Liverpool Banter Archive July 10 2015

10 Jul 2015 22:22:35
Hi

Hope your all well

Would you except 45 mill for sterling ? If you had a say or would you hold out for 50

Thanks

10 Jul 2015 22:39:56
Take £45m all day long

10 Jul 2015 22:50:50
I'd accept 42m + around 4m to 8m in add-ons.

10 Jul 2015 23:01:50
Before the summer began I would have been more than happy with £40m.

10 Jul 2015 23:16:13
Alsong as strengthening the squad isn't soley dependant on sterling going I.e we can still get benteke for instance

And the club don't mind losing out on atleast 30 mil then they can.do what they want.

10 Jul 2015 23:23:13
Take it. We're talking £5m and principle. We so no, they leave it. That's it. No one else is around are they? Roll on some months, while paying him to call in sick or play reserve football, he buys out. We lose what? £30m more? He wins we're dragged through an awful episode always tared with this buy out forever.

It's £45m. even if we only end up with £30m, that's still great. Main thing though is getting rid. Even Suarez didn't get to this. This is toxic, a cancer, this is as bad as it gets.

10 Jul 2015 23:40:18
Take it with the proviso that he hands in a transfer request.

10 Jul 2015 23:42:13
Id take their offer of 40 + m, he's not worth it, and with all the bs he's doing I'd be glad to get a bad egg out of the club

11 Jul 2015 00:59:42
I think we've slightly stuck ourselves into a corner, saying unless a club stump up 50m, he's staying! If we give in and say OK to 42m+4 in add ons, will that show us in a bad light for other deals to sell our players? In my view, he's not worth the 40m, but without a crystal ball, nobody will know what his future holds!

11 Jul 2015 01:34:48
I'd sell Sterling for £45 million(ish) all day and no problems. I'd actually be laughing about it as well. We are robbing Manchester City and they are the ones pushing for the deal, Sterling is a player with very good potential but he's never going to be great, in my opinion. Let's be real here, he doesn't hold a candle to the likes of John Barnes in his pomp and his attitude has been exposed as not very good, just like his shooting in one on ones. :D

If Sterling and Ward think they have a better future at Man City then great, we are getting an amazing deal, Sterling is going to be a trophy player for City like an old man with a young pretty wife, who's only in it for the money and golden trinkets they are afforded.

My only regret as a Liverpool fan is that we have only one Raheem Sterling to sell for that type of money. City are so stupid they have so many other players they could pay huge fortunes to get, who have better productivity, goals and play making ability but they want Raheem Sterling at a ridiculous cost and we are the ones who are going to benefit from it. God bless Raheem Sterling, thanks a million x 45. See ya!

11 Jul 2015 02:11:46
Stirling has burnt his bridges. Time to go and good riddance. £45M fine. Just go.

11 Jul 2015 02:16:51
i think we should take 45 mil (however it's made up), rationale as follows:
-We have to negotiate- city are playing fair here, £40 mil is a good second offer (not derisory at all), but we have to get more to show we are not week in the negotiation front. I think another £5 mil would make it a win win for city and liverpool.

On a separate note, I think it's a tragic move for his career, he is not ready for this move. We should cut him some slack, as he's just a kid that has been badly advised. Good luck to him, sooner he's off our hands the better, but good luck. Let's not be haters.

Good night and God bless.

11 Jul 2015 02:42:38
I would have taken 30mil.

10 Jul 2015 21:36:16
With skrtel signing his new deal it looks like one of Sakho or lovren will be sold.

10 Jul 2015 22:00:13
Rubbish. Skrtel and sakho are the best we have for experience. Lovren will not be sold because Rogers will put his trust in the guy forever and hopefully will be proved right. He was great at Southampton. It's the right back position that needs solving now. And they need faith in the keeper.

10 Jul 2015 22:09:18
Nathaniel Clyne is a goalkeeper then ?

10 Jul 2015 22:11:39
Magico you really need to have a little search around on internet regarding Liverpool right backs 😊

10 Jul 2015 22:20:38
Meant the left back sorry. Jose Enrique needs scrapping and moreno needs to concentrate or he'll be heading back to Spain soon also.
But moreno going forward is great to see. reminds me of riise

10 Jul 2015 22:30:57
Thought we'd just signed a very accomplished right back in Nathaniel Clyne.

10 Jul 2015 22:16:49
Skrtel is the worst CB we have and the fact that BR and many others think he's our best CB shows how little they know about defence. Lovren is a good CB who is short of confidence and playing with a poor CB (Skrtel) next to him with no cover from non-DM's like Allen and SG exposed him while he never had to do that at Southampton due to playing with a more competent CB in Fonte and protection with Wanyama and Scneiderlein. Skrtel is the common denominator in all the poor games the other CB's have because he doesn't communicate, drops too deep, other defenders can't play the offside because he keeps the opposition onside, goes for balls he can't win hence, others have to cover for him, lacks positioning hence his last ditch tackles and gets bullied by every big striker so don't know where his reputation for being tough comes from. Better get ready for more heart in mouth moments from the so called "best CB at LFC".

