Liverpool Banter Archive February 10 2016

10 Feb 2016 22:12:47
Its funny that every fsg bully boy thinks they've won the war.

"The club has also ended game categorisation - meaning fans will pay the same price for matchday tickets regardless of the opposition. "

This just means instead of £30 for bournemouth at home, itll now be the man u price of £59.

Its kinda like when car insurance had to be made equal between men and women, they didn't lower mens insurance, they just raised womens.

002 do you think that's what's happened here? i think its pretty creative if that's what they've done and i applaud them for it.

{Ed002's Note - They have more major issues to deal with right now and they will not be happy with the whole situation.}

10 Feb 2016 22:33:39
It's a brilliant PR move to be honest and the reactions seem positive even though many more tickets I would imagine are now actually more expensive then under the previous (now scrapped) scheme. Frankly I didn't have a problem with the last one nor a problem with this one, but I wouldn't exactly say they've conceded much of anything really.

10 Feb 2016 22:40:27
Yep, like trying to get their 110m back they loaned the club to build the new stand, which the bully boys seem to forget when it suits them.
I want JH to sell up, the guy from day 1 has come across as a nice gent with the club at heart.
he gave us kenny, he gave us klopp, he gave managers over 300m, all whilst the club has been losing money hand over fist.
A stand up guy that's tried to do his absolute best sorting out the mess H&G left, sure he's got things wrong, but he's tried.
An what respect does he get for it? i'm pretty sure him and his wife have received death threats in the past ed? they couldn't come watch games for a long while if i remember rightly.
Lfc fans don't deserve FSG, they can do better than us. i hope they sell up for a profit, getting as much back as possible, and get themselves away from us as quickly as possible.
Disgusted they had to apologise publicly like that, like a picked on kid who looked at the big kid the wrong way.
We have made our bed, just hope sos are ready to lie in the repercussions.

10 Feb 2016 23:26:32
Completely agree Benny.

10 Feb 2016 23:38:01
Well said Benny lad.

10 Feb 2016 23:22:50
They made kenny fly to America to sack him.

They gave us Rodgers and we're still paying him.

. Enough said.

{Ed001's Note - I don't see why someone should be applauded for loaning us money in the attempt to turn it into more money for themselves. That is just business, not good ownership.}

11 Feb 2016 03:45:55
They are businessmen, Benny, they weren't sticking their hands in their pockets because they are nice, generous guys who thought the clubs fans deserved it - it's a business transaction. They have their PR machine smoothly oiled if they have fans thinking they deserve better.
Having said that, they are trying to build LFC into a functional and successful sports business which should ultimately mean more on field joy for the fans.

11 Feb 2016 04:06:18
I mean, we could be into a bank for £170M or thereabouts instead, along with all the interest that would invoke. I'd say them loaning the money interest free instead is a pretty nice thing to do.

{Ed001's Note - and they will turn it into equity which will rise in value by a similar amount when they sell up. So no, not nice, just a nice money earner. I wish people would stop making out they are doing us a favour, they are not, they are doing their wallets a favour. Now that does not mean I am against them as owners per se, just that I am not stupid enough to think they are doing anything out of the goodness of their hearts, out of niceness, or to do us a favour.}

11 Feb 2016 04:17:32
Of course they'll get it back eventually, I didn't say otherwise. But I'd much rather owe them £170M than a bank £170M plus a fat gob of interest. Most of the FSG lot are investment banker types, I'm pretty sure they could make far more money off of that money far faster in many other ways.

{Ed001's Note - quite clearly they can't or they would be doing that. They have invested in sports as they see it as the best way to make money. Short term borrowing off them helps us out, long term it is a bigger hindrance. So I guess it depends on whether you care about the club now or whether you give a toss about its future?}

11 Feb 2016 04:36:56
Fair point on the latter, Ed. But on the former these guys are mostly quite capable of making money elsewhere. Henry with his soybeans, DiBenedetto with his investment management and real estate, Gordon back a few years with Vinik, etc. Sports are generally a poor investment compared to other things they could be doing and I do think at least part of them has a passion for it (granted, probably much more baseball related than football) . As you say, they've made their share of mistakes but I do think they also get a bit more grief sometimes then they deserve as well.

