Liverpool Banter Archive December 12 2010

 

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12 Dec 2010 23:53:26
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King Kenny has confirmed via Twitter that reports about Roy Hodgson leaving are "malicious rumours".

Very disappointed in Torres, he may be out of form but there is no excuse for being lazy & uninterested, come Fernando the fans love you, you are better than that!

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12 Dec 2010 23:47:32
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Can you just make it clear that you spell it striKer, just it's starting to annoy me.

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12 Dec 2010 23:45:33
So your getting all heated up about a footballer who loves his music? Times are bad when it comes to this. Also, how can he put any passion into playing for Liverpool when he hardly plays? I'm guessing your frustration is more at our all round performances than that of a player that doesn't get on. It's certainly not only the fault of Babel & his love of twitter/ music.

The Irish Rover
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Please tell me you are taking the mick? No, it's not because he loves his music. How can you expect me to talk about my views when you seem to totally ignore some of the points I make? Just do me a favour, read back because I'm not repeating myself, sorry.

And have you ever wondered why he hardly plays? He never played under Rafa, and he never does under Hodgson. Now I doubt Rafa phoned Hodgson and told him not to play him.

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12 Dec 2010 23:38:56
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Would like to hold my hands up and say maybe i have got it wrong about Owen Coyle , i slated him and he is a good manager , i still have caution with him he is 'the man of the moment' the way that Hodgson was when he took Fulham to the final

Danny D from Liverpool

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12 Dec 2010 23:37:36
Torres has just had a kid for godsakes, don't any of you know what type of an affect that can have on people!
Postnatal depression?
waking up in the middle of the night? etc
wife gettin stressed and stress yourselves

Its always the f***in same. when torres scores a brace against chelsea. . oh hes suddenly is the best player in the world, loves the club, never gunna leave, blah blah blah. But if he doesn't score in a couple of games man city will bid for him, hes wants to leave, hes fustrated, blah blah blah. also HE WILL NEVER EVER NEVER JOIN MANCITY.

get over your selves people. he loves it here his family do as well his kids are growing up as scousers and he loves it here. were just going through a bad patch. the manager will go soon. it will be good soon

Harry5:)

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12 Dec 2010 23:36:41
Learn to read kiddo and stop being so petulant. I said on many occassions that footballers are entitled to social lives as they are humans also.

Read EVERYTHING I write and stop being so selective, and maybe we can discuss both of our opinions in a credible fashion.

I do not believe you have the education to discuss opinions in a credible fashion, calling people 'son' and 'kiddo' shows you up for what you are, you are far too sensative and really need to grow up, it's a tough life out there my friend and you are far too delecate for it, i'm putting my daughter to bed now and i think your parents should do the same with you, good night and let's hope nobody calls you any bad names tomorrow at school!
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Diverted away from the topic in hand and brought irrelevant stuff into it? Wonder why?

And I call people "son" and "kiddo" to hit a nerve (banter also), and it seems to have worked.

Anyway, goodnight. My bambinos are already in the sack.

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12 Dec 2010 23:34:38
12 Dec 2010 23:15:29
Maybe Babel should do what most other footballers get up to! Running up thousands in the bookies, banging someone elses wife, getting pissed out of his head then chinning someone in the pub, getting arrested for drunk driving etc etc etc. Then he'd be a real footballer who cares.

The Irish Rover
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Most other footballers get done for drunk driving? Don't be so silly lad.

When do you hear of Torres, Kuyt, Reina, Carragher and co. getting done for drink-driving? Poking someone elses missus?

Like I said, footballers are humans also, and have to have private lives. But it annoys me when a player puts in 0% effort to playing for our great club, and talks only about his rapping and stuff. Fair enough, the guys loves his music, but bloody hell if he put half the passion into playing for us as he does his music he'd get a heck of a lot of credit.

So your getting all heated up about a footballer who loves his music? Times are bad when it comes to this. Also, how can he put any passion into playing for Liverpool when he hardly plays? I'm guessing your frustration is more at our all round performances than that of a player that doesn't get on. It's certainly not only the fault of Babel & his love of twitter/ music.

The Irish Rover

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12 Dec 2010 23:32:51
Lucas Leiva got stick from the fans week after week for his performances. Got all kinds of stick put on his account. What does he do? Roll his socks up, work hard, and prove himself. He's improved so much and I respect him for that.

What does Babel do when his performances and passion are questioned? "That's football, I got issues you don't lose sleep over mine". What issues does he have? Is £40k+ per week too little? Are you struggling to find lyrics for a new rap song?

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12 Dec 2010 23:30:54
Learn to read kiddo and stop being so petulant. I said on many occassions that footballers are entitled to social lives as they are humans also.

Read EVERYTHING I write and stop being so selective, and maybe we can discuss both of our opinions in a credible fashion.

I do not believe you have the education to discuss opinions in a credible fashion, calling people 'son' and 'kiddo' shows you up for what you are, you are far too sensative and really need to grow up, it's a tough life out there my friend and you are far too delecate for it, i'm putting my daughter to bed now and i think your parents should do the same with you, good night and let's hope nobody calls you any bad names tomorrow at school!

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12 Dec 2010 23:30:12
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Just regarding this whole tevez saga. He clearly wants out but from what I read on on bbc website, its more to do with a breakdown in relationships at the club rather than homesickness, though it is also clearly a factor. He may have no desire to play for us at all but we should at least give him the chance to turn us down. He's young, he's talented, he has much more to give and he has premiere league experience. Basically everything our new owners said they were looking for in their targets. We are clearly in need of more than just one player, but if we could get tevez playing with torres upfront then not even roys negative tactics could stop the goals flying in. Infact we'd clearly have the makings of the best strike force in premier league history. He may say no, but please, PLEASE nesv, give him just give him the chance to do so. He could say yes!

Redfish

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12 Dec 2010 23:29:31
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Ed, what do u think of the idea of rebecca ferguson singing ynwa at the next derby vs. Everton? {ed's note - if I had any idea who she was I might be able to give an opinion.}

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12 Dec 2010 23:28:27
Like I said, footballers are humans also, and have to have private lives. But it annoys me when a player puts in 0% effort to playing for our great club, and talks only about his rapping and stuff. Fair enough, the guys loves his music, but bloody hell if he put half the passion into playing for us as he does his music he'd get a heck of a lot of credit.

Gerrard once said that he always stays behind for extra practice, he was also stopped from training by Benitez, he's just not good enough full stop and have a pop over his performances but not for calling someone 'old man' it's bloody rediculous
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Perhaps you should repeat your Key Stage 3 English before you sit you GCSEs. I clarified that it was more the attitude and incentive behind the comments which made me angry. Not the words "old man". Rotten attitude.

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12 Dec 2010 23:24:08
Like I said, footballers are humans also, and have to have private lives. But it annoys me when a player puts in 0% effort to playing for our great club, and talks only about his rapping and stuff. Fair enough, the guys loves his music, but bloody hell if he put half the passion into playing for us as he does his music he'd get a heck of a lot of credit.

Gerrard once said that he always stays behind for extra practice, he was also stopped from training by Benitez, he's just not good enough full stop and have a pop over his performances but not for calling someone 'old man' it's bloody rediculous

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12 Dec 2010 23:22:03
And read his insulting comments to Liverpool fans who question his passion.


'insulting comments' you called me 'son' i would say this is as about as insulting as 'old man' one is saying someone is young the other someone is old, but who the hell gives a f* *, christ mate you must be soft, your certainly not a scouser

Maybe we should buy Barton or Caroll who spend their free time in prison or beating people up, maybe we should stop Gerrard from playing golf.
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Learn to read kiddo and stop being so petulant. I said on many occassions that footballers are entitled to social lives as they are humans also.

Read EVERYTHING I write and stop being so selective, and maybe we can discuss both of our opinions in a credible fashion.

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12 Dec 2010 23:20:24
You're a tad slow son, so I'll explain my anger at what I said. Babel has been crap for us, the fans spend their hard-earned money to help pay his wages, and when he receives much deserved criticism he has the cheek to come out and have a pop at our fans then?

Unprofessional to say the least. His attitude stinks.

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I'm not your son! If the words ''old man'' offend you then you have a dificult life a head of you, i don't rate Babel and will be as happy as anybody when he finaly goes, and it is fair to attack him on his performances on the pitch. But if somebody has a pop at him, is he not aloud to pop back? Come on now 'old man'? IT'S TIME GROW UP, i get called worse by the misses for not taking my shoes of and i don't go on website and cry about it! It's time to be a man don't you think!
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Not the words, its the attitude and incentive. Start reading what I write. And it's not the fact he responded, its the sluggish manner of response. If a fan questions a player's passion, he should say something different instead of "say something else old man" - he should remember we pay his wages every week.

But you must have no sense of what respect and professionalism is.

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12 Dec 2010 23:19:12
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For once i am going to stick up for roy, if the chances had been taking in the spurs, newcastile games, then we would be sitting in a good position from the start we had, the strikers have got to put their hand up for the sitters they mist, still think that torres wants to go, i would do a deal with man city for tevez and a. johnson.+cash in a swap fife red

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12 Dec 2010 23:18:16
And read his insulting comments to Liverpool fans who question his passion.


'insulting comments' you called me 'son' i would say this is as about as insulting as 'old man' one is saying someone is young the other someone is old, but who the hell gives a f***, christ mate you must be soft, your certainly not a scouser

Maybe we should buy Barton or Caroll who spend their free time in prison or beating people up, maybe we should stop Gerrard from playing golf.

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12 Dec 2010 23:15:29
Maybe Babel should do what most other footballers get up to! Running up thousands in the bookies, banging someone elses wife, getting pissed out of his head then chinning someone in the pub, getting arrested for drunk driving etc etc etc. Then he'd be a real footballer who cares.

The Irish Rover
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Most other footballers get done for drunk driving? Don't be so silly lad.

When do you hear of Torres, Kuyt, Reina, Carragher and co. getting done for drink-driving? Poking someone elses missus?

Like I said, footballers are humans also, and have to have private lives. But it annoys me when a player puts in 0% effort to playing for our great club, and talks only about his rapping and stuff. Fair enough, the guys loves his music, but bloody hell if he put half the passion into playing for us as he does his music he'd get a heck of a lot of credit.

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12 Dec 2010 23:10:00
You're a tad slow son, so I'll explain my anger at what I said. Babel has been crap for us, the fans spend their hard-earned money to help pay his wages, and when he receives much deserved criticism he has the cheek to come out and have a pop at our fans then?

Unprofessional to say the least. His attitude stinks.

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I'm not your son! If the words ''old man'' offend you then you have a dificult life a head of you, i don't rate Babel and will be as happy as anybody when he finaly goes, and it is fair to attack him on his performances on the pitch. But if somebody has a pop at him, is he not aloud to pop back? Come on now 'old man'? IT'S TIME GROW UP, i get called worse by the misses for not taking my shoes of and i don't go on website and cry about it! It's time to be a man don't you think!

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12 Dec 2010 23:06:28
And to the lad above, like I said earlier, footballers have private/ social lives also. We can't expect them not to. But all Babel does it talk about his rapping, his passion for rapping, putting his videos up, arranging meet ups with his rapping mates, talking to his mates and all that. And he has the cheek to say "that's football" when questioned. He's on tens of thousands per week, and he does nothing but sit on that damn site. I spend my hard earned money going to watch this kind of garbage, I spend weekends upset and depressed over losing, and that's the attitude a player has when my money helps pay his wages? Too right I'll question his passion. The sooner we sell players like this the better. I spent debate after debate sticking up for Babel and laying into managers for not picking him, and I read his Twitter page, and read his insulting comments to Liverpool fans who question his passion.

Maybe Babel should do what most other footballers get up to! Running up thousands in the bookies, banging someone elses wife, getting pissed out of his head then chinning someone in the pub, getting arrested for drunk driving etc etc etc. Then he'd be a real footballer who cares.

The Irish Rover

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12 Dec 2010 23:02:48
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Why oh why does Torres want to leave. Its clear our club is going backwards and very quickly. For the last few years we have been selling our best players and replacing with rubbish as follows

Riise - Dossenna & now Konchesky
Mascherno - Poulson
Arbeloa - Johnston
Hyypia - Kyriagos
Crouch - Voronin
Keane - Ngog
Alonso - Aqualini
Sissoko - Lucas
Benayoun - Jovanivic

Also when bargains are around such as Adam Johnson £7mill, Milner at the time £10mill we sit on our backsides and do nothing. Torres is like the fans has had enough.

Our problem at the moment is being Liverpool. Supporting and backing the manager when quite clearly a change is required. King Kenny needs to have a word with NESV and sort this mess out.

Honestly the top four is not realistic our away form has seen to that. after that I am not arsed if we finish eighth because the Europa League is garbage.

Let start now get a bright young manager in, new coaching staff with new ideas and start with 2 decent signings in Jan, further 2/ 3 in summer and so on.

Torres is like us reds at the moment great in name only. he is missin chances galore. If he wants to go even City let him.

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12 Dec 2010 23:00:19
Now Babel is argueing with the Liverpool fans on Twitter. He called one "old man" because the guy said if he showed as much passion for LFC as he did rap music he'd earn some respect.

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That's Terrible! Call the police immediately, how dare he used such words as 'old' and 'man' i say lock him up for life, hanging is not enough for such a violent man!

The Sculptor
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You're a tad slow son, so I'll explain my anger at what I said. Babel has been crap for us, the fans spend their hard-earned money to help pay his wages, and when he receives much deserved criticism he has the cheek to come out and have a pop at our fans then?

Unprofessional to say the least. His attitude stinks.

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12 Dec 2010 22:57:24
Now Babel is argueing with the Liverpool fans on Twitter. He called one "old man" because the guy said if he showed as much passion for LFC as he did rap music he'd earn some respect.

Babel is being a little prick to say the least. Can't believe his attitude. Now I understand why Rafa never played him. The sooner he's out the better.

People should get off Babels back! If he wants to be involved with rap let him! If someone said to you something about a passion of yours that you didn't like i bet youd be miffed. {ed's note - I am sorry but you shouldn't be on a site like twitter if you don't have the attitude to take stick. The sad thing is that he has been such a poor player for us that opposition fans are not interested in giving him that stick.}
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I agree with you Ed. And he deserves the stick. A day after a hard defeat and all he can do is sit on Twitter and have a laugh with his mates and talk about his rapping and stuff. All he talks about is rapping and he's constantly on twitter.

And to the lad above, like I said earlier, footballers have private/ social lives also. We can't expect them not to. But all Babel does it talk about his rapping, his passion for rapping, putting his videos up, arranging meet ups with his rapping mates, talking to his mates and all that. And he has the cheek to say "that's football" when questioned. He's on tens of thousands per week, and he does nothing but sit on that damn site. I spend my hard earned money going to watch this kind of garbage, I spend weekends upset and depressed over losing, and that's the attitude a player has when my money helps pay his wages? Too right I'll question his passion. The sooner we sell players like this the better. I spent debate after debate sticking up for Babel and laying into managers for not picking him, and I read his Twitter page, and read his insulting comments to Liverpool fans who question his passion.

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12 Dec 2010 22:54:29
Now Babel is argueing with the Liverpool fans on Twitter. He called one "old man" because the guy said if he showed as much passion for LFC as he did rap music he'd earn some respect.

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That's Terrible! Call the police immediately, how dare he used such words as 'old' and 'man' i say lock him up for life, hanging is not enough for such a violent man!

The Sculptor

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12 Dec 2010 22:40:54
12 Dec 2010 22:31:55
Now Babel is argueing with the Liverpool fans on Twitter. He called one "old man" because the guy said if he showed as much passion for LFC as he did rap music he'd earn some respect.

Babel is being a little prick to say the least. Can't believe his attitude. Now I understand why Rafa never played him. The sooner he's out the better.

People should get off Babels back! If he wants to be involved with rap let him! If someone said to you something about a passion of yours that you didn't like i bet youd be miffed. {ed's note - I am sorry but you shouldn't be on a site like twitter if you don't have the attitude to take stick. The sad thing is that he has been such a poor player for us that opposition fans are not interested in giving him that stick.}

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12 Dec 2010 22:37:31
12 Dec 2010 20:57:57
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I recently signed up to twitter, mainly to communicate with J Henry just to get shot of that chump Hodgson. Ryan Babel is constantly on there wittering on about total billocks, not interested in football or Lpool at all.

To be fair to him, he did have a few rants on football related issues last season & got his knuckles wrapped so he's probably doing the right thing & talking about everything else but football.

The Irish Rover

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12 Dec 2010 22:31:55
Now Babel is argueing with the Liverpool fans on Twitter. He called one "old man" because the guy said if he showed as much passion for LFC as he did rap music he'd earn some respect.

Babel is being a little prick to say the least. Can't believe his attitude. Now I understand why Rafa never played him. The sooner he's out the better.

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12 Dec 2010 22:26:47
I didn't mean just torres, 2 be fair we have 5/ 6 players we should be showing the door, we are all on this site because we care, its ok for blackburn, villa and teams like that to be half way, but a league without lfc not in the top 3 is a bad league

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12 Dec 2010 22:24:02
12 Dec 2010 21:49:43
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I can't believe the rubbish about hodgson leaving. get behind him!

And PUSH HIM OUT THE DOOR!

