Liverpool Banter Archive October 10 2015

 

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10 Oct 2015 23:22:55
Interstested to hear what other reds and eds think about Sterling so far this year?

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10 Oct 2015 23:44:27
Very very very very very very shocked that the 49mil hasn't stuck him like it has done for other players past and present.

Can only think the martial fee took the edge off him.

Hope he does well, no hard feelings there but as I said just suprised nothing much has been said about his fee.

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10 Oct 2015 23:51:29
Forgot about him until now. Still no interest

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11 Oct 2015 00:27:15
I'd forgotten about him too, but watched the England game and reminded me of how frustrating he can be with his end product. Haven't watched enough of Man City to know how he's getting on

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11 Oct 2015 01:36:26
I don't think the martial fee was a factor but maybe the de bruyne one. He's started to justify it, sterling hasn't yet

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11 Oct 2015 05:19:30
Sterling is too hit and miss for me. He still cannot shoot properly and his crossing is very poor. Obviously he shows the odd flashes of brilliance but i simply do not see him adding much consistency to his game to become a world class player. Not worth what City paid for him tbh. He also does not seem to be on the same wavelength as his City team mates, while De Bruyne settled down without any problems right from the go.

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11 Oct 2015 06:32:33
Couldn't give a monkeys.

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10 Oct 2015 20:17:17
Question for fans and eds really. If we were to sign a goalkeeper which we Should, do you reckon we will move on both mignolet and bogdan of we can? Maybe have ward as 2nd choice and a few cup games?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

10 Oct 2015 20:52:27
Why sell Bogdan? He's a reasonable backup.
Ideally I'd keep Bogdan and sell Mignolet.
I don't know who we'd sign or who would buy Migs though.
Seems unlikely in Jan

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10 Oct 2015 21:32:57
I'm pretty sure "everyone" will get a chance to impress Klopp. Even Migs. And rightly so I suppose, it's a new slate for all of them and we've seen before how different players perform and become good players for new managers.
But when he realises Migs and others are not upto it I'm sure he'll replace them building us into a force ! I cannot wait for summer

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10 Oct 2015 22:46:31
Mignolet can be a good backup but first of all let us give him a chance under Klopp, most of our current first team players where too comfortable under Rodgers because he signed them and promised them game time, with Klopp in charge I'm sure all the players will up their game including fringe players like Enrique,

We have a good squad all they need is motivation and a commanding coach, at times Rodgers was too soft with the players

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11 Oct 2015 06:46:56
Mignolet is not going to agree to being a backup under anyone. He said so when he first signed, and said he didn't want ot be a back up to Reina.

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11 Oct 2015 08:18:30
Migs ain't fit to polish Pepe's boots

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11 Oct 2015 09:16:08
Is Reina a spent force or good enough and motivated enough for us with a new manager? Its evident he still loves the club and before it's said I know he did look to force a move to Spain if I remember rumours rightly.

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10 Oct 2015 19:38:50
Quick question eds, which manager/s (if any) do you think are as good, or better than Klopp in terms of interaction with the media? Got to be said I admired his interviews at Dortmund and already he looks like he's got the press wrapped tight round his little finger unlike any manager in the league (since Mourinho started moaning every presser anyway)

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{Ed002's Note - No idea, many managers deal well with the media, particularly when introduced at a mew club. Obviously Klopp has the advantage of going to a club where the fans will all be making use of rolled up photographs of him.}

10 Oct 2015 20:35:56
Klopps great with the media. But he'll have his work cut out over here with these leaches. He even said in his interview they can't stop taking pictures of him in his own hotel room now.

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11 Oct 2015 00:42:06
How'd you know Ed, I ran out of rolling paper. This stalking thing is getting a bi creepy :)

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{Ed007's Note - Please God let that be a typo!}

10 Oct 2015 17:19:25
Anyone have have any thoughts on Sassulo striker Dominico Berardi? Heard lots of him but never actually seen him play a full 90 mins.
Also how's young Tielemans Anderlecht getting on?
These are genuine questions not rumours or wondering if we will sign them

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10 Oct 2015 18:13:55
I've watched Tielemans a couple of times, particularly against Arsenal in the UCL. What a player, what a talent! Still so young but plays with so much maturity. He's energetic, courageous and a very good passer of the ball. He's skilled as well. If there's a player that plays similarly, it is Ilkay Gundogan.
I've never watched Berardi but he's a 'wonderkid', he plays as a winger/striker. I hear Juventus have a buyback clause.

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10 Oct 2015 18:45:59
Berardi is a fm15 wonderkid alright. Yeah he had a co-ownership with Juventus which all had to be sorted this summer. So sasasulo were allowed sign him but Juventus do have a buy back deal. So effectively a loan.They obviously felt he wasnt ready for their first team. can't see him playing for anyone other than juve in the future.
Tielemens looks to be a great player. Technically great and as mentioned very mature for his age. Klopp has previously spoken very highly of him so he would be someone worth keepin an eye on. As a summer move could well happen.

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{Ed002's Note - Berardi you are correct about - Juventus got more than €10M and an option to buy him back next summer - which means any move elsewhere would need Juventus to be bought off in addition to any transfer fee. As for Tielemans, he has attracted long-term interest from Chelsea with Atletico Madrid, Arsenal, Juventus, Napoli, Barcelona and Marseille all showing an interest in the past 9 months. Chelsea have actively been speaking with his club since January 2014 but would need to send him on loan for, I imagine, at least a year or more. Atletico spoke with Anderlecht this summer and the player liked the idea of a move to Madrid but nothing could be resolved for a move this past summer. The problem with a move to England is that he is certainly not ready to step right in to the first team at many of the more senior clubs. If he accepts that and a loan, then a move is possible.}

10 Oct 2015 19:18:21
Cheers everyone, appreciated

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10 Oct 2015 15:35:37
Ed001 life is not all about football so I just wanna ask how you're friend is doing?

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{Ed001's Note - thanks mate, he is ok, I had to go and get FIFA earlier so I can play it with him. Hopefully it will cheer him up laughing at how awful I am like we used to before I moved out here. He used to come round and we would end up playing all night, as team mates, it was so much fun even though I am rubbish and he has to carry me. He has a lot of thinking to do about his future, so hopefully a good laugh will help him deal with things.}

10 Oct 2015 16:55:52
Good old Fifa.

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{Ed001's Note - I am not a big fan of it myself, it has yet to reach the heights of Sensible Soccer, but it is a laugh when played with someone else.}

10 Oct 2015 17:31:15
Sorry Ed hadn't heard about your friend, whatever it is I sincerely hope he's better soon

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10 Oct 2015 17:52:43
A fellow sensible soccer man! Youve gone up in my estimation! Always liked being the crisps team lol!

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10 Oct 2015 17:36:08
Hope it all works out for him mate. I missed the post you put up regarding him if you did put one up that is.

My own father got lung cancer a few years ago so I know how tough illness can be in someone that you love and care about. One opperation and many months in hospital added to a few (5) years of remission and he is back to himeself cancer free, giving out about the shambles the epl is and how much of a superior league the German league is in comparison.

