Liverpool Banter Archive April 12 2012
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12 Apr 2012 23:50:03
If Damien Comolli isn't all that great at his job. Then who was responsible at Tottenham in for players purchases in 05/06/07 season.
up to 03/04 season Alan Sugar was in charge and he was useless. Then he sold Tottenham.
In Season 05/06 they bought Dimitar Berbatov, Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Aaron Lennon, Tom Huddlestone
Season 06/07 Younes Kaboul, Gareth Bale, Adel Taarabt, Darren Bent, Pascal Chimbonda
Season 07/08 Luka Modric followed by alot of poor signings.
Season 08/09 was another very poor season of expensive signings.
Harry takes over.
But their squad is build on the young player bought in 05/06/07
And what have they won?
They are only hanging onto fourth place by goal difference and have only earned 6 points from the last six games which is worst that us, so what is your point?
I hope we are in a better potion than that after 6/7 years of rebuilding!
MR EM
Spurs have a handful of quality players:
Modric, Bale are first rate
Parker, VDV, Adebayor, Friedel are very good
Lennon, Assou-Ekotto, Walker are good but could be improved upon
Take out Modric and Bale and Spurs are a mid-table team. Add a couple more of their quality and they're title contenders
Red Ollie
12 Apr 2012 23:49:44
If John Achterberg really got the sack who do you think would replace him as goalkeeping coach?
Xavi Valero? Ray Clemence? Jim Stewart (Rangers)? {Ed001's Note - Valero is still under contract, I would hope he will just be brought back personally. It was a huge mistake to alienate him.}
Didnt he join Benitez at Inter, when he left?
12 Apr 2012 23:46:05
Johan Cruyff - could it be true!!
Any info welcome folks!
BJH YNWA.
12 Apr 2012 23:32:08
On a lighter note, I visited town today and went in the club shop WTF are they doing selling bloody foam fingers?? we are Liverpool fans not the audience from Gladiators in the 90's, please don't take these on sat we will look like a bunch of muppets, they are also trying to shift raul mirelles water bottles, good luck with that!
We might get him back
It's ironic that we still have Meireles water bottles as he was only ever a water carrier
Red Ollie
12 Apr 2012 23:18:02
Hi Eds and fellow posters. So Comolli and Brukner have gone, Achterberg has supposedly gone, is there anyone else we can expect to be moving on in this clear out?
RedSG
In-house lawyer, Natalie something-or-another, is leaving.
I have heard on the grape vine they are following Fulhams suit and getting some organic chickens in and sacking the headless ones that have been running amok on the pitch lately
12 Apr 2012 23:05:48
Support the team. Support the manager. Support the club. Sick to death of the lot of you moaning and bleating about everything from tactics to playing staff. You're a bloody disgrace to yourselves and the reputation of LFC. Get your act together or get off, I don't care which. Support our team through thick and thin. End of.
Red Heart
Nicely said Red Heart!
JayB
And while I'm at it, stop this 'KK' or King Kenny malarkey. It's Dalglish like it was Paisley and Shankly. There's so much rubbish spouted on this site it beggars belief. My first view of Liverpool that made them the team for me was seeing Charlie George score that goal in the 71 FA cup final; I would've been better off carrying on playin'
Damn this iPad. I meant to finish by saying I'd be better off playin' in the street rather than being transfixed by those red shirts, but they stole my heart and no matter what happens on and off the pitch, nothing changes, to me Liverpool are the greatest team in the world and no defeat, change of player or manager will ever change that.
Sorry for the fractured rant.
Red Heart
Entitled to your rant like others are entitled to their opinions.
If you don't like it, why don't you 'get off' ?
Ta...
I agreed with support the club. If people dont think the manager is the right man for the job or the players arent fit to wear the shirt then they have a right to speak out.
"i love Athens too much never to criticise it"
- Socrates
Plato
12 Apr 2012 22:42:34
Hi Eds any chance that Commolli deoarture might pave the way for KK to move into his role and the club could appoint a new manager.I hope not but seems that moneyball method does not quite work in football but the players he helped bring into the club might need to take a hard look at themselves and owe him and KK better performances . {Ed001's Note - arghhhh!!!! What is this Moneyball nonsense????? It is not being used, will people cut it out. There is no 'moneyball' in footie, it is not being used at Liverpool, it is not relevant.}
All football clubs use moneyball in some way. How else will a football club quantity a players ability. Pro Zone, Opta Stats all have contracts with premiership clubs. They measure player movement, crosses, tackles, passes ect.
Stats are needed in football to judge a player. {Ed002's Note - None use it - it is specific to baseball.}
12 Apr 2012 22:25:49
I hear FSG arent done yet. They are looking to sack a portion of the clubs supporters for not doing their job
I don't care they paid me nothing to begin with
Paying them inflated prices for rubbish football.lol
I will take them to tribunal if they sack me
tel 1949
There a few guys on here getting their p45s
12 Apr 2012 22:29:08
Wayne Rooney mentioned as best English player by one imparticular poster before?
Not being funny but what?
Rooney is a great player, no one can deny that, but he isnt the best English player by a mile. I dont like the guy but John Terry is immense. Ashley Young is creative, but goes off the boil now and then. What about Gerrard as a Liverpool supporter? To be fair to the guy Owen Hargreaves could do no wrong in an England shirt just a few years ago. Ashley Young is one of the most consistent Left Backs in the world. Wilshire and Huddlestone are upcoming superstars in CM.
Huddlestone?? Hardly as good as wilshere
Normally people go by best strikers in national teams or AM players. Rooney is a goal scorer and at the moment is the best English player in the national team. David Beckham was other.
Ashley Young is a Left back?
Huddlestone is now 25, doesn't really fit the criteria of 'upcoming' and certainly no 'superstar'.
Mr controversy
I mentioned rooney as the best english player around. But if u read my post carefully, i also mentioned that a gerrard in his mid-twenties was a better player than shrek is now. Wilshere is a good player, but we have to wait and see how he performs over a number of years. ashley young is too inconsistent, n huddlestone is at best a squad player.
Indian Buzzer
12 Apr 2012 22:03:05
Hello,
Aside from rumours, new kit next season with warrior as sponsors, do you know whether it'll be a complete overhaul or just a little change with the logo?
also i was just thinking, do you remember we tried to swap Carroll for Tevez in January, you never know that the owners may be willing to spend big money
12 Apr 2012 22:00:03
Ed why do liverpool always do things like this today out of the blue right before a big game? I don't know why this couldn't wait until Sunday. {Ed002's Note - The timing is not ideal, I agree.}
The players don't know what day it is let alone who or what a dof is
Co
Just FYI, I heard that they had intended to wait to Monday but the press had gotton hold of the story and were going to break it themselves, so LFC went ahead and broke it for them.
Cheers
JJ
I dont know what a dof is. Whats a dof?
cozinoz
12 Apr 2012 21:58:35
Kenny Dalglish is the only one who has stuck his head above the parapet this season !
He has taken all the **** on his shoulders.
Yes, he's messed up at times.
But he's stuck up for the under-performing players, for Suarez, for the fans, and for Comolli today.
There's no doubts in my mind about Kenny Dalglish's commitment to Liverpool FC.
I can't say the same (yet) about FSG.
They've not exactly covered themselves in glory with the Comolli appointment and now 'mutual parting'.
And where's the stadium issue at ?
And what happens now, another Director of Football ?
I for one am not forgetting the last lot we had from over the pond.
I'm not saying that FSG are in that category. But it's them on trial here, not Kenny Dalglish.
The Real KB
Nobody doubts Kennys commitment KB. I think when people criticise they are questioning his suitablility.
Nevada
The Real KB, keeping it real! Love it!
K. Bennett
I'm with you all the way KB, the more I read about these owners, the more it concerns me. The transfer policy's eye wash and has contributed to a clutch of players providing limited balance in the team.
The owners seem obsessed with resale value. Do they want resale value on the balance sheet to enable future leverage?
Every aspect of Kenny's approach to his task has been spot on. He's defended the players and has dealt with certain quarters of the media with the contempt they deserve. If Kenny isn't allowed to at least see out his contract it will be a travesty.
We were tearing teams apart at the start of the season and we've played some of the best football this season that I've seen for years. How can people even contemplate questioning Kenny?
Ozone {Ed001's Note - you really need to stop reading crappy media lies, then you might not waste our time with ridiculous whines about resale value! It is utter nonsense. Instead go back to the policy put in place by Shanks, young players to be moulded to the club's style of play. That was the policy then and that is the same policy now.}
Changes today show fsg are here for long term and not looking for a quick buck
Ed / Ozone,
Do we need a Director of Football to do that then ?
What's all that about ?
And, for me, FSG will rise or fall on their ability to deliver with the stadium / re-development. Cos that seems to have gone dead.
I am not really seeing any grand strategy at the minute from them ed.
The Real KB {Ed002's Note - How many clubs have a "grand strategy"? }
Got to admit, the stadium issue is dragging on a bit, although Macca did hint we were staying at Anfield, but nothing from the owners as of yet!
Keith
I was being facetious, just for a change ed002. Lol.
But the football scout / transfer / hands-on Comolli has gone.
Now there's talk of Dein. Is his strengths not more of the finance / business side of things ?
And will FSG, as you think they may do ed, move Kenny out ?
A complete change of key personnel then ?
That would say more about their abilities, I would contend. I thought it was supposed to be about bringing stability ?
The Real KB {Ed002's Note - Dein would not be doing anything with scouting or anything that closely related to football in the way that a Cruyff, for example, would. Dein is as you say primarily a business man - I doubt he even owns a track suit.}
Exactly ed002.
So what the feck is going on ?
What direction are FSG going in with this DoF thing ?
And the timing (or have they got a replacement already lined up) ?
And my shiny new seat in a new stand ?
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - I believe Dein is being lined up to play a completely different role to the DoF.}
Are we moving into real estate deals.
12 Apr 2012 21:57:39
Hi eds and and fans, my take on all this is the owners have seen the underperforming squad, and like all of us know that comolli is a position not really needed, because it still did not make us sign better players. When pool were successful before we never had a director of football, so he was really a waste of space.
Obviously they have invested money and they want success and profit and they probably think the positiond they have sacked these people from today need a revamp to get new blood in with new ideas and freshen up things in anfield. I think KK situation will be looked at at the end of the season obviously they do not want to upset the players and everything to do with the first team now it would be silly.
They are simply trying to see who is not useful at pool replacing them if need be or getting rid. Comolli in my opinion did not eally do much, so well done to the owners.
what is your take eds?
hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - Rather different.}
It's clear cut, Commollis been the fall guy for the owners nonsense transfer policy and their obsession to get a 'good deal'. They employed Commolli to 'unearth little gems'. Accordingly Commollis been trawling around the globe trying to pick pocket football clubs of their perceived talent. The problem is that the transfer criteria has got in the way of building a balanced team (Henderson being played on the right), why not buy a natural right winger in the first place? Martin Jol had the same problem with the Commolli acquisitions at Spurs. However it isn't necessarily Commollis fault, he's been constrained by his brief. FSG need to identify the fact that if we need a right winger to provide the right balance in the side but there isn't one available fulfilling thief transfer policy nonsense, then they need to stump up if they have aspirations of putting us back in our rightful place as they keep telling us.
Ozone {Ed001's Note - erm you are simply wrong. That is why Comolli has been removed, his brief was to identify the weaknesses in the squad and then strengthen them. Stop whining about transfer policies that you don't understand. Comolli was meant to fill the gaps and he didn't. Hence why Hendo is on the right, rather than buying a right winger. The fault was his, just the same as it was at Spurs, Arsenal and St Etienne.}
Ed002 what did you mean by rather different, could you elaborate please, thankyou.
hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - I don't have time now - remind me tomorrow.}
Why didn't liverpool take the risk on sick-note players like Sylvain Marveaux. We wanted him but he failed a medical so went to Newcastle or Demba Ba who has the bad knee and is on a pay as you play deal. {Ed002's Note - Marveaux turned down a revised contract from Liverpool - not the other way around.}
If Comolli hadn't managed the mass clear out at the end of the season. He would of been sacked then. In the clear out we lost Raul Meireles. A player that most of our fans think was the glue that made the team click into life. Even if he managed to get a Right Winger in he wouldn't been able to afford the wages.
Towards the end of that end, all we where concerned about was balancing the wages.
Meireles?..."A player that most of the fans thought was the glue that held the team together"....what an absolute pile of sh!£e !
ANFIELDPETE {Ed001's Note - I thought everyone knew he was rubbish in all but 4 games? Those that actually watch the full match rather than MOTD I mean.}
Who exactly thinks Meireles was "the glue that made the team click into life" (whatever that even means)?
Red Ollie
I thought Meireles was the twig who often made the tree fall
cozinoz
12 Apr 2012 21:55:45
hey eds any chance in benitez taking comollis role, i strongly doubt it but he does love liverpool and supports them {Ed002's Note - I also doubt it.}
12 Apr 2012 21:55:25
Here, we look at the players brought in during Comolli's time at Anfield.
1st Deal:
Transfers Out
Ryan Babel £5,800,000
Fernando Torres £50,000,000
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£55,800,000 players out
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Transfers In
Luis Suarez £23,000,000
Andrew Carroll £35,000,000
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£58'000'000
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Honestly I think he managed to get ride of two under-performing players in Babel and Torres. Torres is now Chelsea problem and Ryan Babel gave us Rooney BBM pin.lol. Regardless of carroll's price. The deal was good because we managed to get Luis Suarez in and he did perform.
Luis Suarez - £22.8million
The Uruguay striker joined the Reds from Ajax on the last day of the January transfer window in 2011. He has been one of Liverpool's greatest goalscoring threats on the pitch.
Torres Sold £50m(Andy Carroll - £35m makeweight)
Eclipsed Suarez as Liverpool's most expensive player on the same transfer deadline day but has enjoyed limited success on the pitch since making the switch from Newcastle.
Andy Carroll won't be ready as a player until he hits his late 20's, 28 will be his best season. Target men mature later.
Summer Transfers: Comolli 2nd set of deals.
Out:
Tom Ince Free
Chris Mavinga £1,000,000
Gerardo Bruna £750,000
Paul Konchesky £1,500,000 LBK
Emiliano Insua Free LBK
Daniel Ayala £800,000 CBK
Sotirios Kyrgiakos Free CBK
Christian Poulsen £1,000,000 DM
Joe Cole LWING
Alberto Aquilani CM/A
Raul Meireles £12,000,000 AM
David Ngog £4,000,000 STK
Milan Jovanovic Free STK
= 10 first team players out
= wage bill is under control
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in:
Doni GK
Jose Enrique LBK
???????LBK 1
Sebastian Coates CBK
????????CBK 2
????????? DM 3
Stewart Downing LWING
Henderson RCM
Charlie Adam AM
Craig Bellamy STK
>?????? STK 4
Jordan Henderson - £16m
The England Under-21 international moved from Sunderland to Liverpool in June 2011. Stats said he had a great year previously. Met the English quota rule. Sunderland best young player of the season. but has struggled to make an impact in the side. Maybe positionally isn't allowed to play. The player likes to play in the center and move forward. He doesn't have a DM player covering him at times.
Charlie Adam - £7.5m
The Scotland midfielder made the switch from Blackpool to the Reds in the summer of 2011 and has created a solid midfield partnership with Steven Gerrard. Blackpool's most creative player, but his lack of defensive understanding has let lfc down at times.
Stewart Downing - £20m
Completed his move from Aston Villa to Liverpool in July 2011 and is still to score his first Premier League goal for the Merseyside club. Statistics told comolli he was a very creative crosser of ball, but failed to tell him the quality of ball being delivered into the box.
Alexander Doni - Free
The Brazil goalkeeper became the third signing under manager Kenny Dalglish when he moved from Serie A club AS Roma but is notable only for his sending off against Blackburn on Tuesday.
Jose Enrique - £7m
The left-back joined the Reds from Newcastle in August 2011 and has been a success in the Liverpool defence. Bring in from newcastle, had some very good defensive statics, but was lacking attacking assists.
Sebastian Coates - £7m
The Uruguay defender joined Liverpool from Nacional shortly after Enrique but has only made a handful of appearances. Scored his first goal in the 3-2 defeat against QPR last month.
Craig Bellamy - Free
Returned to Liverpool from Manchester City on transfer deadline day last summer and has made a useful contribution of nine goals.
7 players in to a very under strength football club.
10 players out in the summer to balance the book. Liverpool season has stalled because they are lacking at least 4 squad players. FBK, RWING, DM, STK that should have been purchased in the summer.
Now the boardroom can not afford to purchase these players. You can not blame Comolli. Maybe the brief should have been to purchase English, Utility players. A player that can pick up more than one position on the pitch. Our Squad is too fin at the moment to continue to challenge for games.
January's lack of transfer activity showed us how poorly the management of the club are running things. Liverpool chairman Tom Werner knows how not to spend. When Fenways sports bought the football club for 288milllion. They knew that they had bought a very under valued football club that needed inwards investment in playing staff.
They can try to pull the wool over the supporters eyes, but the truth is they have under invested in playing staff.
Summer net spend came to £35,350,000 which is the moment of money given to us from TV rights at the end of the year. Or the amount that Tom Hicks would of spent on interest payments.
Now the truth of the matter is, that no inwards investment has come from Fenway towards player purchases and also no money has come in for stadium development.
The fans might as well get use to us being another Another Aston Villa, Everton or some other nearly men. We will never get into the champions league at this rate.
The worst thing to happen this summer would be players like Charlie Adam leaving the club. We bought okish players, but need to them stay and come together as a team. Jose Enrique, S Coates, S Downing, Henderson,
Charlie Adam, Carroll, Suarez have to become the core of the team.
We can not have another season of mass sell off in order to balance wages. I do not agree with selling top earners like G Johnson, Gerrard in order to free up wages.
The football club should be worth 600million pounds and to get that kind of value from the club, the owners need to invest inwards into the club. We need to see £200million investment into the club from our owners or they should look to sell the club to someone else who will invest that kind of money into the club.
We need stadium investment and player investment. We don't need owners who will increase prices and decrease the value of football being offered.
This latest trick hasn't worked on me. They can sack the loud mouth they hired, but I know Tom Werner is not the right man to be in charge of our football club.
Your spot on, I just wish you'd signed off.
Ozone
Good god how long did it take you to put that together???????
I was under the impression that FSG paid off £200 million of acquisition debt from the previous owners
You do realise lfc are operating at a loss so we are costing the owners lots of money do even at that they are backing us some people are clueless
Barcelona is a very good example of how with time you can be the best but it has to start from the youth and be nurtured i think this is fsg idea be patient.
gee man
12 Apr 2012 21:45:09
So we have the resources 2 compete with anyone in football so everyone who keeps saying we cant afford this player and that player can now change there tune granted if a player doesnt want 2 play for that club then it doesnt matter how much money u have but clearley we have the money 2 spend so no player is inpossible!!! King kenny
They also said that Commolli was doing a good job and then went and sacked him for doing a bad job. Tom Werner's tongue may be ever so slightly forked so take the statement that we can compete with anyone with an industrial size pinch of salt.
Where are we going to get young players like Arsenal have? They can get David Dein in, but is he the right guy for the job. Arsenal changed the football club while they where winning trophies left right and center. Now they have a production line of players coming through a new stadium and boardroom that doesn't want to spent a penny on wages. Regardless of success on the pitch.
Maybe English football has to bring in wage capping or some kind of control on what clubs can pay playing staff.
Messi is impossible
Red Ollie
Its going to get messi , if we lose to the toffees come on reds you are playing for the future of lfc and respect to the 96 ynwa
12 Apr 2012 21:39:13
12 Apr 2012 20:39:57
Comolli scouted the players Dalglish picked from the choice given. KD did have the final say but only on the selected players scouted for him by Comolli which is why Comolli has been sacked.
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Further to that, the short list given to Dalglish will have been assembled from 3rd and 4th choice options. Commolli will not have been able to put forward suitable packages to agents representing preferred 1st and 2nd choice transfer options.
The jury is still out for me on FSG's business model. Time will tell.
Ozone
Almost everyone has no idea what their business model is. They watch Moneyball read the book and check 'Red Sox' on wikipedia and think they know what the business strategy is for LFC.
Nevada
Nevada what do you mean? Our business model is simple. We are going to copy Arsenal in everything they have done.
But we are not going to spend a penny doing it. So you can figure that one out.
I thought we as a football club need major investment in scouting system so we could get younger better players into the club before the likes of arsenal and man utd. But that's just me. If we are not going to buy good player then why buy average player for alot of money. We could use that money to invest in scouting and youth.
The stadium could be build if the owners where prepared to leverage a deal to build a football stadium. Structured bond debt against the club and Real Estate Development of Anfield.
These things should of taken place the moment the football club was purchased. Within 4 season we will see decent younger players coming through. So we wasted 2 years doing nothing.
I don't really want a structured bond against the club thanks. Without the income from CL football we would have had no money to spend if we'd done that.
Red Ollie
The list of players was built up because of the stats dc used , it should not have been basesd on this as any one can have good stats over a one year period even managers i.e woy and burley .
lfc need the high profile stars thats where shirt sales and new foreign fans come from and thats why at one time torres and gerrard shirts together sold more than every one else in the premiership put together.good luck reds
12 Apr 2012 21:38:48
All underachieving egos ON and off the pitch-Take NOTE! Do the Business or beware!Starting at Wembley!!!