11 Jul 2015 00:26:35
Redohio i could not have said it any better myself.

11 Jul 2015 00:50:06
He's a good centre back Ohio, but unfortunately not Liverpool level, despite his admirable passion and effort.

Red Rum

11 Jul 2015 04:45:48
Redohio

Sorry but you are completely contradicting.
Skrtel is a poor defender and Lovren is just short on confidence? Give me a break mate.
So lovren needs Wanyanma, Morgan and fonte to be effective and then you say Lucas is enough in the middle and should be the first name on the sheet.

Now let's talk about facts.

Lovren always lacked pace and every player with bit of pace will take him to kinder garden. He needs to play high up close to the DM every time else he is in big trouble.

He goes for the early audacious tackle, miss them completely and track back to cover them up, by this time Skrtel might already have dropped deep.

We have one good defender in Sakho and that's it for now.

11 Jul 2015 06:58:44
Its getting a wee tiresome reading people's word for word copy of Ed001s view on Skrtel.
Personally I don't agree with Ed001 here.

Skrtel has a tough job. Covering for right backs who go missing/don't concentrate. Covering for a general lack of pace in the back four.(I know pace is available but it's not picked).
He knows his limitations.
IMHO he commits in the tackle,generally strong combatant (although Drogba/Benteke et al don't seem too worried about him). He gives a 100%.

He also scores goals.

True he's not skillful.
True he drops deep sometimes
.
True he makes mistakes.

I don't think he's a TOP centre back but he's not as bad as portrayed by some of you.

11 Jul 2015 18:48:05
Nonsense, Red and Glory! Red, Skrtel has a tough job? Really? Doing what? Being a headless chicken and being bullied by each big striker he faces? Sickest joke on the planet, really. Skrtel is not covering for everybody and if you think so then I'm afraid that you have no idea what you are talking about. We can't even play the offside because he drops so deep. He communicates with no one hence no one knows what he wis or will do and can't stop grabbing jersies to save his life. Has no positional sense and awareness hence his headless chicken approach to defending and tackling. A good CB doesn't run around making tackles because due to positioning and awareness, he won't need to. Don't see Sahko, Ramos, Varane, Fonte, doing that, do you? Exactly! I have watched him closely and seen the exact faults the Ed has seen. His faults are there for all to see and well documented and the fact that you think we are copying and pasting Ed's comments just because we disagree with you, shows your disrespect and insulting attitude which shows your intellectual bankruptcy on this issue. Watch for yourself and you'll see what we are all seein.

10 Jul 2015 20:12:31
just a side note from the sterling saga ,

i think with the 2 signings of J.Milner and Firmino we can have a good run in the prem , if were to sign a decent striker who gets at least 15 goals a season then we would finish in the top 4 and depending how lucky we are then we could do it this season i know all fans will doubt me but there's something about the Milner signing that excites me and tell me something special is going to happen maybe its just that he will get the winners in important games or set up the winning goal but he is going to do something special and he will prove to be the signing of the season , the 2 players i mentioned shows we are headed in the right direction i just hope we keep up with these type of signings , its good to look forward with more hope than last season ,

i also think we should let lallana go , its like he does not fit into our team , at southampton he played very well because the team was built around him and they played the ball to him all the time just like at barca with messi , at liverpool lallana won't get the team built around him which means he won't be as good as he was at southampton , its just my 2 cents worth

10 Jul 2015 21:32:04
Twaddle. Lallana, like any other creative type, needs an outlet. We played most of the year without a striker.

And you're being harsh on Barcelona. There's more to them than Messi.

10 Jul 2015 21:52:01
What the hell are you on about. get rid of llalana? He's had 1 season where he had no pre season training through injury and unfortunately picked up a couple of knocks through the season also. The guy has qualities that most english players don't have. How about playing him in his preferred position and see how he goes. I guess you'd sooner keep markovic, lovren or moreno instead. of all the signings made last summer only lallana and can shone. jeez mate. Sick of you guys saying get rid of llalana just because we've bought firmino. have you seen firmino play even? He wasn't the most convincing in Copa and was is a poor league previously. Hope I'm wrong about firmino but to seriously think bout getting rid of llalana when we have the likes of Joe Allen in the team is bull's hit mate.

