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12 Nov 2016 22:31:38
How do I post a pic eds? Trying to put up a pic me mate sent me but I'm not sure how? It's a little game everyone can play!
Thanks.
{Ed033's Note - You go to the Liverpool Sightings page, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on 'Choose file', then choose an image and click Submit.
12 Nov 2016 19:51:21
AL is becoming our rues. klopp has has got him moving the ball quicker don't you think?
12 Nov 2016 22:24:10
I understand what you mean.
Lallana has gone from looking expendable to looking indispensable in the space of a pre-season.
It is truly remarkable. I know people point at the Burnley game but we dominated that game and got stung by their only 2 shots. Our actual worst 2 games this season in terms of performance were against Swansea and United. Both games we were missing Lallana for 70 minutes.
I think Lallana is critical to our play both on and off the ball. When we are on the ball he just has so much energy that he is always making clever or unselfish runs, linking the play or dragging markers away to open up space. Off the ball he is always the one who initiates the press. He is so determined to get the ball back and when he goes for the press it forces others to follow.
Is he our best player? No. Is he critical to our style of play? Undeniably.
13 Nov 2016 00:01:09
If I'm honest I believe it is Klopp and the combination of players playing to their strengths that is making us play so well.
Coutunho is critised before this season but when you have static players he doesn't play as well, Mane and Frimho allow him both space and the ability to play key passes to others.
The same applies to lallana; I still get frustrated at him at times but he is using the ball better now and not slowing down the play as much. Importantly he is scoring and assisting in goals which means that he is contributing more. The movement up front allows he to exploit spaces and he has options to pass to, score or assist.
I've been supporting the team for 40 years now and we are playing some of our best football at the moment; its breath taking (going forward) - IMO even more so than 2013/ 2014.
Even Matip assists as he can bring the ball forward if needed so we have options and idea's - IMO we're ahead of where I expected us to be this season, but credit to all the players and the way they have stepped up - none more so than lallana and Milner.
13 Nov 2016 08:21:27
Hoola
I would go back even further than that. It reminds ne of our form under dalglish with a front 4 of Aldridge, Barnes, Beardsley and Johnston.
13 Nov 2016 09:25:57
Aggerdo, it was Aldridge, Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton. The Burnley game now just looks like one of those bad days at the office and one that Klopp learned very quickly from. Lallana has also upped his fitness and strength, it's not often that he's out muscled or starts to drop energy levels after 70 minutes any more, it shows that he's got the right mentality that he wants to apply himself and improve for the team.
13 Nov 2016 12:41:47
Barnes was my favorite player - the way (before injury) he glided past players was amazing; I remember players talking about how they couldn't get the ball off him in training.
But yeap those were good times 5 0 against 2nd place Nott Forest - was a complete display; let's hope we get near that a few times this season!
12 Nov 2016 18:36:56
If Mane goes to the AFCON then I would prefer it if we let Origi, Ejaria or Ojo (if he returns in time) cover in his absence. We will need someone who offers the same sort of pace and power, as well as desire to run in behind and/ or attack the box. Sturridge (if he consciously tried to be more direct) could even do the same job. I really hope we don't sign someone for a 4 week absentee. Might as well start making signings to replace players when they catch a virus!
12 Nov 2016 19:20:04
If we are still top/ Close to top in Jan, I don't mind we signing another fast winger. Mane has pace which gives us a different dimension, opposition defenders can't play very high line. Don't see Chelsea, City, Arsenal, ManU relying on youngsters. If we playing CL nextyear youngsters will definitely get their chance. 27 years is a long time, LiverpoolFC comes first then any player/ Youngster.
{Ed001's Note - how old is Sterling? Stones? What about the likes of Rashford, Shaw, Lingard etc that United have been relying on? Your post is just ridiculous. It is not relying on a youngster to give them a month to provide cover. Idiotic to suggest we buy cover for a month-long tournie.}
12 Nov 2016 19:40:30
We don't need to sign anybody at all, I agree with you MK and ed1, it'd be a stupid move.
12 Nov 2016 19:46:26
GoanRed, maybe sign another Assaidi, El Zhar or Babel?