12 Apr 2012 21:33:38
Here's the thing..
Kenny has had a up and down season. One trophy in the cabinet and possibly the FA cup and Charity shield yet the league position is dire but many good attacking unlucky games.
Remember that this is his first full season as manager and not temperary.
Remember he hasn't been a manager for so long and is now getting back to it.
Remember Mourinho doesnt want this job.
What if Henderson and Carroll prove their potential next season plus great new signings then what will you moan at.
I see the Lucas haters now love him yet few years back they wanted him gone.
Oh yeh the same about Benitez... You moaned for him to go now you want him back and deny you wanted him to go.
It's you who's destroying our club.
Give Dalglish one more season to prove his worth and support the club you love and maybe our supporters can unit and become the supporters our glorious club once had and was admired for.
Divide in fans is ugly, not Liverpool way and a field of gossip for our dramatic press.
Support brings in the confidence to be almighty..
SJ.
Agree agree agree agree
Tom Red
12 Apr 2012 21:31:07
I'm sorry, but I distinctly remember the quote: "No one individual is bigger than the club" ...well, Kenny, me old china, if that is true, then you should hand in your resignation with immediate effect. My beloved Liverpool was going backwards under Woy. Now, we're going backwards so fast, we're actually travelling through time, without the need of a Flux-Capacitor. ((((( Stevie From Belfast ))))) there ya go... NAME !! Get over it...
I do think that a lot of players let KK down , we have been su unlucky with injuries and suspensions to key players , just think were we would be if Lucas , stevie G and Suarez had played every game , top 3 I believe , we need two or three class players to come in , and next season will see us in a much better position .
redforever
12 Apr 2012 21:21:01
I don't understand why FSG doing it? Kenny say the player is his choice and Comolli just doing good job to bring the player Kenny want. player is Kenny's choice tactics is Kenny's choice and the bad Result is Blame to Comolli? I know all the Kenny suporter will want my head but I am not wrong.
hhh
Should stick to wrestling mate ;)
Jatt YNWA
Cry me a river boo hoo
red rrab
You are. You don't understand what Comolli was brought into the club to do. It wasn't just to have a hand in transfers.
It's a cheap marketing trick employed by Chairman Tom Werner, my advice would be to never shake the mans hand because he respects nothing. He is totally the wrong person to be in charge of our football club.
Now we under invested in bodies, we didn't get enough players in to see out the whole season. This summer we should look to employ more utility players.
Comolli went because he paid way over the odds for players
FSG are not stupid. While many are pissed at Kenny, he is a legend, and they don't want to upset alot of fans by sacking him. I bet that Kenny will be respectfully 'promoted' to the senior advisor role over the summer, with a new manager named. I personally took the Comolli news in a different way: the owners are not happy and changes are about to take place, starting with Comolli. I think he is just the fall guy. Why Kenny came out and blamed everything on himself is not clear to me. He is essentially asking the owners to fire him!
It's kenny's job to protect the players, the club and it's staff especially one's that may have become good friends when interviewed. whether it was kenny's or comolli's decision the last thing we need is the manager finding fault in his squad! jose mourinho is a master of diverting attention away from players/the club in the heat of the moment but all our fans do is criticise kenny for it.
the reason comolli got the sack was more to do with what he agreed to pay for players i believe. the owners have witnessed 12 months later other clubs securing the services of talented players for alot less money such as newcastle. the players all have potential which they may grow in to in time we hope. but there is a belief we paid over the top in 3 circumstances. carroll, downing and henderson. the rest of the players were all reasonably purchased if we're honest as fans. given the money again i'd happily pay the same money for suarez, enrique, coates, bellamy and £500k for jordan ibe in youth set up from what i've seen. and on a side note i heard that jordan henderson was £14million initially rising to much more if he becomes a full international and so on with add on's. we may look back and witness him as a shrewd bit of business in the future. jack rodwell is valued at £20million, hardly head and shoulders infront of henderson.
You think 110m is under invested?!
110m was not invested. £0 was invested by Fenway. We spent what we had to spend like every other football club. No new money was invested.
Plus you can't make John Henry sound like some genuine guy that put his money where his mouth is. He hasn't spent anything on players. We have bought and sold within our budget. So really we are in the same position that we where in last season. But the fans are stupid enough to believe his media soundbites. {Ed001's Note - you are stupid enough to not notice that they bought the club with their own money! That is a very significant investment. Accusing others of stupidity while displaying massive amounts of it, well that is embarrassing.}
12 Apr 2012 21:19:16
hi ed just want to see what feed back i get from people about these players signing in summer cheers
Marin
Sissoko or Diame
Erikkson
Vertonghen
A Johnson
Cazorla
Myhlahov
12 Apr 2012 21:11:59
Don't see what everyones moaning about re Henderson. The real waste of money this year was Downing. 20 mill for a 'quality' winger who rarely beats his man or has an end product.
Carroll is showing significant improvement and Henderson was always going to be quality. U21 England captain.
RedMistRising
Yeah Nigel Reo-coker was England u21 captain it doesn't mean anything
p.s shelvey looks much better 2 ME
Henderson isn't allowed to play his game at Liverpool. Downing may improve. but I found it weird that we didn't try to purchase Sebastian Larsson from Birmingham. We paid sunderland 20million and they got in a better player for free.
Seb Larsson didn't create 80 goalscoring chances in the PL last season. And he's a lot older than 21.
Red Ollie
12 Apr 2012 21:08:11
12 Apr 2012 18:45:54
Dam, they given kenny a vote of confidence and sacked comolli. Shocking news. Liverpool director of football Damien Comolli has left the club by mutual consent.
I don't understand why they would sack their own man. It really doesn't make sense. Now they have no one to advise them on footballing matters. So does this mean Kenny is now going to get the boot too.
That would be very bad for the football club as a whole. He is the football club. Without our history makers we have no soul in the institution that so many believe in.
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They haven't sacked him, he left. When the dust settles it will probably transpire that Commolli realised that it was a pointless exercise trying to attract talent to the club with a brief to offer as little as possible in comparison to what other clubs are offering. Werner is notorious for cost cutting and endeavouring to get resources on the cheap (interpreted as 'unearthing little gems'). It's typical American clap trap.
Ozone
FA cup semifinal save kenny. lost it and next will be him
And what's wrong with cost cutting and trying to get players on the cheap?
Neilp
Is this the same "notorious, cost-cutting" Werner who sanctioned about 100 million of spending on transfer fees in the last 18 months? Thought so.
Only one spouting clap trap here, mate.
If you look at the Mathis, they haven't spent a great deal you muppet.
Nothing's wrong with cost cutting and getting players on the cheap if you want mid table mediocracy Neilp.
If the owners want to turn their investment into a business of similar worth to Utd, then they need to realise that a squad competing in the champions league regularly performing in front of a 60,000-70,000 crowd is the only way of getting there.
Ozone
Exactly Ozone mate.
Which means FSG stumping up on the stadium front !
If Kenny has had the flak for his football decisions, let's not forget that FSG have to deliver on their side of the deal as well.
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - and they have done so. They have fought long and hard to bring about the viability of staying at Anfield.}
Yes. But, from the Council's viewpoint, that's a complete 360 degree turnaround from the previous stated aim of the club.
No wonder they're pi55ed off and are putting up opposition.
I am usually always for LFC, but I think they've let the area down on this one ed.
I hope we get an announcement in the next 6 months, cos the longer it drags out, the less likely it will become.
The Real KB
You and Cozinoz Biggest defenders of mediocraty-.Well done Fenway.You 2 think before you sl g restve us
12 Apr 2012 21:07:55
Hopefully the Liverpool board will start sacking some of the doubters as fans of our wonderful club.
That would surely be the best thing?
Tristan
We have under invested in squad. Its not Kenny's fault. He need more bodies at the club
12 Apr 2012 21:05:51
Bit confused by your post as you started by "you may remember me as saying Kenny's job is under threat" but then proceeded to say that he's now staying!! So what have you actually told us that we cant get from interviews and websites ourselves?
Somerset red
12 Apr 2012 21:04:03
At last FSG have shown that they have th balls. Comolli had to leave but the same doesn't apply for KK. He may leave in the summer but the semi-final against Everton has taken on a massive significance. It will decide KK's future as manager so let's pray it all goes well. I also think the sacking of Comolli will give an extra spur for the players he signed. As Lawro said they've been average at best. About time they prove otherwise and no better time than against Everton.
Don't fans understand that FSG is the problem. Kenny is the only person in the club that is on the fans side. He is only person who wants lfc to win. The owners want profit and bums on seats. Followed by low wage players and mid-table finishes,
We have the wrong guys in charge of the club. {Ed001's Note - hahaha you are truly clueless.}
Clueless! That's a compliment!!
Lyndon
12 Apr 2012 20:59:07
Im told KD definitely discussed KK at the meeting yesterday. His position is certainly under threat, FSG currently assessing the situation. Serious revamp taking place. Showing intent here. Expect more after DC, PB and JA.
They will have a good budget in the summer to work with, Kenny will be manager till the end of the season for sure, they will reevaluate after the season ends. David Dein is definitely being looked at, travelled to Blackburn with IA and DC on Tuesday. Ayre will not get sacked as far as i know but his role will change. A new DoF will be coming in too.
JD
I personally hate Ian Ayre, he such a ass licker with no balls. He just seems to come across like that to me so the American's will love him of course.
You are clueless. The Americans do not love Ayre "of course". His job is under threat - as is everyone's at the club. Ayre is effectively going to be demoted.
12 Apr 2012 20:59:01
Stop panicking people.Some saying harsh on Commoli.If you stop and think theyve now removed any excuses.Kenny either has it or he hasnt.and i wouldnt mind guessing plans have already been hatched with Kennys knowledge.The only part were all left to discover is wether that includes dalglish or not!
All that has happened, is that Kenny is under more pressure to get people in without help. So who will be scouting and negotiating players at the club.
It takes time to prep players, tap them up, see what is what. They will need to hire someone quickly as we have less than a couple of months before the season ends and the serious business of play purchases begins.
It really isn't a good idea to sack someone at this time of season. Esp if your looking to purchase at the cheapest price possible. If he was to leave, then at the end of transfer window would of been the best time. So back in January or September. But it just seems stupid for him to leave now.
Nope new guy starts afresh now for endve season doohhhhh
12 Apr 2012 20:58:25
I know a lot of you may not agree with me, but I think having Rafa back will be great for Liverpool!
No other manager (apart from Kenny) shares an amazing connection with this club. You could see how much love he has for LFC in the fact that he was shedding a tear at the Hillsborough memorial service.
I think just the fact that he still lives in Merseyside is enough to show his love for the City of Liverpool!
He would do anything to get this club back on track and if you think about it, he made some great signings such as: Torres, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Reina, Lucas, & Alonso.
This is the man that I want back in control of LFC and I do believe he is the one man who can get us back on track!
Your thoughts please?
Thank you!
Boring football, chasing our best players away, settling for draws, constantly changing the team etc etc
No thank you!
I also think rafa is a great bloke with a clear affinity for the club. However, I don't believe he is the man to take us forward, Rafa did well with the best liverpool team in recent memory, masch, alonso, torres etc, but, he was also very lucky, very often and to be honest we should have won it when we finished second.
I also no longer think dagliesh is the future, and I say that with regret, because once again he is a great bloke who I admire, but, his player judgement, selection and media acuity must be seriously questioned.
For me I'd like to see one of two possible routes for the new manager, either a young ambitious premier league manager who has proven themselves in the league already, my first choice is Brendan Rodgers, followed closely by Paul Lambert, but I don't think you can discount martinez, he certainly sets up his team to play football the liverpool way and with Steve Clarke I think that could be a really exciting combination.
Or, we go for a really experienced manager with experience of many different leagues and styles of football, such as gus hiddink, trappatoni, ancelotti etc.
We shouldn't go for managers like villa boas, jorge jesus, jocahim low as these guys for all their accomplishments are still learning their trade, but the vital difference is they lack premier league experience and in our current position we haven't got time to invest, we need an improvement of 4 league places, a massive ask for any manager.
In my view only experience and a proven track record in, either the EPL or years of managerial knowledge, and an understanding of different footballing styles will take us forward within the time frame we are working too.
Just my opinion, but I welcome debate.
Thanks for reading
Andy H
Rafa was a great man who loves Liverpool , but dont forget , I never once saw him punch the air or celabrate a goal , and he was taking off stevieG and torres after 70 mins cos of champions league game coming up , but the worst thing he did , he sold our engine room , in Alonso ,
redforever
12 Apr 2012 20:57:02
Hope, to see Xavi Valero back as its being reported that achterberg has been sacked. Only disappointed to see Dr. Peter Brukner going out as he's done a remarkable job but I think he's given us a great medical team. Thans Dr. the other 3, well done NESV/FSG. YNWA trustme
12 Apr 2012 20:55:30
November 10: John Henry praises Damien Comolli. "He's been terrific. No-one has worked harder at the club over the past year. Every day he is focused on what he wants to accomplish. And his accomplishments thus far - most of them unseen by people outside the club - have been extremely important. He has organized so much so quickly and so well. Everyone on the football side has gained a significant respect for Damien and his efforts on the club's behalf."
King Willie
12 Apr 2012 20:48:15
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iam trying to read between the lines eds but getting nothing
liverpool till i die
12 Apr 2012 20:46:25
Hope these players see this as shout accross bow s.Perform,or go! too many hangers on and go through motions merchants at LFc.Strong leaderships required.And those who mention this aint LFC way.Do well to remember floundering in mid table as laughing stock with odd Cup game for distraction AINT Liverpool way either!Strong direction from Robinson And Smith Was Liverpool way also!Aint had for years,and perhaps co incides with our slide(with odd granted great exception)Weak leadership from Moores,the useless Parry leading to H and G disaster has left LFC years behind.No More coasting At LFC great
Does liverpool employ sport psychology at the club. Getting the players into a winning mood may be worth the investment in head-doctor
12 Apr 2012 20:43:51
I wonder how the likes of Carroll, Henderson, Downing and Adam are feeling after playing that poorly during the season that a man has lost his job over the head of them.
Yes, just the new players have been poor and cost us this season. Would have won the league if it wasn't for them. All other players been brilliant...
Chuck Norris
Carroll, Henderson, Downing and Adam are professional football players. They pick up their wages and do very little for them. Its a great life for them really. Plus lot of young women want to sleep with them. I really can't see why they would care
12 Apr 2012 20:41:58
So DC has gone - good riddance to bad rubbish, but for all you doom-mongers calling for Kenny to be sacked as manager consider this:
If Kenny does leave then that will mean whoever comes in will want to re-structure the squad and there may be lots of players in & out, leaving little or no chance of the new team gelling and starting to work together until at least another season.
Would you be happy to swap a manager who has took us to Wembly twice this season with 1 trophy already in the cabinet and the potential for another 2 (FA cup & Charity shield) for one who will potentially replace 4 - 6 players that may not work out like some of those Kenny & DC bought in.
The new Manager may not even settle on Merseyside and be gone in a season. At least with Kenny in charge he knows where he needs to strengthen and the squad just needs a bit of fettling. This is his first full season in charge and whilst the league results are anything but flattering we have also secured a place in Europe for next season(ok so its not CL but its better than nowt) and we stand as good a chance as any other team of winning that competition too.
So after 1 full season in charge i think what he has achieved is more than good enough to warrant him getting another full season next year and then judge him on his performance, not now - if we start bringing in new managers every season, we will have very few managers who want to come as they will be fearful for their job.
I tell you this now - if we get a new manager next season and we don't achieve anything in his first 18 months in charge you doom-mongers will be calling for him to be sacked as well - squad building takes time so have a little faith and patience.
ash240970
Kenny say the player is his choice and Comolli just doing good job to bring the player Kenny want. and u say sack comolli is a good decision then why u want kenny with us?
Tom Warner is looking to restructure the squad including getting ride of Gerrard and Johnson and anyone else who costs too much. So If we see Kenny leave expect to see someone like Roy Hodgson replace him.
Kenny is the best thing for the club at the moment. Until we get the Americans out.
12 Apr 2012 20:41:24
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12 Apr 2012 20:39:57
Comolli scouted the players Dalglish picked from the choice given. KD did have the final say but only on the selected players scouted for him by Comolli which is why Comolli has been sacked.
I disagree. If they were true, why does Kenny insist on playing the new players irrespective of form? I think Kenny is being honest, except perhaps with respect to Suarez and Carroll, which were likely Comolli's handy work.
A ten year old could tell you that we need a quality right sided player and a stiker who will score 20 goals a season at least , did we really need comoli .
redforever
12 Apr 2012 20:37:52
FSG rightly not happy.Too many live in past.Glad they see it,when person apologists and excuse makers on here who cannot see being 8th,and not winning Title for 22years is not Up to standards LFC themselves set.Weve been patient and rebuilding for all that time.And i for one am glad Fenway realise gap is widening if anything(Look at Leauge Table)And they drag LFC kicking and screaming into modern Era.Including apologist blinkered on here who mistake being a fan for unswerving bias loyalty-like telling your kid they have potential to be next Sinatra,when really there Des Oconner.Whilst loyalty great it aint truthful and fenway are making all face truth.About time to
Why did u tell your kid he sings like Old Blue Eyes if he is sh#te? Shame on u.
Chuck Norris
12 Apr 2012 20:37:52
breaking news just in ken aguero has been giving the role as D.O.F he said he loves liverpool and will try to sign his brother kun from man city good times ahead everyone my name Joel
12 Apr 2012 20:37:04
Hi guys..
Just an idea re Commolli's departure..
Do you think that Kenny might have told him that there were positions that needed attention in January, i.e replacement for Lucas and a out and out striker?
I know KK said that the squad was strong enough.. but could that of been because Commolli didnt recruit the targets he needed?
Phooey {Ed002's Note - No.}
12 Apr 2012 20:30:46
Is it true that FSG are changing the Liverpool anthem from YNWA to Another One Bites The Dust?
12 Apr 2012 20:30:05
Just read the article from Tom Werner on the LFC site regarding Commoli. Doesnt mention anything about mutual consent. I think its quite clear the man was dismissed due to poor peformance, Tom also mentions plans in place to make team better next year. He also suggests kenny is staying but I think he would say that regardless until season is over.
Nice to know our owners are prepared to act and not be satisfied with our poor season (league cup doesnt make a good season.) We were are all aware what the targets for this season were in August including Mr Commoli, Cannot help thinking he is not the only one who will pay the price of failure.
Kev the Red
12 Apr 2012 20:22:32
Surprises... the world is full of surprises.
I wake up this morning to find that Commolli has left the club by 'mutual consent.' I find that very often in PR you need to have the ability to read between the lines. Fortunately its fairly easy to do. 'Mutual Consent' means that the club felt Commolli was doing a poor job and Damian agreed.
Another statement made today where the truth is often the opposite of the statement is the dreaded 'vote of confidence' by the clubs board. I'd be nervous if I was Dalglish because that is the kiss of death for a manager, its rare they survive after the VOC.
It was the sacking of Commolli which made me think though, his position at liverpool was Director of Football. It's a misunderstood position which people often think is just a glorified scout. It's much more than that and is present at almost every european club. Some managers dont like working with a DOF, and this is where I thought it could get interesting.
Werner states that we have the resources to compete, gives Dalglish the VOC and sacks the DOF. I must stress now that this is all conjecture on my part and I have no inside information at Liverpool. To me though, i think the reason they may have done this is because they are bringing in a manager who doesnt work with a DOF. Mourinho is a pipe dream (if you like to dream about a**holes that s**t all over your house then ask to live with for a while), but Rafa is not.
I dont want Rafa back, and probably half the fans dont either. But he represents a viable option for Werner and co. Why? He has european success, got us in the champs league every year (its arguable that the year he didnt was because of off field issues), he is available, and willing to come.
Personally I hope that I'm wrong, if Kenny steps aside (which I think most people agree will happen) then I'd like one of the names I've mentioned previously.
The moves made today though could be interpreted as preparation to appoint a new manager with no DOF. I dont see a new DOF being appointed.
Final note: Everyone knows how much I have complained about Pepe Reina throughout the last two years (only now people are agreeing) and the departure of Achterberg may be the thing that improves his form so I fully welcome that sacking.
Thanks for reading all. Comments appreciated as always.
Nevada
That makes sense to me Nevada mate. It looks like we've got rid of some of our back room staff today and maybe more redundancies on the way. Paving the way for a new manager perhaps??
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Mutual consent also means, leave with a nice pay-off or be fired with a minimum pay-off. Anyone got any idea how much the Camoli mutual consent cost lfc? {Ed002's Note - It is irrelevant.}
Sacking Kenny will not only be a travesty but foolishness....
If they do so, then the next manager will be a dead man walking even before he is appointed......
In the eyes of many people who know football, Kenny has only bettered the club in the past 14 months that he has been in charge except for 3-4 matches in the league........
People say that we lost 6 in 7 in the league but forget that 2 were away games at Old Trafford and St. James Park and one @home against Arsenal where they scored 2 of 2 chances.....So we are talking about 2-3 games where the results desired were not obtained....
Plus the media, its all anti Liverpool and anti Dalglish....
