Liverpool Banter Archive July 10 2014

 

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10 Jul 2014 23:18:03
I hate this kind of post: "We need proven quality; sign Hummells and Benzema". I know the perfect club for your type: Real Madrid.

We welcome the rejects here at Liverpool and have everybody drooling over them when no one else would give them a chance. Lovren and Sakho sounds like one hardcore CB pairing to me and i'm excited.

Markovic is considered one of the very top prospects in Europe. Imagine the pace with him and Sterling on the wings. Frothing!

Winfried Bony is a giant of a man and a great finisher. Remember how teams like Chelsea and Stoke would bully our forwards? We tried to be creative and dribble through them over and over but we would just get pushed off the ball. Now stick a beast like Bony between their center backs and completely unsettle them. Then the space is there for other players.

It's a great thing not to immediately know what our best eleven is. Now we can have real competition for players and not send jaded players onto the pitch.

On a sad note I am really going to miss Suarez on the pitch. But the relationship is over, so farewell to him(We don't need that joker anyway)

Chin up lads, ynwa.

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Great post!

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This guy gets it.

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11 Jul 2014 04:58:55
Really good post, if that hasn't lifted everyones spirits I don't know what will. YNWA!

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11 Jul 2014 05:00:50
Bony is about just as tall as Flanagan. He is not a giant of a man.

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For the sake of balance, Bony is actually 1cm taller but 7 kgs heavier than Flanagan. I think the OP is referring to his presence and strength rather than just size in the beast reference. let's see how many CBs feel 'beasted' by him next season.

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Great Post

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Great post. And a predictably pedantic response from AG just to balance things out!

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Sahko was captain of PSG, think he was their youngest ever captain. Has played through the French international teams from U15 to full. An International side which just before his inclusion won both World and European cups.
He cost £20m
He is top draw. So yeah he will be part or a hard core defence and it's exciting to have him. no different to the level of player some are asking for.

Don't forget we will be playing a higher level of football, CL and we want to stay there.
When players like Fabregras, Sanchez, Costa, Herrera etc are signing for our title rivals and we seem to have cash why shouldn't we want the best available?
I think Markovic is in that category. There is nothing wrong in wanting Shaqiri, if he is available for £15m or spending extra £2m to secure Moreno rather than buying Bertrand

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{Ed002's Note - It would be closer to an extra £12M for Moreno, not £2M.}

Jaysus that's quite the interesting response there if we agreed the fee of around 18 mill

Piecing together you or ed001 said they didn't want all the money up front and now this we must have offered some crazy add on package to like a 4 mill fee! I still just don't get if he was number one left back target why we don't go back for him

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10 Jul 2014 22:46:15
I don't know about you guys, but I'm having a real headache on the bog about choosing a starting 11 for next season. It's a dilemma trying to play everyone. The biggest headache of all is playing Henderson, Gerrard, Coutinho, Lallana and Sterling in the same team! With the potential signing of Markovic and Bony (maybe), it'll be a struggle to play them all in the same 11! I so badly want to see them in the same team, but I know it won't work!
The only way I see it is that we'll have 2 teams, roughly, all being able to play in the starting 11. If we have a squad where 18/19 players are starting 11 quality then we're going to have an exciting season ahead! Still, I'll support the boys however they do, wherever they finish and whatever they win, hopefully!

Ps, Raheem is going to be a world beater one day.

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Just as you've said

Hendo Gerrard

Lallana Coutinho Sterling

Sturridge

2-3-1 with the 3 able to move around and play anywhere across that

Bony if signed or Borini will be cover. Markovic is 20 and untried in England so I expect him to be introduced gradually. Sub, 'smaller' sides, injury cover. Both Coutinho and Lallana rarely complete 90minutes.

But it's what the top teams have, 2 quality players for each position

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10 Jul 2014 23:33:21
Good post. I agree completely.

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Id be looking the same as 'Crunch' for the starting eleven,

Subs for impact would then easily be:

Bony
Lambert
Borini
Markovic
IBE - Really want to see him more often this season as I think he will be another sterling success story

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And Can will play a lot too. In place of Gerrard who'll play less and alongside Hendo in a dynamic high pressing but creative midfield two ahead of Gerrard.

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10 Jul 2014 22:28:03
Last season we amassed 84 points with LS in the side. If you took away the goals he scored in the league we would have still ended up on 68 points and this does not take into account any other player that would have replaced him. IMO with someone else in the side the worst case scenario would be that we would have regained half those points, which would of seen us finish 4th! I know that it's not an exact science and he created opportunities for other goals but who's to say some of the new attacking signings can't create and score more goals! Always look for the positives. Positive people have more luck than negative people. That's a fact!
1st time poster and a great job the eds do putting up with the repeat questions and the repeat moaners!

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Plus next season out defence should be a lot better.

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Lambert, Lallana and Can, unless Can is some sort of Masch how is our defence better, we haven't signed a defender yet

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Our defence would improve even if we kept it the same. It'd be one more year of Chemistry, Skrtel would hopefully try and iron out his mistakes, Johnson would need to play for a new contract, Sakho would be a year older with world cup (captaining) experience and Flanno would again be a year older with more firat team experience. Plus Gerrard would be a little more ready for his new holding role and Mingolet wouldn't be as nervous as he'd be more settled. I'd love Lovren and and left back, but if we don't sign a single defender, I won't lose sleep over it and neither should you plus we have Ilori, Kelly, Wisdom and Smith who will all be knocking on the door next year and may prove to be a revelation in one of their cases.

Why so negative?

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Sanchez didn't want to join us, don't get me wrong I would have loved it if we siged him but if he's so keen to live in London then stuff him

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EMS is right. Play last years team for 10 successive years in the PL and they'd never concede 51 goals again. We had so many injuries in the back 4 coupled with new players trying to bed in that we never got into a proper rhythm. But look at the "big games" when concentration levels were highest. Big wins against Spurs (twice), Manchester United (twice), Southampton away, Everton home and Arsenal at home. Only goal conceded in all of those games was a pen when we were 4 or 5-nil up.

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Don't forget we have Ilori coming back after a good loan. Read somewhere he was great marking out Messi in a league game. That says something
Smith at left back looked great in preseason and Wisdom played well in a team pushing for promotion
Also Kelly could figure more, didn't BR mention that in an interview?
Wisdom. Kelly. Ilori. Smith a complete back four into the squad, pushing to start and keeping the current four on their toes

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I think 2, possibly 3, of those defenders will be loaned out Crunch. Ilori isn't ready, neither is Smith. And if Jonno stays (as looks likely) we won't have 4 RBs in the squad. I'd expect Wisdom to get a PL loan and then replace Jonno (in numbers terms) next season. BR could decide to loan Kelly though instead of Andre. If Kelly doesn't get regular games this season his career will be fizzling out. He's too good to be training and missing out on the match day 18. Shame, really like the lad.

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10 Jul 2014 22:26:38
Why is it that now we have got in the CL we are still not going for top players. We have lost out to Tottenham over the last few years (Dempsey, erikson etc) and now arsenal with Sanchez. We should be signing top players especially if Suarez is going. We should use that money for a big name. Manducic just went for 17m. All this gambling 20m on unproven players could come back to bite us like Tottenham signing crap when bale went.

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10 Jul 2014 22:45:01
So go and support Tottenham. Stop bitching and whining because no one cares. Support the club.

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Firstly mandzukic is average at best. Secondly we did go for Sanchez bit he chose arsenal. How can you blame the club for a player not wanting to come?

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10 Jul 2014 23:15:54
Can you believe Lfcannoyedfan?? Starts the post by implying we should be using the spuds as some sort of role model and missing out on their signings and then completes the post by saying the spuds are crap??

Damned if you do and damned if you dont!

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I bet you would have been happy with those Tottenham signings at the time.

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10 Jul 2014 23:35:29
I'm confused at why people say "doing a Tottenham". We are not Tottenham for one thing. And two, Tottenham lost 3 points from their previous season after selling bale. If we just lost 3 points next season from last seasons total, i'd be pretty content.

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Look where tottenham are because of this. they basically took a bunch of players without taking into account team cohesion. We are looking for Technical players that are suited to the way we player i.e. Coutinho, Sturridge. without them do you think we would have CL football? answer is no. we were struggling until we signed those players even with Suarez.

point is we cannot go after every big name player that is out there especially not the ones that clubs with deeper pockets are after as we will lose and the fans will get upset i.e willian, costa, mkhitaryan, sanchez. But I do agree we need one big player that when he plays it feels like the whole team has been given a boost because that is exactly what suarez did when he returned from his ban.

personally the perfect player Liverpool should target right now is Balotelli. He is being treated like damaged goods by many big clubs for overlooking him. the fact is he is a tremendous talent, he's young and at the same time one of the best in the world. for me there is no risk in signing him, he is a big match player and deadly for average teams. he would help restore fear factor in the opposition which we have lost through suarez's exit. yes we have sterling, coutinho, lallana hopefully markovic but we don't have someone on par with sturridge upfront and I hope BR see's it like I do, either way i'm 100% behind the project. many teams will write us off this season just hope we don't write ourselves off, we will have the world in awe once again.

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Your sign off alone shows you just plan on moaning about anything.

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10 Jul 2014 22:07:41
Hi to all the Eds and fellow REDS

Sad yet relieved to see Suarez leave. this was always bound to happen. Good signings so far, Can will be a great buy also Lallana and Lambert. Bony, if done, will be a revelation. He just needs to be in a better (with respect) team to really shine. Always liked him, always scared me (no puns, please lads).
Shame about Sanchez, hope Origi signs and most of all hope Lucas does NOT leave, he is class. Can't believe how fickle some our fans have become.
Good season ahead.
YNWA

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10 Jul 2014 23:39:12
I really hope neither Agger nor Lucas leave. It will be a terrible decision for LFC intitutionallity. How can we expect the best players don't leave if we (supporters and club) make a great effort to offload the best players we have had in the club's worst seasons? Them both have been great this 4-5 yrs and have proven enough quality to play at this moment, such as skrtl does. Even if BR wants them out, I expect at least that fans give them support.

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We can support the club AND value Agger & Lucas AND still think it's the right thing for them to move on. The teams I grew up with always tapped a couple of great servants on the shoulder every summer. Football is brutal. We can't afford to carry big earners who are no longer first regulars - especially if the manager doesn't think their style suits the way he wants to play. Anyone watching Lucas last season could see he was struggling to play with the intensity required in the CM role. Agger has been in decline for years and simply isn't a great defender or leader. Interesting that there's no stampede of clubs desperate to sign either player.

