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11 Jun 2013 23:03:56
Any interest in Jores Okore or any other players from the Danish Superliga?
ColoradoRed {Ed030's Note - He has claimed he 'snubbed' Chelsea but I think it will be a player yet again talking Himself up. }
11 Jun 2013 23:21:06
Credit should be given to Ed2 because he or she said a long time ago that suarez would use the whole media accusation as a smokescreen to leave the club. I am a little surprised it played out this way to be honest, he seemed really attached to the club and I expected him to stay another year or two. I know what he did was wrong and agree that the "right" thing would be to get rid of him. This is the more mature approach and honestly should be done, even if the quality of the team suffers, for the sake of the club's name. However, there's a big part of me that wants to keep him because I know how important he is and believe he can get even better. It's a really tough decision and although Rodgers did do well with Sturridge and Coutinho, these dealings have not been enough to restore my faith in the scouting team. I like aspas and toure, both unspectacular but intelligent signings. I don't see us spending smartly with big money (predicting 25 mil on Mickey turining out to be a flop). wish I had more faith
11 Jun 2013 23:04:05
After a fun day in the office, arguing with Waro and 3 pints later in my local its time to call it a night with double family guy, a brew and a toffee crisp.
Toodle doo people
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
I am off to. Night all.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 23:01:19
I would just like let you know and I'm sure some of you are already aware but there is a guy on twitter called . I know people ridicule twitter but this guy definately does receive information. To be fair though he has been a million miles off the mark but sometimes he can be ridiculously accurate. Accurate in that you can't make up! I've followed him for over a year. I just thought I'd let as I see one of the editors tweeted him so I would like to ask the eds opinion of him? {Ed030's Note - You have not left his name mate. }
I know this guy. If you say his name three times then he appears and kills you. Unfortunately I too have said his name twice so perhaps someone else can tell you who he is.
derryred
12 Jun 2013 08:11:15
Candyman?
12 Jun 2013 12:01:46
@Brendan Rodgers lol. Pretty solid.
Quigz23
11 Jun 2013 22:55:05
Frick Suarez, I'm totally sick of him, yes he's a good player but he's not God, who the hell does he think he is? Someone mentioned on this page a good while ago about how many attacks break down directly because of Suarez trying to do too much and ignoring his team mates who were better placed than he and the figure was amazing. I have to agree that while enjoying the goals he scored I myself can remember becoming very frustrated in a lot of games at the amount of possession he gave away. The point is he's good but he's not as good as people think he is, give me Coutinho any day of the week (the new Beardsley), so if as is likely that he is sold then so what? We will replace him with more of a team player and for the money we'll have to reinvest it will be somebody who'll be just as skillfull.
11 Jun 2013 22:58:59
Can someone help me with something please. I remember after FSG took us over they also bought Roma, now I take it they used a different name but how do they get away with it, do they use 2 seperate companys? {Ed030's Note - I did not know they bought Roma mate are you sure about that. }
I think one of the many investors in FSG own Roma, not Werner, Henry, or FSG.
They didn't buy roma, one of NESV investors became the principal investor in roma (Tom DiBenedetto) and club president. One person or consortium would not be allowed controlling stake in two clubs under FIFA rules as it creates a conflict of interest.
Some shareholder in FSG owns Roma, or at least the majority of it, I think.
derryred
What about the owners of Watford, they own 2 other football clubs, how if the above replies regarding multi club ownership are accurate?
11 Jun 2013 22:47:05
Hey eds
We all know Suarez wants to move but if for some reason Madrid sign cavani and Munich get lewanowski and juve get higuain ( all ifs and buts I know) but do you see any outcome other than Suarez leaving
Or is it a case of when not if
Davylivercabs {Ed030's Note - I don't have a clue mate. }
11 Jun 2013 22:44:17
Well I'm off to bed now. I am on a promise.
You have to make the most of it when you are approaching 30 and have three kids.
I would like to say cheer up, but we all know there isn't much to shout about if you are a Liverpool fan.
Goodnight.
Disney!
Must support man poo-nited. LOL!
11 Jun 2013 22:56:33
You are a sad sad clown! Keep filling your head with those rubbish lies until you actually believe them and then get a one way ticket to the loon house!
Malak
11 Jun 2013 22:56:10
CummOn lad keep faith wel do well next season :-)
Basy
If your missus looks like a typical manc lass then I don't think you've got much to shout about either son.
That's probably the reason why your'e never off this site either, you big numnut.
Dave's cat
Fair play to you mate it is a banter page after all. And funny old thing but it looks like I've pulled some girl myself tonight, so looks like were both getting lucky.
RNred
{Ed030's Note - I cant post the end bit sorry mate. }
Mrs Thumb and her four fingers can talk Sydney?
K79
Hope you enjoyed your 30 seconds mate.
YNWA
Jamesy
Ed 30 sorry mate, it was only a joke and he has been asking for it today.
At least we can laugh.
RNred {Ed030's Note - I no it was,But I am not sure Waro would have seen it like that mate that is maybe taking it a bit too far. }
K79, brilliant.
derryred
Are you sure the kids are all yours Disney. Sure I seen your misses on Jeremy Kyle :)
When the wife's away the thumb and four fingers will play ;)
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 22:40:15
All reports seem to suggest that Suarez will be leaving this summer and if its true then it's how we replace him is what's important. Over the years United have lost and sold big players, yet they still consistently win or compete for the major trophies. In Liverpools hay days they did likewise. When we sold Keegan he was replaced by the legend that is Kenny who didn't do a bad job, and when his best days were behind him he brought in Beardsley who was immense beside aldridge and rush. Rush himself was replaced by aldridge and his record speaks for itself. People still lament Torres exit but it paved the way for Suarez impact. Good managers and scouting staff can replace anyone, maybe they won't have the same brillance but they can bring in players to do a job to keep you at the top. I firmly believe that BR has us on the right track and this time next year we'll be eagerly awaiting season 2014/15 and CL football again. MonaghanRed
11 Jun 2013 22:39:59
Torres to return to Liverpool for £15m, suarez to Bayern for £40m
Liverbird09
Let's get over the Strikers that do not want to play for us, and focus on the players that will give the club the respect it's due.
11 Jun 2013 22:37:47
The Armenian scored tonight against Denmark
Mickey is his name here Swampmonster LOl
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 22:35:41
A message to Waro:
What do you say we call a truce? Agree to disagree and happily ever after and all that?
The real AG
Kisses and cuddles xoxoxo
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
11 Jun 2013 23:00:23
AG, i've just posted further down the page about burying the hatchet. Maybe your post here crossed with mine further down the page and you didn't see it, no problem lad, it's all cool. Borini is crap though, just a joke lar just a joke, ha ha.
Waro
Saw it Waro, but this was posted before I saw your reply.
Another day of sparring tomorrow, you'll need your sleep Lol.
The real AG
Ed's Waro clearly is a troll, please don't let bullies like this ruin your excellent site, or give him a platform!
He victimises posters and brown noses other to gain strength. I will continue to stand up against his random troll attacks, but as editors I ask kindly to stop posting his (at least his attacks on others) posts.
Person has serious issues no doubt
K79 {Ed030's Note - It is his opinion and if he voices it too strongly and abuses other poster he will be banned but he is only having Banter with them mate. }
11 Jun 2013 22:30:27
Dennis aogo has signed from Hamburg lads. This will come out next week. I know it is a bold statement to make but I have friends in Germany who have told me this is happening. Thought I'd share x {Ed030's Note - This is the person who asked about Neymar and Shurlle I think he is taking the mick. }
Your friends work at Asda in Germany? If so, I know them man! They are not reliable folks though, tough luck man.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 23:55:55
WawiWiwa, great success!
11 Jun 2013 22:29:50
Who's having beef on here then lids?
DaveyBootle
I had a veggie supper : (
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 22:25:35
Schurrle of leverkusen may be signed if Suarez departs. Heard this of another website. {Ed030's Note - No chance whatsoever are you asking sill questions on purpose?. }
11 Jun 2013 22:23:34
It's all getting a bit heated on here at the moment lads, you're all entitled to your opinion you know. At least you all leave a name, the no-namers are just plain annoying. So a question for the chief antagonist of the site.
Waro, all negative things aside, who are the players, the realistic ones, that you would like the club to sign.
11 Jun 2013 23:04:47
Not ignoring you Mcb, but can I come back to that question tomorrow, i'm up early for work so i'm going to bed. Sorry my mate. I will answer that though.
Waro
No worries mate, check in tomorrow.
12 Jun 2013 14:37:28
Mcb, on a break so I will quickly reply to your post last night. Players to come in is a tough one until we know what's happening with suarez. As I said the other day, I would like to see the armenian lad come in and maybe the greek CB, although if it where possible which it probably isnt, hummels. And the main one I would love to see but won't happen is modric, he would be the jewel in the crown of our midfield if it could be done and would ease the impact of LS going. Forward I would go for would be tevez but again that's doubtful in the extreme.
Waro
11 Jun 2013 22:22:25
Any chance of neymar on loan eds? {Ed030's Note - More chance of you asking a sensible question and if you have not guessed by now the answer is no. }
This post actually made me laugh
11 Jun 2013 22:20:29
I really can't see Suarez moving to Real! Liverpool want in excess of 50m for him and it is highly unlikely they will pay that. In my opinion he will move to Bayern or an outside chance of PSG. Juventus couldn't afford his right foot plus I doubt he would interested going there. I still wouldn't be surprised to see City or Chelsea break the bank for him but he would most likely turn them down.
Suarez WILL NOT move to ANY team in France, he is more hated there than in England.
11 Jun 2013 22:20:48
Sign mertens BR! What we need an get rid of downing! Suarez out Vargas in!
11 Jun 2013 22:17:36
Waro, real AG, Nevada and all the rest of the posters. I suggest a nice cup of coffee, a pack of malted milks and a nice back massage.
I think it's evident we all have different views and some shared. This site would be terribly boring if we were all civilised and agreed with everything everyone says. The one thing I love about being a fan and also a poster is the banter and the split opinions.
We all want 1 thing at the end of it, that seeing Liverpool progress and do well. So yeah, let's all put out handbags away and get on as we would with Liverpool gossip!
Amen!
^^^^^^^^^^
Forgot to sign
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
11 Jun 2013 22:14:18
Eds please explain, man city have completed the deal for nevas and Manchester United likewise for some defender! When asked about aspas, the response is he can't sign until july 1st?? Thanks in advance!
Hardy1892 {Ed030's Note - you can agree a deal but he wont be signed as a city player until July 1st. }
Just like Toure mate. We have agreed put it will be official only on July 1, when the paper work can be done.
The real AG {Ed030's Note - Exactly mate. }
And Navas and Uniteds new Right back won't have actually completed there move, there at the same stage as we are with Toure
Ok thanks guys! Keep up the good work! ;-)
Hardy1892
11 Jun 2013 22:12:34
Just wanted to say good evening ed30,
hope you're well, I see you've drawn the graveyard shift again. Hope you're night is an easy one, it's been feisty at times today but I don't think anyone intended any malice. {Ed030's Note - I am fine Thanks mate how are you . }
I'm pretty good thanks. Taking a break for a few weeks before going back to working again. I'm hoping I can retire at 31 in the next year, sadly hope and expectation are different.
A Bit like LFC transfer targets then
11 Jun 2013 22:11:32
Hear a fee of 7 million euros agreed for Luis Alberto and the only hold up is Sevillia want a major sell on clause like 30%. This is due to Isco and selling him low without a clause. He is worth loads now and Luis is seen as just as bigger prospect.
Have you heard this Eds? Can this clause thing be overcome? {Ed030's Note - No when the 15th June passes we will know more. }
11 Jun 2013 22:05:29
BR will use the money gained from the sale of Suarez to buy 4 attacking players; Facundo Ferreyra 22, Iago Aspas soon 26, Luis Ablerto 20 and Henrikh Mkhitaryan 24
We all know 3 of the names but where did you get the Argentinian Facundo Ferreyra from? He's had a great season apparently but not seen him mentioned anywhere else?
If we manage sign all those players you mentioned we should be ok attacking wise for decade:)Ofc if all of them fulfil their potential at LFC. Sound reasonable, I hope you are right about names, sir
RITMICAK
11 Jun 2013 21:53:14
hey eds.
jus watched armenia against denmark tonight. mkhitarayan was on fire. so quick. my question is that how much of the purchase of mkhitarayan depend on the sale of suarez? or are they not related. {Ed030's Note - Probably there would be more chance should Suarez leave. }
12 Jun 2013 08:07:46
I watched the same game, struck by his vision and passing, one assist and a goal is not bad at all.
11 Jun 2013 21:43:55
If skrtel stays does anyone think that Brendan only dropped him to say up your game and try to persuade carra to stay on?
Nope. Carra has a contract at TV.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 21:36:46
Rooney interested in Liverpool and if Suarez goes then Rogers might use money to buy him {Ed030's Note - No chance mate. }
11 Jun 2013 12:43:07
Eds I don't know much about Ivan Rakitic to be honest, is a holding midfielder or attacking midfielder and how much we looking at if we are interested? {Ed030's Note - attacking mate and around £12m maybe as a rough estimate. }
Do we have genuine interest in him then Ed? cheers. {Ed030's Note - I doubt it mate players talk themselves us saying x is interested to attract more interest from other clubs. }
11 Jun 2013 07:04:41
Eds do you see Coutinho as the focal point of our attack next season? Also are any clubs interested in him?
Thanks {Ed052's Note - yes, as CAM. No}
If Coutinho will play CAM, who will play on the left wing then? or else will the formation change?
11 Jun 2013 23:48:15
If we get Mkhitaryan, then I can see Coutinho on the left, mickey in the middle and aspas on the right side. With Sturridge ahead of them. with Sturridge and Aspas exchanging places and the same with Coutinho and Mkhitaryan as the game goes on. Borini, Suso, Alberto, Sterling, Ibe as their backup players. Exciting attacking options Imo.
What do you think ed? Cheers
Malak {Ed030's Note - Yeah exactly what I think mate. }
Sounds nice. lfc cian.
11 Jun 2013 04:59:55
Eds, Do you know if Liverpool or any premier team use sports psychologists, or does that fall under the guise of the manager and his motivational techniques. They're popular in rugby, golf and a few other sports also but never heard of a football team using one. I'd be interested on your thoughts on this if you don't mind {Ed052's Note - we and othere will have psychologists yes. }
Milan use a rather attractive sports psychologist also. She's not listed as official staff so sadly I can't direct you to a picture.
11 Jun 2013 21:58:10
No wonder with all the abuse 'fans' throw at them.
I need a psychologist after going through the negative clueless bashing of players or tranfer targets on here sometimes.
Malak
Same bloke who worked for London 2012 team and Ronnie O'Sullivan.
Dr steve peters was appointed late past year. He comes in once a week (friday rings a bell) he may do more now.
Is that all he has to do?
Come in in a Friday and ring a bell?
10 Jun 2013 13:47:06
Ed, over the past year I have watched the Dutch League quite a lot, the football of Ajax, PSV etc is of a high quality. The Eredivisie is full of such great prospects and players like Bergkamp, Kuyt and Suarez have shown that they can be successful, obviously your Babels are there as well.
I'm asking your footballing opinion of these players, not chance of signing but your opinion:
Strootman; I personally think he is tactically good and has a great passing range but may lack the pace to play in the league.
De Vrij; he is a solid player in my opinion but maybe in his youth is capable of bizarre decisions.
Stefano Denswil; this guy is extremely talented, to use an Americanism, he has huge upside but isn't he a risk/reward player.
Bony; His goal scoring record is similar to that of Suarez, RVP and quality players, against Eredivisie defences he looks quick and looking at his intangibles he is a beast, would you agree he is the best suited to the premier league?
Eriksen; He is talented, that ability to unlock defences but I have concerns, he goes missing from games. His attitude of trying to get a payday etc is also got to be an issue.
Wijnaldem; This guy has it all in my opinion, fast, skilful and a potent finisher and has the build required to succeed outside of Holland.
Just wondering your opinion and if you would agree with my opinion?
Thanks, {Ed052's Note - None of those will sign. Strootman, Bony and Eriksen are fabulous players. Wijnaldem hasnt kicked on unfortunately. De Vrij is also a good player, and I feel next season will be important for him}
11 Jun 2013 21:26:17
Wow just seen Armenia beat Denmark 4-0 was there too watch Eriksen and Mikhythan and Mikhythan won the battle by miles, what a player fast, skillful, great vision and an eye for goal.
He got one assist and one goal which he scored by running through on the rightside drifting in with stepovers going past 1 defender then another, he the stopped shimmed and went left and shot a powerfull left footed shot in the left top corner of the goal.
Apparently were close to agreeing a fee of 22 milliom for this guy according to one of the commentators.
He as a player reminds me of a smaller figo if him and coutinho are our attacking midfielders, then teams are in for a hard time.
hopefully few more additions but so far some great eye for talent frm B R and the scouts.
thanks Eds keep up the great work.
JammyDodger
Glad to hear it, I forgot this game was being played tonight and instead was caught up in the England U21 game, which was a waste of my time.
I really hope Brendan Rogers gets our recruitment right this summer. It looks like we will have a very different squad to the one BR inherited only 12 months ago with only 9 or 10 players left from the previous managers squad.