I feel that probably owners might think that the reason we havent been as goood as expected because Comolli probably wasnt able to spot the January frshner signing tht could have cheered up the lads.....And probably though the players were Dalglish' choices Comolli was incharge of the negotiations and couldnt negotiate well........
Coming back to Dalglish, if he is persisted with he will take us back to the summit of the league.....
LiverBird
A pleasurable read Nevada, Thanks mate...
dd
Kenny and Steve Clarke will be staying, for me.
FSG know jack about football.
Yes, they have shaken up the support management. But they won't get rid of the football side, without a new
Sorry, sent that previous post too early.
But I was saying, what do FSG know about the football side of things ?
Nothing.
Who's gonna give them advice if there's no Director of Football ?
Kenny and Steve Clarke will get another season.
The Real KB
If we get more awful results/performances in the league and don't win the FA Cup, then maybe Kenny will walk. Tom Werner said that Kenny has their "full support" that maybe the case ( for now). But if we have a poor last few games to the season. Then I think Kenny will move upstairs at his own behest.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Thanks for the kind words DD.
They dont need to know too much about the actual sport KB. Plus they are very resourceful people I'm sure that the only information they would need is who to appoint.
Nevada
Yeah well, they're not doing too good on that score so far Nevada are they ?
The Real KB
12 Apr 2012 20:20:40
Its not nice for someone to be sacked but, I'm glad John Achterberg has gone.
Since he came in Pepe hasn't been commanding his box like he used to.
KT!
His missus told me she thought he was doing a good job?
12 Apr 2012 20:16:21
Eds, I Seriously don't know why we dont go for both Farfan and Hoillet. Both will be free in the summer most likely and both are quality wingers that can add alot of width to our very narrow minded team.
They will both cost nothing in fee's and their wages will not be excessive, at least not as excessive as Aqaulani's and Cole's who both may be leaving in the summer.
I see this as a win win because it means we do not spend alot and we have nothing to lose!
People complain about the lack of quality players that LFC cannot "attract due to CL" and how they cannot afford "world class players" these two players, despite not being "world class" could make a massive difference!
IF I can realise this for FREE why cant KD realise this for his weekly wage
Mr. Pink {Ed001's Note - neither are quality, they are both extremely average. I am so glad you are not involved in our transfers.}
I'm glad someone else is saying it. Ive watched Hoillett a few times and he is average at best.
Nevada
Average players for an average team
We have had no wingers for such a long time that people are desperate...
Chuck Norris
Think we only need one quality winger , and striker , and see the rest of team improve , and defo more points next season , if suarez stays , I think he will have learned a lot from this season , and will score more goals , I can see Shelvey making a massive difference to our midfield , likewise Lucas , if he can hit the ground running .
redforever
They are average,thats why they are free,
12 Apr 2012 20:16:15
Keep Kenny as manager because there is no1 one to replace him, also KENNY i hope there is no more bad signings, How can carroll play in a side who dont play to his strenghts, also do we want to watch a team who plays with a big forward? Well i dont! I want to watch a team with gerrards and suarezs in there. Buy players like Hazard who can open teams up! We could of signed him, cavani, lavezzi, gotze or turan to name a few with the £55m spent on carroll and henderson who are pony for liverpool. PLEASE LIVERPOOL SIGN QUALITY AND NOT CRAP. Its not brain science. Breathe out
12 Apr 2012 20:09:35
Please tell me that the groundsman hasn't been sacked.. our pitch is in the nicest condition in the world!
BthekingB
12 Apr 2012 20:06:08
Ahoy - and I must welcome myself back following a self imposed exile.
Changes at the club, and lets be honest we don't know the exact reasons behind each individuals departure or how long this has taken to become public knowledge.
If the inner workings of the football club are similar to any Corporate structure, it is blatantly evident to the staff when large changes (redundancy) are coming and the atmosphere within sinks to a new low. Performance suffers and not just by those facing an uncertain future. Believe me I know from recent experience.
Therefore - have these announcement been pending for some time, and the uncertainty hampered the on field performances. Something hasn't been right for weeks, a big shiny trophy in Feb should not be followed by a run of relegation form ?
I advise all supporters to read Moneyball - the Baseball book about strategy and restructuring in a Sporting Organisation and how this built results. A certain organisation in Boston embraced this new philosophy and turned around the flagging fortunes of the Red Sox. If they have a successful business formula they will replicate it.
Personally I think there is a huge restruture coming and this is only the start. Read the book you will understand the relevance to our club.
Apologies for being astonishingly drab - however I have one further question for Marshy who quite often posts here.
Did you used to have a WWF Legion of Doom Pencil Case ?
BOILED ONIONS {Ed002's Note - This is nothing to do with Moneyball.}
12 Apr 2012 20:03:23
What is the point in people over the age of 12 buying and wearing replica shirts?
To show support for your team.
What ate you on about?
Just what happens, makes you feel a part of something I suppose
I only wear it when going to a match
Because there is a child in all of us!
Ash
Because I like the silky feel against my skin
Red tinted glasses
Maybe because most scousers are red?
What is the point in people under the age of 12 being given internet access?
Nevada
I have 5 replica shirts and I'm Chuck Norris. What's your point? Crown Paint no7 my favourite.
Chuck Norris
I have seven shirts and wear them a lot , I feel like part of the club , I def wear one every match day , whether going to the game or not ,
redforever
12 Apr 2012 20:00:51
*Fact*In the know*I have it on good authority*
Just spotted two Liverpool fans talking about Damien Comolli and not talking or thinking about the poor rut that the club is in.
Refreshing not to be talking about Poor signings, performances, good/bad choice of manager.
Come On Red Men! let's show the bitter's why it's called ANFIELD SOUTH.
12 Apr 2012 20:00:16
Just watched the repeats on LFC TV again of the Blackburn match and to be fair to the lads they never put their heads down for too long like they have been prone to doing lately.
I know alot has been said of Carroll and to be fair what I liked to see was him actually fighting his corner in the box and not going to ground every time a defender man handles him.But my man of the match had to be Coates not just for the long ball that got the last goal but he showed he is ready to be a regular at the back and played very well like to be fair to him he has every time he comes on.
Skrtel was one of the more indifferent CB but again has shown he is relishing first team football.
I have never been a doom and gloomer so dont post that just cause we won now im a fan again I enjoy my team through the good and bad.
Red tinted glasses
12 Apr 2012 19:59:51
It's the night of the long knives! Ruthless and I'm afraid not the Liverpool way. I used to be proud to be a Liverpool supporter, proud of my team and the principles under which it operated I can't say that today.
You need to get in touch the real World of modern media.
Rolling news, rolling sports news. This would always make media headlines outside the transfer windows.
It's a testament to how Global Liverpool F.C is.
Has to be done.Were way behind,and getting no closer despite cups being nice distraction.And Fenway have realised that quicker than most sentimental apologists.Been far too much talk of old ways-has to move on
Heritage, pedigree and tradition is what makes our club what it is and better than the rest. With no 'old ways' as you call it, it wouldn't be the same. Life is not all about the destination, its about the journey. Real supporters understand that.
The "Liverpool Way" includes winning, not finishing mid-table. Read about Shankly and his attitude and approach before spouting about the "liverpool way".
If your going to win , then you want a winning team , no hangers on , no slackers , winners .
redforever
12 Apr 2012 19:52:25
charile austin would be a great goal getter for lfc what you think
Hi all. Before I moved to canada I was a steward for swindon town. I mention him about a year ago. The lad is good and we could get him super cheap. He is still young and could bring him in slowly. Could be worth an investment. J.canada
12 Apr 2012 19:44:13
The day of the long Knives? director of football, Goal Keeper coach,In house Lawyer,Head of sports science.Comolli took the fall for bad transfer choices, made by Kenny.In my opinion,that doesn't make sense.
Think Comolli went for bad negotaition of fees. RED LENIN
Think about it all.No more excuses for The King Kenny brigade.Kennys admitted responsibility for signings either very canny,or Fenway and K.D sorted him going upstairs endve season anyway
IMO i think Comolli went due to his negotiating on player transfers. We all heard rumours of the Suarez deal dragging on when it could have been wrapped up quickly and the Meireles transfer saga after a breakdown in contract talks.. we are all also aware we missed out on targets last Summer and possibly in January that Man U got wrapped up quickly...I think the way Comolli went about transfers is not the way FSG wanted things done... i would expected they are looking for someone to act quickly of identified transfer targets and get the deals sorted - someone who has a good track record of this.
YNWA jns
What is wrong with the signings you? Our squad has been improved we just haven't gelled for various reasons. Would you prefer Jova, Poulsen, Ngog and co back?
All the doubters will eat their words one day.
Chuck Norris
12 Apr 2012 19:21:00
with comolli gone now i wonder if ed002 was right about kenny moving aside. he might become the new director of football with a new manager coming in, i would like martinez or maybe even ed001. lol. what do make of the sackings today eds?
huddz red {Ed001's Note - necessary but odd timing. I know with DC it was best for all concerned, the lawyer made a mess of the Suarez trial and Achterberg had turned Reina into the shadow of the keeper he was (hopefully Valero, who is still contracted to us until the end of the season, will return). Bruckner was the odd one, obviously it was felt to be time he moved on, though the medical side of things was much improved over the past eras.}
Valero is contracted with inter not us, he's free in the summer but he's at home doing nothing.
12 Apr 2012 19:31:20
Hi Eds, It seems that Tom Werner has given us a clear indication of what 'mutual consent' actually means.... given the speculation that DC left because of his family not settling on Merseyside, is it a case of FSG getting in first with the "We finished with him..." rhetoric? {Ed002's Note - Does it matter?}
Tom Werner says he is not happy with the progress of LFC and that DC wasn't the man to take us further.Correct me if I'm wrong but He didn't pick the players we bought,he does'nt take training,picks the team,or tactics . So why was he shown the door again ??
Baz F
Feel more will become apparent in Summer
He was shown the door as part of a top to bottom clear-out. One that is not over.
12 Apr 2012 19:28:55
Werner has come out and said we have resources to compete with the best and the player meeting has been interesting. Apparently Werner has told the players that the club is going back to where we belong, we will be bringing in the best players etc etc. FSG very unhappy with league performances.
With the sacking of DC, I think we should expect a new head scout to be appointed very quickly and I also believe that we can expect FSG to back the manager and head scout to target the best possible players available and that the funds will definately be there is buy them.
FSG are not f-ing about and whilst agreeing the current squad is good but under performing... any additions that come in will have to be of top quality and fit within the attractive playing ethos that they originally demanded.
We shouldn't expect Cavani etc but I think some of us will be pleasantly suprised by the quality of player that will be brought in. Mock me if you will but I am excited for the summer window.
By the by these sacking announcements were supposed to come out on Monday but were leaked hence the odd timing.
Red Otter
{Ed002's Note - I would be stunned if TW has today told the players that they will be "bringing in the best" - effectively replacing them.}
12 Apr 2012 19:28:47
The Liverpool official lawyer has been the 4th member of staff to be diss-missed, the reason being failure to handle the Suarez-Evra case.
Good media balls ups been another huge LFC head in sand elephant in room for ages
12 Apr 2012 19:25:08
The Anfield cat has parted company with Liverpool Footbal Club due to mutual consent. Just a rumour what i have heard.
Noooo, not the cat!
AG
12 Apr 2012 19:23:53
Lol I think tom werners bored so he's deciding to sack everyone, because this is quite amusing.
KingMiz
(Mr. Werner and Ian Ayre review the security camera footage at Anfield.)
Mr. Werner: Wait a minute. Go back.
(Tape rewinds)
Mr. Werner: Zoom in.
(Screen zooms in to Andy Carroll.)
Mr. Werner: Why is that man in a black and white striped suit?
Ian Ayre: That's Andy Carroll, sir. He's one of your boobs from the training ground.
Mr. Werner: Carroll, eh? Well, judging by his outlandish attire, he's some sort of free-thinking anarchist.
Ian Ayre: I'll call security, sir.
Mr. Werner: Excellent.
That has to be the most pointless joke I've ever heard on this site. [To the nameless one]
BthekingB
I didnt realise that the site had an audio option :)
But also very funny
12 Apr 2012 19:16:20
Hi Eds,
Apart from the results which clearly show our transfer targets are not successful, do you think this is FSG's way of showing their disapproval?
JTR {Ed002's Note - They are not just doing it to make a point.}
12 Apr 2012 19:15:50
In all honesty,if we were to lose the fa cup s-final on and also finish below 7th,that surely won,t be deem a success after all the money spent.to me succes is measured when there is an improvement on your previous result and that is not the case as far as im concerned notwithstanding the league cup we struggled to win.opinions are entertained.
We all know that Kenny will not be sacked .When the times come, for the best of the football club, he will leave himself.I still think he will win one more trophy before he leaves though.
12 Apr 2012 19:12:09
Does Tom Werner have Charlie Adams number ?
davinspain
Sack him via twitter?
12 Apr 2012 19:08:47
Owners are ruthless it seems that no one is safe from the axe
Who will be next to go?
Anymore big names expected to get the chop?
Bean
Yes anyone on a big wage. Werners principle business strategy is to get rid of big earners. Don't be taken in by rhetoric, it is likely that Commolli is sick of trying to negotiate with a begging bowl and has given up the ghost.
Ozone
12 Apr 2012 19:07:09
Did kenny blame everyone in his report?
Transfers? Commoli!
Goalkeeper complacency ? Gk coach!
Injury to Lucas? Sports science man!!
Suarez? Solicitor!
Hitting the woodwork? Groundsman!!
Cp
To be fair, that was funny.
Gaz b
12 Apr 2012 18:59:27
Reports now that #LFC's in-house lawyer, Natalie Wignall, has become the FOURTH full-time member of staff sacked today.
12 Apr 2012 18:52:42
This is quite entertaining its nice to know our owners are ruthless and they like being effective eds apart from the goalkeeping coach do you expect anyone else sacked lol
KingMiz
It's never entertaining to see somebody lose their job, but lets hope that all this is whats best for the club.
12 Apr 2012 18:51:35
I don't understand how the club will become better if we decide to sack all the staff at the club. It sound to me like they are looking to save money on none playing staff. Sack them and get someone else in at a cheaper rate. This sounds like the handy work of Tom Werner.
I hope Kenny sticks it out at the club, we really need him at the club. I would rather see Tom Werner leave the club.
It still amazes me how thick some of our supporters really are!
NS
12 Apr 2012 18:47:52
Liverpool have also sacked the doorman,the night guard,the genator,the club mascot,the anfeild cat through mutual consent..
And going with the sack day atmosphere ed001 has just sacked ed002 and 005 beacuse of family reasons through mutual consent..both of them are waiting for ed001 in parking lot with a bat..
Red indian
12 Apr 2012 18:45:54
Dam, they given kenny a vote of confidence and sacked comolli. Shocking news. Liverpool director of football Damien Comolli has left the club by mutual consent.
I don't understand why they would sack their own man. It really doesn't make sense. Now they have no one to advise them on footballing matters. So does this mean Kenny is now going to get the boot too.
That would be very bad for the football club as a whole. He is the football club. Without our history makers we have no soul in the institution that so many believe in.
Here's a clue 35 million deal
gee man
KK is Liverpool through and through , he knows more about Liverpool football club than Comoli will ever know , I heard long ago that Kenny did not want or need Comoli , all this pruning is just what we need , and all the players and staff had better get their act together .
redforever
12 Apr 2012 18:40:49
Eds......Any idea if paco de miguel is currently employed. {Ed002's Note - No.}
12 Apr 2012 18:39:06
Club solicitor sacks for the dealings of the saurez saga
12 Apr 2012 18:34:16
How dare you people call me deluded or an everton fan.
The majority of you people want King Kenny out, be it he may have made mistakes by playing carol out of position and selling konchesky (which are mistakes), he is still along with Shankly and Don Welsh the greatest liverpool manager. He has the highest win percentage as a manager and has won a cup to return Liverpool to the pinnacle of football greatness.
So don't call me deluded when you shout blasphemous statements, such as 'Kenny Out'
Liverpudlian
YNWA
So your saying selling Konchesky was a mistake?
M8 honestly you keep posting if nothing else your funny
mrbrown
Your probably one of those fans who wants hodgson back, who made the worst mistake of them all by selling Voronin.
Have you been drinking that home made wine again , Konchesky was one of our worst ever buys , and his mother was his biggest fan , the prem was just too much for him .
redforever
12 Apr 2012 18:33:47
DC and KK both should go but may be owner want to wait until end of the season to replace KK. and they are not wrong.
what.
12 Apr 2012 18:26:19
Natalie Wignall the In-house lawyer is the latest casualty of the boardroom
GuvTOB
12 Apr 2012 18:22:04
Fenway Sports Group and Liverpool FC confirmed today that Head of Sports Medicine and Sports Science, Dr Peter Brukner will leave the Club by the end of the season.
Agger and Aurelio must be gutted
Funny post above and true
12 Apr 2012 18:20:55
Goal-keeping coach is supposedly gone aswell...Its like transfer-deadline day!!
GuvTOB
More like the last half hour of The Godfather Part 1
who at the club would be resposible for ear marking staff for the chop?
Expect a horses head in the bottom of Kennys bed. If we don't win our semi-final against the bitters on Saturday.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
"Expect a horses head in the bottom of Kennys bed. If we don't win our semi-final against the bitters on Saturday."
Don't agree but funniest post of the day.
They certainly made Commoli an offer he could'nt refuse!
12 Apr 2012 18:16:55
Ed001 i think mentioned before that Reinas dip in form may be because of the goalkeeping coach, the rumour is that the goalkeeping coach is gone aswel today. Will that help Reina get back to form do you think?
Cheers, Josh {Ed001's Note - I think it will make a huge difference and it is not a rumour, it has happened.}
Why is all this happening now and not in a month?
Ash
Hopefully because reina hasnt been the same since benitez left.. he was immense that season and since roy took charge and then kenny he hasnt been the same!
Why waste time if he's not up to the job
12 Apr 2012 18:17:16
It is understood that goalkeeping coach John Achterberg, has also left the club.
12 Apr 2012 18:16:36
Unconfirmed reports that John Achterberg is also gone, any truth in this. Does anyone know?
12 Apr 2012 18:15:49
I usually am against ridiculing posts but this is just halarious!
Firstly to even consider that van persie would join us, let alone for 12million is beyond me. Same goes forr jack whiltshire who is future england CM plays for a team who will be in CL and we wont. Konchesky was never anywhere near Liverpool standard.
Then let's get onto out exiting players. Fair enough gerrard it has been discussed in length whether he should stay or go, but 12 million for kuyt. Seeing as he can go for 1 million you are a bit wide of the mark. 25million for downing! We should be so lucky I would take 12 million for him right now. That's a bit like saying we are going to sell Andy Carroll for 40 mill!
I apologise for bent so blunt but that Post just cannot be take. Seriously
Kind regards
The Southern red
12 Apr 2012 18:11:07
With the departure of Damien Comolli, I feel the owners are showing that they are not happy with how things are progressing, and this is a final warning to Kenny.
I love Kenny and everything he has done for our club, and I think at the time of his return, no one else could have gotten us out of the mire we was in. Unfortunately, that momentum has been lost with constant changes to the first team, and not just through injury. I think we need to rip up the game plan and start again. It is clear to me, that as much as I love KK, he is not the man to take us forward as much as we would like, and I would rather him move upstairs than the ignominy of the push. I feel that a new approach for next season would enhance some of the undoubted talents we do have.
I feel that our slide seemed to come about at the times that first Lucas, then Dan Agger were injured, Jay has done an admirable attempt to cover for Lucas, but I have to put sentiment aside and say that time is up for Jamie Carragher. He will always be an Anfield legend, but I feel his age has cought up with him, and though he can still do the job mentally, his legs won't take him there fast enough. I think a role on the coaching staff with grooming for a future managerial role would serve him and us well.
Also our midfield cohesion seems to disappear when Stevie G returned to fitness. As much as a legend he is, the rest of the team do seem quite inhibited when he is on the pitch, everything must go through him and it is almost as if the rest of the team are afraid to express themselves. Henderson has looked much more effective when Stevie is not there.
Suarez also does not seem to be the same player from before his ban, I am unsure if this is a desire to move away or a natural reaction to opposition fans abuse towards him that should be put to bed, it is over, he served his punishment, wrongly in my opinion, but its done, lets move on. If he feels he cannot stay here and requires a fresh start, then leave him on the bench as an impact sub and concentrate on playing to AC's strengths, and get the best out of him.
I personally am of the opinion, that AC and LS cannot play together, they both play different styles, so that being the case, why persist with both. Decide which style we want to play and then create the team around that style. The constant chopping and changing helps no one. So in summation I feel that it is time KK moved upstairs, Carragher retired, Stevie I dont know what to do with, but we are better without him in as a team even though he is our best player, and decide which of our strikers is the better ( LS for me) and create the team tactics to suit them.
Sorry for the lost post but I dont say much often but when I do I like to get it all off my chest lol.
Red4Ever
Good post Red , I really think that putting Stevie G on the right of midfield would solve a lot of problems , and he can def cross a great ball , I do think that winning a few games , lots of goals will retore confidence very quickly
redforever
12 Apr 2012 18:09:30
This may be a bit naďve of me, and if so, I apologise, but why don't we just use Segura and Borrell as our chief scouts/ director of football? They seem to know talent when they see it (one only has to look at who they bought to barcelona), and surely have reliable contacts around the world. They know the club, I'm sure they understand what type of player both the board and fans want, so on that basis, it makes sense.
