Liverpool Banter Archive January 12 2016

 

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12 Jan 2016 19:54:26
Maybe we or should I say I have been hasty knocking the Caulker loan. Maybe it makes sense, may be Klopp and the transfer committee have found the way to go. Sign players who have had nightmare cup ties against us. Last time we signed someone who had a stormer against us we got Bogdan so maybe terrible performances is the way to go.

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12 Jan 2016 23:36:31
Still can't believe that his two games against us was the main reason behind signing him, is that honestly the in-depth level of our scouting department?
Cheeky bids for Andy Carroll and James Collins in the pipeline.


12 Jan 2016 23:38:03
that logic sounds good enough for me.


12 Jan 2016 19:42:07
Wellcome to LFC S. Caulker. i wanted lfc to sign Caulker under Kenny, when he looked promising at horsespurs. and now he couldn't hope for any better manager to work with in Klopp and Buvac guidance. i hope Caulker is ambitious to force the managers attention. and at least, he will help with the aerial presence and won't get bulied so easily.

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12 Jan 2016 23:41:56
Not the worst. Already used to prem life so won't need to adjust, didn't spend 30mil on him and now we have atleast a senior cb available instead of enrique playing there.


13 Jan 2016 00:39:52
Klopp installed confidence in Origi, so who knows if he can help Caulker to live up to his potential?


12 Jan 2016 19:29:08
ED001 or ED002 have you guys any idea if caulker eligible for the 3 cups we left in? (capital one, f. a., and the Europa league)

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{Ed002's Note - League Cup no; FA Cup yes but not the replay. EL yes but would need to be registered in place of someone else first.}

12 Jan 2016 19:50:30
cheers ed, I wasn't sure about the El I wasn't sure if he played for the saints and that made him in-eligible.


{Ed002's Note - It was in the qualifying rounds only so it is waived.}

12 Jan 2016 21:51:32
Wasn't Enrique registered for the Europa?


12 Jan 2016 19:28:33
with shelvey showing off his newcastle shirt for the press, reports are saying liverpool will get 30% of the fee other outlets saying 10% are any of these figures accurate or is it just empty words again from our press.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea, sorry.}

12 Jan 2016 21:06:07
If we can piss away money on the likes of balotelli, markovic, lallana, benteke etc. Then there's no point even caring about a sell on clause really, can't see 1.2 to 3.6 million being of much use expect for covering the weeks wages maybe.


12 Jan 2016 18:24:42
Ay boys just heard klopp wants to take tony hibbert on loan till the end of the season klopp reckons he had a stormer at centre half against benfica away in 2007.

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12 Jan 2016 18:21:38
I assume Wisdom is injured as it would have made more sense to recall him rather then get Caulker on loan.

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12 Jan 2016 18:38:17
He played at the weekend i think.


12 Jan 2016 18:41:30
Maybe Norwich would not agree to cancel the loan? He features pretty heavily for them.


12 Jan 2016 20:52:40
Maybe Klopp thinks Caulker is better than Wisdom.


12 Jan 2016 23:25:06
When was the last time Wisdom played CB? (That's a genuine question as I don't know) As far as I can see his is now a RB who played CB at youth level. We need someone who can slot in straight away if needed not someone who needs to familiarise themselves with the position all over again.


12 Jan 2016 18:13:39
Welcome to LFC Steven. just give everything you have to every game, keep focused for 90 mins and you never know, you may become a fans favourite in weeks. Ideal opportunity for you to show your qualities. Ps some of the comments on here don't represent the huge majority of fans, be patient, take your chance, and good luck for the future.

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12 Jan 2016 22:37:49
well said tel, i know he is not the big name we all want but any big name who comes in may be not as good for us and then we have wasted a lot of money because of his big name, maybe the fans would have been happy then, klopp knows what we need and he knows what players we need, if people on here want to slag him off before he has played for us then that's down to them and you will find out that if he plays well these people won't hold there hand up and come out and say i ripped him before he played for us and he has proved me wrong, for me as long as he does a good job for us i will be happy he is under no pressure and will play like that so he could be a good signing for us.


12 Jan 2016 23:21:56
Well said Tel, some of us realise that it's realistic options we have to go for (especially this month) and he's available NOW, has experience of the PL, is good in the air and willing to come! Some still expected us to get players like Hummels etc, so of course they will be disappointed!


12 Jan 2016 18:09:04
To me the loan makes sense,

Like klopp said he has prem experience and he is good in the air which is where a lot of teams have hit us due to the high press.

Illori is not ready for the prem, klopp will no doubt make a plan for him (if deemed good enough) but we can't just chuck him in at the deep end and expect him to swim.

Having an extra body means those injured won't be rushed back which would leave them prone to more injuries.
Skrtle is out for 6 more weeks, toure cannot play twice a week, and lovren and sakho are both prone to niggles.

I know its not the top name people want but your not going to sign one in January.
This signing suggests to me that we are pursuing the German defender on the pre-contract to sign in the summer (sorry forgot his name )

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{Ed002's Note - His name is Matip.}

12 Jan 2016 18:24:05
Thanks Ed.


12 Jan 2016 18:01:12
Slating caulker that would all change if he banged the winner against arsenal! Give the lad a chance who do you's think we are league champions a top 4 side? We are neither beggars can't be choosers he's a lad that's come in to give us a hand because we are belated with Injuries so make him feel at home and u might not regret it!
And for the record I'd rather him at CB then the Instagram king Enrique FACT!
Sorry about the rant eds!

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12 Jan 2016 18:11:17
Using Enrique as a measuring stick is really scraping the bottom of the barrell as many of us posters on here would do better than Enrique. Listen, he may not have been who I wanted BUT he`s here now and we should support him.


12 Jan 2016 18:15:04
Exactly whinging already I'm worried regarding Sturridge and when he's going to kick a ball again for us.


12 Jan 2016 18:18:45
Get things in perspective. This is a QPR player that they don't want and no-one wants to buy. He was loaned out to Southampton and they weren't particulalrly bothered by his recall back to QPR so that he could be loaned to us and Caulker himself couldn't get out fast enough.

Why did we recall iLori and then loan Caulker? That has basically nailed the coffin lid down on iLori and I would be surprised if he didn't ask for a transfer.


12 Jan 2016 18:29:46
Red Lenin lori isn't fit he was f#%#%d after 60mins playin EXETER we've no other CB's do U not understand that if lori played again against arsenal he'd be ripped to bits then you'd have non stop slating of the boy! Nobody wanted caulker that's clear but looks like we've no choice if caulker fails it's only a loan end of!


12 Jan 2016 18:46:19
It's a loan that serves no purpose other than panic.


12 Jan 2016 19:08:04
No it's a loan that at the very least provides cover.

Ilori could not manage 2 games in 5 days.

We barely have a free midweek between now and the end of the season depending on FA cup and Europa.


12 Jan 2016 19:10:46
Ilori was shattered I no there's nothing like playing 90 mins but he ain't the messiah he should have been fighting fit and easily lasted 90 mins.


12 Jan 2016 19:39:40
RL it maybe is a panic but so wat we've NO other CB'S it's a stop gap so it is a loan that will serve a purpose till we've fit CB's but get behind the lad I'd love nothing better but for him to prove us all wrong it's the January transfer window only once in a blue moon u pull a saurez from the bag!


12 Jan 2016 18:00:34
Look at it this way lads:

Every single player who has performed excellently when playing against us, and we went on to buy them, has actually turned out not succesful.
If this statistic is anything to go by, Caulker is going to be our MotM tomorrow!
Now that's something i'm willing to look forward to and will probably bet a fiver on him to score a goal too!

