Liverpool Banter Archive October 10 2010
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10 Oct 2010 23:25:44
Lucas Loves c-poulsen being at the club, cause he makes Lucas look good. lol.Cant wait for the takeover to happen, and get back to the footbal. LFC will be run like a machine, we will be doing more with far less on the field and off the field. So bring in Kevin Davies + Honda + "D-Duff and we will become a dogged bolton of epl and grind out results
10 Oct 2010 23:08:18
10 Oct 2010 19:41:22
Has anyone else noticed that in the last few games liverpool have been poor to say the least, and poulsen has been playing in place of lucas.hmmmmmmm, lucas back in anyone?
Can't we just play 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Mereiles in midfield, if Gerrard goes forward then Mereiles sits back a bit and vice versa. Theses defensive midfielders are slowly ruining the game. Also could we try and play players in their positions as much as possible. Jovanovic was impressive for standard liege and Kuyt wins flick ons plus has a knack of scoring important goals so why put them on the wings. Give Pacheco , Amoo & Shelvey a crack at it.
Adam red sox
10 Oct 2010 23:06:17
H&G will backdown and take the offer before it goes to court THEY ARE JUST PISS AND WIND
10 Oct 2010 22:59:39
Hi guys,
which court is this going to be at? Would like to be there to show what the liverpool fan's noise really is!
cheers,
Nick
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The High Court London mate and i think there will be some fans there. I just hope it's a dignified (I think it will be) protest as this case will be shown all over the world.
I'm no legal expert but you can guarantee the judge who is preciding over this case would have all the necessary documents read over this weekend. And just listen to the arugments on the trial day. Then give his decision asap as there would probably be a deadline on this case.
Blair Mayne YNWA
PS. ED do you think or know that Hicks will be there?
{Editor's Note: I don't know I am afraid.}
10 Oct 2010 22:49:07
Malaga in for BABEL loan deal with op to buy £8m
NESV to give ROY money from sales & £40M in JAN and £60M in the SUMMER to help kick start next season and push for top4 spot. after that its all down to the profits made by the club
Out's will be
BABEL LUCAS MAXI JOV NGOG
IN'S POS
SHAWCROSS
MATA
GOMEZ
BENTLY
KUN
ALONSO
10 Oct 2010 22:48:18
I took this of Liverpool-Kop.com and it's the breakdown of the situation at Anfield and the impending courtcase. (sorry for pasting)
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Sensationalised reports have surfaced again recently regarding the possibility Liverpool could suffer a 9 point deduction if the club is forced into administration this week. In this article, I'll look at the legal basis for that possibility, and explore whether it is actually likely to happen.
Media reports arguing that Liverpool now face a possible points deduction are based on speculation, not fact. If you've read any of the reports, you'll see that the majority contain sources such as 'An Insider', or 'A well placed lawyer' etc. In other words, no credible source at all.
The guidelines governing a potential points deduction are set by the Premier League. Before I outline the relevant rules, here is a brief overview the legal process facing LFC should the High Court rule against the club this week:
INSOLVENCY
A company will become insolvent if it is unable to pay its debts as they fall due (s123 of the Insolvency Act 1986). In Liverpool's case, money is owed to Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS), and if that debt is not paid - either by sale of the club or payment by Hicks and Gillett - the club will become insolvent.
ADMINISTRATION
This is a rescue mechanism for insolvent companies and allows them to continue running their business (Introduced by the Insolvency Act 1986). RBS can and probably will follow the Administration route if the debts associated with the club (through holding companies set-up by Hicks and Gillett) are not cleared.
Under Premier League rules, there are (potential) consequences for a football club that enters into Administration. The gravest penalty is a 9 point deduction. Before I get to that though, it is important to appreciate the overall structure of LFC.
STRUCTURE OF LFC
Kop Investment LLC (KI)
An American company, co-owned by Gillett & Hicks. This owns:
Kop Football (Cayman) Ltd (KFCL)
A company registered in the Cayman Islands. This owns:
Kop Football (Holdings) Ltd. (KFHL)
A UK holding company. This owns:
Kop Football Ltd (KFL)
Another UK holding company. This owns:
Liverpool Football Club & Athletic Grounds Ltd (LFCAGL).
This is the club itself.
WHICH COMPANY WILL BECOME INSOLVENT?
Kop Football Ltd (KFL) – Liverpool FC's Parent Undertaking (means the same as parent Company/ Holding Company) - will suffer the Event of Insolvency, NOT the CLUB (LFCAGL). The acquisition debt (i.e. debt incurred as a result of originally buying the club), was placed on KFL, NOT the club. As such, it is KFL that will not be able to pay its debts, and will consequently be placed into Administration.
PREMIER LEAGUE RULES
You can view the 2010-11 Rules of the Premier League below:
Apture™
POINTS DEDUCTION?
Below is the relevant Premier League rule:
s67. Upon a Club or its Parent Undertaking suffering an Event of Insolvency the Board shall have the power to impose upon the Club a deduction of 9 points scored or to be scored in the League competition.
When it comes to which company goes into administration, the fact that the Premier League makes a distinction between the CLUB and its Parent Undertaking is very important, and should be remembered. Note also that s67 is a discretionary power; it is not mandatory, which means the Premier League has a CHOICE whether to impose the deduction. I personally believe they will choose NOT to impose the deduction.
RIGHT OF APPEAL
In the worst case scenario, if the club IS docked 9 points, then an appeal can be lodged within 7 days if:
69.1 - The Event of Insolvency was caused by and resulted directly from circumstances, other than normal business risks, over which it could not reasonably be expected to have had control; and
69.2 - Its Officials had used all due diligence to avoid the happening of that event.
These two provisions are important: It could definitely be argued that LFC could not reasonably be expected to have control over the actions of Hicks and Gillett. It is also beyond question that club officials have used all 'due diligence to avoid Insolvency taking place.
The ultimate proof of this is Broughton, Purslow and Ayre working against Hicks + Gillett to try and sell the club to NESV (i.e. exercising due diligence to avoid entering Administration). If this had gone through without interference from the Owners, the debts owed to RBS would've been wiped out by now.
SUMMARY: WHY LFC WILL AVOID A POINTS DEDUCTION
Taking everything discussed above into account:
Record Turnover/ Good financial management
Liverpool FC (LFCAGL) is a solvent business ( Record turnover for the last 3 years), with a long history of being well run and free of financial problems. Basically, but for the actions of Hicks and Gillett, LFC would be a well-run, financially solvent company.
Negligent Parent Company
It is the club's parent company that will go into administration, NOT the club itself.
Financial mismanagement by H+G
Any Insolvency would NOT have been caused by the club, or the management of the Club; it will have been caused by Hicks and Gillett.