Here is hoping we find more quality like Coutinho on the transfer market and more talent like Sterling in the Academy.
11 Jun 2013 21:22:04
One of the Liverpool eds I dunno if you but can you please ban Disney! I really can't understand what his obsession is with the club and tbh it's not even banter now i'm pretty much sure everyone on this site just finds his comments irrevelant and bias.
How Liverpool is a mid table club is beyond me.
London red {Ed030's Note - He is just expressing his opinion mate that is what the banter page is about. }
Wise up London Red. Have a look at the post below. Fans can't even be civil to each other. I am happy to see other fans give some stick. Just not abuse.
The Irish Rover
Yeah I completely agree with banter but it's like me coming on here just to slate you guys going you're wrong were going to buy canvani, suarez is going to stay just to piss you off lol even if I know I'm talking out my arse. But ill just swallow his crap. hard enough with some of the garbage Liverpool fans come out with on here, I agree with having an opinion on players and where the club is but saying that FSG have not spent enough is aload of bull it's not even an opinion it's a fact they have clearly spent a lot on this club. Rant over
London red
What really hurts you is my accuracy.
As they say, the truth hurts.
Disney!
London red, its a banter page, disney/sydney is man u fan, still obsessed with Liverpool. he talks as if he is in the know about all man u things, predicts transfers, never right. but when it comes to finances he likes to think he is an expert, spouts complete carp even man u fans on banter page knows its bs.
B O H
How can we measure this accuracy Sydney!?
You have never been right regarding LFC info. Your thought process is weird man.
The real AG
Sydney you are as accurate as a blind person with a dart that has been spun 1,000 times!
11 Jun 2013 23:26:34
I disagree london mate, owners haven't spent a lot in transfer market, with their own pockets,
Kenny spent 100M
Toress 50m
Raul 11M
Babel 7m
Ngong 4M
Some youngsters 4m
Total---76M
Owners contribution from their pockets=24M
Rodgers spent 65M
Adam-6m
Aqualini-3
Kuyt-2M
Others for free
Owners contribution from their own pockets-54M
In 3. 5-4 years they have spent 74M net spend which averages a season 18-21M,
Now is that enough for a club who needed massive rebuilding to return back where they belong, especially some of their rivals without any wage restriction spending 250-300m net spend in 4 years which makes their averages 5 times bigger then Liverpool, spending all that money in already a world class team compare to Liverpool.
Liverpool deserve where they are, its going to be impossible for Liverpool to compete with big boys unless arsenal implode, because they are only the team who look weak compare to chelsea who again will spend 100M+ with Mourinho, city again will spend huge and have financial power to keep them up. And blow anyone, united have financial powers and experience throught of their hearichy, arsenal have financial power and experience, but financial power is just for show, if they use like their chairman say then Liverpool have no chance for few years unless Liverpool owners start competing financially with Liverpool rivals. {Ed030's Note - Since when has £54 million not been a lot of money and don't forget the club is making a loss each year. }
12 Jun 2013 01:28:06
Ed30 fair enough 54m is a lot of money, but is that enough to compete with chelseas and citys and uniteds considering some of them are head and shoulders above Liverpool interms of quality and still spend that amount of money in 1-2 players, where Liverpool spend that amount in 6-7 players, now can you see the difference 6-7 players and 1-2 world class players and spend more then triple of Liverpool in already world class team, mate no dig at owners but is it enough in this day and age to compete with money bags, because losses are not going to stop until lfc achieve champions league, will lfc achieve champions league next season considering our rivals are already 6 steps futher then us interms of their squad quality and again will spend massively almost trice of what will spend without selling their best players but injecting more world class players to their already class team, and remember Liverpool couldn't even achieve europa that's how poor Liverpool have been, again ed30 the ball is in your court is that enough for Liverpool? But be honest mate
Mate your completely ignoring the cost of running a club without champions league. Compare that to other clubs we have a higher net spend
London red
11 Jun 2013 21:21:28
Waro's day so far:
Abused people:
Me, Scottybhoy, Nevada, Mightyreds, Basy, Sam Adzii and whoever that disagrees with him.
Favourite words used:
nugget, chicken burger, tomato ketchup, lad, soft lad, nail polish, Suarez, FSG out, Ed002 is satan.
and at night, curl up with Harry Scouser after a real hard day at work in the hoe house.
The real AG {Ed030's Note - Can we put this Disagreement to bed lads or keep it to banter not abusing eachother. }
All for it Ed030. You will find that Waro started it as usual.
As I said earlier, I have no wish to abuse folks here, after all, we are all on the same side supporting Liverpool FC.
The real AG {Ed030's Note - I understand mate just keep it to banter. }
Grow up mate, his views are wrong to me, you and others, maybe. But we don't need to go around posting hate messages.
I think Waro unntentionally abused me and apologised for it so I wouldn't say any harm caused there.
It's actually F$G in Waro speak.
Piledriver, a quick search on Waro will reveal the hate messages he has been posting up to anyone disagreeing with him.
I am all for a truce but will Waro be interested?
The real AG
As I said AG, Waro is just a man with a heated opinion like many on here. If he offends he will apologise as demonstrated earlier. I think that shows some character on his behalf.
Fair doos AG, I just spat my mocachino out reading that. Brb off for a Big Mac and a head massage!
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
AG, as I have said feel free to post up any hate or whatever else you want to accuse me of, I have no problem with it! You take umbridge to most things I post, which I don't have a problem with either and I have to admit I like the smack talk, I'm like a dog with a bone and I don't let go.
If you want to bury the hatchet then I've no problem with that, let's say we will agree to disagree and then announce our engagement, ha ha!
Early start for me in the morning so I'm just going to service my last old gent and go to bed ha ha, no seriously, consider the hatchet buried AG. FACT.
Waro
And WARO, is of course an anagram of " A row" and you might all just have fallen for it.
I think it's funny.
RNred
This hatchet, buried.
I have some advice. Whether you wish to take it into consideration or not, it's upto you.
The nature and style of your post often comes out as rather very aggressive and while folks read it, they think of it being written as by a real ol' bugger. Maybe something to look into in the future?
We ofcourse will continue to disagree on many a thing I am sure (FSG for example).
Oh well, another day, another ramble right ol' chap?
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 22:49:38
Lol warro
Is a
Legend :-)
Basy
11 Jun 2013 21:21:28
Waro's day so far:
Abused people:
Me, Scottybhoy, Nevada, Mightyreds, Basy, Sam Adzii and whoever that disagrees with him.
Favourite words used:
nugget, chicken burger, tomato ketchup, lad, soft lad, nail polish, Suarez, FSG out, Ed002 is satan.
and at night, curl up with Harry Scouser after a real hard day at work in the hoe house.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 19:37:28
Question for ed002, just interested to know a bit of background as to how sponsorship / kit deals tend to work in general? Would a team such as Liverpool with I would guess a far greater worldwide fan base but alas no regular champions league football at present be able to negotiate better deals than teams such as Chelsea, Manchester city and arsenal who have smaller worldwide fan bases but can currently guarantee regular champions league football? de neen {Ed002's Note - They will all go for the best deal they can. Liverpool have a manufacturers deal with Warrior that is a bit of a loss leader. The club get the deal with teh manufacturer and they get what the fans spend.}
Chelsea's fan base is quite large, at least here in America (much larger than Liverpool's anyway in my experience). Don't know about elsewhere though.
RDL
How do you mean 'loss leader' ed? Warrior are leading the industry in losses? {Ed002's Note - The term is well defined.}
11 Jun 2013 21:01:22
Is anyone watching the Denmark Vs Armenia game? I remember a few posters saying they were gunner watch it because Mkhitaryan was playing. Well I'm watching it now and I've got to say i'm impressed! just scored a really good goal aswell and also got an assist. He flipped it over the full backs head and beat him for pace, before cutting inside a couple of times and smashing a low left foot drive into the bottom corner. If we manage to buy him, I have no doubt he would be a quality piece of business.
St Helens Red {Ed030's Note - I forgot mate I was going to scout them both. }
That's his price just gone up a couple of mill then mate!
The Juicer
I watched the full game and Mkhitaryn won the battle of the No 10s hands down. Top class.
11 Jun 2013 18:15:45
Hey eds, the Alderwield rumour is resurfacing, anything new on that front?
Drigan {Ed030's Note - I don't think so mate. }
11 Jun 2013 18:03:13
hello eds, any transfer news regarding Muniain this summer? {Ed030's Note - Bilbao where looking to sell but now appear to have changed there mind.
Good thing to as their price was outrageous considering his off field issues.
11 Jun 2013 20:34:06
Suarez's teeth have got to be worth 50 million alone?
No need for cheap shots at him mate just immature. Just let him go to Madrid without moaning if he went without any of this media stuff couldn't exactly blame him so no need to be childish
London red
11 Jun 2013 21:08:56
Suarez is a real blunt head. Allowing himself to be mocked by some blokes in Manchester, he should've been smart enough.
11 Jun 2013 20:33:08
Spurs like the person they are will copy Liverpool transfer targets and try to sign one of our other main target Henrikh Mkhitaryan and beat us to signing him like they with our other targets lfc-liquid
11 Jun 2013 20:31:06
£14.9m for Navas? What a steal, I understand that we could not afford his wage demands (probably) and that Seville needed the money so they were open to a low offer but my god, I thought it would be well over £20m even with those restraints.
Anfield Andy
It's actually 17.6 million pounds. I am not sure if that would go up with performances related conditions.
The real AG
It could rise to 30m euros (£24m).
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 20:15:04
Read these sites, for many years, like most. a few times a day.
General theme over last month or so has sunk beneath the dignity of what I'd expect LFC fans to maintain. Yes certain posters have provocative opinions but. to responses seem very emotive. which skews opinion
"Anger diminishes our power to distinguish right from wrong, and this ability is one of the highest human attributes. If it is lost, we are lost. Sometimes it is necessary to respond strongly, but this can be done without anger. Anger is not necessary. It has no value" - Dalai Lama
Don't let's forget the responsibility inherent with being a Liverpool fan
Good view and thanks for your insight (pun intended, albeit a poor one)
The real AG
Spot on mate, verry good post
I like your quote. Smart man Dali Lama
And he's got a left foot like a magic wand
My work here is done. *stands mystically to the east "roger Moore" eye brow action*
12 Jun 2013 10:54:43
cape billowing in a non-existent wind
11 Jun 2013 20:01:24
Hi eds can u answer please?
Can BR keep all money from player sales? 50m Suarez 15m Carroll 15m Skertil 10m Reina and 20m the rest.
Would the club sanction over 100m in sales this summer? {Ed030's Note - I don't know. }
No one will know for sure but the chances are that he will recieve a certain percentage and the other partwill go into other running costs of the club or to the owners as a small return for the investment in the player in the first place.
Will
Or it could increase our funds in January and next summer rather than being spent in one go
11 Jun 2013 19:57:17
Hey eds for rumours or banter page what dya think of the council buying finch farm of the toffees for 15m then letting them have it back. Sounds dubious to me our toffee councillor sorting out an interest free loan more like. discuss cheers eds. FLOUG {Ed030's Note - the bad thing about those deals is the council can kick them out anytime they like. }
Did Everton own Finch Farm? Was it not owned privately and Everton are just paying less rent?
The Irish Rover {Ed030's Note - I am not sure mate I thought they owned it though. }
Have the previous owners of the site not gone into liquidation?
Cheers
Greggers
It was privately owned and leased to EFC but Liverpool council bought it and Everton have a 40 year lease agreement. Seems strange that Liverpool council bought it though as Finch farm comes under Knowsley council not Liverpool
Finch Farm was owned by a private company who have sold it to the City Council. Everton F. C will pay less rent, but after 25 years the council will have received all of their initial investment and Everton will continue paying rent for at least a further 15 years after signing a 40 year leasehold from the council.
11 Jun 2013 19:56:28
Hey ed what price would Luke Shaw demand and have we shown any intrest.
Clee Red {Ed030's Note - around £12 million imo. }
Hi Clee Red. May be a bit biased because I am a Saints fan, but we do know a little about LBs-chap called Bale comes to mind (following on from Bridge. )
Our coaches reckon Shaw will be better than Bale, and we are now seeing figures of £85m being spoken about for Bale. Apart from it being very unlikely Shaw will go anywhere this summer, Saints would certainly not let him go for £12m. I'm not disagreeing with Ed. , just stating what he is worth to Saints rather than what another side may think he is worth. (We couldn't even replace him with Baines for that!)
Saint Martin
Well to be honest if suarez and the rest of my maths are right we could have easily 80million to spend 15million on him he is worth every penny
11 Jun 2013 19:51:33
Eds, as k toure has been brought in to add experience due to carras retirement, do you think BR will target another experienced player since we were lacking that at times last season, or will his obsession with youth form the majority of transfer activity? Cheers! {Ed030's Note - If skrtel leaves then yes. }
11 Jun 2013 19:33:53
Sorry about complaining
But is aspas going to sign?
We agreed a fee on The 28th of may
14 Days ago! Surely we should have
signed him about a week ago? {Ed030's Note - You can not complete a transfer until after the 1st of July. }
11 Jun 2013 19:31:56
MKHITARYAN ASSIST FOR ARMENIA V DENMARK (Feat. Eriksen)
11 Jun 2013 19:30:18
Aspas is NOT a replacement for Suarez. If luis does leave, that is when his replacement will be sought. Lfc will re-insvest from the sale, don't worry!
DB9
11 Jun 2013 19:23:57
Rodgers is back in for sigaurdson for a cut price deal of 7m. (I hope not)
11 Jun 2013 19:24:58
Watched some videos of aspas' every touch against madrid and sevilla and I was impressed. Hopefully he can have thesame impact on our team.
Those youtube videos are excellent for scouting!
11 Jun 2013 19:23:34
has aspas signed? {Ed030's Note - Will not be official until 1st july mate. }
11 Jun 2013 19:19:03
STAT ATTACK
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I've looked at forwards, I've looked at midfielders (and surprised myself by finding out that Gerrard was still our most productive player before the Jan transfer window), and I've looked at Keepers. Today I thought I'd look and see who our best defenders are.
Player--Games-Tackles (PG)-Interception (PG)-Blocks
Johnson-36-------90 (2. 5)-----56 (1. 6)-------9
Enrique--29-------72 (2. 5)-----35 (1. 2)-------3
Agger----35-------35 (1. 0)-----63 (1. 8)------16
Skrtle----25------34 (1. 4)------39 (1. 6)------25
Player---Passes---completed---%-------ELDG
Agger---1744-----1547--------88. 7------0
Skrtle---1155-----1045--------90. 5------3
Johnson-1740-----1431--------82. 2------0
Enrique--1304-----1000--------76. 7------1
*ELDG - Errors leading directly to goals.
*I didn't include Carra since its irrelevant due to his retiring.
Based on the figures it would appear our wingbacks are actually doing pretty well. 2. 5 successful tackles each per game is pretty good for two players who are often accused of being crap at the back. Skrtle's numbers are also respectable and certainly comparable to Agger, what suprised me the most was how high his completed passes were by comparison to Agger, since he is the 'ball playing defender' they also both had the same average amount of key passes per game (0. 3). The only area where Skrtle falls down is in his mistakes, leading to goals on 3 occasions.
Just for fun as well here's Lucas' figures just in case anybody still doubts his worth to the team.
Player--Games-Tackles (PG)-Interception (PG)--Block
Lucas-----26-------123 (4. 7)------64 (2. 5)------9
Gundogan-28-------64 (2. 3)-------63 (2. 3)------0
Martinez--27-------62 (2. 3)-------52 (1. 9)-------3
Busquets--31------93 (3. 0)--------52 (1. 7)------8
Player---Games--Passes--Completed--%--Key Passes
Lucas------26-----1528----1339-----87. 6---0. 6
Gundogan--28-----1641----1415-----86. 2---0. 7
Martinez---27-----1150----1008-----87. 7---0. 4
Busquets--31------2335----2153-----92. 2---0. 3
So Lucas makes more successful tackles per game than all of europes best, he makes more successful interceptions than europes best, more blocked shots, with a comparable pass percentage and more key passes than all but one. And some people want to trade him in? Madness. He led the premier league in defensive statistics last season and only 2 players from espanyol led him in europe.
Hope it's been interesting and informative, comments are always appreciated.
11 Jun 2013 20:04:30
Good post dude but you should put your name at the bottom so we can look out for you again.
ACHILLES.
Didn't sign my name.
Nevada
Brilliant. Thanks, Nevada. Most surprising for me is Skrtel's passing and blocked shots. Is an average of one blocked per game high for a CB?
As soon as I saw the stats, I knew it was you Nevada :)
BTW, did you used to post under a different name before?
The real AG
I did used to post under the name Rewflo once upon a time. Thanks for the comments everyone. I'll keep posting as long as people enjoy reading.
And for the unnamed poster that amount of average blocked shots per game is very healthy indeed, it placed him at 6th in the league for blocked shots on goal attempts.
Sorry correction there, it placed Mr Skrtle at 13th in the league for blocked shots.
I wondered where Rewflow went. Interesting stats that mate. I don't know if you saw the stats article on the LFC website the other day, but the stand out one for me was the amount of goals scored with the right foot compared to the left. BR does play right footed players on the left and left on the right quite a bit, and I expect this to be looked at to get a bit more balance up front. Is Aspas a left footer who plays on the right side?
