Liverpool Banter Archive July 11 2014

11 Jul 2014 22:44:26
Is t just me but Sakho makes me very nervous. I watched him play for France and still looked clumsy and error prone. Then he was dropped.

Prefer Dan or Martin and would get rid of Sakho but this will not happen till next season.

I agree, but he is only 24. A good run of games should boost his confidence and i'm sure we will see the best of him next season.

Also, the good thing about bringing in Lovren is that he can play in both centre back positions. So, if Sakho doesn't perform Skrtel will come in and Lovren will shift to the left side.

I would hope we can bring in Rojo as well. He can play left back and Left centre back and will provide extra competition for Sakho.

Red Rum

11 Jul 2014 23:40:45
Hilaroius ignorance. He wad not dropped at all, and didn't put a single foot wrong in the tournument. at 23 I truely believe Sakho will be one of the best Centre halfs in the world in a couple of seasons.

He wasn't dropped, he was injured.

You haven't got a clue mate! Sakho will be the best centre back we have had since Hyypia!

You are entitled to your opinion. However, there are people who will tell you that Dan and Martin make them just as nervous.
But, Sakho was NOT dropped. He was injured and Deschamps hoped for him to be ready for the Germany game (which he played in).

Finally lads I taught it was just me he is not the answer to our problems for sure

He always looks clumsy but his quite good actually.

{Ed008's Note - Everyone's allowed to voice their opinion, I believe Sakho will become a very good defender maybe even World Class if he works on a few parts of his game he's still young give him time..

You are completly right paulmondo

He's committed, physically strong, quick, a good defender and just needs to work on his game. Be patient with the guy.

11 Jul 2014 21:02:24
On a completely different note would you leave lalanna out of our first game of the season? I just don't think playing him would be the best option I mean he absolutely loves Southampton and still don't think he'd be happy in his first game if he helped tear apart Southampton (hoping we do obviously).

I can't remember the name of the guy that went from city to United or the other way and scored went off crying? Not saying this would happen but Southampton has been his life and just think we should give him any other game as his first!

Is this for real? He's a professional footballer.

In that case it could potentially mean leaving out Lambert & Lovren (if we sign him) too although I understand why Lallana would probably be the most affected with Lambert not likely to be starting anyway.

Depending on who else we sign, i'd probably start him on the bench and let him on in the second half that way he won't have to walk down the tunnel next to his old team mates. Having said that, he's a top professional and this is just a part of the game which I think he would most likely deal with fine in the circumstances.

I'd leave him out because we have better options

Think players should be picked on merit, their form and what is best tactically against the upcoming opposition.

Lallana is a pro. We've had many players play against teams they support and play well, score winning goals.

Get your concern, but no need to worry

Didnt Dennis law relegate man united with a little back heel?

No we don't ken, get a grip, we didn't spend £ 27 million on one of the nomenees of the pfa to take his career backwards. he will be brilliant for us and certainly signed as a definite starter! and is nothing like coutinho because his best position for the Saints was a free role starting down the right or left hand side.

I'm not saying I would do it or it would happen but he is a human being as well as a pro. if Southampton go out their with a poor side from all the sales and we trounce them 5 zip as much of a pro as he is it would be devastating for him to play such a part in his club's downfall.

I mean people are now tipping them for relegation! It's sad to watch from the outside but if we get loveren we will have benefited hugely

Hey "Lambertiho" it's called an opinion and I'm perfectly entitled to it so less of the aggression, son.
In my opinion we have got better options than Lallana for the first team.
Did spending £35m on Andy Carroll guarantee him a first team place?
Transfer fee does not give any guarantees about selection. He may have impressed some people who pick dream teams at Southampton last season but that doesn't mean anything about next season in a completely different team.
He's too slow on the football pitch, physically and mentally. He'd flourish in Italy, but in England you don't get the same time on the ball.
It's my opinion, same as you have an opinion, so build a bridge and get over it.

{Ed001's Note - he has done alright the last few seasons, in lower leagues where you get less time on the ball he stood out, steps up to the Prem and stood out. Your point is ludicrous, it just suggests you have never watched him play, he is far from slow mentally on the pitch. You don't get the time and space in the Championship or League One to be slow mentally. That is why Teixeira struggled so badly down there, he wanted time on the ball. He was fine in the Prem, because he got plenty of that.}

Nonsense, go watch a full match of Southampton, I built thar bridge now you are welcome to use it. Just stop wrting off players before they kicked a ball, its pathetic and clueless. Andy Carroll? Now I won't even bother discussing f.all with you. What an absolutley unrelated bollox.

I'm not a Southampton season ticket holder so I wouldn't say I've seen a lot of his play in the premier league.
I have watched him live twice when Saints were in the championship and 3 times since they were a premiership side.
I think it's only when watching a player live you can really appreciate their all round performance. TV just distorts your view as you don't see movement or work off the ball as much. These are 2 qualities you can only really judge live and they reflect speed of movement and speed of thought.

So to my knowledge I've watched him 5 times live. Not hugely representative but enough, I feel, to form an opinion.

Others who have been to more Southampton games, I bow to your superior knowledge. Unfortunately, TV watchers have a distorted picture.

11 Jul 2014 22:00:51
Andre Wisdom will be sold - Ipswich and Derby seem favourites, a little gutted, thought this guy had a lot of potential.

People need to stop barking for a "suarez replacement" - u cannot replace a player like Suarez. Its time to build and strengthen from the back forward. We have no problems scoring goals nor lack creativity.

A little birdy tells me that we shall be purchasing a player in the region of 50m - Eds can you shed any light on any major targets as opposed to the fringe players we are continuously linked with?

11 Jul 2014 21:55:16
Eds any chance of us signing the equadorian Christian Suarez, only hope of not having to buy a new top lol

11 Jul 2014 22:42:11
Matias suarez also

That was a rather silly purchase, wasn't it?

11 Jul 2014 21:33:29
If Liverpool are looking for a Suarez replacement, would it likely be a player with champions league experience (Eg huntelaar) or someone like Suarez was before, relatively unknown but with potential to develop (world cup aside). And if so would that player be someone like markovic. I understand that this question is a bit opinionated, in terms of how 'well known' Suarez was at Ajax, but I mean a player who is not playing in a top European side, such as Barcelona. Thanks

11 Jul 2014 20:27:40
Hi eds have Liverpool approached illegally for Bony by talking to his representatives? I thought any club can speak to any reps any time? As long as it's not the player himself?

{Ed002's Note - A club can talk to his representatives of a player.}

Its a stupid article. The owner of Swansea said something along the lines of "I don't think Liverpool would do that" and the tabloids turned it into "Liverpool should be ashamed".

11 Jul 2014 20:32:34
Does anyone else feel that there are several players in the first team that need upgrading for this upcoming season?

For me, they are:

Glen Johnson - We have all seen his lack of effort over the past couple of seasons. His positioning and decision making have been awful.

Martin Skrtel - He is a warrior who gives everything, but he can switch off and become careless. He would be a good option to have on the bench.

Simon Mignolet - I always feel nervous with him in goal, especially from set pieces. He doesn't command his area like a keeper should and his distribution is poor. He would be a good backup keeper, but as far as I am aware he is on pretty high wages.

My choice of replacements would be: Serge Aurier, Dejan Lovren and Asmir Begovic.

Red Rum

11 Jul 2014 20:56:57
Johnson is being replaced by Flanagan, who has had a great season on his weaker side and is developing game by game. Mingolet had his first season with an inconsistent and shakey defense, and he is young. I back him to improve and become a great keeper for us, he has everything he needs just needs to bring it together (go back and watch De Gea's first season with United for a good example). Skrtel is a worry but I assume if we get Lovren he will start over Skrtel, so evidently it's an area being looked at

Not sure changing 4 out of 5 players in our back line is the best recipe to sort things out. We've gone through the growing pains with Migs & Sakho and still finished 2nd. They'll both be better for the experience this season.

I know what you mean there red rum but I think we initially wanted begovic but we didn't want to cough up the money.what about Mexicos keeper?He s on a free ain't he?or has he signed for someone.I think we will have options at right back this season, its a proper left back we need.Defo need a centre back tho, we will see I suppose

Don't get that post Red, several players need upgrading but you only mention three?
So in your opinion only two to three players really need upgrading.
Bit harsh on Migs seeing he had a seriously poor defence in front of him, even Neuer would have been caught out behind those boys during the season.