I welcome people's responses to this.
Rafa's Purple Goatie
12 Apr 2012 18:08:29
The so called 5 transfer targets that macca said we had, Obviously with comolli gone this will be a totally different story now, I couldnt really see us signing the likes of soldado, martinez, munian, higuain etc. they would all want champions lge football and if they were to leave their current clubs, they could probably sign for a big club, we never really stood a chance, kenny needs to go, worst manager for 62 years.
Have you considered the players mentioned may have been suggested by the next manager?
Maybe he should also get a sack as the advisor of FSG
Harsh
12 Apr 2012 18:04:27
For all the people that are wondering if soldado,muniain ect will still be targets because of Damiains departure.------------ In terms of transfer activity this summer, will Damien's departure affect plans that are already underway?
We've had a strategy that we have agreed on. There was some disconnect on the implementation of that. That strategy is a strong one and it will CONTINUE. We need to build a strong system under the first team. We're hard at work identifying transfer targets and we will be better next year--Tom Werner. Source-LFC.tv. Red Yonk
12 Apr 2012 17:55:19
Werner says Kenny is staying. It's on the official Liverpool web site. Don't understand now why ed002 was saying he was going to leave. Credibility damaged?
bozo {Ed002's Note - Bozo seems an appropriate name.}
I agree with the ed and Kenny will still go in the summer
I 'm so glad His majesty is staying...tis good my liege that the philistines and republican hoo hahs did not get the better of you sire...and that machiavellian deceiver Commoli has been banished from the realm
This royal downward spiral into the abyss is only a ploy to fool the infidel bluenoses i'm sure ....
As always your very own poodle and toady
The Hon. Boo Swerve - Tuneful
Bozo! people like you ask the eds stupid questions or ask there advise all the time. all they are doing it stating what they believe.weather you believe them or not is up to you.
mrbrown
But Ed002 only said in his/her opinion he would leave not that it was a dead cert
MJ
Of course Kenny is staying. What club fires a manager 48 hours before a cup semi-final?
Summer will be a different story.
He wasnt going to say kenny was going to get the boot just like he wasnt going to say who the next candidate lined up for DOF was
12 Apr 2012 17:52:28
Eds any idea why Dr. Peter Brukner fired
MJ {Ed002's Note - I don't know but I understood he was to leave in the summer in any case.}
12 Apr 2012 17:41:02
Hello Ed002,
why do people keep on believing that changing the manager will make everything much better next season? I agree that 3-4 players may come in, but seems that more than 4 will leave. The FA Cup would be great, but the owners were hoping for top 4 finish this season. Seems to me they're determined to achieve that next season. Whatever changes it takes, thay'll make them in the summer.
12 Apr 2012 17:50:12
I would very much like to see Andre-Villas Boas given the manager's role at Liverpool. He knows how to handle a struggling team. His sacking at Chelsea was mainly due to Abromovich's insanity, and the thing he does if his team goes through a bad streak. I think he can do well in Liverpool.
Dash it man this is High treason...talk of deposing King Kenneth is a foolish thing to do....recant now and save yourself while you can
The Hon. Boo Swerve -Tuneful
Avb is a joke I would hate him to become our manager...
Peter
Martinez all the way
12 Apr 2012 17:39:29
just a quick question eds,who out of dc and kk would have initallypicked players?if as kd suggested they were his players why has comolli taken the blame?what other role would dc have within the club under the title of director of football?as it stands after today it seems he dosent coach or manage and they were kd players,thaks for your thoughts {Ed001's Note - he was meant to oversee the entire football side of the club, not just signings, but everything. Unfortunately, he was simply not up to the task at all.}
The Fa cup semifinal may save Kenny's job. if we are not in FA Cup at the moment then sure Kenny take same taxi with DC
abcd.
12 Apr 2012 17:39:16
Dalglish will also be handed money to spend this summer as they attempt to catch the likes of the Manchester giants United and City. 'We need to build a strong system under the first team. We're hard at work identifying transfer targets and we will be better next year.' Source-Mail. Seems like FSG will look more closly at who we bring in. Red Yonk.
Giants is a very strong/wrong word
12 Apr 2012 17:35:58
Eds, what involvement did Kenny have in agreeing fees for incoming players? I'm assuming none as that should have been the job of Comolli. If that's true then Comolli deserves to take the stick for the value of the signings, something which seriously affects fans' perception of whether a player is a good signing or not. For instance, if Hendo had been signed for £8m there would have been much less abuse towards him especially at the start of the season. That is something I believe may have contributed to his sacking, along with his desire for complete control and other apparent ineptitudes {Ed002's Note - He would not have been involved in any negotiations.}
Thanks Ed002. Do many managers get involved in the financial side of negotiations? {Ed002's Note - No, not many.}
12 Apr 2012 17:35:33
I'm sorry, but I distinctly remember the quote: "No one individual is bigger than the club" ...well, Kenny, me old china, if that is true, then you should hand in your resignation with immediate effect. My beloved Liverpool was going backwards under Woy. Now, we're going backwards so fast, we're actually travelling through time, without the need of a Flux-Capacitor.
Anybody surprised that this post has no name?
Chris in Tamworth
If we travel through time we will see the 70,80's glory days. Now thats hell better.
12 Apr 2012 17:32:42
It`s clear that the owners are unhappy with the season. No wonder, who is? Just wondering if its enough to change Commoli (and Dalglish?) to make it better? They seem to support KK, a few players may come in. I guess a goalkeeper, if Jones leaves, a RB, a right winger and a replacement for most of the players that leave (johnson, kuyt, adam?, suarez, maxi, carroll, aurelio, cole, aqua).
Any owner can unhappy with the situation like that. they use £110m in a year and ask top 4. we are 8th so they have valid reason to unhappy.
abcd.
Owners are not fools. They had to show they mean business and they know they could not fire Kenny without a huge uproar from supporters (proper supporters). Kenny will see out the season then have a new role. Least our PR is improving...
Chuck Norris
12 Apr 2012 17:32:15
Looks like Duncan Oldham was right -.- I still hope we could go after soldado. FSG did a good job of firing Damiain, John Henry knows what success is by winning two world seris and he realized that with this staff he wont get nowhere. Bravo Henry!
12 Apr 2012 17:32:09
Reading between the lines of what's happened today........
You could argue that Comoli has been made the scapegoat for under-performing players that have been bought.
It also paves the way for KK to have at least one more year in charge. If there is not an improvement after that year, things could change. EG The blame will lie solely with KK as he will have to identify targets, buy targets and take the whole blame if it doesn't work out.
On a separate note, what do people make of the article floating around the other about Gerrard? Basically saying that when he plays, the team as a whole performs worse and individual players seem to not lack confidence. Almost like lets give the ball to SG at every opportunity and if we lose it's not our fault etc etc.
12 Apr 2012 17:30:40
Tom Werner, Chairman of Liverpool put manager Kenny Dalglish in a safe zone for now.
- We have great confidence in Kenny (Dalglish, ed.). We believe that the club will make great progress in the future, and he has our full backing, said Tom Werner to the club's website.
12 Apr 2012 17:29:26
I disagree with most of the posts saying Kenny should go next. We have played some good football this season and have been unlucky at times. Ok, you don't win games by passing well and controlling games unless you score, but in my opinion kenny should have next season to put it right.
We are only a few players off, with a young sqaud who will only get better. Last season when kenny took over from Roy, his record in the league was second only behind Chelsea I believe. Surely that is evidence that this man knows his football and knows how to win games with an under performing sqaud. Ok we have been rubbish lately but a lot has happened and loosing Lucas has effected us defensively, big time. A world class winger and a new striker and we would be in the mix for top 4 this season.
I hope Andy Caroll stays as he gives us options. There's no doubt that we need a clinical finisher but Caroll adds something differant and as people point out, can be a monster.
If a new manager is appointed, I hope it's not Rafa. The football was slightly boring at times and he cared more for the champions league rather than winning the prem. If Raffa is appointed as manager I will support him in the same way I support Kenny, but feel if Kenny does go then the new manager should be someone new with fresh ideas.
I would prefer the manager to have a pass and move philosophy and not be too defensive like we have had of late with Rafa and Roy. Football should be about getting a better goal difference then your opponents and not playing for a draw.
I hope even more now that we win the FA Cup, especially if it means Kenny gets another season to take us too the top.
Most people will disagree with me after reading the posts from today. Let's all agree on this, the season isn't over yet so let's really get behind the team and manager and bring the double to Anfield. I've said this before and I will say it again, if both cups are achieved and we finished 7th or 8th to me that's not a bad season, more of a work in progress.
What ever happens Kenny, you will always be king, one of the greatest players to ever put on that famous red shirt and a truelly remarkable man. Thankyou for all the charitable work you've done for everybody involved in LFC, you are a true legand.
Ynwa
Tizer red
Wish I could click agree more than once!
Simsimo
Well said. Exactly my sentiment.
Chuck Norris
Top post m8 totally agree with you
mrbrown
12 Apr 2012 17:19:39
Staale Solbakken was fired from FC Koln today, do you know if he can be Liverpools new manager?
Kind regards
12 Apr 2012 17:06:18
Kenny Dalglish has been assured his job is safe after Commoli's departure. In what is the start of a major Liverpool shake-up!
Charlee
12 Apr 2012 17:04:50
The team is really not impressing me at the moment and I believe there are five main reasons on the pitch where the problems lie.
1) No goal scoring striker
2) Enrique is a liability at left back
3) No creative midfielder
4) Too many poor fringe players
5) Carol not given a greater role in the team. I see him as more of a winger then a target man.
Tranfers
In
1) Van Persie (12-15 million)- Scores lots of goals and is unhappy and wants to move to a bigger club.
2) Konchesky (2-3mill)- Played well at liverpool and is playing even better at leicester. Need a reliable defender on the left flank.
3) Wilshere (8 million)- Not played much at arsenal recently, though plays really well when he plays. England international and will probably be desperate to play for a bigger club with a great history.
Outs
1) Gerrard- Outstayed his welcome, used to be instrumental, now detrimental, I prefer Adam.
2) Kuyt (12 million)- Still a good player but I would like to have a world class player at his position instead.
3) Downing (25 mill) - Hasn't done as well as I wanted but still a great player, just unneeded at liverpool. Carol to replace him.
Line-up
Reina
Flanagan Coates Skrtel Konchesky
Hendo Adam Wilshere
Suarez Carol
Van Persie
This team will win trophies.
Thanks
Liverpudlian
YNWA
Er...really? Caroll as a winger? RVP unhappy...and value of £15m? Gerrard outstayed his welcome?.....This post's a wind-up right?
Are you for real !!
redforever
I'll have some of what you're on!
This is perhaps the most stupid post ive ever read
OMFG what planet are you on... Liverpudlian more like evertonian
Konchesky?? are you mad?? wilshere hasnt been playing because he is/was injured.
Red4Ever
I thought this was a wind up but i think your serious,you really are deluded!
Lol t*t
I'm speechless!
(which will please some including Ed001!)
Chris in Tamworth
Single line spacing would be nice
Either you're joking or this is THE worst post I have ever seen on here...
Reid the Red
Hah you have got to be having a laugh! Van Persie? Wilshire? KONCHESKY???
Rvp for 12 million? your a funny man you!
Are you being serious here?
why would we ever want konchesky back, and i really dont thing VP will leave arsenal for 15mil even if he wanted to leave.
Worst post of the year
Red raj
Already been said but worth repeating. THE WORST POST I've ever seen. pretty much every point made is b****cks
Red Greco
God I thought I put some tripe on here. Nothing beats this tho
Peter
Fantastic! after reading posts on here and ending up frustrated,this has just had me creased over in laughter with the replys aswell funny as f**k
mrbrown
Thanks Liverpudlian, that's cheered me up no end. lol lol
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Idiot...all that needs to be said really
Carroll a winger ....insanity surrounds us !
At least Konchesky has nice hair!
That post has got to be up there with the Clint Dempsey window cleaner rumour 'I saw a screensaver pic of the wirral on his pc' from January.
Hilarious!
gee man {Ed002's Note - The word is bogart not fogart}
12 Apr 2012 17:04:19
Ed002 is Damien Comolli!
12 Apr 2012 17:04:09
so doni lost his appeal,no surprise there then,if the clowns at the fa didnt turn qprs player (derry) red card over for barely touching a guy in an offside position , what chance has any appeal got.
I think it turned out that there was no appeal,it was rejected by the fa
mrbrown
12 Apr 2012 17:02:30
eds any idea when the kit will be reavealed because with adidas it was around this time if i remember correctly {Ed002's Note - Within the next two or three weeks.}
12 Apr 2012 16:59:38
Ed tom werner has just said that kenny has got their full support and is not going, do you believe them or do you still think he will go? {Ed002's Note - Let's get through the rest of the season and see what happens.}
12 Apr 2012 16:58:25
Doni appeal lost....Not a surprise really!
12 Apr 2012 16:42:53
Just hope FSG don't sack anyone else while i take a banana.
Daniel Rogers.
12 Apr 2012 16:38:08
The club has just announced that Barry Flogg, the deputy-assistant first-team assistant to Ian Ayre's has been made redundant with immediate effect. After more than three days in the job, LFC chairman's deputy assistant secretary said: "We are shocked to have to let Barry go. In all the time he has been with us we have never worked with anyone else with the same name as Barry. He enjoys our complete confidence and we would warmly recommend him to any Job Centre in Maghull."
Kenny Dalglish refused to be drawn on the subject at his weekly massage. In defending Barry's record with the first team squad he would only say: "Barry was a member of Damien Comoli's crack team of scouts and his beard was was enviable. Only last Tuesday his postman's son Norm recommended we sign Sebastian Holes who we snapped up for just £425,000 from Beckenham Town FC. We know there were two scouts looking at the boy and thanks to Damien and Barry's persistence we were able to persuade him to ignore the offers from Tow Law and Devon Wanderers and sign for us. The boy will be a great asset when he is released from Broadmoor at the end of his sentence. Can't wait!"
This is a great day for Liverpool FC according to Stogie Rogers, chairman of the South Dakota Liv-pool Socca Fans Forum. In Liverpool for the Forum's bi-annual trip to the UK he said: "Barry Flogg was a man I didn't know. Hell, none of us knew the little b**tard as he was only there for three days, but hell, what a man! We are all looking forward to Saturday's game agin the Tuffees. Looking forward to Andy Caroll scoring a headball in the score zone."
The club has declined to comment on rumours that Doncaster Rovers' head of pies - Olly Trimble - has been invited to the club to meet with the management on Saturday.
Peeve Starker
Einhoven Supporters Club
12 Apr 2012 16:36:07
Werner said they have great confidence in Dalglish and that he has their full support, so please refrain from posting rumours about Dalglish being sacked or moving to another position in the summer. Dalglish will be our manager next season. Also he said, in a more subtle way, Comolli was actually sacked and the reason being he was probably messing around with their strategy and he was not that cooperative(probably he was playing political games).
The owners are so dumb they sacked the wrong people and it will cost the fans having that person as our manager
Q. Is Damien's departure a reflection that the ownership group were unhappy with the return on player investment?
A.I would say we certainly have the resources to compete with anybody in football. I wouldn't want to get specific about any particular decision that's been made. We feel there is enough talent on the pitch to win and, as I said, we've been dissatisfied, as most supporters have been, with the results so far. But we're also talking about the future - we have a strategy we need implemented and we felt Damien was probably not the right person to implement that strategy.
So we have funds to compete with every team so lets make History and buy a few Sensational players for a change
MJ
There is no way that KD will be team manager next season , that's not how international business and high finance works !
12 Apr 2012 16:36:01
Hi Eds,
What is your take on who was responsible for the mass of homegrown players that have not performed? The diplomatic stance from the club will always be that Kenny chose them and Comolli got them. I think the reality will be somewhere in the middle with DC having quite a say in the signings. This is demonstrated by the ever presence at unveilings and medicals etc. Interesting that every initial photo of a player once signed for us was with DC and not Kenny - most clubs still use the traditional manager and player photo opp. {Ed001's Note - DC was thrusting himself in there, that is one of the main issues with him. He likes to take all the credit for everything.}
12 Apr 2012 16:34:56
Dr. Peter Brukner has gone as well?
12 Apr 2012 16:31:19
hey ed does coollis departure mean that we will have new transfer targets for next year then ? {Ed001's Note - it is unlikely to make much difference to the summer's activities.}
12 Apr 2012 16:29:41
Is this 'a good day to bury bad news' ?
Qwerty
Like renewing KK's contract?
12 Apr 2012 16:28:55
To all you folks, have seen lots of people sounding out David Dein as new DOF but I think he has more chance of replacing Ian Ayre as managing Director rather than DOF if he is to be appointed at any position at Liverpool football club.
On Johan Cruyff as DOF I would love it to happen. It would be deadly & hell of a foundation for future if Kenny & Cruyff can work together and a strong massage to football world and fans by FSG.
DOF, Txiki Begiristain! Apparently he will be approached or has already been approached for the job.
Based on Tom Werner's comment today on Kenny I would be very surprised if Kenny leaves at the end of the season.
And please don't take me as some ITK guy! I am just giving my opinion & probability of what might happen based on my knowledge & understanding.
YNWA JFT96
Armando
{Ed001's Note - Dein would be CEO, if he would take the position.}
Like I said ED.
Zabwala
@ Ed001,
Yeah, thats my point. DOF doesn't suit him at this moment of time. A more senior position suits him. And if we are to have a CEO, do you really think its necessary?
Though not a bad idea,
Personally I think It might widen the span of control a bit bringing some negative effect, but certainly would ease Werner & Henry's much involvement.
Cheers
Armando
Ian ayre was at huddersfield when they went into administration,changed the clubs 100 year old crest,which was thankfully changed back,he is a pr disaster,the sooner he goes the better in my eyes,rob b
12 Apr 2012 16:25:05
Tom werner has said that they didn't feel damien commoli was the right person for the job and when asked if kenny's job could go the same way he said no nd that kenny has the full support from them...
KingMiz
Would like to hear everyones opinions including ed001(as a pool fan) {Ed001's Note - well it must be said that none of us editors were impressed with his appointment. So we all agree it was the right decision, I just wish he had never been appointed in the first place. His position is a separate issue from Dalglish's though. Comolli was meant to be their advisor on all things football, it was clear he oversold his abilities to them. Just glad to see they saw through him.}
They said they are going to keep the existing structure so a new DOF will be appointed...to be honest I'm not really a fan but hopefully the right man is put in.
GuvTOB
I think Ed001 that KingMiz was looking for a reply off you concerning the owner's backing Kenny! {Ed001's Note - and I have said over and over again that his position will be reviewed at the end of the season.}
12 Apr 2012 16:24:18
Tom Werner gave an interview to LFCTV
Does Damien Comolli's departure have any impact upon Kenny Dalglish's position as manager?
Absolutely not. We've got great confidence in Kenny. We feel the team is going to make strides in the future and he enjoys our full support. ~ Tom Werner
Werner is a prat makes hicks look good
Lets hope all the fans follow the American owners Confidence in Kenny...I know i do and always will
MJ
12 Apr 2012 16:23:21
HEADS WILL ROLL(if FSG deems fit)
Keith YNWA
12 Apr 2012 16:23:21
Ed's and red folk,
Tom Werner has given an interview to LFCTV about Comolli and the future.
''I would say we certainly have the resources to compete with anybody in football. I wouldn't want to get specific about any particular decision that's been made. We feel there is enough talent on the pitch to win and, as I said, we've been dissatisfied, as most supporters have been, with the results so far. But we're also talking about the future - we have a strategy we need implemented and we felt Damien was probably not the right person to implement that strategy.''
~ Tom Werner
Mr. Werner, if true that you have the resources to compete with anybody in football then hire the Special1.
King Willie
12 Apr 2012 16:22:52
I think we all need Macca to come and enligten us, he was obviously not aware of these ongoings. The americans have obviously looked from afar and given everyone time to adjust and are not happy with a number of things. Transfers are Comolli's, they are unhappy and theyre making a move. Other than the Warrior deal there has not been much else in the way of sponsorship development. They are also unhappy that th Suarez Racegate saga was not nipped in the bud by management.
The Americans have come over after evaluating from afar and moved switly, which i like, they are not sitting on their arses waiting for a miracle, theyre making things happen and punishing poor performances.
Anfield Andy
12 Apr 2012 16:22:27
Sorry to copy and paste, but for those of you that havent read the interview by Tom Werner on the LFC website have a look..... well conducted honest answers as far as I can make out.
Following the announcement that Damien Comolli has left the club, Liverpoolfc.tv spoke to the Reds chairman Tom Werner.
Tom, the news this morning that Damien Comolli is leaving the club will have come as a surprise to many fans. Can you explain why the decision was taken?
I think it's fair to say no supporter would be delighted with the results we've achieved this year. We feel we are a club that needs to be perceived as the strongest club in football and we want to get there. Frankly, we make these decisions with a great deal of care because it's our track record in Boston to give people authority and we've had great success with our manager, who was there for eight years, and our general manager, so we prefer stability. But when it's time to act, we need to act. We're coming close to the end of the season and the transfer window for the summer, and we felt it was important to make this change expeditiously.