Whilst this site works OK it's quite hard using the net when I'm working at sea to get much info.
RNred
Thanks yet again, Nevada! Was me by the way asking-
RDL
It's a bit late now RNred but I will take a look tomorrow and see if I can determine it for you mate.
You're welcome RDL, always happy to help where I can and statistical analysis seems to be a flair of mine recently.
Any idea how Joe Allen's stats compare to those of Lucas?
Cheers,
Raoul
Lucas was also not at full strength. and does not have as high quality team that surrounds Gundogan, Martinez or Busquets. very impressive considering Lucas had a 'down' season
11 Jun 2013 19:18:57
Negredo or soldado will do us when suarez goes! Personally think we should keep Carroll too! Borini poacher, sturridge speed flair, Carroll ariel ability strength, soldado or negredo proven finishers. Hope we get sum talent in this window we got to get top 4 next season!
11 Jun 2013 19:18:45
Suarez is a world class player, but also a world class troublemaker (i mean it's not all footballers that can get into a war of words with the British PM). I would personally like to see him stay but we can agree that there will also be a lot lot of positives from him leaving. We'll have a heafty warchest and we won't be arguing all the time about him.
I personally think our pm should concentrate on the conduct of his cabinet ministers rather than the conduct of a footballer.
Didn't hear him come out and criticise lance Armstrong for been a drugs cheat or giggs, cole or terry for there antics off field.
I think Luis is a fool for his behaviour but can also see his point about it been blown out of proportion and i'd probably feel a little victimised if even the pm was having a dig.
Doesn't excuse Suarez's part in any of it or his behaviour now but not sure I would want to hang around for more of the same.
Fester
I think Suarez is a bit of a baby to be honest. In my field of work criticism is an accepted part of the job and you get it a lot, from people you really don't want to take it from. But you accept it comes with the job.
11 Jun 2013 19:12:10
I think some folk need to put their big boy pants on. Much as I love Suarez and what he brings on the pitch he is obviously working for a move.
Suarez is obviously trying to turn himself into a hot potato so that his price can be negotiated down from around 40mil to his next club can afford.
History is repeating itself. Suarez got himself a ban for biting an opponent at Ajax. The club did not punish him, they merely did not defend the indefendable. Then guess what Ajax were accused of not supporting him! ( sound familliar )
Anyway this obviously made life easier for the club to sell the hot potato he had become and probably meant we saved a few quid signing him.
I do not need to point out the similarities to the current situation do I?
I think he is truly among the best in the world at present but if he had said ' I wish to leave to play champions league ' or ' I would like to win something major '. I like many would understand and wish him well.
Anyhow to all the numpties who somehow believe that the club or BR are to blame for him leaving or that we should moan about Terry or Defoe receiving lesser punishments should get real.
Suarez is a great but not a Liverpool legend as he simply does not love this club or its fans. He is a professional, who is ambitious and has brought us many special moments but has also used us as a stepping stone to a bigger club.
This is just my view and I expect people will disagree but I believe the club has lost respect due to his incidents and if we continue to excuse any behavior just because he score then we are not the club that sets the standard, we are just another ordinary club.
Kobi
Great insight Kobi.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 19:11:18
Suarez is a world class player, but also a world class troublemaker (i mean it's not all footballers that can get into a war of words with the British PM). I would personally like to see him stay but we can agree that there will also be a lot lot of positives from him leaving. We'll have a heafty warchest and we won't be arguing all the time about him.
11 Jun 2013 19:10:11
He eds love the site
Has any teams even made a solid offer for Luis? {Ed030's Note - Not yet. }
If Suarez hands in a transfer request he will lose his 5% of the transfer fee. So his £1. 75m ;)
Disney!
Yes but I assume Real Madrid or whoever will give it him back in add ons when he signs. I know nothing about signing for a professional football club but I reckon this would happen
Yes but I assume Real Madrid or whoever will give it him back in add ons when he signs. I know nothing about signing for a professional football club but I reckon this would happen
Truth is no name, a fraction of the Suarez fee will probably be add-ons.
It maybe something like 30m euros upfront with 10m euros in add-ons.
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 19:10:01
Why does nt Suarez just hand in a transfer request if he is so determined on leaving. kls {Ed030's Note - Because that would mean the club would get a lower fee. }
It would also mean he would lose out on loyalty bonuses which the club will have to give him.
The real AG
He would also lose his loyalty bonus, would he not? I suspect that's more the reason than any concern he has for the club getting a reduced fee.
Hi ed. Why would the club get a lower fee?
Thanks. {Ed030's Note - As they would be under more pressure to sell and teams it gives his current club less power in negotiations. }
11 Jun 2013 19:04:14
Hi Eds,
Ivan Rakitic has came out and said that Liverpool are intersted in him.
Is there something in his claims or is he just trying to make his team sign more players? {Ed030's Note - He said a move to Liverpool Would be a good move for him }
11 Jun 2013 18:52:32
Wow Suarez has really divided opinion on here of late. I love the guy for his footballing ability but I am questioning his premeditated actions recently. If he wants to go then let him and hope we get a fair price for him. I employ 180 people and have lost some very good ones over the years that have wanted to "further their career". It would be futile to stand in their way and I send them off with my best wishes. Has my business suffered because of this? NO! Is it a pain in the ass to find replacements? YES.
I remember FSG stating their desire to buy young up and coming talent to fit their business model which can only mean one thing, to make a profit. Yes the timing stinks and I wish we had one more year of him but I think it is inevitable that he would move on at some stage so let's try and double our money within two years before he implodes and drops in value.
I hope Brendan and his scouting team can continue to unearth gems (Coutinho). I don't want us to become a feeder club but we may have to come to terms with this until we do achieve CL and can afford the "star players" again. Am I resigning myself to mediocrity or second best? NO, just trying to be realistic for the next few years. Is BR going to get it wrong occasionally? probably but I feel he is doing a great job considering and I do truly believe we will see the benefits in the not too distant future.
Just waiting for the tidal wave of abuse now.
No abuse from me matey. That was a balanced well thought out and realistic post and I wish there were more like it!
All the doom mongers and naysayers bore me rigid.
In Buck we trust!
No abuse from me matey. That was a balanced well thought out and realistic post and I wish there were more like it!
All the doom mongers and naysayers bore me rigid.
In Buck we trust!
11 Jun 2013 18:49:48
Hi Eds,
Just curious with the impending departure of Saurez who do you see as the best and most likely replacements?
Thanks for your time
Aggers Left Boot {Ed030's Note - Mkhitaryan and Lamela would be my choices but there is near enough no chance of Lamlea. }
I am sure Mkhitaryan will come regardless of Suarez leaving, as I think Downing, Carroll, Skrtel and Shelvey will bring in £40m+ alone.
I would think that should Suarez, I love the thought of Lamela, however I think we shall move for Muriel, as:
1) We have young wingers in Sterling and Ibe to come through but not many Strikers.
2)He is below 25
3) Tehcincally impeccable
4) Clincal
5) Fast as bolt - even with the ball
6) Has real potential to be both as exciting and as effective as Suarez. nearly from the off
7) Has been heavily scouted by Liverpool
8) Is probably attainable for under £20m
9) Has no issues with work permit or mixed ownership.
10) Could be worth £50m in 2 years time.
The Ten Condiments! {Ed030's Note - WP issues mate. }
Wouldn't Lamela suffer the same WP issues ed? {Ed030's Note - I will look it up for you. }
Jackson Martinez or W. Bony not tickle your fancy Ed030? {Ed030's Note - Martinez would be particularly expensive and there is inerest elsewhere in Bony. }
If I'm correct ed, Lamela would also be ineligible in the uk due to his economic rights being shared between club and third party ownership, which I believe although is very common in italy and south america is against FA rules here? {Ed030's Note - I think that's right mate. }
11 Jun 2013 18:44:30
Haha, you sad little creature. Did you get lonely in your mums basement and decide to pop on here? You're a laughing stock, even your own fans must realise that. I'm assuming you're the type to get pushed in a pub, quietly sit down, then tell your mates you 'nearly knocked him out. ' Sort yourself out you helmet.
JFT 96
JP
11 Jun 2013 20:14:55
Is this for Disney Jp?
If so I am giving you a standing ovation:))
Malak
Who is this aimed at JP?
Disneyland clown?
The real AG
In truth I never used to be the type of guy that gets pushed in a pub, especially if I have a pint glass in hand ;)
Nowadays I am more of a lover than a fighter, that's what four years inside will do to you and having kids.
Disney!
Actually it was aimed at that KLOOT fella who has the banter equivalent of watching The Notebook. Disney! is somewhat annoying, but at least him and HB can have a bit of a laugh, albeit sometimes tasteless. KLOOT just seems to be a bit of a wet lettuce and throws around comments without a hint of humour involved. Very sad!
JFT 96
JP
11 Jun 2013 18:37:40
you got to love waro's positivity, bet he's the life and soul of the party.
The man sure ain't shy.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 18:36:20
Waro
Lsn mate suarez admitted to abusin evra
I don't like evra either but suarez was in the wrong and he should have shaken his hand for lfc sake!
He made lfc look bad yes through media but media will only screw you if you give them a excuse and suarez gave them plenty!
Racism
Refusing to shake hands
Diving! And admitting it
Bitiing
And yes lad it hurts when he said he wants to leave I was one of them who supported him but mate where lfc and its fans showed him loyalty
Should he not do the same?
Basy
11 Jun 2013 18:36:20
aspas has completed his move not sure for how much? any ideas on price. fin {Ed030's Note - around £7.5m
11 Jun 2013 18:36:09
Hai ed. Pls Post this.
This is a real fact, This will stop the agony against the Owners for sure.
Money Spend Till EPL started 1992-2013
Chelsea 842 mill pounds - 3 EPL
Manchester City 704 mill Pounds - 1 EPL
Liverpool 602 Mill Pounds - 0 EPL
Man UTD - 532 Mill Pounds - 13 EPL
This is a real fact
Sure you won't change your views again tonight Harry?
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 20:51:15
Nope mate that's not the real fact, or your to young to know,
Try to find gross and net spend then you will see the big difference, and we deserve where we are,
teams you have listed with Liverpool, have always spent or add class players without needing to sell their best players like Liverpool, who have never spent big from their own pockets without selling their big assets to fund for other big assets,
Liverpool net spend is very, very small compare to clubs which you have listed in that list, eg when Liverpool spends 30-40M it means they are replacing a world class player who is funding for another one compare to other teams who are not replacing their world class players but are bringing more world class players with keeping their world class players insted of selling them, that makes a huge difference,
Just try to find gross and net spend with teams you have listed then everything will be clear for you, and you will note that we deserve where we are.
If Liverpool spends 500m then 400-450m has come from sales which doesn't make any difference because you again need to replace them where if city or chelsea spends 500M then only 50-60M have come from sales which makes huge difference interms of quality, I just hope you understand what I'm trying to say!
Liverpool's net spend since the EPL began is higher than United's.
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 22:04:10
Sydney can you show proof, that our net spend is bigger then united?
I think the 80m sale of ronny will have helped reduce uniteds net spend quite a bit, not too mention the sales of Veron, Stam, Beckham as well.
Trust Sydney, it is considerably higher.
The Irish Rover
Cough cough Torres, Alonso, Mascherano.
I have produced proof in the past.
Disney!
Our net spend would be decreased by those sales Sidney. The examples you should be using should surely be Carroll, Henderson, Downing, Cisse etc.?
11 Jun 2013 18:34:51
I see disney the plonker is on our site all day spouting tht aspas is our replacement for saurez well so wot if he is, u can't just replace a saurez with one player as he is one of a kind so you may have to replace his attributes in different ways, also disney when you lot sold ronaldo was he not replaced with valencia now don't get me wrong but not exactly a like for like replacement so just stick to worrying who gollom signs for you and be prepared to watch exciting hoofball next season you muppet.
I would agree with that. I am not saying the squad will not be strengthened in other areas with the proceeds of Suarez' sale or that Suarez needs to be replaced with an equally talented signing, I am merely stating the obvious that Aspas is Suarez' replacement.
I think the reason Liverpool fans are getting so emotional is because at the end of the tunnel, you can only see more tunnel. You are about to sell the only decent player you had and after finishing SEVENTH with Suarez, many are wondering where you will finish without Suarez.
I think you will finish 10th and BR will be given his P45.
Disney!
Well he does talk a lot of fantasy.
He was convinced real Madrid would be persuasive enough take Suarez for 20 million and Pedro Leon or something like that.
Oh, and they keep thinking Lewandowski, Fabregas and Thiago would be going to Manchester United LOL
The real AG
Really Disney? When Schmeical left united did they replace him with a world class keeper? When Fabregas left arsenal did they replace him with a world class midfielder? When zidane retired did Madrid replace with a world class Midfielder?
No to all.
David Moyes' Brave New World.
Across the English Channel.
Lol. Buy him a sat nav will you?
The Juicer
I actually tend to agree with many things you say Disney, but 10th? That seems like pretty awful estimate evem for a Man United fan and I can't believe you'd really think that. 4th-7th I think seems reasonable, 10th seems rather unrealistic and would be a dismal failure by any standard.
Manchester United, Premier League Champions 2013.
Manchester United U21's, U21's Premier League Champions 2013.
I am not concerned about our signings. The truth of the matter is we will have a stronger squad next season and a better first XI. Liverpool will have a poorer squad and first XI next season. The gap is widening lads. I am not convinced Cesc will arrive, but it shows our ambition compare to yours. Cesc/Thiago and you want Alfredo or whatever he's called. We want Lewandowski, you buy Aspas.
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 18:29:46
OK. Want to get this whole Suarez situation off my chest. Sorry I know its been done to death but would like to give my two cents :-).
Luis Suarez is a remarkable player we all know and we have been lucky to see him play at our club while he has. I would actually hope that he leaves sooner rather then later. OK we loose our best, but we can move forward. I think people are too hung up on loosing a great player and not realising that we are loosing a noose from our neck. Granted Suarez scored a lot of goals but he has dragged our club through the dirt. He has been a person on the pitch and a whore off the pitch talking about loving to play here there and anywhere (bit like Robbie Keane played for all his boy hood clubs you know :-)). Why would you want this rap sheet associated with our club:
February 2007
- Makes international debut for Uruguay against Colombia but is sent off late in the game after receiving a second caution for dissent.
November 2007
- Having joined Ajax from Uruguayan club Nacional, he is suspended after a half-time changing room row with team-mate Albert Luque.
July 2010
- Sent off in Uruguay's World Cup quarter-final with Ghana for preventing Ghana from scoring a last-minute goal by handling the ball on the line. Enthusiastically celebrates Asamoah Gyan's subsequent penalty miss from the sidelines before Uruguay go through to the semi-finals on penalties.
November 2010
- Given a seven-game suspension by the Dutch Football Association and fined by Ajax for biting PSV Eindhoven's Otman Bakkal on the shoulder during a league match.
October 2011
- Now at Liverpool, he causes controversy with a dive that results in a red card for Everton's Jack Rodwell in the Merseyside derby.
- Accused of racially abusing Manchester United left-back Patrice Evra during a Premier League match, for which he later receives an eight-match ban and a £40,000 ($64,000, 48,000 euros) fine.
December 2011
- Handed a further one-match ban after making an offensive hand gesture towards Fulham supporters.
February 2012
- Sparks controversy again after refusing to shake Evra's hand as United and Liverpool line-up prior to kick-off in a game at Old Trafford.
October 2012
- Celebrates a goal against Everton with a comedy dive in front of Toffees manager David Moyes, who had claimed "divers" like Suarez were turning people away from the game.
January 2013
- Handles the ball prior to scoring the winning goal in Liverpool's 2-1 victory at non-league Mansfield Town in the FA Cup third round. (don't agree that was intentional but grabbed the headlines. )
- Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers warns Suarez could face punishment from the club after admitting he dived to try to win a penalty against Stoke.
On 21 April 2013, in a 2-2 draw with Chelsea in a Premier League game at Anfield he appeared to bite opposing player Branislav Ivanović. It was not noticed by the officials, and Suarez scored an equaliser in injury time. This was the second incident of its kind involving Suarez. He was charged with violent conduct by the FA and fined an undisclosed sum by his club.
Take into account the numerous times in the media he has made advances to clubs since last summer. I reckon anything over 40m is great business for us. Take into account that we could maybe be getting 15m for Carroll and possible 10m for Skrtel plus what ever the owners cough up and that's a very big budget. Suarez is no Liverpool legend it takes more then two years to earn that status, ask Carragher or Gerrard. The future is bright and Liverpool will surprise a lot throughout the summer and the season that lies ahead.
Thanks.
Quigz23
BTW I did get him on the back of my shirt lol not the new one ;-).
11 Jun 2013 20:07:14
Just so you know suarez joined fc gronigen from nacional then later went onto ajax.
ACHILLES.
You forgot the whole mess with Groningen when he was trying to push through his move to Ajax.
Didn't Suarez join Ajax from gronigen?
Nevada {Ed030's Note - Yeah mate. }
And as the previous poster alluded he took Groningen to court to force a transfer to Ajax.