Anyway that's, I suppose the perspective of someone who has been through the bad times and is back in the good times. Hopefully this shows that things don't always end up worst case scenario. Pass on my regards, and keep his head up he needs people around him that as you said will just act normal, play some Xbox/PlayStation and talk about the good days. Oh and aslo give you stick for being rubbish lol

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{Ed001's Note - he got through bowel cancer, so hopefully he can get through leukemia and skin cancer too. Though I keep telling him he is just attention seeking now getting a 3rd type of cancer.}

10 Oct 2015 18:15:34
Fifa gets worse every year ed. I doubt you will love it anytime soon.

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{Ed001's Note - they just need to stop throwing it out each year and take a gap to work on actually making an improved product.}

10 Oct 2015 18:40:26
i have fifa and pro evo and i just keep going back to fifa even though the gameplay on pro evo thoughis more realistic.and also the players look nothing like they should for instance they have made jordan ibe look like jesus navas

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10 Oct 2015 19:35:00
Wishing your friend all the best Ed. A colleague of mine is fighting leukaemia at the moment.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, all the best for your colleague.}

10 Oct 2015 21:05:54
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger Ed, so warm wishes to your friend, hope he'll feel great sometime soon! Is he a fan of our great club too?

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{Ed001's Note - sadly no, he is a Mancunian and supports the red side of that particular city. Poor bugger is suffering enough having to watch LVG's team.}

10 Oct 2015 22:26:26
all the very best for your mate ed, i have lost three people i loved dearly to cancer this year so hope and pray your mate keeps on fighting

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{Ed001's Note - so sorry to hear that mate, my condolences, and thank you very much for your well wishes.}

10 Oct 2015 22:38:02
I wish your friend all the best ed.

Me mam had cancer last year and it's not easy to deal with but he can get through it with lots of support. My advice is that he gets treatment at the Royal Marsden if possible, as they are a really good hospital.

Best wishes.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much, I don't think he has any option to go there though, I know he will be set to have his bone marrow transplant, if he has it, at Bristol. All the best to your mam, I hope she gets the all clear.}

10 Oct 2015 16:07:01
i think if JK puts his stamp on the squad this season and a very good buy in january then we will have a great chance at getting into the top 4, he's been there and done it with dortmund so if he can get the team playing a bit like them while he was there then anything is possible because no one is running away with the premier league at the moment.

as its been said augero is injured then he will have to get match fit again so it gives a few teams a chance to catch up, it only needs the feel good factor that coming from klopp put into the team and we can go on a run of games and that will put us up there with a chance so let's hope it happens quickly.

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10 Oct 2015 17:36:51
Silva too mate

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10 Oct 2015 18:34:16
Mbrock99,do you think we will go in for anyone in jan?or could fsg want to wait until the summer?i think if Klopp has a target in mind and it's possible in jan he will want them then and not when there's a major tournament being played.

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10 Oct 2015 16:00:24
I think Klopp should be looking to sell Sturridge when they can still get a high fee for him.

Yes he is a great player but he is out of the team more often then he is in it and the money from him could help improve the team overall.

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10 Oct 2015 16:13:44
I'm going to rule out Chelsea and Man City for obvious reasons and man unt and Everton for even more obvious reasons, there were be very few takers in the upper echelons of the league and with his injury past we'd be lucky to break 10mil. For me he's our best striker and we should get him back to full fitness and see how he goes.

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10 Oct 2015 16:33:43
you have to be joking?
Sturridge has been injured recently lots of course but he is one of the best players we have for sure, and possibly the most effective

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10 Oct 2015 16:34:17
call me naive but i was under the impression that this operation he had done in america was supposed to make him less susceptible to the types of niggling injuries he was consistently acquiring

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10 Oct 2015 16:50:06
Since Daniel Sturridge joined LFC in January 2013, we have played 133 competitive games in all competitions and Sturridge has appeared only in 68 of them, which is about 51% of the games. There maybe a few games where he was rested but not too many.

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10 Oct 2015 17:02:59
Any manager would want to keep Sturridge, even IF he only plays half the games.

He's a proven match winner.

It makes sense that Coutinho will go.

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10 Oct 2015 17:25:45
I would rather have studge 51% of the time than 0% of the time.

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10 Oct 2015 17:26:27
Sturridge has had a few injuries yes, but he's still got what he had before. We just need to be careful with him, make sure he's not put into positions where his body may break down and if that means playing him every other game instead of every game, then so be it.

He's a class act is Sturridge, a very humble guy off the field too from what I remember anyway.

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10 Oct 2015 18:26:33
He needs to learn to put his foot down with England and do what is best for himself, not what Hodgson and his crew try to inflict on him. He needs to see his career in the long term and take care of himself accordingly. And Klopp should be backing him up on this. Otherwise England will likely break him again.

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10 Oct 2015 18:32:44
Watching our games without Sturridge is painful. We are useless at taking our chances.
Sturridge is easily the best striker at the club, no question.
Goal scorers are rare. Selling Sturridge would be a very stupid decision unless you are going to swap him for Suarez.

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10 Oct 2015 22:46:28
JK has said he will keep any players he wants to have in the team so its not about money to him, its about Football and studge is our best goal scorer really, i do like Benteke, but studge has been there when not injured. It's exciting to think how he will be played under Klopp.

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11 Oct 2015 04:43:37
Sturridge is still by far our most dangerous striker, his runs, pace and finishing are able to unlock almost any team, not something the others can claim yet.

In addition, while we have a very very good squad, we are desperately short of elite PL talent that makes the competition genuinely scared (who's our Gerard, Torres, Suarez etc. ) and I put only Sturridge and Coutinho (only just!) in that camp at the moment who can make something out of nothing.

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10 Oct 2015 15:41:43
There's a reason why others are afraid of us now since the appointment. It's clear that there's quality in this squad. Just not fully utilised. If our squad are so rubbish, why would other get worried about us? I believe in Klopp! I believe in current players!

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10 Oct 2015 16:10:43
I wouldn't say our squad is bad but in my opinion we don't have a starting eleven good enough yet
I would say we are 4 players short

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10 Oct 2015 16:34:59
Good enough for what Chris? Top four or to win? I agree about winning league but top four I think our team is easily good enough and we don't have champions league or other distractions

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10 Oct 2015 17:33:46
Forget top 4, top 4 is nothing.
I mean good enough to compete for the title, I understand we may not win it but we must be good enough to be competing for it and for me we are 4 players short at least

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10 Oct 2015 17:40:42
Gareth we have Europa League, FA Cup, EPL and League Cup! How is that different to CL and the rest.

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11 Oct 2015 04:56:24
We have a side good enough for top 4 but still light on players who can do the spectacular on a regular basis. Think of Gerrard, Suarez, Torres and how they drove the team (or Aguero, Silva, Hazard etc. elsewhere).

Sturridge and Coutinho might fit into this camp for me, but only just. The likes of Benteke, Milner, Llalana, Firmino, Hendo etc. are all fantastic players and perhaps have the potential, but still to make the next step to being considered PL elite.

Hopefully Klopp has the ability to pull this out a couple of these like he did with Lewandowski/Reus, but first of all we need a system and the self-belief that gives them the chance to show it.