Premier League discretion
The Premier League has discretion NOT to impose a 9 point penalty. It has exercised this discretion in the past.
Persuasive Precedent
Hansa - West Ham United's Parent company - went into Administration in 2008. The Premier League decided not to impose a points penalty because the club itself was well-run; free of financial problems, and was just one of several interests in the portfolio of Icelandic bank Straumur. If Liverpool (i.e. LFCAGL), was actually in debt, and was financially mismanaged, then there would be a much stronger possibility of points being deducted. This is not the case.
Liverpool's situation is NOT different to West Ham's when it comes to interpretation of the PL rules. The details leading to administration etc may be different but the fact remain that:
a) West Ham's holding company went into Administration.
b) This triggered section 67 of the PL rules, i.e. the question of whether to deduct points.
c) The PL took the decision not to deduct points.
The West Ham case is not a binding precedent, but it is persuasive, and if the PL ignores it (and docks points) Liverpool would have a very strong case on appeal as there is (essentially) no real difference between West Ham and LFC's situations.
Implicit support of LFC by PL
In a recent statement, the Premier League approved LFC's sale to NESV:
"The Premier League is satisfied, with the information provided, that the individuals NESV intend to put in place in the event they complete their takeover of Liverpool FC meet the criteria set out in our owners' and directors' test".
Why would they approve it, and then potentially dock the club 9 points, which could then scupper the deal? The PL will be aware that if KFL enters administration, RBS will probably sell to NESV anyway. It's just a roundabout way of achieving the same objective. As such, it is clearly not in the best interests of the PL to dock Liverpool points.
The PL didn't need to release a statement so early about the approval of NESV; it is possible to infer from their actions that the PL is in support of LFC. And why wouldn't it be?
FINAL NOTE
I just don't see any logical reason why the Premier League would dock Liverpool points. There is no automatic need to do it, and a deliberate CHOICE would need to be made to make it happen. As I've argued previously, it is not in the best interests of the PL, or English football for Liverpool to be penalised in this manner.
Damage Liverpool (or any other high-profile successful English club), and you damage English football - I think the Premier League is acutely aware of this. I say that because this principle is enshrined in the PL's own rules. When a club goes into Administration, the PL can suspend it from matches if it likes. When considering whether to suspend, the Board will take certain important things into account, as provided for by section 65:
s65. The Board shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case and to:
* 65.3 the interests of the insolvent Club's Officials, Players, supporters, shareholders and sponsors;
* 65.5 the need to protect the integrity and continuity of the League competition;
* 65.6 the reputation of the Company and the League and the need to promote the game of association football generally; and:
Clearly, the PL takes the reputation of the club AND football in general into account before imposing sanctions; imposing such a devastating penalty on English Football's most successfull club would do nothing for the allure and prestige of English football, would it? Why would the PL cut off its nose to spite its face here?
Having said that, there is a slim possibility that the Premier League may try to save face by impose the penalty only to overturn it on appeal (i.e. imposing the penalty with the private intention of overturning an inevitable appeal).
One final thing: I think Martin Broughton's contention that Liverpool going into Administration would be 'catastrophic' is slightly overstating the issue (!). of course, it's easy to see why he would exaggerate slightly, but the truth is there is a deal on the table, and RBS will almost definitely resurrect the deal with NESV if Liverpool loses the High Court battle this week.
Of course, a 9 point deduction would make the deal less attractive to NESV, but as I've argued, I don't think that is a realistic possibility. And Christian Purslow seems to agree. In an interview today, he emphatically stated:
"I'm not even contemplating administration and nobody should be"
Amen to that.
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So stop panicking the 9 point deduction could of course happen never rule anything out with that ba*tard Hicks. But reading this has made me feel a bit more optimistic.
Blair Mayne YNWA
10 Oct 2010 22:14:30
I honestly think roy will go for adam johnson in january . i feel this way as he is young english talent that is wasting away on man citys bench . i heard that he had a interview that he is very annoyed about sitting on the bench.
10 Oct 2010 22:13:03
Ex in response to the suggestion about selling Torres you said:
What do you think ED {ed's note - it would depend on if the money would be enough for us to buy two top class forwards or not.}
Torres currently sells more shirts and merchandise than any other player in the premier league. To lose him is to lose an enormous pot of gold. The 2 strikers you suggest could make it worth it would need to be superstars not just world class.
Nelio
10 Oct 2010 22:08:07
I fear that Hicks has found finance to pay off RBS. Notice how quiet he has been since last week. I think that's what he has up his sleeve
What do you think ED
{Editor's note - I doubt it, I am not a follower of Liverpool but I think Liverpool have found good stable owners}
10 Oct 2010 22:07:17
Been really annoyed about people sayin torres isint worth 70 million or more . just like to point out doesn't torres have the best goal to game ratio in the premier league for the last 10 years? that is why he is worth 70 million!
10 Oct 2010 21:56:34
Being way on the outside and only getting informatioin from here, and other websites my questions are why would tom hicks want to fight this sale if on the 15th rbs could take control anyway and leave him potless there? and in the possibility that rbs do take control would it not be beneficial to them for us to be sold as a asset without administration? from what i know of admin, its a business that cannot afford to run at a profit? with the club being taken as the loan payment why would we have to go into administration? why can't we just be sold off from the bank for a fair price? and lastly, barcap have been very quiet over this, wasn't they employed to sell us?
10 Oct 2010 21:49:24
To Ed,
Don't get me wrong the first thing that came to mind when i heard of the court case was happening was that there was no way MB CP & IA would not have put there rep & heads on the block, But what i was told makes sense.
Also MB is a Chelsea Fan is he not, so why is he our CM in the first place and in realistic terms he me be really p* *ed off with it and looking for his way to get out of the job and save face
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As it's being left for the courts to decide it's not the boards fault if they lose.
I was just after some sort of idea if it's Kop Holding that decides the clubs ownersihp or the Board of L.F.C.
Markolfc Y.N.W.A.
10 Oct 2010 20:43:50
Not bad Mr.Editor i would go for Keisuke Honda aswell also the russian leagues ends in january i think so easier to get. Other players i would go for would be juan mata or/ and Arda Turan and a decent striker. Possibly try for Tevez if his situation at man city does not improve.
10 Oct 2010 20:28:18
Dear LFC players. .
Please don't let these administrations/ club problems bother you guys.
Please play with more passion, desire & fight till like the world is gonna end.
Please held your heads up high & grow your confidence.
Please be strong for the future of LFC.
Please 'Do It' for us, fans cos we know you can.
For whatever happen, You'll Never Walk Alone. .
