the Welsh club. Rodgers, who had previously worked with Borini in his capacity as reserve team Coach at Chelsea, attempted to bring the Azzurrini forward back to the Liberty Stadium even after Parma's summer swoop, but the Roma deal was already done. Borini headed for the Eternal City before he'd made a single competitive appearance for the Gialloblu.

Signing for such a big club seemed premature, and the Bologna youth product was little more than a bit part player until Osvaldo was struck down by injury in January. Enrique could have drafted in former Barcelona colleague Bojan Krkic as a replacement. If it was just a matter of God given ability he would have. "Enrique can no longer do without the tireless running of Borini," declared the Gazzetta dello Sport after the Giallorossi's 4-0 victory over Inter at the start of the month. "He ran himself into the ground and did the work of two players." That game was Borini's breakthrough, he scored two splendid goals and left Inter's defenders Lucio and Walter Samuel wheezing and reaching for their zimmer frames.

His style of play is old fashioned, as is his hair, his moustache, even his position – not quite a winger, not quite a forward, more of a wing forward. But while Borini may lack Bojan's sophistication he more than makes up for it with good old-fashioned graft. And that's what makes him arguably the most exciting player Italy have produced since the man whose place he has took in Prandelli's squad, Mario Balotelli.

Sunny


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:29:59
Seen Tottenham have been linked with Atletico Madrid's Adrian, is it true the release clause is £16m?

He impressed me at the Euro U21s before his move to Madrid, and in the 2nd half of last season looked a really good player.

Could Liverpool be interested in the player?

RedSG {Ed002's Note - Adrian Lopez was of interest to Arsenal but with Podolski and most likely Giroud arriving I would expect that interest to have waned. Spurs interest in the player remains.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:20:25
one of the eds said that suarez was loosing lfc a lot of money because of the incident with evera, and that we would get rid of him. {Ed005's Note - Suarez won't be leaving mate - he is negotiating a new contract and Brendan Rodgers has said that talks are going very well and Suarez is happy and wants to stay.} whats going on


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:19:57
To all saying we need big name signings? Well we've already got them in Gerrard,Suarez,Agger,Reina,Lucas a nucleas of big name players that would get in a premiership select 11 any day of the week and Johnson,Kelly,Enrique,Skyrtel,Coates,Henderson and Adam are not too shoddy either and then there's a crop of really talented youngsters on the verge of making the breakthrough.
So ease up on the moaning: Rodgers is trying to back up the quality we already have with just the right players to create a good blend imo. So I'm happy to get Borini,Dempsey and Allen.
We all want the same thing "Success!" and no one wants it more than Manager and players so just give your support and stop moaning.
kidmillions


Maybe stop moaning about people moaning mate?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:09:59

Suarez is a very tenacious type of player. Won't let his man settle or relax for a second. From what I've seen of Dempsey, he's also quite 'in your face'. I remember him squaring up to one of our lads last season. He's an all action type of player. I've seen little of Borini, but a mate who is a Swansea fan reckons he is of a similar ilk. All three of them (assuming we do get Dempsey!) would give any defenders a tough time. If you throw Carroll in the mix, there's alot for the opposition to worry about. Pressing high up the pitch should come naturally for those players, and should make us hard to play against.

Nick


Dempsey was superb against us last year. A man on a mission -

He sums up some admirable traits that are inherent to what I see as a very uniquely American attitude/approach to 'soccer'.

He has great work ethic, he is a team player - and he is very, very competitive - never say die - a battler. He is always totally psyched - as a yank might say.

Unsure if he will really sign - but if Downing was to pull out of a 50-50 challenge next year in the presence of him - the thought of Dempsey giving him a piece of his mind is somewhat amusing.

He would be a great example to the others in terms of what is expected in terms of work-rate. Borini has a good reputation for working hard too - as does Allen. This is a common theme in our supposed targets - and I like it.

BJH YNWA (He can play a bit too. Assured in possession, clever and as brave as anyone on the pitch. His game is not about pace, but clever movement. IF we sign him - It's not glamerous, but I feel he can certainly improve our starting XI, whilst his versatility is also a plus. He could become a real hit - look what Gary Mac did at 35!)

ps - If he signed for 3 years, we'll get a lot of good value. It's not a computer game like football manager, where a 3 year stay seems like a week. He has a lot to offer for (actual) years to come! He's only 29!

pps - He can finish too - and is a real aeriel threat on set-pieces. We can aim to play like Barca - but why not pose more of an aerial threat on set-pieces too!

lol. Why not I say... It would be a laugh to hear some USA! USA! USA! USA! chants at Anfield too. lol.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 09:00:31
Personally I don't think Milan will take Carroll, there seems to only be Pier Silvio who is interested. The sale of Thiago Silva frees up a non-eu squad place and I think they are more likely to turn to a south american player for their striker, possibly revisiting their interest in Tevez

Nevada


 

 

13 Jul 2012 08:58:25

Hi Eds

The dailymirrior reporting 12m fee agreed for borini.Good signing hopefully we keep andy aswell.Tommy Irish Red.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 08:52:08
Any news on Downing to QPR rumours? {Ed002's Note - I have no knowledge of the matter.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 08:32:49
i really dont think dempsey will be a good signing, he will be another kuyt ok but nothing special, anything above 5mil for him is a waste


I would agree if his goals this season had been scored in another league, however he has scored against top opponents in the league, and been really consistent. I agree that the thought of signing Dempsey does not set me alight with excitement, however we could really use a consistent goal scorer...he has sccored more goals in our league than many of our supposed targets have in their own leagues. There is a minimal amount of risk with signing Dempsey, he wont need time to adapt or anything like that and he has played the majority of our opponents before. Signing a top draw player from another league might be exciting, but if they flop, LFC would have paid more for them, and supporters will have to deal with the disappointment. I know players like Downing, Adam etc were playing in the EPL before, but Fulham weren't that far behind us this year. Dempsey will improve the squad, and hopefully bring us some much needed goals. Have some faith, the window isn't nearly closed yet, and anything can happen :-)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 08:26:33
Announcement day is here!