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10 Oct 2015 13:55:30
Ed 01 and Benny. I used the search function, surprised it's not been asked. Any chance of Klopp/Rogers Podcast, anytime soon? If you're not too busy obviously. A midget walks into a bar. . . TING!!

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{Ed001's Note - hopefully do that tomorrow mate.}

10 Oct 2015 16:31:46
please please please mr edd 1 love you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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{Ed001's Note - I would say my missus will be getting jealous, but it is more likely she would be glad to get rid!}

10 Oct 2015 20:42:10
Lol Mr edd saw some posts about you spending time with your friend I hope I didn't come across selfish asking u to do pod cast friends come first hope your friend is in good spirits. I'll enjoy it when u get around to it

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{Ed001's Note - don't be silly mate, it is fine to ask.}

10 Oct 2015 14:59:49
I don't want to jump the gun a bit, but we actually have a really good chance of making top 4 this year if klopp can change things fairly quickly, even though we have been playing awfully, we have got a lot of points we didn't deserve and aren't too far from the top

aguero is injured for a few weeks which may or may not hinder them, chelsea are playing some pretty dire football, arsenal are playing well and united and spurs still aren't particularly convincing - we are definitely in for an interesting season now that's for sure

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10 Oct 2015 16:33:59
Absolutely the league is so open with only arsenal and man city (with fully fit 11) convincing. People keep saying 'our squad isn't strong enough' but for the past 18months every player has been playing below either their own average or like Ibe way below their own potential.
There's a few exceptions like Gomez and Coutiniho but these two are still raw and who knows whether their full talent would have been realised under Rodgers I suspect not.
Most players who have joined under Rodgers have looked worse than at their previous clubs. When it's 1 or 2 you could look at that players mentality, whether they have it in them to make the step up etc. But when it's the majority you have to start looking at the coaching team whether they recognize their strengths, did they fill a hole in the team or just buy a random player who got good reviews.

We only need each player to raise their game a fraction to be a much more effective team. I bet Firminio, Gomez, Ibe, hendo and Coutiniho will all benefit under Klopp and my bet for the player benefitting the most is Chirivella wjho will be a regular at the end of the season.

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10 Oct 2015 17:26:34
I have a feeling (more hope really) that Lucas will be integral under Klopp, and i expect Skrtel to get the boot too so we could see Gomez getting a lot of game time

But yea, as for people that claim we aren't strong enough, who would you take from spurs or united? both keepers are class, Carrick is solid and then Eriksen, Martial and maybe Kane, everyone else is at least on a par with our squad, Chelsea are hugely underperforming

but then if you look at our squad, even Coutinho has been awful this season, thrown in the odd bit of magic but on the whole hasn't turned up, Sturridge looks sharp and Ings has impressed, but the back 4 has looked nervous due to inconsistent tactics imo, give them clear instructions and keep a back 4 and Clyne and Moreno will only improve

The race is on for 3rd by my reckoning, City and Arsenal are playing some fantastic football but beyond them i see nobody who isn't beatable

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10 Oct 2015 17:38:58
Extra bacon I can't agree more. Our squad is full of decent players that can play well above what we've seen.

Time will tell

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10 Oct 2015 14:35:36
Kenny about Klopp - Seems like somebody that's not in love with himself
Totally shameless Rodgers dig there then haha

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10 Oct 2015 16:01:16
Kenny has a bit of class. He was not but gracious to Rodgers while he was in charge. I couldn't see him stooping to such a snide and pointless dig.

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10 Oct 2015 16:09:41
i agree because in most of BR's interviews he always ended up talking about himself and how good he is and how he needed time to make the team start winning , it stood out to me so much

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10 Oct 2015 16:52:02
Kenny Dalglish has said that, and Kenny is a humble man, so for him to say that.

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10 Oct 2015 19:21:12
I thought Kenny was talking bout Mourinho not Rogers

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10 Oct 2015 13:55:30
Ed 01 and Benny. I used the search function, surprised it's not been asked. Any chance of Klopp/Rogers Podcast, anytime soon? If you're not too busy obviously. A midget walks into a bar. . . TING!!

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{Ed001's Note - hopefully get a chance to put one together tomorrow.}

10 Oct 2015 14:32:46
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, The Klopp Factor Lifts Liverpool

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10 Oct 2015 15:11:29
Great read
Head of opposition analysis sacked. Was unaware until now and rightly so

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10 Oct 2015 15:21:14
Time, patience, understanding and encouragement. Something we like to think we have but choose not to always apply as liverpool fans.

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10 Oct 2015 15:22:47
And he loves a Stella.

What a man, WHAT a Mans Man.

Let us all embrace with our pints of Stella.

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10 Oct 2015 19:16:57
Great read ed01 let's hope this is the start of something very special for us reds YNWA

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10 Oct 2015 13:06:20
Jurgen Klopp: 2 days as Liverpool manager, one youth game attended

Brendan Rodgers: >3 years, no youth games attended

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10 Oct 2015 13:13:23
Lol love it

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10 Oct 2015 16:31:02
Especially since it was an u18 game - hardly likely to have any contenders for first team. Hats off.

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10 Oct 2015 12:54:01
so many phrases using klopps name so thought i'd share mine if that's ok eds.

im going to rock out with my klopp out :)

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10 Oct 2015 11:57:16
Does anybody feel a tiny bit sorry for Rodgers as the whole world goes Klopp crazy? Lol
He must be sat at home unable to watch telly, read a newspaper, go online.
His ego must be really taking a battering, no bad thing in my opinion.
He might even decide to re-decorate and replace the Brendan Rodgers portraits with something a bit more classy. Ha

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{Ed001's Note - he is in Spain on holiday mate, first thing he did with his millions was **** off abroad.}

10 Oct 2015 12:51:58
Nope. His compensation will be more than what most of us will earn in our entire lifetime. What I want to know is, did he hand over the Ferrari the club gave him as a present when he joined?

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10 Oct 2015 12:58:14
I hear real socieded might be looking for a coach not the real that br would want but beggers can't be choosers lol

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10 Oct 2015 13:09:23
Feel sorry for Brendan??? LOL
The man is spending the money he made from turning the club into a laughing stock on an expensive resort in Spain, while picking up a bird who was also employed at the club once upon a time. He may have failed miserably as LFC manager but he did win everything else at the club in the form a new girlfriend and lots of cash. I have absolutely no sympathy for a man who was way out of his depth, threw his staff under the bus to cover his deficiencies and simply refused to recognize his shortcomings at the expense of the club's performances. Thank God he is gone and we finally have a manager who is worthy of representing our club.
Klopp YNWA

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10 Oct 2015 13:34:50
Well said Indian
Even king Kenny had a small dig at him. Unlikeable manager

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10 Oct 2015 13:53:03
My post wasn't meant to be taken seriously guys I was hoping for some teeth and fake tan digs lol

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10 Oct 2015 14:18:15
Before I move on and forget BR, I don't blame him for going on holiday. But no, I don't feel sorry for him - it comes with the territory. I'm pleased that the brave decision to appoint Klopp vs the safe decision to appoint Ancelotti has been made (though would have been pleased with Ancellotti as an upgrade on BR). As other posters have pointed out, BR's arrival was met with acclaim by most. We need to give Klopp time, but let's not get too carried away.

