Liverpool Banter Archive August 13 2016

13 Aug 2016 19:46:54
Has anyone read Klopps comments mentioning Ings in the same bracket as Benteke and Mario? I haven't seen the interview so it could be that Klopps words are being twisted but wondered what everyone's take was on this? Is Ings surplus?

13 Aug 2016 20:18:45
Klopp seems to see Firmino as his first choice striker. With Origi and Sturridge already behind him, Ings may struggle for gametine this year unless he can adapt his game and be more versatile, or if Klopp suddenly decides to play 2 strikers.

Our squad is massive and it needs to be cut down. Not even teams in Europe have 4 senior strikers. City only have Aguero and Bony (Iheanacho youth, Nolito can cover) . United have Zlatan and Rooney (Rashford youth, Martial can cover) . Leicester who almost always play with 2 strikers only have 4; Vardy, Musa, Okazaki and Ulloa. We are over stocked. Having Ings (who I really like as a player btw) now only stands to block the likes of Kane, Gomes and Dunn from getting any chances our senior team. Klopp is a massive believer in giving the kids a chance and he knows his squad is too big. You don't need to have 4 players competing for one position. So I can well believe that Ings, Benteke and Balotelli are all available at the right price.

13 Aug 2016 20:29:16
I think Klopp rightly sees his system only requiring 2 class strikers and they're origi and sturridge. Your 3rd striker, in a one striker system, should really be an understudy however, Origi has come on leaps and bounds under Klopp. I think the media are to an extent casting his words in a more sinister light, however I've inferred from something ed001 said - regarding a potential transfer - that he is not seen as indispensable to the club. I like the strike force in our main 3 of Sturridge, Origi and Ings for now and, bar a big offer for Ings, think it's the best we could hope for; we have 3 really able players to fill one position.

13 Aug 2016 20:53:46
Ings will be our top scorer this season if he gets a chance.

13 Aug 2016 20:54:19
Shame really i think ings has the potential to be a top striker.

Probably best to find a loan for him and see how he does after being out last season.

13 Aug 2016 21:10:51
He is a great player Dezy. When he first signed I remember having to strongly defend him against the masses.

Klopp rarely ever uses 2 strikers though. When he does he tends to play Firmino as slightly deeper forward. Plus Mane can cover there. It's a shame, but Ings has probably missed his window of opportunity by being injured last year.

Hopefully he fights his way into the team next year because I had massively high hopes for him. With his work rate and goals he could've been a modern day Rush. It just hasn't happened thus far though sadly.

13 Aug 2016 21:59:12
Higgins, during the pre-game interview Klopp was asked about Benteke's probable move to Crystal Palace and he said that we are too comfortable with six strikers, (Firmino, Origi, Sturridge, Ings, Benteke and Balotelli) but we are not going to gift any of them to another team without them first meeting the club's valuation in each case.

Klopp will certainly give Ings the opprotunity to showcase his talent, whether as a striker or not, as long as the player's performance in training is up to the prerequisite level for gametime.

Having said that Ings has the ability to score double figures for us this season, and I believe he will.

13 Aug 2016 22:15:59
Klopp said something along the lines of, he is not like benteke and balotelli (the other two), he will be important to us this season. He can't be rushed back, he found the pre season games difficult.

13 Aug 2016 22:21:41
A fit Ings should be ahead of Origi. He has more to offer in his all round game.

13 Aug 2016 22:40:47
Totally agree with MK. Both posts.
Ings has the potential to be quality. He has and always will hunt down every ball he possibly can.
I for one hope he does stay and proves himself.

13 Aug 2016 22:53:22
He came and said something about ings after that inital comment saying inga will be very important foe us this year. We know his quality but wr can't rush him back. He said a lot of pre season was still to much for him, not his knees but his muscles.

13 Aug 2016 23:15:59
Origi is a beast. Miles ahead of Ings. Just my opinion
YNWA.

13 Aug 2016 23:23:44
There is a piece on the official website with Klopp quoted as saying "we're counting on Ingsy" so I'm guessing he's in his plans.