Welcome to Liverpool Steven!

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12 Jan 2016 18:37:37
hahahahahaha well said mate, well said. Brilliant observation! (Y)


12 Jan 2016 17:53:16
Caulker obviously impressed in our League cup clash with Southampton. In all seriousness, I'm completely ambivalent towards this signing. Seems pointless with Klopp himself suggesting that we are nearing the end of our injury crisis. Nevertheless the signing does not warrant the animosity with which it has been met as it carries very little risk for the club considering we are short at this moment in time and we cannot foresee any future injuries we may sustain.

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12 Jan 2016 17:50:20
Any update on Markoviks loan? Did you hear any rum ours of a recall Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

12 Jan 2016 17:47:29
Why are folks up in arms about Caulker? He's not kicked a ball for the club. Ridiculous lads, give the guy a chance. He's been loaned for cover and that's all. He has PL experience and would do just as good a job as Toure and who knows he might flourish under Klipperty.
For me I know the lad was knackered but Ilori looked beaten after 60 mins. He needs time and hasn't had much in the way of competitive action this season or much less last. This season is not about top 4 it's about maybe a cup and top 6 for me. Few additions in the summer and we'll be up there next season. It wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't get Europa League but the revenue always helps.
Batten down the hatches it's going to be a bumpy ride in. 😜.

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12 Jan 2016 18:53:04
Jimplelfc2005, fair point mate that caulker hasn't kicked a ball for us yet and doesn't deserve the criticism for playing for us. But on the other hand you seem to have judged Ilori in 60 minutes. By your own admission he hasn't had competitive game experience. So how does he get it? By letting a championship defender (not good enough for his own team and then not good enough for a premier league side) take his position? Ilori has probably been the same in the sense that he wasn't considered good enough by the teams he was loaned to but he already is our player. I'm all in for the bumpy ride and think you're being reasonable in your target of top 6 and a cup would be great. But to me it'd make much more sense to play OUR OWN and help them develop than too loan-in and develop others. I'm not against Caulker in here. I am against our transfer policy.


12 Jan 2016 17:30:05
Just got home from work and first thing I do everyday is check what everyone is talking about on here, and the first 10 odd posts are people slating a Liverpool player who has yet kicked a ball! Yer i admit I was very shocked but when you stop and think for a bit I do see what Koop is trying to do and that is to clear balls in the air which for seasons now we have struggled to do as we never cut out the crosses, I'm glad it's for the short term as caulker is not the answer for future but as we have no decent centre back to cover at the moment and rather risk injury to the others by pushing them back sooner and getting more injuries I think this could work out. Klopp is still assessing what he has to work with and we will have to wait till the summer to see what he thinks of the squad and who stays and who goes, I would rather a loan signing than a permanant panic buy as obviously klopps targets are not available at this time. Let's get behind caulker rather than slag him off and support him till the end of the season you never know he might surprise a few people including me! Remember he is only short term and I would rather have him there than Lucas as he does not often loose out in the air! And sakho back to cover with his pace could be a good combination! sorry for the rant just wanted to post as all I can see is negative posts! We are Liverpool supporters so get behind the Liverpool players. God forbid if our players actually looked at this site as it gets embarrassing sometimes! YNWA.

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12 Jan 2016 17:36:44
Well said. Everyone expects them to give their all for the shirt, club and fans but they in turn have the right to a little support. Sadly, some on here wouldn't know support if it slapped them in the face. Nowadays it's just put down to being entitled to an opinion rather than being seen for what it is. bad form.

Bring on the abuse.


12 Jan 2016 17:52:55
Don't get me wrong he is not my cuppa tea but he has premier league experience likes a scrap and hopefully in a few weeks time we are posting about a good job he has done whilst covering for our injured team, remember 80% of people on here wanted Lovren gone! Now he has upped his game and looking in good form. All I want is a partner ship at the back that lasts and works who ever it might be, hyypia was great in the air and organised everyone and henchoz listened covered and we had a great partnership which I bet people didn't think would happen before they kicked a ball! Support that's all I ask! It's a team game.


12 Jan 2016 18:13:22
He may not be who I would have wanted and I have made that clear BUT we should support him because he`s an LFC player, end of. The slaters should give it a rest, really.


12 Jan 2016 16:21:27
Eds I have seen us linked with Lorient full back Guerrario, are we looking for a deal?

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{Ed002's Note - Check the spelling & try the search engine.}

12 Jan 2016 17:07:44
Twitter suggesting caulker not fit for Arsenal game after feeling his hamstring. Has to be a joke.

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12 Jan 2016 17:06:51
I've just read Jurgens interview regarding the Caulker signing and at the end he seems to properly have the hump about the fixtures. I'm confused here - surely a manager at that level expects a lot of games? Its no secret so why the surprise? I really enjoy his honesty but it shocks me a little that he didn't do any research or even look at our fixture list at the time of taking the job?

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12 Jan 2016 17:46:11
I doubt he didn't do any research, but it's a very different situation to be right in the middle of it. I think we should have a winter break, personally.


12 Jan 2016 18:22:59
If we have a winter break, that means we have to make the season longer and it won't finish until late May/ early June. Which then reduces the players summer break, whch means they start they don't start following season fully rested.

Apart from which we don't really get a winter here. Go and live in Germany or Poland or Russia or the Balkans - you'll find out what winter means.


{Ed002's Note - The FA would welcome it as they would reducing the league to 16 teams which is what it would take. Some clubs would be four that but many would be against. Eventually the breakaway of some clubs will result in a restructuring in any case. Give it 10 or 12 years.}

12 Jan 2016 16:35:20
Ok my attempt to distract from the Caulker commotion:

Ive heard some posters suggest that all our academy cbs are injured or not ready (Cleary = injured, Jones = not good enough, etc) . Can anyone summarize the CBs in the academy and where they stand? How they're getting on/ thought of? If they could be ready to be given a shot or why not (injury, too young etc. ) .

Thanks in advance for the info (and hopefully the distraction from all the Caulker complaints! )!

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12 Jan 2016 15:49:25
I reckon one of our scouts has a season ticket at Southampton you know.

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12 Jan 2016 16:41:23
I reckon the same guy has shares in Southampton!


12 Jan 2016 16:46:01
We'll be signing Matt Le Tissier next!


12 Jan 2016 16:54:29
Think Rodgers is our scout that's why you don't hear of him anymore!


12 Jan 2016 16:46:01
We'll be signing Matt Le Tissier next!


12 Jan 2016 16:54:29
Think Rodgers is our scout that's why you don't hear of him anymore!


12 Jan 2016 15:26:43
People here thinks Someone who had not even kicked ball for LFC prior to Exeter game to be our defensive solution while someone experienced as Caulker not our standard defender. Ironic.

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12 Jan 2016 15:49:54
Don't see why anyone has a problem with it.
We'll stuff Arsenal with or without Caulker.


12 Jan 2016 16:21:11
Not much point in starting a new thread for this but do any of the eds or posters know if there is literally not one centre back at lfc youth level that's fit?

I mean in the sense that we already played a youth team in the cup and they could do the same in the replay. Just seems a bit odd.


12 Jan 2016 16:26:41
If I'm being honest he'd have a million times better than Enrique at centre back against Exeter.


12 Jan 2016 16:38:44
I guess you will see Caulker in the team tomorrow night and that says it all really. Far from ideal but it is what it is. We are stuggling at this moment with injuries.


