Liverpool Banter Archive December 13 2010

 

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13 Dec 2010 23:47:40
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Not posted for a while but my thought is that babel was not good enough but then I thought its no wonder Torres has been a mardy lazy s* t most season babel has good game n scores n then gets dropped for Torres poor guy can do no right I believe Torres should be dropped for a few games see if that gets the point across if not sell him he's unhappy n playin poorly and it's beginning to do my head in surely I'm not the only one with this view. Babel and ngog upfront and eccelston on the right and Pacheco left

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13 Dec 2010 23:39:43
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Would we get 40m for Torres? I think so.

40m would get us Suarez AND Benzema. Would everyone prefer an exciting new partnership like this, or the Torres we have now?

Thanks for the memories El Nino, but all things must pass.

Agree?

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13 Dec 2010 23:21:40
Caller of the day: Jeremy. He absolutly smashed Roy.

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13 Dec 2010 23:21:26
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit since its aim is to belittle or hurt someone, and to laugh at their expense; we associate the word "cutting" with it.

So your idea Blair is to belittle the club the fans and the owners you are a true red

Now that's sarcasm (irony)

TC
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That was not the intention TC thank you for putting me straight.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Some people are so miserable. From what was a bit of humourous sarcasm has turned into a verbal attack, lol. Dont worry blair some people just don't like/ understand sarcasm. I always use sarcasm, a lot of people think im always serious but im only having a laugh like u mate!

Harry5:)))))
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As usual i agree with you Harry5 i think TC is either a student or psychiatrist. He has to be to dig so deep into one particular post. Or maybe he's a gardiner he seems to be pretty handy with a shovel who knows?

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. He's definitely single!

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13 Dec 2010 23:19:30
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Do you reckon centre back should be a priority area for us to strengthen in January after the performance against Newcastle and the lack of fitness of Carragher and Agger? And if so, who?

Ed? {ed's note - I would just bring back Ayala myself.}

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13 Dec 2010 23:12:42
13 Dec 2010 22:39:11
13 Dec 2010 22:30:53
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit since its aim is to belittle or hurt someone, and to laugh at their expense; we associate the word "cutting" with it.

So your idea Blair is to belittle the club the fans and the owners you are a true red

Now that's sarcasm (irony)

TC
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That was not the intention TC thank you for putting me straight.

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Some people are so miserable. From what was a bit of humourous sarcasm has turned into a verbal attack, lol. Dont worry blair some people just don't like/ understand sarcasm. I always use sarcasm, a lot of people think im always serious but im only having a laugh like u mate!

Harry5:)))))

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13 Dec 2010 23:11:11
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{ed's note - why would you want to hang on to Aurelio if you are spending that much money? He is only fit for one month in 3 at best.}

on aurelio i think he does have quality (well hes a damn sh*t better than flippin KONCH!) and hes cheap and easy to manage, maybe not much money to spend on more side backs.

any other thoughts on the other players ed?
thx, comments please.

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13 Dec 2010 23:08:57
My problem with the calls for bojan to liverpool has nothing to do with him really. I just feel that it would be mad to spend so much on a player when we have two similar players in the squad already. Pacheco and Suso are small, spanish, and creative. I would love to see these two playing before going out and getting another without any real certainty that we would even use him.

A lot of people on this site have been belittling Pacheco's performances this year but in truth they have been few and far between. I still think an extend run for him in the first XI would see him develop into a top class player. Why not play him just off Torres? I like Ngog but I think Pacheco has more of an upside and more potential.

Anfield Rapstar

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13 Dec 2010 23:02:20
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I would love us to go for some decent wingers, like Hazard, Sanchez, or Mata, but with Roy's lack of ambition the only winger I can see him going for is N'Zogbia. Not the worst player in the world, but he's hardly the man to move us forward as a club.

A winger won't be his priority though. Hodgson wants more steel at the back, so expect him to overpay for an overrated, one dimensional centreback, despite that being the one position on the pitch that we have a saturation of decent players (Skrtel, Agger, Soto, Kelly, Wilson, Ayala [if recalled], Carra).

Lastly, Hodgson will go for a "partner" to help Torres (funny how he needs a partner now, but hasn't in the past 3 years). I imagine Hodgson will look at big target men, who can win headers and hold the ball up.

His recent comments show his mentality.
"If we are going to improve upon our woeful away record it will be because we have become more physically and mentally stronger. We have to adopt a harder core to our performance and make us harder to beat and then we won't concede the type of goals when all the opposition goalkeeper has to do is kick a long ball into the heart of our defence and then there's a goal chance."
That's right Roy, it's not the lack of any creative attacking, it's that we don't have defenders that head the ball away. Also, it's not OUR away record, it's yours. You have 13 wins in 107 away games in England, and it's OUR problem. No wonder you're every managers friend, you lay down whenever you visit their ground.

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13 Dec 2010 23:00:50
13 Dec 2010 22:32:28
Ok, so Man Utd have Nani, Chelsea have Malouda, Spurs have Modric and VDV, Man City have Silva and Johnson whilst Arsenal have them in abundance. . I'm talking about the creative player. . where is ours? You could argue Cole is meant to be however I still believe we are someway short of competing due to this lack of talent. . who would you want in the team?
Steven Gerrard mate !?

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13 Dec 2010 22:59:24
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Ed. What's this about Liverpool making a 12.5 million pound bid for Suarez? {ed's note - it is a rumour, originating from English tabloid newspapers, I doubt there is any truth in it because of that.}
Ed what are you on about? it originated from Italian newspapers because Ac milan are willing to bid for suarez however the news came in that Liverpool have bidded for him and it was on NESN.COM so i do think its true in fact im 100% certain we have bidded wether we will land him im not too sure.

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13 Dec 2010 22:52:53
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Dont worry big sam as you said you should be managing Real or Barca.Im sure they will call, wait by the phone i hope you have a mobile cos if you have to wait at a phone box bad weathers coming later this week and i fear you maybe waiting a while.So wrap up warm you t* t!

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13 Dec 2010 22:51:34
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Sorted, Allardyce back to Bolton, then Hodgson back to Blackburn, and the best bit Owen Coyle to Anfield, . Everybody happy, and round pegs will be back in round holes as they should be.
Sorry Roy you are a decent man , but this job at LFC is too big for you and you know it.
Let Coyle have his head and we'll be ok soon as he gets his feet under.
Merry Xmas folks

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13 Dec 2010 22:49:42
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Speaking on a phone-in on LFC TV tonight, Werner said: "We just got here, Roy got here shortly before us. Nobody, least of all Roy, was happy with our performance last weekend. We have to perform better, especially on the road. We believe in what Roy is doing and we certainly feel like the performance has to improve, and he'd be the first to say that."

Werner and the new owner, John Henry, who bought the club through New England Sports Ventures in October, have been welcomed by Reds fans for bringing an end to the unpopular reign of fellow Americans Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

The future of Anfield is one of the key issues for the new executives, who are weighing up the pros and cons of a move to a new ground versus redeveloping the current stadium. "We certainly feel the need to do something, " said Werner. "Our intention is to increase our revenue so we can put the best possible squad together.

"We're hard at it, we've had a lot of meetings and we are moving forward with various options. It's too early to go in one direction or another in terms of whether or not to build a new stadium or refurbish Anfield, but we are making progress."

There have been reports a groundshare with Everton could be an option but Henry insisted that would be a non-starter if it did not have the support of the fans.

The Boston Red Sox chairman also addressed the issue of spending in the January transfer window, calling Liverpool's form over the last year "unacceptable".

"We're actively looking at it, " he said. "We don't quite know what the situation's going to be in January. It's our first transfer window and it's something we've been studying day and night.

"There's no doubt the play that has gone on this season, and for the last half of last season, is unacceptable for Liverpool to accomplish what it wants to accomplish. We're in sync with the fans with regard to what it's going to take for this club going forward."

andy irl

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13 Dec 2010 22:49:28
That is one of my major concerns. If Hodgson is kept on untill the summer we will not finish in the top 4. We might lose Torres, Reina etc if we don't have European football. With Hodgson in charge you can pretty much guarantee we won't finish 4th.

Hodgson needs to go now and not be allowed to spend money in January especially if NESV let him go in the summer. It just dosn't make sense for them to let him spend what funds are available in January if a new man is coming in the summer.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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My main concern would be convincing Torres, Reina etc. to stay at the club because I have conceded that we're not finishing in the top 4. But hopefully a change in management and the promise of quality players convinces them to stay.

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13 Dec 2010 22:46:25
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit since its aim is to belittle or hurt someone, and to laugh at their expense; we associate the word "cutting" with it.

So your idea Blair is to belittle the club the fans and the owners you are a true red

Now that's sarcasm (irony)

TC
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What does "irony" mean TC? Is that a cheap attempt at sarcasm?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 22:39:11
13 Dec 2010 22:30:53
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit since its aim is to belittle or hurt someone, and to laugh at their expense; we associate the word "cutting" with it.

So your idea Blair is to belittle the club the fans and the owners you are a true red

Now that's sarcasm (irony)

TC
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That was not the intention TC thank you for putting me straight.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 22:37:09
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Editor, Any news on Roy Hodgesons future?

{Editor's NOte: I am not sure what you are expecting - I expect he will be here until the end of the season.}

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13 Dec 2010 22:33:05
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Im now watching the phone in on LFC TV with Tom Werner and John Henry.

When asked directly about the manager, Werner shuffled and offered tentative support while not actually committing. .

Quote: "We are still learning. Roy just got here before us as well. We believe in what he is doing, but he would be the first to agree that results have to improve"

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

I think they can see the big picture, but its just a question of timing. He could have said he will certainly be here until the end of the season, but he didnt. He was being careful not to dig himself a hole.

Did anyone else read into this the same way? They all seem pretty miffed with results.

RG

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13 Dec 2010 22:32:28
Ok, so Man Utd have Nani, Chelsea have Malouda, Spurs have Modric and VDV, Man City have Silva and Johnson whilst Arsenal have them in abundance. . I'm talking about the creative player. . where is ours? You could argue Cole is meant to be however I still believe we are someway short of competing due to this lack of talent. . who would you want in the team?

Rosenthal

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13 Dec 2010 22:31:17
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13 Dec 2010 22:14:36
Don't be discouraged by the owners backing Roy tonight in the show. Backing Roy live on TV is the only thing they could do for the moment. And I'm sure they don't want to show disrespect to the man or making a fool of him while he is here. They are too professional to do so.

I'd be more concerned if they said something like "we want Roy here on the long-term" or "we want Roy to be here for the next 6 years" or "Roy is a big part of our plans" or just something like that. They haven't done that.

Even if Roy is here until the Summer, atleast it isn't for the next few years and if Torres, Reina and Gerrard decide to commit to the club then that would be a massive bonus. Especially as there is no major tournament and the new manager would get time to work with the players and get them fully fit and fully motovated.
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That is one of my major concerns. If Hodgson is kept on untill the summer we will not finish in the top 4. We might lose Torres, Reina etc if we don't have European football. With Hodgson in charge you can pretty much guarantee we won't finish 4th.

Hodgson needs to go now and not be allowed to spend money in January especially if NESV let him go in the summer. It just dosn't make sense for them to let him spend what funds are available in January if a new man is coming in the summer.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 22:30:53
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit since its aim is to belittle or hurt someone, and to laugh at their expense; we associate the word "cutting" with it.

So your idea Blair is to belittle the club the fans and the owners you are a true red

Now that's sarcasm (irony)

TC

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13 Dec 2010 22:14:36
Don't be discouraged by the owners backing Roy tonight in the show. Backing Roy live on TV is the only thing they could do for the moment. And I'm sure they don't want to show disrespect to the man or making a fool of him while he is here. They are too professional to do so.

I'd be more concerned if they said something like "we want Roy here on the long-term" or "we want Roy to be here for the next 6 years" or "Roy is a big part of our plans" or just something like that. They haven't done that.

Even if Roy is here until the Summer, atleast it isn't for the next few years and if Torres, Reina and Gerrard decide to commit to the club then that would be a massive bonus. Especially as there is no major tournament and the new manager would get time to work with the players and get them fully fit and fully motovated.

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13 Dec 2010 22:12:41
"Only scores against crap teams"

Such as Arsenal, Manchester United and Aston Villa. . Nice one

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13 Dec 2010 22:05:01
There appears to be quite a debate at the moment regarding the whole Rafa vs Roy issue.

The best way to look at it is to speak to your mates who support rival clubs - they will be full of praise for Roy, tell you he needs more time, it's the squad that's the issue, tell you that he is a great manager and will come good. Remember how they were with Rafa? They hated him, said he was the worst manager in the history of the game, said that he was a fat Spanish waiter who knew nothing about football.

This should tell you a story - I detest Ferguson with a passion. Why? Because he is a fantastic manager who has brought great success to our bitterest enemies. Now ask why all our rival fans hated Rafa so much?

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13 Dec 2010 21:52:58
A massive commitment from NESV to communicate with the fans as much as they have since they took over .

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13 Dec 2010 21:47:39
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Maybe Rooney is planing to piss off with Torres then again neither would be missed .

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13 Dec 2010 21:47:18
Am I the only person on this site who thinks Torres is playing awful - apart from Chelsea at home he has been shocking. I understand and agree we need a top quality striker to share the workload and goals, but his 1st touch is poor and he looks like he does not want to be here.
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yeah i agree hes been pretty bad but hes had alot of injures and played alot of football i think he is burnt out and its very hard to be on top of your game when your getting no service have faith i have, i do think he is unhappy but im unhappy your unhappy and i think most if not all liverpool fans are.
king henry

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13 Dec 2010 21:43:18
13 Dec 2010 21:33:27
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

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Pathetic little boy.
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I can't believe how many LFC fans have responded to my sarcastic post. Come on brethren you are smarter than that.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 21:43:07
David ngog.

Good points. Scored a few goals in the eufa cup. Cheap to get his name on your shirt.