...I think it is anyway...


 

 

13 Jul 2012 08:11:25
A team player and model pro:

What Liverpool can expect from Fabio Borini

- by Italian football expert Mina Rzouki


He's still a boy off the pitch but can be the man for Brendan Rodgers on it, says our Serie A ace

Off the pitch it is evident that Liverpool target Fabio Borini is still a very young man. Reserved and softly spoken, his mannerisms regularly betray him revealing a nervous edge. Looking away as he answers his questions, his personal life guarded with ferociousness.

On the field however, we see the other side of the hungry striker. "I like his anger," Carlo Ancelotti grinned as he described the young Italian he used to manage at Chelsea. "His meanness, and his desire to always be the first on the ball."

As a player, Borini is the poster child for dedication and commitment. For him, football is simply not a game to enjoy but rather a profession to master. It is this precise determination to succeed that has seen Borini establish himself both at club and international level. Perhaps the precise reason why, as a youngster, he often deliberated over his decision to be a footballer. How much will he have to sacrifice to be the very best?

Born into a family of athletes, Borini knew he had to be a sportsman. His father Roberto ran the 400 metres races at an amateur level, his sister Gloria was a long jumper whilst his mother Cynthia regularly partook in marathons. Sport was the answer and Fabio entered the world of football becoming a youth product of Bologna, the football club he and his family supported.

Determined but rarely spectacular, Borini always played alongside someone who appeared to be better than him. Yet despite his relative mediocrity, it was difficult to ignore his predatory nature and his instinct for goal. So much so that Chelsea came knocking.

Leaving his country and his family behind, Borini came to England and the sacrifices for his profession had begun. He often spoke of loneliness, of the difficulty in settling into a country he felt to be so different to his own but gradually he began to enjoy it. He took up cooking lessons, trained heavily and quickly became the first choice striker for the Chelsea reserve team before scoring 10 goals in 11 games the next year to finish as top scorer.

Borini's eye for a goal and his great finishing demanded attention. "At Chelsea, Ancelotti defined me as a nuisance like [Filippo] Inzaghi," he recalls. Displaying the same hunger for goal and the same lethality in the box, Borini was a little Inzaghi but to describe his as just a goal scorer is simply an injustice.

Tactically flexible, the ex-Chelsea player can play any position in attack, on the left, through the middle or on the right. He can play as the centre forward or as a second striker as he can exploit his pace and willingness to uncover space when deployed in a more withdrawn role. Additionally, his sacrificial nature sees him eager to provide for the side when out of possession whilst statistically, he produced more tackles than any other attacking player for Roma last season.

His overall game combined with his intensity intrigued Ancelotti, who offered him the chance to form part of Chelsea's Champions League squad. The Italian Coach always smiled when he recalled the boy, explaining to la Gazzetta dello Sport how the 17-year-old ordered his teammates to turn off the stereo that was pumping rap music, as it always did before every game. "I need silence to concentrate!"

It's perhaps interesting to note than when asked what was the most important lesson he learned as a young footballer, Borini replied: "In the locker room, the newcomer should always be quiet. In the beginning I used to just say what I thought."

The striker was loaned out to Swansea where he scored six goals in 12 matches, Parma than decided to bring Borini back to Italy in the summer of 2011 before loaning him out to Roma, who had just embarked on a new project with Luis Enrique at the helm.

Under the Spaniard, Borini developed his game even further and, despite fierce competition from Roma's vast array of attacking talent, the young striker grabbed the many chances he was offered to exhibit his talent. His undeniable technique, his work off the ball and his pressing game proved invaluable for Roma and his devastating performances against Claudio Ranieri's Inter side and Palermo allowed his team to accumulate much needed points at a time in which they were fighting for a spot in Europe.

So what can he bring to Brendan Rodgers' Liverpool side? Fiercely competitive and eager to impose himself, Borini is curiously calm under pressure and hardly ever intimidated regardless of the amount of stars he has played alongside. Aware of his quality, his insatiable right foot and the ability to score goals, he finished last season as Roma's second highest goal-scorer.

Despite his many qualities, though, Borini is very much a boy whose talents require refinement. The easiest Roma player to be dispossessed, he struggles for control at times and his natural inclination to always play the ball to feet makes has seen him fail in his attempts to provide crosses to the middle. Curiously Liverpool were statistically the most successful side in the Premier League last season in terms of crossing ability but Rodgers' Swansea side were one of the poorest.

