Liverpool Banter Archive February 11 2012

 

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11 Feb 2012 23:43:13
sky have an agenda,and are affiliated to Talksh te.STOP talking to them Kenny!And lets have an ex LFC player(so kenny cant get in trouble)point out Hypocrisy of Taggart=Cantona,Smehical.Keane.Because balance needs addressing here/Its ridiculous how people seem to readily forget-when Manc U involved

Talksport is owned by UTV, not Sky.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:43:08
right first of hand shake ?

if you are on the receiving end of a 8 game ban and the gob s**te that got you a ban in the first place is expecting you to shake his hand and call it quits ! wake up and get in the real world. if it was me i would have ripped his hand of and shoved it up his arse.

ferdinand and evra first half if luis suarez wouldnt have used his head and got out of the way would have had a broken leg tonight, nothing gets said about that does it. ferdinand was lucky himself that he was not injured.

utd are not only dragging the league down but they are trying to do it to liverpool to. and every half witted journalist in the country is jumping on the band wagon.

dalglish is the right man for the job and cause suarez wont be bullied into submission he is demonised. racism is a nasty ugly thing and should in a ideal world never be used, but you shouldn't cry wolf neither. cause if suarez was guilty where is the police involvement in the case.

golden slumbers

Thats because a court would just laugh at the evidence against suarez.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:39:49
Just wondering does anyone know is there anywhere I can get a fixture list showing what channel our games are being shown, Got Espn free with a digital pack, was hoping they have a few of our league games, I know they have the fa cup game against brighton, checked there website could only see what was on in february, Cheers lads

Yes liverpoolfc.tv/fixtures

Its on the fixture list on liverpoolfc.tv

Len

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:37:57
KK do a taggart,STOP speaking to Sky.Their shocking

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:35:36
you have to wonder ..did suarez lie to daglish about this hand shake. if he said from the start that he wouldnt then im pretty sure the pfa would have scrapped it. like last week. time will tell. kev07

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:31:35
Anyone else feel that Kenny has been hung out to dry here?
By the board and im sorry to say Suarez. And before anyone jumps on my back, i love my club and i support Suarez.

KNEE JERK

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:31:13
Hey Eds,
Did anyone notice in the sky interview with rooney after the game, the suarez song was being chanted wit racist b**tard instead of luis suarez being sung....i dont think it could have been coming from the terraces because it was so loud and clear, and i dont think it was the liverpool team singing! It definately happened because i rewinded on the sky box to make sure! just wondering did anyone else hear it, and where can i see it again on the net?

KK

I think it was from the utd dressing room, from what I heard. Tossers the lot of 'em. Apart from Valencia for some reason, don't know why, but he doesn't wind me up as much as the rest of them. How weird is that? Nick.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:28:40
Need to vent;

Evra is a lying little cheat with a bad attitude. He is hardly an angle.
Rio Ferdinand is a narrow minded person who has had his own troubled past.
The general media really are against us on this one, its plain to see, I cannot understand why there has not been more public condemnation of Evra's behavior?

But worst of all, Ferguson is a meddling, evil, hateful and ignorant little man. I cannot understand how he is allowed to chat such unsettling rubbish constantly and made out to be a saint.

Utterly disgraceful string of events, I personally saw very little wrong with Suarez. I hope he shrugs this off and just gets on with things, I don't blame him for feeling that the world is against him here. I hope justice is done asap, and we finish the season on a high, but regardless - I am fully backing our whole team to be a title threat next year, and to tear United apart in the process.

I know the general media wont like it, but they're going to have to shut it when we get through with heads held high and without evil meddling in others business.

We're better than this crap, so lets all keep our heads down, get on with things and get back on top.

Agree 100%. Nick.

Clearly you've been living under a rock for the last six months. Liverpool have done nothing with their 'heads held high' regarding the whole Suarez saga, so to say you're better than that is untrue.

#ags 19

Bottom line no matter how much you hate Evra and I would love to punch his lights out suarez was in the wrong he should have shook hands and got on with the game all he did was wind up the scum to put in the extra effort win the game and ultimatley Evra has had the last laugh and suarez is seen as the bad guy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:24:09
hi eds , I bet you this night has turned out to be as busy as the transfer window nights, except no Is aguero coming to pool ed questions and assumptions. Eds are all quiet, is this the calm before the storm? to be honest I do understand your quietness at the moment but later on I am still curious on your opininons please. It is becoimg a sensitive subject, how unfortunate.
hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - I thought Suarez shouldn't have played to begin with, to avoid this hysteria. It does no one any good, though I really don't see why such a big issue is being made of the non-handshake, it just doesn't seem all that important to me. Unfortunately the media were always going to find something to focus on which could stir controversy, even if they have to manufacture it.}

My bro was at the game Ed mate, in the Stretford End. He told me he dosn't give a flying f*ck about handshakes. All he cares about is the result. Which he is only to happy to share his happiness with me, with about 20-30 texts.Typical Manc my bro, no football knowledge and his spelling is terrible.

Have to take the rough with the smooth and concede, we were awful today and they were the better side.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:18:12
HEY LFC FANS

Bored with the suarez evra crap

The fact is...lfc management need to tell downing..either be a winger and TRY to cross, or take someone on or watch ryan giggs videos otherwise just leave!
As much as I'm happy we bought I can't defend his performances anymore

Secondly I didn't expect to win today but I expect more shots from liverpool and not just pass all day at the back
I think we get a bit lost in the final third
Hopefully investment in that area soon

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:11:11
I was wondering, when Rooney was receiving his man of the match award i could clearly here some people singing a certain song about Luis. When we returned to the studio there was no united fans there, so was that the United players.

Slur Alex The Hypocrite


sweetcorn

It's because they film the interviews during the ads straight after the match when United fans would still have been in the stadium. Please stop looking for things to accuse us of, it's your club you should be looking at.

#ags 19

I was thinking the exact same thing. Roblfc86

It was just a thought but i thought we were only away for 5 minutes at most for ad break and the home fans are let out and long gone. i think and believe it was the united dressing room, i have been around that stadium and my recollection is that the area from where the interview is taking place is too far away from the noise of the fans. the dressing room is quite close, did from my memory happen before when something was happening when the players were actually singing a terrace song...... can someone confirm it as i am not sure who and what it was relating to.

finally, i am not grasping at straws, but Evra is a vile man who cannot use a racist word as it makes him sick, (youtube vid says different) he bought the french national team to there knees and at the time i felt he did pull his hand down.

nothing will be said because Alex will cut his losses and not speak, Man u make sky so much money they are too scared to question him, i have sais this before and will repeat it now, if it were not for twitter there golden boy would still be hiding. they threaten the media and bully the prem league and fa even about ref selection.

that being said i believe we were not going to win when we seen the line up, we were set up not to lose, Carroll and bellamy should have started at the expense of downing and kuyt, if united have a weakness its against teams that attack them.

sorry rant over

sweetcorn

 

 

11 Feb 2012 23:09:26
do you know ed how ajax fans will act towards evra {Ed001's Note - I wouldn't have thought they would have any issue with him.}

Who knows Uruguay have said they are going to rip him to pieces though

Speaking of Ajax, I'd say Suarez was well use to getting stick, those matches with Feyeneord are fairly tetchy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:54:43
All evening its been about Saurez not shaking hands with evra, hardly a peep about evra's antics at the end. The shaking hands is between them both but the incitement at the end by evra could have sparked a fight between the players and more importantly the supporters. Lets see what action the FA or the police take. And that knob Rio, he said he lost respect for saurez well Rio does that mean you don't respect your brother? and which manager in the premier league could get away with condemning a player from an opposition team and not get blasted? Answers on a post card. Also we need someone on the pitch that inspires encourages takes control organises and leads, Mr Gerrard time to stand up as your team needs you.

Evra rightly complains about being racially abused, Then takes abuse at Anfield just because he complained, then he can't celebrate a win over those who abused him for doing nothing wrong? Get over yourselves!

Sir Alex x

No, mate Evra was booed, not because of his skin colour but because he is a c@nt. United are not paragins of virtue, so get over yourself.

KNEE JERK

No one begrudges him celebrating a win with his team mates. It was the skipping around like he was in a Judy Garland film that got my goat. He reminded me of that kid at school that nobody liked, but continued to delude himself. It was cringeworthy to be honest. Add to that he was obviously doing it to get Suarez to react, it also makes it sly and underhand. It was wrong on so many levels. It's days like today that make me so grateful I'm not a man utd supporter. Nick.

We also will not be taking any morality lessons from a football club, who's squad members include Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs, Patrice Evra and Rio Ferdinand who as we all know have disgraced the game on and off the pitch them selves.

We will not be taking any morality lessons from supporters, that turn up at a players house where his wife and child live and make all kinds of threats if he signs for city. And these are the same fans who were chanting they are going to kill Suarez, no doubt turn up at his house where his wife and kid live. Yes of course we cant generalise fans in such a manner can we.

KNEE JERK

Is this this person sir alex x really patrice evra. He is continually trying to stir up trouble. In the united match at Anfield evra started by waving an imaginary yellow card at Downing. He then continued with derogatory remarks about his sister and South Americans and also made an offensive remark to the referee when given a yellow card (which should have resulted in an immediate red card) then spoke on FRENCH television instead of to the British press (incited by the real sir alex) stating that Suarez had used the N word ten times. I know what the N word is and from what I have seen it was NEVER used. Today there was the non-handshake which I think can been translated either way but evra looks straight into the Television camera as if to emphasise that Suarez was a fault. His reaction at the end was not celebration but an attempt to incite Liverpool players and fans. IT WAS NOT CONDEMNED by holier-than-thou Ferguson. I still believe that he is the person most responsible for the whole overstated affair.
Dutchmal

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:48:55
i agree with the majority of people on site that there was nothing wrong with luis suarez not shaking evras hand.
But i am from Barnsley and a few years back one of our players Iain Hume was elbowed in the head by Chris Morgan and hospitalised and nearly died now the next time these two played Hume shook his hand, he could have just got it over with and stopped the unecesary agro around the match and not given the media more fuel
Kanos

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:41:38
A big question has to be-did Suarez tell Kenny he'd shake his hand?If so,do feel sorry for Kenny,fighting all the flack

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:40:18
funny Fa do research to see if Anton will shake Terrys hand,and pre game handshake withdrawn.Yet today hysteria for a man standing by his principles.Aptly named=Fa cos they know and do fa in correct manner at all

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:38:10
Now I told you to do something else this afternoon didn't I? I knew you would feel all angsty by 2.45pm!

When I suggest you sholud watch a Disney film, or go to bed, or watch a betamax tape of old Liverpool, do it next time!

You won't feel so bad the following day.

Anyway, Liverpool were outclassed today, 2-1 being a very flattering scoreline.

"King Kenny's" signings were superb. Downing, Henderson, Adam, Carroll, Bellamy and Enrique were just too brilliant. Shame Stevie G was unavailable, oh wait, he was on the pitch I'm told!

Luis Suarez... so he decided not to shake Evra's hand. So how did that benefit his colleagues and his club away at Old Trafford? What a dope!

Seems to me he put a self indulgent, self serving gesture to massage his own ego, in front of what was good for his club. However, Suarez is the type of player that becomes a Liverpool "legend" these days, which is sad, but what do I know?

I am only here to help you, so take note of my words!

Sir Alex x

You ask what do you know well ill tell you not a lot
soul man

Your posts got boring months ago Alex.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:36:18
Good evening all eds and lfc fans, again I think since we live in a free country, if any person decides against a hand shake with another there should not be a problem.

I did not think the way the sky reporter was adamant on pouring oil on the fire was correct, while it was very clear KK was trying to fizzle the temperature out by saying he had not seen or did not know about certain things.

It is a shame that educated people as these reporters should be, do not have any common sense and dignity when reporting by not being biased, and trying to convey the story from two sides.

If the media was fair when Fergie said Suarez should not play for lfc again the reporter should have asked, '' Is this situation not similar to the cantona one years ago? ''

I think Lfc, and KK need and should have all of our support and once again matters should be dealt with the Liverpool way, behind closed doors.

No self shame in Evra or maturity for jumping in Suarez's face at the end, when we beat them at Anfield none of the manu players were subject to any abuse, that just shows you the difference in class between the two clubs. Rooney was no better by trying to make tings worse by saying all evertonians will be happy for this victory roday. The whole philosophy in that manu club and the no morality and hatred they are taught to play with is woeful. He wants to make the problem bigger by thinking evertonians will come down to his level, he is after all the infamous TRAITOR to everton, WHAT A BUNCH OF SCHIZOPHRENICS manu are from top to bottom.
hibsylfc

How you can describe Liverfool as classy is beyond me! The way you, as a club, have handled this whole Suarez situation is appalling. Booing a player for being racially abused isn't classy either.

#ags 19

Booing is a form of banter, which was expected at the level of discrimination that Suarez was put through and his family. But to dance and jump like evra did is undignified and immature. We have more class, because our managers never stir up crap in front of the media, or threaten people or point their fingers at people as your fervid does. Which I can start by saying for example when he called the very same ref today in the game unfit, remember? Knock us off our perch, so and so should not play for us and many many more silly comments. Of course you have no class!
Hibsylfc

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:25:50
Just after watching the premiership and I have to say I completely agree with John Giles, slur Alex will always defend united to the heigh and Kenny the same for us.

The Pfa, the fa, both managers and 2 players should have sat down and agreed this is gonna happen, literally shake on it job done. Apparently Evra told Slur Alex he was going to do it today, what utter balderdash, this should have all been agreed during the week before, no excuses.

Regarding Slur Alex's comment ref Suarez, have to agree with Gilesy again, you can't be making wild statements like that about other teams, concentrate on your own


Rio Ferdinand says he lost all respect for Suarez hence he refused to shake his hand, 2 wrongs don't make a right.Shimples


The whole of the world was watching the match today were more interested in what preceded the game than the actual events of the game, united won fare and square, I am over that.


The onus is on the FA here, Gordon Taylor as head of the PFA should have ensured that everyone sat down and agreed what was going to happen.


I hope Eds I have been balanced as possible here

Rebel_Red

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:22:47
Reality check boys given all of the circumstances would you have shaken the hand of that horrible little man (would have used other vocabulary if not in public forum).
I certainly would not have done.

Derek

No, i would not shake Suarez's hand.

JWalk

Why do you hate Evra. Because he correctly reported racial abuse? Scousers showing their class as usual...

#ags 19

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:20:11
Some of our so called fans calling for Suarez to be sold and the King sacked are a discrace. Also all these fans of other teams like Arsenal, etc we don't care what you think of us so crawl back under your rock or let's have some proper banter about football rather than coming on our site and slagging off our team without knowing the full facts. Also if Evra had said what he said to Luis about his sister and family I wouldn't shake his hand and especially not if hed lied about me. The rest of the results went well for us today so let's go out get top 4 and win both cups to shove in the medias face. Rio misses a drugs test and cheats on his wife, Rooney costantly cheats on his wife, kicks, elbows and spits at players, Giggs cheats on his wife with his brothers wife, keane ends a career and laughs about it, and Cantana karate kicks a fan in the face all fine by that pathetic excuse of a man slur alex. But somebody refusing to shake your hand and that's a discrace? LMFAO let's get behind our team, if your not
With us your against us, we don't need fans who aren't behind the team so let's show everyone we are the best fans in the world and SUPPORT the team!
JFT96
Smithy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:17:25
Can i just say what a fine and unbias and impartial job the eds do! {Ed001's Note - thanks.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:16:04
RE:unsportsmanlike conduct

I heard professionals shake hands, amatures don't shake hands. If Luis Suarez wants to act like a amature, then the club should fine him for weeks wages.

Its better if the club displine him now and get it over and done with. It is internal matter that the club should act on rather than let the FA or Media play out.

Kenny should of said, the club is finning him and lfc will deal with him. Leave it at that. LFC needs a manager that will instill some discipline

Their sure are some limp wristed people these days. Why should Suarez start pissin about when Evra clearly lowers his hand. He ain't paid to shake peoples hand. Get a grip a weeks wages,what and donate it to a charity of Evra's choice I suppose.
Jonson

And you're basing your argument on 'I heard professionals shake hands, amateurs don't shake hands'? WTF? Maybe if you're a professional handshaker! Professional footballers get paid for playing football, not shaking hands. You're in the wrong forum mate. Hand shaking and waving associations have their own site. I suggest you visit theirs.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:08:56
Did anyone else think we sent out the wrong people against man utd. The back line looked wrong. Kelly and Johnson would have been better at the back.

It was a game for men and not boy's. I wouldnt have played spearing for this kind of game. Gerrard could have played his role.

I would of played bellemy at the start for this kind of game instead of downing. Just because he can give it and knows how to get at people.

Carrol would have been better against a unfit rio and weak Johnny Evens.

Luis Suarez should been allowed to play free

Bellemy Carrol Kuyt

Suarez

Adam Gerrard Henderson

Johnson skrtel Agger Kelly

The main work would have to be done by bellemy and kuyt on the counter.

Once again the management lost us the game and Suarez didnt help much he just stoaked the fire

Angry Red

Ye cant count ye got 11 men and no reina

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:02:17
Hey Ed. This great response to the KK resigning rumour (which I hate even to give credence to) is the TRUTH WHOLE TRUTH. All at Man Utd, especially fergie are worried now that KK is back and they and Sky and the F.A have all got an agenda against us. We must all keep faith. Anyhow please read said response: The mancs and ferguson have done a great job in trying to force one of the best players out of the league, i honestly think the whole situation has been pushed so far so that they try to de-rail the regen of our great club, they know were on our way back and trying to remove our main threat would you trust any of them? especially when it comes to us.... the main problem is how KK is handling it in front of the cameras, i love kenny but its turning more and more people (and the fa) against the club.

This is hilarious... do you actually beleive what you are typing?

paints a real picture of just how deluded some 'pool fans are.

God you realy are deluded.The FA Manchester United and Sky have an agenda against you.Why would United want to force any of your players out of the league-Liverpool are not that much of a concern to us as they are not title contenders nor will they be in the foreseeable future so what players you have doesn't concern us.

I just don't understand why all you scousers think we are worried by King kenny(he is a muppet) being back at your beloved club.Because lets be honest he has done a brilliant job since he has been back.Yes you are doing well in two cups but then you always do well in 1 off games but look at your form in the league-19 points behind us already.So like i said King Kenny is doing great!

Marky Mark

Cannot believe what I've just read! Surely even Liverfool fans can see this is deluded rubbish!?

#ags 19

3 posters above. If your not worried about us why are you on this page?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 22:00:59
Luis Suarez is a disgrace, says Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson

Sir Alex Ferguson branded Luis Suarez a "disgrace" for refusing to shake Patrice Evra's hand before Old Trafford match.

"Suarez is a disgrace to Liverpool Football Club," . "He should not be allowed to play for Liverpool again. He could have caused a riot."

Kenny Dalglish said in an interview: "I think you're bang out of order to blame Luis Suarez for anything that happened here today."

Suarez posted on Twitter, said: "We lost and we are sad because we have made a big effort... Disappointed because everything is not that it seems..."

SAF:"Racism is an important issue and football has come a long way since the days of bananas being thrown at John Barnes." Evra "kept his dignity" by offering to shake Suarez's hand, Liverpool should 'get rid of' Suarez - Ferguson

I wonder if SAF is looking at buying Suarez?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:54:47
Kk got side wrong.Aint big fan of Carroll but honestly shocked he didnt start.Given de Geas propensity for panic of crosses.and even Rio and co,aint happy in air.Have to say its time Downing stood up,he doesnt get involved,he hides.And what Hendersen brings to team defeats me.Enrique had a shocker,but lads been great,allowed a wobble.Wouldve left fullbacks as Kelly rightback,and Johnson leftback(Unless contract,forbids?!)Johnson again good going forward.dodgy defensively.But back to midfield-there lies our problems,Stevie aint what he was yet(and maybe wont be again)Its far too static,slow,no drive,movement,creativity.No physical commanding presence,Or box to box marauding players.Lotve similar passers who get crowded out,through lackve pace.At top level.has to be addressed.Anyhow now got to beat Arsenal and Chavski at home.And no more stupid dropped points!

I fully agree mate. Been sayin since October that Henderson may be a player for the future, but certainly isnt good enuf for now (altho at 21 should b there or thereabouts), downing...really don't know why we bought him, never really done anything for me n at 20mill - never. He is severely lacking confidence, with so much at stake, why play him? Got slated constantly. After a slow start, Adam seemed to be finding his feet n range, yet he gets dropped, same with Carroll, not worth 35mill but he never set the fee, fact he was injured as well baffled me as to why we signed him at the time. Got the makings of a class centre forward tho n was starting to look the part last few games n he gets dropped, after causing havoc last week for utd. Dalglish makes no sense at times with team selection. As for a box to box player, we have got Shelvey who is far beta than Henderson in my opinion, has self confidence, puts his foot in n looks a lot more of a threat going forward. Bellars shud have played as well, tho in all honesty we wer dire today, but do wer utd.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:52:36
just my opinion but i don't think either player had any intention of shaking hands today,
suarez looked to hold his hand out but with out any real commitment to evra.
and evra looked to deliberately avoid the hand until after suarez was passed then made a meal of it for the cameras.
i can understand both sides if evra was racially abused then why would he want to shake suarez hand,and if evra made it up the same can be said for suarez after it cost him 8 games.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:50:48
did luis Suarez get out of the wrong side of bed today?

what a childish baby, he should of shock hands with the man that insulted his family and branded him a racist.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:44:03
All in all i think 2 1 against utd is good

2 games dominated by us

1 by them

And really why does everyone care if he didn't shake his hand? its up to him and he didn't react like a child when rio snubbed him unlike evra...

IrishRed90

We should have won today. Its all Kennys fault. It was all set up wrong from the start.

The game shouuld have been built around luis,

After watching the handshake saga many times I honestly believe Surez was set up by Evra and Ferdinand, It looked to me that they had agreed not to do it beforehand. If this constant berating of Surez continues I can see the outcome will be a civil case brought by Surez to try to clear his name in a court of law....Bobbinred

Thats what I think Surez (and maybe LFC) should do at the end of the season. Evra must be made to pay for this dragging of our great club through the dirt from his lies

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:33:56
just heard on rte tv Ireland that the fa have said that the ref can write a special extraordinary report if he feels there was anything he feels was extraordinary. Is there a rule that you have to shake hands or is it just seen as the right thing to do

It is not compulsory

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:29:11
that hypocrite alex ferguson saying suarez should never play for liverpool again what about kung fu cantona he should mind his buisness and shut up. Red Kenny

Ferguson is pissed off as probably as is Kenny, that there was a pre match agrreement that they would shake hands and it did not happen.

What did he say about french man?>

Not to mention Rio failing to turn up to a drug test, then cut off his hair. Then the cheating players who sleep with grannies and the brothers wife.

sweetcorn

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:29:08
Just a couple of points on todays game, I'm not moaning because I think we deserved to lose. 1 ferdinands tackle, even if he did have a little bit of the ball it was a tackle from behind and his follow through has taken suarez out when he was through with a 50 50 chance of getting the ball or charging the keeper down. 2 Paul scholes made 4 bad tackles 3 of which he apologiesed for but not a word from the ref because it is him. 3 the chanting of 'you racist b@@@@@d from the man u dressing room when the interviews were going on after the game were a disgrace and man u should be done for it.

Ah yea but f all e said in media again.and ratboy was shouting redknapp down about pen decision with that t at fletcher smirking smugly alongside

With regards to the Ferdinand tackle, its a tough one ... sending a player off, especially in a match that big is a BIG decision and changes the game (and maybe for united the title hopes) personally i think the ref got it right, for the simple fact to send someone off you have to be 100% sure, if you are not sure then you cant do it, and i dont think the ref was in the right position to be sure if he made enough contact with the ball
Where the chants from the dressing room? I thought it was the crowd waiting outside the tunnel?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:28:26
Rio Ferdinand misses drug test,Ryan giggs gets his sister in law pregnant and paid for an abortion,Eric Cantona physically assaults a fan,roy keane openly admis to trying to end a players career,schmeical accussed of racism to Ian Wright,and luis suarez is a disgrace for not shaking someones hand!Are you for real Fergie?! And gordon taylor,Clarke carlisle,Sky news guy-take your pick.You'ld do well to remember all this,in your"balanced",reporting!!!

I totally agree with you - well said.
It just goes to show that maybe Ferguson is a good football manager, he is a small minded vindictive person. He has a very short memory and certainly some of his players have also been a disgrace both to their club and England.

Be patient lads,The Murdock empire is about to collapse Fergie's empire is on it's way down. Forget about all this Surez buisness because it's all to do with discrediting the club,,,Rise above it support the team even more make Anfield a caudren, to hell with the doubters and the bias Media, we will get through this LFC WNWA....Bobbinred

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:18:55
Right, Suarez should be sold? Kenny should resign or be sacked?

Listen, Are ye all mad!? Suarez & Kenny are adamant that they're correct since day 1 and I support their claim until it can be properly proved just like terry and that won't happen because I believe Evra has told a porkey or two in this..

People are slamming Kenny for defending his player (s) yet when Woy last year failed to defend Torres when Fergie called him a diver ye ripped into Woy.. This site has many hyprocrits..