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10 Jul 2014 22:02:59
Eds fellow reds, arsenal get Sanchez, we sell Suarez .does BR and fsg think English teams have gained an extra champs league place this season .Not lost one .going to be a long long season .

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10 Jul 2014 22:13:48
Kid we have no choice but to sell Suarez. You have seen his behaviour haven't you? Sanchez wanted to play in London no big deal and let's move on.

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Good shout mate let's move on no one is bigger than the club.

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Agreed Mighty.

Until we are competing in the Champs League year in year out we are not going to be as bigger draw for some players.

Lets hope we continue as we left off (minus the Chelsea and C Palace results ;o) ).

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Sanchez is a great player and yes I'd have loved us to sign him. But the more I read he didn't want to move here or it was his wife that didn't, but we were still trying. alarm bells were ringing for me. Just pictured another Suarez, looking to move to Madrid or would go to Chelsea after a great season with us cause he could settle or his wife was still in Spain etc.

Be much happier to a. Sign a player with Lamberts enthusiasm for LFC (probably impossible)
Or b. Sign a European player who is fully aware of living conditions etc this part of Europe. French, Swiss, Belgium, German etc.

No offence. There have been plenty S.American players hassle free. But after Suarez last couple of years, think Marcherano turned a little, Tevez that time. A few can just go AWOL after playing international, seems that doesn't happen closer to home

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10 Jul 2014 21:32:45
Hi Eds, Just a quicky.
Are we really interested in Bony?I sincerely hope not.With Suarez departure imenent, surely we have to be looking for better than that.We need top top class to at least TRY and replace him.Also do you know of any interest in any experienced players, with the champions league coming up.Bar silly silly rumours of crap strikers, we only seem interested in young players.We can't be going there with the young squad we have, just adding more youth expecting anything from it.Also securing top 4 is a must .We need strength in depth but also players who have been there n done it.
Thanks JM

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Do you have a single good reason why Bony is not an acceptable transfer? I'm just asking because I don't have one.

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Just out of curiosity who would be on your list of names who would be top drawer and could replace Suarez?

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Antoine Greizmann - he can play on either wing or as a CF. He scores plenty of goals and in my opinion is at the same level as the infamous nibbler (or better) when he came to LFC from Ajax.

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I can't really say. i'm not an expert .But surely somebody in the same mould is what's needed.Suarez is one of the best players in the world.Sanchez would of been great but clearly don't wanna come . How do you get from him to bony or huntelaar? completley different players.

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I'm sorry but i'd rather have Bony then Benzema and Higuain who are so called 'world class'. Bony has proven he is a top goal scorer and offers us a better option. It's not like we can replace Suarez so why not replace him with a different type of player?
YNWA

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Thomas Müller would be a great replacement. Heres dreaming!

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10 Jul 2014 23:08:29
Didn't Bony score 31 goals in 30 games in the season before last?, didn't he score 16 in his first season in a poor Swansea side in his first season in the toughest league in the world? He also scored 2 of his teams 4 goals in the World Cup. Ok he may not have the flair & genius that Suarez has or the likes of Sanchez, but neither did Rush or Fowler, or the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Wright, Van Nistelrooy but they all knew how to bury the ball in the net, look at City's strikers, apart from the ever injured Augero the likes of Dzeko & Negrado are not Suarez type players but they can finish, they fit into an attacking City squad that's scores & creates plenty, Bony can fit in here & I can see him getting plenty of goals, as will Lambett they will thrive on the service our players provide & with there strength probably hold the ball up better than Suarez & not be banned for half a season, I for one will back Bony if we do sign him, less of this crucifying players before they've graced the pitch.

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Well we've signed or are going to sign markovic. and him bony and lalanna offer more options than just Suarez and these options are interchangeable depending on the opposition therefore you could easily argue the team would be stronger.

I too would have loved Sanchez but there isn't exactly a raft of players of that quality that we have a chance in signing so I for one would be delighted with these signings!

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Bony would be better than Benzema and Higuain I completely agree but only because of their price, i'd say in all honesty they are probably better players. I'm on Nickofella's wavelength of a wide attacker like Griezmann being more suited to the way we played so effectively last season than a big centre forward. Despite Bony being a top player i'd rather we left Sturridge upfront on his own and used Lambert & Borini as back ups with Griezmann, Markovic, Sterling & Ibe as our wing options and also Coutinho and Lallana if necessary.

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Personally I like our youth playing - Sterling/coutinho/sturridge etc _ No offence to Luis and I love the guy but they were the ones who stepped up to the plate in big games and made that difference as they have no fear of playing these big games - Everyone now hails Raheem Sterling / Coutinho etc I just want to see Jordan Ibe brought into the frame this season - Him with sterling is frightening and personally when watching them both in the reserves I rated Ibe higher than Sterling - So if we can now break him in to do what Sterling has achieved it will be brilliant for us

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10 Jul 2014 21:14:42
Hi Eds ESPN saying we are going to try and revive the Moreno deal, any truth in this? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

10 Jul 2014 22:23:50
Apparently LFC still think a deal can be revived with Aspas going the other way for approx £5m. If not Bertrand is still the next option.

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10 Jul 2014 20:57:44
Hey eds! Not directly Pool related, but which are Barcelona's CB targets shaping up to be? I am eagerly awaiting Lovren's arrival, could Barca join in the hunt now that Suarez is near completion? Or are they turning towards Vertongen?
Also, have Spurs abandoned their interest in Alberto Moreno?

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{Ed002's Note - Try the Barcelona and Spurs pages.}

10 Jul 2014 20:33:13
Eds and reds,
So Liverpool are looking for a left back, centre back, attacking midfielder and striker.
Now that it is pretty much confirmed Liverpool will sell Luis Suarez does that mean we will try to buy a top talent to replace him or just look for better, and therefore more expensive, players to improve the squad?

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10 Jul 2014 21:22:03
I believe you're correct there, looking like:
- Lovren
- Moreno/Bertrand/Davies
- Markovic
- Bony
- (Origi would be an extra being loaned to Lille)

Out of the names being tipped to leave Anfield this summer its only Lucas that would leave us short (Of a DM). He might have to be replaced but not sure who with. don't see Can as a replacement for Lucas but an extra Midfielder to be sub for Henderson. Turning out to be an exciting transfer window and should be a really good season. Brendan knows exactly what he's doing. YNWA!

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10 Jul 2014 20:32:31
Don't know what you all think but I have a feeling that Origi will opt for somewhere other than Liverpool. He apparently has a number of options to choose from and would he want guarantees as to appearances? Some of these young players want everything before they are the finished article and I hope that his player isn't one of them. If he is prepared to work with our coaches and work hard then he would possibly choose us. We are a young team with a lot of young improving players which I hope his advisors take into consideration before making a decision. Just my thoughts, if he does come then I welcome him, if not then good luck.

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The fact that we would send him back to Lille on loan should discard the appearance issue and if he has a great season it's up to him to make it so that he can't not walk into the side

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I think he cares more about football in the long term as opposed to next season. He knows he's sought after right now, but that he's not quite ready for guaranteed 1st team football at a CL club. He'll do what suits his growth, rather than his pockets or his ego. Honestly, there's no better opportunity for him to come in and challenge for a spot at a top club THAN Liverpool in the wake of Suarez's departure.

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If he goes back to Lille - then no issue.

If he stays then I think he will get his fair share of game time; possibly a lot coming off the bench but still game time.

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10 Jul 2014 19:37:15
Hello Eds, do you know of any new contracts to be handed out among the current Liverpool players? I remember reading a while ago that Daniel Sturridge was possibly getting a new deal and Henderson was mentioned a few times too.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head, Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson and Flanno were set to get new ones. There are some others amongst the younger members that will get new ones too, ones who are about to run out of contract. Though most are being told to go out and earn one, with the 4 I mentioned being held up as examples, hence why they are set to get new ones. It is to reward them for playing well, but also to act as an encouragement to others to push into the team.}

I dunno iff this will help, but it was posted a few days ago on LFC website

''Goalkeeper Lawrence Vigouroux and defender Kevin Stewart have signed after leaving Tottenham Hotspur.

The pair join playmaker Sergi Canos, defensive midfielder Pedro Chirivella and Wales winger Harry Wilson in penning deals.

Academy duo Jordan Williams and Sheyi Ojo, meanwhile, are signing their new contracts today.''

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Gerrard as well.

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That's great news Ed001, thanks.

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And also to you bobatron ^_^

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Great. Recall Chirivella and Canos being quite sort after

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10 Jul 2014 20:01:22
Now Barcelona have received the Sanchez money, do we expect the Suarez deal to go through shortly?

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Oh dear we have someone who thinks arsenal sent £35m to them & it's sat in their account oh dear

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10 Jul 2014 22:03:15
The completed transfer will be announced by Monday at the latest. Could possibly be tomorrow afternoon if payment terms have been agreed. Roll on as it will finally convince everyone that he has gone and we can move on.

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10 Jul 2014 19:56:54
If the bony rumours have substance, I must say I am very much on the fence! His goals coring record is very good though, so hopefully with service he can deliver if signed!

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Actually his record is almost 1 goal every 2 games, so with better service that would get better, plus his first year in English football is impressive, scored against the big sides and created 6. So overall that ain't bad.

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I said it was good?

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10 Jul 2014 19:40:27
Eds do you know if markovic had his medical today? If not do you know when it will be?
Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - A little something had to be dealt with before the medical could go ahead - it will be cleared up tomorrow so he will have his medical after that sometime - maybe even tomorrow.}

I hope the cream does the job!

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Not ban other frank worthington situation I hope

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{Ed001's Note - no, he hasn't had the medical yet for that to be an issue.}

10 Jul 2014 19:36:57
Are LFC interested in any different players to when you last said?
Thanks:)

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing confirmed.}

10 Jul 2014 18:41:15
Hi Eds, I hope you are well amidst the cacophony of the transfer window. I would like your thoughts on the following if you would be so kind:

1. In my opinion, the left back position is the hardest to fill due to the low amount of quality players in that position compared to the rest. Liverpool FC can certainly attest to this. Therefore I find it hard to comprehend that so many baulks at high transfer fees when a young left back of a certain quality emerges. If a rare commodity is in the market, the price will always go up. I know you Ed002, in particular don't like to talk about the financial aspects of transfers, so I will leave it there. I just wonder if you agree?

2. Out of the left backs we have been looking at, could you give us a shortlist sorted by your personal opinion of the players' quality and potential?

Hope I'm not asking to much, and sorry for the long post and in advance if I molested your language in any way, Norwegian here.

Thank you so much for the great service you provide!