What Liverpool can expect, should they manage to complete the deal, is a team player and a model professional. Borini may be reserved off the pitch and uninterested in joining his teammates on nights out but on the pitch, he will do all he can to provide them with what they need to drive their team forward.

timmo


After reading this i stil cant see why we would pay £11 mil for a guy who was easily dispossesd in the roma team and the fact his mediocrity stands out, couldnt we get him for the same price as chicarito, as he is similar in style. 11 mil is too much for someone unProven, do we ever learn? RedTurk


Thanks for posting this, the more I hear about him the happier I am he is (hopefully) coming here. I think Borini and Suarez would be awesome upfront. It seemed last season that Suarez would do all the hard work, taking the ball past players, and then to have no one to pass to...looking forward to it personally


Is that what stood out to you in that article RedTurk? That he is mediocre? That's not what I read. He sounds like a real prospect to me, with alot of heart, and knows that he can still improve. Also he has lived in the uk before, so he should acclimatise well. I also like his apparent versatility, with ability to play just about anywhere. Looks like he isn't scared to get stuck in a bit also. As I said, a real prospect.

Nick


After reading another comment from Redturk i'm beginning to wonder if he is secretly a Blueturk?
relentless misery on here from him.


RedTurk - You really are an idiot. He's an Italian International.

'His mediocrity stands out'. Good lord..

BJH YNWA (I just posted asking what you thought about Borini before I read this... don't bother replying. I'll learn nothing. No-one will listening to you tbh.)


Thanks for the post Timmo bw. Appreciate it.

BJH YNWA


 

 

13 Jul 2012 08:06:23
Hey ed's I think your doin a great job so keep up the great work!

I think we should offer Andy Carroll and 5mil for alexandre Pato as he never seems to get a game at Milan. Has he done something wrong? because he is a very talented footballer! {Ed002's Note - He has had a fair amount of injuries meaning he was not available to be picked much of the time.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 08:00:41
Just in case there is a remote chance that you read this site Mr Rodgers, I have to tell you that before all the transfer kitty goes I watched every kick of last season and Liverpool need a winger who can beat a man and cross a football.


We would have won so many more games, especially at home if we had someone to do this.

Keeping the ball wasn't the problem.

Gazman


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:56:46
The four players in are; Borini, Walcott, Ramirez and Allen.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:50:51
12 Jul 2012 22:47:45
Look at the players we are buying. I use to care but now you just have to laugh as we are the stupidest club in England. We have went from targeting soldado Munian and susaeta to targeting Rodgers mates as he probably thinks Allen and borini will be good for a bit of banter about the dressing room. Don't get annoyed people as we are a work in progress for only about 20 years. Lol.


And who actually said we were targetting Soldado, Munian, Suseata etc - oh, yes - the media, did KK say that? - NO, has BR said it? - NO.
Fact is journalists make up stories hoping they get one out of 100 right making them look as if they have close contacts within a particular club.
But alas, some supporters fall for it and complain non stop about players we have missed out on, and ones that we should be going for - we, as supporters really know nothing about what goes on behind the very closely sealed doors of LFC.

John B {Ed002's Note - I can't imagine the media saying anything about Liverpool having Muniain as a target unless they picked it up from here. I suspect his name will be back to the fore with a number of clubs after the Olympics. Certainly Liverpool did show some interest in Soldado as did Napoli, Milan and PSG. However, Valencia wanted him to stay and he has signed a new deal. Susaeta was another player that Liverpool took a look at from a "scouting" perspective earlier in the season. I think your view of the press is rather a long way from being correct in these cases.}


How do you know we were targetting those players? Stop bloody whinging, if you hate it that much there is one club up north and one down south that are buying there success as we speak...


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:41:48
Boss is currently talking to Maxi and has asked him to stay on at liverpool!
Great news IMO, always liked Maxi.
YNWA
SSRED11


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:38:04
First time post just a though with ibrahimovizc going to PSG it is quite possible Carroll will be going to Milan


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:33:04
Aqualani is staying. If people researched before they posted they would realise that his agent has said he will be a liverpool player, at least for the 2012/13 season. Quick mquestion for the eds... has a deal for Borini actually been agreed?
Great site by the way,

TheRedWire {Ed002's Note - Efforts will be made to move Aquilani on - staying is the last resort. I don't know if Borini has agreed to the deal yet.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:32:21
Seen borini a number of times and most of the games he has been poor. No way is he strong enough for the PL Rodgers has been looking in poundland for players


Yeah 9 goals last season aged 20 for Roma in the Italian Premier division, is a shocking return.

GET REAL !


And for 11 mil, couldnt we get better? RedTurk


Troll troll troll troll troll troll troll.... Troll on and enjoy your school Holidays

The captain


Who could we get better for £11m then Red Turk? Have you watched Borini play lots to make an assumption?

What about getting behind the player rather than negative comments before he has even kicked a ball for LFC?

CoolhandLFC


Are you in favour of signing Borini RedTurk? I am unsure judging by your comment - I'm curious...

BJH YNWA (£11m for a 21 year old Italian international striker with a close to 1 in 2 record is a damned bargain as far as I'm concerned btw. Are you in favour? If not - what player of a higher pedigree and with more potential could we get for £11m? Cheers.)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:29:44
Eds,
Is there any possibilities that Aquilani will stay if we success buying Fabio Borini.

Heard we get Borini for 11M. Is it true?

Thanks Eds.

Kimi'LFC {Ed002's Note - Aquilani staying or going has nothing to do with Borini.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:28:44
i know alot of you think br will sell the likes of adam,spearing,aqua but br set up is mainly midfield type players. witch i can see adam being a big part of due to how well he can pass the ball pretty much the same as aqua. i dont see him getting rid of the likes of spearing and to be honest i hope not. he is a good young player and is lfc through and through. i can see why he wants that allen. someone that he knows that can fit striaght into his team. my only concern is the likes of suso that has been playing pretty much the same roll for the under19s and has look good. will be pushed down the pecking order.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:24:57
Hi eds and people I'm not in the know whatsoever I'm from Bradford and friends with a golfer whos best freind is Tom cleverly off of spam anyways I was talking to my golfer freind yest and he said that he got told theo maybe at Liverpool soon thought I'd share thanks. DB PEACE OUT


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:05:57
Straight swap; Carroll for Pato(the exciting Brazilian).


