Liverpool Banter Archive July 10 2013

10 Jul 2013 23:45:53
Liverpool have submitted a bid at 15m for BRAZILIAN wizard Kid,
Bernard.
Would be a great signing.
Inter milan and porto are also interested in him.
Coutinho Bernard and Alberto can't go wrong with them 3.

Coutinho is excellent! Bernard could be good in a few years but wouldn't get into a top club. Alberto won't make it at Liverpool.

Now now you know that's not true

What's your source? Dortmund had a bid of 20m rejected so I doubt 15m is enough!

He put the bid in himself on Fifa.
Carlo

This Brazilian wizard kid Bernard, did he go to the same school as Harry Potter?

MUSHROOM

10 Jul 2013 23:10:19
Liverpool looking at bids for Bernard & Richards.
Gav the Red

Really? Bids for a new french watch?

skiSunday

10 Jul 2013 23:05:25
We pay 7m for Alberto and Everton get Delefou for nothing! Delefou is a far superior player. Well done Everton.

We get alberto to keep Everton don't? Are u honestly comparing a loan and a transfer now?

On loan lad; LOAN

10 Jul 2013 23:39:15
Haha, they got him on a LOAN.
Superior player? I take it you watch barca B? Nonsense.

He's on loan for one year, so they haven't got him for free. He's still Barcelona's player.

Alberto provided most of the assists to deulofeu anyway. Just calm yourself.

Sorry but still Delefou is much better than Alberto. However as it is a loan, who knows, Delefou may like the city and decide to move permanently if you know what I mean.

11 Jul 2013 05:53:36
Sorry, delfo is NOT better. At all actually.

Lfc fans never just hold their hands up and say you know Everton got a better deal there. Always have to go on as if our players, without seeing them I might add as world beaters. Take the rose tinted specs off please.

11 Jul 2013 10:14:59
He is on loan and as Ed002 has been telling you, he was not available for sale and I suspect he won't be for a while yet; unless he turns out like Bojan.

Deulofeu better than Alberto? How did you judge that. Here is the thing bitter blue, finally you have something to talk about this summer, after signing 3 greaaaat Wigan players and a Barca youngster on loan. And that's it.

The real AG

10 Jul 2013 22:56:22
Hi Ed.

I see Higuian to Arsenal has hit a stumbling block. I have seen you are not giving much away. Is this because he is going to be offered to Liverpool or Spurs for Suarez or Bale?

Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Try the Arsenal page.}

10 Jul 2013 22:37:05
Just let this walk around in your mind a bit:

A LFC has the following statements:

1. We are a mid table team, signing mid table players. ( Because we signed Aspas, Alberto and look to Ilori and Jorginho ).

2. We should sign players like Wanyama. ( Who signes for Southampton ).

3. After Wanyama signes for SOUTHAMPTON! The same fans talk about we missed out and so on.

So the logic is?

We should not sign players that is linked with the bigger teams as Squad player. But we should sign players that sign for mid table teams. And this would make BR and FSG willing and LFC a top 4 contender?


Same last time but then it was Couthinho/Sturridge and the "marquee" signing people wanted was Gaston Ramirez. Hmmmm.
Yup, looks like the fans knows best right?!

Pffft.

Hallelujah I'm not the only one with a brain!

Wow one example eh? Aren't you the next scout. Liverpool fans went on and on and on about Aguero being the marquee signing we'd craved for years and he signed for City. Look how he turned out, guess your theory is correct :-|. Nonsense more like.

10 Jul 2013 22:17:11
Just like to say, all these people writing the season off already and prejudging the new signings before they have kicked a ball, need to give the team a chance.
We could slip under the radar this year and if we are still in touching distance of top 4 come january then we will have a great chance.
We have finally started the season with a settled manager building his team and playing his way.
Why sack BR after sacking Benitez, Hodgson and Dalglish. Changing managers doesn't work for us. The last time we had success Rafa was given time to build a team, bring his players in and complete a cycle of squad overhaul to his own team and we very nearly won the league.
The end of last season we played some of the best football I have seen by any team, not just LFC, we signed some fantastic players and have some more great prospects coming through.
Give BR time and in 18 months - 2 years I think we all will be pleasantly suprised.
There are too many teams now who can outbid us for players and 'buy' success. PSG, Monaco, Anzhi, City, Chelsea, not to mention the spending power of Bayern, Real, Barca, United.
We need to build a team of quality, loyal, grounded players and it looks like we are on the way to having that.
Henderson, Lucas, Allen, Borini, Coutiniho, Kelly are all players who play for pride, not money and greed.
If Suarez wants to go let him go, we can replace him with 2 or 3 team players and improve the overall squad.
YNWA

Your right we could slip under the radar or we could be absolutely useless. I'm in favour of the latter at this stage because proven players are likely to succeed. It's not relativity, it's just common sense.

Mate its the Liverpool way now. Spew the vitriol against our current players, spew vitriol against our new signings, spew vitriol against the clubs owner's who saved us from administration and championship football, and whinge and whine about missing out on every player that signs for another club. Get with the times buddy, this is the new Liverpool way!

10 Jul 2013 21:56:07
The vast majority of posts on this site now are people asking the editors whether there is much chance of Liverpool signing a player, and the editors saying no. It's become a huge game of guess who. Can't the editors just say who they think has a reasonable prospect of signing so we don't have to guess?!?

P.S. What are the chances of Michu.

Eddie C {Ed052's Note - We answer enough questions so that you know where interest lies. At the minute, Ilori is the one and 'main' focus. And no, there isn't}

Are we getting closer to signing Llori ed? {Ed052's Note - Money is the problem.}

10 Jul 2013 21:36:51
Eds never seen him play but you've got to admit that Bernard looks good on you tube. {Ed052's Note - I have seen him play, and he is just good [FULLSTOP]}

Do you think we 'll bid for him ed? We've been interested in the past? Thanks Jed {Ed052's Note - We haven't had interest since before BR. it is possible, I guess, but unlikely. The main, strong and most reasonable rumours (although UNCONFIRMED) are of Jorginho.}

I hope not, jorginho loos like peanuts compared to this guys skills and finishing

I wouldn't complain if we paid 20m for him. Bernard is that good

10 Jul 2013 21:05:20
Can some one explain to me how we lost out on all these players?
We bid an amount for mickey that the club thought enough or valued him at, we didn't bid what his team wanted, the Germans did, simples, nothing to do wiv losing out.
Dempsey last year, again wouldn't bid the required amount.
Sigurdson, pure greed for higher wages.
This why we have scouts watching different options, no team will get every target, especially now there so many teams willing to splash so much on wages.

Have patience and c what happens, FSG have proven they are willing to put up the cash, just not held to ransom, isn't that what most were complaining about when we did over pay? {Ed052's Note - here here}

Thank God, sanity.

Couldn't agree more. How one can be classified as 'losing out' when they didn't have a bid accepted is beyond me.

10 Jul 2013 20:59:05
eds why do I see people on here talking about us getting lamela. There has been no link on any lying website like and I really doubt he would leave roma for Liverpool, is there any reason for us to be linked with him eds, has there been any intrest? {Ed052's Note - No, nothing mate, and his ownership issues have put many people off. Its fantasy football.}

10 Jul 2013 18:12:30
Ed052, I was wondering why you would prefer LS be sold to a premier league club? {Ed052's Note - Firstly, it keep shim in the limelight and instead of Liverpool being laughed at means another team will be laughed at. And it also shows how disrespectful he is, by lying to us (press) - so he'll be easier to get over. But by the fact he stays in the league will mean we continue to get all the LS coverage - his interviews etc, which can be comical - just not for Liverpool fans.(At the minute). So basically, its for light entertainment - obviously not racism, that's digusting and despicable, but his statements, such as not being loved by Liverpool etc.) A bit sick and twisted I guess lol.}

More likely that Luis will score a sublime hat trick for table topping Chelsea while were losing at WBA.
You will still be happy then, he's still in the Premier? {Ed052's Note - Chelsea will win the league with or without Luis. And if you look at how we play with Luis and without, we play better, score more, pass more, and get more points.}

I don't see why it matters where he goes. Let's say Arsenal get Higuain instead of Suarez. Are they any less of a threat than they would have been if they had bought him? Not at all.

Major difference is if they buy Suarez instead of Higuain (as an example) then they will have to listen to him getting booed everywhere in England, deal with whatever stupid antic he gets up to next, watch him dive to the ground constantly, take hundreds of shots of which 90% will be well off target, and watch him attempt to nutmeg every defender in the Premier League and pull of two of them. Yes some of his play is brilliant, but much of it is very wasteful and he is not (in my opinion) an ideal pass-and-move footballer. Oh, and and they can also watch him sit on the sidelines for 10-15% of their games next season.

Torres never scored against us but my god Luis suarez would rip us apart celebrate and break our hearts

{Ed052's Note - Chelsea will win the league with or without Luis. And if you look at how we play with Luis and without, we play better, score more, pass more, and get more points.}

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Thats absolute nonsense . what are you basing this on, the one game against Newcastle or the 3 we scored against end of season Fulham team, or is it that simpleton post about effective strikers that had no shred of evidence and a lot of made up rubbish
I care very little if he stays or goes, if he does leave (and I hope he does) we will need to replace him with the same calibre otherwise we will struggle, and those double layered tinted glasses that most of you wear won't help us .
Next summer it will be Coutinho 's turn, wonder what you lot will post about him then
Roy {Ed052's Note - we've played a lot of games without LS is the last two years, and, pass better, have more movement, score more, threaten more. I'm not basing it on 2 games, but the 20 or so he has missed. }

11 Jul 2013 10:14:03
Why are we worried?. Suarez wants to go because we are not in CL. and for a player like him, why should he remain with us because the fans like him?

we get the money and move on exactly what we did with torres. but the reality is. we haven't moved an inch after.