In light of Damien's departure, do you still think there is a need for a director of football at this club?
We're still confident the structure we've discussed is the right structure. That doesn't mean we won't look at tweaking it, but we feel a collective group of people making football decisions is healthy. The debate is healthy. Part of the reason we made this decision now is because we want to start the process of finding an excellent replacement.
Do you have a candidate in mind for the role?
We don't have any specific candidates in mind. Part of the reason we made this decision yesterday was to be in the best possible position to move forward as quickly as possible.
Is Damien's departure a reflection that the ownership group were unhappy with the return on player investment?
I would say we certainly have the resources to compete with anybody in football. I wouldn't want to get specific about any particular decision that's been made. We feel there is enough talent on the pitch to win and, as I said, we've been dissatisfied, as most supporters have been, with the results so far. But we're also talking about the future - we have a strategy we need implemented and we felt Damien was probably not the right person to implement that strategy.
Does Damien Comolli's departure have any impact upon Kenny Dalglish's position as manager?
Absolutely not. We've got great confidence in Kenny. We feel the team is going to make strides in the future and he enjoys our full support.
Do you envisage any other changes in the senior management of the club?
We do not. It's a good question. We believe the senior management is very strong, Ian Ayre is an outstanding managing director. His charge is to raise revenue so that we can put the resources into strengthening our football club. We've got great confidence in the other people in football operations, and so the answer is there will be no future changes of significance.
In terms of transfer activity this summer, will Damien's departure affect plans that are already underway?
We've had a strategy that we have agreed on. There was some disconnect on the implementation of that. That strategy is a strong one and it will continue. We need to build a strong system under the first team. We're hard at work identifying transfer targets and we will be better next year.
Finally, as chairman of Liverpool Football Club, do you have a message for the supporters ahead of the very important game on Saturday?
We're all excited about this match. We certainly feel the team is healthy and the team is committed. We just attended a practice where they are excited about returning to Wembley. There's only one team in England that has the possibility of winning this cup and the Carling Cup, and I think our supporters around the world should feel very confident.
Well a hope this clarifies a few things for the kenny headhunters in kenny we trust
ynwa jft96
mrbrown
12 Apr 2012 16:12:58
Many posters slagged me off big time for my previous posts. Someone even called me a manc, that was real depressing. But its well known i believe that agger n suarez r my favorite players, no manc wud agree with that wud they? N i hate shrek from the bottom of my heart, but i still think he is the best english player around. Im not from salford, im from India. N i didnt abuse any of our players. I called them c**p, dont think that is abusive in any sense. I do call carrol a donkey, but im not the only one. There r many who do but never mention their name.
Indian Buzzer
We've had Camels, horses and now Donkeys.
Ed's, bit of help :) {Ed001's Note - the guy is an imbecile, he makes abusive remarks while saying he doesn't make them! There is no hope.}
*yawn* - can someone give him a nudge he's got stuck again. I think calling someone a donkey is abusive and justifying it by saying others do it too, well cast your mind back to WW2, it didnt wash then and it doesnt wash now. btw what did you make of Carroll's performance on Tuesday, now come on get past that bile and vitriol and admit he had a cracking game, go on you can do it.....
Andy C
What point are you making Indian Buzzer?
Anyone read Werner's piece on the LFC site? I do wonder what this 'strategy' is....
Lee YNWA
I think the best English player is Jack Wilshere mate.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Buzzer why dont you just stop whining....and try enjoying being a supporter for a change ...if you really are one that is ?
ps I have my doubts
Tel 1949
You call Liverpool players c**p and AC a donkey? Trust me, you ain't no Liverpool supporter!!
I think we have some players that aren't good enough but i give constructive criticism because at the end of the day they are LFC players, the team i support.
You support LFC the same way as Evertonians support Everton, by just slagging of Liverpool!
MR EM
Hmmm looks like buzzer just got owned. Again.
12 Apr 2012 16:07:27
What are the chances of david dein Eds
Scouse Ben {Ed002's Note - Too short for a centre back.}
Good one ED.
Zabwala
12 Apr 2012 16:05:18
As Liverpool announce the departure of director of football Damien Comolli, here is a run down the signings he presided over during his time at the club.
Comolli, who had previously held a similar role at Tottenham Hotspur, spent more than £100 million on players since taking the role at Anfield in November 2010.
Those acquisitions included star striker Luis Suarez, but the purchases of players such as Andy Carroll – for a club record £35 million – Jordan Henderson and Stewart Downing have drawn criticism.
Here are all 11 signings that Liverpool made under Comolli's watch.
Luis Suarez (January 31, 2011): £22.8 million, 46 appearances (all competitions), 17 goals
In his first 16 months in England the Uruguayan striker has been embroiled in more controversy than many players are in their entire career. Despite that, Suarez is one of the most threatening attacking players in the Premier League, giving even the best defenders nightmares.
Andy Carroll (January 31, 2011): £35m, 50 appearances, nine goals
The cost of signing the striker from Newcastle – who was injured at the time - was largely offset by the £50m fee received on the same day for Fernando Torres's move to Chelsea, but he still has a long way to go before he is regarded as anything other than one of the biggest wastes of money ever in the English game.
Jordan Henderson (June 10, 2011): £16m, 41 appearances, one goal
Perhaps the most surprising of all of Comolli's signings, given he was just 20 at the time and the fee involved. Henderson has not come close to justifying Liverpool's considerable investment in him thus far. Just one goal and one assist in the league so far despite seeing a surprising amount of minutes on the pitch.
Charlie Adam (July 8, 2011): £9m, 35 appearances, two goals
As Blackpool's captain last season, Adam was the midfield maestro who took every set piece, scored and set up goals with regularity. At Liverpool, he has come to a club where that role is well and truly Steven Gerrard's, and has struggled to adapt accordingly. Just six league assists for the Scotsman this season.
Stewart Downing (July 15, 2001): £20m, 39 appearances, two goals
No other player has taken more shots on goal in the Premier League this season without scoring than Downing's 62. That statistic would perhaps be forgiven if he had been laying them on for his new team-mates, but he has not registered an assist in the league for Liverpool yet either.
Alexander Doni (July 15, 2001): Free, two appearances
The Brazilian goalkeeper was famously between the sticks when Manchester United put seven past Roma in the Champions League five years ago. Conceded within 10 minutes of his debut against Aston Villa, while in his second match against Blackburn on Tuesday he was sent off.
Jose Enrique (August 12, 2011): £5m, 39 appearances
Arguably the shrewdest signing by Liverpool under Comolli's stewardship, the Spanish left-back has proved good value at left-back for his surprisingly low fee. Certainly an upgrade on Paul Konchesky.
Sebastian Coates (August 30, 2011): £7m, 10 appearances, one goal
The young Uruguayan scored one of the goals of the season with his acrobatic overhead kick in the recent defeat at QPR, but few would disagree that he is still very much a work in progress.
Craig Bellamy (August 31, 2011): Free, 32 appearances, nine goals
By far the best value signing of this crop. Liverpool took full advantage of Manchester City's decision to cast off the Welshman by sealing his return to Anfield on a free. The Welshman has already matched the total of nine goals scored in his previous season at the club five years ago, and in more than a dozen fewer games too.
Jordan Ibe (January 1, 2012): £500,000, no appearances
Liverpool beat off competition from Manchester United and Tottenham to sign the Wycombe wunderkid, who became the Football League's youngest goal scorer last October when he scored against Sheffield Wednesday 10 days shy of his 16th birthday.
Danny Ward (January 30, 2012): £100,000, no appearances
The 18-year-old goalkeeper signed from Wrexham towards the end of the January window.
Adam has "just" 6 assists - please tell me who has more?
Andy C
^^^
silva,rvp,song,arteta,bale,parker.............
the list goes on
According to your post Doni and Downing were signed in 2001,think you need a re think.
Derek
Adam has 10.
12 Apr 2012 16:05:03
rumour coming out that peter brukner has also left his role as well?!
never a quiet moment at lfc
s.p
12 Apr 2012 16:17:27
Hey Ed's , now that comolli was axed do you's think fsg is waiting until after the fa cup semi final if they are going to sack kenny or not? , i must say its an historical day today , fsg have shown me that they dont tolerate our current position on the table and they mean business !! {Ed001's Note - I can't see Kenny being manager next season, but I don't think he will be sacked either.}
12 Apr 2012 16:17:14
i think that next year's coach will be didie deshamp and he will try to buy french players like m'villa,lloris,giroud,a.ayew ....it will be good for us
12 Apr 2012 16:01:09
Peer Brukner - Head of Sport Sciences and Medicine has also left the club
12 Apr 2012 15:57:04
I am fed up of people saying about kenny "moving upstairs" utter rubbish.
I have just heard what henry has said just now, kenny has the full backing of the owners and will be manager.he also states tht they [the owners] and kenny have idenified transfer possibilities and will try there very hardest to get them in summer.love it rafa lovers need no more posts.
mrbrown
12 Apr 2012 15:55:31
LFC's Head of Sports Medicine and Science, Peter Brukner has also left the club via @danroan (BBC)
12 Apr 2012 15:54:15
Afternoons eds I know u can't say for sure but yr opinion would be appreciated now comolli has gone and if fsg have decided to replace kenny who would advise fsg on our next appointment or do u think they will trust themselves on the next appointment as it has to be said they are still novices really to the sport
Thanks kopman {Ed002's Note - They will have someone trustworthy to give advice. I don't know who but I suspect that it would be someone independent of the club so there are no emotional ties.}
Henry says he has yet to decide if another dof will be appointed
mrbrown
Perhaps you would be a good option ed? I feel that this may in fact be your full time job you spoke of earlier, except at chelsea. And if its not then it certainly should be! Plus have you ever thought of running for president, your sharp wit and cunning mind would be refreshing.
KiwiRed {Ed002's Note - I'll give it some thought.}
Please do ed, your country needs you....or something else patriotic and heart stirring.
KiwiRed
12 Apr 2012 15:37:08
just a little brain fart on my behalf but does any1 think that with DC leaving means KD will take his position and a new manager will come in?
My first reaction too................ andy.
DC gone Kenny next. the woner want new build up and they are right. may be Kenny can save his job by win FA cup. but his siginig is not helping him to sty he must go too.
Love benitez to become director of football
12 Apr 2012 15:25:47
Given that comoli is gone,i expect dalglish to follow suit(move upstairs).If a coach was to be appointed in the summer,my obvious choice would be marcelo bielsa ;reason being that he would be able to give some of our young stars a chance to prove their worth which some of us fans craves for.
Based on his current performance KD can move only downstairs and not upstairs.
King Willie
Michael Laudrup. Wud bring barca's policy with him, plus we could nick a few la masia players.
Indian Buzzer
Kenny should go 1st rather then Comelli. as keeny say's all the sign is his choice comelli just do the deal.
12 Apr 2012 15:25:38
Ian ayre can be out the door next, useless pillock.
I am happy john henry is in charge, he is showing he is a no nonsense, brilliantly intelligent, sophisticated and classy man. With a drive and desire to suceed in everything he does. Just compare him to the cowboys before...
He will set lfc up for the next hundred years so just all have faith in every decision he takes.
Becci lfc
Just a thought was ian ayre partly responsible for getting hicks and gillett out
Totally agreed . so do kenny
He was responsible for us getting the biggest kit deal in football history...You're talking utter rubbish...
12 Apr 2012 15:21:00
Ed do you think Kenny is next to go? {Ed002's Note - I expect we will see in the summer after the end of season review.}
12 Apr 2012 15:14:34
i think Dalglish will.be next. and deservedly.so. you cant spend that much money and not expect a return. mancity spent and got great returns. we have slent and we are worse than we started out . I think he wil be next and I know ed will play devils advocate and say nothing but i know the owners wont make a change before the close of the.season,, whats the point. But i do believe they have sounded out to coaches and are waiting to here responses it the first thing you would do in situation like this. Have options to fall back on but i dont belive.thats just an option but a statement that failure will not be an option
Man city have spent 2 or 3 times the amount we have and in nearly 3 times the time and still thus far, trophy wise, only have an F.a. Cup.
Kev7
S**ty spent over 300 million, yet r not gonna win the title. Not exactly great returns. They r the only team apart from us who have not got the returns expected from investment in players.
Indian Buzzer
Chelski's expenditure ain't clever either, but at least they, like Citeh can afford it short term.
12 Apr 2012 15:12:41
Fergie just got jeered when his face come up on the Big Screen at Aintree
Classic!!
Lyndon
Lyndon do you ever stop talking about united or fergie?
Hopefully Never in a nice way!
But if your banning it. I'll obviously adhere to your orders!!!
Fergi...... I mean Lyndon
Thanks for the info Lyndon .
Qwerty
12 Apr 2012 14:42:30
Hi eds can I just ask whether you have full time jobs as well as being eds? I only ask as I am amazed to how much work and effort you put into this site. Your hard work is very much appreciated
Neilp {Ed002's Note - I do but most of the others are just schoolkids or homeless wasters working out of Starbucks.}
, I know you get a lot of stick about being sarky ed002 but i love your sense of humour personally! And your certainly on form tonight.
KiwiRed
They must be making a few quid to be having coffee from Starbucks Ed!
Lyndon {Ed002's Note - But one lasts them all day.}
ED002, Im not sure selling the big issue in Church St every Wednesday afternoon comes under the strict definition of you 'having a job'.....
Tel 1949 {Ed002's Note - Being a rodeao clow keeps me busy much of the time Tel.}
12 Apr 2012 14:35:48
DC had to go, he's done to us what he did to the spuds. FSG certainly possess cojones.
Lol watching MU last nite, without the frowning ginger in CM they revert to the polo plan...play with a hole in the middle !
davinspain
Cojones- is he going to be the new Manager or Director of Football?
Dutchmal
12 Apr 2012 14:27:24
edd could you enlighten me on a few things which you think Comoli was a snake etc and if their was any arguments between him, kenny or anyone else at club. cheers
taffytel {Ed002's Note - I don't think any one has suggested Comolli is a snake, but Ed001 did suggest that someone young and good looking had likened Comolli to a "snake oil salesman". I explained plenty last year when he was appointed and we have no interest in gossip, but he has now gone so we can move on.}
Are you by any chance that someone "Young and good looking" ed?
KiwiRed {Ed002's Note - Could there be any question about it?}
Of course, how could I be so foolish ed!
KiwiRed
12 Apr 2012 14:22:33
I can't help thinking that mr Benitez has something to do with this behind the scenes. Think he mite be our manager in the summer and is pulling the strings on this {Ed002's Note - So the puppetmaster is finally identified.}
ED002 your a wizard !!
Tel 1949
If Benitez (a sort of Spanish Alan Curbishley waiting for the Real madrid job or maybe Barca?) did NOT have a house on Merseyside, would we still be asking these questions and suggesting he return?
I think it has more to do with him being around the area than his suitability for the role.
I like Benitez and believe that with a stronger assistant and more supportive owners (who would have questioned his spending a bit more) then he could have done the job. I can't see a return working.
Then again, I was one of those people who scoffed at posters suggesting those other great candidates for the job - AVB and Owen Coyle. My apologies!
SP
I have agreed with almost everything you have said previously and then you go and call Benitez, winner of 2 La Liga titles, 1 UEFA Cup, 1 Champions League and 1 F.A. Cup, a Spanish Alan Curbishley?
As much as I did laugh, in the words of McEnroe, "you cannot be serious?"
Ash
Ash
LOL! Sorry - I was trying to be flippant as I feel that's why Curbishley has been out of the game for so long, waiting for one of the big jobs like Real Madrid that he deserves. Or maybe it's just that AC is pants!
SP
Maybe Benitez as Director of whatever..?
12 Apr 2012 14:21:18
Realistically, what are the chances of us getting these 5 players: soldado, munian, hoilett and adam johnson? {Ed002's Note - Putting aside there are only four, slim that any arrive - let alone all.}
12 Apr 2012 14:21:03
New manager for next season is Michael Laudrup. All agreed. Dalglish moves upstairs.
Where is this magical place upstairs some fans think Kenny is moving up to? Is he going to live in the Commentary box with the Anfield cat?
I hope it happens. We need a manger for the next 20 years, kenny is not the answer.
Indian Buzzer
Why, because he is old?
12 Apr 2012 14:20:48
Personally, for whatever reason DC has gone, I have to say I'm happy about it. For no other reason than I just never liked him. It might sound childish etc, but he always struck me as slimy and untrustworthy. His track record backs up my feelings. I never felt comfortable with him at LFC. Nick. {Ed002's Note - Don't feel bad about it Nick, Comolli never liked you either.}
12 Apr 2012 14:13:38
With Comolli's departure and imminent moving (upstairs) or departure of Kenny, I say that all rumours regarding players coming in are rubbish. New manager, maybe new scouts and new ideas plus a host of old aged players departing will result in transfers that we cannot unfortunately predict at this stage. Lets just hope we bring in a man that brings more success than controversy. That's my 2cents.
12 Apr 2012 14:14:42
Lets face it Commoli got sacked because of the useless rubbish Kenny signed. And Kenny still keeps he's 4 million a year job. He should have been sacked after the Wigan game he has no right to a job upstairs becasue he has done nothing to suggest he is any good at any job upstairs.Look at the team he has created 10 points away from a relegation battle.The owners need a whole new apporoach. Get a talented coach/manager like Klopp or Marcelo Alberto Bielsa Caldera, and give him total control to rebulild a ship sinking faster then the titanic.
Fatnasies again!
"Hey Jurgen! Come and join us and leave that cash-rich club with average home gates of 82,000, a Champions' Laegue place and join us!"
"Danke. Das wäre eine perfekte Schritt für mich sein!" (translated as either: 'Thanks. That would be a perfect move for me!' OR .... 'You're 'aving a larf!'
TYBOSP
12 Apr 2012 14:14:24
Guys to many of you are looking at the news with the wrong slant on it: clearly the signings were pushed through by comoli and the owners no longer trust him with their money and rightly so. Now whoever is in charge of recruitment will have a full but cautious backing with kk and dc there was no trust something had gone wrong and we've decided it was dc's input not kk which to me shows that our owners are great they have done it the Liverpool way with NO so called experts or people with inside info;) none of them new just the way it should be! {Ed002's Note - Dalglish said the signings were his. You think he is a liar?}
Yes I think that the statements that have been made by the club and Comolli are all lies, there is obviously an issue amonst the ranks but Liverpool FC do not like to say things have gone wrong with the signings when they clearly have.
12 Apr 2012 13:38:34
Not a fan of the Director of Football role myself. It's like the saying, "a camel is a horse designed by comittee." The manager should have his own team and make all the footballing choices.
Ash
You mean a camel isnt a horse ???
12 Apr 2012 13:37:46
Eds do you know if kenny only want to protect DC with his comments about the signings were his choice or do you believe it's true? {Ed001's Note - Kenny had the final say.}
12 Apr 2012 13:36:48
just so everyone is clear: DC was NOT sacked. he legitimately does have family reasons for leaving the club. in time perhaps he will talk about them, but for now we should all thank him for what he's done for us, and wish him and his family all the best. if it was myself in that situation, i'd have resigned too.
This is more believeable than the crap other people are saying.
mrbrown
According to Werner, he was sacked
''we have a strategy we need implemented and we felt Damien was probably not the right person to implement that strategy.''
MR EM
12 Apr 2012 13:03:08
i'd really be interested to know what ed002 thinks of comolli's sacking, since he (or she?? i never got that) was always very critical about kenny. i always thought kenny had the last say in transfers, therefor our weak form should be mainly be blamed on him....? i know comolli is somewhat weird but he signed some super players for arsenal and spurs. i really don't know much about the club's politics in this case so i'd be DELIGHTED if someone would help me out a little bit.
have a nice day.
leni
12 Apr 2012 13:52:49
Now Comolli has gone due to bad signings, surely those "bad signings" must be slightly worried about their jobs and will now be giving 110% like they should of in the beginning!
Who says he left due to bad signings?
And those bad signing's are under contract and highly unlikely to get the sack! shown the door for a fee yeah! but sack? No!
12 Apr 2012 13:50:59
the first thing a potental manager would say to potental employer is i will come to manage liverpool but only if i get full control of the signings and get rid of the director of football!
which is what redknapp done to him at spurs and someone else is doing know at liverpool who fsg must have lined up!
sounds like liverpool might be lineing up someone special??
deano mcc
12 Apr 2012 13:48:52
With Commoli leaving and possibly kenny at end of season, does this mean that macca's rumour being less likely than before? I know they were by no means guaranteed but surely if these two go who ever comes in will want their own targets! Or are fsg controlling who comes in more than manager? {Ed002's Note - You need Macca to answer that.}
12 Apr 2012 12:47:40
Family reasons may just be true.However after Commolis long stay in States-hard to believe.Now will all the"Team gelling","Not that bad","Takes time",merchants see the owners agree with majority of us-It aint been good enough for LFC! And those who snear at us mentionioning Champs Leauge,have to realise sadly thats a huge part in todays football for revenue
12 Apr 2012 12:42:32
Ed001, with all respect to Comolli, do you think KK would do a better job as Director of Football, should it be that KK moves up there? Thanks!