12 Jan 2016 19:04:40
I don't think its fair on Ilori to be criticized after one game, playing for a team with no chemistry. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know half of their names. Mind you, I never understood the hype around "the messiah" as some like calling him in here, but let's be fair. Caulker too had a crap game against us. Should it not then be a reason enough to not sign him? If the bar to judge Ilori is one game, then it should be the same for him, isn't it? I think the injury crisis is being made a big deal of. Sakho and Toure are fit and lovren will be soon enough. If we were fighting for the league and we were looking to loan in a Ramos or Boateng (spelling) then it would make some sense. But if its an average outside player versus an average Liverpool player, to help us finish 'as high as possible', I know who I'd pick. Nothing against Caulker or for Ilori. Just don't understand the psychology behind our transfer ins and outs.


12 Jan 2016 17:01:51
Npone thinks ilori is our saviour. What we see is a talented boy who we Brought I for 7 million, who we want to see what he's about.

He needs at least 1/ 2 seasons of full football (injury free) for his development with us, its a looking road but what you could end up with is a very good defender! Stones still has shockers.

These are the signings Brendan was destroyed for. Basically caulker has come in to block the path of ilori, is that fair? Does he not deserve a few games.

Caulker compared to his isn't much better, you claim prem experience but its more relelgatiom experience. He has gone down twice.

If it was between caulker and iloti for a few weeks whilst lovren and sakhi get fitter then we should of gone with him.

Klopp has the luxury of being allowed a free pass on something that is a stupid move and one that would of been criticed and most probably was 8 months ago.


12 Jan 2016 17:01:51
Npone thinks ilori is our saviour. What we see is a talented boy who we Brought I for 7 million, who we want to see what he's about.

He needs at least 1/ 2 seasons of full football (injury free) for his development with us, its a looking road but what you could end up with is a very good defender! Stones still has shockers.

These are the signings Brendan was destroyed for. Basically caulker has come in to block the path of ilori, is that fair? Does he not deserve a few games.

Caulker compared to his isn't much better, you claim prem experience but its more relelgatiom experience. He has gone down twice.

If it was between caulker and iloti for a few weeks whilst lovren and sakhi get fitter then we should of gone with him.

Klopp has the luxury of being allowed a free pass on something that is a stupid move and one that would of been criticed and most probably was 8 months ago.


12 Jan 2016 15:19:32
See caulker is getting bashed before even pulling on a shirt. never met a bunch of "fans" like it. embarrassing, give the lad a chance!

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{Ed023's Note - I agree}

12 Jan 2016 15:46:32
It makes me feel ashamed to be associated with the club to be honest. Everyone deserves a chance. If after a couple of games it doesn't look great, fine chip in constructively but this 'the clubs transfer policy is embarrassing' talk. Maybe the embarrassment is closer to home. Fans have pushed and pushed and pushed for transfers, big name signings, contracts executed to the point where the club is in a difficult situation financially. I'm not saying that's the fans fault fully but the added pressure has definitely not helped.

Big changes will happen in the summer CLEARLY. A time when prices aren't hugely inflated and the impulsive nature of business is more relaxed. We have a top top manager with bags of drawing power for potential signings, bright looking youth, a great revenue enhancement with the stadium and naming rights. For God sake give the manager time to sort out the shocking mess Rodgers left us in.


12 Jan 2016 16:14:01
At least we all know nothing's changed lol.


12 Jan 2016 16:25:48
Remember how bad Caulker was for Saints against Liverpool in the cup. if Ed Milliband had his picture taken in a Saints shirt I'm sure you'd try to buy him as well!
The transformation into Liverhampton is still ongoing.


12 Jan 2016 16:27:52
Wheras I don't think it's fair to write him off without playing a game, I do have nightmares of his performance against us in the capital one cup.


12 Jan 2016 16:36:32
Ai we've pushed and pushed for big transfers smallsy, i'm sure we all pushed for half the squad that clown has left us with,
If any of us were pushing for big name signings then I can guarantee that these were not them, To think we used to moan about the likes of Riise and Baros, i'd take them right now,
I hope your right and he does get to sort this mess out, it needs it.


12 Jan 2016 17:13:49
Dam right boys give the lad a chance with a quality coach and you never know. Sick to death of all these whinging posts. Ruining this site and embarrassing to be associated with these people. If I was the ed I'd just ban them and get back to what this was when he started out.

This manager has my total support and it don't take a rocket scientist to work out we need cover in the defence. So good work.


12 Jan 2016 17:41:44
Well said Smallsie and Alfie. It's a wonder anyone signs for us nowadays.


12 Jan 2016 14:59:04
Ed002, i figured you'd be excited by this signing. There's usually support from one part-time rodeo clown to another :) . All joking aside I think we could've done worse.

Are you ever going to do a podcast by the way? You can use one of those crazy voice manipulators to keep the pages guessing as to whether you are a male or female. Lol.

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{Ed002's Note - (a) I am sure that the club could have done worse - perhaps this simply says that Klipperty has no confidence in the youngsters from the U21s nor Ilori. (2) I was going to do a podcast but sadly I was unable to meet certain demands made of me - so that is now off the agenda.}

12 Jan 2016 15:21:18
Podcast: "Why Caulker? " Starring Ed002 as Bane.


12 Jan 2016 15:26:24
ed002 i haven't manage to get the time for the past 2 or 3 of the last podcast with benny and ed001, bt ill go out of my way and find the time to listen to your first podcast, if that ever happens mate.

oh and that is not to say there's anything wrong with benny and ed001s podcast, the ones i managed to listen to has been great.


{Ed002's Note - Thanks K but I suspect it won't.}

12 Jan 2016 15:22:40
The better CBs from the U-21s are also injured. It's not a positive move for Ilori though, agreed.


12 Jan 2016 16:30:14
I would say it's not so much an adverse inference on Ilori but on the fact that Klopp doesn't want to rely upon Enrique.


12 Jan 2016 16:37:20
Looking at how bad llori's fitness is I expect he thinks it too much to expect him to play every week so he's gone for a guy with premiership experience who is easily available at relatively low cost. Makes sense to me given he probably doubts Toure or llori can finish 90 minutes at the moment.


12 Jan 2016 14:53:43
I hope this isn't another case of the committee getting in who they want regardless, I know we're a little restricted due to a bloated squad and wages etc but this lads wages aren't cheap, ok ok we need cover but Caulker? i'm sulking.

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12 Jan 2016 15:27:49
just to let to you know, both brendan in the past and now klopp is involved in our transfer committee.

assuming you don't know it yet.


12 Jan 2016 15:48:18
I know a sight more than you think, and if any of the rose tinted gang think this is good business considering his wages etc are large then they are mistaken,
Some of you lot would support any nonsense thrown on the pitch, me i'm a realist, even on loan he's a poor choice, end of.


12 Jan 2016 14:51:17
Seems as tho we had a 30% clause in the shelvey deal meaning we will make 3.6 mil from his move to newcastle.

JD.

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12 Jan 2016 17:07:00
Lovely jubly. let's hope he stood improving and doesn't go for 30 mil next year, as we've lost our clause now lol

All the best shelvey lad. Really think they have got themselves a cracking partnership in the talented saivet and voldermort!


12 Jan 2016 17:07:00
Lovely jubly. let's hope he stood improving and doesn't go for 30 mil next year, as we've lost our clause now lol

All the best shelvey lad. Really think they have got themselves a cracking partnership in the talented saivet and voldermort!