Id really like to see mclaughlin be given a chance for rb

12 Jul 2014 11:07:19
Mignolet only needs to strengthen his distribution and aerial command and he will be an all round strong keeper. He has some of the best coaches in the world to help him develop at Liverpool and spends his International time training alongside Courtois who is a brilliant all round keeper. Mignolet will get there.
Flanagan will take over Right Back this season, or continue on the left if we don't manage to sign a new Left Back, either way we can all see that he will end up being our first choice RB. I agree Johnson should be moved on but other areas are more important and although he needs a kick up the backside he's still a fairly solid option, as opposed to others in the past (Josemi. ). Its been turbulent there since Finnan left.
In the middld I hope we play Lovren and Sakho. Two big strong dominant fellas. Sakho is a bit like Luiz in his lack of discipline or composure and charges out and goes to ground too easily, but similar to Mignolet in that he's young and can be taught these things. He was certainly much more disciplined in the French back line. The two of them are confident and assured on the ball so it works well with our current playing style.
We will sell Dagger. So we will the Skrtel on the bench who is a brilliant back up with experience of the league and our style. Kelly can hopefully rediscover his young promise from his deputising role with Illori and Ryan Mc also breaking in and covering CB RB. Could definately do with a LB although Sakho and Can have both played there.

11 Jul 2014 20:26:55
For anyone worrying about Suarez leaving, by using Bale's sale as a comparison to why we won't do well next year, I have a few statistics to calm you down. There is no question that Tottenham missed Bale's goals, but I'll argue that Suarez's goals won't be missed to such an extent at Liverpool.

Bale's goals 2012/13: 21
Spur's goals 2012/13: 66
Spurs without Bale 12/13: 45

Suarez's goals 2013/14: 31
LFC goals 2013/14: 101
LFC without Suarez 13/14: 70

These statistics show that Liverpool score enough goals to compete for a top 4 space without Suarez, while Tottenham were only scoring enough goals for a mid table position. Obviously statisitcs aren't always reliable, especially since it doesn't take into consideration assists or appearances.

However, this does show that scoring goals won't be too much of an issue for Liverpool without Suarez, as we still have players such as Sterling and Sturridge who have become regular goal scorers. The defence is more of a concern for me, so buying defenders should be more of a priority than "replacing Suarez".

You need to factor in assists and penalties won as well then that will look quite different mate

11 Jul 2014 20:59:53
The reality is that Spurs failed to spend their money wisely. That is why they failed. They did not reinforce the defense and they bought a lot of high level functional players, but very few with flair (and one of the two flair players they did buy was injured all year). If we spend the money across the whole squad and wise proper, careful planning, then we'll do very very well next season. Personally, I trust BR to do that. Fair play if anyone doesn't, guess only time will tell

@lfcsam91 You're not wrong but then figure that we'd have stats for a 10-man Liverpool team. Assume that whoever would "replace" Suarez would at least equal in goals what Suarez would have gotten through assists and pen's won etc and the figures are still good reading for any Liverpool fan.

Also consider that Suarez gave the ball away 61 times last season, and figure how many less we would have conceded without him in the team. These things even out!

11 Jul 2014 19:39:58
Evening Ed's, I'm a first time poster so please be gentle!

I am somewhat confused by our apparent lack of interest now in Moreno; I thought a deal was close a few weeks back (just a difference in how both parties wanted the payments set up etc.) Now, with LS's sale, we should have plenty of cash to pay what they want up front, yet we appear to be looking elsewhere. why, after being so keen?

The other names I've seen linked with us for LB don't really fill me with confidence, but I have heard great things about Moreno.

Great job you're doing guys, thank you!

{Ed001's Note - we didn't get paid the money in cash up front.}

Thanks Ed, I wasn't aware of that! So we're in a completely different boat to the one in which Tottenham found themselves last year! Shame, I'd have loved for us to have got him, played Flanagan at RB and shipped Bad-johnson out!

11 Jul 2014 20:08:38
However we try to dress it up, we've just lost, bar Messi, probably the best player in the world, IMO. Sad, sad day.

Players like him come along very rarely. Good look Luis, always gave your all on the pitch, with an unbelievable will to win, Barcelona are lucky to have you.

Don't worry I will hold a candle vigil for you in these dark times.

Better than C. Ronaldo?
Better than James Rodriguez?

Great player, but you're overhyping him.

12 Jul 2014 06:12:58
Yes saurez is up there with Ronaldo and before the world cup I doubt you would have mentioned rodriguez

12 Jul 2014 07:30:58
Suarez is better than James Rodriguez. You are undermining him Ken.

11 Jul 2014 19:56:42
Transfers so far.

Out:
Jakub Skolik - Yeovil £0
Luis Suarez - Barcelona £64.3m
Luis Alberto - Malaga (loan)
Yalany Baio (released)
Villyan Bijev (released)
Yusuf Mersin (released)
Michael Ngoo (released)
Craig Roddan (released)
Stephen Sama (released)
8 out for £64.3m
In:
Emre Can - Bayern Leverkusen £10m
Adam Lallana - Southampton £25m
Rickie Lambert - Southampton £4m
Kevin Stewart - Spurs £0
Lawrence Vigouroux - Spurs £0
5 in for £39m

11 Jul 2014 22:53:36
£75m according to the echo and I'll take there word over sly all day long.

Its £ 71 million for Suarez.

Lallana was around £ 27 million, Emre at around £10.5 million and Lambert close to £ 5 million so around £ 42M. spent already. Markovic & Origi for a combined £ 30 million will see the spending rise to £ 72 million and the SuareX money gone. Further deals are dependent on how much the transfer budget stretches and on the further sales of the likes of Assaidi, Aspas, Coates, Coady, Robinson, Suso, Reina, Wisdom, Agger, maybe Lucas, maybe Johnson & maybe Borini.

11 Jul 2014 19:44:32
Whoever comes in to "replace" Suarez is going to need a thick skin to put up with the "fans" and the pressure of replacing such a good footballer.
Either that or score 32 goals and give us all Suarez amnesia.
Wilfred bony is an excellent striker I would welcome him at Liverpool.

Mikey, nice to see someone with a sensible and realistic attitude. These fanciful names being desired are just not realistic for where we are at just now. A few more years exposure at the top level then maybe, but unfortunately not now. So we need to make do with the next level. I think Bony is just that, plus his physical presence gives us an outlet if teams decide to press our defenders when our keeper has the ball. Which they were happy to do knowing that the resulting long ball would be easily won against the giants of Sterling n Suarez!

Most of suarez goals came against small teams and we usually won by a few goals so we can afford to drop at least half the goals he scored and still be a success. A 20 goal a season forward is all we need. Would love a punt on balotelli but he is to much of a risk

11 Jul 2014 19:28:14
Not gutted he's gone. Not at all. Not particularly worried about the number of goals that we will miss. We have options. What does concern me is the type of goals that will be missed. The guy has let us all down, but he is undoubtedly a genius. I just don't see where, when people park the bus that genuine creative spark of genius will come from.

Its not a joke, but Rickie Lambert will offer more when people will park the bus. Sturridge and Suarez tried the same things against Chelsea, and we desperately needed another option. Teams park the bus anyway, but when better teams do it, another option is needed.

We didn't need another option against Chelsea we needed to execute the key passes better and have more patience in the build up play, I remember Gerrard in particular smacking a fair few hopeful and long range shots. Neville and Carra analyzed in depth what Liverpool did wrong. I just don't get this myth that sticking a target man would've won us the match. Lambert is a fantastic footballer and much more than a target man. In fact I don't even think Southampton used him as one so we have no way in vouching for his ability in that role.

Suarez got marked out of the game against the big sides and didn't actually score many goals. arguably it should have allowed more space for other players but it didn't as we still tried to play through Suarez as that's what we did.

Now everyone will have to step up and hopefully we'll have more of a threat from four or five players instead of one main threat with sturridge and sterling less of a threat

In the Chelsea match it may not have won it for us, but against teams that park the bus, he will be very useful and potentially a game winner. I still feel we need another star up top, but I can wait another six months or a year if need be. Sturridge is a stud, Lambert and Borini are both worthy of the shirt, and you've got plenty of young'uns waiting in the wings (as well as Sterling, who can play all over the attack).

11 Jul 2014 19:09:22
So, minus Suarez 31 goals and we end up on 70(the season just gone). Anyone else confident we'd score more than 70 next season? I am and I think we can get into the high 80s.

11 Jul 2014 20:18:12
It's not as simple as saying that.
Even when saurez didn't score or assist his movement was pulling defenders with him and giving other players space.
Saurez is one of the best players in the world and were not going to replace him unless we bought messi.
The team as a hole should improve now with that money and its just getting the rite players in for us to move forward.
We need an established player to come in though not just players showing promise.
Strengthen the defence and we don't need 100 goals anyways.

11 Jul 2014 18:50:17
Any chance eds could dig up posts from last year, I am almost sure some people were moaning we didn't go in for Bony, and further back Remy? Now Bony scored 20+ in all competitions and Remy has scored goals for the past two seasons, they are annoyed at the links with these players. Wait till the likes of Lallana, possibly Bony etc play for the club and perform badly like Adam and Carroll before writing them off the same way. If Bony scored 20 goals I am sure nobody will be moaning then

Why is it a problem that people don't want us to sign just any striker? Its as long as they support them after they have been signed. On top of this there is hardly a massive campaign of hatred against the pair.

