Liverpool Banter Archive September 12 2012
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12 Sep 2012 22:38:01
Hi Ed002 appreciate your thoughts however the families have had 23 years of pain and oppression and people are rightly angered. Certain people and organisations should! be named and shamed. People of Liverpool have been suppressed for too long and I agree today is "a good day" however now is a time to show our true feelings as we are the ones who are the innocent party and should vent our anger in any form we see fit. Now is not the time for censorship.
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Spot on mate.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Leeds fan in peace justice at last. every match before kick off over the weekend should play youll never walk alone in their memory and the annoncer should ask them to sing we are all part of the football family god bless them all regards mot
12 Sep 2012 22:33:22
Well after the day today I have just watched itv news
They have done a round up of tomorrows headlines,
The Sun has it 'the real truth' and they have a front page apology, too little too late. All footballing fans should boycott this paper as today they have been shown up, the press need to believe that the family that is football will always stick together.
Don't buy the sun, it is 23 years too late also.
The truth will allow the 96 to RIP but justice will have to prevail to help everyone else move on.
You will never be forgotten
Sweetcorn
Agreed...
Phooey...
12 Sep 2012 22:29:26
CELTIC Football Club would like to send its support to the city of Liverpool, Liverpool Football Club and, most importantly, to the families of the 96 people who died in the Hillsborough disaster on April 15, 1989.
Celtic Chief Executive Peter Lawwell said: There has always been a strong bond between Celtic and Liverpool FC, and between supporters of both clubs, and the Celtic family has long supported the campaign for Justice for the 96.
On this important day, when previously unseen official documents have been released for the first time, the hope is that it will bring justice, and the truth about what happened at Hillsborough, a step closer for all those involved.
As always, our thoughts and prayers remain with the families of those who lost loved ones on that tragic day when 96 people went to a football match and did not return home." GOD BLESS THE 96
12 Sep 2012 22:26:52
JFT96
The Real KB
12 Sep 2012 22:23:15
All us EVERTONIANS will always stand shoulder to shoulder and hand in hand in your ongoing fight for accountability ... LIAM... Proud blue!! YNWA
12 Sep 2012 22:22:48
i am a celtic fan we allways knew lfc fans were only guilty of there love of there team justice at last for the 96 ynwa god bless u all from the celtic family
12 Sep 2012 22:17:05
As a Celtic fan who has always believed the truth about Hillsborough , I would hope that justice can finally be served to the people who lied and covered the lies . Though today can come as little comfort to the people who lost family and friends that fateful day I pray that this can help you move on . I have followed Liverpool and looked out for your results ever since the tribute game that was played at Celtic Park . On that day we sang the most amazing YNWA and which was sung with heavy hearts and tears in our eyes . Ever since that day when YNWA is sung at Celtic Park , I have a tear in my eye and take a moment to remember the 96 . So take care and good luck in your journey going forward I really hope every single guilty rat gets their comeuppance because every single person affected deserves justice .
YOU WILL NEVER WALK ALONE 96
CelticMatt
12 Sep 2012 22:16:22
a momentus day for liverpool fans the truth is out and i cant believe it took 23 years but its there in black and white for all to see god bless aw they poor ppl and there familes. celtic and liverpool both special clubs with great supporters gd luck in the pl this season
12 Sep 2012 22:16:17
Hi eds and all, today I was driving when Mr.Cameron said his statement and it brought tears to my eyes. I am so so so delighted that the truth has finally come out instead of all the rubbish about the poor fans being the reason for this tragedy.How all of us were tarnished by no wrong doing of ours.
All the world now knows we are innocent as we always knew and said we were.
We were just ordinary people who love their club that went to watch their beloved club and lost their lives due to the accumulative mistakes of many. My heart goes out to all the families , and I want ti hold each one of their hands and enjoy this unforgettable moment with them.
hisbylfc
12 Sep 2012 21:57:43
hi i have been afan since the great night 0f 77 of winning of big ears and ever since . i still remembertwo kent lads from safeway canterbury coming back early on the saturday luckly tey came back tellling me what happend i though they where joking now its finally came out mahbe we as all fans off football move on and no more sick comments on the stands plz yes i have heard it on tv . but o the other hand every fan of the premership now thanks.xx
12 Sep 2012 21:49:31
Hi Everyone Arsenal fan here, I have been sat on my own trying to think of some words that could mean something to all of the families, friends & fans of your great club on this day. It is unfathomable to try to understand the pain and sorrow that ALL of you have gone through for over 20 years but i hope, as i am sure so do fans of all clubs throughout England and beyond, that now the truth has come out that you may now get the justice that you have all strived for tirellesly. Words do not bring people back (we all know that) but i believe that they can help to heal!
I know this through tradegies i have had in my own life, however, i also believe that empty words can actually hurt and cause anger. So, i was actually happy to hear that an apology from a certain person, whos name i do not want to mention nor i feel need to mention was rejected by all at your club as nothing other than empty, pointless and far too late!
The fact that it took him over 20 years to do it, and, only do it when he had been proved to be a liar just goes to show what all of you and many others already knew...that he is as much of a coward as those vile people (yorkshire police) who tried to cover up the whole tradegy as someone elses fault but there own!
I am actually in shock at the levels that were taken to cover it up, and i now feel my eyes have been fully opened to see that the world we live in is actually a very sad place.
Mr. Cameron now has to put his money where his mouth is and now give you all the justice for the 96 souls and there families by quashing the original verdict and making the people responsible for that fateful day pay in whatever or form is necessary.
My thoughts are with all of you at your club even more so today!
I sincerely hope that nothing i have written has offended anyone in any way shape or form, i find it extremelly difficult to find the words to portray the way i feel but had to say something.
RIP to all who lost there lives and JFT96.
Stay strong.
Nice words, mate....appreciated.
Arsenal fan in peace & respect.
I know many of arsenal fans have signed petitions, etc over the years and have always been behind the cause for justice. We knew is was a lot of b****cks.
This goes way beyond any football rivalry.
Not ONE person should die watching the game we all love, to think that 96 people did, is completely beyond me and the cover up's to follow is an absolute disgrace.
after a great year of sport for our country, these people ought to be ashamed to be known as our fellow countrymen.
I love my country and despite the fact we might take p*** etc sometimes I'm pround of all the regions of our country and have always admired the humour/banter/generosity and pride of the liverpool people.
My heart goes out to all the family and friends of the 96 and all those who were there that day.
May you all have peace.
cockney gooner.
The first 5 words you wrote mean everything. It means so much that other fans have come on this site to offer support.
Great post, thank you so much my friend
12 Sep 2012 21:44:08
To the 96 people you will never be forgotten. Their families and everybody connected to liverpool fc and the city, Finally the truth has come out and you should all be proud with the way you have conducted yourselves and show great dignity and pride. I sincerely wish you all well and hope justice is done. This is why I'm proud to be a Liverpool supporter, we're not only a community, we're a family. YNWA
Dirty Ryder
Well said mate. I'm up in Glasgow and i'm a Celtic fan. We had the memorial match after the disaster and ever since (if not before) there's been an obvious allegiemce with Liverpool. There is a lot of similar messages on the Celtic page from both sets of fans. I really just wanted to echo what's being said to all Liverpool fans and families affected by the disaster ........ YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE
GOD BLESS
Gary {Ed007's Note - Great post Gary. I have not had a chance to say anything today, I am just on tidying up before I go to bed. On behalf of all the CFC fans I know personally and from posting on our site I would like to say that all our thoughts, prayers and best wishes are with the whole city of Liverpool and anyone affected by this terrible tragedy and it's horrific aftermath. YNWA JFT96.}
12 Sep 2012 21:41:14
From all Leeds United supporters
''You'll Never Walk Alone''
Good Luck
Woody LUFC
12 Sep 2012 21:31:03
Who is disagreeing with the comments posted by so many fans on here today? Hang your head in shame and be glad that you werent there.
