Use our rumours form to send us liverpool transfer rumours.
12 Jul 2015 22:54:07
No one has mentioned what's going to happen to the one weeks timeshare in Jamaica , because i'm sure no other club will let a player Halfway through the season go on a jolly maybe that will be on ebay next
Teapot
12 Jul 2015 22:51:20
Not to sound too much like Kevin Keegan but I'd love it, just love it if for once Brendan was allowed to come out and say exactly what he thinks about Sterling and his tool of an agent and the way they have behaved - none of this "we wish him well/hope he continues to develop/might see him return one day." Tell it like it is - he's a greedy money chasing idiot who will end up sat on the bench and squandering what little talent he has due to listening to absolute idiots around him.
YNWA.
13 Jul 2015 00:06:39
Why would he sit on the bench? He's good enough to be a regular starter for City.
13 Jul 2015 00:20:18
There is a risk though with such a statement as it can hit you back in the face when a year from now there are photos of Sterling celebrating with his new friends a big trophy at the end of the season after he scored 7-8 goals and gave the same number of assists throughout the campaign and LFC did not win anything.
13 Jul 2015 01:17:52
Don't take it so personally man!
13 Jul 2015 03:10:54
BR should not be allowed to say anything in the media until thoroughly coached. As for Sterling and his agent, there's nothing more to be said because frankly, the boy has made his bed hence, should lie in it.
12 Jul 2015 22:12:16
Now sell Borini for £5-£7m, give QPR their £9m and put 20m on Cheryshev or around 13-15m on Ntep.
And I would be happy if we did the loan swap for Balotelli and Mario Gomez.
13 Jul 2015 02:19:59
cheryshev and ntep are not good enough, why do you have such low standards. I mean if we spent anything close to £20mill on cheryshev we are even bigger fools than we look right now. Let's not make the same mistakes as last season, as I would be called for people's head from the start of the season. We should just stick with what we have in ibe and markovic. If one was to go out on loan then look for higher standard players rather than risks. BR should not gamble and FSG should be clever enough by now to not find those types of underwhelming transfers. Get benteke and be done with it.
I would have loved Gomez 2 seasons ago as would have most people, but he is just too injury prone to cover glass like Sturridge.
13 Jul 2015 03:13:53
We already have replacements for him in Ibe, Marko, Origi, Milner and Lallana so why do we need to buy anyone to replace Sterling?
13 Jul 2015 07:48:11
We also have Ojo that hasn't yet been mentioned on here but he has been chosen on the tour - Now watch this kid play
12 Jul 2015 21:47:35
Rumours of Jordan Ibe going out on loan again are very disappointing.
The lad is better than Pounds Sterling in both ability and attitude and deserves a regular squad place.
Ibe, Rositter, Llori, Can and Markovic all deserve more playing time in their best positions.
Competition for places in the starting XI will be tough next season but with the Europa League on top of the usual it shouldn't be too difficult to give everyone a decent run-out, should it Brendan?
12 Jul 2015 23:21:31
Thing is Ibe has enough pressure and now with the cancer removed everyone is expecting him to be the replacement. It could be clever to take him out of limelight for a half or full season while getting game time.
12 Jul 2015 23:24:51
I think Ibe has a brilliant attitude and I'm sure he will come good and be a cracking player given time, but to be brutally honest, if we want a CL place next season we have to be realistic about his capabilities at his point.
E.g. I can't remember him scoring a single goal in his 12 league appearances after he came back, and I think he only got about one shot on target per game, so for me he isn't quite at the level yet to be a first team starter (although in fairness most of the team were playing pretty much garbage at that time, so no-one got many goals anyway).
To have any chance of top four we need our wide forwards to be getting 10-15 goals per season and at least 10 assists, and to get to the level where he can deliver that level of end product, I think he could probably do with one more season on loan at a PL club- where he will start nearly every game and get a lot of valuable experience.
I would like to see him get a full PL season under his belt, rather than make him a first team starter at a time in his development when he is not quite ready to deliver the level of end product we need.
I think he will become our starting winger for the next few years and be a better player than Sterling (sorry City fans), but not this season- not quite.
We could throw him in as we did with Sterling and he might come good and turn into a monster of a player, but ideally I'd like to see him develop away from the spotlight and the fans criticism for another season, and then unleash him as a first team starter.
13 Jul 2015 03:20:50
Ibe has waited long enuff for his chance and deserves it just like Sterling deserved his. Why should he wait any longer? because of pressure? I don't think so. Many of us complain that our youth don't get enuff chances and when an opp arrives for one of them, we suggest they aren't ready because of reasons X or Y. If Ibe doesn't get his chance now, when will he ever get it, exactly or should he be placed on another pointless loan move so Cherishev can come take his place like Marko was bought to do until we found out that he is not in Ibe's class?
13 Jul 2015 04:44:25
He was played as wing back for most of those games and usually for 20 mins or so. He's shown enough already that he's worthy to be in the first team squad.
13 Jul 2015 06:51:19
Maybe thesis the Ed's "somebody you would t expect might be leaving".
12 Jul 2015 21:36:52
Whatever you think of Sterling, getting £49m ( less the 20% ) and effectively James Milner ( market value £20m ) for him has to be one of our best ever transfer deals.
We are definitely improving in the market this summer .
12 Jul 2015 21:54:31
I am Happs
12 Jul 2015 22:12:45
City can afford it. Question is,, will Liverpool now go out and buy a world class player or waste the money again like last summer.
Are we going to even be ''interested' in the likes of Reus, Lacazette ect ? Or are we shopping in Southampton again Brendan?
12 Jul 2015 23:07:48
I don't see why don't at least try for a big big player. Who knows? They might be interested!
13 Jul 2015 02:23:29
29mill and £25mill+ For firmino and benteke respectively does not show improvement in the transfers. I agree it shows intent and some strength financially, but by no means did we pull off good deals other than Milner and Clyne. It just the way it is with English clubs and English players, especially Liverpool nowadays.
12 Jul 2015 21:28:22
It is all very well selling Sterling, but I for one would never sell a player to a top four team. You are just strengthening your rivals. He should have been sold to a team outside the top four or to a European team. If Liverpool's philosophy is to develop players and sell them on then the future looks bleak.
12 Jul 2015 21:53:53
Was selling Torres to Chelsea making them stronger? You can never tell how a players career pans out. For all we know Sterling's might never get off the ground.
12 Jul 2015 22:02:25
Or merely populating their already expensive bench
12 Jul 2015 22:02:31
Thing is mate I just can't see him being an improvement on what they already have. We already have players ready to step into his role, and have strengthened significantly in this window. The money from his sale will make back some of the money we've spent and we'll continue to strengthen as well. In this case I'd say we can make an exception. The kid has potential, but I'm not so sure he'll reach that at city
12 Jul 2015 22:04:49
No club baring city would even pay close to 40 million for Sterling.
12 Jul 2015 22:34:39
Disagree! City are not in our weight class so don't know what selling to them will change. We got the dough and the boy gets his wish. Win - win for everyone.
12 Jul 2015 22:47:10
It's better business for us than city so by selling him we are strengthening ourselves while weakening city's transfer budget.
In an ideal world anyway.
12 Jul 2015 22:52:56
You can't sell to a team outside the top 4 or to a European team if they don't want him. We got rid of him that's the best outcome for us and I couldn't care less what happens to him in the future
13 Jul 2015 03:22:18
Spot on, Red!
13 Jul 2015 04:50:30
Theone, please tell me what the bids were from the teams outside the top 4 and other euro teams?? Don't think there was any? Selling a world class player to a rival is an issue (RVP to man utd). Selling an overpriced brat with a stinking but decent potential is nit so much an issue.
12 Jul 2015 21:06:01
Now Sterlings on his way, I'm sure Benteke will be the focus and announced this week, imo good business I'm sure he will score plenty in our shirt.
12 Jul 2015 21:07:04
Hi eds
********************************
{Ed007's Note - If you want to talk about odds and gambling we have a betting page here.
12 Jul 2015 20:59:43
Surely he'll fail a medical with those new teeth ?? Offside with them things . A good yard off . No use
12 Jul 2015 20:41:48
Just to go against the grain a little.
Good look Raheem, I hope you do well in your career.
12 Jul 2015 21:09:14
Good riddance couldn't care less how the rest of his career unfolds
12 Jul 2015 21:42:54
Happy he made LFC about 37 million pounds.
Everything else is irrelevant. I hope City pick him every game because compared to Silva, Aguero etc he is poor.
12 Jul 2015 22:00:57
Is that new look his teeth?
12 Jul 2015 22:35:17
Good luck to him
12 Jul 2015 22:48:31
Haha didn't even realise that typo.
Hangs head in shame :( lol
13 Jul 2015 09:42:35
I don't think Liverpool fans have ever been so excited to watch a good player leave the club
12 Jul 2015 20:33:14
Hi eds
Is the fee for Sterling the highest for an English player?
{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry.}
12 Jul 2015 20:41:56
Yes. Second highest transfer fee ever for a British player (after Bale).
12 Jul 2015 20:49:15
Fir an English player yes. I suspect levy might coerce Manchester United into shelling out more for Kane
12 Jul 2015 21:00:30
Think it is . As bale is Welsh
12 Jul 2015 20:21:08
City to Liverpool. Experienced England international with title winning pedigree. Five goals in 32 matches last season. No transfer fee.
Liverpool to City. Inexperienced and not yet proven player with questionable temperament. Seven goals in 35 matches last season. £49 million.
I know it will depend a lot on how Sterling's career develops but I'm exceedingly comfortable with Sterling leaving for £49m.
13 Jul 2015 04:53:22
Not to mention sterling was played as a forward for half the season compared to Milner who was shoved out wide.
12 Jul 2015 20:18:12
Good luck Raheem, I suspect you will need it.
12 Jul 2015 20:18:10
Stevie G gone. Sterling gone. Who will be the next star of the team ? Every team has one. I'm hoping coutinho grabs it by the cojones and runs with it.
12 Jul 2015 20:36:21
Sturridge, Coutinho or Firmino
12 Jul 2015 20:50:00
I have a feeling it will be Henderson
12 Jul 2015 21:05:00
TOBIWAN you used the word team twice in your question. Hopefully we'll be a team and not a group of individuals.
12 Jul 2015 21:30:58
100% certain it will be Firmino.
12 Jul 2015 21:38:49
Jordan Ibe
12 Jul 2015 21:45:37
Henderson could be the backbone for a few years. Coutinho is shining lately but wouldn't be surprised if he leaves within couple of years unless we start grabbing trophies
12 Jul 2015 20:11:04
I am a little disappointe we are losing Sterling i think in a few years he could be a great player, That being aid he has acted a total tit and the sooner he is gone the better no 1 player is bigger than the club,I would be interested to see now what we do with the funds and i'm hopeful we can get Rues (doubtful) and Benteke.Good job Eds btw from a new member
{Ed001's Note - welcome to the madhouse.}
12 Jul 2015 20:19:33
I would love to know from Ed01, what actually went so wrong with the kid and the club. I am sure it's much worse than just a manager fall off which we have seen quite many in the past.
{Ed001's Note - just in with the wrong crowd. Bit like the problems with Gazza were that he had hangers on who just wanted him to buy their drinks. Sterling is surrounded by people who just want to make money from him or get their buzz on with him. They don't give a toss about him, they are just using him and he is too thick to see it.}
12 Jul 2015 20:36:00
Well done Mukker. I totally agree with your assessment in that we are losing a good player. I'd go further in saying that we are losing our best player. Furthermore, we are losing a player who will very soon become a world class player. We may not like the way he has behaved but that does not detract from the fact that this lad is 20 odd years old. He has not reached anywhere nr his peak. How good were Ronaldo, Messi n Bale at this age? I think we need to put our silly pride to one side and acknowledge that City are getting one hell of a player. They may be paying for what they will be getting rather than what they are getting, but they will not be regretful of that. I now live nr Manchester n have many City mates, not one of them really rate him! But I have reassured them that he is class! ! Especially in a good team. Sometimes players only really get acknowledged as top class when they leave Liverpool. This lad will be one of them!!
12 Jul 2015 20:52:17
I'd consider Henderson Sakho Lucas(When fit) Sturridge( When fit) Coutinho and probably Firmino all better players than Sterling atm. Oh and Can and Ibe have the potential to overtake him.
12 Jul 2015 20:46:29
Sir.