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12 Dec 2010 22:23:41
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Watched the Spurs match today.
I've gotta say, unfortunately, that both teams are several levels above us at the moment.
Top 5 looks painted on to be honesy.
Regards Torres - I don't know what to think. I've got to admit that he doesn't look interested.
Mind u, in his defence, if the team can't play him in behind Old man Campbell I'm not suprised !
Hope the Jan window improves his outlook.
KB

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12 Dec 2010 22:05:31
To the guy who wrote swap torres 4 adam johnston and tevez, i agree i would do the deal now, the guy who wrote underneath about what sort of fan r u 2 get rid of torres, torres hasnt lost form he, s lost the will 2 play 4 us, he can't be bothered if we had a johnston and teves we would be a much better team even wth hedghod as manager,
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Lost his form, but still a world class player. And do show me exactly where he said he's lost his will to play for LFC? Show me and I'll believe you.

Everyone is just making these assumptions out of the blue. Torres has been injured, he's took time to get fully fit and he's clearly low on confidence. There's a big difference between not wanting to be here and low on confidence.

Torres isn't the only one. Gerrard also, and most of the team. So I don't see why he's being singled out for stick considering he's one of few players who works hard throughout the game.

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12 Dec 2010 22:04:00
Can u all get of roys back he is doing a better job than he did at fulham , he rubs his face when he wakes up in the morning when he as been having a nightmare signed his wife

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12 Dec 2010 21:51:35
12 Dec 2010 21:45:30
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Hi ed i just looked on you tube for some players and see honda OMG he is so good you good you and every one needs to look at him and do you think we can get him and do you no if we want him and eyery one torres going no where he will stay if roy goes thanks

You been under a rock for the past 3 months?

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12 Dec 2010 21:50:50
Cheers Bob.

Macca

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12 Dec 2010 21:50:39
3RD. .These guys are not idiots the roy thing is in hand he'll be gone in the summer and a replacement is already being sought. .even if results get worse unless the right guy is available he'll be here till then. .
Ed what do u reckon?

{Editor's Note: I agree with you.}

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big steve177

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12 Dec 2010 21:49:43
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I can't believe the rubbish about hodgson leaving. get behind him!

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12 Dec 2010 21:49:06
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""12 Dec 2010 18:30:16
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Ah, you see you made it sound like a definite again much like the Gerrard rumour for which you received so much stick. When you explain your source you can see why others might start to mistrust your rumours, especially when you post them in such a definite sounding style. If you say "so-and-so is unhappy" or "there's a rumour that. . " people won't get so irked when they turn out to be untrue.

The final point was referencing your "Gerrard to Madrid - 100% done deal" assertion, which you made back in September, two months after Benitez left.

Which rumour did you think i was talking about?


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The rumour with regards Gerrard was told when Benitez was still there back in May. .I posted that i was told that Torres was going to Man City, check my previous post.

The reason you can never give a definitive answer is that people change there minds, have YOU never done that in your life.

One thing i will put my name to is that Torres will leave Liverpool in Jan or the summer. I can guarantee he is not happy here. .

So you can quote me on that.

The only thing i am not 100 sure off is where he will be playing.

Macca"

I understand your point, but i'm afraid your claim that you posted about Gerrard leaving back in May is only a half-truth at best. You also clearly posted in mid September "Gerrard to Madrid - 100% done deal" (it's in the archives mate). Now you're claiming he only stayed and proved your info to be wrong because Benitez left, however Benitez had already been gone for two months when you posted your "100%" info that Gerrard was going.

Can you see why some would be caution about trusting your guarantees? You received a lot of stick when you stuck your neck out lthat time and were proved wrong. If you are not "100%" then you need to watch how you word things otherwise people will treat your info as being as reliable as paper talk complete with backtracking and reasons why your claims didn't come true (The Mirror - Luke Young didn't join because, Koptalk - we weren't' bought by the Saudis because etc etc)

I don't mean to sound harsh, i'm sure you do have some genuine contacts, but part of giving info is wording it as it has been worded to you (something you did not do in either case, your explanation of your source for the Torres rumour sounds far less definite than your initial claim) and putting your hands up when you're wrong (as with your Gerrard rumour).

Did you receive the Gerrard rumour two months late and that's why you were only getting word that he was leaving (because of Benitez) in mid September? I just don't understand how an assertion that a player is leaving because of a manager who was already employed elsewhere works.

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12 Dec 2010 21:46:52
Macca,

Personally please carry on and bring whatever rumours you hear into the forum. Only true numpty's take what you say literary without the big chance that a multiple of occurences happen to change things.

So whilst i will continue to read what you post with great interest, it is a marker of what may happen rather than what will happen.

Yous appear to be closer than most. I posted a rumour the other summer when my contact on the inside told me 100% true that Dossena had gone in the summer as he had emptied his locker and said his goodbye's.

The deal fell through because of his wage demands. Doesn't mean i was wrong. Circumstances.

So don't be put off by the minority of plonkers on here. Carry on and just for a good laugh throw the odd curve ball in just for the above mentioned plonkers!

Bob the Red

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12 Dec 2010 21:45:30
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Hi ed i just looked on you tube for some players and see honda OMG he is so good you good you and every one needs to look at him and do you think we can get him and do you no if we want him and eyery one torres going no where he will stay if roy goes thanks

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12 Dec 2010 21:43:25
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People need to get of Roy's back, in our last two away performances we have had several chances to but the game beyond doubt.

Torres twice, Maxi against spurs and we lost. Torres once again against Newcastle. So what is the problem at the moment not Roy but with out doubt Torres efforts in front of goal.

To be honest i'd go with Ngog and Babel and cash in on Torres while we can. Bring in Suarez, Mata, Young and Cahill (Bolton) in Jan.

I don't really care if you disagree because I have the freedom of speech. And of course you have right to vote, unless you name is Torres. .

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12 Dec 2010 21:37:36
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Torres swap for Tevez plus 10m?
Unlikley, butwould be great!

E.H LFC

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12 Dec 2010 21:37:04
Just been watching Barca and that tool Mascherano running around like a headless chicken again. Interestingly he is still playing second fiddle to Busquets and cannot get into the team for the 'hard' games.

I don't see him whinging like a girl though. Must be the great weather, the great stadium, the fantastic wages, the rapid tempo and not forgetting the intense competition in La Liga where any one of two teams after the first week could win it and always do.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Lets hope i'm saying this a good few times this season!

1. Hicks
2. Gillett
3. Mascherano
4.? ?? ?

Bob the Red

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12 Dec 2010 21:34:20
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Just joined twitter. Can anyone give me user names of people worth following?

@NotLucasLeiva

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12 Dec 2010 21:27:57
12 Dec 2010 20:48:20
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Just joined twitter. Can anyone give me user names of people worth following?

@spiritofshankly, @kennethdalglish, @lucasleiva87, @footy_10, @empireofthekop, @caughtoffside, @gethno1, @morg_morg, @john_henry, @LuisLFC_03BEEF, @liverpool_newz, i can't think of any more there should be some suggestions tho

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12 Dec 2010 21:25:35
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Torres hasn't been the world class player he was for two years!if he isn't happy get rid and get someone that will fight for us every time they put the red shirt on, not just when they feel like.sell him while we still can get a good price for him.

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12 Dec 2010 21:24:47
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Like most people on this website I tend to think Roy is possibly out of his depth in managing our great club with ref to fan expectation and our great history.
The last word history sums up were we are , that being not the great club we once were ref lack of player / / squad strength we are relying on a few players who are at the top end of the recognised lfc player status carrying a lot of players who are not quite good enough to represent us. When we have these payers missing through injury or out of form results will obviously suffer.
The point of this message is we have no Carragher,
Gerrard, Torres is struggling and Pepe Reina is missing a steady / / solid defence in front of him in that even he doesn't look quite as reliable as normal.
With ref to Roys poor away record the number of clear cut chances scorned by so called top players over the Tottenham & Newcastle games have cost us valuable points which is not down to any misgivings from the way Roy has set the team up but poor play from highly paid profesional football players who seem to be avoiding all the flack which is just being aimed at Roy Hodgson

marco.

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12 Dec 2010 21:22:26
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@kennethdalglish has tweeted that "Roy hasn't left Liverpool. A malicious rumour"

me14

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12 Dec 2010 21:21:05
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1ST. . There is absolutley NO CHANCE the owners would answer questions as direct as how bad the managers tactics are . .These guys are top business men and seem to have closed the door on media leaks and unproffesional behaviour which is how it should be. .
2ND. . LFC TV would NEVER even ask questions of that nature to the owners only hand picked questions will get through.
3RD. .These guys are not idiots the roy thing is in hand he'll be gone in the summer and a replacement is already being sought. .even if results get worse unless the right guy is available he'll be here till then. .
Ed what do u reckon?

{Editor's Note: I agree with you.}

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12 Dec 2010 21:19:40
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Ed

If you get the opportunity to ask a question you could ask if NESV will consider a supporter ownership in the long term of the club. At some future date a consortium could be invited/ allowed to purchase a minority shareholding in the club. This would water down the NESV financial outlay and show that they have some respect for the long term future of the club. There are many variations as to how this could be done but it would be an illustration of their respect for the club.
The consortium could have a seat on the board and there could be benefits to the individual investors. It would show the PL and UEFA that Liverpool are trying to run the club in a more democratic way.
I don't see the point in asking short term questions about the Manager or player purchases as these would all be fielded in a non-committal way.
Perhaps this is a question that could be developed?

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12 Dec 2010 21:19:15
Well Macca me old mate! We are now offering you on a free transfer! So why don't you just pop off away from this site and stop pretending your a Liverpool fan. Torros and anyone else that want's to can kiss off if we get the right money for them and if not then they aint going anyhwere sunshine. The club must always come first. The RIGHT manager is out there somewhere we just have to pick the right moment. Until then your either a fan or not. Stop your negative whenging
Clubfirst.com

So you are obviously the type of person who doesn't want to find out the real truth that's going on behind the scenes at the club. I presume you still believe in Father Christmas, don't worry i will not shatter that dream for you.

Also i go to 90% of the games home and away, i know a couple of the first team players very well and also the commercial director personally.

I suppose most people would like to know the truth at the club, i certainly do.

Also i believe the club is in very safe hands now and also believe a new manager will be appointed when he becomes available.

Thoughts please.

Macca

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12 Dec 2010 21:18:41
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{ed's note - he has done well in Norwegian football, looked good for his country in the World Cup and African Nations as well. But I would have to say that 6m is a lot for a player untested in a decent league, plus I am not a fan of defensive midfielders anyway. It is a pointless position, unless it is played the way Busquets plays for Barca.}

finally somebody agrees with me it was much better when there were just two centre mids running back and fourth up the pitch being wherever needed, and if we are in search of a dcm then make a creative one like banega or martinez. and editor where do you think honda wojuld fit in the side because he has same pos. as meireles, dare i say it, lets play him a t left-back anyone agree (supposing we get him)

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12 Dec 2010 21:14:26
To be fair to Babel he has plenty of time to tweet as he's spent more time on the bench than a high court judge.

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. COME ON REBECCA!
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No wonder he's on the bench with his attitude and lack of interest. This is the first time I seen his twitter and I'm utterly shocked and disgusted. Babel gets paid tens of thousands every week and does absolutly nothing but rap and talk to his friends and worry about his meetings.

We don't need this at our club. Time to move him on elsewhere. I was willing to give him a chance before but after seeing that I've completly changed my mind about him.

Of course, off the field footballers have lives. But goodness me, Babel is obsessed with Twitter and obsessed with his record label and his rapping. I've looked back and it seems he's constantly on it.

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12 Dec 2010 21:14:24
Mate, firstly getting rid of RH tomorrow would then leave us vunerable to a quick fix appointment. I for one don't want Martin O'neill or any other mediocre unemployed gaffer - I'd prefer waiting for the best to become available. With a world class gaffer we can then concentrate on player aquisitions, team rebuiding, tactics & so on. Lets hang in there 'til the summer (providing we're not in the bottom 3) & let LFC negotiate & bring in the next (& best) managerial team. Then competing at the top of the table will be a realistic request from all LFC fans.
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We can't afford to hang on to the summer mate with Hodgson at the helm. If he stays then we will finish somewere between 10th-15th and who will want to play for us with no European football.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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12 Dec 2010 21:11:24
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Tevez on £286,000 tax free a week. . . . . .Still want him?

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12 Dec 2010 21:03:58
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Ed,

Is Didier Deschamps of Marseille a good motviator?

And does he have a good understanding/ equation with Comolli?

Pritam

{Editor's Note: Deschamps is a reasonable manager. I don't know of any dealings he has had with Comolli though.}

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12 Dec 2010 21:02:59
12 Dec 2010 20:42:08
Just reading Ryan Babel's Twitter for the first time. I am shocked and downright angry. All Babel talks about is how amazing Barcelona are, and his rapping and his h* king record label or whatever it is he is involved in.

He is more concerned about that than LFC and he's getting paid a bomb. Bad attitude. Absolute h* king disgrace that we pay our good money and get devistated about losing and poor results and we have people like this in the squad. I'm actually fuming. And a fan had a pop at him for this and told him to worry about LFC and not his rapping and he said "That's football man I got problems you don't lose sleep about mine" - No, the fans lose sleep over the problems your attitude and other attitudes causes on the field. You makes tens of thousands every week for sitting on the bench and you have problems?

Time to ship out . I'm fed up spending my hard earned money to watch this every week and to travel. I'm saving my money from now on. I'm gona take my kids out for Christmas and spend a bomb on them instead of spending my money to watch people like this let us down time and time again.
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To be fair to Babel he has plenty of time to tweet as he's spent more time on the bench than a high court judge.

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. COME ON REBECCA!

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12 Dec 2010 21:02:48
Who can talk to bable on twitter tell him to get his arse on here and seewhat we think and and why ant he playing up to standed and why does he want to be a raper when he is a footballer he shoud be thinkink how he can start playing upfront with torres cos it would be good

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12 Dec 2010 20:57:57
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I recently signed up to twitter, mainly to communicate with J Henry just to get shot of that chump Hodgson. Ryan Babel is constantly on there wittering on about total billocks, not interested in football or Lpool at all.

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12 Dec 2010 20:55:50
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If the new owners are on lfc tv on monday night we all need to get questions and emails to them telling them why rh should be sacked. i have sent the following and encourage you all to send similar messages. it is no good just telling them to sack him, we have to give reason why he is not suited to our club.


'dear lfc tv,

please ask jh the following questions -
-if he thinks roy hodgson, a manger who has only ever had moderate success at clubs far smaller than liverpool, is good enough to get us in the champions league let alone winning the premier league?
-does he think rh's record of 7 wins in 55 away premier league games good enough for a club looking to compete for major honours?
-if we only seem capable of competing in 50% of our matches how does jh suppose we can succeed in such competitive competitions?
-did he watch roy stood helpless by the side of the pitch at newcastle yesterday rubbing his face continually? was it not embarrassing for anyone associated with the club?
-did he see any evidence of roy trying to change things once newcastle took control of the second half?
-if, as roy claims, he needs more time to get his messages and ideas accross to the players, why do you think he just stands or sits at the side of the pitch whether his team is losing, drawing or even winning instead of trying to get ideas on to the pitch or changing things?

We are liverpool and expect better. Most sensible liverpool fans accept the limitations of the squad compared to others in the league, but what we cannot accept is the way the team is set up not to lose, how the players play with fear not ambition or how even if we are winning the team sits back and tries to hang on to what it has instead of having the courage to push on and play like a top team. this is the mentality of a small club without ambition to win honours and the longer it continues the harder it will be for a new manager to bring the club back to were it should be. it is no good waiting till the end of the season, it could take years to bring things back if we have another 6 months of this type of football. thanks to the inconsistency of other teams this season we still have a chance to make this season a success but only if we have someone in charge with courage and ambition. it is incredible we are only 10 points off the top of the table and looking back at some of the performances season we should much closer, a positive manager could still take advantage of what should have been a season which saw us competing at the very top of the table. Please listen to what the majority of fans are saying and make changes before it is too late.'

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Mate, firstly getting rid of RH tomorrow would then leave us vunerable to a quick fix appointment. I for one don't want Martin O'neill or any other mediocre unemployed gaffer - I'd prefer waiting for the best to become available. With a world class gaffer we can then concentrate on player aquisitions, team rebuiding, tactics & so on. Lets hang in there 'til the summer (providing we're not in the bottom 3) & let LFC negotiate & bring in the next (& best) managerial team. Then competing at the top of the table will be a realistic request from all LFC fans.

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12 Dec 2010 20:55:38
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Word from Kenny a moment ago on Twitter -

kennethdalglish Roy hasn't left Liverpool. A malicious rumour
1 minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Ant

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12 Dec 2010 20:48:20
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Just joined twitter. Can anyone give me user names of people worth following?

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12 Dec 2010 20:47:40
Ssn saying tevez wants to leave because of certain ppl he hasn't seen eye to eye too. Not because of being home sick. Sure man city could be covering it up. Maybe try to get him? Tevez + Johnson for Torres. If that deal does go through it won't be long before they find out how Torres has lost it. Anyone agree? It's just wishful hoping though
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So your wishful and hoping that we lose Fernando Torres? What type of fan are you?

And a player doesn't lose his ability. Ever heard "form is temporary, class is permanent"?

Go spout your utter nonsense elsewhere.

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12 Dec 2010 20:47:24
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Roy to step down as the club is losing confidence over speculation about his future, and he feels it's just a matter of time before NESV hand is forced into replacing him.
Roy also wants to become the next England Boss and can only see more than good staying on to be sacked.

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12 Dec 2010 20:42:08
Just reading Ryan Babel's Twitter for the first time. I am shocked and downright angry. All Babel talks about is how amazing Barcelona are, and his rapping and his h* king record label or whatever it is he is involved in.