Geist
10 Oct 2010 20:09:16
Our manager knew before the transfer window closed we were badly short of strikers and yet we were trying to do last minute deals for third rate players ie Carlton Cole-why did we not sign any quality players in this window-Poulsen has been a massive letdown we can only think what might have been with Van der Vart -this one player could have ignited our season but I think this transfer window will ultimately cost Roy Hodgson his job-he had money available but spent foolishly on substandard players now the deadwood that he inherited from Benitez cannot even rise above Blackpool
AM NOT SAYING THIS IS CONCRETE AS I READ IT FROM ANOTHER GUYS POST WHEN VAN DER VAART SAID HE TURNED DOWN LIVERPOOL TO JOIN SPURS WHEN IN ACTUAL FACT LIVERPOOL TURNED DOWN HIS SERVICES NOW I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT SAID PERSON WAS THINKING WHEN THEY MADE THAT DECISION AS THE LAD LOOKS THE MUTTS NUTS AS FAR AS I CAN SEE. . . .MAYBE WITH COLE AND MEIRELES AND POULSEN WE HAD TOO MANY MIDFIELDERS COMING IN.
RED WILLY
10 Oct 2010 19:58:47
Dear Mr. Editor if the takeover does go through what players would you like too see join liverpool in january? {ed's note - Keisuke Honda, Alexis Sanchez and Kevin Davies. You?}
10 Oct 2010 19:46:59
Hodgson lost the dressing room at Blackburn, over his defensive tactics. They were bottom at Xmas and he left.
10 Oct 2010 19:41:22
Has anyone else noticed that in the last few games liverpool have been poor to say the least, and poulsen has been playing in place of lucas.hmmmmmmm, lucas back in anyone?
10 Oct 2010 19:32:13
Old news to most of you but i've just read something that made me shudder! as we know roy did well with fulham and i heard he did not do so well with blackburn at the time it did not bother me too much, well today i have read that he had 14 yes 14 straight losses at blackburn stuck in the relegation zone! omg. . .
ED can you please tell me if this is true, and if it is, why was it not a stumbling block before roy was appointed,
its starting to look exactly the same with liverpool now,
i truly hope he can turn it around coz he seems like a nice chap!
redsincebirth
Y.N.W.A
10 Oct 2010 19:17:09
To ed, i have not seen the interview with reina so apolagies for that, but also pepe of real madrid is in talks over his contract.
10 Oct 2010 19:08:36
10 Oct 2010 19:00:47
LFC have been approached by DIC but Broughton will not entertains he, s had a kickback from his american mate and you, ll its all pally pally. Believe me ppl read in to it and you, ll find Broughton has sold LFC to his buddies.
Not good news for LFC.
{Editor's Note: This is nonsense - DIC are not in a position to buy Liverpool and no approach has been made.}
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ABSOLUTELY AGREE ED.
10 Oct 2010 19:08:36
Why isn't Danny Pacheo given time look at wilshire(SP) at arsenal Defenders at Manure Silva brothers LFC don't have the courage to give the youngsters a chance.
10 Oct 2010 19:03:57
Our manager knew before the transfer window closed we were badly short of strikers and yet we were trying to do last minute deals for third rate players ie Carlton Cole-why did we not sign any quality players in this window-Poulsen has been a massive letdown we can only think what might have been with Van der Vart -this one player could have ignited our season but I think this transfer window will ultimately cost Roy Hodgson his job-he had money available but spent foolishly on substandard players now the deadwood that he inherited from Benitez cannot even rise above Blackpool
10 Oct 2010 19:03:35
10 Oct 2010 18:57:08
Does anybody think another potential bidder will come out of the woodwork this week to 'muddy the waters' further?
Does anybody think the consortium represented by takeover guru Keith Harris may make a bigger offer?
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EXPECT A GROUP TO MAKE A BIGGER BID THIS WEEK. BUT NESV WILL STILL BE THE WINNING BID. HICKS AND GILLETT ARE JUST WAITING FOR SOME MORE MONEY. JUST GRANDSTANDING HOPEFULLY.
10 Oct 2010 19:01:20
With regards to the pepe contract on the rumours page, i believe you may be a little confused, pepe ( the cb of real madrid) is the one talking about his contract (ssn) and not pepe reina. reina was the first to commit to the club a while back and signed a 6 year deal. hope the clears things up.
{Editor's Note: No - it is Reina, but a recycled article.}
10 Oct 2010 19:01:06
This is *******z speaking
fear not redmen were in safe hands them f*cking dumb ass american leeches won't know whats hit them come next week.
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10 Oct 2010 19:00:47
LFC have been approached by DIC but Broughton will not entertains he, s had a kickback from his american mate and you, ll its all pally pally. Believe me ppl read in to it and you, ll find Broughton has sold LFC to his buddies.
Not good news for LFC.
{Editor's Note: This is nonsense - DIC are not in a position to buy Liverpool and no approach has been made.}
10 Oct 2010 18:57:08
Does anybody think another potential bidder will come out of the woodwork this week to 'muddy the waters' further?
Does anybody think the consortium represented by takeover guru Keith Harris may make a bigger offer?
10 Oct 2010 18:55:42
Roy HODGSON has anyone seen him in the dugout hand on brow head down wheres the enthiusiastic approach, I blame Sammy Lee i believe he, s the weakest link as soon he, s been in the picture the team has been poor we need a another first team coach the second point its the players they need to have a look at themselves skirtel is shi*e bring in Agger top player Gerrard needs to have a good look at himself move Meirless middle cole upfront with torres kuyt wide babel/ johnson wide kelly back
SinghKing
10 Oct 2010 18:54:57
Regardless of ownership issues liverpool should not be in the position that we are, howevever there is currently 4-5 new players that have gone straight in to the first team with a new manager with new ideas. torres looks a shadow of his former self and stevie g can't always carry the team on his back, glen johnson has failed to reach the levels he has shown in the past, if in the nxt 5 games things are not looking better on the pitch, when the team has had time to gel and confidence should have grown, form should have improved, then the board need to act quickly and bring in pellagrini before we find ourselves in a dog fight. no one is to gud to down (leeds, newcastle etc) especially when foreign players have no emotion towards the club. the set up has been all wrong so far, playing meriles right wing for example. i think the problem is roy is picking the formation then trying to pick the players to fit, whereas imo he shud be picking the formation to suite the players, we don't have the players to play 4 4 2, we don't have the fast, tricky, beat his man and cross the ball type wingers. we don't have the forwards either. a 4 3 3/ 4 5 1 with poulsen/ lucas holding with gerrard and merieles either side, cole left babel right with torres through the middle.
reina
johnson carragher agger konchesky
poulsen
gerrard mereiles
babel cole
torres
does any one agree with that's how we should be set up with the players we have?
