Liverpool Banter Archive September 11 2014

 

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11 Sep 2014 23:04:07
Hi all, Now the chaos has died down and most of the plastics have left for a while I wanted to ask how people found getting tickets recently? I and everyone I know who isn't a season ticket holder and only has light membership got nowt at the sale date yet Over the last few seasons I've managed to buy at both sale points during the previous 3 season. Really disappointed with the way the sales are handled and even if u do go as regularly as you can without being a season ticket holder this counts for nothing and you start from scratch every season.

I'm sadden not to be able to see my team this half (and I predict probably the rest) of the season. Resigned to be an armchair fan

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Here here man, hopefully this Anfield expansion will bring us non-season ticket holders a little more joy in the future.

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12 Sep 2014 08:44:41
Plastics? As in uni students that can't afford to travel to Liverpool and buy a ticket? Or am I plastic because I don't live in Liverpool? Hmm

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My mates had the same problem Dan.
It would be interesting to know if anyone on here was sucessful?

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Fully agree. I'm over from Australia with my wife in Oct/Nov and it was a lifelong dream to see Liverpool play at Anfield but the tickets are rarer than an England World Cup win. Might have to make do with a stadium tour and Match of the Day.

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Blocked there's never really been a better time in recent years to come to the UK, your dollars go so much further.You can ge tthe tickets from those ticket companies at £90. I play AFL and a great deal of the aussies that played for us would happily pay that, given how far their money went due to the exchange rate

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I noticed this year that the tickets this year sold out fairly quickly in the first members sale. Most properly due to the fact that after last years good form demand for tickets went up and the supply stayed the same.

I've managed to get a fair few tickets and even bought a ludogrets ticket yesterday on members sale so they aren't impossible to get.

As the tickets on your members card follow on the next year u can try and build up your games each season to get priority, also usually there are tickets left on members sale a few weeks before the game.

It is frustrating but u can see why the club do it, so they can try and get people in who regularly attend and can create an atmosphere.

Apologies for the rant but I know how frustrating it can be missing out on tickets. Although I'll be in the kop sat for the villa game :P

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What is a plastic fan? never fully understood what it is, would someone please explain, if someone called me a plastic fan I would poke him in the eye but I wouldn't know what for LOL

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12 Sep 2014 14:21:06
Jack

Thats the question of the year. Lols.

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12 Sep 2014 15:14:45
Put it this way - the plastic fans are the ones that you never even knew cared about football, never mind Liverpool, until about the 85th minute of the home game vs City last season. At which point they were the most dedicated Liverpool fans in the world. Until the point where Gerrard slipped about a week later, at which point they went back to claiming no allegience to any football team.

If you come from outside of Liverpool, if you don't get to many games or even any games, if you're overly critical to the point of embarrassment. you might be many things. But as long as you care full time, plastic you are not

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12 Sep 2014 16:00:28
Hjikle

The goal was in the 75th minute and around

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12 Sep 2014 16:11:19
I'm aware Reet. They didn't follow the huge game closely enough to notice as it happened though. Frankly, saying they started to notice within 10 minutes is generous

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11 Sep 2014 19:20:56
what do you reckon reds,

Lucas in for Gerrard saturday? Makes sense to me with CL on Tuesday,

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Premier League is more important, so no. Also, the Villa game should be harder anyway imo.

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11 Sep 2014 20:43:01
Drop points against villa and beat Lurado ( sorry for the spell ) by 10 goals?

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Whilst Ludogorets aren't a bad side I would expect us to comfortably deal with them at Anfield. Lucas is more than capable of handling that assignment.

Villa are playing well and I would personally prefer to have Stevie in there for that one.

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Agree with Wassa. Lucas is surely good enough to deal with Ludogorets' forwards. Aston Villa are the better out of the two, so I would field our best eleven available against Villa and make a few changes for the Ludogorets game.

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I agree Villa will be tougher opposition but can't see Stevie wanting to sit out our first CL game. Busy schedule I'd rest Gerrard tomorrow and play him CL and next weekend

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12 Sep 2014 19:52:23
gutted that Can is injured , desperate to see him get a full game

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11 Sep 2014 19:14:19
Not one single photo of Balo among the training photos on the LFC website. I guess he's coming back a day late from the Euro qualifier?

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{Ed002's Note - Maybe he took the photographs?}

I never thought of that Ed, good shout.
The guys more talented than I thought.

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Was Lovren taking pics too?

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11 Sep 2014 21:24:07
balotelli didn't go to italy's squad, but lovren did so that's probably it for him

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Balotelli has had a bug this week, so he's been kept away from the team, but will be fine for the weekend.