Because when you tell a player they are coming in to play for a month and then they will be benched, that is the quality of player you will attract!
Unbelievable. The most successful team in the modern era is Barcelona and they have been one of the leading clubs for trusting in their youth.
12 Nov 2016 19:48:50
i can't see us doing much in Jan, the squad looks good right now and I think we may have a big summer coming up in terms of ins/ outs would rather we focused on getting the right players then than plugging gaps half way through a season.
12 Nov 2016 20:09:43
But recently klopp hinted we may buy a wiinger in Jan. It really depends on what klopp thinks/ wants tho. Whatever he decides I'll back him👍👊.
12 Nov 2016 20:47:35
I wouldn't argue with that Kopitef. If Klopp genuinely doesn't believe our kids are good enough to cover for 4 or 5 games then fair enough. For me though, that is one hell of a kick in the teeth for the young lads. I would like to think that if he signs someone it is because he thinks we lack that in the squad already, and not just to replace someone away on international duty for a month!
12 Nov 2016 21:08:32
I also think Origi will step straight into the team, he deserves an opportunity, and I don't think Klopp will put Firmino out wide, for Sturridge to come in. I agree also that Ejaria had played really well in his cameos, and will get more chances when Mane goes off. I don't want us to sign anyone in January personally, perhaps a CB if I had to choose, but there would be a lot of pressure on an attacker to come in a perform from the start, given the fluidity of our attack so far.
12 Nov 2016 22:30:16
It's like saying we're going to sign someone to replace a player who is injured for a month.
13 Nov 2016 09:28:20
To my mind we have youngsters who can fill in for Mane, Ojo stands out a mile in that capacity as he's got pace to burn and looks a good winger and I imagine that Klopp will get the best out of him.
13 Nov 2016 12:05:36
Ejaria or Ojo for me.
13 Nov 2016 18:36:29
Or give Harry Wilson a go if Ojo is still injured.
12 Nov 2016 16:35:43
I can't really see Liverpool being open to losing Couts and Firmino in the same year. I can see Couts going but i guess Liverpool will play hardball with Firmino for a least 1 season more. Gutted all the same that it can happen tho. We need to be competing for the league and in the Champions League to encourage these players to hang around a while longer than just see us as a stepping stone.
12 Nov 2016 17:32:26
Good point that Rover. Top 4 cup wouldn't be any good enough. Look at Spurs and Arsenal for example. I hope we go for the title this season.
12 Nov 2016 18:30:46
Couts is only 24 think he should give it to 26 at least.
12 Nov 2016 19:50:04
That's easy for us to say mr naughty but if he gets an offer from Barcelona I'm not sure he could turn it down.
12 Nov 2016 16:02:10
Maxime Lopez looks a magnificent player and I would welcome Liverpool interest in the player. He will be a very good addition.
12 Nov 2016 17:08:13
He is 18. If he was in our academy you would be losing your mind at the prospect of him replacing Coutinho or Firmino ;)
I agree he looks a good player but he is probably not going to come in as a regular. He would likely take up a role similar to that of Grujic. A cup player with occasional league cameos.
12 Nov 2016 17:30:41
MK
And how many of your academy players are being chased by Barcelona and other heavy weights? The point is I have not seen anyone from our academh who would replace Coutinho ( If he does move this summer ) .
12 Nov 2016 18:24:10
You literally just blinker everything to suit your argument. Cameron Brannagan has been unsuccessfully chased by Barcelona for the last year for a start.
Your point is redundant anyway as the top u18 European players all tend to come to England anyway as we have much more lenient laws with regards to offering kids big contracts. Hence why the likes of Pique, Fabregas, Bellerin, Adenkanye, Chirivella and Canos ended up in English academies despite being Spanish or starting out in Spanish academies.