Today I have never been prouder to be Liverpool fan, a daughter of this great City. The families of the 96, Steve Rotherham and our local MPS, Kenny and all those who campaigned despite the apathy, derision and disbelief of many, deserve the respect of all, wherever they are and whatever club they support.
Scousehouse
YNWA
JFT96
I suspect and hope that nobody is disagreeing. There is a problem with this forum's set-up that the disagree button is in the middle of the page if viewed on an I-phone. It is quite easy to touch disagree in the process of scrolling up and down. EDS you should do something about this. JFT96 God Bleas the families YNWA
12 Sep 2012 21:27:34
Are some posts regarding a journo being removed ed? {Ed002's Note - Posts are being removed if they are inappropriate. Today is a big step toward the truth and a day to celebrate. Any "downer" posts are being cut. I don't want to see folks bitching at each other at a time where folks need to step back and say "this is good".}
Well done ed002 and all those who are having to do this when good taste and decency should mean it was unnecessary.
Yep, understand ed, what i had seen and contributed too i thought was fair comments, but if it became inappropriate i totally agree. Emotions are high and i think perhaps easy to let fly at individuals. You are right though we should be hugely pleased with what has been achieved today, pray for the lost and their family's and seek justice after the truth. Thanks ed
Hi Ed002 appreciate your thoughts however the families have had 23 years of pain and oppression and people are rightly angered. Certain people and organisations should! be named and shamed. People of Liverpool have been suppressed for too long and I agree today is "a good day" however now is a time to show our true feelings as we are the ones who are the innocent party and should vent our anger in any form we see fit. Now is not the time for censorship.
Well said.I for one will continue to boycott that filthy rag ''The Sun'' and hope you will all do likewise. It's the gutter press that needs censoring not the long suffering fans Eds !! B
12 Sep 2012 21:17:26
{Ed002's Note - My advice is truly not to make a witch hunt today, tomorrow or next week. Stand behind the families who have achieved the next step forward today. Do no undermine their positions.}
12 Sep 2012 21:15:22
I am a life long United fan from Salford and I think the news that came out today is just shocking. All true United supporters always supported Liverpool in their search for justice. It is quite disgusting that it has taken this long for the truth to be shared. Anyone who has ever attended a football match should be appalled by what happened on that terrible day and be disgusted by what happened in the aftermath with the cover up. It is now time for the government to show some balls and bring criminal charges to those responsible for this unbelievable cover up. My heart goes out to the families of those who perished that day and what they have had to go through since. Very very sad.
Red (united red of course) Pedro
Well said mate
12 Sep 2012 21:06:38
Spurs fan here, just want to say the families fight for justice against a disgusting cover up has been truly inspiring. The football world has come together behind them, and now we have answers, justice must follow. I've had my problems with Liverpool in the past, but now I'm proud to say,
YNWA
12 Sep 2012 21:06:56
Delighted to see the truth come out at last. Nobody should ever go to a game and not come home. It should not have taken 23 years. I hope those who lied rot in a jail cell. JFT96
G.A.G.U.S
12 Sep 2012 20:57:33
Man United fan here. At last the truth is out, if we step over the line the police hammer us. Now it's time for those that transgressed to themselves be hammered.
On days like today we hear the appalling stories that we know you live with and it makes terrible listening.
Please accept my heartfelt condolences and let the justice process begin.
NEVER give up the fight.
Trawlerman.
12 Sep 2012 20:51:26
To the families, the survivors, and everyone concerned with the fight for the 96; i hope today is the beginning of the end of the journey to finally achieve the justice that has been denied you, disgracefully, for too long.
Your dignity and decency in the face of all the vicious rubbish that has been said and written over the past 23 years, is something that fills me with awe.
It does not end here - we will continue to fight with you until those responsible are held accountable...
12 Sep 2012 20:42:21
Finally justice for the 96, the truth, we have all been waiting for this for decades.
The 96 will never be forgotten.
Lil Red
12 Sep 2012 20:32:00
On saturday lets show the footballing world that even during this emotional week we can turn up and be the best fans in the world and become the 12th man for the 96 that arn't able to watch the match!!
You'll never walk alone
JFT 96
Taster 123
Nice one !! B
12 Sep 2012 20:29:10
Celtic fan here, I just wanted to firstly say well done to all the LFC families and the dignified way they fought for justice.
It beggars believe the extent of the lies told by the Yorkshire Police and newspapers at the time, I will not even mention the worst rag of all.
Celtic and our fans stood by you at the time and will always stand by you. hail hail and YNWA Neil T
12 Sep 2012 20:25:28
MUFC fan here,well done and congratulations to all of you,i hope they are the right words,hopefully justice will follow,god bless.
Mick the red fireman.
12 Sep 2012 19:39:56
I've watched, read and had a tear in my eye all day long....
I commend and sympathise with all the families involved, this has been a long time coming. It may be bitter-sweet, but VINDICATION to the families/communities involved.
I'd like to thank all the supporters who have taken their time to give there best wishes.
I won't be calling anyone names or asking for their head, 23 years of fighting the injustice says it all..
TRUTH(finally) & JUSTICE(not yet) FOR THE 96 - GONE, BUT NEVER.. EVER FORGOTTEN, YNWA
Lee YNWA
12 Sep 2012 19:32:43
I do not think that the full implications of today's revelations have really sunk in yet by all, I know I certainly haven't. Such a roller coaster of emotions but chilled by the thought that an English Police Force thought that they could get away with for 23 years lying and tainting innocent victims, but so proud of the determination and grit of the families and supporters of the 96 to stand up to the Establishment and force out the truth. Now, they can finally feel justice and closure within their reach.
Finally, that chill was taken away by the genuine warmth by the nation's football family with their kind words of support (particularly Evertonians and Man United fans; that will never be forgotten)
Proud to be a Scouser today.
FG
12 Sep 2012 20:09:23
I may forgive for the uncaring behavior, the mistake to understand the disaster, but I never forgive those who create story, false statement , the cover up in the truth , the conspiracy to the people who suffer.
bring them to the justice punish them for the lie.
r-r
Never forgive what they said never forget what they wrote.......
12 Sep 2012 20:06:00
Words cannot describe the repect and admiration I have for the tireless campaign for justice of the families, survivors and everyone affected by this terrible tragedy.
The extent of the cover-up is beyond shameful and those responsible should be held personally accountable.
The truth is out, now we need justice for those 96 souls.
YNWA
Rest In Peace
Mrs E (Celtic supporter)
12 Sep 2012 20:05:17
Some answers and an apology at last. JFT96.
McB
12 Sep 2012 19:55:59
Great respect for the families of the 96, your faith, patience and devotion to your families is so inspirational. You truly have been walking through a storm over the past 23 years and hopefully now there is a golden sky for you all.