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10 Oct 2015 14:50:18
Agree with Andy M.
He's gone now, he can do what he likes. Being sacked is part of the game. Time to move on from the negativity.

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10 Oct 2015 14:53:05
1895mikey I've tried bein sarcastic before. it doesn't allways come across o screen lol. Just makes you look like a complete goose!

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10 Oct 2015 14:27:59
Cmon people, what about a little class.

Whatever Rogers was or wasn`t he took on a tough job, did his best, which ultimately wasn`t good enough, but I am confident that everything he did was with good intentions.

We all have our faults and mistakes, but that is only because we are human after all, (not sure if Klopp is human or not though).

Just let it go and move on !

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{Ed001's Note - what Rodgers did was not his best, he half-arsed everything about his time with the club, which is why he failed. Good intentions is not sloping off to give your secretary a bit on the side when you should be working. Good intentions is not dicking off to the sun lounger while the youth teams are playing and you can be there watching. He gets stick because he deserves it.}

10 Oct 2015 15:09:02
I'd love to read his biography but he could never tell the truth whilst he was a manager and I wouldn't want to line his pockets any more than we already have. Perhaps John Henry will do one so we can get some real insite as to what went on ( though the eds have done a good job of giving us some bits and pieces)

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10 Oct 2015 16:17:13
i don't care what he does , he came to our club and was a chubby little fellow who had bad teeth and now he has slimmed down got his teeth sorted and got himself a new bird , while instead he should have been doing his job and watching the youth , he came to us to milk us and he always self praised himself , he was so out of his depth that's why he could not get the team playing like we did when we came 2nd

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10 Oct 2015 20:10:54
To be fair if you were Rodgers would you stay in England with all the press around?

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10 Oct 2015 11:55:43
Hello to all EDS and fellow REDS

So, FSG not so evil after all. Stadium extension on its way, money spent on recruitment and now Klopp! I'm sure my fellow REDS will find something to whinge about. soon.
NEVER FORGET:
'Good things come to those who wait'
and God knows we have waited. and waited.
Looking forward to a manager who knows what to do with his team.
And nice to see other clubs' fans envious or our manager!
YNWA

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10 Oct 2015 13:11:18
Who said FSG were evil? The fans were p****d off because of their blind faith in Brendan, nobody questioned their ambition. Bringing in Klopp is a big statement of intent and hopefully many more will follow. The days of entertaining mediocrity at the the club are over and we should be thankful for that.

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10 Oct 2015 12:59:50
All change again eh ?
Not sure if the staff that have just lost their jobs will feel the love.
Totally agree with ed002, shocking way to treat people, especially those that were only there for two or three months.

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10 Oct 2015 16:19:10
indian there was a few fans who had a go at the owners and they wanted them gone , with getting klopp i hope its a change from getting potential

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10 Oct 2015 17:55:37
There is no room for sentiment in football these days. Brendan was given a chance, regardless of points totals we have been awful this season. A new manager generally always brings a new coaching staff. Sean O'Driscoll and the other lads had to knew Brendan was walking on a tightrope when they arrived and they have all been in the game long enough to understand football so they wouldn't hold any resentment towards the club. They may feel hard done by but that's football.

Ed002 must know one personally hence his views 😜 because it's all football and happens all the time and at no other club would it seem harsh.

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{Ed002's Note - My expectation would have been to keep GMcA until the end of the season whilst Klipperty and his folks get used to being at a club where he needs to get his point across in English, which has different nuances in the language to German. This would be typically how clubs work.

I know of a number of folks at other clubs that have had a continuity driven coaching role with the first team - Franck Passi is a good example, Paul Clement stayed in a coaching role as assistant between Hiddink and Ancelotti at Chelsea, Giggs at Manchester United, Brian Kidd at Manchester City. So the successful sides seem to take that approach. Hermann Gerland at Bayern Munich did exctly that as well. Even B teams do it at other clubs - Joan Barbara at Barcelona is a good example.}

Seems to me you lack of knowledge or understanding of the broader game and your desire to justify a particularly bad move by Liverpool is doing no more than making you type stupid comments.}

10 Oct 2015 11:55:07
Hi Eds, we know the infamous transfer committee isn't getting disbanded but is there any talk of possibly reshuffling it? Obviously Klopp is now on it instead of Rodgers but I mean the others on the committee. My main issue with this committee is the people on it have arguably mediocre, at best, football knowledge.

You could drag a few lads from the local pub into the room and they'd probably make better judgement calls than half these guys.

Thanks for your ongoing help guys

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{Ed001's Note - it is not like that at all, they were guided by the manager in charge as to what targets to look at.}

10 Oct 2015 12:20:02
"we brought in some new players that Brendan recommended that we thought would take us forward. We are where we are." - Werner

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10 Oct 2015 12:25:25
Edd001 our team was made to look a lot worse than it is by Rodgers . There is a lot of quailty in the squad. there are one or two areas we need addressed next summer but I believe under klopp we will prove this season we can be an excellent side. Main worry is the backline, skrtl has to be dropped eventually.

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{Ed001's Note - I agree, I think we just failed to address the weak spots and kept adding more attacking midfielders, but overall we have a good squad.}

10 Oct 2015 12:31:41
This is the great fallacy of Rodgers term. Every team around the world has some form of transfer committee. Its astounding rodgers was allowed make it an excuse. It was set up due to his failings in the transfer market and i for one am thankful that it was set up, god knows what the squad would look like now. well probably half the swansea squad and the other half southampton.
Look at what Klopp said,or didn't as is more the point,he doesn't care because he has final say. He didn't give it more than 10 seconds thought. Because its a normal structure within a club. Rodgers had final say too. His failings are his own.

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10 Oct 2015 13:20:22
I think people get too involved with this transfer commitee.

Every way transfers are done it is technically by a group but just not called a committee.

How is the manager meant to watch players nowadays there so spread globally that if were at white hart lane next Saturday how is klopp going to get out to say Sevilla to watch konoplyanka. (were not watching him that was just an example)

So now the scout who watched him has to give his reports but if klopp is now with the team in a meeting after the victory over Tottenham how is he meant to speak with the scout who watched kono. He can't offer his full availability so all the data and players are watched, and then come the end of the season they will have got rid of players off the list they initially started with and end up with a list of say kono, bolasie and ayew for the lw position klopp has said he would like to strengthen. Now klopp makes a decision on who he would like, availability is checked, costing's and that and then they get one of them in.

Klopp will have a say at the start of the season on who he would like as will a few others and there is no way klopp can no every player on the planet.

What if he said I only want Andre ayew and he does his acl at the end of the season, no contingency plan or should we sign a player we have done no checks on and end up with a dud.

Yes its not all working perfectly at the moment but its been done half assed to be honest. Why the hell was firmino authorised when we spent 25 on lallana the summer before, why wasn't Brendan told to work with him and use the money on a player we actually need.

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10 Oct 2015 11:48:11
Just read ed2 comments regarding Dortmund players.

Centre Half has to be a priority - don't care how many are on the books, they're not good enough.

I would welcome Subotic with open arms. not getting ahead of myself though. Would be a decent step up imo.