He is more concerned about that than LFC and he's getting paid a bomb. Bad attitude. Absolute h* king disgrace that we pay our good money and get devistated about losing and poor results and we have people like this in the squad. I'm actually fuming. And a fan had a pop at him for this and told him to worry about LFC and not his rapping and he said "That's football man I got problems you don't lose sleep about mine" - No, the fans lose sleep over the problems your attitude and other attitudes causes on the field. You makes tens of thousands every week for sitting on the bench and you have problems?

Time to ship out . I'm fed up spending my hard earned money to watch this every week and to travel. I'm saving my money from now on. I'm gona take my kids out for Christmas and spend a bomb on them instead of spending my money to watch people like this let us down time and time again.

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12 Dec 2010 20:41:18
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Ssn saying tevez wants to leave because of certain ppl he hasn't seen eye to eye too. Not because of being home sick. Sure man city could be covering it up. Maybe try to get him? Tevez + Johnson for Torres. If that deal does go through it won't be long before they find out how Torres has lost it. Anyone agree? It's just wishful hoping though

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12 Dec 2010 20:37:51
Hi ed go to google and put in xherdan shaqiri and it willcome up with every think about him really looks good and roy getting tired but are we being harsh on him do you think

{Editor's Note: Thanks for the advice.}

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12 Dec 2010 20:36:41
Ed, if we change manager and spend right in jan do u think we can finish in the top 4

{Editor's Note: I think the top four is achievable without changing the manager.}

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12 Dec 2010 20:33:49
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In reply to the post below. . .

12 Dec 2010 20:16:24
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My nan told me that Liverpool are interested in Honda.


Sorry mate that would've been me that she got that off !

pillow talk i guess, anyway i tucked her in before i left.

now that's a rumour. . .

king kenny07

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12 Dec 2010 20:31:28
Hi ed i just see this player called xherdan shaqiri looks really good to me but could he cut it at liverpool what you think thanks

{Editor's Note: He is just a kid from Basle and I know little of him.}

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12 Dec 2010 20:28:14
This is a question to MUSHROOM

Do you still think we should give Hodgson more time or do you still think we're to harsh and should get behind him?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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12 Dec 2010 20:27:12
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Well Macca me old mate! We are now offering you on a free transfer! So why don't you just F* *K off away from this site and stop pretending your a Liverpool fan. Torros and anyone else that want's to can piss off if we get the right money for them and if not then they aint going anyhwere sunshine. The club must always come first. The RIGHT manager is out there somewhere we just have to pick the right moment. Until then your either a fan or not. Stop your negative whenging
Clubfirst.com {ed's note - just because he has stuff to say you don't like doesn't mean he should get off the site. You would soon get bored reading everyone having the same opinion as yourself.}

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12 Dec 2010 20:25:03
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Taxi for woy! !

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12 Dec 2010 20:11:28
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Hi ed who is valentin stocker and luis suarez anr they any good cos i can't find any think about them and just seen a pic of roy from today looks like hegot some bags under his eyes poor roy lee {ed's note - Stocker is a Swiss international, looks ok, but not really top class to me. Suarez is a Uruguayan international, plays for Ajax and has a great scoring record but poor discipline.}

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12 Dec 2010 19:57:51
1- Macca is right about Torres being unhappy, he have been since last year, Roy did make an effort to go and see him in the summer, for that Torres have repaid by sticking and hoping things get better, but he now realised things have actually got worse. Not sure if he will leave in Jan or summer, but we need to realise we are not getting the 50m people are posting in here, we are lucky if we get around the 30m, an unhappy player is a cheap player. .and by the way City/ Mancini won't let adam johnson go, he has been a super sub for them, he is one of the few young english talents they have , and they would value him at a greater price than Torres.
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An unhappy player is a cheap player? Seriously mate, that's complete balls. I wouldn't care if Torres was unhappy or not. If he requested to leave then fair enough, we respect his wishes. But he's a world class player and a massive loss. We're not desperate for the money, so we can demand whatever the hell we want for him.

Ronaldo was unhappy in his final months as a United player because he wanted to move to Real Madrid, and they got £80m for him didn't they?
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look lads are you happy the way things are how would you expect torres to be i can't believe how quick people are turning on him i thought we as liverpool fans would be above all this.
king henry
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I don't recall saying I had turned on him? I'm argueing that we can and will demand as much as we want for Fernando Torres regardless of whether he is happy or not.

I've defended F.Torres 90% of the time this season. I think he's lacking confidence but for the time being I have no doubts that he is working hard.
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im not saying you personally but all day theres posts to get rid can you name 1 striker who would do as well as torres in the current team maybe i seeing something different but the lad gets no service whats so ever, i can't really remember much crosses from the wings at all yesterday, every player has an off season,
i think he is burnt out that's all, alot of injury's, the world cup, himself and gerrard are expected to carry the team, how many times has gerrard and torres saved our team from results like yesterday, we can't keep relying on them the need help the finger should be pointed somewhere else, thats just my opinion.
king henry

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12 Dec 2010 19:53:12
12 Dec 2010 19:40:14
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Come on Rebecca Ferguson! Let's give the Liverpool fans something to cheer about!
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Couldn't believe the Liverpool website I stead of cheering on our team, let's instead watch and care about the x factor?

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12 Dec 2010 19:52:34
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Christ Houghton to replace him with immediate effect!

The lord works in mysterious ways.

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12 Dec 2010 19:51:44
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Torres is not happy
Torres is not interseted
Tores will be leaving in Jan
Torres will leave in the summer

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Can anyone tell where will he go if he leaves Liverpool?

He will be nuts to leave Liverpool. . . simple as that. . because

1. his style of play doesn't suit any country apart from England
2. his style of play doesn't suit any club apart from Liverpool

Pritam

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12 Dec 2010 19:45:13
I can't take the shame no more. We got beat by a club in crisis with a crap manager (Newcastle). How many away defeats can we take before Roy is told to go?

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. Please, Please, Please, Please Roy f*** off.

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12 Dec 2010 19:40:14
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Come on Rebecca Ferguson! Let's give the Liverpool fans something to cheer about!

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12 Dec 2010 19:39:30
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Manager merry go-round:
Owen coyle-Liverpool
Chris hughton-West ham
Mark hughes-Bolton
Roy hodgson-Fulham
Avram Grant-Ipswich
Harry redknapp-England
Fabio cappello-Inter milan
Rafa benitez-Real madrid
Jose mourihno-Man City
Pep guiradola-Chelsea
Andre villas Boas-Barcelona
Frank rijkaard-Tottenham
Carlo Ancelloti-Ajax
Roberto mancini-Milan

finally Graemme Souness- Swansea!

Got a few problems with this mate, starting from the top:
Hodgson will not go back to Fulham, Hughes is happy there, he's doing a decent job, more likely Woy will end up at Bolton.
Avram Grant isn't a Sven, where he'll "pimp" himself to any club available. He'll go abroad, probably nowhere fancy.
Capello has said that when he leaves the England post he's retiring, so that is 100% false.
Why on earth would Madrid take Rafa when he's doing shocking for Inter!? Besides, they've got Mourinho, who won't leave for Citeh.
Pep has said he'll leave eventually, but not yet, so can't see him going in the next 3 years. Besides, Barca like established coaches, bar Pep who was a bit of a legend there. The likelyhood is that either a top class coach who has won many trophies will take over, or Figo will return or another cult hero.
Ancelotti would simply not stoop to such a level where money is thin on the ground and in a league that has 1 major force and 3-4 decent sides, Ajax being one of them. He'll go, maybe back to AC Milan, which leads to the final one; Mancini is a hero with Inter, as a player and manager. He wouldn't trade all of that in for a shot with AC.

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12 Dec 2010 19:39:23
1- Macca is right about Torres being unhappy, he have been since last year, Roy did make an effort to go and see him in the summer, for that Torres have repaid by sticking and hoping things get better, but he now realised things have actually got worse. Not sure if he will leave in Jan or summer, but we need to realise we are not getting the 50m people are posting in here, we are lucky if we get around the 30m, an unhappy player is a cheap player. .and by the way City/ Mancini won't let adam johnson go, he has been a super sub for them, he is one of the few young english talents they have , and they would value him at a greater price than Torres.
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An unhappy player is a cheap player? Seriously mate, that's complete balls. I wouldn't care if Torres was unhappy or not. If he requested to leave then fair enough, we respect his wishes. But he's a world class player and a massive loss. We're not desperate for the money, so we can demand whatever the hell we want for him.

Ronaldo was unhappy in his final months as a United player because he wanted to move to Real Madrid, and they got £80m for him didn't they?
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look lads are you happy the way things are how would you expect torres to be i can't believe how quick people are turning on him i thought we as liverpool fans would be above all this.
king henry
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I don't recall saying I had turned on him? I'm argueing that we can and will demand as much as we want for Fernando Torres regardless of whether he is happy or not.

I've defended F.Torres 90% of the time this season. I think he's lacking confidence but for the time being I have no doubts that he is working hard.

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12 Dec 2010 19:39:22
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Just want to say this I still believe that Liverpool do have a chance to be in champions league next year if the put their acts together get rid of Roy get in some one who can bring stability. Roy doesn't look a bad person he should give up as Liverpool is too big for him. If we buy couple of good players next transfer market we can do the job. I am sure we have tottenham the sh*t man u and man city at home and there will be other teams dropping points. But we need to do something now otherwise it will be worse for us

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12 Dec 2010 19:37:25
According to Twitter there are meetings taking place in Liverpool, not sure what about. Babel says "CEO Meeting" which signals that Henry and Warner have organised a meeting about something, got to be about the manager. I'd expect Roy to be sacked by Monday.
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12 Dec 2010 19:34:58
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1- Macca is right about Torres being unhappy, he have been since last year, Roy did make an effort to go and see him in the summer, for that Torres have repaid by sticking and hoping things get better, but he now realised things have actually got worse. Not sure if he will leave in Jan or summer, but we need to realise we are not getting the 50m people are posting in here, we are lucky if we get around the 30m, an unhappy player is a cheap player. .and by the way City/ Mancini won't let adam johnson go, he has been a super sub for them, he is one of the few young english talents they have , and they would value him at a greater price than Torres.
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An unhappy player is a cheap player? Seriously mate, that's complete balls. I wouldn't care if Torres was unhappy or not. If he requested to leave then fair enough, we respect his wishes. But he's a world class player and a massive loss. We're not desperate for the money, so we can demand whatever the hell we want for him.

Ronaldo was unhappy in his final months as a United player because he wanted to move to Real Madrid, and they got £80m for him didn't they?
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look lads are you happy the way things are how would you expect torres to be i can't believe how quick people are turning on him i thought we as liverpool fans would be above all this.
king henry

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12 Dec 2010 19:34:44
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1) If seems plausible that Tevez could end up with Real Madrid. The nice thing about that is that it would take some of the interest away from Llorente, possibly lowering his price and opening up the door for us to swoop in.

2) I think people are reading too far in to this whole idea of the players not being happy at Liverpool. While it may very well be true, I doubt that they would want to be on the move when it appears stability at the club is just around the corner. The new owners WILL find a new manager, and new players WILL be brought in. It takes a bit of patience, and I'm sure the owners have assured the players of that. Bright times ahead. YNWA

Mark

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12 Dec 2010 19:19:03
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According to Twitter there are meetings taking place in Liverpool, not sure what about. Babel says "CEO Meeting" which signals that Henry and Warner have organised a meeting about something, got to be about the manager. I'd expect Roy to be sacked by Monday.

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12 Dec 2010 19:17:48
I hope someone asks Henry what his short-term plans with the club are. Obviously, we all know he has a long-term agenda to make Liverpool the biggest club in world football.

I think as a fanbase, we tend to be a patient bunch and are willing to wait for success. However, we've been waiting to return to the summit of English football for the last 20 years, our record could soon be beaten by Man Utd and we've been let down by previous owners who promised to take us to the top.

We are in turmoil on the field which could result in us losing key players and make the fans even more pessemistic than we already are.

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12 Dec 2010 19:17:41
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12 Dec 2010 19:09:05
Few random unhappy points - :
1- Macca is right about Torres being unhappy, he have been since last year, Roy did make an effort to go and see him in the summer, for that Torres have repaid by sticking and hoping things get better, but he now realised things have actually got worse. Not sure if he will leave in Jan or summer, but we need to realise we are not getting the 50m people are posting in here, we are lucky if we get around the 30m, an unhappy player is a cheap player. .and by the way City/ Mancini won't let adam johnson go, he has been a super sub for them, he is one of the few young english talents they have , and they would value him at a greater price than Torres.

2- Posted few weeks ago, few players are set to leave this Jan, if not sold, loaned, these players asked to move because they are not happy with current management, these include Pacheco (new contract or not) , Johnson, Babel , Jovanovic and Agger and maybe Lucas.

3- On current form top 8 is the best we can hope for, if few of us clued up fans can see that, its most definitely players and their advisers can see it too, not many decent players will want to come to us, so forget the likes of suarez (Spurs will be interested) and Llorente (Madrid will be interested) , Honda is not going to swap being at a team challenging for the title in their league to a team not sure of Europa spot, we will need to offer more money than normal to get these kind of players and personally cannot see NESV opting for this kind of policy.

Can we change things, yes we can, tomorrow the owners will be answering questions on LFC now, if as many of us as possible told them about our unhappiness with the current management (in a nice articulate polite way) mentioning his poor away record and unattractive football , they may just may start pondering about alternatives, I know we would nt be telling them anything new, but they would know its important to a lot of us liverpool fans that are number one in the world with their football knowledge.
Roy
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12 Dec 2010 19:12:09
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The match yesterday was a complete disgrace.I have been impressed with the teams home performances but away from home needs to get better! ROY needs to change things in January JAN: out: lucas kuyt babelaurelio skrtelaquilaniall of them outin:honda, would be a good signing and will pay for himself wit shirt sales in asia.a johnson, would be excellent signing providing width and the pace that players like kuyt don't have.g. cahill much needed c b suarz can score goals and take pressure of toressnot impossible and would make a huge difference to the team.

are you serious? we already have a less that maximum squad size, which has been one of our main problems, no depth, and you want to sell 6 players (1 of which has been one of our most consistent performers, lucas) to bring in 4 players, only 2 of which i would agree with, johnson and honda. behave yourself

ryan c belfast ynwa

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12 Dec 2010 19:08:00
12 Dec 2010 18:32:28
Presuming our next manager must speak good English and hopefully have a successful track record, what names will be on the list? Any suggestions?
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Luis Figo ?

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12 Dec 2010 19:06:23
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Well everyone seems to have gone manager crazy again today. . yet RH remains in charge!

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12 Dec 2010 19:05:50
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12 Dec 2010 18:57:40Liverpool RumoursThe match yesterday was a complete disgrace.I have been impressed with the teams home performances but away from home needs to get better! ROY needs to change things in January JAN: out: lucas kuyt babelaurelio skrtelaquilaniall of them outin:honda, would be a good signing and will pay for himself wit shirt sales in asia.a johnson, would be excellent signing providing width and the pace that players like kuyt don't have.g. cahill much needed c b suarz can score goals and take pressure of toressnot impossible and would make a huge difference to the team.

are you serious? we already have a less that maximum squad size, which is apart of the problem, no depth, and you want to get rid of 6 players (1 of which has been one of our most consistent performers, lucas) to bring in 4 players? only 2 of which i would agree with, johnson and honda. behave yourself

ryan c belfast ynwa

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12 Dec 2010 19:01:41
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What owen doing on man u bench come to liverpool and score goals for us

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12 Dec 2010 19:00:54
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12 Dec 2010 18:12:55
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12 Dec 2010 16:20:16
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CITY are to offer £50m for TORRES 100% TRUE
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If Tevez has gone on strike or as stated on Sky Sports has played his last game for Man City, then due to the desperation of city to find a replacement we should bargain hard and hold out for a world record transfer of £81m+, that is if Torres has really stated that he wants to leave Liverpool.

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12 Dec 2010 18:58:52
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Im all for giving managers a chance to prove their worth, but surely its time for roy to go. he is just not producing the results away from home. its becoming a little frustrating, knowing that everytime we play away, we are going to drop points. i think its wise to get rid now, so whomever takes over has a few weeks to get to know the team before spending any money in jan. also, i think torres should be sold. its clear that hes not happy, combine that with the fact that hes usually out for half a season and still rakes in over 100k a week. its stupid to hold on to him. i know a lot of you think hes the mutts nuts, best striker we have had in years, but come on, its got to a point where it would be a better option to play babel and ngog up front. i never thought id ever say that. so roy and nando to go by jan, decent manager and 40m+ to mess about with to arrive, works for me, don't know about the rest of you

ryan c belfast ynwa

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12 Dec 2010 18:57:43
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TORRES
i posted about his body language concerning the tottenham penalty and that he looks unhappy, well after yesterdys performance he looks totally depressed, ngog is now a better all round player than torres, like it or not, its true just look, that lad has come on 50% from last season, and torres has gone backwards big time, i would drop him and play babbel it could be the kick up the arse he needs if not sell him to the highest bidder even if it was man utd because he may never rediscover his true form, bob paisleys skids

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12 Dec 2010 18:57:40
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The match yesterday was a complete disgrace.I have been impressed with the teams home performances but away from home needs to get better! ROY needs to change things in January

JAN:
out: lucas
kuyt
babel
aurelio
skrtel
aquilani
all of them out


in:
honda, would be a good signing and will pay for himself wit shirt sales in asia.
a johnson, would be excellent signing providing width and the pace that players like kuyt don't have.
g. cahill much needed c b
suarz can score goals and take pressure of toress


not impossible and would make a huge difference to the team.