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:23:57
Not a rumour ed's but a statement! To the so called fans who were/are embarrassed because luis suarez never shook hands with evra! All week everyone has been saying I wonder if evra will do This or do that, while no one cared to ask if suarez would want to shake hands with a person who has lyed, and brought his reputation into dispute! Well the answer was NO he didn't, not a law he broke, didn't commit a crime (though u would of thought he did).and are own fans asking for kenny to resign or even get the sack! U disgust me! Proper fickle! Last week after getting to wembley, knocking the mancs out the f.a cup and beating wolves, he was the best thing since slice bread! WIN, LOSE OR DRAW, proper fans support the team, players and most importantly the manager who came to our aid last season when relegation was a possibility because of his love for liverpool and what it stands for! Evra is a snake! Ferguson is a hypocrite! We are liverpool and we will stand by each other! You'll never walk alone! I think some so called fans have forgot this or are they really liverpool fans! DHH L20 KOPITE!

I agree mate,the whole situation has been blown up by the media.just because he didnt shake hands does ppl are saying its the race issue WHY?.its two ppl/players who dont like each other.would any 1 shake the hand of a person they dont like.its nothink to do with race/ fair play.even the rat neville said.ppl say hes draging are name threw the mood,how?its the media turning your heads

ste liverpool

Actually, Kenny said clearly in an interview that Suarez would shake hands.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:21:34
Fergie: Evra retained his dignity with the offer of a hand shake to Suarez?? Any dignity disappeared with his actions towards Suarez when hand shake refused, and the guys actions after the game, c,mon the guy has no dignity at all.
Fair play to Neville who understands the intensity and passion of games like today, and accepts and UNDERSTANDS that if players don't like each other why should they exchange hand shakes?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:19:14
Today's team selection by Kenny was poor. Downing might as well not have been there and Henderson is not yet ready for this type of game. For all his effort, Kuyt showed his limitations.
We played like the weaker teams do at O.T. We let Scholes and Giggs pass it around without putting pressure on them high up the park.
Today's game has gone a long way in showing that our summer buys have not improved the team a great deal and much more work is required in the summer.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 21:12:16
The players are MEN. They should all GROW UP. Suarez should have been aware that if he refused to shake Evra's hand this would put Kenny a difficult situation.
On the other hand Evra did not do himself any favours by behaving the way he did at the end.
Football is the loser today.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:55:37
Is it just me or was it evra that refused the handshake. if u watch the lines its actually evra that drops his hand and suarez keeps it at the same height and just moves on cos he thinks evra isnt intrested. then when it back fires on evra because saurez hasnt bitten to blankin him and has a go at saurez to make it look like it was him that caused the issue. if u look closely im sure u'll agree. sky even pick up on it at the end of the program.

You are spot on.
check out scouserevo on twitter. The tweet that says "even more compelling evidence".

I've taken my own stills from the Sky footage and show the missing Evra hand even clearer.

I can only assume that Suarez put his hand out and there was no hand there so moved on.

Suarez tweeted "Disappointed because everything is not that it seems..."

And Evra's evidence was believed? Truly shocking!

Yes mate and all these so called fans complaining about suarez, go support alex fergason.RedTurk

As anoher poster said, when I fist saw it, I thought Suarez snubbed Vera, but after watching it again, I would have to say, Suarez didn't move his hand away one bit, it was there for the shaking. I'm sure Ferguson is writing his speech about how Vera won't ever be playing again for acting so disgracefully!

Totally agree with you mate. I originally posted the seeing the same thing on here as saw a lot of posts about Suarez not shaking evra's hand. The fact is that just as Suarez was coming along, Evra drops his hand and just holds it out so limply, it would have been clear to saurez that he didn't want to shake his hand.

It is a moral dilemma for Suarez - do you shake the hand of an alleged liar and effectively admit you were in the wrong to the world or do you stick to your principles because you believe you are 100% innocent still?

I personally think suarez shouldn't have shaken his hand and that too much is being made of it now by Man Utd and the media to stir things up!

Romeo red

RedTurk - I don't think you're in any position to start telling people to start supporting other teams.

What I would like to know is whether you would give Andy Carroll this level of support if he was in the same situation.

JRG

Exactly, Suarez' hand was there for the shaking. Evra's hand was scratching his a**e!

Here RedTurk, get off your high horse mate you're constantly in here slagging off Herderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll and now because people dare voice there opinions which aren't the same as yours they should go support another team, your a massive hypocrite mate.

Haha after years of negative cr*p, redturk has decided to SUPPORT Liverpool

cozinoz

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:54:23
Hey Ed's,

You guys have been pretty quiet on the whole handshake business today. My first impression was that Suarez snubbed Evra due to the reaction of Evra and Ferdinand. Having seen some of the Youtube footage I am not sure Suarez did the snubbing. His hand appears to have gone on a consistent line all the time, there was no retraction of his hand, whereas Evra did. But that was only from one angle. Therefore it is not conclusive either. Have you guys any thoughts?

Evra was in a no lose situation today, shake the hand of Suarez and he is the bigger man and snub him and he is standing up to racists.

Suarez was in a no win situation, shake the hand and be seen to apologize and not shake the hand and be seen to continue the feud and that he is racist.

Suarez seems to believe that Evra lied and got him banned. A friend of mine who is a well thought after Defence Barrister read all 115 pages of the Suarez report from the FA. He says that the chances of convicting Suarez would be very low, that some of the assumptions made by the panel would be unacceptable in a real court. He also believes that Liverpool's lawyers were very poor in how the handled the whole case.

If this is the case, I can understand his snub. In a similar non-football environment, who would not snub somebody that may have got you in work trouble by lying about you. I know I would, I probably would have an Agger to Ferdinand moment. Would you really make a show of pretending to respect the other person.

Finally i think the handshake between teams is pathetic, you never see it on Rugby pitch or other sports at the beginning of a contest, only at the end. The beginning of the match is not the time for showing the opposition respect. Only in the politically correct world of football does this happen.

Just to mess with the heads of the FA I would like to see LFC perform a scouse Haka just before kickoff to You'll Never Walk Alone?

Orrin

Great point about Evra being in a no lose situation and Luis being on a hiding to nothing!

The Robin

Perhaps we should have handshake technology

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:52:38
I have come on here as i am sick of hearing all this injustice this and injustices that about luis suarez.

Today evra and suarez could have put this all to be bed by shaking hands which evera tried and that clown refused, why?

I will tell you why Kenny Dalglish has been a nightmare in this whole situation, ever since that has happend he has been blinded by defending his oplayer even tho the everyone else is wrong and he is right if there was no eveidence why didnt they appeal the decision, I will tell you why because ine of the top QC in country who was on the pannel said the eveidence was laughable and invited liverpool to take there appeal to court as they would lose.

The problem started this week when he says the player should not have been banned what sort of message does that send to suarez?? On friday he insisted that suarez would shake the hand and he should have made him carry this out as he is his boss and this matter would be over.

Now this situation could have been rectified by Dalglish coming out after the game and pointing out his dis approval with suarez and that would have been that but alas no he cantr even do that he makes out like he did not see what happend and then moved on to a rant about sky tv I mean what is he going on about now the man has truly lost the plot.

I agree Alex Ferguson should not be saying things about players from other clubs but Dalglish needs to stop this now as blinded Liverpool fans who usually are some the most educated fans you come across belive and agree with some the stuff he says when he is handling this situation so badly and it has to stop.

I the Liverpool owners had any sense they would move suarez on and warn Kenny about his future conduct as I would not like to see him moved on as he is a lengend of the game.

Lets hope he will see sense and draw this matter to close by condeming suarez for these actions instead of hiding behind blaming the media.

Tom the Gooner

Well, well a gooner preaching to LFC fans.........whats that noise I hear when you play Spurs??? oh does that make you all nazi's???

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Idiotic, wrong, and wrong. Are your elated to that person Trev the Gooner that was posting yesterday, or are you that stupid that you forgot your name. Nick.

Seriously? Are you taking the p**s?

No i disn't forget my name - TMac you must know - but I am fed up with other clubs fans preaching to me about the rights and wrongs at MY club. If Tom wants to comment then fair enough but lets get one thing straight here, how many times has Arsene "not seen" the incident, yes plenty as for going to court, what court finds you guilty on probability? right none! As for the noise comment, any website you go on now and the media in general think all LFC fans are racist and they are entitled to their views but they best make sure they are squeeky clean before they start accusing other people, and gooners know THEIR misdemeanours! - TMac

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:49:07
Suarez shouldn't have started.

Ozone

He was too fired up,and emotional.in the wrong way.Not a criticism of lad.just wouldve drwn some sting,if he hadnt of started

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:47:00
IMO I hope kenny steps down in the summer with a cup under his belt,he came in helped the club get back to normality but all this were in progress I keep hearing and reading is rubbish were slowing slipping again,we don't look like winning anymore and were's the oomf and the desire gone cheers pk

Everyone has an opinion. But who is this superstar manager that you are pining for? Mourinho? He comes with massive baggage and needs £200m for transfers. So who else? Who would improve our team so much more? A lot of people were talking about Villas-Boas before KK got the job. Where would we be now with him? I guarantee lower than 7th. Be careful what you wish for.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:38:18
Gary Neville spoke at half time saying there was nothing wrong in not shaking hands with someone that you don,t like. Now he was a strong union man with always something to say. I thought that he would have criticised Suarez but did,nt. now Gordon Taylor has stuck the knife in again relating it to the race issue. He shook hands with other players so where is the race issue. It was, and still is a problem between Suarez and Vera . If Taylor cannot support all of the players in his union he should shut up. As for ferguson,s comments lets wait and see if the F.A. Have the balls to conduct an independent inquiry into his behaviour and his comments. I think we will wait a very long time. Robbie

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:35:30
Throughout the racism affair Suarez and Liverpool have maintained his innocence. He was found guilty on the balance of probability and because the FA decided to ignore subtle linguistic context and take Evra's word over Luis'. This despite Evra's unsuccessfully playing the race card previously and admitting he started the exchange with a sexual insult aimed at Luis' sister. Given the way this has played out I feel aggrieved at what has happened and support Luis' right not to shake Evra's hand. The clubs stance and approach, which has been roundly condemned, might have something to do with the way the media portray us I.e. Suarez demonised and Evra's lionised, racist comment at Oldham game splashed all over the papers but Man Utd fan banned for racist comments goes largely unreported, supposed neutral parties like that f*ckwit Gordon Taylor constantly taking any other parties side but our own... I could think of many others. Let's get behind Kenny, Luis and the team. If we, their supporters don't get behind them no others buggers will. We've never had the support of the authorities nor the media and we never will. This is republic Liverpool. We should close shop and walk on with our heads held high regardless! Leave Evra and slur Alex to make tw@ts of themselves all on their own.

The Robin

Nice post mate.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:29:27
old whiskey nose has got a selective memory......schmeichal racially abusing ian wright.or has he forgot about that?

ste liverpool

Every red should bombard FA,and Sky and remind them of that convieniently forgotten fact

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:24:41
So whiskey nose says suarez is a disgrace and that he shouldn't play for us again and no doubt the manc loving press will agree whole heartedly tomorrow....so we sell suarez to appease them all. Then in a couple of years young Sterling, Suso, Coady and Silva come through and play well and offend whiskey nose so he again attacks and again the press back him and again we sell...........get the gist??? As a club the minute we start listening to other clubs managers and the press about our players is the day we are well and truely finished. We are LFC and we are loud and proud of that - Fact. Can anyone on here say they would have shook tjat little s**tes hand today? I don't think I would off if I'm honest if I felt as strongly as Luis clearly does over this issue..........incidently if Ferdinand hadn't been in the wau how many of you think the little s**te would have done Luis? - TMac

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:22:35
The handshake - Suarez should have shook hands, however Evra tries to make a point by keeping his hand down until after Suarez has past him.
Ferdinand was never going to shake hands, otherwise his hand would have been out & not one word in the media about Welbeck moving his hand away.
Ferguson should worry about his own two faced club. Suarez a disgrace for not shaking hands?? Cantona kung fu kick, Ferdinand drugs ban, Rooney swearing in the camera etc,etc,etc. He is a drunk, senile old hypocrite!!
Sky will back him & his odious club to the hilt.
I'm not usually a fan of Jamie Redknapp but well done to him for being the only person trying to support Liverpool about the whole thing in the face of the media's blindness
Robbo7
PS What was the point of having Darren Fletcher in the studio, a block of wood might have been better

Yea fletcher sat snearing at Nevilles semi aggressivness towards Redknapp,Who was isolated as presenter was ripping into us aswell,Redknapp tried best to balance it-for once

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:22:17
Not sure if you guys realize but steve mcmanaman nickname is macca and on tsn2 here in Canada macca is always what they call him! I'm sure that's way to obvious and im sure macca isnt steve mcmanaman but maybe that's where macca got his nickname from!
Cheers

Well so is gary mcallister macca could be him 2

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:17:40
Anybody else think Rooney looks like a turd that's been dropped onto a barbers floor with that new hair?
thought we were poor today, Enrique had a rare bad game and we perhaps played it a bit safe. Bellamy and Carroll are starters now. Can't blame kenny, on another day the tactics would have worked perfectly. Suarez looked dangerous at times but had no support up top.

MIKEY
(be the bigger man and shake hands)

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:14:03
What is the big deal about the handshake. If you don't like someone you shouldn't be forced to shake their hand.
Evra was being given the choice all week weather to shake Suarez hand. Nobody thought to focus on weather or not Suarez wanted to shake Evras hand. If it was the other way round and Evra chose not to shake Suarez hand then there wouldn't be a big deal because it would be expected and why? because Evra is seen as the victim of racial abuse, however there are two views in this and Suarez saw himself as the victim of being unjustly banned as he believes he was not being offensive to Evra.
so I believe that Suarez had every right to not shake hands with Evra and his decision was justified.

N.I Red

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:12:24
Just checked the table guys,and it seems that despite the loss today,we are not any further behind in the race for fourth place. Unless you count games left to play.
Still 4 points! Never have to look too far for a positive! WelshBoyDave

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:12:09
Can't believe how wet some folk are wow. Suarez didn't shake Evra's hand,why should we get shut just because of a spiteful assehole like him. As its been pointed out Evra only made a big deal out of it after Suarez had passed him. His hand was hardly their to shake now was it. Evra showed what he's about at half time and at the end of the game. What f***in clown.

Jonson

Hernandez and Rafael joined in with the spiteful little s its jumping around at the end

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:09:17
Lets get this right,suarez doseint want to shake evras hand, its a free world i wouldint shake someones hand that i dont like and remember evra called suarez some bad names also,which were not made public,just because he is coloured mr evra, suarez is being slaughtered,it takes two to tangle its all one way traffic here very unfair.Today evra ran after suarez down the tunnel to abuse him and start a 6 man row with police involved and then he dances in front of his face when the match is finished in front of the manc fans.Then security see what evra is doing and grab him and tell him stop igniting the fans in a tense situation and guide him away,in all of this suarez is being quite and not raising to the bait,lets get this right evra was a disgrace and ran around like a man possesed today starting trouble in his own backyard,when he was at anfield he was like a baby and a little good boy. Evra you dont have me fooled you done the same in the french camp for your country at the world cup,i feel sorry for suarez who is true to his feelings....LFC DUB

 

 

11 Feb 2012 20:06:31
I was at the game today, in the Utd end. I have to say, although I understand why Suarez didn't shake his hand, I wish he had as it would have changed the concentration of the game and we could have moved on a little. Instead he has made us no friends.

We were very poor again today, I like the 2 subs KD made however it changed very little. Dalglish needs to employ a much more attacking mentality!

Having said that, I do expect Evra to receive disciplinary action, what he did was out of order and wasn't required and he knew full well what he was doing. Mr Ferguson also, comments were not required. The media also failed to pick up on the Utd fans singing about killing Suarez...

Dalglish though really needs to get a grip of the situation and should have done. He also needs to learn you can't sit back and hope to win a game 1-0. Having been to this and the Spurs game, I also think crossing has to be worked on in training!

Glen Johnson was shocking today by the way, truly awful and Martin Kelly if your reading KD should be playing!! I hope though the club moves on from this silly racism row, I don't believe Suarez said all the stuff Evra did, but its too late now, things aren't going to change, we need to start making friends again and getting a better public image.

On the field we need to attack more and lack ideas, and its beyond me how Dalglish played Suarez over Carroll today when Carroll for me in recent weeks has been our best player!

CH

You were talking a bit of sense until you said that Big Andy has been our best player!

You've been drinking more than Slur Alex!

LJ

How can you single out Glen Johnson? He was about the only player with an attacking threat!!

Well who has been better recently? I have been at all the recent games! If not our best then one of the best he has really started playing well! And Johnson was at fault for 1st goal and on the left they had space all game, but you couldnt see that unless you were at the game! He wasn't tight to his man! Amiteddly far from the only poor one though, Enrique lost his early form and downing was shocking to name a few, no one had any ideas really!

Better players? Bellamy, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique. Big Andy is getting there but he has been nowhere near the best player.
All we can hope is that he keeps on improving. I'm sure he will.

LJ

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:59:43
I think we should stick it out with Suarez... he will come through and we can see he loves the club. Him not wanting to shake Evras hand is a personality thing... He probably feels outcome was so unjustified and Evra exagerated things...

also for Old red nose telling LFC to sell him- stuff him what Cantona did was worse (8month Ban) so why didnt they get rid of him...

stick with Suarez, with Chelski and newcastle losing and arsenal playing spurs next week- with all newcastle, chelsea and arsenal still to play us we have great chance at champions league footy and with the team post-sub we defo should win some silverware!! YNWA

Redish

With a team of high moral standings such as Man Utd, you would think they would have got rid of Keane when he maliciously ended Alfie Haaland's career. There are so many occasions over the years, Rio's missed drugs tests, Keane again chasing the ref around the pitch etc. Its laughable that some Utd knobs try and still take the moral high ground.

Saying that, i still think that Suarez was stupid not to shake Evra,s hand. Rio was stupid not shaking Suarez hand and Evra was stupid to try and confront Suarez in the tunnel at Ht and also his over the top celebration at the end which had nothing to do with winning but plenty to do with inciting the crowd. I hope the Fa look into his actions and come up with the appropriate punishment.

The Irish Rover

Good post.But you just know f all will happen re Evra at end

Whisey nose just wants sarez gone cos he knows hes gonna be at the heart of the lfc revolution. viva la suarez

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:56:43
Why are we all focussing on what Sky and Ferguson wants - the handshake.

And not commenting on what Evra did at half time (Skertl turning into a real leader) and at the end of the game.

The bit that disappoints me is we are being played (and a bit like the team today) and are always one step behind. That is the only reason why i think we should drop it now until the end of the season even though everyone who has read all 144 pages knows that Suarez was hard done by - both should have had a ban.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:55:34
remember folks. suarez did not shake his hand because he is a racist, but because he felt seriuosly wronged by him. would you shake someones hand if you really disliked them.
I truly believe they should have shaken, but i also believe that at no poin t did suarez actually withdraw his hand, whereas i belive that evra put his hand down aftter the previous handshake and did not raise his hand in time to meet suarezs hand, by which time suarez had moved on in the belief that evra did not want to shake
Also what reason do rio and welbeck have for not shaking, are they racist - no doubt rio will tweet some nonsense about the events which will be replayed in the media.
I woudl love to hear if people agree with me.
Red First & Last

Utd and fergie are trying to force suarez out giggs rooney and cantona looks at the things they have done but utd brush it under the carpet

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:53:58
ah cmon we wer very poor 2day reeli s**t.
On paper the team lookd gud but its a diff story on the pitch.
I dnt even abuse these players like some guys but sum of the players are nt gud enough.
Kuyt tries hard but he is past it, slow bad touch slows evryting dwn. Poor at everything attacking
And downing was nowere to b seen shockingly s**t.
Henderson is young but slow in Decision making confused dude. Even at Sunderland he wasnt like a wilshere he mite become good but not great.
Carrol n adam hav improved n shud of started.
We still hav a good team need mor PASSION.
Play 4-3-3 with Gerrard Spearo Adam mid.
Suarez Carroll Bellamy upfront and width crosses from fullbacks.

F5.

Very true and honest,good post

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:52:21
Am amazed at how naive and gullible a lot of Lfc fans have been. You were advised by your opponent in a competition to sell one of your most potent weapon and you are going about it as if you have been given the best advise ever by someone that really cares about you.

Ask yourselves these questions
If the FA really cared like they did for Terry, will they have allowed handshake?
If it was Rooney that refused to shake someone will there be much noise about it?
When did Ferguson start caring about Lfc image so much so that he will advise to us to sell our best player but leaving the poor ones?
Did you listen to Rooneys comment at all suggesting it isn't as big as its been made to look, that it's btw 2 players?

Wake people, nobody cares more about LFC than our coach, the players and the board. Listen to them and support them.

Stop crucifying your own, it hurts greatly.

Wales

Did AF play Cantona after he kicked a supporter, and say he was a disgrace to the club, double standards.... all he wants is to get every other clubs players/fans in the UK now to have a go at Suarez!
The Jazz

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:48:34
If this happend to a Manchester united player you wouldn't hear much of it? As soon as something dodgey happens at our great club its all over the media!

Always been that way mate.Even when we carried all before us.Manc u always been media darlings

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:47:51
 Evra is a prick, I've just re-watched the hand shake & you can see him pull his hand back as Suarez come across then he pulls suarez hand and looks towards the camera. I Feel this was a set up by Fergie and the scums, its clear to see theres a witch hunt against Suarez & Liverpool FC. I also heard someone say Manu players were singing (Suarez is a racist b**tard) if its true then you should be punished by points deductions. Now lets talk football Rio was a lucky boy he should've seen red twice, once when he landed on his big head and then that foul on Suarez when he was the last man, but the ref was scared to show a red card. Fergie is a lire!! Before the game he said hi didn't talk to Evra in regards to shaking Suarez hand but after the game he said he had a chat with him. So did you or didn't you talk to Evra??? 

MikeFCB

Love this post it was right to the point with no fannying about, Well said mate and yes evra is a BIG person !

Loved the Evra and Ferdinand collision, so nearly two pr*cks down in a heap.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:47:03
i am a man city fan, have been all my life, but i feel deeply deeply sorry for suarez. from the start he hasnt stood a chance of proving himself innocent, being found guilty with the only evidence being evras word. ive seen footage of todays game highlighting the fact that evra holds his hand back, much further back than it was for other players, and suarez takes this as a sign that evra doesnt want to shake his hand, as anyone would. i encourage you to support suarez, believe him, and leave this behind you now. continue supporting him on and off the pitch for as long as you feel he may be innocent. dont be swayed by the media which is so heavily reliant on united fans. CTID

Thank You.

MR EM

Liverpool fan pretending to be citeh, what next?

What a top man this poster is and hopefully fans from other clubs will see evra as he truly is from his sly actions today. Iv'e always been convinced evra will trip himself up because he's not as clever as he thinks and he's a hot head who lets his emmotions get the better of him.

The lad posting that is truly a die hard City fan. How do I know, he showed me this site.

He told me that he had just posted.

I am yet to see another City fan who has just posted about LFC on here ^ v.

Plus the Lad's me best mate!

Teezer

Guys a whinging antagonistic p ick.Was before Suarez race gate,will be after

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:44:39
I am an avid Liverpool fan, and I feel stomach sick after today. I am downbeat as most of us are I suspect. I really have to question whether there has truly been improvement on last year. We are supposedly better playing the 'big' teams:

Man United:
Home 0 - 0
Away Loss 2 - 0

Man City:
Home 0 - 0
Away Loss 3 - 0

Tottenham:
Home 0 - 0
Away Loss 4 - 0

I think that dispels that myth. We did beat a hurting Arsenal at home, and caught Chelsea by surprise. Otherwise, we don't look so hot against the big teams, except perhaps in the carling and FA cup, but realistically, who cares about those cups? Answer is lesser teams and teams trying to turn a positive spin on an otherwise disappointing season (ie. us).

Perhaps this is a year of the players getting to know each other, and the best is yet to come. If that's the case, the players should atleast be professional which Suarez is ridiculously not (and not just the racist stuff, but the constant whining over calls, kicking ball way, etc.).

I am most worried that Kenny is unwinding at just the wrong time. His comments on international television today were absurd. He wasn't aware of the handshake issue? C'mon! He can't just go and hide under a rock and everything will go away. I feel like Kenny is in over his head, and we are starting to see his non-smiling ugly side.

If we managed a win against Arsenal next week and a win at home to Chelsea, then 4th is ours for the taking. Am I dreaming or is this really too much to ask? Which 11 will be starting next game? Does even Kenny know?

Worried Red

What are you on about.

Liverpool 1 man utd 1, played them off park.
Man unt 2 Liverpool 1
Liverpool 1 man city 1, played them off the park.

Ozone

You want to take your nonsense about Kenny elsewhere you pr**k.

Ozone

Worried Red...this time last year where in the league were we, at least form now till the end we have a better chance!