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10 Oct 2015 13:18:20
Subotic would be great for us imo. He is out of favour at Dortmund with Hummels, Sokratis and even Ginter being preferred by Tuschel. Joining LFC could be a fresh start for him after the last couple of seasons marred by injuries and disappointing performances. On his day, Subotic is one of the best CBs in the world and Klopp could be the man to make him believe in his abilities again. Sakho, Subotic, Gomez and Ilori should be our CBs next season. All good on the ball and a mixture of pace and power to show for it. Skrtel is past his best and Lovren needs a fresh start somewhere else so hopefully both are moved on in the summer.
Sven bender is another i would take from Dortmund if they are willing to let him go. Quality CDM when fit of course.
I would also look to sign Ron Robert Zieler who is affordable and playing for a club below LFC's level at the moment and who would surely jump at the chance to be 1st choice under Klopp. Subotic, Zieler and Bender in for Migs, Skrtel, Lovren and Allen is the way to go imo.

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10 Oct 2015 13:23:20
So basically Brendan got bollocked for not giving iloro a chance or not going with Gomez at the back yet were now ok with klopp going for another player to block the path of the youth.

I am in dream land we got klopp but don't become hypocrites. It may not of been you intial poster who wanted the youth played but a lot did under Brendan and now there changing there tune. Just annoying.

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10 Oct 2015 13:52:58
People wanted youth played because they couldn't be any worse than skrtel and lovren. there's nothing wrong with the balance of senior players and youths. Its not hypocritical. His post states gomez and illori and sakho and subotic should be the centre backs next season. Meaning we clear out skrtel,lovren and toure. Which essentially would give the youth the chance whilst also having experienced centre backs to learn from. Its about balance.

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10 Oct 2015 13:55:52
How exactly is Subotic going to get in Ilori's way? I clearly mentioned Skrtel and Lovren out, with Toure's contract expiring in the summer. That is 3 senior CBs out so obviously the club will sign at least one experienced CB and give Ilori a chance as well. Sakho, Subotic, Ilori and Gomez as our CBs next season. If we want to compete on all fronts, we need 4 competent CBs, hence why the club should go for Subotic if the opportunity arises.

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10 Oct 2015 14:14:28
So of we go with two at the back it will be subotic and sakho

Where does gomez and ilori play?

Why not go with gomez, ilori, sakho and toure?

When we all complained why was love bought were not ok with subotic getting bought because it's klopp.

And Indian didn't I address the initial poster who is Mr t'? So why are you getting on the defensive! Haha

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10 Oct 2015 14:54:14
I don't think he'll sign anyone in January, he's more likely to sell IMO.
This season is a freebie for him, he can't really fail.
3 months is not long enough to fully assess all the players.
If he signs someone in Jan, he will start to be judged.
I expect him to see how this squad goes, sell some fringe players, assess the loan players and then look to strengthen in July.

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10 Oct 2015 14:59:15
Relax guys. The games all about opinions. Simply put, by the time we get to the summer, if Klopp decides to buy another centre half it will be because he deems the current centre half's not good enough! You could argue that he should play the youth but that's a big risk!

My opinion was, and still is, buy 1st team quality, promote youth to the squad. If this means selling 3 or 4 current centre half's in 1 or 2 windows, so be it!

Peace

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10 Oct 2015 15:57:49
Play youth but that's a big risk. It wasn't when Brendan was in charge! I love klopp and I am delighted we have him but can't we stop being hypocrites.

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10 Oct 2015 16:44:04
I think we need 2 senior experienced CB's at least. Gomez is young, while Illori is untested in the PL, I don't see how we can expect either to be thrown in the deep end just yet.

Both have great talent and should get game time but that's not the same as not having an experienced first team, it's about giving them a chance in cup games and against weaker teams, building their confidence and planning their gradual integration.

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10 Oct 2015 20:14:21
No need for toure to stay another year. 4 cbs is the usual right, so sakho is one, Gomez one, maybe ilori but people seem to forget he is yet to play a premier league game. Skrtel is no longer good enough, and lovren never was in a red shirt in afraid, so 1 centre back and maybe 2 of ilori isn't preferred

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10 Oct 2015 11:46:13
Hi Ed

Do you Know if Jurgen chosen his backroom staff yet

Evered

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{Ed001's Note - he brought them with him mate.}

10 Oct 2015 13:57:37
Thanks Ed that's Great news

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10 Oct 2015 11:18:40
Great to see Klopp and Pep alongside Alex Inglethorpe at the u18 match v Stoke

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10 Oct 2015 11:38:55
Seriously? Awesome. Winning more and more respect than

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10 Oct 2015 11:50:09
Great stuff Simon, a manager who's skipping his teeth whitening appointment to watch our youngsters.

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10 Oct 2015 11:59:11
1-0 to the reds at half time. Ovie Ejaria 35mins.

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10 Oct 2015 13:02:55
Match finished 1-0 to the reds.

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10 Oct 2015 11:00:17
Hi Ed1and2. First time poster from South Africa. Been reading for years but felt compelled to add to the debate of being "rogerred" or being "klopped". Strangely enough Klopped in our second language in SA, means to " win ". Appropriate I think-lol. Anyway just thought I'd add that "kop" also originates from the actual war on South African soil. "Kop" means "head". Anyways some useless info from SA-lol. Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks for that.}

10 Oct 2015 12:09:40
Not useless, bro! I'll chuffed to bits if LFC keeps on "klopping".

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10 Oct 2015 16:48:14
From wpedia,

Spion Kop (or Kop for short) is a colloquial name or term for a number of terraces and stands at sports stadiums attended by hardcore fans, particularly in the United Kingdom.

Their steep nature resembles a hill near Ladysmith, South Africa, that was the scene of the Battle of Spion Kop in January 1900 during the Second Boer War.

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10 Oct 2015 10:55:45
Edd002 Klopp said in the press conference that he would not spend money the club didn't have though that may be hearsay as the club has already been as you stated spending future income .
My hope is that klopp gets us champions league football this season and we sell to buy. The squad is far too big and I believe whether it's January or next summer we only two to three players(first team).

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{Ed002's Note - Klopp has obviously had it explained to him that money is an issue and as he says, he would not be spending "money the club doesn't have". In two statements Mr Warner has made it clear that Klopp will be working with the players the club has and the players will be expected to step up ("respond" was his word) to the "quality" of Klipperty.}

10 Oct 2015 11:13:44
I dare say that even if we are in a 'sell to buy' situation, we have some expensive players on the periphery. Selling the players currently on loan and maybe a few currently in the squad should give Klopp a little spending money!!

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10 Oct 2015 11:43:24
All we need is a bit of money to go with a worldie manager and we would be on fire. Feel sorry for the guy if we have no money for him to spend I really do. Selling our best players to buy is not the way to win, even with Klopp at the helm.

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10 Oct 2015 12:11:07
Fine by me. All we need is some balance in the squad because right now, it is very bloated and unbalanced in certain areas

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10 Oct 2015 11:50:49
Thanks Edd002 for the reply.

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{Ed002's Note - It won't be a case of "no money", it will be a case of becoming financially responsible.}

10 Oct 2015 12:45:12
There's no need to sell our best players OG, our squad is pretty bloated in a few different positions.
For arguments sake, Sell Skrtel, Allen, Markovic and Balotelli and he's got £20/£25 million to throw around at little effect to the playing squad!