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12 Dec 2010 18:50:40
I met glen johnson today :) he's very nice he's now following me on Twitter which is pretty cool actually, anyways I'm only 15 but boi Liverpool are very bad away from home I don't know too much about managers but I sprt of think it is his fault his subs are very bad and he doesn't shout at the team to attack attack and if fernando is playing bad thn take him off end of. Anyway hope we get a striker I wouldn't mind adebayor+ Johnson for Nando actually :) anyway keep going boys ping to the fulham game just ride it out until jan
oh and p.s men upstairs please do your best in January
merry Christmas everyone I know it's very hard but 3 words
Keep The Faith
Come back stevie
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12 Dec 2010 18:50:07
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Ed, i see people on here on about selling Torres and i think its safe to say hes not happy at the moment , but even with him not playing well if your not getting service what can you do. Selling him won't solve anything, i think he'll come good but not with Hodgson in charge never rated him and never wanted him as manager, he should go along with Skrtel he has to be our worst defender.What do you think, and what would think about Markus Babbel, Clough or Phil Thompson (he did a good job when in temperary charge) for manager? Just trying to think of someone who played for us as manager.

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12 Dec 2010 18:41:22
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Roy Hodgson sacked! Am standing outside the hotel where the LFC meeting took place. The meeting was called on to discuss matters including search for new CEO , and they have reached the consensus for roy to go. Further information will be provided in the official statement later . I am not in the know of more than this . Sorry guys

Why the hell would they have a meeting in an hotel when they've got a perfectly good board room there an it's probably safer from prying ears.

Sooty.

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12 Dec 2010 18:41:22
{ed's note - I don't know about him wanting to leave, but he is certainly unhappy with things at the moment. The appointment of Roy Hodgson has not been one he has been pleased with, he was unhappy before then but he was hoping to see the club show ambition and desire this season.}
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Maybe one or two good players in January and a change in management would convince him to stay?

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12 Dec 2010 18:40:53
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Ed who do you think we should sign for the wings

{Editor's Note: Honda could play wide or possibly Sylvain Marveaux.}

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12 Dec 2010 18:37:31
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Surely John Henry and co realise that after the weekends performance and they are going to be riddled with "when are you going to fire roy?" questions and "what players are we targetting in january?"

because of this I believe they will have a answer planned for the obvious questions kinda like an official statement. Ed what do you think ?

{Editor's Note: They will be well prepared.}

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12 Dec 2010 18:33:14
The game yetserday was a sickener. Basically, we should have had it sewn up well before their second goal. At half time we had 9 attempts to their 1. At fill-time they had just 3 attempts and we conceded to all of them.

For 20 mins after HT we bossed the game and should have scored a few. Torres just was not interested. There's been a lot of debate about this, but given he was coming back from injury how come he started anyway. A bad Roy decision. We trounced Villa and if we had started with Ngog and Babel (yes, I really am saying this) we would have been up at HT.

The real problem yesterday ws the defence. Skertel was at fault for all 3 goals, notably the first and second. What the hell has gone wrong with this guy. Konchelsy is also not up to it. The big Greek is actually looking okay as he is big and strong and Johnstone is fine. But we need at least 2 class defenders, one more class midfielder and one class striker. The total cost of al this will be at least 80-90 million and we don't have that. Sadly, the only way we wil get the money to bring is real quality is sell some, that means getting as much for Torres as we can.

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12 Dec 2010 18:32:28
Presuming our next manager must speak good English and hopefully have a successful track record, what names will be on the list? Any suggestions?

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12 Dec 2010 18:31:55
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I have heard a few people talking of Alonso returning to liverpool although i hope this is true i can't see it myself? any1 else heard this?

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he always comes back to Anfield to watch games as/ when he can, and was shown on cameras at recent game. its just rubbish rumours based on this!
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In 10-15 years time Alonso would make a good Liverpool Manager? Comments please.

WHY would he?

Sooty

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12 Dec 2010 18:31:14
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Alot of people calling torres' commitment into question, but yesterday he had to compete in the air with steven taylor and sol campbell, an almost impossible task. and i thought it was great to see him stand-up to that barton (it's scary how much i despise barton).

ed can you see nando staying to get kicked to pieces every week for no gain (apart from all the money).

always a red

{Editor's Note: I can't see him leaving in January.}

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12 Dec 2010 18:30:38
Collectively our back 4 must be the worst I have seen at Anfield.If Roy continues to persist with them , then he will condem us to middle table mediocrity.I don't know if Kelly or Wilson and Mavinga can make the step up, but they are all international youngsters.He should know that LFC fans can spot a donkey, Konchesky as absolutely nothing in his footballing profile, he is just consistently bad, I would say average, but I am truthful.The thing is, when we were being linked with him, I was shaking my head, just couldnt believe we paid 4 million and 2 youngsters.

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12 Dec 2010 18:29:42
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NESV are live on LFC TV tomorrow at five! Why would they sack Roy just before or on the day they are going to do this.

Get real people he is going nowhere until the end of the season, so stop jumping on the band wagon each time he loses a game.

Unless we lose a few in a row again he aint going nowhere!

What does Ed think?

{Editor's Note: I don't expect the manager to go tomorrow.}

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12 Dec 2010 18:27:13
I've just been cheering myself up by watching Y*Tube videos of John Barnes.

Oh, how we could do with a magician like that in the current team!

Matt S - YNWA

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12 Dec 2010 18:26:53
I met glen johnson today :) he's very nice he's now following me on Twitter which is pretty cool actually, anyways I'm only 15 but boi Liverpool are very bad away from home I don't know too much about managers but I sprt of think it is his fault his subs are very bad and he doesn't shout at the team to attack attack and if fernando is playing bad thn take him off end of. Anyway hope we get a striker I wouldn't mind adebayor+ Johnson for Nando actually :) anyway keep going boys ping to the fulham game just ride it out until jan
oh and p.s men upstairs please do your best in January
merry Christmas everyone I know it's very hard but 3 words
Keep The Faith
Come back stevie
:)

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12 Dec 2010 18:20:27
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This is not a rumour but pls post in rumour section. Martin O'neill would be perfect for us. He has ambition always wants to be batterling for the title and signs good players

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12 Dec 2010 18:14:36
{ed's note - wasn't Kuyt's goal scoring record in Holland similar or even better than that?}
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So was Van Nistelrooy's {ed's note - so was Mateja Kezman's.}


Mateja Kezman's was better than all ov'em an he was rubbish at chelsea

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12 Dec 2010 18:14:29
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If Torres is going to Man City, I'm really not bothered.
Adebayor scored about 20-30 goals a season for Arsenal, said he loved the club, had a terrible playing mentality.

Torres scores about 20-30 goals a season for Liverpool (when injury free), said he loved the club, and has a terrible playing mentality(with his tantrums on the pitch)!

Adebayor went for about 25million. We could get about 30million for Torres, at least. He is younger.

With that + money from NESV we could sign Aguero/ Llorente + Suarez.

Hopefully we will get Honda, and possibly Santon on loan from Rafa.

Jamseyboy.

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12 Dec 2010 18:14:28
{ed's note - wasn't Kuyt's goal scoring record in Holland similar or even better than that?}
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You could continue the debate all night, and put in cases for players who have moved abroad and been a success, and players who have been failures.

As for Kuyt, I don't think he's been played as an out and out striker at Liverpool since arriving, whereas he was in Holland. And Kezman was a benchwarmer at Chelsea. {ed's note - yes but the point is still the same, judge on the player's performances not his stats. Plus there are numerous other factors, his personality for instance, his style of play etc.}

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12 Dec 2010 18:05:15
Luis Suarez has scored 110 goals in 154 games , at age 23 years it is an incredible statistic , and some of his goals are extraordinary . {ed's note - wasn't Kuyt's goal scoring record in Holland similar or even better than that?}

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By the age of 23 Dirk Kuyt had scored 66 goals in 184 games - only 1 goal every 3 games , he did however fair much better at Feyenoord - 83 goals in 122 games .

I have to think if LFC sign suarez he would be a success .

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12 Dec 2010 18:01:11
{ed's note - wasn't Kuyt's goal scoring record in Holland similar or even better than that?}
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So was Van Nistelrooy's {ed's note - so was Mateja Kezman's.}

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12 Dec 2010 17:57:26
LFC look out of the battle for 5th place in the league , never mind the top 4 .

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12 Dec 2010 17:53:41
Luis Suarez has scored 110 goals in 154 games , at age 23 years it is an incredible statistic , and some of his goals are extraordinary . {ed's note - wasn't Kuyt's goal scoring record in Holland similar or even better than that?}

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12 Dec 2010 17:40:05
So, how do people know Torres is unhappy? Has Torres told you this personally, or a family member of the player? I highly doubt it.

There is a difference between lack of happiness and lack of confidence. Torres has been injured and it took him a few weeks to recover, then to get fully fit. He hasn't played his best football and I think he's very short on confidence (something said by many of the pundits both on LFC TV and the general media).

People are just jumping to conclusions in my opinion. I think he could be doing better, but time and time again I've seen him chasing the ball and working quite hard. He wouldn't be doing that if he didn't want to be here, and just look at his reactions when we score.

Stop jumping to conclusions people and just assuming stuff. Then suggesting we sell him. Pack of babies to say the least.

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12 Dec 2010 17:39:44
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Watching the game yesterday i repeatedly found myself cursing at the lack of hunger and desire that some of the players showed. In my eyes there are too many people who aren't prepared to put a shift in and help the team. We are missing the grit and determination of previous Liverpool teams. We need more physicality so we don't get pushed around by teams like Newcastle, Stoke and Blackpool. I know you don't agree with me ed but as you saw yesterday Andy Carrol showed signs of class, yes he has a bad off the field history but that can be sorted, he is a great English centre forward who is physical and puts a great shift in.
We should also look at Luis Suarez, he reminds me of Carlos Tevez on the pitch, he is a born goalscorer and is always one of the most hardworking players onthe pitch, another player we should look at is Anthony Annan, after seeing him play for Ghana against some of the worlds best he never failed to dissapoint and finally we need a solid rock at the back as unfortunately I can't see carra being 100% fit again. I would buy Gary Cahill as he is a good solid reliable centre back.
As for Roy, I won't be sharing my opinion, if he leaves us we should bring in Owen Coyle as he has Bolton playing good football and is getting the results.
Ins should be:
Luis Suarez 15 Million, Andy Carrol 15 million, Anthony Annan 6 million and Gary Cahill 9 million.
Outs should be:
Poulson kyriagkos koncheskey and if he isn't willing to be a part of Liverpool fc and doesn't want to fight to improve Liverpool fc Fernando Torres should leave. I'm sure money bags city would love another heartless footballer on their books.
Any additions/ questions from you ed?
Liverbird {ed's note - I just don't understand what you see in Carroll unless you want the team to play long ball football? His touch is terrible, he has no pace, no skill, nothing but the ability to be big and strong and head the ball. Yes I know he scored an excellent goal, but he had time and space to do anything, that was more about poor defending and I doubt he will score another like that this season.}

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12 Dec 2010 17:26:52
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We have same points as fulham this time last year , we are a better squad than fulham had under roy & we are no better than them under roy the clueless same wins same loses same draws, we will be lucky to finish 10th with this clown, i enjoy watching the europe league with the kids atleast they break sweat had enough now , we are a average team with a very bad manager, ynwa

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12 Dec 2010 17:25:28
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Bale ran 100 yards in almost 10 seconds. That's what "winger" should be, not Maxi.

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12 Dec 2010 17:24:57
I was really disappointed with Fernando Torres attitude yesterday. He is a world class player but his mentality is questionable at the moment. The man has just been given the gift of another child and should have been buzzing yesterday. He is a shadow of the player we all know he is. Form is temporary and class is permenant we say, but Fernando looks very unhappy and is playing that way. If he wants to go then sell him. He has been great for but we have been great for him too. Brave desitions need to be made in the up coming months with a lot of comings and goings. This club needs a manager who is not afraid to grab are mighty club by the scruff of the neck and lift us with a style of play we can all be proud of. Come on John Henry show us how astute you really are.

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12 Dec 2010 17:22:03
Anyone reckon we could have some fresh faces signed up before the transfer window opens? Or even have a new signing or two in the early stages of the window?

What you think Ed? Suppose I'm just so desperate to see new faces after the garbage we've seen this season. {ed's note - I do agree actually, I would be very surprised if the club haven't been in negotiations to prepare for the window to open. It is clear the club needs a lift and the sooner the better.}

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12 Dec 2010 17:20:26
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Owen Coyle or Ian Holloway will do- - Enough of Hodgeson!

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12 Dec 2010 17:12:48
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What would the opinion be on ancelotti as next manager? Wouldn't be surprised if abramovic sacks him soon. Also have to say anyone who thinks kuyt and maxi are good options for LFC as wide players should take a look at what Lennon and bale offer spurs from wide positions compared to our lot. .
Anfield Dan

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12 Dec 2010 17:10:45
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If Torres want's to leave, and citeh want to pay £50,000,000 then we should sell. No question in my mind. If a player wants to leave get as much as you can for him, who ever he is. How ever if he doesn't want to leave then you don't sell a player of his quality at any price! I hope he stays though and we provide quality players to play alongside of him!

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12 Dec 2010 17:10:02
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Shocked that people are even contemplating the notion of selling Fernando Torres. It is just utterly silly to suggest such a thing. When Torres is at his best he is unstoppable and there is not a single striker in world football we could buy who could perform like him and score the goals he scores. We should be aiming to build a team around him and get him a good strike partner.

When on form, there aren't many better strikers in world football (if any). Sure, we could buy two good strikers with the money we get but no chance of us getting someone who could match his ability.

Lets just concentrate on getting one or two quality players in the January transfer window who can make us better, and hopefully convince players like Torres that they should stay.

Every player has a bad run, and Torres is getting little service. If you're going to start saying to sell Torres because his lack of performances then lets sell Gerrard aswell, because he's done bugger all either.

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12 Dec 2010 17:02:56
God! its so depressing!
he has to go
how much more can we take?
look at the table how sad

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12 Dec 2010 17:00:33
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Johnson would never play on the wing for us simply because he would never get into England team, or the first eleven on that position.

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12 Dec 2010 16:56:22
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Liverpool Team for 11/ 12 season

REINA
KELLY AYALA AGGER COENTRU
SANCHEZ GERRARD MEIRELES HONDA
SUAREZ TORRES
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with just 4 new players i fink we cud challenge for the title

COENTRU - 15m
SANCHEZ - 20m
HONDA - 10m
SUAREZ - 15m

Total Spend 60m

aurelio
greek
skrtel
johnson
maxi
poulsen
jovanivic
kuyt
babel

Sell the lot of em

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12 Dec 2010 16:55:36
All i want for christmas is!
owen coyle
please before its to late

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12 Dec 2010 16:47:18
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If NESV and Liverpool FC want to avoid losing their best players and left behind in mid-table they will need to do two things:
1. Spend relatively big in January
2. Get rid of Hodgson

I have said it before, the current squad can be fixed. Buy two quality wingers with pace and skill along with perhaps another striker and you can navigate through the prem this year. Our problem is that offensively we have no bite or imagination. Even if you play poorly, if your finishing is clinical enough you will win more often than not. If you wait until the summer, you risk losing all of your assets and it'll be next to impossible to replace them with equal quality. Of course, the spending spree will carry on in the summer, but the frame of the squad will remain intact. If you stick with Roy, all bets are off. That's how simple it is.

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12 Dec 2010 16:43:11
For me the worst thing about yesterday was that I am not surprised we lost and that's a horrible feeling for a Liverpool fan.

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12 Dec 2010 16:42:26
{ed's note - don't you think Aurelio would be better at left back and shift Konchesky forward if you are going to play those two? After Konchesky can't defend in the slightest and regularly played left midfield for Charlton. I don't care if he doesn't want to play there, if that is the case he can rot in the reserves because he is not worthy of a shirt.}

I don't think Aurelio is better defensively , but can provide intelligent forward passes, I am one of the few that think re-signing Aurelio was a waste of wage money.
I do think we need to invest in a decent left back . not sure if any of the kids we have can provide a good balance between attacking and defence on the left side. (Is there any ed? )

Roy {ed's note - I am not a fan of Aurelio either mate, I thought it was a ludicrous decision to re-sign him. I think Mavinga has the potential to be an excellent left back, but he is getting played at centre half mainly for the reserves. At least he offers pace and power, Konchesky offers absolutely nothing to the team but the ability to dither and turn over possession. Robinson may be very young, but I would rather give him a run than keep playing Konchesky, especially while we have such a ponderous backline in Skrtel and Kyrgiakos and Carragher (when fit).}

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12 Dec 2010 16:42:06
Please
Owen Coyle as Manager
Get rid of Torres and stop chanting his name its sad
how about chanting some of the other player names who put a shift in
and Get Agger Back in
and Move Johnson into Midfield

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12 Dec 2010 16:40:19
Liverpool Rumours
RIENA
KELLY-AGGER-SOTO-KONCHESKY
G.JOHNSTON-GERRARD-MEIRLES-AURLIEO
TORRES-KUYT

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12 Dec 2010 16:34:04
A lot in here blaming the players for yesterday, and yes none of them performed.They were all rubbish from the defenders all the way to the forwards.
But this have been the case in every away game (bar united and spurs), so don't you think its down to how they 've been prepared for the away games? the formation and the tactics?

We complain about our defenders, but you just need to look at the goal we scored yesterday to see there are a lot worse defenders in the premier league than ours , Newcastle's pair were rubbish , but we did not press enough times to test them, a more attack minded team would have exploited them and we would have won the game .
The reason we lost because we allowed them to come at us after the we scored, they were bound to take a chance or 2.
It was the same story in all the other games we lost. we just sit back and invite pressure.