I wanted bony last season and even more so now! Never wanted Remy and still don't to be honest though. seems to have some off field issues

11 Jul 2014 22:56:49
I agree with shanek I was one who wanted Bony and would be delighted we are going for him minus the risk of not adapting to the EPL.

11 Jul 2014 17:42:32
Hi Eds, I know your not the Liverpool manager and this could be abit of a silly question but do you see Liverpool Looking for a striker to start up top along side Sturridge or do you see us just playing with the one up top. I also think we could have a new SAS is Sturridge and Sterling., If you remember when studge was out norwich game and sterling played upfront he was class. your thoughts mate?

{Ed001's Note - I expect it to change on a game by game basis.}

11 Jul 2014 18:16:31
Eds fellow reds, just read some posts and the reply from royzred (spelling) saying keep the faith BR will sign the quality neede . My question is out of all the players signed by BR which one do you class as top quality .because IMO he hasn't signed one yet .

I've just read your last two comments Kingluis. May I just point out the luis in Dutch means exactly the same as in English - louse! What's in a name eh!

All I want is a top quality team, we finished 2nd last year so we can't be far away from being a fairly top quality side. My hope is that the team is gently tweaked every season with one or 2 buys and we promote from within giving our youngsters opportunities. I seem to remember that was a model many years ago at Anfield

The name king Luis is the king from kenny and Luis from Suarez .but my last name is Lewis

Sakho and Sturridge.

Borini, Coutinho, Mingolet and Ilori have the potential.

You are ignoring what he has done with the current squad though. He upped the game of Suarez, Flanagan, Sterling, Henderson, Gerrard and even Downing.

Try not to be such a muppet please.

This is the first season we have had CL. If you don't think the quality of players coming in this summer is higher than his previous windows then there's nothing I or anyone else can say to make you happy.

MIGNOLET - decent first season, plenty of room for improvement. GOOD
TOURE - signed on a free to replace Carra. Played nearly 30 games and we finished 2nd. GOOD
SAKHO - was always going to take time to settle. First choice for France. Kept Mangala out of team who's valued at 30m. Better and younger than Benatia who's valued at 30m. GOOD
ALLEN - signed when BR was taking over and worried he'd be without Gerrard who'd had lots of injuries the season before. The fee was a release clause. BR wanted a disciple. Gerrard stayed fit and Allen got injured so 15m looks expensive for what we've seen so far. Obvious quality though. Played his part in finishing 2nd and one of the core 14/15 players. GOOD
COUTINHO - tremendous ability and so young. So for the price paid and how good he can be. GREAT
STURRIDGE - No words needed. GREAT
ASSAIDI - paid peanuts for a squad guy. Don't think he's good enough for Liverpool. Won't lose money on him. POOR
ALBERTO - part of a Chelsea like strategy to buy players who can increase in value over time. Time will tell. FoR now POOR
ASPAS - the logic was fine, he'd done well in Spain. Never got to the pace of the PL. Won't lose a fortune though. POOR
BORINI - again made sense for BR to buy players he knew when he came in. Great attitude, decent loan spell. UNDECIDED
ILORI - just young and not often young CBs are trusted in a team at our level. Could be as good as Varane in which case we have a bargain. UNDECIDED
Loans were loans. At least we didn't waste money on signings we didn't really want and Cissokho & Moses played a part (albeit small) in finishing 2nd.
We haven't seen the new signings in action so it's impossible to comment.

So overall it's not a bad record is it? We might lose 2.5m on Aspas & Assaidi this summer. But Coutinho & Sturridge have gone up in value by c30m combined.

Trot out the usual stuff like the herd who don't think for themselves though if it makes you feel better. And we'd all care more if BR had taken us to 12th in the table rather than 2nd.

Anfield boy, agree that coutinho and sturridge are good players wouldn't say great .would they make first team in the leagues top sides not sure .they would make 15 man and the only other mignolet but not any better than reina for me .the point I'm trying to make is that LFC recruitment staff aren't the best imo

Luis. But we are a top team. 2nd best last season. What's the point of asking whether one of our players would get into another team? I'm only concerned with my team and if you're as fair as I think I have been you will see we aren't muppets in the transfer market. I haven't tried to say we've got it right all the time. But we do alright compared to other top teams. Spurs (Chiriches, Chadli, Capoue, Soldado, Lamela), United (Fellaini, Powell, Zaha, Buttner) and Man City (Sinclair, Rodwell, Jovetic, Savic). Make you feel any better? Probably not!

Kingluis you are coming across as clueless. We just finished 2nd, tell me how you would not consider us to be one of the leagues top sides after finishing 2nd? Enlighten me.

Don't forget lalanna ems ;) don't care he hasn't touched a ball for us yet he is and will be top top quality!

Not saying we're not a top team, I'm making the point that all the teams around us are going to be better this year and we have lost our best player .thats fine but we need top players to come in not average prem players

Average means in the middle doesn't it? Lallana was among the best players in the PL. Short listed for PFA award. Lambert & Bony among the top scorers in the league, hence not your average strikers. Markovich won the title with Benfica and helped them get to the Europa final and is considered one of a handful of players capable of becoming a superstar. I'm still not getting your point. Your own definition (average) can't be levelled at our actual or prospective signings. Arsenal spent 40m on Ozil and City 27m on Navas and both were bang average in the Prem. Is it just sexy names you want?

I believe the transfer window is open for a few more days, and am sure once we get the first lump sum from Barca, we should buy a top player or two, just give Brendan time to make the right choice . ynwa .

11 Jul 2014 18:09:55
eds reds now suarez has gone, good luck to him he gave us everything! but who do we get to play up top? I think sturridge as the main man would work and matbe that's what he wants. as a partner for danny i'd say maybe bony but a cheaper and proven striker is remy. 8million buy out clause can't argue with that in my opinion. godbless96 steviep62.

I'd like his versatility as well, easily can play both wings and up top centrally. We should all get this whole "replace" out of our heads and just try to focus on what we can do to improve ourselves.

By that I mean he's terrible in comparison to Suarez but he's still very good so I'd be happy with him coming.

11 Jul 2014 18:02:18
People now saying Sanchez isn't all that good since he signed for Arsenal. IMO it was a transfer tussle we lost they won. My opinion of the player won't change. He could get into any team in this league and could be the difference Arsenal need this year. I hope it works out for them and he hits the ground running. I'm not worried anyway we will look after our own business to keep the pace this year. People need to grow up. We're not supposed to be the bitters. Congratulations DG and the rest of u arsenal fans if your about you guys got a cracking player.

On to our own squad. I for one am delighted with what we have done so far. Although one thing that seems to be happening more is players giving ultimatums to there club's to force a move namely Lalana and Lovern. What if barca come for them next season, will they do the same to us? Don't get me wrong both are very welcome additions to the team. I trust BR & co know what there doing. I think if we can get Monero, Lovern, Origi, Markovic and what ever else FSG have up there selves this will the best transfer window since we seen the Spanish Armada.

I said it earlier Suarez left today and the letter IMO ensures no bitterness was left behind and hopefully if he comes back to Anfield he won't be subject to abuse unlike a certain Mr. Torres.

Cheers guys.

11 Jul 2014 17:52:01
When do we think defensive reinforcements will arrive, all we seem to be interested in at the moment are attack-minded
Players.

The transfer window is only 11 days old. Have some freaking patience man!

11 Jul 2014 18:32:01
Tuesday the 29th of June at 3:47pm.

11 Jul 2014 19:18:41
Now we have the Suarez deal sorted I think we'll see 4 deals pretty quickfire.
Lovren, Markovic and Origi look dead certs. I expect a left back also from Bertrand, Rojo and Moreno.
After that I think we'll sign one more forward; Ed002 says Huntelaar is most likely atm. The papers are all over Bony like a rash. Personally I'm hoping Rodgers pulls a shock out the bag. Someone like Reus, Lavezzi or Rodriguez that nobody saw coming. that's just me being hopeful though.
I also reckon we'll sign Vorm and expect the papers have got it all wrong regarding Bony/Davies.

Hopeful: Lovren, Rojo, Markovic, Lavezzi and Vorm.
Likely: Lovren, Bertrand, Markovic, Huntelaar and Vorm.

I would still be pleased with the likely scenario though.

Defensive reinforcements should have
been the PRIORITY. we were
scoring goals for fun but leaking them
all over the show. if we don't get
it sorted we'll be on the end of a
hammering like BRAZIL. let's not
bury our heads in the sand thinking
everything's rosy.

"Reus, Lavezzi or Rodriguez"?

I don't think these players are looking to move to Liverpool. Think Barcelona and Real Madrid.

And Rodriguez would cost what Suarez is costing.

11 Jul 2014 17:35:14
A genius, a magician a street fighter a chaser of lost causes a superstar? A nutter a cannible a racist a thug a vampire All headlines created by Luis Suarez Liverpools number7, gutted he's gone, love him or hate him he brought many a smile to my face and always will.