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10 Oct 2015 13:27:24
Agree Welsh boy and edd002

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10 Oct 2015 14:38:16
@welshboy. Its quite weird that JK is prepared to give all players a new start and you want them sold before they can show what they can do under the new manager. I heard him say we have a quality team including the goal keeper, ok probably balotelli is a different case but other players need to be given a chance. Allen is still young and might surprise many under the new management so is markovic

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10 Oct 2015 14:38:16
@welshboy. Its quite weird that JK is prepared to give all players a new start and you want them sold before they can show what they can do under the new manager. I heard him say we have a quality team including the goal keeper, ok probably balotelli is a different case but other players need to be given a chance. Allen is still young and might surprise many under the new management so is markovic

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10 Oct 2015 10:16:11
Seriously, we need to stop calling for Carra or Gerrard to come back just for the mere sake of having them here. Gerrard hasn't even done his coaching badges, so what if he has absolutely zero to offer the team in terms of proper coaching? And do we expect him to suddenly just hang up his boots?

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10 Oct 2015 10:40:26
I am not really worried about gerrard coming back. We need 2 stop living in the past and look forward. Whose to say either of them would offer anything. Klopp has his own team and I'm not overly convinced gerrard back at the club is a good thing.

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10 Oct 2015 10:49:29
To be honest I don't want Gerrard near the team under Klopps reign. I don't think it would be positive. i'd rather fowler or carragher if klopp wants someone like that in the future

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10 Oct 2015 12:13:41
Klopp has asked us to leave our history wgphere it is and stop carrying it around like a heavy backpack. Ex players should remain where they are and leave the future of our club to those currently entrusted with it. Ex players should stay where they around those clam outing for them should rethink their strategy

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10 Oct 2015 12:21:55
How often do top quality players successfully make the transition to top quality coach? Very very few and very far between. If anything, there are considerably far more failures, by a mile, than there are successes. So I wish we'd stop this sentimentalism and stop this push for "legends" on the field to be brought into LFC management. A legend on the field will always be a legend on the field. And that's it. It's clear that coaching requires a completely different set of skills (and mental ability) from playing on the field. I would prefer that LFC "legends" prove their coaching skills and abilities elsewhere, at lower levels, before being given the greater responsibility of being given similar duties at LFC.

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10 Oct 2015 13:17:22
Great players who became successful managers Kenny, Guardiola, Ancelotti, Rijkaard, Guillit, Cryuff, Beckenbauer, Vialli, Koeman, De Boer, Clough, Laudrup off the top of my head.

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10 Oct 2015 13:49:03
Sure Ron. And here's a few great players (I'll just give you English players to keep this reply small) who never made it as successful managers - Souness, John Barnes, Gascoigne, Paul Merson, Adams, Ince, Shearer, Robson, Platt, Keane etc., etc.

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10 Oct 2015 09:49:26
Klopp as totally changed how we all feel about this season, a great appointment, we can look forward to games now.

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10 Oct 2015 09:35:17
Just bought "the normal one" T-shirt, Liverpool are milking this and I've falling for it but I don't care I'm happy!

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10 Oct 2015 12:14:12
Is it online now because if it is, I'm going to get one.

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10 Oct 2015 13:09:29
Did the same last night, also went for the Klopp hat.

Let's all get and stay behind him.

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10 Oct 2015 13:41:56
Ye online shop but going like hot cakes!

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10 Oct 2015 09:34:45
Klopp on Bayern Munich speculation:

"No, actually I don't know anything about that and this is not relevant to me"

"Bayern is a fantastic club but I don't go on holidays and wait for someone to call me. I have done many things that I found interesting and exciting and I have used the time to meet loads of great people and I would have met many more.

"I never had a certain career plan and I can assure that I never talked to Bayern Munich. I also hope that Guardiola will stay there for another 10 years"

"I didn't want to train many clubs. Of course I had concrete offers but Liverpool is the only club I have actually spoken to."

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{Ed002's Note - (a) He knew that they could not offer him the job at this time. (b) He was not will to wait until after Christmas. (c) His agent and his lawyer did, and he knows that. He also knows that Guardiola will not stay another 10 years. (d) He had four concrete offers that he turned down before Liverpool.}

10 Oct 2015 09:57:36
That's it Ed pee on our bonfire 😘

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation. There is nothing new here.}

10 Oct 2015 10:21:02
Who cares, he's our manager now his is all that matters.

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10 Oct 2015 10:32:45
if he is succesful here, bayern munich after that is no surprise.

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10 Oct 2015 12:14:49
Exactly. Who cares.

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10 Oct 2015 09:15:49
Hi All certainly seems Klopp will be more involved in every respect as football seems to be his life. I really hope this provides a platform and opportunity for fringe players and reserves/under 21s. I don't expect them all to make it but I hope now we can feel they were given a fair chance to prove themselves rather than being "Klopped". Being "Klopped" actually sounds worse than being "Brendaned" thinking about it so let's hope this is the only time the word is used on this site!

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{Ed002's Note - Does being "Jurgened" sound better or worse than being "Rodgered"?}

10 Oct 2015 09:55:53
Fact of the day:

The Jurgen is a pubic cut in contrast to the Brazilian.

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10 Oct 2015 09:58:21
I'm just glad we didn't go for Dick Advocaat!

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10 Oct 2015 09:59:26
Eds- where I come from Fostered definitely sounds the worst in my opinion, unless that's your preference of course lol

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10 Oct 2015 10:53:34
First time poster from South Africa Ed. In our second language called "Afrikaans" klopped means -win or to beat. Sounds appropriate to me. By the way the origin of the "kop" is actually from South Africa.

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10 Oct 2015 12:16:26
'Hope we start klopping immediately, then my bro from South Africa . From Jo'burg?

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10 Oct 2015 09:14:15
I, like most lfc supporters am very happy for Liverpool FC as far as Jurgens appointment is concerned. I have 2 concerns.
1. Jurgen will need time to learn the EPL. This is a complicated task and I am certain it will provide him with many a headache.
2. The pressure of being the LFC boss is already on him.

The problem is expectations. Same as any LFC recent striker, they are having to live up to the legends like Robbie and Rushy. The sheer weight of that shirt, put there by the fans and history is too much for some and I am happy Jurgen sees that the previous boss legends are in fact history and have no say in current results. I hope Jurgen maintains that, ignores historical precedents and completely does his own thing.
I have no expectations for this season except to see a huge improvements in the style and tactics we play. Win or loose, it will not bother me as long as there is passion and a will to win.

Best of luck to Jurgen and the players

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10 Oct 2015 12:20:32
Clearly the pressure doesn't get to him because as he says, football is the same everywhere you play it. He's not stupid. He knows he has to win. As for adapting, again the man is no mug and he knows he's in for a shock and in IMO, he's ready for it. BVB play full throttle footie, just like Bielsa and just like BR did off Bielsa's advice when we almost won the league and said high pace system he used to play at BVB is the tradition of the PL and that's why he's here. He'll be fine.

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10 Oct 2015 08:54:19
Apologies if this has been done.

Now Klopp is here - any ideas yet on what will happen with the likes of Illori and others that were left on the fringe by BR?