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So it was a bug he was trying to stamp on during the week?

Must have stamped on it real good if he's struggling to shake it off!

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11 Sep 2014 15:02:42
Hi Eds is it true both Can and Allen are injured and could be out for sometime?

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{Ed001's Note - yep.}

11 Sep 2014 15:59:33
Allen could be available for Villa not ruled out yet.

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The thing about Allen is that he is competing with Lallana. For Can, he may have started to get more game time as Gerrard tires, but Lucas will do that job for now. Strength in depth!

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Can't wait to see Lallana in a Liverpool shirt. Hopefully Saturday hey

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11 Sep 2014 15:01:50
Emre Can out for up to 6 weeks, Sturridge could miss 3 weeks and Allen has picked up a knock. Our midfield looks a too light in numbers now. Stevie will probably have to do double duty for 180 mins a week with the champions league fixtures to contend with. Just hope Lucas can step up to hep him out.

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11 Sep 2014 16:40:02
I wouldn't say it's light, we still have Henderson, Gerrard, Lallana, Suso, Lucas, Coutinho, Rossiter and Brannagan can play there, I think we will be ok.

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11 Sep 2014 17:45:54
I don't think a pure lack of numbers is a problem as much as the using the diamond dictates (imo) playing two out of Henderson, Allen & Can because the guys on the sides of the diamond need to be able to cover a lot of ground in order for the system to be effective. Without that energy, I think we struggle using the diamond.

Playing a narrow 3 midfielders in a 433 gives us more options. As long as you include one out of Lucas, Gerrard or Can to anchor, we could play any of our midfielders, including Coutinho and quite probably Lallana, in that system.

Nonetheless, I expect we'll play the diamond anyway. Most likely with Balotelli and Sterling up top, Coutinho just off them, and Lucas playing on the left side of the diamond, so I really hope I'm wrong about the foregoing.

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11 Sep 2014 20:06:38
Haha this is joke surely? Allen and Can two players who are probably not first choice at the moment get injured for a couple of weeks and the panic button gets hit.
Gerard, hendo, lallana and sterling still looks pretty good to me.

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11 Sep 2014 14:57:39
Can out for up to six weeks. Gutted

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12 Sep 2014 13:21:05
Was Waro the one dislike?

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11 Sep 2014 14:11:52
Just for banter guys!

if we finish in the top 4 again this season, can we attract players like Reus, Aguero, Khedira etc. to play for LFC? Would UCL be enough to capture these top talents or would they still prefer Mancs and Arsenal over us?

Hope for the beat though!

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11 Sep 2014 14:27:02
We can win a the league this year. I couldn't careless about players we haven't signed. Let's back players we have signed.

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It is not a question of whether we can attract these players or whether other clubs want them . The question should be how many talented young players like Sterling, Markovic etc would be pushed out of the first team if the said superstars were to arrive. Would they really represent value for money? Personally, I would not make a big splurge next summer unless a top notch keeper becomes available for a decent price. And maybe a top DM to replace Gerrard with Can playing further up the pitch.

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Players will prefer Arsenal or Chelsea because they are London based and have proven they can qualify for Champions league on a regular basis.

City have to spend big as we have seen and United have to spend even bigger due to no CL and poor league performances.

Liverpool have only just qualified for CL after years not being involved? If we impress in the league once more by challenging for the title and perform well in Europe then players will start to take us seriously again.

Players don't want to join a club that might fall back into the abyss in the near future. Now is the time to show that we are back and we mean business. If we do that then I'm sure players will will find Liverpool as an attractive option once again.

Red Rum

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Not just about the club but about what you're willing to pay them and at what cost that comes at. I'm sure the club would look to get someone of that calibre in but only if the deal was right and they were actually needed. We have some top young players in our squad. Hopefully they will be talked about in the same way as they players you mentioned. I certainly think they have that potential.

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11 Sep 2014 12:40:56
Looking through the fixture list and our squad is really going to get a run out soon, 6 games in 18 days is tough going!
I really hope our squad players can step it up when called upon this season, I think West Ham away is going to test us IMO

Still, we should have the ability to win most if not all our upcoming matches if players can stay fit and sharp.

Looking forward to seeing Lallana this weekend, I'd defo expect him to start, hopefully Buck will push him just behind Mario, and I'd like to see Markovic and Sterling next to him,

Moreno will have to watch Gabbys runs on the weekend, with Manquillo going to have to watch Weimanns runs, they can be very dangerous on the counter, as we saw last season.
They are in good form, tough game for sure!