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{Ed002's Note - (1) There are plenty of left backs that have been or are available this summer and are seen to be good players, Shaw, Filipe, Moreno, Rodriguez, Rojo, Bertrand, Kurzawa, Kolodziejczak, Schennikov, Bernat, Sandro, Nagatomo, Erkin - so I disagree. (2) I can't do that, sorry.}

Are Wolfsburg looking to offload Rodriguez or is the player pushing to leave? I would have thought they would want to keep him for the time being

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{Ed002's Note - Neither but clubs are interested in him.}

Pronin, the right back position is the weaker side. Name me 10 top right-backs in the game right now and you'll find the answer is Phillip Lahm is the only right back capable enough going forward and defensively to be considered world-class.
Ivanovic is up there, Dani Alves going forward is special if lacking defensively on occasion and that's about it.

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Do you rate Nagamoto? Did he do well at Inter?

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10 Jul 2014 17:18:14
Hi Eds

Does it still look likely that Bertrand will be our left back next season mate, over Moreno and Rojo?

Decent player imo.

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions with the word "likely" in - I have said where I know of interest.}

10 Jul 2014 19:08:37
In my opinion the only players that would adequately (and realistically) replace Suarez are Antoinne Greizmann, Jackson Martinez, Roberto Firmino, Loic Remy or Wilfried Bony. I think these players could be prized away from their current clubs for no more than £30m (I presume only Martinez would cost that, the rest should be less than that).

I also believe Moussa Sissoko would be an amazing addition to our midfield, especially if we sell Lucas.

again, this is just my opinion. Thanks

Kam

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10 Jul 2014 19:27:12
You think bony or Remy would replace suarez?! That's an insult to suarez!

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Really I don't know what all of the hype is about Bony, he did okay at Swansea but is far from Suarez material.

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You can't replace Suarez. He is in the top three in the world. His goal and assist stats las season were unreal, add the free kicks, corners and penalties. He is priceless as a player

Eds suggest Greismann has issues, so I'd stay well clear.
Bony looks like he could be a 'Drogba' if in a team creating as many chances as ours, not sure on his fitness/Stamina. Wasn't he dropped for a while last season? Unfit? Could be wrong
Not sure on JM. Seems a lot of cash

Don't think we have £30-40m to spend on one player, we need defenders. But if we did I've always liked Benzema. Can't see him and Sturridge together though.

Rather spend the cash on Lovren, Moreno and Shaqiri

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Sturridge will replace Suarez. we just need someone to give Sturridge heavy and healthy competition and improve the overall profile and striking arsenal of the club. We can't have teams thinking once sturridge is out their problems are over.

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10 Jul 2014 19:02:55
Two just general questions, loosely based on Liverpool.
If someone bit three different people, three different times, would they be in trouble with the police if reported!

Also, if a player is a dead cert to leave, does he still train, for example Suarez if he wasn't banned (i know he wouldn't be back from holiday yet) but would he train with the squad still?

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10 Jul 2014 20:49:11
I don't know how it is possible to answer your first question. The second one is also subjective, it is dependent on several different factors, e.g. if the player is on strike etc.

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Not on strike Just leaving

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11 Jul 2014 00:06:56
Generally yes. They are professionals who are hired to do a job. If they were to not train when the club requests they do that would come under striking (unless it is through illness or injury). Whilst they are under contract they are required to meet the terms of said contract.

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10 Jul 2014 18:28:23
Any updates on lovren, moreno, suarez, markovic or any other targets or players leaving Macca?

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10 Jul 2014 16:43:21
ssn now reporting were in talks for bony, he's a good striker only 25 but I'd would have expected us to go for an attacker who can play behind Sturridge or at least interchange with the forwards we have, like Suarez did.

How would we accommodate both?

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I like this idea a lot, Bony is a different player to what we have (he is not Suarez but no one is) Bony could either play up by himself if Sturridge is injured, or play as part of a two.

I seem to remember he played in a deeper role for Vitesse from time to time as well behind Reis who they preferred up front.

Essentially this would leave us with 4 forward players (Sturridge, Bony, Lambert, Borini) to fill either 1 or 2 roles in the team.

I for one like this idea!

Bony is quality, but isn't going to come in and assume he is top dog. Studge likes feeling like the dogs vegetables, and they could work well together.

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10 Jul 2014 19:40:14
Please, not Boney!
No different to Carroll. I was in Brazil and got to see 2 Ivory Coast games, he 'really didn't impress, u could feel the high fans got when Drogba replaced him and the team suddenly oozed confidence and were far more industrious. And certainly not a £20 million player!
And we should aspire to more than Ben Davies!
Considering affordability and presuming we do sign Markovic, I'd like to see Griezmann or Xerdhan Shaqiri. Yes we need another striker, a personal choice, but with departure of Suarez I'd love to see Diego Ribhas come in, whether as second striker or as part of a 1st choice pair he'd be brilliant, scores amazing goals and important goals, and has skills to die for. Another option would be Carlos Vela.
As for left back. From looking at Lucas Digne, Alberto Moreno, Ricardo Rodriguez and Marcos Rojo it would be sad to end up with Ben Davies. With all due respect you have Baines, Shaw, Ashley Cole & Kieron Gibbs who are all English and far better, the guy will probably find it extremely difficult to even become an international . Just a personal point of View but expect LFC to target a higher calibre of player.
We are set to lose the 'best striker in the world' and yes we are strengthening but it seems like squad depth to me. Because we failed with Aspas, Alberto, Borini, Assaidi, Moses, Llori, Cissoko, and to some extent Allen and Toure, these players only got in the team at times because there was no one else to choose, not on merit.
We need 3-4 players who demand a 1st team spot on Merit. 1 or 2 have to produce immediately in terms of scoring goals, whilst other 1-2 players must help us stop conceding!
Anyway happy with Lallana & Lambert, hope we do sign Markovic & Origi. And will hold judgement on Can.
Funny through the season there were so many saying we only need 2-3 players, many suggesting Alberto and Suso would be good enough, or even Aspas. Well looks like there'll be quite a few signings this year!

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10 Jul 2014 18:17:16
Hey eds question for ed 001. first time poster here . just wondering if d interest in wilfred bony is real or just lazy journalists? And if so do u think he would b a gud signing. I think d lad would fit right in and had a super season just gone. were not going to find a like for like replacement for suarez either. cheers in advance for any reply

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea mate, sorry. I have been busy working on the sites today, not had a chance to chase up any info at all.}

Hey ed01! Sorry to be a bother, but while checking on Bony, could you also see if Griezmann's decision not to renew his contract may have sparkled some kind of interest from our proud club?
Also, Ben Davies (probably asked already); seems to be a better option than Bertrand, even though I recall you did not fancy the guy? Common information seems to be we made a "tentative" enquiry, but Moreno remain an option.

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{Ed001's Note - I will ask now mate.}

If we were taking a left back from Swansea I would prefer Neil Taylor. I know he has had injury problems but his positional sense is good, and he is quick. He won't bomb forward as much as Davies but is still comfortable with the ball in the opposition half. And would probably be a lot less than Davies.

Just my two penneth anyway.

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You are the best ed! Truth be told I am almost certain Griezmann is simply lazy journalism, but hey, one can always be greedy - transfer window is going swell I think, apart from losing Suarez, and I'd much rather a polivalent player like Griez over another striker

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Cheers for d reply ed 001.

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10 Jul 2014 17:54:12
Did Liverpool sell Armin Hodzic of Zeljeznicar, who I belive had a somekind of a contract with 'pool to Dinamo Zagreb? I think he was'nt given a working permmit in England 2 years ago when 'pool gave him some kind of a contract.

I'm from Bosnia, and if they did sell him, with no buy-back clouse will live to reggret it.

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11 Jul 2014 01:58:04
Couldn't agree more man. One look at the guy, he'll score goals anywhere he goes. Probably will end up at a decent German team after a few years, then he will have a 30+ goal season with whoever that is, then he is the hottest property.

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10 Jul 2014 17:18:14
Not sure what the situation with Thomas Müller of Bayern is but it seems to me that he would be an ideal replacement for Luis albeit not quite the same style of play. From what I have seen he spends most of his time the bench at bayern and is not Guardiola's fitsy choice. He can play anywhere across the front or play as an attacking midfielder. He is creative works his socks off for the team and best of all he is consistent. Surely worth a shout?

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I'd take him in a heartbeat. Why would he leave Bayern though? If he stays he's guaranteed Champions League final after final he'd have to be asked to leave IMO and then there'd be clubs banging on the door to sign him

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10 Jul 2014 17:11:04
Reports are gathering fast that Wilfred Bony is in talks with Liverpool over a £20M move and that he is very keen on the move.

Very good player in my view and a different option to what we already have he would be a good signing for me, what do my fellow reds think if he signs?

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Very good signing for me, he strong as an ox, good in the air & knows where the goal is! Think he could form a lethal partnership with ds15. Hopefully get a good winger who can produce quality crosses into the box & we could soon be sayin suarez who.

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Who's better Bony, Benteke or Lukaku? Think Bony has more about him at the moment being at his peak and can give us some muscle up front. Looks like BR is going to make us more physical next season with the flair from last.

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He has a 1 goal in 2 ratio in his first season in the premier league.
He isn't the same quality as Suarez, that's a fact, but from what I've seen he works hard is quick and built like an ox. Rather him than Benzema.

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10 Jul 2014 18:20:32
Looked very good last season he would be a very good buy I think.

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10 Jul 2014 18:47:16
I think he isn't what we need. Can't play anywhere else other than striker and I would pick DS over him every time so a wasted. 20mil

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Have to agree with 87red a bit. I don't understand what we would do with Bony other than play 2 up top and I'm not sure that's the way forward, although I suppose if that's what BR wants to do then fair enough.

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Have to agree with 87red a bit. I don't understand what we would do with Bony other than play 2 up top and I'm not sure that's the way forward, although I suppose if that's what BR wants to do then fair enough.

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I was praying for us to sign bony from Vitesse he was unbelievable there and nothing I saw this season changed that opinion. he is pure quality and would be an unbelievable addition to the side but I would feel that it could see the end of borini and aspas especially if sign markovic! Just don't think they'd be happy nor do I think it would be fair to have them play 4th fiddle.