Most of the player left Liverpool have won something or the other.

Actually we are responsible for lusi suarez departure. we are not in Top 4. neither he nor his agent and honeslty none of us see us fighitng fot title in next 5 years with the player we have got.

Speak for yourself, I fully and honestly believe we will be challenging for the biggest honours in less than 3 years! You ray of sunshine you harry.

The only reds

10 Jul 2013 16:58:41
rumours apparently emitting from Brazil is thst we want Pato for 15mil. Any truth eds? Keep up the good work.

Carlito {Ed052's Note - I cannot see it. He is overhyped, overrated and injured, almost all the time. If you though Aurelio was bad, then think again.}

Nice one ed. Still chuckling. {Ed052's Note - Im glad. I'm not quite the rodeo clown that Ed002 is, but I try!}

I'm actually torn by this. When I first started watching soccer, I was a Milan fan because of Pato. He was my favorite player. He just got hurt and fell of constantly. Then, I started watching the premier league. Milan sold all their good players, and I wanted to get into the EPL because it was so much more exciting. I watched all the teams, and I was drawn to Liverpool by "You'll Never Walk Alone." At first, I thought it was cheesy, but after watching each game, I fell in love with the club. Back to my Pato point. It would've been awesome to see Pato playing for Liverpool, but I understand where all of you are coming from.

10 Jul 2013 20:39:27
Lot of folks seem unhappy Suso has been loaned outside England. I feel it's good move for Suso, as Almeria, who are in the La Liga next season will provide him with an excellent opportunity.

It is now upto Suso to pull up his socks and show what he is capable of, unlike Pacheco, as he is most likely going to start a majority of games there.

If here were to be loaned out to Swansea for example, he would have been a squad player, while if he was loaned to the Championship, the chances of being used regularly would again have been less.

The Spanish league is the ideal place for him to develop.

The real AG

Coutinho's loan spell at Espanyol worked out well enough.

10 Jul 2013 20:33:35
2.) Can Liverpool enquire about players on deadline day that may not have been targets?

REDHEAD {Ed002's Note - Of course but if they don't want to buy them why bother?}

Liverpool seem to have really done their homework over the last season. I reckon there's a list in place for potential targets for virtually every conceivable scenario already.

10 Jul 2013 19:56:29
Hey eds :)

After missing out on Miki do any of you know who we may have an interest in instead?

Not really heard of us linked with anyone similar other than Erikson.

Keep up the good work

Cheers

Mart

10 Jul 2013 19:49:53
Idea of depth, ship out everyone on loan or sell. Ideal!

Red said fred

10 Jul 2013 19:42:39
my mate reckons he has hear henderson is nxt vice captain

If Agger goes, maybe. Could definitely see him as captain in a few years.

10 Jul 2013 19:10:44
Ed's, this is highly unlikely and very hypothetical. But if Chelsea offered us a player plus cash in the form of lukaku or mata, which would you prefer. Marat would add some much needed quality to the right flank and create many opportunities, but lukaku is young and a goal scorer, something we will need. Just wanted your thoughts {Ed002's Note - Try the fantasy football page.}

10 Jul 2013 18:41:00
Hello Eds,
I would like to ask a few questions
1. Expecting any Real Madrid or Bayern bids for Suarez?
I can't believe I am saying this but kind of wish RM come up with an 40 million pounds bid and we accept it and just get it over with.

2. With the expected sale of Suarez (40m), Downing (atleast 7m) and a few others could you see us going for atleast 2 if not 3 top signings?
By top I mean 15-20 million signings.

3. Do you reckon it is increasingly likely that the only change in our defence from now till end of the window is likely to be Illori to replace Coates and possibly a back-up LB? {Ed002's Note - (1) Yes. (2) "Top" is a subjective term and I remain astonished that there are Liverpool fans who don't care who signs as long as the cost a lot of money. (3) I have explained that if Agger or Skrtel leave they will likely be replaced.}

Don't get this mentality - do we have to bid over £20m for 'top' players to placate people? Are these the same people who are crying for us to sign Michu (cost Swansea £2.5m) or Benteke (£7m) - had we have signed those players last summer 'fans' would have been up in arms about our lack of ambition!

Surely we should seek to sign players we think will fit into the system not just because they are seen as 'marquee' - think the last signing like that was Joe Cole, and look how that turned out! (was sooo happy when he signed too!)

Look guys, i'll continue to support the team regardless and take the ups and downs but I just put my faith in the fact that i'm sure the coaching staff, scouts etc know more about this sort of thing than I do lol Just because I know nothing about a player doesn't mean he's not going to be a superstar

Swallybean

10 Jul 2013 18:03:38
Hi eds hope all is well, haven't posted for a while but this is more of a question, sorry as I know it's a rumours site and not a question asking one. But how highly regarded is suso at the club? Does Rodgers rate his as well as all the fans because I don't want him to get fed up due to lack of playing time and wanting to, leave as it would be a real shame. Also I don't think we should sign erikson due to him setting his heart on another club and as soon as they came in for him he would be sure to leave. Anyways any reply always appreciated, keep up the good work!

Ben {Ed002's Note - Much is expected of Suso. I don't know what Rodgers feels about him but I think he will at the end of the coming season be questioning the club about their intentions.}

10 Jul 2013 19:17:05
Watching Dortmund - Basel game. Never seen Mkhitaryan before. he assisted for the first goal and scored the second. Looks like a box-to-box type of a player.

Good luck to him good player very good team champion league finalist last season second in the league to a world class Munich team who could blame him

10 Jul 2013 19:10:19
Mkhitaryan is having a blinder for Dortmund against Basel in a friendly, a goal and an assist already. For the people who doubted his ability, watch. Good scouting by Liverpool I say for Dortmund!
Anyone else feel sick?

Indy Kevin

Have they won the Champions League in that FRIENDLY?

I remember Andrey Voronin having a brilliant pre season for us a couple of years back! Hahah

He was identified as a good player by r scouting team but we couldn't get him in let's forget about him.Tommy Irish Red

10 Jul 2013 18:49:53
20million for bernard.who is not in the brazil squad. Spurs pay 17million for paulinho who is. Have we got loads of money or are we taken for mugs

You obviously know nothing about either player. Bernard is going to be world class and he's only 20. Paulinho is average at best and has got to be knocking 25. If Liverpool were lucky enough to buy Bernard we'd be laughing. Bernard, Coutinho, Sterling, Henderson. There all going to be awesome in the next couple of year

Bernard came off the bench vs England and was in confeds cup.

They play different positions and Paulinho is a lot older.

10 Jul 2013 19:58:54
Wasn't in the Brazil squad? Nonsense! He was so & played a couple of games as a sub.
20 million euros is his buy out clause.
You are the mug.

Paulinho is 23 and a very good player. Knocking him down because he didn't sign for Liverpool shows your ignorance. But Bernard was in the Brazil squad so to the op you should really use your brain!

Liverpool didn't want to sign him dude

We're after Bernard who played on the right wing off the bench for Confederations Cup champs Brazil.

the same Bernard that Spurs, Chelsea are after

10 Jul 2013 18:24:48
Evening eds, you must be worn out answering all these intelligent questions or listening to all the premiership standard managerial statements you get on here don't know how you do it. lol Honestly though here's my question do you think we'll get a decent pint and a sandwich for a tender this season?

{Ed002's Note - I would welcome posters having banter about which team has the best pies. Folks don't just want information, they want predictions, that is what is so hard. There is little point in me blurting out predications like Suarez will move to Real Madrid, Negredo to Manchester City, Jovetic to Manchester City, Yilmaz and Hernanes to Chelsea; that Barcelona will chase Aguero and that Real Madrid will sell Ronaldo to fund a bid for Bale that includes Modric; and the big news that will soon break - David Beckham to be the new James Bond.}

10 Jul 2013 18:17:00
Everton sign Deulofeu on loan from Barca! Wow, can't help but think that's going to be a great signing for them. Would be interested to know if we tried to get him.

ChrisE

I thought we signed enough 'reserve players' as someone suggested earlier.
Rodgers can't win, can he?!
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Sack Rodgers and get Mourinho in eh?
He always gets who he wants, like Ruddy, no wait I mean Schwartzer, sorry.
Who cares about who we didn't sign, but good luck to Everton this season so long as we finish above them.

Mate he didn't say anything bad why are you having a go about it?

Jeez man chill the fudge out!

10 Jul 2013 18:14:30
Re Jorginho rumours ;
anybody else see another Aquilani situation?

Have a look on compare.com.

Why? Just because he's an Italian midfielder? He has no injury issues and we'd be unlikely to put him on 90K/week!

He's another Aquilani because he'd cost a third of the price? OKay.

10 Jul 2013 18:00:48
Hi Eds, been following the site for about 3 years now from Dubai and I want to start off by saying you guys are doing a great job!

I had the privilege of visiting Anfield for the first time to watch the Chelsea game.

I have to admit that I was one of the biggest fanboys when it came to Suarez and I'm still in shock that he would consider a move to another EPL side. At this stage, I would still love to have him at the club (purely for his playing ability even though he has acted like a DF) but wouldn't care if he left. BR knows best and I have full faith in his project and only Brendan can and will make the right decision by keeping/selling Suarez.