Give me s beak, city are getting a potential at 50 mill, they are blowing their money on one to two players when in. Reality they need more than 6 first trainers.
Man city in all honest has no need of Sterling and it's the other way round as none would buy the kid.
Navas is a bloody good player. simple as that
12 Jul 2015 21:02:30
I'm sure Ronaldo and Messi had a much better take on completion than 44% at 20. Would also say both most likely scored and assisted more at that age too. Sterling will never be in the same class as Ronnie or Messi. Think more along the lines of Ashley Young, Aaron Lennon a one trick pony who can't cross and has a rubbish shot also.
12 Jul 2015 21:32:37
Lallana is better than Sterling too
12 Jul 2015 21:45:58
Opinions will always be varied, but would you share that opinion if Sterling was staying? I mean, do you really believe in your comments? Sakho better than Sterling? A player that by your opinion is only 6th or 7th best in a team that finished 6th, is wanted by a team finishing 2nd for 50m! Whilst they are not interested in buying any of those BETTER 6 players for considerably less?! I'm a Liverpool fan of many years, blinkered by my love. but I would suggest that your blinkers are greater than mine!! Lucas would be the 1st player on my team sheet, but to suggest he is better than Sterling shows an interesting insight into your judgement.
12 Jul 2015 20:44:18
Common ed01. Don't you think the kid is grown up to smell the reality happening around him?
He has a family and kids, drives a Ferrari and earns a pay week in week out. The kid must be either too clever to use himself to make money or an absolute dumb ( which I don't think so ).
He might make an year salary at city if he performs poor and then he would be shipped out just like that.
Don't you think he wouldn't make any noise at city? I think so.
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea what you are trying to say.}
12 Jul 2015 20:52:05
Ed1 thanks for the insight mate. Good deal for LFC then?
{Ed001's Note - it does seem that way, unless something changes with the way he acts we are best of rid.}
12 Jul 2015 20:07:16
Sterling finally going, good riddance. 50 mill, what are city smoking?
And no I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, I been saying all season he's poor, overrated and overplayed. The Man U game in particular when he should of had a hattrick.
Anyway, won't be missed.
YNWA
12 Jul 2015 20:57:09
@ Mag-ic786
At least next season he'll be rich, underplayed and still slightly overrated.
Brendan will enjoy his conversation with Raheem from the bench at the Etihad next season. Maybe they could get walkie-talkies to hear each other over the chorus of boos from the away stand.
God knows what will happen when they come to Anfield.
12 Jul 2015 20:05:56
fingers crossed he passes medical with all that crack in him!
12 Jul 2015 20:05:34
Looking at he site on my ipad and I'm seeing an ad offering 25 percent off at "Sterling Furniture".
12 Jul 2015 20:02:47
Reckon we'll go back for Kovacic Ed01, would it depend on what the club have planned for Lucas ?
Cheers,
N
{Ed001's Note - go back? We have never pulled out of the deal, it is still on the table. I feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall sometimes. It is Inter holding off not us.}
12 Jul 2015 20:41:53
They're holding back to look for alternative players to sell
12 Jul 2015 20:54:06
Hope we can work something out would be a terrific signing IMO.
12 Jul 2015 20:46:04
Sorry were doing your head in ed.
We're just going off some different info. Ed002 said that wr had the offer on the table but inter were not happy with the terms avaliable and Liverpool did not want to pay a premium on the player, so with that info us fans are hoping that now the club has some cash on the hip they might give inter the terms they want.
But if it'd thr other way ed and inter are happy with what we offered but just dint want to sell then we're knackered.
{Ed001's Note - Inter were not happy, but that doesn't mean the offer was removed off the table, it just meant Inter were looking elsewhere first before accepting it.}
12 Jul 2015 21:25:54
Yes and no there ed. Inter are holding back but only because of two reasons, 1 they would like a different party structure for the transfer and 2 they don't want to sell matteo, though the player himself is pretty sure he'll be leaving
12 Jul 2015 19:49:33
I am not saying these figure's are anyway accurate Ed's so i'll say sorry before hand.
But, open for debate with you and fellow supporters and try to be as objective as is possible.
Who do you think has got the better deal?
US. Firminho for a reported £29 mill.
OR
City. Sterling for a reported £49 mill.
Everyone's thoughts welcome.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
12 Jul 2015 20:20:41
Liverpool will challenge for the title with Firmino + Benteke + Kovacic without a doubt.
12 Jul 2015 20:25:07
VR I guess LFC fans would surely say FIRMINO but I hope that young STERLING goes on and truly realizes his potential.
For me both CITY and LFC got good young players with great potential and I just hope that they are both success stories next season and seasons to come.
Forget the price tags bud.
12 Jul 2015 20:28:58
It remains to be seen. Remember that even after one season it looked as if united got a better deal for phil jones than we did for henderson. For banters sake on the face of it we are getting a better deal but again, we'll see
12 Jul 2015 21:09:21
Hold your horses European glory. Way to feed in to the steriotype of 'next season is our season'. We will not challenge for the title, let's be honest for once yeah.
12 Jul 2015 19:42:08
Ed001,
How do you think we would do next season if our business ended with Benteke and Kovacik. I like the new coaching set up and think we got some great players in our starting 11 and competing for places. I would be extremely disappointed if we didn't get at least top four with the players we have.
{Ed001's Note - we should be top 4.}
12 Jul 2015 20:21:29
We should get a shot at the title.
Ed01, who in all honesty is falling out from top4?
City?
{Ed001's Note - City or United would have to be the target. United need major improvement and City are just abysmal at transfers, they are just lucky to have obscene amounts of money to throw away.}
12 Jul 2015 20:57:12
I think 49 million for an unproven 20 year old pre madonna shows that ed 1 is always right about city and transfers lol
12 Jul 2015 21:40:10
Your having a giraffe ed001. Man utd will definitely be top 4. I reckon 2nd or 3rd, think Chelsea top arsenal 2nd or 3rd and city 4th. Liverpool will be struggling to make top 6! Liverpool have only bought 1 player that has improved them. Clyne is slightly better than Johnson, Milner is no better than Gerrard, Firminio is no better than Sterling. you still need a world class GK, CB and Striker to push for top 4
{Ed001's Note - why? They have spent well but why will they defo be top 4? Arsenal are a settled side, which is a big advantage, Chelsea are a big way ahead with a settled side. So it is only really City and United we can aim for and United were woeful last season, even adding the new players they will need to play better to be certain of a top 4 place.}
13 Jul 2015 08:44:53
Look at the points difference between united and Liverpool last season. What have Liverpool done to bridge such a big gap? United have significantly strengthened their midfield, bastian and now Morgan, Liverpool can't blame injuries as united had a worse injury record. United did apart from 3 or 4 games play poorly last season but still finished fourth, i don't see how they can play any worse and have a stronger squad so why would they finish lower than 4th? Arsenal have strengthened by signing cech but still need a strong cm/ dm, a world class striker and possibly a cb. They tend to be mentally weak and lack leaders also. I don't think they are as settled as you think with several players like wilshere, the ox and Walcott unhappy with their lack of game time. I think city are probably the most likely to drop out of the top 4 but i don't see who is good enough to replace them. Spurs have a chance if Kane has another good season and some of their signings from last year step up a level
12 Jul 2015 19:44:32
With agent's fee's, wages taxes ect. RS transfer will top £100 mill all told over the life of his contract.
WOW. just wow.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
12 Jul 2015 19:55:58
about £85 million too much :-)
12 Jul 2015 19:56:50
Thw dark side of football really. Money has overpowered the game
12 Jul 2015 20:01:12
He and his agent may be odious twerps but they're now odious rich twerps.
12 Jul 2015 20:01:18
Scary stuff just in general the amount of £ involved in football
12 Jul 2015 20:04:52
Good riddance I'm afraid. The club has shown itself to be bigger than the individual player, quite rightly as far as I'm concerned. If he doesn't want to play for the shirt then get rid. There are plenty who do. Can't help wondering who Citeh think they have bought - Maybe they think he's John Barnes' son!!
At least we can enjoy the thought of the new players cutting their teeth without wondering about the petulant child and his repellant agent.
12 Jul 2015 19:23:06
I wonder how many people's opinions would have been different if sterling & his agent wern't such tools??
12 Jul 2015 19:40:02
I've personally had the same opinion on Sterling for the last 2 years and got abused for what's being said now. Funny really.
12 Jul 2015 19:48:05
None.
12 Jul 2015 19:48:42
I think your question is "if things were different would things be different?"
Probberly.
12 Jul 2015 19:57:25
Well obviously if sterling had said absolutely nothing throughout the season had gotten on with the job played well for the team and then city came in and offered 50 mill this summer and we accepted? If that's what you're asking I would probably be disappointed he's leaving but for that money you wouldn't say no every. I'd think he's making a mistake in regards to his career but would wish him well.
So basically the only difference is now I'm glad to be seeing the back of him. if he'd been a model pro throughout all this I'd be disappointed to see the back of him
12 Jul 2015 19:57:51
I seen the devil in him on that stupid tv program when we was training in fenway park and he backchatted? I'd of backhanded the lil runt there and then put a stop to all this,
12 Jul 2015 20:17:16
Sorry for mis-wording my post, but yeah basically asking if sterling got on with his job kept his mouth shut & continued to progress at rate he had been for last 18 months or so & city swooped in for 50m (40m after qpr cut) for sterling would people b happy with the deal or wanted us to keep him? All hyperthetical like because it didn't work out that way & we did what is right by the club in selling but just hope we not talking bout city selling to real Madrid in couple years time for 100.
12 Jul 2015 20:20:08
Where have you been? People have been saying for ages that his end product is atrocious, his shooting is weak, his attitude is poor and that Ibe will be the better player.
Stop trying to bait people. I haven't seen anybody saying anything about his abilitytthat they weren't already saying. Fact is, he hasn't really improved at all since stepping up to senior football because he thinks he's made it. Shame because he could've been a good attacking midfielder if he wasn't so desperate to hold onto the ball all the time.
He's a good player, but he needs to change his attitude if he ever wants to be world class. I've not seen anyone say he's a bad player; just that he's over rated and over priced. Are you really going to argue that?!
12 Jul 2015 20:26:51
Bobatron, master of football knowledge.
12 Jul 2015 20:30:31
I thought and still think he's going to be top class, potentially world class. But after all that's gone on I also think he's a tool so needs to be moved on
12 Jul 2015 21:12:41
Exactly davey
12 Jul 2015 19:21:17
While they've got the chequebook out will Citeh take Balotelli back for £15m ???
12 Jul 2015 20:00:04
To be honest I'd just try and hide him in sterling's suitcase and hope by the time they figure out he's in their they'd just take him. but in all seriousness I think our best bet is Turkey with balotelli I feel that's about where his career is at now
12 Jul 2015 20:06:16
15p should do it on past performances.
12 Jul 2015 19:20:49
I hope Liverpool can do better than Medel and Krychowiak.
12 Jul 2015 19:48:30
There is no such player called Krychowiak
12 Jul 2015 23:37:31
Krychowiak plays for Sevilla and he would be a quality signing imo
12 Jul 2015 19:17:58
Eds, if you're available.
I'm aware that Benteke is our no.1 striking target as things stand, do you expect us to match his release clause with the Sterling money?
Or would you expect us to walk away if Villa hold out for the full £32.5m?
Would we possibly turn our attentions to Lacazette and realistically do you think he'd want to come as we are no doubt a more attractive proposition than Lyon due to cash, reputation and PL football, but he's been linked with the likes of Arsenal who could offer CL football. I completely understand if you think this is just fantasy because I guess it is! But if the club don't make further progress in reaching an agreement on Benteke soon then surely they'll explore alternative options as we evidently need a striker?
{Ed001's Note - I really wouldn't even hold out any hope of Lacazette as Lyon are a nightmare to deal with. I fully expect the signing of Benteke to be completed.}
12 Jul 2015 19:30:29
Oh right thanks for the reply anyway, reckon we'll give in to the release clause Ed1, or Villa will let him go for closer to our valuation?
Also sorry to bombard you with questions but would you expect that to signal the end of our summer dealings from a buying point of view? Thanks again
{Ed001's Note - I expect the main discussion to be about how the payment is done, rather than how much. We would still like to add Kovacic.}
12 Jul 2015 19:33:30
So Man Utd interest not serious ed?