Good luck Luis Suarez

And seemingly couldn't leave quick enough

11 Jul 2014 17:30:35
If we had kept Suarez and Sturridge had remained fit until the end of the season, who would have been unavailable for a higher percentage of their time at LFC? People say injuries make Sturridge unreliable as no.1 but I have a feeling he actually would be missing a lot less games so far

11 Jul 2014 17:28:24
With the speed that Rodgers has acted on this summer's transfers, I was thinking how he must have been severely constrained (financially) the past two summers in being able to get his targets. Not to say that the constraints are no longer there, but I wish a lot of the posters out here would keep all this in mind while posting about insulting other teams with low offers or not going after top or world class players (whichever one is popular at the moment). To me FSG just keeps on showing it's a professional, well run organization. You do what you can with what you have!

11 Jul 2014 17:26:16
Now Suarez has gone what next will we get another striker? Trust the ones we have. There was a lot of reports about bony but does he really suit LFC style of play? I believe Sanchez was a must if Suarez went

11 Jul 2014 18:34:22
Sanchez was a must, but he chose arsenal. Who have been constantly in CL for how long? He maybe saw us as not a dead cert to get back in after only getting back in this year after 5 years out of it. Also. Pride may have bean a factor. Nobody wants to be the make weight in a deal.
I would have fkin loved it though!!

11 Jul 2014 17:25:22
You got us Champions League football and left the club while we were on a high unlike Torres and Owen. In my opinion, you are the only player that comes close to Maradona when it comes to doing the unthinkable and the sheer passion you displayed on the field. Thanks for the memories Luis Suarez - YNWA

11 Jul 2014 17:18:13
What about Marco Reus now there's no chance of him going to Barca?

I agree if he isn't going to Barcelona we have to do our utmost to get him on board. He is a great talent and would go someway to filling the void left with saurez going

Why would Reus come here? Be realistic FFS

11 Jul 2014 17:03:39
Sad to see Luis leave wish him all the best looking forward to see the next super striker take the lime light your up Studge

11 Jul 2014 16:49:50
I really think we should put our efforts in to convincing Thomas Muller to come to LFC. We won't replace Suarez player for player, this much is obvious; however Muller's positioning, work rate and finishing, as well as his big match temperament and age - this makes him the prime candidate to compliment our system.


I won't get into the financial logistics as I understand the confusion surrounding player transfers and what LFC can afford to do. But if it is feasible, we should make a concerted effort. Muller has expressed concern about his position at Bayern in the past so a move is not completely out of the question.

If it is to be Bony, I do believe he can turn out to be a great player albeit quite different to what we're used to. Trust Brendan, he knows what he's doing

Obviously would be good but every team in the world would want him if he wants to leave which I don't think he does sadly. but even so out of all his options I doubt he would choose Liverpool over psg Madrid citeh Chelsea etc. unfortunately at the moment compared to the world's best we can't match location or money certainly not both :/

11 Jul 2014 17:10:16
Never going to happen, but I told my brother just the other day that if I could sign one player (reasonably, not Messi money), I would sign Muller. He's just what we need honestly.

11 Jul 2014 17:17:53
Muller signed a new contract a month ago. He's going no-where, utterly unfeasible.

11 Jul 2014 16:48:38
how come there is agreed and disagree under posts but well for me anyways no way to press to agree or anonymous troll and disagree all posts lol

11 Jul 2014 17:15:02
Yeah same here giblet. I'm getting nothing showing up on the screen to press either whether to agree or disagree.

{Ed001's Note - try refreshing your browser, that should fix it.}

11 Jul 2014 17:26:13
I am assuming you're using a mobile site, it's the same here for me.

{Ed002's Note - This is getting tedious already - I will be deleting any more posts about the agree/disagree stuff.

Hi ED001

Even I am facing the issue where agree disagree is there but with buttons on it. I refreshed many times tho.

Chaki

{Ed001's Note - are you using the mobile version of the site? They may not have been added there yet.}

11 Jul 2014 16:38:21
Am I the only one on here who actually thinks Bony would be a great addition?

Strong, reasonably quick, can get that half yard and an unbelievable shot. As good a scoring record as Benzema, Higuain and never gets injured.

Also gets involved and is very useful in Build Up play. I'm personally hoping this one gets done.

Underrated methinks.

No Davey. I too can't see too much wrong with a feller who was new to the PL, played in a struggling team, had two managers yet scored 25 goals and then popped 2 in for good measure at the WC. He was also the striker that caused more problems than any other I can think of at Anfield last season. If he wad going to Borussia Dortmund or Arsenal for 19m the same people would be moaning that we are missing out on him. And to those people who say he can't play football. What team has been playing for? Is it the one that Martinez & Rodgers built.

I agree with you both.
He put in a fair share of 'eye catching' performances last season.
He ain't no 'Luis Suarez' but he has all the attributes to become another Liverpool Legend. If he's availible for £20 million he'd be worth every penny.

11 Jul 2014 17:32:00
Agree here too, as matter of fact I agree with the most of you post/comment there Ab.

11 Jul 2014 17:38:45
i agree lads hoping we get him,the lads a beast people who say he's not good enough either haven't watched him or really just don't know a good player,im shocked chelsea didn't go in for him AND costa we got to snatch this guy quick

11 Jul 2014 17:49:20
I agree. Most are underestimating what he can do. I honestly reckon if we get him a lot of people will have serious egg on there face. Or maybe I will lol

I agree. I think the main problem for some of our fans is that he doesn't play for a foreign team or have an exotic sounding name!
I recall the clamour for Lallana some months ago, but now we have him he suddenly isn't a big enough name!

11 Jul 2014 16:31:28
gotta have my say.
£75mil is a v good bit of business. he was off no matter what. with his latest biting incident, whoever was putting the deal together deserves a medal for getting that kind of cash for him.
If the deal was in discussions in November, then even before the world cup he was only ever going to attract a price of £80mil tops. he's 27 with a history of suspensions. I think the club have done a great job keeping it under wraps for so long and commanding a good price.
Thanks for the memories Luis, the last game I saw you at was vs Chelsea at Anfiled last year, where u scored the equalizer in the last minute, oh and something else happened that we'll soon forget about.

If only his replacement came from the academy, a local lad, things would all be ok by the weekend.

On that thought, are there any local lads in the academy that are an out and out striker?

11 Jul 2014 17:14:24
There's no way Barcelona have paid £75m for the Bite King. It's more like £64m methinks.

I posted earlier that I also think £75m was a good bit of buisness. Check out BBC Sport article on how "Barcelona get their man, Liverpool get their money".

The only out and out striker is Yesil. Is he leaving on loan Ed?

{Ed001's Note - should be yes.}

Gutted he's gone but a liability £75 million is good money, now let's not waste that money. Remember, if he bites/racially abuses again then his career will probably be over and Barca can't re-sell.

11 Jul 2014 16:11:30
I really do not want bony. No way is he a good enough replacement for Suarez, it's actually ridiculous.

I would say he's not the player we need. You can't say he's not good enough he hasn't even played for us! He could play really well you never know but I would much rather an attacking winger.

I'm not so sure. Bony proved he can scrap and work hard for his team and getting as many goals as he did with, arguably, worse service than he would get with us can only give encouragement. Ultimately we are not going to get a player the same as Suarez, but we can get a player that is less expensive and less proven than he, but with the desire, ambition, hunger and raw talent to do the club justice. Bony might just be that striker. I would not bet against it at any rate. Would still prefer Robben though and throw him up front with Sturridge!

Who is the replacement for Suarez?

There is no direct replacement for a player of his ability and attitude.

11 Jul 2014 16:48:44
Bony may be just the player to partner Sturridge,look at him like that rather than looking at him as a direct replacement for suarez

Ok I get where you're coming from when you say "less proven", but lads, not every player is going to surprise us. Remember we got Coutinho. Nobody knew who he was, now he's 'suddenly' a great player. But we can't be clever all the time. We can't keep signing unproven players, hoping they get better. Potentiol is nothing unless it's achieved. What we need is a fans favourite, a freaking shot in the dark! Muller, Reus, I know I sound mad in the head but it's what the fans want, and it's what the team needs, and it will give the players confidence when they see a fantastic name coming in.

11 Jul 2014 15:55:43
Reading a lot of the posts about how we have overpaid for players we have bought/are looking to buy.

Made we wonder how much successful EPL experience is worth? Would you agree that doubling a lower fee (

Ern typing epic fail!

To summarise, how much do you think successful EPL experience is worth when looking at new players? Double the fee? Extra £10m?

It's more to do with the money in our league. It's richer than any other. Surviving in it is therefore ultra competitive. Players who have proved themselves therefore have a premium because they can help you cement your place at whatever level you are competing at. For the same reason lots of clubs chase the best players so their price goes up. To balance things out every club has to look for bargains abroad. For every Michu (first season) though there are ten Bebe's.

11 Jul 2014 15:41:46
Do you know anything regarding the transfers of Benficas Joao Filipe and Joao Virginia?

{Ed002's Note - They are kiddies, I really have no interest.}

You won't win anything with kids.