Again, great job eds and I am one of the optimistic fans that would like to see Liverpool regain their place between the elite clubs and I am happy that we are not buying success.

YNWA

10 Jul 2013 17:28:24
Rodgers to get sacked first is 40/1 must be worth a tenner with all these reserve team players arriving.

I think our reserve team are good enough to win the lot. So no money from me.

10 Jul 2013 18:00:34
What an example of a "great supporter" you are.
Embarrassing.com or maybe trolling.net!

Hmm . or Martinez what with all the Wigan players you're ( sorry, they're ) signing. On your way Troll

First season for 5 years we start the season with the same manager. We haven't gone down this route to bail out at the first sign of trouble (although second half of last season was very good). He's here for his full 3 years minimum. I think we have a chance (no more) of 4th this season and expect the season after to be when Rodgers has his team and we can make a judgement. After 23 years fans have to be patient. Look what chopping and changing did for us - that, combined with other clubs massive investment, dropped us a level below CL. No quick fixes lads and anyone who says otherwise is kidding the self.

Kidder

Is that you Disney?

Puzzled

Are reserves are better than your first team

It's not me mate. But I do expect BR to be sacked this time next season.

Disney!

10 Jul 2013 20:51:55
Well I am 100% sure Moyes has a bigger chance of getting the sack than BR, you Manc.

10 Jul 2013 17:23:32
Suso being loaned out to Almeria. So glad we aren't considering selling him. I speak for a lot of Liverpool fans who think he's going to be awesome. Just needs games, great call BR. Would have preferred him to join a prem club for league experience though.

A waste of a season sending him to Spain, exactly what is the point?

Was half hoping he'd stay and get some game time with us this season, but probably a good call by Brendan. Give him the opportunity for some real, consistent 1st team action and have a more experienced player back for next. Good luck Suso.

Stupid idea in my opinion, I agree with the loan but not to them, no disrespect intended, but a move to a newly promoted PL team or PL strugglers would be much better. Learning the league would be better for him and for us to develope

I personally think he could have made a big impact on our team this season.

Yeah what possible experience can he gain in one of best leagues agenst arguably the best players in the world.
its not like we sent him to mold or the mls .

10 Jul 2013 20:21:32
Eh its so nonsense talk. Physiclaity this and that is complete nonsense and a myth. He will be playing Barca, Madrid, Valencia, Atletico, Bilbao, Villareal etc.
Great loan move!

I'm glad suso is going on loan to Spain. First team football in a country that plays like us. A premiership or championship wouldn't of been worthwhile except for swansea or brighten when poyet was in charge.

1st time poster,

Personally I'm delighted Suso is going on loan to La Liga, he will get regular 1st team football in one of the best leagues in the world, I know fellow posters would prefer him to get a loan spell at one of the epl teams. to get use to the physicality, but Suso is not afraid to get stuck in and never shys away from a tackle, I think it will benefit him greatly, it done wonders for Couthino.

Bobby-d

10 Jul 2013 17:15:52
If FSG sell suarez to a PL club it just shows how pathetic they are in the transfer market. They would sell to a rival and make them stronger it just shows they have little to no ambition.

You presume it would make them stronger. Arguably one could say that the money received from Suarez's sale would make us stronger and that him moving to Arsenal/City/Chelsea/etc will a) cost them a good deal of money tha they won't be able to spend on other targets and b) they'll have a player on their hands that won't being playing for the first month or so of the season.

Hope they don't sell him to a PL rival especially Arsenal. I don't care if its called good business and makes a fortune. It would be an insane move on FSG's part, we wouldn't have a hope of 4th spot for the next couple of years, wheres good business sense in that.

Chet

We sold Torres to a prem rival and that didn't work out so well for them i'm sure whatever is decided will be for the benefit of the club. Ie if Chelsea is willing to pay 20 million more than Real and that means we have more money then so be it remember Liverpool is our love but it is their business and sometimes love can blind logic.

Kopping a feel

There is no argument, of course he will make sides stronger! He's in the top 5 players in the world, agree completely with the first poster. How can BR and the likes say we're aiming for top 4 when we sell our best players to our rivals? And also I'd refuse to sell him to another PL team as he said its the English press that is driving him out. Another striker who could have been a legend, but greed got in the way!

Yeh like Van Persie didn't make United stronger. Worst reply I've ever read on this site. Of course he will make ANY team stronger he's one of the best players in the world

I can't envision a scenario where one of 'the best players in the world' would be so publicly interested in a move elsewhere and everyone with half a brain knows about how much money that would take (and it's a fairly reasonable amount) and no one has really moved for them (Arsenal bargain hunting aside).

I really do believe he's a very good player but I don't think (and it's my opinion, feel free to disagree as I'm sure many of you will) he's near being 'one of the best in the world'.

Lets see how he improves the side he moves to from the stand after receiving his season long ban for running up to a random player, calling them by a racist name, biting the ref on the arse, taking off his football boot and bludgeoning the guy sat in the third row second seat to the left to death with it.

But of course that will be the media misinterpreting what is actually a Uruguayan dance of peace and tollerance.

10 Jul 2013 16:57:20
Cavani: " I can tell you his (Suarez) love for Liverpool is real. If they were in the champions league, he wouldn't consider leaving. But he is at that stage in his career where he needs to be playing at the top level."

Think he owes the club one more season. Even if he does leave, I'll still be a fan. Can understand wanting to leave, much as I don't want em too.

TjRed

Translation of the translation- he wants lots of money. Many clubs play in the CL (like say Ajax for example)- does this mean he would go back there? I rather suspect not. Get tired of hearing players say how important CL is to them when, to me, what they really want is higher wages.

Well maybe he should of come out two months ago with this instead of a load of bollox about the media!

He is ill advised, stupid and very naïve.

Markolfc

Thank you so much for taking a reasonable point of view. Yes he has brought the criticism on himself, but the press give him far too hard a time.

Suarez is history man, just hope FSG will only accept top dollar for him and reinvest it all in the squad, otherwise I give don't a rats ass where the rat skulks off to.

10 Jul 2013 20:17:45
I ain't bothered about him wanting to leave but its how he's going about it!

10 Jul 2013 16:38:44
Hi Eds, it was reported that Galatasaray was willing to sell Sneijder for less than 10 mills about a month ago. As we have missed out on HM and we are looking for a goalscoring midfielder, do you think or is there any news that we may be interested on him? {Ed052's Note - Not Sneijder again....}

Seriously, Sneijder? What is going on with this site.

Oh my god no not again!

10 Jul 2013 17:29:37
Does the fact that such an apparently high-quality player went to Galatasary in the first place and now they want rid not suggest that there's something wrong with Sneijder (ie. not playing as well as used to, too high wages etc.) to you?

10 Jul 2013 17:29:52
*sigh*

Sneijder again

What next, Aguero?

Alvy

What's that, Neymar I hear? Done deal.

Ken is back!

And the David Villa to Athletico is only a smoke screen!

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Legendary!

Markolfc

Aguero is signing for us?
Yessss!

10 Jul 2013 16:21:46
We are finished in this Summers transfer market unless we can sell some of our players, also expect a net transfer spend of zero or an overall profit from sales.

Odie {Ed052's Note - We're nowhere near finished, even if we sold no one}

10 Jul 2013 17:11:21
You couldn't make up nonsense like this even if you believed it yourself :S

We still have more average players to come in.

10 Jul 2013 18:54:49
Do you honestly feel this?
Mignolet & Toure are well above average.
Aspas's & Alberto's stats from last season suggest they are not average at all. I guess we will have to wait and see, but at least give them a chance.
You probably said the same about Sturridge & Coutinho and were proven wrong. That's why you don't sign.

The only REDS

Eds I fully understand you cannot predict transfers but do you feel we will sign 2 or 3 more or say 4 or 5? I can't see how with so many outgoings that we will not sign around another 4/5 additions. There seem to be big changes at the club (and other clubs) and I'm looking forward to see what BR does. {Ed052's Note - I can see 3, maybe 4 more signings. But having said that, it could be 2. I can positively say I expect at least 2 though.}

Who else are we buying then eds sounds like you know more than you put on replies {Ed052's Note - I wish I did mate - but I tell you everything I know. I expect a CB (maybe 2) and a CAM. After that, a winger, LB and CDM would be the next priorities I feel (in that order).}

10 Jul 2013 16:19:23
its time we (lfc) got seriously mean with these other premiership clubs spurs chelsea and arsenal every player we inquire about spurs stick their orr inn. chelsea want to buy anyone half decent we have lately if they want suarez put another 10m on top of what we would take they chelsea nearly got gerrard ffs . I think we could replace suarez with (michu or long ) or both and also we stuck by suarez threw tick and tinn and he repaid us the minute he went back to south america .

dannybhoy

As an Arsenal fan, I feel your pain brother. RVP spent 7 years on the injury table, has one amazing season and repays us for our loyalty to him by running off to United of all teams.

Liverpool are a big club and you guys will rebound.

Trinidad-Gooner

We just need to get rid now, hopefully for somewhere close to the £40m that's been banded about, so we have the time and can use the money this transfer window, Chelsea, Arsenal, Real, whoever, imo. Shane Long? 26 years old 66 appearances over the last 2 seasons(admittedly for West Brom), 16 goals, 6 assists, substituted 17 times last season, I'm sorry but, not good enough. Michu, better shout, but 27 and Swansea would undoubtedly be looking at £20m+ for him, I think the money would be better spent elsewhere.