Bad points. Only scores against crap teams in a crap euro competition, no skill, can't shoot straight, no power in shots, neither left or right footed cos he just does headers, no leadership qualities, sometimes looks like a startled fawn, doesn't lead the line or play of another striker, wouldn't get in any other prem league team, makes jovanavic look good, another poor foreign import.

Next up. . .Paul konchesky

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13 Dec 2010 21:43:02
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Am I the only person on this site who thinks Torres is playing awful - apart from Chelsea at home he has been shocking. I understand and agree we need a top quality striker to share the workload and goals, but his 1st touch is poor and he looks like he does not want to be here.
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no you are not the only one. i can remember when torres was the most feared striker in europe, excellent first touch, masterful running, i adored watching him play.
The player we see now is a mere shadow. how much longer can we constantly make excuses for him. oh he was injured at the world cup, he is short on match fitness, he is low on confidence, he just had a baby, the winds in a southerly direction.

He is getting very very well paid to do his job, which at the present time he isn't doing at all. and please don't start with the lack of service. yes the service hasnt been brilliant. but when he was playing at his best he came and got the ball and went past players like a ghost. now its almost like he can't control the damn ball

chris 1

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13 Dec 2010 21:37:52
NESV defo the way forward just need to realise roy isn't

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13 Dec 2010 21:37:47
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First Newcastle now Blackburn they say it comes in three's please let it be us. ROY next heres hoping.

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13 Dec 2010 21:35:53
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Am I the only person on this site who thinks Torres is playing awful - apart from Chelsea at home he has been shocking. I understand and agree we need a top quality striker to share the workload and goals, but his 1st touch is poor and he looks like he does not want to be here.

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13 Dec 2010 21:33:41
NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

With a post like the above you should be ashamed of using such an honourable handle.

Shame on you

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13 Dec 2010 21:33:30
13 Dec 2010 21:25:58
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

Blair, during the whole takeover thing I thoughT you were very good/ informative with your posts. However the above is just pathetic. . ur making yourself out to be no more than a school kid. NESV are/ will be good for LFC

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The post was a cheap attempt at sarcasm Rednose. Maybe you should ask Santa to bring you a sense of humour for christmas mate.

IF you failed to spot the sarcasm then who looks like a school kid now?

NA NA NA NA NA!

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 21:33:29
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Fed up of him now Roy hodgson needs to go. Nobody cam say we have performed well as we should be doing at any point this season. And in our Victories it has been boring wins with a lot of luck. We need a young creative manager who will take risks, buy decent players not ones Like konchesky and poulsen.

At the next game it's time we voice our opinion. Get hodgson out

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13 Dec 2010 21:33:27
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

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Pathetic little boy.

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13 Dec 2010 21:30:51
To Blair
13 Dec 2010 21:22:36
To be honest i think there have been a few "hardcore" supporters who have never really taken to roy or thought he was the right man. you ask the eds they must have been sick to death of my rants against him. but i am not sure i understand what you mean when you say convincing blair and the eds was the hardest, maybe i missed something but they have always seemed to regard roy as a short term measure. but i may be wrong

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I was on Roy's side at one time Chris. He lost me not just with his negative tactics but his stupid comments. I had enough after the Everton game and his post match comments he said "I think in the 2nd half we played our best football so far this season. To come away from here with a point would have been a good result" I still cringe everytime i think about the stupid things he's said.

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To be honest i think that's more admitting to being a realist than anything else. when roy was initially appointed i myself thought he must have some talent, he was lma manager of the year, 30+ years worth of experience in the game, and he was well thought of. oh how wrong was i. .

So don't feel bad. you are not a bad person you have just seen the light lol

chris 1

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13 Dec 2010 21:27:22
13 Dec 2010 21:08:19
13 Dec 2010 19:22:42
Just wait until the next home game against a rubbish team and they all come out again.
I've been doing the "Roy not good enough for us" since July and its circular , we get a win they come out accusing me of being a disloyal supporter, not the liverpool way and all sorts, then we loose a game we shouldnt and they disappear until the next win.
I must say convincing the ed and Blair was the hardest, but once they've seen the light many followed. . these 2 are very influential on this site :¬)

Roy

Sorry Roy couldn't quite hear that, You were to far up Ed and blair's backside, So when are you thinking off popping the question.

Regards UCCM

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I'm sorry but this is the same Blair Mayne who was suckered into believing that we had been taken over months before it had actually happened, so I wouldn't say he was 'very influential'!
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I am indeed the same naive, stupid, pathetic, idiotic, clueless and just plain thick Blair Mayne who thought we were took over in May-June.

Thanks for reading my bs mate. .

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 21:25:58
It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

Blair, during the whole takeover thing I thoughT you were very good/ informative with your posts. However the above is just pathetic. . ur making yourself out to be no more than a school kid. NESV are/ will be good for LFC

Rednose

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13 Dec 2010 21:22:36
To be honest i think there have been a few "hardcore" supporters who have never really taken to roy or thought he was the right man. you ask the eds they must have been sick to death of my rants against him. but i am not sure i understand what you mean when you say convincing blair and the eds was the hardest, maybe i missed something but they have always seemed to regard roy as a short term measure. but i may be wrong

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I was on Roy's side at one time Chris. He lost me not just with his negative tactics but his stupid comments. I had enough after the Everton game and his post match comments he said "I think in the 2nd half we played our best football so far this season. To come away from here with a point would have been a good result" I still cringe everytime i think about the stupid things he's said.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 21:22:03
"Martin skyrtle"

Please enlighten us all who this new player we have signed is?

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13 Dec 2010 21:19:37
Martin skyrtle.

Good points. Got tatoos and a skinhead.

Bad points. Rubbish in the air, gives away freekicks all the time in dangerous places, poor positional play, no leadership qualities, cannot pass the ball, no pace, got steadily worse since we bought him, not as good as ayalla.

Next up is ngog. . .
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Don't see how you can moan about ngog at least he is trying in our dying squad and he has vastly improved since the end of last season {ed's note - plus you missed Skrtel's best point - his name lends itself to a number of nicknames, including Skittles and Turtle.}
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spot on with all of it. except maybe why tatoos and a skinhead are good points?

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13 Dec 2010 21:13:11
13 Dec 2010 21:08:36
Martin skyrtle.

Good points. Got tatoos and a skinhead.

Bad points. Rubbish in the air, gives away freekicks all the time in dangerous places, poor positional play, no leadership qualities, cannot pass the ball, no pace, got steadily worse since we bought him, not as good as ayalla.

Next up is ngog. . .
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Don't see how you can moan about ngog at least he is trying in our dying squad and he has vastly improved since the end of last season {ed's note - plus you missed Skrtel's best point - his name lends itself to a number of nicknames, including Skittles and Turtle.}

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13 Dec 2010 21:11:09
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Griezmann for soceidad had a decent game against barca last night even though they lost 5-0
He got at some barca defended and made good runs
May well be worth a look at, plus he is oung

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13 Dec 2010 21:09:07
To Roy

Chris 1
"What i find interesting about all this debate on roy etc. is that i have been saying much the same sort of things for ages. and got ripped into on more than one occasion, now its becoming more and more difficult to find people who are willing to defend him. they all seem to have done a runner"


Just wait until the next home game against a rubbish team and they all come out again.
I've been doing the "Roy not good enough for us" since July and its circular , we get a win they come out accusing me of being a disloyal supporter, not the liverpool way and all sorts, then we loose a game we shouldnt and they disappear until the next win.
I must say convincing the ed and Blair was the hardest, but once they've seen the light many followed. . these 2 are very influential on this site :¬)

Roy
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I don't think it is infuence Roy mate. I just think other fans are recognizing now what you knew all along that Hodgson isn't and never will be good enough to manage LFC.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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To be honest i think there have been a few "hardcore" supporters who have never really taken to roy or thought he was the right man. you ask the eds they must have been sick to death of my rants against him. but i am not sure i understand what you mean when you say convincing blair and the eds was the hardest, maybe i missed something but they have always seemed to regard roy as a short term measure. but i may be wrong

chris 1

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13 Dec 2010 21:08:36
Martin skyrtle.

Good points. Got tatoos and a skinhead.

Bad points. Rubbish in the air, gives away freekicks all the time in dangerous places, poor positional play, no leadership qualities, cannot pass the ball, no pace, got steadily worse since we bought him, not as good as ayalla.

Next up is ngog. . .

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13 Dec 2010 21:08:19
13 Dec 2010 19:22:42
Just wait until the next home game against a rubbish team and they all come out again.
I've been doing the "Roy not good enough for us" since July and its circular , we get a win they come out accusing me of being a disloyal supporter, not the liverpool way and all sorts, then we loose a game we shouldnt and they disappear until the next win.
I must say convincing the ed and Blair was the hardest, but once they've seen the light many followed. . these 2 are very influential on this site :¬)

Roy

Sorry Roy couldn't quite hear that, You were to far up Ed and blair's backside, So when are you thinking off popping the question.

Regards UCCM

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I'm sorry but this is the same Blair Mayne who was suckered into believing that we had been taken over months before it had actually happened, so I wouldn't say he was 'very influential'!

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13 Dec 2010 21:06:36
Does anyone on this website watch Liverpool. I've read complaints about Lucas, Konchesky and Ngog, and yes they are all not Liverpool quality but are far better that that dutch tw@t we have on the wing. Yet again he was brilliant, gave the ball away 12 times in a row against Newcastle, is that possible, I'm sorry but a 6 year old would do a better job!, Newcastle best pass completion player was Kuyt and that's not even a joke. Its a hu@king disgrace he wears the shirt, the worst player in our history, yet most fans don't care because he runs all game, you morons who think that need help! GET KUYT OUT IF OUT CLUB!

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13 Dec 2010 20:45:09
RE:
Konchesky to be palyed in new role
it is said to be right back! behind the goal


More like Left Back in the changing room

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13 Dec 2010 20:42:05
People who come on here feeling sorry for roy and say he should be given a chance are having a laugh. I understand it's hard to win any game in the premier league, but teams with lesser squads than Liverpool have beaten the teams we have lost too, and they didn't do it by sitting back, so don't blame it on the quality of our squad. Hodgson shouldn't be given 20, 30, 40, or 500 million to spend in January because the calibre of his signings are Paul Konchesky and Poulson. I'm sure with the 8 million we spent on those donkeys we could have had a winger with a bit of pace or someone to back up/ partner Torres. At Fulham he could get away with these awful signings because they don't expect the best (no offence Fulham) and if they played better than expected it was a bonus, PK and CP will never exceed or match expectations in that red shirt because there crap! His tactics are shocking from kick off he doesn't know how and when he needs to change things during a match and his post-match interviews are a joke. I hope Werner and Henry, you have employees visiting these sites and seeing how unhappy people are with this situation. Come on NESV and make a statement you say your here to win then let Roy go and make a statement and bring in a Boas or a Coyle or an Emery and let them use the youngsters like Pacheco, Suso, Eccleston Etc and spend your money wisely

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13 Dec 2010 20:39:18
Liverpool Rumours
Konchesky to be palyed in new role
it is said to be right back! ! behind the goal

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13 Dec 2010 20:38:30
Liverpool Rumours
This is what werner said

"We just got here, Roy got here shortly before us. Nobody, least of all Roy, was happy with our performance last weekend, " Werner said.

"We have to perform better, especially on the road. We believe in what Roy is doing and we certainly feel like the performance has to improve, and he'd be the first to say that."

January may provide the Hodgson the opportunity to improve the club, and Werner acknowledged that such is part of the plan.

"We're actively looking at it, " he said. "We don't quite know what the situation's going to be in January. It's our first transfer window and it's something we've been studying day and night."

"There's no doubt the play that has gone on this season, and for the last half of last season, is unacceptable for Liverpool to accomplish what it wants to accomplish."

"We're in sync with the fans with regard to what it's going to take for this club going forward."

Werner also addressed Liverpool's need for stadium improvements.

"We certainly feel the need to do something, " said Werner. "Our intention is to increase our revenue so we can put put the best possible squad together."

"We're hard at it, we've had a lot of meetings and we are moving forward with various options. It's too early to go in one direction or another in terms of whether or not to build a new stadium or refurbish Anfield, but we are making progress."

For now, Werner seems to be standing behind Hodgson, but he certainly did leave the door open for a change of heart - particularly given his claim that he is "in sync" with the fans.

sounds like the dreaded vote of confidence

we will see what happens but support the players not roy

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13 Dec 2010 20:37:20
Liverpool Rumours
Does anyone know if it's true that josè is good friends with Mark Halsey?

Mick

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13 Dec 2010 20:35:06
The thing that nesv need to realise is that top players want to work with the best managers. I doubt very much that the likes of torres was dreaming of playing for hodgson when he turned pro.

LAVERS

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13 Dec 2010 20:33:51
I was very impressed with the owners interview on lfctv
many callers wanted roy to be sacked and made their feelings clear about this .so the owners clearly know that roy is out of his dept at liverpool. john henry stated that he reads up on liverpool (ie blogs and fans forums) so he must know hodgson was an unpopular choice and tom werner said that the results must improve especially on the road . roys away form all through his managerial career has been bad . so i think his days are numbered . my hope is that andre villas boas gets the job and brings back the slick, attractive, fast moving , creative football that every lfc fan craves.He has to be ruthless in his approach and make some hard decisions apart from babel, lucas , jovanovic etc carragher must be given a lesser role in the first team .In my opinion he is past it at the highest level but still has alot to offer in the dressing room and training ground .3 players i hope liverpool sign by next season are suarez , honda and Fábio Coentrão.
ngs77

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13 Dec 2010 20:31:34
They didn't give me the impression they were sticking by him forever. He will be removed if things don't pick up away from home.They are business men , they Know how important it is to have the fans on side , so if 80% of your fans are screaming this is not good enough, they will be stupid not to listen.I got the impression that they will replace him , possibly the first job of the C.E.O. Remember everything comes to those who wait.

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13 Dec 2010 20:30:48
13 Dec 2010 20:22:28
Regarding this that Mr Blair wrote: "It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson".
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Not for long mate. No self respecting owner with ambitions for their club will keep a manager that continuously performs below par.