10 Oct 2010 18:53:13
This is **e***** speaking
liverpool fc have got the services of a master QC the yanks will be s* pping themselves next week
Lord Grabiner QC, one of Britain's most eminent legal brains, is being lined up to represent Liverpool Football Club in the court battle that could determine the club's future.
I have learned that Martin Broughton, Liverpool's chairman, is set to call on Lord Grabiner to help secure a so-called declaratory judgement from the High Court that last week's deal to sell the club was legitimate.
The case, which is likely to be heard on Tuesday or Wednesday, has acquired additional significance since New England Sports Ventures (NESV) indicated this weekend that it may pull out of the deal if Liverpool are docked nine Premier League points as a consequence of going into administration
le the battle commence
from **e***** giving it to you with both barrels
10 Oct 2010 18:47:44
Whatever happened to Broughton saying the new owners will have to pay off debt and build new stadium to fulfill the needs of LFC.
All the latest news suggest the potential american new owners would rather rebuild the Anfield stadium whatever happend to the above has Broughton secretly sold us out, with no new stadium now. Ive got a bad feeling that these new owners will burden LFC with debt somewhere down the line.
SinghKing
10 Oct 2010 18:28:18
Is it just me but is anyone else getting sick of the Redknapps (current media darlings) making 'controversial' comments concerning Liverpool, especially when their comments are usually false i.e Hicks and Gillett bought Kuyt (wrong - Kuyt joined in January 06 - over a year befor H&G took over).
10 Oct 2010 18:23:14
Simon Jordan former owner of Crystal Palace until they went into administration has stated that he thinks 'this mess' will be sorted out in an out of court settlement some time this week.
10 Oct 2010 18:05:27
I struggle to understand some of the rumours on here, NO SPANISH PLAYERS WILL LEAVE REAL MADRID so please stop saying you want arbeloa and alonso it won't happend (as much as i would love to see xabi back) and secondly don't assume that is the new owners decide to build a new stadium that it will by up with the wave of a magic wand, i am a builder and theres plenty of h*cking about from the council just to build a house. i can't even imagine all the complications there would be with a 60,000 seater stadium. starting to get alittle nervous about tuesday's court case, but on the lighter side bring on everton 3-1 gerrard to get 2.
ed am i just rambeling here {nope}
always a red
10 Oct 2010 18:01:03
Been out today with a well known coach from Liverpool FC and he confirmed that Fernando Torres has expressed that his future is elsewhere
Sorry mate, this just sounds like a newspaper clipping "he confirmed" "has expressed", it's balls iyam
10 Oct 2010 17:59:21
Allrite ed, do you think broughton will win the court case and if he loses do you think he has a good plan B?
thanks
{Editor's Note: I am guessing that we will not see an immediate solution to the court case. However, I am sure that everything will work out fine in the end.}
10 Oct 2010 17:37:19
This is t******** speaking
just to put any worries fellow redmen may have regarding the points deduction read as follows
The Premier League has discretion NOT to impose a 9 point penalty. It has exercised this discretion in the past.
Persuasive Precedent
Hansa - West Ham United's Parent company - went into Administration in 2008. The Premier League decided not to impose a points penalty because the club itself was well-run; free of financial problems, and was just one of several interests in the portfolio of Icelandic bank Straumur. If Liverpool (i.e. LFCAGL), was actually in debt, and was financially mismanaged, then there would be a much stronger possibility of points being deducted. This is not the case.
The West Ham case is not a binding precedent, but it is persuasive, and if the PL ignores it (and docks points) Liverpool would have a very strong case on appeal as there is (essentially) no real difference between West Ham and LFC's situations.
Implicit support of LFC by PL
from t******* remember the name remember t******* and may t******* be with you
{Editor's Note: One of the differences is that the WHU holding company was involved in a number of business ventures, Kop Holdings isn't.}
10 Oct 2010 17:37:06
Why don't that blue ose b*rtard who goes on about us going to then in admin get a life worry bout there team and h*ck off back to that bog eyed blue nose b*rtard of a team i hate you all more than the scum down the lancs
10 Oct 2010 17:36:47
This quote is from the Telegraph a year or so back.
Why is everone saying LFC will be deducted 9 points if it's holding company go into administration. How can the LFC situation be different from the West Ham situation? The difference with Portsmouth was that they folded leaving creditors with a tiny payout. This is not the case with LFC who are a going concern.
"West Ham United plc are regarded as the member organisation by the Premier League, meaning that the possibility of a sporting sanction against the team, such as the deduction of points, could not be considered in respect of any financial issues relating to the holding company."
10 Oct 2010 17:34:59
Rumour - liverpool to go into administration, and no-one to give a h*ck. not a big club (anymore) won't be missed. liverpool are a big club the same way newcastle are a big club. minus 9 and gerrard, reina, torres and anfield to be sold (to clear debt). groundshare with tranmere next season(championship)
lol the tiger
10 Oct 2010 17:32:52
JUST TO LET YOU NO ALL LIVERPOOL FANS WAKE UP YOU TO ED! I HAVE SUPPORTED LIVERPOOL 35YEARS AND THIS TAKEOVER IS A JOKE MARK MY WORDS, AFTER THIS TAKEOVER, WE WILL BE A MID TABLE CLUB NO CHAMPIONS LEAUGE FOOTBALL, NO NEW GROUND, THEASE PEOPLE HAVE NO MONEY TO COMPETE WITH THE BIG BOYS, YOU NEED MONEY WRONG TAKEOVER, BROUGHTON FAN OF CHELSEA AND GOOD MATES OF AMERICANS, HE DOING THIS FOR HIM AND CHELSEA, BASEBALL IS NEVER LIKE FOOTBALL, YOU NEED MONEY TO COMPETE, WAIT FOR BETTER TAKEOVER, IT WILL COME ITS NEVER TO LATE ONE AMERICANS FOR ANOTHER WHAT A JOKE! WAIT AND SEE.
10 Oct 2010 17:29:53
10 Oct 2010 13:16:06
Pure brinkmanship going on in the media. Keep the faith, and take no notice of the Kop enemies.
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QUITE RIGHT. THE WEST HAM AND CHELSEA LOVING LONDON MEDIA ARE DYING TO SEE LIVERPOOL GO INTO ADMINISTRATION. OF COURSE WEST HAM COULDN'T POSSIBLY GO INTO ADMIN. LAST YEAR, BUT LIVERPOOL BRING IT ON. ONE DIFFERENCE LIVERPOOL IS MAKING LOADS OF MONEY COMMERCIALLY. I AM NOT SURE A COMPANY MAKING LOADS OF MONEY CAN GO INTO ADMINISTRATION.
10 Oct 2010 17:24:35
If NESV takes over. I would be reallly pleased if they remove Roy from managerial role and bring Rijkaard, Pelligrini or Klinnsmann.