DP {Ed001's Note - I would personally get rid of the post, but yes Kenny is a better choice than DC.}
12 Apr 2012 12:41:59
Does anyone know when the new kit will be unveiled?
12 Apr 2012 12:41:52
Now I think everybody owes an apology to that old fraud Mr Duncan Oldham.
I believe he was referring to the recall of Gulacsi, not the sacking of Damien Comolli. I haven't seen the tweet but a poster on here said it stated there would be transfer news which is not what I class today's bombshell as.
JFT96
As long as he apologises for the hundreds of thing he gets COMPLETELY wrong every season then he is owed an apology for the knowing something might happen on a certain day, although he had no idea what it was! LOL
Are you serious?
MR EM
12 Apr 2012 13:25:33
FSG's timing of the sacking is a warning to everyone in the club. They will want the club to reach the final of the fa cup. Otherwise many will face the same consequence. Kenny is definitely feeling the pressure now.
12 Apr 2012 13:21:37
Hi Eds,
After whats happend with DC do you think Kenny will go next maybe in the summer. {Ed001's Note - Ed002 has been taking abuse for saying exactly that for a while now, I believe. I still expect the owners to assess the situation at the end of the season, difficult to tell without speaking to them directly. Clearly there has to be changes at the top level of the club, the PR dept have been very poor this season and we have seen the public perception of the club take a huge hint. DC is not going to be the only change, that much is certain, it is just hard to tell with these owners how they will act without any input from them. They have been keeping their thoughts to themselves of late.}
Ed001, I think the only reason that Kenny has avoided the same fate as DC today is that we have a massive game on Saturday, If we lose, I would not be surprised if Kenny is gone to by Monday.
I think Kenny will be manager till the end of the season! even if the unthinkable happen's on Saturday!
Fenway will have had a business agenda and will have made it clear to everyone at the Club that ECL qualification was a minimum requirement.
Damien Comolli is the most dispensable member of staff at this time of the season and I'm pretty sure Kenny will follow. After that...who knows?
Just my opinion based on how ruthless they were when they first took over the Red Sox.
ANFIELDPETE
12 Apr 2012 13:16:48
Kenny Dalglish has just stated that all signings were his choice!!
And Comolli is the one to get sacked??!!
Re-read what reasons Comolli has left the club. IT's for ''family reasons'' now most people will bee sceptical about these ''Family reasons'' and to read it's by ''Mutual Consent'' but to speculate and theorise about anything else is just that; ''speculation.''
12 Apr 2012 13:16:35
Eds, why did you guys not see the Commolli sacking coming? You had been figuring on Kenny getting the sack. Seeing as you did not see the Commolli sacking coming where you possibly mistaken about Kenny moving upstairs? {Ed001's Note - because DC has been described to me as a snake oil salesman and is very good at convincing people of his worth. I really thought, with him seeming to have the ear of the owners, he was talking himself into keeping his place. Also there is the fact that I wanted him gone and the club hasn't done anything I have wanted since the signing of Xabi Alonso! I tend to just assume what I want to happen will never happen now. I could well be wrong about Kenny moving upstairs, the owners might have decided on a new broom approach. Without getting to speak to them, which has been an issue for a while now, we can't gauge anything on their end.}
There is no doubt in my mind that KK will not be the manager at the end of the season. He was good in the role he had 18 months ago. I'd like to see him return there. Do you think he would want to take the step back though?
He is a proud man and it would certainly hurt him to feel that he had a second chance and didn't, for whatever reason, hang on to it.
Ash
12 Apr 2012 13:13:24
kenny will be sacked if liverpool lose on sat day watch and see
12 Apr 2012 12:49:19
Goodbye DC!.
Thanks for nothing!.
Have some respect, nameless poster.
Indian Buzzer
Bit soon to say he hasn't done anything for the club
Well said Indian Buzzer! Bit of class
Lyndon
12 Apr 2012 13:09:51
Team I'd play against Everton (and i expect many disagrees!):
---------------------Jones--------------------
Johnson-----Skrtel-----------Agger-----Enrique
----------Henderson--------Shelvey-----------
Bellamy--------------Suarez--------------Maxi
---------------------Carroll-------------------
Subs: Gulacsi, Coates, Carragher, Spearing, Gerrard, Downing, Kuyt.
Henderson and Shelvey are both better midfielders than Spearing or Gerrard(hes not a central midfielder, hes a right midfielder) and Bellamys pace on the wing and link up with Suarez on Maxi is more beneficial than Gerrards whipped balls. Suarez also has more flair behind the striker than Gerrard would provide. Gerrard and Downing should come on the wings for Bellamy and Maxi at about 60 minutes depending on how well they are playing, and how their knees are holding up. The other substitute should be used if called upon (ie injury, tiredness, red card).
Captain: Skrtel/Agger
YNWA! (Adam)
Fed up reading Gerrard is a right midfielder, he is a ACM. He even describes the role on the right as the grave yard shift. {Ed001's Note - and yet he had his best season for us out there. He should play where he is told and where he is best for the club. Right now he is the best option we have for the right by a long long way.}
Henderson better than Gerrard??
We're in more trouble than I thought!!
Not disputing that ed, but he has in the past been fantastic behind the likes of our previous number 9.
Its hard to say as he does up his game against Everton but Shelvey looked to me like he is fantastic off the striker, so perhaps Gerrard on the right would be a good move. But im sure we will have a shock come saturday in the line up. Anyhow i'll be there enjoying the game so lets hope if he plays, wherever that may be, he puts in his typical world class performance against the blue half.
When ever gerrard is in the team we are terrible. the only game he has played well was against everton. if i could get £2.50 for him and carra they would be sold
safa
12 Apr 2012 13:01:53
Some people saying its bad timing Commoli going today before the cup semi....Well, who knows why but perhaps he was a disruption?, there will be many thoughts on this one but i personally think its to make room for Kenny to go upstairs in his place, THAT makes the most sense to me.
YNWA JFT96 The Guv 81-9
12 Apr 2012 12:38:41
eds why is it when someone disagrees with maccas comments you dont print them.? i posted but yet it still hasnt appeared. if your not going to print please just leave a message so i can understand your reasoning behind it
billy {Ed001's Note - stop whining.}
12 Apr 2012 12:37:49
Following on from Steve Parker's article re the premier and champions' leagues and success
in either being a different first choice of supporters or owners... I have always missed the European Cup
(Yes - I am that old)
You couldn't even qualify for that unless you WON your own league...if that were the case now winning the PL would become the first choice of owners AND supporters. In view of our current, and unfortunately
not-so recent past, I don't suppose anyone would want that format back ?
But it was just another example of the money men altering a competition just to reap in more and more
cash. Money is important- of course - but you then get to today's situation where it is almost a case that as long as you stay out of the relegation zone you have a chance to get into one or the other European competitions...all of a sudden things
didn't seem as special as they were
I'm going for a lie down now
Puzzled
I've been saying for years that the champions league should consist only of the league winners, the FA cup winners and the league cup winners. If this was the criteria for all countries then the champion league would be champions only
Chris in Tamworth
Good point Puzzled and I agree with Steve Parker that we have lowered our expectations. Just getting into the CL is all that seems to really matter.
Chris, you make a very good point.
In the case of the league, one team could potentially win it by a massive margin (say 20 or more points), with 3rd and 4th say 10 points each behind. So gap from 1st to 4th could be 40 pts (not unlikely), is this really the sort of quality you want playing in the champs league.
Make Champs league for the 'winners' (league, fa, league cup) and Europa league for runners up (2nd, 3rd, 4th, and runners up in fa and league cup).
At least that way you would have 'real champions contesting it'.
Just a thought.
12 Apr 2012 12:37:46
Ed 01?
It says alot about FSG and their decision making that
1 They appointed DC in the first place
2 They appointed KD
3 They trusted in this pair to be let loose with record transfer spending that failed epically.
4 Their handling of Suarez issue.
5 That they approved of spending £35m on an injured player whoose contribution was little during that season.
Given that are you not deeply concerned at who they will replace KD with? It seems they make very poor decisions and have an utter lack of football knowledge.
DC has gone, I hope KD goes at the season close, but I have little or no faith that the current ownership can guide LFC back to glory.
TIME TO GO.... {Ed001's Note - no, why would I be? Because they got it wrong initially? Dein brought in Bruce Rioch to Arsenal before Wenger. If knee jerks like you had their way, Dein wouldn't have been allowed to choose after making a mistake with Rioch. You clearly need to get out more and learn a little about the world, you learn by making mistakes. The owners will find the right men, then they will back them, which is what a good owner does.}
I feel the exact opposite is true. they see a problem they deal with it. our owners are top draw as far as i am concerned
Seem's like they've already got him lined up Ed001
12 Apr 2012 12:35:51
Very interesting that Comolli's left. Perhaps Kenny to be moved to his role come summer? Or is Kenny being given a chance to operate without a director for a season or two? I hope Kenny stays manager, but I'm glad something's happening with the way the club is being managed
Red Ollie
So you want kenny to scout and buy players like he aint done enough damage.
I can't see KD staying since all the signings were his choice, KD job is not over yet because of the FA cup and the last few league games left, the owners said everyone should get behind KD just to get a good end to this season, I think there will be new managerial appointment for next season let's home they make the right decision.
Don't let kenny near transfers!!
No one knows who picked the players we signed in summer. But 2 more players and we have a quality squad. You people are blinded by a poor run, the fact is we could win both domestic cups this season
Red Ollie
12 Apr 2012 12:30:26
well all the guessing has started looking at everybody's comments on here.what if comolli wasnt sacked and did just walk.
the eds dnt know the reason macca hasnt been on either.
and for all the rafa lovers he wont be coming back to the club.the club will move forward not BACKWARDS.
on a personal note i hope kenny will be manager next season, 1 season just in not enough time to build a title winning team.
i look forward to macca posting as it seems tht he is in the know when it comes to lfc.hopfully he can clear a few things up over the next cpl of hours.
i think its about time us lfc fans got behind our club till the end of the season and let the owners do there job rather than speculate what could happen
liverpool till i die ynwa jft96
mrbrown
At last some logic applied to the situation. Well done Mr Brown. Agreed with everything you have said. So many extreme comments flying around from people who are not armed with facts. For all anyone knows Comoli was being begged to stay by the owners. ALL SPECUALTION. For me I hope Kenny stays - I believe improvements in results are close. In every game we play - we have an unbelieveable amount of efforts on target - the team is attacking and needs to gel together. I am convinced they will be stronger next season - MAYBE NOT even champions - maybe not top 4 - BUT definitely a considerable amount of more points in the league than they currently have. NJV
It's not rocket science why you call yourself mrbrown! as you do talk a lot of the brown stuff!
Another no name idoit be a man defend what you say.
mrbrown
Well said Mr Brown!
Kenny to stay, NO TO RAFA!
K. Bennett
12 Apr 2012 12:29:36
I'm sure yesterday someone said there would be big news coming out of Liverpool today. So either, cheers for the heads up or well done at taking a wild stab in the dark and it actually being correct!
davethebutcher
12 Apr 2012 12:03:31
Hi ed's I've noticed roberto martinez at liverpool games this season,do u reckon fsg could appoint kenny as director of football and give martinez the job, I as a fan would be happy with something like that! Thoughts ??? DHH L20 Scouser Y..N..W..A {Ed001's Note - it is certainly a possibility.}
I go to the games doesnt mean am going to be there next manager ffs stop speculating with boring s**t
mrbrown
I always find mid table managers don't understand the pressures of a big club like Roy trying to draw away games for me it has to be Jose mour... Jokes I would love marcel bielsa or perhaps unai emery but you need a manager that speaks English
12 Apr 2012 12:28:30
things are starting to get weird Damien comolli does have a good record on signings in the past i do suspect that most of the summer signings were not totally of his choice maybe even he had very little input other than being lfc's pen man.
think that some choppy waters lie before us .
i do however believe that fenway are good owners.
todays sacking is not resting well with me for some reason dc does have an excellent track record with transfers .
anyway im only a lowly coach from a lowly division .
be well all thank you mal....
DC got sacked because of kenny's mistakes.
By the way nobody knows dc got sacked!it might just be that he has been offered a job with uefa,ands its the first time that he has had the chance to tell henry and co.due to them never been here
mrbrown
12 Apr 2012 12:28:23
Good luck Damian and thanks for your help.
DaveyBootle
12 Apr 2012 12:25:40
Rafa will return
I did not know rafa's agent came on this site.
12 Apr 2012 12:22:50
Could this mean daglish taking over as director of football?? And a new manager coming in?
Are you crazy have you seen the players he signed.
12 Apr 2012 12:22:39
Commoli gone, dalglish upstairs, all dummy's that were bought gone. RAFA RETURNS to make us a great team again. AND that's the bottom line COS STONE COLD SAID SO!!
The bad guy
12 Apr 2012 12:20:09
Go Fenway...... failure is not an option....love it
12 Apr 2012 12:18:46
17 Mar 2012 11:46:27
ed do you think damien comollis job could be under threat at the end of the season {Ed001's Note - no.}
Could things change that quickly?
GuvTOB {Ed001's Note - yep, I thought it would be Kenny making way, I was completely wrong on that one, I thought FSG had faith in what DC was telling them. I did expect a reshuffle, I didn't realise they would see through Comolli though. I expected it to concentrate on PR after the way the Suarez episode was handled.}
Ed001
Kudos to you for admitting you were wrong. maybe DC was brought in cos of Roy rather than KK. Maybe we don't need a director of football.
12 Apr 2012 12:06:12
throwing it out there if Sterling played in the Brazilian league people would be saying he's better than Neymar.
Sterling seems like he'll be a solid player, but he's no Neymar.
12 Apr 2012 12:03:40
What are the chances of Benitez being the new director of football? He loves the club, lives in the area and knows a lot about football. He also knows a lot more about football round europe and would increase our chances of signing javi martinez, munian, soldado
I really hope this is the case. Why have a director of football who talks about "projects".
LFC is our club. Rafa loves our club. He is a true adopted son and his knowledge of the game is awesome. I remember RAFA brought in Kenny back from the cold to oversee the acadamy. Maybe this its Kennys way of paying him back? Imagine Rafa`s technical knowledge and Kennys man managment......I just hope this comes off. It would really make sense. Roll on the summer.
Get rafa back as manager and move kenny into something else.
safa
12 Apr 2012 12:03:38
Just a thought but could Comolli's leaving perhaps be a way of re-introducing Rafa to the fold?...Perhaps with us being linked with Soldado and Munain Rafa's input could be viewed as valuable?
I don't usually pester the ED's but would appreciate some feedback on this (If only to call me an idiot!)
ANFIELDPETE {Ed001's Note - I just don't see any reason for them to take that route whatsoever.}
12 Apr 2012 12:00:45
hey edd1 any idea what's the idea behind dc going,especially now a few days before a big game,?it does not make any sense to do it now instead of waiting until may.
frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - the timing is the only surprise really, but he had to go.}
12 Apr 2012 11:54:38
ed do you have any idea whether FSGs problem was with Comolli himself and will appoint a successor, or simply decided to scrap the idea of a Director of Football altogether? {Ed001's Note - just check Comolli's track record, this is what always happens with him.}
12 Apr 2012 11:53:50
"No More Footsteps from Comoli"
A little surprised that DC was the first to be shown the door - for that's my reading of it. Just ever so slightly concerned that it's the first panic measure. What is more worrying is that FSG brought in Comoli and allowed him to get on with recruitment.
If that was the case, then how much input did KK have (surely a great deal considering his role at the club) and why was his purchase of Carroll/Henderson not questioned earlier?
These things may have happened and naturally we were not part of that. My real concern is that DC's sacking suggests the original plan was flawed.
SP
Hendo Rocks!
12 Apr 2012 11:51:00
with comolli going it leaves a place open for kenny to move upstairs to the director of football job and get a new manager in does anyone else think this might happen thanks
Yip, I think very likely!.
We must keep our living legend.
Maybe a role like Sir Bobby Charlton at Man U.
Right now, happy DC is gone, well done to FSG it shows real intent!.
12 Apr 2012 11:50:21
So Comoli is gone. I don't buy that mutual consent stuff though tbh. The details of this situation will be interesting to say the least!
What I will say though that if it comes out that he mainly to blame for our shortcomings (be it transfers or whatever) I wonder how many people will apologize for laying all the blame at Kenny's door? Hmmm, I wonder
Anyways, let's all get behind the team for the semi final!
Ps, in my opinion......if we win the FA Cup, Kenny will stay.
Y.N.W.A
K. Bennett
Love it m8 and dnt think anybody could of said it better in kenny we trust
mrbrown
12 Apr 2012 11:49:59
Well, lovable French genius and master entrepreneur Damien "Del Boy" Commolli has parted company with Liverpool........
Let the conspiracies begin.........!!!
ANFIELDPETE
12 Apr 2012 11:44:44
teeno1lpool - Comolli has gone, finally, eds do you see someone coming in who will have good knowledge now of players to come to our team, And is this the start of a new era. KK to have 1 more season.
12 Apr 2012 11:48:57
Must say I'm surprised by the leaving of Damien Comolli, one of the 1st appointments of FSG era.
Was there any inkling that this was going to happen? Any ideas on whether the position will be scrapped entirely or a new man to be brought in?
RedSG
12 Apr 2012 11:44:42
Eds do you think that they could of timed it a bit better than the eve of the semi? Everton must be laughing there socks off.
Danny {Ed001's Note - the timing would never be perfect, it might just be the boost required...}
Thats just it ed, do you not think that the timing might just end up being perfect.
just a thought
mrbrown {Ed001's Note - it might be, hopefully, I certainly don't see it as a bad thing.}
Its "pull your socks up time" at Anfield
12 Apr 2012 11:41:12
I've heard that liverpool are appealing doni's red card. Now am i correct in thinking that whilst the appeal is pending doni can still play? And if so does this mean that he is available for the cup game on saturday?
Ps. I'm very sorry if none of this is true and i am making an a** of myself
Tyrone
We have appealed but expect this to be heard tomorrow
12 Apr 2012 11:40:52
Hi Eds, who's likely to be negotiating our transfer targets now? What do u make of the timing of Comolli leaving? {Ed001's Note - Comolli was only part of the team, nothing has changed really. The timing is strange but he is a proud man.}
12 Apr 2012 11:40:40
eds because commolli isnt there anymore does that mean we will repalce him and have diffrent transfer targets? {Ed001's Note - no.}
12 Apr 2012 11:39:28
With the departure of Comolli, does this mean a return of Rafa in Comollis role? Or Kenny moving into that role and Rafa returning as Manager? I for one want Kenny to succeed as Manager but if Rafa returns as Director of Football and things were to go Wrong for Kenny (hope not) then Fenway have their replacement already?
12 Apr 2012 11:39:15
hi, EDs, i have a question about the transfer budgets. Well, at the beginning at the season, we signed a deal with warrior sports, worth 70 mil or so. will that be added to the transfer? how does it work exactly? {Ed001's Note - it is not 70m, and it just goes into the club's accounts to be used where it is needed. It will have little effect on budgets.}
12 Apr 2012 11:37:14
EFC FAN HERE GOOD LOOK FOR SATURDAY LETS HOPE ITS A GREAT DAY FOR MERSEYSIDE AND NO TROUBLE WE ALL OWE IT TO THE 96 GOOD LOOK LET THE BEST TEAM WIN
JUSTICE FOR THE 96
Nice post and well said.
Thank you. Fine words.
ND
Thank you mate - It is going to be a wonderful site at Wembley - Red and Blue & families together, win or lose.
Justice for the 96.
Lee YNWA
12 Apr 2012 11:26:42
Eds, LFC have confirmed that Comolli left the club by mutual consent. I surely didn't see this one coming. Especially at this time. I thought he's doing a good job (I remember John Henry said nice things about DC, that DC has not gotten the praise he deserve). Is the position for KD so FSG can appoint a new manager this summer? Any info Eds?
Feedback would be much appreciated.
Cheers, Eds!
-MG- {Ed001's Note - that is what I would expect, just surprised by the timing, but Comolli was always going to be an issue.}
12 Apr 2012 11:25:42
Hi Eds and Reds
Eds..Just heard that Comolli has left the club..just wondering what you have heard regarding this and what you think.
Cheers
atlfc70
12 Apr 2012 11:30:26
Congratulations to the Fenway Group in showing how to run a business the correct way, failure is not an option.
Read into it what you like but the truth is Comoli has been sacked, the spin on the story is he left for personal reasons.
It's not looking good for Kenny either, come the end of the season expect Kenny to follow Comoli...
Curled1
12 Apr 2012 11:29:29
So, Comolli has been sacked. I feel that KD too will go in the summer whether or not we win the FA Cup!
12 apr 2012 11:28:29
commolli is off
and werner backing kenny ahead of the semi final..
it might be nothing but i think we will see kenny stay next season...would it be fair to say that commolli got the boot for his failure to attract top players and poor choices in the ones we got ?
12 Apr 2012 11:28:06
Any chances of Dalglish maybe stepping into the role of Commoli, possible reason for him going or maybe even Rafa
Not sure but Rafa normally likes controll of the whole set up there probably wouldn't be any body above him in any kind of scouting role plus im not sure KK has the connections or pulling power in the spanish leagues and if Macca rumours are correct then it looks like two great players are being targeted from the spain. If Kenny goes I wonder whether Suarez and Carroll would be out the door provididng some funds for the two strikers mentione by Macca. All ifs and maybes but something is happening and its nice to see owners getting a grip of the club and acting for a change something weve been missing for a long time.