Well I do not think Suarez did anything wrong in blocking that shot in world cup
I would have done the same thing too
2011 (ynwa)
He's waiting to see what happens about him punching a player in the face for Uruguay too.
Plus, remember when he ran over the player's back trying to get the ball back quick? (Think it was against ZSP; can't believe he got away with it tbh!)
He's waiting to see what happens about him punching a player in the face for Uruguay too.
Plus, remember when he ran over the player's back trying to get the ball back quick? (Think it was against ZSP; can't believe he got away with it tbh!)
Sorry bout the Groningen mix up wow forgot about that. I suppose my point really was take the cash and move on. Thanks for the replays.
Quigz23
11 Jun 2013 22:31:33
I really don't understand thise ramblings when Liverpool bought suarez they exactly knew what they were getting, so what's the use of this ramblings, we even knew if we don't start playing in highest level he will go, because only mad player will refuse to have a life time opportunity playing in highest level, we even know suarez won't be the last player to leave, if we don't start competing in highest level many more will go, so again what's the use of this ramblings, we even couldn't achieve europe forget champions league, that's how POOR Liverpool as club are and have been for years, but we as fans try to paper over the cracks and have been doing for years, no class player will miss a golden opportunity and waste his talent for a club who have been that poor even EUROPA was out of their reach and still some how try to justify it!
It was an interesting read Quigz23.
11 Jun 2013 18:16:42
Don't know who this Waro guy is but I just wanted to reassure you that the world isn't against you.
Once you have stopped 'lambasting' everyone and quit with the MacDonald menu insults then maybe people will start to take your footballing opinions a little more seriously.
I'm all up for banter, but your just unpleasant mate.
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
I don't post to be liked Sam, I don't post to get a reaction, I post because I want to give my opinion on what's going on at my club.
Now you need to read this next bit very very carefully, I genuinely don't care what anyone thinks of me or what I post on this site, so you can call me what you like, make assumptions if you wish, but i'm not going anywhere anytime soon so unless the Ed's decide to block my posts, I can only suggest you skip my posts so they don't upset you as you obviously have a sensitive disposition.
Waro
Waro is the only Liverpool fan on this entire page who has accepted his club is a mid-table side and it isn't getting any better anytime soon. I applaud his honesty.
Disney!
Saying the world isn't against him and then criticizing him seems like a mixed message.
Nevada
Disney is the only fan on this site who hasn't accepted his club is about to take a big fall.
Disney is the only fan on this site who hasn't accepted his club is about to take a big fall.
Nevada, just think how disappointed you and the rest if the Liverpool fans will be if we are Champions again next season. It will mean another 10-15 years of MU winning Championships, but this time under Moyes. Debt is dwindling away and the revenues will exceed £500m in a couple of year's time. United will be making profits of over £100m every season, whilst Liverpool are still making losses.
The gap will continue to widen.
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 22:37:35
Disney what's new in that, Liverpool have been midtable for few years, now the difference is even europa is out of reach forget champions league.
11 Jun 2013 18:12:35
Eds fellow reds, just been on LFC website and surprisingly coutinho is the top selling name on the new shirt. A new legend in the making then
11 Jun 2013 18:03:13
hello eds, any transfer news regarding Muniain this summer?
11 Jun 2013 17:53:06
See Luis has been spouting forth again. he still blames everyone but himself. Also trying to play the racist card. Ie. " it's just because I'm South American". Wake up Luis. It's because you've been a fool and fail to correct the problem. Sort yourself out and there will be nothing to write about except your exceptional talent. Then all your daughter and family will hear will be good reports. It's up to you lad.
Red Knight
"I know I made a mistake in the incident with Ivanovic - it was me, my fault, and he didn't do anything to me. "
- Luis Suarez
How is he blaming everyone but himself. its plain to see that he is victimized by the english media the biggest point being the England captain john terry getting 4 games (half what suarez recieved) for his racial abuse incident. you would think the captain of england whom should be the perfect role model would get a stiffer punishment.
Don't disagree about Terry, but let's face it Suarez is his own worst enemy. Cut the diving, pinching etc and just play the great football he is capable of. I know others do it and get away with it, but Luis can turn this around by himself if he really wants to. BUT DOES HE WANT TO? I don't think so.
Red Knight
Slim, what does the English media have to do with the length of JT's ban? You do know they don't set the bans? Lol
HB
11 Jun 2013 17:40:49
Disney for a man united fan you certainly spend a lot of your time on the Liverpool pages, you must have a lot of spare time, to go slagging us off after saying you don't see us as a threat, its worse than those teens who go chasing down one direction. Are the man u pages really that boring.
Listen Disney is deluded with some of his comments. He is right at home on this page. ;-)
The Irish Rover
They probably are as United have no worries and another easy EPL next season!
Actually the MU page is tragically boring today. And seems this is a BANTER site I thought I would go to a rival's page for some bantering.
Shame Liverpool fans have nothing to banter about ;)
Disney!
Banter? That would be hard to find Disney!
But if you want a good laugh, search for "Harry Scousser"
Promise you will feel better about Moyes at your club ;)
The real AG
We must have more than your self admitted boring united fans to banter about Sidney or you wouldn't be on here.
Disney must be really bored coming on our site all the time. Perhaps he has no friends or a girlfriend to keep him occupied. I don't post here very often but he sounds a right sad little prick.
My missus is laid next to me watching Gold Rush. Boredom is something I have become used to. Bored of winning all these EPL titles ;)
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 17:39:32
The fact is Dracula has taken you for a set of mugs and has just used you and the situation to angle for a move to a bigger club. I remember when you used to matter now you are just a mid table feeder club. Any closer to winning the league? I don't think so. Long live king Brenny he is doing a brilliant job.
Ah, it wasnt that long ago Ronnie went to a bigger club and Tevez too for that matter. Looks like Liverpool are not the only club that can't hold onto the big players but hey Kloot at least the Glazers are happy.
The Irish Rover
You talk a load of kloot anyway
derryred
Rainfish I think you should keep quiet. It isn't very wise to have digs at our manager until you are confident that your man can cut it.
As for talking about a player making a mug of us. what about shrek (time and again) and Rio with his amnesia which was followed up by salary demands
Puzzled
Oh how you cried when King Ronny knocked you out. And after giving him that reception too. Tut tut.
The Juicer
11 Jun 2013 18:28:23
Where am from kloot means panty! (No joke)
So I completly agree your post is just like your name!
Malak
Long Live BR
Well for another season hopefully then no more!
Quality post mate, so very true. Now wait for the deluded backlash. history blah blah blah, next year blah blah blah.
Much love
Is that a bit like Beckham and Ronaldo? I remember Rooney saying he wanted to leave to a bigger club as well.
"Much love", aren't you a Spurs fan? Nothing you guys have to shout about?
The real AG
Despite winning all and mighty, how does it feel when still average players like Rooney says he wants to play for a bigger club?
Must rile you right up where the sun don't shine.
The real AG
These fans of other teams proper need to jib it.
Only makin' our pages more popular, 'n lettin' us know we're on their mind.
Tottenham? Soz, what have u's won again? Ever?!
11 Jun 2013 17:39:10
Hey Ed's, I'm from Canada so i'm not really sure how the media over in England works. But I know actors and such can hire publicists to keep a good image, or have a good repore with certain papers. Is this the case with Footballers as well? Or does the media just $!^* on everybody over there. In any case, Suarez needs one. Thanks,
JK_LFC {Ed002's Note - Suarez is still trying to blame everyone else but himelf. He had a warning from the FA about statements he made in Amsterdam last summer and seems to be looking to pushing the FA to perhaps charge him again. I have have no doubts this is deliberate and he has now become delusional.}
Delusional that's a happy boat
11 Jun 2013 17:34:21
Do you Henrik Mkhitrayan would be a good replacement for Suarez if he leaves? And is Mkhitrayan worth the £22 million BR is apparently ready to offer for him? {Ed030's Note - Yes I would try negotiating to get the fee to around £18m that would be a reasonable enough price imo.
I think if we do loose suarez that Armenian boy wouldn't be only buy, but he's like an AM for me.
11 Jun 2013 17:24:25
to everyone asking what will be happening with the money from the sale of suarez I asked this a while ago and this is what I got.
07 Jun 2013
07 Jun 2013 10:48:52
ed002 I've resigned myself to losing suarez its a case of when not if, but does this mean when suarez is sold the money from him won't be put back into the team or a replacment bought for him?
thanks {Ed002's Note - If Liverpool are buying the likes of Toure, Aspas, maybe Mkhitaryan, maybe a Tello or Alberto, an Ince or similar, a centre back or two, perhaps a goalkeeper and a youngster or two, where do you think that money comes from?}
bigW
Toure - Free
Aspas - £7. 8M
Mkitaryan - £20M
Alberto - £5M
Papa - £18M
Ilori - £4M
Mignolet - £8M (If Reina leaves)
These are the players that we are probably going to get and how much they would probably cost so the total expense is about £62. 8M. Suarez will likely go around for £45M and Carroll for £15m and with players such as Skrtel, Coates, Shelvey, Spearing, Reina possibly leaving then that should at least cover the expense so what about the £20-25M put in by the owners (as a few ed's have said)?
Don't agree eds. add all them up then you get 50odd million. But if we get two defenders then at least one on our books will go and if we get a goalie then it will be replaced by Reina so that reduces the transfer budget. We would have got them players suarez our or not.
11 Jun 2013 18:38:26
Excellent Reply Ed.
Some here believes money is printed in US.
From the money tree in BR's garden of eden
And what about selling carroll, skrtel, coates, spearing, shelvey, pacheco, assaidi, maybe downing and already our transfer budget?
El capitano
Guys, this is real life not Fifa13. Also, maybe the owner's would like to make a profit for the first time since buying the club? Crazy talk, I know.
HB
11 Jun 2013 11:25:26
More Ivan Rakitic rumors, still don't think there's anything in it eds? Seems there would e a space after Sahin flopped & especially if Shelvey leaves. He is quality & would improve the midfield we have imo.
RedKev
11 Jun 2013 16:42:40
Nice to see Aspas already getting lambasted by Liverpool supporters.
Its like De Ja Vu when we sign somebody without a superstar title. They get slated on here before even kicking a ball!
Remember a few moths ago when Coutinho and Sturridge wernt Liverpool quality? But a couple of Seasons back, Joe Cole was going to win us the league on his own!
Instead about talking about the guy who said wants out today, let's congratulate the man whos come in and wish him a successful career at Liverpool!
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
Who's lambasted him ye nugget? People are only voicing there concerns as to whether he will be a good buy or not, I don't want to put words in peoples mouths but every Liverpool supporter on here and in general will be supporting him and be desperate for him to do really well!
Waro
Oh yeah, sorry Waro, Forgot you read every blog site on the web. I'm not speaking about just the people on here you melt. In general I've seen well over 30 people say today he's not up to the grade and he's not good enough. Half the people probably haven't even seen him play! Obviously you want to nit pick at everything I say today don't you lad?
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
Voicing concerns is not going to help him settle in, and will not give him confidence. Only voice your concerns when he is having a bad game, not when he hasn't kicked a ball for us yet.
Your the only nugget here Waro old boy, every time I come onto this site your throwing about your opinions and slating every one eles. Your post are class A boring mate and all your negativatey is pathetic. You Lambaste player all the time on here.
Scottybhoy 1888
The thing is with Aspas, if we all knew he was Downings replacement then most of us would be happy. But there's that uncertainness that he maybe Suarez replacement and he simply isn't good enough to fill his boots. We need a world class player, a match winner. We could be losing our best player and replacing him with an average guy from an average team with an average ability
Order a large amount of laxatives and live in your toilet for a while Waro you nugget. Then maybe, just maybe, you can loosen up and see others views.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 18:10:38
Have you come wondering onto this site p**sed from the celtic site scot? If your replying to a bore lad then your life must be pretty sad! You say I lambast players on here all the time, well I will say the same to you as the two mugs I've showed up already today, show me the posts your accusing me of posting or STFU. I think sam defended himself pretty well without you coming on here as his knight in shining armour, you should be worrying about the fact your mickey mouse league might go to the wall rather than chattin bubbles on here. Still you could just play Rangers 20 times a year. don't make stuff up softlad.
Waro
One voice singing in the darkness
Just one voice of disention singing all alone
Just one voice
Lfc supporters are desperate for all our players to do well it is not our fault when they do not live up to expectations.
Ha ha ha ha, the real AG, your the most opinionated poster on this site lad, I've shown you up twice today as a blagger and not to be trusted, now run along and paint your toenails because your my b**ch now!
Waro
At what point did you "show me up" Waro?
Why don't you ask the others on this site who they rather trust, engage in a conversation with or banter?
I'll do my nails when you finish your shift at the hoe-house.
I am your b**ch? Nothing more constructive to say? All that the almighty warrior Waro can come up with?
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 21:36:32
Waro please stop being a disgusting w*nker!
I am beginning to think you're a bitter! That would actually explain alot!
11 Jun 2013 14:50:04
Eds, I was just wondering whether you rate John Achterberg as a Coach? I haven't got anything against the guy himself but since he took over first team duties, Pepe has looked a shadow of himself! Do you think the change of coach has affected Pepe performances or it is down to Pepe himself that his form has dipped in the last few years?
Jay Jay Okocha {Ed030's Note - I Wouldn't blame a coach for players performances mate and yes I think he is a pretty decent coach. }
Not even if the coach was Pearce?
11 Jun 2013 16:34:10
Eds, is there any interest in Adem Ljajic from Liverpool? How good is he? We seem to be linked with every attacking midfielder at the moment.
Thanks. {Ed030's Note - I wouldn't want him at Liverpool every manger he has worked with has not been pleased with his attitude. }
11 Jun 2013 16:24:45
Great to hear Coady speaking, sounds just like Carra. :D
Aldo
11 Jun 2013 16:20:21
hi eds, with suarez looking certain to leave and us due to get around the 50 mill mark for him (any less we would be mugs). who do you think we could potentially get in to replace him? going to be a real tough job : (
I disagree, any less. why would we be mugs? I think if any team paid over 45m it'd make them mugs, with Suarez's history. If I was for another team I wouldn't want him playing for us, noway on this earth will we get 50m for him, it simply won't happen!
Don are you crazy? Suarez is in an elite group of players who can say they're world class. As far as strikers go there aren't any better at he does. For all his off field antics, his performances on the pitch are well worth more than £50m.
Haha seriously you wouldn't want Suarez playing for us now? I don't care what he said or done, he could have bit his arm off for all I care he is a class footballer. Nice morals don't win trophies. I don't blame him for wanting to go. So don't be bitter.
I quite agree that he is a top class player but his antics on the pitch has resulted him being banned for a lot of games and no matter how good you are you ain't no good to the club if your not on the pitch
11 Jun 2013 16:07:02
br asked carra to play on 1 more season carra did not feel like it and toure is his replacement. aspas will come in and replace assaidi in the squad. quates and skrtl will be replaced with a starter and a young defender. we need a left back so we don't play johnsen there when enrique is injured or playing bad. if shelvey were to leave we will bring in another midfielder. we have sterling ibe no need for another winger. if suarez would leave it will change the plans the club had, there will be more funds available. I think the club are in a good situation regarding suarez, he is a 40/50mil player and has 4 years left on his contract, suarez will still be a 40 mil player next season if he stays 1 more year. + suarez has a problem only a few clubs can pay that kind of money in europe and what will he do when monaco comes in for him? he will not be playing cl there eather. maybe madrid don't want to spend that kind of money on him. barca don't need him and bayern neither. I would sell suarez and strenghten the squad, why hang on to a player that wants to leave. the last 12 matches we played some good football, I have posed this before I really believe if we had a worldclass defender next to agger and a right winger that makes goals we would have got cl this season. arsenal and tottenham are not better than us. and I was surprised when ayre said that cl next season is not a priority, get a worldclass cb 1 worldclass midf and a worldclass right winger that scores. malta
11 Jun 2013 16:03:38
Eds, with the possible departure of suarez do you see Benteke and mkhitaryan joining or just one of them? {Ed030's Note - Both player have been answered numerous times use the search function. }
11 Jun 2013 15:56:51
Fact of the matter is FSG have come in with the aim of taking us back to the top with along with restoring our financial stability, players like Sturridge and Coutiniho fit into that along with BR's philosophy, it's all part of the learning curve for FSG, they've made mistakes with the likes of Carroll, Downing and Henderon (despite his improvements), so now its understandable they're a little reluctant to spend, fact of the matter is for a decent £35-50m striker we need europe otherwise we won't atract anyone worth that kind of money without having to drastically overspend on wages, the club knows this and are buying players at a decent price who will move us up the table, next year we want to be knocking on the door for europe at least if not getting in amongst them depending on how much Arsenal/Spurs strengthen compared to our marginal schedule gain from no european football, that will only happen if we spend wisely and keep Suarez
Unbelievable post - Henderson a mistake!! - £16 million will look a bargain in a few years time with this lad.
11 Jun 2013 18:40:00
In few years if we aren't in the Top 4. Everything will be a Bargain.
See what happens when coutino becomes our star cl here we go again
11 Jun 2013 15:45:26
aspas has passed his medical.
Cheers Doc
11 Jun 2013 15:39:36
Just when I thought we were making progress towards next season, Reina's agent has said he is staying.
If true, this is the worst possible news.
Rubbish.