I digress, in my opinion Lopez is no better than the likes of Wilson, Ejaria, Brannagan, Ojo etc. Personally I don't see the point in signing him. Our academy is rich in talent for players of his ilk. So much so that we can sell them off every year and keep the production line going with ease; Ince, Suso, Sterling, Teixeira, Ibe etc. The scary thing is that the next players in line seem to just be getting better by the year. Lopez I am sure is a very good young talent, but for me it is just stockpiling academy players when we should be cutting the numbers so that the ratio of coaches to players improves. You want your academy players to get lots of one to one coaching, and that doesn't happen if you have 50 kids in each age group!
It's also surprising to see how many people completely forget about Allan who Klopp apparently really rates!
Of all the players Ed002 mentioned in his podcast the only one I think is worth pursuing is Josh Tymon. He plays a position we are short in and is a good prospect. Silva is unrealistic and uninspiring, Marega looks like Obefami Martins Mk II (erratic but quick), Azmoun seems like a flat track bully who really needs to be more consistent, and Lopez as previously explained is not something we are short on.
I will trust in Klopp and Edwards if any of them are signed but i agree with Ed002 in that it is very hard to understand our interest in some of them.
{Ed001's Note - the U18's come to England because they can sign professional contracts at the age of 17, instead of waiting until they are 18 in Spain.}
12 Nov 2016 19:21:18
I do remebemr an Adam some years ago who wrote some 10 para about Joe Allen and another 10 para how effectively lallana and lambert was going to replace Suarez goals.
The difference is, You write so brilliantly and plenty infact it makes people fall for it. No offense there.
Marek Hamsik is the only player we would ever agree up on. So I take your opinion and keep inside my pocket and will encourage liverpool to look for Coric / Lopez.
Great weekend Adam.
Cheers.
12 Nov 2016 19:22:16
Thanks for clarifying Ed. That is what I was alluding to but I couldn't remember the exact details!
{Ed001's Note - welcome, I guessed it was.}
12 Nov 2016 20:08:41
I sense you are just trying to deflect this conversation elsewhere and wind me up now.
I wrote that Joe Allen was under rated and under appreciated. I also argued he was being incorrectly utilised by Rodgers. I think he has proved he is a good player in his last year under Klopp, for Wales and especially so far for Stoke. However I also recall having to calm down the masses after his Euro performance had some (yourself included) people on here calling for him to stay and play instead of Henderson, despite Allen not actually having that great a Euros!
On Lambert, if you go back to what I said I did not ever claim he would be as good as Suarez. I only ever argued that he was not just a target man. He is a very intelligent and creative player, who is also a set piece specialist. I felt inclined to defend him because he started being accused of being 'like Andy Carroll' which is down right offensive. He works harder and offers far more to any team. As a side note, he was never used correctly by Rodgers either and this never got to showcase just how good he actually was.
On Lallana, I honestly cannot remember commenting on him aside to say his technique was brilliant; which I would stand by. From my memory though everyone was pretty pleased with signing someone who had just hit double figures from the midfield and made the team of the season! And he is now vindicating all those who supported signing him by arguably being the most influential player in Klopps high pressing system. Or did you miss how bad we were against Swansea and United without him? Yet another player Rodgers mishandled!
I'm not saying I never get my assessments wrong by the way. I rather infamously suggested that Balotelli could finally settle at Liverpool and hit 20-30 goals a season. That was a regrettable comment to say the least! I willingly give my opinions on players knowing full well I will get it massively wrong sometimes.
However I am not sure how any of this relates to my opinions on our youth academy and transfer policies. Seems like you are clutching and trying to discredit my opinion with false quotes to be honest. I will give you the benefit of the doubt though as you got a lot of stick on here the other day (unfairly in my opinion) so I rather feel as though you are on an unnecessary defensive!
I have agreed with you on a fair few things recently mate, not just Hamsik. I just don't subscribe to the modern craze of blowing up each others backsides' to make friends on the internet. I only really comment to invoke debate and if I agree, I'll just hit the button to say so! I do however think it is ridiculous to suggest that Lopez is better than anyone in our academy based solely on the fact that Barcelona are rumoured to be scouting him!
12 Nov 2016 20:53:02
There are many more names and instances Adam where you have contradicted your own initial opinion. John Flanagan to Jordan Ibe.