{Ed001's Note - for who?}
12 Jul 2015 19:47:13
O G, I suspect you are refering to Benteke? Man U have been scouting Benteke, but AV haven´t been contacted by Man U. I would think that they are interested in getting Benteke.
12 Jul 2015 19:50:52
Big ben ed as ed2 said they are interested in him
{Ed001's Note - I have already answered this a few times. Yes they are interested but they have not bid for him.}
12 Jul 2015 20:01:34
We have a deal in place and it's all about the structure of payments and I expect Liverpool to complete the deal
12 Jul 2015 20:01:42
Thanks Ed1
12 Jul 2015 19:13:20
It's interesting to see the back and forth between the optimists and pessimists on here. One thing to keep in mind though: pessimists generally have a more accurate view of reality according to psychologists and psychiatrists.
It doesn't mean that pessimists can't go to far in the negative direction, but what it does mean is that optimists are more self-deluded. Make of that what you will.
On the topic of the day, I can't quite believe anybody would pay 49 million for Aaron Lennon version 2.0.
12 Jul 2015 19:09:32
Just been confirmed that Sterling's name was in all 3 of them envelopes!
12 Jul 2015 19:08:13
The reality is we will be losing a very good player who has the potential to be an excellent player, but given the events of the last few months there was no option but to sell and protect the squad from the poison that has been 'the sterling saga'. The money is more than alright. I doubt there will be many football fans across the country that feel city have got a bargain. If the likes of ibe, markovic, Lallana and firmino step up then we will be fine. After all sterling is yet to have a full consistent season with us.
I am not happy at losing a talented player but I am happy with losing what comes with it and in my opinion the baggage was potentially very harmful to the club.
Sign a top class striker, address defensive deficiencies with improved coaching and I will be pretty happy with the summer's business.
Cheers
12 Jul 2015 19:49:31
Top post, might sentiments exactly. I think every man & his dog knew sterling had to leave after all recent developments but I do believe he a v.good player & if he can sort out his private life will go onto be a superstar. Lfc got a v.good price & by the looks of it a very immature player off the books, only time will tell if it proves to be a good deal or another player who used lfc as a spring board to higher things.
12 Jul 2015 20:01:05
talented? who missed more open goals this season than you can shake a fist at! deluded comes to mind ( not sour grapes) can't wait for him to end up at qpr
12 Jul 2015 19:07:46
A question for Ed001.
Now that the whole Sterling saga appears to have finally come to an end, there are no doubt going to be a number of additional players linked to the club.
With the info/insight you have, who do you think 'will' be added to the squad before the close of the window?
{Ed001's Note - Benteke is the one one looking likely right now, we still need to offload more players.}
12 Jul 2015 19:20:42
Have you heard anything about the structure of the deal, ed? Do you think we would be able to afford Kovacic now?
Benteke and Kovacic would be enough if you ask me, and perhaps a youth left back in case Jose is finally put out of his misery.
{Ed001's Note - no mate and the issue wasn't affording Kovacic, it was that Inter preferred to sell other players.}
12 Jul 2015 19:36:08
Appreciate the reply Ed
{Ed001's Note - you are very welcome.}
12 Jul 2015 20:05:08
If kovacic was identified as a need and we all but got the deal done, of not for inter not wanting to see him
Then surely that is still a position we deem needy. What is the plan if kovacic cannot he sorted?
Is there another name were after or use what we have?
12 Jul 2015 19:01:10
I think every bad buy er have made has just been slapped into the abyss.
How have they got 49mil for Sterling!
12 Jul 2015 18:59:31
If I was Brendan Rogers. I'd be like.
"Sterling has shown tremendous character and tenacity throughout his time at Liverpool.
In my opinion we (Liverpool football club) have been brilliant tactically in dealing with the situation wee' Sterling has found himself in being continuely linked with Manchester City, who in my opinion are a top top club, up there with the 'biggest teams' in world football.
Sterling has shown great character.
Technically we have been fantastic, getting nearly £50 million for an ungrateful little sod who runs like Velma, can't really shoot, tires easily often leading to mid season holidays, turns down unbelievable contract offers, throws his toys out the pram, does interviews without permission, publicity disses the man who gave him regular first team football at such a young age and smokes hippy crack, is something the club should be very proud of. It's a great achievement."
Ha.
12 Jul 2015 18:53:06
Alexis Sanchez - £32m
Hazard - £32m
Ozil - £42.5m
Fabregas - £30m
Diego Costa - £32m
Aguero - £38m
Sterling - £49m
Fantastic business, potential isn't always achieved
12 Jul 2015 19:03:36
None of the above are English. That's why. It's insane the price English players are selling for. £50m for Kane? Ridiculous
12 Jul 2015 19:11:23
How much would they go for now though.
12 Jul 2015 18:52:21
All this talk of benteke bids is rubbish despite what Brenda wants. someone else is driving Liverpool at the minute
The only negatives are Skrtel signing a new deal and no news on a new GK and center half
12 Jul 2015 19:12:28
Weve got a gk in Bogdan. Paez,skrtel,gomez,jones,toure,lovren,sakho,wisdom yet we need another cb
12 Jul 2015 19:27:08
Read that back to yourself
A championship GK to challenge a championship GK
How many of the center half list you name are of a standard to take us into the top 4
How many would get into the top six sides
Sakho.
12 Jul 2015 19:55:20
Absolutely right Clee. Too much "we've got a squillion centre backs" going on.
I haven't seen Llori much and have never seen Wisdom in the middle. So I'm willing to be convinced that one of those is the answer and a partner for Sakho. Otherwise we need to buy (and to sell some too).
I've got time for Lovren but he and Sakho seem too left footed for me to be comfortable with them as a pair.
12 Jul 2015 20:11:29
Disagree I think with decent defensive coaching we have some good players for the back 4, or whatever formation we play. Just don't think Brendan can organise the defence. Some confidence should improve the keeper also, rather than just a shambolic mess
12 Jul 2015 18:48:27
I reckon both owners will believe they 'won' that negotiation, the sheiks for not paying £50 million and the Americans for getting £49 million for sterling!
12 Jul 2015 18:45:45
£44 mill plus £5 mill in add on's,yet again the club have backed down,look at villa £32.5 for benteke and they will not let him go for anything less,as I said before if the club make a statement that it is £50 mill or he stays then bleedin well stick to it.
12 Jul 2015 19:02:21
Backed down? We managed to convince City to pay £49 million for a £25 million pound player.
Same player who won't sign a new contract.
Same player who wanted a winter holiday
Same player smoking Hippy crack and shisha.
Same player pulling a sickie and refusing to go on pre season tour.
Benteke has been professional.
12 Jul 2015 19:05:17
Don't be an arse Alan50. This was great business. As was just posted
Alexis Sanchez - £32m
Hazard - £32m
Ozil - £42.5m
Fabregas - £30m
Diego Costa - £32m
Aguero - £38m
Get off the owners backs
12 Jul 2015 19:07:28
It's 49 million quid for someone who didn't want to play at lfc. Brilliant business imo
12 Jul 2015 19:14:00
Oh come on, getting near that for a petulant 20 yr old with record of bad off the field antics and questionable statistics is pretty good negotiation!
12 Jul 2015 19:14:17
You messin? I will take £44m plus add ons for sterling.
Great bit of business. Let's not waste it.
12 Jul 2015 19:16:08
He is not worth even half that amount. It is very good deal for LFC, particularly since we know now what sort of trouble he brings.
12 Jul 2015 19:21:10
£49m is more than we could have hoped for. And I'm pretty sure we knew that no one would have offered more than £40m for him except City. Great outgoing deal for us for once.
12 Jul 2015 22:44:23
Alan how much would you have wanted us to get from cited for RS since you're such a brilliant negotiator?
12 Jul 2015 18:34:34
Thank you Manchester City. Us fans are grateful
12 Jul 2015 18:26:38
49 million for sterling, ironic really that's about the same number of times the Eds will have to tell people to use the search function!, let's hope we spend it wisely.
12 Jul 2015 18:48:56
It's already spent on our 6 signing we have to shift a few others out before we bid for anyone else
12 Jul 2015 18:25:57
What is the point in a player having a contract seems pointless these days no loyalty in the game il take the £49m but must be spent wisely we've lost a talent no less but we don't need a brat!!!
12 Jul 2015 19:25:46
People got mad when he refused to sign a new contract. People got mad when Owen and Mcmanaman didn't sign new contracts, it works both ways.
12 Jul 2015 19:57:40
How does the same thing happening in 3 situations show that anything works both ways?
12 Jul 2015 18:20:58
Can anyone actually believe it 49 million pounds for sterling? Footballs gone mad.
On the other hand he stats ain't too dissimilar to silva and he is world class apparently .
Que benteke bid now then.
12 Jul 2015 18:54:24
Stats mean nothing
Rooneys stats for England are good but what you don't see is he never turns up in actual tournaments
12 Jul 2015 19:35:05
They tell part of the story, anyway I was just saying :))
12 Jul 2015 19:58:52
Stats mean nothing? Is that what yer missus told you before she ran off with Dion Dublin?
12 Jul 2015 20:30:21
Stats don't paint a true picture of a player fact.
A player could pass the ball sideways all game and come out with the top pass percentage. Has he created any goals probably not.
Like I said perfect example Rooney for England. He's well up in the charts for topeEngland scorers but what it doesn't show you is they are all against crap teams in qualifying games.
12 Jul 2015 17:04:45
Eds, do you no if the club are looking to replace Sterling or is it thought we have enough cover? Surely we have enough options with Ibe Markovic Lallana Firmino etc?
{Ed001's Note - we already have replaced him.}
12 Jul 2015 19:08:48
Ibe, Ojo, Markovic, Firmino, Wilson .
12 Jul 2015 19:15:15
With whom Ed001? Firmino?
{Ed001's Note - and Milner and Origi.}
12 Jul 2015 18:15:11
So £49 Mill agreed for Sterling which includes certain add on's,would have stuck out for a min of £50 with no add on's included which the club stated in the first place,a min of £50mill unless he stays
12 Jul 2015 18:26:00
What if City decided not to agree to that, and then he would leave in january for nothing. Considering that we sold a hippy crack smoking brat for £49 mill, then we should be quite satisfied. I know he has the potential to be great, but with his poor attitude I doubt he will ever get close to being a £49 mill player.
12 Jul 2015 18:27:22
Im just happy that the saga is nearly over and we've got nearly £50 mill for him. let's hope the club spend the money wisely
12 Jul 2015 18:29:17
Well I'm chuffed to bits that we received that offer considering his antics over the past couple of months.
He is someone I am glad to have gotten rid of and let another team deal with his lack of professionalism.
12 Jul 2015 18:29:40
He is worth 30 million GBP at the most even with the so often mentioned 'potential.' City got taken to the cleaners with this deal and FSG should be given credit for getting so much for a trouble maker. Be thankful he is not LFC's problem any more. Now for a top striker and we are ready to go for next season.
12 Jul 2015 18:33:05
I think it's a FANTASTIC sale for us and QPR and City have been taken to the cleaners.
9.8 million for QPR
39.2 million for us. He could potentially end up a 50 million pound player.I think his true value at present is about £25 million.
Great sale by LFC let's see a few more please.
12 Jul 2015 18:35:04
Are you complaining about 1 million. Some people are never happy.
12 Jul 2015 18:38:17
he causing more harm than good, get rid!
12 Jul 2015 18:41:54
In the scheme of things that £1m isn't going to make much difference whatsoever, we had to get him sold asap in order to finance the move for Benteke before others step in. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
12 Jul 2015 18:42:14
Now we've shifted him can we con anyone into taking Joe Allen for £70 mill
12 Jul 2015 18:44:32
Why are we such hipocrites? Let's be honest, with his attitude it's very unlikely he'll ever be world class and based on current ability it's a miracle we got more than £25m.
Yet people moan about potentially paying less than that for Cheryshev who is just as good, albeit 3 years older.
We want everyone to over pay for our players, then expect bargains when we're the buying club. City have been ripped off here and any fool can see that.
12 Jul 2015 19:04:58
Sterling will only fail to be world class if he either doesn't apply himself or City don't manage his development properly. He's definitely got the talent.
That being said, £49m is a huge amount of money for him at this point in his career and I can't complain about that. But I'm still not exactly happy with how we ended up in a situation where, from nearly winning the league a few months earlier, a talented but inconsistent 20 year old could be persuaded that he was already too big for Liverpool.