 

 

13 Jul 2012 07:03:49
I think some of you Liverpool fans need to get back into reality saying Carroll to Milan they ain't gonna buy/loan him and it's made up rumours!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 06:37:22
Hey Ed's , doesn't liverpool still have that 12 million pounds from the miereles fee ? no one is ripping that out , i don't think liverpool is strapped for cash i think its the other way around. {Ed002's Note - You think it slipped down behind the sofa?}


Erm we paid 12m for him also, have you forgotten !

GET REAL


 

 

13 Jul 2012 06:33:40
Hi Eds,

Do you think if Carrol is sold, we would go for another striker or do you think BR would be happy Borini, Suarez and Dempsey as enough cover? Considering he would play with a front 3 I think it might not be enough, but who a I to say..

Fifa King {Ed002's Note - I suspect a winger will arrive. If players leave and there is no natural replacement in the squad I would expect someone to be brought in.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 01:25:50
eds, please post and respond.
do you see a proper winger coming in?
and if we sign borini and dempsey, and carrol goes, are they enough or will we get a replacement for carrolls place? {Ed002's Note - I suspect a winger will arrive. If players leave and there is no natural replacement in the squad I would expect someone to be brought in.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 06:29:45
I have lived in the USA for 10yrs, when I first arrived most people could not care less about soccer. Its totally different today and there are a lot of people who have an interest but not really a team they follow. I was surprised when two of my work colleagues said if we sign Dempsey they will follow Liverpool, got me thinking about how many more people would do the same and the added benefits of Dempsey.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 06:06:00
cheers to all the eds especially ed002 (you crack me up ALMOST every day haha) just a quick question, why does the fa make it so hard for non european players to play in the premier league (i.e. only work permits for international players/exceptional circumstances) when other european leagues allow players from any country to join no matter what? if im misinformed then please set me straight

JakeSaysRelax {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the FA - it is a matter for Home Office (in determining the rules) and the Border and Immigration Agency in issuing the paperwork. Other countries have different rules from very relaxed to stringent.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 05:30:57
Just a thought. If all theese rumours about Milan wanting Reina as a replacement for the ageing Abbiati. Maybe an 'exciting keeper' is on his way Now I'm not saying any of this is true or is happening but how about Ter-Stegen. Wouldn't cost more than Reina (I think) he's pretty exciting. And surely he wouldn't be staying at Borrusia M..? For much longer. A keeper of his quality and age will surely be brought by a quality club sooner or later??

Also just to make sure everybody knows NOTHING is set in stone yet we don't know if Borini is on his way we don't know if Sturridge or Moses or Hoilett or Tello or Dempsey will be a Liverpool player come the 1st September all we know is that Rodgers rates Borini. That's the only actual bit of news I've seen on the news (TV). And just to make things clear Liverpool can't get a Swansea player until next summe transfe market. It was on Rodgers contract so don't expect Allen to join us. (otherwise I'm sure others like Sinclair or Dyer may have been linked).

And finally I just wanna say that Carroll was admired by Dalglish much more than he is by Rodgers so there is still a possibility that Carroll will go. Especially if Borini does come in.


If Andy Carroll was admired by Dalglish, he would have played a lot more, got his confidence much earlier and maybe we would have been closer to where we belong - fighting for the title - just change most of the home draws into the wins that they should have been - and the ridiculous home defeats by Fulham, WBA and Wigan - Liverpool dropped 30 points at home last season City dropped 2, Utd dropped 8. Hard to believe about LFC at Anfield last year 57 points available - we got 27. And our £35 million started only 23 games and finished only 18.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 04:20:53
Morning Guys and Eds

I understand last season we needed more attacking down both wings which we expected from Downing (played on his weaker side unfortunately) but with BR liking the 4 3 3 formation wouldn't the likes of Downing, Bellamy covered by Sterling be ideal? If we were to play big Andy down the middle with the possibility of Suarez playing wider and cutting in as he does this could work. I realise this depends on how much time Sterling gets and whether Bellamy leaves (one more season hopefully)etc.
Saying all this but I would like an exciting winger to come in as it would show some real intent and a buzz around the squad.
I believe BR is the right man and looking forward to the new season.
Bobbo 75


Not 'wingers though' - just call them inside-forwards - or forwards & I do agree totally. To seem it may seem like semantics - but we will not play with 'wingers'.

Wingers play on the wing.

BJH YNWA


If we won't be playing with wingers why is it everyone on here is going on about buying one? I understand big Andy needs the supply but quick Inside forwards should be able to beat a man ie Bellamy/Downing(actually thought that he was winger)and put a decent ball in right?
Bobbo75
Bobbo75


 

 

13 Jul 2012 03:59:09
Question for the Eds or anyone

Do we know the size of the LFC scouting network? How many scouts do wehave? {Ed002's Note - THere will be several permanent employees responsible for scouting and then a network of people used on an ad hoc basis.}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:21:07
Hi eds, have you heard anything in regards Oscar cordozo? I've heard that Liverpool are considering making a 12 m pound offer. Also ed any word on Ramirez? Thanks, love the site! {Ed002's Note - Nothing at all.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 05:41:29
Hi Eds (Esp Liverpool supporters)/ Macca / Other Fellow Reds...