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{Ed002's Note - A number of the players out on loan are on loans with options to buy and (a) depending how the players perform and (b) the potential value of the players next summer will determine if the clubs they are loaned to buy them. Liverpool will need income before the summer transfer window opens and these players can move before then and then either stay on or even be sold as a profit. Alberto seems to be completely out of the picture. Markovich is a different matter. As has been explained, Liverpool took him far to soon and he wasn't ready - they paid way over the odds and he wasted a year of his career. He has gone out on loan to try and get the career back on track so he is one who may well return next summer. As for the others, Ojo and Canos are probably the pick of the outfield players and they will come back next summer, probably in to the U21s and will, I expect, be given consideration. The goalkeepers I don't know enough about. The remaining outfield players, excepting Yesil, may not make it at Liverpool. Yesil will be more interesting - he arrived at Liverpool with a very, very good reputation as a youngster. Unfortunately he struggled with injury and has otherwise never really got a look in. I think he will be looked at very carefully as next summer is really a crunch time for him - a decision will need to be made by all concerned.}

10 Oct 2015 10:06:08
TBH Ed002, Yesil's chance may have passed him by while he was injured. He has 4 first team strikers to overthrow to become a regular and i really do not see that happening. Classic example of why Origi was an absolute waste of money imo. Has the potential to be a decent player but he simply has blocked Sinclair and Yesil's route into the first team.

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10 Oct 2015 12:22:59
BR said he would be world class but then again, everything bad that happened under his tenure was the TC and the players' fault.

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10 Oct 2015 08:22:03
Very exciting times ahead. Can't remember the last time this was this amount of buzz around our club. The way Klopp conducts himself you can't help but like the bloke. I do think he will get the best out of the squad and i also believe, because of his brutal honesty, that he will also have the luxury of patience when things may not be going our way.

On a side note, I'd like to wish good luck to the Welsh boys today. Both football and rugby. A win in each should guarantee us top place in each group bar a disaster against Andorra next week.

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{Ed001's Note - it is a lot more than just around the club, Bein Sports spent most of yesterday talking about Liverpool and Klopp's arrival. There were whole programmes dedicated to it. FSG must be rubbing their hands in glee!}

10 Oct 2015 08:51:42
No way Ed seriously?I never would have thought it was that major news.

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{Ed001's Note - it is huge mate, Klopp is huge news around the world and Liverpool are still a big name too, though there has been little to talk about with them in recent years. The biggest and oldest football team fan club in Dubai is the Dubai Reds, the Liverpool fan club.}

10 Oct 2015 09:07:05
I'd like to echo those comments. There has been a real negativity around the whole club for some time now. In addition to the obvious failures, I felt this was another reason why a change was required. But I've been taken aback by the sheer size and force of the response to this appointment. I almost feel for Spurs having to play us on the back of it. almost!
It may not be a great standard, but it's a competitive league so I think he will be given time to turn things around. We do have a decent squad of players who can compete for a top 4 place.
I expect City to be way ahead of the rest and Chelsea have too many good players and a great manager for them not to come good(love to know what the issues are down there though!). But the rest are a much of a muchness so any advantage we can gain from this change may prove to be the difference.
On that note, foreign managers have previously been caught out by the so called weaker teams, so I hope that Klopp quickly acknowledges there are no easy games in this league.
Finally, KK quote about having a manager who is not in love with himself. anyone any idea who he is comparing JK with?

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10 Oct 2015 09:16:40
Yes, it is big news. When Rodgers resigned, it was Monday in South East Asia. The sheer number of Liverpool jerseys around Singapore, KL, Jakarta and Bangkok was strange to behold.

Jurgen Klopp signs on Thursday, and by Friday, night clubs with LFC affiliations are organizing happy hour parties!

So yes, Klopp is big news for a well supported club like LFC.

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10 Oct 2015 09:33:17
That's fantastic news.Hopefully players who would not consider coming may look at us differently since yesterday.
Thanks Ed.

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{Ed002's Note - You need to understand the dire financial situation that exists.}

10 Oct 2015 09:37:14
Try telling that to eds 002 eds 001.

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10 Oct 2015 09:50:56
But Liverpool are no bigger than Huddersfield?

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10 Oct 2015 11:54:04
Yes Ed I really do understand the money situation.All I was really trying to say is JK will be more appealing to work with than BR to some players who may have never looked at Liverpool before.

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{Ed002's Note - It may perhaps make a marginal difference but, aside from the higher end players and a few flakes who will come out and say "he sold the club to me" most players are more likely to be sold on the club rather than any individual associated with it.}

10 Oct 2015 13:11:05
Very true it should always be about wanting to play for the club not the manager.

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10 Oct 2015 13:11:32
Rodgers didn't RESIGN, he had to be sacked.

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10 Oct 2015 07:36:49
As per The Beatles (try to do it my way . )

Try to do it Klopps way
You have to keep on running til you can't go on

Try to do it Shanks way
You have to fight until the final whistles gone

We can win it out
Reds can win it out

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10 Oct 2015 07:36:36
Klopp mentioned success as being relative to fans expectations. I wonder what fans expectations are for a 3 year tenure? Personally i think to get champions league next year you have to challenge for the title. This idea of playing for 4th is a failure to start, you have to aim to win every game and maybe you fail a few times but you end up fighting for top spot unless a team runs away with it. There isn't a team that's looked like running away with it this season so far especially as Aguero seems unable to stay fit for any period of time. So success is challenging this season and putting out a team that can compete with other CL teams next season. That quality of team will win a trophy (of some form) in 3 years. that's my interpretation at least.

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{Ed001's Note - it will probably require a top 3 soon enough to qualify anyway.}

10 Oct 2015 08:49:37
Hi ed001 just wondering is there any sound information on this topic of top 3 getting champions league I.e timelines etc? Also is this as a result of people in football thinking the BPL has dropped in standards?

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{Ed001's Note - sound information? It is the UEFA rules for the competition, England's ranking has dropped and could lead to this being the last season of 4 qualifiers for the Champions League, unless the current bunch do a bit better than the usual.}

10 Oct 2015 09:11:33
Yeah I worded that poorly ed001, hate typing on a phone but you answered exactly what I was thinking. I just wasn't up to date on when any of this could potentially happen. So thanks for the update as usual and for all the information you guys provide us with

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{Ed002's Note - The owners crave immediate success - they have invested year-on-year, plunged the club in to significant debt and now employed Klopp to make it happen because Rodgers couldn't. I read the scripts from Werner's two statements and he has made it clear that the owners are pissed that they have had no on field success and he expects the players they club has to respond better to Klipperty. They will be looking for an immediate improvement.}

10 Oct 2015 10:14:13
Haha, slightly off topic ed002. I was only asking about the general situation with th BPL only getting three spots in the champs league. But I definitely agree and can see what you mean. They really have poured a lot of money into tho club, whether wisely or not I guess we can debate (unwisely) but the mind has to wonder why they let Rodgers spend so much? I mean at what point did the doubt set in? Obviously they let him spend again this summer. It's either odd or just plain stupid. Anyway let's get back to a happy topic like having a fantastic new manager. Just hope the BPL and English media and fans let him be and he can hack the unnecessary pressure of managing Liverpool, where everyone says "yes let's give him a few seasons to get his stuff together" and then after a few bad results become reminiscent of the 80s and say we should be winning every year and then he gets sacked.