12 Jul 2015 17:24:38
Listen first option means nothing nowadays we have all heard the saying money talks can anyone disagree it's creeping into all levels of the game from the top down to thw amateurs nowadays there is no such thing as playing for the jersey stevie g was the last of a dying breed any arguments with that point a think not, I'm a Scottish fan who would rather watch the reds than my own team they are the team we bought stevie Nicole from ha ha
12 Jul 2015 17:14:59
I've been a bit of a miserable sod lately where LFC is concerned.
When it came to renewing my season-ticket I had to consider the expense, time off work and whether I still had the "passion" enough to make sure they never walked alone.
I didn't.
My decision to forego my seat was made in mid-May but since then we've made some major changes in personnel. I'm happy, in general, with our additions so far and I'm overjoyed at the coaching changes.
This is tempered by the decision to keep Rodgers but the new staff won't be yes-men like Marsh and Pascoe.
I still don't regret my decision but think we are moving in the right direction and feel a bit more optimistic.
12 Jul 2015 16:41:28
Can someone please explain to me what 'first option' means in relation to football. It's always banded about but how much of an advantage does it give you ahead of other clubs who want to buy the player?
12 Jul 2015 16:59:32
Think it depends on the actual contract itself but usually my understanding was that you could either have a set buy back clause like barca and arsenal had with fabregas and a few others. Then there are some other ones like what bayern had with can if I'm not mistaken that they would have been informed Liverpool had an accepted offer and presumably they would have been given the option to match said offer.
I could be wrong on the exact details with the examples but I'm fairly sure that these are two cases that exist in football anyway.
12 Jul 2015 17:00:53
If a team has or is about to offer a player you have first refusal on, the owning club will alert you to the situation and allow you to negotiate with they player before any other team does. Or at least I think this is what it means
12 Jul 2015 17:41:10
Or in some cases, it's where an agent approaches a club and negotiates a first option clause for a few bob in their a**e pocket.
12 Jul 2015 17:41:51
It's all a bit nebulous as a player can't be forced to do anything.
12 Jul 2015 17:57:42
1) Hypothetically say Bayern have first option on Can at Liverpool. If Liverpool accept an offer for him from another club, say Real Madrid, they alert Bayern to the details of the offer that was accepted including the fee, payment structure, incentives and all that? And then Bayern can either decide whether or not they want to match those terms? But if another club, say Barcelona, want to buy Can, we don't have to let them know what offer we accepted. But surely if we set a valuation on a player it should the same for any club that might be bidding for him so the first option won't make a difference. Also won't agents involved know what offer was accepted and just let the Barca know what bid is necessary?
2) If it allows you to negotiate directly with the player before other clubs, agents can still speak to other clubs on behalf of the player and vice versa. If he sits down with your club, but wants to hear other offers before making a final decision are you at a significant advantage?
3) There must be something else if some clubs are paying millions for first option on certain players.
12 Jul 2015 18:05:38
That's a term used by the fans in this site to convince themselves over a player when you need him back. 😄
12 Jul 2015 16:30:38
Hi Eds, question regarding the tour. With Raheem now out of the travelling squad, is there or will there be another player replacing him in the 30 man squad?
{Ed001's Note - usually there would be a replacement, I would expect one of the youngsters to get a call up to go.}
12 Jul 2015 17:05:52
Was hoping you'd say that. Wonder who.
12 Jul 2015 17:03:05
Sinclair or Sergi Canos first cabs on the rank I would have thought
12 Jul 2015 18:29:55
Sinclair had gone to burnley on loan I think
12 Jul 2015 16:24:22
Think we have made some shrewd buys SO FAR . looking forward to seeing
Danny Ings he reminds me of a young Robbie Keane with his movement,speed and finishing!
Milner is a great buy for us too!
Clyne was easily the best full back in the league last year!
Bogdan is rated highly by Bolton fans!
Firmino looks classy let's hope he can adapt!
on the fence about Benteke only because of the price maybe better options out there maybe not!
I also think last eyars buys will improve now they have had a good time to bed in.
12 Jul 2015 16:31:39
Why do people talk about ings finishing? Do they even watch him, panics and can't finish more like!
12 Jul 2015 16:40:28
It seems you haven't watched him og
12 Jul 2015 16:42:31
Just a reminder OG one Ian Rush was very much as you describe Danny when he first came on the scene at LFC and we all know how Rush improved I do hope Danny can to but only time will tell buddy
12 Jul 2015 16:49:50
Several disheartening posts today O G. Look to the positive side before looking at the negatives
12 Jul 2015 17:01:50
It's just a pitty we live in a society where people are so focused on picking flaws in everything rather than thinking of a solution to a problem where they could actually be proven wrong. it's just far too easy to criticize
12 Jul 2015 17:11:11
Scored nearly 15 goals (more than any of our players) in the lowest scoring team in the league but yeah he clearly doesn't know where the net is at all
12 Jul 2015 17:13:55
Clyne better than Ivanovic?? 😂
12 Jul 2015 17:33:09
Did someone just mention Danny Ings and Ian Rush in the same sentence? That kind of behaviour can get you taken away by the 'looney bus' mate
12 Jul 2015 17:35:25
No reet mate, even his you tube clips show his misses haha
Albey, he ain't rushy for gods sake.
Just having a day I thing redman :( nothing I've said isn't true tho.
12 Jul 2015 18:06:35
Albey
Ian Rush played in the 80's. It's saddening compare two decades.
12 Jul 2015 18:23:12
Stand
I agree clyne is no way near ivanovic in defending but he is far superior in the attacking imo.
And i see you have been trying to show us the light on here. Clean your own house mate. Depay twice of sterling futurw ballon dor?? Darmain best right back in Italy? Heard of a chap called de sciglio? But unlike you people we don't need to bring up our rivals in each and every post unlike some on your page. Seem insecure a bit don't they?
12 Jul 2015 18:52:52
The point about Rush is it's a bit foolish to write a player off so soon. Give the lad a chance FFS.
12 Jul 2015 18:53:28
I doubt many right backs score as many as ivanovic.
12 Jul 2015 19:08:49
Redreet the fact you tend to take every normal football banter comment to heart would tell me your the touchy one. I think ivanavic is a better fullback that clyne, and the post said clyne was "easily the best in the league last season". Are we not here for the banter and opinions!?
As for depay I've never said he will win the ballon dor, and our right back time will tell how good he is. Not seen much of him. But he starts for Italy so must be one of the best there!?? Chill out your all set for a title challenge
12 Jul 2015 16:21:15
How do eds and reds, I'm reading report that we are after Medel? Could this finally be happening ed01?
{Ed001's Note - I wish.}
12 Jul 2015 16:48:34
I don't understand why people want medel, i remember him being quite rubbish for cardiff
{Ed001's Note - you obviously never saw him play for them then. Just ask Man City, who he completely dominated when Cardiff beat them, or many others. He was one of the few successes of Cardiff's season in the Prem.}
12 Jul 2015 16:59:19
maybe my memory serves me wrong then.
i seem to remember him playing in defense for them and not being very good there.
{Ed001's Note - he played in midfield and was their best player. Their defence had donkeys like Caulker in it.}
12 Jul 2015 17:06:10
oh well thanks for clearing my memory.
iv seen a few games for chile and he has always played well for them, but have not watched any of him club games.
what about a swap lucas for medel if inter still interested in him.
12 Jul 2015 17:32:56
I suggest you go watch the the Copa America games where he played on the left of a back three and was outstanding all completion long with better defenders and a top GK around him.
12 Jul 2015 18:07:34
Medal is a better player than Lucas. Now shoot me down on this but you could have only one in a team.
12 Jul 2015 18:55:02
redohio "Rodgers could play both of them as wingers in his midfield 9"
:-)
12 Jul 2015 15:50:46
Dear eds,
Any insight regarding the "broken" relationship between sterling and rodgers?
A few reports claim that the reason behind sterling wanting to leave is his relatinship with rodgers. although i doubt its the real reason. any thoughts?
{Ed001's Note - it was an issue, but nothing more than that. It is just a bit of PR to try and get away from the boos Sterling was getting at the end of the season. He did not leave purely because of Rodgers.}
12 Jul 2015 17:33:34
He was defo one of the reasons he left, IMO.
12 Jul 2015 19:08:26
Redohio.Nothing new there then. You always seem to have a negative opinion where Rodgers is concerned.If I went back and read all your posts I would think he was the anti christ
12 Jul 2015 22:50:47
Why should I do that, Red? That's your job.
12 Jul 2015 15:34:00
Torres, Suarez and Sterling bought for £48 mill and sold for £170 mill.
12 Jul 2015 15:42:07
Very one sided post. Would you care to put up the players Liverpool have purchased that haven't been sold for big money or even at madsive losses?
12 Jul 2015 15:45:37
Such a good stat to hear! At least some of our dealings have been good over the years
12 Jul 2015 15:50:29
Most clubs could say that though, Ronaldo at United, lots of chelsea profits (lukaku luiz bruyne) Spurs had bale, arsenal vanny p, fabregas etc.
They will probably answer with Carroll aquilani.
12 Jul 2015 15:50:59
Now now ozone, your not suggesting that these owners being very generous with transfer funds is a fallacy are you, they saved us I'll have you know!
And before you ask ozone, it was from the hooded claw ( that's a reference to a cartoon by the way ed's. )
{Ed001's Note - I remember it, wasn't it Penelope Pitstop?}
12 Jul 2015 15:56:39
And what did we do with the 170 mill is the question of the day? And how many league title have we won with that huge sum?
12 Jul 2015 16:00:47
No I'll leave that to either you Rover or the "getting a player cheap is like winning the league" mob. Or then again should I list some of those purchased with the dough such as Aspas, Borini, Alberto, Allen, Lallana to name a few.
12 Jul 2015 16:15:50
It was ed001, didn't think anyone would get that mate, kudos to you👏
{Ed001's Note - showing my age! Wacky Races was one of my all time fave cartoons.}
12 Jul 2015 16:18:36
So who are you complaining about? The owners, Rodgers, the committee? Or just Sunday hangover rant
12 Jul 2015 16:28:28
Your not alone there ed001
{Ed001's Note - they don't make them like that any more.....}
12 Jul 2015 16:55:09
I'm pointing out gmil that we are now officially a selling club with the owners resale concept in full flow, 2 seasons on the bounce. Nonetheless, Suarez was a Dalglish/ Commolli pick and Sterling came from the academy. Who's next? Will it be Phil, Sturridge or Ings, will it be Ojo, Sinclair or Clyne? Will it be Firminio, will it Can we'll have to wait and see. We hope it's John it's John, we hope it's John it's John . (Tae sera)
{Ed001's Note - Sterling came from QPR's academy.}
12 Jul 2015 17:01:34
Yes Ed001 I know but the point being Teds acquisitions don't really inspire much resale at the moment for the owners but who am I to pre judge the financial element in all this, I'm quite sure Mike Gordon has thrown more than enough data into his econometric model to churn out a result. My money's on Phil for next season, mind you he may even go this season.
12 Jul 2015 17:05:32
Give it half hour Waro mate "the saved us crew" will be out in force.
12 Jul 2015 17:08:33
It's a Liverpool page. if we posted a balanced argument of everything over the last 10 years it would be rather depressing so why not relish in the good.
12 Jul 2015 17:20:55
All 3 players wanted to go. It happens at every club. Liverpool are no different. If De Gea wants to go to Madrid this Summer there is nothing Utd can do. What is the difference?
12 Jul 2015 17:21:34
You may as well call man u a selling club because of ronaldo, de gea etc. The fact is all of these players didn't want to be at the club and we maximized the return we got off them. what's the problem with that?
12 Jul 2015 17:37:22
And what has that reinvested money gotten us, exactly? I'll wait.
Ps: Dick Dastardly and his sidekick Mutley were my fav characters on the Whacky Races cartoon series and you're right, they sure don't make em like they used to.
12 Jul 2015 17:49:41
All them players wanted to leave, torres wasn't playing well ,suarez wanted to leave the season before but was told to stay ,then he got a 4 month ban so was sold and sterling is doing everything he can to force a move hardly accounts to being a selling club because of them three who clearly wanted to leave. Why keep them around?
12 Jul 2015 18:01:31
'The Hooded Claw' had to be said, for best effect, in PP's Dixie accent though !