From all the games we have played, the reason that i see which has put us down at the table is Roy is playing his players at the right positions that's it! . If he just identifies the flaws there we can move up the top.
Just for example. Agger willfully said that he will want to play at centre then why force him at left again and again whre he is not comfortable . Kelly did impressed when he played there again Robonicki i think . why not give Kelly a chance to prove.
Rijkaard, Pelligrini or Klinsmann! . Please NESV if you take over
{Editor's Note: If NESV take over I would expect consolidation for the rest of the season and then a review of where we are. It will do no good at all if the arrived and started ripping things apart.}
10 Oct 2010 17:21:17
Yes there have been lots of excellent articles in the newspapers this weekend but loads of nasty anti Liverpool articles from the usual Murdoch 'red top' suspects. These anti Liverpool articles always seem to be able to print absolute untruths about H&G and the situation at Liverpool. One of the worst pieces is in the Mail on Sunday by Piers Morgan. Many seem not to mention the debt has been put on the club by the H&G buyout, nothing to do with buying players we could not afford. They are desperate for us to lose 9 points and go into administration. Liverpool is not Portsmouth. Liverpool are still making loads of money commercially. Administration would be totally ridiculous and unfair.
10 Oct 2010 17:19:37
All reds should stop hicks getting new backers
10 Oct 2010 17:16:06
We are 18th in the table. People need to forget about kaka aguero villa dzeko etc. . They don't want to come to puny old liverpool.
I'm not saying this is what will happen but-
In:
Taiwo - 6m
L.Diarra - 8m Babel
Mata - 10m+babel
Hazard - 15m
Arbeloa+4m-Johnson
Keissling(or other)-15m
centre back-6-10m
=about 62m
10 Oct 2010 17:10:53
"I believe that by the end of Tuesday Hick's will be going back to Texas with his tail between his legs."
And may his way back to Texas be the most unpleasant one.
10 Oct 2010 17:07:13
Im woried will liverpool go down
ED please answer {ed's note - if they don't start performing better of course they will. I very much doubt that they can continue to perform quite so badly for the rest of the season though.}
10 Oct 2010 17:01:15
With all due respect to everyone who writes on here, and i do read it daily.
if you were a world class player, would you realy join Liverpool at present, even if all goes well next week no one will want to join untill the summer or beyond, world class players want CL not 7th - 14th in the league. 2012/ 2013 before we are any good again.
Sammy lee should run the reserves, get Dalglish to help Roy
10 Oct 2010 16:45:16
I WOULD JUST LOVE IT OF YOU LOT COME TO GOODISON PARK IN ADMIN. HA HA HA HA.
10 Oct 2010 16:41:32
10 Oct 2010 16:30:12
Who would sacrifice not having CL football until 2012 in exchange for the club being financially stable, a new or upgraded stadium, and to be in the title mix in the 2012/ 2013 season?
Good point made here, but would you really risk losing Torres and letting Gerrard n Carra retire without winning the League. I would really prefer a Man City type owner who could make us serious contenders by next year. Torres, Gerrard, Reina, J.Cole etc are already quality but only need some confidence and along with additions like as Suarez, Aguero, etc for example would be really good.
I TOATL AGREE.
10 Oct 2010 16:30:12
Who would sacrifice not having CL football until 2012 in exchange for the club being financially stable, a new or upgraded stadium, and to be in the title mix in the 2012/ 2013 season?
Good point made here, but would you really risk losing Torres and letting Gerrard n Carra retire without winning the League. I would really prefer a Man City type owner who could make us serious contenders by next year. Torres, Gerrard, Reina, J.Cole etc are already quality but only need some confidence and along with additions like as Suarez, Aguero, etc for example would be really good.
10 Oct 2010 16:14:07
The option to re-finance again could happen if hicks wins the court case (Although he will not win the court case). If he wins he will be able to sack CP & IA, and put his men on the board, thus getting board approval. Although he will not win the case so good bye to him.
{Editor's Note: It is more complex than that - he would also need someone to loan the money to him. Then there is Gillett's financial situation. If he could refinance before Friday, using anything other than the club as collateral he will maintain control in any case.}
10 Oct 2010 15:55:10
I been a lfc fan 4 29 years , and if lfc do get relegated which i think they won't , but if they do it will make me support them even more , even if lfc was in league 2 i still b proud of being a lfc fan , lfc till i die ynwa
{Editor's NOte: Before anyone panics, it will be at least three years before we are in League 2.}
10 Oct 2010 15:42:58
Love the site Ed's keep it up.I have been a 'Pool fan for nearly 30 years and have never been so worried has I have beeb in the last few months but it looks like some light at the end of the tunnel, give Roy until xmas and she how we are doing only 5 points of the top 4 we need stability now more than ever and evrything else will fall into place.We need Roy to play players in the right positions and we need to bring in the right players in and not spending millions on rubbish or over priced players also give youth a chance bleed in 1 or 2 plyers in at a time against teams that we should beat easily(at the mo that's nobdy)
The playeres have to start showing more heart and beliving in themsleves and we'll shoot up the table
cheer's lads.
10 Oct 2010 15:04:05
Iam sick to death of the newspapers scare mongering about liverpool going to be docked points tom hicks calling us a noise wahtever, on the 15th october it can go one of two ways we go into adminstraition or we are sold simple everyone knows about the points deduction but lets be reliastic we are lfc fans and will support them though what ever happens this weeks can make or break us but i know lfc will be supported .
also just heard rick parry has brockered the deal with nesv as reported on sky sport
so lfc you will never walk alone with the best fans in the world through thick and thin
lets get behind the reds
10 Oct 2010 14:56:54
I hope the judge won't be a manure supporter!
RHI
10 Oct 2010 14:51:54
"a noise we are dealing with".
Well you must admit we are certainly a noise,
A noise what gives hicks a frikkin headache
A noise what people worldwide admire.
A noise what chelsea and others can't find.
And more important a noise what will support
the team thru thick n thin, and back the new owners.
10 Oct 2010 14:41:19
I can't believe people are alreay sending emails to the potential new owners.
for gods sake take a look at yourselves - who gives you the right to put in jeapordy liverpool football club. a few pointers for all the idiots
NESV is a well run corporation with a lot of rich contributors whos total wealth is estimate at 10 billion usd no small sum, they have a history in sports management an have done an excellent job with the red sox so why do you presume to speak on behalf of all liverpool fans and bombard these people with demands etc and maybe make them think twice about purchasing a club with fans so ignorant they threaten the very hand that feeds them.
i for one don't want a sugar daddy splashing millions on mercenary players who don't care who they play for only the money they receive, also under the new rules it won't make any difference after next year as we will have to live to our means so as long as the new owners invest in the next window to increase the squad with quality we will then reap the benefits of not having high interest to pay back on debts.
these new owners are soundd business men who all want to win, i like broughton, purslow and ayre think they are the best option so please don't presume you speak for me or for all lfc fans
bigg2966
10 Oct 2010 14:29:09
Perhaps it's the case of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but, honestly, I don't see what the fuss is about with Dzeko and Suarez, especially the latter.I got to watch Suarez in Africa 2010 in the world. .and what I left me totally unimpressed.The boy's got no pace, skill, guile, agility and dexterity.