Bruce, will you please go to Melwood and kick Suarez's a$$?
Just watch out for his choppers pal, very sharp!
Your nung chuks should counter them well though.
Be like water my friend.

Long as a replacement for Suarez?. are you serious ffs?

10 Jul 2013 16:12:29
Hi Eds,
I understand the excitement about Suarez and his transfer this summer but I don`t understand why people keep on linking him with other EPL clubs like ManCity, Arsenal or Chelsea. Does any of Eds think he`ll stay in EPL but he`ll change the shirt? If he goes, he`ll go abroad. That would be good for the club and the player himself. Any thoughts Eds? thanks. {Ed052's Note - I can see him staying in the EPL, yes}

I've never thought he's going to end up in Madrid. I think he'll join PSG/Chelsea

Who is your gut feeling he will end up at Ed052?Mines Arsenal unfortunately. Certainly think he will head south unless Real come in personally(Which I doubt they will untill late if at all)

I don't know why people are up in arms and surprised look how he has left every club.

Starting to think the bite was pre meditated as he knew that's when people at Ajax thought it was time to go.

Any answer would be appreciated mate

PK {Ed052's Note - I have no clue where he will end up. I think Arsenal is possible, as I guess is Chelsea - but I'm not sure if they have interest - but his agent spoke to them. RM is still possible, although I believe Ancelloti is unsure about him - but will he make the choices on signings - I doubt it.}

10 Jul 2013 16:11:12
Why do we have to sell to buy now? Was there no transfer kitty for next season?
We have already gained 25 -28 million in player sales which we have spent on the new players.
Are the owners not going to put a dime extra in funds for new season and still think we will make progress?

Rambowich {Ed052's Note - We don't have to sell to buy - yet}

Pretty sure we bought the 4 already and bid close to 20 million for mickey b4 a single sale.
Wish people on here would learn to read and then take in what they have read.

Lifelongred

The owners have put many, many dimes into the club already. FSG are composed of reasonably wealthy investors but they are not the near bottomless pits of it which are available to the likes of Chelsea or City.

10 Jul 2013 15:59:41
Ed. This one you will have an answer.
If we don't sell suarez. do we have money to buy players.?. {Ed052's Note - I don't have to answer any question Harry. Of course we do, we bid for Mickey, and are negotiating for Ilori}

10 Jul 2013 15:50:59
Do we have any interest in Victor Moses. Seems a good deal at 8 million?

Indian Red {Ed052's Note - NO}

10 Jul 2013 15:40:12
hi ed's, will suarez be sold to a premier league club if the price is right thanks,, mehol,, {Ed052's Note - Of course, its possible, and my favoured option}

Why would that be your preference? Just curious. thanks {Ed052's Note - Firstly, it keep shim in the limelight and instead of Liverpool being laughed at means another team will be laughed at. And it also shows how disrespectful he is, by lying to us (press) - so he'll be easier to get over. But by the fact he stays in the league will mean we continue to get all the LS coverage - his interviews etc, which can be comical - just not for Liverpool fans.}

Why's that ed? {Ed052's Note - Someone else has asked me this mate, so excuse me for C&P'ing that answer. Firstly, it keep shim in the limelight and instead of Liverpool being laughed at means another team will be laughed at. And it also shows how disrespectful he is, by lying to us (press) - so he'll be easier to get over. But by the fact he stays in the league will mean we continue to get all the LS coverage - his interviews etc, which can be comical - just not for Liverpool fans.}

Ed52 just interested to why that's your favourite option? You're probably the most honest Ed so quite interested to what your opinion is in this situation! {Ed052's Note - I have had this question a couple of times mate, so the answer will be just below, or above.}

10 Jul 2013 15:21:21
hey everyone.
just read ed`s post on the man u page, about the abuse they all have to suffer from some so called man u fans.
its a fantastic reminder to everyone on this Liverpool page, how lucky we are to have their knowledge and opinions.
I found this site about 5 years ago and have been addicted ever since.
so I thought its about I`d register and sign up correctly.
you all do an amazing job ed`s.
bring on next season eh.
only my opinion.

dbadger. {Ed052's Note - Thanks very much mate}

10 Jul 2013 15:03:37
If and only If Arsenal do get Suarez and Higuain which is still a possibility, .
carzola giroud saurez higuain and walcott.
thats more than enough to get 70 points for another 3 years.
forget CL. {Ed052's Note - They wont sign both Hig and Luis}

10 Jul 2013 15:34:15
ED052. Optmism?. or probably is that your wish?.
great job mate {Ed052's Note - No, I just know they wont be buying both}

As an Arsenal fan, I would have to agree with Ed052. I think it's one or the other, and I would prefer Higuain.

don't get me wrong, Suarez is amazing but his attitude is worrisome for me.

Trinidad-Gooner

10 Jul 2013 14:57:57
Wow, nice one FANS. Downing wants to fight to play for LFC, wants to do well in our team and he gets treated like Suarez, someone who doesn't want to play for LFC and couldn't give a F.
He has improved so much under BR. He is an International player who wants to give and be part of competition for a place in the starting line up, not happy to sit on the bench and collect a wage.
Its persons like Commoli and Dalglish who agreed to pay £20m for him, he didn't set the fee.
I've seen him play at Anfield and away, not just from my armchair. This guy tries and is proud to play for LFC and you just want rid. Like Allen and Henderson, who'll also slug their guts out over 90 minutes everytime their called on.
Way to get behind our players, well done you must all be so proud. YNWA and all that, congrats you're great supporters of the team.
Carlo

We're all entitled to our opinions Carlo that's what banter is all about. I don't think he's good enough for us. Where was Downing's effort and fight until he was told look for a new club in November? He started running himself into the ground then and his effort brought about improved performances. He hadn't being doing well up until then but he hadn't been busting a gut either and that's not acceptable. Imo he was coasting by hoping not to get noticed. Anyway I still don't think he offers enough of a threat for what he is - I see him as dispensable to the squad, £7m which can go towards other players/positions, big wages off our bench and more players like Sterling/Ibe/Alberto getting chances instead of him.

10 Jul 2013 15:50:19
Carlo.

Sir, I respect your emotions. But look at the braoder picture. that's not the way to run a business or club.

Thats all fair enough and its good to see players wanting to stay and fight. But if he's not good enough then he's just not good enough. I think he is good as a squad player but not a first teamer.
Also, and I may be wrong but surely he is happy to stay with us because of his wages? Which I doubt he would get as much if he moved to west ham or somewhere? Jdog

I will always support players if they try, but sadly downing isn't good enough and we need to do better to get top 4

Anonymous woolback

Great Post
The Lad works Hard and as you seay is proud to play for Liverpool Suarez is a poor excuse for a human being and that is abusing the word poor

K.O.B

Do you not remember Eric Meyer. Great attitude, run through a brick wall. Awful player.
Downing is not awful but he ain't good enough mate.

I've always thought, and still think, Downing is a quite decent winger. That said, our system doesn't seem to really use wingers per se so I think it's more of a poor fit in some ways than him being a poor player. I foresee a similar issue with Sterling although perhaps he's young enough to adapt to being more of a wide forward rather than a winger.

10 Jul 2013 14:47:31
Would love to see LFC sign Shane Long regardless of outs and ins. He is a quality proven striker that would definately do a job and link up well with our current team. Shouldn't be too pricey, any chance?

10 Jul 2013 17:38:30
Having watched Long for a long (lol) time, I'm fairly sure Sturridge would keep him on the bench. Given WBA would look for well over £10m for him, I don't see the point.

Why? Just why?
He's ok but not a top player.

10 Jul 2013 14:43:49
we have to sell to buy now. Downing, Coates and Henderson ALL available and expected combined income generated in the region of 22m which will be re-invested. Suarez will not join another PL team. If he stays with us and the above 3 are not shifted, our business will be concluded until January. The pot is empty.

The pots not empty lol what were we going to buy MH with tea leaves? We have spend 3m so far dude we still have about 20m left

10 Jul 2013 15:52:45
Excellent. Finally an unnamed poster got the point.
we don't have money. we bought sturridge, countinho and another 4 this window.
Now we need to sell. Suarez for sure. if we need to buy two quality players for two positions.

Sale of suarez has become a necessity. let's be honest

Rubbish, if this was our strategy that we have to buy before we sell surely we would of hold off signing mingolet until we sold reina! No point having two quality keepers that both want first team keepers.

Jord

Mistake to sell Henderson.

If Downing was going to fight and fight for his place, then I'd say keep.

Coates - yup.

10 Jul 2013 14:15:58
Who would people rather harlem ben arf or sessegnon both very good players but if you could only have 1

Is that you Mr. Kinnear?

Can We have Yohan Kebab instead?

PK

Is neither an option? {Ed052's Note - No}

Sessengnon - classy

10 Jul 2013 14:06:12
We got scouts looking at Odjer Eds? Be nice to get some African talent into the team {Ed052's Note - Do we (?), or we do?}

Do we? Sorry

10 Jul 2013 13:58:22
Seriously, I have no idea if the flamini interest is true but really?! Makes us look extremely desperate it has to be said. Toure is enough for experience on a free we need to get someone younger and more quality.

I am quite happy with are dealings so far but do I believe they will get us top 4? No, to me they are squad players. Surely with gobby suarez on his way we need to sign A couple of players with more edge. We mighr really have to push the boat out to attract them but we do need them. Shame mickey didn't materialize let's hope we have someone else in mind

Danny {Ed052's Note - Toure and Flamini play different positions, so linking the two is silly. And the rumours ain't true}

Toure does cover the CDM position also.
Wouldn't be surprised to see him cover there if Lucas misses games.
He's not my choice to play there but CAN if and when needed.