God Bless
You'll Never Walk Alone
Evered
12 Sep 2012 19:53:58
Thank god the truth has finally come out, although I still believe that the government must have been complicit in the cover up! I hope this leads to justice for the 96 and the families that have been ripped apart by this! Big up to today also, they get a lot of grief on here and rightly so most of the time. However there coverage and discussion today has been exemplary.
Greaty
12 Sep 2012 19:38:36
As for me.I hope the HFSG reject any stupid apology from the crooks that made it happen.for them to live their lives for 23yrs and act like nothing happened shows how cold blooded they are..although nobody close to me was affected..I almost wept when I read the report.I can only hail those families that fought for so long as true legends.may God comfort them..YNWA
12 Sep 2012 19:25:36
I'm a EFC fan and would just like to say RIP to those 96 fans who lost their lives on the 15th April 1989, Don't buy the s*n! 2 clubs 1 city JTF96 NSNO YNWA
ToffeeMike
Thank you Toffeemike. Some things are beyond football. The truth is one and today people know more than they did yesterday.
I have a lot of admiration for the blues and there support towards thius awful tragedy.
Mighty reds
Agree totally with this post. Glad the truth has come out I sincerely hope that this is start of peace in the hearts of family and friends of the 96 fans who lost their lives going to watch a football match this can't and shouldn't be allowed to happen again.RIP. Sharky LUFC
12 Sep 2012 18:56:54
Thoughts are with the families of the 96 today. They are an inspiration to us all. Would also like to remind everyone of the role taken on by Kenny Dalglish in the aftermath of the tragedy. He's got a bit of abuse on here this past few months, but this man gave more than any other football manager to his club in the course of his duties. Eternally grateful.
Totally Agree
A True Legend
12 Sep 2012 18:53:37
96 reasons for the truth
96 reasons for justice
Tommy.
12 Sep 2012 17:57:25
All truth passes through 3 stages 1st it is ridiculed 2nd it is violently opposed 3rd it is accepted as being self evident.....Arthur Schopenhauer......& respect to all fans of other clubs who offered their solidarity on here today, this was more important than any rivalry what happened 23 years ago and the subsequent cover up was a concerted attack in the working class irrespective of our sporting allegiances,thatcher was a sociopath out of control & the repercussions & effects of her time in power are evident today,such as the divisions in our society & the cult of the individual, but those fans of other clubs today,has restored some of my faith in people & left me with a tear in my eye god bless you & your humanity & god bless the 96.......
Paisley's genius
12 Sep 2012 18:48:24
JFT96 you made be gone but you will never be forgotten.
Red raj
12 Sep 2012 18:47:03
you are finally getting the answers and the truth, you are terrific fans, all the best to you all, leeds utd supporter
12 Sep 2012 18:44:43
Today was the first step. A step that has been denied us all for 23 years. As Gerry sang, "The road is long".
I urge all supporters attending the game on Saturday, please sing "Justice For The 96" louder than you ever have done before. Before it was a wish. Now we can truly demand it.
YNWA
12 Sep 2012 18:28:24
I am rubbish with words but just want to say how proud i am of the HFSG, the friends and family of all the 96 and all LFC fans, finally the truth, now for justice. God bless.
12 Sep 2012 18:26:27
I can't write anything to do with football today... I can't believe what has finally come out. I have so much admiration for the families who have had to fight for today and I'm so glad they have finally found out the truth.
MJ
ynwa
12 Sep 2012 18:22:09
Been busy at work all day but trying to catch up with all of the posts however impossible it may be. One over whelming feature is the support from fans from other clubs, even our greatest rivals. The truth has at last been publicised today and the road to recovery can begin, if that is the right phrase and I apologise as I am too emotional to get the words right. Above all I would just like to say thank you to ALL football supporters for their kind comments and words today and I am sure I speak for all Reds when I say we will all "Never Walk Alone". God bless the families of the 96.
Cornish Red
12 Sep 2012 18:21:13
Just want to say R.I.P to the 96 and I'm glad the truth has finally, finally, been revealed.
Adam
12 Sep 2012 18:11:49
Days like today truly put football into perspective!
Massive respect to all the rival fans posting their support to the families! I can only echo those sentiments.
Although nothing can bring back their loved ones or give them back the past 23 years I hope that the families can now find some peace now that the 96 can finally rest in peace!
YNWA
Delboy
12 Sep 2012 18:07:14
Arsenal Fan here JFT96
Islington Gooner
12 Sep 2012 17:57:55
Justice for the 96 YNWA
Crooky
TM {Ed052's Note - I'm not sure we can talk about that sort of thing mate. I wish it could be possible, but doubt it (What you mentioned)}
OK Eds I understand....thanks for the reply
12 Sep 2012 17:47:04
At last the truth is there for all to see..
Whats next? Justice for the 96 is next, those responsible should now be held accountable. This publication of the truth that we knew to be out there and buried by shameless cowards is a vindication for those that worked tirelessly and toiled against abuse telling them to just lie down and accept it, the beginning of justice was to have the true story revealed to the public domain.
I am sad for the families of the 96 that will feel fresh suffering now that damning truth has been revelaed. But they have shown their strength over the last 23 years. The family that is Liverpool Football club means that they will never walk alone.
SpudRed
If that sc*m McKenzie had an ounce of self respect, he should try and do some proper journalism for the first time in his life, and help find those responsible for this cover up. If anyone knows where to start looking, it would be him, as he had a big part to play in the whole disgusting saga. Even if he did (which he won't because of the vile person he is) I would still refuse his apology.
Nick
12 Sep 2012 17:38:24
Today the families of the 96 got the truth that they deserved, Every football fan around the world knew the truth about what really happened that day. God bless the 96, the families and the Liverpool supporters around the world who had to wait 23 years to finally get the truth.
Today you got the truth, Hopefully the justice will come soon.
At the end of the day we are all a football family. Rivalry will always be put aside when things like this happen, Respect.
Justice for the 96, YNWA
Dylan, Man United fan.
Andy burnham top man great scouser proud you supported us through very dark times hope your team wins something this year
JFT96 YNWA L19 Red {Ed052's Note - People will be banned if possible. Ignore them is you can}
12 Sep 2012 17:24:41
Never have the Lyrics of this REM song rang so true.
When your day is long and the night,
The night is yours alone,
When you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on,
Don't let yourself go
Everybody cries and everybody hurts sometimes.
Sometimes everything is wrong,
Now it's time to sing along,
When your day is night alone (hold on, hold on)
If you feel like letting go (hold on)
When you think you've had too much of this life, well hang on.
Everybody hurts,
Take comfort in your friends.
Everybody hurts,
Don't throw your hand. Oh, no
Don't throw your hand,
If you feel like you're alone, no, no, no, you are not alone.
If you're on your own in this life,
The days and nights are long,
When you think you've had too much of this life to hang on.
Well, everybody hurts sometimes
Everybody cries,
And everybody hurts sometimes
And everybody hurts sometimes
So, hold on, hold on,
Hold on, hold on
Hold on, hold on
(Hold on, hold on)
Everybody hurts
You are not alone...
For the 96 fallen, You'll Never EVER Walk Alone.
Stevie.
12 Sep 2012 17:25:39
JFT96
12 Sep 2012 17:23:02
United fan here in peace; echoing the thoughts of fans of all clubs I'm sure...
Well done to those involved in the search for justice, finally the truth is out after so many years. This is just the start I'm sure. It's a total disgrace that the lies have been allowed to gone on until this point
RIP to the innocent 96. My thoughts go out to their family and friends, and to all Liverpool supporters on this bittersweet day
Gav
Thanks Gav. Top bloke. God bless. L19 Red
12 Sep 2012 17:11:34
Hi boys it's a great day!