News Round Up As Liverpool Make A Signing And Leicester Rule Them Out

12 Jan 2016 14:56:17
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, News Round Up As Liverpool Make A Signing And Leicester Rule Them Out

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12 Jan 2016 14:53:33
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, News Round Up As Liverpool Make A Signing And Leicester Rule Them Out

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12 Jan 2016 14:32:09
I see what your saying ed, he has prem experiance so I got faith especially as it's our man klopp pulling the strings of signings. Besides in a few weeks we will have the others back (I know they aren't great) . But I'd rather klopp make his main signings in the summer and get them training and playing the way he wants etc rather than rushing them straight into the squad. I just the caulker might just work out ok for the time being.

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12 Jan 2016 14:43:50
He was with QPR and they got relegated. He was with Southampton and we demolished them. Anyone else see a link?


12 Jan 2016 15:02:22
Both clubs wear stripey shirts and reside in the South of England?


12 Jan 2016 15:22:25
Correction EMS

one where's a "hoopy" shirt.


12 Jan 2016 15:39:26
Bah, hoops is just a fancy word for horizontal stripes ;)


12 Jan 2016 16:25:58
Stripes have a start and finish or a top and bottom, hoops being circular don't! Its like sayinga square is a rectangle as they both have four sides. Lol.


12 Jan 2016 16:32:56
He played for Spurs, they finished 4th,5th,4th and 5th over 4 seasons.


{Ed001's Note - considering he only made 29 appearances in total for Spurs, not sure how much credit he can take for that Ron.}

12 Jan 2016 17:28:34
I agree we but I don't think it's as simple as saying the clubs he's played for have been poor so he's poor.
I was just counter balancing the point.

I don't think he's a good player, but he'll do on loan until Kloppo has identified his number 1 targets for the summer.


{Ed001's Note - just had to point it out is all mate, I was actually surprised he had played that often as he wasn't particularly rated there either.}

12 Jan 2016 14:27:53
breaking rumour-Steven Caulker has apparently injured his hamstring when standing up from his seat after signing the contract.

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12 Jan 2016 15:25:55
We could have someone lined up for the summer, and maybe we could not find anyone better on a stopgap loan until then. So its not that crazy even though he is not that great.


12 Jan 2016 14:11:05
For everyone who's getting so upset about Caulker, don't. Rodgers had a compulsion to sign player after player (needed or not) and spend endless money, Klopp has already indicated he won't do that and has a track record of being clever in the market. Not every signing has to be a world star or even a first XI starter, this is clearly the case of plugging a hole. Subotic, Matip, Caceres etc.!? Not one of them are world class (Subotic isn't! ) so why bring them in on megabucks and with an over inflated price now? Maybe, just maybe, Klopp is taking a measured approach and waiting for the summer? I read a lot about people saying this season is a write-off and that we should wait - those same people that are now screaming about the Caulker deal. Relax. and discuss.

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{Ed001's Note - Caulker is on a higher wage than Subotic....}

12 Jan 2016 14:14:54
At Ed001 at least it's only until June, unlike Mario and co that are worthless but still on the books.


12 Jan 2016 14:22:18
But doesn't subotic want a permanent deal ed? So maybe he is just plugging a gap until better players are available in the summer like you and ed002 have said countless times, it's difficult to sign quality in January.


{Ed001's Note - yes he wants a permanent deal, but he has not got one yet or he would have taken it. This just smacks of desperation, which is a poor way to run a business.}

12 Jan 2016 14:37:33
I don't see desperation Ed. The past two summers have been desperation. Just spend spend spend. This loan move is a cheaper alternative than outright buying someone for inflated January prices. I'm not over the moon about the signing I'm just saying this was a low risk signing. If he impresses then he could get a contract as a Toure replacement in the summer. If not, then he goes.


{Ed001's Note - it is desperation as we already have centre backs. Signing one on big wages for a short term fix is not a cheaper alternative, if this is how we put together a squad, it will cost us a lot more.}

12 Jan 2016 14:59:10
I agree ed, I think it is an awful signing but I was just replying to the original post regarding Subotic, who I also would rather wait until the summer if he was all that was available. (unless he was a loan) .


12 Jan 2016 15:00:04
I'd say at this point we are a little desperate though. Caulker is Caulker, but he's also not Enrique.


12 Jan 2016 15:11:56
Enrique is the lowest of lowest of bars to use to judge a player. Having said that, How in the the heck did this happen and what "genius" sanctioned such a horrific deal? The guy is pants. Will incompetence never leave this club alone?


12 Jan 2016 15:19:34
Hes awful, and NOT who i envisaged coming in, not even on loan or as cover, i'm interested to hear what Klopp says about it.


{Ed023's Note - What do you expect him to say? Steven who? He's awful, it's Ian Ayre's fault, I wanted someone else.. Klopp is involved in this process.

Klopp probably thinks Caulker would be a good fit for 6 months. After all Klopp has changed everyone's opinion on Lovren so where's the proof he can't do the same with Caulker?}

12 Jan 2016 15:19:21
Ed001 - Couple of questions. 1) Do you not think Subotic would demand much higher wages to play in the Prem? 2) Panic? It's a loan and January 12th. Surely if it was a panic we'd be looking at, oh I don't know, £10-20million plus £80-100k+ for a player who's currently bench-warming?
A point. I'm a little surprised, aren't you a flag bearer for giving English players and old English coaches from the lower leagues a go/ 48th chance? ;)


{Ed001's Note - 1) No he wasn't, he just wanted to wait and see if a permanent deal would come in.
2) Exactly, so why do it now? Why not wait and look around? Instead we went and got an unwanted player, one who couldn't even make the bench, and are paying those kind of wages plus a loan fee, with no chance of getting any return from it.
I have no interest in what country a player is from, I don't know where you got that nonsense from. What I want is us to stop wasting money on crap and utilise the youth we have.}

12 Jan 2016 17:07:39
Agree 100% on the youth - and apologies, was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment. I've not posted before but I'm assuming you have to put up with a lot of bulls*&t on here. You're clearly very knowledgeable so can we change path? My question to you would be, what would you see as a succesful transfer window? For me, I don't believe we should be spending at all (unless a top class keeper comes available, which he won't) and then come summer we shift the 'expensive average' Milner, Mignolet, Benteke, Skrtl and poss Moreno (Smith already looks ready to me), and go again then. I'm sure we'll get an upgrade on players under Klopp v Rodgers, no need throw bad money at bad in January - present Caulker accepted.
P. S. Subotic definitely wants and deserves more than £40k in this market ;)


{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I am extremely tired today, so probably a bit grumpy, recording the podcast meant a late night. I thought a successful transfer window would be recalling the youth and giving them a chance. I don't see the need to bring anyone in myself. This was a season to assess and prepare for the summer window. Personally I didn't want Subotic either.}

12 Jan 2016 17:18:52
No problem at all. Haha - funny thing is we seem to agree generally! At least the youth have been recalled - let's see who gets a good go. For me Smith is ready now. Brannagan, Ojo and Kent look like the ones who'd hold their own in select games too.


12 Jan 2016 17:11:11
The point is someone like ilori who one of the yonger cbs should of been given this opportunity as they rarely come about, and see if they could take it as the first team cbs will be back in a month or so and so will the opportunity to get some games

Caulker simply blocks the path of yet another player.

Remember everyone kicking off with markovic over ibe. Pure hypocricy!