Thoxe results are wrong

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:44:04
Can't believe some of the negative s**t I'm reading tonight on this site. Yes we lost and yes several players were very under par. We have played poorly and lost deservedly to the scum. Come on for gods sake this Liverpool side is working progress, Champions League football would be a massive bonus this season. We are in 1 cup final with a great chance of being in the FA Cup quarter Final. We will win silverware this season, not the one we all want but that will come in time. Lets get real Kenny and Steve Clarke are doing a fantastic job of building our once great club back into a force to be reckoned with. He still needs 2 years longer in my opinion and if any real red thinks he doesnt derserve the chance to do so then WAKE UP, look at what he inherited.

As far as whisky nose and that schoolboy Evra and thats what he reminded me of today with those antics after the game. I am so glad I am a true Liverpulian and could never be proud of such vile and twisted comments about our club and Luis Suarez after the game. We should not get embroiled in their bitterness or classless comments about our club or our players .The best way to answer the press our biggest critics and the scum is to just carry on the work in progress and once again be the team to beat. I could go and write all sorts of s**te and poison on the scum site but I wouldnt lower myself to their standards. YNWA COME ON YOU REDS.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:40:44
So ferguson calls for suarez to be sold and he should never play for us again ,suarez called evra whatever he called him and then refused to shake his hand ,ok not good but who the f**k does ferguson think he is ,moralising and passing decrees ,cantona plants both feet in a fans face is banned for months and is welcomed back with open arms ,keane ruins haalend and more or less laughs as he is writhing in agony and ferguson says nothing.what a sanctimonious one eyed,pathetic little man .no doubt all his lickspittles in the press and around the country will be falling over themselves to climb on the bandwagon ,what a mammary.

I wish I had written this. Well played. Spot on.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:40:07
Firstly a very poor performance today it has to be said and i believe we did deserve to loose as much as i hate to say it.There was a total lack of commitment,i watch uniteds wingers run riot and our mr downing to scared to run at anybody with the ball.

Secondly leave suarez alone if i didnt like someone i would not shake there hands and there is no law saying he had to,,, you should blame the fa cus i could see this coming and they should of had no handshakes until after the game like the chelsea qpr game.

lastly to all the reds saying hendo adam etc are no good, well nor was ronaldo at united for 2 years then he became second best player in the world, remember these are all new signings and it can take a year or so to bed into a team properly especially when you have so many signings its not like it is 1 or 2.

Oh yeah to all the manks wingine about suarez what about evras antics after the match, and what about cantona trying to kick a supporter in the face, far worse than suarez i fear

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:35:08
Can we all set up a facebook page against the Lazy Journalim at Sky sports it's there to see shamless headline making making storys out of nothing they are half the problem to most things with football with intense coverage of every situation
regardless of being a Liverpool Fan they are getting away with murder

K.O.B

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:26:08
So, lets get this straight, the media witch hunt goes on and on against our beloved club. Lets try and explain the handshake situation today. Somebody goes to the police over something i know i didnt do, the police take the other persons opinion and send me to prison for 2 months on the basis i probably did it. Then after 2 months in prison i get out, and a week later i have to shake the hand of the man that put me away, i wouldnt in a million years shake that man's hand would you?? and Old Whiskey Nose saying that he is a disgrace to LFC, didnt seem to say anything when Roy Keane was breaking legs, Keane Scholes Rooney Neville bombarding referees with insults and backing them into corners, Cantona kung-fu kicking supporters, very forgetful Slur Alex................Dom

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:18:39
Double standards springs to mind. Evra refused to shake Suarez hand at Anfield but nothing said of that. 

Suarez didnt play in the last meeting at Anfield..

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:14:55
is this time to call it a day with suarez? no one is bigger than the club and the publicity this race row is developing is harmful for the image worldwide of the club. plus he has to realise that although he's has feelings about the events with evra he has to put those aside for the good of the club and move on. he was wrong today in my opinion to not shake hands. he could have helped avoid a bit of the fuss caused today.

please dont get me wrong as i think when he has his mind set right suarez can be a world beater but over the last few months things have got the better of him and he is hurting this club at the present time? would it be beneficial in the long run to move him on and find someone with a better temperament who can score the goals we need?

opinions please?

If you feel bad about suarez not shaking hand with evra, why did the hand shake between QPR and chelsea players didnt take place isn't that against what we all stand for? no one is bigger than LFC but is terry bigger than FA?. I really wanna see if Rio Ferdinand will shake terry's hand or if given a chance will play next to someone who called his brother names. its only media hype and the media as usual has always been against LFC. i have a very gut feeling that terry wont be banned for 8 games and everything will be put asleep when his turn comes. Suarez is being made a escape goat in this incident, he has already apologized served his banned what else do they need. Daglish and LFC should stand with suarez for the sole reason that no one should call our player names or try to screw with LFC. why was there a tussle in half time any idea?. I thought luis was very well behaved today and why was evra dancing like he just won the world cup for France, oh sorry I just remembered he was the one who went against his country and and his coach. only manc scum will support a player like that

I do feel that Sky Sports have an agenda to paint the club in a bad light.Suarez feels hard done by at being given an eight game ban and being branded a racist over an incident when a hand shake after the league game at Anfield instead of accusing him of being a member of the Klu klux clan.might have stopped this press witchhunt.It shows the anger that Suarez holds against Evra,and it his not because of his skin colour ,but because he feels he has lied about what was actually said and how many times it was said.If I was told to shake the and of a person who I believed stretched the truth to get me in trouble,then I wouldn't shake his hand.I am seriously thinking of ditching sky sports.I would support a world wide ban against everything Murdock.

Micheal Mouse

Yes, I agree. NO ONE is bigger than LIVERPOOL. NOT EVEN SUAREZ!! he continues to damage the reputation of one of the worlds greatest sporting institutions! And Kenny Dalglish (my all time hero) continues to make things worse every time he speaks!

Follow up to my last post I did not release this thing about evra pulling his hand back, I will go back and watch it, if this is true I take back what I said about him.
G BOX

John Barnes insists Luis Suarez should never have been put in the position where he had to choose whether to shake Patrice Evra's hand on Saturday, and the former Liverpool winger says the media is to blame for the current fallout from Old Trafford.

Suarez sparked controversy ahead of Liverpool's 2-1 defeat at Manchester United, appearing to refuse the hand of Evra - the man who accused him of racial abuse earlier this season. As a result, United boss Sir Alex Ferguson labelled Suarez a "disgrace to Liverpool Football Club".

However, Barnes believes it would have been fake for Suarez to have shaken Evra's hand, and he is convinced that the media is chief culprit for inciting bad blood between the two clubs. In Barnes' eyes, United and Liverpool would have moved past the situation long ago had the media not persisted in keeping it in the public eye.

"I can tell you they won't be making a big issue over either of the Suarez or John Terry situations in other countries," Barnes told ESPN. "The reputation of English football around the world is not going to be damaged at all.

"I don't care if somebody shakes my hand or not. It's not a big deal, it's insincere, it doesn't mean much, they're shaking hands for show. I don't believe they should be put in that situation.

"We're getting carried away with a bunch of incidents here that, in the bigger picture, don't mean much. Football clubs have to react to it because of what we do in the media. The reality is if Suarez scores 50 goals and United win the league, it's not really important.

"We're making a mountain out of a molehill. We are not the custodians of moral value in the world, we think we are but we're not. There's worse things happening in the world, worse things happening in the country, everything should not be laid at footballers' doors."

someone with some common sense

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:12:46
The handshake aside I don't think we played well today, far to pedestrian. I posted a comment after Monday's game that we look a better side when we go at teams with pace. Downing looks completely lost at the minute, Enrique is struggling for form and Dirk, well he works hard but should he really play ahead of Bellers or Carroll. Now Carroll, I think the lad has started to show us a glimpse of his potential recently but dropping him ain't going to help him or us. We have 13 games to go and I hope KK goes for it in them, take the shackles off and lets see what a regular and balanced team can bring us, personally I'd like to see Carroll and Luis up front, wide men Bellers and Shelvey out wide with CA and SG in midfield............now to the "hanshake" it is clear to me that the s**te that is evra drops his hand as luis approaches and then makes an issue once he goes past, what did he want luis to leave his hand out waiting for him! then we have Rio deciding he shouldn't shake hands, but accordingly to that fat f*** Gordon Taylor that is acceptable 'cos he's showing solidarity - would that have happened if Pepe, Martin or anyone of ours would have done the same, I'll bet not. This pompous person doesn't realise he represents ALL footballers and gets well paid for it, how would he feel if LFC players withdrew their membership??? - TMac

Means as all footballers in every division pay the same £7 a wk subs and all the money Comes from The YOU GUESSED IT "SKY TV MONEY" he won't be that bothered

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:06:53
I am always supported all the players of our team regardless of their performance. We were poor and we can't control the ball. Downing is highly unanimous as steveieg, which could be his worst game of all time. And, we missed creativity of Adam in first half and we had lost it due to Tackles of Spearing. And, the team seems to had no tactics at all.
India Red.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:05:20
No one on wanting to buy any Newcastle forwards to night then!! Their value must of plummeted tonight!!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:01:03
evening eds ,fellow reds .just seen interview with that person taylor of pfa . i think luis and liverpool will get punnished again.but proves fa are anti liverpool cause he thinks luis was in the wrong for not shacking s**theads hand but it was ok for rio not to shack luis what is the difference . would you or anyone really want to go a shack hands with someone you feel has focked you over .and cost you money.and as for fergie if he does want his players insulted then maybe he should controll them a bit better .i watch the game with a manc fan and they were discusted with evra at the end of the game .trying to get luis to bite .credit to you luis suarez must have been very difficult .cheers eds psv {Ed002's Note - He doesn't work for the FA - he works for the PFA.}

Just watched the interview myself and he says they were on the understanding that a handshake would take place, if thats correct then both players must have agreed but I think what happen is that evra never look like he was going to shake saurez's hand so saurez didn't then evra at the las minute goes to do it and try yo make himself look good

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:00:56
"I couldn't care less about what people say or think about us, or what kind of person Suarez is, as long as we are winning".

Are you watching Bill Shankley? This is now a sad reflection of the once great Liverpool FC you made!

Don't be going spouting about Shankley!
When if he was in charge Suarez would of shaken hands or been dragged off by the ear before kick-off!!

Arguing over what Shankly would or wouldn't have said or done, like you're both the proud protectors of The Liverpool Way, and you can't even spell the great man's name right FFS?!

Sean

 

 

11 Feb 2012 19:01:40

12:45 Barclay's Prem Liverpool vs Arsenal
Saturday 10th March
15:00 Barclays Prem Sunderland vs Liverpool
Saturday 17th March
15:00 Barclays Prem QPR vs Liverpool
Saturday 24th March
15:00 Barclays Prem Liverpool vs Wigan

If we win these next four prem games we will be in the top four.
If Suarez believes evra is a liar then by shaking his hand he is admitting he is a racist, if he doesn't then by the media i suppose they say he still is a racist, the guy could not win regardless as to what he did today.
Fergie wants him gone because he does not want the up rise of the mighty LFC.
I live in Manchester the dirty scum b**tards are saying horrible s**t on facebook and in the pubs, im ashamed to live around here at the moment, funny thing is when they loose they are so quiet its unbelievable,

Paul the red.

If Chelsea win their next 4 games how will we be in the top 4? We've put ourselves in the position where we are relying on other teams results. If this is the case we do not deserve top 4 at the moment. We are not ready for that yet and it shows.

LJ

Look mate im not mystic meg, my opinion is if we win these we will be in the top four, its not a guarantee.
do you troll through looking for post you can hit back at with silly comments.

Paul the red

Give it a rest. We all hope that we win the next few games, but the teams above us have just as much chance of winning their games. We could be in the top 4, you're saying we will. We need to take each game as it comes.
Having an opinion is NOT trolling, so get off your high horse, Tonto.

LJ

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:48:48
Suarez and Dalglish bring shame upon your club and you blindly support them rather than condemn them. Shankly and Paisley would have shown him the door. But then again Shankly always considered the United job the biggest job in football. If only you were back Bill liverpool wouldn't be in such a state. But then again they turned their back on you. RFT

Silly little man you obviously support the correct club one that contains hypocrites and liars . Run along now

And your own fans bring shame on your club, every time Reina went behind his goal all he got was ''w**ker'' signs, two fingers and a pile of foul mouthed abuse, even a middle aged woman kept giving him the finger, what a disgusting bunch of low life you lot are, the club must be so ashamed. Now get back to your own side!

MR EM

So fergie backing cantona kicking a supporter is ok, fergie backing keane for finishing a fellow pro's career is ok, fergie backing Rio, Wighead and giggs for their misdemeanours is ok??? before you preach to us son check out your own history in particular since whiskey nose took over - TMac

No one considers the united job the biggest job . that club was made successful by a ex LFC player remember that. only fools will support united , fergie and evra.

Though i'd have wanted to see Suarez having that formal handshake with Evra, but I must say, what he did was nothing wrong too. He didn't shook hands with the person, he doesn't like, i'd have done the same, too. Things are being made out of it, as Evra tried to start this all by pulling his hand and then their manager trying to make the most of it, again.

And whiskey nose jock strap Tagart refusing to speak to the bbc, but no doubt that's acceptable.

Ozone

Kenny should do same with sky ozone

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:36:49
in general i support kenny's signings but i really think downing was awful today. Surprised he was so angry to be subbed seeing as he didnt seem as though he wanted to be out there. On another note I think we have signed too many CMs and not enough pace and qulaity out wide but this has been the case for as long as i can remember. (im sadly too young to remember the glory days)

Red23

Personally I think he was angry at his own performance -McMenemy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:41:38
watch the BBC sport interview with Ferguson....defo pissed as a newt....disgraceful......
That said Suarez should have been the bigger man today on behalf of the club.........not good all this bad press for the club whether the media hate us or not. YNWA JFT96

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:31:54
The players don't actually shake hands; the home players including the ref and linesman hold their hand up palm open and the visiting players file past and slap the hand kinda high five action.
Watch it back on sky and see where the ref has his arm/hand and De gea as you can see them clearly and compare it to evra who has his hand down, making it impossible to just slap his palm and walk on, he only raises his hand after suarez has passed? Preconceived certainly looks that way to me..
kidmillions

Evra shifted his his hand,with that I have no doubt. What a s**t starring person he turned out to be. What goes around comes around,of that I have no doubt.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:31:21
Anyone seen the picture of Evra refusing to shake Suarez's hand? If you repeat a lie often enough it seems that it becomes the truth.

Are you David Cameron? Then again I can't see Cameron quoting Lenin.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:25:40
Heartbroken matey because the clubs on the tv for all the wrong reasons an handshake that's all it would of took. If your not saddened by it I'm a bit surprised. How many time on a Sunday league pitch as someone shook a dickheads
Lyndon
*********
Don't be so soppy. It's a bloody handshake for Christsake, there are so many more important things happening in the world right now.

Why are the manc suppporting, over PC, sh*t stirring media making a big deal out of it? Because it gets them ratings and sells their sh*tty 'newspapers' to the simpletons out there.

Anyone getting upset over this needs to grow a pair of boll*cks, seriously. Since when did popularity and reputation win matches? I couldn't care less about what people say or think about us, or what kind of person Suarez is, as long as we are winning.

If somebody wrongs you, you don't have to shake their hand. Evra is a slimy little ratbag, he showed us that at the end of the match. Since when did we shake hands with people before competition anyway? Nonsense.

I'm looking forward to the day that arrogant, self-righteous, wrinkly old tw*t Fergie puts his slippers on and retires. United won't last 5 minutes.

And who on earth names themselves 'the red devils' and accompanies it with a drawing of the devil on their badge. Hmmm.

Adam

Wonderful stuff Adam.
kidmillions

This is the very reason why your club is now the most hated in the prem and goes to show your mentality as fans to still back the player... even your manager could not actulally comment, we shal see what he says in the next few days. Suarez is a thug, he bit a player at his last club like an animal and now the race row. It seems the fans are making him bigger than the club.

Toonal

Adam thanks for demonstrating what liverpool supporters are like, You don't care what kind of people support liverpool as long as you win. Shankly and Paisley would be so proud of you.RFT

Evra is a slimy little ratbag, no doubt, but he won the argument and made suarez and liverpool look bad because Suarez was too stupid to play it smart.

Sometimes you have to dance with the enemy even if you don't want to and wait your opportunity, the petulance of Suarez is not how to win its how to lose as was demostrated today.

Kenny is to blame before the game he should have asked suarez was he going to shake the hand of evra of not? If suarez felt he was not able to shake evra hand Kenny should not have started suarez and saved suarez from himself. Kenny should then have started Carroll or Maybe even Morgan, whom he could have substituted after 5 minutes and brought suarez on, no handshakes required.

Blinko

There was no need for it; total lack of class and at the end he looked a complete fool. As good a player as Suarez is this is the latest in a number of incidents which make him out to be a very nasty and very arrogant person

Agreed. All this nonsense re: a handshake. We should be more concerned how badly we played.

Chuck Norris

No, b*ollocks to not starting Suarez. He is one of our best players.

Who cares what his 'intentions' are. I want to win the match not keep everyone happy with namby pamby politics.

Adam

Our reputation is just as important as how we play

Jim - Black Belt Jones - Kelly

From an above post

No, b*ollocks to not starting Suarez. He is one of our best players.

Who cares what his 'intentions' are. I want to win the match not keep everyone happy with namby pamby politics.

Adam


Then your sir need to wise up.


The Liverpool players were clearly taken aback by what happened and it affeted their play on the pitch.

It has nothing to do with namby pamby politics.

Grow up and and leave the macho BS to the WWE.

IF you think the hystronics helped the liverpool players play well, think again, they played very subdued today, why was that?

Blinko

Watch it jim - Black belt jones - Kelly you'll have Mr Haan after you and he'll beat you with his metal hand.

Blinko - No you SIR need to wake up.

There is no evidence to suggest it affected our play at all. Even if it did, it could quite easily have affected the United players too.

If you want to win matches you play your best players. If you want to try and keep the peace and keep everyone happy, you leave Suarez at home. We want to win matches. Therefore Suarez plays. End of.

Adam

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:22:07
Hello Ed002,
I don't if KK should resign or not, I'd rather he stayed at least one more season. The truth is, that today LFC played awfull football. Gerrard, Downing, and Enrique who again got us in trouble, were the worst players on the pitch, as well as Glen on the other side. It embarrising that Giggs who is ten years older than downing is faster, fitter, and more dangerous that Steward. I don't know what will come, but after Monday and today's game LFC does not deserve to get CL spot. Another rebuilding of the squad in the summer? What is hard to understand is the fact that last winter and spring LFC played better football and scored more goals. The defence today was not up to EPL standards, and in the second half they didn't even want to run after the ball. Suarez's behaviour should have been better. I'm very sad and dissapointed after today's game. Let's hope that the cups and a fight for 4th place is not over. But the lads need to start playing better football quick. Cheers.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:21:07
Before making any comments about suarez not shaking evra's hand, watch it again and you will see that Evra has his hand held out high to shake the lfc players' hands but as soon as Suarez comes along, evra's hand drops and is held out limp. Watch the video of it again, and then decide for yourself whether it is just Suarez who has an issue. At least Suarez is man enough to make his feelings felt publicly, not like Evra!

LOL YOU CLOWN... HIS HAND WAS NOT THERE TO SHAKE. Blind, player bigger than the club. Manager has no media skills, still stuck in the 80s

I noticed that too.

Square tomato

Unfortunately we still have 5 European Cups......

LiverBird

You mancs are very quick to forget the cantona kung fu kick and rio not having his drug test and fergie wants suarez banned for not shaking the french blokes hand haha but you deserved to win today give u that cheers mick

Just wanted to clarify that I ain't a manc. Im lfc all the way through. The point i am trying to make with my original post about Suarez not shaking evra's hand is that it was clear that Evra didn't want to shake suarez's hand in the first place, Suarez clearly noticed it and blanked him. He hasn't done anything wrong. Just wanted to make the point as there were a lot of previous posts by lfc fans saying that Suarez should have just shaken his hand. I howeve believe that Suarez was in the right not to shake Evra's hand - Evra made it perfectly clear it was a false gesture!

Romeo Red

As for being called a clown, the only clown is the poster who added the post calling me one. It's pretty clear that:

1. Your not an lfc fan
2. Your an idiot

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:20:59
people still cant get the suarez/evra affair ...at the end of the day fergie will do anything to stop lfc getting back to where they belong and this season it shows how far he will go to disrupt our club ...i wish kenny would come out and just tell mr ferguson to shut his big mouth ....how dare he tell us what we should do with an employee of ours ....this just backs up the fact of the unbelievable power this piece of doo doo has ...he can just say what he wants when he wants and goes unpunished ...he created this situation ...it could of been diffused straight after the first match between the 2 clubs ...with a shake of hands and a misunderstanding of cultures ....but no ...utd wanted to make a meal out of it .......they say fergie is the greatest manager ever dont make me laugh ...you would of never of seen shanks or paisley stoop to the disgusting tactics that fergie employs to disrupt other clubs .....hes not fit to tie shanks shoe laces ...ynwa

Couldnt have put it better mate one of the best and most accurate posts in ages!

My thoughts precisely. Perhaps you will join me in making an official complaint against Ferguson to the FA.

Red Owl

Ive been complaining for the last 10 years red owl ....but what can we do .....lets just wait ...fergie wont be there much longer ...then we can get our party hats on and the nation will be like a royal wedding day ...lol

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:14:51
Think that both Suarez and Evra need to grow up a bit. If my 8 year old son behaved like either of them I would cringe, but these are meant to be grown men!!
Fergie needs to take a look at himself before saying who should and shouldnt play for Liverpool. After all it wasnt that long ago that one of his players jumped into a crowd and attacked a supporter. Was he a disgrace to united? Should he have played for united again? Glass houses and stones come to mind.

Brian

And also a certain player not turning up for drugs test....did he have something to hide? You bet he did!

Well said

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:09:53
Saha scores TWO for Spurs... Harry Redknapp has the Midas touch!!

Maybe so but if he touches Saha in the wrong area he'll be out injured for six weeks!

Well least he realised he needed a CF who can score.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:08:55
Old Thierry Henry has given victory to Arsenal. and he has scored against Sunderland who were at home and who were in great shape and almost top of the table form-wise. KK should ponder about that.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:03:55
amazingly we are only 4 points behind 4th spot and we've got the top 3 teams out the way whilst we have home games against Arsenal & Chelsea. Still all to play for.

Arsenal next 3 games us and Fulham away with Newcastle at home
Chelski next 3 games west brom and man city away with stoke at home

We've got Arsenal home with sunderland & QPR away

I still fancy our chances as long as kenny starts Bellamy!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 18:03:19
We started off the season with good pass and move football but just not putting our chances away, but now we seem to worry about what other teams are going to do instead of them worrying about us. Kenny knows all about how to scare teams from his playing days so hopefully we can start to go at teams again and have them worry about Liverpool. Stewart downing is really starting to worry me, I always support our players but he looks scared of the ball, doesn't know where to run when he hasn't got it and doesn't look prepared to work for the team. I would love to know what he was muttering when taken off today but all I would say is watch your performance back tonight Stewart and you might think differently!

Gally

Your right Stewart is down in the dumps and I'd say that's what muttering on his way off . Its been a bad year for the whole team but as the year want on the pass on move football went out the window . I think one big signing in the summer take the limelight off the rest .The only thing wrong with that is would a big name come to us playing like we are and if yes would he preform any better not everyone can hit the ground running like Torres did and Suarez is doing

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:49:07
I Love Kenny, but Mourinho is the only one who can bring the title back home to Anfield

Yes, sadly I think you're right. I love Kenny but Jose is the Special One! Unfortunately he's said he would never manage Liverpool!

Non sense.........He is particularly what we do not need.......

LiverBird

If Liverpool asked him he would come he would love the chance to manage us I think they should pull all the stops to
Get him.dave

Martin O'Neill

Mourinho gives as good as he gets, more importantly he gets the job done, Kenny has experience but Mourinho has done it all in the last five to six years, he also knows how to deal with all the cloak and dagger stuff prety well, besides he's the only manager thats had Fergie chewing more gum than his big mouth can hold

All you muppet's callin for the special one or even O'neill! when Rafa was here last time he was playin politic's with H&G he also showed what those cowboy's were really about! before they came we won the CL 05 the FA cup 06 and another CL final in 07 the only thing that let's him down is his man managment 9 time's out of 10 he get's his tactic's right! i'd rather have Rafa back! if Dagger's walk's or pushed! no name Warrior

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:45:39
I couldnt careless that suarez as not shaked evras hand. I hope that we have a siege mentality this season and the suarez and liverpool publicity has been bad this season so lets treat the media like they treat us. Kenny stands up for this club and thank god we have him. Nice clubs dont win anything so if we become hated then thats great.

If we are getting under peoples skin then brilliant. We are already at wembley and still in fa cup. Fourth is going to the wire but i expect us to finish fourth.

Lets all march on with kennys army with king luis banging them in. As i say there are no friends in football so lets look after ourselves and forget the rest.


Mighty reds

I would hate to think that would be the Liverpool way!! The club is better than that!

Agree, plus give it a couple of months and this will all be forgotten , the media will find something else to get there claws into

Well said pal a true liverpool fan i couldn't said better myself! theres alot of so called fans on here crying wanting rid of kenny and suarez i think they should dry there eyes and go join the prawn sarney army! im with you pal well said lad!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:39:20
Emmanuel Frimpong via twitter : "Liverpool supporters saying Evra celebrated like he won the League..Am surprised They remember what that looks Like LOOOL #KingKenny"

Cheeky Git!