Opinions evolve and perceptions changes from week to week. ( Lallana actually looks like Cryuff now after he was supposed to be sold to Spurs to get some cash )
So y always I take the abuse when I state an opinion and others get over it.
Brendan was the best upcoming manager when we bought him and then he became someone who did not know football?
I love our academy doesn't mean I ll ever claim Ibe is 10 times better than Sterling. Kevin Stewart is ready according to me.
12 Nov 2016 21:17:47
But you have just contradicted your entire statement? You initially claim that for me to change my opinion is a contradiction, but then go on to admit that opinions evolve over time.
I don't quite understand why you are trying to turn this into a personal argument. I have never contradicted myself on Flanno or Ibe either by the way. Flanagan was a top young player who sadly has been robbed by injuries. How could I foresee him missing 2 years through injury? Ibe was a top young player who unfortunately just hasn't stepped up as well as expected. In my opinion he is still better than Sterling but I won't get into that as that is a whole different debate. Maybe another time.
Everyone, and I mean literally everyone on here has made incorrect statements, predictions or assessments. I agree that you take a lot of stick. Seemingly more than anyone else. And opinions and views do change. Because football changes so quickly and there are so many variables that it is impossible to be right every time.
It is ridiculous that people on here try an discredit each other or the editors based on historic comments. The only thing that matters is the here and now. I have never once brought up somebodies past posts to try and make them out to be a fool. It is childish. If any of us were so good we could get these things right every time, we would be working as professional scouts, not debating on public forums!
I do think you get a distasteful brunt of the criticism on here mate, but you really shouldn't lower yourself. Calling me out (incorrectly btw) on posts from 2012 or whenever is the reason why we have lost the likes of Macca, and Ed002 at times.
You do actually post some good stuff mate so just ignore the criticism. I saw you ask for a thread to be deleted the other day, but just ignore the negative feedback. It is the internet. People are great at being horrible from behind a keyboard because they don't have to answer for it or look you in the face. Such is life. Keep posting though buddy. And hey, maybe we'll sign Hamsik and we can toast his transfer together ;)
12 Nov 2016 22:19:01
It's not about incorrect statements, It's about opinions and perceptions that keeps changing every now and then. Who on earth thought Trump would walk away?
I am not sure what would the posters do if Klopp actually buys a winger? Would they all start the OUT parade or quickly swallow their ego and take back their tongue.
My opinions over the years has always been on what I saw them on the pitch and nothing more.
Who backed the signing of Wijnaldum on this site? He wasn't good enough for anyone and now LOL he is fine I guess.
ED02 mentioned in his podcast on club looking at Hector Herrera Which means we might be moving one player to make way. lol Emre Can, The next Roy Keane, Patrick Viera and who not,
I have always maintained my opinion on him as indisciplined midfielder.
Maxime Lopez might turn out to be a better player than Coutinho and I believe he is first class.
12 Nov 2016 22:58:51
Honestly mate, you don't need to try and justify yourself to me. I am actually really bad at paying attention to user names. I cannot remember much if anything about what others have posted in the past! Nor to I bother trying.
If people are memorising what you say though mate in a desperate effort to try and discredit you in a few years time, take it as a compliment!
12 Nov 2016 14:28:15
Question for Ed002:
You have mentioned number of times that Coutinho is interested in leaving the club for Barcelona or PSG. Is this a trend you see continuing with South American (and to some extent Spanish) players irrespective of the club's improved performances or can you see them actually wanting to stay if LFC start winning titles on a regular basis in the future?
Chelsea and Man City have done a very good job of keeping their star players out of the clutches of Barca, Real, PSG and Bayern so can you see LFC doing the same?
{Ed002's Note - Players want to be playing at the highest level that they can and want the opportunity to win leagues and play in the Champions League. It really is nothing new. Liverpool are playing in a very competitive league which makes it all the more difficult to sustain success with the likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United competing as well.}
12 Nov 2016 15:19:54
Ed02
Fully agree with you and I find t disappointing if this is the mentality of top players today.
They can stay in a competitive league or o and play for PSG and be able to walk it, or Real and Barcelona and have a couple of tough games per season.