10 Jul 2015 22:08:39
Barca ain't a one man team anymore.I have to say the barca team is the best I've ever seen. Messi is the ultimate obviously but add suarez and neymar and it's mind blowing. They will rule Europe for years to come in my opinion

10 Jul 2015 22:08:44
Bundesliga is a better league than EPL "magico". Maybe not as entertaining as the EPL in that sense of the word best, but certainly the quality of football is much higher.

10 Jul 2015 22:22:00
So you are ready to trash a player after one injury plagued season? You've seen Firmino come in and suddenly Lallana is now on the chopping block, right?good thing you're not in charge of transfers. Had Hendo listened to people like you and BR who wanted him gone after one bad season, would he be captain material today? Mbrock, your post makes no sense. There are five players I can pick for us to get shot of but Lallana ain't going to be one of them.

11 Jul 2015 04:51:23
Firmino was bought to play the role that Lallana fails last season. Both the players were BR's pick and he has lost the trust on one. Lallana ll not getting much game next season with all 4, Sturridge, Benteke, countinho, Firmino on the pitch.

11 Jul 2015 09:54:03
Why can't Coutinho, Firmino & Lallana ALL play behind a striker?

11 Jul 2015 16:58:58
redohio , i thought about this all last season about lallana and i would rather have markovic over lallana it has nothing to do with firmino , someone said he needed an outlet , couthinho did not seem to find it difficult to find the same out let's , so are you saying the southampton team was not built around lallana , google it and you will find out that it got built around him from when he was in the youth team , and with messi at barca tell me the reason why suarez and neymar pass to messi when its easier for themselves to have a shot and score , i remember watching one game with barca and neymar was one on one with the keeper with his talent he could have scored but instead of having a shot he chose to pass it backwards to messi , listen i don't believe lallana is a bad player i was just saying that at southampton the team was built around him so it was easier for him at liverpool its not and it makes it harder for him to do what he did at southampton so redohio we all have the right to our opinion wheater i'm right or wrong only time will tell , but to slate me for my opinion is so igm=norant , I've never said your wrong but you seem to know it all so i bow down to your knowledge but make sure your right 1st before you way into someones opinion , i'm not the only one who thought hendo did not play well , but just for you when we lost him 2 seasons ago when we could have won the prem i think losing him was a major factor in us not winning the prem because we missed him badly but hey you know more than me so i'm most probly wrong in my opinion of that aswell , its fans like you who lie and say things just to go with the flow , i'm made up for hendo he has shown other players what to do in terms of getting on with his game and treaping the rewards for his hard work , and i don't think hendo would ever listen to me , i'm sure you have never thought he has played bad , or wanted him gone when he had a bad season , i will remember your reply and if i'm wrong about lallana i will drop you a post just to say you told me so and that you was right , i have no problem in holding my hand up to say if i was wrong not like you , you have never said you were wrong , because you know more than any other fan about liverpool fc and its players , if i turn out to be right though i bet you don't do the same because your never wrong

11 Jul 2015 23:32:54
Brock, I am flawed just like you are and have been wrong before and will be wrong again, just like you. I was wrong that BR was getting the sack, about Balo making it with us and God knows what else so I don't care if you say or don't say you're wrong because frankly, it does not matter. You may have an opinion and are free to air it however, IMO, your opinion makes no sense and the fact that you think Marko is better than Lallana like I said, makes no sense. Marko did nada to confirm that he's better than Lallana in terms of goals, assists and overall skill and ability. Lallana is better in all those aspects so again, your analysis is flawed. The fact that you are trying to tell me what I think or thought about Hendo shows how logically flawed your argument and thought process is. The truth is you can air your op, I am also free to say it makes no sense. You cannot pass judgement on a player after just one season. See the Hendo example to prove my point. When Hendo got here, it was clear he was overawed by the club and the pressure and even I felt he needed to up his game or be shipped out. He upped his game and is now as u say, reaping the rewards. Unlike you, I don't believe his suspension was the reason we lost the PL because a lot of things happened that caused that, IMO. All in all, we agree to disagree and that's fine.

{Ed007's Note - Aw ffs Red! You've just went right down in my estimation, don't ever admit to being wrong... EVER! I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.}

10 Jul 2015 19:23:47
I don't know if I'm a bit late to the party but for anybody who hasn't seen it, watch the animated video of Sterling calling in sick that's floating around, it's pretty funny.