What is your personal Opinion on Carrol as a player, (Turining a Blind on his fees as he did not control that) ..

According to me, he can be a good First XI / Sub in many games where we need to get physical and situations..

-- BhavRedz.. {Ed029's Note - Personally I like him and think he was beginning to show what he was capable of at the end of the season and his goal in the Euros}


I dont think he is good enough to be a Liverpool #9.


I agree, we should keep Carroll as he can give us options. He will only get better and he can change games, look at the FA Cup final.
Tizer red


Was really looking foreword to see the big man in action.Thought he was deadly near the end of the the season&a cracker of a goal in the Euro's.I for one will be very disapointed if he goes.But whatever happen's for whatever reason we should ALL back BR.....Cheer's all,YNWA!!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 05:21:50
"Exciting and the fans will love him" Not Michael Owen surely ? {Ed029's Note - Definitely not Michael Owen as not only would that not be exciting but the fans would not love him either!}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 04:20:49
Eds.. Just wonderin.. IYO Do we have any1 on the the team who has the potential to be our next captain or could it b possible we are looking for one.. Or stevie still got a gd few left in him n not even bothered yet..? {Ed029's Note - In my opinion Agger would be a great captain once Stevie G hangs up his boots}


Excellent choice, Agger. Very composed and a leader at the back!
I think Lucas could get a shout in a couple of years too.
RedSox69


Agger as captain and Lucas as vice captain

Red Raw


 

 

13 Jul 2012 04:42:05
everyone says forget about the 35m we paid for carroll etc etc......get off his back

now that fee's of £15m are quoted those same people as crying saying that would be a stupid move seeing as we paid 35m for him.

LET HIM LEAVE!!

I mean Rodgers sooner admitted that he wants Maxi to stay, & yet avoided answering the Carroll Question straight. IT SAYS IT ALL


If there's but a few things i've learned in my lifetime.
It's; That saying nothing, very rarely means "saying it all".
Assumptions can be dangerous;
And don't jump to conclusions.

All very strong pieces of advice, and for good reason.

Red7.


AC was a waste of money, only reason we getting offered around 15mil for him is because we paid 35mil. He is a 10mil man at best we should cut our losses n move on.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 03:30:07
People saying about borini who is he trust lfc fans what a great striker we got same type of suarez style everyone from swansea which where i live calls him the italian suarez im massive on liverpool i also like the swans because its my home team the swansea fans loved him sure should we love him. So please some of the lfc fans dont call over the players that BR bringing in because he doing it for the best. And sorry burr andy carrol got to go he will not suit the way lfc are going to play. Just think the 70s and 80s people rushy and the king know one could get the ball off us would we love to see lfc do that again rule if you think im right get behind BR. come on brendan show some of the lfc fans wrong. YNWA


A suarez style striker does not score goals in the EPL {Ed029's Note - Well Suarez did and he missed 8 PL games. I expect him to be even better this year}


I'm from Swansea and NO ONE calls Borini the Italian Suarez! Borini works hard, has good movement, but is a totally different sort of player to Suarez.

Raoul


 

 

13 Jul 2012 03:21:27
Ok, the FSG website works the same way is the LFC website people. The news stories still come from outside sources and have nothing to do with the companys website.

Get it? Got it? Good!


 

 

13 Jul 2012 02:50:37
Hi guys/gals/eds, My wish is that whoever we sign this transfare window is that they pass the ball to their team mates(very important) not like our big name england team and when they have the chance put the ball in the back of the net,not to much to expect when you think about it or is that too much to wish for.(godin)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 02:32:01
I do like the "Knife between the teeth" celebration Borini does. Read an article on all of the places he has gone to get to where he is now and wanted it so bad he did it with a knife between his teeth. Thats pretty cool. I am glad for him I hope that he does well and enjoys it. Welcome to LFC.

Coley


Is that what that means? I was always wondering what the hell he was going on about... now i know. Cheers!

Red7.


 

 

13 Jul 2012 01:58:53
For those worried about us not signing any wingers, just remember what BR said to Sterling and Suso....."if you're good enough, you're old enough"
Need them both on the weight machines and protein powder and maybe they'll see some game time out wide this year.....

cozinoz


Suso is not a winger. He is a cm. Does it really matter if we dont sign wingers? Barca n citeh have shown u dont need natural width to be successful if ur central midfielders r good enough.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

13 Jul 2012 01:43:14
you posters are full of crap. i see the same people claiming the same thing over and over and over again, just trying to get "credibility" on your "sources."

i used to love this website, but all these posts shouldnt be posted -- like everyday. seriously. its a headache to read about the same person daily. wish this could happen, though i doubt it ):

thanks eds for your insights. {Ed016's Note - It's just silly season. Keep Calm, Chive on}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:03:46
out of ten eds how likely is carroll to leave on loan or permenantly 10 being definately going-

kbeez {Ed016's Note - A loan doesn't make sense, but we don't do the scale rating}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 20:30:13
Cuchiluahan(spelling) hound mate,

I visited banff, quite the place actually. I also stayed in lake Louise. That was marvelous. It is quite the tourist attraction ed16, me and my girlfriend couldn't find a bit of privacy expect in the room.
AnfieldUSA

{Ed016's Note - Yeah, I am doing a road trip through the Rockies this summer. Beautiful there.}


Definitely AnfieldUSA mate, been up to Lake Louise too and loved it. Looking at getting down to BC sometime over the year and get some time down there as well. Ed016's got the right idea, a road trip through the Rockies, absolute breathtaking experience. I'm actually glad I moved to Calgary

Cuchulainn's Hounds


Ed 016, I lived in Calgary for a couple of years. Don't forget to include Kananaskis in your travels. Awesome spot.