Who's Emmanual Pingpong?

Never heard of him, sounds like a table tennis player with a speech impediment.

He's the guy who plays for the club that's never seen a European cup

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:35:27
So we lose 2-1 away from home, in a highly charged match, to a team that are current Champions and second in the league.

And that means Kenny Dalglish is an idiot, half our squad should be sold and we are doomed.

You know what. I think this is the last time I am visiting this site. Deleting the bookmarks and forgetting the login. I've got other interests and more positive things to do.

I love Liverpool and love the game and I'm old enough to know your character does not show itself when you win, its how you respond on days you lose. Its called being an adult and realizing football is a game of love that is meant to make you smile. There are good days and bad ones.

This site was once full of debate, banter and the odd jest.

Increasingly, what I see on here is a lot of ignorance, hate, spite, lack of charm, an obsession with money, quick judgements, a petulant demand for instant glory and a massive lack of love and support for the Club, its history, current players and fans.

If this is how some of you support your family, work mates and friends in times of trouble - god help us. And when you are having a bad time, god help you.

Liverpool LFC deserve better.

YNWA

Drew

So.

Well up untill yesterday manutd was a team on the down with no real quality and lfc was the team for the future and they were gonna beat the crap out of utd but today after losing u r sayimg that u lost to the defending champions.....and so on funny isnt it

Post of the day. Simply awesome and pls don't leave, we need fans like you to stay here. I am also feeling very sorry that now there are two group of fans for the club and the club also need to fight off this criticism let alone from opposition like media, FA and others.

AJ

Well said Drew. I could not have put it better or more succinct. You are spot on my friend.
Best post today by a country mile and probs the best for a long long time.
The Goatherder
JFT96

The guy with the second comment...Why dont you sign your post if you dont have belief in what you are trying to convey in this forum....

If you support your club then it should be through thick as well as thin

LiverBird

Well Liverbird that guy's name is Bitter in Manc disguise

AJ

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:44:06
I'm just watching the rugby (for the first time) Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about over a hand shake, these guys are literaly punching each other and nobody cares LOL

On another note, it's games like today that make you realise just how important Lucas Lieva is, we need him back!

MR EM

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:43:42
well behind Luis, he gor 8 games, so why shake the hands of the Manc F***.
FACTS for all you Liverpool fans who love Dirk Kuyt
56 touches
32 times gave the ball away
8 attacks he broke up to help the mancs
7 times he passed the ball forward, 6 times it was cut out.
What a player, and most of the liverpool fans like him because he works hard. There's been many times when he's not even tracked back to cover the overlap, very lazy. Playing him will cost Kenny his job unless he starts to watch the games and kick that man out our club.

Tell me more....haha....please do...ha...oh lord...go on...
TheRedEye

Chicken no head spring's to mind! and has done for year's!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:34:51
I have no idea what your problems are!!
We went to old trafford and only lost by 1 cheeky goal, ignoring the whole suarez thing. I think it was a expected result
4th place is still up for grabs! Arsenal and Chelsea have their problems and even Tottenham are due to dip in form
Kenny still has alot of work to do and downing has to shape up or kenny will ship him out

Stand by your King!

I agree 100%.....

LiverBird

These nagative fans are not any better than Manutd fans.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:31:55
On a positive note....at least we havnt lost ground on 4th (still 4 point gap) lets hope spurs do us a favour against Newcastle!
Just think.....were pretty average in all honesty, yet were still in the race for champions league....imagine when we do start performing to our real level....i still believe we can do.

Ryan.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:30:28
FSG minimum requirement 4th place.

No wonder Kenny so wound up in after match interview he knows time running out and does not appear to have the answers(team selection/transfer dealings/tactics)
A trip to Wembley means nothing at all,league position could easily end up lower than last season.

Derek

In fairness Derek, we still could've won that game today even doh we played badly, United two goals were gifted to them, Henderson with an assist for Rooneys first and Spearing giving the ball away 25 yards from goal for the second... If we dont get 4th place Dalglish will still be there next season, I honestly thought he should've started other players but thats what a manager does, he makes the decisions, the players he picked today are well capable of getting us the win but they under performed, Gerrard was terrible AGAIN, at one stage he was walking around the pitch not even looking to get on the ball... Dalglish was annoyed because he wants to talk about the game football wise, he doesn't wanna keep talking about Suarez all the time. We lost because we weren't good enough not because of a handshake.

Rocky

Rocky I really admire your loyalty but how were we going to have a chance of winning today they have got a crap keeper and we put him under no pressure you can never win a match without scoring more goals than the opposition we sat back showed no desire and put up one of the most passion less performances I have seen in over 40 years watching my team.
Passion in the tunnel and after the game and in after match interviews is very sadly misplaced.

Derek

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:29:35
Look guys IMO I think kenny has the clubs best interest at heart no doubt he is a red through and through, but I don't think he can turn this club around the players didnt fight or put pressure on man u, and against the lower teams he hasn't got a plan B to break teams up, mourinho can't put a worse name to our club than already is there we are becoming the most hated club so why not get the manager that is hated by most Jose mourinho he would put fight and wins where ever he goes fact, Jose pissed all of us off but he is a great manager that won't take s**te kenny dosent seem to know how to get the best out of them there is an improvement on last year buy that wouldn't be hard giving woy was twice as bad,dave

Loads of non sense from you.......

ManUtd played exactly the same way at Anfield as we played at Old Trafford today...

The first goal was plain lucky....could have gone anywhere but landed at Rooney's feet...

The second goal was Spearing's mistake but he is young and its part of the learning curve.....

So I dont see what do we need to be worried about.....Yes we dont like losing but there are bound to be a few rainy days while climbing up towards the summit.....Chill out......Go out and grab a drink.....

LiverBird

Liver bird, we have being building 20 years kenny was the past but I don't think he is right for the future get Jose he will get number 19 and who would bet against it.dave

First thing, you should sign your posts if you want your posts to carry any credibility.....

Forget this 20 years non sense...For fans like you
->the best player is always the player who is injured
-> the player playing for any other club is always better than the ones we have
-> the manager not our current one is always the preferred manager

If you are a true football fan, you will remain detached from all the hype which media creates for people who allow themselves to be fooled by them....

Today,
the tactics were correct
the team was correct

ManU got lucky to score the 2 goals.....So It was just a bad day at the office

LiverBird

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:25:14
Did anyone see Rafael da Silva ( height 5 ft 8 in), beat Andy Carroll (height 6 ft 3 in), twice to a header. Very disappointing the we had huge amounts of money at our disposal and we bought rubbish players.

Neostat

It's easy for the guy running (their fullback) at the stationary object (Caroll waiting for the ball to come down) to play leap frog and use the object as a launch pad to spring up.
Very surprised the ref did give us two fouls to be honest.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:22:22
I can understand suarez's frustrations but i think he let the club down today. Yes he scored a goal, but for the whole game his head wasnt right. He should have shaken evras hand and got on with things. The club has made their feelings clear and supported him and he owed us a performance today.

This whole affair is giving the club a bad name and kenny should have managed the situation a whole lot better.

I am not calling for any sackings, but feel we need to let the football do the talking.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:17:16
Stewart Downing: £20 million for 0 goals and 0 assists in 25 PL games (1749 mins) this season.

"King" Kenny can really spot a bargain, can't he? Haha.

Matthew...

2 words Matthew mate

'Oliveira Anderson'

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Dowing 1749 min 0 goals 0 assists
andeson 690 min 2 goals 1 assist

u say who is better

Whos better downing is worse

They are both crap

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:20:44
think suarez should just have shaken hands with evra ,just to put this whole thing to bed , that was my thoughts at kick off , but after seeing the over thetop antics from evra at full time shows evra for all his flaws to & there are many of the i.e failed claims already and all the french farse he woz the instigator in .lets just say the guy is a joke ,luis ynwa.

I think if you look again his hand WAS out but Evra's was recalled so Suarez thought forget it then and walked on thyen Evra grabs for Suarez to make it look like he was snubbed by Suarez. HK07

All these muppet's sayin Oh Evra dropped his hand! Luis had no intention to shake his hand! stop makin excuse's for him! just say it how it was! i love Luis but he has a bit of a bad rep and i cant see him bein here next season! no name Warrior!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:19:49
generally think that james mccarty and james mcclean are serious summer targets no matter where we finish

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:19:33
Good news chelsea lost today and liverpool have a very easy run in,we still have arsenal and chelsea to come to anfield,so if we improve we can make progress,were finished playing the manc teams and spurs so we could get that 4th but must improve quickly....lfc dub

Oh dear why do people say things like we have an easy run-in? Its attitudes like this that make us look like idiots, and what will be our downfall for not making the CL.

Rafa's Purple Goatie

Hello mr goatie i see ur being ur usual mr negative again,whats it like living in that negative bubble,then again i dont want to know,stay in your bubble..lfc dub

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:11:15
After having been subjected to the game we have, A few thoughts...The amount of times I have told anyone that will listen when you play downing n Henderson u r playing with 9 men. Downing is supposed to be a winger with a terrific cross, the perfect foil for Carroll? He is sadly lacking in confidence to the extent he doesn't even try n beat his man anymore, but looks for the easy sideways or backpass, or you find him in the middle of a congested midfield. Wasn't worth 20 mill in first place n hasn't resolved the left sided problem. Henderson is supposed to b one for the future n longterm replacement for stevie g (tho we also have Shelvey - a better allround player already). Think he will come good, but was way overpriced at 16mill. Wen u hav them both on the team, u r in effect playin with 9 men. Both sides wer poor today, but Liverpool were dire. Didn't close or press them either. Dalglish was completely wrong today in his selection, shudve started with bellamy on left. Carroll, again overpriced n then overawed. Last few games he has played well n started to look like a threat, so dalglish drops him? This is after the torrid time n fear he caused in cup game, why? Adam is another one who had recently began to find his range....he gets dropped. Really don't follow dalglish's logic, especially as suarez is a link player not an out n out striker. How r Carroll n Suarez supposed to form the deadly partnership they seem capable of doing if not played together? Just for the record, I think Shelvey shud get more chances, I think he is a far better player than Henderson, has confidence, puts his foot in but also has a knack of ghosting into the box, just like Stevie g did n poses a much bigger threat. Done now, no doubt will get slated n told I hate downing n Henderson again as is usually the case...I don't, just believe in starting with 11 v 11 n not 9 as is the case wen they start.

Liverpool's problem is one of who to drop to adopt the best formation. I happen to think that Carroll and Suarez should be playing together every game - or there is no way either will realise their potential. That means a 4-4-2. The problem is who to play in midfield as the starting 11 - especially once Lucas is fit again. Personally I think it should be (from the left) Henderson - Lucas - Shelvey - Gerrard and that for pace, width and crosses we will have to look to attacking fullbacks. It would be interestoing to see who people think our midfield 4 should be if Lucas were fit. RED LENIN.

No mata wot money we spent (n was poorly spent), we haven't solved right wing (haven't solved left either for that matter!), but if not gona play Johnson who is great going forward on the wing with Kelly behind (been advocating Johnson as winger since he came), have to play gerrard there. He can beat a man, has a wicked cross n scored a lot wen played there a few years ago. Centre mid I wud go for Adam n give Shelvey an extended run in the side. Left has to b bellamy (or downing if he ever decides he wants to play). Carroll n Suarez up front. Shelvey openly admitted he modelled his game on Gerrards. Wen he scored in cup game fee weeks ago he beat Gerard to the ball, takes up the same positions on the edge of the box (something we hav been severely lacking in all season even from corners...if they happen to beat the first man!) n will become a genuine attacking threat if used n blooded properly. Adam has the range too. Wud b very attack minded but end of day u get taught from an early age....attack is best form of defence.

There you go you see. Bellamy cannot be a first 11 player. Hos knees are shot

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:06:05
Hey Ed, I believe U get head aches from asking repeated questions regarding transfers and the treatment u get if any player like "Shaqiri" etc move to other club and some says "how on earth we missed him".

But how the heck can you take this negative troll from these panic people when some thing wrong goes regarding the result. Especially a lot of crows circle us when we loose or draw and when we win they are no where to be seen. I pity you eds. I believe u guys need 2-3 buckets of tea to withstand this SLUR.

AJ

So this defeat to the enemy is just a blip is it? like the one's against Bolton Fulham Stoke,City who were down to ten men and Tottenham are just a blip! do they go with the eight home draw's just somethin that went wrong? get a grip!

Well Mr.No name I would like to see u when we win and u would still be here. U don't support the when we win because u won't when we loose. And regarding the result against our enemy, I any day want to beat them to pieces, if not i will support my club to do it next time. Its not a god given right for us to win every match we play and we don't live in GAME world. If u can't agree with this fact screw U Idiot, U people have no ethics to have a go at the fans who support the club in hard times.

AJ

 

 

11 Feb 2012 17:04:58
Posted an hour ago and it didnt get shown and it was of the same content as some posts i hve just read which were posted after mine. Am i banned or something!

Waro {Ed002's Note - I assume different editors are letting different things through. There appears to be a dominence of hate filled stuff right now.}

Ed2 you need to have a word with some
Of the Eds some of this getting through is very vicious Blinkered crap!!

Lyndon {Ed002's Note - It is a no win situation. Leaving folks to vent and they are each other throats, cutting the posts and they are at the Ed's throats, trying to rationalise does not seem to work. It was pretty obvious to me that including Suarez in the game today would result in further grief - regardless of what the glifnards and soft boys said to me. I notice they have all disappeared now.}

Ed002 I happen to think you are right. Suarez should have been a sub today and we should have started with Bellamy and Carroll.

Totally agree with ed no 2.Played into their hands bigtime

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:54:47
I feel bad for Kenny. I have a 15 month old so I know how hard it is to manage a spoiled brat.

C

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:54:05
some of the Eds where are you opinions please. Because I can't believe that so many People on here are Now Suarez Fans Not Liverpool fans. Ed2 as I remember said he
Should be left out of the squad today!!
Lyndon YNWA
{Ed002's Note - I said I thought it would be a dumb thing for Dalglish to play Suarez at all today - as I expected it would lead to problems. Again the profile is very high and again the publicity is very bad for the club. So I gave my opinion well before the game - and I took the abuse from the glifnards then. I have nothing more to say on the matter really.}

What and leave him out every time we play at old toilet come on ed.
k-h {Ed002's Note - Try not to put words in my mouth. It just makes you look like a cretin. Like it or not the club's name is being dragged through the mud again - as a direct reult of Dalglish playing Suarez today. I rather expect that the owners are getting sick of this now.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:57:53
Good news!! Arsenal beat Sunderland so 7th is secure in our hands, atleast for a few more weeks.

On the bad side, Arsenal and Chelsea saying bye bye to us in CL race.

DD {Ed001's Note - Chelsea lost....}

Still only four off four and magpies are two down !!!!

Come on DD you need to get facts right before you post

DD is not dd btw ...

dd

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:49:49
personally I like Suarez should shake evra's hand. but guys u have to think about suarez too. after even finishing the band he still say's to his close friend that he never said that I kick you because you are black. so put yourself in suarez situation if anyone did say a big lie and that insult me so much in whole world did I shake that man hand again? I don't thing I do shake his hand too.

z.r

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:44:30
Just watching Evra again afterwards, he should be brought to account by the FA. When has he ever celebrated like that for a League match win ? If he had won the Cup then that would be differnet but by doing it in front of Suarez and trying to whip up the crowd into a frenzy, he surely has a case to answer. It had the potential to incite the crowd and could have caused a public safety hazard. Its a pity the handshake was not averted by the teams, as it was always going to be the focus of attention and possible cause for trouble. Don't think the situation was handled well. RedB

Incite the crowd celebrating in front of your own fans get over youre self

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:43:03
Well peeps, what do you expect when you put and out of work manager and an out of work coach together. The initial euphoria is now well and truly dead, and our league performances are going from bad to worse.

It was always going to be a defeat today, and our slide down the table continues. When will all you optimistic supporters give up on 'were only 3/4/5 points of 4th spot. After this weekends fixtures we could be 7 points adrift. Just because we lifted ourselves for 2 big cup games doesn't mean anything. We have drawn 9 league games at home = 18 points lost = the same as losing 6 home games.

That is an awful statistic.

Today, I actually thought we did well in the first half, but again we shoot ourselves in the foot big style, and before you know it we were 2 down. Even though this is hard to accept, the way we just didn't have any fight was so disappointing. When the scum were 3 down last week they went for the jugular and got a result. When do we ever do that ?

We're all saying they're nowhere near as good as they usede to be , but hey they're top again and laughing at us again. It time this stopped, but we just don't seem to be able to do it.

Champions League is a long, long way off for us.

Never mind, I guess if we win the Carling cup we'll think we're world beaters again - NOT !

KBL

Bout time somebody spoke there mind pal you hit the nail on the head.

ACHILLES.

KBL go ed smart arse who do we get in then to replace him, and if he doesn't meet your high standards in 1 season who do we then get in to replace the replacement??

Waro

Waro, read my post again will you - I never mentioned getting rid of anyone.

KBL

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:36:47
AS I said a few days ago - Sunderland are one of the in form teams in the premiership and we need to watch out... currently beating Arsenal! May finish 3pts behind Liverpool...

Ha...ha...ha... Ed's you could have waited before posting this!!! :-) I feel like a total donut now!

They just lost to arsenal

As I said a few days ago sunderland have played no one yet under O'Neill until today and guess what?

Honeymoon period pal.. Remember when we had it?

Myk

They hav'nt played anyone yet under Oneill? they beat City under O'Neill!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:36:09
We were doing well up until school boy errors from Spearing and Johnson, other players need to improve to, we are killing our chances with these performances.
Home form need to improve big time to have any chance of finishing 4th.

abbs

Spearing and Johnson? Thought Henderson's header put it on a plate for Rooney.

Johnson, let Rooney, get in front of him.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:35:13
Hindsight is 20/20 ofcourse, but Pienaar looking like a good pick up for cheap. I did suggest this in January but perhaps Kenny and co. Not using this site?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:35:04
We may have lost, Suarez may not of shaked Evra's hand yet it's only February. Remain positive and that Chelsea lose, Arsenal draw/lose and Spurs us a favour. Also, with Ferguson's comment, I can't really say that Suarez is a disgrace as, he has managed some pretty horrible characters in his time as manager. Ah well, press on with the F.A Cup and then a Cup Final after that.

Alex

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:34:26
Ed way things r going for us,chelses n arsenal does it not seems that none of us deserve 4th.lol..
Or will newcastle get it..eh..
Its battle for 4th what u think?

Red indian {Ed001's Note - I don't care myself, if we aren't champions it is really irrelevant to me.}

Ed - that's a pretty short sited view. You know damn well that if we're going to mount a proper title challenge, champions league qualification is absolutely necessary to attract the best players. That's the way the game is today.

Sir Masher {Ed001's Note - it is not the be all and end all of it. Nothing short sighted about it, coming 4th will do no more for the club than lifting cups.}

Agree too much made of the "NOT" champions league!!
Lyndon

Ed, just tell me that kenny won't be fired if we don't get CL. I see ur point of winning cups. We are playing pretty good football and slowly getting used to it. The last thing the club needed at this stage is another change, Just ask Chelsea. Why oh why some fools want continual manegerial changes. Its not like we are done. 4 pints behind 4th right and cups to play. I can only see improving next season. But a manager change will make things worse and we will have similar seasons like this in the future with hindering our progress.

AJ {Ed001's Note - 4th place is not the be all and end all for Dalglish's future. There is a lot more to it than that.}

Ed, I want the premier league as much as anyone. However, as the club set 4th spot as this season's target, they view champions league qualification as the key to assembling a squad capable of winning the premier league. Just watch what will happen to Chelsea if they fail to qualify.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:33:51
Outs
Stewart Downing
Dirk Kuyt
Maxi
Jay Spearing

Ins
Mauricio isla
Christian eriksen
Aiden mcgeady


...................Reina...................
Johnson skrtel agger enrique
.............gerrard..lucas............
isla..........eriksen......mcgeady
...................suarez..................

Subs
Doni
Coates
Henderson
Carroll
Adam
Sterling
Kelly

Great depth, and a alot of flair and blooding the promising youth into the subs
(Maybe teixeira too)
Possibly up and coming striker aswell

What we need
Merseyred

I know Downing was poor today but it'd be pretty insulting to replace him with Mcgeady.

Stu.

How could anyone be insulting to downing he's just poxy and no two ways about it.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:39:41
Lets not let suarez walk alone now. We need to stand by the players we have. Im not saying everythings perfect at the club but we are moving in the right direction. I cannot believe how spineless some liverpool fans calling for suarez to be sold. The chelsea fans havnt turned their back on terry or called for him to be sold. Stand by the players and live up to our reputation as the best fans in the world.

Dan

You Blinkered TIT!!

Think you'll find he has more agrees than you TIT!!

Actually poster above, your wrong. He doesnt have more agrees, does that make you the biggest Tit?
KiwiRed

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:38:59
Anybody else think evra was waiting for a cheeky kiss from suarez thats why he got so upset ;)

Mickleburg

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:38:26
Just found this on BBC............Police seized copies of a Manchester United fanzine before the match with Liverpool amid fears its cover would stoke the racism row between the clubs.

The Red Issue fanzine featured a cut-out Ku Klux Klan-style mask with the words "LFC Suarez is innocent".

The magazines, described by police as "potentially offensive", were confiscated outside Old Trafford.

Liverpool's Luis Suarez was facing United's Patrice Evra for the first time since the racism row.

Ch Supt Mark Roberts said anyone found selling the fanzine or displaying the image faces prosecution.

He said: "Shortly before kick-off we were made aware that a Manchester United supporters' fanzine being sold outside Old Trafford featured a potentially offensive image.

"Officers are now seizing the fanzines and in consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service we will take appropriate action against anyone either found selling this particular fanzine or provocatively displaying the image in public."

Police have also arrested a man on suspicion of a racially aggravated offence over a T-Shirt which has been confiscated.

Mr Roberts added: "I have taken this course of action as both items are potentially offensive and we cannot be in a situation where hundreds or thousands of people were displaying offensive images at a football match.......add this to the Utd fan who recently racially abused a Stoke player has been banned for 3 years, yes 3 years, fukin Hypocrites tell us what is right and wrong! Get a frip reds fans, stand up for OUR player and don't cow down to Manc s**te or the media - TMac

Here here

Dan

TMac is on a role. Spot on once again i just hope other fans have got balls and stick up for the club

Here here
k-h

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:31:41
I missed the first 15 mins of the game so missed 'hand shake' gate... I was fearing the worst when I heard the news and immediately began to produce excuses for Suarez. After a while I gave in and decided to wait and watch the incident for myself before making judgement on either person.
On first glance (that being the slow motion HD clip of the incident), it looked blatantly like Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand.
But! After the match, Slysports then showed a clip of the incident but with Patrice shaking other players hands before Suarez's. Now I am obviously a Liverpool supporter and have my roses tinted glasses on, but, Evra clearly ha his hand up above his waistline as he shakes everyone's hand. When Suarez approaches, his hand drops below his waistline whilst luis's stays in the same position and goes past Evra.
Maybe I am looking for excuses, if he had shook his hand then I may be talking about a half assed performance instead.
Just thought I'd throw that in there for debate anyway.

Myk

P.S. not sure how to take how KD has fled the post match interview, it was all a bit strange!

That's one view. Take those glasses off.

I agree to this post i also noticed the same if you watch it back as suarez aproaches his hand drops and slowly it lifts back up luis just bypasses him then evra makes a fuss ! i love liverpool i have for 32 years when we are right and in the wrong i'll always liverpool some people call it bias i call it loyalty and ill stand by luis what ever people say if i was suarez i wouldnt of shook that tossers hand so you call me a racist, the media will make this in to a witch hunt now so all loyal liverpool fans stand by suarez!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:29:58
Arsenal and Chelsea both losing...if newcastle loses too its all back to the same thing.

Tekneek

Does not matter wat everybody else does though does it?
We need to earn a spot by playing good football and remaining consistent! The latter we have not managed this season!

Gaelic Red

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:26:10
I'm sick of football, sick of the media obsession with Suarez, sick of the unremitting bias, sick of Luis's histrionics, sick of Ferguson being allowed to say whatever he wants and get away with it, sick of the FA and their hypocrisy, sick of Sky Sports, sick of Talk Sport. Sick of cynical simulation to con refs and refs who are taken in by it. I'm sick of changes in the rules that make tackling a sin, sick of everything to do with the game formerly known as the wonderful game. It's not a sport anymore it's a media circus, it's politics in shorts, it's not the game that I've loved for so many years I'm checking out. This will be the last time I post on the site I'm going to take my tablets, calm down and find another sport to get obsessed by. Football it was nice while it lasted.

I'm starting to feel the same...