13 Aug 2016 23:25:46
Another classic example of people klopps every word. STOP reading into everything too much!

13 Aug 2016 23:46:24
MK, Ings and rush in same sentence. Behave yourself lad.

14 Aug 2016 00:21:42
Right now, Ings is not in Origi's class. It is up to him to change that as I like him as a player.

14 Aug 2016 00:26:47
IF Klopp sees Firmino as his first choice striker, then Ings is in trouble. Sturridge and Origi will definitely be ahead of him in the pecking order, which makes him 4th choice. Not exactly a position a striker about to enter his peak years wants to be in. A loan would be a good option and then bring him back into the team if Sturridge has another injury hit campaign.

14 Aug 2016 02:34:10
Klopp clarified straight after that, that Ings had an important role to play.

14 Aug 2016 04:12:29
That's the problem, you can't just bring some one back when you need them now with the new loan rules.

14 Aug 2016 05:27:04
Ings is the type of player Klopp loves, would run after a chicken for hours if it gets him in the team. I can see Klopp changing his position slightly, educating him on other parts of the game. Might not be his best season this year but I can see Ings becoming a top player. Talent, hard work and mental strength, he has them all.

14 Aug 2016 08:09:04
Cheers everyone my take was its just media twisting things for click bait but wanted to check others thoughts too. Sure there is competition for his place in the side. However he is not being moved on like Balotelli and Benteke. I think he has enough about him (Ings) to play more than just as a striker anyway although we do have a few AM in our squad.

Has Ings ever played left back?

14 Aug 2016 10:00:36
I've never saw Ings as good enough. Was only brought in as cover by BR at a time when every player needed to be able to better our 1st team and am sorry Ings is a mile away from a 20 goal striker. I think using Firmino as our main striker is suicide as he's far from consistent enough and we will finish up like Arsenal, not scoring enough to win critical games and throwing away silly points. For me Origi has to be number one for me with Sturridge fitting in when fit and available. If your right MKS then I'll have to just trust Klopp on this one after all Aubamayang wasn't initially a striker!

13 Aug 2016 14:31:11
Got a question for those local Liverpudlians. I am from Finland and coming to Liverpool for the Man United game in October. I'd like to know what is the best way to get back to city center from Anfield? Bus, cab, something else.? How is it arranged? When I have been there before I've only managed to get hospitality tickets which included transportation to Anfield and back to center but this time it will be different with no arranged transportation.

Thanks in advance and good luck for tomorrow's game.

Tomi.

13 Aug 2016 15:17:01
Get a taxi 🚕 into town centre after the game.

13 Aug 2016 15:17:57
Taxi buddy.

13 Aug 2016 15:46:47
Alright Tomi, if you want to get the bus you can get the 17, 26 and 27. There's also a soccer bus run by stagecoach. They will be like the buses from Calcutta so personally I would get a cab, it would cost no more than £10. Dave.

13 Aug 2016 15:58:47
Thanks for the info guys. There is some kind of "taxi posts" close to Anfield then?

13 Aug 2016 16:00:58
Best advice I can give you is don't bother! Utd will win 6-0 after Moreno scores an own goal, gives away a penalty and then gets sent off inside the first 10 minutes. Klopp will be forced to resign as we languish at the bottom of the table and all in all I'd hate to see you waste your money on such a disaster.
However, I'd be prepared to spare you this expensive nightmare and would, reluctantly, take the tickets off your hands. This would of course be completely altruistic on my part, I would not expect to derive any pleasure from this transaction, it is purely a case of me wanting to protect you from this doubtless awful event.

Speak soon, my friend😉.

13 Aug 2016 16:20:33
DM, that is really noble of you. I'll keep your advice in mind and let you know if I am not able to make it ;)

13 Aug 2016 17:19:51
Best advice I could give is shanksies pony (walk) .
A taxi is preferable to the bus but it can be a nightmare. There will be loads of folks hot footing it down into town to celebrate, so just tag along with them. Will take around 15/ 20 mins. 😎.

13 Aug 2016 17:35:36
Shanks's pony! Oh my.

13 Aug 2016 18:23:34
Take yourself up to the Derry club for a few pints, wait for the place to clear then get a taxi.

13 Aug 2016 19:18:07
Walk. save yourself some cash. It takes about 45 minutes mate.

13 Aug 2016 19:28:39
Best advice mate, go up by taxi about 2 hours before kick off. The atmoshpere around anfield will be electric with the mancs coming to town. Regardless if result, you'll have a fantastic night.
Am I right in saying the last time that we played them on a monday night it ended up 3-3? I was about 7 at the time, totally remember the gane but not what day it was olayef.