Roy

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12 Dec 2010 16:23:26
Surely the sale of liverpool to NESV went ahead with promise of a secure financial future and the signing of top class players? im gettin fed up watchin the club sign average players and making us go from a once great power in world football, to a second rate mid table team {ed's note - how many average players have the club signed since NESV took over? I think you will find it is none, so stop whining about them and give them a chance when the transfer window has opened.}

Exactly Ed

If you're not going to pay attention to what has happened and what will happen, Don't give us a un-usefull opinion.

UCCM

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12 Dec 2010 16:15:26
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Surely the sale of liverpool to NESV went ahead with promise of a secure financial future and the signing of top class players? im gettin fed up watchin the club sign average players and making us go from a once great power in world football, to a second rate mid table team {ed's note - how many average players have the club signed since NESV took over? I think you will find it is none, so stop whining about them and give them a chance when the transfer window has opened.}

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12 Dec 2010 16:09:05
Regarding team selection. I think its high time we stopped playing Maxi on the left-wing. Ok, he can cut in and make things happen or whatever, but we're so desperate for width.

I would put Aurelio at left-wing. He's great with set-pieces and atleast it would give us some width out there.

Its also time we stopped playing Kuyt out wide. It just isn't working. He can't cross, he can't beat a defender. Put Kuyt up top with Torres and give Joe Cole a run on the right.

Atleast it would give our team some balance, shape and width. It won't happen, but it couldn't be any worse than what we're doing now. {ed's note - don't you think Aurelio would be better at left back and shift Konchesky forward if you are going to play those two? After Konchesky can't defend in the slightest and regularly played left midfield for Charlton. I don't care if he doesn't want to play there, if that is the case he can rot in the reserves because he is not worthy of a shirt.}

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12 Dec 2010 15:59:55
Liverpool Rumours
My team
reinna
johnson shawcross dann contreao

walcott martinez gerrard johnson

torres llorente

jones

kelly carragher wilson agger

kuyt lucas meriles cole

ngog babel

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12 Dec 2010 15:57:17
I have really tried to give roy hodgson a chance, in fact after the stoke game i was stupid enough to think liverpool could get a run of results together.

but it wasnt until i saw roy's record in black and white, i realised how bad it was. in england his record is:

blackburn P 62. W 22. D 18. L 22.
fulham P 127. W 50. D 32. L 45.

and we all know his record at liverpool. lets face facts roy is not going to win us anything, top four is extremely unlikely, in fact top six maybe slipping away.
i have one question to people who support roy, what to you expect this great club to achieve this season with roy incharge. im not saying your wrong to stand by the manager but i just see things differently to you.

p.s good luck getting through to the owners tomorrow ed, but i wouldn't expect them to do or say anything other than support roy.

always a red

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12 Dec 2010 15:56:02
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Apparently tottenham are favourites to sign David santon from inter, I think we should be trying to sign him up though
thoughts ed? ?

{Editor's Note: Nope.}

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12 Dec 2010 15:54:09
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Just been to bookies and they REFUSED to take a bet on Woy being sacked tomorrow!

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12 Dec 2010 15:49:00
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Why do people on this site keep forgetting that Honda is coming to liverpool.

Ins
Honda
Suarez
New CB/ LB

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12 Dec 2010 15:46:38
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I personally believe that people sayin roy should go are a complete joke! we are playing no better than we did last season under rafa and yet MOST liverpool fans stuck behind him so why not do the same for roy?? ? as for jan we should be realistic if these yanks won't back roy we aren't going to sign any big names that have been linked so we can only hope they will pull there fingers out and give roy the cash too spend!

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12 Dec 2010 15:46:28
Chelsea drop Didier Drogba. Not injured, nothing wrong. He's fully fit. So its clearly to do with his poor form.

Lets follow suit and drop Fernando Torres against Fulham and show him that he has to start playing and grafting for the team and that he isn't untouchable.

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12 Dec 2010 15:42:03
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LUIS SUAREZ CLASS send babel back in the deal


gary moon

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12 Dec 2010 15:35:01
Ed! Do you honestly believe we will finish in the top 4 this season? {ed's note - nope, I think we will be lucky to qualify for Europe if we don't make a managerial change and quickly.}

have to agree with you ed unless we make a change of manager we will be very lucky to make europe

torres as to go you can see it he doesn't want to be there its not to do with not getting the ball he just doesn't want to be there i would love for him to stay but he as to go.

but he as to go back to spain not to another english club

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12 Dec 2010 15:33:07
{ed's note - I am just uncomfortable with the thought of him, it is not just his constant cheating, but his indiscipline. He reminds me of El-Hadji Diouf, the cheating, in my opinion, isn't because he is a winner, but because he is always looking for the easy option.}
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Maybe he dives but we have a handful of blatant divers in our team. Did you see Maxi yesterday?

I know Suarez bit someone, but apart from that has he really done anything that bad? (I'm not read up on his discipline or anything).

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12 Dec 2010 15:32:07
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Ed u havent gotta clue suarez is f*ckin class

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12 Dec 2010 15:31:13
Liverpool Rumours
"12 Dec 2010 15:11:45
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I have just heard that Torres is going to City and Tevez is trying to go to Chelsea.

Macca"

3 questions;
(1) Is this the real Macca?
(2) If yes, when you say "Torres is going to City" do you mean it is already decided?
(3) If yes, do you remember what happened last time you said a major player was leaving Liverpool?

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12 Dec 2010 15:30:38
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A young

is

CRAP

15m - 20m if not more great buy :(

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12 Dec 2010 15:30:15
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Well we went down again away from home just shocking whot is going on with that. anyway red fans anyone of us pool fans can see torro wants out 4 sure it don't look like he wants to be hear anymore an it gutts me, but it looks so much so it hurts. im just waiting for it ed whots your take on that mate we need to sort are team out big time this is going to take a very long time for this ship to turn round i think little gaffa is going 2 get the push an a lot of big changes are in the wind very very very soon lets just see whot are new owners are all about cos this will take a lot of POUNDS INDEED 2 PUT RIGHT.walk on the pool keep it going the red men onwards an upwards JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE RED TILL DEAD. GREAT SITE EDS KEEP IT REAL

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12 Dec 2010 15:30:05
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I have just heard that Torres is going to City and Tevez is trying to go to Chelsea.

Macca

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12 Dec 2010 15:26:37
Owen Coyle does it for Bolton again and it some style .

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12 Dec 2010 15:24:13
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Ed! Do you honestly believe we will finish in the top 4 this season? {ed's note - nope, I think we will be lucky to qualify for Europe if we don't make a managerial change and quickly.}

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12 Dec 2010 15:22:06
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We are not going to finish in the top 4, unless our away record significantly improves. RH has one of the worst away records for a premier league manager. So we all need to wake up and stop dreaming about these stars coming to us. Looks like we will be shopping in the January sales section in the transfer window.

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12 Dec 2010 15:21:33
Ed if we got suarez i wouldn't mind him biting gary neville or ferdinand! {ed's note - I am just uncomfortable with the thought of him, it is not just his constant cheating, but his indiscipline. He reminds me of El-Hadji Diouf, the cheating, in my opinion, isn't because he is a winner, but because he is always looking for the easy option.}

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12 Dec 2010 15:19:43
Look the reason Torres is not performing is not beacause of poor service, it is because he does NOT want to be there.

I promise you all this is the absolute truth. .

We are best selling him as he is more of a hinderance than a help.

Look it is sad but true.

We are Liverpool FC with the best fans, club in the world, he doesn't deserve our support.

Macca

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12 Dec 2010 15:16:22
No matter how many people want roy to stay or how many people want roy gone the bottom line is when he plays his tactics away from home they don't work it is as simple as that and they will never work its not like he is a young manager experimenting with the team to find the best formation.

he as had 35years to get his best formation and best tactics is that not long enough to test a set 0f tactics that do not work

he wants us to play like a blackburn or a fulham when he is incharge but we are liverpool we are a different animal to these clubs we deserve respect when we go to play but over the course of this season especially we are a laughing stock we go away from home and try to play a defensive formation trying to pinch a goal and then hold on. Why should we do this why not play the same as we play at home.

i never wanted roy from the start i wanted a young manager but the problem is roy was bought in when h&g were here then we was bought out so then we are stuck with him until nesv sort the club out.

i can never get around as to why this happened at the time should of had a caretaker then until january so why?

he took fulham to a europa league final that's all he did last year that im sorry but live in the now how did that warrant getting the best job in football.

it doesn't matter who we sign in january it doesn't matter who we sign in the summer with roy incharge the tactics will stay the same so the results will stay the same.

we need a change and that change as to be roy gone and a caretaker put in place until a new manager can be taken over

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12 Dec 2010 15:14:19
Raúl Albiol


great buy not getting in a real m (still clas)


versatility, as he can play as a central defender, right back or defensive midfielder.

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12 Dec 2010 15:14:08
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Personally I think it's time to cut our losses with Torres and if there is a sniff of us getting someone like A.Johnson in part exchange then we should go for it. I know people will try and shoot me down in flames for saying it, but Torres has not really performed this season, he's frequently injured and will be gone come the summer anyway. Swapping him for Johnson would be a really smart move and there is no way City are going to sell him to us unless we offered someone like Torres as bait. We could use the money left over to invest in another striker. top dollar for Lukaku?

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12 Dec 2010 15:13:17
{ed's note - I get sick of seeing first team players coming back from injury straight to the first team with no reserve team football to get fit. It is no wonder players have become too big for their boots - they think they are too good for the reserves.}

Totally agree with you Ed! The team MUST come first, and every player (including Torres) should have to fight for their place.

No player is bigger than the club!

PJ RED {ed's note - the only way they should get into the team is because someone currently playing is out of form. Perhaps Torres could have come in to replace Kuyt, and a shift in system to suit the players we have is needed. I like a 4-4-2 out of choice, but we have no wingers so we can't use it effectively. We need a more flexible system right now.}

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12 Dec 2010 15:12:35
I think it is surprising that people think Sotorius Kyrgiakos has ability , we know he trys but he is very poor .

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12 Dec 2010 15:07:01
I've realized that teams like Manchester United have spent their money so much more effectively than we have. We have spent SO much more money than they have and look where we are sitting on the table. In the last threoe years, instead of buying Poulsen, Keane, Konchesky, Benayoun, Riera, Skrtel, Voronin etc, we should have just bought DAVID VILLA.
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All those players weren't even signed in the same transfer window you do realise that?

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12 Dec 2010 15:02:34
Liverpool Rumours
Hello ed,

wouldnt it be great if we signed honda and sanchez, your two favourite players i recall, albiol, and suarez also to join and i'd be in heaven

ROUND ROBBEN {ed's note - if we can add real width in January I would be happy. It is stupid to persevere with a 4-4-2 system without real widemen.}

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12 Dec 2010 14:58:19
Lets stop papering over the cracks, Roy go off now, let some of the young lads in the ressies have a chance, Kuyt & maxi no pace, wonder why Torres walk around sulking when your supposed wingers can't cross the feckin ball also the twins that play at the back(konk & skertl) shud never pull on a red shirt again, lets stop the rot before it becomes to deep rooted, hope JWH listens to the fans as promised & makes the change, Joachim Loew or Owen Coyle get my shout.

YNWA

BIG RED CHIEF

Merry Xmas ho ho ho

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12 Dec 2010 14:51:57
What was with Woy and his face scrubbing antics? was he not believing we had gone behind to a toon side that showed more passion and fight than we did?

He needs to go and get someone in that can instill a work until the end ethic and stop wasting our time with we played well for 10 minutes rubbish.

If he goes now, it would at least give the new manager a couple of weeks to see the players we have before the January window, so they can see where we need strengthening.

Red4Ever

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12 Dec 2010 14:50:38
Rumour has it that failure to win the World Club Cup and Inter will fire Rafa. Just a thought, but I wonder if he'd be willing to return to Liverpool on a deal 'till the end of the season, effectively being in caretaker charge. If he gets us into top 5, and at least secures some form of european action for next season(god knows its looking unlikely under Roy) then the proviso could be there that he could get a longer contract to continue his work here, providing he'd be willing to work with comolli and the board, not having anywhere near the same level of control he used to have.

Being a euorpean manager, he is used to working in such a set-up. At valencia he famously said he asked 'for a table and they gave him a lamp'. But here, with NESV now at the helm, he might just get his bloody table.

Thoughts?

Moongoose.

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12 Dec 2010 14:47:38
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I really am having a problem with RH there does not appear to a plan B we are predictable and easy to defend against. We have no width pace or flair, players play out of position konchesky is not a better LB than Fabio Aurelio David Kelly should be in the side Ngogg cannot hold the ball up his saving grace i suppose is he shows more desire than Torres currently does.could somebody please tell me what "SHAPE" this team is supposed to have as i am mystified.i am a loyal liverpool fan and have been for 35 years but this is the worst liverpool team i have ever seen

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12 Dec 2010 14:45:53
Roy's tactic is the problem. .right now it doesn't take a top class manager to set tactics against liverpool. . a way to beat liverpool. .EASY. . just put pressure on them and they are done. . No element of "surprise", it's like easy to guess where the ball will be. .

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12 Dec 2010 14:44:01
I will not be watching another game until roy h has gone from liverpool
skirtle, kuyt, ngog need to go ASAP , as for poulson and konchesky "when you buy rubbish you get rubbish "
At this rate we will be lucky to finish 15th

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12 Dec 2010 14:38:45
Torres (definite) and NGog (maybe) would be scoring pretty regularly is they had some decent service. We have to stop passing the ball around the halfway line until we run out of ideas only to then pass it back to the defence to hoof it up!
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Excellent comment mate, well said.
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i second that torres made a number off runs but only got 1 decent ball how many crosses did you see come in from the wings at one stage kuyt and maxi were nearly standing on each other, I don't care what striker you have if you don't have service you'll score feck all and to say torres has a bad attitude i can recall a few times he was chasing down defenders.our defenders hoof the ball when we need to play the ball and play the ball when it needs to be hoofed.
I really do think torres cares for our club maybe hes feeling down just like the rest of us if we can't see anything positive maybe he can't, hes not a machine he is still a young lad, Roy is always talking about maxi's and kuyt's defensive duty maybe if the focused on attacking more we wouldn't be talking about this.
king henry

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12 Dec 2010 14:32:22
Lets all give Hodgson as break - On current form, Newcastle and Villa are very similar and we managed to play Villa off the park last week and, with the exception one very notable change (and, lets be honest, a Torres who could be bothered would / should have only strenghtened the team), the team was the same.

The tactics were the same, so why did we lose? - Being away from home is a factor, but it is still 11 vrs 11 - but was it? Did any of you witness the performance from Torres? With the exception of the first 10 minutes of the second half, he may as well not have been on the pitch and his lack to passion can only be halming the likes of Ngog, who will no doubt see him as a role model.

I am not a fan of Babel, but he must be sick to have been dropped after his performance against Villa, especially as his replacement did not show up - - again !

We need to stop excusing his performances on the back of his recent injuries - We are not good enough to carry a player and if he is not 100% fit, he should not be playing - Therefore, I am assuming he is fit, in which case he is quite frankly a disgrace.

This guy earns more in a week than I do in 4 years, yet if I performed as poorly in my job week in week out, as he does, I would be sacked.

Please don't talk about previous seasons etc. - You are only as good as your last game, which means Torres is Conference league standard, and the owrld class performances are now far too rare.

Sell him!

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Don't agree with selling him, but I agree with everything else. No player however good their reputation may be should be in the first 11 if they're not perfoming. You wouldn't put Messi in your first team if he had a broken leg would you.

I thought the standard practice for players returning from injury was to stick them in the reserves to gain match fitness and more importantly confidence. If I were Roy, Torres would be straight in the reserves. It would do him a world of good in my opinion. 1. He'd be tearing defenders apart, getting back on the scoring track. 2. The pressure would be off him meaning he'd be able to focus on getting back in form rather than focusing on why he's not.

Not only would it benefit the like of Ngog and Babel (who deserve to be our front 2 at the moment) it would send a message out to the team that noone's starting place is safe and any player that is not performing will be axed to the bench.

Ed and the original poster, what do make of my idea? {ed's note - I get sick of seeing first team players coming back from injury straight to the first team with no reserve team football to get fit. It is no wonder players have become too big for their boots - they think they are too good for the reserves.}

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12 Dec 2010 14:31:35
Rob Jones was class Ed He was unlucky with injuries. I just wanted him to score a goal , as his pace and touch use to get him in some great positions. Bring back Trigger.

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12 Dec 2010 14:22:00
Only just coming round after watching last nights shambles how the hell did we lose that match
Fist goal were was soto he should have had carrol
After we equallised we should have destroyed them but too many players didn't turn up, the only one who played half decent was the one we are getting shut of, Johnson, the rest are not worth a mention.
As a by line who gave that ref a prem badge he is not fit to ref a sunday league game poor decisions for both teams

TC

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12 Dec 2010 14:19:22
The diffence with Souness he did give youth a chance Mcmanaman, Fowler, Redknapp, they didn't save his Job.Souness might have got it right giving more time but he lost the fans respect over the article in the scum paper.Souness got rid of some players to soon and he replaced them with carp Stewart and Dicks bit of deja vu Poulsen Konchesky.Your right about performances, though Souness didn't play as deep.He lost the respect of the older players like Barnes Rush and Molby they didn't play for Souness.Injured Like Agger. {ed's note - you forgot to mention his signing Rob Jones, the best right back I have seen in my lifetime. Just to balance out anyone who wants to mention that Roy has bought well because he brought in Meireles.}

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12 Dec 2010 14:16:58
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I have it on good authority that Liverpool will be signing a player in January! A certain someone who has a birthday in the next 365 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . and was born on earth.