The Roachmiester
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Fingers crossed Roachmiester! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 20:29:03
13 Dec 2010 20:21:24
13 Dec 2010 20:16:44
13 Dec 2010 19:55:09
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone know how the interview went with the owners? wasnt it between 5 and 7?
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It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. "Built by Shanks broken by Yanks (and Hodgson)"

Shut up you fools! There hardly going to say yeah were sacking him tomorrow! They said that results have to improve imeidetly! NESV are the best thing about our club atm!
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LOL

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 20:24:12
We will see what happens with Roy, now they know how the fans feel I don't think they will worry about getting rid if the results keep as they are. They were hardly gonna turn on Roy on tv they have to be showing that there sticking by there man.

LAVERS

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13 Dec 2010 20:22:28
Regarding this that Mr Blair wrote: "It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson".
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Not for long mate. No self respecting owner with ambitions for their club will keep a manager that continuously performs below par.

The Roachmiester

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13 Dec 2010 20:21:24
13 Dec 2010 20:16:44
13 Dec 2010 19:55:09
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone know how the interview went with the owners? wasnt it between 5 and 7?
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It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. "Built by Shanks broken by Yanks (and Hodgson)"

Shut up you fools! There hardly going to say yeah were sacking him tomorrow! They said that results have to improve imeidetly! NESV are the best thing about our club atm!

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13 Dec 2010 20:20:32
13 Dec 2010 20:15:51
Blair mayne apparently Lucas bossed the midfield for 90min against villa
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Lucas has done ok for us so far. But i was going for a team performance rather than individuals.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 20:16:44
13 Dec 2010 19:55:09
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone know how the interview went with the owners? wasnt it between 5 and 7?
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It went really bad mate they are sticking with Hodgson.

NESV out of our club now you are not welcome! !

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. "Built by Shanks broken by Yanks (and Hodgson)"

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13 Dec 2010 20:15:51
Blair mayne apparently Lucas bossed the midfield for 90min against villa

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13 Dec 2010 20:11:48
In a way i feel sorry for Roy Hedgehog. Looking at it, he was brought in by our old owners who clearly didn't give a sh*t and never wanted to spend money on anything. Roy was then given LIMITED funds on which to make a few signings. This is probably one of the reasons we had to settle for over the hill burnouts as he never had the money to go for anyone of any calibre. I for one would be interested to see who he would buy if there was a sizeable amount of cash on the table but at the end of the day, as other people here have pointed out, Roy's stats speak for themselves and our club is worse off for it. We all new and said that he would be a temporary manager. As i have posted in the past, i believe that he WILL be sacked by January (if he loses any more games and our league position goes beyond 10th by Jan) and a caretaker manager will come in until a top replacement is found. Either way, whoever is in charge in Jan will get a good £25-30 Mil to improve things a little. Think about it, the new owners have to show their intent and the only way i think they can show the fans they are serious, is to get a world class player as part of the January package plus other players from sales. I think Mata & Honda will come in and some of the rack will be sold off.

The Roachmiester
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I don't really feel sorry for him. He's making a tidy wage, and if he gets the sack before the end of the season he'll get a million or two out of it.

If he succeeds, he's in pocket and a hero at a massive club (which won't happen now). If he doesn't, he gets a million or so compensation.

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13 Dec 2010 20:10:53
Tom Werner did say that he spoke to Roy this morning and told him they are not happy with the away form.They are not going to sack or lambast him live on tv.I didn't expect Matt watsisface to do anything but a support your paymasters job.Thought Clair was better she did put viewers difficult questions to them about Kenny and Roy. Then Matt arrogant creep watisface interupted her.

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13 Dec 2010 20:08:18
13 Dec 2010 19:53:56
Not really mate. Although with the right manager we could certainly be playing a lot better than we currently are, especially away from home.

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It is amazing just how controversial the home and away form is , hard to understand that Roy Hodgson is not prepared to change those tactics .
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When you think about it mate we havn't set the world alight at home really either.

Arsenal drew 1-1 (not bad 10 men)
Sunderland drew 2-2 (crap)
Blackpool lost 2-1 (no comment)
Chelski won 2-0 (good 45 mins)
Blackburn won 2-1 (Allardyce's team says it all)
West Ham won 3-0 (West Ham getting relegated)
WBA won 1-0 (not convincing)
Aston Villa won 3-0 (Villa are crap)

If anyone can pick out a game here were we've dominated the whole 90 mins at home it would be much appreciated.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 19:58:15
Liverpool Rumours
In a way i feel sorry for Roy Hedgehog. Looking at it, he was brought in by our old owners who clearly didn't give a sh*t and never wanted to spend money on anything. Roy was then given LIMITED funds on which to make a few signings. This is probably one of the reasons we had to settle for over the hill burnouts as he never had the money to go for anyone of any calibre. I for one would be interested to see who he would buy if there was a sizeable amount of cash on the table but at the end of the day, as other people here have pointed out, Roy's stats speak for themselves and our club is worse off for it. We all new and said that he would be a temporary manager. As i have posted in the past, i believe that he WILL be sacked by January (if he loses any more games and our league position goes beyond 10th by Jan) and a caretaker manager will come in until a top replacement is found. Either way, whoever is in charge in Jan will get a good £25-30 Mil to improve things a little. Think about it, the new owners have to show their intent and the only way i think they can show the fans they are serious, is to get a world class player as part of the January package plus other players from sales. I think Mata & Honda will come in and some of the rack will be sold off.

The Roachmiester

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13 Dec 2010 19:57:45
Liverpool Rumours
Ronaldinho coming in jan? and ed can you name some player who play in these positions who cd arrive plz :)

2 r/ lb
2cb
wingers
strikers


comments please

{Editor's Note: Not a chance of so many changes I am afraid.}

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13 Dec 2010 19:57:03
After watching the full Q+A on LFC.tv earlier the main positive i took out of it was the many callers trying to get their point across about Hodgson.

What did annoy me was the redirection off the subject by LFC.tv. This is what us fans want to know more than anything "Is Roy Hodgson getting sacked and when" Anyone else spot that?

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: It may be an annoyance but certainly a predictable one.}

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13 Dec 2010 19:55:09
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone know how the interview went with the owners? wasnt it between 5 and 7?

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13 Dec 2010 19:53:56
Not really mate. Although with the right manager we could certainly be playing a lot better than we currently are, especially away from home.

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It is amazing just how controversial the home and away form is , hard to understand that Roy Hodgson is not prepared to change those tactics .

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13 Dec 2010 19:48:30
Liverpool Rumours
I think John and Tom, well and truly got the message, from the fans that got on the phone in , on LFC tv. Tom will act if things don't pick up. I was well impressed with our chairman.Roy will be replaced. He as been told they are not happy with the results on the road and Like any employee you are warned before you are sacked.He said he had a meal with King Kenny and his son Paul and having seen Paul on tv last week, I know he is one of us, red through and through, says it as it is.We want to see liverpool playing every game to try and win.I think we can trust these men to make the right moves for the club.

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13 Dec 2010 19:47:03
Comparing Roy Hodgson with Graeme Souness tenure as LFC manager , I remember after Souness was sacked the first thought was - now we could have a winning team and be successful again .

If Roy Hodgson was sacked - immediately we would be sure the good times are returning imminently .

1977
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Not really mate. Although with the right manager we could certainly be playing a lot better than we currently are, especially away from home.

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13 Dec 2010 19:41:32
Comparing Roy Hodgson with Graeme Souness tenure as LFC manager , I remember after Souness was sacked the first thought was - now we could have a winning team and be successful again .

If Roy Hodgson was sacked - immediately we would be sure the good times are returning imminently .

1977

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13 Dec 2010 19:38:19
Sorry Roy couldn't quite hear that, You were to far up Ed and blair's backside, So when are you thinking off popping the question.

Regards UCCM
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Ah so the green eyed monster raises it's ugly head! !

Regards) Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - now I know why UCCM has deleted me on FB, he is jealous!}

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13 Dec 2010 19:36:41
This is what i think will happen ?
Left winger the 1st choice seems to be Ashley Young
2nd Nzogbia
Striker; i think this will be the big one in the regions of 15-20 million pounds
right wing: no idea at all
oh f* * it i just don't know im in the know im not some liar who says messi is signing cos his dog told him but i do really think january is going to be busy NESV can clearly see january is more important than they though if we can be round about 5th 6th ( looking at our next fixtures! ) come jan then i wouldn't be too upset so a bit come on!
I would much rather spend 30 million on 2 brilliant players like adam johnson and luis suarez/ llorente !than 5 useless " squad players " can't wait for stevie literally cannot.
Oh and regarding Honda: Fantastic player im damn confident he will sign the rumours went quiet because it practically happened.
feel sorry for nando :( i mean 2 shots on goal or something so so depressing
Lastly Ed are you serious not convinced by suarez? did you not watch the world cup he is sensational! such a powerful shot i wouldn't be convinced if he scored 25-35 goals in the dutch league but almost 50 is truly something he's going to leave since jol is gone and im hoping we REALLY go for it. he plays like tevez head down sprint get past defender score exactly what our team needs.!
Honda : Very good
N'zogbia: do you guys watch him for wigan? he defines Winger.
Suarez : Goal scoring club/ country enough said.
Possibly a midfielder. MY TEAM
Reina
Johnson Agger Kelly Fabio
Raul Stevie Honda
Suarez Torres N'Zogbia.
Thats Actually quite realistic?
Thoughts people just on the team i won't make you read my nonsense. {ed's note - like I said, I have only seen him play in the World Cup, I remember a certain El Hadji Diouf looking good in one of those and he turned out to be a crock of something brown and smelly. His record in Holland is impressive, but it is a terrible league these days.}

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13 Dec 2010 19:23:57
A relative of mine is married to an american girl , they live in boston, they go to red sox games quite frequently , her father works in media with many contacts in the baseball world.
anyway, a rather vicious rumour is circulating through sporting circles that NESV/ FENWAY only purchased LIVERPOOL F.C to do just enough to keep them in the premier league and stabilise the club, so they can sell the club on, debt free, and collect a healthy profit to inject the cash back into baseball and other American ventures!
this was not the original plan, but it was soon realised that the amount of investment needed to re build the club was far greater than first believed; funds would soon be eaten up with a return too far on the horizon.
so, they will sell to the highest bidder, whoever that may be!
i know this is terrible news, please don't shoot the messenger, i hope it is wrong too!

can you remember the little process know as due dilligence?Do you think that nesv would get into something without knowing the whole picture?grow up and work it out you closet manc.It makes as much sense as one of roys interviews.

hipkop07

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13 Dec 2010 19:22:49
Chris 1
"What i find interesting about all this debate on roy etc. is that i have been saying much the same sort of things for ages. and got ripped into on more than one occasion, now its becoming more and more difficult to find people who are willing to defend him. they all seem to have done a runner"


Just wait until the next home game against a rubbish team and they all come out again.
I've been doing the "Roy not good enough for us" since July and its circular , we get a win they come out accusing me of being a disloyal supporter, not the liverpool way and all sorts, then we loose a game we shouldnt and they disappear until the next win.
I must say convincing the ed and Blair was the hardest, but once they've seen the light many followed. . these 2 are very influential on this site :¬)

Roy
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I don't think it is infuence Roy mate. I just think other fans are recognizing now what you knew all along that Hodgson isn't and never will be good enough to manage LFC.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 19:22:42
Just wait until the next home game against a rubbish team and they all come out again.
I've been doing the "Roy not good enough for us" since July and its circular , we get a win they come out accusing me of being a disloyal supporter, not the liverpool way and all sorts, then we loose a game we shouldnt and they disappear until the next win.
I must say convincing the ed and Blair was the hardest, but once they've seen the light many followed. . these 2 are very influential on this site :¬)

Roy

Sorry Roy couldn't quite hear that, You were to far up Ed and blair's backside, So when are you thinking off popping the question.

Regards UCCM

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13 Dec 2010 19:18:49
Liverpool Rumours
. . and he (John Henry) hinted that throwing money at the club is not the solution.
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And throwing $300mil for just two players at Boston Red Soxis a solution. How come?

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13 Dec 2010 19:15:42
Liverpool Rumours
The boredom with allardyce in charge could be likened to the ideology of benitez and Roy H combined together in the dug up and trying to win games with a score of 0 - 0.

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13 Dec 2010 19:14:36
Sam sacked yippeee , how lucky is roy .blackburn have new owners for 5 minutes and they can see there manager is crap . our owners been here 4 2 months and roy is still here .hope nesv will see u can sacked managers , when new owners come in YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 19:13:59
The new owners certainly do not hold back when refering to the waste and mismanagement that has held LFC back , a situation NESV are now forced to deal with , though they typically refrain from criticising the manager , NESV proved at Boston - even after a good season they are prepared to act in order to get the right individuals .

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13 Dec 2010 19:08:54
Liverpool Rumours
Now that Blackburn have sacked big Sam. Big being a euphemism for Fat Sam
i wonder if Pep Guardiola is worried about his job at Barcelona, considering Allardyce stated a couple of weeks ago
that he could manage huge clubs such as Barca, Milan, ect . . I think not! !
After watching the new owners on LFC Now, i'm feeling a little bit better than this morning anyone agree?

Deano95

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13 Dec 2010 19:06:34
Ed
"Very scary . . . Fergie [jolly close friend] managing us ."