12 Jul 2015 18:25:42
I sometimes wonder why ozone and waro post always post in tandem? Just makes me wonder if they are locked up somewhere together and only released on set days. 😂😂
12 Jul 2015 18:27:21
Ed001,waro etc
You lot are surw showing your age. 😉
12 Jul 2015 18:56:24
Waro Ozone and Ohio - the Anthill mob
{Ed001's Note - that would make you Penelope then?}
12 Jul 2015 15:21:59
Best of luck to Glen Johnson who has just joined Stoke!
12 Jul 2015 15:42:58
Still think we have a better chance first game of the season if he's playing! But after that I wish him all the best
12 Jul 2015 15:44:56
Coincidence that it was only club against whom he gave a decent performance
12 Jul 2015 17:58:15
Johnson gave us great service, good luck to him.
12 Jul 2015 18:26:39
Yeah. forgot to add good luck glen.
12 Jul 2015 15:12:41
I would like to congratulate our club if this deal goes through.
Potentially, we may have crumbled to City's interest, and the brat certainly hasn't helped himself, but we must remember that no club should never have the right to stop a player leaving, regardless of contract etc.
This is why it makes tgis deal even more important, and by the luck of it, a pot if gold for our club.
Thank you for lining our pockets City.
Who says that FSG aren't learning?
12 Jul 2015 16:03:09
FSG are learning what from this?
12 Jul 2015 16:05:29
They've nothing to learn Davey, they've been pulling the wool over gullible fans eyes like yours since day one and continue to do so. Tut tut tut Davey, you being a scouser aswell, mind you Bootle, ah maybe that's why😉
12 Jul 2015 16:24:32
Waro can I ask why u think the owners r pulling the wool over our eyes
12 Jul 2015 16:37:27
Lbrett, look at archive posts of mine and you will see why, don't think the sensitive souls on here could take seeing me post it all again, they have thrown many hissy fits over the years so I think the eds need a break from removing abusive threads. You will have no shortage of posters telling you why soon no doubt, so you will get the gist anyway.
12 Jul 2015 17:09:12
Ok cheers Waro
12 Jul 2015 17:39:01
The owners gain mixed reviews, IMO. whether they have learnt anything or not, only time will tell.
12 Jul 2015 17:25:52
Yes - Lbrett, look at Waro's archive posts, and you will realise, he doesn't really have a clue about football, and more especially LFC. He justs likes to have a dig and be negative about everything LFC.
12 Jul 2015 15:09:27
If I was Mr Sterling I would ring in sick the day Man City play Liverpool at Anfield this season. Can you imagine the reception the kid will get! vitriolic and hostile are putting it mildly. Good luck kid I hope you go on to fullfill your promise but you jeez louise get better PR people!
12 Jul 2015 15:40:52
Agger isn't around anymore to do what he did to Torres though
12 Jul 2015 16:10:19
I trust skrtel to do that if he plays. But i also trust him to be late and concrde a penalty
12 Jul 2015 17:39:56
Nice one, Reet and you're prolly right.
12 Jul 2015 17:13:05
As if Sterling can hold down a missus the way he behaves.
12 Jul 2015 14:54:53
Eds fellow reds , with sterling looking close to leaving now .is there a replacement in place to come in or will they wait til he has gone .
12 Jul 2015 15:23:18
Do we really need a replacement?
If so then we could look at someone like Pedro but I would rather give Ibe the chance
12 Jul 2015 15:30:14
I for one hope that we do not sign another winger or attacking midfielder "for Sterling" as we have Firmino, Ibe, Markovic (who will come good in my opinion, loads of talent just needs games in his correct position), Lallana etc who play in the right. (only exception would be Reus but that's just not going to happen is it, even then we still have an overload of attacking mids).
Clearly we need a striker.
12 Jul 2015 16:23:22
A striker is all we need, we are overloaded everywhere with players ,hopefully we start shifting a few out now ,and bringing in another wide forward would stop ibes development
12 Jul 2015 17:33:49
A striker is what we need !!!!! to go with the 6 International ones we already have:-
Sturridge
Ings
Origi
Balotelli
Lambert
Borini
Not forgetting
Yesil
Sinclair
Ojo
12 Jul 2015 17:42:14
We have his replacements already in Ibe, Marko, Firmino and even Lallana if needed just in the first team alone. So again, why do we need him replaced?
12 Jul 2015 14:15:00
Hey Eds. sorry I know the Benteke question is probably doing your head in. Just interested to hear your opinion. Do you think we will get the deal done? Is the united interest genuine? Any activity from them? Be a shame to miss out as top strikers are hard to come by, despite mixed opinions, there's not many options available who would come to lfc, or we could afford!
{Ed001's Note - yes, yes, not that I am aware of.}
12 Jul 2015 14:06:54
We are again looking to strengthen midfield and attack but is anyone else concerned with our terrible record for goals against. Our defense has been a shambles for two years in play and at set pieces so can't all be a DM issue. We are also toothless in attack when we get corners and putting free kicks into the box.
What do you guys think is the way forward because even when we had two AMAZIng goal scorers on fire when Daniel and Suarez when scoring for fun we still couldn't win a title because our defending was so so bad.
What needs to be done because with the same defenders barring Clyne and same keeper I personally don't see how we shore up and start getting clean sheets.
12 Jul 2015 14:23:04
With inclusion of Macca there might be improvement when scoring from set pieces.As for defending O'Driscoll will develope player intelligence so that they don't lose their markers.So there might be an improvement in our performance at set pieces.
12 Jul 2015 15:08:01
Spot on McGoveb. That's been our biggest problem by far.
Indianscouser: Skrtel is like a cartoon cow on ice. No amount of coaching is going to turn him into Jane Torville. A personnel change in those on the pitch is what's needed.
Cue the "we've already hit a million centre backs brigade". And you boys may be right but we have to find a combo that can work together and defend as a unit. And we have to give that's unit a chance to gel and not knee-jerk back to Ice Cow when it doesn't work immediately.
12 Jul 2015 16:24:29
Hopefully the new coaches will help with it
12 Jul 2015 17:48:40
User13 is spot on. Skrtel is the common denominator in every bad combo we have. He is too old to change because he prolly thinks he's the best because he is picked in all the games by a coach who is incompetent regarding fixing our defence. Go figure. We need a better combo and Skrtel should be dropped but the Defensive Guru in BR, gave him a new contract so gird your loins for more headless defending and useless shirt grabbing
12 Jul 2015 14:06:07
if it's true, why the hell are we going to shell out £22m for Cheryshev. doesn't score many goals or provide many assists. Nothing better than what we already have. If we really want to get someone on board we should go for reus who can play different roles including a striker. We won't need Benteke in that case and can play ibe in RS's role.
12 Jul 2015 14:02:56
I see Gerrard was at fault for the oppositions goal on his debut hahaha
12 Jul 2015 14:27:01
I hope you're not a Liverpool fan.
12 Jul 2015 14:37:56
Like really 🙅😒
12 Jul 2015 15:11:07
There were many many times when Stevie won us games we had no right to win and got us back into games we had no right to be in.
He was a top top player and servant to this club.
Leave him alone and wish him well now that he has gone.
12 Jul 2015 13:46:34
Just thought I'd stick my nose in with regards to Benteke for you lot. I personally think he's the wrong type of player for you. I have seen a lot of posters recently calling out the people who think he doesn't suit the system calling it nonsense. But I agree , he doesn't suit your system at all. I'm not saying you can't change formation and style of play which if you did, Benteke could be a great player for you. What makes me think it won't happen? Well last season when you couldn't hit a cows arse, a certain Mr Lambert, who is a similar player to Benteke , thriving off crosses etc, didn't get a sniff. Your manager decided 6 midfielders was better than playing Lambert. What makes you think if Benteke is signed your style will change ?? I think Brenda is too stubborn to change and utilise his strengths, therefore he's not the right striker for you. Just my opinion
12 Jul 2015 14:15:30
Benteke is not a similar player to lambert. Despite simarities in height, they really are different. Benteke is powerful, direct, and has pace for a guy of his size. Lambert is more of a finesse player from what I've seen of him. He's misleading because he's big and somewhat slow.
12 Jul 2015 14:19:32
Maybe the new coaching staff could help Rogers utilise benteke to his strength or coach him to play in the style we play. Perhaps that was the issue last term, the staff weren't versatile enough. We have an experienced assistant and a cracking first team coach on the books this season. Not that I'm condemning pascoe or marsh.
12 Jul 2015 14:25:48
I agree, he suits your style more, as you can bypass your whole midfield with a long ball up from the back! Lol But seriously, worry about your own s***e, like whether or not your new "box to box" midfielder schweinsteiger can actually make it back to help defend if he eventually reaches the opponents 18 yard box and the unthinkable happens and you lose the ball! Who plays with him in midfield and makes the runs for him, he clearly has lost what legs he had last season, hence bayern getting rid!
12 Jul 2015 14:25:56
Thing is buddy we don't have a set system a word which many people obsess over. You never know Rodgers what "system he will dole out come the 9th". He would not be my preferred choice but i can see the merits
12 Jul 2015 14:27:31
Don't think Lambert and benteke are that comparable at all really as Lambert especially the last couple of seasons was nearly a clever false 9 type of player who looked to bring others into play. I get what you're saying in general but I think a lot depends on bentekes attitude and work ethic if he does join as much it is about how we play
12 Jul 2015 14:31:26
Firstly this will be Brenda's last chance so he will defo play Benteke which will be his signing.Next Benteke is not similar to Lambert what Lambert lacked was pace,as it could be seen when thru ball was played he could not get it clearly.Benteke could be coached to make those runs and use his abilities.Or Rodgers has to change tactics and this time we have firmino as goalscoring midfielder so he will make those runs.And with less stiker options available he will be good signing though at a price around 25 mil.
12 Jul 2015 14:38:20
Is a good player, yes! Does he suit our system, no. Main worry is don't see him and studge playing together and if played as a lone striker the team will probably have to play differently depending on who starts which can't be good
12 Jul 2015 14:46:23
Your missing the point in that they play the same way. Yes there is some differences. But Benteke feeds off crossed. Liverpool like to play the ball on the ground. You won't see Benteke playing off the shoulder of the last defender. He thrives off balls in the air. If you look at his goal stats you will see
12 Jul 2015 16:56:43
I don't think he would suit your lot either stand-united your system does not suit his style of play the scouser up front first choice you play to his strength's no gigs to get crosses in the argie lad struggling
12 Jul 2015 17:15:47
I don't want him mate. Much rather lacazette or Benzema etc
12 Jul 2015 17:51:53
Lambert and Benteke are not comparable as Lambo played behind Jay Rod and Osvaldo at Southampton while CB is an out and out target man.
12 Jul 2015 13:42:50
Now that Man Utd are interested in Benteke all of a sudden he's an imperious worldie and it's imperative we sign him. The fickle natuew of Football fans never ceases to amaze me!
12 Jul 2015 14:08:41
He's an average journey man footballer, they are welcome to him.
12 Jul 2015 14:26:28
Is that how you will support him if he joins us? Is that how you support liverpool players you don't rate? How do you expect players to respect and love their club with this kind of support from the fans!? I can't even imagine the abuse he will get if we sign him and heavens forbid he has a bad game!
12 Jul 2015 14:45:36
Oh sorry Steph are we meant to keep mum and agree with everything this manager does? Did you get behind Hodgson and Souness too? In the words of Nigel Pearson are you an unthinking ostrich?
12 Jul 2015 16:42:01
What does Benteke have anything to do with Rodgers? What does Rodgers have to do with you calling a player average? What does Rodgers have to do with you supporting your teams players! If it was up to you, Lucas would of been sent packing years ago and so would Henderson! You can say whatever you want about Rodgers because he tried and failed but give the guy a chance to prove his worth and then start talking smack!
12 Jul 2015 17:55:41
Steph, Benteke coming or not coming doesn't change the opinion of many that he is average and or doesn't suit us despite him having the ability and potential to be great. If he comes, we will support him and hope he helps us win games but for the time being, the op on him being average and unsuitable to us still exists and only time can change that. Af so BR, don't really care because everyone knows what I think of him as a manager.
12 Jul 2015 13:12:07
Talent without the right attitude amounts to nothing and it's a shame the way this whole Sterling saga is ending.
I really rate the boy but it's clear that he will never become the player most LFC fans feel he can under the current manager or with what appears in his head as some huge problem resulting in him wanting to leave.