The lad sure is strong, can hold up the ball quite well, and hit 'em.But that's just about it, nothing special.
He doesn't posses the finesse, mobility, accelaration and marksmanship of Nando;neither the dribbles, pace and finishing of Villa, nor the skill, power, movement and clinical foot of Tevez's.
What we need is a forward in the mould of the above men;anything less is simply unacceptable.
Players like Suarez, Dzeko, Bent, Tim Cahill, Klose, Fabiano, Higuiain, Gomes, Cardozo, Laquinta, Ibrahimovic, Bendthner and Crouch I don't consider to be footballers at all.They wouldn't even make it to the stands in my team, let alone starting XI.
I appreciate skill, pace, trickery, dexterity, super mobility, power (please don't misconstrue that as huge size), and, moreover, marksmanship.
So, in January, if we are to sign a forward, I'd like to see Podolski, as Villa or Tevez are dead uncerts.The German's quick, can dribble past a man, and is excellent finisher.
Also, in the summer, or the next 2 years at the least, I'd like to see these lads at LFC:
-Gary Cahill
-Gregory Van der Wiel
-Aly Cissokho
-Alexis Sanchez
-Anthony Annan
-Juan Mata
-Lukas Podolski
Ed, is that list too unrealistic?
=The Young Hopefuls=
{Editor's Note: I don't see Podolski as wanting to move to Liverpool. Mata is a great player but he is playing in the Champions League for a club at the top of the Spanish league - why would he leave? Valencia need money, if he were to be sold there would be many suiters. Van der Wiel amy come to England but I doubt Liverpool. The others would be possible though.}
10 Oct 2010 14:20:36
At £300m I'd have expected major players from Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, China etc to have shown serious interest. NESV got Liverpool on the cheap!
Martin Broughton did what was best for Chelsea - by going with the American. He knows Liverpool under NESV won't be challenging for major honours.
The best thing that could happen is for RBS to take control (on the 15th) and sell to people with the resources to take this club forward.
{Editor's Note: Despite there being other interested parties over the past few months, it is clear that only two bids were made for the club, and one of these has been preferred over the other. RBS taking control of the club would not make additional buyers materialise - and would possibly have the potential detrimental effect of a points deduction. I assume that you are one of the people who have been bombarding the potential new owners with hate mail already.}
10 Oct 2010 14:19:38
RedTed said at 10 Oct 2010 10:08:31:
"I cannot believe that Standard Chartered our shirt sponsors would allow their name to be associated with an entity I'm the brink of administration. What kind of reputational risk does this give them? Why haven't they stepped in?
Thoughts anyone ?"
I am not sure what you would expect them to do. They are simply a sponsor and I very much doubt that the plight of Liverpool at the moment would cause them any reputational risk. They provide sponsorship for the purposes of advertising - and their is an old adage that "all publicity is good publicity".
Sharkey.
Red Ted did not say this some mug with no understanding of anything.
The real Red Ted
10 Oct 2010 13:16:06
Pure brinkmanship going on in the media. Keep the faith, and take no notice of the Kop enemies.
10 Oct 2010 13:07:38
Can't see us being deducted 9 points even if we go into administration because someone would buy us straight away from the bank and to be deducted 9 points will be if you are unable to pay the players etc and Broughton mentioned last month that we have enough money to cover costs at least til the end of next year. The club is running on a profit only money we are in debt is the loan which someone would happily pay off with RBS to take over.
10 Oct 2010 13:02:08
That last poster is right about the haters and bitter people having 1 last pop at us.but we will have d last laugh.you should read some of the disgusting stuff that is been said about us on a page set up on facebook!
10 Oct 2010 12:27:05
Alexis sanchez is the man we need.The guy is amazing. Please roy sign him and mata too.
10 Oct 2010 12:22:35
10 Oct 2010 11:55:37
Can people please stop with the ridiculous rumours! Can't believe how much negatavity there is! People are saying things like krancjar, pavlychenko and s taylor! Wtf is that abwt if they aint good enough for spurs or Newcastle they damn sure ain't good enough for liverpool
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NESV is not good enough! so what can we do? ?suarez?dzeko?
10 Oct 2010 12:10:38
Does anyone know what the scouting procedure is with regards baseball teams and The Red Sox in particular? Do the owners oversee a series of scouts or does the manager?
10 Oct 2010 11:42:21
I just saw on sky sports news ticker bar that hicks has described liverpool fans as "a noise we are dealing with". . . what an utter disgrace i suggest we make as much noise as possible and send him home deaf!
pud
ynwa
10 Oct 2010 11:34:21
Is it me or since the whole court case was definate, Martin Broughton has since used the Media to strenghten his position.
I.E Making sure that everyone is aware that if the court do not agree the sale then the club WILL go into administration. Where as before the courtcase saga he was saying it was highly unlikely.
He is a smart cookie and I am glad he is on our side.
YNWA
10 Oct 2010 11:28:30
Going into administration is not a given! IF the court case goes the way of H&G then RBS could do one of two things:
1. Call in the debt so we may be in adminstration. 2.sell the debt to someone else i.e. NESV. So we are not in adminstration. The debt is currently in their Toxic debt portfolio so they want their money back asap. Unless they are thick, and they are not, they also would also not want to put us into administration. . .the value of the club would fall and their chances of getting their money back would evaporate. If H&G hold onto the club and we lose 9 points and go down ( God forbid) the club would be worth much less. .asset stripping by selling our best players would not cover the debt so H&G are desperate. Who would they sell? Torres? Gerrard? Reina? Tops £100M? H&G then have nowhere to go. They lose which ever which way. The club is "owned" by NESV whatever. .just depends on the price.
Personally I would suspect plan B is that RBS sell the debt to NESV and then they are in control of H&G. Rememer that the board have been in discussions with RBS throughout this process. RBS get their money back and do not have to deal with it anymore. H&G are told to get on their bikes by NESV. NESV get the club cheaper and can use the extra to invest in team and stadium.
These guys know a) each other and b) big business. If H&G want to play dirty I reckon John Henry and his associates will know how to deal with them.