12 Apr 2012 11:11:14
eds i no use will be buzzy now with damien comolli questions but do u think they blame him not kenny this is what
Liverpool Chairman Tom Werner added: "The Club needs to move forward and we now have a huge game on Saturday. It is important that everyone joins us in supporting the manager and gets behind Kenny and the team i think they are going to stand by kenny you thoughts please
liverpool till i die
{Ed001's Note - Kenny was never going to be sacked, and one of them had to go.}
12 Apr 2012 11:07:10
Why has Comolli been sacked Ed is it because of some of his signings being flops possibly.
Cheers YNWA
Greg {Ed001's Note - there is a lot more to the issue than any signings, it is just a strange timing, I thought the reshuffle would happen at the end of the season.}
I think ed 01 is right regarding the timing, however maybe somethings changed that has forecd there hand into removing comolli early.
12 Apr 2012 11:27:50
Commolli gone- dalglish appointed director of football, what about a left field appointment of carragher has player manager- kenny was a left field appointment by liverpool in the 80's! Every1 kept slagging off the money we paid for carroll,downing,henderson and adam! Somebody had to be accountable, sorry commolli, let's hope what happened at spurs: where is signings turned out brilliant bale and modric, so in a year henderson and carroll will be top quality! Y..N..W..A! Keep believing!
Carragher? are you havin a laugh? He'd get us playing hoofball.. I don't think he's the right guy at all. We need someone with an attacking mindset
The only 1 i can remember in last 20yrs with good attacking ability was evans just maybe he might get a job as a coach.
mrbrown
Noooooooooooooo, carra are you for real. he has no experience of management and most probably no coaching badges.
12 Apr 2012 11:26:11
Just wonder if this all ties in with dalglish moving upstairs in summer ?
12 Apr 2012 11:24:44
Kenny to be pushed upstairs druing the summer?
12 Apr 2012 11:23:37
eds/macca what do u think will happen now comolli has left? will kk drop into his role and we will bring another manager in? or will we just bring a new DOF in? thanks
12 Apr 2012 11:10:32
With Commolli now departed, will this change the targets for the summer eds do you think? I no its early doors but your opinions would be grateful after all the talks of certain players etc...
Chris1977YNWA {Ed001's Note - it will make a difference as to which players the scouts are instructed to watch, yes. But he never had the final say anyway.}
12 Apr 2012 11:05:16
Hey eds do yous think comolli will be replaced or will they give kenny full charge of transfers ?
Darzokid {Ed001's Note - I would expect the replacement is likely to be Kenny myself.}
Do you mean Kenny will be relieved of his managerial duties to go upstairs or he will get full control?
Martin {Ed001's Note - move upstairs.}
12 Apr 2012 11:22:01
David dein to replace commoli
Someone with the reputation of David Dein would be a great addition to LFC, but he is Arsenal through and through so no chance. Don't think he is a DoF, but he was a major influence in the success years of Arsenal.
Personally I can see Brian Barwick coming into the club, vast experience in football and media and also a Liverpool fan
RedSG
12 Apr 2012 11:21:39
"Fenway Sports Group and Liverpool FC confirmed today that Director of Football Damien Comolli has left the Club by mutual consent.
Principal Owner John Henry said: "We are grateful for all of Damien's efforts on behalf of Liverpool and wish him all the best for the future."
Liverpool Chairman Tom Werner added: "The Club needs to move forward and we now have a huge game on Saturday. It is important that everyone joins us in supporting the manager and gets behind Kenny and the team and focuses on a strong finish to the season."
Damien Comolli commented: "I am grateful to have been given the opportunity to work at Liverpool and am happy to move on from the Club and back to France for family reasons. I wish the Club all the best for the future." (from the LFC website) ra1969
12 Apr 2012 11:21:03
at the weekend whilst on a stag weekend in benidorm i met a lfc season ticket holder who said to me that comolli was gonna be sacked and rafa was gonna come back as director of football.
i add that i totally dismissed this suggestion, now 4 days later stage 1 has happened. who knows the final outcome but what would we all think of this?
light hearted discussion please x
s.p
Could be brilliant, though its hard to see how someone like rafa would allow the manager do his job without wanting to control everything. But maybe thats the plan , to evolve away from the old style manager
Benitez back as Manager, great combination with Clarke and Dalglish given D of F albeit with reduced influence
Rafa has rejected many dof roles why would he change his mind when it came to us
He is a football manager not a director of football
Bean
12 Apr 2012 11:19:24
Principal owner Henry added: "We are grateful for all of Damien's efforts on behalf of Liverpool and wish him all the best for the future."
translates as "just not good enough"
12 Apr 2012 11:04:30
Dear Ed,
Following the announcement of Commolli's sacking and i know its still very early days but is there a replacement in place that u may have any news on? Also in your personal opinion do u see the value of having someone in that sort of role or are there possibilities that they simply stepping on each others toes?.... Great site ! {Ed001's Note - in my opinion, this has paved the way for Kenny to change his role within the club. Allow him to return to finding gems like Shelvey with a bit of luck.}
12 Apr 2012 11:18:26
i have a feeling that kenny will probably take over DC's old job with rafa probably being brought back to manage on a 4 year contract until the old bootroom system can be re-established.
Can't see Rafa Benitez taking on DoF role, but shipping out Comolli does suggest some potentially significant changes on the horizon
The Squirrel
12 Apr 2012 11:16:54
Now that Comolli has gone who do you think will fill in his role?
Personally id like to see Benitez be given the role as he did unearth some World class players such as Torres, alonso, Mascherano and Reina.
Its players like that that got us near the top. When he had money he had some great signings.
Tom
YNWA
He unearthed Reina yes for about 6m. And alonso was fairly unknown even though he cost 12 mil at the time. HOWEVER Torres was the worlds most sought after striker and Masherano was a world cup star at only 20 years old he hardly unearthed those two.
Your right about Torres and Mascherano being world class and sought after player's! but who brought them to LFC?
Plus he signed Ngog, El Zhar, Babel, Kewell, Insua, Degen, Itandje, Morientes etc
KiwiRed
But torres and mash' signed for raffa , because raffa is special even though i think he did a lot of things wrong but don't we all.red mick tag
He didnt sign el zhar or kewell. Don't think anyone expected morientes to be a flop either. As many mistakes as rafa made he still is a brilliant manager and tactician. Plus i would have loved to see what our suqad would look like now if he was given 115 million. A lot better than it does now!
Rafa or AVB to be next manager!
YNWA
Derry Dan
12 Apr 2012 11:16:53
Well, Comolli has gone!. Is he being used as a scapegoat to allow us to get rid of certain signings this summer. will we blame him for carrolls signing, or downing etc etc.. I dont think it helps having 2 people arguing over who to sign. I think we need a new manager, and some real flair (RW, CF, AM), and we will be challenging next season. Carroll, hendo etc will come good.
Support the team whoever plays. YNWA
Lincoln Red
Where you from in Lincoln
Lyndon
12 Apr 2012 11:15:35
07 Apr 2012 09:24:41
Solgado is the number one target for striker.
This does not mean it will happen but it is who they want..
Also the second is Munian..
Again please do not shoot the messenger.
Things can change....
Cheers
Macca
The exiting thing now is if theese players are wanted by Dalglish or Comolli? What do you say macca or eds?
Maccas answer to every possible signing for lfc has always been things can change. if he said we were hoping to sign messi, but things can change would we still hold this great belief he knows something we dont? he said the same in the jan transfer window and nobody signed. it just seems to be his get out clause. lfc are aiming to sign llorente, higuain, a johnson, de jong and finally resign torres. however this is coming from the horses mouth things can change. we might not get them.
billy
12 Apr 2012 11:15:04
King Keny to be director of football next year.
12 Apr 2012 11:13:11
So Eds/Macca what your understanding on the Comolli situation. Sacked? Left by mutual consent? Has Kenny had something to say? Very interesting
thanks
RedDan {Ed001's Note - pushed out the door as far as I am concerned.}
12 Apr 2012 11:12:57
24 Mar 2012 17:32:12
COMOLI should be first for the GUILLOTINE.
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Why!
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Where's the person who questioned my suggestion that Comoli should be first to go ? :)
12 Apr 2012 11:11:53
Commoli fired that might save daglish
Its just the begining of a clear out
12 Apr 2012 11:11:25
dont snap at macca if soldado and munian dont come to liverpool because damien commolis sacking could mean that the targets will be changed
fixbyred
12 Apr 2012 11:08:29
Good morning fellow FA CUP semi-finalists
Your favorite Toffee here...I do hope the rest of the week is a bit more quiet for you...
I mean you don't need anything controversial to happen now at this late stage do you?
Surely that's not the LFC way is it...
Wait a minute I'm getting strange messages from the rumour mill...it can't get any better than this lol:)
A board room commotion Comoli bites the dust...
Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear...
Lovin it:)
Blue247
When was the last time everton were any good many moon's ago
Not really a Disaster is it!
If your wanting to have a dig use your head and wait until it's something were bothered about!!
My Comedy !!
Lyndon
Yawn
The Squirrel
Just for a laugh - i can picture it now,THE SHOOTOUT,dalglish wearing a 10 gallon hat and poncho with a cigar in his gob wearing a pair of bennyhill glasse,s.and commoli wearing a berret, black and white jumper with a string of onions around his neck.the winner,first one to offer a reasonable explaination as to what has went wrong, writes it down and hands it to, "john hurry up im late for a botox appointment henry".comoli -i bought the english players ken wanted plus the foreigners that ken knows nothing about,he plays them out of position and frankly hasnt got a clue.kenny -%%EC&*ONOMNLFVT YDJI&^$£$$ UIYPFDRL>L>LO*&YTVVF VJGK F£££££££$$$$$$$$jkXDFGH GJKL DGH,john polyurathene henry-damian its obvious to me your not in tune with the liverpool fans,and that explaination will go right over their heads,quite frankly its gibberish poor kenny told me he wanted a centre forward and you got him a striker,what the hell damian,any wonder AC just stands there hes waiting for a hand out.whats that ken UIOT^*%^E££££££VFTYTYTYBY SCA LG$$$$$BV NKJKLM
Think someones forgotten to take their medication this mornin...
DarrenMAC
Oh no! Not Comolli!! He can't leave just before the cup semi-final! I had a fiver on him to score the winner!!
Kev79
Kev79...Ha ha ha And I bet the odds were shorter on him... than any of the muppets your daft manager picks:))))))))
DeepblueT
12 Apr 2012 11:02:51
Speaking on the Liverpool website, Comolli said: "I am grateful to have been given the opportunity to work at Liverpool and am happy to move on from the club and back to France for family reasons. I wish the club all the best for the future." Has he left for family reasons or has he been sacked?
Danny
12 Apr 2012 11:02:35
Is this so kenny can move to director of football next season and make way for a younger manager
12 Apr 2012 11:01:39
So with damien comoli being sacked would that mean kenny moving into his role and maybe another manager coming in ?
12 Apr 2012 10:59:02
So Comolli has been 'sacked'.
Just thinking out loud does this mean a vacancy 'up' there that Kenny will take and a new manager bought in for next year? Strange, I know there is a heck of a lot of venom surrounding the club at the moment but i did kind of think Kenny would've been given another year, specifically based on cup form. However unpleasant his body language is in interviews etc etc.
Got my tickets for Saturday - by one of the corner flags and 13 rows from the pitch. Can't wait. nervous as heck but can't wait. A win on Saturday will mean the world to many of us and lets all hope and send good vibes to the team for 90 (or even 120+) minutes. If all goes wrong then afterwards I am sure the knives will be out but for the duration of the match lets all get behind the team as a whole and win.
Oh god i would love it if we beat them on Saturday. Hold on. Is that a jinxed saying? eeek.
Come on the reds
Joff
Not all clubs have a director of football
12 Apr 2012 10:59:00
Damien Comolli has been sacked.....So who is next
12 Apr 2012 10:58:53
Comolli sacked so no way Kenny is going anywhere this summer.
For me I'd bring Roy Evans back in to the club but I wonder how Benitez would do as a DoF? Would he fancy it?
Chris in Tamworth
Chris all you do is winge and moan,then you mention rafa.get it thru your thick skull rafa is not coming back to liverpool
mrbrown
@chris in tamworth,
whilst on a stag weekend in benidorm this weekend just gone i got talking to a lfc season ticket holder who was adamant that comolli was to be sacked and that rafa was to come in as DOF. i dismissed this possibility as drunken football banter between 2 fans but 4 days later comolli has gone.
i think he(rafa) would jump at the chance, a stepping stone in his mind to coming back as manager(which i'm not a fan of if im honest). only time will tell.
what does seem even more bizarre about this suggestion is that "macca" on here giving his insights about the possible arrival of soldado & muniain from spain, rafa benitez's homeland. maybe all coincidence but stil food for thought......
s.p
Or move Kenny 'upstairs' and install Benitez as manager with Roy Evans his assitant?
Ash
Mrbrown, I'm sorry if my opinions seem like moans to you and I'll try to rectify that. As for me needing to "get it through my thick skull" that Rafa won't be coming back if you had actually been reading my posts over the last few months you would see I have been very anti Benitez coming back as manager however I do have great respect for him as a man and was just asking a question. I'm sorry if I've offended you by doing so
Chris in Tamworth
I was very fortunate to be sitting in the same pub as Roy Evans recently. He was and still is a top guy with fantastic experience. He would certainly be a huge help to the club if needed Im sure hed do anything to help our wonderful club.
Tel 1949
12 Apr 2012 10:57:05
HEY LFC FANS..............
ohhh myyyyyyyyyy..........so commoli is gone!!
eds.......macca.......obama........el presidente...........anyoneeeeeeeee
tell me whats going on!!!!!!!
red lobster
You keep falling asleep over your keyboard and your forehead keeps pressing the same key over and over again. Least, that might be one answer to your question......
12 Apr 2012 10:57:02
Jones
Skartel Carregar Coates
Jhonson --Agger--- Enriqe
Gerrard
Bellamy Maxi
Suarez
Roman-Red
Good man 6 defenders ?
jeff:)
Agger is best in DM Jhonson and Enriqe will do well in wing .
12 Apr 2012 10:55:34
thanks comolli for your wonderful contribution to the club
12 Apr 2012 10:52:59
COMOLLI GONE !! PRAISE THE LORD !!!!1
12 Apr 2012 10:49:34
Does anyone know when the new kit will be unveiled?
1. june
They usually play in the new kit in the last game of the season.
12 Apr 2012 10:48:25
Thought i would have a bit of a change of scenery on this page.. I think bottom 3 at present will be the ones who go down. But who does everyone think will get promoted, at the moment it is looking like southampton reading and I would like blackpool back (unlikely though) what's everyones thoughts. Next year is going to be even tighter.
Finally I just want to give praise to victor moses, who turned away from the opportunity to go to a big club to get game time and he is getting better and better. Do you think he is England material for the future?
Kind regards
The southern red
12 Apr 2012 10:48:09
To all those people including me that want young players like sterling in the first team this season dont be to disheartened when they dont appear on the teamsheet because im sure they will get a chance next season in the early stages of the europa league or if they are old enough they can go out on loan. and can ed or anyone else tell me if joao teixera has played yet or is he still injured.
fixbyred
12 Apr 2012 10:47:46
damien comolli has just left lfc???
didn't see that coming.
s.p
12 Apr 2012 10:47:12
Liverpool Director of Football Damian Commoli leaves club.
Any of the edds see this coming or know the reason why?
taffytel {Ed001's Note - I am trying to find out, but it is no surprise to us, none of us were keen on him being in place and always expected it to be doomed.}
12 Apr 2012 10:46:35
Comolli has gone
12 Apr 2012 10:43:20
Damien Comolli has been sacked
YoungRed
HALLELUJAH!!!
Didn't he leave for family reasons? I know its been quoted as 'mutual consent' and 'family reasons' and usually the terms are used by someone sacked. Can you shed any light Ed?
Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - it was always a matter of time, Comolli was always angling for more and more control, far beyond his remit.}
About time!
Comolli's quoted as saying on the Liverpool website that he's moving back to France for family reasons mate. Anything's just speculation.
Cuchulainn's Hounds
I have just seen it on liverpoolfc tv so I can confirm he is gone :)
Speedy
No, left the club by mutual consent.
Left by mutual consent!
Why does one person disagree with this
I think this could be just the start YoungRed mate. IMO, Kenny and Luis could also be away in the summer. FSG are ruthless people and will do what it takes, to get success. If that means getting rid of Commolli and Kenny, they won't lose any sleep over it.
Me personally am glad we have owners like this. They want success just as much as we do, long may it continue.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Think the poster who disagreed to the mutual consent post is that they think he was sacked! don't think it was personal!
12 Apr 2012 10:31:37
"A Footstep from Comoli"
Tuned in to watch Borussia Dortmund at home to die Bayern last night. Good game. Exciting and some interesting talent on show. But it wasn't the Premier League; not my words as I'm a fan of die Bundesliga***, but possibly the words of many posters I've read on here. The PL is all that matters and people can always come up with reasons why it's "the best league in the world!"
No time to delve into that bag of worms but it does lead me onto another ramble through an empty space! :)
More than two decades ago we were either first or nowhere. Isn't that what Shankly once said about finishing second? All that mattered was the title; 20 years later it's simply a race for fourth that occupies the majority of teams in the PL. Of course we talk about the title - as Ed Balls talks about being in power - but these days it's a case of racing for fourth. Others are not immune to this mental cheat either; Chelsea and Arsenal ,even the awkward Spurs have talked in such terms. That's all that matters in reality - finishing in the top four. It's an acceptance that like this country, we no longer have an empire and 'just being involved' is all that counts.
There are thousands of fans who scream "no!" and then say we want to win the title. We all do, but so many posters are also happy to see us back in Europe where they say we belong. In the Bundesliga it is only the title that matters and monster clubs like die Bayern and Dortmund feel cheated to finish third and below. That's where we used to be and the way we used to think. I'd still like us to win the title and yet with the 'failsafe' of Champions' League, it seems many fans are content to be back in our spiritual home.
Trouble is we have fallen from even that next level down: now we can't get past the quarter-finals of the Europa League and yet we still go on about the title. Like most of my meanderings (as wisely pointed out by so many eloquent scribes and posters) this won't go anywhere, as LFC is not really going anywhere at present. The title is as far away as ever. The usual "can't wait till next season!" postings appear. We spend millions on players many of us are stunned by (in both ways) and then we moan when we can't even finish in the top four. Hang the title, that was decades ago we were really worried about that!
This is the fault of our belief that the Premier League is the 'bestest, most brill and t'riffic league in the whole history of the world for all time - ever!' Really? It's just a ramp to the CL and pots of cash; winning it isn't as important anymore and come the real European League in 5,7,11,14 years time ...... who'll give a toss about a team that's won 20 tiles, 18 or just two? We still yearn for the title because we haven't won it for two decades, because we won it 18 times and because MUFC are are closest rivals. If the question was would you rather win the PL or just qualify for the CL (if there was a clear distinction and no auto promotion to CL football) I suspect the fans would say PL. I rather suspect FSG would say CL.
A lot of people posting are liars and cheats - me included. We lie about what we want and cheat ourselves that winning the title is all that matters. We've spent what? Maybe £125 million in the past six years and we're no further forward. But maybe we are - after all, if we qualify for Europe, what else matters to a Red?
.........
*** The Bundesliga. Younger than the Premier League and just as exciting. Not as overhyped by the media and packed with as many stars as the PL. Keep saying the PL is the only one anyone wants to watch and ask what will happen if SKY pulls the plug? Don't say it can't happen. Who'd have thought the BBC would lose F1 and why couldn't you give televised football away in the late 70s? Hype is good!
Before I go (and totally unrelated to football) I'd like to ask the BBC a question:
Why don't you have snooker on the radio?
After all, you have golf and that's just as visual on the airwaves ......
(Answers in HD only in an email)
Steve Parker
Al Jazeera are going to outbid Sly, when the next PL rights is up for grabs. There will be no shortage of takers, if Sly pulled the plug mate. ESPN is another one who are apparently ready to bid for the main PL package.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
With Comolli gone, it looks like a 'footstep with Comolli posts' are about to end ? ......when are you starting on the latter day bible Steve ?
tel 1949
Tel 1949
Sarcasm? Possibly the highest form of entertainment.
Just ignore what I write if it's too long or boring.
SP
Steve,
Sorry mate not sarcasm...'banter' gone wrong im afraid. I like most of your posts...HONEST !!
tel 1949
12 Apr 2012 10:20:31
Team V Everton
..............Jones.........
Johnson...Skrtel...Coates...Enrique.
Gerrard...Henderson...Agger...Bellamy..
Suarez...Maxi
The Kingpin
Support your selection. but Kenny may Drop Maxi. I wish Maxi got the start with Suarez. and I have the feeling that Maxi will score .
R-R
Perfect!
Why would agger be playing midfield?? And gerrard be playing on the wing??
Shanio1
Carroll has to play
No shelvey?