He might get the correct environment at City to develop or he might disappear into a huge pile of cash like many players over the years who get too much too young who knows what the future holds.
To get near £50m for him is great business.
Let's hope it's spent wisely and not on more average squad players that the manager has a habit if doing.
If it is Benteke and not Reus or Lacazette as many wish then as long as we don't try and change the way he plays to suit us the way we did with Carroll then he could be a monster signing for us.
Front two with a fit Sturridge with one just behind and we will be greatly improved on last season.
Really looking forward to the new season and with new coaching staff in place now am very hopeful top 4 is on.
Exciting / Stessful summer as ever as an LFC fan but can see us going forward on and off the pitch and as long as Rogers doesn't put square pegs in round holes we can definetly feel confident for this season
12 Jul 2015 14:19:43
I'll be surprised if you get £50m. Plus doubt all of that will be upfront, and QPR will take a 20-25% cut of that also
12 Jul 2015 15:05:19
Yip 20% to QPR.
Can't see him leaving unless £40/45m not up front and City with FFP restrictions lessened and having to get some English players in would surely agree.
Would expect Benteke to arrive before end of July to bed him in .
If that's the last signing for the summer we're in a decent place to contend for top 4
12 Jul 2015 12:59:36
Hi eds any truth in that we are after Mario Gomez with Balotelli going to Fiorentina on loan?
{Ed002's Note - Not as far as I know.}
12 Jul 2015 12:37:42
So it looks like sterling may finally get his wish to leave. whether this is going to be a good move for him only time will tell. No matter what a player achieves at a club they always want to try something new, my only regret is the way it has been dealt with. So onto other matters, it is not something new as to whom we are after in the transfer market regarding a striker the eds have for so long informed us of benteke. This guy terrorised us on a number of occasions, i for one hope that we spend the money on him and anything left we put towards kovacic. Yesterday i read of someones post who thinks the top 4 is already sorted due to players like vidal and swinesteiger being signed and that we are in a fight with spurs for lower places. i'm sorry to disagree with that post i think we could have a very strong team capable of challenging the others and qualifying in those sacred 4 places. The new season is not yet on us so let's leave behind all that has happened and now get behind our team and our new signings, let them know they are welcome and as long as they give their all we will truly believe.
12 Jul 2015 13:01:57
It was me who wrote it and I dare you or anyone else to find one non LFC supporter anywhere in the world of football who think us or Spurs have a realistic chance to get in the top 4. And this is when the assumption is we get Benteke. At the moment there are more and more reports that ManU will bid for him while we don't seem to be in a hurry to do so and I cannot see him prefer us on them if they will bid for him. And Pedro seems to be joining Chelsea, not a bad signing either. Sterling and Gerrad have scored 16 for us last season, I am still not convinced we have found replacement for them let alone got stronger.
Again, I hate to be the ever pessimist and I understand that as this is pre season summer people here want to be optimistic otherwise what is the point to follow the team. But I always try to be realistic and make predictions not based on my love for LFC but on squad, manager etc. It is sport and anything can happen but I think for long time the gap between the top 4 and us has not been as big as it is this summer.
12 Jul 2015 13:19:06
Pedro is joining Chelsea? Where do you get all this? The daily star???
12 Jul 2015 13:33:22
Agree with fan, why people disagree baffles me! We don't just have to bridge the gap to 4th we have to exceed that gap as everyone else gets stronger. Man U midfield next year is going to be epic! Watch them fly. If the get Big Ben then he will score a load of goals and we will be stick with injury prone sturridge, can't be bothered balo. Big useless lump lambert and I really want to do well but I'm crap borrini. I was voted worst in the league origi. And I'm free so get me ings. Lol yes we started the window well but the top 4 soon make a few quality signings and ours start to look what they are!
12 Jul 2015 13:53:22
Fano, I agree with your view that being realistic and candid about our chance based on hard facts and recent poor history of the manager and club. As for the gap being wider btw us and the top four, only time will tell because until the games are played, we will not really know. We could have made top four last season in spite of our failures in the first half of the season. That tells you that there is not really that big a gap because the PL is getting poorer by the season. Sp based on that, only time will tell.
12 Jul 2015 13:54:05
I have to disagree with the doom and gloom. For a start the 16 goals by Gerrard & Sterling we are going to miss? Sorry but most of Gerrards goals were penalties so I'm sure the player who takes them next season will not miss them all. Also Gerrard was very much on decline last season, which a lot of fans with red tinted glasses will disagree, but the evidence is there in red & white. Well of the pace, passing, shooting & tackling all dipped. By no means am I slating him I just think it was one season too far for him & was not up to his standards. Sterling missed a million more chances than the ones he scored, his finishing is woeful & his greed at time & decision making has been horrendous for 18 months, I've believed the lad has been believing his own hype ever since he went to the World Cup & I think he thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. I think massively over rated & Ibe is far better. I actually think with them 2 gone along with Johnson, Borini & Mad Mario we'll be a better team & squad. I think Milner will hit 10 goals this season, Henderson, Lallana & Coutinho will hit double figures as will Ings, Sturridge, Firminio with Clyne & Skrtel adding a few from the back. Add a striker an that should give us another 15-20 & I believe we will challenge for honours this year
12 Jul 2015 13:55:05
Right here!
Genuine LFC supporter who thinks we'll finish top 3
12 Jul 2015 14:00:27
Fanobip. I think you are being too pessimistic. The transfer window has only been open 12 days and we have done some good business to date. A change if management up top (I wanted Brendan gone but at least we have got some good people in around him). Clyne, Milner and Firmino are good signings and don't under estimated Ings, whilst Gomez may well surprise a few.
Now Sterling is on his way Eds expect Benteke and Kovacic to follow. This will add a lot depth to the squad. Obviously we need to offload some players and it is with some concern that we may go through a period of transition again particularly with the tough set of away games but we have to think positively. We have to draw a line on last season.
If we get through to November in touch with the leading clubs we could be in for an exciting 2nd half of the season.
City and United have their own problems and whilst I expect Chelsea and Arsenal to be fighting it out a top 4 place is well in reach for a number of clubs including ourselves.
12 Jul 2015 14:02:51
That's it OG get behind the lads I love a bit of optimism
12 Jul 2015 14:27:32
Truly embarrassing stuff from og. And then these people hound ed002 when he criticizes the fans
12 Jul 2015 16:12:43
Hahahahaha, your funny you Ronald! Don't post what you are worst case hoping for, say were you genuinely think we can finish, and if you genuinely think top 3, then you have zero clue about football.
12 Jul 2015 16:33:45
Top 3 comfortably, I think we'll push for the title all the way.
12 Jul 2015 17:12:07
Oh dear Ron😕, your the antithesis of the " this year is our year " brigade who have continually embarrassed Liverpool supporters for the last 20 years.
12 Jul 2015 18:03:00
Slow your roll guys on the "well finish this or that or the title" stuff. Why? I heard all that before last season with all the money spent for the shambles we now know happened. I'm not as positive because not much so far this window, has shown we will be better than last season so I suggest that people reel in the trash talking a little bit because we went from second to sixth last season and that by any account, is failure.
12 Jul 2015 12:34:10
If sterlang does not come out and say one way or the other with regards his future a say get as much in for him ship him out and get someone in who wants to play for us no one is irreplaceable no matter how good ythey may think they are
12 Jul 2015 13:35:05
Pulled him from pre-season tour.
Looks like a deal for him to go to City all but done!!
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
12 Jul 2015 13:54:42
He's already gone and we have signed and promoted players to take his spot so don't understand the point of your post.
12 Jul 2015 17:21:08
If Sterling has gone I for one wish him well. The kid had special needs at school by all accounts so has done well to reach the level he has maybe he has been turned by the wrong people who do not have his interest's at heart just money and have been feeding him statements to say to the press. If Rogers had done what he did to me on camera in the USA I would hold a grudge against him to I thought at the time it was uncalled for and still feel the same . I also blame LFC I believe his agent and Sterling has done what they seen last season with Suarez forcing a big money move . This could be a common occurrence for the future at LFC because Suarez set a precedence last season that could followed by players for years to come
12 Jul 2015 12:06:00
Sterling out of tour squad, club in talks with city
12 Jul 2015 12:03:41
Sterling not travelling. At last we can move on
12 Jul 2015 12:37:05
Ok. enough is enough let's get the deal done, unload the brat, take the money & invest it WISELY in a proven player or two, not piss it away like we did with the Suarez money & move on. It's getting too disruptive & annoying.
12 Jul 2015 12:52:03
Let's hope he signs for them and as little as possible of the fee is contingent on future performances etc. I think he will struggle with the weight of the fee and the animosity that he has created, never really live up to the hype and end up being a journeyman player that accumulates many transfers between the bottom of the table teams. A Jermaine Pennant.
This isn't sour grapes (well, the above bit is but this next bit won't be) but I've always had a doubt about what will happen to his game as the years go on. By the time he's about 23 or 24 he won't have the gas to burn people off in quite the same way. What does he become then? Does he have the skills to reinvent himself as something else? Who knows and frankly who cares any more?
My strong feeling is that, after adjusting for inflation, this will be the highest transfer fee he ever commands. And he doesn't seem the type to be at one club for too long.
12 Jul 2015 13:57:29
Not too bothered. If anything, City have got the short end of the deal for now because he is still a kid learning the game and his deficiencies do not warrant the large fee they will pay. I wish him luck because he's going to need it.
12 Jul 2015 13:59:49
Sterling will be a success at City
A front 3 of Silva, Aguero and Streling will cause havoc
Not point pretending otherwise just because he's leaving us
12 Jul 2015 18:03:46
Agger, only time will tell.
12 Jul 2015 11:21:28
I can't keep up with all these rumours its getting a bit OTT at the moment. hernandez kovacic cheryshev benteke and higuain all in one blog page in the space of 5 minutes.
Anyways just wanted a condensed view from Eds who fo you see us getting between now and the start of the season?
Thanks a lot live the site. #YNWA
{Ed002's Note - Just read the posts. This is really getting hopeless.}
12 Jul 2015 12:19:07
Can I make a suggestion ed002, it may come across as your snubbing people, but if I were you and the other eds, any repeated questions I would put up but just wouldn't reply to them, eventually people will get the message. It must send you all loopy😦.
As a footnote, it looks like the rat may be finally going ( THANK GOD ) as we are in advanced talks with City at the minute.
{Ed002's Note - They will never get the message Waro - you know that. I am not sure about "advanced" talks but Liverpool and Manchester City are at the point where they are close enough to be able to get an agreement - absolutely critical to Liverpool will be the up front payment as the are very keen (and I am being polite) to get some cash flowing given the outgoings on transfers, the cash spent paying a couple of players off, the commitments already agreed to, etc..}
12 Jul 2015 12:54:57
Really ed002, that's an interesting twist to this story. Fingers crossed we get what we want or at least close to what we want, could be a cutting your nose off to spite your face scenario otherwise. Cheers for that.
{Ed002's Note - The books need to be balanced and the focus now will be the sale of RS, getting Benteke over the line, getting some folks moved on.}
12 Jul 2015 13:49:40
Can Kovacic still happen ed?
I mean we pushed for the deal nearly 3 weeks ago and now we're focusing on benteke and outs.
If we had of got kovacic would we of left benteke?
And lastly ed. Sorry for going on but weres the plan b if kovacic didn't happen? We have identified that type of player yet when kovacic doesn't seem to happen where's the other targey?
I wouldn't mind coutinho deeper and cheryshev on the wing.
{Ed002's Note - Benteke and Kovacic are completely unrelated. The problem with Kovacic is the same as it was - the club does not have the money available to pay the asking price and does not want to pay more to have their terms met.}
12 Jul 2015 10:51:36
Eds, sorry for multiple questions in one post, would be grateful for any info you could offer.
1) Using search function - I gather no offer (yet?) on Cheryshev - has the club ever shown any interest?
2) The situation with Benteke has drawn on some time now. Where precisely is the club at with him - what is holding up the deal - terms with player? Price with Villa? Has the player said he would like to join LFC?
3) Ibe on loan? - Seriously?
Many thanks,
Rob
{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to any little blow by blow accounts. I have explained the situations as I know them. As for Ibe a loan is certainly one possibility.}
12 Jul 2015 11:22:25
I can't imagine FSG will sanction anymore of the manager's insane desire to collect attacking midfielders while sending the ones we have on loan or Brendaning them.
12 Jul 2015 11:18:41
i imagine with sterling leaving, we would need ibe.