10 Jul 2015 16:44:45
Any idea what will happenm with Ojo this season?

{Ed001's Note - Ojo is likely to go on loan.}

10 Jul 2015 17:53:07
Well done Jordan Henderson its great seeing a proper proffesional being rewarded.
Fantastic energy and commitment we could do with another 10 with the same drive and loyalty.
Any 1 know who the vice captain is?

10 Jul 2015 18:44:31
My mate who knows BR said vice captain will be sterling

10 Jul 2015 19:10:03
I suppose it could be a master stroke. Can't see BR having developed humility though.

10 Jul 2015 19:39:37
I guess BR will take credit for "developing" Hendo now forgetting that had he had his way, Hendo would be in the Championship with Fulham right now.

10 Jul 2015 21:14:12
@ redohio - No, it'd be much worse. He'd probably have left Fulham for Tottenham or Southampton, or maybe even a top 4 side by now and we'd be absolutely sickened that we let him go for £7m.

10 Jul 2015 22:24:33
Good point, something Red! Thank God, Hendo has a backbone unlike his manager who has none.

11 Jul 2015 01:17:53
To be fair to Rodgers, almost every one was slating hendo and were hoping for the Dempsey swap to go through at that time. Anyways what a great professional fully deserved

11 Jul 2015 05:00:35
Agree with Teddy

Dempsey scored close to 25 goals the season prior and this page was all happy to offload Hendo to get Dempsey.
When finally the player turned the corner the bash goes to Rodgers.
Hilarious

10 Jul 2015 17:12:44
Eds fellow reds , skerts sign new deal

10 Jul 2015 16:12:56
It looks like Sinclair is off or am I reading something nonsense?

10 Jul 2015 16:53:25
I think he is off to burnley (loan)

10 Jul 2015 18:00:46
Is it definitely a loan mate

10 Jul 2015 18:50:25
Must be a bit of a softener then concerning the Ings transfer.

10 Jul 2015 14:41:23
Hi eds great job as always. just a quick one what would be the overall hope for the forthcoming season? I just hope for a more unified club from top to bottom as a whole unlike last season. I'd love the fans to get fully behind the team no matter who the manager is. and I believe we are well capable of a top four place if we add another all out number 9 and studge stays fit for the rest of season.

{Ed002's Note - The owners want to win the League and challenge for the Champions League - obviously the second is out of the question but they have the expectation that the investment has been made and continues to be made that the first should be achievable.}

10 Jul 2015 15:46:30
Sorry for the confusion but I was hoping for the eds personal views on their hopes for the season.

{Ed023's Note - Firstly I hope we return to the high press football that served us so well in the title challenging season. A return to the top 4 would be great and progression from players such as Sinclair, Ibe, Ilori, Can. Sturridge to come back from injury and stay injury free. Firmino and Coutinho to do what we hope they can do.}

10 Jul 2015 16:17:23
@Ed023, I think we'd all be over the moon with that!

{Ed023's Note - I should of added a bit of silverware would be also be nice}

10 Jul 2015 18:18:06
I'd be happy if we just play our pressing game, make it enjoyable to watch. Just like you. Said 23
Anything else is a bonus
I'm well up for it! Come on the red men.

10 Jul 2015 18:24:48
Unite one eds. perhaps that silverware can be the premier league. ;)

{Ed001's Note - I really hope so.}

10 Jul 2015 19:48:17
One game at a time because people don`t expect that much from us right now so here`s to hoping we stun them like we almost did in 13/14

10 Jul 2015 20:50:42
Just getgeth damn top 4 and I'd be happy. We need the champions league money to keep in touch with the top 4

10 Jul 2015 15:25:28
Hello Eds and Reds.
Are u guys willing to give Balo a chance?

Ed001 do u think Balotelli has the ability to score20-30 goals a season?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - I will give him a chance, but he will not score many goals and should be got rid of asap.}

10 Jul 2015 16:00:26
It's funny, there'd be no bigger hero than Mario if he did. As Liverpool fans we love a good underdog story, who doesn't!

10 Jul 2015 15:50:04
He is a 10 to 15 goals per season all comps forward at best. his poor movement coupled with his complete disinterest to work hard will only ever limit him to this tally. should be moved on asap by the club in my view.