12 Jan 2016 17:11:11
The point is someone like ilori who one of the yonger cbs should of been given this opportunity as they rarely come about, and see if they could take it as the first team cbs will be back in a month or so and so will the opportunity to get some games

Caulker simply blocks the path of yet another player.

Remember everyone kicking off with markovic over ibe. Pure hypocricy!


12 Jan 2016 14:05:49
Enough of the negative posts, I think caulker could well be a good signing, he's big strong and fast and with klopp as his coach could well develop him. I seem to remember one of the ed's raving about mitrovic (now at Newcastle) so proves options are not always bang on correct.

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{Ed001's Note - it was not me raving about Mitrovic, nor do I remember any of the eds doing so, but he has begun to play well for Newcastle and is still in his first season. Suarez was nothing special first year. Therein lies the problem, we only have Caulker for a few months, so he has to be good right away, not get going in a year.}

12 Jan 2016 14:38:35
Ed002 never really raved about mitrovic but when we were looking for a striker last summer he suggested the player is one we should be looking at. But weren't.


12 Jan 2016 17:28:36
All that happens with this move are 2 things.

1/ 1 he is outstanding an triples his value, thus causing us to lose out on him have to pay a ludicurous sum.

2/ he flops

Both were options with ilori but here's the catch if he developed well enough. We already own him.


12 Jan 2016 17:28:36
All that happens with this move are 2 things.

1/ 1 he is outstanding an triples his value, thus causing us to lose out on him have to pay a ludicurous sum.

2/ he flops

Both were options with ilori but here's the catch if he developed well enough. We already own him.


12 Jan 2016 14:00:01
Hiya Ed, first timer here. Great work by the way. I've just seen the Caulker loan deal and I think it makes sense that we are not going to panic buy and pay over the odds for a defender, but instead wait for the summer.

I think other transfer deals that would improve our team would be (buy a midfielder) Now Jonjo Shelvey has join NUFC surely Cheick Tiote must be on his way out and he would be a better replace for Allen who must be leaving in the summer. I'm not sure what his fitness is like as he has been on the treatment table for a while.

Striker wise: At present we can't get DS fit enough to play more than 3 games in a role. I would love to see get Javier Hernandez. I seen that there's lots of interest in him from other clubs, He had movement and is a great finisher.

Gk wise; stick with SM and extend his contract so that we can get a better fee for him in the summer when go for long term targets such as Butland etc.

What do think?

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12 Jan 2016 14:16:51
SM as you put it, I hope will be gone and young Ward as number one.


12 Jan 2016 14:45:17
How is Caulker on loan not a panic buy?


12 Jan 2016 15:03:50
"How is Caulker on LOAN not a panic BUY? "

How is my car not a motorbike?


12 Jan 2016 15:26:09
I'm sure you'll be dazzling us with stats about how he's got the 4th highest clearance ratio in his own 18 yard box eh EMS ;)


12 Jan 2016 15:28:35
p. s. I get that a loan is not an actual PURCHASE so allow me to wade through your pedantic comment and state that bringing in Caulker is a decision which smacks of panic, as opposed to any sort of fore thought, business acumen or football nous.


12 Jan 2016 15:42:33
Now now Seano. Don't get touchy :* paint me like one of your french girls.


12 Jan 2016 13:56:12
Steven Caulker is official. Nothing to be upset about. If he's bad, he's going back. If he turn out good, sign him then. Nothing to lose.

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12 Jan 2016 14:57:33
No we're just paying the wages of a guy who played in defence for a team that was relegated. Played in defence for a team when we smacked them 6-1 in their own back yard. It doesn't matter how desperate for players we are, the players we are willing to bring in should still be good enough to improve our 1st eleven. We still have to pay this guys wages until the end of the season. Poor player + panicked buying = bad business.


12 Jan 2016 15:02:06
Cannot think of any reason which would justify the signing of a poor quality player.


12 Jan 2016 15:14:51
I`d rather we played a half fit Ilori or Lucas than a Caulker. The guy is not what we need even if we are desperate.


12 Jan 2016 13:50:50
Mixed feelings about caulker. At times he was good, but mostly quite poor. However, if we have no one fit for the next few games, it's good business in my eyes. Considering it may have been Lucas vs giroud, then caulker is a better option. Same if fellaini played in the United game. He has a point to prove after poor games for the Saints amd let's hope he can have a few decent games for us!

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12 Jan 2016 13:36:40
not quite sure what to make of caulker on loan. I thought our cb injury crisis was easing up unless there may have been a setback to one of our cbs? on paper it does make some sense, he knows the league, is quite good in the air. on the other hand is he any good? I think he looked ok at Swansea and if he only 3rd or 4th choice then might not be too bad of option. I suppose it only a loan and not a loan to buy so again that makes sense. I won't make any judgements just yet tho will wait till end of season, but I got a feeling it may be a mistake bringing him in.

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12 Jan 2016 13:55:13
It's just cover, like eds have said, we won't get anyone else in Jan unless we overpay. Also he is a centre back and won't need to play players out of position to cover.


12 Jan 2016 13:58:34
I think its not a bad solution having a cheap experienced backup for the bench until everyone's fit again, (and at least it means we don't have to use Enrique there! )

Rather this as a cheap bandaid solution than overspending in a panic because our first choices aren't available.


12 Jan 2016 13:28:01
Not quite subotic guys. But it's only a loan so no need to get our nickers in a twist :)

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12 Jan 2016 13:38:55
Let's all get behind the lad guys. Maybe he'll grab this chance with both hands and surprise us all.
Still only 24 .
YNWA.


12 Jan 2016 13:47:25
Good thought Liver. While he has that red shirt on we should give him our support. Might turn out well, who knows? At least he knows the position and has experience, international as well.


12 Jan 2016 15:17:24
As much as i think it`s desperation, if it`s a loan and just for cover then, I`m ok with it. If good we take a chance and sign him. if not, he leaves and no harm done. Who knows? he might suprise us.


12 Jan 2016 13:21:17
Any truth in the rumour flying around Eds that Titus Bramble is next?

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12 Jan 2016 14:48:32
Just genius hahaha.


12 Jan 2016 13:11:12
Caulker? Oh dear - If Brendan made this move there would be a hanging party on here right now! Surely not.

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12 Jan 2016 13:18:26
Oh my, didn't Calke play in the 6-1 drubbing of Southampton?


12 Jan 2016 13:23:51
I think you're right. However I also think Rodgers would've signed him for £15m and then made him look bad by putting him next to Skrtel.

At least it's only a loan. If he does turnout to be terrible there is no long term damage done. I just hope Jurgen knows what he's doing!


12 Jan 2016 13:29:02
Aye nutmegged few times too.


12 Jan 2016 13:30:50
Settle down. It's a loan move for a guy with proven premier league experience and it seems is hungry to be playing again. He's fairly average but we just need a short term fix. We aren't going to get an amazing CB at short notice on loan. Different being is BR would have paid 15 mil for him and then played Can at centre back instead.


12 Jan 2016 13:31:15
I don't see what all the fuss is about with Caulker. Clearly a short term solution. Is he a better option than Enrique, Ilori, Lucas, Toure? Yes, if you ask me. Who else could we get on a short term loan?


12 Jan 2016 13:05:57
Caulker confirmed loan. Didn't see that one coming. Decent move I think given not much available at the moment.

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12 Jan 2016 13:04:51
breaking rumour . Klopp did not want Pato apparently all he wanted was a Patio for his new house guess he needs more english lessons.

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12 Jan 2016 13:29:25
I think you're onto something here!