{Ed001's Note - no mate, they entered sports as a money making scheme. It is one of the best ways to earn in the USA. Businessmen are desperate to get involved in ownership of sporting franchises, in the main, as they are pretty much a license to print money. That is the sole and only reason they are involved as an investment group. I have no doubts they enjoy some sports, but that is not why they invest money into it, and certainly not why FSG bought Liverpool.}

11 Feb 2016 04:41:17
Turning Liverpool into a profitable machine is itself a success and that also implies on field success as definitely on field success isva necessary means to profitability. Look at Arsenal, i bet liverpool fans will be more than happy yr in yr out to be in ucl and able to buy stars like Sanchez and Ozil.

{Ed001's Note - I am not so sure most of us would be happy to be like Arsenal, though I do agree with your first sentence. Arsenal have the cash in the bank to buy the one or two top class additions that would see them challenge season in, season out, for the league title and Champions league, but it stays there, so instead they challenge for top four and champions league group stages each season. That is the problem with a sports business like Arsenal over a sports team like Bayern or Barcelona.}

11 Feb 2016 04:57:41
Cheers, Ed001. Not sure I agree with you entirely still as surely no one interested in making money would buy a newspaper these days! A good discussion though and appreciate all the replies (along with everything else you do around here) .

{Ed001's Note - newspapers are not dead and buried yet, there are still ways to make money off them. Especially when you have the associated websites to go with them. Certainly no one buys a newspaper to win football matches with it.}

10 Feb 2016 21:35:16
Wonder if the club senior staff set the price structure and convinced the board it was reasonable and then FSG, after the supporter reaction last week, realised they must step in and rectify the situation, taking responsibility into the bargain to placate the fans and publicly support/ protrct the people who came up with the idea.
Ed2 called it spot on as "the club" not the owners as they don't interfere with day today operations. Respect to Ed2 and respect to FSG for their conciliatory, swift, decisive and responsible action.
If Ed2 is also correct about the SoS long term motives then this clever response will place them firmly on the back foot.
End of the day the correct, fair and honest result all round. Well done FSG well done LFC supporters who stood up in unison and were listened too.
The statement issued tonight surely goes a long way to enable everyone in the Liverpool FC family to unite again under King Klopp. Onwards and upwards together YNWA.

10 Feb 2016 21:06:06
Anyone watching this young irish lad playing for Peterborough? Marten samuelsen, he is ridiculous. Its like watching a Barcelona player taking the micky out of west brom. Is this guy know ed002? Like premier league teams tried to sign him already?

{Ed002's Note - Norwegian and he belongs to West Ham.}

10 Feb 2016 21:48:34
double doh, a few clicks later and I found the west ham bit out. They were talking about him playing Ireland so I put 2 and 2 together. Looking forward to seeing him next season in the premiership then.

10 Feb 2016 21:48:51
Forrester is the Irish one, they look and play very similar. Both look like tidy players. As the eds would say this is a Liverpool page, we have brannagan.

10 Feb 2016 20:42:58
FSG, thank you.

LFC Fans - be careful what you wish for as I doubt any new owners would be as good.

Now, let's get behind Klopp and the team and show what LFC is all about. We may not have had a season we would have hoped, but we are in a final and we are getting some long absent players back. let's make the most of what remains of this season.

YNWA.

10 Feb 2016 19:47:53
Well don to all those who walked out on 77 minutes, sometimes things can be changed with the right effort,
To all those people and anyone else slating the owners maybe its time to lay off? If they sell the club it won't be for a couple of years at least, they've stepped back from the ticket rises, they've given money to spend on players whether they are the right players or not on numerous occasions and its not often a club actually listens to the fans, ours seem to do it regular as clockwork, Klopp, Kenny anyone?
Time to lay off in my book and let's start getting behind the club, the team needs it right now as its so up and down its unreal,
Come on fellas Europa on the way and a cup final!

10 Feb 2016 21:09:36
Do you not think it's about time this ticket stuff is dropped instead of you bringing it back up when everybody else is taking positives from yesterday's match, let's keep the banter and this site to what it's about instead of you bringing things back up and have everybody bickering agen.

10 Feb 2016 21:10:04
Nice one Richie.

10 Feb 2016 21:48:42
Cheers Ron lad and no Knuckles I dont, this site is also about current LFC news, this was announced tonight by the club so its relevant what's the problem?
We should be glad our owners have stood up and listened to the fans should'nt we?
some people will argue about anything on here some days.