What I'm saying is we have already replaced the experience lossed from carragher. Just saying t wuld be a stupid signing and make us look unbeleveably desperate

Danny

10 Jul 2013 13:54:19
Hi Eds, have we had a look at Angelo Ogbonna? according to reports in Italy Juventus have ageed a fee with Torino for 10mil. {Ed052's Note - We haven't, no}

10 Jul 2013 13:45:41
Hearing Wenger is going to bid £35 million for suarez in next couple of days as take it or leave it option. The guys an person he thinks he can make loads of bids for different players miles below the asking price and eventually some mug will accept. Sod off scrooge! You can buy Assaidi right boot for £35 million. Getting tired off his pathetic transfer market approach that will never get any top quality players. I hope he's arse's manager for many years to come!

Your attitude is the reason for FFP rules being introduced. Greed.

Haha yes and i'm sure the board of directors and investers do aswell.top top manager is wenger.

So Liverpool wernt sniffing around walcott and these pages wernt full of walcott talk for 4-5 months (you could get him for 12m I remember reading)lmao, I said it before and I will say it again, the new managers at RM, CITEH, UTD, PSG, chelsea will be scared sh$tless about takeing saurez as it could be the bigest mistake of their careers, there's no money in italy, so your options are very limited.personally I hope you keep him as I don't want to see him in an arsenal shirt, but its not my decision, keep him or get rid its up to you but if the highest bid turns out to be 30-35m then that's what he is worth, end off
trev the gooner

Arsenal fan in peace.

All I would say is that the baggage that Suarez comes with definitely lowers his value a little.

How much would you say he's worth taking FFP into consideration as well?

35 million sounds about right for me.

Trinidad-Gooner {Ed052's Note - In pounds, 35m sounds about right, but we believe Liverpool will sell at 40m Euro/£ I'm not sure}

To be fair we have done the same with HM and his club sold him to Dortmund. This is how transfers work, the same as buying a house or a car, you never offer the full asking price. It's called negotiation. The selling club don't have to accept the offer though do they?
I would tell Suarez that we will accept the £35m offer only if he hands in a transfer request. Get rid of a player who doesn't want to be here, for good money and let Wenger and the Arsenal fans have all the problems, especially if RM do want him in future. What antics will he do then to get a move?

MUSHROOM

Liverpool will sell at 45-55m according to the echo which is always reliable! Suarez will also have to hand in a transfer request.

FFP is all about spending what you can afford and Arsenal charge loads for fans too watch games so I can't see FFP affecting them as much as say Chelsea. Suarez has the potential to be 3rd best player in the world alongside Falcao after messi/ronaldo £35million is completely unrealistic a joke of an offer. Yes he's a abit nutz sometimes but managers like a challange to change players. I'd just like Wenger to show some bottle for once and put a proper bid in for a change.

10 Jul 2013 16:43:21
Suarez is way beyond the league of Arsenal and you gunners know this. So, please stick to the likes of Sanogo, Campbell, Bentner, Chamakh and Frimpong who are Wengers kind of players as we are talking big money here and not bargain basement.

We signed Downing 20m, Henderson, 20m, Carrol 35m, Suarez 25m and Torres 20m, meaning we are used to doing it the big way, regardless of outcome.

We are not petty at all and you need to put up or shut up. Pay us 50m and Suarez is yours or you can go and sign Loic Remy and add that to your list of French contingent.

YNWA
LFC drumbeat {Ed052's Note - Frimpong isn't a striker. And don't forget they once had some of the best strikers on the planet. Herny, Rvp etc}

Chris7777 are you 7 years of age!
That's one of the most immature badly thought out rants I've ever seen!

Hmm, yaya sanogo, is that the young lad that and is playing a blinder for france in the u20 world cup scoring 4 goals hitting the post on several occasions and setting up goals for several of his team mates, and arsenal swiped him on a free.defo a real prospect, you obviously don't watch football or don't know much about the game

Arsenal Fan here:

Sorry . "Big money here and not bargain basement"

Well mate if you're not interested in being frugal (and you just said you paid 25m for Suarez) why is 30m not enough? Take the money and hand him over! I believe what you are doing is negotiating. You can learn a hell of a lot from us in that department. Look at the list of players you've just listed, look at the prices you've listed, are any as good as Cazorla for 16.5m? Doubt it mate. You call it "the big money" I call it being stupid

Crawf

If your referring to original post(i didn't make post 1643 although find funny and some bits true) its hardly immature, badly thought out. Wenger got £80 million to spend from last 3 years of refusing to spend on star players. My point was he's needs to pay big for a change if he wants success not offer pony £35 million for our star player. who I believe despite issues he has has potential to go on to one of the best players in the world and is easily worth minimum £45 mill.I know its all about negotiation but Wengers terrible at it as he never matches club's valuations.

BTW, he's terrible at negotiation for big name players!

10 Jul 2013 19:01:35
Coutinho cost half Cathorla!

Crawf.
Come off you know it I know it!

No way in a million years is 30 million enough

You lot got over 20 mil for Adsenator!

Have you been Wearing. Wengers extra long bubble jacket in this hot weather

Lyndon

10 Jul 2013 13:40:31
hi eds
any interest in javier hernandez, he spent a lot of last season on bench and may want more playing time and plus he is young and proven bpl scorer {Ed052's Note - No chance}

Phil Chisnall transfered from MU to LFC in 1964. This was the last time a player directly transferred between the 2 clubs. It just doesn't happen mate.

MUSHROOM

10 Jul 2013 13:34:25
Mkhitaryan was bought for $7.5m by shakhtar and Benteke for £7m by Aston villa. Mkhitaryan scored 25 goals but Benteke scored 19.
Both justified their prices but benteke does it in a more competetive league.
Many fellow reds are saying that benteke is very expesive as he will cost around £24-£25m.But don't you think it is a less risky business in comparison to Mkhitaryan.He was bought by Dortmund around £24m. And moreover Benteke was more expensive than Mkhitaryan at the time Aston villa signed him so why will he cost any less than Mkhitarya.

Hey eds I just want to know your opinion on this.
Thanks {Ed052's Note - I have no opinion to what you say. Mickey didn't sign, and I don't expect Benteke to.}

10 Jul 2013 13:58:01
benteke won't join us to sit and warm the bench when its obvious that sturridge will start.
we play with 1 striker upfront.

We don't need a marquee striker.

we needed a marquee Attacking mid who scores goals.

reason being we need both sturridge and the AM on the field at the same time.

We play 1 striker up front?

Is that why we played with both Suarez and Sturridge through the middle in majority of the games from the 2nd half of the season?

The real AG {Ed052's Note - We only play one striker}

10 Jul 2013 13:26:18
In view of some recent comments I just want to say Joe Allen is very good player, not sensational or the greatest ever just very good. Liverpool is lucky to have Joe and those who give him grief. well why waste my breath as being rational won't sway irrational people.

Jon

He's decent, but not a top 4 player and not a £15m player.

He is worth 5 million tops. {Ed052's Note - hahahahahahah}

10 Jul 2013 13:21:56
Do Liverpool have any interest in Saldado when LS goes?

Yorksred {Ed019's Note - Liverpool missed their chance to sign Soldado a few years back}

10 Jul 2013 13:15:06
Any truth in Downing to anyone? does he need help packing? {Ed019's Note - There is interest from the south of england}

10 Jul 2013 13:08:36
Just heard Liverpool are making an offer for Gary Hooper of Celtic? Any info eds?

Anfield Andy {Ed019's Note - No}

He's total dross mate. I can score the amount of goals he has in Scotland. Really hope we don't go for him.

Neilp

10 Jul 2013 12:59:21
it all seems a little gloomy at the minute with the suarez saga going on just wish it could be done quickly so Rodgers and the team can plan forward with who we will have, at the end of it we can't replace suarez till he sold, hopefully with big fee for him fees for reina skrtel downing Rodgers can re invest that money into the team should be enough money to buy some quality players to start and I believe we have enough quality youth coming through in teixera, wisdom, sterling, suso, flanaghan, samma these should be used as squad players this season and for all those that say we need to be spending huge on 6 or 7 top players now we can't do it remember what happened when 2 clowns nearly ruined us we r on the up may just take a liitle time Rodgers had 1 season and did as well as previous manager I really do believe we will improve on that think we will be pushing for fourth a lot closer than we have for a while and then we can judge how things are going, on the brighter side of things can't wait to rip the p##s out of the blue noses next season they will be at the bottom end of table got a relegation manager and several of his relegated team ready replacement for baines and fellaini leaving there ship is well and truly sinking, and they know it because they all very quiet at the moment at least fergie came in useful for once with moyes going along with what the puppetmaster told him to do they are going to crumble

Is that what we're reduced to, revelling in beating the bitters. LIke two bald men fighting over a comb. Surely it hasn't come to this.

HA! Nice1.