I also think from my experience at Board level in the UK the Hicks has made a serious misjudgement of UK law which he obviously does not understand. He cannot sack the board without due cause and if Broughton's words are true then he has no leg to stand on. If the paperwork exists to demonstrate that Hicks agreed to Broughton being the only person that can change the board ( and if so that would be a clever thing on the part of Broughton) then I cannot see how Hicks can win.He is trying buying time. However his credibilty falls with every passing hour.
I would recommend buying Boston Red Sox caps for the next game so we can all wear them!
Keep the faith! This will be resolved shortly in our favour!
10 Oct 2010 11:27:31
Unsigned wrote at 10 Oct 2010 11:05:15:
"I think koptalk might truly have an insider in the club because they were the 1st to publish that a usa and uae consortium are battling to buy the club before it was published officially on lfc website."
They were wrong then. There was no battle between a UAE and a USA consortium. Sharkey.
10 Oct 2010 11:20:39
Double relegation battle next weekend.
Lpool v Bitters
and West Ham v Wolves.
If Lpool play out a draw with the bitters and West ham or wolves win. . . . . .Were both in the bottom 3.
I think this is a distinct possibility.
What a joke. . . . .Merseyside after 8 games, nearly a quarter into the season and both in relegation zone.
Unbeliveable.
10 Oct 2010 11:18:40
10 Oct 2010 10:18:29
Are NESV right to take over liverpool , they are now saying that if we get deducted 9 points they will walk away, do we really want owners so shallow, how many of us will do the same. .NONE, do they really want to bring back the glory days or are they just in for making a quick buck, we might be in the same position in a few years time.
Magsman YNWA. .
Response: I think the only reason they are saying this is to push through a sale (tactical). If the courts take it into consideration, they will see it as a viable takeover option which is limited, thus influencing a faster sale. I doubt they are in to make a quick buck, barring in mind it will take a lot of time before they recoup all the money (Clearing of debts, stadium investment) they put into the club. Everyting you are reading in the media which the different parties have said, have all been calculated. Their lawyers would have informed them all of what to say and what not to say
South African YNWA
10 Oct 2010 11:05:15
I think koptalk might truly have an insider in the club because they were the 1st to publish that a usa and uae consortium are battling to buy the club before it was published officially on lfc website.
10 Oct 2010 10:56:50
Roy - Oneill
So Ed who would be your choice as manager to drive us onwards and upwards? ?
My Choice would be Pelligrini ex madrid manager.
LFCneverdie
{Editor's note - I would probably pick Pelligrini as well}
10 Oct 2010 10:56:50
My personal opinion is that we have nothing to worry about, mr broughton is a intelligent man and would have made sure that he was the only person who could change the board and would have it all in writing. We are going to win the 1st court case h&g willp robably apeal and lose again. Nesv are going to be are new owners and im 100% confident in that
Bilverstone red
10 Oct 2010 10:55:55
The thing that is bugging me the most about that joke hicks and his muppet gillet is why do they think they have the right to control our great club. yes there name is down as the owners but surely if your that hated and even knowing that u just being at the ground brings out so much hatred you would have to walk away. But hicks is actually fighting to stay. WHY? ?? ? how can he want to stay and then describe liverpool fans as ' a noise we are dealing with' surely if hes saying stuff like that he would want to be as far away as poissible. Lets hope the proposed takeover goes ahead and that John W Henry and his backers actaully listen to the concerns of the supporters and make sure that nothing like this ever happens to our club ever again.
Ed. The mata story is starting to get legs and seems a real possibility. Do you think roy wants him as hes a player we are crying out for? ? ?HUYTON RED
{Editor's note - I think he would be a brilliant buy for Liverpool, not sure if Rh is interested or not}
10 Oct 2010 10:55:17
"Mourinio has always got his man. . .one player he has tried to sign 3 times. . he is now attempting to sign AGAIN, this time in a player swap rather than straight cash. . and it's turned heads. . expect press reports about KAKA or ALONSO over the papers in the next few days, as Mourinio tries one last time to get his man!"
I thought Jose have realised no way he is getting Lucas , the brazilian is going no where . . Kaka or no Kaka .
If he wants Gerrard , then I think few of us will volunteer to drop Stevie at the Madrid gates, and if we are getting Alonso in return then this will be the best deal of the year .
But I doubt Gerrard going and I very much doubt Alonso leaving RM , he is one of the main players for them and for Jose.
Roy
Roy
10 Oct 2010 10:48:26
"Are NESV right to take over liverpool , they are now saying that if we get deducted 9 points they will walk away, do we really want owners so shallow"
I obviously don't know, but I'd say it's all part of a move to undermine Hicks & Gillett's before the court case - as is everything Broughton has been saying.
As for the media, they love this story and the longer it runs the better - a lot of media pundits/ ex players have shown themselves to be unreliable during this period. I for one have stopped listening, watching, reading any of it, and will continue to do so when it's all over.They have enjoyed a great club like LFC going to the wall, a club that until very recently was an example to all. One that has acheived so much and brought so much glory to our city & this country - unforgivable.
10 Oct 2010 10:20:50
I'm not saying Roy, is the right man for the Job cos personally i don't think he is (even though i do rate him at lesser clubs and quite like the guy). If Roy Does get the Sack lets all hope we don't end up Martin ONeill.
If we do then we might as well forget about winning anything again and get used to long ball, no tactics, and no way of competing against the better teams.
Whats your thought ED ?
LFCneverdie {ed's note - O'Neill is a terrible manager, he would take us downhill fast and would make even less use of the kids than we already do.}
10 Oct 2010 10:18:29
Are NESV right to take over liverpool , they are now saying that if we get deducted 9 points they will walk away, do we really want owners so shallow, how many of us will do the same. .NONE, do they really want to bring back the glory days or are they just in for making a quick buck, we might be in the same position in a few years time.
Magsman YNWA. .
10 Oct 2010 10:14:12
What liverpool needs is strong player, but not players like arsenal! Buy muntari 10m, inler 12m, Gervinho 12m, and a strong striker.
10 Oct 2010 10:00:55
"Also get rid of the dead wood"
Don't forget Maxi, surely he has to go.
10 Oct 2010 09:56:33
In the NENS website, the soccer forum, one of the soccer analyst explain what exactly is wrong with liverpool this season.He said we sud be using 4-4-2 formation and stefan kessling shud be a striking partner for torres and Gerrard shud be deploy as a free attacking midfielder.You can check the analysis on www.Nesn.Com.If the new owners will be taking advise from their analyst, then this can only mean a bright future for the team.Press believable if u agree and unbelievable if you don't.Ed what do you think about the article.Lfc number 1 fan from Nigeria {ed's note - we have been playing 4-4-2, but we don't have Stefan Kessling to play alongside Torres so it is a pointless article.}
10 Oct 2010 09:56:10
"We should be starting with"
Glad you're not manager.