12 Jul 2015 12:24:32
Impress on loan, recalled, play well out of position, out on loan again. He is ahead of marko for me and probably most of our other attacking players bar couts firmino and sturridge
12 Jul 2015 12:54:39
I don't think he would be on the tour if he was going on loan but with this manager I guess anything could happen. Would be a real slap in the face to the kid I imagine.
12 Jul 2015 14:02:20
No more mids and wingers, pls. Good Heavens, what is it with BR and mids as well as people who think as soon as a player leaves, he should be replaced? If you have six CB's and you only need four and you sell two and replace them, u still have six and right back where you were. Simple math, really. Get Benteke, make the sales and shut up shop.
12 Jul 2015 15:07:07
Would be a really poor move, in my opinion, if we loaned out Ibe.
12 Jul 2015 09:50:40
Did citeh bid for Raheem again yesterday ed002? I take it he's on the plane to Thailand?
{Ed002's Note - I understand an offer was made. I am not aware if it was acceptable and have no idea of his schedule.}
12 Jul 2015 11:03:29
Do you reckon they'll ask for their money back or an exchange when they realise Ibe and Ojo are both better players than Raheem?!
12 Jul 2015 11:21:52
Essex.
Ojo hasn't kicked a ball at the top flight and you assume he is better than a player who scored 13 goals last season and 7 recently?
have you know a player called Loftus cheek? The kid is the best out there yet would struggle to get in regular hand time.
12 Jul 2015 11:34:45
Try watching Ojo, technically he is way above Sterling already. As a 17 yr old in the Championship last year he stood out massively. And he doesn't spend the whole time falling over like Raheem
12 Jul 2015 12:11:15
" The kid is the best out there yet would struggle to get in regular hand time."
Most lads have no problem getting regular hand time.
:-)
12 Jul 2015 12:55:47
Won't inquire as to how you might know that Brendan, sorry, Ron.
12 Jul 2015 14:14:42
Glory, is it too much to ask that you at least, try to give our youth a chance to prove themselves instead of berating them for not getting said chance due to the cowardice and incompetence of both the club and the manager to have a suitable structure to bring them through? I have seen Ojo's highlights and he is a beast of a player. Bigger, faster, and is two footed, all attributes that is needed in PL so why can't he hack it? because BR said so? Like BR's word about our youth is worth anything based on his inability to give them chances. I'll sooner believe you before him, thank you. I don't know if he'll make it but I would sure like for him to prove us all right or wrong. After all, the Ibe and RS u speak of were given a chance as well, right? Hence, why should Ojo, Rossiter and who ever else be given the same chance? N btw, the pathetic excuse of "if they were that good, BR would play them" schtick no longer flies because we have seen how BR has mismanaged our youth and has tried to sell, frozen out or sold them at the first opp he has gotten.
12 Jul 2015 10:01:53
My take on this Benteke situation, as a club we have numerous strikers and this season we have 2 new strikers in Ings and Origi. Unless Benteke is definatly the best striker for us we will be wasting our money like so many purchases before. Hopefully we can sell sterling and do some sort of book balancing. I would much rather keep what we have and utilise a lot of young talent buy building a solid defence and midfield and letting the young attacking players play. Good coaching and an attacking attitude should be enough to make us very competitive this year with no further purchases. We lead the way in terms of style of attacking that Barca have converted too this year very effectively so let's utilise the excessive pace in the team and counter attack like daemons :)
12 Jul 2015 10:33:06
That's certainly not the way Brendan is thinking and I assume during his review with the owners he stressed the Balo situation to the league table and there by making a striker no.1 priority.
12 Jul 2015 10:59:36
So to summarise you North, we don't need top strikers because if only we will have an attacking attitude we can play like Barcelona? Seriously? You think Origi and Inges are good enough to lead our attack when the teams above us have Aguaero, Costa, Sanchez, Rooney and Kane? good luck with that. As long as balancing the balance book will make you happy. I have never heard of a ManU or City or Chelsea fan who asks the owners not to buy new players because they want them to be more careful with the balancing books. and they really don't need new strikers. we desperatly do.
12 Jul 2015 11:11:53
Agree with north but unfortunately we are managed by Rodgers.Rodgers can be arrogant to fulfill his philosophy,but instead of looking for solutions he keeps on whining &make excuses.
12 Jul 2015 11:18:20
Goin to love next season on here with all the back-tracking on Rodgers by the usual suspects.
Can't wait!
12 Jul 2015 11:27:48
fanobip, you didn't manage to summarise me very effectively. I said we played very effective counter attacking football in reference to the 2013/14 season and really tore up the premiership. Barca had a massive change in style this season and its proven to be a similar counter attacking style to the way we played in that season and they have equally destroyed other European teams. Do we have players to compete with Barca? no of course not. Would we be a better team with Aguaero and Costa in the team ? well ofc we would be. Is there a player of that calaber available at the price we can afford and wants to play for us this season? I don't think there is according to what the edds can tell us. I don't think Benteke is in there class in terms of finishing and certainly not work rate. If we could rewrite several expensive purchases then maybe we would be in a better position to throw money at that sort of player but we are where we are. You sound like a child crying for more sweets when their mother has nothing in her wallet.
12 Jul 2015 12:24:21
Ron Keague may i know if u have identified any particular style being played by us last season.And Do u agree with most of his post match comments Last season .And how do u justify playing Can at right back?
12 Jul 2015 13:22:28
Indian scouser nobody needs to defend anything that happened last season.what happened happened. Ron said next season lad. Should we get Stevie G on here to explain why he slipped the previous season. Brendan Rodgers is our manager tough we deal with that until a change is made. Fair enough he is not good in an interview I couldn't care about how he speaks to the media. I would rather a manager didn't but he has to. Can could be justified playing at RB because we tried Manquillio he was rubbish and can had played some decent games for us so was given a try. If you look at how Can is able to run with the ball and take it past players and is also very able to tackle he also had a great engine so yeah if I was stuck I would have given him a shot. People need to get over the fact be played can at RB last season he tried something that didn't work. People use this can being played out of position to base a reason for BR to be fired have zero idea what they are spouting and just seen one of the eds say it. Also what part of his interviews did you not like??
12 Jul 2015 14:08:25
Style? What do you mean? Formation, tactics, philosophy?
Couple of comments around that. Lots of new players last summer, pivotal and best player sold, truncated pre-season due to World Cup. We had minimal chance to get any consistency due to above. Without consistency you can't compete and identifying "style" is near impossible.
Pre or post match comments: firstly a manager has to juggle various competing interests when commenting publically. He has to stay on side with his bosses, he has to send them a message he is in control. He has to send a message to his players, he has to keep them motivated, focused, enthusiastic and committed. He has to send a message to fans that he's in control and the team is working non-stop for success and to keep the faith. He has to send a message to opposition players and managers. He has to send a message to the press.
All this on the back of a bad result or a poor performance or a pre match injury, a player causing a media storm, players behaving unprofessionally or an inept referee performance.
It's not easy, and that is why pre or post match comments go in one ear and out the other. They are relatively meaningless to me.
I don't know why he picks player x in position y. Why does it really matter, results are everything, performance is the cherry on the cake. The rest is irrelevant.
12 Jul 2015 14:16:18
Seriously Hans Moleman, not sure where to begin with your re-writing of last season. You're comparing an accidental slip to the manager of LFC so basically you're saying management is luck and chance? Deluded. The guy is completely out of his depth as evidenced by him wanting rid of Ilori while simultaneouly giving Skittles a new 3 year contract. Then wanting to sign another attacking midfielder while ignoring Markovic and sending Ibe on loan again. Thankfully I cannot see Mike Gordon falling for it and hopefully the Nose will be told to use Ibe, Marko and Ojo instead of wasting more cash.
12 Jul 2015 14:17:39
Indian, you're barking up the wrong tree with Ron. he himself says he wouldn't mind BR being sacked but you wouldn't know it with the way he blindly defends him with the most illogical of reasons and suppositions.
12 Jul 2015 09:23:00
I wish I could understand the club's policy in signing a top striker this summer. If Benteke is indeed the number 1 target why don't we pay Villa the asking price and take him? - we could have done this weeks ago. Do we wait for someone else to do it? Reports today suggest ManU will. There are very few top stirkers in Europe at the moment, high demand and you cannot assume you will always be able to negotiate the price down.
If not Benteke I don't see many other options to be honest. Laccazette will not be coming, neither will hernandez and definitely not Benzema.
I can't understand this lack of willingness to pay the extra 3-4 millions just becuase we think the price is a bit expensive - same with Kovachich. Even if we think that Benteke is worth only 25 millions, it is not the case that there is another top striker around that we can buy for 25 millions and want to come to us and will score 15-20 goals a season. If we are bold enough to demand 25 millions for Sterling we have to be willing to pay 32.5 for Benteke.
{Ed002's Note - It really is not that simple if you don't have the money.}
12 Jul 2015 09:57:08
Lols. Ed02 on target with the most simplified answer ever. We have no money unless you take debt which in ideal world is a poor choice.
Y is this very hard for people to understand.
This deal ll happen only once Sterling is sold IMO else more debt.
12 Jul 2015 10:03:59
Well I don't get the impression this summer that we don't have the money. We don't seem to be desperate to sell - not even Sterling or Baloteli, which we don't want anymore. Every day I read about a new youngster that we spent another 3-4 millions on buying, we were willing to pay more than £20M on Kovachich, now we are willing to pay more than £20M on Cherichev who didn't even make it to the bench in Real Madrid and I didn't hear anyone in Spain think he is this unbelivable talent - and all these are for midfield anyway.
If a top striker is our number 1 priority it mean we should be willing to pay a bit more on him. I mean if the owners think Benteke is worth 15M fair enough. But if they think he is worth 26-27 million they may still have to pay the extra 5 millions just because there is no other available top striker that will be willing to come to us, can score the 20 goals a season and are considerably cheaper. I don't think our owners are not willing to invest I just always get the feeling that they are looking for bargains - finding the next young diamond that we will buy cheaply and will become the next Luis Suarez. That's great but sometime to be sucessful you need to buy proven talent and you have to be willing to pay for that.
12 Jul 2015 10:36:48
There are plenty of strikers out there who would fit in pretty well with our other players and would come cheap.
Willing to come to us is directly proportional to the wages you offer and the CL place you show them.
We have already smashed our wage structure offering 150 k to a veteran who in all reality will never win us the league.
Money would be made available by hook or crook ( preferably adding more debts incase we don't recoup from sales ) for the striker manager wants.
12 Jul 2015 10:54:24
We always end up with 3rd or 4th choice players because we penny pinch. We then wonder why we are crap! We are toothless up front yet we have done nothing about it. We want benteke but don't pay what's needed. We will probably end up with llorente another 3rd or 4th choice just to save a few quid. Fsg do not have the legs for this game, no doubt the reason they are looking for investors.
12 Jul 2015 11:04:08
No free dinners European Glory. We tried that with Balotelli didn't we? top striker who come cheap. See where it brought us. If you want quality you have to pay. and if you don't play in the CL you may have to pay more.
12 Jul 2015 11:29:53
I don't agree on the point about debt always being a bad thing.
If you borrow money to buy an asset then your net worth doesn't change. Same as if you take a mortgage.
Yes, there is interest but there is a hidden benefit there too: interest payments are tax deductible for companies.
Debt is just a normal and tax efficient financing tool. Not a big evil monster.
12 Jul 2015 11:40:27
Euro, who are these 'plenty of cheap strikers? And are they seriously any better than what we have? because it ain't cheap if they just sit on the bench like all of ours last season.
12 Jul 2015 11:44:01
If followed, that train of thought would have cost us millions upon millions more than we've already spent in the last few years,
Haggling the price is kind of how it works,
12 Jul 2015 13:44:41
User013 - It's OK to go into debt to purchase an asset as long as there is a low risk attached to value of that asset and you expect a good return. That's why it's reasonable to pay a small fee for 1 or 2 like Joe Gomez - the balance of risk and reward looks good as long as the structure is there to bring then through. Paying over the odds, using money we don't have for a striker who won't fit our system looks less good - the panic buy of Andy Carrol being a case in point. We paid massively over the odds and then the player devalued over the time we had him because we didn't play to his strengths. If we have learned our lesson then good.