You heard it here first. I had it on good authority. My Aunties fitness instructer drinks in the local with a butcher who is married to a dog walker. She walks the dogs for an accountant who has currently been doing the accounts for an off licence. The owner of the off licence's brother told him that his daughters friends aunty was dating a teacher who was teaching a lad in his class who is the cousin of a certain professional waterskier and his wife is the sister of local priest. The preist heard it from one of his congregation. . .and you don't lie to a preist. FACT

Trig Diggler

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12 Dec 2010 14:13:26
TGFA

Try to guess its meaning

Keith YNWA

(clue: the 'A' is the first letter of the surname of a player at or club)

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12 Dec 2010 14:12:18
Its performances like the Newcastle and Stoke matches which remind me so much of the poor times during the Souness regime era.

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This is much, much worse than the Souness era. At least we tried to win games back then.

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12 Dec 2010 14:10:35
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A mate of mne who is a prem player, insists glen johnson will be sold in january due to his disruptive attitude/ lifestyle.If so give kelly a chance he has good attitude and has shown good ability.
My wish for xmas is for roy to do the right thing and go now and take along with him the dead wood from the club.

thats ok but Kelly is a centre back can fill in at right back and looks good, but that would leave us with no cover at right back if kelly gets injured? {ed's note - Flanagan is looking excellent in the reserves, Darby could be recalled (though I admit he is not the answer in the long term he would be capable of covering) and there are plenty of rumours of us having right backs watched.}


Darby's not that good , Flanagan mite be great but do you think Roy would play him? ? look whats happing at left back? if glen goes i take anythink over 15m for him but would need to bring in someone new as i want to see kelly playing centre back {ed's note - you can pick up a decent right back for a lot less than we paid for Johnson, if we get anywhere near our money back we could get a replacement and have money towards a winger.}

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12 Dec 2010 14:09:09
Apparently, the new owners have branded him a 'spoilt overpaid brot' and have been less than impressed with his attitude both in training and during some matches (who saw him yesterday live? - He was a disgrace - No effort, no flair and constantly blaming everyone else for his failings) - This, in line with his seemingly endless list of injuries, has made them decide to cut thier losses and sell, before his transfer value is affected significantly.

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This is complete carp. Why would the owners want to sell Torres? He and Gerrard are the reason why we dominate the replica shirt market. He makes us millions every year just for being here - you'd be very hard-pushed to find a striker more popular than Drogba and Rooney put together. Our owners would have to be crazy to listen to offers under £40m unless Barça decide to throw in Messi. If Ronaldo is worth £80m then Torres is at the very least worth the same, albeit it's very unlikely we'll get an £80m offer, unless Man City come in. Barça have no money so they can go and he's already said he's not going to another English club, so there's not a lot of places he could go.

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12 Dec 2010 14:08:27
Teams such as Bolton Wanderers , Sunderland , Newcastle and Tottenham Hotspur are all above us in the table playing 4-4-2 and if some of the teams below us playing 4-4-2 had the quality of player LFC have they would be above us , yet LFC continue to struggle with some of the best Premier League players in there squad .

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12 Dec 2010 14:05:19
No A young is crap

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12 Dec 2010 14:01:32
Any opinions on the possible managerial merry go round in the next few weeks mentioned in todays red tops. Benitez sacked by Inter Milan. Capello leaves England to become the new Inter Coach. Harry Redknapp becomes England Coach. Rafa becomes new Spurs manager. I think Redknapp even if he gets the England job will stay as Spurs manager until next may.

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12 Dec 2010 14:00:47
So question the the Eds

If we could have any manager in football today who would it be ?

LFC1 {ed's note - I don't know mate, that is a tough question and I can only talk about managers I know well. Maybe Joachim Loew or Owen Coyle, Pep Guardiola is another that seems to stand out as well.}

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12 Dec 2010 13:57:23
Liverpool Rumours
Ed. what buisness do you think hodgson will do in janurary? he has to bring in another striker, dosent he?

{Editor's Note: I think a wide player and a striker are likely.}

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{Editor's Note: I expect Insua to return so don't expect a left back.}

so we still need a left back then !

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12 Dec 2010 13:57:19
12 Dec 2010 13:49:31
I was watching Paul Dalglish on lfc tv alongside Roy Evans and David Fairclough. The lad is just like one of us.He didn't pussy foot about Roy Hodgson. Saying he needs to start managing us as Liverpool fc and playing to win every game.People who defend him need to look at his results and the way we play under him. For someone like me to have witnessed all the great teams, and not so great, from 1971, I have never seen a poorer defence. We have players not giving the opportunity to show what they can do.Roy as stated he will always play experienced players before potential.It is in my opinion his biggest failure and the reason he will lose his job.He is trying to tell the fans that his way is the best way to be successful. My message to him would be, we have seen success Roy and it wasnt won playing Alamo football.I have seen some great players and some bad players at Anfield.Konchesky would never be signed by a club wanting to win things.Lets get Kenny in to steady the ship till the end of the season he won't do any worse.and he will give the young lads ago to get Experience.They will not improve in the reserves.
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12 Dec 2010 13:55:55
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A mate of mne who is a prem player, insists glen johnson will be sold in january due to his disruptive attitude/ lifestyle.If so give kelly a chance he has good attitude and has shown good ability.
My wish for xmas is for roy to do the right thing and go now and take along with him the dead wood from the club.

thats ok but Kelly is a centre back can fill in at right back and looks good, but that would leave us with no cover at right back if kelly gets injured ? {ed's note - Flanagan is looking excellent in the reserves, Darby could be recalled (though I admit he is not the answer in the long term he would be capable of covering) and there are plenty of rumours of us having right backs watched.}

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12 Dec 2010 13:49:31
I was watching Paul Dalglish on lfc tv alongside Roy Evans and David Fairclough. The lad is just like one of us.He didn't pussy foot about Roy Hodgson. Saying he needs to start managing us as Liverpool fc and playing to win every game.People who defend him need to look at his results and the way we play under him. For someone like me to have witnessed all the great teams, and not so great, from 1971, I have never seen a poorer defence. We have players not giving the opportunity to show what they can do.Roy as stated he will always play experienced players before potential.It is in my opinion his biggest failure and the reason he will lose his job.He is trying to tell the fans that his way is the best way to be successful. My message to him would be, we have seen success Roy and it wasnt won playing Alamo football.I have seen some great players and some bad players at Anfield.Konchesky would never be signed by a club wanting to win things.Lets get Kenny in to steady the ship till the end of the season he won't do any worse.and he will give the young lads ago to get Experience.They will not improve in the reserves.

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12 Dec 2010 13:42:25
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Ref New Manager.

For me i would take a punt on Owen Coyle.

Done brillianty with Burnley.
Turned Bolton into a football playing team, which is no mean feat after years of dross from Fat man Allardyce and that useless terd megson.

Give this guy a chance and perhaps he may be the next Shankly.

LFC1

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12 Dec 2010 13:38:07
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Reading posts while sat on bog. (multi tasking) I have to say that there is more s##t on here than coming out my poo hole.
Can we have less dreamers & more facts please!

Gav The RED

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12 Dec 2010 13:38:03
It's panto season at Liverpool FC
Roy is doin his best impression of Aladin by rubbing his face and making 3 wishes, I wonder what wishes he wished for?

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12 Dec 2010 13:33:40
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Thanks Roy

Time to Go! ! ! !

I'm well pissed after travelling up to deluded geordie land to watch a fookin shambles, the game was there for the taking and what do we do? ? Play like a pub team.

Well Roy if this is "improving", i'm sorry it fkin aint.

We have never looked so disorganised and certainly would never have lost yesterdays game under the guidance of Rafa, Houllier, Evans and probably Souness.

LFC1

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12 Dec 2010 13:30:31
WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND BIG BIG MONEY (im talking like 60-80mill) TO EVEN TRY TO CHALLENGE the top 5! (Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Totenham.) We are way way way behind those five teams in terms of quality and squad.
All of those teams have better squads and players. Yes we may have 4ish world class players who would all get in their teams hands down. but besides them we are full of very very average players.
And our manager is very poor mentally, physically and tactically.
IT will change, but it has to be right now (this second) and not next season.
YNWA.

Harry5:)

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12 Dec 2010 13:25:57
Is it tomorrow where you can phone in to ask your questions to jwh. I couldn't find it so do you know what time it's on? {ed's note - 5pm UK time tomorrow.}

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12 Dec 2010 13:22:36
Sotorius Kyrgiakos is not capable of defending in any capacity , he has no business in the first team now we have Martin Kelly .

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12 Dec 2010 12:54:16
Agger is still injured ed do you think when fit roy will play him?

{Editor's Note: He will be available to be picked and it depends how he does in training.}

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12 Dec 2010 12:54:09
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Lets all give Hodgson as break - On current form, Newcastle and Villa are very similar and we managed to play Villa off the park last week and, with the exception one very notable change (and, lets be honest, a Torres who could be bothered would / should have only strenghtened the team), the team was the same.

The tactics were the same, so why did we lose? - Being away from home is a factor, but it is still 11 vrs 11 - but was it? Did any of you witness the performance from Torres? With the exception of the first 10 minutes of the second half, he may as well not have been on the pitch and his lack to passion can only be halming the likes of Ngog, who will no doubt see him as a role model.

I am not a fan of Babel, but he must be sick to have been dropped after his performance against Villa, especially as his replacement did not show up - - again !

We need to stop excusing his performances on the back of his recent injuries - We are not good enough to carry a player and if he is not 100% fit, he should not be playing - Therefore, I am assuming he is fit, in which case he is quite frankly a disgrace.

This guy earns more in a week than I do in 4 years, yet if I performed as poorly in my job week in week out, as he does, I would be sacked.

Please don't talk about previous seasons etc. - You are only as good as your last game, which means Torres is Conference league standard, and the owrld class performances are now far too rare.

Sell him!

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12 Dec 2010 12:36:09
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any truth in the rumour that liverpool have made a bid for suarez of ajax . this guy is top class , i hope its true
ngs77

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12 Dec 2010 12:32:14
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Morning ed, ref to REdrep18 if you know so much please inlighten all LFC fans who is picking these new players because it can't be Roy hes not going to be there according to you , so is the same person picking the team and formation week in week out if so we need to get him or them out and not Roy . comments welcome .psvelnino cheers ed

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12 Dec 2010 12:29:49
12 Dec 2010 10:13:33
To everyone who is slating our season, if you look at the stats, we are better off at this stage this season than at this stage last season, and better off than we were in Rafa's first season.
You cannot expect a manager to come in and turn it around in 2 months.
Proof of this over the years-
Ferguson struggled in first season at United
Arsenal have not won a title for 5 years, but play well, would you say they need a new manager?
Celtic are struggling despite having one of the top 2 teams in Scotland.

Judge Roy once hes had a chance to implement his experience on the squad. He didn't take Fulham to the Europa League Final in a single season did he. .

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You have a good point, but the major differences between Roy, Rafa, Ferguson and Wenger is that they all play good football and win away games - Roy doesn't and never has in his 35-year career. We complained Rafa was too defensive at times - Roy is now redefining our perception of defensive football.
And we hardly have a win in the greatest Champions League final ever to fall back on like in '05.
It's impossible to get Top 4 while only winning home games, never mind our long-term goal of winning the league.
Worst of all, this man has no backbone. He sits in his dugout and rubs his face while his team falls apart. He very rarely gives on-field instructions, he regularly shames the club with his ridiculous press conferences and, worst of all, is best mates with Rudolph the Red Nosed Manager. He refers to Whiskey Nose as "Sir Alex Ferguson" - come on, even Rafa had the t*lls to leave out the 'Sir'. Plus he's like a madman on the street, offering our star player and goalkeeper to Man Utd in press conferences.

There is NO chance on heaven or earth, that Uncle Woy could ever be manager of Liverpool next season.

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12 Dec 2010 12:28:54
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Roy has to go, always backed a Liverpool manager, but we are average, very average, away form is shocking, Torres has no faith in what Roy is doing, you can see it in his face, so who will be the next manager? opinions please. . oh and Barton should have gone yesterday for his comments to Torres.
el_kopite

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12 Dec 2010 12:25:23
Torres (definite) and NGog (maybe) would be scoring pretty regularly is they had some decent service. We have to stop passing the ball around the halfway line until we run out of ideas only to then pass it back to the defence to hoof it up!
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12 Dec 2010 12:25:00
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Liverpool make initial offer for Suarez? Would be a quality signing, can't see it happening though. What you think?
el_kopite

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12 Dec 2010 12:21:35
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Missed game and avoided higlights for obvious reasons! How did we play? usual roy away nonesense i'm guessing? ED, anyone?

Thanks Muzmacol

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12 Dec 2010 12:20:03
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Hi Ed surely u think that nesv have to realize that our players aren't happy playing under Roy and he has to go , they must sack him this side of Xmas , also I think Roy should resign he has to know that it's not gonna happen for him with us and what was he up to rubbing his face at 100mph yesterday if I were the owner I would have went down to the side line and put my foot so far up his hole that he'd be still hopping when he got down to the nurseing home seriously he has to go and if a new manager comes young confidant like jose without the badness then it's time for players to start showing there worth ie torres was really poor last few games no heart no fight like so many others Lucas is never gonna be good enough for lfc like so many of our players it's time to sack Roy and get kenny in to manage till we find a proper long term replacement

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12 Dec 2010 12:18:28
Barcelona thinking in sacking Pep Guardiola and replacing him with Roy Hodgson. They think that the face rub will bring the best out of their players.

P.s who is getting bored with the ''New manager, new players, new ideas'' excuse we always get when we lose.

And Roy, the second goal was not a ''comedy of errors'' as you put it, it was deeply concerning.

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12 Dec 2010 12:04:04
Has roy been sacked yet? ?

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12 Dec 2010 11:59:30
We can give opinions some are valid some are not, the bottom line is we need to take our goal scoring chances when they come.

samman.

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12 Dec 2010 11:53:47
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Roy Hodgson will be officially sacked as Liverpool Football Clubs manager on Monday 13th Decemb
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so that's when we have a press conference for the europa league game. 13th of december what a lucky day.

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12 Dec 2010 11:52:30
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I don't get the clubs thinking in sacking rafa and paying him 6m and then gettin roy hodgson in to have the same footballing philosaphy. Utter nonsense to me! The one thing that has got to be thought is that any potential signingwould obviously be watching games and assesing things. How many of these supposed targets would actually sign on recent performances?

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12 Dec 2010 11:45:26
Just a simple question about Tevez, he's on 200k a week. Why the h* k is his family still in Argentina? You think he'd have paid to to have them move over here or at least somewhere more convenient than Argentina!

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12 Dec 2010 11:34:12
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I had previously stated that we we're well stocked in centre back positions and had 4 good ones who could fit in at anytime. But last night Martin Skrtel was absolutely destroyed by Andy Carroll, and then got given the run-a-round by Nile Ranger! The sooner Daniel Agger gets fit the better for our season, as a partnership of Soto and Skrtel just is not up to scratch.
I also reinforce my point that Roy's tactics away from home are shocking. We equalised after a period where we had been on top (with half-time in between) and then sat back, we should have pressed for the second goal! Our defence dropped deeper, and with our current midfield set up, Torres and N'Gog were isolated. Maxi's influence in the second half dwindled and should have been brought off earlier than he did. In a way I was disappointed that we didn't keep the same lineup as Monday's team. It was one of our best performances of the season, and would have shown Torres that he needs to perform in order to keep his place. Babel would also have benefitted from the start, after a fine performance on monday.

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12 Dec 2010 11:31:14
"To everyone who is slating our season, if you look at the stats, we are better off at this stage this season than at this stage last season, and better off than we were in Rafa's first season.
You cannot expect a manager to come in and turn it around in 2 months.
Proof of this over the years-
Ferguson struggled in first season at United
Arsenal have not won a title for 5 years, but play well, would you say they need a new manager?
Celtic are struggling despite having one of the top 2 teams in Scotland.
Judge Roy once hes had a chance to implement his experience on the squad. He didn't take Fulham to the Europa League Final in a single season did he. ."
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In answer to the above drivel , about the made up stats mentioned , a simple google will tell you last season on 12-12-2009 we were in 7th position with 26 points and +11 (YES +11) goal difference, today we are 9th with 22 point and -1 (YES we are back in negative ) goal difference.

In Rafa first season on 13-12-2004 we had 26 points with +6 goal difference, and Rafa was left with a much worse squad that Roy have now.

That is the problem with most of "give Roy a chance" clan, you make up your own facts in your little heads and believe in them, you want stats/ facts how about that roy won less than 13% of his away games in the premiership, how about that Inter sacked him after a record 13 draws in a half a season, how about we only managed 1 win and 7 points out of 36 away from home .

And by the way we are not Fulham , we are expected to be up there first season or not .

I am really fed up with this give roy a chance tosh, because giving him a chance will leave us in the bottom half of the table. .

Roy

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12 Dec 2010 11:25:41
Liverpool Rumours
Guys enough is enough we are like paula abdul here, one step forward two steps back, Roy can't survive purely by winning every odd game. No club not even a top team like ourselves would put up with this. the season is almost half way and we are getting further away again. Time to put everyone out of their misery i.e Roy, Players and us fans we all deserve it at this point. Without using swear words yesterday at Newcastle was an utter disgrace, the possession was not great and as for going forward and having a cutting edge i've seen more invention on the dragons den. Only player to gain anything yesterday was Lucas again. Roy to the end of the season is absolutely pointless, to January is just as mad. Its got to be now and right now.