I want to add to it by saying:
Our football team is very good yes we're a bit short of numbers but look at our midfield this year joe allan is and will be a fantastic player for the club...
Sahin is top top quality just give him 2-3 games with no injurys to get settled... Gerrard is still very good have faith in the skipper! Also Lucas is a top top midfielder we all know that! Yes our strike force short on numbers But Suarez 20+ goals a season borini will chip in with 10 sterling may hit 10 in all competitions... And in January were obviously going to sign a striker so things arnt to bad guys are player are top 4 quality not top 10th place team so please support the boys we have a top team! YNWA
12 Sep 2012 17:01:05
god bless the families of the 96 , ...............lfc
12 Sep 2012 16:57:03
Hi Ed, Glasgow Rangers fan here just want to say... Pleased to see justice was done today.... God bless the 96 that went to a football game and never came back
YWNA
x
I hope your club is soon back at the top of the Scottish game.
Mighty reds
12 Sep 2012 16:55:44
Finally the truth has emerged even if it has taken 23 years. The families of the 96 should never have lived through this anguish and trauma. Those responsible should now be held accountable. How could anyone live 23 years with so much guilt? The revelations are shocking. This was Britain 23 years ago not a dictatorship in Central America.
12 Sep 2012 16:48:52
Llorente - £8m-10m (we are willing to pay that fee as it would allow us to give him lower wages then what he would demand if he were to move next summer) + £2m signing on bonus with around 75k-85k pw (£3.6m a year)
Striker/Winger; Rodrigo(Benfica) - £12m
Winger/LB cover - Michel Bastos(Lyon) - £6.5m
CB; Danilo (Udinese) - £6.5m
= £33 - £35m
out
Daniel Agger - £18m
Downing - £10m
Cole, Pacheco, Coady Loans = £1m
adam sale - 4m
spearing and carroll loan fees - 2m
=£35m
{Ed002's Note - Llorente has the chance to negotiate a deal to his liking in January. Footballers aren't the brightest bunch typically, but even he would figure out how dumb that is.}
12 Sep 2012 16:43:55
you will never walk alone
gaz lufc
Celtic fan backing the 96 YNWA
12 Sep 2012 16:39:39
godbless 96 rest in peace now redmen steviep62
12 Sep 2012 16:38:05
Gman82 {Ed002's Note - It went in to subjects well beyond the scope of this forum. It is not where we are going to go.}
12 Sep 2012 16:30:07
celtic fan - thoughts and prayers to the families who lost ther loved 1s on that tragic day YNWA
gunniebhoy
12 Sep 2012 16:26:40
I think it's great that other teams fans can put our rivalrys aside and offer there thoughts for everyone involved with hillsborough...... A big respect goes out to everyone of you and we thank you for your kind words......there has been a breakthrough today.........23 years to late but it's a start....
Andy
JFT96
12 Sep 2012 16:16:47
Just want to say justice has been done .henke7 ynwa
No, justice hasn't been done yet but now the TRUTH is out there perhaps JUSTICE will follow ;)
12 Sep 2012 16:12:18
Really great seeing kelvin Mackenzie coming out finally and saying sorry today.
Even better that his apology was Rejected.
Don't buy the sun or daily mail.
Ever.
MIKEY
12 Sep 2012 16:09:57
I dont want to say well done or congrats to the families. I just hope they can find some solace in the truth, which was denied from them for too many years. They have thought for the truth with so much dignity. May this day bring peace the 96 souls who perished and the countless other victims of that day. JFT96 YNWA. All the best.
KNEE JERK.
12 Sep 2012 16:04:45
JFT96...... From all chelsea fans that use this site, we wish peace to the families and every one affected .our thoughts and prayer are with them.
JFT96
ELI
12 Sep 2012 16:02:35
Gunners fan here , god bless all members of the Hillsborough families , my thoughts are with you more than ever at this time .
12 Sep 2012 16:00:11
Man united fan here. Just want to say I'm happy you finally got the truth and hope the families of the 96 get the justice deserved
Thanks, it's great to see we can forget the rivalry on days like these, it means a lot u saying that......
Lets make next weekend a dignified event about football fans - northern football fans - sticking together!
12 Sep 2012 15:49:29
Utd supporter here,putting rivalry aside i am really pleased that the truth has finally came out.Our thoughts are with all involved.
quinner99
12 Sep 2012 15:48:04
We will always remember them,
We will always be with you.
Our support now as strong as ever,
You and we, will never walk alone.
Irish Red Dog
12 Sep 2012 15:43:02
Hi I am a Man Utd fan I am so glad that the truth has finally been found out for all the families of the Hillsborough disaster. I am a true Utd fan and have been disgusted by the way that it has took so long for this to come to light. All my respect to all those involved with the families and panel. Lets just hope that someone is finally held to account for this now. My deepest sympathies for all that passed away on that day. I have been watching this on sky news and am disgusted about the way that it was all covered up by the police, ambulance service etc etc who
12 Sep 2012 15:33:34
I am an Evertonian and would just like to say it is about time someone came out and apolagised to all family friends and fans of liverpool football club.
Its been a long time over due and now hopefully the truth and justice will be next.
Micky
12 Sep 2012 15:31:54
96 brave souls. May you and your familys be at peace.
WBD
12 Sep 2012 15:14:28
For once I hope the front pages of 2moros newspapers have the headline.
"THE TRUTH"
Well done to the familys for never giving up, the truth is finally out.
It's up to them if they feel justice has been served.
If they know the police reports where falsified though, then surely they must know by whom?
MIKEY
12 Sep 2012 15:11:20
Sholud anyone wish to download a copy of the report, here is a link:
official-documents.gov.uk/document/hc1213/hc05/0581/0581.pdf
As you're all aware, it is a big document, so the file may take a while to download.
Redjinal
12 Sep 2012 15:11:04
Prime Minister David Cameron offered a "profound" apology to the families of the 96 people who died, telling the House of Commons that today's report made clear that "the Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster".
"On behalf of the Government - and indeed our country - I am profoundly sorry for this double injustice that has been left uncorrected for so long.
Thank you sir for accepting the truth.
r-r
While it's great that Cameron has said this, why is our current PM apologising for things that happened when he was still a spliff smoking student,he should be applauded for allowing the details out,Major, Blair and Brown should be saying sorry for 23 yrs of hiding the truth
12 Sep 2012 15:07:58
Please DO NOT react to the human filth who have hit the disagree button on the various Hillsborough posts, they are looking for a reaction. DO NOT GIVE IT TO THEM!
Waro
Got to be honest mate, scrolling through the posts today i never even looked at the agree /disagree, but for the filth that has pressed disagree, i hope you never loose a family member in a disaster and are left for 23 years before you get the answers as to why your loved one has passed away, some of which were little more than babies! Hang your heads.
12 Sep 2012 15:03:13
The Report of The Hillsborough Independent Panel should have a profound impact on all of football, and rightly so. Let it never be forgotten though who made this happen, the people of Liverpool. It makes me damn proud to be a Liverpudlian, and know that when you REALLY need it, the great people of this magnificent city will never let you down. It brings home the real meaning of our club's famous anthem.
Justice is on it's way, and not before time.
KBL
12 Sep 2012 15:02:18
Justice to the 96!