10 Feb 2016 23:02:17
I've had enough of this debate about arguing and if anyone's view on it differs from mine I suggest they make it known so we can have an open discussion on the debate about arguing or not arguing.

10 Feb 2016 23:02:43
Has it really worked out that way? No categorisation for games? If all games are £59, the lower category games won't be £40. Let's just say if all to let's are £59 then there no lower price tickets so has it really achieved anything enlightening me please as am interested to know. I personally don't think anything is any better. One thing it will of done is made the owners wish they never got involved.

11 Feb 2016 00:41:01
Well Knuckles was the complaint not that £77 was too expensive?

Now the top price will stay £59 so those who said £77 was too expensive cannot argue with it.

Everyone who went for cheaper tickets against lower category teams will now pay more than they used to, but crucially no GA tickets will be over £59.

Did you just expect the owners to turn around and bend over?

10 Feb 2016 19:13:38
Money grabbing leeches taking money out the club.
Oh, wait.

10 Feb 2016 22:15:30
They are the best thing that has happened to Liverpool since Istanbul now!

10 Feb 2016 19:09:31
So the fans got the wish and Fsg are sorry. So the fans do matter.

10 Feb 2016 19:35:58
Not sure what they had previously done to be questioned if they see fans as important?

10 Feb 2016 19:59:23
Fsg now need to bck Klopp in the summer with quality players not 7 or 8 who can turn out to be good . We ready have that . A new gk is a most this summer.

{Ed001's Note - what they need to do is offload and trim the squad.}

10 Feb 2016 20:30:38
Agreed Ed.

Example; if we didn't have Benteke, Lallana, Milner, Allen, Enrique, Bodgan - would it be that much difference to the team results if a few youngsters had to play?

Then consider, Balotelli, Alberto, Toure (not having a dig - he is out of contract), Sinclair, McLaughin, Wisdom (no hate just doesn't look like he will get a look in) and Markovic could also go and have little impact to the current 1st team squad.

Probably £30m in wages alone on the players above as well.

Here's hoping some of the above if Klopp decides to sell actually bring some money back into the club!

10 Feb 2016 20:42:14
Spot on Ed
We need to sell about a dozen and buy about 5.

10 Feb 2016 22:16:08
Yes ed the squad players should be are younger players Ojo Stewart llori players like that. But we do need to get some players out who's not in kloop plans and replaced them with players who can jump into the starting 11.

10 Feb 2016 19:06:15
It looks as though FSG have listened and they have responded quickly and appropriately on the ticket price issue.

Well done FSG.

YNWA.

10 Feb 2016 18:20:34
Hi reds right my take on things last night was Lucas did phenomenal at cb really his interceptions, tackling and also his blocks. Okay he made one mistake but surely the amount of mistakes benteke and Migs made they should hold the brunt of the stick right? Let's start with Migs passing it out under pressure okay he got away with it but a side with pace will exploit that just put ye foot through it. His distribution leaves a lot to be desired also, and his lack of vocal commanding is really troubling. Benteke okay his confidence is low. I think the club need to cut thier losses with Migs and Ben and that be the end of it. Cheers eds in advance.

10 Feb 2016 20:03:42
Mingo is aweful. That fact has been well established.

10 Feb 2016 23:23:43
So Migs didn't make any mistakes but along with Benteke should shoulder the blame? Seems that Migs has been slammed for so long on here that he now has to take responsibility for our losses even when he's not at fault (or maybe it's all Rogers fault for buying him) . What did he do so wrong? From what I saw he had a decent game especially compared to recent howlers.
Personally, I don't see anyone responsible for the loss except Benteke and the three defenders who didn't challenge Ogbonna. I know he is scapegoat-of-the-month now we've moved on from Lucas, Allen, Lovren but how can you objectively say Mignolet contributed to our exit from the cup?

10 Feb 2016 17:49:59
Just heard Jamie Carragher mention that apparently Rodgers picked Lovren over Sakho at the start of the season because Skrtel preferred playing with Lovren.

Is this a regular occurence with managers?

10 Feb 2016 19:12:56
I'd rather play with lovren myself Sakhos crazy hahaha.

10 Feb 2016 15:29:44
Wow, some guys really going to town n Lucas on here,
Lucas had a great game and defended really really well yesterday, he had one mistake, he decided to make the challenge instead of standing off, who knows what would have happened if he hadn't made the challenge.
But let's be honest here lads, if the other players who got on the pitch yesterday had performed the responsibilities of their position last night as well as Lucas performed his duties as CB we would have ran away with that game.