At a point where we are undergoing change with regard to senior players moving on (Carragher, Skrtel and Suarez), Reina is very important to the squad.
Of course, he remains an excellent keeper and I saw an improvement in form the second half of last season, which I hope continues into the future, at LFC.
The real AG
We should still buy Mignolet!
Valdes staying an extra year at Barca delayed his plans. He will go next year I guess.
If it was up to me I would sell him now rather than have another Real/Barca drama again next year.
11 Jun 2013 17:03:49
Mignolet is not that good
Keep pepe for 1 more season at least
Basy
While my opinions on Reina are well noted, I have to agree with The real AG here, having some stability is important when so many players are likely to be leaving and arriving. I think a better time to sell would be next year, if his performances don't pick up.
11 Jun 2013 21:31:50
@ The real AG
I completely agree I think Reina clearly picked up and regained form the second half of the season. If he continues then we, once again, have one of the best keepers around at our disposal.
I wouldn't be overly keen on spending circa 8m on backup (would we sign Mignolet now just to spend a year teaching him how to kick?). Mignolet has notions of the world cup too so he wouldn't come as backup (Courtois obv Belgium's No 1 but still).
Maybe Reina needs pressure from a better No 2 or maybe he just lost interest in the "projects" he kept getting promised and now he might finally be realising we're actually beginning to come good again. We can't but speculate so if I see a good No 2 being signed then I'll think ya BR think's Reina needs competition.
Sean Ireland
11 Jun 2013 13:28:20
Hey eds, couple of questions.
If we do manage another decent CB signing and coates/skrytle leave, do you think we would need a 4th CB or would kelly be moved to CB and Wisdom promoted to cover Johnson at RB?
Also who would you see covering LB? A new signing or Robinson?
Thank you {Ed030's Note - I think Kelly will slot in either Position when needed mate. }
11 Jun 2013 15:42:13
There's a picture of him with zaf Iqbal on an lfc kop article, look for yourself.
11 Jun 2013 15:42:12
Luis Alberto Suarez OUT Luis Alberto IN
11 Jun 2013 15:40:19
Who is going to replace Suarez with the £40m+ we get for him when he leaves?
Carlton Cole.
Crowman.
Crowman, we can't afford to spend all that money + the rest of our transfer budget on a single player, even if he is a free agent
Emile Heskey
Robbie fowler
11 Jun 2013 15:40:14
Suarez should shut up, always saying he wants a move, your still contracted and I think Real Madrid want Bale more than you, don't ruin what you have got suarez
11 Jun 2013 15:38:31
Hi eds! it's lookin almost certain that Suarez is going to leave us!with the money we should get for him any opinion on who should b brought in to replace him? I also want to see Liverpool bring in Toby alderweireld and Christian eriksen! Break the bank and get these sort of deals done! Certainly addin these to would enhance the squad and move us to the next level! I'm not havin it when people say they wouldn't b interested! We r Liverpool!!
Being were Liverpool doesn't mean a thing to the likes of erikson who is a spurs fan!
11 Jun 2013 15:37:49
Aspas has passed his medical, excited?
I am having a knee trembler I am so excited!
Yes, nice to see a player make comments that its an honor to play for us and looking fwd to it for a change.
Cant get excited about signing the Spanish Ricky Lambert.
Spanish ricky lambert! what a silly comment since when was lambert fast, tricky and pacy!
11 Jun 2013 18:33:49
Congratulations no name! You have managed to post the most clueless gibberish on this site ever!
The Spanish lambert my arse!
$odd off troll!
Malak
Only ever played one season in the top flight despite being 25, and never played at international level, so I stand by the Spanish Ricky Lambert comment.
Aspas is more of a cross between Bellamy and Suarez.
11 Jun 2013 15:35:16
Hi eds with aspas joining, what position will he play do you think?. will he play as a wide player or slotted upfront as a striker what are your thoughts?, thanks eds appreciate the work you do{Ed030's Note - I think he may take Downings position but I am not sure. }
He is a direct replacement for Suarez. The rest of the Suarez funds will go towards the rest of the squad.
Disney!
Sydney he is not. Good news for you is Rooney is your transfer fund (obviously minus Malcolm's cut).
K79
K79, oh sorry, I meant Liverpool will use the proceeds of the Suarez sale to buy Cavani and Higuain. LOL!
Disney!
How do u come to that conclusion disney?
Kopgray, if you look at it without the 'Liverpool hope goggles' on, you will see that Aspas is just a much poorer version of Suarez. The editor has also said that Aspas is a replacement for Suarez. It might not be what Liverpool fans want to hear, but it is what it is. I am not saying another cheap striker will not be signed, just that Aspas is the direct replacement for Suarez.
Disney!
The Editor (Ed002) suggests a comment was made by one of his agents that Aspas was Suarez's replacement. Then Aspas says he hopes players like Suarez, Coutinho etc will help him settle. That rather sounds like he hopes to play with Suarez.
While Suarez will definitely leave, the inquiry of Benteke and serious interest in Mickey shows otherwise.
The real AG
The ed did not say he wasa direct replacement for Suarez. Ed002 pointed out a statement by an agent (i think) stating he was a direct replacement for Suarez, whoch may or may not be BS.
The Irish Rover
Like normal Sydney you only read what you want to see and are normally factually wrong! It's your Manchester United Goggles that do it, they impair your judgement!
K79
Disney, we cannot possibly say that he is a poorer version of suarez until he has played the same time in this league as Suarez. until that point, he has the possibility of being better, worse or the same.
11 Jun 2013 18:48:56
Stop living in Disneyland lad!
Get off the sauce, it is obvious it's harming your health! Are you lost or something? So high on the sauce you ended on the wrong banter page!
I am not alone in saying this, we don't need the opinion of a confused lost child:)) Deuces!
Btw what is Man United? Sounds like something kinky!
Malak
Disney, r u a manc! Haha jogon ye sad person
Irish, forget me mate. I'm talking nonsense. Liverpool are in talks to sign Higuain as we speak. Just personal terms to be agreed I'm hearing. Higuain has decided to leave the biggest club in Spain to join the 7th best club in England ;)
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 15:28:41
"Davey should we all wrap our arms round him and say thanks for takin the piss out this club again?"
No, just sign-off with a name so I can refer back and see your level of support throughout the numerous Suarez incidents.
Many of us did you see as we're supporters, but we're not f*****g soft.
This is the problem, this is not about what Suarez has done for many of you, it's the fact that he has asked to leave and as a consequence the fickle-fans arise like turds out of a bog.
Some people have short memories.
I don't agree with none of his actions, but I'm certainly not going down the hypocrite route from defending a player to the hilt (regardless of me agreeing or not) to "hating him" for requesting to leave.
Get my point?
This is merely a generalisation of today's football fan because I did not hear one (yes ONE) person calling-for Suarez to leave after all of the problems he's had - it's simply a realisation that he now officially wants to leave, and you all crawl out of the woodwork like the bitter ones do when their bird leaves them.
Is there definitive confirmation that the club did not want to sell him?
FSG?
DaveyBootle
What? This is some jumbled and incoherent post mate. So sad that posts like this are published.
Forget about Suarez, the real issue here is why our top players eventually want to leave the club?
Torres, Suarez, Reina. There happy here but have to move if they want to compete for top prizes.
11 Jun 2013 16:25:10
Davey lad what are you going on about none of us wanted him to leave because we supported the lad through all his mistakes but he's pushed it too far he's not shown lfc or us fans any respect,
Every one is entitled to der opinion but I think the majority would say suarez let him self down no one told him to abuse evra and no one told him to bite ivanovic
Bottom line is suarez knows we need him he's a brilliant footballer but he does not care he only thought of himself
He owes a hell of a lot to lfc!
Basy
Spot on Davey, but don't expect to get through to these clowns with reasoning and logic lad because there reactionary know it all's who spit the dummy once things aren't to there liking!
Waro
That's right Waro you clown, keep abusing everyone.
The real AG
Waro alter Ego Davey
The Real AG, are you still here sweetheart, I told you to go and paint your toenails didn't I.
Waro
I will when you finish your shift having fun with nice old gentlemen at work.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 15:24:24
When we paid out that load of cash for Downing was it on the back of him having an awesome season for Villa? Did he win their player of the season award?
Am I right in thinking he played in the middle of midfield that season? Did they play 4-3-3 with Downing playing attacking left central? Maybe I'm imagining this. But if correct why not have him back in there as cover if nothing else?
He just lacks that quality good worker but nothing special
He played right midfield and kept cutting in onto his left foot. He did have a great season (& was their player of the year), I was well excited at him coming but ya it hasn't worked out he appeared to have the ability so either lost form big time or doesn't have the bottle for the big club.
Would happily take 8m for him now rather than watch him run fast and then stop to turn around every time he gets to a defender again next year. Shooting has been shocking for us too. He'll do well for the group of clubs below us in the EPL, if one of them sign him that is!
Sean Ireland
11 Jun 2013 15:11:17
If I bought a lot of class C eggs I would end up with egg on my face. For the cost of buying 3 average eggs why not buy one class A egg. In the long run, the club might stand a better chance at winning something.
Worst. analogy. ever
Maybe our shop doesn't buy class A eggs anymore because the class A eggs want to be in a store with all the money that's winning awards. We are more like Morrisons at the minute. It's a really nice atmosphere inside but were not winning much.
Or maybe were scared to buy supposed class A eggs because sometimes they turn out to really be class C eggs (carroll) and sometimes they are scrambled (suarez).
Mr H- Clucking sick of it already.
Because the class A egg may not want to come to us as we're not in the european egg cup (bum bum)
Surely it depends on how many people you have to feed. If you are boiling it or making an omelette.
If boiling it and it's a class A rather than a class C does it take longer?
It'll make only a small omelette but that is better than a boiled egg because more people can share it (providing there are enough knifes and forks). Of course, with an omelette you can augment it with bacon perhaps.
Eggs. it's not as easy as it first appears.
MartinR
Why don't you "cluck" up another analogy? This one sure ain't worth chicken poop.
The real AG
Unless said class A egg decides the media have been harsh to him (semolina and all that) and that he has been treated badly (scrambled?) so needs to move on to a more successful frying pan?
Then your back to square 1 - deciding whether to buy 1 class A egg or 3 class C eggs!
HB
Semolina? isn't that a pudding?
The Irish Rover
11 Jun 2013 18:09:52
What about a class B egg and a class C or 5 class D
Irish,
Yes, you got me - I meant salmonella. Who are you the language police? haha
HB
Why has Egg been chosen as an analogy? Why not a lamppost or a bacon salad?
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 15:08:06
Why do the Liverpool owners show distinct lake of ambition?
Our once great champions league club, finished 7 an improvement of on the season before where they finished 8th place. As business men these Americans must realise the premiership is about to be flooded with money/. Why don't they put their hands in their pockets and spent £50 t0 £100 million on some real talent. pay now and reap later. The real money is in the champions league and not mid table. A nothing team.
If john Henry was willing to purchase a £600 million club for £200 million. Then why not spent another £100 million on players so we can compete at champions league stage.
You make £100m sound like nothing
You haven't a clue seriously TROLL
You must have a short memory mate. tried that look where it got us. steady and slow is best. jason h
Do you not think that if the club was worth 600 million, it would have went for more than it did? And also, the transfer window is even open yet! How can you say that they show a lack of ambition because we haven't signed anyone in your price braket BEFORE THE WINDOW IS EVEN OPEN! They have backed us with large amounts of money in the past, it isn't their fault that they were misguided by Dalglish and Commoli
Thats a complete lack of understanding.
Clueless moron. That's all I am saying. maybe you will realize how clueless you are?
The real AG
Please state where this £50-100m would actually come from?
Bearing in mind LFC are still running at hefty losses.
HB
11 Jun 2013 18:42:19
This is the worst post ever. even harry had better ones.
From an Oil Barron owner that is not JW HEnry
20 million hendo
20 million downing
15 million allen
11 million borini
8 million coutinho
13 million sturridge.
6 million adams
+15 million here and there
therez your 100million spent on team.
dude its not abt the money money money
its not ant the owners owners
bad players play good if they play for the club with heart. examples the entire everton team.
its just that people come to Liverpool because its a big club. which frnakkly we aren't atm
while we need people who know it was a big club and nw needs its players to step up and bring the glory back.
wats a cavani if he doesn't want to play for the club!
11 Jun 2013 15:07:52
Hear Sporting want over 10 million euros for Ilori. All I'm reading from people who watched him is he is erratic. Surely we can move now onto someone better we need someone ready to play not potential.
Hope we move on now to Papa or De Vrij or Alderweild. These defenders are ready for first team football.
11 Jun 2013 15:05:01
When is suarez the person going to stop talkin!
Basy
11 Jun 2013 15:04:26
I see poor aul suarez blaming the nasty media again for his reason for leaving. Well I be honest I agree that the british media do go over the top at time but luis I have a few words for ya grow a pair and honour your contract that my beloved club gave u when they bk u to the hilt u should be priviled to play for OUR club I'd give anything to grace that playing surface in a LFC jersey so count urslef lucky JON96
11 Jun 2013 14:24:51
A question for Ed01.
Are you worried that there have been no real links to a CDM?
I remember you saying last season that you thought this was position in need of strengthening and I agree.
You mentioned Medel originally, do you think this remains a possibility due to the state of Sevilla?
Or are there other players you would prefer?
Thanks Eds, and keep up all the great work!
Puzzled Red {Ed001's Note - I do think we need one, but I have heard of no interest in signing one. Maybe this will be Coady's chance to shine?}
We have shown interest in a 18 yr old Brazillian CDM whose name I forgot.
Matheus Biteco of Gremio.
11 Jun 2013 12:29:29
Question for Ed001 if you're about mate, as I know Ed002 doesn't like to speculate too much.
But where, in your honest opinion do you think Liverpool will finish in the league this season. Considering it looks more and more likely that Suarez will leave and the likes of Aspas will be signing (tell the truth I've never heard of the kid until he was linked with us so I don't really know of his ability)
With the information you know, as well as what's in the public domain, what are your thoughts? Would be good to know.
Cheers {Ed001's Note - Europa League qualification, most likely, 4th is not completely out of reach though, with all the changes at other clubs.}
11 Jun 2013 16:00:47
Ed001 are you a Liverpool fan?
11 Jun 2013 16:00:47
Ed001 are you a Liverpool fan? {Ed002's Note - He is.}
11 Jun 2013 14:33:08
Hi all.
The last post about begovic done in 72 hours wasn't from me
Can the eds help?
Regards ashley {Ed002's Note - I can agree you need help.}
11 Jun 2013 15:04:38
ED 02. you are awesome. lols.
I can't control my laugh.
What's that 'backtracking' motion I'm sensing? Like the sound the rubbish lorry makes when reversing :)
This would be a good time to give up your know-it-all ITK act.
The real AG
Could I suggest registering so that we all know who the real Ashley is!
By the way, if your right about Begovic. great. it just seems a little bit like your taking a stab at a rumour that's been circulating all summer! People tend to get a feel for the genuine posts and the porkies!
No offence meant. just banter as the page suggests!
Well register and use your log in then people know if its from you then
Smooth ashley.
Unless your hands have a mind of their own I think the post was by you ashley.
I believe you ash mate ;)
11 Jun 2013 13:18:22
If Liverpool were given 20mill to spend, and if carroll goes for 15 and suarez for 50 and if fsg give us the money from the tramsfers that's atleast 85mill to spend, so why are we not looking at bigger names?
11 Jun 2013 15:05:18
Papa is the buggest name this window.
11 Jun 2013 15:14:47
Bigger names want Champions League football and bigger wages. Liverpool may be willing to spend money on fees but they aren't willing to give players contracts of more than 70-80k per week. Which is sensible considering they don't have 30m of champions league money to spend on wages.
Liverpools best shot is going for young players and developing them or for players that the bigger clubs aren't convinced about for some reason like Suarez when he was at Ajax.
All the big name top bracket players will go to the big name top bracket clubs. In the Prem United, City, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal are all considered bigger clubs as they all battle it out for the champions league places. Plus forigen players would prefer to be based in London which helps Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs. And United and City are the top two clubs in the country. Then you have all the top teams abroad such as Juve, AC Milan, Inter, Bayern, Dortmund, Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG and Monaco. These clubs will sign the top players and Liverpool don't stand a chance against any of them when competing for a players signature.
A. FSG are a business first so will want money held back. Things like the stadium. Covering loss of income from lack of shirt sales on the away kits.
B. we need players of good quality in depth. If we could get 5 really good players for around £10m each that would be better. We improve the squad in all areas it's not like we were miles behind looking at the second half of the season.
Once we have a really good squad and maybe a CL place then next summer we look to players of the next level when we are also at the next level. TBH at that point we may be happy to do the same again if it gets the results.
Because we haven't even got the 15m for Carroll or the 50m for Suarez yet?
JFT 96
JP
We are finally doing our homework in regards to players as the two Spanish players are top class!
If we have £85m+ to spend then we need Kenny Dalglish to offer advice.
What big names are you referring to? Here are some:Yossi Benayoun. Roque Santa Cruz, Dean Whitehead, Franco Di Santo, Sebastien Squillaci. big enough for you? Twunt!
OP spurs, chelsea and citeh are not bigger clubs than Liverpool.