10 Jul 2015 16:37:21
Balotelli doesn't care and is not prepared to work hard, on or off the pitch, to help himself or his team. The lad has talent but it only takes you so far - look at the very best and see their work ethic and attitude - Balotelli is so far away from that that he is actually looking like a rubbish player. A man with his talents should be achieving so much more but you cannot save people from themselves - he needs selling now whilst we can still get a fee that isn't horrendous.

10 Jul 2015 17:00:39
For a guy with no interest didn't he get back training very quickly after his family bereavement! Most people on here would take a lot more time out if they had to deal with the same horrible situation.
Maybe get off the guys back for a little and let's see how it pans out.

10 Jul 2015 23:11:59
Don't mean to be funny, but that's a generalisation Mcgoveb and quite frankly 1 I think is wrong. A lot of people I know who have had a family member pass on want noting more than to get back into their daily routine.

11 Jul 2015 09:53:12
Bob, you're allowed your opinion, most I know find it very hard to get back to work and I include myself in that.

10 Jul 2015 14:43:28
Sterling approaches GOT Ramsey Bolton to walk around with him so he is not the unpopular one

10 Jul 2015 15:34:18
Hopefully if Ramsey got hold of him he'd flay him!

10 Jul 2015 14:29:04
Waro if he's not breaching his contract or breaking the law then frankly what he does is none of our business. If the club have lenient contracts and poorly enforced codes of conduct that is their fault .

10 Jul 2015 14:58:55
Excuses excuses always excuses, I would love football world wide to implode, sick of vacuous footballers and gullible fans making excuses for them.

By the way AG in case you didn't go back to my post on the rumors page, yes mate, that's exactly who it was.

10 Jul 2015 16:21:02
@ForzaRed, try keep it in the same thread man. I know what you're on about but easier for others if you keep it in the same thread.

I'm with Waro on this one. I just think if he goes down that route then he will just waste some of his potential.

10 Jul 2015 16:40:52
Agree 100% with Waro - these players have been gifted an opportunity most fans would die for - going out getting pished up is throwing it in the fans face. Professional athletes, bar a glass of wine with a meal, should not be drinking period. Cannot believe fans are excusing it.

10 Jul 2015 18:23:34
Milner is a great example, trains hard doesn't drink a drop. A true pro glad to be where he is in his career and with this attitude will probably play at the top for a good few more seasons. I bet my boss wished I followed Milners attitude to work lol!! 😊

10 Jul 2015 18:25:34
Couldn't agree more with you on this one Waro.

{Ed001's Note - me too. It was different in the past, now players know better, they know it makes a major difference to their game, so there is no longer an excuse. You only have to look at the difference with Arsenal when Wenger arrived, the main change he made was getting the players to look after themselves better.}

10 Jul 2015 12:07:18
Obvious cut and paste here but one for the Benteke bashers (I'm undecided but will support whoever we go for) - interesting to see what real experts who all love the club think:

John Barnes

"He would cause people a lot of problems. With Benteke, you need to be a little bit more direct. Would that be a bad thing? Not necessarily, balance is important. At times. Liverpool overplayed which really came off two years ago but didn’t last season".

Robbie Fowler

"I’d go for Benteke. I think he’s excellent. In terms of all-round play - strength, speed, physicality, finishing - I think Benteke could be the main man for Liverpool.”

John Aldridge

"Liverpool should pay whatever it takes to lure Benteke to Anfield. He is a proven performer and a real handful leading the line. He might not be a typical Rodgers type of player, but I think he would be great for Liverpool"

Ray Houghton

"Benteke’s a huge player, and he’ll fit into the style of play Liverpool. He’s big, he’s physical, and he can upset defenders. He has genuine pace, and he can score goals".

Stan Collymore

“Benteke can become a great European central striker, he’s a potential European superstar. Over the next four of five years Villa need to build a team around him.”

Jamie Carragher

“He [Benteke] has been a brilliant player for Villa but they’ve always been fighting relegation when he’s been there and he’s always been the one who’s dragged them out".

Brendan Rodgers

"[Christian] Benteke is one of the very top players at this level. He makes great runs and scores goals, and he caused us lots of problems."

Steve Nicol

"I'm positive about Benteke. I wouldn’t like to play against him. The guy is a beast [and] he doesn't get the credit he deserves for the talent he has with his feet. I'd be happy for Benteke to be at Liverpool next season."

10 Jul 2015 12:39:56
There's no denying the lad has ability. The question is, will he fit into our style or become another Carroll, Balotelli, Lambert?

Red Rum

10 Jul 2015 12:46:08
What a ridiculous post Dcal. Everybody knows that internet hate crusaders are far more knowledgeable than ex-pro's and managers ;)

In all seriousness though, great post mate. Fully agree with regards to his ability. Still got reservations about his attitude but people forget he's only young.