I love the translation , I didn't think the phrase I used was offensive , if it was I apologise.
Roy

{Editor's Note: It was on the cusp so to speak - but no need to apologise.}

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13 Dec 2010 19:04:43
Liverpool Rumours
Sam gone and they are only a point behind us
woy is so lucky

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13 Dec 2010 18:58:51
Chris 1
"What i find interesting about all this debate on roy etc. is that i have been saying much the same sort of things for ages. and got ripped into on more than one occasion, now its becoming more and more difficult to find people who are willing to defend him. they all seem to have done a runner"


Just wait until the next home game against a rubbish team and they all come out again.
I've been doing the "Roy not good enough for us" since July and its circular , we get a win they come out accusing me of being a disloyal supporter, not the liverpool way and all sorts, then we loose a game we shouldnt and they disappear until the next win.
I must say convincing the ed and Blair was the hardest, but once they've seen the light many followed. . these 2 are very influential on this site :¬)

Roy

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13 Dec 2010 18:55:40
Im in love with Claire Rourke :/

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13 Dec 2010 18:53:10
Liverpool Rumours
Evening ed just watched lfc now with j henry and tom don't think Roy will be going anywhere soon and expect the transfers to come in the summer not January , might get rid of a couple in jan that will be about it, but a big summer ahead .cheers psvelnino

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13 Dec 2010 18:52:21
Damn just caught the tail end of the interviews. Never mind, i'll read the meaty bits on here throughout the night.

Still when you trawl through all the reports and quotes, there is a definite picture emerging.

Henry has now said on more than one occasion and he definitely said it again tonight that wages need to be cut. He says we have the revenue currently to be successful but have got it all wrong in terms of where its gone.

There are big, big earners at Liverpool who do not give value for money whatsoever. If the Ed can do a West Ham on the wages (that was class btw) and show us all what the players are roughly on, then you can work out yourselves who's to go.

No doubt Comolli will say he can get better players in on cheaper wages. In two years time he will either be proven right or badly wrong and we are still in a whole world of pain.

It's not so much the proven talents (the Gerrard's, Torres', Reina's) that are under threat but the supporting cast (the likes of Agger, Cole, Babel, Johnson, Maxi, Lucas, Strkel etc.) as well as the dross that do not deserve to even be in the visiting end (Konchesky, Kyriagos, El Zhar, Poulsen)

There must be nigh on £750,000 per week of pure crap just running out the door with more passion than half of the performers with only 22 points to show.

All the signs are it won't be fixed in January, i wonder if the majority of our signings in January will be pre bosman signings for next summer?

Bob the Red {ed's note - I think it is the supporting cast that are the ones he is referring to. Gerrard and Torres shift merchandise galore, whereas players like Johnson, Jovanovic, Cole etc earn huge wages and bring nothing to the club in return.}

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13 Dec 2010 18:49:19
"Bye Bye Sam lol

Blair Mayne YNWA
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dont laugh yet. the way this season is going he could end up with us! !

when he is at a new club. anywhere except us then i shall rejoice

chris 1 {ed's note - I don't even want to think of that useless fat [censored] managing Liverpool.}"


Very scary . . . Fergie jolly close friend managing us .
Lets hope he gets a job in league 2 very soon.

Roy

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13 Dec 2010 18:47:42
Roy is waiting in a side room at LFCTV studios for Claire Rourke to deliver the loaded pistol.

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13 Dec 2010 18:47:04
Liverpool Rumours
Ed , the interview with the owners on lfctv , john henry said that liverpool have some average players on big wages they don't deserve . in my opinion they are agger babel , johnson , jovanovic any many more , do you think this will lead to a clearout in the summer . and he hinted that throwing money at the club is not the solution . you thoughts please

{Editor's Note: This is what the Eds have been trying to explain. It needs a little time and a bit of a clean sheet in the summer. Expect youth and experience but do don't think you will see vast amounts of money spent on big name players.}

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13 Dec 2010 18:45:51
Just a couple of points or 3
big sam sacked at blackburn - thank god fergies best mate out of the beautiful game he should have resigned years ago for crimes against football -long ball hoofing, win the second ball sh*te, just look what owen coyle is doing with bolton who have no money and a lot of the players allardyce left behind and turning them into a football team.
a good day for football
been watching the new owners on lfc tv - a lot of people will be annoyed because they seemed to avoid the manager question but i for one think that they were dignified in their answers and i am sure they are aware and stated that results are not good enough but they were never gonna sack roy on live tv - and nor should they he deserves more respect than that, he is after all a football gentleman and deserves better than the owners sacking him on tv even if he is not good enough to manage us, he is still our manager and we are LFC we do not treat people that way and long may it be that this club conducts itself in a proper and good manner and is held in the highest of esteem by all other clubs throughout the world (apart from when the 2 t* ts were in charge). so if you wanted them to come out and sack him on live tv GET A GRIP we are LIVERPOOL the days of dirty washing being hung all over anfield road have gone and the new owners will turn us around and return the glory days in a proper and decent manner.Our fans are loved across the globe because we are LFC don't want our name dragging through the mud coz we sacked a manager live on our own tv channel.
rant over

bigg2966

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13 Dec 2010 18:45:11
ED so you won't be talking 2 mr.henry?bring him on here?wow, .great idea. . but i realy doubt it. . !but come on ed. . you guys can do it. . .!we will support our ed's

fazzy

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13 Dec 2010 18:45:01
Ed, how will you get John Henry to do a QnA on here?

{Editor's Note: A different Ed so I don't know what is planned.}

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13 Dec 2010 18:40:41
Let me tell you all, NESV will be very good for our club, they are in it for the long haul.

Macca

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13 Dec 2010 18:38:39
I think roy will will get his marching orders very soon after that phone in. They said they would listen and they have. Now i reckon they will act. They will look like heros and everyone is happy
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

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13 Dec 2010 18:37:51
Ed ehat the h*ck are these people chattin about the owners? Surely we are profitable enough to turn this situ round with the right structure and management in place? Do you think the Owners want rid?

Spriggo

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13 Dec 2010 18:31:35
Come on ed.are you on air now. . what did mr.henry said? {ed's note - I am not even near the TV mate, I am not well, I have recorded the programme to watch later. I am going to try and get him to do a Q&A on here instead.}

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13 Dec 2010 18:29:09
Bye Bye Sam lol

Blair Mayne YNWA
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dont laugh yet. the way this season is going he could end up with us! ! !

when he is at a new club. anywhere except us then i shall rejoice

chris 1 {ed's note - I don't even want to think of that useless fat [censored] managing Liverpool.}

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13 Dec 2010 18:26:54
Chris 1 .

Fair to say my support of Roy Hodgson was mostly in hope of improvement and desire for a good ideology to succeed .

I had seen the career stats of Roy Hodgson like everyone and I had witnessed the poor form , but I felt that the hard work and time put in to that point combined with the professionalism of the players had to count for something and would eventually lead to a turning of the corner that they could build on , in the clubs best interests .

I tried my best to communicate such optimism , but of course the controversy between the home form and the away form is nearing the indefensible .

I realise how poor the season is and how great the changes required are in order to achieve the clubs expectations , faithfully I continue to search for the positives and wait for the necessary adjustments to be made , in the best traditions of LFC .

1977
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Thank you very much for your gracious reply. I think at the end of the day we all want the same thing, for this club to rise again. and believe it or not i too have been searching for positives, and i could cope much better if there was spirit of adventure about the team.

Lets see what time brings us, and in the meantime all we can do is what we have always done. support the team

chris 1

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13 Dec 2010 18:25:23
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone else hear JWH saying he aims to be a Championship club?

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13 Dec 2010 18:17:16
They keep dodging the fact that every caller wants Roy gone!

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13 Dec 2010 18:17:00
Go on Martin good question ha

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13 Dec 2010 18:12:22
Lfctv really picking the questions being asked. Some stupid woman coming on asking about the stadium tour.Load of crap.

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13 Dec 2010 18:12:17
Liverpool Rumours
Wtf! i keep hearing woy's allowing Glen to leave. . in future don't slag off key players in are squad and expect them to say, i think its gna get worse b4 it gets any better with sum of these garbage players woy is planning on signing

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13 Dec 2010 18:11:54
Someone phoned in and asked John W.Henry where he sees Liverpool in 5 years. Henry said that they have a 3-5year plan to re-build Liverpool. And he said that by "re-build" he means take Liverpool to the top of English and European football again.

He said Liverpool's current state is not acceptable.

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13 Dec 2010 18:05:44
Liverpool Rumours
Looking forward to all the hidden message rumours. This is in regards to John W Henry & Tom Werner's interview on LFC tv this evening.

James Mc

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13 Dec 2010 18:05:05
Liverpool Rumours
Reports linking us with suarez and bojan. . any truth in this ed?? hodgson did say to sky sports news that he was in the market for 4 players including a striker.

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13 Dec 2010 18:03:59
Mr. Anti-Football has been sacked at Blackburn , maybe we will not see him in the Premier League again .

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13 Dec 2010 18:01:23
Liverpool Rumours
I was watching LFC TV earlier this afternoon and John Aldridge was discussing his All time Liverpool top ten players. At Number 8 was Emlyn Hughes. The clips of him playing just show what a great player he was and the enthusiasm he showed for wearing the red shirt. He'd be a £20m+ player in todays transfer market. I was surprised Phil Neal was above him at Number 7.

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13 Dec 2010 17:56:43
The rumour that NESV/ FENWAY will sell us for profit is starting to gather pace, that is why they aren't bothered about roys results! the owners took on more than they bargained for, so they will sell . new owners will replace roy, i will post as i know more
bad news!

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13 Dec 2010 17:54:54
A relative of mine is married to an american girl , they live in boston, they go to red sox games quite frequently , her father works in media with many contacts in the baseball world.
anyway, a rather vicious rumour is circulating through sporting circles that NESV/ FENWAY only purchased LIVERPOOL F.C to do just enough to keep them in the premier league and stabilise the club, so they can sell the club on, debt free, and collect a healthy profit to inject the cash back into baseball and other American ventures!
this was not the original plan, but it was soon realised that the amount of investment needed to re build the club was far greater than first believed; funds would soon be eaten up with a return too far on the horizon.
so, they will sell to the highest bidder, whoever that may be!
i know this is terrible news, please don't shoot the messenger, i hope it is wrong too!
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I don't believe that for one second. But if it is the case, then in order to make a significant profit they will need to make Liverpool more profitable via either the stadium revenue or commercially.

They will also need to invest in players and a new coach who can, at the very least, get Liverpool back into the Champions League. Or even make Liverpool Champions again.

Both processes will take time. If Henry wants to take us back to the top, make us very profitable then sell us then so be it, provided we get good owners. Because if he wants to make a profit of say £100-200m on the club, he'll need to build us up significantly.

He won't wait a year, then sell us for about £40m profit, that would be a waste of time and £40m wouldn't do that much for the Red Sox or their other American ventures.

So to suggest that they will just look to keep us safe from relegation, then claim they will make a profit is nonsense.

Put a little more thought into a post when you make it up.

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13 Dec 2010 17:49:30
Could someone please post some bullit points from the Q/ A ala budget style so us who cannot watch due to the 2 year old insisting we leave Mickey Mouse Club on ( and that is not ust BTW)

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13 Dec 2010 17:43:45
How is it that roy hodgson is still the manager? if the new owners want a club that keeps its head above water {relegation} then hodgson is the man .if NESV want to bring lfc into another golden ere than they must do this get guss hiddink r a manager that can get good players to anfield my id love to see martin o neill , ashley young , g cahill , ola tiovaion, kev doyle , diarra and get rid of poulsen cole jaovanavic johnston aqua merelis we need fighters not second rate bottlers and chav wideboys

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13 Dec 2010 17:38:36
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, do we have to sign a player before they are 18 in order to be seen as homegrown, or can someone like Danny Wilson be considered homegrown, as we signed him when he was 18.

{Editor's Note: The rule is three years playing for an English or Welsh club before they are 21.}

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13 Dec 2010 17:33:12
Liverpool Rumours
13 Dec 2010 17:20:09
Liverpool Rumours
13 Dec 2010 17:12:44
Liverpool Rumours
In Jan expect bids to go in for these players only

Wheater £3m
suarez £12.5m
a.young £15m

Can absolutely 100% confirm that none of these 3 players stated will sign for LFC in Jan, or ever for that matter. kk
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$&

how can u confirm that mate? The suare rumours are all over the place

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13 Dec 2010 17:31:45
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed just read he stocker rumour on insidefutbol.com this website is usually spot on with rumours the only place that desnt post rubbish. If i was to believe a rumor from anywereit would be from here.
DCG
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What is the Romour?

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13 Dec 2010 17:27:54
That guy Christian Eriksen scored for Ajax again at the weekend. I've watched him twice, and I've been impressed with him. He looks a real talent and I really hope we make a move for him.

At the moment, he's only 18 so if he signed in January and stayed at the club until he was 21 he would count as home-grown.

Wonder how much he would cost?
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he would need to have joined before his 18th birthday to do his 3 years to qualify for homegrown status at 21. Still looks a top prospect and hope we are considering the lad
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No he wouldn't. He's not 19 until February so if we signed him in the January window and kept him for three years he'd count as home-grown. So example, we sign him on 15th January 2011, then on the 15th January 2014 he counts as homegrown (I stress that its just an example).

The PL home-grown quota states this: "To qualify as home grown, a player will have had to be registered for at least three seasons at an English or Welsh club between the ages of 16 and 21."

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13 Dec 2010 17:27:01
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
MANAGER
word in liverpool people are still saying roy is getting the boot if its true its got to benefit liverpool fc, i believe its true simply because the people telling me are long time fans and have nothing to gain by telling lies, i do feel sorry for poor old ken dod though, the job was just far to big for him, bob paisleys skids {ed's note - Ken Dodd would have done a better job! At least his interviews would have been entertaining, and I would have been guaranteed to get some inside info as he is a very good friend of the family. The only trouble we would have is convincing him to spend money, he is tight as a duck's backside.}
ED your not one of the diddymen are you? iv heard roy being compared to liberace the very feminine pianist, can you get the resemblence? bob paisleys skids

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13 Dec 2010 17:24:52
Liverpool tickets are in 3 different brackets this season for EPL games. Bracket 1 (Man Utd, Arsenal, Everton etc) £45. Bracket 2(Villa etc) £41 and the rest £39 or around that.

Spriggo

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13 Dec 2010 17:23:50
Does anyone know were id get lfc online without paying of course thanks

So you don't want to pay then, How are liverpool going to make ANY turnover if there own fans want free stuff, Just pay for it mate, Its for the club you SUPPORT.
i tried my friend don't have a credit card only laser and the won't except it.