If your that sick call the Doctor

Fair play a hard but honest post mate

This is all so true. FIFA is a joke, the FA is a joke, and supporters can no longer identify with the players. We are just the idiots that spend our hard earned money to fill these people's pockets.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:20:03
Someone please tell me how Suarez is the main story on sky news
Oh I have answered it for myself it is sky, I'm seriously considering cancelling my subscription as I feel victimised as a Liverpool supporter for having sky, he'll I almost feel embarrassed that I have sky sports whilst being a Liverpool supporter!!
Ferguson is disgusting how dare he do anything and say anything of the sort I cannot believe it.
How dare sky news agree and say that Suarez is a rabid racist and the sports reporter on skynews saying that Suarez deserves to be banned for his actions
We must make a stand against this it's horrific

I see what you mean matey! But unless we pack it all in now. The club have to
Bow down to the cash Cow which is Sky Sports/ 24 hour news. For the sake of the club. I've been slagged of for not backing Suarez. But it was SO simple "Shake the nobs hand play the media game and move on for the Clubs sake. sky can kill you with the 24hour newsarama!!

Sky cant only brainwash idiots.
k-h

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:19:59
Sigh, all the negativity here. Oh well, but have to agree with the slagging. I'd like to know what's the big deal if Suarez didn't shake Evra's hand. That nothing compared to the team selection, the performance and the attitudes of the manager and his players. But if we can lose to Bolton, then what's the big deal if we lose to the mancs (the defending champions). Sometimes, I wonder if the manager really wants us to get the 4th spot. If we compare our squad to that of the mancs, still we have more big name players than them (though most are under-performing). but their manager knows how to motivate them and that's why ManU are fighting all the time for the title and we are still fighting to get 4th place.
on a personal point of view, I couldn't and haven't till yet understood why Kuyt, Downing and Henderson were starters for this match. oh my god, how outstanding they were. superb performance from all the three, for the cause of the mancs of course. I think Kenny and his players should shut up and get lost. absolutely useless. sorry all of you guys, I'm gutted with our performance today. can't digest it. Cardiff will beat us in the Carling cup.

The big deal is now it's the story when it needn't have been. Sometimes as a professional footballer you have to do things you don't want for the sake of the team. To me, Suarez's actions show the opposite as he has to know what the press is going to be- he can't possibly be that sheltered that he didn't think it would be construed as negative by the press. Or, alternatively, KK should have never started him. Failure all around today, I'm afraid.

Other than gerrard who are the big name players

Big name players LOL

JWalk

So, Agger, Suarez, Downing, Bellamy, Glen, Skirtel and Reina aren't big name players?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:19:13
Fergie says Suarez a disgrace to LFC. Have to agree with him on this one. Had a chance to put all the bulls@$t behind us and what does he do? Exactly what we all knew he would do. To make matters worse, Kenny supports it? Getting comical. I don't care about the loss. We were never going to win either way.

MANC ALERT
KernowRed

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:17:25
FA have caused this by Not removing the handshake. Only because they removed before the Chelsea game but not this one. What was going on on their heads.

SUAREZ CAN'T PLAY FOR ENGLAND IF HE CAN THEN SURE F.A SAVE HIM TOO NOW TERRY NEWS IS GONE SUAREZ IS BACK AGAIN. WELL DONE F. A

ROCK

You can't blame the FA for Suarez's poor actions today. He's his own man and now unfortunately he (and all of LFC) are the talking point of the day.

Only blaming FA because only 2wks ago they thought it right to abandon the hand shake when "The England Captain was involved!
Lyndon {Ed002's Note - The FA withdrew the need to shake hands at the QPR - Chelsea match because they were requested to do so by one of the clubs and the other club had no objection. No such request was made to the FA for today. Try not to be so paranoid.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:17:14
I feel as though this race issue has been blown way out of proportion due to the mass media and their sole desire to make headlines and sell papers, regardless of anything else. Suarez is not a racist and quite frankly if I felt as though someone had lied or exaggerated an issue, in the way Luis obviously feels Evra has, and tarnished my reputation then why should I shake a mans hand whom I don't like or respect. It's not even a race issue to Luis I don't think, he just doesn't respect Evra for the part he played in the whole debacle.

I do agree that perhaps for the good of the club, the manager and the match he should have been the bigger man and just shaken his hand but he is by no means a disgrace.

RO YNWA

I agree on both points. I would like to think I wouldn't have shaken his hand either - why would I shake someone's hand who I fly had lied and those lies resulted in a whole heap of people thinking I was racist. If I was ordered to by my manager, I would, otherwise I would decide with my conscience. Ferguson is a disgrace through and through. The problem is, there is such poor reporting, and so many stupid people eating it up, that Suarez will once again be hanged by the press. Nick.

P.s. a bit disappointed by the overall performance. They were there for the taking.

Totally agree with these points...having taken the punishment he has no requirement to shake the hand of someone he hates.

Its simple - if you think what suarez did was racist (and most of the public do based on the coverage of the media) then not shaking his hand seems appauling. If you believe suarez's version then his refusal is more than understanadble.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:16:19
His name is Luis Suarez and he wears the famous red! I just cant get enough! I just cant get enough!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:12:59
Hold on, hold on, hold on...are you people really stupid enough to say our best player has to go because he didn't want to shake Evra's hand? Are you plain stupid or a bunch of hypocrites? This is our best player by a long way and on today's performance, (Gerrard aside) by far our most passionate. He clearly feels a major misjustice has been done, and I tend to agree. Evra's got form for doing this before and the only people who know what was meant that day were those two. And to be quite frank, I really don't trust Evra.

The handshakes should not have happened and Kenny should not have started with Suarez - that was a major miscalculation.

I'm most worried about some of the other really poor performances - Spearing has showed for a while now that he's not good enough for that position, Downing is beyond poor and Henrique really struggles on the back foot...Walker, Fabio and Valencia have all exposed him recently. However, you do have to bear in mind how little support he gets from Downing, despite screaming at him today.

Gerrard wasn't great today - too many misplaced passes, and Kuyt plays like he knows he's not favoured. Henderson ain't good enough yet either. We've bought to much mediocrity in midfield and there isn't enough pace or flare in the team. These issues should have been addressed in January. I'm really starting to wonder whether the club might actually part company with Kenny if 4th spot isn't achieved; the cups may save him yet.

Sir Masher

The trouble is mate, some people really are that stupid!

MR EM

Johnson played against Walker not Enrique and thought he did a good job

I was thinking of the away game

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:12:27
Arsenal draw or lose
Chelsea lose to Everton
Tottenham beat Newcastle and nothing has really changed and we have got another one of the big games out of the way.
Would still only be 4 points off of 4th and teams above us still have plenty of games against each other.

Agree with you there but we are running out of games

We will not get 4th. Relying on poor performance of other teams is not enough. We have to show intent. We looked like lame cats today. Only one game, but how many times have we said that this season? 4 or 5 at least

If the team starts performing consistently home and away, I still believe we can do it. Hardest way matches are behind us and we have to play both Arsenal & Chelsea at Anfield. Keep an eye on Newcastle though...if the two Dembas link up well, they could snatch it.

The fact is we have Arsenal next and can win. Ok they won today, but they are now in 4th and after we win we will only be one point behind them.
I think Arsenal Have to play us, Spurs, Chelsea and Man City before the end of the season.
It's similar with the other teams that there are a lot of teams playing each other in the top 6, whereas I think we only have 2 of those games left.
It isn't about hoping a team slips up, just that it is inevitable that they will take points off each other.
Even after the Spurs game and today's match we are still only 4 points off of 4th.
That is not a bad position to be in at all.
I think a siege mentality needs to be adopted to really fire everyone up though.
make Anfield a cauldron atmosphere for the remaining home games and come out of the blocks from the first second in all matches. get the match won before making subs, rather than trying to keep it tight and then make subs late on to try and get the win or fight back from a losing position.
I truly believe we will finish 4th

 

 

11 feb 2012 16:11:56
its may finish a draw if spearing not make that mistake . but's its happen in football so take it guys man utd lost to us 2-1 too.

r-r

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:11:27
most lfc fans on here havent a clue and in gneral alot of lfc fans need to wake up,
why everything one of our managers sticks up for us he gets slated :eg kenny ,raffa just cos fergie gets a bee in his bonnett ,support our club and players when it comes to anything like this end of
jeff

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:13:27
For the sake of The CLUB stop sticking up for Suarez. He could of done the club a world of good by just shaking hands..... Once the racist card was dealt we should of SADLY just fallen on our sword!!! Sad day today. Not the lose just THE CIRCUS now around the best club in the world!
Lyndon YNWA

Even if he had shook hands with Evra, Evra would still have danced around at the end and rubbed his nose in it.
KernowRed

Will you stop, if I fell on my sword every time the racist card was dealt, id be locked up. The racist card is very easy to deal, and this goes for all races.

Dublad

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:10:38
i was amazed the amount of times Rafael won the ball in the air, he's 5 ft 8.

And a couple against AC, so go figure.

Twice thats very funny
k-h

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:09:20
suarez has done us no favours, think we should sell him, for once i think fergie was right, and kk reaction in interview said it all

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:09:40
The press and Utd have an agenda. It has always been anti-Liverpool. Plenty of double-standards too.
How about Cantona the kung-fu attack on the fan?
Ferdinand - the missing drug test
Rooney - paying for sex with old grannies

If you watch the whole handshake process, Evra put his hand out towards every player except Suarez. When it came to Suarez, he kept his hand close to his body but with it open to possibly accept a handshake if it was coming.
Suarez declined and Evra decided to make an issue out of it. Almost as though it was a thought out process of I'll keep my hand back to make it look like I won't be shaking hands with him, to increase the chances of the handshake not happening.
That on top of the slurring purple-nosed Fergie stating before that match that the build up to this match wasn't the best and to be honest a lot of that was down to Liverpool.
Then after saying Suarez was a disgrace and should never play for Liverpool again.
Evra was an person at full-time for rushing to Suarez and celebrating right in front of him, maybe trying to goad a reaction???
How about the incident at half-time too where Evra tried to 'Have a Word' with Suarez in the tunnel only to be blocked off by Skrtel?

I thought the tactics were wrong today and we didn't play our best side, but maybe that was to try and keep it tight for 60-70 minutes and make the subs to win the game (similar to when we knocked them out of the FA cup the other day).

Typical Sky after the match - complaining that a line needs to be drawn under the whole matter and move on, next their reporter is asking questions to try and keep the matter going by getting any sort of response out of the players/managers.

I've ust posted about the 'hand shake gate'... Maybe something else to it as you say!

Myk

This could all have been avoided if Dalglish just left Luis at home today. Making the front pages and not the back will see both gone in the summer. FSG must be well sick of the whole matter now.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:09:20
suarez has done us no favours, think we should sell him, for once i think fergie was right, and kk reaction in interview said it all

Suarez has done us no favors but Fergie was not right...

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:07:02
said it before will say it again - if we finish a poor 5th, or below , dalglish will be replaced, regardless of how many cups we win. We do not have a cutting edge, no pace (apart from bellamy), there is a strong argument to be made that he has not spent well, Carrol. Adam, henderson and partiuclarly downing. Downing has been truly awful all season, 1 goal i think and no assists for 20m. We also cannot score gaols when it matters.
I feared when Lucas was injured, Spearing is nowhere near good enough, although at the time I thought he would be.
He also cannot control Suarez, regardless of what happened before, he should have shaken the evras hand today to protect the reputation of the club.
Kuyt should have been replaced last summer.
Plenty of reasons to replace Dalglish against ones keeping him. I think the board will weigh it all up. And give money to a new manager rather than dalglish. I think commoli will also be told to go. Yes we are better than last year and yes it takes time, but we cannot improve any more and catch the others with the same squad next season & we will not improve with his tactics.
Look at our revenues against the worlds best we are 9th. Without champs league that will not improve and we cannot exploit commercial opportunities without it. The board will take that as a priorty consideration when deciding, sentiment will not and should not come into it. Over the last 15 years, Chelsea and Arsenal have been allowed to take advantage of their success by increasing their global prescense at our our expense, and we are way way bigger than them, thsi will not be allowed to continue.
FYI - Dalglish is my hero, so I say this with a real heavy heart. No idea who should take over.
Red First & Last

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:06:38
Its funny how most of Kenny's signings so far are all players we want to replace. Personally I think Kenny doesnt know what he's doing regarding transfers, Henderson, downing and Carroll are probably the worst signings in Prem history taking into account the amount we spent (around 70m!!) and their contribution to the team. Absolutley woefull business.

E.H LFC

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:05:41
Our midfield is woeful. Hendo too afraid to attack or defend. We badly miss a PROPER DM
Gerrard is having to cover as a DM and AM and is just running himself out the game.
Downing was too busy watching a REAL winger play in Valencia.
No movement, poor passing, poor technique, no vision, backward passing galore. Our midfield has no class, no pace and no talent other than Gerrard who is apparently the only player who can pass forward. It's a pity he has to spend so much time helping out our defence.
We have no Plan B and are far to predictable.
19 points off the top and we have improved?
I guess for the mid-table team we are fast becoming I suppose it is an improvement.

LJ

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:05:20
Does any team want fourth spot,last time I checked it was a champions league spot or has it changed to a Europa league spot. Zaydan123

Just been talking about the same thing.. Will be really strange if we get the results with the other 4th spot contenders today as well...

Myk

 

 

11 Feb 2012 16:03:32
Everyone should take a breath and look at the situation and not be allowed themselves to be had by Fergie's idiotic statements. The only thing Suarez did wrong today was NOT shake Evra's hand. That's a non-action. The drama at the end was not Suarez's doing. If anything happened in the tunnel, you have to look at the events after the whistle to find out what or who caused it. Oh, Suarez should never play for LFC again? Thanks for looking out for our club Fergie. We all know how deeply you care. We certainly value your opinion.

Canadian Fan

Agree 100 per cent fu@k fergie and utd
jeff

Harry say's if you don't like anyone u don't shake hand its no big deal . i think that too.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:58:34
Was there a game played today?

So someone didn't shake someone else's hand, damned if he did, damned if he didn't - at least by not shaking his hand he didn't come across as a hypocrite ...why should you be forced to shake someones hand just because the FA deem it so, it was clear neither of them wanted to ....right, wrong or indifferent it happened, and whilst the press will have a field day, I hope they report the fact that Mr Ferdinand also pulled his hand away and refused to shake hands.

As for the game itself, all I can say is that our midfield was abject - too deep, too slow, and too ineffectual! we got what our level of performance deserved - absolutely nothing!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:55:22
It's funny, I don't remember Fergusion coming out and saying Cantona was a "disgrace" to Man Utd after he nearly took a fan's head off and kicking him out the club?

What's the saying about sticks and stones?

Hypocrite Ferguson, hypocrite.

Matt S - YNWA

Is it just me, or is his nose getting bigger and reder?

MR EM

Just thought the same thing...

If hand shake means too much then why no one say any word when bridge not shake hand of terry? why handshake of qpr and chelsea been drop ? and fregy even ask liverpool should sale suarez its in the bbc. come on fregy you make fun of liverpool when we ask for a dialog. so why you so rush to get a handshake. surez have bad feeling about evra's lie so he not shake hand that his personal decision.

r-r

Pinocchio got nothing on bulls**t fergie

He did say that evras behaviour at the final whistle was wrong as well

Man utd obviously didnt condone cantona as they banned him for three months themselves before the fa banned him

They jumped fa gun you mean

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:54:58
Who cares if he didnt shake his hand? He feels Evra lied and therefore he doesnt like him. Without Suarez we really would be a completeley average team going forward, literally no flair what so ever! So we cant sell him. Personally I feel this is all Kenny's fault as if we had bought some other quality players instead of the absolute garbage we've bought, then we wouldn't have to rely on Suarez and therefore it wouldnt be as bad if we sold him because we'd have some other real quality already. If we sell Suarez we'll most likley replace him with another over rated, over priced, mid table premier league player and will end up like Leeds in a matter of years.

Pete

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:53:40
Some if you are a disgrace agreeing with taggert and the scum. If someone put out the hand to me and I disliked him then he has no chance. He's a nob as he proved at the end can't stand evra. Kenny stuck up for us......what do you want ?? Him to agree with Ferguson for gods sake ???.......

Matty b

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:52:35
Message to Andy LFC ,
Stay on your own site in future mate , you dont have to think of mid table mediocrity , you support it , keep looking up though , you can see our shirt tails !
By the way , after the crap suarez has had , I wouldnt have shaken Evra's hand either . Evra is the biggest cry baby in the premier league . Lets see what the FA does about him , nothing probably .
Davo

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:47:26
If you had a list of the worst Premier League role models then i'm sure JT and Ash would be on there along with Rooney and Diouf. You can now add Luis Suarez to that. The 'man' is an utter disgrace. Hes been at your club no longer than a year and hes caused you no end of problems. He's opened Dalglish up to criticism time after time because the only thing Dalglish was ever going to do was defend his own, thats the sort of guy he is. Suarez is a disgrace. He may be a talented footballer but he can not be defended, anyone who does defend him is a fool. The sooner he leaves the Premier League the better, he is harming the image of your club. He seems to crave controversy and attention, but does not have a second thought for how it affects his club or team mates. I hope Dalglish swallows his pride and ships him out.

OsgoodIsKing

Whats it to do with you and your i hope dalglish swallows his pride and ships him out. Your a chelsea fan worry about TERRY cause his bad time is to come !

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:46:19
Well lads. We should not let the circus involving Suarez and Evra hide what was an absolutely abject performance by our boys today. No bite, no fight, no passion. Inexcusable from a Liverpool team playing in Old Trafford. Utd will not have an easier game all year.

On to player performances, Johnson was terrible. Stevie looks a shadow of the player he used to be. Honestly think that if an offer came in for him we should sell. He's done, and his attitude today was terrible. Looks to be very lazy. Stewart Downing never will be a player, he is so bad. Honestly, the lad shouldn't be at our club, and when I think of the money we spent on him it makes me sick inside.

Now the main culprit, Wee Jay. In the words of Alan Hansen, he's never been a footballer. I've had a go at him on here before, you can all search for it if you want. Never rated him, never will. He is so bad at filling space, has no awareness of opposition players around him, gets drawn towards the ball far too much. Leaves our back 4 way to exposed through his lack of discipline. Should be offloaded as soon as possible.

Big up Marty Skrtel for standing up for Luis at half time.

KMK

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:45:58
Today's performance was completely toothless and we have to accept that. Spearing should have been replaced at half time. The mancs were walking through the middle all the first half.

I think Carragher as a holding midfielder would have been a better option. Kuyt was terrible and always needs two to three touches to get the ball under control, by this point we've lost all momentum in our attacks.

Bellamy even though he has played regularly of late, I think playing him from the start even if just for the first half would have provided more impetus.

We sadly lack any creativity in depth of late and this is being exposed in the second half of the season.

I don't know if we had any meaningful funds in January, but if we did we should have signed someone. Honda was available at 12 million and would have been ideal.

If there was no funds available in January I would go as far to say we should have recalled Cole from France.
He's playing well in France and should have been given a second chance.
He would have provided some spark and he seems to have his fitness back, and has been injury free for a good period now too.

Surely with him in the squad today the performance may not have been so poor.

Jonesred

It was all going so well, until you read
recalled Cole from France, then you just
think, another nutter post.

With our limited resources it makes sense. We desperately need someone.

Jonesred

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:45:28
Dissapointed with our performance today but it's just one game. One thing I will say the only player who consistently attacks the box given the opportunity is Glen Johnson and like many others I have often said we would have more going forward and actually more defensively with johnson playing in front of kelly.
Don't think Man Utd would've scored there first goal with kelly there. Kenny play our best footballers and shuffle the team selection to fit them in.
LFC BEST AVAILABLE FOOTBALLERS
.....................reina
kelly.........skyrtle....agger.....enrique
johnson.....gerrard....adam....bellamy
................kuyt....suarez...............

kidmillions

I've been begging for that to happen all season! Try it out for couple of games!!

Johnson is a liability defensively. Poor with Rooney today.

Johnson has to play rb Carroll is playing well and did well coming on today in difficult circumstances

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:45:14
Never mind boys , theres always next year . Still you can always go onto the spurs web site and tell them how good you are again , I am sure they will believe you now !
Davo

We will see u next year

AJ

Hey davo there's always next year in the cup for your lot as well 2-1 at anfield just incase you convientley forgot

There is next year and the year after too and they are all Liverpool's foe the taking cos we all know the scum is on the way down and so do you we will pass you on the way

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:40:05
When you are the team standing still waiting for the handshakes you normally stand with your hand out in front of you waiting for the opposition to walk along the line. Maybe I've missed some of the chat but can no one else see that Evra's hand was basically at his side as Suarez came to him?

Yes Suarez could have stopped and waited but I think he felt that Evra was refusing to shake his hand so he moved along not wanting to make a scene?

I understand what you are saying, but in the greater picture, the pundits and the media will have none of that. Suarez, just like everyone else has free will. I wouldn't shake Evra's hand.

Agreed mate but you know what the muppets at old toilet, the fa, the media and sports panels are like with their suck up love to utd and hate to us, Evra can no wrong he's a honest model player NOT!!

There is something can see in replay evra not come up with hand at first. suarez take his hand then he go to de gea. at that time evra catch suarez hand. and even says too many word until pep ask him to shake his hand then referee come to stop him.

r-r

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:38:16
it wasn't that bad today boys, i do worry about downing though as he was gash, power gash! as for the handshake watch it again you can hardly say evra had his hand stuck out for the shake, he was as tentative as suarez. my only concern with luis is his dire first touch that has been ever present beforte and since his ban.

downing - wow! he is a bottler, no drive no idea no belief then he has the cheek to start muttering and shaking his head when he got hauled off. he was more of a disgrace than anything suarez did.

stevie g - i thought he was ok but the legs are going a little and its his lack of being able to get up and down which leaves the front man isolated.

johnson was class, dirker was dirker

as much as we were ok today, i still have worries - we always attack at a plod and not at pace. and i cant say we ever looked like scoring to be honest.

more pace and guille needed in the starting xi

and as for luis's actions nearly causing a riot according to whisky nose - he must have missed evras pete townsend impression at the full time whistle

if it comes down to luis or kenny - the king every time for me. as much as luis actions have been overblown in my opinion he hasnt exactly helped the cause either

Re Downing, I have to laugh as I said exactly the same thing - muttering under his breath, if you had of put as much energy into the game as you did in that 30 seconds you may have had cause to complain.

I've never rated the bloke, didn't want us to sign him and certainly nothing he has done so far this season has changed my opinion or mind.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:36:39
Suarez out, He just keeps bringing shame on our once great club, He needs to go NOW.

You must live a sheltered life. Where's the Shame. I'm ashamed that your ashamed.
He never shook his hand; So What!! He didn't shag a granny or run away from a drugs test or drop kick a supporter? Now That's What I Call Shame!
kidmillions

Defo a manc wrote this

Kidmillions LOL Thanks for cheering me up.
MR EM

I for one think suarez was being true to himself not shaking evras hand if he had shaken it sky sports would have written some bull about it being an admission of guilt good for you suarez

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:35:52
But the FA have caused this by Not removing the handshake. Only because they removed before the Chelsea game but not this one. What was going on on their heads. Can't believe it but Suarez as dragged us down today and all through it I backed him until today!!
Lyndon

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:35:52
Nevermind , always next year AGAIN !!


Much love .

Do you mean for yourselves in the FA Cup?

MR EM

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:30:49
Why oh why couldn't Suarez of just shook is hand. The sh"t we'll get because of this is not worth the agro. It ad caused the Kenny interview afterwards. Never thought I'd say it But I think he as to go. I say this heartbroken but for the sake of LIVERPOOL FC. YNWA.
Lyndon

'Heartbroken' - What an idiot.

Adam

I'm going to try and put a different angle on this whole Suarez/Evra handshake mess...

Of course Suarez is going to find it hard to shake Evra's hand!

I wish he could have found the grace to be able to do it so we didn't have this mess but surely the managment could see this coming!!

I would have deliberately left Suarez on the bench today so as to avoid putting him in the position - he's a fiery South American who has bitten somebody before now... was he ever going shake hands with Evra!

In Suarez's world, he's had a nightmare two montyhs and it's all Evra's fault so was he ever going to shake his hands?

If he'd have come on as a sub, all we would be looking at now is Evra's celebration in front of Suarez being in bad taste!

Thought it before the game, when I saw him on the team sheet and clearly now after the game - wrong decision to start the game.

Lyndon you are typical of a fan who gives up on our club and bows down to utd, Why should suarez shake his hand if he doesn't want to. He feels evra has got away with blue murder and he's pissed off about it.
Do not for one minute think evra genuinelly offered his hand in a positive manner and the tunnel incedent and at the end proved evra is a sly snake who's laughing at all this. Support your club and suarez or piss off and follow united !

Heartbroken matey because the clubs on the tv for all the wrong reasons an handshake that's all it would of took. If your not saddened by it I'm a bit surprised. How many time on a Sunday league pitch as someone shook a dickheads
Lyndon

Entirely agreed with you, above poster, but that shows a failure on KK's part. If KK didn't think Suarez was capable of putting the club's interest above his own and shaking Evra's hand, then he should have sat him and played Carroll instead. Instead, we now get more bad press, a dejected looking team, and likely further loss of confidence for Carroll just as he was beginning to look marginally better. Would love for the post game story to have been Evra's disgraceful post game grandstanding rather than Suarez's pre game one.