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10 Jul 2014 21:04:34
I think we'll play 4-2-3-1 most of the time. Switching to 4-3-3 when required. Sturridge will be Main Striker. We already have Lallana, Sterling and Coutinho for the 3 attacking roles behind Striker, adding Markovic will bring more pace & creativity. I'd love to see a natural left-footer like Griezmann or Shaqiri join us too. That would make the attack absolutely awesome. Lambert can play with or as cover for Sturridge,
Holding/playmaking roles will go to Can, Gerrard, Henderson & Allen (maybe a new face too?)
Main concerns still remain both FullBack positions as well as at least one proper top top Centre Back.
Don't real rate Bony, yes he scored a lot in his 1st season. So did Benteke, Michu & Lukaku to name a few in recent times. If the player profile is a big strong target man type. I'd rather Negredo. Obviously we've missed out on Lewandowski, Mandzukic. and no chance of Falcao, Ibrahimovic type.
Anyway that's just my thoughts. It's harder to guess who'll be leaving. At a guess I would think quite a few. Assaidi, Aspas, Coates, Lucas, Connor Coady, Kristian Adorjan,. And I think BR would consider Agger, Enrique, Martin Kelly and Suso leaving if the right offers came in.

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I would really like to know your reasoning for wanting negredo over bony I'm not having a go but I just don't in anyway see how you could want him apart from the fact he plays for city and is therefore more of a name?

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And I couldn't give a shit about City mate, or any other team, supported LFC all my life, and best night I ever lived was in Istanbul 2005!

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11 Jul 2014 02:02:37
It's not because he's a name. He's a better footballer.
Bony always hustling and bustling but rarely a truly class finish,same as Charlie Adams goals at Blackpool. Always a lot of luck involved, buy if you think back in Premier League,guys like Tony Yeboah, Jimmy Gloyd Hasselbaink,Stan Collymore all big lads but showed deftness speed guile . Could bend it . Smash it . Pick their spot, Bony never shows skill to buy himself a yard/set himself up and do something special,always a few seconds too slow or barging about.

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10 Jul 2014 15:24:46
Eds,

Do you know if the pause in the Suarez deal was due to all parties awaiting the outcome of his (now failed) appeal?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

10 Jul 2014 16:02:24
Hi guys, just thought I'd see what everyone thought about LFC refusing to refund shirts with Suarez on the back of them. Personally I think the club is mostly right not to refund and people who got his name on their back are quite naïve. The Suarez move this summer has been quite obvious since last summer. If a player changed his number then I'd see it differently and expect the club or the player to refund it (á la Bendtner).

I don't remember a fuss about names on shirts when Owen left for Madrid in 2004. I do remember we took the mick out of my mate for being in that situation though.

I'm sure it's an issue that a lot of people won't give a damn about though!

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Maybe should ask Suarez to refund them!

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10 Jul 2014 17:07:11
You bought the jersey, you keep it. It's just people being dramatic; there's no reason why the club should be held responsible to refund money for jerseys that are not faulty.

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At the end of the day the transfer window is open. If you are stupid enough to have printed the name of a player heavily linked with a move away, then it's your own fault.

Re d

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10 Jul 2014 18:17:28
Why? You chose to put his name.

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My cousin got an Owen shirt when he was about 6 in 2004, his surname is Power and when Owen left the LFC store in town took the 'n' off and shoved a P on the front and an R on the end free of charge. It was their idea when he went in there crying about it too haha!

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I've still got one with candy on it, and one with crown, and one with a curry stain

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It is a bit embarrassing, the club can hardly be held accountable for a player leaving. We all knew there was a chance of Suarez leaving, should I demand a refund off Bill Gates when my x-box is outdated? What worries me is that on the echo website, just over half of the people thought the club should refund the fans. I would have more sympathy if it were a number change, as already mentioned.

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10 Jul 2014 15:20:52
Where does coutinho fit in now we have overspent on lallana?

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Think allen shoud be more worried than coutinho.

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Where would it have left him if we underspent? Or spent the right amount?

How on earth can anyone say we overspent when the guy hasn't even turned up for training yet, ridiculous!

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In the many many games we are going to play . squad dept

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Hopefully the extra competition pushes Coutinho to raise his game. He is by no means the finished article and at times last season he needed a break. It's a positive adding Lallana to the squad and don't forget they could both play in more than one position.

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10 Jul 2014 15:46:29
There is no correlation between Adam Lallana's price and where Coutinho will play in the team.

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In the same position, a bit of competition never hurt any one

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10 Jul 2014 15:48:51
So we should have a squad of 11 starters and that's it? How about depth, what a great position it is to have two brilliant versatile players such as Coutinho and Lallana in your team. No doubt they'll both start together a good few times too. Hate your type of "support", just go away.

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Please, oh please stop with all the bitchy remarks and moaning!

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10 Jul 2014 15:52:32
Since we've "overspent" on Lallana, Coutinho will get a hair cut, pay cut and will be forced to adapt himself as the 4th goalkeeper.

If this sounds just crazy, then you can always contact BR directly.

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Lallana is a 10/15 million pound player who plays more or less the same position as Coutinho and as for the price and place in the team I believe in many cases it has a bearing with increased pressure on the management team to justify the price and the player by playing them. I hope this isn't the case. Example of such can be seen at Chelsea when they played other forwards ahead of Lukaku and before him Sturridge

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We have overspent on him. But Coutinho will be fine, infact he'll be better

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Personally I'm hoping this will really challenge Coutinho and hopefully with the extra work he'll improve on his shooting accuracy which would turn the guy from very good to outstanding footballer.
I think last season he wasn't being pushed as much as he will this season and this can only be beneficial for the player and more importantly for the club.

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10 Jul 2014 16:57:04
D4 how do you come up with that price?

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10 Jul 2014 17:09:12
10-15 million pound player. In what universe? Lallana is southamptons former captain, a standout player for them, and is just short of reaching his prime. He's worth every pound IMO

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10 Jul 2014 17:27:43
10 to 15 is his true value if he wasn't English. I believe we paid somewhere between 23 and 25million. I just hope the buying of lallana doesn't have a negative effect on the development of coutinho

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10-15 mil? Ross McCormack went for 11 mil! Your clueless

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Absolute rubbish! I'm sorry, we wanted Lallana and we paid what Southampton wanted before they would sell him. You just cannot say we "overspent".

And BR has already proven that he is not one to be held to ransom by his own signings. Aspas barely got a kick because he was so underwhelming, Allen spent most of the season on the bench and Kirikou only started playing regularly towards the end of the season.

BR will pick the players he thinks are best for the match, he won't give a monkeys about how much they cost!

Judge Lallana half way through his contract not before he starts his role!

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A 26 year old member of the PFA player of the year team for 10-15 million pounds? Thanks for sharing your extensive knowledge of the transfer market.
ps: why bring Coutinho into it, when the whole point of your post was to whine about how much we paid for Lallana?

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10 Jul 2014 18:19:18
Just like every other player, he is worth whatever a club are willing to pay. Why is Suarez being sold for £75m as opposed to £125m or even £25m, because that's what Barca are willing to pay for the player. Simples!!!.

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What value is Coutinho in your eyes D4 Red?

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Hopefully he'll react to the competition for places like Hendo has.
I think we have overspent on Lallana, I think he's under most pressure to nail down a first team place.

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10 Jul 2014 19:10:49
True value?

Again, how do you arrive to that conclusion?

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10 Jul 2014 19:52:48
I like Lallana as a player but we did overspend and that is down to Southampton playing hardball and us wanting him. But he is not worth what has been reported we paid for him. I hope he will be a success.

Coutinho I think is also worth about 15 to 18m (similar to Lallana at the mo). They may share the role or play together but should we not give others the chance too like Texiera who plays a similar and in his early 20s needs the game time and not just in cup games. With that said 20 odd million could have been spent fixing the glaring holes in our defence but if BR wanted Lallana then I guess he has a plan of fitting him into the team or the bench beside Allen in some games.

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10 Jul 2014 20:07:33
You still haven't explained "true value".

Oh well, and, there was I hoping you had a top-secret-player-valuation formula that you're about reveal to us.

I guess it's easier to say random stuff and harder to back them up.

You should consider taking the Ed's advice regarding money.

And good night to you.

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Comments like this really annoy me. like when and why as fans did we become so obsessed with money? I would much prefer no fees were ever publicized and we could actually just support the players!

I know that that is probably over naive but like seriously hasn't touched a ball for us and some people already have something against the player (which has nothing to do with him btw) all because of the fee we payed?

Like if he improves the team and our chances of doing well which he does I really couldn't give a Mickey about price tags

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10 Jul 2014 15:07:35
Fifa have rejected the appeal against the Suarez ban. Fair play I was expecting them to cave in and reduce it. Let's hope they now increase it for him having the cheek to appeal against biting someone for the 3rd time.

On another note and back to LFC business I can't wait to see the squad during pre season with the youngsters and new arrivals vying to impress. I think Texeira is going to demonstrate that he is ready for the step up this season.

Now before I get shot down I am just relaying what I was told yesterday that the Palace winger Yannick Bolasie may be in our sights for winger options. Again this is only what I have heard before you all start ranting about missing out on Sanchez and wanting "world class" players. I'm sure if it's got any substance to it he is surely one of our choices further down the list of targets for that position. The question being how far down the list he is?

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10 Jul 2014 15:47:42
I don't think Bolasie is joining man.

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10 Jul 2014 16:40:56
Fair play maybe don't see the point of stopping him training or entering stadiums
is he going to bite the crowd
loved himas a player defended himto the end over evra but enough is enough

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Going for Sanchez and ending up with Bolasie is like asking your parents for a pair of Puma Dalglish Hero and ending up with a pair of Dunlop football boots. Fact.

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I think the point of the ban from all footballing activity is to highlight the seriousness of the offence.
It's a wake up call to a repeat offender.

"Eh Luis, if this happens again you could get a life time ban. Here's a 4 month taster of what you will lose".

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10 Jul 2014 14:40:35
I think Suarez leaving now allows Brendan to play his favoured formation. I feel he felt with Suarez and Sturridge he had to play 2 up top, whereas he would have preferred to play 4-2-3-1. This formation change will allow us to defend better, resulting in less goals being conceded. If we score as many as last season it's going to be another exciting season!

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10 Jul 2014 15:48:58
I think you are right and we will see us play 4-3-3 or variations of that formation a lot more next season.

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It all very well playing BR favourite formation but if the players bought in rant good enough the end result will be the same .and IMO the players coming in aren't good enough .there squad players at best .how many of the new guys would start for man city, arsenal, Chelsea, even utd

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10 jul 2014 14:36:51
i don't understand!! why do we keep signing wingers? we need a replacement for suarez. sturridge will get injured, lambert is a reasonable backup, borini, aspas, pacheco are not cl quality. 50m on 2 wingers seems daft when we have other areas to bolster including the strikers role. tottenham messed up last season with the bale cash and this looks like a mirror image. am i reading this wrong, or are we setting ourselves up badly?