10 Jul 2015 16:43:37
And how many of those quoted are known and respected coaches and managers? Rodgers (who is bound to give him a glowing review as he wants him signed) and Nicol. Sorry but being an ex-player means nothing - there opinion doesn't carry any more weight than anyone else's.

10 Jul 2015 17:52:00
Wish people would stop talking about our style of play and he doesn't fit etc etc. Do we really have a style of play under the current manager? At least he will be played up top to get on the end of mignolet hoofs lol. So at times that was our style of play last year anyway.

10 Jul 2015 18:34:02
Just because he is an ex player doesn't mean he knows what's best for the club, especially as he was Al terrible manager.

10 Jul 2015 18:35:54
Yeah perhaps his signing shows that we are changing the style of play. Obviously their opinion is noteworthy but how sure are we that they are giving their genuine opinion.

10 Jul 2015 20:00:57
His ability is not in doubt. it`s all the other dumb stuff that he needs to improve upon if he wants to hack it at a big club. say what you want about Suarez BUT one cannot deny his desire and will to be better and do better on the pitch. Benteke needs that type of fire in his belly to hack it here because if not, it`ll b Andy Carroll fiasco

10 Jul 2015 10:03:51
Ed002, it's not Sturridge who might be a surprise exit is it?

His recent comments on social media are weird:

"Show me love and I am loyal"

Are there any interested clubs?

{Ed002's Note - Sturridge is out injured for a few more months - nobody will be interested in him.}

10 Jul 2015 12:44:58
Sounds like a dig at Sterling if I'm honest lol

10 Jul 2015 12:30:27
Give us a hint ;)

{Ed023's Note - He plays with Homer Simpson underwear and drinks green tea by the gallon}

10 Jul 2015 12:47:29
Think it was with respect to Raheem.

10 Jul 2015 13:13:05
Certianly Ed023 is the yougest of all the Eds :)

{Ed001's Note - not even close, Ed023 is Ed003's grandad.}

10 Jul 2015 12:42:55
Cheers Ed! Not even Rafa? ;) we know how much he loves signing injured players!

10 Jul 2015 13:56:34
Isn't Ed003 using light years to count his age now? I heard Dog Years got too much.

10 Jul 2015 14:07:49
One of lallana lovren Markovic for me.
However got this terrible feeling it might end up being Coutinho or Sakho

10 Jul 2015 14:27:20
Relax. We will not be selling Coutinho. Markovic maybe. He's been the only one seriously linked with an exit.

10 Jul 2015 11:26:10
Has anyone got info on the vice captain??

{Ed023's Note - I will take a guess that Skrtel will get because I don't want him to get it}

10 Jul 2015 11:41:21
Haha, good one ed. Unfortunately I think u going to be right. I would like us to go for sakho. By the looks of of it has some good banter & looks like a popular lad in the camp. Plus(most importantly) think he looks like a leader.

{Ed023's Note - I'd prefer it to be Sakho too}

10 Jul 2015 10:34:29
Seems the Liverpool posse are out for a Lallana lynching today while our manager waits on his horse with a noose around his neck. I'm not sure if Raheem S is dangling on the end of the rope but he can't be far off after yesterday's posts. Can't wait to see who will be joining this motley crew for the lynching ritual at Knotty Ash but the sun's out so should be a good day out

10 Jul 2015 10:05:36
Congrats to Hendo

10 Jul 2015 09:26:18
Im really over this sterling business we lost Steven gerrard and that for me is the biggest thing irregardless of his stats last season he was amazing in my eyes, Suarez too amazing, and those 2 losses were major, by no means am I saying raheem isn't a loss because he is he will only get better but unfortunately he doesn't want to stay and I'd just like it sorted so we can finally have no distractions, no Suarez questions no win it for gerrard, or where to fit him in the team rubbish the last great media Liverpool legend is gone and this is a brand coaches and ideas , a new chapter, time for new heroes and new future legends, the fact that if Brendan doesn't perform he will be gone also adds a sweetness too it, so I'm Looking forward to pre season next week with players that want to play for us. Maybe well be dark horses again.