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11 Sep 2014 14:38:53
The next 3 fixtures should fecth 9 points.

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11 Sep 2014 15:58:37
Chickens count don't your - rearrange to suit.

Let's win them then see where we are - the Liverpool way.

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One game at a time!

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I don't suppose you were at Anfield the last two years when we played Villa where you?

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12 Sep 2014 10:13:24
No Wazza mate, but I'm not showing any disrespect to Villa, as I said they are in good form and it will be a tough game!

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My response was to Harry and not you Dave.

Villa are tailor made to cause us problems. We still look acutely vulnerable to a quick counter attack and that is something they are more than adept at.

Should be a good game though (watch it be ****).

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12 Sep 2014 13:55:19
I agree Wazza, but hopefully we can learn from last season and keep it a bit tighter!

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14 Sep 2014 20:01:22
Now do you understand what I said? Villa got to be the bogey team these days.

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11 Sep 2014 12:36:16
Hi eds and reds, you all have to read the article in the daily mail by dave wood it starts with Q: why do Manchester united fans need to have the iPhone 6 Plus?
a must read enjoy all.

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Haha, they'll have to buy an iPad the way they are going.

Red Rum

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11 Sep 2014 10:26:17
Greetings all,

I would just like to point out that ssn has given loads of coverage to Man U but we have also been given a huge amount of coverage over the summer .

Personally I try not to watch it as I see it in the same way as I see the Sun . Its the same people making money from Sky as the Sun .

If you boycott the Sun, what about SKY?

'' If I had to buy a porno mag & the Sun I would wrap the Sun in the porno to hide my shame''

J4T96

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If you boycott the sun, you should boycott the time, sky, 21st century fox and a lot more

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11 Sep 2014 11:11:35
I do boycot the Sun, it's garbage anyway, Fox Is a rightwing mouthpiece, but sadly difficult to boycot Sky in north west wales with no cable or choice. One thing is for sure, the Sun should never be forgiven, ever. They hate Liverpool but the feeling is mutual.

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{Ed002's Note - And the Times, NY Post, Sunday Times, Masterchef, Press Association, Wall Street Journal.}

Sorry lads but I won't be boycotting Sky any time soon. There's nothing worse than streaming a match on Al Jazeera TV, where you can't make out the players faces and all you can see is little red blobs moving round your screen at a stuttering pace.

Red Rum

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11 Sep 2014 14:14:08
I know its not the place Ed002,
but why masterchef?
Have to admit I love the bald bloke facial expressions and his poetic description of flavours, that along with the funky house tracks they play to intensify the cooking segments makes it hard not to watch it.

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{Ed002's Note - It is produced by a company that is run by a Murdoch.}

11 Sep 2014 09:01:04
He dances when he scores a goal
Sturridge, Sturridge
He, s now a red and found his soul
Sturridge, Sturridge
From Anfield Road to Southern France
on every pitch see him dance
Danniel Sturridge dances when he scores

Then bounce.

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11 Sep 2014 10:37:34
He is 3 weeks and 6 games before a celebration.

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1-2 weeks away, Buck confirmed this morning.

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11 Sep 2014 07:39:14
Who do you guys think should be played along with Ballo now that sturridge is out for 3 weeks. Lambert or Borini?

I think Borini should be given a chance to prove himself!

Looking forward to the Villa match

Cheers!

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11 Sep 2014 08:01:20
Dissapointed to hear Sturridge's injury. He would miss 6 matches including 2 CL ties ( The season has just begun)
Lambert and Ballo upfront might be one option. Else BR would revert back to 4-3-3.

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I would continue with the diamond with Sterling playing up front with Balo. Lambert should stay as an impact sub. Lallana or Markovic can take Sterling's place at the tip of the diamond.

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11 Sep 2014 10:07:27
Ya sure it's 3 weeks? Heard Rodgers on the radio saying 1-2 this morning? Also said he believes it could have been prevented, or is this just him putting his foot in it?

In regards to formation would be tempted to out sterling up top and brig coutinho in for him. Or go three in midfield with gerrard coutinho and hendo, then sterling left lallana right mario through the middle. or go the LVG and play borini, lambert, mario, sterling, and Markovic up top,
Henderson, lallana, coutinho, gerrard in the midfield and lovren defending

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11 Sep 2014 10:41:44
Ronald-inho

It depends mate, Sturridge would have played anyway for England with one leg, The lad did made it clear long back.