YNWA
The real AG
12 Sep 2012 15:01:12
There is an old saying "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." We in the Liverpool FC family know this well but not like the family's of the 96 victims of that tragic day at Hillsborough. The HIP findings that 41 of our brothers and sisters had evidence that their hearts and lungs were working after the 3.15 pm time frame and could possible have been saved with the correct response is so difficult to wrap your head around. I feel for the families today. I feel for people like Scouser Tommy who like many others were there and so close to this tragedy. The LFC fans have been exonerated. Glad you are with us mate. I hope today the healing can start for the families and the 96 can finally rest in peace. There's a new saying too ""A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes, but the TRUTH will prevail and travel the whole way around the world". Finally we have Justice for the 96 and let the DPP and attorney general finish and close this the right way.
Chi-Paul
12 Sep 2012 15:00:55
everton fan here would just like to say congratulations for the 96 lfc fans and there familys justice finally came may they rest in peace .stef the blue
12 Sep 2012 14:54:28
HI everone.
As we expected, a disgusting cover up and dirty campaign against innocent fans is now in the domain.
I feel the families who lost loved ones might feel a little relief the truth is out, may also feel more hurt by the unveiling revelations and the fact that 41 of the 96 who lost their lives had the potential to survive. how will the families react to this revelation.
There is good and bad to come out of today's findings and I feel deeply saddened that there will be more hurt to be endured by so many.
its a horrible state of affairs and I hope the families have the strength to deal with more pain bestowed upon them because of these revelations. God bless these families.
Twenty Three long years of wait for justice and to let the 96 be able to rest in peace.
God Bless The 96.
Red Robin
12 Sep 2012 14:48:39
To all the families that have campaigned to get the TRUTH god bless you all. You are all heroes.
I am saying this with a tear down my eye, let's hope that the right people pay for the lies. 23 years to get this far but the campaign as been as strong as day one.
JFT 96
Mighty reds
12 Sep 2012 14:48:23
I am seriously proud of all the scousers.you guys could have been selfish and could hav said to yourself,he is not my brother,not my sister,why should i worry about him.but u guys fought and got justice and showed the world what it means to be the liverpool family.serously proud hats off ,no words and hope those police chutiyas get fc***d upside down
INDIAN SCOUSER YNWA
12 Sep 2012 14:47:14
I think this site today shows a clear indication that it doesn't matter what team you go and support on a Saturday, that people stick together when it really matters.
To all those supporters of other clubs who posted their support for the cause, you thoughts are well recieved by all i'm sure and made me proud to be a football fan.
JJD
12 Sep 2012 14:45:45
Just a quick post to say my thoughts are with the 96 who lost there lives that day and hope that today will provide some sort of healing for the families affected. Obviously lots of questions still have to be answered but hopefully this can begin a healing process which provides answers and a true account of what happened on that dark day, not before time as well.
Rjmanutd
12 Sep 2012 14:42:53
So glad the truth is out.hope it is followed by justice.
Jab EFC jft96
12 Sep 2012 14:41:23
Hai ed..Massive work...
Massive respect to 96...
The last man to lead a spanish team to La liga other than real and barca...and will always be him..
Rafa Benitez..
The Last man to take liverpool to CL....and will remain as such..
Rafa Benitez..
We replaced him with 3 managers now..
take another 30..still no one will come close to him..
If HIs spending is some people problem..
then look real, barca, chelsea, and other europeon gaints..
they have all sold their players on loss...
Kakka, Zlatan, Robinho, etc etc..
respect to rafa benitez..
Respect to rafa yes, but he's not coming back now get over it.
Most fans including myself believe he had a massive part in bringing our club to it's knees and he's the main reason we can no longer compete.
MIKEY
You are one kickass man,Rafa is one kickass guy,the only man over whom me and ed001 have a difference of opinion(i hv a feeling tat me and ed001 think very similarly)and last but not the least JUSTICE FOR THE 96 and liverpool is the only thing which makes me type.
INDIAN SCOUSER YNWA
Can we now please please please move on from Rafael Benitez?
Yes he did great things for LFC but with that came many mistakes too. He is no longer our manager bloody hell. How can it be made up that no other manager will come close to him? Rafa only delivered TWO major trophies in six seasons people. THAT IS RIGHT, ONLY TWO. Success of a manager is based on TROPHIES, YES THAT IS RIGHT, TROPHIES. TWO major trophies (none in Rafa's last four seasons by the way) suggests that it will not be that difficult to surpass two trophies.
We need to move on PLEASE. Rodgers is our manager now. GET WITH THE TIMES and move on from Rafa as his chances of managing LFC again are next to nothing while FSG are in charge. He has been without a job since being sacked by Inter. Why is the question?
Red4Life
Sorry mate we wont move on until we win the premier, and 4 that its only 1 person RAFA THE GRAFFA
MIKEY-not at all, no way do most fans at all believe Rafa brought this club to its knees, maybe some simpletons like yourself might believe that, but defo it's a minority and a tiny one at that.
JohnnyBoy
Where not moving on though, where moving down.
Rafa did a good job but he took us as far as he could 2nd then we faded again. We need a manager who will work on the youngster and bring in bargins to develop them. We don't have the funds to support rafa's spending. Let's see how well rodgers can do with a very limited budget compared to Utd, City, Chelsea, Spurs etc.
Got a feeling it will come good. On a Day like today, I hope fans just respect the club and the families that have finally got truth and really get behind the club this year.
Wouldn't it be amazing if we could as fans help roar the team to champs league and then we can look back and say 2012 was the year we found not only the truth but got Champions league football again! At last!
Then we can start building for Prem!
Jordan
Not being funny rafa spent alot of money(so did daglish), most he spent on a player was fernando torres and alberto aquilani torres for £20 mill and aquilani for round about same price we lost alot on aquilani but made a £30 million profit on torres.
Dont forget in his time we won the champions league f.a.cup and finished second narrowly missing out on the league, gave us unforgettable nights and a winning mentality which i havnt seen in liverpool since his departure.
And anyone forgetting the academy we have now and all these youngsters that everyone is so desperate to see in the liverpool first team e.g sterling,suso,morgan THATS BECAUSE OF RAFA AND WITH THAT ACADEMY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONVEYOR BELT OF YOUNGSTERS FOR YEARS TO COME.
Y.N.W.A RAFA
ACHILLES.
Although Rafa was manager the youth players were bought in by Pep Segura!
12 Sep 2012 14:37:34
that tadic looked quite good last night against wales but i think that he just moved to fc twente so maybe next summer?
Dusan tadic is a fantastic player one thats under the radar he got round bout 17 assists last season for gronigen and scored 10 goals he is a good player better than downing anyway mind you my 8 month old nephew is a better player than downing he's a better dribbler put it that way lol
ACHILLES.
12 Sep 2012 14:33:01
Would like to thank everyone for the work for the 96.A long time comeing.MATTYLFC
12 Sep 2012 14:31:18
No Words
Just Tears - More Tears
Yes 23 years of tears for the guilt that I walked away from that disaster leaving behind 96 of our Liverpool family and not being able to do anything to help them I cant thank the familes who have fought so hard and so long to bring the truth to the eyes of the world god bless you all and the 96
12 Sep 2012 14:28:27
The truth is finally out, its been confirmed what we all knew. 96 football fans lost there lives due to incompetence, and the South Yorkshire Police, known for malpractice and corruption instigated a smear campaign to divert blame. Finally some relief for the families. Merseyside as a community should feel proud of how it has carried its self. JFT96
Dan
12 Sep 2012 14:25:59
All those families and friends who have lost loved ones, our hearts go out to you. Nothing can ever compensate for the losses you have felt.