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{Ed002's Note - Pacheco left a year ago.}

Rubbish. Pacheco went last season. Borini is quality and deserves a chance otherwise what message does it send to our players who go on loan and do well?

We needed a winger, Markovic could be top quality. Aspas is poor and will go and Moses will not be made perm.

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You're reading it wrong. Lallana isn't a winger. Markovich would make it two wingers with Sterling. And the last time I counted there are two wings. Not exactly over-stocked!

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10 Jul 2014 15:35:59
did this guy just mention Dani Pacheco,wonder what team you been screaming for this past season

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10 Jul 2014 15:56:06
You clearly don't understand a lot of things.

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Wingers are the new strikers look at thomas muller let's hope we produce football like germans who have played mostly without a recognised striker and lit up the place
ps also robben

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Pacheco. Classic.

Judging by the options at our disposal, loan players like Suso, Borini and Wisdom will get a good run in the side this season. All three can challenge the players directly in front of them, and are well posed to play. I'd prefer to see Tex, Ibe, Rossiter and the like given loans this season rather than throwing them in from the deep end.

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He's right about overstocking with wingers, £50m on wingers, where does that leave Bernard Diomede?

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10 Jul 2014 14:06:42
Would just like to say good luck to LS for the future. He played a big part in getting us back into the CL, and I hold no grudges towards him. I never really believed Suarez would stay with us for long, and all the love he professed for LFC was abit of a white lie. When FT left I genuinely believed he loved us as much as we loved him, but I never really felt that with Suarez.
So thanks for the memories, and see you around.

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Probably next time you see him in will be behind bars :)

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10 Jul 2014 16:41:17
I thought the whole love stuff with famous people/celebrity/footballers subsided when Micheal Jackson was no more?

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"Probably next time you see him in will be behind bars :)"

, yeah at the zoo.

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A bit harsh on Tommy there!

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10 Jul 2014 13:34:26
A question for Ed001 if he is about. I was wondering what you thought of Gareth Southgate as the Eng u21 manager. Is he the right man to be developing young english talent? and has he helped players from Liverpool and other clubs develop and improve - just wondering if he has helped in the development of Sterling (even though I think Rodgers has had a massive part in helping him). I would like to hear your opinion as you seem to be well informed for youth football.

Thanks for all your hard work

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{Ed001's Note - he is an improvement over the useless *censored* that preceded him, a huge improvement. I am not convinced he is anywhere near the best man for the job, but he is far from the worst. He is still learning his trade, when, imo, coaches in the younger age group should be the better ones, as that is when you can make the most difference to a player's career. Too early to say what difference he is making right now, but he does have the right attitude to become a good coach in the future.}

That pearce was a joke, dredfull. don't know what forest see in that6 guy

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I've spoken to footballers who have played for Pearce and they all think he's a complete person. He's basically thick but like Clarke Carlisle deludes himself that reading a few books had elevated him to the level of professor. Note how many times Carlisle does a Hilda Ogden and uses completely the wrong word that sounds similar to the right word!

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10 Jul 2014 13:07:23
Ed, may I ask your opinion on the left back situation. Last season Flanno played really well there, and was on the short list for the England position, which did not seem to raise many eyebrows, suggesting it was deserved. So are we looking for someone that is better than him as the first choice or completion for him for the position?
I imagine there to be a big difference in the price and availability between the 2 options. Moreno may be considered as an upgrade, but could Bertrand for instance?
Now I know Flanno may have been considered because he can play either side, but it was the form as LB that got him noticed.
I suppose it will hinge on Johnson myself, If he leaves, I see Flanno as the number 1 RB and then we need a new LB, if we keep Johnson, I see Flanno as LB as he is better than a lot of the ones suggested.
Simple really, the choice of LB depends on the RB staying or going, Lol

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{Ed001's Note - Flanno is not seen as a long term option at LB, the club would prefer him on the right. The idea is to buy a better left back and move him on to the right to compete with our other right backs. He can stil provide cover in times of need.}

To be honest RN I see Flanno as first choice right back whether Johnson stays or not.

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Flafu should be our right back for years if he can keep out McLaughlin. Wisdom will have to up his game if he wants that spot. Johnson is not even as good as any of the 3 players I just mentioned. I honestly don't know what pro coaches see in him. His natural ability is incredible and physically you'd say he is the perfect full back. He just doesn't apply it.

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Good post. Seriously thought the club would have tied up this LB problem by now in all honesty, seen as it was our Achilles throughout the season. Targets should've been identified and ROJO is my choice. I'd throw £18m at them right now and sort that one out he's unbelievably gifted and seen as we've been linked ect, makes sense

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Hi East Mids Scouser. What is your girlfriend's name. She looks like my daughter!

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Haha BUSTED! EMS

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Don't worry aklfc I've met her dad ;) unless you're Slovakian I don't think it's your daughter ;)

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Don't worry aklfc I've met her dad ;) unless you're Slovakian I don't think it's your daughter ;)

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10 Jul 2014 11:44:15
Quite a few people are asking for opinions on players and it'll be easier to direct people to it.)

{Ed033's Note - Click on link to read the - Review on can, lallana and origi

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10 Jul 2014 13:51:26
Hi E.M.S. You look absolutely great. I don't like the look of you boyfriend however.

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Haha, cheers pape -.-

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Enjoyed that article, cheers Ed033

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10 Jul 2014 12:31:51
Hi all

My biggest concern, We all thought all along that when we got into the champs league we would be able to attract top top players, but so far we havent.

Lallana is great but not convinced on others and people we have been linked with!

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Like who? who did you expect?

Zlatan, vidal, silva, gundongan?

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10 Jul 2014 13:13:56
Please define, top top player?

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There's a lot to be said for having a bit of patience. There's also a lot to be said for having a bit of common sense. We may have just entered the CL again but we don't have the financial clout to compete with teams that have been consistently at the top. But anyway, time for realism, try and cut out the fantasy football please.

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Top top players play top top games.

There is a website "toptopgames.etc"

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Our financial situation is well documented and, even with Champions League football, is such that the signing of "top players" (translation: expensive players) is un-feasible because 1) we simply don't have the money and 2) because we need to make a number of signings to strengthen meaning we need to spread out our spending rather than just lashing it away on 2 players. There is also the issue of wages of "top players" to add into the equation and I think, when taking a look at our club as a whole, that the signings we are making fit into both our current philosophy and our current financial situation. Fans expecting the Vidal's and Hummel's and Ibrahimovic's of this world are going to be disappointed - I think most fans are realistic about what we are doing as a club. Personally I am happy with the business we have done and are looking to do.

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My definition of a top class player is someone who is a game changer, regardless of position. A regular international player, preferably in top 10-15 listed country. Ideally a title winner and regular club player who is highly rated. Again ideally this club level is CL level or top teams outside Europe.

With the money for transfers LFC should have earned via finishing 2nd, CL football, sky TV money, kit deals and incoming transfer fees coupled with our name, one of the most supported and famous clubs around the globe, the style of football seen last season.why are we not trying to lure players from Munich, Barcelona, Madrid, Dortmund, Ajax, Lyon, Milan, Juve etc? Apparently English club pay such high wages.

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{Ed001's Note - you seem to have forgotten to factor in the £1m a week losses the club has been making for years. Typical of those obsessed with the big name superstars that Liverpool have never bought at any time. These kind of posts are just embarrassing. What is wrong with doing what Liverpool have always done and bought players that fit the system, rather than players who are well known to you?}

I don't expect Vidal, Zlatan or Neymar. I don't expect Bertrand though or even Davis for the much required LB slot.
We want to push on and try again for the title and compete in the CL. We all know we conceded to many goals and cannot score the same again if a 31 goal striker is removed.

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10 Jul 2014 14:56:06
So, Crunch, in short you mean you want players that have proven themselves somewhere else?

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Sorry ED001. It's well documented the income from TV, CL and finishing 2nd plus all these deals for kits plus being one of the top 5 teams in the world for merchandise sales. I also hear members of the club state we can compete with anyone in the market.

So I'm going on that and want quality, I get disappointed when I hear we're in for £8m Bertrand?

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So Crunch, who would you want as our LB?

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Players to fit the system. not the other way round. folk like u would have thought we would finish 7th last yr

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I would dearly love to know who you think said 'we can compete with anyone in the market'. I'm guessing you're misquoting Ayre.

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10 Jul 2014 15:46:41
You need to consider the situation the club was in just a few years ago, and then look at where we are now.

Most here wants the best for the club, but fans like need to just calm down a bit, curb your expectations and enjoy the ride.

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10 Jul 2014 16:52:50
Crunch is right, he's not talking about world class £50 million signings. He's talking about the players that aren't aspas, borini, illori, alberto, moses, Assaidi etc etc. The players that will improve our first 11 as well as our depth, and lallana is the only one that fits that policy.

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Yes I would like proven player for LB. surely it's important? We have good younger players like Flanno and Smith who can learn. Plus we are competing at a higher level next season. Am I the only one seeing this?

I would like Blind. He has won league titles, he has performed well at the highest stage. Played CL football. He has learned to play at a great football institution Ajax and Holland. Can also cover other positions.
Or Schmelzer from Dortmund.
After watching the WC, Rodriguez

I like what I read about Moreno but not sure for that money, he is a gamble as young and not international

How have I misquoted? You stating that no one from Liverpool FC has said we can compete with anyone in the transfer market? Not heard that?

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{Ed001's Note - so you want Blind, who has in no way proven himself, and is playing in an extremely weak league, plus is young himself? Pointless debating with you if you are this ridiculous. You have no idea about the club's finances and just clearly want them to spend money for the sake of appeasing your big name fetish. No wonder the club is in such a state if this is the 'thinking' of fans!}

10 Jul 2014 17:55:33
This is pointless indeed, initially I thought this was about Liverpool.

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There's some science behind the idea that familiarity breeds contempt. Because people have seen Bertrand in a poor Villa team they can't view him positively. If we'd been linked with him for 8m the day after his CL final performance it would be a different story. Daley Blind was barely mentioned on this site until the Spain game. I've seen every game since and I'm sorry but he doesn't stand out. Lots of clubs have looked at Moreno but don't think he's worth what Sevilla are asking. Moreno is viewed positively because Sevilla won the Europa. Therefore, counter-intuitively perhaps, go for the guy who has talent but isn't flavour of the month. Chelsea are going to pay 15m for Felipe off the back of a great season when he would have been worth a Bertrand 12 months ago. IF it's to be Bertrand it's because BR rates him.