10 Jul 2013 12:54:22
Luis Suarez, for the love of God, please just stop talking. THANK YOU.
OK bye bye then.


Nafder

10 Jul 2013 12:50:01
I think given his age and his lack of goals its quite likely FSG would want downing sold for around 8 million to replace with younger wingers. My question is do the eds think downing wants a move or does he want to stay at Liverpool? {Ed052's Note - He wants to stay and fight}

I hope Rodgers sits him down and shows him a clear list of the players who he currently considers to be ahead of him - he can fight for his place but make it clear he be better off moving. Also mention to him it's a world cup year - he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad but if he went elsewhere and reignited his old villa form then why not

Have you ever thought that br wants to keep him. he is trying to build a squad. he done well to fight for his place last season and bringing more players will hopefully push him on even better.
sj

10 Jul 2013 12:41:21
I like benteke for villa but not to sure he is the player we need. He has many qualites that we don't have in our team but not sure he can fit into our style

Sturridge is the main man. Let's not change that. The why I see it is we need a player who can play wide mainly but can also play down the middle. Someone like muriel.

Aspas can do this although not sure how effective he will be. I see him either being a flop or a solid player. Not anything special and are deluding yourselves if you think he is.

Danny

I would love Muriel mate. Reckon he will be right up there with the best in a few seasons. Reminds me of the Real Ronaldo!

10 Jul 2013 12:37:25
Hi Ed's
What is BR's position on Adam Morgan?
Do you ( or the other Ed's ), know if he is ever likely to be in the managers plans?
Seems a real shame if not. Watched a bit of him coming up through the ranks, and has a bit of Robbie Fowler about him. {Ed052's Note - I can see him going, both for good, or on a loan}

I would give Morgan a loan just to see if he could step up. I don't think he will make it with us, shame as for effort and the love of the club he runs his heart out every game I've seen him play. Maybe tries too hard.

MUSHROOM

10 Jul 2013 12:19:10
Hey eds any interest in Moses Odjer? {Ed052's Note - That's just another random name}

10 Jul 2013 12:18:01
hi guys. just want to say that I have a very strong feeling that aspas is going to be an absolute revelation! can't wait to get a look at how we shaping up against pne on sunday! widdling myself in excitement.

He does look a good player a mix of Kuyt & Suarez is what i'm imagining, hard worker for the team and has pace, trickery, vision, dribbling skills and goals in him.

10 Jul 2013 12:12:24
I wonder why people deserpate for Benteke.
are we going to back to 4-4-2. which was ripped off by spurs or any high pressing teams?.
or we going to push sturridge to out wide?
or do we need another 20 mill guy warming the bench? we have abundance in that.

10 Jul 2013 12:53:09
Rooney, Young, Van Persie, Kagawa, Valencia, Nani and Hernandez were all on the bench last season for at least 5 games (much more in some cases). Its a squad game Harry, and If Sturridge has Benteke challenging him for the striker role, it will make him up his game. Benteke is worth £20m, and it'd be great to have a physical beast in the side who can hurt teams late on, or provide extra set piece defence against the likes of Stoke from the start. Carroll could have done that, but he doesn't have the ball skills to fit our system, unlike Benteke who is very good with the ball as well. I would love Benteke to sign. I see Aspas playing as an inside forward on the right side of the front three. Ngoo has been loaned out, Morgan is not ready and Yesil is still inexperienced and just back from a serious injury. So we only have Borini and Sturridge as strikers so far. Suarez is surely gone, and even if he stays, I don't want him in the striker position wasting 5 shots a game again, then blinding the hero worshippers with a 40 yard lob or a 30 yard free kick. He would have to play as the left forward, pushing Coutinho in behind Sturridge. Benteke is something different to what we have, that would also fit how we want to play.

10 Jul 2013 13:44:12
benteke wouldn't come to us to sit in the bench and suerly we can't buy a 20 mill player to fight for the starting 11.
UTD case is differnt. they are at top of the league and players would jump to join a club whose in that category. zlatan for barca. villa for barca.
Liverpool needs to fix other positions.
I too would like to have another striker. but BR already has bought 3 strikers. sturridge, borini and Asaps. now we have to deal with it.
If borini isn't scoring that's your problem of brining him at 11 mill.
If sturridge gets Injured either Asaps or Borini has to lead the line. simple as that.

Br said himself we were not in a position to have the likes of andy carroll 35m sitting on the bench can't see it being any different with benteke unless he wants him as part of his front 3.Tommy Irish Red

10 Jul 2013 11:58:11
Eds and reds,
Brendan Rodgers says he wants an offensive player and a defensive player.
Kyriakos Papadopoulos and Henrikh Mkhitaryan were the initial targets.
Tiago Ilori seems to be the alternative defensive option.
My guess is we have already found the alternative attacking option.
The club are just keeping this one quiet.

Thigo is not the alternative we had intention to bring in both.

They don't come more offensive than little Luis.

Ilori & Alderwiereld could be the defenders he wants.

No idea for attacking player/s but I bet its someone who nobody has mentioned

Bernard from Brazil

10 Jul 2013 10:48:55
Ed's you have often mentioned Erik Lamela's complex ownership issues.
Can u please explain them a little.
Also with Fiorentina coming out and saying that they will accept a bid of 25 mil. pounds for Jovetic. do u see him as a viable option. and if so. would he be a gud buy. and if not why wudnt he be viable.
Thanks! {Ed002's Note - I really don't want to go in to any detail about his ownership bt whilst Roma has been looking to bolster their ownership there remain owners of minority percentages that are not ken to sell. Liverpool has not shown interest in him or Jovetic at this time.}

10 Jul 2013 11:40:01
Glad Ngoo has gone out on loan to a championship side in yeovil, hopefully he will be a starter and prove he is worthy for our side, I think he's a quality player at times. i'm glad we haven't just sold him for little money! also good luck to spearing at blackburn if he completes his move, always appreciate a player who plays with such passion for the club!


Jackoo {Ed022's Note - Yeovil are my local team so I'm over the bloody moon about this haha!}

Yea good luck with that 1

10 Jul 2013 11:17:02
do some posters proof read what they write before they post? I mean "cold" instead of could? "prooven" instead of proven, c'mon people it's slopy werk! {Ed022's Note - Antidisestablishmentarianism.}

I'm sick of there/their, to/too mess-ups; it's the age of the internet, speling is irelivent ;)

I'm anaspeptic, phrasmotic even compunctious to have caused you such pericombobulation

10 Jul 2013 12:57:53
Supercallafragilisticexpyallidocious!

10 Jul 2013 13:21:47
Peter Griffin would say:
'I find this banter shallow and pedantic'
Mkaaay?

10 Jul 2013 11:05:39
Hi Eds,

A slight change of question on the replacing Suarez front. Do you think there is a good possibility that we just try to use the fantastic youth that we have to take replace Suarez? Suso is the first name that comes to mind but I'm sure there are others, especially if we move Coutinho into CAM and put Sterling/Ibe etc. on the left or right

I know you cannot answer that question with any certainty, but it just seems like we're spending money on a player to keep fans happy, when in reality the best solution for us both financially, and for the team ethic BR is obviously trying to create, is to do what Dortmund did and bring our talented younger players through the ranks.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Cheers!

10 Jul 2013 11:44:54
Suso is already playing with us,, He ain't replacing anyone. he would fight with conuntinho for the ACM role if we doesn't bid for any new.

10 Jul 2013 09:31:59
What is a transfer request in formal terms? Suarez is openly talking about going to another team and admits his agent is talking to clubs. So, if he goes to Liverpool and say's "I'm going to xxx. Will you sell me?" Is that not a transfer request, or is it something really formal? {Ed002's Note - No, it wodl be a written request from him or his agent requesting a move.}

That's presuming Suarez knows how to write.
RedGrant.

10 Jul 2013 10:42:09
Flamini to Liverpool battle with lucas for a starting place may the best man win
Digne be a super left back
Center half take a chance on papa
Attack midfield or striker winger player I just don't no anymore its gotten hard now

10 Jul 2013 10:27:57
Ed002 I have heard that we will try and sign alexis sanchez? do u know if this is true? {Ed052's Note - I'm not even leaving this for him. Search Function}

No. Because we don't have the balls to sign quality from Barca and would rather waste every bit of our transfer kitty on cr*p!

10 Jul 2013 12:17:04
Not really he would cost over 25 mill which is way out of our reach.
unless we sell suarez, we can't buy anyone.
Infact saurez sale has become a necessity for us to rebuild.

10 Jul 2013 10:25:04
Hi EDs. is there anymore news on Tello? Seems like things have quiet down. I thought at one stage we were interested.