10 Oct 2010 09:18:10
To the person who wrote:
10 Oct 2010 00:51:23
We should be starting with
Reina
Carra kyrgiakos agger konchesky
Gerrard poulsen meireles
Cole jovanovic
Torres
Etc. .
Poulsen has been our worse player have you watched LFC this season! He is not of the correct quality for the EPL!
10 Oct 2010 08:38:44
I believe nesv should be given a chance, i agree that when you google j w henry, his personall fortune does not seem like he will be able to afford to take the club forward, however is he not, just the man heading a consortium? all of whom have large bank accounts im sure. there is any thing from 11 to 16 of them. if for arguments sake we say there is 11, JWH has around 600m and the others have say 150m each (just guessing) then between then that is around the 2 billion mark. if liverpool was run as business successfully, with the global fan base that we have, with a stadium increase or building stanley park, not paying millions upon millions each year on paying off debts, we wud be able to compete with any super club in the world.
its ok saying we need to spend 100m in the summer to compete, it needs to be spent wisely and on the the right players, benitez spent close to 200m in his time and majority was wasted! i like roy hodgson but i don't think he is the right man for the job. i think he looks way put of his depth, i don't think he was first choice either. i think even if roy had the money this summer, konchesky and poulsen wud have been brought. again another mananger wasting money. to compete we need quility not quantity. wthout the lure of champions league football, we need the lure of a great mananger that big players want to play under.
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10 Oct 2010 08:23:54
09 Oct 2010 23:55:26
PLAYERS WE NEED TO SELL
DEGAN. .KYRIAGOS. .SKRTEL. .AURELLIO. KONCHESKY
INSUA. . RODRIGUEZ. EL ZHAR. PLESSIS. ITANDJE.
KUYT. .LUCAS. .POULSON. BABEL. JOVANAVIC. NGOG
AQUALANI.
PLAYERS TO KEEP
REINA. JONES. JOHNSON. . CARRAGHER.
AGGER. GERRARD. MEIRELES. COLE. TORRES
PLAYERS COMEING THROUGH
DARBY. KELLY. AYALA. WILSON. WISDOM. COADY
FLANAGAN. MAVINGA. ROBINSON. AMOO. STERLING
SPEARING. ROBERTS. BRUNA. INCE. FERNANDEZ
SHELVEY. PACHECO. ECCLESTONE. NGOO
PLAYERS TO BUY
HANGELAND. CAHILL. LAHM. A.JOHNSON. BALE.
ALONSO. .BENEGRA. MATA. .DZENKO. AGUERO
WICKHAM.
(31) (13)
i posted this last night nice to see im agreed with i admit getting bale and lahm might be tough but alonso aguero and mata are all unsettled at there clubs and the rest are all buyable it will take some money tho i think probable values and let me know if you disagree are.
ins. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . outs
HANGELAND. .£7M. . . . . . SKRTEL. . £6M
CAHILL. . . . . £11M. . . . . KYRIAGOS. .£1.5M
LAHM. . . . . . £20M. . . . . DEGAN. . . FREE
A.JOHNSON. .£15M . . . AURELLIO. FREE
BALE. . . . . .£20M . INSUA. . .£4M
ALONSO. . . .£25M .KONCHESKY.£3M
MATA. . . . . .£16M. . . . . RODRIGUEZ. £3M
BANEGRA. . . .£10M. . . . . PLESSIS. . £500,000
WICKHAM. . . £8M. . . . . .EL ZHAR. . .£500,000
AGUERO. . . . £22M. . . . . ITANDJE. . .FREE
DZENKO. . . . .£25M. . . . .KUYT. . . . .£12M
. . . . LUCAS. . . .£8M
. . . . POULSON. .£3M
. . . .JOVANAVIC.£3M
. . . . .BABEL. . . £8M
. . . .AQUALANI. £12M
. . . . .NGOG. . . .£7M
TOTAL INS. £189M. . . . . . . OUTS. . £71M
10 Oct 2010 03:16:10
Lot of people concerned about Mr Broughtons latest comments re club going into administration and this affecting the clubs value-to me this is all part of the game of brinkmanship! Think about it, this is a warning to Hicks that there could be even less money put on the table should he try and drag this out-I would be pretty pissed if I was set to lose such huge amounts but where is the rule that says every business sells for more than you purchased it for! that's business! !
10 Oct 2010 02:34:56
The sunday telegraph in sydney australia reported that a number of english clubs were interested in Kaka after he is potentially on the out at Madrid. The 3 clubs mentioned were Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool.
New owners must have loads of cash if there going against them 2
10 Oct 2010 02:28:38
I was in liverpool and theres rumours that gillett and hicks have said they are not going to sell the club. WE WANT THE YONKS OUT!
10 Oct 2010 01:48:27
If we do win next week. we would have approx 75 mil
2 spend in jan. 20mil leftover fro mash going.
extra money not being wasted on intrest payments
9 mil a month by all account after re finance in april.
extra 20 mil top up from new owners.
f. contraeo left back £15 mil
j. navas. winger. £17 mil
k. honda winger. 12 mil
s. aguero forward 25mil. lets just hope this time next week we can dream about players instead of this rubbish. broughton, purslow & ayre have all stuck the necks out for LFC.!
YNWA. AS BROUGHTON SAID " KEEP THE FAITH"
10 Oct 2010 00:51:23
We should be starting with
Reina
Carra kyrgiakos agger konchesky
Gerrard poulsen meireles
Cole jovanovic
Torres
Subs.
Kelly
Wilson
Mavinga
Maxi
Ngog
Bring in, elia. . banega. .lukaku
Sell squirtle, degen, lucas, aquilani, johnson
10 Oct 2010 00:23:52
It's unlikly martin broughton would have stuck his neck out if it wasnt 99% certain we would win in court. brinkmanship going on be hind the scenes. out of court settlement by tuesday would be great! !
get lost h&g forever! YNWA keep the faith!
10 Oct 2010 00:16:32
Any news on the court date.
{Editor's Note: Next week.}
10 Oct 2010 00:14:41
RE:martin broughton do full circle, from a snake in the grass, to a hero to a snake again
Your forgeting that liverpool has made the man media success, mr big head has been playing the cameras for his own needs and us the fans when it suits him. He will now be offered fame to go along with his business sucess. i always thought martin broughton was snake in the grass. It just so happens that the snake wants the same objectives as the fans. I wouldn't trust mr tobaccos, cause i belive he lacks ethics and hss got his own agenda when it comes to the sale of the club. he is benefiting personally by selling to red-sox. He was brought in the sell the club by RBS and he has done that, but i don't think he sold the club to the right person.
09 Oct 2010 23:56:24
For want of a better phrase. .'Squeeky bum time!'
Good will out fellas, good will out.