Golden Ale {Ed016's Note - I will make sure to do that! Plan on spending a few days in Kelowna. Any reds on here living in Calgary should come check out the Liverpool supporters club. I'm there for most games.}


 

 

13 Jul 2012 01:31:36
Im pretty excited by Dempsey - I remember him when we played them last year and he had neat, quick one-touch football on the edge of the box and a commanding physical presence. He also knows where the onion bag is. He's in his prime right now and would be a solid inexpensive signing as well as helping us Spread the Red in the US.

I think a lot of people are worried we are not getting big name signings but we all know we would have been near the top of the table but for the woodwork last season. The basis of the team is already there and new arrivals simply need to fill the gaps in what we already have. Cavani and Hazard would be great but only if they fit the team model that Mr Rogers has in mind....otherwise we'll end up with a Veron, a Shevchenko or a blue Torres. Additionally, big egos on big wages could disrupt the team.

Let's trust in BR that he know what he wants, and which players are necessary to put his plan into action....and back them when they arrive.

- Dempsey, as I said, could improve any team.
- Borini is young, has great timing and knows how to shoot (Djibrl Cisse used to get near to the goal and close his eyes and welly it.....this lad picks his spot and shoots low and hard)
- Allen's stats speak for themselves and, if he can get past Lucas/Gerrard/Hendo/Shelvey for a spot in midfield, he'd be deserving of it.

I really enjoyed the football last year despite our final league position and don't see Kuyt, Aurelio, Maxi, and possibly Bellamy as a huge loss. But the 3 players above (if Macca is correct) is certainly an improvement on our out-going players as far as youth, passing and technique. We'd all like a Ramirez but not at the expense of the ethos. That's not to say we won't sign 'star' players but only if Mr Rogers believes they fit the overall jigsaw.
Bring on the new season

cozinoz


Cozinoz,
FYI, probably aught not say anything about "Spread the Red in the US." We didn't really play nice with the commies.

Coley


Cozinoz u speak the most truth out of the posters on here totally agree


You certainly did play nice with the commies (if by 'you' - you mean 'the US government' and by 'red' you mean 'Soviet Red') - despite what your educators/politicians may have told you.

A little thing called Yalta.... The capacity of people to believe in imagined histories is amazing.

BJH YNWA (never raised a hand against them - never mind fire a shot... 'Cold War' indeed.... okay, back to football... sorry)


 

 

13 Jul 2012 01:24:36
what happened to burak yilmaz as a possible replacement for carroll?


 

 

13 Jul 2012 01:14:37
I've been reading all the players interviews on LFC website and they all seem stoked to be training with the ball. Good to see it's going back to basics. Even after 7 weeks holidays the players will still be pretty fit so it's the touch with the ball that is lost.

Thats the way Liverpool have trained in the past. Train with the ball and you get fit playing matches. Too much is done with getting the players in peak fitness for the first game. Then they are knackered by the end of the season.

Gazza


 

 

13 Jul 2012 00:49:38
borini in now swap pato for caroll

suarez borini pato front 3 finALLY something to really get excited about {Ed001's Note - have you actually watched Pato play? Well, on the extremely rare occasion he is not injured, that is. Only he isn't all that good, certainly nothing to get excited about, I would rather we brought in no one than him.}


I doubt anybody has seen much of Pato, because he's played about 1.23 games in his entire career, but i agree with ed. However, if Milan agreed to release him, and the player himself was willing to come and play here for zero wages and cover his own medical costs, i'd have him...


I would be excited!!

pato is immense.!....you tell me that 61 goals in 142 games in the serie A & at the age 22 isn't good?

AC Milan will want Carroll now after agreeing to let Zlatan leave and would be willing to let pato go and we would be willing to take the exchange and Carroll would be willing to go to Milan because it's AC


ED, clearly you haven't used Pato on fifa ;)
HES A BEASTT

BADGER


Pato's injury record is as bad as aurelio's. Id rather have ngog back than sign that overhyped sicknote.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

13 Jul 2012 00:48:28
Brendan Rodgers is a genius sign borini to teach the other players how to say naughty words in italian so maxi goes on an absolute rampage making fun of aqua in training causing suarez to laugh and smile and sign a new contract :)
ET


 

 

13 Jul 2012 00:47:33
borini is in great deal, he ll run through brick walls to do well, good signing, now on to some more


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:54:05
Big Andy has to stay! Foolish to let him go now that his come good... All good teams have 4 quality strikers... Dempsey Suarez Carroll Borini! Mouth watering...


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:51:37
tell you what some people on here have a cheek to call the everton fans bitter, slaggin off players before we've even signed them. if borini signs i hope he scores a hat trick in his first game and goes on to bang in 30 goals this season but the worst thing is that wont even shut the clowns up coz you's will just move onto the next player we're linked with who isn't called cavani, ramirez or higuain and start to slaughter them before they even kick a ball for us. I bet you if we were trying to sign marko marin right now and chelsea had signed borini a couple months ago you would be on here saying "why the f*&k are we signing players like marin when chelsea have signed borini" you think that every player chelsea, city and utd sign are automatically superstars yet the players we're after are all diddys

I'd like to think you at least have the clubs best interests at heart so instead of bitching and moaning coz you don't get what YOU want how about doing whats best for the club and actually support them in what they are trying to do (which to be fair most people on here do) and at least see how it goes before turning on them like a bunch of rabid dogs


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:45:47
Hi eds/macca

Been with the site for a few years now, you all do a top class job in your own, different ways!