Pundekman {Ed052's Note - Nothing in relation to Liverpool no - and nothing new that I've heard}

10 Jul 2013 10:23:57
So HM went to Dortmund for 21.9 million euros. Can anyone confirm that like Arsenals bid for Suarez, LFC were never serious about spending that amount in the first place, are we putting in low bids to fool fans into thinking we'll spend knowing the bid will fail? Arsenal know we would not accept £30m for Luis, so what 'bid' was made if at all for HM?
No.1 target, like Ilori we low bid use some toss about not being bullied in the market, we're LFC don't ya know. Like Ed002 said all along we knew what to do to secure BR's top choice, we didn't. We also do not need to sell Suarez to buy HM either. so what is happening?
Carlo {Ed052's Note - We did bid for Mickey, and we wouldn't pay over the odds. We're not putting in 'low bids' to fool fans - that's a stupid thing to say. Arsenal don't put in 'bids' to fool fans. Whats is happening Carlo, is that we wont pay over the odds to buy players - how hard is that to understand}

Ed do you mean we won't pay over the odds for players anymore?because we have done it many times under the current owners. {Ed022's Note - There is such a thing as 'learning from ones own mistakes', remember that please. European clubs in particular have it in their head that English clubs (in particular) will pay much more for a player than anyone else in Europe would, with the exceptions of Anzhi, PSG, Juventus and Madrid (amongst a few others). With this in mind, Liverpool have received criticism for spending over-the-odds based on talent rather than substance the past few years and only now is BR putting that right. Micky may have been a fantastic prospect, but we have to respect the reasons BR and the team didn't feel he was worth the extra inflated money.}

10 Jul 2013 10:51:53
ED. So what you think Micky is worth of?. If BR sees him better than Errikson who would cost 12-15 mill, that would be around 20 mill mark.
I don't think Liverpool wanted to pay 15 mill for mickey and value errikson less than 10 mill. {Ed022's Note - I'd say his true value would be around the 15 million mark, and Eriksens 'valuation' is a tad more complex - try not to compare the two.}

Do you know what we valued him at Ed052?
The Juicer

How is 22million euros over priced for HM? How much did we bid, if at all?
I agree we shouldn’t pay over the odds, but why did we ‘bid’ knowing what the release price was and as it appears Dortmund signed him for less than that? Like Arsenals pointless fruitless £30m Suarez bid, what did we bid for HM £10m?
Confirms my theory, we’ll not spend over £15m on a single one player unless they’re British. Fair enough, no problem with that but I would have a problem if FSG expect CL football without signing top draw players and move on BR when it wouldn’t be his fault.
Carlo {Ed022's Note - Quick question - if by some chance HM proves to be a total flop at Dortmund, do you think fans here will be shouting from the rooftops saying 'thank goodness we didn't waste all that money on him!' - unfortunately they will, and rightly so. The higher the price, the higher the risk. If BR felt that HM wasn't worth that extra risk then we should support him, after all, he seems to be rather canny with an eye for talent during Transfer Windows.}

Not being funny ed52 think you might mean we will not over pay no more for players only wot the club thinks is value for money hope this is the case because we have become a joke when it cums to buying players of late, if this is the case I'm glad we will miss out on sum players It will serve us better in future, clubs will know we will not pay daft money no more, I could be wrong hope not,
Ynwa lfc linc

Have you not brought this up about 4 times in this past week Carlo and everything has been explained to you about the club and the owners being big spenders, etc? Dementia much?

10 Jul 2013 12:34:57
Ed0022 this is pretty good point about what if HM is a flop at Dortmund, But if all of us here could give allen and henderson 2 seasons to prove their price tag so dortmund would give Micky 2 seasons to prove it.

Unfair comparison. after 2 seasons at LFC both Allen and Henderson will/would still be younger than Mkhitaryan is NOW. In fact, it wasn't until last year at age 23 that Mkhity starting pulling up trees. Hendo and Allen are 23 this year, let's see if this is their year.

Whilst no signing can be expected to immediately pull up trees in their first season as that is the exception of the rule, a 24 year old player signed for 25m is expected to not be a flop. In 2 years time Mkhitaryan will be the age of Suarez now, and BvB are basically signing him at the same age and for the same amount that we signed Suarez for. Much is expected of him and LFC did not, apparently, believe he could deliver for the price Shaktar wanted. let's see.

SpudRed

10 Jul 2013 12:32:20
Ed0022, I am sure. klopp is a pretty good manager and he has bought the youth set up to the bigger picture.
As per you. If Liverpool value Micky 15 mill. why did klopp bought him for 21.5 mill. when they could easily get Errikson for 12 mill.
I know they need to replace Gotze. But like us, they too won't spend randsom money on any average player.
25 league goals in 29 matches. is some stats. the only drawback would be the League. {Ed022's Note - And do you not feel that the league is one of the most important factors? They do need to replace Gotze and thus have the finances to do so and if anything, are a little more panicked so to speak. I'm not sure why everyone believes Eriksen is available for such a 'cheap' price as there are more complexities. With this in mind, Eriksen is a much better player anyway in my opinion and I'd much rather Liverpool pursue him with a much higher bid (as there will undoubtedly be a bidding war) in order to get their man.}

10 Jul 2013 10:08:39
I could take out a million names here and now on who to sign based on readin the posts lads have made some grate players but would they adapt quick enough or take up to the level I think people are naming to many obvious and unrealistic players hope we make a statement

10 Jul 2013 10:06:13
Benteke is not interested in moving to Liverpool.

Liverpool aren't interested in Benteke problem solved {Ed022's Note - That's not entirely true at all.}

10 Jul 2013 11:19:36
Liverpool have no interest in him.
We dropped the interest because he is waaaaaay over priced.

10 Jul 2013 09:53:06
Perhaps Suarez does want CL football, all the top players do, I don't know he has so much lied - more that he doesn't want to let the fans down any more than he has to. I know a lot of folks will find that hard to believe, and I'm not saying it's true - but reading in depth all the articles and interviews over this whole debacle it does seem that LS has frequently been misquoted through shoddy reporting and "soundbites" - taking a few comments and presenting them out of context.

Before we condemn the man any further, let's see how it plays out.

Hopefully he stays, the indications are that if he does he will remain committed. Spurs managed to hang on to Modric for a couple more seasons despite the players wishes, yet whilst I accept it didn't work out so well with Mascherano I don't think it's Suarez's style to play up - even to the degree that FT did by sulking.

If 'Pool can make top 4 this season it might be enough to convince LS to stay longer term & help attract interest from a few other seasoned players in the meanwhile.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst. Exciting to see how it's going to pan out really, sure we will be okay.

From what I gather Arsenal's bid was more to do with things affecting their Higuain deal, but who knows?

Great site Eds, appreciate the insight & benefit of your knowledge & contacts.

Suarez needs to go. It is not about his reasons for leaving, he is a liability. He is banned for the first 6 games next season, then what? If the last two seasons are anything to go by at some point there will be another 8-10 game ban next season. And before people say he has learned his lesson it was the SECOND time he had bitten some one.
He is one serious incident away from a Cantona type ban lasting practically the whole season. What good is all that talent sat in the stands, cash in and move on to a player that may not be as talented but will get you 20 goals a season for the whole season, and wants to be at the club. If it is a choice between the two I know which one I would go with.

10 Jul 2013 09:51:46
When suarez leaves is it possible lfc could bid for louis muriel I really rate him built for prem {Ed052's Note - We've no interest and a WP is a huge issue.}

10 Jul 2013 10:04:37
ED052. I am sure countinho too had the same problem with WP. how did we pulled that one?.
Big clubs do get some favour? {Ed052's Note - I just know that we would face huge problems with a permit, that's all I can say}

10 Jul 2013 09:48:12
Hi to all, like a lot of posters on here I've been a Liverpool supporter for a long time. almost 40 years. I've seen good times, great times and bad times; good, bad and great players come and go; and many successful and unsuccessful managers. I've also enjoyed this site for some years now.

Not a rumour but more of an observation in the shift in attitude of a significant number of fans and posters coming to this site. I was wondering if the introduction of games like Football Manager etc. could be contributing to this shift in attitude. Just a thought really but on these games, which are good fun I have to say, you get to play at being a manager and making decisions on the direction to take. It's easy being successful and ignoring those games, strategies and tactics that don't go quite to plan isn't it! Or is that just me :-)

It's easy to play at something and be successful and 'know best' when there's no real life consequences to decisions taken. And it's easy to sit on the outside and judge people and criticise them without any real knowledge or experience of the actual job and circumstances.

I would be interested to hear if anyone else thinks this could be a contributing factor or is it just that society is degrading to the point of no respect, manners and regard for other people nowadays?

Thanks,
Bryan

10 Jul 2013 10:30:46
I suspect games do influence society as does communication avenues such as twitter, facebook and the internet in general. Near instant feed of news and 24 hour coverage of sports/football may help create a now philosophy/attitude. Football is a major financial industry providing a lot of jobs; players, managers, backroom staff not to mention journalists and merchandising firms. It's no coincidence that games (fantasy football included) and news saturation are used as a tool to generate interest and widen the market. At the end of all it's still a game of eleven against eleven and the little teams can still have their day.

JAG

10 Jul 2013 09:41:34
With all the talk about Suarez going/staying/playing I have decided that we need to think about songs for the new signings.

What do you think of this one for Iago Aspas, sung to the tune of The Music Man.

I am the music man, I come from down in Spain
And I can play
What can you play
I play the football

Ia, Ia, Iago Iago Iago
Ia, Ia, Iago
Ia, Iago

Corny I know but I can't get this tune out of my head when I think of Aspas scoring in front of a bouncing Kop!

Yeah thanks for that, its in my head now!

What about the tune to Flash by Queen?

Da the da the da the da the
Aspas! Ahhhhhhhhh
He scores for every one of us

I'm not even going to sign off on this one, just grab my coat and leave

10 Jul 2013 09:36:22
Is there any New LFC interest in QPR's Loic Remy? he's still only 26 and scored goals at a poor QPR team. I think he could be a ideal replacement for LS and at around 8m is very cheap. {Ed052's Note - nothing}

10 Jul 2013 09:46:06
I think we already has a cover on the RW in Asaps.
Now we need a LW if countinho pushes to ACM.
BR has two choices either bring in a LW with pace. and push countinho to ACM or. bring another typical ACM pushing countinho to LW.

I would say let's get both with suarez sale.
40 mill would be enought to get Lamela and Errikson combined. Yes we must convice. may be will have to play hardball. whatever. If we get these two, young potential and proven players. Then we are done for attacking.

Can't believe this but I agree with Harry

10 Jul 2013 10:39:03
Harry mate, Lamela will not be moving to England anytime soon because of his complex ownership issues. 'Search function'

Eriksen is so overrated its so shocking so many people actually mention him. Is he that good on fifa & football manager?!