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13 Dec 2010 17:21:56
Hey ED .

Blackburn have sacked Sam Allardyce presumiably in the hope for more attractive football , maybe your Sean O'Driscoll could be in the running ?

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13 Dec 2010 17:21:07
Liverpool Rumours
A relative of mine is married to an american girl , they live in boston, they go to red sox games quite frequently , her father works in media with many contacts in the baseball world.
anyway, a rather vicious rumour is circulating through sporting circles that NESV/ FENWAY only purchased LIVERPOOL F.C to do just enough to keep them in the premier league and stabilise the club, so they can sell the club on, debt free, and collect a healthy profit to inject the cash back into baseball and other American ventures!
this was not the original plan, but it was soon realised that the amount of investment needed to re build the club was far greater than first believed; funds would soon be eaten up with a return too far on the horizon.
so, they will sell to the highest bidder, whoever that may be!
i know this is terrible news, please don't shoot the messenger, i hope it is wrong too!

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13 Dec 2010 17:18:33
Unlucky Fat Sam.

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13 Dec 2010 17:16:12
Does anyone know were id get lfc online without paying of course thanks

So you don't want to pay then, How are liverpool going to make ANY turnover if there own fans want free stuff, Just pay for it mate, Its for the club you SUPPORT.

UCCM

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13 Dec 2010 17:05:01
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Players LFC are currently looking at to sign in Jan will only be palyers to improve the squad. NESV have set out a mandate thta all players signed must have a speak good english.

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"have a speak good english"? I guess you wouldn't qualify. I would hope that a mandate like that would be illegal in the UK, because that would get you sued to pieces in the US. And for arguments sake let's pretend that it's a secret unwritten mandate. .in Boston, they have the Japanese players Dice-K and Hideki Okajima who don't speak English, as well a lot of Hispanic players like David Ortiz, and Adrian Beltre (I know, he just left the team) and former star Manny Ramirez who don't speak english very well. These players were not just roster players, they are/ were faces of the franchise. This "mandate" doesn't jive with what NESV has done and frankly your whole post is nonsense.

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13 Dec 2010 17:03:33
On Sky Sports website that Hodgson could target up to four players in the transfer window. A right-back, centre-back, striker and a winger.

Striker and a winger were the initial priority, but after Saturday's defensive display we need atleast one new defender. Apparantly Glen Johnson is keen on a move abroad, so let him leave I say. He's shocking at the back at times and his poor defending is becoming a liability. You simply can't comprehend poor defending with attacking ability. Get a good, strong solid right-back to replace him.

If we looked and scouted well enough, finding another Finnan or Arbeloa wouldn't be hard.

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13 Dec 2010 17:02:56
Ed how much is the normal ticket price to watch a match @ anfield or epl. .since i never been to england . .
{Editor's note - I do not know how much Pool tickets cost sorry.}

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13 Dec 2010 17:02:31
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Allardyce to sign 5 year contract. . .
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No thanks, we will stick with Roy

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13 Dec 2010 17:02:13
Any free online link for LFC tv tonight ?

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13 Dec 2010 16:58:55
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Andre Villas Boes to be appointed manager within a week RH to walk. . Torres off to AC Milian in the summer 100% accurate trusted people

egg on toast

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is your source baked beans?

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source = Heinz!

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13 Dec 2010 16:56:13
Liverpool Rumours
Does anyone know were id get lfc online without paying of course thanks

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13 Dec 2010 16:52:17
Liverpool Rumours
HOW ABOUT BOJAN? ?? ?
ED -? ?
BEL - YEA
UN - NO

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13 Dec 2010 16:52:13
Bye Bye Sam lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 16:51:55
Liverpool Rumours
Honda to come in in January plus a winger. Could be N'Zogbia as he thinks he's too good for Wigan and wants a bigger club. Don't think any decent strikers will be available until the summer.

A lot of contradicting comments about Glen Johnson leaving. Well if he does go I quite like the idea of having Fanni on my shirt.

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13 Dec 2010 16:49:11
Torres is not showing a lack of effort, he is showing a lack of service!

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13 Dec 2010 16:48:34
13 Dec 2010 16:19:54
Of course the players have to take some of the blame for the s* t i watched against newcastle but ultimately the manager picks the players the manager picks the tactics the manager as to motivate his players.
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Manager picks the players. .Yes
Manager picks the tactics. .Yes
But fhs surely when the players put on that red shirt they don't need motivating.
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I agree mate players shouldn't need motivating when putting on the red shirt. But the grim reality is that every manager should be able to motivate their players through good and bad performances.

Can you imagine playing for LFC under Hodgson and being told "IF we go 1 up everyone get behind the ball even you Fernando" Were is the motivation in what Hodgson does or says?

Some people on here today are blaming Torres for some of our recent results. Seriously take a step back and think for a momment our poor form so far this season is Roy Hodgson's fault it's that simple.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 16:48:29
Chris 1 .

Fair to say my support of Roy Hodgson was mostly in hope of improvement and desire for a good ideology to succeed .

I had seen the career stats of Roy Hodgson like everyone and I had witnessed the poor form , but I felt that the hard work and time put in to that point combined with the professionalism of the players had to count for something and would eventually lead to a turning of the corner that they could build on , in the clubs best interests .

I tried my best to communicate such optimism , but of course the controversy between the home form and the away form is nearing the indefensible .

I realise how poor the season is and how great the changes required are in order to achieve the clubs expectations , faithfully I continue to search for the positives and wait for the necessary adjustments to be made , in the best traditions of LFC .

1977

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13 Dec 2010 16:43:34
Look at roys body language at home not scared looks confident

look at roys body language away from home looks scared

the team is playing the same way

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13 Dec 2010 16:38:11
Of course the players have to take some of the blame for the s* t i watched against newcastle but ultimately the manager picks the players the manager picks the tactics the manager as to motivate his players.
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Manager picks the players. .Yes
Manager picks the tactics. .Yes
But fhs surely when the players put on that red shirt they don't need motivating.
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thought someone would come up with that easy answer
im sorry but for some players it isn't just that easy to put the red shirt on then your motivated

more and more players need more then that in the modern.

20-30years ago maybe longer yeah you could say that when most players were from the british isles the shirt is the motivation but in todays game ther is so many foreign players that it takes more then that

so the manager is very important to the motivation of the team

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13 Dec 2010 16:25:53
Ed you have a little girl with you?you're married?I thought your still a young boy playin soccer for cristal palace or something?(kiddin)!

ed if can ask henry , why he still sticking on with roy.kidding). .and ed please post that video @ youtube if can. . coz my country the lfc tv program time keep on changing. . maybe I'll miss it out. .!

fazzy

{Editor's Note: A different Ed - I'll pass your message on.}

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13 Dec 2010 16:21:54
Liverpool Rumours
Just a suggestion, but does anyone think Thomas Muller from Bayern would be a good buy in january?
Hes young, Great at scoring and already German international, But would probably cost £20mil Plus.
I Also doubt Bayern would let him go, but everytime i see him hes on the bench.

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13 Dec 2010 16:19:54
Of course the players have to take some of the blame for the s* t i watched against newcastle but ultimately the manager picks the players the manager picks the tactics the manager as to motivate his players.
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Manager picks the players. .Yes
Manager picks the tactics. .Yes
But fhs surely when the players put on that red shirt they don't need motivating.

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13 Dec 2010 16:09:59
Liverpool Rumours
Roy is staying till the summer this i think is true but you can never say anything is 100% in football

but if this is true then we have a torturous 6 months ahead of us

and what ever nesv have planned in jan and in the summer i hope it is a spectacular change of the management team.

of course the players have to take some of the blame for the s* t i watched against newcastle but ultimately the manager picks the players the manager picks the tactics the manager as to motivate his players

if he can't do all that for the road trips then there is no hope for him to be our manager we deserve better.

people have said to me put his record against how rafa started at liverpool and yeah they are pretty much the same but you have to look at the whole career stats to get a true picture of how s* t our manager is.

if he stays we have to get use to winning at home then losing away i don't want that i want us to fight and to attack when we are away from home.

so for me yeah i accept roy will probably be here till the summer and i will get behind him but it doesn't mean i want him here.

his tactics away from home is enough for me liverpool going away and set out to defend defend defend and hope for a draw is not what liverpool are.

i just hope that in the big big big big summer that nesv i think have planned they do the right things and get the right people in to replace the management team

i can never understand why we employed roy in the first place when there was so much uncertainty around at the time?

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13 Dec 2010 15:52:18
Ed's note - usually yes, but today my little girl and myself are both sick so if it goes quiet it is because I have my head in the toilet!}
i feel for ya mate {ed's note - I am going to have to record that program with John Henry answering questions today, if I didn't have a lappy I doubt the site would be getting much updating at all today. Why do kids always share their bugs? I will have to email NESV and see if John Henry will agree to do a Q&A session with the site I think.}

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13 Dec 2010 15:46:36
Hey ed; do you do the school run about 3-330ish, its always seems to go quiet on posting roundabout then lol

chris 1 {ed's note - usually yes, but today my little girl and myself are both sick so if it goes quiet it is because I have my head in the toilet!}

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13 Dec 2010 15:46:15
Mushroom, if you think that soto skrtel and konchesky were that likely to concede, the manager should've put kelly and aurelio instead of soto/ skrtel and konchesky instead? what is the point of having two central defenders compeletly devoid of a football brain and a lb who couldn't get into fulham's first 11? kelly and aurelio couldn't have done much worse, could they? wasn't this the manager's call? on the torres part i agree that his finishing has been poor, but i think you may also agree if i say that has torres made it 2-1, roy would have put 10 men behind the ball and with that back 4 we would have still lost or drawn

VM YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 15:44:05
What i find interesting about all this debate on roy etc. is that i have been saying much the same sort of things for ages. and got ripped into on more than one occasion, now its becoming more and more difficult to find people who are willing to defend him. they all seem to have done a runner

1977 where is your "performatory strategy" now , can you with hand on heart say it is actually working

Things are not going to change all that much this season. we may or may not get some of the signings talked about, but until the malaise that is roy departs from our club he is always always going to instill the mediocre mid table mentality that is part and parcel of roy.

I have to say i really can't see him departing anytime soon. . so for me its self defeating me constantly whinging about him, it won't change things, what will change things is when the board/ NESV see the financial impact he is having on our club. if he sees us as a mid table team (which he appears to) then succes for him is anywhere in the top half. that's financial disaster!

Right, back in my box again

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13 Dec 2010 15:41:05
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Liverpool Rumours
Suarez to join. He will cost 14million, but that fee could rise to 18million depending on his performances in a red shirt.
Ashley Young will also sign. He will cost around 16million.
Honda to also sign also, he will cost 14million.

Teram lineup:
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- Johnson- Carragher- Agger- Konchesky-
- - - -Gerrard- - Meireles- - Young- - - -
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Subs: Jones, Kelly, Kerigakos, Skertel, Wilson, Aurelio, Lucas, Poulsen, Maxi, Kuyt, Babel, Ngog.

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you forgot Joe Cole! !

that team would be great (bar Konchesky) would i think your fantasising!

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13 Dec 2010 15:39:18
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Teram lineup:
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- Johnson- Carragher- Agger- Konchesky-
- - - -Gerrard- - Meireles- - Young- - - -
- - - - - Suarez- Torres- Honda- - - - -
Subs: Jones, Kelly, Kerigakos, Skertel, Wilson, Aurelio, Lucas, Poulsen, Maxi, Kuyt, Babel, Ngog.

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Looks good and attacking (Not Roy), but why would you still keep Poulsen- get rid of him from that list which will improve the team withot signing any one

Lankan Red

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13 Dec 2010 15:31:26
It's quite clear that Torres has lost the heart to play for LFC, although he will stay till the end of the season out of whatever loyalty he has left (Cant blame the guy, he wants to win trophies) Then from then on its a slow rebuilding process that could take longer than people think.

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13 Dec 2010 15:29:07
Roy Hodgson in 35 years of management averages about 25 games per season . his record in every possible way seems inadequate and curious .

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13 Dec 2010 15:20:04
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A lot of people seem desperate to keep Torres but frankly his lack of effort this season has proved he does not want to be here.On current form he is not worth his place. If we could get a good price for him in Jan I would not worry about him going.

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13 Dec 2010 15:18:33
Absolutely, but the majority are calling for Roy's head, as you pointed out, and not many are saying that the players did not perform so with that, he has taken the pressure away from the players. The manager can only do so much but it is the players on the field who have to produce. OK you can talk tactics and kicking the ball as far as you can upfield, but it was an attacking line up. We did miss a couple of chances to go 2-1 up, Torres especially. Let's face it with Soto, Skrtel and Konchesky, how confident were you that we would not concede?

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I have never disagreed. My point was that maybe Roy's comments was to deflect the pressure away from the players.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - my point is that his job is to get them to play at their best and instil ambition to finish as high up the league as possible. What he has done is to suggest they are a lower half team and that we will be doing well to finish top half. He is not just dampening fans' expectations but the players' ambitions too. If we were a lower half side or at best mid table, such as Blackpool or Wolves, then that tactic would be fine. But it is not a good tactic for a team which expects to challenge for a title.}
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Am not going off on a rant, my feelings about roy are well known. but what is really starting to concern me is that the players seem to be developing almost a siege mentality. don't attack, stay in our own half etc. am sorry that comes from roy.
For me torres just isn't performing, whatever the reason. and its not just lack of service, but everything about him at the present is indicative of someone who really doesn't want to be here anymore. How much longer can we afford to continue with a player who is so out of sorts (whatever the reason is, injury at world cup, lack of fitness, lack of confidence)
We are talking about one of the most feared strikers in europe a couple of seasons ago. i would suggest he is anything but at present

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13 Dec 2010 15:17:39
Fair point Ed.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - it just worries me that he might actually think that a top half finish would be a good season, he has shown no signs of desire to get more.}
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It worries me too. I just hope we can turn it around. It just seems to be 1 step forward and 2 back. A good result followed by a bad result. We need to average at least 2 points a game from now til the season end to salvage anything.