Ayre: "Jurgen what do we need to save our season? "

Klopp: "Well Ian, I used to do a lot of my thinking back at Dortmund on my Patio, so I could do with one of those"

Ayre: "Okay Jurgen, Pato. Noted. Anything else? "

Klopp: "Whoever it is you sign for me it will have to be an absolute corker to save our season! "

Ayre: "Pato. Caulker. Consider it done! "


12 Jan 2016 13:39:01
Class EMS. LMAO at that pal.


12 Jan 2016 15:19:37
Nice one, EMS.


12 Jan 2016 12:43:24
Hi fellow red men.
Would like to know everyone's opinion on ward. Although I have never seen him play, a lot of people here seem to be excited about him possibly coming in to play first choice.

What I am asking is is he ready to be first choice at liverpool level or could you see him needed more time?

Would very much like to hear everyone's thoughts.

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12 Jan 2016 12:50:53
He looks like a good shot stopper (from clips admittedly)
But we need a keeper who commands his box and bosses the defenders a bit and has great distribution, I have no idea if ward is good or not at this, maybe some posters can help, think I have seen him play once and can't remember what he's like to be honest.


12 Jan 2016 12:56:51
He has Everything required to be a top keeper in terms of ability. Only time will tell if he has the mentality to succeed at the highest level. The Aberdeen players and staff can't speak highly enough of him.


12 Jan 2016 12:58:12
A few discussed this on an earlier thread yesterday I think. If you search you should find it.


12 Jan 2016 12:58:15
he is not ready for first team, and I am sure/ hope the club will protect him until he is ready.
Careful what you wish for in here, few months back most fickle minded on this site wanted Bogdan to replace Mingo, now they don't want him anywhere near the training ground.


12 Jan 2016 13:29:50
Roy - people wanted Bogdan to be given a try. We don't want ANYONE to be an automatic selection, because it's a silly way to live.

How exactly do you protect a player until they are ready. They don't learn until they try! LFC, on the advice/ ravings of people who believe they should 'protect' young players, have managed to 'protect' hundreds of young players right into obscurity over the past 10 years.


12 Jan 2016 13:34:47
Out of curiosity EMS what supporters and coaches have you been speaking to.

On a side note I have to say you're the most knowledgable person on here and your opinion is always correct.


12 Jan 2016 13:53:25
I am regularly in Corby/ Kettering area Taffy and it's basically a mini Scotland here mate. Everyone supports Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, Aberdeen, Inverness etc. They also show a few SPL games in some of the pubs and clubs in Corby. I just follow Dundee Utd to be different haha!

The manager came out and said it publically and one of Aberdeens midfielders said he's the best keeper he's ever played with (and he used to play with David James - if that counts for anything haha) .

On a side note, although you're being sarcastic don't joke about that mate. Enough people on here hate me already without you fanning the flames! Lol.


12 Jan 2016 12:05:37
go on the ed001 or ed002 Dennis Praet we interested in him?

can i have a bit of a background on him.

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

12 Jan 2016 12:58:29
A) Praet is an attacking midfielder.

B) Stop being a Praet, we already have 5 at the club.


12 Jan 2016 16:29:50
if you were't fit i would of took that personally lol.


12 Jan 2016 11:24:34
Was wondering eds,

Where is young center back dan cleary?
I thought he was highly regarded by the club. why isn't he getting a chance now while we are in desperate need for defenders? Also tom brewitt?

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry.}

12 Jan 2016 12:32:09
Cleary is injured I think. No idea on Brewitt.


12 Jan 2016 12:51:14
Cleary is injured. Brewitt isn't rated that highly. Lloyd Jones is injured and flopped on loan, Polgar has just come back from injury and scored the winner against Southampton U21's from a Kent free kick.

(In the same game John Flanagan won a penalty which Harry Wilson converted. Flanno has played a total 120 minutes in the last 3 U21 games so he is getting close to making the bench for the first tewm in my opinion. )


12 Jan 2016 11:21:32
Looking to take my boy on first visit any suggestions on where to get some reasonably priced tickets. Opposition does not matter.

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12 Jan 2016 12:09:06
Exeter fa cup replay buddy, about 20 a ticket. Should hit general sale so no issues getting them and should have a good choice of seats if your booking early. Good luck and hope he enjoys the game he gets to go to.


12 Jan 2016 12:14:57
Tickets very cheap for Exeter replay, ideal opportunity!


12 Jan 2016 12:18:07
Europa League games might be the best bet, sign up for a fan card for both of you, and you will have a better chance.


12 Jan 2016 13:41:01
I've got 4 for Exter £60.


12 Jan 2016 13:46:06
Cheers signed up but only hospitality tickets being advertised for Europa league game. Surely normal seating is sold. Ah help lol.


12 Jan 2016 11:12:59
Eds,

This may sound like a silly question, maybe it is.

But going back to the previous regime in regards to transfers; is anyone ever made accountable for signing made and also signings missed out on?

The reason I ask is I see del alli has just signed long term contract. In most other jobs worker performance is watched, however some decisions made by our transfer committee really begger belief.

Regards

Niallo.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

12 Jan 2016 11:12:51
Hi Eds, is it a fact that Ilori's future is elsewhere? Ed002 seemed quite matter of fact in a prev response.

So is it inside info you have based on how player has been treated at Liverpool or lack of ambition from the player etc and LFC see him as not good enough? Or has his agent been sounding out clubs?

I'm just speculating so wondered what made you so sure. I have no idea how good he is and don't view him as a messiah rather more as a mistake for all concerned as it stands.

Would like to see him make it with us so we don't need to spend but this seems now unlikely from Eds response. I have a tissue at hand should he indeed leave at the end of the season ;-)

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{Ed002's Note - You will need to remind me of exactly what I wrote in order to get a reply.}

12 Jan 2016 11:31:34
Hes not that good we paid well over the odds for the lad.


12 Jan 2016 12:05:56
"They have taken Ilori back from a loan, and whilst he remains the Messiah to some his future will be elsewhere. "

I'm not questioning your knowledge/ opinion Ed and am grateful for your update just wondered if there was a reason I wasn't aware of as to why his future was elsewhere or if it was your opinion based on the circumstances we are all aware of?


{Ed002's Note - In more than two years a Liverpool owned player he has made one appearance in a cup game against League 2 opposition. He has been sent on three separate loans that has seen him only play a handful of games in that two year period. In half a season at the EPLs bottom club he was not deemed suitable to make a single appearance. Now it seems (although I cannot confirm it) the manager is scraping the bottom of the barrel to bring in Caulker on loan - a player on loan at Southampton where his appearances in half a season can be counted on one hand. You see where this is going .....}

12 Jan 2016 12:36:12
Cheers Ed understand your logic there totally.


12 Jan 2016 11:04:32
Eds: Do you foresee any restructuring/ removal of the current hierarchy (TC and Ayre), come this summer?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know who "TC" is but there is no plan to replace the CEO.}

12 Jan 2016 12:35:06
I believe he lives in Hoagy's Alley Ed, hangs around with Benny the Ball, Spook, Fancy- Fancy, Choo-Choo and Brain. And if anyone removes him from his position it'll be Officer Dibble.


{Ed002's Note - As an aside we got a 3D movie of Top Cat - awful. I think it was made in Mexico.}

12 Jan 2016 13:14:12
Only close friends get to call him TC.


11 Jan 2016 18:37:39
Hey guys, we are trialling a Facebook page for the rumours sites. Somewhere we can alert people of major breaking stories, as well as links to our podcasts and Ed001's articles.
If you could like and share it would be much appreciated as i have a bet with Ed001 on how many likes it will get!