10 Jul 2015 09:33:16
Bravo sterling, well said. If only your namesake possessed such mild-mannered eloquence and decency. ;)

10 Jul 2015 09:46:01
I know lads I'm going to have re-sign up as a legend or a reliable Liverpool players maybe souness, studge the sterling name was a poor choice but at the time I thought young English player and he would stay for a while I was so wrong

10 Jul 2015 09:11:18
here people complaining about the lallana signing how we don't need him.lallana was among the best players the season before.the guy didn't even have a proper pre season,and when fit showed periods of what he can do.not all players shine in there first season.you say the price,what price?the 20+is about right compared to the fee paid for the likes of torres,di maria,mangala,willian.give him another season and he'll suprise many

10 Jul 2015 09:20:23
He's a quality player. No doubt about it.

10 Jul 2015 09:23:12
You should smell done reality. The clubs you mentioned Chelsea, UTD all have wast revenue compared to us operating on loss every year.
They sell a layers on profit while we sell on loss.
They could afford to pick the player they want while we need to save each and every penny we got.
They could afford transfer flops while we simply cannot.

Man UTD dominated English football for 20 years which means they were on top of the game from two decades.

The money they have, they could afford flops.

10 Jul 2015 09:41:15
I see Harry's back with a bang lol

10 Jul 2015 11:00:04
What is the disagreement ratio for European Glories posts I wonder?

10 Jul 2015 08:50:02
Loan update,

Danny Ward last night helped Aberdeen into the second round of the europa league keeping a clean sheet to send them through on away goals.
This included a fine save late on.

Ward also started the first game so I believe he is their number one.

Good to see a positive start

10 Jul 2015 09:24:53
Glad he's started well I was one saying we should have kept ward as back-up to mignolet instead of getting bogdan, but I suppose it makes more sense ward getting out and playing 1st team football

10 Jul 2015 11:41:45
I hope the club aggressively progress him, championship next year, prem year after.
Then fingers crossed he passes the test he should be ready to fight for our number one jersey

10 Jul 2015 06:13:34
Looking at the signings made by the Sevilla and their consistent sucess on field,it makes me question why FSG
didn't change the scouting committee,if they want to implement their philosophy?

Also I don't know who convinced transfer committee to buy Lallana?

Lallana looked great in MOTD and highlights ,but he couldn't finish some 17 games last season,also he slows down the attack by taking too many touches and doing unnecessary skills.Fans like me might note know much due to lack of knowledge and resources and naively celebrate such signings.

But what happened to the transfer committee who decided to splash 23 mil on Lallana?

10 Jul 2015 06:47:05
It was too much but most we sign cost over the top. But he's a good player. Let's hope he gets a run of games to show it.

10 Jul 2015 07:03:39
None on the page had a problem when Lallana was bought. It was never needed and only ed01 was against the signing.
And he was bang on.

10 Jul 2015 07:36:05
we weren't ever going to replace suarez by lallana , so it was a waste/luxury signing then and it will always be. lallana won't score more than 10goals any season , no matter how good a player he is , he wasnt what was required then, he isn't what is required now. with coutinho and firmmino in the team i don't know how will lallana ever break into the team.
i wouldn't be half surprised if lallana is sold and is the unexpected player Ed002 was mentioning. i just hope if he is sold we recoup atleast 60-70 percent of what we paid for him.

10 Jul 2015 08:08:23
We would then have to incurr massive loss on Lallana. I can't see any club offering half the price we paid for the player. He would be a bigger flop than Ballo.

10 Jul 2015 08:24:25
Your all blind and not one of you knows what your on about. Lallana is a decent player, he's neat and tidy with the ball. Rarely loses it and has a really good touch and eye for a pass. He is creative in and around the box. Every English team going for an English player will pay over the odds, because we all know teams need their English quota.
Give Lallana time to adjust, he's gone from a club where he was a cult legend and their captain to one were he's not even guaranteed to start. Massive change in club stature and expectation. I for one think he's going to do well for us.
Plus, unlike some of the other Prem teams, we have English players that will actually start, instead of sitting on the bench just to be a part of the quota.

10 Jul 2015 08:40:13
Y would lallana need time to adjust unlike others? Did tadic and Pelle made up at Southampton. I am norry mate, Lallana wouldn't get a start ahead of Firmino and Countinho next season.

10 Jul 2015 09:44:32
I can't believe people are slating lallana on this. He is a very good player but just had a bad season of injuries. One thing he is a team player and the way he talks about our club, he would do anything for us. i'm sure if he works on keeping fit he will be a top player for us. Sick of some of the fans on this, would slate anyone, never happy with anything. Whos next to slate???

10 Jul 2015 10:34:13
Fair play Fats and Andy, Lallana might have to really fight for his place this season but i think he's well up to that. After Hendo and Couts last season it wasn't easy picking out many decent performers, except Lallana and Lucas and they were injured for a good part or the time.