11 Jul 2014 15:33:19
Hi ed sorry to bother you again can you please explain if you can the process of this money we getting off barca how it works out (ie all or instalments) thanks be great to see your reply.

{Ed002's Note - We are not going to discuss money. All day I have seen nothing but BS and misinformation.}

11 Jul 2014 15:27:51
Bye Luis don't forget to lock the door on the way out.

11 Jul 2014 15:23:28
Just been reading through some of the posts, their so negative then I come to one asking what pot we're in for the champions league! We have the draw to look forward to, so exciting. How can you write such negative drivel when we got so much to look forward to! We are attracting top young talent and will be playing attractive attacking football among the worlds elite. Get an absolute grip!

Biggest overreaction ever

11 Jul 2014 15:51:08
Because most of us would like CL excitement every season. We don't want to be a Spurs qualify once then fail to build on it.

Just trying to cheer everybody up and have a look at what's in front of you! What's the point in having it every season if you can't enjoy the one we've just qualified for

11 Jul 2014 14:59:37
Seriously want us to be in a group with Barca next season.

What a player Suarez is, shame he's crazy.

Onto bigger and better things!

He probably be banned haha

11 Jul 2014 14:41:05
Back to eufa cup next year great, we won't replace suarez with quality we going back to days where we was 2 years ago

Try supporting the manager and team. Stop moaning that the spoilt brat has gone. We replaced torres and will replace suarez. The club is bigger than any player. If you don't want to support Liverpool please support someone else. People like you give Liverpool fans a bad name

11 Jul 2014 14:56:56
Do you forget to remember that Suarez has been banned for 18 games, without yellow/red card bans or injuries included, over those two seasons and it was the other players who stepped up in those games?
Suarez is world class but also a liability. We will strengthen our squad and replace one player who has never completed a season without ban for us for several players who even combined will probably be banned for less games over the next 2 years, and will between them score or assist the goals we've lost.

. but at least you are willing to give the new signings (including those that haven't arrived yet) a chance.

In the words of our ever-present profanity filter: What a complete and utter PERSON!

Troll. try staying on the manc page

Rubbish comment LFC will be stronger next season have some faith in the manager. We ill not try and replace the irreplaceable but will invest in quality fast skilful young footballers who ant to be at our great club. Exciting times ahead still feel we will challenge on all fronts.

Is 99 the year you were born? If so even at 15 you should have a little more sense. we will be fine stop worrying!

11 Jul 2014 14:59:04
Very negative post indeed! Why not be positive and support the team and players who we have at the club! No one player is bigger than the club.

Back to the days two years ago?
When we finished 8th with Charlie Adam and Jay Spearing in midfield?

Get a grip

It looks like the Negative chickens are starting to come out of their eggshell. If the club thought the way you did then we will never move ahead.
we sold many of our star players like we have done in the past e.g. Owen, Torres, Rush and ALonso and we have coped!.

Saurez was a great player in the field, perhaps one of the best I have seen graced in a Liverpool shirt but as a man he had problems and undoubtely abit paranoid as to why he is getting negative media attention when it's him the one who is bringing the attention to himself.
Anyway, We will find adequate replacements for saurez, its a big question in time who will.

11 Jul 2014 15:13:48
You are very welcome to leave too. You won't be missed.

Tonkz99. What an personic and negative comment to make go and support another team, moron

Tonkz99 - 2 years ago we had a quality player named Luis Suarez Diaz. However the last match played in the UEFA Cup took place on 20th May 2009 in that great city Istanbul. This also reminds me that your 'statement' is a great example of instant bull. Keep taking the tablets.

11 Jul 2014 14:37:37
Sad to see el pistolero go in terms of his playing ability
YNWA

11 Jul 2014 14:27:35
Benzema
I really.like him is a player. Divides a lot of opinion but he can be a great striker in my opinion. Technically superb. He.doesnt have that arrogance and selfishness to be a really top forward yet but that's what's missing from his game. He has great.ability and if he moved to Liverpool, I would be happy. Underated IMO

I think the operative word is "can" just doesn't do it often enough for me!

Shane, are you implying that Emre is the key to unlocking Karim's consistency issues? Seems like a match made in heaven, let's get him!

That's possibly the best response I've seen on here! Very nicely done haha

11 Jul 2014 14:19:55
well suarez has gone not supprised to be honest and yes I know he is band from playing until november but according to sly sports n guillem balague we only got £64 million wow I was 1 for him going but I would of thought we would atleast of got £75 million even phil thomo has stated that let's just hope the club don't buy your average player to replace him yes I know we have sturridge but if he gets injured we can't rely on lambert and I for 1 don't think borini is of lfc standard ye he is a good player but he is more of an average team player we are trying to compete for the champions league and the premiership we need proven world class players atleast 1 or 2 or we are never going to get this club back to were we belong and I don't care who slates me on here but you look at other top teams they have world class players and can compete we need quality not quantity i'm happy with can and lallana don't get me wrong but unless we buy another proven striker then we are going to rely on sturridge just like we have been doing for years when torres was here we was all screaming for another striker p.s thanx for all your efforts ed, s

Ever heard of a sentence? haha.

Loads of different figures flying about mate just trust that the club are doing their job. After all, we think about stuff like this in our spare time whereas it's their job and they have way more knowledge than us on the subject.

YNWA

Don't believe guillem balague. Remember he said Alberto was an excellent buy for LFC!

GONE? YOU SURE? God, didn't see that coming! how did they manage to keep that quiet!(snigger)

11 Jul 2014 14:42:13
Why would anyone believe anything Sly Sports says, and Balague is Spanish, he will say anything that makes Spanish clubs look good -most other sites all say the buy out clause of £75 million has been met.

And in my humble opinion is Saurez as an individual player is irreplaceable, we will have to change our style to maintain our challenge. Hence the reason for the players already bought.

John I agree with most of your post, if we are going to compete well in the Champions League, we will need 2//3 world class players on the pitch, however, I believe both Sturridge and Sterling will step up this coming season, and hopefully 3/4 more signing will strenghten the team were we are a bit weak, say left back, centre back, winger, I have heard this 20 yrs old winger Markivic, spelling, will be a class act soon, look Suarez had to go, great player, always gave 100 per cent, but he wants a move, he will bite, and once bitten, twice shy, so let's trust Brendan Rodgers to take us to the next level . ynwa .

11 Jul 2014 15:14:57
The same Balague that said Neymar signed for FCB for 40 million Euros last summer?

Why is Lambert not good enough cover why oh why someone who throughout his career is involved in better than a goal every two games why is it the worst thing in the world he comes in for a few games!

11 Jul 2014 14:15:00
hi eds great job. I know you guys don't like to talk about money issue but do you think other clubs knowing that we have sold suarez now, will demand more money for our targets? thanks

{Ed002's Note - No.}

11 Jul 2014 14:08:20
thanks for all the goals and skills luis, you put us back where we belong.
unfortunately you lost your mind and done stupid things, but I will remember the great things you done.
without suarez we would not be in cl this season that a fact.
lets hope we spend the money wisely and move on.
Malta

11 Jul 2014 13:17:54
Hi Eds,
Fabulous job you are doing as always :-)
So that's it then - it looks like Suarez is off. Given that Sanchez has gone to London, given your choice of those strikers who may be on the market at the right price, who would you pick to be a replacement for Luis 'Teeth' Suarez and why?
Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I am sure others will have an opinion.}

11 Jul 2014 14:07:21
At the right price and realistically, Lacazette or Lavezzi.

Whoever Rodgers wants :)

11 Jul 2014 14:19:15
No need for a direct replacement we have 3 great strikers, Sturridge Borini and Lambert A CB, LB and another attacking winger is what the money should be spent on

Ibrahimovic, Benzema, Ballotelli or Cavani.

I know he didn't have the best of seasons last year, or a get a work permit neccassarily but Luis Muriel would be intruiging.

11 Jul 2014 14:55:37
Luis Muriel is crap. He has struggled with weight, form and injuries throughout his professional career.

Did I mention he is crap?

Are you Muriel's PR agent, AG?

AG is spot on about Muriel. Unfortunately the similarities with Ronaldo are with the (literally) larger than life Brazilian of today rather than the 20 year-old that blew us away playing for Sir Bobby at Barca.

11 Jul 2014 13:39:30
“The most tragic thing in the world is a man of genius who is not a man of honor.”
― George Bernard Shaw


Thanks for the memories!

Quailty quote

I agree - great quote.

A life spent making mistakes is not only more honourable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.
-George Bernard Shaw - the master contradictor!

11 Jul 2014 16:30:03
Cheers.

Marshy, I am sure you'd agree that mistakes and honor are 2 different things, but I get your point mate.

Shaw was misquoted. He actually said:

"The most tragic thing in the world is a manc"

Everything else is the work of his ghost writer, Ernie Postlethwaite.

11 Jul 2014 17:40:02
Haha!

Btw was he related to Pete?

That made me chuckle Zed.