MUSHROOM

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13 Dec 2010 15:17:36
People talk about torres' attitude, what about roy's attitude. He is thinking as if we finish in the top half of the table at the end of the season he'd have the season of his life. If you listened to his interviews, he is always forcing the fact how we are in a transitional period, how we have not enough good players, how previous regimes have ruined the club, which effectively means he thinks club is not good enough to finish in top 4. He is clearly trying to lower down fans and players expectations. The last person you want to think like that is your manager. Would bill shankely, bob paisely, kenny dalglish show this kind of attitude. .NO. He has got no ambition, no desire, so he can't inspire his players also. Any average fan can see this hope NESV and henry too.

VM YNWA

P.S.- have you visited liverpool kop lately ed? if not go and see how JK is clutching at straws to defend woy. You might get some laughs looking at his facts. {ed's note - I gave up on that site when he removed comments I made, which involved no obscenities whatsoever, pointing out inconsistencies and mistakes in an article he posted. I asked him a few questions and he removed the post rather than try and answer them.}

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13 Dec 2010 15:14:14
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Nobody else rate honda as a world class player then?

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13 Dec 2010 15:08:44
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*Breaking News*

Woy is a sh!t manager! !

that is all


kopite ad

(thought id brighten your day)

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13 Dec 2010 15:08:04
ED - OK I take your point - he's expendable - but he aint going is he?

We are stuck with a mid to lower table manager mentality for the foreseeable future, when we finish about 16th - the fool will come and say " it wasn't a bad season " - look what the fool has done with Pacheco - laid the Northampton result purely on the young lads toes.

He has no morals, no management capability and absolutely NO CLASS. {ed's note - I think it is a major mistake on NESV's part to stick with him, but they are new to the sport and are not used to the possibility of relegation.}

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13 Dec 2010 15:03:29
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I think Konchesky gets games because R H bought him, simple as that.He is an ageist, believes experience is the Key to avoid relegation.The guy is a joke! He lost the dressing room when he was with Blackburn, by changing an attacking team to a defensive one. Any fan can see we're playing to deep.If you are going to play counter attacking you need a bit of pace in the middle, so they can support the front men.He doesn't have any balance in is teams.When Newcastle brought on the young lad, who was pacey, We stopped attacking them and dropped back into our own half. I would have brought on Kelly instead of the greek and carried on pushing them back. What do us fans know about fighting Relegation?Well that's what our Manager will be telling us soon.

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13 Dec 2010 14:54:28
WHAT:-

{ed's note - but the point is, and this is why I thought he was a good choice at the time myself, he was appointed precisely because his record was not good enough. He was appointed to be expendable when the sale went through, but to be experienced enough to steady the ship and make sure we weren't fearing relegation. The board were not expecting any new owners to stick with him, it was expected they would want their own man the moment they took over.}

Cracking tactics for LFC Grommett - let's appoint a person - the fans will love that, novel idea - but maybe we should have tried a radical approach and appointed someone who could do the job and wouldn't need replacing - talk about a plan backfiring - the worst PL since it began and we are still way off the pace, imagine someone with positive ideas - trying ti win games - who knows how many points we might have by now - god even United are s* t this year, and they are unbeaten. {ed's note - I understand what you are saying, but you have to remember the situation we were in. Most people interested in buying the club had different ideas about who they wanted to take charge, many would have been put off by a manager who was a favourite with the crowd. The sale was the priority, the manager had to be expendable.}

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13 Dec 2010 14:45:04
Allot of peolpe on here making there predictions about where wel finish and that were gonna strugle for Champions League Place. On watching us play over the last couple of months and taking note of Hodgsons Tactics and results in the EPL so far in his entire Career I am predicting 10th in the league (If he is to remain in charge a full season)

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13 Dec 2010 14:41:51
Was just wondering who's CV were the board looking at when they appointed Hodgson.

Even Stevie Wonder would have been able to see he's never won a bloody thing outside Scandinavia - and he's been a " manager " for 34 years - how the hell is that CV good enough for LFC.

We all sat there and applauded the board for the sale and getting G&H out - not realising they were shafting us with a real No Mark when it comes to football management. {ed's note - but the point is, and this is why I thought he was a good choice at the time myself, he was appointed precisely because his record was not good enough. He was appointed to be expendable when the sale went through, but to be experienced enough to steady the ship and make sure we weren't fearing relegation. The board were not expecting any new owners to stick with him, it was expected they would want their own man the moment they took over.}

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13 Dec 2010 14:39:35
I have never disagreed. My point was that maybe Roy's comments was to deflect the pressure away from the players.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - my point is that his job is to get them to play at their best and instil ambition to finish as high up the league as possible. What he has done is to suggest they are a lower half team and that we will be doing well to finish top half. He is not just dampening fans' expectations but the players' ambitions too. If we were a lower half side or at best mid table, such as Blackpool or Wolves, then that tactic would be fine. But it is not a good tactic for a team which expects to challenge for a title.}
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Fair point Ed.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - it just worries me that he might actually think that a top half finish would be a good season, he has shown no signs of desire to get more.}

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13 Dec 2010 14:32:15
To the author of the letter to mr henry, well done. Well concieved and factual, maybe the fans that keep saying give hodgson more time might finally open their eyes.

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Where's this letter? I can't find it on here. I'm probably not looking hard enough but can someone repost as I'd really like to read it. Ta

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13 Dec 2010 14:28:45
The fact of the matter is that Roy Hodgson has only successfully managed one of his teams to an away victory in the Premier League once in his past 27 attempts and the longevity of that shortfall reeks of inadequacy. But the problem in Liverpool's last two trips has not been Hodgson but Torres. Three clear chances, none taken. Had he converted for victory in both games then Pool would be four points clear of Spurs in fifth place. The travel-sick Spaniard just isn't the same player away from Anfield. {ed's note - so they blame Torres for missing 3 chances and not the fact that we have only created 3 chances in two matches for him? We should have created a lot more than 3 chances for him against Newcastle alone, they were a team in disarray and we sat back and allowed them to gain confidence.}
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Absolutly rediculous to use Fernando Torres as a scapegoat. The main cause for us losing the past two games has been our shocking defending. Twice against Spurs, and twice against Newcastle. For Barton's goal the defending was something you'd see in the Sunday League. That's not Fernando's fault.

Granted, Torres did miss chances, but in the past 4 or so games he's only had three chances created for him and that is a disgrace.

We just fail to press the opposition and put little or no pressure on them when they have the ball. Meireles is probably our most creative player and he always seems to be behind the half way line.

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13 Dec 2010 14:26:48
Ed? any ideas of potential candidates for the job when he does go? (prob in summer)

{Editor's Note: I think all the Ed's have their preferences (mine being Claude Puel who I think is an excellent and achievable option) and candidates could theoretically include almost anyone. I do expect him to leave at the end of the season though.}

Why?? He has won nothing for 10 years. When he took over at Lyon they had won the league for 7 consecutive seasons and in his two seasons there they have failed to win anything. {ed's note - I don't understand his choice either, Puel has never stood out for me as an option.}

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13 Dec 2010 14:16:38
Please John Henry - don't give Hodgson any money whatsoever to spend, and not just because of Konchesky and Poulsen - but also he rates Carlton Cole.
He has carried on the blame culture also - never his fault - always the players ( the ones he picks ) - just check out the PL stats - away from home - played 9 and lost 6 - and scoring only 6 goals - the buck stops fairly and squarely on the managers shoulders - his tactics - his responsibility - end of.

Wrong appointment - wrong time - his record in reality is appalling, his teams are not attractive or effective - do us a favour Roy - you look like a pipe and slippers man - get some nice ones bought for Christmas and in 2011 - wear them.

John B

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13 Dec 2010 14:14:34
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Interesting POV from football365.com:


Liverpool
The fact of the matter is that Roy Hodgson has only successfully managed one of his teams to an away victory in the Premier League once in his past 27 attempts and the longevity of that shortfall reeks of inadequacy. But the problem in Liverpool's last two trips has not been Hodgson but Torres. Three clear chances, none taken. Had he converted for victory in both games then Pool would be four points clear of Spurs in fifth place. The travel-sick Spaniard just isn't the same player away from Anfield. {ed's note - so they blame Torres for missing 3 chances and not the fact that we have only created 3 chances in two matches for him? We should have created a lot more than 3 chances for him against Newcastle alone, they were a team in disarray and we sat back and allowed them to gain confidence.}

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13 Dec 2010 14:11:42
13 Dec 2010 13:58:13
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To the author of the letter to mr henry, well done. Well concieved and factual, maybe the fans that keep saying give hodgson more time might finally open their eyes.
In 40 years ive never been so dispondant about being a liverpool fan (well maybe the souness management came close).
Still can't see a change in manager happening though, and things will get a lot worse before it gets better. .we will finish mid table and will see the likes of gerrard, reina, torres and agger leave. Then a younger manager will eventually be bought in to rebuild over the next 5 years with upcoming players rather than proven experience. Say hello to mid table mediocrity :|
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I feel the same way mate!

I've never felt like this when i sit down to watch us play. But everytime the players walk onto the pitch i get worried especially away from home. But what is really p***ing me off is NESV said they would listen to the fans on how to move forward. Surely they can see what we see that the way forward is not with Hodgson. If NESV want to move backwards then Hodgson is their man. It just seems to me maybe NESV are not listening to the fans as every LFC website or forum i've been on all want rid of Hodgson.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 14:05:37
Just watching a Camolli interview on LFC TV, and he's saying that the transfers are decided by a group, but ultimatly if Roy doesn't like a player he won't be brought into the club.

Oh well that's brilliant. Roy turned down Arda Turan and Van der Vaart for goodness sake any quality player suggest to him will probably get a no most of the time.

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13 Dec 2010 14:00:00
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Ed, on the main page it says spurs have been linked and all but clinched the deals for a.caroll, pienaar, s.parker, c.clark, jones of blackburn & conor wickham? from what i have been told ed its bloody true! am not happy! why have we not started early? we re not at the races so far so all the massive names will probably not come so we need to fight the likes of spurs for those players! ed?

{Editor's Note: It is fantasy - don't worry.}

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13 Dec 2010 13:58:13
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To the author of the letter to mr henry, well done. Well concieved and factual, maybe the fans that keep saying give hodgson more time might finally open their eyes.
In 40 years ive never been so dispondant about being a liverpool fan (well maybe the souness management came close).
Still can't see a change in manager happening though, and things will get a lot worse before it gets better. .we will finish mid table and will see the likes of gerrard, reina, torres and agger leave. Then a younger manager will eventually be bought in to rebuild over the next 5 years with upcoming players rather than proven experience. Say hello to mid table mediocrity :|

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13 Dec 2010 13:56:58
Roy Hodgson has warned that LFC could finish outside the top 10 .

There is not one person connected with LFC that wants to hear that - not the players , not the board and not the supporters , it makes me wonder who he thinks he is talking to or informing when he gives such press releases .

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13 Dec 2010 13:54:14
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When Roy was appointed he wasn't my first choice but i was prepared to give him time to impress & from his first interview he was doing that, speaking of the fans never letting him walk alone or how the Liverpool way was attractive footbal with players always looking for the ball & great team work. All of which he was having to do under the ownership of the worst people ever involved with the club. And rightly or wrongly I bought into that giving him chance after chance to fulfill those suggestions. Now I watched the game against Newcastle on Saturday & by the time it had finished I was preying for him to get the sack because we look like a team that has no ideas apart from hoofing it up field. I won't go any further because I'm sure you get many posts like this every day & reading them must get monotinous, but my point would be if we are waiting until the end of the season B4 we can get who we want wouldn't it make sense to ship Hodgson out now to prevent any further damage? whoever took charge couldn't do any worse even Kenny's lack of first team involvement or any of the coaches (except Lee) could keep things ticking over & probably with a bit more flair than we have at the minute.
Great site Ed. {ed's note - you could always make that point to John Henry tonight at 5pm UK time. Someone needs to because I have picked up a bug and spending half my time running to the toilet, I am worried I won't be able to speak to him myself now!}

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13 Dec 2010 13:47:34
Absolutely, but the majority are calling for Roy's head, as you pointed out, and not many are saying that the players did not perform so with that, he has taken the pressure away from the players. The manager can only do so much but it is the players on the field who have to produce. OK you can talk tactics and kicking the ball as far as you can upfield, but it was an attacking line up. We did miss a couple of chances to go 2-1 up, Torres especially. Let's face it with Soto, Skrtel and Konchesky, how confident were you that we would not concede?

MUSHROOM
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Like i've said on this site many times MUSHROOM. No matter what club you are at and the team is not doing well or under achieving (LFC) the buck always stops with the manager ALWAYS.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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I have never disagreed. My point was that maybe Roy's comments was to deflect the pressure away from the players.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - my point is that his job is to get them to play at their best and instil ambition to finish as high up the league as possible. What he has done is to suggest they are a lower half team and that we will be doing well to finish top half. He is not just dampening fans' expectations but the players' ambitions too. If we were a lower half side or at best mid table, such as Blackpool or Wolves, then that tactic would be fine. But it is not a good tactic for a team which expects to challenge for a title.}

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13 Dec 2010 13:39:21
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I amire the passion, but sending letters ant tweets to Mr. Henry is a waste of time. If the man (men) who spent 300 mil on a football club needs a supporter's letter to make a managerial change; we are in big trouble. There is a plan out there, the problem is that we don't know what it is because we live our passion on a day-to-day basis. We go from a euphoric state on Monday to a near suicidal state on Saturday. Why? Because we took 3 points out of a possible 6. The reality of it is that we are what we are and fixing this mess will take time and money. The money seems to be there, the time is not right, yet. Bottom line.

Olivier

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13 Dec 2010 13:28:31
Ed do you think Agger or Gerrard may be given 10-20 mins against Utrecht?