I watch him each National game as I have a Danish passport, and Coutinho is 5 times the player he is. Suso is a better player than Eriksen, always shoots, never tracks back, and his biggest problem is in his head. He thinks he is Maradona and that all the world's biggest clubs are after him when they are NOT.

That is exactly what we SHOULD do Harry but we won't. Can you honestly see us making a decent signing like Lamela or Eriksen? Because I can't!
DBol

10 Jul 2013 12:05:51
Leave about the attitude.
Hazard was supposed to go to every top side and ended up at chelsea after winning the CL.
But he looked real quality for them and he is very much settled over there.

we should show ambition and convince the player to join us. or pay the wages.

I wouldn't mind keeping a clause " If we fail to get CL in two seaosns. you would be allowed to leave for your club. "

10 Jul 2013 12:03:32
I am not sure Whether Erriskon is overrated. at 12 mil, 21 age and potentially some experience under his belt. he is the cheapest ACM availble in the market. probably after Honda.
countinho would still be in the team. out wide with errikson in the center and asaps out right.

or.

Get lamela or Muriel and play Countinho in the center with Asaps on the right.

But we must shed few pounds, and for all that. we have only player to sell and thast Suarez.

10 Jul 2013 13:12:29
Harry, this isn't football manager mate. Just stop with the random names please.

Or atleast check Luis Alberto on your game and tell us how he is!

10 Jul 2013 09:31:10
Why don't Liverpool bid for

Dmytro Chygrynskiy
Arda Turan
Iker Munian?

All the 3 above are proven and young and can be the force to challenge Top 4 next season.

And probably cost around £40M

10 Jul 2013 09:55:52
I am not sure on the first one.
the next two would cost us more than 20 mill. which we don't have.
I think we need to sell to buy. and all this saurez drama is pointing to it.
remember Thiago silva,, Zlatan. kaka. none wanted to leave Milan. but was eventually sold to raise the money.
Suarez wants to leave and we need money. both compliment.

10 Jul 2013 09:16:23
Some of the posts I have read on here I am absolutely appalled and disgusted that they have come from fellow LFC fans. Yes I can get as frustrated as the next fan but I would never attack a player personally. Players come and go but the club will remain.

By the way just heard that a German club have made an offer £44m for Suarez and he seems very interested. Apparently the club in question is Borussia Munchoncentreback.

Lighten up guys. Still a long way to go in the window yet, and even a longer season.

MUSHROOM

Haha, got to love all the Suarez jokes. And that one was good and had me going for a bit

10 Jul 2013 09:07:06
I can't wait for the season to start. Aspas will be a real gem, he is a class player and will really terrorise defenders, really looking forward to seeing what he can do for us. Alberto seems a raw talent and maybe can hit the ground running like Coutinhio. I think with a couple of more additions we have a really strong team. let's focus on suppoprting the players that come in not the ones that want out. If Suarez leaving bothers you that much please leave Liverpool fc with him. I will support anyone who treats our shirt with the respect it deserves because I support Liverpool. let's see what the new lads can do before you write them off.

So, if a fan is gutted that our best player is potentially leaving, they should 'leave us' too?

Sort it out, you tit!

We can be gutted about what we want, 'n still be called supporters.

Thanks for your backing for your fellow reds!

10 Jul 2013 08:59:14
Hi Ed's and fellow Reds bare with me, it got me thinking that suerez's recent comments on him wanting to leave have changed now because he wants champs league football do you not think like me this is because real Madrid or barca don't want him as much as he thought and he's thinking, shoot what do I do now I've opened my gob, say what I will say its because of no champs and talk up the likes of arsenal and Chelsea because I can't stay now, so basically he's now open to any team in champs league, what do eds and other reds think, cheers {Ed002's Note - No, he is jst a jerk.}

10 Jul 2013 08:52:22
Hi eds, With Suarez looking likely to leave, please tell me, who do you think the most likely replacement would be? Me personally would love Luis Muriel! {Ed002's Note - How about Aspas?}

Yeah, Aspas looks a very exciting player but surely if we sell Suarez we would be looking for another striker!?

10 Jul 2013 08:38:51
Any chance of Shane long to replace Suarez . {Ed002's Note - An interesting thought.}

Decent and very good on his day but hasn't played to his own capabilities on a consistent basis. Would be a good option for the bench/backup.

Replacing Suarez with someone considered a good option for the bench/backup is where the problem would be. I think 1 player would have to be signed who everyone expects to start should Suarez go.

10 Jul 2013 08:24:29
I picked this up! Make of it what you will!

Benteke? Yes, yes, Liverpool are extremely interested! They will matt prior the cash (stump?), is he interested? Yes yes but there are others! We may lose him in the smoke? Too many belgium whispers for our liking

What's that all about mate?
It sounds like something Gypsy Rose Lee said to my mam when she got her palm read on Blackpool Sea Front 25 years ago.
Haha.
The Juicer

Liverpool are interested and will STUMP (cricket phrase due to ashes I suppose?) Up the cash? Lose him in the smoke (london is referred to as the big smoke), too many belgium whispers must mean dembele and vertonghen?

Yeh I gathered that mate, but why didn't you / he just say that in the first FSGing place?
Haha.
The Juicer

Posted it as I read it :)

10 Jul 2013 08:10:32
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Ed002's Note - http://tinyurl.com/kq565a8

10 Jul 2013 08:06:45
Cant wait to see Aspas terrorise defenders. let's support out new lads and let the club deal with those that want to leave.

10 Jul 2013 08:03:52
I wonder if all our transfer business is done?

All is quite now, we spent around £25m and brought in the same in sales.

Ok Suarez is still to go but FSG may just put that towards the losses incurred.

If they do they should go we haven't spent a penny swansea norwich are bigger spenders than us we have no chance of top 4 with this squad & with ls going we need to spend big money to improve the first 11 not more squad players

10 Jul 2013 07:50:10
"Well I think, especially at the end of the season, we could see the fruits of his work, " Alonso told ESTO ES ANFIELD.

"When Brendan arrived we knew it was a project for a few years, and step by step he started the season trying to establish his methods.

"Maybe he found it a bit harder than he expected, but at the end of the season with the new signings the team played quite well.

"So we trust that in the next years, the team will come together, become more competitive and reach the Champions League. That is where we want to see it."

YNWA Xabi.

10 Jul 2013 07:25:48
Hi eds, great site thanks for all the hard work. I was just wondering if there is any news on Papadopolous or any other center back being signed?
Thanks
Phil Parry {Ed002's Note - Efforts are being made for Ilori.}

10 Jul 2013 05:42:15
Hi eds, I don't know what page this goes on but has anyone ever noticed a cheeky little playmaker when watching Wilfried Bony Comps. His name is Renato Ibarra. He looks a class player & features in many of Vitesses goals. Has any team at all shown interest in this player? If not, can LFC throw a sneaky bid in please ;P (kidding I know it wouldn't happen) appreciate it if you have any info on the player. Thanks {Ed002's Note - I can't help, sorry.}

10 Jul 2013 06:07:15
I have a feeling benteke will end up at arsenal. When he got in trouble earlier in the season it was because he said he dreams of playing for arsenal one day (or something along those lines)
Also arsene wenger doesn't seem to sign established players anymore rather young one with potential, in arsenes mind higuain and Suarez are a smokescreen for a benteke deal.

I think benteke is a good player bit not what Liverpool need and especially at that price! All our other forwards are fluid and can swap positions, benteke doesn't fit that mould

Reinas hair piece

IMO Benteke will end up at Spurs

10 Jul 2013 01:36:09
I hope rogers and the committee have another target for the AM position after missing out on henrikh mkharyan. If we where willing to get him for £20+ mill then why aren't we lookin at cheaper options like benard and eriksen. If Suarez is to be moved on we need a good replacement. Whether that's in the AM position or a forward that up for debate. Personally I would play coutinho in the AM position and bring a first team forward. Jorginho would not bring any improvements to the team IMO but he is a good replacement for shelvey and spearing. I just hope the next two players we get (CB and AM/forward) are first team quality.

10 Jul 2013 00:49:39
Frankenstein's monster feels he has a right to love, does he? In the novel the monster kills Frankenstein and dies in isolation (we are led to assume) in the frozen north. Guys, Mary Shelly already told us what to do: send the monster to Russia.

You guys should lighten up on the russians they are really nice and cuddly when you get to know them and not half as bad as uncle sam makes out

Cant believe after reading that your sign off name is Logic

10 Jul 2013 00:17:36
Hey Eds and all. Am getting ecited to see our young team down in Melbourne in a few weeks, been a while between home games.Found it amusing that Utd took a few weeks to sell out an all stars game here yet we sold out Australias biggest stadium in a few hours.I think Brendon and FSG are doing a good job

Nice to hear.

Who is this Brendon?

10 Jul 2013 00:16:24
'Disillusioned Footballer' ;-)?

09 Jul 2013 23:49:52
Is anyone else loving evertons transfer business lol 3 Wigan players in already. There's a reason why u got relagated mr Martinez!

But they are supposed to be favourites to get Barcelona starlet Gerard Deulofeu on loan
He is very good and will set the EPL alight. Not sure why we did not get him on loan for a season

That goalkeeper is class, mind. Everton don't really need a goalkeeper urgently but he is a real coup.

Other than that it is pretty poor show. Bringing in older players to an already too old squad. They need to add more youth.