10 Feb 2016 18:56:33
I can never understand why Lucas gets so much stick. He was just excellent last night and it's not even his natural position. He's been getting grief for years and once has sulked off or bad mouthed the club. But you know the old saying"You never know what you have till it's gone"And trust me he will be missed.

10 Feb 2016 20:24:15
The vital free kick was a dive, as were a number of the free kicks we conceded. Some of them should have won Oscars. They repeatedly got away with it.

10 Feb 2016 22:34:12
Had we converted our chances, this foul or non foul would have been a none issue.

10 Feb 2016 14:07:11
Is Milner called Millie because for corner kicks he places the ball within a millimetre of the quadrant? Moreno does it as well. Both are wonderful at concentrating and focussing on getting the ball within a millimetre outside the corner kick quadrant. The opposition fans go wild, several times the officials have even gone to check the positioning of the ball whether it be by Millner or Moreno. And for all that uproar, focus, millimetres, all that trying to be smart, when it actually comes to KICKING THE BALL. time after time it is wasted. Along comes young Brannagan. Places ball in centre of quadrant. boom. target hit. every time. Bring on next match. The concentration levels of both Milner and Moreno when placing ball for corner kick will be out of this world, just a shame their kicks go out of this world too.

10 Feb 2016 14:33:55
I agree that Milner and moreno's corners are poor, but Brannagans, while better, were still very hit or miss.

10 Feb 2016 15:16:37
Least brannagan is not payed 150k a week like milner to deliver those hit and miss crosses.

10 Feb 2016 12:48:50
Gutted we not still in the Fa cup but hopefully the displays from the likes of Stewart, brannigan, chirivella and Smith show we have enough in the squad to do a job if needed. Hopefully with this realised we will now target players in upcoming transfer windows who will improve the 1st choice 11 rather than buy an endless amount of overpriced similar ability players who are short of competing for the title.

10 Feb 2016 15:30:01
well said Red80. quality over quanity, only bring players in who are better than those we already have. would we miss milner or lallana, because we have chosen to use stewart or tex? we do not have a bottomless pit of cash, we need to get smarter in our transfer dealings.

10 Feb 2016 22:37:43
I Milner, Lallana, and Moreno as well as Clyne need to look over their shoulders, especially the first two because Stewart, Smith and Flanno are coming for your spots.

10 Feb 2016 12:19:28
Crouch didn't score his 1st Liverpool goal for 19 games, and if I remember correctly he didn't get half the abuse benteke got. All strikers get bad form . his shooting won't be an issue. The hope should be that his movement gets better with coutinho and Sturbridge back.

10 Feb 2016 15:39:25
peter crouch only cost £7m, plus no one could accuse crouchy of not trying. Christian bentenke cost £32m and has stopped playing since Brendan got sacked. are we all forgetting his pathetic performances in 2 games against Exeter? strange how he suddenly gives a damn once sturridge, origi and countinho come back from injury. we have a big summer coming up we need to make ruthless decisions. we also have ings to return next year. imo big bens clock is already ticking.

10 Feb 2016 15:54:09
Everyone knows his clock is ticking. your missing the point though.

10 Feb 2016 17:28:26
feel free to let me know what point i'm missing omalleylfc. he is a striker who is failing to do the basic requirements, ie putting the ball in the bloody net. he wanted a move to a big club, he got it, he should be strutting around the place head up and proving he is worthy to wear the number 9 if he had we wouldn't have been so upset about sturridge being injured for so long. he is making emile heskey look like a bargain!

10 Feb 2016 11:55:53
It would be great if any of the Eds could answer this.

Would the team have to go through the Qualifiers for the EL, after you win the league cup?

What position dies the winner take in the EL campaign next season?

Would it means the team will have to play in the middle of the Pre-Season?

Thanks and regards.

{Ed002's Note - The winners go in to the third qualifying round and then the play off to get in to the group stages. The first game will probably be on July 28.}

10 Feb 2016 14:16:55
Ed002, n in case the winner has automatically qualified thru league position, then does it goes to the runner up?
Tia.

{Ed001's Note - no.}

10 Feb 2016 11:25:27
I have a question for the Ed's if you will. With all the ticket price and TV deal stuff, is there a possibility that one of the large tech, streaming companies could soon be bidding for the TV rights? With the big financial deal involving the former presenters of a certain car show, and the massive increase in popularity of 'on the go' media, it got me thinking after it was mentioned on the radio. Could we soon be watching our football via live streams at all? They certainly have the finances do they not?