I believe there's a manager set up already, i doubt these american business men are would be so naive as to not have this in place. Roy cut his own throat with not signing even a loan striker or a wide man (a proper winger) and also with the boring boring negative tactics we are alien to here. Any other manager and i really mean ANY would have got more from us this season.

(getting back to the point - my rumour is steve mcmahon to return to club on coaching staff as a younger fire in the belly version of phil thompson)

So our song from the Kop v Fulham has to be Andrea Bocelli "Time to say goodbye" (roy)

believable for that huge but surely not needed hint to be sung.

phil (Belfast)

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12 Dec 2010 11:22:49
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Did anyone hear Roy's post-match interview yesterday?
"if we want to be a top half side then we must improve"! ! ! Hardly the vaulting ambition we want and definitely not in keeping with the new owners ethos. I expect things to change and quick. We are Liverpool fc and a manager who only has the top half of the prem in mind is surely not the right person to take us forward. Bring back king Kenny for the remainder of the season, Roy's already cocked this season up and it would be a good way to see if Kenny is still up to the job. Sooner rather than later as it would be a disaster to let Hodgeson loose with the cash, we'd end up with a team of Poulsons and Koncheskys. Mid table players for a mid table manager! !

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12 Dec 2010 11:17:24
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Man city might need a new striker, I say offer torres. He has lost his pace, his first touch and has missed 3 chances that I would score. He has had the supply last few games. I think he's lost it. I would sell him for 35 million + Adam Johnson. Torres doesn't even work hard anymore. Anyone agree?

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12 Dec 2010 11:07:40
Lads, don't know where the suprise element that Newcastle beat us is coming out off. Just look at Roys record of away games. It's truley disgraceful. Now, if i a fan am thinkinking going into a game that we are going to get beat, you can guarentee the players are thinking the same.

They know Hodgsons record, and have no confidence in his ability to set up a team away from home. Confidence and morale is a very fragile thing in the squad at the moment. At home they're let go out and play, the lack of confidence subsides because they know Anfield is good for them, hence why we see better performances. Its simple really.

Roy doesn't have the tactical guile, knowledge, body language or belief to win away from home. He's still living in the stone age with his approach. Whats the deal with moving the greek forward, who does he think we are, blackburn? And that thing of rubbing his face like a demented person, what kind of body language is that? kk

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12 Dec 2010 11:04:26
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Torres is not right at all. I know RAFA wasn't approachable as a boss but he knew Torres was his most potent weapon and he would discuss with torres how to destroy the oppositon defence. When the goal keeper would go down to ground etc. Ed do you think Roy has neglect preping Torres before games and just think well he is established he should do the business. The one on ones he is missing and yesterday chance against Newcastle are so unTorres like.

Kiddich

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12 Dec 2010 10:59:38
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Owen Coyle for manager. We've never won a league title without a scot in the team, but what about as manager!
Playing some great football at Bolton, and if their aren't any world class managers in the market then for me Coyle would be a welcome asset.

Lucas69

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12 Dec 2010 10:58:28
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I've realized that teams like Manchester United have spent their money so much more effectively than we have. We have spent SO much more money than they have and look where we are sitting on the table. In the last three years, instead of buying Poulsen, Keane, Konchesky, Benayoun, Riera, Skrtel, Voronin etc, we should have just bought DAVID VILLA.

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12 Dec 2010 10:58:02
Judge Roy once hes had a chance to implement his experience on the squad. He didn't take Fulham to the Europa League Final in a single season did he.
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No but his away form has been terrible 1 win in 20 odd away appearances fir fullham and Liverpool. If it was just one side you could blame the players but two sides. I bet if you checked his away form as a manager you would find a startling statistic. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. If any of us failed in our jobs 10 times you'd probably get fiired never mind 20 odd. Roys tactics are clearly wrong and the players know that. Everyone slating Torres at the moment saying he's not interested and saying sell him and get to good strikers. If you can tell me two good strikers anywhere in the world that would want to come and play hodgsons defensive system of clearing the ball and getting 11 men behind the ball rather than maintaining possession and playing to feet working it up the Field. Then fine sell him and get them two strikers, but I doubt you'll find any players worth having would want to come.and were now on borrowed time with the good players in our side and we could end up with the dross left over. The difference between Liverpool getting back I'm the mix at the top and staying as lower table side is on a knife edge at the moment and I'm just hoping it goes are way, but I gaurantee you if hodgson remains manager than are talented players will be off and I'm not just talking about Torres.

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12 Dec 2010 10:48:59
The 'turn around' that everyone is waiting for is taking as much time as an ocean liner .

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12 Dec 2010 10:46:40
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I have to sympathise with you fans about your liverpool team.
the way newcastle beat you by just pumping a ball up to caroll against 2 average defenders. and having the likes of sol campbell untroubled all game and basically an average newcastle team is EMBARASSING.

the question is. . . . why is your owner waiting? ?
what is this guy doing? do you think janaury changes anything?
i think liverpool are wasting a whole season. . you will keep hodgson. spurs and man city will improve and you can kiss a top 4 finish goodbye. .
its pure fact
dont u agree?

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12 Dec 2010 10:43:28
I can understand why you are all angry with the defeat at Newcastle but i don't see how you can blame Roy because its not his fault Torres can't score 1-on-1 with a rubbish goally and its not his fault that our defenders can't stop a simple ball when Barton scored. Judge him when he buys in January and after the Christmas period results as the team is now starting to gel, and when in the last 2 games we played well (Spurs and Villa) we were attacking so that's AN AWAY GAME WE WERE ATTACKING.

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A positive attitude is definately required , I realised that when I was called fickle for contemplating LFC without Roy Hodgson if he did not win the next game after a previous good performance . I since became the most optimistic supporter of Roy Hodgosn's management at LFC and to be fair this coincided with the recent upturn , however we cannot surely be expected as LFC supporters to become accustomed to such inconsistency , he has to sort out his away form debacle , no manager in the world is as controversial as Roy Hodgson's home and away form .

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12 Dec 2010 10:40:17
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Don't let your heads drop. We're Liverpool. You're playing for Liverpool. Don't forget that. You have to hold your heads high for the supporters. You have to do it for them You can't call yourselves Liverpool players if you have your heads down Believe you can do it and you will. Give yourself the chance to be heroes - Rafa at half time in Istanbul 2005, 3-0 down against AC Milan in Champions League Final, we went on to level it 3-3 and win it on Penalties. What has happened since then?

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12 Dec 2010 10:39:49
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I really thought we had turned the corner with the past three performances, Clearly i was wrong, it was the best possible time to play newcastle and we get battered. Nando doesn't seem to want to be there right now, he has miseed three clear cut chances that i think even myself could have tapped home in the last couple of games, as great as he has been for us, i would put him on the transfer list and start a bidding war!
I feel for roy in a way as he has to try and change a game when someone with a poor ability has to be subbed for another player who is somewhat sub standard. All in all i think with the youth we have bought and those we are supposidly looking at LFC may, just maybe a side to fear again in 3-4 years time. The current crop show signs of being close to competeing but inconsistancy will be a major downfall, i fear we are fighting for the final europa league spot again this year, champions league realistically appears to be a way off right now.

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12 Dec 2010 10:39:27
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HI ED i am personally fed up with our team none of them are good not 1 of them and torres well he is a joke at the moment the man wants to leave so we should let him go he obviously does'nt want to play with our team if anyones mad enough to pay big dollar for him because i would'nt his attitute stinks he is like a spoiled brat just because we don't have players he wanted us to sign he has decided not to try and that just shows the attitude of one of our players and if anyone else comes out and defends lucas who in my eyes is a pile of, kyriagkos our best player ha that's because he is trying his hardest and his level is just better than the other crap players level so that's how i judge the rest of our team kyriagkos is terrible, meireles what kind of signing is that i mean he is portuguese never played in a big league what is his role someone tell please he cannot shoot cannot pass cannot tackle mediocre konchesky rubbish what kind of fullback is he then no strength no speed cannot header the ball, cannot pass his marking is so bad that for instance if the manager asked him to man mark the great wall of china he would probably lose that as well, well and truely rubbish i could go on moaning and pin pointing players but to be honest the whole team apart from carragher and gerrard should be sold it may sound silly and naive but i tell u there is alot of deep rooted poor players in our squad all of them players apart from carra and gerrard, are lazy don't care for our club premadonnas and money grabbers and if theses so called great kids we are supposed to have are that good why are they not in the first team because the first team players are crap i mean i have watch pacheco on 4 occastions i don't think he is any better than the rubbish we already have and that go's for shelvey ha skinny no strength cannot pass, a weak right foot , cannot shoot all round poor, it must have been a parting shot from benitez to buy another pile of, spearing does he realise you can run with the ball you don't just have to get it and pass it straight away i hate the way you can hear is voice demanding the ball like he thinks he is souness or roy keane or something a complete joke, and martin kelly ha ha what a terrible player nothing better than championship do u remember dominic matteo well he was a better youngster than kelly and also in senior terms kelly will never come good just average.and people keep moaning about roy hodgson but i honestly believe that if jose mourinho or pep guardiola were manager they could'nt get these rubbish attitude players to beat a even more rubbish newcastle utd i mean i feel sorry for roy i don't hate him i just think it comes down to players look at the attitude of newcastle players they lost a manager that they loved and believed in and they worked hard and done there job for alan pardew so im sorry but i just don't think any of our players have heart or spirit they are just using our club for wage packet apart from gerrard and carra the rest are totally carp

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12 Dec 2010 10:39:17
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Hi all. Ihavent posted since the whole takeover shenanagance but iv heard a rumour that falcau is coming on loan in jan with the option of us buying him in the summer for 14 million. he is only 24 and i personally think he would be a savage stike partner for torres. . . . . all the best eds. . . . hope ya have a really red xmas. . . . .

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12 Dec 2010 10:38:15
Hodgson wasn't defensively minded yesterday. He brought on babel and jovanovic. They aren't defensive

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12 Dec 2010 10:36:19
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Look lads stop thinking about who we are going to sign in Jan, I can tell you its not going to happen.
Big names have been approached and they have said why sign for a club that is in reverse, under a manager who couldn't run a sunday league side.

Its a joke whats going on at anfield and players are upset by the lack of creativity from hodgson and he needs to go. . .

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12 Dec 2010 10:36:10
Kenny should be giving the reigns now, until the end of the season. Forget this he will lose the Legendary status he as with fans, as it is balls.He will not do a worse job than what Roy is doing till the end of the season.The players we have suit an attacking style of football.Kenny needs to put some pace in the defence Mavinga, Agger, Wilson , Ayala, Kelly. take your pick.We need teams to worry about us, go and have ago at teams, not worry about them attacking us.My shout is Kenny now!

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12 Dec 2010 10:35:38
Seems all we can do at the moment is dream . Picking up good results is one form of success but looking at the team , maybe there desperately needs to be an adjustment made in the form of a new striker to play with Torres (a target man or a pacey goal getter), 2 new wingers on either flank (with pace and technique) , a new centre back partnership (Martin Kelly and Daniel Agger) and better competition for the full back positions . If this is the major overhaul required of the first team what can be expected of the present group short term , bearing in mind there are still trophies to be won and Premier League places to play for ?

When Rafa Benitez lost 14 Premier League games in his first season , LFC still became the European Champions , and Losing 14 Premier League games is awful .

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12 Dec 2010 10:33:13
12 Dec 2010 08:28:35
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Ed. what buisness do you think hodgson will do in janurary? he has to bring in another striker, dosent he?

{Editor's Note: I think a wide player and a striker are likely.}

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{Editor's Note: I expect Insua to return so don't expect a left back.}

According to Steve hathersall they are only going to sign a central defender. Now I know no one knows what's going to happen but Steve hathersall is close to the club and knows allot of echo jurno's aswell

{Editor's Note: There you go then.}

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12 Dec 2010 10:27:37
I can understand why you are all angry with the defeat at Newcastle but i don't see how you can blame Roy because its not his fault Torres can't score 1-on-1 with a rubbish goally and its not his fault that our defenders can't stop a simple ball when Barton scored. Judge him when he buys in January and after the Christmas period results as the team is now starting to gel, and when in the last 2 games we played well (Spurs and Villa) we were attacking so that's AN AWAY GAME WE WERE ATTACKINGm
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12 Dec 2010 10:18:07
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I for one would love to see Rijkaard in the dug out but i read on here that he has been interviewed but his personal life got him a big no i also no that he has been shown around melwood by our best players so ed or eds could someone please tell me what he has done that's so bad that Liverpool can't look the other way for the sake of the club and hire a great manager with more contacts in football then rafa has had hot dinners and paul konchesky my dead grandad with his one leg and glass eye could defend better than that donkey bring back riise

ramy the red

{Editor's Note: I refer you to the earlier answer.}

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12 Dec 2010 10:13:33
To everyone who is slating our season, if you look at the stats, we are better off at this stage this season than at this stage last season, and better off than we were in Rafa's first season.
You cannot expect a manager to come in and turn it around in 2 months.
Proof of this over the years-
Ferguson struggled in first season at United
Arsenal have not won a title for 5 years, but play well, would you say they need a new manager?
Celtic are struggling despite having one of the top 2 teams in Scotland.

Judge Roy once hes had a chance to implement his experience on the squad. He didn't take Fulham to the Europa League Final in a single season did he. .

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12 Dec 2010 10:09:08
So tevez is homesick, 200k a week to kick a bit of leather between two sticks wtf is wrong with all these footballers get in the real world , our kid was homesick when he got 12 months in walton and he was only earning £6 a week, whats he gonna do when he realises no one in argentina is gonna pay him that much money, tell him when he gets back he has to join the army for 2 yrs like they do there and we will soon see how home homesick he is

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Regardless of why he isn't home, or the fact he is over here being paid vast sums of money, he has still been away from his family for 4 years, that's longer than most people serve when out in Afghan or Iraq. Fair enough he gets paid alot, but that's because people are willing to pay a lot to watch him, and he still has to be away from his family.

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12 Dec 2010 10:09:03
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Ed What if ancelloti gets the axe at chelsea . would he fit the bill for nesv for the successor of bloody idiotic defensive minded loser (roy hodgson) . and what do you think will there be any change in our managerial front anytime soon.?

{Editor's Note: I don't expect Ancelotti to be leaving Chelsea anytime soon - and equally, unless a better option does become available, I don't expect Roy Hodgson to leave Anfield until the end of the season. Manager's who are in work are unlikely to be tempted to move mid-season.}


Believable = ancelloti as our manager.
Unbelievable = hodgsons lovers.

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12 Dec 2010 10:06:10
The commentator even got it right yesterday (Waddle I think who said it) Liverpool struggle against teams who are willing to battle, they play better against the teams who play football or just wait to counter, because they are the teams that usually let you have the ball a bit without too much hussling in the middle of the park.
We need a bit more muscle in the middle, pace on the wing, A fit Daniel Agger and Kelly given his chance (like has been said on here many times). We need a manager who will give the players the belief and the hunger, and who will make them want to fight tooth and nail for every ball!

Torres (definite) and NGog (maybe) would be scoring pretty regularly is they had some decent service. We have to stop passing the ball around the halfway line until we run out of ideas only to then pass it back to the defence to hoof it up!

I thought Roy would at least bring us the organisation and discipline we need so much. But it is plaint to see he hasn't really got a clue. We beat Villa and the Hammers easily because they were so poor.

Skrtel looked Bambi yesterday, and Kyrgiakos can't cope with pace, or players he can't push around.

Unless a new manager can come in and get something out of these players and with a couple of good additions, there won't even be the Europa League for us next season!

Everyone who watches the game knows what type of players are needed, and even the most ardent Kuyt fan must realise that popping up with the odd "lucky" goal, and running his socks off just isn't what we need. He can't pass or control the ball and far too many moves break down because of him and we end up under pressure because of his mistakes.

Regards the RedSox, they haven't just spent 300 mill on two players, that is what they will pay them over the next 5/ 6/ 7 years, they signed as free agents. Liverpool and the Redsox are two seperate entities, what one does (wether good or bad) should not affect the other.

El Diablo!

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12 Dec 2010 10:05:24
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I steers MAY be happening as he misses Liverpool life I do know what I'm talking about I am very tight with a Liverpool player as I am his agent so I will try to get more information to you asap. Trust me. REDrep18

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And we all know not to trust agents, even if you are one, so unless you can quite a reputable source then we would struggle, even if we do hope you are right. .

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12 Dec 2010 10:03:59
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Its horrible to have to admit it, but we seem to take two steps forward and two back at the moment.
The week-to-week mix of good and REALLY bad results is confusing people about where the squad is really at, in terms of quality of performance and a possible top 4 finish. It's also saving Roy from the sack.
What yesterday does mean though is that after thinking once again that we had turned a corner and would now start to see a run of good results, we see another away loss. Only this time its a loss that could mean we have to accept that CL football next season is just not possible.
It would now take a miracle for City to slip up that badly and let us claw back ten points on them. And we are not improving anything like enough to think we can get those points from other teams we play. Even our defensive play is poor- supposedly Roy's strong point.
I hate to say it, but for example, just look at the goal difference of the current top 4. They are all a mile away from everyone else. I reckon those 4 are going to be the top 4 at the end of the season, and that City are going to be in the CL next year.
I'm not a City fan btw, although I don't hate them the way I do Ferguson's mob.
But how many of these crappy away results is it going to take before NESV realise that actually, a caretaker manager would be a better option till the end of the season? The season is over anyway in terms of getting 4th spot, so what is there to lose? Do NESV think Roy will get the team to play better in the Europa league or FA cup? Both competitions include 'away' games if I remember rightly. .