They may not be bigger clubs historically, or in terms of fan base. But they regulary play Champions league football and challenge for titles. They can also pay players more than Liverpool.
So any player who has no emotional attachment to any english club if given the choice of winning titles and and playing in the champions league and earning a huge wage with City, Chelsea or even Spurs
Or moving to Liverpool and finishing between 10th and 6th, with maybe a europa league run and earning less money.
Which do you think they would choose?
Big teams win their league or at least challenge for it. Liverpool are fighting it out for a europa league place with the likes of Everton, Newcastle, Swansea and West brom. That doesn't sound like the actions of a big club.
They may not be bigger clubs historically, or in terms of fan base. But they regulary play Champions league football and challenge for titles. They can also pay players more than Liverpool.
So any player who has no emotional attachment to any english club if given the choice of winning titles and and playing in the champions league and earning a huge wage with City, Chelsea or even Spurs
Or moving to Liverpool and finishing between 10th and 6th, with maybe a europa league run and earning less money.
Which do you think they would choose?
Big teams win their league or at least challenge for it. Liverpool are fighting it out for a europa league place with the likes of Everton, Newcastle, Swansea and West brom. That doesn't sound like the actions of a big club.
11 Jun 2013 13:17:42
Afternoon All,
The Andy Carroll saga seems to be dragging on a bit, is it really due to the player 'upping' his demands? or is he genuinely wanting another chance at LFC, Which I find baffling as its clear he does not fit into what BR is building, or as I suspect is he holding out for bids from other clubs, mainly Newcastle?
11 Jun 2013 15:06:26
he wants 100k week. only a blind fool will provide that. I believed we, and harry redknap pays extra ordianry wages.
But Big same is impossible.
Does Andy Carroll really want to turn into Duncan Ferguson of West-ham. Spend the rest of his career fighting off relegation. Hoping one day to be invited back to the England team.
At Least at Newcastle he had the stage, LFC too, no one will think too much of him at west-ham.
It may be his own fault. He could of gone to Italy.
He's on holiday so nothing done until he gets back to uk.
11 Jun 2013 13:16:08
Who ever stands up and defends Luis Suarez is clealry not a fan of Liverpool but a fan of Suarez.
The guy is behaving like a person and has absolutely no respect for anyone associated with Liverpool Football Club. How can you not see that?
Dont let this imbecile pull wool over your eyes, look past the goals and skills and see the bigger picture. The clubs integrity and for all it stands for, Luis Suarez's conduct since the day he walked in hasn't been acceptable and certainly is not the Liverpool way.
Is he trying to make the club look stupid? Is he trying to make the fans look like persons? Hate to be the bearer of bad news guys, but Suarez doesn't want to play for Liverpool anymore! And if you believe different or your trying to convince yourself what he's said is lost in translation, the press are being harsh on him and without him Liverpool would be a sinking ship, then he is most certainly is making a person out of you!
I don't want players at Liverpool who don't want to be here and are only convinced to stay by large wage packets. We as fans say Play for the crest, and he certainly wouldn't be if he were to stay here any longer would he?
Its not his aspirations that annoy me either, he deserves champions league football for his ability on the pitch. Nobody on this earth could doubt what a fantastic football player he is and if he wanted Madrid, who could blame him? Its his public speaking, controversy and his way of deflecting all of his problems on Liverpool F. C that's makes him a class A moron. He could have kept all of this in house but insists on making all his feeling public which really pisses me off. I think many people at the club will be relieved when he's gone to be hoenst!
Id stand by Liverpool more so if we slipped further down the table but had a bunch of lads who gave 100% to the club and conducted thesmelves in the ways expected than have a joker like Suarez here producing, no doubt great things on the pitch but is continualy staining the reputation of LFC. Thankfully though I can't see us slipping any futher with or without him!
The way I see it is it takes a lifetime to build a repuatation and 10 seconds to destroy one. The club is more imporatnt than Luis Suarz and if its in the best interest for the club to sell (which personally I think it is) then let's stand by the club and Brendan Rodgers going forward as we've stood by Suarez for long enough!
Selling him, we'd have a war chest to go out and carefully re-invest in qulaity players which BR has already shown he can do.
Im going on a bit now so ill end it on a open note.
Class & Abilty or The Clubs Integrity?
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
I fully sympathise with Luis and don't blame him at all for moving on. However, it has all been a consequence of his own personic actions. But I still thank Luis for his entertainment on the pitch and wish him the best of luck wherever he ends up.
cozinoz
It's not that he doesn't want to play for Liverpool lad it's that he wants to play in the champions League and actually have a chance of winning it or at least winning a trophy, something were miles off doing, so take your Liver bird tinted specs off and look at the bigger picture, more money better climate and most importantly the chance to win some trophy's. FACT!
Waro
"I don't want players at Liverpool who don't want to be here and are only convinced to stay by large wage packets. We as fans say Play for the crest, and he certainly wouldn't be if he were to stay here any longer would he?"
You are wrong and have a short memory.
He has played his heart out for this club, remember that, regardless of your opinion.
DaveyBootle
Excellent post Sam. But, be prepared for abuse from the Suarez lovers (Harry Scousser).
I fear, no matter how much anyone makes it clear, some will not accept that Suarez wants out himself and will blame everyone from Malak to FSG for it.
The real AG
I've got no problem if Suarez is sold on Sam. As long as suitable replacements are found.
But if you're going on about the club's integrity, let's have it right here. He should have been moved on last Summer if that's the case.
Why wasn't he? Simple, because we were very clearly understrength and it wasn't in the club's interest at the time to do so.
The club will sell him, I hope, when the time is right.
We could eek another year out of him, improve the squad strength in the meanwhile, and be in a much better position to do without him one year on. But if it is this Summer, fair enough.
But Luis doesn't have to go with Liverpool fans demonising him, that's all. It would be nice to meet up with him in the CL in a couple of seasons time and I, for one, would give him a good clap on to the pitch.
The Juicer
I don't blame him for all that Waro, its him being a media darling discussing his future in the open, practically prostituting himself for a move. It isn't on, FACT!
And yes Davey, fair point he has played his heart out for the club and maybe that part didn't make to much sence which I apologise for. Its his antics infurriate me and as I said, I find his recent comments completely disrespectful to everyone associated with the club.
Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA
I cannot believe Liverpool fans are buying the "I love Liverpool but I am being hounded out of England" nonsense. Suarez is moving on because he wants to play for a better team. Football fans in general are naive when it comes to their own club, but Liverpool fans sure are some of the most naive around. Suarez has used every dirty trick in the book to get out of Liverpool and because of his actions RM will get him for far less than some of you are expecting. The bloke is a disgrace. When he signed for Liverpool I predicted he would be as bad as Tevez when he wants to leave England, I was so so wrong. HE IS WORSE!
Disney!
We'll imagine u got banned for 8 games for being racist with NO proof just evra's word againts his. Then the world makes u look like a vilen. Add to that John terry got banned for 4 games WITH proof I'd want to leave to.
Clap onto the pitch christ almighty have you got blinkers on he's a 1st class t**t. You realise he's trying to force is way out.
Disney I couldn't agree more with you. Waro speaking garbage again.
More nonsense Disney. I can't remember Suarez spending half a season in his native country because he didn't want to be in England. I would also rather a player says he wants to leave and leaves than put in a transfer request so he can hold his club to ransom for his pay demands and of course Manchester United bend over and get screwed.
The Irish Rover
Irish, where do you think Suarez went whilst banned for racial abuse and biting Ivanovic?
I also agree regarding Rooney, but Suarez is ten times as bad as Tevez and Rooney combined.
AND YOU KNOW IT!
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 18:20:37
Mightyreds, don't you mean mightyreddevils. I've wound you up that tight your agreeing with mancs, ha ha ha ha, yes, love all that me!
Waro
Ha ha as Waro gets his knickers in a twist again and loses another arguargument with me. My little smug smile is a joy.
11 Jun 2013 13:52:26
silly season is here so time to view are potential squad for next season based on rumours
keeper. MIGNOLET
(reina looks to be off and this guy looks the best from 3 others being begovic and vorm). jones will probably stay for 1 more year as cover.
rightback. JOHNSON
no reason to think he will be beaten to this position but kelly will surely be breathing down his neck and mclaughlin looks ready to move above flanaghan in the pecking order
leftback. ENRIQUE
cant see brendan rogers going into the new season with no proper cover as think robinson will go out on loan this season so somebody needs to come in
centerbacks. TOURE. AGGER
might well start off in this position as skrtel looks to be on his way out wisdom is a player for the middle and if they can lower the price papadoupoulos might still arrive from schalke would expect coates to also move on with Liverpool agreeing a fee for llori sooner rather than later pearce as a free agent might also add to are central options next season
midfield 2. LUCAS. GERRARD
can see spearing moving on as well as shelvey but with allen, henderson we got some good cover still I can see a player coming in if i'm honest strootman or alonso will be my dream signings mr rogers
attacking 3. ASPAS. MKHITARYAN. COUTINHO
this at present looks to be the most realistic combination as aspas is there and mkhitaryan looks to be are number 1 target.
sterling and suso are both looking to break in this year and a deal for luis alberto looks to be getting closer and depending on price think Liverpool will go back for thomas ince as well with ibe banging on the door and borini able to play in these positions assaidi will probably go out on loan and there will be a question mark over stuart downing and if a place can be found for him in the squad.
front man. STURRIDGE
carroll is gone and i'm afraid suarez is following him out the door aspas and borini can act as back up to sturridge and yesil and morgan i'm sure will have there say but if suarez goes i'd like to see a 4th striker in place
WHAT DO THE EDS /YOU GUYS THINK
mystic red
I think Downing should be played in his position at Villa. The reason we paid that amount for him. The reason most were excited we were going to sign him and the reason he was player of the year for villa. Central.
Carlos
I think Downing should be sold while he will still get a reasonable fee.
Pal leave it out I was never excited about him and for the record we signed him because he put the most crosses in the league that year I. e Andy Carroll it was to suit him the same applies to Henderson he delivered a nice ball that why he played right wing for us under Kenny
11 Jun 2013 13:42:35
The Real AG, You have posted further down the page that I have written off Borini and Allen, can you show me a post where I have done this, feel free to cut and paste it and show it to everybody on here, if not then I will be expecting an apology.
Waro
11 Jun 2013 15:08:33
Waro,
Chill mate. anyways I have written off both of them. don't worry, you can count me in.
I don't need to cut and paste anything to prove your view towards Allen, Borini or indeed even Lucas, and you won't be getting any apology from me.
It is pretty much clear to me that you have players who you feel are good enough for LFC (Morgan, Carroll, Suarez the DF and Reina springs to mind) and players who you feel are NOT good enough for LFC (Allen, Borini, Lucas, Kolo Toure springs to mind).
I distinctly remember you slating Allen, when somebody suggested that he has been playing through injury.
You put forward this thread as others on this site had an opinion (something you have been preaching yourself with respect to your hate of FSG and anyone who mildly remains supportive of FSG) regarding the future of Adam Morgan; like many, I feel he won't make it. You used Morgan as an example to have a dig at Borini and Allen.
The real AG
Waro you no you have problems when harry is backin you up
The real AG, If it's clear to you that I have players who I feel are not good enough for LFC, then why don't you show the other posters some proof to back up your assertions?
You distinctly remember me slating Allen when somebody suggested he has played through with an injury? Well if you remember it I must have posted it so show me it!
Making up lies to try and get one over on another poster is easily done lad, I could start doing that to you, in fact if I remember rightly I have called you out on telling lies about me before, do you remember? I said you had slagged Sturridge off when we signed him just to show you how easy it is to make stuff up, and you didn't like it one bit. Your a liar lad and even worse you've got no class, your clearly in the wrong and are not man enough to apologise.
As I've said, show the posts or stop making lies up!
Waro
Stop talking rubbish Waro.
I don't have to prove anything to the other posters regarding your views. The majority of them are well aware of your abusive nature and views.
I am making up lies? I called Sturridge a dud? Go back and find that post if you can you moron. I remember the Sturridge thread and you accused me of slating Sturridge; and when I posted a reply, to prove that I did no such thing, the Eds didn't post. You know why? Because of the abuse your volatile, and yes, classless replies accumulated.
I will leave it up to the others, the Reds, the Eds and even the posters of other sites, to make up their mind who is classless.
You clearly have no intention of discussing LFC related stuff or in banter and are only here for abusing people you daft piece, something that can be proven by searching your name, since you are interested in proof.
Putting down baseless challenges and abuse is your only skill, something this site could do without.
The real AG
PS: I am well man enough to stand up for what I believe in, and cannot find any reason to apologise to a cretin like you 'lad'.
Eds, please post this as he clearly has had his say and has been abusive as usual.
Im with you on this one AG.
11 Jun 2013 18:59:20
Banter archives, 21. 05. 2013
Go to it the real AG and you will find Waro's post about getting rid of Suarez!
He called me a liar even though I just have photographic memory! I would have done it my self but I can't because I am using a phone to post!
Thanks tirconnail.
The thing is, I have no wish to abuse anyone. I enjoy banter and objective discussions, but Waro has nothing positive to stay. He "challenges" people with an opinion which differs from his with abusive replies and I have been seeing this for a while.
The real AG
AG have you looked at the date Mr no name poster has told you to go look at? I urge you to do it because trust me, he's a bigger liar than you, and you talk about abusing people? I would urge you to go back and look over some of your posts today alone, there littered with abuse to other people! Your a liar and HYPOCRITE.
Waro
Haha, waro you are a sad sad bitter and liar
The the banter from 21. 04. 2013
I have indeed looked up the date he pointed out and at that date, I didn't post a comment.
This is besides the point as pretty much everyone knows you are the Hypocrite and the grand ol' abuser at Liverpool Rumours.
The real AG
21. 04. 2013 waro said that he is done defending suarez and he could not argue or be critical of FSG for getting rid!
Yet he is abusing everybody for saying the same thing, and also keeps on going about how it's because suarez is looking for trofies and that Suarez is not a DF when he clearly is!
Oh you meant Waro's posts? OK got it. have indeed checked it out and yeah you are right.
Anyways, I am getting tired of all this little argument.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 13:05:27
I should also add that BR last season blooded 7 youngster. Credit to him for having the ball ox to do so in his maiden season. The academy is beginning to produce first team players and as has been said by those who run it, over the next 2-3 years we will see the early fruits of the academy's labour. In addition we finally appear to be making progress for an expansion of Anfield. As someone else has said we already have an iconic stadium with the intimacy of old. We will not need to consult acoustic engineers to raise the atmosphere. The future is beginning to look brighter than it has done for a long time. Yes there will be hick ups along the way but let's back BR, the club and each and every player to the hilt. As for Suarez, if he does not want to be a part of it, then it's a real shame but we are far bigger than any one player. If he chooses to go, we will lose a top class forward, but so long as we get top dollar we can reinvest it. £50m spent wisely could bring in 3-4 players of the calibre of Coutinho and Sturridge. The phoenix is rising. Reality Red
What happen to sterling season?
11 Jun 2013 13:05:05
When BR joined last summer he did not have a scouting network in place and so he relied on his personal knowledge to sign Allen and Borini (and the wild card Assaidi) to boost the team in areas where we were very deficient. Allen and Borini have had difficult seasons but have the potential to make very meaningful contributions this coming season and beyond. Assaidi was gamble, but it was a modest outlay which we should recover it if he is moved on. With BR's scouting team taking shape in January he signed Coutinho and Sturridge and they have both shown that they are top class additions who made and will make very meaningful contributions. With the scouting team now fully in place we are close to signing Aspas who will be a very very good addition for £7.7m. If we can snap up Luis Alberto who we are strongly linked with for £5-8m this may also prove to be a master stroke. He has just had an outstanding season for Barcelona B and has all the attributes to make a similar impact to Coutinho. Finally we appear to be spending wisely. Yes we would all like to be able to sign your £50m Cavanis, however we don't have the money to do so and the alternative is to be smart and sign the Coutinhos of this world. If we can get the next 4 signings in a row right (something we have not done for over 20 years) we will be in a great position next season to make very good progress. I believe Aspas (and Luis Alberto if we get him) are 2 of the 4 required. Reality Red
11 Jun 2013 15:10:01
Meaningful Contribution.
explain this plss.
Is it equal to CL next seaosn?
Coutinho: Liverpool cashed on on a rafa signing. Inter where a club in turmoil. Selling their best players left, right and center. No real credit is due
Sturridge: another Ex player
11 Jun 2013 10:39:53
Just wondering Eds I noticed a while back we did have abit of interest in Emmanuel Emenike, any word on what as happened to this interest? {Ed019's Note - Not aware of any interest in Emenike}
11 Jun 2013 09:56:13
Hi Eds,
do any of you know of any other teams that were interested in Aspas?
thanks {Ed019's Note - It wouldn't make a difference - he is very close to signing for LFC}
If you don't mind Eds, Valencia, Swansea and Champions league teams in Portugal and Italy were interested in Aspas as well as late interest from Spurs.
The real AG
Obviously, I was just curious?
Spurs? How surprising.
Stop talking bs to make him sound better. There was only interest from Swansea!
The anonymous person who posted the 4th reply: There was interest in him from all that I mentioned, but you remain clueless.