Sorry mate but I'll never give up on the Club. But it's the bigger picture I hate united. But am more worried about the reputation of the club. For the sake of Liverpool FC would you of just shaken his hand
Lyndon

Cheers mate. I'm not sticking up for Manutd Evra Fergies. It's Liverpool I care about and to me one mans stubbornness as caused the Sky Propaganda machine to kick in. 20 years ago before sky none of this would of been blackening our Name!
Lyndon YNWA

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:30:33
Ok Johnson's rubbish defending caused the 1st goal Spearings stupid idiotic pass caused the 2nd goal, Our passing was terrible and now Fergie is saying Suarez should never play for Lfc again and Evra was inciting the Lfc fans...So all in all a fantastic day for Lfc did we not want a win...Poorest performance this season

MJ

Fergie should shut his mouth as he is the disgrace. evra was acting like child after the game.

Oh yes like he wants us to get rid of are best player for acting the fool just like he did with Eric Cantona maybe cantona wasn't that bad he only kicks away fans

And Suarez was acting like? I'm a Liverpool fan and as much as I like him not a Suarez fan now. THINK ABOUT THE CLUB not just one player. I Dreed Reading the Propaganda in the papers tomorrow. For LIVERPOOL FC he could of just bit the Bullet and shock The Knobheads Hand!!!!
Lyndon YNWA

And Suarez was acting like? I'm a Liverpool fan and as much as I like him not a Suarez fan now. THINK ABOUT THE CLUB not just one player. I Dreed Reading the Propaganda in the papers tomorrow. For LIVERPOOL FC he could of just bit the Bullet and shock The Knobheads Hand!!!!
Lyndon YNWA

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:29:52
henderson was so,so bad. the guy has no guts, a weak player at best. how many times did he give the ball away and bottle out of tackles?! the guy is a joke! scouse red.

I thought he was the next big 20 million pound england star . Looks like super KK has brought you 3 crocks of s***e for a lot of dough . Still knowing the liverpool supporters it will be kenny out in a couple of weeks !
Davo

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:28:53
Agree with recent post, Suarez is a disgrace and should be sold in the summer. Also just saw KKs interview after the match and he said that Suarez did shake Evras hand - come on Kenny!

He said it was contrary to what he had been told.

God why is everyone so anti-Suarez?

Adam

No lad kenny never said that he said he didn't know he hadn't shook hands with evra so get your facts right lad

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:28:23
Off subject but anyone know why the lfc channel is not showing the phone in after the match it's showing school kids talking to Charlie Adam?
Bean

Thats what i was thinking aswell.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:27:35
What do the fans think of the Fergie interview regarding his comments about Suarez? should he be allowed to play for us again and from a personal point of view should he be sold in the summer?

Alan50

He has no right to say that and it is none of his business he can go shove his thoughts up evras behind in my opinion

Fergie should mind his own business for a start and Suarez should stay for as long as he likes there is nothing wrong with someone feeling strongly about our club as he does.
KernowRed

So sir alex is picking are teams now i better let Kenny know . . .In that case i don't think he should manage UTD

Fergie should shut up. he is a disgrace for talking crap about us. evra caused the trouble during half time and after the match. the handshakes should have never happened in the first place. if suarez doesn't want to shake hands, then he won't. who cares anyway?. i felt sorry for kenny because of what happened at the interview. also why are supporters saying that suarez should be sold?. he is our best player.

Spot on mate, Lets back our players and clubs but do not ever agree with that knob fergie cause he's a trouble maker who thinks he's got liverpool well and truly stiched up

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:26:07
ed..do u think we will look for a new manager in the summer?if so who do u think we would go after,mourinho?..guss hiddink? {Ed001's Note - don't talk soft.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:24:50
Ferguson has said that suarez shouldn't be allowed to play for us again and is a disgrace to football! Why isn't he saying that about Ferdinand when Je refused to shake suarez's hand, total and utter madness!

Joshlfc

Rio was going to shake his hand until he showed a lack of respect towards Evra. Why should any of Utd's players shake his hand AFTER seeing that?

Your right he wouldn't even talk to the BBC for years so i don't know why people even listen to him .

Taggart is a horrible t''t, i dont know who i hate more him or evra

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:24:49
Eds just a question...any chances of FA taking action against Evra for what he did in the ending...disgraceful that is what evra is {Ed001's Note - there is no point suggesting that, you know the way it works.}

Correct me if im wrong he celebrated in front of his own fans in his own ground

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:24:44
Sky sports are so f*cking biased! Concentrate on luis
Not shaking hands is down to them! Redknapp is right, if u don't like someone. U don't shake their hands... I certainly wouldn't have shook his hand after all the hassle that's gone on!

Your right mate. sky sports being idiots and talking crap about liverpool. the handshakes should never have happened in the first place. the utd players were causing trouble during and after the game.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:24:31
Too many passenges in the Liverpool team.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:24:26
poor poor poor, im not a footy manager of claim to be this or that but the games ive watched against united this term, the more you attack them and take the game to them the more they crumble.
For 45 minutes i watched a mismatch in tactics, if im honest id even say we were playing with 9 men as hendo and downing were poor at best, kuyt bless him works hard but way past his sell by date im afraid.
So answer me< why cant Kenny see that the tactics and these 3 players are not performing to a standard? Excuses aside its just not good enough from the players or the management, We could have brought on carrol and Adams on at half time, maybe having an effect on saving first goal with carrols ariel ability.
I cant see us getting 4th now not a chance, the game was there to be won as this united team are poor but yet again we bottled it, poor tactics, poor timing on the subs, need i go on? I live kenny but i think his shortcomings are there for all to see, forget the money we have spent or not spent but evaluate the quality brought in, not up to it im afraid.
Blame this person or that person but we just arent good enough for a season in the league plus cup competitions, were great for 2/3 games then poor for next 5. This is surely not good enough for LFC, Ive supported this club for 50 years and hopefully till the day i die, but these past 10 years with Houllier, benitez, the face rubber and Kenny have been the most frustrating, I honestly believe i could do better i really do, cant do mush worse can i? and i can hear all the so called footy managers having a pop or getting ready to respond but facts are facts, we have played inconsistent football, watched some dire tactics and performances, sure we have won things but its not good to watch and we have been very lucky in the past with cup wins im sorry to say.
So you can all have your pop now but i think deep down you all know its not right, LFC will go nowhere with current personel, we need someone to take us to that next level, we are 3 quality players short of a good side and 5 quality players short of an all conquering side, but who would you trust to buy them? Food for thought.
Scouse red

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:23:30
Switched the TV off, and taking the dog for a walk. Don't want to talk or think about that performance anymore, at least the dog is happy!.
Food for thought.

Lol!

Adam

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:22:25
My take on the game:

Started out bad with the Suarez thing. I know the lad is sticking up for what he believes was an injustice, but how can Kenny let this happen? He is the coach. Either tell him to make the handshake or sub him if he is too proud to listen to the coach. And NO, the goal does not 'make up for it'.

Defense relatively solid again. Corner led to a goal, yes, but that will happen from time to time. The second came from Spearing's ridiculous pass directly to Valencia, not the defense. Let's face it, Spearing is decent in Lucas' role, but he isn't Lucas, and cannot pass nearly as well.

Downing is truly a mystery. Seems really inept, which is only compounded by dismal effort after dismal effort. If only he had scored on opening day against Sunderland, what a different season it might have been (?maybe).

Henderson is still too raw, and I think we all felt we needed another right midfield player and should have jumped in the transfer window.

What's left? Another tough game next week. A loss or even tie against Arsenal and 4th is just a pipe dream, which in reality it already is. We are only 4 points out (will be 7 after Chelsea win) but our form would have to change dramatically. Don't see that happening.

Looking forward to Carling Cup game. However, should we do the unthinkable and lose, this will be our worst season in the premier league......Anyone agree?

Coop

Co Operation, what a s**te fan of liverpool you are ! Suarez doesn't want to shake his hand thats his choice and dont call kenny for that lad instead have a pop at fergie for speaking out against liverpool so freely .

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:21:45
The best team won today lads and someone really needs to tell suarez to move on. Not helping himself or the club.
redl4fe

Spot on mate defo

What so suarez moves on and evras ok haha do me a favour lad he's got every right to stick for himself

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:21:33
For what it's worth here is my take on the game and other proceedings.

I would have liked to see Suarez take the moral high ground and shake Evra's hand. However, if he feels aggrieved and has a lake of respect for Evra as a man (not a race/colour) then he is entitled not to shake his hand. Evra overreacted and performed for the cameras. But if MU needed any extra motivation then Suarez gave them it.

Liverpool won the first 10-15 mins and the last 10-15 mins, MU were the better team for the rest. MU's running on and off the ball was more powerful and purposeful.

I'm disappointed but have no excuses.

Crazy Horse

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:20:12
MATCH Today

first off. i agree with jamie redknapp the handshake should of been removed because that was always gonna happen. also evra going into crowd to entise the lfc fans and swarez. if i was to walk down the street and someone came to me wanted to shake my hand and i did not want too then i have the right not too. but if i went upto someone to entise them i would get knocked out or the police called depending what i would have said etc

but saying all that
even though i am a lfc fan
they did just about deserve the win
we should of started with adam carrol and bellamy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:18:59
Who gives a toss about a handshake it means nothing anyway so why bother.
Bridge didn't shake Terry's hand Suarez didn't shake evras Ferdinand didn't shake suarezs hand who cares
We all know that we will get slaughtered for anything we did today and the situations has been made worse
Really worrying again for our club
Bean

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:16:59
That scumbag trouble maker FERGIE has just said suaerz is a disgrace to liverpool and should never play for us again.What the f''k has it got to do with him who plays for us !
This will never go away and he's doing his best all the time to continually discredit liverpool and yet were told to take it and move on, What b''''ks that is ans well done lous suarez for sticking up for yourself today while evra has looked for trouble whenever possible!
Evra is scum and not innocent and its been proved today both in the tunnel and at the end jumping up and down in front of suarez ! Fergie and Evra desreve each other.

Ooooooh can you taste the sour grapes lol

Grow up little man...Evra was the bigger man he offered his hand. Suarez is damaging Liverpools image.

Funny, he didn't say that when Cantona kicked that fan.

Or when Rooney kicked out in that England match!

Evra the bigger man jumping up and down in front of Suarez with simple no other intention than to rile his opponent yet no reaction from Suarez and evra is the bigger man. I'm afraid you are deluded. Watch the handshakes again, the two players prior to Suarez, evra holds his hand out for but for Suarez drops it down. He wanted to shake hands about as much as Suarez but was a little cleverer and made his opponent look like the lesser man. The guy is nothing more than a nasty calculated individual and always seems to come out smelling of roses. Mind you we are dealing with a man u/ Murdoch run sky/premier league. Hardly a level playing!
Cheers
Greggers

Man utd banned cantona for three months before the fa got involved

Fa spoke to utd and they acted before punishment.pair go hand in hand

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:14:30
A few things we can confirm after today and so far this season:

1. Daglish's tactics are not helping the chase for 4th place. Not just on today's performance but in previous games too. Liverpools reluctance to play a faster more attacking game is costing us valuable points in losses and draws.

2. Downing has been a poor signing. He has offered nothing. Worst signing of the bunch by far.

3. Lucas Leiva. No fault of his, but I honestly think his absence will mean we will not get 4th place.

4. Carroll. He is starting to show signs of form, but will still not be the same player he was at Newcastle if liverpool do not start playing a style that plays to his strengths....(makes you wonder why Daglish has brought him in as he decides the teams tactics)

5. Transfer....Daglish has made some bad mistakes with regards to transfers. People will blame Comolli, but at the end of the day the signings were Daglish's. There are many young talented players available at affordable price who Liverpool seem to ignore and allow to move to other teams.....and then sign over-priced British players. (e.g. Shaqiri, Cisse -Newcastle to name a couple)

6. If Liverpool are to get to 4th place we really need to change they way they go about games. They need to have a proper go at teams and shouldn't worry so much about conceding. What do we have to lose at this stage? We are 7th and need to start winning games as the season end is in sight now. We are in a cup final we should win which should give us Europa football for next season.

Agree or disagree? Let me know what you think.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:14:11
Before I start, I should point out that I am a Kenny fan and believe he is the right person for the job, however, I have some real reservations about the current team and how they are set to play. Not just because of todays performance and the events seen prior to and at the end of the game, but in general, the Manager and the Club has to get a grip on and off the field...

1. Why wouldn't the club insist the players behave in a certain fashion as part of the terms of their employment. Whether they want to or not, they must behave in the manner the club requires and which is in the best interests of the club. Now, I am sure Suarez feels aggrieved and I suspect Evra has lied about the whole episode, but it is done and Suarez should have behaved in a way expected and in the best interests of the club, not continue to put the club in a bad light. I suspect the owners will have something to say about today.....

2. We do not appear to be brave enough on the field and I believe it is because we do not have enough creativity and quality in the attacking third. For all the endeavour of Kuyt (and I adore his attitude and desire), he is not good enough technically. He would not be a starter in any other top 4 team. Downing, well I am almost lost for words. He has been appalling all season. I seriously struggle to recall any occasion where he has taken on and beaten a full back to deliver a clear goal scoring chance. He looks totally out of his depth and for me is a massive failure which has to be remedied? His first touch is terrible and he does not look like he even tries at times, particularly in 50/50 balls. Knowing how questionnable De Gea has been on crosses, and how Carroll has looked so much better in recent weeks, why didn't he start? That's what I mean with respect to the bravery comment. We should be brave enough and have the players in place to expect the midfield to be strong enough with 4 allowing a front two one of which would be Suarez roaming?

For me, we now need to cut our losses and move players on if they either fail to deliver or if they do not represent the club in the right way. Suarez has to be told to behave now or go. The club is bigger than any player and he has to understand that. The longer this continues, the bigger issue this will be for LFC.

I feel gutted, not only because of the result and performance today but also because the club will now be in the headlines for the wrong reasons. This must stop and we must be positioned positively moving forward.

What do others think?

ConnorsLFC

I agree mate
whatever feelings suarez has towards evra, suarez has let himself the fans and the club down who suppoted him through out, a bit disappointed with kenny also. you can only defend a persons behaviour so far

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:13:02
Amazing, Whiskey nose tells us who we should pick and not pick, this the man who backed the following players, EC, RK and WR, YET that is acceptable to all moral standings! Cheecky fukin tawts, WHO gives a f*** what the mancs or anyone else has to say, KK stood his ground with that dick Shreeves who by the way couldn't have his tongue and further up AF arse if he tried! It's time to batton down the hatches and circle the wagons as Sky have now made it the purpose to attack us and anyone who doubts it needs to wake up! - TMac

YES at last a true liverpool fan who sticks up for our club, well done TMac we need more like you mate

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:12:31
Suarez and Dalglish did nothing but bring shame on the club. A bad day for Liverpool. RFT

I'm proud of them both, Evra lied so Suarez stood by his priciples, and Kenny defended his players, i'm pretty sure Shankly would have done the same, now get back to the Manc page son!

MR EM

YA go back to sky and post your rubbish

MR EM i applaud your sir ! spot on mate this is the liverpool way lets fight for our name and club.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:11:45
I will hold my hand out and say that Man Utd deserved the win in the end.

I think Adam and Bellamy should have started though.

Downing contines to be a let down......I'm one for sticking by players but he was a poor buy

And yes people are going to continue to talk about this Suarez/Evra thing......with Suarez refusing to shake Evra's hand today adding to that.(and also with Kenny and the press having a recent spotlight in the media) the interview that Kenny conducted with Sky after today's game will only fuel the flame.

But we need to all stick together and try and hold out till the end of the season! Although I will be honest and way we are letting it slip away. Or should I say, we are making it hard for ourselves....I still believe....but will it be enough?

Y.N.W.A

K.Bennett

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:10:43
Go on the bitters!

Dublad

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:10:17
Anyways guys just chill..Chelsea are down.

Tekneek

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:08:59
I thought we played ok today the game changed on one truly awful refereeing decision. How was rio not sent off?

I thought suarez dangled the carrot and they took it so thats not our fault. But we are not going to get any decision at old trafford.

But kenny and the team are having a great season so keep it up boys. And wembley here we come. I also thought kennys interview was great. Sky are a joke and all they give is bad publicity to Liverpool.

Mighty reds

Thank you! Someone at last that can post something possitive, we're going in the right direction and one bad game does not change that!

MR EM

We didn't deserve to win or draw. Sorry to say, but can't blame the ref for our poor showing. The tackle was clean, unfortunately.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:08:45
Can we all set up a facebook page against the Lazy Journalim at Sky sports it's there to see shamless headline making making storys out of nothing they are half the problem to most things with football with intense coverage of every situation
regardless of being a Liverpool Fan they are getting away with murder

K.O.B

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:08:24
would Evra's behaviour at the the end of match be considered as inciting the crowd?

What would Suarez's refusal to shake Evra's hand be called?

What like refusing a handshake you mean

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:05:57
what happen when Bridge don't shake hand of Terry? anyone asking why that not happen ? F.A drop Chelsea and QPR handshake but continue with this match as focus will go from Terry to Suarez again. Suarez have the bad feeling about the lie mix up with a little truth.

In case of bridge and terry, bidge was the victim there and it was justified for him not to shake his hand
here evra is the victim and when he was eady o shake suarez hand, him refusing is stupid

EVRA a victim!! are you nuts the guy has tried on numerous occasions to get people banned - if you don't like someone then you don't shake their hand - simples. Evra offered his hand because he was in the wrong and it was a guilt trip and nothing more and what's been said about Ferdinand not shaking hands, absolute zip. See it for what it is two people who now hate each other - did Suarez shake Evra's hand at the begining of the first match of course he did, the press have escalated this as they always do.
KernowRed

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:05:46
We do not have any natural width in this team. Not one player who can take on the full back and get to the touch line. (downing never does it) No crosses for Carroll and no cut backs for Suarez and the midfielders. Address this together with a natural predator and we'll put more points on the board. If not, we'll stay where we are.

The Robin

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:05:19
suarez starting to become more trouble than hes worth

He scored did he not?

Why would you shake the hand of someone that Accused you of being something your not ,Did no one see what evra did at the end ?
Sky never said anything about that or posted anything on the site for that matter, its them and the likes of yourself that have made this what it is .And post your name the next time you have more rubbish to post.

Not the original poster, but agree with them. Evra's little dance of joy was ridiculous. Suarez was equally as ridiculous. Both players need to grow up as neither is innocent. Bottom line is we stunk it up out there and didn't earn any points from the match.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:04:50
I wrote earlier this week that I was looking forward for today's game to be history. I also noted that I doubted it would be enjoyable and feared for additional shameful incidents. I don't care about the result, this was a dreadful display for English football. However, there are still plenty of matches to be played and none of them are against United. The two clubs have seen enough of each other. And just for the record, I will humbly admit that I don't know if I would have been man enough to shake Evra's hand.

Canadian Fan

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:03:40
Totally outplayed today, first half started well enough but once united settled there was only 1 team that looked likely to win, start to the second half was a total disaster, serious lack of concentration for both goals, going forward we were terrible, Adam's ball in for the goal was the only decent delivery in 90 minutes, Saurez is a disgrace, he should be sold in the summer, he is dragging our great club through the mud, I don't know wether he is actually a scumbag or just incredibly niave, but either way I think we should be looking for the best deal possible for him during the summer, and bring in an actually goalscorer with out the baggage.

Gman82

Dont listen to what the media tell you just look at cantona the crap he caused and is still a legend.
k-h

I'm sorry but I think I'm able to make my mind up without the help of the media, who I actually pay no attention to as I see them as the government controlled propaganda tool that they are. Also as a student of anthropology I totally understand the issue of cultural diversity in the whole affair but if Suarez felt he had done nothing wrong then a simple handshake would have put the hole thing to bed, instead by refusing it he has brought the whole issue back up and damaged his own and the club's (who will obviously and rightly back their player) reputations.

Gman82

Look again at the handshake and tell me what you see
k-h

Maybe you see something different but to me Suarez refuse to shake hands, now its not like I think that refusing to shake hands is a big deal there are plenty of people who I wouldn't shake hands with, but its the context of this whole scenario, there is always something with Suarez, he is a liability in the team, and I think he should be sold to the highest bidders, just out of interest what do you see when you watch the handshake?

Gman82

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:03:04
It was great to see the team trying to put pressure on united when we were 2 down real hunger kenny must of got them well up for it NOT.. Dam disgrace of a performance there didn seem to be any fight or desire to close united down or put pressure on them kenny is a great man I love him to bits but he got everything wrong from tactics till starting line up well done united you wanted it more, Pauric

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:01:59
I'm worried about suarez now
Can't help but think that the fa will take more action against him
Bean

Why? Because he didn't shake Evra's hand? They can choose not to shake hands. Evra done himself no favours at the end of the game, will the FA punish him?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

rio ferdinand also refuse to shake hand with suarez.

They cant take action for refusing to shake A players hand but Suarez really is his own worst enemy.Today he let the club down badly and when you look at his history you have to worry about what he is capable of in the future.Great player he may be but i would rather see him move on in the summer i just hope we get 4th so we are able to get the quality needed to replace him
ted

What for? not shaking hands? dont be soft lad.

Why would they.... its a matter of choice to shake the oppositions hand, theres no ruling saying you must,or must not, his CHOICE, it looked a lot worse bacause evra grabbed his arm, everyone has choices, he made his an now has to live by it....

RED4lifeNOTjust4XMAS

 

 

11 Feb 2012 15:01:17
Really disappointed with the result we were second best all day. Midfield was out played and there was little support up front. Didn't agree with suarez starting and was disappointed with his behaviour. Evra was the bigger man and suarez has prolonged the whole episode and heaped pressure on the club and kenny. He hasnt done the club or himself any favours and the media will crucify us even more.

Dar88

Who cares what the media think they have been really good to liverpool over the years before suarez came or were they?
k-h

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:58:41
Think we learned quite a lot from today. Sure, we're all devastated, but we learned and Kenny better not make the same mistake.

Downing: He's terrible. I've supported him ever since we bought him and I just don't understand anymore. He didn't at all look the player he was when we bought him, he was awful. Absolutely awful. He just doesn't have the confidence, when Bellamy runs at players he has no fear, when Downing runs at them he passes the ball back to Enrique, I just don't get it.

Gerrard: Don't get me wrong, this man has been my favorite player for the last 13 years of my life, but he isn't the player he once was. Had a few flashes of brilliance but I think he would make a far better impact player than a first team. I think Shelvey/Henderson should be playing the position.

Suarez: Sometimes he has it, sometimes he doesn't. I honestly hope he starts to fire soon, but Carroll needs to play next to him, I hope they both start the next game.

Just a note about Gerrard, I'm not trying to be one of those 'OH HE HAD A BAD GAME, TAKE HIM OFF' people, I sincerely think he would be a much better impact player rather than a first starter in the team, just my opinion. I love the lad a lot, I just think he's running low on time.

Thoughts?

RenegadeRed

Gerrard Running low on Time when Scholes and Giggs on the opposite side 6-7 years older than Gerrard are doing just fine?

No Mate the problem is quite simple a lack of quality to play alongside Gerrard.

Liverpool have many problems and a new winger and a striker are only going to paper over the cracks, the crux of the problem lies much deeper.

Blinko

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:58:28
Since when did Gerard become a CB? We really need to quit playing so defensively all the time. I just don't get it.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:57:47
2nd time we get a goal in same style corner no one Back up 2nd Post. it's common oposition taking corner u must stand your both post. not a bad first half but Downing look missing. Gerrard have ok 1st half but he miss his old energy style to cover up both DM to AM. Adam should start the match.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:56:53
eds if we get isla in the summer is it fer back up fer kelly or for first team football.
ps great work on this site keep it up.
{Ed001's Note - first team, for right mid and right back.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:56:24
Go king kenny give it to the sky interviewer in the tunnel. That bloke has tried to throw more rubbish at us but for all you lot who slag kenny have a look at it and see kenny always sticks up for our great club and as for that horrible ratboy having a pop at liverpool he is in no way inpartial
and shouldn't analyse liverpool-united matches.

Kenny got it wrong today again... We were awful... How many times this year has he got it wrong.....? Everytime we play a poorer sided and now today....is kenny finally being found out?

Angry red

Its unfair on Kenny to always be put in awkward positions by Suarez needs to toe the line no one is bigger than Liverpool Fc

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:54:29
What an embarrassing day. I can't think of any positives.

Team selection wrong. Tactics wrong.

Scoring goals and creating chances has been our biggest problem this season so why leave our three of our top four players for goals and assists on the bench in Adam, Carroll and Bellamy. How many games have we played with Suarez up-front on his own and has simply not worked. He cannot play that role. Carroll in his last four games has scored against Wolves as well as assists against Bolton and United and generally playing really well, holding the ball up and bringing people into the game. He did not deserve to be dropped. Every time we had the ball there was no outlet up-front. We just knocked it around the midfield and back to the defenders before knocking it long.

When Kenny took over one of the things that become clear was a return to the pass-and-move football that gave the club great success in the past, it was great to watch again even though we never got the results the performances deserved. However, lately Kenny seems to have sacrificed his principles in favour of two rows of defenders and midfielders. We don't even seem to pressing the opposition when their on the ball any-more.