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Ed001. Blind Is coming from the same side as Erikson and Suarez. Both seemed to do well here neither were quoted as coming from a lesser league? I guess you're all for Bertrand then and still expect things to improve? The only place higher than 2nd is 1st and to get there we do need winners and quality.

And as for finances. I am going by the only information I have. Right or wrong, the press. You guys don't want to clarify, fair enough. But if we are bidding £30m for Sanchez, £20m for Lovren and now Bony suddenly £20m I'm going on the fact we have money. Wrong? We need a LB and a decent one too, wrong? In fact LB looking at what we have ability and experience wise i'd say that purchase is more important than another striker if as you suggest we don't have these funds. Why is it wrong to want the best for my club, better level than Bertrand or Davis?

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{Ed001's Note - actually both were quoted as coming from a lesser league, which is why they were available for Spurs and ourselves to buy. And where did I say I am all for Bertrand? You are just talking more crap and making up lies to try and make an idiotic point.
We have a decent left back at the club, why do you feel the need to slag off the players already here? What is wrong with Smith? Except that he isn't a big name you can feel good about, obviously.}

Blind has won the league, is mid 20s so coming into his prime like Lallana at a yr older. A stand out player at the WC in a side penalties away from the final. Has played football at the highest level. Has either Lallana or Lambert? I'm not slagging them off at all but if you say Blind isn't of the class then where do you put those two?

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{Ed001's Note - stand out? He had an ok game against a terrible Spain side and has since been extremely average. What is stand out about him? What has Lallana and Lambert got to do with Blind? Blind plays for a country so weak in defence that they hung all their hopes on Ron Vlaar. A man so average in ability he struggles at Villa. By the way, you will find Lallana played at the World Cup too, in case it escaped your attention.}

Crunch
That Rodriguez fella that came on last night and scored the winning penalty for Argentina looked good!
Apparently he already has experience of playing in England as well!

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The same Bertrand that Chelsea don't want? Cole has left, is Bertrand going to replace? No.
We finished above Chelsea and want to do that again, right? Then if he is not good enough for them he ain't good enough for us. At £8m? Where did that come from. If he had a good season at Villa fine, but he didn't.

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Ed you've not posted my reply to your questions?
The weak league and team that both Suarez and Erikson came from? Blind is a big name fetish? How so if he is from such a weak league?

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{Ed001's Note - oh shut up whinging, I was busy and have more important things to do than respond to some whiner on here. Do you think I sit around waiting for some self important whiner to reply? The Dutch league is weak, if you are too lacking in knowledge about the game to see that it makes no difference that Suarez and Eriksen came from there then it is your own fault. What on earth Eriksen and Suarez leaving there has to do with its relative strength I have no idea, but I do wish you would just give up because your posts are just nonsense and I am bored to tears of this discussion!}

Ed001. Bud I'm only coming on here for banter. There is no disrespect on my part honest.

I don't recall when Erikson or Suarez were coming over they were coming from a lesser league. Sorry missed that. Hold my hands up.

Yeah AL played, but can you compare the minutes played and contribution? I was just using AL and RL as a comparison. Blind has won stuff and played at the highest level of club football and international, yet it sounds like you don't rate him. So I just wondered what you thought of them in comparison? Both were playing lower then premier in recent times.

I rate Smith. He and Ibe looked awesome in preseason. I'm not going to pretend I have professional knowledge. But I think Smith is not ready for CL football nor will be the answer in conceding less and helping us towards a title.

I just want the best for our team, I don't want to go out early in the CL or finish outside top four. So yeah I would like a finished (or close to it) top level player in a position we need to cover. If not Blind, who?

As I said no offence. Really just looking for a bit of banter. Appreciate your time and replies as always.

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{Ed001's Note - Blind is one I know we looked at a few years back and decided against buying. Up until now I have not had much of a look at him, but seeing him in the World Cup I can see why we looked elsewhere. He has nothing outstanding about him as a left back. His crossing is poor. His first touch and technique are average. His passing is average. He doesn't look comfortable getting forward. He is constantly between two stools, never knowing whether to hold back or push on, when he has space and time. Though he does look decent defensively, it is only when there is no space behind him. By the way he moves and thinks, I just can't see him adapting at all. I am completely unimpressed by him, I have to say. I wonder if he would be touted if he was not the son of such a great player? If Holland had any defenders worthy of the name, I doubt any of their backline would be at this World Cup, not one has looked good.
The comparison thing annoys me because so many people try and make comparisons when they are irrelevant. Each case should be considered only on its own merits. Whether it is a player's valuation or whether we should go for them, it should be about the player involved, not who else we bought.
Apologies for my over reaction, I was getting harassed by lots of silly questions spread across lots of sites while trying to work on something else. No excuse for biting at you or anyone else though and I apologise unreservedly. This is why I don't normally allow myself to be rushed, even the mildest reply can end up coming across as harsh if I don't take the time to read it back through. That was my fault not yours.
Oh, as for Smith, imo he just needs to play first team football to find out if he is good enough, and we won't know until he gets that chance. Blind, on the other hand, is simply not going to be top class, and that is from observing him having had chances to prove himself.}

ED001. Cheers for the chat on Blind, your time and insight.
Have a relaxing evening and as posted earlier there was no intention to wind you up etc.

No need to post this on the site, just a personal thanks bud.

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10 Jul 2014 12:30:02
Eds who do you think is the better player, Konoplyanka or Markovic? Don't know much about either so just wondering, cheers!

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{Ed001's Note - not a clue.}

At the moment about the same standard but Markovic has the potential to be world class in a couple of years.

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I'd say Konoplyanka is the better player at the moment but he is 5 years Markovic's senior. If he fulfils his huge potential then Markovic could be something very special - realising potential is a very grey area though, we can only hope that Rodgers is able to nurture his undoubted talents.

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Considering Portugal is a better lge with benfica n porto progressing further in Europe season in season out. plus markovic was superb in the run up to Europa final, i'd go with markovic myself

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10 Jul 2014 12:00:06
I hope we don't just splurge all the Suarez money for the sake of it. We need a good back-up for Sturridge and that has been addressed to some extent with Lambert. At center-half we have options and if we could sell Agger and Skrtel (love Agger though) then that would soften the Lovren fee. The only area where we should spend top money is for a GK. Mignolet has done Ok and will probably improve but with Suarez off this is the position where spending the money will have the greatest benefit for the team as a whole. It's natural for fans to want attacking talent but it's in this area where our youth teams give us options (Teixeira, Ibe etc). It would be criminal if we squandered this talent by buying players who will hinder their path to the first team. I love Lallana who is an excellent footballer (and I'll back him fully), but we had young players who will now struggle to play as a result. This seems counterproductive: you stifle the young players and spend significant money in an area where you already have talent. Wouldn't spending 25 million on a keeper of the quality of Asmir Begović (I know he didn't want to come last season) have been a more sound investment?

I largely support Rodgers who has done an excellent job but I find it baffling that a talent such as Suso is being moved on. I concede Rodgers has infinitely more knowledge than me, and maybe Suso has issues of which we are unaware. Nonetheless from my, admittedly limited perspective, this seems hard to fathom.

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Rather than spend big on a GK I'd prefer a decent LB

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10 Jul 2014 11:23:17
Seen a couple of posts here asking if we will sign a new RB. I would like to see Flanno getting a few games in this his more natural position. Especially for those tighter games where a more defensive minded player is needed. And we have Ryan McLoughlin coming through who looked to be a really exciting prospect last pre season. Remains to be seen where Kelly will end up playing (CB or RB) and whether GJ will renew on lower wages or run down his contract. Either way, I think we have RB covered.

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10 Jul 2014 11:46:37
Is there any truth in Markovic having his medical today. Tony Barrett of The Times and James Pearce of the Liverpool Echo are both reporting this.

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Chances are that he is then.

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10 Jul 2014 11:23:11
Hi eds do we still have any interest in Lorenzo Melgarejo? I no we did lat season before he went on loan looked like a good attacking lwb which is just what we need and would be considerably cheaper then Moreno.
Cheers

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10 Jul 2014 11:04:14
Morning eds apart from huntalaar and apparently origi poss going back to Lille for a season loan have we looked into any out and out strikers? As I think there and cb positions is a concern, cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Lambert.}

10 Jul 2014 11:08:31
Would love if we could get greizmann and Martinez fantasy stuff I know but that would be some squad with those two in it along with the other new signings mignolet flano sakho lovren Bertrand strevie/can hendo lallana greizmann sturridge/Martinez sterling/markovic subs ward skrtel Johnson coutinho Allen and any out of the two options I have selected in the starting line up. With playing in four comps everyone would get plenty of playing time even the youngsters

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10 Jul 2014 10:50:09
HI Ed01
I am sure you have answered similar questions but will you give a quick summary on your opinion of our signings so far and also very likely ones (origi) and also ( perhaps less likely?) Lovren & Markovic

Thanks

i ask because if I am honest with myself I think Lallana is a top first team player, and rickie and great buy for the money. emre I know little about but fingers crossed. I just am not sure we have targeted player I thought we would, unless we have but they all showed little interest.

THANKS

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{Ed001's Note - I can't really give an opinion on Markovic, Origi or Can, I haven't seen enough of them play to form one. In Can's case, I haven't seen him play at all!
Lovren, if we get him, would be a great signing in my opinion, he would be an excellent addition. He is a very good defender, with more pace than Skrtel, allowing us to play a higher line. Also, he is better on the ball than Skrtel, though Skits has improved a lot in this area since joining us. His positional sense is usually excellent and his main strength, imo, but he is also a little less rash than Skrtel, though he does have his moments too.
Lallana I rate highly, though his stamina might be questionable, he rarely finishes a game, a lot of that is down to his extremely high workrate. He presses the opposition, closes down well and provides a good first line of defence. His main strength is his ability on the ball, he has good vision, allied to the ability to play the pass he has seen. But it is mostly about his ability to glide past a defender, that is exceptional. He doesn't have outright pace to leave them for dead, but he does have acceleration to just get away for a split second and the skill to move the ball out of their reach as he does so. That acceleration can be much more important than outright pace in most situations, as there are few opportunities for quick players to really get into their stride these days.
Lambert is the one I am most pleased about us signing, though I wouldn't say he was the best player, I am just delighted for him and the obvious joy on his face every time you see him. He is an excellent creative player, who is also a deadball specialist, but most of all he is just a very good player. Unlike some, he has constantly striven to improve his game and make himself a better player, refining his technique and learning about movement all the time. I think he could be very useful dropping off Sturridge and being the link between midfield and attack. Main worry with him is his back, which does have a long term issue, but hopefully he won't be playing enough for that to affect his game. I don't mean that in a nasty way, it is just that it would mean we are suffering injuries or playing badly if he is asked to start most games.}

Great interesting reply ed

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Thanks very much Ed01! As always on the money IMO.
I also rate Rickie and Lallana, and certainly would feel equally happy with Lovren should it happen.