Disappear Troll.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 19:19:50
Benfica and Valencia most definitely wanted him, chelsea and spurs enquired about him in January so the real AG is correct! (Use the search function and you would not come off as a clueless door knob no-name)
Malak
10 Jun 2013 16:57:23
Can you tell us Eds if Martin Montoya is someone we have actually been looking at? I saw on LFC site mention of us looking into him but had no idea. If we are do you think it a possibility?
Gareth {Ed019's Note - Doubt it}
10 Jun 2013 07:28:41
tv reporting we have renew interest in Bafetimbi Gomis do you have any updated news on this eds {Ed019's Note - No}
11 Jun 2013 11:43:14
Hi eds just with Suarez more likely to leave than stay, if we get at least 40m for him are we going to be looking at a top quality replacement? And spending most of the Suarez money on them if not more? Aspas and Alberto seem to be good quality players but only to support the likes of Suarez, if he leaves that's half of our goals of last season out of the team. Would like to see a high profile player fill his space. If he goes to Madrid why not try and tempt Higuain as he wants out. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks #Cos05 {Ed002's Note - This has been covered extensively already.}
11 Jun 2013 13:08:59
Big Andy Carroll is coming back to save us. Kopites fear not!
11 Jun 2013 13:54:31
Bayern do look like the only club that would pay the 40-50m in cash for Saurez. noting Real lost out to Cavani as they wanted to exchange players in the deal. and they also want Bale at any price.
What if for example Liverpool sell Suarez for £35m and buy Aspas as his replacement? And use the rest of the funds to buy CB's, Alberto & Thomas Ince? Would Liverpool fans be happy with that?
Disney!
If one of the CB's is top notch and a better RF than Ince, then yes.
Disney or should that be Dopey, what if's don't work mate, what if my auntie had been a man? he'd be my uncle! Aspas was NOT bought as Suarez replacement. plum!
We will see redgeorge. But something tells me deep down in the pit of your stomach that you he is Suarez' replacement and you will wait all summer for a top notch striker that will not arrive.
Disney!
11 Jun 2013 18:18:30
Disney, an honest question, what are you doing here?
Iam one of the Liverpool fans who know we won't sign a "top striker"
But I can bet my house with you that a top class AM and Winger will arrive (i. e Mkhitaryan & Tello)
Malak
11 Jun 2013 12:07:24
Ed, let's be devils advocate for a min or the three hierarchy should I say and do what Levi did with Modric and say your staying for the coming season come hell or high water. If an absolutely ridiculously high bid comes 60-70 Euros worth, your staying put. Tuff titties Luis, now get your head round that because your under contact to us, you scratch our back and we'll scratch yours (again). Capeche.
JohnBoy
Very good!
But businessmen are usually a bit smarter than you seem to think!
You could do that but if a ridiculously high bid comes then you accept it you don't reject it, not after he's made it clear he wants to move on. £50m without any overvalued players.
Newcastle's sale of Andy Carroll to us is a good example, imo. They publicly stated they didn't want to sell him even though they were always willing but they just wanted a huge fee. They held out and they got it. The club are publicly stating Suarez is not for sale but realistically of course they'd be willing to listen to large offers after he talked so much rubbish lately (on top of his past discretions).
Andy Carroll was not looking to leave so that's different but Suarez should be forced to do what suits the club first of all now, Lord knows we've looked out for him enough!
Sean Ireland
I really have to agree with this. He owes it to us as fans. Least if we don't get champions league next season then let him go by all means. Think its time for the senior players to have chat with him and hopefully he realises we really need him this season. I not saying he is the be all and end all but he is very important for us to get champions eague
Alternatively, leave a horse's head in his bed for him to find when he wakes up ;)
Suarez stated he adores the players and the fans, he would love to play for Liverpool for many years, but it is the press hounding him and his familythats swaying his mind to leave.
11 Jun 2013 12:00:35
Hi all, question particularly for Eds. I know there have been numerous opinions etc on the Suarex situation, but my question is froma different angle.
What would the reaction be to Suarez from his fellow players when he returns? LFC is his current workplace, and we all know someone in our own place who has acted like an person at some time! Next day in the office there is that awkward moment when he/she walks in!
I know in front of the press other players would all be fine, saying "the right thing", but behind the scenes what would the likes of Gerrard, Reina etc think? Do they want him out because of his behaviour?
Also, what about the thought that LFC are a family? Does the family help and support a member of have they at last run out of patience?
Thanks for all the info, much appreciated!
Cheers
Paul from Christchurch {Ed002's Note - I would not want to speculate Paul.}
Most would celebrate
11 Jun 2013 11:32:07
Message for Ashley. looks like the clocks ticking on your "Begovic in 72 Hours" prediction! Tick tock tick tock!
Andy, us Liverpool fans are generous and patient. let's give Ashley until the 2nd of July.
Roy
Player X will sign by why date/time rumours never come off! Ashley you should have known better ;)
HB
Ashley is dead right. You will see.
"Ashley is dead right. You will see. "
Really? Still ticking.
11 Jun 2013 11:17:46
I would like to say that if we sign Ivan Rakitich I will be ecstatic I have watched him for a while and he's a gem. Much rather have him then Erikson. What do you think Eds and reds.
Scouse Ben
Not for me. I don't see him as an improvement on Henderson, as he can play CM or Mickey or Eriksen, as he can play AM.
The real AG
A spurs target a few years back. Oh the irony, what do your scouts do ecactly, follow the spurs scouts lead!
Much love
11 Jun 2013 15:12:39
Much love
gyfi, dempsy, asapas,
My god. do you guys have a scouting system?
Actually, it tends to be the other way round love
11 Jun 2013 11:00:33
Message for Waro,
I'm not sure what I did to deserve such an aggressive and insulting reponse yesterday. I always keep my posts respectful and most of the time factual based. You asked for a source regarding my comment that Suarez was talking up barca soon after joining us here it is.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-striker-Luis-Suarez-I-dream-of-playing-for-Barcelona-article755833.html
I know that you'll probably defend him no matter what and claim that every foreigner dreams of barca etc, but the fact is he did not have to say it so soon after joining, and to place it in perspective, real club legends like Fowler and Rush did not talk up other teams even when transferring to them. They remained respectful of Liverpool. I support players who have Liverpools best interests at heart, if they don't then they don't get my support. Suarez clearly doesn't and never has. He plays for the team on the pitch, no denying that, but off it he clearly doesn't care. If he did he would not have been so disrespectful.
Hope that clears the incident up, I don't want to be drawn into an emotional discussion as feelings often cloud judgement.
Fowler moved down when he left mate.
Rush didn't want to go to Juventus and later he moved down as well.
Your 'factual-based' post is a bit short on this one.
This demonisation of Suarez for actually admitting he would like to play for Barca or Real is typical. I could name you dozens of top players in the Prem that have said similar.
What's the big deal if he dreams of playing for them?
Have you ever seen Luis Suarez go half-a**ed in a game for us?
Personally I wish we had 15 x players who were good enough to make that jump up.
Everyone's been citing Dortmund on here, well what's happened to their best players?
The Juicer
And, btw, the representatives of the Armenian lad we're interested are not exactly shy in spreading the love, are they?
The Juicer
My apologies Nevada if you found my response aggressive and insulting, it wasn't meant to be. The juicer has pretty much said what I would have said to you so he has covered it, but I'm a little old fashioned in that I have to see the words come direct from a persons mouth on t. v. or in person before I believe what they said or didn't say, I don't believe rumour or conjecture and definitely don't believe what's written in print because journalists are not to be trusted and never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Hope that clears it up for you.
Waro
I don't expect every player to love Liverpool but do they have to court other clubs while with us?
Nevada
Rush went to juventus not exactly moving down is it? And Fowler went to a team in the champs league. Again not down.
Want another Alonso left for Madrid, did he talk them up for two years before leaving? Did he bad mouth us? No and he had good cause to at times. He kept his dignity and our respect, I only ask other players for the same.
Nevada
Apology accepted waro, the story that I was referencing was a direct quote from Suarez so it cannot be claimed conjecture. My original point was just that him thinking of other clubs was nothing new. That's all. I'm glad we could get our opinions across with no malice and good manners, two things that are sadly maligning this forum at times.
Nevada
11 Jun 2013 10:51:10
I don't think Liverpool should be dictated to over Reina or Suarez.
Should we let Reina dictate that he'll stay for another year until Barcelona come in for him?
That'll be him focused on our efforts next season won't it?!
As for Suarez, as a Liverpool player, when asked if you'd like to play/form a partnership with Ronaldo the standard answer should be.
I'm not sure he will move to Liverpool this year!
Again media sensationalism plays a part and although I think Suarez is an amazing talent, I think we should look to cash in while we can - £50m for Suarez and £12-£15m for Reina will give us much needed funds to rebuild.
Toure could be a shrewd piece of business with Carra gone and I hope we get our business done early (which we are making the right signs).
Looking forward to next year even through all the turmoil over some of the big names leaving.
Red-Lee
Couldn't disagree more.
Suarez and Reina are two of our top players. They could walk into any team in the world.
These are the type of players we need to challenge. We need to invest in several more top players to add to what we have. Then we will be ready to compete.
Red Lee
For a minute I thought red-lee disagreed with his own post. lol
11 Jun 2013 19:23:24
Heeey Red Lee chill, take it easy on Red Lee ;))
Malak
11 Jun 2013 10:44:45
Were you this supportive of Mascherano, Owen and McManaman when they lest SR?
The real AG
(This was a response to one of my posts in support of Suarez by everyone who has suddenly turned on him for the simple reason that he might leave despite everything else).
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So The real AG, is this the type of thing all Liverpool fans should resort to now, when players just decide?
What? We just turn against them and stick out noses up at them?
Regardless of players' reasons for wanting to leave, no current or former Liverpool player deserves this kind of treatment!
Players (Top players) leave their clubs all the time, that is the nature of football, and a lot of you need to realize it and accept it.
We all know that Suarez needs to grow up a little, but in all seriousness, so do a lot of our fans!
SR (StrabaneRed)
I completely agree with the fans reaction regarding players who leave, in that it is mostly over reaction.
But, in most cases, the players cause this reaction themselves, with the way they go about wanting a transfer out of LFC. Torres, Mascherano, Owen, McManaman and now Suarez are examples.
Then there are others, like Alonso, Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy and Hyppia, who left the dignified way. They gave a clear reason, didn't court other teams and hence are still respected in the Liverpool family.
You say they don't deserve this kind of treatment? Why not? When they show no regard or respect for LFC, the supporters all around the World and their fellow professionals, why cannot we not express our emotions?
And in any case, Suarez deserves not get any respect from me.
The real AG
So Suarez "wanting" out of Liverpool is disrespectful to the club?
That's irrational; players wish to move clubs all the time in the football world; They want a different challenge, change of weather or change of scenery etc etc. When a player leaves a club it's NEVER disrespectful to the club (Unless of course the player is bad mouthing the club at every opportunity while still there or after)
As far as I know those players you mentioned never did that or disrespected managers.
So why hate?
Maybe you think it's disrespectful to talk about the possibility of a move to another club?
Well, that's also irrational as well.
Players are often asked how they'd feel about joining another club by the media.
Players, generally, answer (honestly) so as not to disrespect the club being asked about.
So a player saying "I think it'd be great to play alongside Messi, he's a fantastic player - or - Bayern are a tremendous team to watch, they play good football, it would be hard to turn that down"; is not disrespectful to our club. Because all it is is speculation and opinion.
SR (StrabaneRed)
Completely agree with The real AG.
SR, your comment of 'no player deserves this kind of treatment!' is a double edged sword. No player should have to deal with racial slurs, or being bitten. The treatment Suarez has been given comes in 2 significant parts. The first part is the fact he fully deserves to be heavily criticized with his frankly ridiculous behaviour, and the second part is the media enjoy having 'the bad one' to whip up a media frenzy. Suarez has given them opportunities on a plate. Headlines sell, and he's dragged Liverpool through the headlines on numerous occasions for all the wrong reasons.
As Ed002 has said, he's courted other clubs, he was a significant factor in one of the greatest legends of LFC losing his job (whether that was a good thing or a bad thing is here nor there) and he's damaged Liverpool's reputation. I mean seriously, the guy has been banned for nearly half a season, and in the grand scheme of things hasn't been with the club that long! I cannot stress enough that Suarez is one of the most entertaining and gifted players I've seen for some years, but your point of fans 'needing to grow up' is out of order mate. The fans want players who aren't going to drag the name through the mud, and players who stand by the team in times of hardship (i. e. NOW) instead of using the media as a scapegoat.
Some of us aren't annoyed simply that Suarez is leaving, we're annoyed because of the way he has orchestrated it. Maybe if you read the posts a little closer you'd realise that.
JFT 96
JP
And how exactly you know, what exactly the player said, and what was added/twisted by the media?
I don't trust most of the media. I trust the facts they state, like official transfers and amounts after that happened. But not rumours nor opinions they project.
This is it. Its not that a player leaves but how they leave. Suarez could have just said that it would be better to play else where, wipe the slate clean and start a fresh. Less is more Luis. Anyway, I wil be happy enough if we get good money for him and spent wisely Brendan!
The Irish Rover
I am fully aware that players are transient employs of the club.
You seem to 'respect' the players more than what they deserve based on circumstances.
How do you think LFC would be feeling internally with all the antics Suarez pulls? Certainly the club or any club for that matter would not be happy about one of their employees courting other clubs at every possible opportunity; and in essence is disrespectful.
Players are often asked about other clubs and they answer honestly? Why answer at all when they are contracted to a club? Players answer honestly? That's just a right laugh.
It is definitely not opinion and speculation, it is courting another club publicly, something which Suarez has done over and over again, and as I said above, most clubs would find that disrespectful, and the fans who put these players on a pedestal, even more disrespectful.
Your post is hypocritical. You have a go at fans for not showing 'respect' towards Suarez, but is happy that this player continues to disrespect its fans, his fellow professionals and of course LFC.
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 10:27:25
Can all the Allen bashers please come forward and state why he is such a poor player or not top 4 quality? He was our best player at the start of the season and it was clear that his form dropped off when over played and he had a shoulder injury? How can you expect him to be at his best?!
London red
It will tough for him to get a permanent spot in the team, our form improved massively when he was out of the team and Lucas was in with Gerrard and Coutinho playing.
Squad player at best who will cover Gerrard or Lucas better than say Charlie Adam or Spearing have in past seasons.
11 Jun 2013 12:06:47
Mate people have short memories! They only remeber the last few games. Then usually forget all the good and focus on the bad which was caused due to injury! Anyways I hope he comes back next season to shut up the doubters just like Lucas, Coutinho, Henderson, Sturridge, even downing did.
Malak
11 Jun 2013 12:14:10
When you're right no one remebers, when you're wrong nobody forgets.
Malak
If Lucas wasn't injured for the first half of the season we would have seen the best of Allen. He was playing as a defensive midfielder when he is not that type of player.
Malak does the same not apply. For Skrtel? People forget all the good and focus on the bad. One minute he was our player of the season next he has a bad couple of games and he is useless.
Red Lee
He needs to work on his upper body strength because he was easily pushed off the ball last season and also he needs to improve his decision making, be a bit braver and not look for a simple sideways or backward pass, take a few more chances in his play. He's not a bad player just not a £15MILLION player, that's not his fault it was the managers decision to sanction that kind of money when we don't/didn't have much to spend, also it wasn't his fault that the manager stupidly made comparisons with xavi, which in turn raised fans expectations of him.
Sort those issues out and bring him back in slowly and he may improve and turn out a decent player, I just hope he doesn't have anymore kids though because that will set him right back!
Waro
I'm on the 'give him time' side of the debate. He's just a kid and has moved to a new, big club. He's been carrying a knock. Tried to play thru it when he needed an op. good, solid lad. No fuss. If BR thinks he's going to be the next big thing then that's good enough for me.
I don't think he's a bad player but not a player that actually improves the team. And saying he was our best player when the team was in horrible form isn't exactly a compliment. How many points did LFC get with Allen as our best player? the answer, not enough.
I also don't see a place for him in the midfield 3. He doesn't have the attacking ability or final ball that coutinho has (so can't play as the CAM obviously). He doesn't have the defensive power, marking, or tackling ability to be the rock at CDM that's needed (I also believe a replacement for Lucas is needed next year unless he can find his 2010 form again). And finally Allen does not read the game and dictate play as well as Gerrard or press and harass the opponent as well as Henderson (whose passing is steadily improving). Allen can keep possesion (lots of side/back passes) and can make the occasional tackle but does not provide assists, goals, or adequate protection for the back line. He is our 4th best CM (not counting the CAM's) and doesn't improve the team when he's on the pitch. Squad player and nothing more.
London Red I disagree that he was our best player at the start of the season. I think the whole squad were awful, hence the poor rrsults snd performances.
The Irish Rover
11 Jun 2013 15:16:17
Us Army Red.
Excellent reply. Top draw, Joe allen had one goal whole seaosn.
But that's fine, Liverpool fc sign players and then loan them to our first team gain experience, take time, settle well, and then move to another club.
If countinho would have been a failure. BR would have been given 0 million for any recruitment.
I personally will not judge allen till next season, but his price tag and loss of form is mainly what caused other lfc fans to judge him so quickly.
11 Jun 2013 19:33:42
Red Lee mate, I hope you read this.