One of the reasons I wanted Rafa out was because the longer he was at the club the worse the football had become. Towards the end it had become unbearable to watch. But this game reminded me of that final season Rafa was in charge.

I don't know who was responsible for those tactics and formation but Kenny needs to take hold of this team and get them back playing the way he believes the game should be played. I still back him 100% to bring success to the club but he must return to his principles. These tactics were overly negative against a United team that is not even that good.

Lastly, something needs to be done about Suarez. He is bringing too much negativity to the club. This was his opportunity to be the bigger man and shake Evra's hand and draw a line under the whole sorry issue. Instead we will be written about and spoken about for all the wrong reasons yet again. I don't care that Ferdinand never shook Suarez's hand, that his problem and his issue.

JRG

Totally agreed. Should have started Bellamy and Carroll instead of Suarez and Downing. Then the whole ridiculous handshake thing would have never happened. Sorry, but that was poor from Suarez- sometimes you have to be the bigger man and let your football talk for you. Also getting a tad weary of always playing so defensively. We're not going to score and win games with a 9-0-1 formation.

So JRG do you think if sarez had shook hands with the evra that we would not of had the disgusting behaviour were evra was trying to goad suarez in to trouble and may i also say did suarez take the bate no he behaved impeciably and just walked off the pitch evra's antics were insighting a crowd which has a prison sentance if found guilty .I also noticed you do not mention the way a certain england captain refused to sheke Suarezs hand as for Kenny he is doing what he thinks best for liverpool fc and I suggest if your not happy join up with mancs if your not really already one

And you Fergie wouldn't have noticed Carroll's form? He must have prepared for that so I think it was a good try of KK to try and trick him, but it obviously didn't work out. And for god's sake don't judge Suarez by one handshake. It's his choice, just like how it was Ferdinand's.

PITSILFC

Good post. I am a United fan and its so refreshing to hear an unbiased view of Suarez from a L'pool fan

In my opinion he is totally lacking morals and does not do your club any favours

Rio should probably not have sunk to his level but it's obvious that he only refused to shake Suarez hand as he had done to Evra. If Suarez was not man enough to shake Evra's hand when it was offered, then he probably doesnt deserve a handshake from United's other players. It's supposed to be about respect after all

Gav

2nd reply. I think you will find I did mention Ferdinand not shaking Suarez's hand so get your facts right. Maybe if Suarez had shaken Evra's hand he might not acted like he did at the end. The point is Suarez gave him an excuse to act like that which should never have been given.

PITSILFC

I am not judging Suarez on one incident. I wish it was an isolated incident. But since he has been at the club he is always in the news for one reason or another, usually negative. Tell me did you give El Hadji Diouf this kind of backing when he was bringing shame on our club or is it just reserved for good players?

JRG

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:53:26
Its very disappointing that we lost to United and even more disappointing was the way we played today. But I believe, we'd come back stronger, hope so. And would do well next time and in the games ahead. C'mon Liverpool. This is not getting good. You'll never walk alone.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:51:46
I just wanted to say something about the handshake reject by Suarez. I am sure he had thought about it and KK must have spoken to him about it too. I believe it is his personal decision not to shake Evra's hand, especially when he feels he has done no wrong. I understand his frustration and I think every LFC fan should. Let's get behind out No. 7.

PITSILFC

Get behind him? The amount of negativity that man brings to your club increases by the game?!

JWalk

He just missed 8 games. Then another for fingering the Fulham fans. The whole club needs him to step up and he didn't. He might has well told the LFC owners to go f themselves. They are businessmen, and Suarez is hurting business.

You're a Manc JWalk, so what do you know?

Seriously?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Yet it was said player (Suarez) that scored our only goal in 2 games. Funny how you slate him yet when he scores you no doubt love him. On a seperate note seriously unhappy about today. I always thought Dalglish should have been an iterim Manager only and it seems as if i'm right. Things need to change and i hope that in the summer the owners do the right thing and get a more suitable managerial team in to do the job.

Jim102929

I 'disagree'

Suarez was found guilty by an independant panel (not even related to the FA let alone Man Utd). He has showed a total lack of respect towards Evra and towards the Premier League in general

I dont understand Suarez and Dalglish's determination to make this matter drag on and on with petty comments in press conferences and petty actions on the pitch

Gav {Ed001's Note - are you mad? The panel consisted of an FA barrister, an FA member and I forget who the 3rd one was, but they were far from independent and unconnected.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:51:09
Downing-waste of money! If I was to describe him in 2 words they would be totally useless!

Mate, have to agree. He really and truly looks void of talent. Last year was his only 'good' season, and Villa sold him at just the right time for an exorbatant price. Still with no goals or assists. Thank god he got a yellow, so that he could atleast make the stats sheet

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:50:18
Terrible game today wrong formation goodbye CL.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:49:45
I thought our team was on way up n we bought those expensive english players because they will give passion n commitment but sorry to say they r average at best.
And united were suppose to be in decline.
God we were so awful n boring n what got me was total surrender.

Guess all will be ok when we win the micky mouse cup.

This was painfull to watch.

Red indian

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:49:19
Today's loss went down to poor tactics,not to how bad the team is imo. If we had attacked and pressured them from the start i think we could've gotten something cos we are well capable. But again I have to say Downing has been a very bad buy. Andy's poor form is coming to an end and to me that's the only thing that's kept downing out of the spotlight. Further than that i have no complaints. I never expect us to get anything at old toilet cos we always hammer them at anfield anyway.
Capetownred

Was it not a draw at Anfield in the league?

Gav

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:48:11
remind me, is Downing in the current England setup?

Does he have other plans for the summer, instead of representing his country at Euro 2012?

Hopefully downing has a transfer planned for summer, i used to rate him highly, but hasnt lived up to expectations..

RED4lifeNOTjust4XMAS

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:47:47
please kenny dont ever play downing again

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:47:03
BOOM! Out played! didn't deserve the goal

Yep we were terrible but at least we are man enough to admit it.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:46:07
reina, our defence including johnson, bellamy, suarez lucas, gerrard (who is aging) and suarez is the only quality players we have, our weak areas is midfield central and wing positions, also a top striker to partner suarez. lets see carroll was suppose to be that but he aint, henderson suppose to replace gerrard but he aint good enough, downing was bought for the wing and is average. overall a few good buys by kenny, but the most important signings which we invested heavily in, are costing us and kenny's position. RedTurk

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:46:05
What a poor performance by the Reds, no effort, no energy, no passion, just crap!

Totally disagree we lost for one reason and one reason alone Luis wound the Utd players up just before half time making Fergie's team talk the easiest he'll ever have resulting in 2 goals in 5 minutes after half time. We looked rattled, Utd looked fired up and the game was lost. Kenny needs to hold his hands up and say he got it wrong. Luis should have started on the bench and Downing shouldn't have even been on the bench. Winding up a team like Utd is bad tactically and strategically and I'm surprised that a someone as experienced as Kenny didn't recognise that. If the situation had been defused we could have won that game.

I don't really understand how you can say no Passion? Did you not see the arguments down the tunnel?

Im sure he would have got his players going they were at home and a very tough team to beat at home so dont luis.
k-h

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:45:51
We looked a beaten team with 20 minutes to play. Heads went down noticeably Gerrard's. Even after the goal back there was no energy, drive or passion to get the equaliser. Don't mind getting beaten if we put 100% in but that effort was disappointing.

Gordy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:45:17
The sooner we drop Gerrard the sooner we can move forward as a team!

Yes I know I'm gonna get stick but it's true. Gerrard isn't the player he once was.

PJRED

And play WHO instead of him??

Done talk rubbish. Who is gerrards replacement then? Steven gerrard is a quality player do you see man utd sayin that about giggs get a grip

I agree and i hate to say it but there you go

Anyone that thisnks that Gerrard was gonna come back ito the team and be his old self is just deluding themselves. for the amount of time he has been ut of the team, he was always gonna need at least half a season to get back to where he was.

Steve

Gerrard? He was the only guy playing for long stretches today. If only he had Henderson's legs. Henderson is always lost when he gets the ball, ditto Downing. Unfortunately, the only thing good about today is that surely the owner's will realize that Kenny and co are not the answer.

Weeyams

Open your eyes people Steven Gerard is finished. Downing kuyt Carroll Adam Henderson r not good enough to play for Liverpool.this team has no pace and they kill every counter attack with there over passing and lack of pace.

Im a United fan and I must concur with the replies that you are a little wide of the mark!

Gerrard is just back from injury and has been relied upon heavily in recent weeks. If you had a better squad and could afford to ease him back in gently (eg. 20-30 mins at the end of games) you wouldnt be making such knee-jerk remarks about him IMO

He'll be important for L'pool for the next 2 years at least surely

Gav

See told you I would get stick but some of you just can't let go.

Gerrard just isn't the player he was....I love Gerrard as mush as the next man but when Gerrard play we play as a team! When Gerrard does play everything goes through him and other players feel restricted.

I say lets give Adam a more advance role and become the paly maker.

PJRED

Steven Gerrard: Unquestionably, HAS been the greatest Liverpool player, that's some statement and some achievement. His game has been built around going box-to-box, incredibly strong going forward, incredibly strong tackling back, he's been for so long like having 1.5 or even 2 players extra on the field. But there is only so long a player can play that kind of game for. Maybe Gerrard still has it in him, but he is back after a very long injury. We may have to fact facts that we may never see again the old Gerrard. But he has a huge role to play still for Liverpool as a sole player, either a

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:44:34
Just to try and pre-empt any moaning or criticism...(and sticking to football)

I'm delighted with the effort and commitment we showed today and glad there were no red cards.

You don't go to OT and *expect* to win. You need every player to be on top of their game, a little bit of luck and for United to not be at their best.

Beaten fair and square with no dodgy decisions.

Proud of the lads.

Matt S - YNWA

What effort we were boring and slow and not closing down it just made for bad viewing.

To be honest I disagree with you...Anything is possible in football and if you have the heart and passion you can win against anyone.Liverpool have fans who want their team to win or even try to win..We were not good at all today and Downing is rubbish..And the occasion was so big the players should have picked themselves up for the game..But no matter what happens I will support the club even in the worst of times.

YNWA
Red PG

What game did you watch,how can you be delighted with the effort and commitment,there was none, we showed no desire to win we were pathetic.

Derek

Your kidding yourself Matt S. It was a complete and utter garbarge performance with little effort, passion or intensity shown. United were hardly at their best, its not even their first choice team muppet!

Steve

United weren't at their best, we were just worse. I'm all for looking for the positives, but there's no point in denying a poor performance, and that's what we saw today. 3 shots on goal, and there was 80 minutes between the 1st and 2nd, that can't be ignored.

Rugby Parker

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:44:25
Really no hunger or passion to try and win the game apart for the last 10 mins after we had scored...same story as last seasons 3-2 fixture only different personnel...why would u want to get only 1 point against ur rivals in such a high tensed match should have gone for it from the starting if the players need some help to be motivated for a game of this stature then that is not good

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:44:21
Dreadful game and dreadful performance, didn't realise downing was playing until he came off. I wouldn't crow too much mancs as you were awful as well, a lot of average millionaires out there today.

Adman

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:44:14
Not just based on today but I hope kk has a 100 mil to spend in the summer. We are no where near with the current squad. What kk is trying to do looks good but the players need 3 or 4 top top players to move us forward. I fully expect 5 or 6 departures

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:43:50
Anyone else here sick of sky pundits with their noses up man utd all the time!!

*sour grapes*

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:42:44
In life you can only get what you try to get!
We have not tried to win today and what have we got exactly what we deserve,nothing.
No passion no desire = no Champions League.

Derek

PS only noticed Downing playing when he got yellow card and when he was substituted.

PPS JUST SEEN THE FIRST PASSION OF THE DAY FROM OUR PLAYERS IN AFTER MATCH HANDBAGS HOW PATHETIC WHERE WAS THAT PASSION FOR 90 MINUTES?

Derek

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:40:30
Dear liverpool fans i am so so dissapointed by the performance by our captain gerrard he was so poor..as well as our whole team plus our manager i dont know wht he thinks of his team selection how they have set up ..no pressure on the ball..from liverpooll players i cant see liverpooll finishing in top four after watching today performance absolutely poorrrrrrrrrrr........after today's match and his tactics kenny is far more answerable to the club fans as well as the whole liverpool for his setup..ridiculous..if he still win cups i dont want a negative person like him..as our manager...after two gaols he is still waiting and bringing on changes after 13 min,...absolutely gutted......love liverpooll but i am so so heart today by the performance..today ....ridiculous decision...by the manager..as well as poor performance..

What is Gerrard supposed to do? Win against a Champion team on the their pitch on his own?

Sam armchair

Orginal poster what a pathetic effort of a post, Tip for you mate dont bother.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:37:25
Just think I'll post while the match is on to beat the scouse bleating about how Ferdinand should have been sent off and how the ref was biased towards Manu. Firstly Suarez had an opportunity to put the sordid racism row to bed, but decided to ensure he stirs up the game before it starts “ and to be honest, it should have been the other way round, Evara should have declined the handshake. Also Ferdinand tackle was a good tackle. Manu played Liverpool of the park at times and deserved their lead. Liverpool tactically were inept at times.

At the Mo the game is 2-1 and Manu look like they are gonna get the points... never mind eh. Also, bar the goal what did Suarez actually do?

confused.com

Hows life out of the FA cup mate?

Tommy Tank

Only in the 7 minutes it took to score 2 goals were Utd on top, They looked average at best, Liverpool were just toothless up front. Agree Suarez should have accepted the handshake. Liverpool need an out and out goalscorer, should not have lost that one, but true to form we under perform at the most inopportune moment.

Why should suarez shake hands with a liar? The only thing that should have been "the other way around" was Evra getting banned. Anyway no complaints about the game. We didn't deserve to win.

Tekneek

Your name says all there is to say. robbie

More than Kuyt, and he, Suarez has paid for his crime!

Ha ha ha you tool....we were poor but he got a goal, and thats what hes there for....evara did nothing in the game also but you wont comment on that will you?....come back and post at the end of the season when you've not won anything..... your out of the domestic cups and city will wil the league and the europa.... look forward to hearing from you then.


moneysupermarket.com

Did he lie? I was under the impression that suarez admitted it? dont post rubish

Did evra lie ?

I could have sworn Suarez was found guilty by an independant panel of 3? I could have sworn that one of the points that came out about Suarez from the panel's findings was that he had changed his story many times? So it was he who he lied then?! {Ed001's Note - did you also notice that it was pointed out that Evra had changed his story a number of times as well?}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:37:23
Need to show more hunger and spirit next time i think.

Tommy Tank.

Total lack of hunger
the amount of ball possession lost to opposition is criminal

Kenny has to take part of the blame today bad team selection but we'll just move on.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:36:50
No excuses today, we were awful. United were the better side and deserved the 3 points.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Blair mate i have to agree, with you but only in the secnd half. i don't think suarez should have started i think he should have been a second half sub. we were sub par today and if the players can't get themselves up for this fixture than the future look bleak. i am going to put this down to a bad day at the office. i don't think(i still hope we do) we will get fourth so go for both cups, might as well get something from this season.
huddz red

Have to agree blair. best team won.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

Agree, not a lot of passion there.

AG

How good was the referee today ! I thought he did a briliant job and slag them off all the time to my shame

Poor performance, definitely didn't deserve anything, but it was always gonna be tough even firing on all cylinders. Downing really is struggling for form, and when wingers struggle, they look absolutely dire.

Rugby Parker

Im glad to see you keep your sensible posts for the L'pool page Blair ; )

Gav

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:30:28
Adam has looked very comfortable since coming on.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:28:58
hodgson must be laughing!

What about being included in the alledged list for the england job let me tell you I pissed myself laughing to

Its a bloody joke. we should have kept him at least we would have expected this sort of inept sh$@e.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:25:28
Is there a second leg?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:25:13
Yeah get Suarez off he's crap, should never have started.....hang on a minute...

Chris in Tamworth

What for ? Utd to get 3 you dickhead

I could have scored that one, don't change the fact he had poor game. Blind faith here. He is a great player but had poor game (not the only one), don't shoot the messenger view the game in total, you can't judge his performance by one goal

I'm a dickhead? For pointing out that a player that people didn't want to play actually scored? What a tw@t!
As for Suarez performance, it wasn't good but it has to be said, the goal proved he is, at the moment, our only real threat when Bellamy can't play.
Do you understand my point now or need pictures?

Chris in Tamworth

Still equating goal = good performance. Could draw you a picture but might be too complicated for you, seeing as you are struggling to use yours eyes to see how poor Suarez was

Who said goal= good performance certainly not me, try reading what I said not making up your own version

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:24:57
No doubt you'll all change your tune now you fickle bloody lot!
The Goatherder
JFT96

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:24:04
yessssssssssssss!!!
come on, get behind the team!
Paul Mc

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:23:54
To be honest its been a disgraceful performance...suarez is our only real player.

KingMiz

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:23:07
Gerrard is finished

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:21:41
£110 m in transfers, 7th in league after 25 games with 39 points. Is this really progress?

Ash

£110 million? Not very good at maths are you son?

From a position of 12 when KK took over

4 points of fourth from

Final of the league cup

5th round of the FA cup

Yes that's progress!

MR EM

Liverpool have improved no end since last season.... it was always going to be a tough game and the difference between the 2 teams was Spearings mistake.

What do you want, Ash, you whinging g*t? All you ever do is moan. Let me show you the full half of the glass:

Less than 40m net spent
Final of the Carling Cup
Still in the FA cup
Still a chance for 4th

All you can do is cry and pretend you are a supporter. At least redturk doesn't fake it like you. Grow up

cozinoz

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:20:45
hey lfc fans

i didnt expect us to win today...i think trying to win a cup is a more realistic goal

but iv noticed that we never have many shots on goal
and that we seem clueless once we go closer to the opponents goal
i think that is more worrying to me...this season


im really annoyed with downing today and i was glad he came to lfc
i wish i cud say to him....just take the full back on...if he tackles u ..no problem..keep going..u know!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:20:23
KK got it wrong today, picking Suarez because he's entitled to smacks of stubbornness not intelligence. Suarez should never have started it upset our balance not uniteds. Remember no one is bigger than the team, including the manager who wants to misguidedly prove his point

Agree with post, his goal masked poor overall display. Not helped by the rest of the team looking lathargic and directness. Downing was even worse!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:18:47
god what has happened to us this half, we don't even look like we can be bothered anymore, we just look so flat now. totally different side from the first half.
huddz red

Well done suarez, lets see if we can pick this last ten minutes up

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:16:03
For fecks sake, what's up with you lot. Get behind the team and Kenny and give it a bloody rest slagging them off!
The Goatherder
JFT96

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:15:52
Quite a sobering experience watching today. Suarez lack of sportsmanship all the more evident after a thumping.

Don't think Kenny had it right again, but the glearing switch of Downing for Bellamy is almost unexplainable. If his knees are bad, why is he on now?

Not making predictions or anything, but really, even the diehard Kenny fans must have a few questions. Suarez should not have started, and certainly should have been taken off at half just for lack of sportsmanship.

Game should be 5 - 0 . Very embarrassed today.

GW

Taken off for lack of sportsmanship?! You having a laugh? If he feels he's been falsely accused of racism why on earth would he shake his accusor's hand?!

Kieran.

@ Kieran - because he was found guilty and everyone else apart from Suarest/Kenny have moved on.........

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:13:28
We were rattled by the half time histrionics which is why Kenny made a bad decision to start with Luis.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:12:46
Do the players know we are losing?

Gazman

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:11:38
Downing is just awful, shows no passion whatsoever. The worst summer buy by far.

Did you see him have the cheek to mutter to himself when he was subbed. total failure and i would cut my losses tomorrow on him.

taffytel

Downing awful, Kuyt awful, Henderson awful, Gerrard awful...... hang on the whole team was bl$%$y awful today

JRF Red

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:09:20
We are making progress my ass

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:07:36
Caroll has 3 great games on the bounce - guess what? Dropped. Kenny out now

You are an idiot.
were you submitting any posts when we beat both manc teams?
I doubt it...
Paul Mc

Carroll has 3 ok games on the bounce - guess what? You're a knob! Kenny will be just fine

Chris in Tamworth

I bet 4 games ago you were slagging Carroll off.

Has Carroll been better than what he was? Yes! Is carroll good enough to be liverpool's number 9? Im afraid the answer is still no! Can someone explain to me how a 6ft 5 center forward can be outjumped by a right back about 2 feet shorter? On 3 occaisions by my count!

steve

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:07:29
And the moaning and slagging of our own players begins.

MR EM

I suppose you're happy with the performance then?

It's the disappointment and a definite realisation that we're still light years from being anywhere near the top 3. We've not even looked like scoring. If this game finished now it'll be 3 away games to the top 3. 3 defeats. No goals scored and 9 conceded.

It is hard to take when we're getting dicked by a team we seem to think is on the way down.

Having said that, if you don't want to support what we have, nobody is forcing you too
AD

Top 3? I would be happy with top 6!! Sunderland are hot now, and will be past us soon

''I suppose you're happy with the performance then?''

What does that have to do with anything? Constructive critisism is fine, but if you have the ability to read (which i doubt) you will see i wrote ''moaning and slagging off'', there is a BIG difference sonny

MR EM

After this performance the moaning and slagging is well deserved.

Steve

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:06:54
Don't we practise crossing?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:06:35
4-4-2...going to be an open game now...
Paul Mc

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:05:22
Sigh. Nothing ever changes does it?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:05:08
Downing is ridiculous

Agree. His first yellow in 143 games tells it all: he doesn't defend. Since he can't produce either, why play him? Why Kenny? The money? Its not your money!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:05:03
Spearing - useless; Downing useless, time they were replaced

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:03:36
Luis Suarez is awesome, i love the guy, but you've got to ask yourself, was it wise to play him today. When he's on his game he's unstoppable, but when the red mist drops his game goes to pieces. Just an observation.

Sooty

I think in hindsight the eds were right in saying Suarez shouldn't have played today. I think the whole occasion has effected the team and as a result we are having a poor performance. Carroll should has started the game as we was on a good run of form, Hendo is not for the left if you ask me, we see a better player central with him. Anyhow good news my pipe has thawed and i have water again!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:03:33
where is downing? henderson and spearing? no support in attack, no wonder suarez is frustrated. 2 of those are kenny's players but they are not good enough.RedTurk

And guess what your back on the site when were 2-0 down at old trafford and your moaning again. Go crawl under your rock mate you such a boring man, honestly you bore me soooooo much. YNWA

Scottybhoy1888

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:03:07
Downing needs to go off bring on Bellemy go 442

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:02:40
Our dead ball delivery has been poor in just about every game this season. Frustrating to see the likes of Adam, Downing, Stevie etc fail to get the ball beyond the first man time and time again.
The Goatherder
JFT96

 

 

11 Feb 2012 14:01:32
If he doesn't take Henderson and kyut off it proves he hasn't got a clue!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:59:50
this is embarrissing now, 2-0 down already. why not put bellamy?. why put henderson, spearing?.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:59:33
Posted twice before, and stated that Johnson was not good enough for Liverpool, and everyone disagreed, hate to say it but guess what? i was right, at fault for both of the goals there, lazy, never tracked Rooney's run both times, one word for him, USELESS, and it reallly irritates me that Bellamy is one of the best attacking players on the team, in superb form and he benches him, Kenny sort it out !!

Spearing 100% at fault for second goal.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:58:51
need to keep our heads, regroup and some subs...carroll and belamy on for kuyt and downing.
come on liverpool!
Paul Mc

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:57:59
Seriously downing...

Tekneek

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:57:38
dont see what suarez has done wrong. not shaking evras hand is his choice. it cant be forced on him. why werent the handshakes cancelled in the first place. i remeber this happening between john terry and bridge. why is the media making it such a big deal. why r they so anti liverpool.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:57:14
so everyone can now see jay spearing is average after all?RedTurk

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:56:55
Downing has to go at the end of the season.

Ash

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:56:48
Rooney finding acres of space without much pressure

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:56:24
I am sorry that I have to say that we are a mediocre team, but Kenny was admitted that with his defense tactis.Great teams are not afraid of anybody, you play to win and hope for, and this .... SERBIAN RED

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:56:12
Dalglish needs to sort out the negative tactics and suarez needs to go to another club ive had enough of him

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:54:17
what a bunch of rubbish

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:51:47
Luis did Ferguson's team talk for him, Kenny needs to show a bit more leadership.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:49:24
Bellamy on for kuyt.
Carroll on for Henderson.

Reina
Johnson skertl agger Enrique
Spearing Gerrard
Bellamy Suarez downing
Carroll

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:49:14
Kenny should have substituted Luis to take him out of the firing line.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:48:33
There would be no way I would've shook the little s..ts hand either.what do people want,them to give eachother a big hug. Just wish Ferdinand wasn't in the way and he wouldve walked for taking Suarez out.