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{Ed002's Note - It seems unlikely to be an issue for 2016/17. Dropping to three places for next season will require the four English CL sides to do collectively significantly worse than the two Italian sides (worse plus four whole points). The four point differential gets wiped out at the end of next season so then it will become more significant.}

10 Oct 2015 10:55:50
Oh ok I see thanks for the informative reply ed002, appreciate it. That's why I love the site, besides having a moan and stating the obvious as posters we can rely on you guys to explain the finer things in football.

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10 Oct 2015 07:29:54
Any early suggestions for a song for Klopp?

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10 Oct 2015 07:41:27
1 2 3 o'clock 4 o'clock klopp
5 6 7 o'clock 8 o'clock klopp
9 10 11 o'clock 12, o'clock klopp
We're going to klopp around the kop tonight! YNWA

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10 Oct 2015 07:53:34
His name is klopp
Joins the kop
Puts Liverpool on top
Success none stop
Rival teams flop
IT'S JÜRGEN KLOPP! ⚽️🏆⚽️🏆

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10 Oct 2015 08:05:39
To the tune of the Beatles (Try to see it my way)

Try to do it Klopps way
Have to keep on running til you can't go on

Try to do it Shanks way
Have to keep on fighting til the whistles gone

We can win it out
The Reds can win it out

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10 Oct 2015 09:29:22
We will we will Klopp you, we will we will Klopp you,
we will we will Klopp you singing we will we will Klopp you

to Queen's we will rock you

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10 Oct 2015 09:35:01
Surely it's as simple as:

"Feel in' Klopp, Klopp, Klopp!"

Simples!

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10 Oct 2015 15:03:48
i prefer

ole, ole
ole, ole
Jurgen Klopp, Klopp, Klopp

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10 Oct 2015 03:20:53
Lot of fans are worried, how team wil shape up and perform under klopp.

I think klopp has found enough players and quality in the team to start with. and he had promised top 4 is still possuble regardless of league position.

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10 Oct 2015 06:30:04
Top4 should be a cakewalk right now with the shocking performances of the top clubs in the premier league. Not one team has shown an ounce of consistency and Chelsea seem to be digging a bigger hole for them selves with every passing game.
I am confident Klopp will give the squad sufficient motivation and belief to pull off a top4 finish even though some obvious positions like CB, GK and CDM need immediate attention. Though i would not rule out a new GK in Jan.

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10 Oct 2015 11:59:03
The appointment of Klopp might be the kick up the back side jose needs at Chelsea. I got a feeling Chelsea might just take the top spot.

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10 Oct 2015 00:35:15
Hi ed1

Just to build on the 'who you think will strive' post. I know Klopp likes to play with a defensive mid like Lucas. But they need to run around a lot. Just wondering if you think he still has the legs to play this role. Because he is fantastic imo but just a bit cautious about his role in there with his injuries and age

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{Ed001's Note - I think his brain allows him to not need to run around as much, but I am sure he is fully capable of doing so if needed.}

10 Oct 2015 09:34:28
I am not so sure he only plays with a defensive midfielder who "runs around a lot". Sebastian Kehl didn't run that much and he was their captain under Klopp for a long while until Bender came through and Kehl was where Kolo is now, aged and near retirement.

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10 Oct 2015 00:41:16
Klopp previously tried to sign benteke at BVB. So I would assume he will be happy to have him. My question is this, because he likes to play a 4231 with benteke presumably up front, do you think Sturridge would have an issue playing on the right side of that attacking midfield 3? Even though traditionally klopp keeps those midfield 3 narrow so they can hit on the counter leaving the wing backs pushed higher up. So he's not exactly a winger but not exactly striker either. Also with his injuries do you think Sturridge can adapt to the intense pressure style?

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10 Oct 2015 01:11:56
I'm sure Klopp knows more than just the one formation.

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10 Oct 2015 02:17:17
I remember in the season we came second with the narrow diamond formation coutinho player primarily right of the the three with sterling at 10. Maybe him or firmino could sit deeper allowing them to get on the ball more, with the other at 10, hendo/Milner the other side to press and Lucas sitting. Allows Sturridge and benteke up front with Ings an option too. More players in their right position and playing narrow defensively and counter attacking from deep With the likes of hendo and coutinho picking the ball up in our half

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10 Oct 2015 03:35:49
I agree if I we play the diamond, we can play Lucas or Can at DM, Hendo or Milner at RM, Coutinho or Llalana at LM, Firmino behind the strikers and Studge and Benteke or Ings upfront. It would be a strong setup.

Most likely Klopp plays 4-2-3-1 but you never know, I'd be happy with either setup as we have more attacking mids that can score now (Firmino/Llalana and Coutinho's improved) compared 13/14 and we no longer have a Suarez to demand a spot next to Sturridge.

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10 Oct 2015 08:43:25
I agree with you guys of course he can switch up formations. A manager has to be able to do that but I would be sure he will go with 4231 at first because that is what he knows. But his philosophy if you like is to use leeway-oriented counter pressing which involves having a narrowness in that midfield 3 with the full backs moving in behind the space. Benteke is more like lewandowski than Sturridge is. He can hold the ball up better. I think like ed001 said that Sturridge will thrive for the most part in the team but only as long as he has the mindset to press with the team. But I think he will be doing this from a right attacking mid/wing position. I would prefer him there personally, I just wonder if ed001 or you guys think he would be happy in that position given his insistence on playing centre forward all throughout his career. I'm just hoping the fact that he will be quite narrow and close to Benteke is enough to keep him from having a strop

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{Ed002's Note - He left Chelsea because the club wanted to play him on the left and not as a centre forward.}

10 Oct 2015 09:08:10
You were supposed to comfort me and say "of course he will be happy to play there" ed002 haha. I'm just basing my opinion (I feel justifiably) on the fact that klopp uses those tactics I've mentioned and Sturridge's unwillingness to play out of a centre forward position which as ed002 just mentioned he was unwilling to do at Chelsea. But it's all just speculation cause who can actually know just yet? I'm just saying don't be surprised by anything. Besides I think he really can thrive in the attacking right mid position if that's where he plays and if he's scoring and assisting I think he will be happy.

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10 Oct 2015 09:36:57
I doubt Sturridge will agree to playing out wide. He left Chelsea because they wanted him to play wide, and he refused to play out wide when Suarez was here, leading Rodgers to try the diamond. I think it pointless playing him wide as he is clearly way more effect up top.

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10 Oct 2015 00:35:15
Just to build on the 'who you think will strive' post. I know Klopp likes to play with a defensive mid like Lucas. But they need to run around a lot. Just wondering if you think he still has the legs to play this role. Because he is fantastic imo but just a bit cautious about his role in there with his injuries and age

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10 Oct 2015 01:13:50
If your good at reading the game your usually in the right place already without having to run like a mad man to try and get into position so I think Lucas will be fine.

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10 Oct 2015 01:33:16
Exactly, Mikey!

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10 Oct 2015 09:37:49
Kehl didn't run a lot, and Klopp had no problems playing him.

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