We are all so very proud of your courage, guts and strength in your unwavering faith and belief that ninety six good, decent, innocent people will finally receive justice.
We are truly honoured to stand together alongside you.
God bless you all
YNWA JFT96
12 Sep 2012 14:23:32
It is such a relief after all these years to hear the truth and I hope justice will now follow.
God bless all those who did not give up
I just want to say sorry. I hit the disagree button by mistake. Once again sorry. Warr68
12 Sep 2012 14:20:52
Truly overwhelmed with emotion watching all the events unfold. That fateful day is one that I (and I'm sure everyone) will never forget. I was 7 playing football with a friend when his dad asked what my dad was doing and I told him he had gone to the game. His face dropped and said you better get home quickly. I ran home and saw my old man doing some work in the garden. I was confused and relieved and happy, but I didn't know what for. My dad told me what had happened and that he didn't go to the game because they felt unsafe and crushed the year before. That felt like the luckiest day of my life. Sadly that was not the case for 96 fans and their families.
The fight, desire, dedication and sheer we will not lie down attitude has always gripped me. Justice for the 96 chants gives me goose bumps and the colossal strength and togetherness shown by all those deeply affected by this tragedy in the face of public damnation from some sectors is quite awe inspiring. The olympics may bring to light the human spirit and courage but this is something the families of the 96 have shown by the bucket load for the past 23 years.
I am so pleased that today they have been vindicated in their search for the truth and that hopefully this serves as a huge stepping stone to bring justice for the 96.
Cheers
Greggers
Well written Greggers.
12 Sep 2012 14:13:22
Not before time
JFT96
cozinoz
12 Sep 2012 14:04:59
Arsenal fan in peace, glad the filth have finally come out and apologised to you! Everyone involved should be truly ashamed of themselves. Great fans and great people are the Scousers
Colin
Thank you mate , i'm sure the sympathy and support of fans like yourself have helped the families
when there was none from the government and media.
Cheers Colin. Despite rivalries in footie, we are all one.
You are very welcome, rivalry means nothing at all to me when things like that happen. So glad the truth is coming out and the families can hopefully get a little peace. As for the clown who disagreed with my post, well done and hope you are pleased with your little self!!
Colin
12 Sep 2012 14:00:17
As a utd fan of 35 years ,with a lot of family on merseyside, may i just say that after 23 long painful years for all those who suffered that terrible day, i hope that as from today you feel a little less pain, you have been vindicated in your quest for the truth, good luck in your ongoing campaign for
justice, south yorks police, the sun, kelvin mckenzie, and others, i dont know how you sleep at night.
Good on you mate.
12 Sep 2012 13:44:51
Ed002 thanks for the reply. With the brake away. So what your saying is, there will be so much money all the clubs in it will be able to compete with the sugar daddy teams. If not there is no benefit to the teams without a billionaire, why leave a system that you can compete in, to go in to a league where we have the same problem as we do now
Love your thoughts
Murray {Ed002's Note - I think you are perhaps over playing the recent investment in certain teams. Not being able to compete is certainly not a consideration teams will be giving in this matter.}
12 Sep 2012 13:44:35
Hi to all,just a quick message to Liverpool fans on this long awaited day. Thoughts go out to all effected. Great fans,great club. All the best
Flybo the Gooner
12 Sep 2012 13:39:54
God bless the 96 and their families. Good to see the truth is finally coming out, though I am sure this time is not an easy one. Leeds fans always remember the KOP's great behaviour on 28 april 1968. True football.
12 Sep 2012 13:38:56
Whatever our results are this season, whatever trophies we do or do not win, whoever we do or do not sign is so insignificent. The fact that the real truth as to what happened and the start of justice for the 96 victims is the greatest victory we could ever have.
Rafa's Purple Goatie
12 Sep 2012 13:38:20
All the best today guys. JFT96
Melbourne CFC
12 Sep 2012 13:37:57
I am happy and sad at the same time.
Finally thre truth is out.
We will never forget the 96 and their families.
YNWA
Mr Slonk The Red
12 Sep 2012 13:36:38
Finally, they can all RIP.
We have an apology, there is still to be a discussion in the house of lords.
The families of all those lost loved ones on that day will never forget, we as Liverpool FC will never forget. My thoughts and prayers are with you today and always.
Sweet corn
12 Sep 2012 13:31:13
Vindication! Thinking of the families a real travesty
Pardoe
12 Sep 2012 13:31:06
Hillsborough.....the truth is out there.
Justice for the 96.....please
12 Sep 2012 13:26:00
Cardiff City fan here. At last the truth is being revealed , utmost respect for the families and campaigners who fought for this.JFT96
12 Sep 2012 13:22:59
Havnt felt satisfaction like this in a long, long time. so happy for all of the families involved and every liverpool supporter out there.
LFC-IRE
12 Sep 2012 13:15:58
From all of us Blues across the park
We have and always will be as one.
EFC/LFC one family through thick and thin
God bless all the 96, their family and friends, never be forgotten
Degsybluenose
Well said mate! Days like today football takes the back seat and people stand strong together united as one!
Gman82
JFT96
YNWA
Hear hear. now they can rest in peace dave sunderland afc
Thank you Degsy, let's hope the police who lied and accused me and thousands like me of causing this terrible tragedy are brought to account in a court of law! And that rag of a newspaper and the editor at the time are also brought to task with criminal charges! I hope the TRUTH finally coming to light will now give those poor familys who lost loved ones some crumb of comfort and vindication of there never ending fight for justice for there sons and daughters, and I take my hat off to all of them for overcoming all the odds and getting todays verdict after 23 years of fighting. Myself and my 5 mates who were in the Leppings Lane end were saved by pure luck and I can't imagine how my family and my friends familys would have coped had any of us passed away! God bless the 96 and there familys I hope you can all now find some peace at last! AND SHAME ON THE PEOPLE WHO DENIED THEM THIS!!!!
Waro
12 Sep 2012 13:12:56
JFT96. Hope the families of the poor lost souls get justice after so long.
A momentus day, they should all feel so proud of their efforts over the last 23 years.
My thoughts are with them all.
Ultra Red
12 Sep 2012 13:10:32
Celtic fan here. Absolutely shocked at all the cover ups in the Hillsborough disaster. South Yorkshire police should never be forgiven for this. They will forever have blood on their hands. I hope the families can get closer from the documents and bring justice to those innocent 96 lives that was lost that tragic day.
YNWAJFT96
MikeyBhoy88
12 Sep 2012 13:09:35
Tears in my eyes right now...JFT96
Square tomato
12 Sep 2012 12:56:50
8551 days it has taken to hear any form of an apology from the Government about Hillsborough
12 Sep 2012 12:55:29
Im over the moon for the familys and the people of Liverpool that had there lifes affected by that day. Im a Scotsman, A celtic fan and a Liverpool fan and Im happy the goverment has finally had the balls to stand up and clear the names and legacy of these mighty fans that lost there lifes on that terrible day.
i feel these people that tried to cover it up and blame the fans should be held accountable in a court of law and be sent to jail for trying to prevent the course of justice. I cant believe its took 23 years, that makes me sick to the core and I truely feel the people of liverpool have been tard with this brush for far to long. The fans werent drunk, ticketless or out of order. Its was the police and other emergency services that truely could have done alot more and maybe saved so many more lifes and save so much more heartache.