Gally

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:48:25
Good to see Jamie Redknapp stick up for Louis , Fletcher must be whisky nose's child has way to much to say

Evera is looking to cause trouble bring Bellemy on

and Sky Sports F**K of all s**te Journalists , no talent all they do is concentrate on the negatives for a cheap headline

really s**te channel

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:47:30
Bring on bellamy, he's spice it up a bit.
Suares to Score second with Bellamy on.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:45:48
I think Dalglish needs to talk to Suarez because what he has done with the handshake is not liverpool style

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:44:59
Suarez is a ticking time bomb today. We need Caroll on, the team are playing in his style not Saurez

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:41:57
reports of a bust up in tunnel

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:40:00
Suarez should have just carried on running instead of going down clean through

He was caught (no foul) no way he could stay up

Chris in Tamworth

Bit difficult when you've lost your balance

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:38:55
suarez is doing nothing on the pitch we have to get him off and bellers on at half time. he should not have been involved today and certainly not started. he is now losing it and kk has to act.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:36:36
Was it just me or did you notice that Sky Sports had moved the adverts? Normally the adverts come on just as the players leave the tunnel and they never show the handshakes?

Today though the adverts where on well before the players where in the tunnel.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:31:41
Who would have thought Downing was such a good defensive midfielder when we bought him? Get Bellamy on quick!

-Shane.

Has anyone heard of this company?

Henderson & Downing

No win or your money back!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:27:43
Don't really know what to think about the Suarez handshake, I maintain my belief he is innocent and I have a very little opinion of Patrcie Evra and in one sense I would of not shaken his hands, but it is a very provactive and rash thing to do.

I'm split.

maka
YNWA JFT96

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:25:07
Andy is just stating facts unnamed Spud. Arry wants the England job, Modric wants to go to Chelski and VDV will go to anyone, who will let him play 50-55 mins every match, maybe City?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Blair, you spend so much time on the Spurs site I swear your a closet Spur! As for Modric wanting to go to Chelsea, I think the way things have gone this season may just have changed his mind.Chelsea are struggling to hold on to 4th (although you lot wont catch them, Europa League again lads, enjoy) while Spurs are riding high and playing best football in the PL (deny that if you can) as for VDV leaving, we resurrected his career and he absolutely loves it in London so why would he go. I suggest you'd be better off discussing why, cup runs aside, you lot are so dull and disappointing this season

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:23:55
Think we need carroll he's a big physical presence and someone to aim for carroll on for kuyt.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:21:49
At this moment this side is the worst pass and move team we've ever had so static that's why we give the ball away all the time.
Kp

You don't remember Hodgson's team then do you?

Billfaethetoun

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:51:18
How disgraceful are Man Utd. But I'm sure the media etc are already thinking up ways to justify the Mancs' behaviour just now.
Capetownred

 

 

11 Feb 2012 13:07:53
Can't believe Saurez did not shake hands, with that one gesture this whole thing could have been put to bed a bit, but know it is going to carry on. Very very dissapointed in Saurez and to some degree Kenny
Dr. A

Dont agree, i am pleased he refused to shake his hand

What about ferdinand
soul man

How was kenny to know that luis was going to do that you muppet, it didn't help that evra played it up to the camera either.
huddz red

Suarez begaviour in that first half was awful. I really thought he'd have more brains than that, the way he hammered the ball into the dugout area after the whistle went, childish. And this after he was dumd enough not to shake Evras hand. Im sorry, i am not going to say Suarez out but that is simply not the Liverpool way and he is bringing shame to our club. Kenny has to have a word or discipline him because he's getting worse not better.
KiwiRed

Are you really bothered? i think it was a statement from louis that he knows that he was wronged. evra tried again to stir it up by moaning that he offered his hand and louis refused it. get over it robbie

Oh and what about rio lack of handshake.


sweetcorn

In one way I agree with you. I think Suarez should have shook his hand because Kenny was expecting him to. But, a few weeks ago everyone laughed at Blatter when he said all these racist arguments could be fixed by a handshake between players. We all knew that was a stupid thing to say so why was everyone (media, fans etc) presumming that a handskae would fix everything?

The facts of the matter are that Suarez should have shaken his hand because Kenny, the owners and the club would have wanted to put the issue to bed. He didn't because he clearly hates Evra....but can the club keep taking the headlines?

-Shane.

I've been a strong supporter of Luis and cannot abide the media misrepresentation and apparent bias but there is a time when you have to show that you're the bigger man. All he's done is enable the media to have another pop at the club. He needs to get his head down, stop the hysterics and focus on scoring goals and creating chances for his team.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:45:53
there's another negative headline with the handshake.
not that im to worried about it but you know what the press and manc fans are like.

Who told him to do that what a plonker?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:38:05
Early morning over here. C'mon you Redmen. Let's have at them. Got a good feeling. enjoy it lads.

The Thruff

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:22:49
Now that it looks like England are going to get the manager that apparently the supporters want, the FA want and the press and media want will it mean that when they fail again everyone will finally have to admit that it's the players that aren't good enough?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:15:39
lol what was with the carroll video. i guess he was expected to start. the video made him look class

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:15:16
Really disappointed to see Carroll on the bench. This just proves that kenny has no faith and has disrupted his flow when personally I believe that big andy has been great in the past few games. If he now goes back to being his lazy donkey like self then we all know who to blame?
Bean

Carroll even though he improved in a few games is still not good enough, sorry if it hurts its the truth.RedTurk

RedTurk your entitled to your opinion,but who says it the truth? You ha ha. You only come on here when we play s**te. Don't hear from you when we play well. Tink your a jinx RedTurk.
Jonson

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:13:35
Truly cannot believe that Bellamy has not started, i would have played bellamy on the left, kuyt on the right and suarez upfront, all rotating with gerrard and adam playing in the centre, spearing sitting in front of kelly, agger, skrtel and enrique with Pepe 'The Monk' Reina in net. Would have been a.stronger line up than one named, but oh well, time to back the kings men!

On another note, i got Agger first goal 1-2 liverpool win at 245-1! The same with Kuyt was 100-1 with Willy Hills, good punts i believe.

Anfield Andy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:12:36
De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Rio, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Rooney and Welbeck.

Bench: Amos, Berbatov, Cleverley, Park, Chicharito, Fabio, Pogba.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:05:39
Disappointed carroll isn't starting, he's getting better every game and I thought he and Suarez showed more chemistry in that 30min against spurs than they have in a whole year since they arrived!! No Bellamy either!! Ah well, i trust king Kenny.

Ryan.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:09:38
Carroll Adam bellamy on bench... Would have started Bellamy but if we are still int the game at 60mins we have good changes to bring on, but I'm sure if result don't go out way this is easy pickings for fans to slate kenny for.

G BOX

Why is it? kenny picked his best team possible, carroll is not good enough, adam is a liability and bellamy cant play every game even though he is worthy.RedTurk

 

 

11 Feb 2012 12:05:08
Gary Neville and Darren as pundits... Oh please win I need to see them say how we outplayed utd at old trafford... I would give my left nut for it!
Come on boys!!
G BOX

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:59:35
The Reds team in full is: Reina, Enrique, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Spearing, Gerrard, Henderson, Downing, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Doni, Carragher, Bellamy, Carroll, Adam, Shelvey, Kelly

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:42:12
Had a dream last night - first time I have dreamed about a Liverpool match.
Anyway, it was 81 minutes and 29 seconds into the match and Adam plays in Glen Johnson on the right wing about 30 yards out.
He runs outside Evra and keeps going.
Ends up cutting across the Utd box about 1 yard out.
Hurdles a sliding tackle and is then being closed down by Ferdinand
Manages to get to get a shot off before he reaches him and beats De Gea at his near post.
Game ends 1-0 to LFC

Just seen the line-up and it could happen.
I think it's going to be similar to the FA Cup match.
Keep it tight for an hour or so and then bring on Bellamy, Adam & Caroll and go for it.
Adam will then be on the pitch to Supply that pass to Johnson.

I had a dream that Utd where 1 up and then Gerrard went on a mazy run and crossed it into the box for the equalizer (don't know who scored), we then had a headed chances which I thought was in but landed on the roof of the net. My uncle then turned over and when I turned back it was 2-1 to the reds but it was a re-run of the cup game so I never got to see the final score!!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:34:57
Can't believe im hearing Barry, Parker, Hart or even Rooney for the captains armband for England surely it has to be none other than Our Stevie Gerrard .. What you all think be interesting to hear ..

BigD

Chelsea fan here, couldnt agree more, if its not JT it HAS to be Gerrard

SHED END

Gerrard should have been England's captain for a long time but I wouldn't be surprised to see 'arry pick Parker. Also wouldn't be surprised if Walker gets the nod at right back when I think everybody knows it should be Richards at the moment and I expect he'll also ignore Darren Bent which would be folly in my opinion. Although most on here will probably agree about Bent cos apparently he isn't good enough

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:26:45
Any feeds for todays game?

SteLFC {Ed002's Note - myp2p.pe}

Vipbox

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Cheers my fave Ed, haha

SteLFC

Cheers Blair

SteLFC

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:21:52
Sorry to state the obvious but it's gonna be bloody tough today, come on you redmen!!

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:15:18
I can not see any reason why Suarez should not start today. Mr Evra started when we played Man U for the FA cup. I think Luis should start and ignore the Man U fans. Just play his game and hopefully score against them.This will really upset them. COME ON LUIS SHOW THEM WHAT YOU ARE MADE OF

If i was kk id tell luis booing is an english custom that means youre the best,and they love you,,

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:06:34
To watch the game.

1. Install the browser Google Chrome.

2. Look in the top right (your right) corner and you will see a spanner.

3. Click on the spanner and select 'tools'.

4. Click on extensions

5. At the bottom right (as you look at it) you will see 'Get More Extensions >>'. Select this.

6. In the search box type 'Chrome Live Football' and search.

7. Click on Chrome Live Football and then click on install. (it may download to a holding file in the bottom left as you look at it, in which case as soon as it's finished click there, but mostly it will install itself)

8. A small football will then appear in the top right (as you look at it). Click on that, select 'live stream' and reset the clock to GMT and it will list all the live games available all over europe and other places.

You may occasionally need to install other programmes or the link you pick will only work on Explorer (in which case cut and paste the URL into Explorer), but you will always get every EPL match (or any other). Sometimes you will only be able to find it with foreign commentary and sometimes you will get it in English. You'll get about thirty links and you may have to look through a lot of them to get what you want. You will also get most La Liga matches, Greek matches, Italian matches and French matches as well as top matches from South America.

Someone also asked about viruses etc. Google Chrome is actually far more secure than Internet Explorer so the risks are considerably less, but you should have decent virus/spyware programmes and run sweeps regularly as a matter of course.

The quality will also depend on the speed of your internet connection. If you have super-speed and have a modern HD TV, consider connecting your PC to the TV via the PC socket on the side/ back.

Cut and paste the above into a document and save it for future reference.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 11:00:39
I'd love to see 'arry take the England job, both as a Liverpool and England fan. Will be a shame for Spurs but the squad they've assembled is a strong one, i don't see them just dropping out of the sky when Redknapp leaves. Perhaps his man management skills will be missed and they will lose some stars over the next season or so, but even without VDV, Modric and Bale they are still a strong squad (and one that will benfit from the £80 million or so that lot will bring in from sales).

I have spoken to a colleague who has spoken to harry, and at the moment he wont be taking the job! He has a work in progress plan and thinks to walk away now would and could be silly? He would however consider managing at the euro's? One other thing is levy! If harry wanted to go, then levy would only consider if they could get one of three managers, names not known, he (harry) would not consider buying out his contract! A worthwhile shout according to 'h' would be pardew for the long run

 

 

11 Feb 2012 10:49:04
Can we Try not to slag the Players off until after the match today! Be good to give them a "few" hours grace!!! Before they get the inevitable Shellacking from the Nutters!

Quite a gree. This is going to be probably the hardest game - both mentally and physically, we will have this season for a variety of reasons and that pitch isn't going to be the place for the faint-hearted. RED LENIN

 

 

11 Feb 2012 10:35:07
Who thinks Suarez should start today?

Bel - yes
Un - no

Heart says yes head says no.

Square tomato

 

 

11 Feb 2012 10:34:42
Fair enough Ed , I know my place but thanks for letting me know
Davo {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with knowing your place - it is to do with including childish comments.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 10:29:31
Who's todays Ref?
Hope it ain't Fergies friend Webb!!

Its Steve Maclaren fergies former No.2

 

 

11 Feb 2012 10:22:36
To all those who said :

"there is no way Luis Suarez will play at Old Trafford on February 11th"

Just wait and see how wrong you are .

Qwerty {Ed002's Note - I think people were saying there is no way he should play rather than no way he will play.}

The consensus on here was generally that LFC 'would not allow him to play' at Old Trafford 'for obvious reasons' etc .

I reckon he will be inolved , and should be . This is big time football .

I suppose time will tell .

Qwerty {Ed002's Note - If he plays there is obviously an associated risk.}

Yes ... Only the risk MUFC will be taught a lesson on their own park .

Here's to LFC's best intentions .

Qwerty

It shows you how responsible LFC is that they pick Luis Suarez for such a big game .

We will take care of our own business and forget about those who doubt the integrity of our Owners , Staff , Players & Supporters .

Prediction ... A great game !

Qwerty

Ha ha ha ha ha !!!

Qwerty

 

 

11 Feb 2012 09:55:01
I think we have a good squad now, reading some of these rumours are well funny, saying sell Downing & Carroll cause they ain't done anything.. Please get a grip it ain't going to happen.

Anyway as one of the eds said previously the squad is good and we should be looking at adding players that are for the 1st team and not squad players, as most of you know we need a proven goalscoring striker, out and out winger and a good defensive midfielder.

For those positions my choice would be:

J.Martinez of Bilbao - £25m
A.Johnson of City - £18m
E.Cavani of Napoli - £35m

Total £78m

If we get into the CL we would have a real chance of getting the above.

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas Martinez
Suarez Gerrard Downing
Cavani

Doni
Kelly Carra Coates Robinson
Spearing Adam
Johnson Henderson Bellamy
Carroll

That squad is capable of winning trophies and also has good strength in depth something we have lacked in for a few years.

You say some of these rumours are "well" funny then claim that we could buy Martinez and Cavani? Reality check..

maka
YNWA JFT96

Just a tad unrealistic there perhaps? Javi Martinez will be wanted by many top cluds as will Cavani. Neither will end up at Anfield that's for sure..........

 

 

11 Feb 2012 09:43:18
Just knew it Ed , whats up the truth hurts ? Thought this was a banter page ! Bad losers all round on this site then ?
Davo {Ed002's Note - If you are referring to your earlier post - it was cut simply because you put the words "I know this won't be posted" - otherwise it would have been posted.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 09:29:35
From the guy who has got previous team news right... Man Utd, West Brom, Wolves and many more. Check for yourself...

Ive heard that Spearing, Gerrard, Enrique all start... More team news when I get it.

Also, someone is using my name making up fake transfers... I only posted about transfers once, mentioning Hoilett.

Deal didnt come to fruition in the end, both sides were being too stubborn on the price.

Using your name? i don't really think you can hold exclusive rights to anonymous posts...

 

 

11 Feb 2012 10:04:52
Think we,ll line up like this v the mancs
--------------------reina
johnson.......skyrtle..........agger........enrique
..................spearing........adam.................
.henderson.............gerrard...........downing..
........................suarez.............................

kidmillions

Reina
Johnson Skrtle Agger Enrique
Spearing Adam
Suarez Gerrard Bellamy
Carroll

Considering you've got 5 dislikes, it's quite funny that you were only 1 player out, kidmillions! Kudos

DP

 

 

11 Feb 2012 10:00:35
Hi Ed,
Would it be possible to pass this to Macca?
Just wanna wish him Happy Bday.
What a player...What a legend...
Also is he on twitter?

Thanks Ed.
Samsaliva from Malaysia.
{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware he isn't on Twitter.}

Thanks for the post Ed no 1

 

 

11 Feb 2012 09:08:08
My team for todays game:

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Henderson Gerrard Spearing Downing
Suarez Carroll

We need wingers who are willing to track back and help out the defence. Charlie Adam as good as his passing is, is a liability when it comes to defending, he gives away far too many needless freekicks which could easily be the difference in todays game. Wouldn't mind your opinions, eds as well
Cheers
Kenny2 {Ed001's Note - if Bellamy can play, he has to start.}

Thanks for your quick response, so would you play Bellamy in place of Suarez?
Cheers
Kenny2 {Ed001's Note - yes, purely because I don't trust Premier League refs and Dowd will be under a lot of pressure from United.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 09:05:06
Hi ed who do you think will step up from the reserves next season to the first team. {Ed001's Note - I am not sure anyone is actually ready, but Suso might do, mostly due to the fact that he seems to have finished his physical growth.}

Ed001, regarding Suso... do you know the thoughts from the first/reserve team coaches regarding him? He looks a talent, his form has been up and down this season, some games his struggled to get involved off the striker... for me I think he might do better with better players around him and could be worth including in and around the first team, with a possible loan next season. The concern is he'll move without getting an opportunity...

Richards {Ed001's Note - the main issue has been his size and the fact that he was still growing up and the issues that can come with growth spurts etc, which can end up shortening a player's career if not managed carefully. I do think he will be fine, once he gets his chance, it is just that there are a few players ahead of him at the moment, in particular a certain Mr Gerrard. I expect him to be eased into the team or given time out on loan next season, depending on our situation and his.}

 

 

11 Feb 2012 08:51:39
morning eds just like too say what a site,best ever,keep it real,come on the boys lets have em today cant wait for kick off,hope we see are boys rip em apart,super stevey g will get on the score sheet today,and lets see suarez run roit all over them,JAY ESSEX RED FOR LIFE RED TILL DEAD,in king kenny we trust,walk on walk on walk on

 

 

11 Feb 2012 08:44:06
Last time we played united, I read that some of our supporters felt nervous before the game. Strangely enough, that day I didn't and we won. Well my fellow REDS, today I'm feeling calm again. No nerves! Same result as last. 2-1 to us. Evra hattrick. 1 for them and 2 own goals. Would be priceless!
Zoula

 

 

11 Feb 2012 08:34:12
Henry has told a boston jurno that a top 4 finish is Kenny's target he will evaluate the Manager at the end of the season. He also said that to win a trophy would be a great day for Lfc its fans the players and the staff. He speaks about value for money in the jan transfer window and said that they decided early on that they will only sign players to improve the team and if they are not around they will wait and get the best players the staff can find in the summer.
He said he is happy with the progress the club is making and can't wait for the united game.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 08:25:27
Vs Manchester United..

Pepe

Kelly - Skrts - Agger - Enrique

Johno - Stevie - Adam - Bellars

Lui - Andy

Gotta say that I agree with this formation, was exactly the team I was thinking apart from adam, his lack of pace worries me I'd use spearing instead of Adam

Ashy

 

 

11 Feb 2012 08:15:47
Slept in me Liverpool kit last night for luck,
even managed to score with the missus,
Love it when she says
come on you reds!
Got a good vibe about today's game.

Doesn't say much for your Performance fellow Red. If She's thinking about the Football!!!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 02:30:09
Poor sad spurs fans are about to return to their mid table mediocrity, which is your level as harry will leave and modric and van der vaart will follow shortly. Its going to be grim at s***e hart lane

Andy LFC

Well, well, the vultures are circling. Sign of how far Liverpool have sunk when you're reduced to posting unfunny posts on the THFC site gloating about the fact that our manager might get the England job. A quick look at the table will show you've not got much to laugh about (no CL again next year lads)

Cringe

Andy is just stating facts unnamed Spud. Arry wants the England job, Modric wants to go to Chelski and VDV will go to anyone, who will let him play 50-55 mins every match, maybe City?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

If you ask nicely we might give you a tour of anfield and let you feast you eyes on our trophy cabinet SON.

Davo
Ps . I know this post wont be posted even though this is a banter site , but its the truth . {Ed002's Note - As a word of warning writing things like "I know this won't be posted" just leads us to delete the posts regardless of what they say. Otherwise I would have posted it.}

Bit rich considering Spurs in recent years have been far superior to us. We have replaced bad American owners for another set of bad American owners. Our current Yonks have spent duck all and have also been unable to fund a new stadium and are trying to cobble together some half backed compromise at Anfield. So the danger of mid table mediocrity I would say is a much greater risk for us.

If anyone can tell me why our owners are better than Hicks and Gillet I would love to know how.

For starters they haven't lumped the club with hundreds of millions of pounds worth of debt. Also, how can you call the upwards of £100 mill spent since they took over nothing?

It worries me that you have a vote sir.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 02:27:10
my team against united..

reina
kelly skrtel agger enrique
johnson gerrard adam bellamy
suarez carroll

doni carragher aurelio spearing henderson downing kuyt.

Johnson will play rb, not kelly. Adam wont play, hendo or spearing for me.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

11 Feb 2012 02:18:22
I'm genuinely gutted that Xherdan Shaqiri has signed for Bayern Munich for only 10million Euro's. Why, oh why did we not snap this kid up? he is exactly what we need.

"Why, oh why?" Puke.

Because people with way more football knowledge than you decided not to snap him up. Simples.

cozinoz

Only ten "million??" love how you can try to make that much money sound like a tenner! I guess your on of the fans who says " come on we just need to spend 6O million that's all. Then we'll win the league!!

How do you know we didn't try?

 

 

11 Feb 2012 01:43:53
I must say Im a little bit worried about the Manc game. Giggs out wide and Scholes in the middle - I can see Fergie bringing on Bryan Robson, Jimmy Greenhoff and Steve Coppell at half time and we could have problems. As long as he doesn't replace De Gea, we should be in with a shout.

cozinoz

Heard Garry Baily and Jim Leighton
have contacted Fergie about the game today.

De Gea isn't that the young Spanish lad they paid £20mill for. Don't really rate him, waste of money.
kidmillions

 

 

11 Feb 2012 01:25:51
Mauricio Isla, Hazard, and Granero would be great signings. Isla is almost guarenteeded, Hazard is a stretch but because of Joe Cole there is a chance, and Granero doesnt want to be a benchwarmer anymore. What do you guys think?

Isla guaranteed? Hazard we have no chance and Granero maybe. There is a chance with Isla but it is by no means guaranteed. Thats what I think mate
KiwiRed

IN: Isla, Martinez, Hazard, Llorente = title challenge on.

 

 

11 Feb 2012 01:23:50
Just out of interest, who on here is female? Pls sign below {Ed001's Note - next you will be asking for their emails!}

I am.

Lol no ed001, not like that. I was just wondering how much female support of lfc visited these pages. As for asking for emails, my Mrs would prob have something to say about that lol {Ed001's Note - was it your missus that answered?}

Haha nice one ed. As if asking that question would establish how many women visit the site..

I am too {Ed002's Note - You realise this is not a dating site?}

Doubt if any sane women would want some of the Kneejerkers off here! They'd get Dumped by em after one bad Performance!!

 

 

11 Feb 2012 00:49:36
If we were to move stadium, would we move things like the Hillsborough monument and the Shankley/Paisley gates or would we rebuild them? I just wish there was a way to improve Anfields capacity to 60k+ as it is my favourite ground I've ever been too (Better than Wembley, you just don't get that feeling of what has been acomplished anywhere else)

 

 

11 Feb 2012 00:12:29
Tomorrows game is ours to lose. Especially with Andy Carroll getting back to form, and Suarez back. Honestly, looking at the both teams, draw would be a disappointment for us. Same cannot be said for United. Come on guys, lets DOMIN8 them at their home.

Tekneek

By that logic....

 

 

11 Feb 2012 00:00:05
Bit nervous about the Manc game. Not because it's the Mancs we are playing, we need to take our chances. The Mancs don't create as much chances as we do, but they are more clinical in front of goal. They have a terrible defence (Evra, Evans) so I can see us creating, a few chances. We need to be more clinical in front of goal, if we don't sort this out. Not only will we not win today but we could miss out, on the CL.

Not being negative but still a little concerned, we didn't buy another striker in Jan (for whatever reason). Hope i'm wrong and we go out and stuff the Mancs, like someone said earlier, we probably need the 3 points just as much as they do. A point today wouldn't really benefit either club. We should go all out for a victory, we should expect nothing less.

Havn't got a clue who will win. But if we take our chances when presented to us. We could come away with all 3 points, fingers crossed.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Don't worry mate, at least Carroll is getting back to form, and shaved his beard. :)

I know we'll get chances mate, it's converting them that's worrying me. I can see the Mancs scoring at least 1 goal, means we need at least 2 to win. This could be probably our best and most needed victory, of the season. Have to take our chances, there could be a few.

My team for today

Reina
Kelly (probably be Johnson).
Agger
Skrtel
Enrique (if fit)
Kuyt
Spearing
Gerrard
Bellemy
Suarez
Carroll

But I wouldn't be surprised if Andy didn't start. And we play 4-5-1 and put Luis up front on his own. With Hendo or Adam being brought in for Andy, to make it 4-5-1.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Think I saw that Man Utd. convert around 21% of their chances, where, as you probably know, we're around 9%. In other words Mssrs Skrtel & Agger, make sure they get less than five shots on goal!

dmedly

I doubt Andy will start but I hope he does. I'd agree with your line-up completely Blair

Red Ollie

I think the combination of Carroll and Suarez could really hurt the Mancs. They have problems taming Luis whenever he plays and the added annoyance of a big centre-forward would challenge Vidic and Plug. I think Blair's team will be spot on except Johnson instead of Kelly.

cozinoz

 

 

 
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