{Editor's Note: Possibly, but not if there is any risk at all.}

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13 Dec 2010 13:24:28
Agree - The Futures Bright, The Futures Red.
Disagree - The Futures Bleak, The Futures Red.

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13 Dec 2010 13:22:24
Never mind the race for the 'Top 4' , LFC look out of the race for 5th place , every chance we have had this season to make an impression on the Premier league table the team has fallen short , the season must not continue like that , atleast there are still 2 cups to play for .

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13 Dec 2010 13:17:58
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Ed,
When will I see on SSN breaking news that Roy Hodgeson been sacked or resigned on Mutual consent?
When?
Desp Red

{Editor's Note: July 2. About 11:15 AM.}

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13 Dec 2010 13:16:19
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Editor, where can I find the list of questions that you have selected to ask John Henry, if you can get through?

{Editor's Note: I am going to ask that Ed to communicate the questions, and any responses, for all to see later today.}

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13 Dec 2010 13:06:43
Torres has peaked? ha ha! If he was at arsenal he'd be on 10 goals I'm an Arsenal fan and I love the passion of liverpool but you are making torres look s*eep! A striker shouldn't have. 1 or 2 chances in a game even wolves create more than the reds? You're defence is abysmal your wingers are depressing. skrtel is a joke
would love torres at arsenal and if we actually spent money well for once I could see him coming 35 plus Walcott
good luck lfc!
Btw gerrard would never leave you and we've given
up on Reina he's commited :(
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I know your taking the piss but I agree that our team is s*eep. It's not that Torres doesn't get chances it's that he doesn't even work hard anymore. He blames everything on everyone but himself. He's lost his pace too.

I don't know how you can say we're carp when you win nothing. Like Evra said your a training ground. Your 2 best players wants to leave.

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13 Dec 2010 12:57:35
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{ed's note - but surely he has been in management long enough to know that saying that is going to annoy the fans who are already chanting for Dalglish?}
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Absolutely, but the majority are calling for Roy's head, as you pointed out, and not many are saying that the players did not perform so with that, he has taken the pressure away from the players. The manager can only do so much but it is the players on the field who have to produce. OK you can talk tactics and kicking the ball as far as you can upfield, but it was an attacking line up. We did miss a couple of chances to go 2-1 up, Torres especially. Let's face it with Soto, Skrtel and Konchesky, how confident were you that we would not concede?

MUSHROOM
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Like i've said on this site many times MUSHROOM. No matter what club you are at and the team is not doing well or under achieving (LFC) the buck always stops with the manager ALWAYS.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 12:52:57
Anyone, even considering moving Nando on, needs to have a good kip, a cold shower, a full english, and start the day again.
He is irreplaceable, in the same way Xabi is, our one Basque. Nando gone would leave a hole that we would struggle for years to fill.
There isn't anything us fans can do to change anything at the moment except take it on the chin, and stick with our club.

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Finally the voice of reaseon, well said. every player goes through a dip in form at some point. When Torres comes good again I hope hes playing for liverpool fc. We have bought allot of players over the last couple of years and most of them there has been very little competition for when signing them. Torres was wanted by many of our main competitors and still is, for one reason, He is one of the best strikers in the world. I agree he looks off sorts at the moment, but thanks to current style of play so do I and so would any other striker worth his salt. If we sell Torres I bet roy would want to replace him with Zamora or Cole. How many of you would want that? Another reason I don't want to replace our world class, EPL tested striker is because the top strikers out there at the moment won't want to come to us with the service our current striker is getting. I have watched so many rubbish strikers grace our team since the likes of fowler and owen and when we finally get one that's world class, we start calling for his head. Il be gutted when he leaves and starts playing great for another team and getting nominated for world footballer of the year.

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13 Dec 2010 12:43:39
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To the person who wrote the large letter to john henry. . let us know if you get a reply won't you. i couldnt have wrote that letter myself, totally agree with all you have said.

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13 Dec 2010 12:39:46
Torres has peaked? ha ha! If he was at arsenal he'd be on 10 goals I'm an Arsenal fan and I love the passion of liverpool but you are making torres look s*eep! A striker shouldn't have. 1 or 2 chances in a game even wolves create more than the reds? You're defence is abysmal your wingers are depressing. skrtel is a joke
would love torres at arsenal and if we actually spent money well for once I could see him coming 35 plus Walcott
good luck lfc!
Btw gerrard would never leave you and we've given
up on Reina he's commited :(
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Wasn't the last trophy you won in 2005? Wow that is the same year we won the Champions League. If you are gunner have a go, back it up with a team.

MUSHROOM

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13 Dec 2010 12:39:44
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To the ppl saying we need to support Torres when he's in his bad patch are talking carp. I would support him if he actually worked hard through a game. I seriously think he needs to go before his price tag falls again. I reckon man city need a striker and they like Torres so I would offer man city Torres for 30 million + Adam Johnson. City would think that's a steal because they still think Torres was the sane player as 2 years ago. With that 30 million we could buy Honda and a world class striker (Benzema).

Team if we sell torres and bring in those players

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Johnson- - - Carragher- - Agger- - Auerlio

A.Johnson- - -Meireles- - Gerrard- - Honda

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That team has great attacking quality. If you can't get Benzema then another striker of his quality. I think Torres wants to leave Liverpool anyway.

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13 Dec 2010 12:32:38
Torres has peaked? ha ha ! If he was at arsenal he'd be on 10 goals I'm an Arsenal fan and I love the passion of liverpool but you are making torres look s*eep! A striker shouldn't have. 1 or 2 chances in a game even wolves create more than the reds? You're defence is abysmal your wingers are depressing. skrtel is a joke
would love torres at arsenal and if we actually spent money well for once I could see him coming 35 plus Walcott
good luck lfc!
Btw gerrard would never leave you and we've given
up on Reina he's commited :(

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13 Dec 2010 12:27:30
Liverpool Rumours
Ed just heard that Roy said that we might not finish in the top half any truth ? {ed's note - sort of, he said we need to do better if we want to finish in the top half of the table. Shows the ambition he has for the club this season!}

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13 Dec 2010 12:22:40
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Torres is Basque
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Ahh the lovely Basque region of Madrid. . lovley place that.

How have you missed the fact that Torres played for his HOME side Athletico Madrid all his life before signing for us.

The only side Torres would definatley not join is Real Madrid because of his support/ love for Athletico Madrid, it would be like Gerrard joining Everton.

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13 Dec 2010 12:21:46
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I believe roy needs more time, liverpool fc has never had a reputation of sacking managers for fun and i hope were not about to start. i say give roy the next transfer window, see if he can turn things around. Our main targets should be a winger, LB and a strike partner for Torres, he can't cope, up there on his own atm and Ngog and babel arn't good enough for liverpool fc. Realistic targets, which i believe we should go for are: Emmanuael Adebayor, a proven goal scorer in the prem and he seems out of favour with man city and a chance for first team football at a club such as liverpool may be tempting for him. Charles Nzogbia, would be a suitable winger, hes proved that he can hack it in the prem and just because he doesn't play for a top team doesn't mean that he can't be a success at us, e.g. adam johnson from middlesbrough. Finally i reckon a suitable Lb would be Fabio coentrao, a good LB who would really bring something to the team, good in defence aswell as attack as he origionly a left winger. GOD on football manager aswell ha . All of those players would improve our team dramatically and all wouldn't be out of our price range. click believe if you agree with me please.

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13 Dec 2010 12:09:01
{ed's note - but surely he has been in management long enough to know that saying that is going to annoy the fans who are already chanting for Dalglish?}
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Absolutely, but the majority are calling for Roy's head, as you pointed out, and not many are saying that the players did not perform so with that, he has taken the pressure away from the players. The manager can only do so much but it is the players on the field who have to produce. OK you can talk tactics and kicking the ball as far as you can upfield, but it was an attacking line up. We did miss a couple of chances to go 2-1 up, Torres especially. Let's face it with Soto, Skrtel and Konchesky, how confident were you that we would not concede?

MUSHROOM

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13 Dec 2010 12:08:11
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Liverpool Rumours
Do you think that the sacking of Hodgson is imminent because of the continuous terrible away form?

Ed? {ed's note - unfortunately, no.}

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sadly, we can only dream of the clueless buffoon getting the sack. he is a nice guy but a terrible manager. his signings, Meireles excluded, have been shocking. His tactics, shocking. his press interviews, shocking.

Ed? any ideas of potential candidates for the job when he does go? (prob in summer)

{Editor's Note: I think all the Ed's have their preferences (mine being Claude Puel who I think is an excellent and achievable option) and candidates could theoretically include almost anyone. I do expect him to leave at the end of the season though.}

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13 Dec 2010 12:00:22
Liverpool Rumours
Posted a few weeks back, that a close family friend is close to the board at liverpool and mentioned, the possible return of michael owen, this looks very unlikely now as is now looks as if he is moving to villa, because of this. liverpool now looking to bring in Suarez from ajax but the dutch club yet to acknowledge it and might not even consider it. .
G. Johnson is looking for a move away from anfield, and looks like heading towards Inter, and liverpool wanting Eto'o or Milito in exchange. . Liverpool also due to hold a meeting with JC, SG, FT and Commoli to look at possible transfer for next season.
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Do you honestly believe that NESV and Commoli will give this much power to players?

MUSHROOM

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13 Dec 2010 11:57:27
Anyone, even considering moving Nando on, needs to have a good kip, a cold shower, a full english, and start the day again.
He is irreplaceable, in the same way Xabi is, our one Basque. Nando gone would leave a hole that we would struggle for years to fill.
There isn't anything us fans can do to change anything at the moment except take it on the chin, and stick with our club.

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13 Dec 2010 11:50:05
What we need is the structure of the club sorting out. It is clear that we haven't had it right for years whether it be the coaches, Manager, transfers, this that or the other. Its never going to be easy while all this is going on and I accept this club will not be getting results every week and winning things while this is sorted out. I just hope the owners get things sorted out bit by bit, however long it takes, to turn us into winners again.

Spriggo

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13 Dec 2010 11:21:15
In been watchin this site for a good while now an some of de rubbish that is said makes u wonder do people watch de games at all first sayin skrtel is a poor defender come on if anything he 1 of our best this season tough tackler in my opinion he an agger our future centre halfs an both had good world cup in adverage teams second as much as i love torres he not de same player this season needs a few chances ta score which unlike him hope he stays though third roy not the man we need away record shockin only 1 away win i think he got manager of the year last year wit 1 away win which suprised me has ta go as it 2 big a club for adverage manager an last we few players short as with current squad we won't make 6th in my opinion we need 2 wingers 1 striker at least as not enough goals n team at moment holdin centre mid like masa as we get opened up 2 easy im a fan for last 30 so years an its heartbreakin seein my beloved team so poor how does carragher an gerrard feel gutted id say red fan for life
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Sorry mate Skrtel is average at best. Agger and Ayala are the future centre halfs of our club, or they should be.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - if Skrtel was average I would be extremely impressed with his improvement.}

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13 Dec 2010 11:19:44
Wasn't it Lucas' fault for Newcastle's third goal as he didn't close the ball down which resulted in Carroll having a lot of space to shoot?

Keith YNWA
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Probably but I neither expected Carroll to score from there. I think it was an intended pass out to the right wing.

MUSHROOM

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13 Dec 2010 11:18:20
- He did say something stupid, something about if we want to be a top half of the table side. .
"No Roy, this is Liverpool we don't want to be a top half of the table side, we want to be a top of the table side. Bloody hell man, try to remember where you are. mediocre mid table finishes may have been respectable at Fulham and Blackburn, but we're supposed to be one of the big boys!

It is his attitude that is helping bring this club down. The players must be thinking, "Hang on, 18 months ago we finished second. . and he'd be happy if we finish in the top half of the table"

How can the players and fans have confidence if mediocrity is the target? how can he get the players to perform if he has so little belief? how can he attract quality players thinking like this?

The players and manager have not been good enough, but I think most of the players can improve. . Roy though cannot!

El Diablo!
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Roy knows that we need to be better than top half. These comments are said to try and take the pressure of the loss away from his players. He has been in management long enough to see where Liverpool have been in the table for the last few decades.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - but surely he has been in management long enough to know that saying that is going to annoy the fans who are already chanting for Dalglish?}

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13 Dec 2010 11:13:36
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Luis suarez, , , 49 goals in 48 games, , , we definitly need to buy this player i really hope these stories of us bidding for him i hope r true come on roy get this star!

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13 Dec 2010 11:12:22
A CLASSIC COMMENT. . .by im not blinkered Chris Waddle. . "David N'Gog, he's young and not good enough for Liverpool, doesn't score enough goals"

HE'S LIVERPOOL'S TOP SCORER so far this season. . . .watch him. . coz the more i see him play, the more i know he'll be a top talent. . watch his close control. . and movement. . .goals and the rest will come in time. .he's a kid remember, pushed into the limelight due to lack of striking options.
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I'm sorry mate but I have to agree with Waddle, N'gog is not good enough at the moment. Yes he is the top scorer but most of his goals came in the earlier rounds of europe against the so called lesser teams. He has great close control but he lacks a strikers instinct and reacts to situations rather than reading the game.
I do think he is a good player, but he is not yet LFC quality.

MUSHROOM

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13 Dec 2010 11:04:05
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13 Dec 2010 01:04:56
Liverpool Rumours
Look, to all you idiots who claim to know everything about Liverpool (besides Ed), i think you are all dillusional.
Fernando will not be leaving in January, maybe the summer but defo not January.
Also to the lad who said that Torres would be going to Citeh and Tevez would be coming the other way, lmfao, Tevez is homesick you idiot and his choice to leave Citeh is nothing got to do with his un-happiness with playing for Man City but more of the fact that he is homesick and he wants to return to Argentna, so get your facts straight.
Think about it man, Liverpool are a club in decline whereas Citeh are a club on the up, so, why would Carlos want a move to LFC?