My question is for Macca and list post with the borini, Allen and Dempsey

I know I might be clutching at straws here but I will ask anyway...

Macca, when you say you're not sure on the 4th, is that, that you don't know at all? Or is it between a couple of players and ur not sure which one? If its the latter would you hazard a guess..

Once again love the site, top eds, top banter, long may it continue!!

Cheers

Ray


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:30:39
As hugo rodallega has been signed by Fulham, can we see Dempsey leaving anytime soon? Rodallega isnt really the same player but i suppose he could possibly replace Dempsey should he leave. I think he would be a great signing for LFC! His finishing is top notch and he would spread the LFC fan base over to America; not to mention he would be cheap!


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:17:49
So tired of reading the same negative posts not only on here but on numerous websites about the running of the club. FSG rescued us from those two clowns and have an obvious plan to slowly turn us back into the club we were made to be. It is and was never going to happen overnight. To the posters who claim that FSG are happy with us being a mid table team, ask yourselves, why on earth would they sack Kenny after a season where we won one trophy and got to another final? When we finished 8th?! Last season's league form wasn't acceptable, but at the same time doesn't reflect the quality of the squad at hand at all. I think with a few smart investments, we'll be on our way again, at the same time as playing football the way it was made to be played.

Have some belief in the team, the owners and Rodgers, there are always going to be bad patches, for any club, but be confident that we are in the right hands and actually SUPPORT the team you're meant to support.

P.s I think Borini will be a fantastic addition.

GLfc


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:17:30
Can we all stop with the carroll rumours. The lad is on hos way to being top top notch. To have a player that can be unplayable on his day, english, and only 23 we would have to be either crazy or stupid to let him. Also, we only have 2 strikers, with borini coming in that makes 3. This is the minimum any club needs. So stop with the stupid rumours and get behind big andy. All you doubters will be singing his praise and jumping on the band wagon next season and into the future. Jayo


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:11:46
All this talk of transfers, i am getting concerned that we will not sign anyone especially this week as speculated.

Cannot see Dempsey, Borini signing at all. it will get to the stage that we will sign anyone just to say we have signed someone.

Hope i am wrong, but watch this space


What space? The one between your ears? Looks pretty darn empty......

Jigglypoof


You are wrong apprently borini has signed for lfc


Haha just as we actually agree the transfer for Borini with Roma. Seems it's an utter waste of time hoping for patience from fans.

DP


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:10:53
Well I wasn't impressed at all upon hearing the names we are likely to sign; Borini, Dempsey nor Allen do not constitute the "exciting" signing we all expected.

However, after a bit of looking into the players, I am more confident that Rogers is buying the right players and finding value in the market.

Fabio Borini is a young (21) poacher type player, he can grab the goals we were crying out for last term. He starts ahead of Bojan, and has worked his way into the Italy setup. His young age means he will only grow, and under Rogers (who has managed him at both Chelsea reserves and Swansea) is there anyone better for his development?
Borini can help Suarez in one of our main aims - to win the ball high up the pitch. This is important; to win the ball closer to your opponents goal is an obvious advantage.
Carlo Ancelloti says "I like his anger, ... his meanness, and his desire to always be the first on the ball." Statistically speaking, Borini produced more tackles than any other attacking player for Roma last season. (Source = Mirror)

Joe Allen is another young (22) talent, also previously managed by Brendan Rogers. I'm sure you've heard it all before about his passing - 90.3% pass accuracy, which is damn good. Allen passing will help us to retain possession as a form of defence, another aim of Rogers' game.
The only negative aspect of this purchase I can see is the number of young, up and coming midfielders we already have at Liverpool. How would this signing influence the development of Shelvey, Henderson and Suso - given that we already have Gerrard, Lucas, Adam and Spearing also battling for places. To me it looks like there are few opportunities for playing time, although it is possible that one or more of these players leave.

Clint Dempsey (29) is the best US player today, and will draw in plenty more US fans and further build the global LFC brand. This is obviously good economically, but this is not just a business signing.
Dempsey is very versatile, he can play all across the front line and as an attacking midfielder. This will be useful in the event of injuries He only has 1 year left on his contract, so we should be able to get him for a good price. He also is hungry to play in the champions league, and I feel this would also motivate the players around him "I've always said I'm grateful for everything Fulham has done for me. Some of the best memories I have in soccer have been there. But the fact remains that I want to play in Champions League. I want to play at the highest level possible." (Source = NBC Sports)

In Dempsey and Borini, we have 2 hungry players.
Rogers knows Borini and Allen well due to previously coaching them. This will be good not only for their development, but also in terms of Rogers getting his tactics onto the pitch. Borini even likens Rogers to an uncle.
I see Dempsey and Borini as great signings, and Allen also a great one if he doesn't impact our current midfielders development.