11 Jul 2014 13:36:04
Eds, do any of you know if there is any perceived issue with Suso? Is he lazy in training, demanding too much, clashes with members of the staff or just not seen as good enough?

He was seen as a really good player so I'm just curious to what has happened.

Thanks

{Ed002's Note - This has been done to death in the past SR.}

Ok, apologies Ed. I know how busy you all are. I just couldn't find anything on the search function. Later

11 Jul 2014 14:19:54
wants 1st team football

Thanks Joshster

11 Jul 2014 13:49:11
Loopy Lou was was a great player passion, skill goals! hunger and the will to win awesome! Let's hope Sterling Sturridge Henderson and Coutinho show same kind of passion on the field next season.

11 Jul 2014 13:28:58
I remember one of the eds (Ed002-i think) said that Rodgers has less control over transfers due to previous buys. I was wondering if the eds & people want to share who they think was a poor buy?

Personally rate Rodgers but maybe a couple of poor ones, although I personally think this is due to them not being played enough rather than just poor players.

Illori has not played much-but think he could prove good signing

Aspas- never got enough playing time-but not good enough perhaps

Assaidi - great speed but not sure he is good enough. should get money back though I would have thought

Sturridge- great buy

Boroni - IMO very good buy. needs chance to shine but has good eye for goal, and will work hard-great attitude

Joe Allen- over priced perhaps but serves his role very well, mostly

Sahin - terrible attitude, clearly did not want to play for us

Yesil - can't comment

Alberto- no idea. needs more time, or sell. not sure he is good enough

Cissokho and moses - neither up to scratch-but maybe cover was needed?

Anyway over to you Eds & the rest

Forgot coutinho. ill add it for u. great buy!

Coutinho good buy!

11 Jul 2014 14:05:27
17 senior players have been signed during BR's time here; having spend over 150 million Pounds.

And how much has our success and Brendan's ability to improve players added the value of the squad? More than we will lose on some so-called misses in the market?

Oh yeah, coutinho! lol
Not bad I guess :)

BUt what do you guys think about the signings so far?

11 Jul 2014 14:57:38
So far since when?

11 Jul 2014 13:23:13
Hi
Suarez transfer now confirmed. Is Bony the likey/only replacement or can we expect a bid for someone else?

Lambert? Markovic? Borini?

We don't need to replace players who leave we need to improve the overall strength of the squad.

Let's see how the next few weeks go and judge the squad as a whole at the start of the season.

11 Jul 2014 13:01:34
Now looking forward to drawing Barca in the CL group stages!.

You can put your mortgage on that have no doubt we will get them in the group stage.

Oh well, I've bears one of their best players is suspended for it

11 Jul 2014 12:59:55
As a Liverpool fan I would like to thank Luis Suarez for
his services to the club. Yes he has had his ups and downs but all I will remember is the great player he is and many times watching him play I used to say to my son "how did he do that".
He is an extraordinary talent that we have had the pleasure of watching him play for our great club.
I think he is irreplaceable so to try and find another would be very costly and difficult.
Think Brendan is doing the right thing to spend the money to build a better squad and not on one player.
Good luck Luis and thank you again for the skill, technique and fabulous goals we have watched over the past few years.

11 Jul 2014 12:16:12
Hello Eds and posters
I would like to know your opinion on our transfer market strategy with young players. It is nice to see young lads with potential in our squad but is it really necessery to buy players from other teams when we already have some potential stars in our academy? No doubt Can, Origi or Markovic are players with bright future. But honestly, I would like to see more players from our academy in our first team with more time on the pitch next season like Ibe, Teixera, Suso (I would like to keep him but I know he wants out), Wisdom. Flanno and Reheem are great examples for them. We could save the money on stadium and strategic projects so we could be maybe more interesting destination for higher caliber players like Sanchez. i'm not calling for world class signings. I would like to built the team on players from our academy with few top quality signings around them in the future. They should be only missing pieces in the puzzle. History shows that top quality teams were often built on players from their academy - Barca, ManU, Ajax. I know it is very risky and you need a lot of patience as there is often problem for the young lads when they start to play with older (we can mention our Pacheco, Nemeth. ) What is your opinion on our academy, players and transfer policy? I believe in good and respectful discussion. Thanks for your replies and opinions. And again sorry for my english.
YNWA

I agree with you although as you say it requires patience which many fans and owners don't have. It would certainly be a crime if we squander much of the young talent we currently have at our disposal in favour of buying players unnecessarily.

11 Jul 2014 12:53:24
Right he's gone. Now let's support the player's who actually want to play for Liverpool.
BarryinLouth

Well said.

11 Jul 2014 12:49:32
I know that LFC are bigger than just one player but my only concern is that will we find another forward player with the drive and hunger that Suarez had for us, we remember the bad incidents involving Suarez but what about the goals that we scored and created by Suarez chasing after lost causes, when no other LFC player would hound defenders yet Suarez would close down the ball, he chased after the ball even to fans amazement at times, I just hope we find someone that will have that kind of hunger, or maybe lambert or lallana is that kind of player. just a thaught

11 Jul 2014 12:39:25
Liverpool Football club have made a statement regarding the transfer of Suarez to Barcelona! It was time for him to go but I still wish him all the best in the future. He is officially going now and I honestly believe we won't even miss him. In 6 months we will be moaning about other players and he will be a distant memory! Can't wait for the season ahead.

Cheers

We go again!

I love your positivity but how can we not miss Luis? He is the best player I have ever seen wearing our shirt. Bit of a nutter but a footballing genius who scared other teams witless.
We will adapt survive the loss and hopefully BR will find a way to fill the huge gap he leaves, but we will definitely miss him

11 Jul 2014 14:01:35
The best of luck to Suarez, but just not against us.

Time to move on.

11 Jul 2014 12:32:42
Well that's it lfc.TV confirmed Luis has gone good luck you served us well good work eds and was bang on as usual with everything have a nice day everyone ynwa

Good news I believe. Great player but his issues have caused Liverpool more than enough headaches. Hopefully he will grow up at Barca and concentrate on his football. Good luck to him but we move on. Liverpool Football Club is bigger than any player and we will sign quality replacements to ensure we succeed.

11 Jul 2014 13:29:10
Yep Ed002 was bang on all the way.

Don't care if he grows up at Barca, rather he carried on the way he was and see how they deal with him

11 Jul 2014 12:31:29
Eds or Reds,

Do we have some sort of agreement or connection with Roma? We are playing them again in pre season in the US this year.

Similarily, are we playing Brondby because of some sort of agreement r.e the Agger deal?

{Ed002's Note - One of the FSG investors is a major investor in Roma.}

11 Jul 2014 13:59:40
I suspect we are regrading the Agger/Brondby friendly query.

Though, we do have a very large fan base in Denmark.

11 Jul 2014 12:27:35
If markovic completes his medical over the weekend will he be eligible to play in the match on Wednesday?

{Ed002's Note - He will be able to play when is transfer is registered.}

Wow would be good to see him.

11 Jul 2014 12:19:40
Would you expect just LW, lb &cb or a long with them a striker? I'll be happy with just markovic, lovren and a lb as I think we won't need to score as many goals if we play 4-3-3 as we will be able to be a lot more solid! Thanks for all the work

11 Jul 2014 11:59:08
Any update wth Markovic Eds? Medical today as expected or still more hold ups?

{Ed002's Note - See earlier answer.}

11 Jul 2014 11:45:59
Eds, As well as an attacking winger and a striker, do you know if we are are looking to strenghten our defensive midfield area? I think stevie will be used more cleverly this year and for sure won't be playing every game.We need a tough tackling midfielder .Lucas has had his time too n joe allen is a little weak for me.Was emre can bought in the for this reason? Or are we still looking for more depth?
Cheers JM

{Ed002's Note - Can.}

11 Jul 2014 11:32:35
Just looked down the page and I want to ask, do you actually read the full post when people send it in?

I haven't read one post saying llanna is crap or decent but not good enough for Liverpool, yet your all posting saying you hope he rams the words of all the " HATER'S " down there throats etc etc, WTF are you all talking about, the only so called perceived negativity attached to him would be posters questioning the fee we paid which is not a criticism of him but the clubs transfer negotiators.

I have no opinion on Llanna because I've not seen enough of him, but hopefully he's fantastic.

I will give you all an opinion that you can moan about to your hearts content, Wilfred Bony, NO NO NO NO, he's not even in the one season wonder Benteke Michu bracket ( there both s***e btw ), he had half a decent season, and there's know way we will sign him.

p.s. here's another, people saying they want Lucas to stay, the most over rated player in our history, if we get offered £5 million I would snap there hands off.

11 Jul 2014 11:43:41
Waro, have you heard anything about Bony signing or any transfer rumors?

I have to agree on Bony, I don't see what he adds to the team.

11 Jul 2014 11:49:37
Have you actually read the full posts?
Plenty of people have been slating Lallana and Lucas was very very good until his injuries.