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12 Dec 2010 09:58:21
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I can understand why you are all angry with the defeat at Newcastle but i don't see how you can blame Roy because its not his fault Torres can't score 1-on-1 with a rubbish goally and its not his fault that our defenders can't stop a simple ball when Barton scored. Judge him when he buys in January and after the Christmas period results as the team is now starting to gel, and when in the last 2 games we played well (Spurs and Villa) we were attacking so that's AN AWAY GAME WE WERE ATTACKING.

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12 Dec 2010 09:45:40
So tevez is homesick, 200k a week to kick a bit of leather between two sticks wtf is wrong with all these footballers get in the real world , our kid was homesick when he got 12 months in walton and he was only earning £6 a week, whats he gonna do when he realises no one in argentina is gonna pay him that much money, tell him when he gets back he has to join the army for 2 yrs like they do there and we will soon see how home homesick he is,

I honestly couldnt agree anymore, Even the number infinity isn't big enough, Footballers need to live in the real world, Earn £200 a week working 9-5 onday to friday, Doing a job that bores you to tears, Then they'll realise what a bunch of over paid crying little idiots they really are.

And someone even said (Harry5) that torres has just had a baby his mentally not there, as if that actually is good enough a reason, What about adebayor suffered when his country came under gun fire, he still played well for his club, its absolutly embarrasing, Hence why i will NEVER say these new generation of footballers are hero's, Not like Bill Shankly He WAS

UCCM

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12 Dec 2010 09:45:07
Carlos Tevez would be the perfect partner for Fernando Torres and the perfect opportunity for NESV to announce their player recruitment strength .

{Editor's Note: I am afraid it can be no more than a dream.}

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12 Dec 2010 09:43:40
The 2 LFC centre backs yesterday were like the defence Houllier inherited , however he then signed 2 new centre backs , a major development required of Roy Hodgson I think . A new year pairing of Martin Kelly and Daniel Agger is the way forward of course requiring a brave decision from Roy Hodgson .

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12 Dec 2010 09:40:32
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Last night's performance was not reflected in the scoreline. We played some very nice passing football especially Lucas and Meireles. Raul looks the real deal. The biggest negative was how lost Torres looked, no burst of pace, no hunger for goal and then tried to pick a fight with that mug Barton. Bring in God to help him rediscover his form.

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12 Dec 2010 09:39:21
What a difference a game makes. People thought we turned a corner beating the mighty west ham and villa , Lucas one of best midfielders in the league. Rubbish I said and most people slated me, Lucas bosses the midfield they said. What happened yesterday? We are going no where under hodgson and if Lucas is one of our better players then what does that say about the club. Hodgson stays past Jan we loose reina, torres and maybe even gerrard.

LAVERS

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12 Dec 2010 09:38:29
Ed, if Hodgson were to leave relatively soon (i.e. before the jan transfer window) would the targets still be the same because of Comolli? {ed's note - I would guess so, mostly anyway, I am sure there would be a few that would drop out of consideration.}

Yes no Carlton Cole no Clint Dempsey no Charles N'zogbia no Gary Cahill.

And best of all a Bye Bye to

Paul Konchesky
Christian Poulson
Ryan Babel
Martin Skrtel

And more, When we get a new manager im gonna listen to Take That - Today this could be, The greatest day of our lives.

UCCM

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12 Dec 2010 09:22:14
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Liverpool started with 10 men last night as Torres certainly didn't turn up. What is he playing at at the moment as it is not football. Bad touch, poor passing and a bad attitude. If he doesn't want to be there we should get rid. Get as much money as possible or swap for a few players. Can't say he isn't getting the service now. Gazza

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12 Dec 2010 09:19:16
Carlos Tevez has handed in a transfer request , could NESV prove their commitment by signing Carlos Tevez - whatever the cost ?

{Editor's Note: It won't happen - and it will be nothing to do with NESV.}

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12 Dec 2010 09:15:52
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Ed's note - ''Rijkaard has already been considered and rejected, it is well known he held talks but it was decided his personal business was not a good thing to have round the club, so to speak. As for Hiddink, I very much doubt he could be persuaded to manage us, he doesn't want the day to day involvement anymore.''

I understand "this".
In this conditions who will be the new manager?
Owen Coyle? Rafa Benitez?

Or Roy Hodgson will remain 25 years like Alex Fergusson. .
unbelievable: 3000, believable: 0 (after me) :-)

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12 Dec 2010 09:05:16
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Calls for Robbie Fowler or Roy Evans as manager have been made before by several people. Quite rightly, someone pointed out the fact that Robbie does not have the required qualifications yet. Another option though would be to recreate the boot room system which served us so well. We have King Kenny, Roy Evans, Robbie, Ian Rush, John Barnes, Jamie C etc that could all do a role. Also Steve Heighway if he could be found! Anyone needing more badges can do them as an apprentiship

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12 Dec 2010 08:58:02
Felt sorry for Roy yesterday, I feel our football is getting better, and lets be honest apart from 20 minutes in second half we dominated that game, Torres missed a sitter , Ngog missed a free header as did Krygiakos, If we finished as we should totally different result

Jim

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12 Dec 2010 08:15:48
Purslow helped get rid of G&H. You simply cannot justify saying that about him.

Plus, Purslow is a Liverpool fan. I'm sure, like us, he knows
what players are a pile of rubbish.

yes i can broughton was the man who gave h&g nowhere to go as for purslow bein a fan what does that mean so is cilla black but we wouldn't listen to her either would we purslow was and is a man who forgot what he was put in their to do and tried to play god with our club and did so in the most complete wrong way

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12 Dec 2010 07:58:28
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What would really help this site is if folk actually read the previous posts before asking the same question again and again. Also. I think its time to stop slagging off people who post wild rumours. its a bit of craic and a bit of fun and nobody is an 'idiot' for doing so. I like reading the fantasy as much as the possible reality. If everything posted was the truth there wouldn't be much on here at all.

Roy. I was going support him. I was one of his major detractors but was willing to give him the chance. He looked like he was getting it together but. his lack of tactical ability has been shown up yet again and for me its over. The team plays one shape. one dimensional. He just hasn't got the ability to change a game at this level. He has to go.

Don't feel NESV don't see this. of course they do but they can't be seen to sack 'one of the boys' without giving him a chance. It might happen in Jan as that's when NESV could sack him and not be made out to be the bad guys.

I feel its clear now that even with decent players Roy can't cut the mustard. He's hardly going to fare any better with new recruits. He had adequate firepower on the bench yesterday and again went looking for a draw. Woeful. Nobody really wants to play for him when the chips are down.

Sad thing is. who else? Really there is nobody so I reckon we're stuck until the summer.

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12 Dec 2010 07:19:44
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Mad genius Jurgen Klopp to take over as manager at the end of the season after he's won the Bundesliga with Dortmund.
Red Herring

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12 Dec 2010 07:19:11
Why not marcelo loco bielsa for manager he just resigned at chile and he did wonders heard alot of clubs are after him

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ed opinion? {ed's note - I had completely forgotten about him, I loved watching Chile play under him. If he could bring that exciting, no fear, brand of football with him I would love to see him take charge. Chile were a pleasure to watch, it was proper, flowing, attacking football.}

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I am willing to learn Spanish if needed to understand anything he says. . . . .He will definitely give us an attacking brand of football. . . . I am sure every true Liverpool supporter will be willing to. . . . . . .

Pritam

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12 Dec 2010 06:48:13
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Looks like LFC have been beaten my Marseilles for the signature of coveted right back Rod Fanni.
Gibo.

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12 Dec 2010 06:05:29
Big Sami's left toe has more ability than our current back 4 put together. Oh how i wished he was our current defensive coach.

VM YNWA

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12 Dec 2010 04:40:14
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After I saw the Boston Red Sox sign both Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford, I knew that Liverpool FC will not be getting a big transfer budget in January.

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12 Dec 2010 03:49:59
Ed how come you guys will not spill the beans on Frank rijkard as to why he was not appointed even though some of the eds on here along with 'macca in the know' are all saying that he was spoken to and turn down. Why was that?? Can we finally put this to bed please

{Editor's Note: sometimes it is inappropriate to publish certain information - this site prides itself on avoiding gossip, anything potential malicious, foul language etc..}

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12 Dec 2010 03:38:14
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Now that we are in december, the statistics are stacking greatly against roy hodgson , which leaves the owners baffled how the team without key players, such as gerrard, and torres can win 3-0 and the away games just go from bad to worse with todays defeat. the situation is now becoming critical with the chance of a fourth place finish this season slipping away, along with the place in the champions league and the purse that goes with it!
thus the owners are starting to regard hodgson as a liability and will step up to the task of replacing him as soon as possible, but considering a temporary replacement until the right man is singed up!

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12 Dec 2010 03:30:07
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Hi ED i've seen kun aguero has just signed a new deal with A.Madrid which is costing them 5.8 million euros a year, making him the highest paid player at atletico. two questions:

with the economic problems surrounding spanish football is this a substantial burden for A.Madrid to be taking on?

and

Do you feel this is just to push his price up in the following tranfer windows?

Its no secret he is a liverpool fan i just feel the quicker we try and get him the better, him and torres would be a leathal strike force.

cheers

{Editor's Note: It was a solution that suits Atletico as it is considerably less than what he was looking for. I don't know if the true contract details have come out yet. He will not be moving to Liverpool.}

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12 Dec 2010 02:49:46
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As much as i like Hodgson as a person i have to finally agree with most that he has to go.We seem to take one step forward and two steps back when we have the chance to move up the ladder.I don't think that he realises that he is no longer at Fulham.It is unacceptable to be in the position that we are in, and there seems to be no 'hair dryer' discipline in his repetoire.He has come out this week stating how good he is that he kept the likes of Babel, Ngog, Maxi, Kyrgiakos and Lucas."he fed me the information.I listened, of course, but made it clear i was not going to act on it." and "what a good job we didn't do these things because the boys have turned out well" Now it seems that he is so happy with our squad that we need patience rather than new players."If they want to invest lots of money and we find the right players i am not so stupid as to say not to do it.My message would be - and i have spoken to John Henry about it - if the right players become available and we think they can push us on, we shouldnt hesitate.But i shouldnt be encouraging them to throw a lot of money at it straight away" And this is the man who said we could now compete with Barca, Inter and Real when it came to transfers.We are liverpool fc not fulham.We have to get rid of the likes of Ngog, Babel, Kyrgiakos, Konchesky, Poulsen, Maxi and maybe even Lucas if we are to be realistic.Barrios, Aguero, Hummels, Young, Turan, Hazard, Defour, Lukaku, Sanchez, Luiz, Cardozo, Contreao, Kaka, Dzeko, Gomez, Osvaldo, Rossi, Soldado, Subotic, Gervinho, Sahin, Bastos, Gignac, Pogrebnyak, Llorente, Pastore, Bent, Forlan, Hamsik, Lavezzi, Vucinic, Mata, Keissling, Navas, Taiwo, Banega, Rami, Payet and plenty more top players are realistic targets.If it works at Barca, inter, real, man u, chelsea and even the red sox, then it will work at Liverpool.

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12 Dec 2010 02:10:52
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Why not marcelo loco bielsa for manager he just resigned at chile and he did wonders heard alot of clubs are after him

agree yes disagree no
ed opinion? {ed's note - I had completely forgotten about him, I loved watching Chile play under him. If he could bring that exciting, no fear, brand of football with him I would love to see him take charge. Chile were a pleasure to watch, it was proper, flowing, attacking football.}

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12 Dec 2010 01:15:55
So tevez is homesick, 200k a week to kick a bit of leather between two sticks wtf is wrong with all these footballers get in the real world pricks, our kid was homesick when he got 12 months in walton and he was only earning £6 a week, whats he gonna do when he realises no one in argentina is gonna pay him that much money, tell him when he gets back he has to join the army for 2 yrs like they do there and we will soon see how home homesick the fecker is,

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12 Dec 2010 01:12:37
What was with the face rub woy done in the second half anyway we may be able to beat teams who roll over at anfield but iam yet still to see any improvement woy has brought io the team.another thing that disgusted me today was that woy said he was given a list of who to get rid of when he joined the club by that tit purslow who the f*ck does he think he was thanks for the legasy you left purslow you w* ker

kopman
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Purslow helped get rid of G&H. You simply cannot justify saying that about him.

Plus, Purslow is a Liverpool fan. I'm sure, like us, he knows what players are a pile of rubbish.

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12 Dec 2010 00:58:43
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Hi ed
think we need a good clear starting from the top. new manager.
majority of players need shipping out too. .starting with torres. is attitude is appauling, us fans took him to our hearts, utd away springs to mind locked in after we got beat and still sang his song none stop. and he treats us supporters who pay is wages like this. he has sulked none stop all season. if he don't wanna play for this club let him go, use the money to buy 2 strikers who do. .
we need LB CB LW 2 ST, and many more, gerrard won't be here for many more seasons now. . and to me the only real quality player we have after him is reina. .

last season i said if we didn't qualify for the CL we was finished. we have to step back now, start all over again, and build ourselves back up there. And i feel we need to do this with a full overhaul of the squad and promote some of these exciting youngsters we do have. they cannot do any worse than the trash we are watching. . eccleston least wants to play for the club. amoo has pace and power. . what other player on the wing has this. .

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12 Dec 2010 00:45:35
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Roy just has to go.

I cannot believe that there are so-called fans who prefer to lay the blame at the feet of one of our all time greats - Fernando Torres, rather than at the clueless oaf who is in charge of our club.

Fernando, along with Gerrard and Reina, are the only world class players we possess. Any coach/ manager worth his salt would build his tactics around these 3 and play to their strengths. What does Roy do? Play a neanderthal style of football that is anathema to all 3. Reina is told to hold onto the ball, rather than launch the quick counter attacks that he is so effective at. Gerrard is told to stand off, rather than play the high energy pressing game which he is so adapt at. Torres is a player who terrifies defenders when running at them - he needs a high tempo pressing game to create the space and opportunities that he thrives on. Instead, he is expected to lead the line and make countless wasted runs as ball after ball is hoofed up to him. This will never get the best out of any of these players. I've seen Carlton Cole mocked on this forum - believe me, he would do well here as that is the abject style that we are reliant on. We would be much better with a big lump up the top of the pitch, as that is how Roy sets up to play.

Any manager with half a brain would adapt his approach to maximise the talent at his disposal. Instead Roy is insistent on the players adapting to his dull, negative style and it is just not going to work with the quick, skillful players that we have.

He simply has to go. The sooner the better. Tomorrow preferably - so we can get someone in who will set us up to make the most of the talents that we currently have. This has to happen soon before those said players seek pastures new, because they undoubtedly will, if they are subjected to this tosh much longer.

Come on FSG - do the right thing and put Roy (and us) out of this despairing misery.

Believable - Agree, Unbelieveable - Disagree

Kopite

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12 Dec 2010 00:39:09
Liverpool Rumours
Have just been looking on s* tty site, and someone there reckons they have seen plans for torres to go to s* tty and swp and bridge 40mill to come to us, i thought don't make me laugh ive got an abscess, jimmybosun

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12 Dec 2010 00:37:13
Liverpool Rumours
Only just got online since the result in newcastle, , , aaaaaaaaggggghhhhhh i really am begining to hate liverpool, , hate saying it but i really am we can't just blame hodgson its the players too, there all so crap when we play away its like something in there brain switches when weplay away, my god why don't they just play as if they r home team. .things need to change fast, cos if we don't make top 4 this season then we r gunna be a mid table team for years to come

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12 Dec 2010 00:33:02
Liverpool Rumours
What was with the face rub woy done in the second half anyway we may be able to beat teams who roll over at anfield but iam yet still to see any improvement woy has brought io the team.another thing that disgusted me today was that woy said he was given a list of who to get rid of when he joined the club by that tit purslow who the f*ck does he think he was thanks for the legasy you left purslow you w* ker

kopman

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12 Dec 2010 00:31:27
Liverpool Rumours
People seem to know everything- -what's going to happen. But me, I don't know anything goddamnit- -I just want my Liverpool saved. Please. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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12 Dec 2010 00:27:29
Liverpool Rumours
Ed i know that tevez is homesick and wants to go bk home, but do you fink there is a slight chance of him cumin to us? ?

Yes if he was born in Liverpool, that's what i FINK

{Editor's Note: Not a chance.}

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12 Dec 2010 00:22:40
Ed, you rate thomas ince? you see his goal for notts county today, awesome.

{Editor's Note: i have not seen the goals - but reports are good.}

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12 Dec 2010 00:21:29
12 Dec 2010 00:07:48
Roy does not like playing youth, well done to ranger from newcastle made our defence look stupid and how old is he?18, stay at newcastle son you will be a legend, if you had joined liverpool you would not have got a game till your 28, jimmybosun

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Nile Ranger is very average, Torres's newborn baby could've made our defence look like idiots. The only reason Skrtel seems to be played is because he looks like something out of a horror movie, you could also make the same case for Konchesky. Hmm.

Perhaps Roy is reuniting the Monster Squad to fight off evil centre-forwards.

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12 Dec 2010 00:07:48
Roy does not like playing youth, well done to ranger from newcastle made our defence look stupid and how old is he?18, stay at newcastle son you will be a legend, if you had joined liverpool you would not have got a game till your 28, jimmybosun

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12 Dec 2010 00:01:44
Does anyone know why frank rijkaard was turned down? think he would be fantastic.
big steve177

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