{Ed002's Note - Eventually yes but not whilst there are significant television deals. Once a breakaway happens it will all be up for grabs again at a national level as the big money will go with the breakaway.}

10 Feb 2016 11:50:22
Ok thanks Ed. Bet they increase my subscription fee. probably by £77!

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has been increased by £77 - it would be misleading to suggest it has.}

10 Feb 2016 12:50:57
Tough crowd eh. was merely in jest!

{Ed002's Note - But it is already crystal clear that the vast majority don't understand about the ticket prices.}

10 Feb 2016 10:26:30
I'm extremely proud of the inexperienced players, who haven't been beaten in 360 minutes of football,4 matches.
It's cruel to go out like that but it's part of learning and growing.
The only possible negative is that's the end of starts for Stewart and tex, unless he uses that type of team for the Europa. I really think Stewart could be something great, fingers crossed they get more games.

10 Feb 2016 10:41:59
Absolutely 100% agree Benny. There is nothing like seeing a young player make it in the 1st team. Hopefully he will use them again in Europe.

10 Feb 2016 09:35:45
Hey lfc fans


I didn't watch the game last night but judging from the min by minute report I did read

Benteke is the reason we lost the game for a lack of finishing

Would that be right?

10 Feb 2016 09:45:48
A bit harsh today we lost because of him, but he did have a good 3 or 4 chances to score last night.

Texeira also missed a very good chance.

10 Feb 2016 09:52:42
David N'Gog would've had a hattrick last night mate. Smith, Teixeira, Sturridge, Origi, Ibe and Coutinho created about 8 clear cut chances for him and he fluffed his lines every time and then laughed about it.

Have a look at Coutinho's set piece delivery and free kick goal though. He was superb. Shame he had to come off due to lack of match fitness really! Stewart and Chirivella bossed the midfield for about 105 minutes. So much so that West Ham played route one football all game. In fact, we were so much the better side that they resorted to diving for the last hour or so of the game.

We literally lost because all of our chances fell to Benteke, because a lucky deflection looped the ball over Smith for their first, and because Valencia was throwing himself to the floor when Lucas or Ilori breathed on him. Lots to be positive about. Ilori looked good all game. Had Payet in his pocket which takes some doing. Even Mignolet made some good saves although he was still dodgy with balls into the box. Texeira and Coutinho looked like a pair of twins with telepatic link up.

Stewart and Smith should be starting in the league though. Can and Moreno are not playing as well as they are, pure and simple.

10 Feb 2016 10:31:26
Totally agree EMS, Moreno countless times gets himself in a great position to deliver a cross and constantly fluffs his lines, in fact it's been that way for months now, time for a change.

10 Feb 2016 10:40:25
Ems migs never had a good game, doesn't command his area, cannot organise a piss up in a brewery, and his position is and was terrible.

10 Feb 2016 12:16:04
In the league matches we should now try and blood in Stewart, Smith and Flannagan. All at the moment playing better than the current players in their position. Put Coutinho back in and replace Lallana or Milner and see how we go.

10 Feb 2016 12:16:04
In the league matches we should now try and blood in Stewart, Smith and Flannagan. All at the moment playing better than the current players in their position. Put Coutinho back in and replace Lallana or Milner and see how we go.

10 Feb 2016 12:16:04
In the league matches we should now try and blood in Stewart, Smith and Flannagan. All at the moment playing better than the current players in their position. Put Coutinho back in and replace Lallana or Milner and see how we go.

10 Feb 2016 09:22:44
Hi Eds and Reds,

I don't usually make too many posts but I have a question for Ed001.

You mentioned recently that you feel the main weaknesses of the side are Mignolet, Clyne and Moreno defensively.

My question is that do you think that the ideal 'replacements' for the trio are already at Liverpool in Ward, Flanagan and Smith respectively or do you think we need to look in the transfer market for any, or all, of the three positions?

Thanks and keep up the amazing work the site does!