I read all of that post and was thinking "Well I don't agree with him but at least he is coherent and makes his point well"

Then you state that Lucas is the most overrated player in our history and I realise I may well have been listening to my left testicle for all the sense it makes.

How can people say that Lucas is overrated? He is not rated. by anyone! But still season after season he puts in solid dependable performances, which have only become less frequent recently because of injury.

Now I'm not saying he is the best player we've ever had, far far from it, but the guy would give his all for the club and is still hated by some blinkered cretins.

If he does leave then he will be missed, and I wish him all the best for the future, he deserves it for all he's done for the club.

To be honest, I only agree with your P.S. sentence. None of us will ever know how good a signing will be for our team, so I think you have been unkind on Bony and Benteke. You can probably find statistics against them, but you can't prove that they will be bad in a Liverpool team. But I do agree that Lucas should be sold. He is not the success story that everyone seems to refer to, when an unknown player is signed. But that is just my own opinion.

11 Jul 2014 12:13:20
You're truly clueless if you think Lucas is "the most over rated player in our history", quite the opposite. He's always had plastic fans like you digging at him and yet, before his latest injury, was one of the most vital components of our team. Over rated? More like under rated.

I agree that Bony shouldn't be an option. Decent player, but we are a champions league side now and we should aim our sights a bit higher. It doesn't even have to be a striker. I'd make Sturridge the main man and bring in quality players around him. James Rodriguez would be my choice (but it will never happen).

I also agree that it is time to move Lucas on. He hasn't been the same since his injury problems, and we need to bring in a solid defensive midfielder who will provide adequate cover for our defenders. From what I have seen of Emre Can, he is more of a central midfielder than a defensive one.

Red Rum

Warp
What a load of nonsense
Lucas Leiva did not perform that well at the end of the season but if Gerrard is injured he can play the defensive midfield role well for us
The most over rated player in our history! You either have a short memory or are just writing that to get a response
Lucas is an excellent professional that has only given his best every time he steps on the pitch
There are others in the current squad who would improve if they had his attitude
Paul Stewart, Julian dicks, aquilani. Remember them?

I think you would be a mug to take £5 million for Lucas.

Classic Waro that post. You are annoyingly consistent mate.

Surely Glen Johnson is the most overated player in our history - or are we just all in agreement that he is crap?

Bony is good but I don't think he'd suit us. No confirmation of any interest though, it's just media guessing. The talks may have been on Swansea enquiring about our players.

Lucas was absolutely superb before his last injury and only half a player since. Still worth more like £10m and after a summers rest I'd be happy to give him one more season to see if he can return to form.

For me Benteke is frustratingly inconsistent and Michu is over-rated alright.

Think both Cheryou and Biscan win the overrated player award.
The next Zidane and Biscan was the next 'someone amazing'

Lucas was one of our best the previous season and played well until injured in this past season

This is getting hilarious now. Bony isn't hood enough yesterday he scores at rate that is better than 1 in 2 games. I thought we were trying to replace LS goals? The creativity is sorted. Lallana, Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge & Markovich. If our 4 strikers next season are Sturridge, Bony, Lambert & Borini then we will be picking from a group of players that scored 73 (SEVENTY THREE) goals LAST season. I swear some people will complain about anything.

11 Jul 2014 11:25:22
Hi Eds,

What do you think of these Benzema to Liverpool rumours? lazy journalism?

Or, do you think it could be true?

Will Real get Falcao?

Would you be happy with Bony, Markovic and Lallana as Luis's replacements?

Thanks, hope you day is sunny!

{Ed002's Note - I don't expect Benzema's future to be decided until a replacement arrives and that is likely to be Falcao. I would not say the three players are a replacement for Suarez.}

Thanks Eds,

Would Benzema be keen on a move to Liverpool do you feel?

Would you say the 3 are an alternative then as we will never get a like for like with Luis.

I do like that BR is going for a English spine in the team. Munich have a german spine and the best Barca team had a spanish spine.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he would want. Sorry.}

I hope not

He'll want to live in London

11 Jul 2014 11:16:29
I don't understand why we're in for Bony. I thought it was part of Rogers philosophy to have a fluid, inter-changing attack. I thought there were more flexible options out there for the money being quoted. Sorry, i'm just finding our business a little baffling at times. The only club doing what Rodgers said he would do in the transfer market is Arsenal. Ok, bellyache over!

At Swansea Rodgers had a front 3 of Dyer, Graham and Sinclair. There was nothing interchangeable about it. He has two wide players and a hold up forward you gave Sigurdson and co time to break forward and support the attack. He played a fluid front 3 last season because we had the players to do so. It doesn't always work though and was only made possible by the fact Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge were capable of doing it. It's easy to park the bus against though.

I would take Huntelaar or Bony. They're not my preferred choices and I doubt it's even Bony we're after, but Rodgers will just adapt the system against certain opposition to fit a more rigid player in.

On the same page as you brother. I understand that we want to have a variety of options in attack for games when we are finding it difficult to break teams down like Chelsea at home last year. However this is what I thought was the primary reason of signing Lambert and I was very much keen on this idea. It seems now though as if Lambert is going to be back up to Bony and Sturridge, with the physical striker approach replacing the guile and creativity of Suarez.

I was under the influence that with Suarez leaving we could now play the 4-3-3 formation we appear to prefer, with a goal scoring winger (Sanchez) replacing his goals. I'm not sure why the highest goal scorers in the league (admittedly 30 down to Suarez) would think, 'we are doing something wrong, let's change our philosophy'. We don't even really play with out-and-out wingers who cross the ball regularly, so I can't quite understand the logic behind targeting Bony even though I do think he is a very good player.

Rogers has said all long we need a bigger squad with greater depth due to the increase in games next season, Arsenal have signed 1 player!

Admittedly Sanchez is a great player but I don't rate Debuchy, and other players linked to them such as Remy are not world class.

Our needs are different to Arsenals, as are the finances.

Please watch bony play he doesn't get many goals from crosses! Even just watch his goals for Swansea last season! The one against man u sticks out when there was good link up play a ball through and a incredibly tidy finish which was not easy but he made look simple. he is a very technically good player and while I don't see him being number 1 striker or breaking scoring records I would bet any one on here that he will score over 15 goals without being a regular starter

11 Jul 2014 12:29:05
Adam, BR has changed his methods from his Swansea days.

AG Rodgers has changed his methods about 4 times since then! He went from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-2 to 5-4-1 to4-4-1-1 to 4-1-2-1-2! what's to say he isn't looking to change it again? He is a great manager because he doesn't stand still. We are nearly impossible to tactically counter against because you never know what's coming! I think he wants options to change the formation as and when he pleases. Not like for like replacements for a 4-1-2-1-2 formation.

11 Jul 2014 13:53:02
Yes that is what I meant.

Good post EMS, we will need a much bigger squad for this coming season, it is clear, we had to sell LS, it is also clear that we want to go far in all four compitions, thus needing more options, which is why I would like Bony at our club, he would get us 15 to 20 goals, doesn't get injured, and has stated that he wants to play for us, he just got a couple of goals in the World Cup, the price is right, and he def would be a plan B, anyway, I trust in Brendan Rogers . ynwa .

11 Jul 2014 10:40:32
Can I just post a fair question?

Why when we sign a player do people start saying why weren't other top teams in for him?

At this moment in time if we went for a player where all the top clubs wanted to sign him we would have 0% chance of signing them and we would end up with no player.

What frustrates me more is that when we did lose out on the player we would then slate the transfer committee and Ian ayre who seems to be the cause of world war 2 and global warming at this stage?

If I'm missing something I honestly would like to know because at the moment I am just not getting this attitude?

11 Jul 2014 11:20:45
I agree with this post although I don't think too highly of Ian Ayre but I think we need to look at Suarez - why weren't all the big teams in for him and look at the success he became

11 Jul 2014 11:39:50
Which players are you talking about Shane?

I wouldn't say Suarez is the best example because we have seen why other sides weren't in for him.
The likes of Coutinho and Sturridge show us why it doesn't matter who else is in for a player.
I do think that after last January with Salah, the failure to land Konoplianka and last summer with Mkhitaryan questions have to be asked. Yes you can argue that we got on okay without those signings but I think the manner of our transfer dealings had to be addressed.

When we missed out on mikhitarion willian and even Sanchez three players who just chose other club's over us Liverpool were slated.

I've also read if emre can is such a prospect why weren't top clubs in for him.

Same with Lambert no one else seemed to want him.

And even lalanna who is constantly referred to as a one season wonder or a 10-15 mill player when he has been quality for years and Ross McCormack just went for 11 million!

Finally very few people question spending the same amount on markovic who has had 1 season at Benfica but he is going to be the world's best. and the people that do question it again are asking why did Chelsea not want him so there must be something wrong with him?

I would just prefer us to be happy with the fact that we are getting players especially ones with class and or potential!

Shane can't help but agree. It's the foreign are best syndrome again.