Football Rumours on FB

Also if anyone has some clip art skills, and would like to design the cover / profile photo, that would be awesome.
cheers lads.

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12 Jan 2016 11:31:32
Not on Facebook but will tell all my friends to check it out 👍.


12 Jan 2016 12:24:54
If looking for it.

Football-rumours

The dash makes it hard to find. 👌.


12 Jan 2016 11:05:41
New podcast is up where Benny Baller and Ed001 discuss the FA Cup matches and Ballon D'or


Podcast 11

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12 Jan 2016 10:31:50
Hi eds,

Who has been your favourite LFC player (s) in the last ten years, since the benitez era? Someone who was bought by Benitez or a manager after him?

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{Ed001's Note - favourite would be Lucas, it would have been Carragher but for him taking Sly's money, that sent him down a bit in my estimation it much be said. Different if he was in need of cash, but he is a wealthy man.}

12 Jan 2016 11:00:01
Totally agree about Lucas. He got some sad abuse and yet never bad mouthed the club and yet he still has some fans on his back.


12 Jan 2016 11:05:33
Dirk Kuyt.


12 Jan 2016 11:05:57
1. Kuyt
2. Agger
3. Lucas.


12 Jan 2016 11:53:33
It's got to be traore surely

Mine would be
Alonso
Agger
Lucas.


12 Jan 2016 11:43:22
Sø difficult, but as a dane, it for to be Agger. I think he is national treasure. I felt his pain everytime he was injured or left out. But Xabi, Luis Garcia, Lucas and Kuyt where really special too. Hyypia and Carra, although not sig med by Rafa was ikke the perfecti center back pair for me. Loved them to bits.


12 Jan 2016 10:58:59
I assume taking up a coaching role somewhere- possibly Liverpool- would have been an alternative to Sky punditry?


{Ed001's Note - yes mate, or another punditry role, or doing public appearances or anything really.}

12 Jan 2016 10:59:03
Why did working for sky make him go down in your estimation eds?


{Ed001's Note - because Sly are a Rupert Murdoch company.}

12 Jan 2016 12:02:53
1.Alonso
2. Lucas
3. Kuyt.


12 Jan 2016 12:30:14
1. Henderson - Without a scouse hero he's the closest thing to embodying the club.
2. Garcia - Would never set the world alight but scored special goals.
3. Kuyt - No player worked harder for Liverpool than he has.

(P. S. Barry, I don't think anyone abuses Lucas, they just debate whether he's top tier or not) .


12 Jan 2016 12:23:29
Alonso
Torres
Sakho

Don't blame Torres for leaving we were a mess.

I love the way Sakho plays at centreback, he's exciting and confident but his off the field ambassador role and how seriously he takes it is great to see.


12 Jan 2016 12:19:44
Topboy, aside from writing articles for the S*n there isn't much Carragher could've done that would be worse than working for Sky.


12 Jan 2016 12:33:59
But a lot of it was borderline abuse, just saying.


12 Jan 2016 15:30:08
Alonso has to be the best signing made by Benitez, the man is a genius on the ball! Easily my favourite player to watch, him Mascherano and Gerrard in midfield were phenomenal, if we weren't in such a shoddy financial state at the time I think they would have won us a title. Torres also deserves a mention, his first seasons were just effortless.


{Ed001's Note - he said favourite, or I would have said Alonso too. Alonso has been the best player in recent years.}

12 Jan 2016 10:35:37
Hi Eds or any fellow Reds,

Does anyone know how Yesil is getting on now and if the club still have high hopes for him?

He was signed with great promise and had awful luck with injuries. I was wondering if he is doing well now and if the club still harbour high hopes for him.

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Whilst his agent is keen to move Samid Yesil on I understand that the player will return to be assessed at the start of the new term. I am going to take a shot and say I expect he will move on as otherwise he will be taking up a squad place.}

12 Jan 2016 13:22:08
Thanks Ed, always appreciated.


12 Jan 2016 09:43:40
Hi Eds - Great Knowledge and work as always!

Quick Question. now that Ward has returned from his loan spell would he be eligible for the replay against Exeter due to him not being registered prior to the original tie? I'm hoping we can avoid another run out from Bogdan!

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{Ed002's Note - No TR. Only players eligible for the original tie (plus any who have completed suspension) are able to be picked fore the replay. As such Ward cannot play.}

12 Jan 2016 10:00:46
Ssn reporting we have approached QPR to loan steven caulker till end of season without view to permanent deal.
If i remember rightly he played when we beat southampton in the cup last month? Klopp must have seen something we didnt!

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12 Jan 2016 09:56:20
Hearing lots of stuff today about us looking at Steven Caulker as a short term solution on loan for the rest of the season. What are you me thoughts Eds do you think he could do a job for us or are we better off looking elsewhere?

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{Ed001's Note - he is rubbish, be better off sticking with Enrique, that is why Southampton are booting him out, as they would rather pay off the deal and have no one than keep him.}

12 Jan 2016 10:36:09
Please no. Be a bad move especially now we have iloti back, who I'm convinced given a run of games could prove to be a decent player for us.


12 Jan 2016 09:40:13
Daily mail i think it was are linking us to steven caulker. i'm guessing and praying its wrong.

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12 Jan 2016 10:21:06
No thanks. His career has gone backwards over the last 3 years.


12 Jan 2016 09:18:50
Morning Redmen,

Weekend loan update for you (yes there are still some out on loan)

Danny Wards loan at Aberdeen was cut short on Sunday night as he was recalled to the club to fight for the number one jersey.
Unfortunately his last game for Aberdeen ended in defeat as they lost 1-0 to Hearts in the Scottish cup.

Poor old Luis Alberto was forced to play the full 90 as Real Madrid hit 5 against Deportivo without reply.
Zidane making this management lark look easy.

Although still injured Ballotelli grabbed a few headlines this week when news broke that he used to urinate in the boots of team mates he didn't like!
Heres to hoping him and Sterling didn't get along ;)

Lazor Markovic appears to of nailed down a starting place in recent weeks which is good to see. I haven't checked but I am assuming it is not RWB.
Markovic played for 70 minutes as Fenerbache run out 2-0 winners.

Canos and the rest of the Brentford boys will spend the week hanging their heads in shame as they were knocked out the FA Cup 1-0 to League 1 Walsall.
Canos played the whole game.

Swindon came from 2-0 down to win 4-2 at home to Southend.
At 2-0 down Paul Merson described Swindons performance as the worst defensive display he has ever seen, so good to see them turn it around.
Vigouroux played the full 90.

Wisdom returned from injury this weekend although he is probably wishing he didn't.
Norwich lost 3-0 to City with Wisdom playing the full 90.

And that's your lot redmen

All others were either not used or still on Winter Breaks.

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{Ed023's Note - Thanks}

12 Jan 2016 10:11:27
A brilliant round up Carra.

Brentford and Canos cost me my acca at the weekend.

I don't know about ZZ making management look easy, Mardid thumped vallecano 10-2 and Rafa still got the sack, He'll need to add more goals to ensure his job security :)


12 Jan 2016 10:51:20
I believe it was charlie Nicholas not Paul merson who said that!


{Ed023's Note - It was but does it matter? The lad goes to the trouble of giving us a weekly update on the loan players - a small mistake and it's mentioned here.}

12 Jan 2016 11:05:59
I haven't done an acca bob since Liverpool stopped me winning 3k by drawing at home in the europa 😢.