I do feel though we need a top class striker though and very good left back. We have Rickie, Sturridge, and hopefully Borini will stay, but I think we need another top striker considering how many games we will be playing and likelyhood of injuries/bans etc

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You're easily pleased ed001, this transfer windows been BS imo.

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{Ed001's Note - then you need to try learning about the players bought and stop whining before you have even watched them play for the club.}

Well said Ed001. Too much doom mongering on here lately. It's been really stressing me out!

Please don't leave the site for longer than 3 hours again until we've beat Southampton on the opening day! We need you here to put them in their place and tell them they are wrong. It seems to be accepted when it comes from you!

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{Ed001's Note - I just get sick of people slagging new signings off with no justification. If they are willing to explain why they are unhappy, all well and good, but that post was just imbecilic and deserved nothing but contempt.}

Ok then Lallana, he's a good player but no better than Coutinho, he gets hyped up because he's english which also added another 10 mill on to his price by the way, then you have Can looks ok and he's young but I can't help wondering why bayern didn't take up their option if he was so good of a prospect, then Lambert not much of a risk considering what we paid but he's hardly going set the place alight for the 2 years he'll be there, then Markovic again young and looks ok but why didn't chelsea take up their option to buy him for less than we are paying, then Lovren last year cost 9 mill has a decent season with southampton and a pretty poor world cup and we are considering paying 25mill and then you have Origi who we are going to buy for 10 mill and loan him straight back to lille.
Brendan said improving the first 11 was the prority with quality not quantity, I personally don't see it and I wouldn't have liked to see who we would have bought without the Suarez money.

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10 Jul 2014 10:44:54
So I've heard that Sanchez is close to striking a deal to join Arsenal. Now maybe I'm falling prey to a little bit of wishful thinking here. but since Sanchez and Walcott both prefer to play on the right, could you see Arsenal considering letting him move on?

And more importantly, would there be a chance of us being interested? He is a LFC fan, and imagine the pace we would have with him and sterling!

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10 Jul 2014 11:00:36
How about Zlata?
Unrealistic in my opinion but he seems to like the signing on fees so should I dare hope? And for those who seek a direct replacement, would you be satisfied with him?

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10 Jul 2014 12:29:45
Sorry , bud , never heard of him .

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Zlata is a swedish born thoroughbred. She is approximately 18 hands and has a career win percentage of 87%. I believe she is now owned half by Michael Owen and half by a third party, Pedigree.

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10 Jul 2014 13:19:16
In the words of Zlatan "You don't know Zlata?"

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Sorry guys! I meant ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC!

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10 Jul 2014 10:44:54
So I've heard that Sanchez is close to striking a deal to join Arsenal. Now maybe I'm falling prey to a little bit of wishful thinking here. but since Sanchez and Walcott both prefer to play on the right, could you see Arsenal considering letting him move on?

And more importantly, would there be a chance of us being interested? He is a LFC fan, and imagine the pace we would have with him and sterling!

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{Ed002's Note - Would you sell Sterling to fit him in?}

I'd have took Walcott 12months ago. I'm not sure he'll ever be the same player again after this last injury though :/

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We have Ibe coming through who has potential to be as good as Sterling if not better.

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10 Jul 2014 13:11:13
Walcott! Please no. I am all for quick players but ideally you want them to take the ball with them! Half the time Walcott leaves it behind.

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A myth Red Swampy. Walcott posted double figures in goals and assists 3 seasons in a row which I think made him the first player in Premier League history to do so.

On form he is class. He does tend to go missing in some games and his injury record is atrocious, but he is a classy forward.

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10 Jul 2014 10:33:30
Can we have a caption competition please Ed's?
Just to have a break from all of the constant same old questions, over and over again.

Posters can send in pic's of what they think the Ed's look like, and what they think Harry Scousser and Waro look like.

Stick them on the dodgy sightings page.

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{Ed002's Note - Fine by me.}

Ive done mine for edd002. sorry ed :)

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10 Jul 2014 03:51:32
Hi Eds,
I know I should know this (being the Manager and stuff. ) but is there anyone that we are trying to sign under the radar and that the transfer news' are relatively unaware of?

Thanks

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10 Jul 2014 11:16:32
Ron-Robert Zieler

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10 Jul 2014 10:28:21
The metro reporting we are interested in bringing in benzema for around £40 they think he might be available if falcoe moves to Madrid . Ed's IF that was to happen can you really see benzema being a target for us? Sturidge / Benzema leading the attack in a champions league final. ahh. One can only dream!

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10 Jul 2014 11:40:53
40 quid would be a bargain. Though I don't see Madrid signing an 80s electro-pop act.

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10 Jul 2014 10:15:19
hey eds without going into monitory terms, wanted to ask you what you think about the financial prospect of Suarez leaving.

the x amount we will receive, do you believe it to be worth his value?

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't have any interest in discussing money.}

10 Jul 2014 10:13:59
eds or anyone, has suso gone yet?!I seem to be having a complete memory loss! if he hasn't gone is he back with the squad in pre-season?

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{Ed002's Note - Not yet.}

Yes, he's training with the squad. there are pics up on the official lfc site.

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10 Jul 2014 09:00:16
Hi Eds,

Just a quick one for you. Do you know if Liverpool are interested in Ben Davies and Wilfried Bony of Swansea, or has it just been made up?

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea, sorry.}

10 Jul 2014 09:41:43
strong rumours that agger and lucas are leaving.

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10 Jul 2014 09:02:39
hey eds, just a couple of questions, 1. is it true Origi and Markovic have had there medicals? 2. are we still interested in griezzman? 3. Do you think Bony could be bought to replace Suarez as there are rumours around were back in for him?

thanks in advance, Thanks for all the hardwork!, great site.

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{Ed002's Note - Is this Twitter?}

10 Jul 2014 07:50:39
hi Ed002, what's this that's going about that L.S. fee, he's been sold for £58 mill is this true, cut price because of his antics.thats giving him away . or is it just cheap press talk. thanks for doing a great job.

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{Ed002's Note - We don't discuss money.}

10 Jul 2014 03:43:16
Hello eds, is there any interest in luis muriel from Liverpool?

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{Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

09 Jul 2014 21:07:52
Hi ends am hearing that Sevilla may be interested in aspas if so do u think he could be used in a deal for moreno

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{Ed002's Note - Probably not.}

09 Jul 2014 20:57:35
Hey eds, rumours going around were trying to sign Bony any truth in this.

Thanks ed in advance, great site

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

10 Jul 2014 08:56:15
Hey there eds and reds,
With the imminent departure of count suarez, I think people who are concerned about we lose from the team should consider the following. While I know suarez is a genius and probably one of the best footballers (minus the antics) to play in a red shirt, there were times this season when we seemed over reliant on him.

When you have a player like that in your team, it tends to happen. So when suarez had a bad game, things didn't quite work, especially towards the end of the season. I have a feeling that suarez' departure could unify the team and we could see a more all round team performance. I believe that we'll most definitely cope without him and will surprise many people with how well we will cope.

On a side note, if I were to choose a player to add to our attack, it would most definitely be muller. He's young, a trojan worker, knows how to finish, how to pick out a pass and is highly underrated for some reason. Eds, would there be any chance we could lure him.away from bayern?

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Did Muller not just sign a new contract with Bayern this year?

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10 Jul 2014 01:57:03
Am I the only one that hopes we don't buy a new striker and invest elsewhere? I know sturridge has fitness concerns but we already have lambert Borini and aspas. Aspas, for me, could become a quality player for us if given a chance as a proper 9.

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I agree to an extent. I say we see till January. Personally I think we have good squad overall, we did finish second last season. I really do not want to see a complete squad overhaul. Some might say it might be too late in January, but I have faith we will be at least in the top four with our current squad even if we lose suarez and can make it into the knockout stages of the CL.

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Good ppst Tj. If we sell Aspas he'll need to be replaced. I'm not particularly fussed if he stays though!

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Can't say I completely agree TJ. I think so far Lallana is our only signing who would improve last year's first XI. Markovic and Can will both prove to do so over the next few years, but, this season I doubt they'll start too many games.
I thus believe we really need a new star to replace one of, if not the best player in the world. I don't mind if they're a winger, as I know BR prefers a 433, traditional striker or even a no.10, as long as they would dradtically improve thr first team going into the season, and preferrably they'll be willing to work as much as Suarez- which is why I'm absolutely gutted on the Sanchez front.
In an ideal world someone in Muller's mould, or even Marco Reus would be great, but realistically I think we could do worse than Gonzalo Higuain. Okay you mightn't get the workrate and creativity of Luis back, but you'd replace a great proportion of his goals and add to CL experience in the squad.

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Aspas is going, but I'm my sure he needs replacing. Borini, Sturridge and Lambert and then Origi is on loan and could be recalled in a crisis.

I think we are basically going 1 up front next season.

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Aspas played almost nothing last year. Lambert instead of him is an improvement we can use so it's like an extra player. Hasn't worked so let's let him go back to Spain.

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10 Jul 2014 01:41:17
I know I've been a bit negative lately mainly due to suarez being sold and the uninspiring names being linked

So thought i'd post something positive

Looking forward to seeing sturridge flourishing, coutinho getting even better along with sterling

Sakho will be a beast next season after a pretty decent first pl season

I think the markovic signing is exciting and i'm more happy after reading some quotes about him as I didn't know too much about him before, I also think can will be a shrewd signing

I think Lallana will hit the ground running and be in his peak form next season and i'm looking forward to seeig lambert get his first goal infront of the kop

Back in the CL can't wait! I also think lovren if he signs will be a solid player alongside sakho

But I do hope we get a top class left back like moreno rojo or rodriguez instead of bertrand or davies though I will support them if that's who they want but personally think johnson needs replacing more than the lb side as I was thrilled with flanagan last season

Also think mignolet will be more improved next season and prove his worth though I was reasonably happy with him last season anyways

Come Liverpool let's showed these lot we don't need suarez to win games bring it on!

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Nice to see some positivity amongst a lot of negativity. And I'm also excitied for Markovic, exciting talent.

As for the left back though, I don't see Moreno as currently being a top class LB, nor Rojo, who got a fair chunk of his gametime at CB for Sporting. Rodriguez had a brilliant season just gone at Wolfsburg, in an ideal world he'd be my choice. that's not to knock your opinion on these players as they're good players and would improve us.