P101


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:05:35
ok here are my thoughts on the situation at LFC at present.
I like what FSG have said and done so far, however, this is a crucial period of time. I'm thinking that they came in assuming that the financial fair play rules would level the playing field, but we all know that there are so many loopholes in that therefore the likes of city and chelsea will continue to splash vast sums of money, which FSG seem unwilling to do. Yes they spent heavily last summer, but i think net spend was approx 30mill since they came in. Take into account that they also got a worldwide institution on a knockdown price and i start to wonder.
My view is that this is the time to really ramp up their spending - something like 50million net spend is required to ensure top 4. Surely that is a comparatively small price to pay. They need to back the young manager and this is the time to do it as further years out of the champs league will undermine many attempts to get sponsorship for new stadium or redevelopment of Anfield. We cannot get champs league if we operate a system of austerity and refus to spend in the region of what the established top 4 or 5 spend. We run the risk of becoming a selling club unless they back up their ideas of ambition with cheques. I know this sounds harsh given that they rescued our club, but we move into a new phase now. Initially it was rescue and then stabailise (which was bringing in Kenny). Now it is time for Growth, which requires investment.
Give me abuse if you disagree, but i'm thinking many will share these views...??


Posted something pretty similar myself earlier today

tom1975


The club posted a loss of 50 million this year. Who paid for that? That's right FSG. To say they have only spent 30 million is ludicrous. How much did they pay to rescue this club form the idiots that owned this great club before them? They have spent a great deal more than most "supporters" give them credit for.

an american red


The liverpool way has never been go out and spend beond are means we make players great players dont make lfc great #####FACT#####


The 50 million loss was for stadium costs that should never have come to that much the drawings must be up there with the costs of a scream etc {Ed002's Note - Regardless, the owners picked up the tab. And they have paid a similar amount for the season just finished.}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:05:13
in football dont you always need a plan b so getting shut of andy caroll will probably be a big mistake just my opinion what do you think eds {Ed001's Note - we were already short of options up front, it makes little sense to let him go just yet.}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 23:01:23
Hiya Eds

As you know we are in the market for def mid backup for Lucas right so what do you think about us going for Tom Huddlestone(he's young'ish, can do a job and will come fairly cheap). How do you rate Huddlestone and what are our chances of landing him Ed?

Cape Town Red {Ed001's Note - he is slow, always injured, can't tackle, but he has a decent range of passing. Not good enough to improve us, even if he did stay fit and there is no interest in a player that barely plays.}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 22:58:06
it's irritating seeing clubs like psg, malaga, city and anzhi being so ambitious while we get left behind. don't buy LFC if you don't have the money to pay massive wages, which unfortunately is the most important thing to top players now


Then why don't you go support one of them instead? I prefer if we don't throw money around chasing success. Well Kenny and DC did it to a certain extent, and we still finished 8th.


 

 

12 Jul 2012 22:42:29
Borini,Dempsey,Allen,.... Signings really don't excite me but think b.r is realistic on who we can attract.I hear a right winger is still on his agenda but it won't be Johnson his wages are bigger than his ego.I for one think that the exciting signing that B R is talking about is himself,the guy has class written all over him.

Clee red


 

 

12 Jul 2012 22:41:58
Following on from what I posted regarding our transfer targets? Allen,Dempsey and Borini.
I must admit I too would like to see Ramirez at the club as I think he is a cracking player that could be worth at least double his £16m price tag in a couple of years. But that's easy for me to say.
Rodgers has come in to manage a club that has spent poorly over the last few seasons and as such has to be careful and clever in the transfer market.
Because we all know what mispent millions leads to? Still think the owners should dig deep for Ramirez though. Perhaps selling Downing and or Carroll could be the answer to that prayer.
kidmillions


 

 

12 Jul 2012 22:31:17
Don't care if we finish below the top 4 next season Br is the only manager that I've actually had faith in so all the fans get behind him and enjoy the football the more negative you get the more you bring the team down so don't worry be happy:). Redneck!


 

 

12 Jul 2012 21:17:13
Ed, apparently the Borini deal is done, do you know if this is true? Thanks {Ed005's Note - I don't think it is quite done yet but it seems to be very close.}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 21:11:31
hello ed!
Do you have any idea whose the fourth target Macca mentioned?

InMaccaWeTrust {Ed005's Note - No mate.}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 20:48:09
eds just seen that ibrahimovic and thiago silva have moved to psg according to milan do you think they could step up any interest in carroll?

Also mbaye niang is on trial with arsenal and he looks ike he could turn to into a real classy player considering hes only 17 do you think we could make a move for the player i think they have said they value him at 5 million or so?

Thanks {Ed005's Note - I think they'll step up in trying to get a suitable replacement for Ibrahimovic, who that will be is anyone's guess. Don't know much about Niang.}


 

 

12 Jul 2012 22:40:06
For all of you saying how great borini Dempsey and Allen are I wonder if I put them on a wish list about a month ago what the reaction would of been. I would have been slaughtered with people saying there not good enough but apparently they are now.


But see buddy thats loyal fans for ya well done lads.they are good enough from the minute they sign.. on that dotted line intentional rhyme every time


Being 'good enough' doesn't mean we should sign them. Veron was good enough for ManU, Joey Barton is (sometimes) good enough, and I hate to say it but Gary Neville was 'good enough'.

It's about:
a) whether they fit into BRs team structure
b) whether they want to come to Liverpool/England
c) whether they would be happy with the wages offered
d) whether their personality and temperament would fit in with the team
e) permits, passports, age, etc, etc, etc

Two of those are outstanding players in the respective Premiership teams and the other a striker for the International Euro finalists. They are good enough.

cozinoz


It's called getting behind your club mate - give it a go.

LIVERPRES


 

 

12 Jul 2012 22:34:03
Is anyone else worried that if there is no signing tomorrow the fans will be all over Rodgers? He has been relatively tight lipped over transfers. Maybe he should have sewed his lips together? We are all waiting on "exciting transfer". Just hope it happens.


 

 

 
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