Re-name some players e.g.
Ads Lallaninho the brazilian sensation has just broken into the national side. He also has EPL experience. Last season he tore defences apart and captained his team to a very respectable place. He finished the season with 9 goals and six assists from mid-field.

People would be drooling simply because he sounds a bit Pele, and isn't English! Utterly ridiculous to have a pop over transfer fees, all English players are over priced! Doesn't change the fact he is a quality player bought as a experienced and ready for the first team.

11 Jul 2014 13:51:49
Top reply.

11 Jul 2014 10:30:48
Seriously fed up with reading the same nonsense from deluded fans on here, 'we need to sign World Class players', 'we should be signing Hummels, Sanchez, Reus', 'we shouldn't be selling our best players'. When have Liverpool ever gone out and signed the creme de la creme of world football, when have we ever been trying to sign the best player/s in the world, competing with Real and Barca for their signatures? We never have and hopefully we never will, I love Liverpool the way we are and the way we have been! WE MAKE STARS! Always have and always will!
Who was Keegan before we signed him, who was Rush, who was Torres, who was Mascherano, who was Alonso, who was Suarez, Arbeloa (not world class I know but still moved on to real), Owen, McManaman (not signed, I know, but nurtured by us), the list goes on and on? They were talented players who were not the finished article, who we took a gamble on and nurtured their talent and turned them into 'World Class' players! Unfortunately when you make 'World Class' players, other teams take note and want to sign them, and as has been the way pretty much since football began, signing for Real and Barcelona is pretty much the pinnacle of a footballers career, and virtually none turn it down!
Yet for some reason so many of you numpies out there think the club is being poorly run and that we will slump next season because we aren't signing these supposed 'World Class' players!
The signings of Can, Origi and Markovic could prove to be complete and utter disasters, and if they are you will all come out of the woodwork and criticise BR for signing them. But they could also prove to be masterstrokes if they fulfil their potential and turn out to be the next Schweinsteiger, Thierry Henry or Christiano Ronaldo, I bet if they do none of you will be complaining and saying BR should never have signed them! But the fact that so many of you are writing them off before they have even kicked a ball for us and before you have even seen them play properly is pathetic!
We are not and never will be Real Madrid or Barcelona and I am glad of that. I fell in love with Liverpool because they are Liverpool, I love the way we do things our way and I don't want us to turn into Real or Barca! Support the club. Support the players that wear the Liverbird upon their chests!

Fair point, but, while I understand the clubs limitations and the fact it still isn't easy to attract 'World Class Players' it seems since the Premier League era began we have been losing our best players eventually, never being able to fully continue our good runs. What I'm saying is for where we want to be we need to retain our best players and add other players, when needed, to continue our success.

11 Jul 2014 12:00:32
Spot on my man Scarface

11 Jul 2014 09:43:13
Hi Eds

Thanks for all the info, read this a few times a day but rarely post.

Do you guys see Teixeira getting much game time for us this season, maybe in the cups, or is he one that is earmarked for a loan? Who else is available to loan? I live in Brighton now and would love Sami to get a few of our youngsters down here.

Thanks
Ross

{Ed002's Note - It is difficult to say what opportunities Teixeira will get - perhaps something in the early rounds of the league cup. Only now will the club be starting to figure out loan options - we will need to see what happens.}

Id like to see Jordan Ibe more in the team,

Eds does it look like he will be or is he looking to be loaned out?

{Ed002's Note - It is very early to say about loans but Derby has shown an interest in taking him.}

11 Jul 2014 09:12:18
Ed001, what is your opinion on us signing Wilfried Bony? Do you think he is (1) the best option out there and (2) the type of player we should be going after?

Personally, I think neither.

{Ed001's Note - 1) No 2) No. But he is a very good player, it is just I don't see how he would fit with our team. I wouldn't be upset if we signed him, just not convinced we should be looking to add him.}

I agree, I like him, I think he's a good player but I don't want him.

11 Jul 2014 11:37:54
Exactly my thoughts. Bony, and now Remy are good players but in a way we already have similar players in Lambert and Sturridge and I don't see Bony or Remy adding anything extra to the team.

It is really strange to me that we are not going for a creative forward.

11 Jul 2014 07:30:53
My opinion. Do the scouts of Spurs just follow what we do in the transfer target market.? If you read the BBC gossip pageS AGAIN today AND other medias it says LFC are after X and so are Spurs. LFC look to up their bid for Y and Spurs hold an interest. Spurs are looking to knock LFC off the interest of X LFC have upped their bud for Y but Spurs are willing to match???

Do they not have good enough thoughts on individuals without having to find out what other teams are planning to go after?

11 Jul 2014 08:36:39
Spur's fans could make the same point too.

Or maybe its spurs are shopping in the same market as us so the press constantly link us with them for signings its a bit asinine to think baldini and mopo are sat arround reading the daily rags going lfc in for him maybe we should bid too although it does seem like every player were linked with spurs are too maybe its levys new masterstroke to save a few pennys he's hired the water gate burglars to nip in to ian ayres office to steal the scouting files and his after lunch hobnobs move the furniture around make him think he's going nuts and make some scandelously low bids for players pause for thought

They are desperate to be us, to have our success.
Apparently copying is the best form of flattery.
I like the way little Tottenham try to be a big club, makes me smile

Well they were certainly interested in bony before us well as far as reports go and loveren is probably because of the manager. apart from that we are on a similar level in terms of buying opportunities with spurs. the same way man city real Madrid and Barcelona get linked with a lot of the same players

11 Jul 2014 04:25:33
I'd be happy if we signed Wilfried Bony, a powerhouse striker that can score goals, and prior to joining Swansea he scored 31 goals in the league for Vitesse so he knows about scoring 30 or more goals and with the chances lfc creates he'd do wonders just need a quality winger to pin in crosses plus the danger he'd provide in set pieces with his aerial ability.

I live in Swansea and at the start of last season after watching Bony in pre season games I bet my mate that he wouldn, t get into double figures in the premier league. First half of the season my bet looked a cert, but the second half he was superb after getting to grips with the pace of the prem. I had to pay out ( but his goals kept us up). Not sure whether he would fit in with Brendan's style

10 Jul 2014 23:29:35
First of all great work eds and fair play with the info for months now that Luis was going to leave even though the abuse for this was unreal! Just a quick question do u expect a striker in to replace Suarez?

{Ed001's Note - I expect Rodgers to prioritise a wide forward and a left back first. So probably not, at least not this summer.}

11 Jul 2014 08:18:25
Is the wide forward Markovic? or would you think another may also come in Eds?

I like Rojo at LB

{Ed001's Note - it should be Markovic, all being well.}

10 Jul 2014 22:41:32
Hi eds. Was wondering that if we get a large sum upfront for Suarez. Could this be used for the money Seville was asking upfront for a deal with Moreno? Would we still be interested in getting him. In my opinion he I still the best left back that we have had any serious link with.
Thanks Craig

{Ed001's Note - no idea sorry.}

11 Jul 2014 02:36:33
I can't wait for llalana to have an amazing season for us just so he can shut up all the critics on here. You should be happy the club are willing to invest this much money into players, especially when they are taking what I perceive as a smart approach to the market. Honestly, if Liverpool don't make the champions league next year (even though I hope they will) it won't be the end of the world. League table position and cup titles are nice but I enjoy just watching the team play every weekend. Let's just get behind the players and manager and let everything else take care of itself.

11 Jul 2014 04:02:05
I love this post.

With you on that, hope he settles in to our system quickly and shuts up the moaners

With you brother.

Me too. The beauty of football is not knowing what's going to happen. Just enjoy the ride as we all did last year. Lallana doubters can doubt . They just don't get he's a major signing. Look at the company he was in for goals, assists and chances created last season in the toughest league week in, week out. And if he did that getting subbed every game he packed it into less time on the pitch! Last season we got a great start, built momentum, had few distractions and had the best player in the league. So it's logical that we will find it tougher this year. Let's see how the team that thrilled us last year copes. And before a ball is kicked just chill out. Stop worrying about what other teams are doing. Support the manager, players and team we have. Sermon over!

10 Jul 2014 23:44:39
Didn't we look at signing Lovren, and Bony before they signed for Southampton and Swansea? why didn't we buy them then, when they were half the money being asked now? I hope we do still buy them as I thought then they would be good signings and still do, they will make us stronger, go get them Brendon!

Because it would be a gamble. We gambled on Aspas and others last season, Swansea and Saints gambled on Lovren and Bony. Sometimes gambles paid off and sometimes they don't. Less of a gamble is buying someone who has already proved themselves in our league, but that does push the price up.

BTW, we gambled £22m on a player with no EPL experience and he's yielding us a return of roughly 3-times his cost. Chelsea gambled on, for example, Shevchenko and lost a bomb, United gambled on (amongst others) Veron, Kleberson, Bebe and got them wrong. But they certainly got Ronaldo right.

We can't win em all.

Often do that. Could be wrong but I thought Bony had a trial at LFC?

It can be frustrating, but I guess at the time he they didn't fit or a target higher up the list was signed?