Also Ed, please moderate these rumours more competently please, i enjoy this website but some of the tripe that gets posted on here is absolute rubbish. Cheers

i agree with 99% of that but the club was in decline, , now were gunna be moving forward again now we got new owners willing to spend good money on good players and build r young talent up

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13 Dec 2010 10:55:45
Lets face it, if there are no new players coming in in January and Roy is still manager expect a mass exodus.

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13 Dec 2010 10:18:33
Suarez is a truely fantastic player and who cares what roy says reports everywhere saying we have bidded for him and i hope we up our bid 20 million is worth it hes fantastic! very much like tevez runs AT defenders can score powerful gutsy just brilliant and he would move to liverpool hes 23 and whats 1st team football please no more than 25 million but at least 20 hes simply sensational thoughts on suarez ed?
hope all the reports are true cos its in dutch reports too. {ed's note - not convinced myself, even forgetting that I find myself uncomfortable with his cheating and his indiscipline, I have only seen him play for his country. His record at club level is decent, but the Dutch league is awful, so it is impossible to judge him there, and other than the World Cup he has never really done anything really outstanding for his country. But then he is only 23.}

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13 Dec 2010 10:13:39
Morning Ed
What in your opinion is the cause of our travel sickness. Poor tactics, poor players a combination of both or something else. And what would you like to see change in the hope that can win an away game

RedDan {ed's note - tactics, no doubt about it. Roy doesn't go out to win, he sends the team out really deep to sit back and defend. It has been his way for 35 years and has failed miserably for those 35 years yet he still won't change them. You can't play against a team like Newcastle, with a striker like Carroll, unless you are going to press them as high up the pitch as possible. The one thing you can guarantee is that he will win high balls and that they will pump the ball up to him every chance they get. So it is simply a case of pressing them higher up the pitch so they are kicking the ball to him from deeper positions and then he is either in a deeper position himself or isolated and can do nothing with the ball.}

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13 Dec 2010 10:05:34
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Found myself shouting at the telly for Roy to change an out of form Torres for an in-form Babel before Ngog was withdrawn. Is it time to cut & run with Torres. Wed had long periods of domination against Newcastle but never really penetrated. Perhaps Torres has already peaked and we have gotten the best out of him? Is it time to find a new world class no.9?

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13 Dec 2010 09:40:24
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Roy hodgson. . what an embarrassment

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13 Dec 2010 09:20:56
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13 Dec 2010 05:24:56Ed there should be a credible rumours section where people who have proven to have actual credible knowledge in the past can post. those like macca and eds and some others. or anyone else who can convince u they actually have 'inside info'.

theres no such thing as a 'credible' rumour. rumours are the result of certain things happening, which leads to people trying to put 2 and 2 together, usually coming up with 5. eg. martin jol leaves ajax, chris hughton sacked, must mean martin jol will be next newcastle manager? that's a rumour. but like most rumours, this was not the case. only a small percentage of the time do people get it right. although all it usually is, is a good guess.

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13 Dec 2010 09:09:27
Liverpool Rumours
The way Torres is playing at the moment I wish he would go in Jan! He is just not trying and his poor form will only make him less valuable when he does go. His current poor attitude is sadly undoing all the good he has done for the club over the years.He clearly does not want to be here, go as soon as possible.

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13 Dec 2010 08:47:24
Liverpool Rumours
All of you who think Roy will be sacked are mad! He will stay until the summer 100% because that's when nesv no1 target pep guardiola becomes available from the mighty Barcelona so expect Roy here until the summer and then early summer expect pep guardiola to be bought in! He will attempt to bring young striker bojan with him and expect a few signings from la liga to follow maybe Mata! Source. . HP

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13 Dec 2010 08:34:35
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Torres is Basque and therefore would NEVER sign for Real Madrid. Ed i thought Spain was in financial meltdown therfore how is it poss for even Barca to sign him? ( assuming we want to sell and he wants to go? )

DickieDiDoh

{Editor's Note: Torres was born in Madrid - he certainly is not Basque.}

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13 Dec 2010 08:04:56
Liverpool Rumours
THIS ISN'T A RUMOUR. . BUT PLEASE ED. . post it THANKS. . . . i dunno which part to put it in, just wanna point out some things about our team and players, manager and owners. . . . . . .

I EMPLORE Liverpool fans not to believe what you read in the papers, what Sky or any other media debacal say about our team. Times have been hard recently, with ownership, manager and what not. . . . but ALL media types see us as a BIG FISH to fry because of our history and standing in FOOTBALL. . . .YOU travel to anywhere in England or the World wearing the RED CREST and you'll be recognised. . . . that is how BIG we are. . . .not for the money of Man Utd, Chelsea, or any money bags teams. . .we are recognised as the same as Barcelona and Real Madrid, Inter Milan and AC Milan. . ESTABLISHMENTS, FOUNDATIONS in football.

Now that we are in a transition stage. . .the media take notice, all four corners of the globe come crawling for their piece of the pie to have a dig. . . . . .
Just listen to commentators on live games. . they love it, all with their own opinions. . even ex players. . makes me laugh(and anger at the same time). IF TORRES makes a mistake or doesn't smile whilst he's playing. . . .he's unhappy, he's not fit. . .blah blah blah. . . . .
A CLASSIC COMMENT. . .by im not blinkered Chris Waddle. . "David N'Gog, he's young and not good enough for Liverpool, doesn't score enough goals"

HE'S LIVERPOOL'S TOP SCORER so far this season. . . .watch him. . coz the more i see him play, the more i know he'll be a top talent. . watch his close control. . and movement. . .goals and the rest will come in time. .he's a kid remember, pushed into the limelight due to lack of striking options.


THE TEAM. . . . . . . . .
the squad isn't strong enough. But there is plenty of young talent in our ranks that are hungry to play, that is what you want, hunger and passion. . . .mancs won a title or two with that. . . .its a risk, that over the years we never take. . . .we might play the odd one. . .as we have in the past(Carragher, Fowler, Owen, McManaman, Gerrard, Wright etc). We've shipped out talent, that now prosper and attract bigger clubs.(Anderson, Hamill, Diarra. .etc) SHELVEY didn't make his debut at 15yrs for Charlton because they were short of players, he made it coz he was good enough, he's a far better prospect than Spearing. Kelly is a fine talent but limited to games, when i'd have played him when Johnson was injured, instead of moving Carragher there. I'd even go as far to say i'd play Kelly at left back in front of Konchesky(who i think is ok at the likes of Fulham and West Ham. .BUT NOT US YET)

TORRES. . .is lacking the service. . .he doesn't look happy, mainly because of his own form(REMEMBER. .he's had alot of niggling injuries, stop start season, new child, lot on his mind). . .BUT when he scores. . look at his passion. . . at the moment he seems to be trying TOO hard. . .(which if any of you out there have played footy, will understand) Form comes and goes, Class is permanent. . . .DON'T turn against him. . because there isn't anyone out there that can replace him, goals per game. . when fit. . .

HODGSON. . . . .
APPOINTED as a yes man i think. . when times were in turmoil under ownership. . (the other yonks). . .
Now don't get me wrong, i admire what he has done with a team like Fulham. . BUT i feel he has bitten off more than he can chew with LIVERPOOL FC. The talent in our team is attacking and put a team on the back foot, but we seem to play too defensive and wary. Poulsen and Konchesky are good players but don't seem to cut it in a Liverpool squad. . Meireles is a good signing. . . watch him for Portugal. . .a box to box midfielder. . .but seems restricted when playing for us.
Tactically at times i think if we are winning at halftime, we seem to switch to defending a lead, why?? And if we are losing, he doesn't seem to know how to change it. . . . .
SAYING that tho, i wouldn't change managers until the end of the season, just brings instabillity to the squad. .who i think are trying to find their feet. . . . . .FOOTBALLERS play footy coz they can no matter who's in charge. . .

THE OWNERS. . . . .
Dont expect money just chucked at the club willy nilly. . . .i hope they take the option of building up ANFIELD. .buying the council owned waste ground around the stadium. . . . . .theres too much sentiment and history to move i think. . . . .
i hope they take a very serious hands on approach, not upsetting the team, but getting things in order. . . i think they'll buy in Jan. . but not silly big signings. . . from what ive seen with RED SOX, its a gradual, but a good thing. . . .time will tell.

HOPE YOU POST IT WHEREVER ED. . . . . . . especially with the time its taken to write it lol

Y.N.W.A

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13 Dec 2010 07:43:05
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13 Dec 2010 01:21:35
Let's try a focus on the positives from the weekend. At least Roy never said anything stupid in his post game interview!

- He did say something stupid, something about if we want to be a top half of the table side. .
"No Roy, this is Liverpool we don't want to be a top half of the table side, we want to be a top of the table side. Bloody hell man, try to remember where you are. mediocre mid table finishes may have been respectable at Fulham and Blackburn, but we're supposed to be one of the big boys!

It is his attitude that is helping bring this club down. The players must be thinking, "Hang on, 18 months ago we finished second. . and he'd be happy if we finish in the top half of the table"

How can the players and fans have confidence if mediocrity is the target? how can he get the players to perform if he has so little belief? how can he attract quality players thinking like this?

The players and manager have not been good enough, but I think most of the players can improve. . Roy though cannot!

El Diablo!

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13 Dec 2010 05:24:56
Ed there should be a credible rumours section where people who have proven to have actual credible knowledge in the past can post. those like macca and eds and some others. or anyone else who can convince u they actually have 'inside info'.

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13 Dec 2010 05:07:32
wasn't it Lucas' fault for Newcastle's third goal as he didn't close the ball down which resulted in Carroll having a lot of space to shoot?

Keith YNWA

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13 Dec 2010 04:12:59
In been watchin this site for a good while now an some of de rubbish that is said makes u wonder do people watch de games at all first sayin skrtel is a poor defender come on if anything he 1 of our best this season tough tackler in my opinion he an agger our future centre halfs an both had good world cup in adverage teams second as much as i love torres he not de same player this season needs a few chances ta score which unlike him hope he stays though third roy not the man we need away record shockin only 1 away win i think he got manager of the year last year wit 1 away win which suprised me has ta go as it 2 big a club for adverage manager an last we few players short as with current squad we won't make 6th in my opinion we need 2 wingers 1 striker at least as not enough goals n team at moment holdin centre mid like masa as we get opened up 2 easy im a fan for last 30 so years an its heartbreakin seein my beloved team so poor how does carragher an gerrard feel gutted id say red fan for life

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13 Dec 2010 02:57:41
Liverpool Rumours
Torres needs help and if he does leave in January, which I highly doubt I will understand 3 years as basically a lone striker. Ngog i getting much better he is working hard and showing glimpses of talent, arsenal goal and villa goal but is not quite there yet he is only 21 and is exponentially better than last season. hope we do not sign anyone over the age of 25 because we need youth and if we are not going to get into cl then lets at least make it a rebuilding year.
I think we only need 3 people
Striker- preferably llorente or someone who is big tough and strong and can take getting kicked instead of torres
Winger-some one who actually plays and stays on the wing would be nice. Unlike maxi who thinks he is CM this year
lb- Coentrao

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13 Dec 2010 02:27:10
Liverpool Rumours
A realistic Liverpool squad after Jan transfer window

. . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . .
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Johnson. Carragher. Agger. Taiwo
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. . . Mireless. . Gerrard. . . . . .
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. Payet. . . . . . . . . . . .M'vila. . .
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. . . . . .Torres . . . Suarez. . .
main res Jones Aurélio Kyrgiakos Skrtel Kelly Babel Cole
Shelvy Maxi Suso Ngog

In
Taiwo: 8m ( we cud get him free as contract running out)
Payet 8m
M'villa 14m
Suarez 13m
Out
Konskesky 4m
Poulson 4m (by far worst mid in the team)
Lucas 8m ( he has turned things around dis season but i still think hes bettr of somwere else)
Kuyt: 8m
Aqua 14m
this i hope will be the squad by the end of transfer window it has very effective changes

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13 Dec 2010 01:23:30
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Hodgson is just like viagra! his effectiveness is just temporary and he will do only enough to keep us up!

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13 Dec 2010 01:21:35
Let's try a focus on the positives from the weekend. At least Roy never said anything stupid in his post game interview!

Calired

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13 Dec 2010 01:17:31
Anyone else think this is a grim PL season? I know we havent been too consistant but look at the amount of world class players who havent performed well or are injured in the league. Rooney, Torres, gerrard, drogba, terry, lampard, van Persie, fabragas. These havent done nothing this season compared to past seasons in the PL. The world cup was also sh!te and its just had a bad affect on our league.

Anyone agree? Ed? {ed's note - the season is always a bit of a let down after a World Cup, after the Lord Mayor's show syndrome I guess.}

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13 Dec 2010 00:47:47
Liverpool Rumours
If, and it's a big if, Nando does decide to leave in the summer, I personally cannot see him going to another EPL team because of the number of times he has expressed his feelings for our club. If he does go then the deal that I would like to see happening would involve their young left back maxwell in the deal, I personally feel that this kid has the potential to be an amazing player and already has champions league experience. . Does anyone agree {ed's note - are you referring to Barca's Maxwell? If so he is hardly a kid considering he is 29!}

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13 Dec 2010 00:46:13
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We all dream of a team of Lucas'!

Look at the abuse this guy has taken and not once commented about it. He has turned into a good player who I think can get better still. A few of our so call better players should take note of his professionalism.

* * Lucas' Mum* * *

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13 Dec 2010 00:22:25
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I think people should lay off torres, he has been nothing but loyal to liverpool, he has never criticized the club and has never pulled off any of the tevez or rooney nonsense, also everyone saying he will go for 50m when he's worth at least 70m in todays market

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13 Dec 2010 00:17:50
Liverpool Rumours
Henry and Werner live on LFC tv tomorrow. We fans should call and make our views clear. "Save Liverpool"- -Whether it's Hodgeson and anything else. I heard some of us have contact with Henry via Twitter or some other methods; but don't forget Tom Werner. He is almost as much important as John Henry.We fans know what's good for our club- - -So come on everyone!

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