Sad indictment of the modern game.
12 Nov 2016 15:51:42
Agger
Nothing to do with league. Hazard and Aguero has been in with their same team from years now. KDB, Pogba, Sanchez, Ozil and majority of the high profiles names are in the PL. In fact except the MSN and Ronaldo everyone are in the PL.
It's about success and titles. Our past record is poor for elite players to get convinced unless you fill their pocket with high wages.
Look at Spurs for example. Struggling due lack of quality in the side.
12 Nov 2016 18:31:54
More like wages.
12 Nov 2016 22:59:46
When do man united ever compete anymore? lol.
12 Nov 2016 11:32:16
If you want to listen to the latest Liverpool FC transfer rumours then Ed002 has created their first podcast known as:
Sharkopod #1
12 Nov 2016 11:58:21
Think someone needs ti contact Pepe Reina about taking Sparky back! Ed002 you have no chill ;)
Great update though. Sounds like Azmoun is strangely very likely from what you've said!
12 Nov 2016 12:07:15
this is what it must be like when you first make contact with aliens. sitting there listening to this strange signal. it's absolutely spellbinding . and Max my dog went mental when he heard Sparky chip in.
12 Nov 2016 12:12:03
Brilliant podcast ED02. Not looking too much into the possible incomings in the summer. But it looks like both Firmino and Coutinho is off in the summer.
12 Nov 2016 12:43:24
Ed002 has a very deep voice for a lady!
Love the podcast. Please keep them coming and let us know if there is any way we can help support it!
Red Sandman.
12 Nov 2016 13:42:56
He said he was a maybe MK, haven't seen him play myself, no idea what to make of it. Thanks for the update ed!
12 Nov 2016 13:46:56
Firmino and Coutinho off in the summer? Based on what?
Shameless rubbish spouting on here!
12 Nov 2016 14:17:23
How did u deduce that both Firmino and Couts are off Harry? Probably Coutinho is gone in the summer but I do not see Firmino going anywhere as long as we get UCL football.
12 Nov 2016 14:43:34
If PSG comes up with an offer and the player gets tempted. The club wouldn't stand in his way. How is that any kind of rubbish? They have been monitoring him from some time I guess.
12 Nov 2016 14:48:18
Wondered what was going on then with the firmino going, then I saw it was a post from harry :)
12 Nov 2016 15:25:06
Thanks for the Sharkpod.
Weird thing is that's exactly how I thought ed002 would sound 😎.
12 Nov 2016 16:06:33
But where's the American accent? Hardly detectable.
{Ed002's Note - I left 35 years ago and am from the West Coast where there is no real accent.}
12 Nov 2016 16:23:47
I honestly thought she was a lady. Very old in fact older than ED025 😂😂.
12 Nov 2016 18:30:28
I always wondered where barry from Eastenders went to.
Whens the podcast with harry and waro ed2?
Thanks for the info
Do u get to italy much?
{Ed002's Note - I dont get to Italy on a regular basis - once or twice a year in recent times.}
12 Nov 2016 10:46:47
Dont know about you lot but I hate international breaks, the fortnight seems to drag like hell.
12 Nov 2016 13:41:54
The better Liverpool get, the less I care about international footie. It doesn't help matters lol.
12 Nov 2016 14:48:45
Agreed tjred. I just want to see us smash another team. We have to wait another week for that lol.
12 Nov 2016 08:02:08
Hi people,
Just a quick one my good friends.
Why are Liverpool fans on this site already selling off Coutinho?
Its pathetic to be quite frank!
12 Nov 2016 09:01:43
Cos he brqzillian and linked with barca! Wouldnseem natural he would go to Barcelona or real next. Maybe as we re-establiah ourselves as a dominant club then it will be the next generation of stars we develop that will want to stay.
12 Nov 2016 09:04:17
Nobody is selling him off so soon, they are just aware that not many players turn down the likes of Barcelona.
12 Nov 2016 09:44:13
Coz He is going!
12 Nov 2016 10:39:13
Says who harryHarry? Not gone yet. It's pure speculation.