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10 Jul 2014 00:35:06
Eds, I know people are saying we are (to quote the devil) "in for" Jackson Martinez, but is he with the £35m he's been price-tagged with? I mean, he didn't play at all in Colombia's final World Cup game (vs. Brazil), and wasn't a regular starter in the group stage games. Was he carrying an injury or anything?

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09 Jul 2014 22:45:26
Daily Mail reporting Liverpool are interested in Wilfred Bony and Ben Davies. Heard anything Eds? Are Swansea interested in any of our players willing to be sold?

Many Thanks.

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09 Jul 2014 22:14:02
Hi eds
Any truth in the rumours I heard tonight that we have offered €12m for Alexandre Pato?

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Hope not!

It'd be a bit like when Kaka left Milan.

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12 million euro's isn't actually too bad for Pato. I know he's had his injury troubles but he's still a good little player and is still fairly young too. Although, a quick peek at the internet shows a story about him struggling to agree terms with Inter as his wage demands are apparently quite high.

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09 Jul 2014 21:57:23
Evening Ed. Quick and easy question. Do you know if the lad Origi will go straight back out on loan as part of the deal?
JFT96

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09 Jul 2014 21:12:16
Eds, do you think Real Madrid will still come in for Sterling?

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10 Jul 2014 00:53:16
Looking at the German side in the WC, one thing strikes me is that they don't have any superstars,
no Messi, no Neymar, no Suarez, no Ronaldo - they
have very good players, but not any great great players. They are a very strong team, the coach is
strong and cleaver and that team is very strong together.

I'm geting a bit peeved with the post we need to replace Suarez, with Sanches or 'world class' players. Germany as a team are out shining Messi. We need to build our team with young hungry players. I'm much more excited about Stirling than Sanchez or Suarez.

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There are only a handful of players that come into the true bracket of world class, and you pretty much named them. Neymar still has some way to go for me yet, but he probably has the ability and potential to be there.

I think you've maybe been slightly harsh on the Germans there too.
Neuer - regarded as the best goalkeeper in the world currently.
Lahm - Best fullback around for along time now
Hummels - One of the best CBs about
Schweinsteiger - Not quite what he was, but easily a top quality CM
Kroos - Still young, but quickly being recognised as an absolute star, between him and Pogba you have the best 2 CMs within 2-5 years.
Muller - In the past couple of years he's been recognised as a top player, hugely underrated for a long time.
Ozil - top top player, you don't play for Real Madrid like he did and shine, lost his way a little lately but still good.
Klose - Ok, past his best, but still capable and does a reasonable job. Top ever world cup scorer, can't be a bad player to achieve that

Then you have the likes of Gotze, Draxler, Gundogan, Lars and Sven Bender, and Reus amongst others who are reasonably young and are top talents. Reus, Gotze and Draxler could easily be huge stars in the game. Arguably Reus and Gotze already have a star status among many. And I've no doubt I've missed a few names here such as Mustafi and Ginter who are rated in Germany.

Think you've been a bit harsh overall on your assessment of Germany, the only real difference between them and the nations the players you mentioned is that they play as a team and for each other rather than having one designated player they look to, thus making it far more difficult for opposition to deal with them.

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Lham is world class

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Lahm, Neuer and Kroos are undoubtedly World class. Müller, Khedeira, Hummels and Özil have a fair claim to being close to world class as well. I base this on their ability to walk into any team on earth. Lahm, Neuer and Kroos could and arguably so could the others.

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They have a few I would call world class however, I would say they have no superstars or massive egos that destabilise the team. So I kind of half agree with you there. If you watch Argentina in half of the games all they do is look to get the ball to messi, if messi is taken out the game then Argentina still won't pass the ball to anybody else. If Argentina had the same team ethic as Germany then they would be a lot more effective, they have some really good players that don't get a look in all game. Saying that, they are in the final haha. Swings and roundabouts really. I expect Liverpool to be a bit more about team ethic next year now our world class player is gone.

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10 Jul 2014 00:42:23
eds
shed load of rumours floating about that rogers after bony an davis from swansean . just paper talk or have we intrest in them.
thank you

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10 Jul 2014 00:34:10
Who has interest in the argentinian rojo?

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09 Jul 2014 23:33:36
A few papers claiming we're in for Greizmann, any truth or is it just putting 1 and 1 together to make 5?

Cheers Ed's

YNWA

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09 Jul 2014 23:16:45
Hi Eds
Not really a rumour but more of a question, we're do the bookies get there info from when setting odds for transfer betting, do they have any realistic insider knowledge? Obviously with football it's on form & horses it's form & a bit of inside info but always wondered we're they come up with their prices. It's just I seen Bony has gone from 6/1 to evens for Liverpool, but with no media links & nothing from you guys it just seemed to be plucked from thin air & wondered how they got evens on that?
Thanks in advance guys

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{Ed002's Note - Much of it is based on what is bet.}

10 Jul 2014 00:00:18
Not for kudos more for curiosity, I remember posting 4 years ago about my daughter being conceived lol.

Back then it was ozone, kidmillions, Harry scouser.who else where the names from the past?

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{Ed007's Note - Was there a video of the conception?}

Don't forget Blair!

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Must have been here 3 or 4 years now.

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{Ed007's Note - Blair was cool, he appreciated a bit of old-fashioned pi$$ ripping banter, a younger lad called Smithy and The Real KB were decent as well.}

Bob the red! His novel size posts were a good read

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10 Jul 2014 07:18:57
Boiled Onions and the OP (who used a differently worded but same sign-off) I can remember too.

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I've been posting here for 5 years now (no life lol). YNWA! (Adam), then YNWAdam and now this. I remember your post about your child being born for some reason. I suppose because it stood out amongst all the negativity that was about during those years.

How is your daughter anyway? Hope you're enjoying parenthood mate. I've got it all to come! Let me know if you make it out the other side!

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10 Jul 2014 07:52:47
The real KB, from whom I stole my sign-off.

Harry wasn't posting that far back. if he was, he was using another user name. But I think he was an Ajax fan back then ;)

Bob the Red, Macca, The Irish Rover, Tel1949, SmithyJFT96, Waro, Ozone, kidmillions, Blair Mayne, Chris in Tamworth are some that come to my mind.

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10 Jul 2014 08:54:35
Those names take me back a bit. I think I have been around for 6-7 years now makes me feel old.

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10 Jul 2014 09:20:23
Yeah I been here years too. We need to find Blair Mayne he took some stick that lad but I thought he was great. Mikey's and Kens posts I look out for. Although they know their stuff they throw some funny posts up here that rip my sides.

Waro, Macca, AG

How longs it been going now eds? Sure I've been on here for about 6 or 7 years now?

Love you all anyways. our little family

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"I think he was an Ajax fan back then"

Brilliant

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Ive been here for years but only started posting maybe a year ago? used to only read rumours.

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10 Jul 2014 13:07:45
Jeez time does go on doesn't it. sadly no video but at the time I was in Spain and remember posting that if said daughter was a lad the name Fernando may of been on the cards! Dodged a bullet there lol

She's fine bless her, although I'm now not with her mother and married to another ffiiiinnnneee lady.life eh!

All those names from the past.

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Blair mayne
steve parker.
jonson.
and
franky scouscer.

I don't post often, but have been loving this site for years.

ps. harry deserves a menton, his cryptic/nonsense has been second to no one, ever!

dbadger.

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Ahoy - still hear AG, just a bit of a self imposed exile when ED didn't post my Russell Hobbs £19.99 Argos to Everton jape breaking the sequence of 11 transfer windows.

Honestly think the summer is shaping up a treat Lallana is quality and personally I think Lambert can become a similar figure to Aldridge on the field based purely on his desire, career to date and pure pride in the shirt.

Bright times ahead and the club seems to be on the up - let's not forget how far we had fallen and some of the polished turds served our way over the past 20 years.

Paul Stewart, Rigobert Song, David Thompson, Leonardson, Redknapp, Cheyrou, Gonzalez, the list goes on & on.

Basically take a look at what we now have, how far we have come and how far we can go.

Also the smallest of the ONION clan (Shallot) will be making her first Anfield expedition for the Dortmund game.

BOILED ONIONS

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10 Jul 2014 16:00:41
theturdz is another.

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10 Jul 2014 00:30:15
Watched the 2nd semi final - then decided to channel hop - found myself on ssn; Biscan just sent off after Fowler missing a penalty; Hyppia gives away a soft penalty as Unsworth makes it 2 - 2 for Everton.

Vignal on the attack and is brought down, McAllister instructs Hyppia and every1 else to go to his right side for the ball into the box.

McAllister puts it in his left hand side of the Everton net for the win in 2000 - 2001 season - oh the memories :o)

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Igor Biscan = Quality!

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10 Jul 2014 00:23:03
It's not a bad job to be the German right back at the minute. The only problem is Depay

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10 Jul 2014 06:45:15
Cryptic?

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No. Craptic

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09 Jul 2014 23:33:06
Long time reader first time poster here.
Can't understand the negative comments from some posters. Yes we're loosing r star player but we're going to have a far stronger squad than last season when we finished 2nd and destroyed some good teams. With a few more additions me thinks we'll not be to far away. YNWA

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Agreed. I don't even care that much about the additions (promoted youngsters or newly signed - we're in good hands), as long as the current management and team keep up their work from where they left off (before the last 4 games or so where Henderson was missing and everyone was exhausted and suddenly under pressure). Amazing last season. As a team.

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Agreed boys we are in very good hands. All will be cool. Stay positive

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Totally agree. We are building a quality young squad that, as long as Rodgers sticks around, will not need overhauling every 2-3 years.

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09 Jul 2014 23:32:31
Ron Valaar and Mascherno two world class displays

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09 Jul 2014 23:02:55
Anyone know who was meant to be at melwood having a med apparently it was the young Belgium lad, but could it have been bony by any chance since we are favourites to sign him?

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Origi was at Melwood today but not for a medical. He was speaking to the gaffer but says he'll not make a decision yet as he has lots of offers on the table.

Lille have accepted an offer from us though and Origi said he'll make his decision within two weeks.

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Prince. So you mean he flew over just to say he hasn't made up his mind yet? Makes much sense?

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He's a kid and from what I heard his parents were with him, probably checking things out. Can't fault them for wanting to take their time.

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I think he flew out to Melwood to talk to people, including the gaffer which would help him make a decision.

He certainly didn't hop on a plane (or train) just to pop his head round the door and say "Still not sure yet mate, but I'll keep you posted".

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I disagree, it's like kids checking out universities - you take your parents and go and see all your favourites.

It doesn't mean he's made a decision yet.

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