12 Jul 2015 14:21:20
Mitrovic, would be one and Ed02 suggested him. He is way cheaper than Benteke. Never seen him play but he seems a good fit based on the Ed's opinion
12 Jul 2015 09:14:04
It's worrying we seem to be flooding the midfield again and ignoring the fact we still have NO goalscorer.
Same old story next season. Toothless since Suarez left (see what I did there) I'll get my coat
12 Jul 2015 09:41:17
You obviously don't understand Rodgers 0-10-0 system?
It will baffle all the opposition.
Even our own team.
12 Jul 2015 09:52:33
The windows open 12 days, we've made a few signings, relax
12 Jul 2015 09:05:14
Hey lfc fans.
So after all the complaining how do U feel now going into the season without benteke. ?
Origi
Ings
Sturridge - at best 14 games in a season
Balotelli . - can't count him (useless)
Lambert - can see him sold
So that as your strike force. Not going to cut to top 4 Hmm as well know the pass pass pass pass pass infront of tbe back four won't help lfc score goals . U know that annoying arsenal way of nobody on the box
12 Jul 2015 09:40:59
I've been saying it a while but I will say it again: I think Benteke would be a great signing for us.
Exactly as you say Lobster last year we were cutting inside looking to pass it into the net every time. Teams just stand off us and watch us do it because they can see we have no other option save a long range dig.
Just by being there Benteke would give us a whole new option. That gives their defence something to actually think about and that even makes passing it into the net more likely.
I'm tired of all this "he doesn't fit our style" nonsense. Our style left us in 6th place. Styles need to evolve otherwise you become predictable and get beat every week.
12 Jul 2015 09:45:16
Is it too much to ask for just one positive post from you??
12 Jul 2015 09:54:29
I love how you can predict sturridges games, can you give me next week's lotto numbers while you're at it, ta
12 Jul 2015 09:58:39
We had a striker last year who would have let us swing balls into the box and score from crosses
The manager would rather play with no strikers than play him
This is why Benteke doesn't fit our system - the manager will not utilise his strengths.
12 Jul 2015 10:22:03
Thd only difference between Benteke and Ballo is the attitude the manager towards both the players.
Ballo was not BR pick while Benteke is. Balo was a gamble at 16 mill while Benteke doubles it.
What baffles me, the club would have to cough close to 35 mill on a striker and the only we got in our list is Benteke!!
12 Jul 2015 10:30:28
Going into the season without benteke? Is it August already?? Get yourselves a holiday guys and just relax. I'm sure we'll sign a decent striker. You all must have had a heart attack if you'd been Manchester city fans
12 Jul 2015 10:47:46
I guess he meant Lambert rather than Balotelli.
Balotelli is a much deeper lying player that likes to drop off into midfield and collect the ball. This exacerbates the nobody-up-front problem.
Lambert isn't like Benteke so the comparison isn't a good one.
12 Jul 2015 11:19:41
Very happy. Firmino will create plenty of goals for them.
12 Jul 2015 11:22:24
Balotelli plays the false striker position, where he plays in the position as a striker, but does nothing that a striker should.
12 Jul 2015 11:33:10
I actually wouldn't mind not signing a striker and giving Origi and Ings and proper go. Then allowing sturridge to come back when we are ready. That's what we bought them for, to play, isn't it??
12 Jul 2015 11:47:04
Sturridge while injury prone may come back fine for us. He has just had another surgery to fix the issue that was apparently causing all the others. How can u possibly predict how many games he will play.
12 Jul 2015 14:30:16
CGlory, you are wrong again. Balo did not want Balo YET let the deal go thru, is that what you're saying? because if it is then you are wrong. If he had the power to stop the Remy deal at a whim, how do you propose he couldn't stop the Balo deal then because even Ed02 at the time said he had said power to stop the deal if he wanted to? Stop this nonsense about Balo not being his choice because that's a cop out. Bottom line is that BR is just as guilty for his arrival because he did NOTHING to stop it YET he did all or dithered to stop Bony, Remy and every other striker that was proposed to him per, Ed01's info. If you have better info that Balo was forced on BR, please share. But if you don't, stop absorbing him of blame for the Balo debacle because that has no basis in fact.
PS: "No one will come here that the manager doesn't want". Three guesses as to who made that quote in a May of last year.
12 Jul 2015 08:17:53
Ed 02 last tercera Chile an newspaper , reporting that far medel is ready for a historical move to Liverpool as you are a big fan of medel is there anything in this? Or just paper talk?
{Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}
12 Jul 2015 13:01:16
Sorry that shouldve been to Ed 01 as he's a bug fan of medel.
{Ed002's Note - The answer will be the same. It has been dealt with.}
12 Jul 2015 08:06:20
Hi do you like
My sons goal at the nou camp in an under 7's tournament
https://youtu.be/ve20_vkkicU
It's been in the news after the video company uploaded it. Very proud, he is very strong and talented
Thanks Scott Murray
12 Jul 2015 09:56:14
Great Goal congrats mate
12 Jul 2015 05:37:47
Ibe is similar to Depay without set piece ability.Had Ibe come from different league he would have got similar hype.Coutinho can be our answer to Hazard but Hazard has higher consistency levels and fulfills his ability each time he plays.Also we have Can and Markovic.Brendan Rodgers should help these younsters to fulfill their potential.
What do u guys think?
12 Jul 2015 07:16:51
Depay scored a whooping 25 goals in the league last season and don't be delude comparing Ibe to depay. Depay is as good as Hazzard.
Taking set piece is not as simple as drinking tea. It's a skill which you need to master it and only top class players at the clubs go for it.
How many apart from Gerrard and Suarez has put the ball back into the net from free kicks?
12 Jul 2015 07:19:06
If you discount the no of penalties from total goals scored by Hazzard you would be surprised to the see the figure.
12 Jul 2015 07:31:38
Depay scored 22 goals last year. Ibe scored 0. Hazard sored 14 league goals, Couts 5 and I think the ratio of assists is similar. Chelsea is just about to release Oscar - a player with the same style as Couts andwho scored and provided more assists than him last year despite being a substitute in most games. Markovich wouldn't make the bench of any of the other top 4. BR will help them fulfill their potential? when is the last time he did this with a player?
The amount of wishful thinking and self deciept of fans in this site is unbelievable. I understand fans need some reasons to have a hope before the season starts so I will try in the future not to ruin this celebration of unbased optimism but sometimes I just cannot resist responding. Sorry Indianscouser you can now keep doing you comparisons.
12 Jul 2015 07:36:35
Depay scored as many as Lacazzate playing out wide and only Grizemann would have a better stats on that position.
12 Jul 2015 08:22:21
Oscar and Couts are different players.Hazard is very important for Chelsea by making the key passes in final third,also his finishing is good,Coutinho plays similar role for us by finding the key passes but his finishing needs to improve.I didn't mention Couts as like to like replacement for Hazard,but the way he was instrumental in winning games for his team so regularly in a similar way couts can do it.
Stats are always a decent indication of players ability but they r not the only indicators.Going by stats Harry Kane shouldn't have scored 30 goals in a season.I agree Depay is more proven but what we have seen of Ibe is it not possible for him to achieve his potential and score many goals for us?
12 Jul 2015 08:23:57
Pretty sure ibe scored while on loan and provided assists and mom performances to boot. Absolutely not comparing him to depay but his talent and ability cannot be dismissed so easily. Not to mention the assists he provided when he came back from his loan. Only cup ties and injury prevented him from contributing more.
He will be as good and potentially better than depay with consistent game time. I agree that hazzard is a class apart, firmino is closer to his quality but needs consistency.
12 Jul 2015 09:21:35
Your all missing the fact that Depay will be in the premier league this season. Totally different from any other league in the world. He will never score 20 plus goals in his standard wide position!!
If he does like the age old cliche, I will eat my hat!!!
12 Jul 2015 09:24:00
Depay is a very good player, but psv walked the league. Hazard is better despite the stats. I think % of the teams goals and assists is a better indicator, especially considering how few liverpool scored comparing to chelsea and psv, in that sense coutinho is as important to us as hazard although not at that level yet
12 Jul 2015 09:34:08
Its true only Gerrard and Suarez have scored free kicks for us the last few years. But then who else was allowed to take them?
12 Jul 2015 09:55:25
Seen to remember hendo sneaking one where it went past everyone
12 Jul 2015 09:59:41
Mickrude.
Who took in Gerard's absence last season? I saw a couple from Hendo reaching Mars.
12 Jul 2015 10:44:04
Although I'm not doubting his ability, people have to remember Depay did it in a league where Kezman and Afonso Alves held goal scoring records. They showed that repeating that in the premier league isn't as easy as RVN made it look.
12 Jul 2015 11:23:07
Balo is one of the best free kick takers in the world bar none.
Depay is not as good as Hazzard FFS.
Firmino will show you exactly how average Depay is.
Ryan Babbel v 2.0.
12 Jul 2015 13:42:15
Your calling Depay average based on what? can't be performances or stats as they are brilliant. Plus legends of the Dutch national side have said he has the world at his feet. He may struggle he may not. Only time will tell. But for you to call him average is laughable. Hazard played in the French league which doesn't come close to premiership and look how he's turned out. One thing depay does have is strength and power which will stand him in good stead for the oremiership
12 Jul 2015 14:13:41
Ok, if you don't like average how about mediocre or over rated? Take your pick.
I don't rate players based on nebulous "stats", I use my own judgement.
12 Jul 2015 18:07:28
Which is severely flawed, Ron because you have no idea if Depay will be good or bad and your judgement ain't worth much because you are the one who kept rooting for BR to stay yet you also kept saying you wouldn't have a prob with him getting sacked. Make up your mind, bro!
12 Jul 2015 05:04:24
Eds Is it difficult to coach or learn
things such as
i)Commanding the box by a GK.
ii)Maintaining the def line by a def.
iii)Running behind the defence by a striker?
Because this basic things are difference between really good and average players.
Thanks.
{Ed001's Note - it really depends, every player is different, but they should be basic ideas that are easy to coach to the vast majority of people.}
12 Jul 2015 08:26:23
If it really was that easy then every player playing professionally would have learnt it at some point.
Unless it's just not being thought and training sessions are literally just slaloming through cones.
12 Jul 2015 09:26:13
A lot of it is natural I believe! I play hockey and when we are short our football striker fills in, he is no where near as good as the rest of the hockey team but scores a lot from being in good positions, and making intelligent runs, despite never training in hockey.
12 Jul 2015 11:01:18
Hard to teach "timing" and "reading the game".
Easy to j about in training, harder to simulate in a game.
12 Jul 2015 01:12:45
Eds, I wonder if I could make a suggestion on a feature for the site? Have you guys ever considered a wall of fame page? Only posts with a good amount of likes go on there? I imagine it would stop a lot of repeat posters asking questions already dealt with at length without having to point them to the search function. Just a thought.
{Ed001's Note - we have tried similar ideas in the past, nobody bothers to take any notice of anything we have tried to cut down on repeat questions.}
12 Jul 2015 08:29:01
Maybe a post of the week section.
A really good post that will create loads of discussion comes in and you can stick it on this page right at the top and leave it open for a week for posters to post under?
Sometimes you see a good post come in and it's gone after a week and you feel it could have gone a lot longer but nobody reads the banter2 and 3 pages.
{Ed002's Note - Posts get deleted for all sorts of reasons - trolling, abuse etc.. We are not going to do that.}
12 Jul 2015 11:05:10
Why bother?
Praise comes in constantly so I'd say the vast majority like the site the way it is.
Post of the week? Who is going to bother about that? These types of suggestions often come in during preseason.
Get outside, enjoy the weather, the football will be back soon and no-one will be asking for any of this.
11 Jul 2015 21:14:59
Question for the eds or any of the posters familiar with some of tge younger teams. I've seen that Daniel Cleary has been picked to go on the pre season tour and that has generated a bit of press in Ireland
Does anyone know what the club has planned for him or how the view him? Potential loan for the season, future first teamer or with the signing of Gomez who is a similar age just one who won't be quite couod enough for Liverpools first team?
Thanks a lot
12 Jul 2015 00:17:38
Banter Please:
I see Stephan El Shaarawy looks like he is on the way to Monaco from AC Milan; loan with a permanent deal after 15 appearances - I would've thought he was a better option however I believe he has had injury problems (2m euros then 15 million after 15 appearances).
12 Jul 2015 10:58:08
He is an excellent player when fitone of europes top attacking prospects better than draxler and Lucas moura imo. Just he's never fit