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11 Sep 2014 11:09:23
Wasn't to do with him playing, said down thing about training between games. Along the lines with certain players like sturridge they give him a bigger rest or ease him in to training more to prevent injury and that England didn't. But as you said he wants to play for England and good on him for it!

Still don't like him playing 90 mins in a friendly but oh well

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If your going to play the diamond you need to keep sterling at the top of it, that's the reason it's worked out so well.
Then play borini or lambert up top in place of Sturidge.

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11 Sep 2014 13:30:49
Spot on Mikey

Either play Sterling at the tip or don't play that formation.
I would go with the same formation with lallana repalcing Allen and Lambert replacing Sturridge.

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11 Sep 2014 15:47:06
I wouldn't say BR has put his foot in it.
During the friendly I was disappointed to see the subs that were made as there was no real plan for looking at the upcoming schedule of certain players
for example, Roony as the captain was withdrawn, who is out of the league cup and has no CL football whilst other players with heavier schedules were kept on.
Shows the lack of thought in relation to sport & exercise science in the England set-up which has now been compounded by DS injury - and Rodgers has highlighted it.
Everyone knows Sturridge has injury issues so all who are involved need to look after him.
England didn't.

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11 Sep 2014 00:51:08
Please could ssn please have a manutd free day soon sick listening about their formation their financial implications of being useless, how van gal is the greatest manager in the world and they predict a top 3 spot this season.150m spent bring it on.

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{Ed007's Note - Is your remote control broken, Tommy?}

11 Sep 2014 01:41:44
I know ed 07 what your saying but it's all over the national news and wherever you go it's like the media can't handle them not at the top.Must say I can.

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{Ed007's Note - You're life would reach a whole new level of clarity and contentment if you stop watching Sly Spurts News. Too many people are wasting their minds by thinking they need to watch the BS they churn out 24/7. What other 'news' service gives you odds with almost every story? There's nothing on SSN you can't find out elsewhere. Avoid it for a week and come back and tell me how much better you feel :)

11 Sep 2014 07:31:06
It's been like that since the 60's, even when they got relegated in the mid 70's the newspapers where still all about them. I'm on a golf holiday with a number of staunch season ticket holding EFC fans, and they think LFC fans would rather see MUFC win than then - hopefully that will never be the case in my lifetime. I was brought up in an era when the relationship and sportsmanship between us was very good, and although that has deteriorated a great deal, my preference would still be Merseyside success at all costs against any other area.

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Agree with Ed's on this (referring to the odds).

I'd love to see how many of the links to other clubs that they had odds for actually happened - conflict of interests if you ask me.

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11 Sep 2014 08:23:34
ssn is useful for the following things - current scores, final scores and goalscorers. In every sport. That is it

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{Ed001's Note - and all of that is freely available elsewhere.}

11 Sep 2014 08:28:20
Definately agree with you John Everton over utd any day.

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{Ed001's Note - same here, though I would never hear the end of it from certain members of my family, I would rather them celebrating than anyone if it wasn't us.}

John B, I can categorically tell you that every scouse Red would rather have the Mancs win than Walton F.C.

Well we would rather see both clubs fold and cease to exist then build an Aldi or llidl on both grounds, if it's a what would you rather debate.

The sensitive souls on here won't like to hear that, but trust me 99.9% of Reds in Liverpool will say exactly the same.

WHY? The Mancs win something and you won't hear the last of it, but you can just not buy a paper or not watch ssn. But if the other crowd were to win something, f**k me you would NEVER hear the last of it and it would be constant 24/7, Jesus they brought out a DVD when the beat us in the Derby 3-0 when Andy Johnson scored.

They also have a very dark under belly, I could tell you stuff I've seen and heard that would make you fell sick but I know it wouldn't get past the Ed's so there's no point in me typing it. But IMO, there the greater of two evils.

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{Ed001's Note - not every scouse red would agree with you, so stop being such a bigoted tool accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being from elsewhere. You make the BNP seem enlightened at times. I would rather Everton because they employ a large portion of my family and I happen to be friendly with a number of people who have worked with them down the years. You don't speak for everyone, or even close to everyone. You are just one bloke, try not to act like you know what everyone else is thinking, because you don't.}

11 Sep 2014 11:31:19
Close rivals is needed to wish they didn't exist is totally wrong just ask Celtic how much they miss Rangers, I would keep them out of the top 4 given the choice though.

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I'm with the ed and op here. My dad is a blue, my brother is a blue so I would much rather them win it than United. Plus haven't United won enough? Be nice to see a club being run properly with a manager who has respect and candor win the league.