Skrtel just doesn't fit the way we play and also is supposed to be one of the best players at the club yet he was by the far the worst this season and was rightfully dropped for a much better carragher! The difference is simple, skrtel is 28. let's say he has a similar bad season next season, we would loose most of his resale value. Now we can get 10-12 m for him that will help us so much in the reshaping, same goes for shelvy, the 6-7 m we would get would help alot! Both was rarely used and when played looked really bad even when they got prolonged run in the team. Neither did any of them have a an injury which affected their form! They simply look out of sorts because they doesn't fit the way we are trying to play.
Malak
11 Jun 2013 10:17:57
Sell Shelvey Suarez and Skrtel.
Buy Muriel, Papa, Tello and Diame on top of the 3 that already look to be incoming.
and I would Be a happy little chap.
YNWA
In Brendan I trust.
11 Jun 2013 09:44:20
is there any chance of suarez staying?
Yer there's a chance, no chance.
. But I still hope he stays
11 Jun 2013 09:36:25
Not a rumour but a question
Do you think Coates can step up and play a more prominent role? If not we should sell. I think he should be given a chance
Also I think spearing can do a job against lower teams, I think he sprays the ball around quite well
11 Jun 2013 09:04:15
I know it probably sounds far fetched but if Liverpool sell luis suarez is there any chance that we could move for lewandowski as I understand he will cost 25 million and was on Liverpool's radar in 2011.
Is this RADAR based in Melwood? If so, does it send out high frequency signals that only bounce back of Lewandowski?
The real AG
11 Jun 2013 07:41:57
Hey Ed, rumours say that toby alderweireld is off to AS Roma or at least there is interest from them.
How bad is this for us? {Ed019's Note - It depends if we really were interested in him}
10 Jun 2013 06:43:31
morning ed, s
why are we not looking at english players. I've not seen one rumour of an english player being touted with lfc. does the influx of foreign players concern you any way.
what worrys me is the english game is dieing of death. {Ed019's Note - Last year you were all crying out for foreigners}
Liverpool have a decent smattering of English players at the moment. Henderson, Downing, Sterling, Wisdom, Kelly, Robinson, Flanagan, Coady, etc.
The standard of British players being allowed to develop throughout the game is poor. This is due to very poor coaching and the foreign invasion. Any half-decent English talent will be over-priced.
ANFIELDPETE
Dus you see England U21 against Norway U21? Were you impressed?
Red
Because there to expensive and crap!
11 Jun 2013 12:31:34
Of the 25 man squad 8 has to be homegrown.
We have Johnson, Kelly, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Downing, Borini and Sturridge. That's 8.
Then we have Sterling, Wisdom, Suso, Ibe, Coady, Mclaughlin, Robinson, Ward, Dunn, Llyod Jones, and Yesil who will be HG when he spends a couple of more seasons here but those are U21 so there is no need to register them as part of the 25 man squad. We have enough homegrown players or so for the next decade!
Our U18 has the likes of Rossiter, Ojo and Sinclair.
And we are bringing in 3-4 16-17 year olds who after 3 seasons in the academy will be homegrown :) Bring in quality from anywhere I say since any player you're going to buy from the PL will be overhyped and at double or tripple the real value of the player! Carroll and Downing combined on their best days are worth £ 18-20 million, we paid £ 55 million, a bit more actually, so buying English is way overrated and clearly not the way to go! For now at least.
Malak
Eds, Borini can't actually count as a homegrown player for LFC can he? He's a full international that was bought from a Serie A club just last year. With that in mind who does qualify as home grown at this time? thanks {Ed002's Note - Borini is homegrown.}
Us red army, borini is home grown, as he was trained in the same nation as the club with chelsea.
11 Jun 2013 08:52:49
Suarez said: "The incident with Ivanovic - I know I made a mistake, it was me, my fault, and he did not do anything to me.
"I was angry because I had given away a penalty for hand ball. I was the cause of the penalty against my team - I saw red and completely lost it. I can't really explain it and I am so sorry. "
COmmon guys let's forgive him. Things have settled out. but the quality is still there. {Ed001's Note - all very well saying forgive him, but this is not the first time, or the second time, or even the 3rd time he has done something this idiotic. He is not learning his lesson, that is not good enough, he needs to grow up.}
He can go join that spoilt brat at Madrid! Another striker who could have been a legend and threw it away
{Ed001's Note - all very well saying forgive him, but this is not the first time, or the second time, or even the 3rd time he has done something this personic. }
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And it won't be the last time either.
Roy {Ed001's Note - exactly mate, this is what he is, it is simply not what we need.}
I wonder is that Saurez's way of saying sorry just in case Real and Munich don't actually come to an agreement to buy him, and he is stuck with us till January
Dublad
Whether we forgive him or not makes no difference. I am astounded the majority on here cannot even comprehend this: HE WANTS TO LEAVE!
The real AG
Also in the same interview he is relating to playing in madrid!!
5 gold stars
Ok. enough is enough. it's time to sh** or get of the toilet. stay or go, commit or leave, one way or another let's sort this mess out & move on!
I'd take signing troublesome world-class talent, that give 100% for 2 or 3 seasons, and end up being worth twice the purchase fee, anytime Ed001!
The Juicer {Ed001's Note - I would rather just get decent players who don't get a club legend into difficult situation and lead to us moving up the table rather than down. But you obviously know best. After all it is not like our great teams won anything without those kind of tools in it is it?}
I wonder is that Saurez's way of saying sorry just in case Real and Munich don't actually come to an agreement to buy him, and he is stuck with us till January
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No I think he is genuinely sorry about what he did/or done (all of it). he would know/told it reflects badly on him.
The problem with him he can't control himself, he will do it again and again. and probably say sorry again and again. anyone that have young kids will know what I mean. lucky for me my kids grown out of that phase, Suarez's parents still waiting.
If and when he leaves I will miss his football genius, but as for the person that is Suarez, its better for our club if he moved on.
Roy
Haha, are you serious Ed001?
You obviously know the gossip about why certain players were moved on - Beardsley, Clem, Lawrenson?
Jimmy Case another. Can you imagine if Suarez were to break someone's jaw in a game?
Or go missing on international duty and go running back home because he never got picked?
Cmon.
The Juicer
Why was Beardsley moved on?
11 Jun 2013 08:15:49
Eds you seem very moody recently. What are your ambitions for next season. Sell suarez and take a risk on two new players? {Ed001's Note - what is that to do with ambitions?}
11 Jun 2013 08:10:28
Are we becoming a side just like Swansea with BR's management with the same type of players and value?
It seems that the club have a policy now of not wanting to spend much above £10m on players due to it not working in the past, which is fine considering we don't have much money. I like the look of the players coming in and I'm sure they will improve us.
However are we going to become a carbon copy of Swansea with lots of good players, yet none world class who could make a difference in getting into the top 4. As much as I would like to be optimistic about us getting into Europe is our squad any better with the signings we make than other side around us?
Many are saying let Suarez go but he is a major player for us, if/when he goes he won't be replaced, we will just have to hope that the scouts can find another gem, but at the level of money we have I doubt we will.
11 Jun 2013 10:32:48
Not much more than £10m? person. Carroll, Downing, Allen, Henderson, Borini, Suarez, Sturridge have all cost over 10m sines FSG with 4 of those by BR. Then when you look at below 10m you see Coutinho (bargain) Enrique (solid) And the likes of Shelvey, Coates, Assaidi, Dan Wilson, all those players were worth a punt due to potential and not one was signed by BR.
BR spots a player that will fit not his system of play and goes for him regardless of market value. I'd much prefer this to simply signing a big name with an inadequate market value. Look at Balotelli, he's a terrible forward with a wonder goal every couple of games and yet he's worth 25m then you have Mario Gomes who is a renowned finisher and he's going for under the 10m you quote, who's the better player?
The value of a player does not always represent his talent, and I'm glad we have a manager who knows the difference.
Anfield Andy
Ye, because Liverpool have never been verry good at replacing world class players in the past! He will be replaced
Balotelli isn't bad at all and he's young, that's why he is valued a lot.
11 Jun 2013 12:45:08
Well we found Coutinho and Sturridge for around half what we are going to sell Suarez for and combined Coutinho and Sturridge bring much much more to the team than Suarez!
Suarez has cast a spell on Liverpool fans who can't understand though he is world class in many attributes he still lacks the 2 most important, Pace and being clinical!
Sturridge since ariving has been more clinical than Suarez infront of goal and that's a fact, check the stats before discussing it because there is no point arguing with facts!
I will be really sad when he goes but I know we will improve as a team! We can't build our team around 1 player and I have always thought that's wrong.
Malak
11 Jun 2013 07:54:59
If Liverpool sign Luis Alberto, Iago Aspas and Ilori for less than what Downing ill be made up mainly because I take loads of stick from other fans about us buying players that end up been overrated and expensive!
Coutinho and Sturridge seem to be shrewd purchases so it seems from the outside we seem to have our head screwed back on!
11 Jun 2013 07:44:51
I was just thinking about the just concluded season, and I realized that the second and third position teams (Man City and Chelsea) did not have an individual who scored 30 goals. They had other ways they compensated for that, and they got into the champions league positions. Maybe Liverpool could learn from this. Since Suarez is now dreaming of playing with Ronaldo, shouldn't Liverpool just sell him and strengthen all around?
11 Jun 2013 12:33:59
No, bad Noski! Sensible, logical posts are not allowed! Without Suarez we will go into liquidation!
In all seriousness, good post :)
YNWAdam
11 Jun 2013 02:30:32
Hi Eds, just few questions here and hope you could advise. is our interest towards Papadopoulos dropped? as his news is no more flying around
If yes, is Alderweireld our second choice or anyone else would be considered?
Lastly, we have a solid interest on Tiago Ilori, he should be a CB and how would Rodgers rank him? As a substitute of Agger & Papadopoulos/Alderweireld and compete with Kolo Toure for the 3rd CB?
Thanks Eds, Zann {Ed002's Note - The situation is as explained already.}
11 Jun 2013 00:25:58
ed, what are the chances of a move for hulk if suarez leaves? he is unsettled in russia and wanted to leave in january but was not able to do so because of fifa rules about playing for more than 2 clubs in one year. I mean it would make sense to get him and we would have the money. {Ed002's Note - Can't see it.}
11 Jun 2013 00:23:49
LUIS SUAREZ
I seriously hate this guy, he has turned out to be a proper latest comments are a joke lfc need to sell him asap really as a fan loved him brilliant footballer but he ain't for lfc
Hopefully we will get rid soon and move on to better things
Really optimistic we have brilliant young players
Ibe
sterling
Suso
Wisdom
We have
kelly
Coutinho
Sturridge
Need a few signings but I think if we buy the right players like we did with coutinho and sturridge we won't be far off TITLE lol joke
We won't be far off the top 4
Basy
Hate is a horrible word, yet to direct it at the clubs top goal-scorer is frankly, disgusting.
DaveyBootle
Davey should we all wrap our arms round him and say thanks for takin the piss out this club again?
Honestly think a few people need to stop supporting LFC.
The amount of vitriol players receive when they consider leaving is outrageous.
Regardless of Suarez' attitude and behaviour, he's still our player!
We supported him through everything and he repaid us with glorious performances on the pitch and we love (d) him for it, now he might leave he's a banker?
SR (StrabaneRed)
11 Jun 2013 10:42:59
I don't see how him being the clubs top goalscorer is at all relevant? Would it be okay to hate him if he hadn't scored this season? At the end of the day he has done far more harm to my beloved club than good, and no I'm not a Norwich fan.
Strong words there Basy.
The real AG
I don't see we have any choice but to sell and sell quickly if he is quoted correctly as saying I would like to play with Ronaldo at Real. I have supported and played for the mighty reds for 45 years and will always be a loyal fan. I also above all else want to see a bit of that loyalty from our players. Regardless of all the bad press and the mistakes Suarez has made the fans and the club have stayed well and truly behind him. He is not capable it seems of showing us the same commitment and respect. So I say sell and invest the 50 mill on quality replacements. He is not bigger than our great club and will soon find out that life after LFC is not always a walk in the park.
ROYZERED
11 jun 2013 13:01:47
yes hate is strong but he's embarassin our great football club he has no respect for the club who supported him and helped him lfc fought for him!
top scorer yes
best player yes
does he care about lfc no
he bit ivnovic to get out of lfc then ran back and blamed media and said he wants out
hold on he made a racist comnent
lfc fogave him
he didn't shake hands with evra and made us look bad lfc fogave him
he bit ivanovic got banned lfc forgave him
hes gone off given loads of interviews sayin he wants to leave and play for different clubs
bottom line he's spat in the faces of all those who supported him and he's made lfc and fans look silly so yes i hate him
my opinion
basy
Yes hate is strong but he's embarassin our great football club he has no respect for the club who supported him and helped him lfc Fought for him!
Top scorer yes
Best player yes
Does he care about lfc NO
HE BIT IVNOVIC TO GET OUT OF LFC THEN RAN BACK AND BLAMED MEDIA AND SAID HE WANTS OUT
HOLD ON HE MADE A RACIST COMNENT
LFC FOGAVE HIM
HE didn't SHAKE HANDS WITH EVRA AND MADE US LOOK BAD LFC FOGAVE HIM
HE BIT IVANOVIC GOT BANNED LFC FORGAVE HIM
HES GONE OFF GIVEN LOADS OF INTERVIEWS SAYIN HE WANTS TO LEAVE AND PLAY FOR DIFFERENT CLUBS
BOTTOM LINE he's SPAT IN THE FACES OF ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED HIM AND he's MADE LFC AND FANS LOOK SILLY SO YES I HATE HIM
MY OPINION
Basy
1)Nobody knows what went on between him and Evra, he was found guilty in a kangaroo court by an independent panel and was charged with ZERO evidence.
2)Would you shake hands with the person who (to Suarez) had wrongly accused him of racism? Oh and on that subject, that maggot Evra shook everyone's hand in the normal fashion, when Suarez came along the line he barely lifted his hand from his side, in other words tried to belittle Suarez and make sure he extended his hand to him, I cheered Suarezs response at the time like a goal.
3) The biting, he was an person and deserved every criticism that came his way. NO EXCUSES.
You lad have had your head filled with bile from the media, and you don't have the intelligence to realise it.
As I've said on here before I hope he stays and I will back 200%, if he goes to a better team then he goes with my best wishes to him for the sheer magnitude of effort he has put in to playing for Liverpool.
Waro
10 Jun 2013 21:15:32
Hey Eds, watching spains u21s, Illarramendi was fantastic for them. have we shown interest in him?
I agree mate, he kinda reminds me off a young Alonso the way he picks the ball up from the defence and dictates the play. And the way he can pass with left foot and right foot, I've been really impressed by him!
St Helens Red
10 Jun 2013 16:51:38
Ed002, to many posters have agreed with me today and in the main have been pleasant, this is an alien scenario to me so I need to start an argument with yourself to get everyone back offside, apologies in advance but they all love you so your the natural target for me to antagonise and get a good argument going! I will return in due course to wind you up, I just need a believable argument. I SHALL RETURN!
Waro
Audleys return to the ring will be more exciting.
11 Jun 2013 02:03:34
Personally I think the Borini bashing has come a little early. We've been here before with Lucas for example. His workrate is top drawer, he gave us little glimpses of what he is capable of. His positioning is brilliant. Like when he got behind sturridge for his little flick on and ends up 1on1 with the keeper in a reasonably crowded box just for his finish to show his lack of confidence. Also his shot from the edge of the area that hit the post was a peach.
Kuyt type player anyone? Haha
Damn straight, the lad will come good, in time. He was always going to struggle in his first season, most players coming from Italian football do. But his injuries were unprecedented and very unfortunate, I rate the lad very highly and think his attitude is exemplary.
BCDI (Borini Can Do It).
I would love Borini to come good. We will have to wait and see but do far in the few games he has had I don't see much in terms of pace and technical ability that Sturridge and Coutinio have shown.
I cannot see how he will get into our side (even without Suarez). The same goes for Allen. They will be squad players.
Also with BR's style of play I just don't get where he fits in?
He's only 20 or 21. He's been at 4 different clubs and is only a year out of the academy. He might take a bit longer to settle but I think he'll come good.
He's not doing particularly well for Italy either though!
11 Jun 2013 09:39:36
Similar to adam morgan bcdi. And a lot on here have written that kid off, on what premis I don't know, because he's had less game time than allen and borini.
Waro
May come good? But not good enough for Liverpool. Too light weight for the premeir. Send hom out on loan for a season see if that will help, but I personally doubt it
Just like you wrote of Allen and Borini Waro?
The real AG
This window is primarily about creating depth in the squad and competition for places if allen and borini aren't on the sheet opening day so what its a long season. support the team lads. ffs I mean sometimes on here it sounds like other teams fans talking about our lads borini will score if played he has got few goals already relax
11 Jun 2013 00:00:52
Hello, Ed!, What are the chance we can buy marcos Rojo at Sporting. Him playd very good against Colombia. Are Liverpool squating the nation team of argentina after some players? They played very good against Colombia. And what a bauth Federico Fernandez is him a possibol replacement for Skrtel? {Ed030's Note - I doubt it. }
Rojo is good but Federico Fernandez is crap! And are you argentinean by any chance? :P
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