And lastly to the 96 and the familys of all involved, my heart goes out to yous all and Im glad this may finally be put right. YNWA
Scottyboy 1888
12 Sep 2012 12:52:47
Manchester United fan here, The truth has been known for 23 yrs and today finally you get what you've all been aching for, justice in the form of an apology by the government. rest in peace the 96 fans who didn't return from a day out watching their beloved team play in a game of football.
Flyhalf(Mitch)
Nice one mate. Football fans all over the world will have banter. This is more serious than that. It is only about justice. It could have been any team at any ground. Thanks again.
Robbie
Too right Robbie, we'll leave the banter for another day, today is about justice, respect and remembrance.
Flyhalf(Mitch)
12 Sep 2012 12:48:30
Sat here listening to the house of commons statements. Tears in my eyes at the statements. Maybe, just maybe the whole truth will now come out. JUSTICE , that is all that we want. I was one of the lucky ones. Thanks to all supporters of all clubs who have supported this campaign.
Robbie
12 Sep 2012 12:34:30
Hope you all get what you deserve today with the Panel Report.
Good Luck.
JFT96
OsgoodIsKing
Thanks OsgoodIsKing - as a Hillsborough survivor we've had to put up with lies and accusations over the fans actions for 23 years. Hillsborough was not just a distaster for LFC and the city of Liverpool, it was a tragedy for the whole of the country and was an incident waiting to happen. rubbishty grounds and a police force that treated fans with nothing but contempt. Hillsborough could have happened to any club.
Scouser Tommy
You have the backing of every football fan worldwide.
JFT 96
OsgoodIsKing
12 Sep 2012 11:42:42
Ed's can you tell me about suso's contract situation? Will he get the new long term contract like shelvey,skrtel,and suarez? And how about agger? He said that he not get any offer yet from Liverpool.
Sorry for my bad english, i still learn. Thx.. {Ed002's Note - I really don't know what is happening with teh contracts at this time.}
12 Sep 2012 12:04:10
I hope the families will receive the answers they need today. 23 years of waiting is utterly shameful. Justice for 96 innocent people. YNWA. Gone but NEVER forgotten.
Rafa's Purple Goatie
12 Sep 2012 09:58:07
Know it's ages until the window opens again,but what are the chances of new players arriving in january?.
Hopefully very high. Carroll back from West Ham. Fingers crossed
Carroll is injured for weeks. he looks great because west ham play rugby. 11 goals in 58 apps isn't a striker i personally want back anytime soon
12 Sep 2012 09:57:25
Fsg when are you going to sell the club your not wanted you never were. All yonks are the same but there is no money to be made at Liverpool so why don't fsg do 1 worthless yonks
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Fsg in my eyes are setting the club up for the future with the new fair play rules coming in, the
club will be in a stable finnancial posistion and ahead of the other clubs with the investment that is being brought into the club.
rome wasnt built in a day and it doesnt matter how much money you have where liverpool are
it will take years of rebuilding. the foundations are being laid of the pitch to bring success on it.
and i for 1 with the posistion the club was in with the previous owners, would rather still have liverpool fc around to support.
But there are bigger things going on today justice for the 96.
golden slumbers
Heres what will happen to the New FFP rules
Take chelsea as an example
How many corporate boxes do chelsea have?
Let say that have 10
Roman will sell each box for 10M each to family (he'll pay for each box of course) there's 100m raised with no hassle and so the story continues
There are many ways around the FFP rules {Ed002's Note - Why do you bother typing such rubbish.}
12 Sep 2012 09:40:00
Nothing to do with transfer rumours but I urge all Liverpool fans to take in the coverage of the Panel Report today.
23 years ago I went to game in Sheffield and nearly never came home. I was one of the lucky ones. I got trapped on a barrier near the front of pen C. The barrier next to me collapsed and broke and Anne Williams boy Kevin was on that barrier. Kevin died at 4pm. Let's hope that today's Report leads to Kevin and the other 95 poor souls finally getting some justice.
Don't buy the Sun.
Scouser Tommy
Who disagreed with this? knob heads
How can anyone disagree with this post?
Should be ashamed of themselves
JFT96
EFCwhitesocks
What 2 persons have disagreed with this
Sometimes people using android or mobile touch-screen phones may accidentally hit the disagree button as they are scrolling down a page, if someone did click dislike on purpose then they should be ashamed of themselves.
Rocky
12 Sep 2012 09:37:56
Just want to remind everyone to try their best to get down to St Georges hall between 5pm and 6pm tonight to support the families of the 96, lets show them that they will NEVER WALK ALONE
Would love to be in St. George's today. On the nightshift and finish in a few hours but by the time 8:06am arrives I'll have found a quiet spot downtown here for 2 minutes to remember (3:06pm back home)
23 years on and it doesn't get any easier, I really hope today brings the truth.
JFT96 & a heartfelt Y.N.W.A.
Cuchulainn's Hounds
I would like to be there also, unfortunately I'm in Angola at the moment. I too was there that day, it's something which is still very emotional to talk about even after all those years.
YNWA
12 Sep 2012 08:48:08
Put everything into perspective that is going on with our club at the moment.....it nothing to what we are going to find out today and hopefully the truth we be released.....JUSTICE FOR THE 96
12 Sep 2012 08:31:33
Fsg when are you going to sell the club your not wanted you never were. All yonks are the same but there is no money to be made at Liverpool so why don't fsg do 1 worthless yonks
U say this but FSG saved us from financial ruin. when they took over we were days away from receivership and a min of 9 point deduction if it happened.
dont try and say the didnt put money into the club the money they spent was spent on mostly averge players and their transfer fees were inflated + wages. there were moneys cut off the wage bill and FSG are looking into what happened.
They saved us and are trying to make a stable club and once BR's style will work in the long run.
IRISHRED1995
They saved us from administration & have pumped well over 100m into the club. Show some respect
BobD94
That's it...bang out a quick one before the school bus arrives.
FSG are not wanted by you and the other 1% of the persons who want to risk the long term future of our great club.
Things have been unstable for years and you want to change owners again!?
So we get FSG out and sell to someone who promises hundreds of millions of pounds for transfers and delivers nothing! Or spend a fortune and turns his back on the club leaving us facing administration!
We have had years of over spending, we should not be in this position, last year we were paying huge salaries for players that were out on loan and paid off players contracts. We probably wasted £20m+ last year through miss management over the past 4-5 years and that isn't even taking into account the astronomical fees paid last year for players.
Things will turn around, more often than not the grass is not always greener on the other side and I for one are very grateful FSG rescued our club when we faced going out of business.
As usual 1% of a group tarnish the reputation of millions!
GGK
We all want FSG = We all want to go nowhere in the EPL or CL
12 Sep 2012 08:20:54
Drogba on his way back to prem? Both Arsenal and Liverpool very interested.
Rumours are it is just Arsenal... to be honest, I don't think Liverpool can afford him if they want we want to reduce the losses we're currently making.
Don't think Arsenal will want to afford him.
12 Sep 2012 06:05:37
Hi ED's, Just a query. We all that our chances of finishing in top 4 this season are quite slim. Now, if by any chance we go on to win or reach the final of Europa League. will there be any chance of us making the champions league stages. Love this site. Thanks.