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You hold the power here so it's pointless getting into an argument with you Ed001 because you will show what you want to come out smelling of roses, but just out of interest which part of my post warranted being called a bigoted tool and you intimating I'm less preferable than the BNP?

So because you have some family members working for them your preference for them is nepotism?

I definitely move in very different circles to you in Liverpool Ed001 and I'm telling you what I've posted is true.

It's as I say pointless going into it because your in control of what goes onto this site, but what I will say is Ed001, I told you some weeks back to take your jesters hat off and called you a clown, to which you told me to grow up so I posted you an apology ( which you didn't show ) well what you have just called me is far more offensive, so will you be man enough to post me an apology?

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{Ed001's Note - I never saw any apology, or I would have thanked you for it. You obviously do move in different circles, because most of the people I know don't keep banging on about OOTs all the damn time. Yes you are a bigot and no I won't apologise for it. You are constantly slagging off anyone who isn't from Liverpool and trying to make out you speak for everyone from the city. You also accuse anyone who disagrees of being from somewhere else, as if everyone from the city is as close minded as you. Of course my preference is nepotism, I love my family more than football, if you don't then you have a problem.}

Trust Waro to go against the grain just to get a response.
I think 99% of Liverpool fans would rather Everton win than United.
We don't hate each other, it's banter and that's what football is all about.

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There is bitterness but thankfully its defo the minority on both sides.

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I did post an apology and for whatever reason it didn't get through to you, ok that happens as you know so that's fair enough.

OOT's I don't know what that abbreviation means so I can't respond to that.

My post wasn't about non scousers or having a pop at them because I would imagine most Liverpool supporters from around the country and around the world would prefer to see Everton win things than United which is why I said scouse Reds because opinions about Everton are viewed very differently in Liverpool than people who live outside of the City, it's you who have put two and two together and gotten five.

If you think I'm a bigot then ban me from the site, I've no problem with anyone who lives outside of Liverpool but yes I do feel people from the City should be prioritised by the club, just as If I supported for instance Barcelona, I would expect ticket priorities to go to locals and people such as myself would then take what may be left after that process, that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

I like everyone on this site love my family more than Liverpool and to insinuate otherwise shows what nasty little man you are who hides behind your keyboard.

Mikey, can't resist an opportunity to brown nose can you lad, you moved over the water to escape this city ( your words not mine ) so how would you know what the consensus on this subject is in Liverpool.

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{Ed001's Note - you were the one who suggested I was wrong to want my family to be happy by seeing Everton win Waro, if you can't take that it suggests you put football first, then that is your problem. Because it certainly reads that way.
As for the rest, we will just have to agree to disagree, which is fine. By the way being bigoted doesn't mean you aren't entitled to an opinion, so why would you be banned for it? The problem is the way it is expressed, not having the opinion itself.}

To be fair Ed001, I think he's just looking for a reaction. When I was 14, I used to do the same .

My advice would be to just stop giving the green light to his posts. All he seems to do is cause headaches and arguments. Plus it seems like a number of posters such as Waro have been on their final warning since the site opened! :D

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{Ed001's Note - he is entitled to his opinion mate.}

I understand what waro is on about and 100% in agreement. Rather none of them win it and we can win it and dominate like we used to. Out of towners are and have always been an integral part of our support and in some cases are more loyal and vociferous in their support, especially at away games. I know because I am one of them. Since 1972 spending god knows how much.home and away.

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Im not a scouser, not from Liverpool, not from england. but i'd rather see everton win it. from the outside, it seems to me like Liverpool and everton, despite being biggest rivals of each other, put away the rivalry for important things, 96 and all that. passionate about their team, bt understand when to leave behind the rivalry. of course it wouldn't apply to everyone, but there's always that some people everywhere around the world.

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So because I live over the river must mean I don't know any scousers Waro. Lol
Your talking garbage as usual.
Poll of the day ed001:
Would you rather see Everton or United win? Only scousers vote. Haha

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Everton over United everytime, it's the way it's always been as far as I can remember it - rarely, if ever, heard a Red say United.

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Everton Over United every time for me as well.

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I'm a working class scouser and lived a few streets away from the ground for 40 years, and nowadays I'd rather everton won anything than utd.
Before 1993 or so I'd have preferred utd, but since then I've had utd's many victories rubbed on my face by mancunian colleagues and fans, and I'm absolutely sick of it.
It doesn't help that fergie's specific aim was to knock us off our perch, and that he succeeded big time.
Honestly? I could stand the banter from bitter bluenoses, as nasty as that sometimes gets, but I never want utd to win anything ever again.

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