10 Jul 2015 14:00:47
It's going to be interesting to see if he has the mental toughness to fight it out with the other (more likely) starters. He was very good at Southampton (as was Lovern) but, to me, he struggled to deal with the weight of expectation on his shoulders.

He is a tidy player but slows the attack up way to much but this could be down to the managers instructions.

Again, to me, he looked to have had the confidence completely sucked out of him last season. Hopefully he's got it back with a year under his belt.

10 Jul 2015 03:03:07
Can we just sign Lacazette already?! solves all our goal scoring problems and hasn't even hit his prime yet. Aka great resale value. Also let's sign another left-back (Digne), centre-back (Umtiti), holding midfieler (Sergio Oliveira), left attacking midfielder/winger (either Yarmolenko or Cavaleiro) and striker (Lacazette). Brilliant summer/winter transfer season, along with the sale of Allen, Leiva, Sterling, Lambert, Borini.

10 Jul 2015 06:53:24
And while we're at it and the money tree is still growing in the Melwood garden let's get Veratti Pogba Ter Stegen and Griezman and we might just make top 4

10 Jul 2015 07:06:46
We missed the trick in not buying Lacazzate when he was available for half the price and us inside the CL.
We did two mega blunders last season over the top of many other.

Lallana over Firmino

Ballo over Lacazzate.

10 Jul 2015 09:13:33
He hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet and already you want him to replace lallana. Most on here had never heard of him until he signed for us. I personally think he is a good player but we were never interested in him before we signed lallana as far as I am aware, I'll stand corrected if I am wrong

10 Jul 2015 09:29:19
Red

Sorry mate but we discussed about Roberto Firmino last season. Like other Brazilian he is a naturally gifted player with flair and skills. We have been looking at the player from years.
And with the signing BR has given a strong indication of what he prefers over Lallana. The reason we bought him was due to the failure of Lallana on the exact same position.

10 Jul 2015 12:16:40
Red 64, if he did not want Balo, why didn't he stop the deal like he stopped the Remy deal, a player he also did not want?

10 Jul 2015 01:33:01
Hi all,

Just seen the first training session pics and that buzz of a new season and that anything is possible is upon me : )

I am 100% behind Liverpool, players and management. We win together - we lose together.

I believe that we can have a good season and that Brendan Rodgers and team can deliver a successful season.

We are Liverpool !!! So let's start showing it.

C'MON you red men !!!

Pot

10 Jul 2015 06:58:08
Wish Rodgers had the same mindset. If we win, it will be all him. If we lose, it will be someone else's fault.

10 Jul 2015 07:57:57
Sorry potclay- as much as I want br to be a success at lfc for the clubs sake, I no longer think it will happen.
At this point in his career he just has too many flaws to be a CL level manager.
We won't get higher than 5th or 6th while he is manager.
I believe he has to go before we have any chance of making CL again.
We will make the usual slow start, get battered away from home a few times, and he'll be gone by xmas anyway.
You always have hope we can do well, as I hoped last January that we could get back into the top four. But looking at it more logically, for me next season is already a write off if br starts it as manager.

10 Jul 2015 08:30:00
With the squad we have and another two coming in, we are right up there to challenge the title.
We have some individual brilliance in our squad. they going to bail out BR.

10 Jul 2015 09:10:29
Liverpres you like many others are a hypocrit.
Your mentality is : if we win and finish 2nd it's Suarez or Bielsas success, if we finish 7th its Brendan's fault.

10 Jul 2015 11:12:44
Mate Rodgers was praised when we finished 2nd and he showed humility to learn things and implement it in 2013-14.In 2014-15 when we were struggling initially not many criticised him infact many of them felt the reason being loss of suarez.But once he started playing players out of position, was being arrogant to change his tactics,then people started losing faith in him.
Other thing is we had players with winning mentality on pitch in 2013-14 season.But when we loss such players it is the role of manager to instill such mentality in players examples being Sevilla,Atletico Madrid.

10 Jul 2015 12:08:57
The fact is FSG have decided Rodgers will get another season, and we'll do nothing but exacerbate the issue by writing him and the team off before they've kicked a ball.

10 Jul 2015 00:09:45
Apparently we will replace sterling with Reus! This will be our tenth Reus signing! Incredible scenes!

09 Jul 2015 22:09:35
Hi Eds,

Depending on the start we have in the new season coming up, is Klopp still an option if Rodgers is made available to the industry?
Tough question, but is he still considered if things go south?

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - Klopp?}