13 Aug 2016 21:54:45
Jan 4 1994.

14 Aug 2016 06:44:17
You will wait a long time for a taxi. don't wait for 26, 27 or 17 bus they are all diverted till at least an hour after the final whistle. I do logistics for the games. Head to Breck Road from the Kop, a 5 minute walk, once at Breck look to your right, get on the 14 bus opposite a pawn shop next to the grass verge. Trust me it will be quicker than a cab. And cost £2.30 one way. If you getting a bus there ask for a dayrider and keep it, all buses all day for £4.

14 Aug 2016 06:48:27
get the 26 or 27 bus on the way there before the game at Liverpool one bus terminal, both stop outside Anfield as long as its over 1 hour before kick off hope u enjoy your trip and ill get you a pint.

14 Aug 2016 09:01:45
Thanks Chief and others too.

13 Aug 2016 13:14:28
Jonas Hector has signed a new contract with Koln apparently, should definitely rule him out.

13 Aug 2016 13:03:26
Hector has said now a new contract at koln, hopefully that stops that link.

13 Aug 2016 11:17:11
Come on you Ed's give me some good news about a left full.

{Ed002's Note - Juanma signed on Thursday.}

13 Aug 2016 12:02:25
I was under the impression that he was signed for the u23's, is he ready for the first team?

{Ed002's Note - I expect that he will be in the U23 squad - some of which will supplement the first team squad. Until we get through the next two weeks and Liverpool clear the decks a bit it will be hard to see where we are.}

13 Aug 2016 12:42:25
Cheers ed do you think he may be ready for first team.

{Ed002's Note - You would need to ask someone who watched him play in the Liverpool reserves recently but it has been noted that he doesn't speak English.}

13 Aug 2016 13:56:05
Dezy, I saw him against MK Dons less than 2 weeks ago. A few people keep asking so I'll do a quick analysis (bear in mind it is based on 60 minutes in a friendly though) .

He is very quick and also quite strong. Looks a little unbalanced at times though. His pace got him out of trouble a few times, making some great recovery slide tackles. Had he got back into position though I he could've avoided needing to go to ground. So he needs to work on his positional sense and awareness. He is very good on the ball though. Brewitt hit a pretty pacey pass at him at one point, which bounced up awkwardly. Juanma controlled it pretty comfortably though and that was a theme throughout his game. His control is excellent. He is good at running with the ball, but over ran it a couple of times so he needs to learn to get his head up when moving with the ball. One of his runs drew a very bad tackle on him which saw him leave the pitch with an injury. The only other thing I would mention is his passing. He was very good with quick one touch link up play. It was this link up play particularly with Woodburn that did most of the damage in the game I saw. In the hour I saw of him, he never actually got a chance to whip in a cross, but I remember reading that on his debut for the youth team he whipped in a cross to set up Brooks Lennon for a goal so if that is anything to go by, he has everything to potentially become a good attacking full back. I have my doubts over him defensively though. Then again, are there ant full backs nowadays who are great defensively?

13 Aug 2016 15:39:18
It's one or the other with full backs to be fair


Thanks MK.

13 Aug 2016 22:09:22
Welcome mate.

13 Aug 2016 05:44:12
Big shout out to all Down Under Reds! Monday morning 1am kick off. Good job I work for myself from home :)
This time last week I was checking out the new main stand development at Anfield. I'm now back in QLD and looking forward to the new season with nervous/ skeptical optimism. The last time we won the league was the year I left Liverpool. That's a long time waiting. The title may be a fanciful dream for this season, but not impossible.

13 Aug 2016 06:07:46
No better way to start the season than with 3am stay up! I'm still considering calling in sick!

13 Aug 2016 10:32:00
I don't start until midday, I'll be fine :)

13 Aug 2016 11:42:45
If the last time we won the league was the year you left, then stop being selfish and move back to Liverpool! You could be the superstitious key; you could be bigger than Ken Aguero's pants!

12 Aug 2016 20:14:21
Hi Eds, I keep seeing the Dahoud rumours all over again, I was just wandering if they're recycling old news or if it's a possibility. Looks a good player but he plays a position I feel we have plenty of players for already, thanks.

{Ed001's Note - recycling.}