12 Jan 2016 11:45:04
Clearly not ed026 or whoever who are but hey what's that matter?


{Ed023's Note - Just shows just what you are like saying stuff like Ed026 or whoever and I think I explained initially what the matter was and if you can't see the problem with your originally response then I'm sorry I can't help you}

12 Jan 2016 08:58:53
does anybody know if lfc inserted a sell on clause when they sold jon jo to Swansea? seems he may be on his way to Newcastle for a sizeable sum.

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12 Jan 2016 09:45:04
Liverpool do not put sell on clauses into players we sell, the reason I do not know why. Suarez may go and we could have had another windfall off his back.


12 Jan 2016 07:54:46
Just saw that Enrique won coach of the year; I feel a bit silly now as all i thought he did was go on Instagram - I'd prefer if he actually played rather than coached though ;o)

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12 Jan 2016 07:52:13
With Origi now out for another month (tbh, with a knee surgery, even a minor one, I think a month out is very optimistic), I will be really surprised if Klopp will not buy a striker this transfer window.

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12 Jan 2016 08:03:53
That would be a stupid move mate. Injuries are not a reason to bloat a squad. We have 4 strikers and balotelli to come back meaning if we buy one, we'd have 6 strikers in the summer all on mega bucks. We have firmino, lallana who could fill in as false 9, we have benteke who despite his lack of movement still knows where the back of the net is (I know he's less than ideal) we also have Sinclair if needed.


12 Jan 2016 08:25:56
87Red, I highly doubt Balotelli will be coming back, ever! i'm pretty sure the Ed's said this recently.


12 Jan 2016 08:46:54
Brisbane, we don't want him back but getting rid is a different matter. Do Milan want to keep him? Will anyone pay enough?


12 Jan 2016 09:07:31
87red, Firmino and Lallana as false number 9 are false indeed because they cannot score goals. There is no doubt if we bring anyone now we will have to sell some strikers in the summer but if you don't bring a striker now you are left with one fit striker, who for whatever reason doesn't work with our style of play.

It would be ideal of curse if we can bring someone on loan, though not easy to find.


12 Jan 2016 09:38:34
Well said 87red. We can't sign people to cover injuries or we'll end up with 40+ players.


12 Jan 2016 10:15:01
It's whether it's worth the gamble or not, I currently see us as having no regularly fit strikers. Benteke is injured quite frequently and poor, Studge needs no explanation, Ings is out for the year, Origi is 20,Yesi (I don't know) Balotell isn't returning, sinclair won't do it.

It's a case of do you gamble for fourth for me, an extra striker may be what Klopp thinks he needs. I expect at least 3/ 4 of those strikers at LFC gone this summer.


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12 Jan 2016 06:24:54
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Guardiola Responds To Shearer, Celtic Trio Banned And More News

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11 Jan 2016 19:29:16
Hello ed001,

Your likeness for certain players like medel is well known and you saw them as players who could fit the system and the Liverpool way and what we probably needed at the time you suggested them. They weren't necessarily being linked to us. Do you have any more additions to the list mate? I'd understand if you find this too ambiguous and vague to answer at this busy time for yourself. In any case, thanks for your valuable insight on these pages.

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{Ed001's Note - Sorry this has taken a while, but I wanted to have a proper look around at players who are right for us, and suited for what we need. As I see it, the main issues are keeper and central defence though we could probably do with a striker due to Sturridge's injuries.

Keeper needs to be an older, experienced head, who is willing to face the face that he might only be a back up to Ward and will give him the benefit of his experience, but can still push him for the place. Someone like Julian Speroni, who is experienced and a back up anyway at Palace now with experience of the Prem.

Centre back is needed, while Lovren looks good and Sakho looks good, Skrtel has never been good enough, Toure is physically unable to play regularly enough, so we would be relying on Ilori stepping up. While Gomez, in the long term, should be pushing, right now he will need to be eased back next season, so it needs to be someone who can play now. As we have seen, we do need to buy someone to push the first choice pair. Mustafi has impressed me recently, he has lived in England before, when he was at Everton, so would hopefully adapt quickly as well.

I don't know who I would go for as a striker, as I would really want to wait until the summer, when Benteke can be offloaded and Ings and Sturridge have time to get close to fitness. Buying in January is difficult as very few players coming from outside the league make an immediate impact, even Suarez took time, and we would really be looking for that. Inside the league, there is not really any attainable forward that I would go for.}

12 Jan 2016 07:01:18
How about some players who can provide width?


{Ed001's Note - you mean such as Kent, Ojo, Ibe, Smith, Moreno?}

12 Jan 2016 07:56:15
true, true, I just wanted to get your opinion on that.


{Ed001's Note - I just don't see it as a priority right now. Maybe in the summer, but right now no.}

12 Jan 2016 07:56:16
Ed do you expect Benteke to go in the summer?


{Ed001's Note - if we can find a taker for him, yes.}

12 Jan 2016 08:06:32
I understand we do not talk money on here but how much of a loss do you think we will take on Benteke. Taking away all agents fees etc, just going on the transfer fee. Also, do you know of any teams with a long term interest in him?


{Ed001's Note - no idea, and there is very little interest in him from England. I know Atletico Madrid were a while back, but I doubt Simeone would want him now. I really don't know of any other interest.}

12 Jan 2016 08:19:45
Thanks Ed hopefully we will find a taker for him but we'll have to take a big hit on him.


12 Jan 2016 08:42:09
Hey ed, have people from the club told you that Klopp wants Benteke to leave, or is it just how you see the situation based on his performances and what Klopp said in the media?


{Ed001's Note - both.}

12 Jan 2016 09:06:00
Ed you also mention back up to ward, maybe i'm wrong but does this presume mignolet is on his way out, i thought he was negotiating a new contract.


{Ed001's Note - most teams run with 3 first team keepers.}

12 Jan 2016 10:01:40
Ed001 you mention Suarez in your recent reply and I know ed002 has recently said that he could be on the move as Barcelona might listen to offers could you envisage us going for him if we could off load a few players like benteke possibly lallana and few others or would we never want him back or be able to afford him with our stupid amount of debt or would he just not be interested.


{Ed001's Note - no I don't see that ever happening.}

12 Jan 2016 10:56:37
What would obstruct a Liverpool move for Suarez? Cost, behaviour fears, or both?


{Ed002's Note - No interest, no money.}

12 Jan 2016 11:11:59
Many thanks for the reply ed. I'll look out for mustafi. The injury list we have is quite overbearing and we cannot help but patiently wait it out. But the goalkeeping conundrum is mind boggling. We had a certain pepe reina who was shipped out for these? Transfers can go wrong, yes, but pepe reina on his worst day was light years ahead of mignolet and Bogdan. Unless all Brendan did was checked out mignolet's best saves on yt. Anyway, your opinion is much appreciated ed001. Have a great day!


{Ed002's Note - Just to be clear, whilst a whole bunch of clubs (including two EPL sides) have watched or indeed declared an interest in Mustafi, Liverpool has not.}

12 Jan 2016 00:12:29
Dear Eds,

Is it true that Pato's decline over the last few years is due to his extravagant off pitch lifestyle?

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{Ed001's Note - it is certainly a contributing factor.}

12 Jan 2016 09:07:43
Is that also why he is on loan from corinthians?


{Ed001's Note - yep.}

12 Jan 2016 01:18:18
Reports have changed from pato to berahino. It just keeps getting better :-)

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