Satish {Ed002's Note - To get in to the Champions League a club needs to finish in the top four in the league or win it. It is nothing whatsoever to do with the Europa League.}
12 Sep 2012 00:51:51
Eds, more of a question 4 ya.
do you know if yesil, suso and assaidi are on the squad list 4 this wkends game at sunderland? i hope so. even if they only make the bench, it would be good!
jim {Ed002's Note - No idea, it is far too early to say who will play.}
Reina will not start at the weekend ..........
12 Sep 2012 03:14:09
What's up with Javier Mascherano (spelling), has he not got anything better to do at Barca (meddling little prat!).
Lets face it! If Agger went there poor Javier Mascherano would be put on the bench aha!
Mascherano is obviously an person, cos lets face it, if Agger joins Mascherano wont get a game, they've bought Song from Arsenal, they have Busquettes in their midfield so i cant see Mascherano getting anywhere near their starting line-up. So for basically tapping up Agger, i'm glad Mascherano will inevitably end up out in the cold at Barca.
Rocky
12 Sep 2012 00:17:30
The 96 victims of the Hillsborough Disaster were:
John Alfred Anderson (62)
Colin Mark Ashcroft (19)
James Gary Aspinall (18)
Kester Roger Marcus Ball (16)
Gerard Bernard Patrick Baron (67)
Simon Bell (17)
Barry Sidney Bennett (26)
David John Benson (22)
David William Birtle (22)
Tony Bland (22)
Paul David Brady (21)
Andrew Mark Brookes (26)
Carl Brown (18)
David Steven Brown (25)
Henry Thomas Burke (47)
Peter Andrew Burkett (24)
Paul William Carlile (19)
Raymond Thomas Chapman (50)
Gary Christopher Church (19)
Joseph Clark (29)
Paul Clark (18)
Gary Collins (22)
Stephen Paul Copoc (20)
Tracey Elizabeth Cox (23)
James Philip Delaney (19)
Christopher Barry Devonside (18)
Christopher Edwards (29)
Vincent Michael Fitzsimmons (34)
Thomas Steven Fox (21)
Jon-Paul Gilhooley (10)
Barry Glover (27)
Ian Thomas Glover (20)
Derrick George Godwin (24)
Roy Harry Hamilton (34)
Philip Hammond (14)
Eric Hankin (33)
Gary Harrison (27)
Stephen Francis Harrison (31)
Peter Andrew Harrison (15)
David Hawley (39)
James Robert Hennessy (29)
Paul Anthony Hewitson (26)
Carl Darren Hewitt (17)
Nicholas Michael Hewitt (16)
Sarah Louise Hicks (19)
Victoria Jane Hicks (15)
Gordon Rodney Horn (20)
Arthur Horrocks (41)
Thomas Howard (39)
Thomas Anthony Howard (14)
Eric George Hughes (42)
Alan Johnston (29)
Christine Anne Jones (27)
Gary Philip Jones (18)
Richard Jones (25)
Nicholas Peter Joynes (27)
Anthony Peter Kelly (29)
Michael David Kelly (38)
Carl David Lewis (18)
David William Mather (19)
Brian Christopher Mathews (38)
Francis Joseph McAllister (27)
John McBrien (18)
Marion Hazel McCabe (21)
Joseph Daniel McCarthy (21)
Peter McDonnell (21)
Alan McGlone (28)
Keith McGrath (17)
Paul Brian Murray (14)
Lee Nicol (14)
Stephen Francis O'Neill (17)
Jonathon Owens (18)
William Roy Pemberton (23)
Carl William Rimmer (21)
David George Rimmer (38)
Graham John Roberts (24)
Steven Joseph Robinson (17)
Henry Charles Rogers (17)
Colin Andrew Hugh William Sefton (23)
Inger Shah (38)
Paula Ann Smith (26)
Adam Edward Spearritt (14)
Philip John Steele (15)
David Leonard Thomas (23)
Patrik John Thompson (35)
Peter Reuben Thompson (30)
Stuart Paul William Thompson (17)
Peter Francis Tootle (21)
Christopher James Traynor (26)
Martin Kevin Traynor (16)
Kevin Tyrrell (15)
Colin Wafer (19)
Ian David Whelan (19)
Martin Kenneth Wild (29)
Kevin Daniel Williams (15)
Graham John Wright (17)
We will never forget our 96 angels who went to a football game and never returned home.
JFT96, You'll never walk alone.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Lets hope they get some justice today !!
Nicely put Blair
Eric the red
Thank you Blair
Chris in Tamworth
I hope its not a false dawn, and the truth comes out. YNWA 96 souls. All the best.
KNEE JERK
R.I.P . YNWA
Never forgotten.
Square tomato
It kinds of hits home a bit more when you see all the names written down like that.
Shows the true scale of the disaster more than a number.
I'm 26 so I'm too young to remember that day, I'm shocked it's taken most of my lifetime to get where we are today.
MIKEY
96
JFT96. RIP.
WBD
God bless the 96 and every one who feels this pain. ynwa red mick tag
12 Sep 2012 00:06:00
Eds if there is a breakaway European league will Liverpool be a part of it? Would you rather stay in the local league or join the European league if it happens?
Keith YNWA {Ed002's Note - We are some way off right now so we need to wait.}
11 Sep 2012 23:48:34
Coverage of the Hillsbourough Independent Panel report. Is on LFC.TV today at 12 o'clock.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
11 Sep 2012 23:44:41
I would just like to say that although Gerrard had a bit of a mare against Arsenal he is still a world class midfielder. This may well be one of his last seasons but the guy has done more than anyone for the team in the last decade and with this in mind maybe we should give him a bit of slack. Seems to be more and more criticism of him on the site.
McB
11 Sep 2012 23:29:45
Gerrard hits 30-50 yard pin-point passes this evening.
Sell him ! He is like Carroll.
He doesn't fit the tikka-takka system.
The football genius Rodgers and the beancounters will not allow this. Back to the goalie and only 10 metre passes. That is the system. Do as you are told ! So should the Eds and supporters here. Do as you are told !
Rebelde
The passes were great but I have 3 questions for you. 1. How long did England keep the ball after those passes? 2. What % of those passes lead to a goal scoring opportunities? 3. Did England win?
Simon
11 Sep 2012 22:32:58
Hi ed's how true is it that we are planning redeveloping anfield, with the main stand 1st followed by anfield to make it into a 60,000 all seater?
Thanks
JFT96
Y..N..W..A
JFT96
D.H.H {Ed002's Note - I suspect that may be on the agenda.}
It will be a ground share with the toffees yet another cheap option for the jokers that claim to run theclub
11 Sep 2012 22:03:26
Hey ed(s) wats ur take on FSG wanting to bring in this technical commitee? I think this is going to undermine rodgers's judgement on transfers aswell as other footballing matters. And the other thing is who this commitee going be made up of typical money grabbing yonkee businessmen with no idea of the footballing game?
I fully support FSG and there ambitions for LFC but have to say i think this may be a bad move.
ACHILLES. {Ed002's Note - I think you need to get over your xenophobia. Whatever the owners do to try and help the situation will get abuse from a growing percentile of fans.}
Yip.
What started as a ripple on the water is now a wave.
The dislike and distrust of FSG grows, and one could argue it may be for good reason.
Cabernet.
11 Sep 2012 21:46:58
Will Stevie get a PL ban? {Ed002's Note - No.}