12 Apr 2012 09:36:13
Post Wembley: Cant wait for fans to either blow smoke up KK's backdoor or call for the sack, plus Hendo etc to be sold! Going to Wembley lads to cheer on the mighty reds, meeting up with my bitter toffee mate who is going down a few days earlier and taking my son to his first Wembley visit. I wont predict a score but I will predict that I will still be a die hard red after the game, still support KK and think Hendo will be a great player in a few yeras, just like Carra and Lucas who got slaughtered. Keep the faith boys! Remember if you are that miserable go and support the bitter blues.
YNWA EVO
Whether we win or lose on Saturday we have to park our love for the club/KK and be honest about our progress this season. The main problem in my book is our inconsistancy. On our day we can beat anyone but so many times this season we have failed to produce a result. This is not about me being a moaner but actually its about looking at the facts. I think their is a lack of consistant belief and responsibility in our players when things get tough. Until last night too few players have stepped up to the plate and if anything most have withdrawn into their shells. I firmly believe this is a man management problem and something we can work on next year but I can't help thinking that there may be a better management team out there.
12 Apr 2012 09:07:57
To cozinoz:
I trash our club's players bcoz i think they r c**p. Hoilett is a very good player who had one ordinary day in office. U cant say the same abt ur dear andy carrol n adam, who have had only 2 or 3 good games in a season. Give credit to talent, whether the player plays for ur club or not. U can trash rooney all u want, but the truth is that he is the only world class player england has n will have for many years to come. Passion for football comes first, club comes next.
How can u be a liverpool supporter if u r not a football fan? The only reason why i dont praise liverpool's players is coz i think most of them r midtable players, n thats my opinion, n they have done nothing to be called 'future liverpool captain' or 'liverpool's future legend' or whatever. Apart from suarez and agger, we do not have any world class players left.
Indian Buzzer
Someone needs a hug
The Squirrel
You just slipped up ther Indian Buzzer, your obviously a Manc supporter masquerading as one of us.
The clue ?
You referred to LFC as 'your' and praised Rooney on this site, go get a life.
Go back to your trash can lad, we are not interested....weve got another game at Wembley on Saturday !!
Tel 1949
Skertyl?
I think the players we have are better than what theyve shown for most of this season.
Spriggo
Something tells me a hug would not be good enough. It would be mid table hug at best as we do not have anybody with a truly world class hug.
Dirks Engine Room
Rooney is world class?
Only in the eyes of the English media
Chris in Tamworth
I'm losing the will to live.
DaveyBootle
You just showed your true colours, Buzzer - after months of masquerading as a Liverpool fan (while slating Kenny, Carroll, Hendo, Carra and Downing) it is obvious where your allegiances lie. I've never once seen you write anything positive about my team.
At the very least you are the most bitter and negative poster on this page......on the other end of the scale you are most likely from Salford. Either way you are transparently NOT a SUPPORTER of Liverpool FC.
cozinoz
Do you want a hug Davey?
Melbourne CFC
Hoilett is an ordinary player who's had a few good days
The Squirrel
God what a depressing post from Indian Buzzer. And because you think theyre crap that gives you the right to abuse them? Can you play better than them? And Hoillet? A good player?? HA!!! He has done nothing to prove he is any better than Sterling, a couple of glimpses but thats all. As ed022 says a couple of glimpses doesnt make a class player.
KiwiRed
Buzzer is a manc and always has been...its a wind up, just ignore him
Tel 1949
U can call me manc if u want, but im not. I crave for success, n the club doesnt look to be on the road to success. We have bought ordinary players for exorbitant prices, n that was a mistake. Im glad commoli is gone, n i hope kenny moves upstairs n a younger manager comes in. Btw, shrek is england's best player by a mile. Most football fans here think he is, n so do i. If stevie had still been in his mid twenties though, i wud have gone for him. I have a right to my opinion,n im not afraid to post them.
Indian Buzzer
12 Apr 2012 09:03:12
Just a question. Do people really think that there is an anti-LFC media bias? We have a fair few Liverpool old boys working in the media, it seems unlikely that there is an agenda against us. If there was an agenda, how did Souness, Redknapp, Lawrence, Hansen and Thommo get jobs?
Ash
I think the liberal media (ie. The Guardian) has turned against us following the Suarez case
Red Ollie
Some people may suggest that the anti-sun stance taken by the club and supporters MAY influence certain journalists throughout the slippery, seedy dark world which is journalism. To be fair, it's not necessarily a reflection of the club but stems from the people of Liverpool having a proud and defence minded mentality, and people need to understand that.
DaveyBootle
''I think the liberal media (ie. The Guardian) has turned against us following the Suarez case''
Infamy infamy ...they've all got it in for me LOL:)
Oh dear it's another paranoid RS...
What next Hicks and Gillette were hired assassins bought and paid for by those pesky red devils hee hee hee:-0
Or Woy was really Peter Reid in disguise(those bitter toffees would stop at nothing pmsl )
Ha ha ha ha ha
This forum has got some real crazy funny mugs...
But you know what I'm lovin it ...
Blue247;)
I think the Sky TV/News International/Sun Axis of Evil has had an agenda since the 80's although its easy to get paranoid. Problem is, they are also the lowest common denominator in each form of media
The Guardian has had an anti- Liverpool bias for years. Surprising as they despise the Stun as much as we do. They were complicit in the misrepresentation of the Suarez affair and their attempts to stick the knife into KK have been numerous. Their football coverage in general is poor. The press in general hate us probably because many if their reporters grew up as kids when we were winning everything. The best coverage we've had of late has been, amazingly, Ratboy on Sly, who I take my hat off to as an honest and knowledgable pundit. Stick on on the bitters and they'll find some way to suggest we cheated the win. Lose and it will be open season on KK. And sadly this site will see some of the worste comments. I'm going to have the day off and enjoy the game.
ND
I heard a statistic a couple of years ago that Liverpool have had more live games shown on Sky since it began than any other team. I can't see an agenda here!
Ash
You heard a statistic a couple of years ago? Wow. Rock solid facts there, Ash.
Some bloke down the pub said you're wrong so there goes your argument.
12 Apr 2012 09:03:07
Ed, just a couple of questions, I believe we were after Phil jones and Ashley young before utd came in, is that true? and was anyone else after Andy Carrol at the time? he was playing well and in the england team.
RNred {Ed002's Note - Try the search function and archive.}
Yes and Tottenham.
Ed002 likes to be difficult for the sake of it...its quicker just to answer ur question than to tell you to use the search function which doesnt actually work most of the time.
When are you Eds gonna realise that the search function is completely useless?
Nobody uses it...listen to ur audience, thats the first rule of marketing. We dont like the search function and it doesnt get used...stop directing us to use it, its a pointless exercise.
Leo {Ed002's Note - Leo the search function works perfectly well but if you want it removed from the Liverpool page I will have that arranged - I am sure you will then be a hero amongst your people. Why are you back? You were last seen threatening us and you were going to have this site shut down. We are still waiting.}
Maybe Leo needs a hug too
The Squirrel {Ed002's Note - Leo is simply a jerk who wants to shut this web site down.}
Hey, first time I've agreed with Ed002 this year. Leo is a jerk.
cozinoz
Don't get on at Ed2!
He had a very stressful day yesterday!
Lyndon
I use the search button often..
hope that helps ed`s,
cya leo!
dbadger.. {Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}
12 Apr 2012 08:42:34
Maxi has in fact scored 17 goals in 67 matches (25.3%) but has only actually scored in 11 matches (16.4%). What is often forgotten is that he scored 7 goals in 3 matches last season (an unsustainable rate of 2.33 goals per match). Let's be realistic - he is not the real answer to Liverpool's problems.
Dutchmal
And he often goes missing
Squirrel
If he's already scored the goals and we win then who cares
12 Apr 2012 01:46:35
My team vs Everton
..........................Jones...............................
.Johnsan.........Skrtel.....Agger.............Enrique.
..............Henderson.....Gerrard.....................
....Bellamy.............Suarez...............Maxi.......
..........................Carroll..............................
Bellamy didn't do enough apart from one assist.
Even with bellamy this team is very slow. to not play him would be a mistake in my opinion
NZL-red
You do realise an assist is only counted when a goal is scored don't you??
1 assist means we scored 1 goal because of him! and may well NOT have been scored without the run he made. i Suppose Iniesta was hopeless in the world cup because he only scored 1 goal in the final too?
I like it, but would probably push Gerrard to where you have Bellars and Shelvey back with Hendo holding.
Will be interesting to see what Kenny does!
RDL
Jones
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Shelvey Henderson
Maxi Gerrard Downing
Suarez
Spearing has got to start.
DaveyBootle
The winning team on Saturday will be:-
......................Howard......................
Neville......Heitings......Distin......Baines
..............Fellaini........Gibson.............
Osman.............Cahill...............Drenthe
.....................Jelavic.......................
Have a feeling the team will be:
Jones, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Henderson, Gerrard, Spearing, Downing, Suarez, Carroll in a 4-4-2
What I would like:
Jones, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Henderson, Gerrard, Bellamy, Shelvey, Suarez, Carroll in a 4-2-3-1
RedSG
Carroll must start, his performance on Tuesday was fantastic, this could be the start of something good
12 Apr 2012 01:10:23
My Liverpool FC – 2012/13 Season.
By RedChris
25 Man Squad:
1 GK Brad Jones
3 DF José Enrique
4 DF Mauricio Isla**
5 DF Daniel Agger
7 FW Luis Suárez
8 MF Steven Gerrard (c)
9 FW Roberto Soldado**
10 MF Cristian Tello**
11 MF Adam Johnson**
12 DF Martin Kelly
14 MF Jordan Henderson
16 DF Sebastián Coates
18 FW Luuk De Jong**
19 MF Stewart Downing
20 MF Jay Spearing
21 MF Lucas
23 DF Jamie Carragher (vc)
25 GK Pepe Reina (vc)
26 MF Charlie Adam
31 MF Raheem Sterling
32 GK Doni
37 DF Martin Škrtel
38 DF Jon Flanagan
39 FW Craig Bellamy
49 DF Jack Robinson
Under 21's/Reserves:
24 MF Toni Silva*
28 FW Adam Morgan*
30 MF Suso
34 MF Joăo Carlos Texieira*
44 GK Danny Ward
Out On Loan:
22 DF Danny Wilson
33 MF Jonjo Shelvey
35 MF Conor Coady
42 GK Péter Gulácsi
47 DF Andre Wisdom
– MF Krisztián Adorján
– FW Michael Ngoo
– FW Stephen Sama
2012 Summer Transfers.
Transfers IN:
Luuk De Jong £9m
Mauricio Isla £13m
Adam Johnson £16m
Roberto Soldado £20.5m (€25m)
Cristian Tello £8m (€10m)
Spending – £66.5m
Transfers OUT:
Andy Carroll £15m
Joe Cole £5m
Glen Johnson £12m
Dirk Kuyt £6m
Daniel Pacheco 500k
Maxi Rodríguez £3m
David Amoo Free
Fábio Aurélio Free
Stephen Darby Free
Nathan Eccleston Free
Emmanuel Mendy Free
Income + £41.5m
Net Spend – £25m
2012/13 Squad size.
Pepe Reina Steven Gerrard
Alexander Doni Lucas
Brad Jones Jordan Henderson
________________ Charlie Adam
Jay Spearing
Mauricio Isla Suso
Martin Kelly ________________
Jon Flanagan
________________ Adam Johnson
Stewart Downing
Daniel Agger Cristian Tello
Martin Škrtel Raheem Sterling
Sebastián Coates ________________
Jamie Carragher
________________ Luis Suárez
Roberto Soldado
José Enrique Luuk De Jong
Jack Robinson Craig Bellamy
Positions:
GK: Reina, Doni, Jones
RB: Isla, Kelly, Flanagan
CB: Agger, Škrtel, Coates, Carragher
LB: Enrique, Robinson
DM: Lucas, Spearing
CM: Gerrard, Henderson, Adam, Suso
RW: Johnson, Sterling
LW: Downing, Tello
ST: Suárez, Soldado, De Jong, Bellamy
Starting XI 1: 4-4-2
Reina
-Doni-
Isla Škrtel Agger Enrique
-Kelly- -Carragher- -Coates- -Robinson-
-Flanagan-
A.Johnson Lucas Gerrard Downing -Sterling- -Henderson- -Adam- -Tello-
-Spearing- -Suso-
Suárez Soldado
-De Jong- -Bellamy-
Starting XI 2: 4-3-3
Reina
-Doni-
Isla Škrtel Agger Enrique
-Kelly- -Carragher- -Coates- -Robinson-
-Flanagan-
Lucas
-Spearing-
Gerrard Adam
-Henderson- -Suso-
Suárez Tello
-A.Johnson- -Downing-
Soldado
-De Jong-
-Bellamy-
Starting XI 3: 3-5-2
Reina
-Doni-
Kelly Škrtel Agger
-Carragher- -Coates- -Wilson-
Isla Enrique
-Flanagan- -Robinson-
Lucas
-Spearing-
Henderson Gerrard
-Suso- -Adam-
Suárez De Jong
-Soldado- -Bellamy-
Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Henderson Lucas
Gerrard Suarez Muniain
Soldado
Gulucsi
Flanagan Kelly Coates Robinson
Shelvey Witzel
Phillips Adorjan Downing
Carroll
I wouldn't sell Carroll he could be in the process of turning his career around at Liverpool
12 Apr 2012 00:54:47
After we've all seen the average performances of many of our new signings I, like most, am interested in the decision making when regarding transfers.
Damien Comolli is the Director of football although could somebody please possibly tell me how much of a part he has played in the transfers that have happened in the last year and also whether Kenny Dalglish has the final say on transfers. I know this is very hard to tell but any insight will do because I am led to believe that Damien Comolli is on quite a hefty wage salary...
Thanks
Mr. Pink
All I know about Comolli is,, he lost his job at Arsenal and then got sacked by Spurs,, and no manager he's previously worked with has a good word to say about him.
So it's beyond me why he all of sudden was qualified to to be our Director of Football.
What exactly does he do??
Thanks,,,
Dublin red
In response to that last reply, Think his track record of players who he brought into Tottenham & Arsenal may make him qualified. Where are they both and where are we?
Also, no manager will like somebody else advising them on the direction of the team. Give him a few seasons, and the chance for the new young players to get ackimatised to liverpool fc. Only thenwill see how good or bad he has been.
Unless they are sold, next season Hendo, Carroll and Downing will be class. Takes time for some players. LFC a big club but they will settle. Not sure on Adam, not really a spot for him, maybe best to move for first team footie.
Comolli was recommended to FSG by Billy Beane, of Oakland Raiders and Moneyball fame.
Comolli is almost performing two roles at the moment. He has taken on some of the responsibilities our chief exec would normally undertake in terms of negotiating transfers and new contracts, as well as his scouting and recruitment roles.
He must be fairly persuasive as he managed to get Modric and Bale to join THFC, when they had bigger options available and Luis Suarez to Liverpool. Tottenham are certainly reaping rewards for some of his buys, hopefully in the years to come Liverpool will also.
RedSG
Now Comolli is performing no roles... In KK we trust now completely
NextGenRed
None of that matters anymore as he's just been canned.
12 Apr 2012 00:33:24
I would personal hate to see Carroll leave, i still believe (think i'm the only one) that he can be a monster of a player, maybe i'm wrong, what do i know, but broccoli it that's what i think!
MR EM
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You're right, he could become top class. But I'm starting to doubt whether he really wants to be...
Stone YNWA.
I think he does want to be a top player, but he doesn't want to be an LFC player.
Then again, if you left your boyhood club and then witnessed them leapfrog the club that you sold them out for, I don't think anybody would be too motivated.
It's clear to me he regrets his move and wants his old number back at Newcastle, and now envious of Cisse.
I would be sad to see him go, I think his potential is massive if he puts his mind to it. Trouble is that it's a hit or miss position, literally. If you do it well, you look like the prodigy of the country. If you do it wrong, you look like a donkey.
I would at least like to see him play for us for another season, he has finally hit some form. The squad has a few leaks, the performances have been much better than results suggest, and with him at the top of his game, we could turn so many of those dropped points into three points. We need him finishing the moves, not in the middle, that's where the critical problem is.
I remain that he could be lethal, whether he wants to play for us is another issue out of our hands.
Mr controversy
He simply doesnt get the service he got at newcastle
He does he just misses or hits the bar (which is still missing) or head straight DOWN to the keep. also his movement is rhubarb. he doesn't know where to be when we take free kicks or corners.
I agree with what someone posted yesterday. I believe that now he may just want to play for us and put in the kind of workrate we saw yesterday. The newcastle match made him realise that there is no way he can return to Newcastle nor would they want him to. He now realises he'd be as well give his all for us and try become an idol for us. I think this was evident in how he celebrated his goal, he was pumped and screamimg and sprinting and he looked ecstatic. Lets wait and see though.
KiwiRed
KiwiRed, I really would love for you to have hit the nail on the head. Kenny and Carroll should have a talk. Carroll can say he was homesick, but after the match at Newcastle he realized that part of his life was over. He is now focused 100 percent on us and will prove it in training and on the pitch.
Let us hope, eh!
McSnuggles
I thought before the Newcastle game that andy was feeling bad, but after the bad reception that he got that he wants to hurt them, they will still be in his heart but they have hurt him
If he keeps the aggressive attitude on the pitch them he could be a monster
12 Apr 2012 00:23:09
Anyone else seen Wigans disallowed goal against Manu
Absolutely Shocking!!
Lyndon
I wouldn't be calling for blood yet Lyndon mate, they can still mathematically catch you on points, goal difference could be deciding factor.
Melbourne CFC
I suppose the referees can only do so much to help United.
And as much as i dislike Al Fayed, at least he's shown the balls to speak out about it!
MR EM
Doesnt really shock me ... it is man utd after all
NZL_red
Melbourne CFC tut tut!!
You'll be getting yourself in trouble on here again matey!!!
It's been bit tense on here today!
Lyndon
Sorry Ed2 I have got sky TV
But I did have a priest round to Exorcise the HD+ box
and I don't think it was put together by Rupert Murdoch himself!!!
Lyndon
They should be 3 points nearer to us
If your Money Bags Owner hadn't of slipped the Linesman at your place a few Roubles!!
Lyndon
Melbourne, do you spend this much time on the Chelsea site?
AnfieldUSA
It was shocking, but United had a clear penalty turned down
Red Ollie
Yankee doodle dandy you have just visited the Chelsea page, so I think your well aware how frequently I post. Lyndon keep ya chin up buddy, you'll finish above Wigan. Melbourne CFC
Cheers Melbourne CFC
From a man who's team as been on fire all season that means alot!!!
Good luck with the Barcelona thing!
Lyndon
Ha on fire? In all honesty it doesn't surprise me you view Chelseas season that way buddy, but 6th isn't anything to be proud of! Standards really have dropped around here ey.
Melbourne CFC
Actually yeah lol, Melbourne posts often on that site I admit. But the funny thing is, he actually gets support there.
AnfieldUSA
Onwards and upwards Melbourne CFC
Hopefully
Lyndon!!
I think it is rather more funny that you think my rational for coming onto this site is to get support yankee doodle. I'm rather going the other route old mate. And how is it humorous exactly that a Chelsea supporter who posts on a Chelsea site gets support from the other Chelsea people? Could be time to put the bottle down
Yes Lyndon couldn't of said it better myself mate! I can only hope next year is better for both teams, it would be a little more enjoyable having a bit of banter with you steming from positive results rather than negative.
Melbourne CFC
12 Apr 2012 00:02:30
Just go to skysports' website and you'll know......there's no mention of Utd's defeat in the first page (Headlines), you can only see it if you open the "Football" page.
Jack D.
Picture of Giggs with the headline being ''United Gap Cup''. Then it rolled over to Man City with a picture of Tevez.
You can not un-see the third Orc from the left of the screen at 48:42 in Lord of the Rings : The Two Towers. :)
I hear Voices Everbodies against me!!!
Even the Man/woman imputing information on the Sky Sports website!!!!!
You can imagine 82 yrs old Rupert Murdoch
Straight on the phone to the website
" don't let Britain know that Manutd got beat tonight". NOT! -
Cant believe that. the media are always against us
I couldn't care less about Man utd.
Kev79
11 Apr 2012 23:51:30
I have a Question about Transfers and how they are reported in the media. Transfer fee + Wages = true cost.
Now fans have no idea how much a football club really has to spend on a player until the players Transfer + Contract are added together. We as fans should be told what the value of the deal is worth and how that stacks up with our wage bill.
eg if we have 110million wage + transfer paid budget per season. We should be told the cost of saving made by transferring out players eg 6.5million saved on wages. Then we would know what kind of players we could really afford at the football club. Rather than just talk about the player being only £10million.
None-sense, it's not championship manager, support the team, go the match and sing, shout, celebrate after a win, trudge home in the rain in the middle of november if we lose, go for a bevy, talk about the match to our mates, have banter with the blue half, thats our role as the supporter.
I really couldn't care less if a players on 20 grand a week or 20 quid as long as hes puttin in 200% for that red shirt!
I want the team to win football matches and win trophies, that's it!!
YNWA
ChrisJ
Agree, Joe Cole situation for example.
May of been free transfer, but his wages were/are enormous. Should really be documented inclusive of wages
Mr controversy