{Ed001's Note - I am not sure about Ward, as we have not had the chance to see him play to assess him. He needs a run of games or we will have to buy to replace Migs. I do think Flanno has shown he is good enough at either full back position to step in and raise the level there. He is better than either Clyne or Moreno, possibly even better than them both put together being honest. Smith needs to improve defensively, but right now I would prefer to give him and Moreno the chance to compete for the position next season, rather than sign someone.}

10 Feb 2016 09:48:29
Agree with ed on flanno and smith, let's just remember when flanno first started playing in the team not many thought he would ever make it.

Personally i'd say smith has done better coming into the team Tha when flanno first did.

10 Feb 2016 09:51:51
Flanagan is class ed1 but would you say its important to ease his work load until the start of next season ed, but he makes a massive difference and is a class above Clyne.

{Ed001's Note - well we have Clyne, so he can be eased back in to replace him over the course of the season.}

10 Feb 2016 09:57:32
What about Gomez ed, he'll be ready also.

{Ed001's Note - he is more of a centre back and needs time to get back to full fitness and then he would be better as a back up being eased in to first team action.}

10 Feb 2016 12:33:19
I know he's Australian, but does Smith count as a home grown player for us?

10 Feb 2016 08:48:23
So I was in the match yesterday. Unfortunately I didn't sit with the away fans but this only made me appreciate our fans who did brilliant job and for most of the game were much louder than the locals. Made me proud.

About the game I have just one big big question which I ask almost after every game in the last two years. Can anyone explain why we cannot score goals?

Now save me all these answers of you build from the back and its Mings fault or Skertl or Brendon Rogers or our strikers are lazy. It is something else and it is a real mystery for me.

I was watching the game yesterday thinking, if Suarez was playing for us, even if we were 10 against 11, even if he was instructed not to go out of the last third and play only on the right, and not to create anything himself just finish what other people started, we would have won the game 5:1.
Because we did create chances yesterday but we just cannot finish.

This is how we were two years ago, every time we came forward we scored. But the minute he left he took all our scoring ability with him. Like a spell or a curse and I am not a superstitious person.


And we brought some good scorers after Suarez left, Balotelli, Lambert, Benteke, but once they moved to us they became the most clueless in front of goal you could imagine. Benteke seriously look as if he is under some kind of hypnosis, last year he would have scored three from yesterday's chances. Our midfielders cannot score either other than Couts occasionaly. Other strikers are always injured.

We had this one game, the 6:1 against the Saints in the league cup when I thought here we go again but then the clock stroked midnight and we turned back to our ugly 'cannot score for our life' mode.

This really is the story of this season. Poor finishing (in front of goal), poor finishing of games (conceding late), and in two weeks and can be poor and early finish of this season.

Long trip home yesterday : (

10 Feb 2016 08:58:54
It's quite simple mate. Strikers.

We have good strikers but they have mostly been injured and out of confidence.

The signs were good last night though so hopefully this will see an end to your worries.

10 Feb 2016 09:12:04
Benteke was unlucky last night. He did everything right, except score. The two efforts from the corners in the first half and his header back in. All good. He should have scored 1v1 but it's a bit 50:50, more confidence and he would have, but he got into that position because he played well.

It's a shame the chances we create before we had Origi and Sturridge on, we not replicated because I think one of those Smith crosses would have been put away.

Anyway, there were enough positives to take from last night and now we have three fully fit strikers let's give them some game time before we close the book. If we were not creating the chances that aren't being scored I'd be more worried, but we do and with strikers the goals should come.

10 Feb 2016 09:13:23
The signs are good in terms of creating chances Alfie. I now looked at the extended highlights in BBC sport I counted about 10 clear cut chances. 10! and not half chances, very good chances. But until you don't score them how does this help?

I can't believe we lost to West Ham 3 times this year and drew the fourth. They are a nice team but we have so much more talent.

10 Feb 2016 09:55:59
Gotta disagree Max. He missed three chances insidevthe six yard box, a one on one, 2 more headers, a 20 yard shot that went 20 yards wide and put a free kick in an excellent position straight down the middle.

He should've had at least 2-3 goals. Absolutely shocking how he missed all those chances.

10 Feb 2016 10:43:08
Completely agree with EMS - there was nothing unlucky about it. Benteke had 5-6 gilt-edged chances and ballsed them up. He's currently performing up front as Migs is at the back and they are both costing us games.

10 Feb 2016 10:50:58
It's because they train with mignolet so it takes less to score but when they come against a 'shot stopper' they struggle! :p.

10 Feb 2016 11:42:32
The good thing is finally we are creating good clear cut chances and as confidence grows they will be taken.

10 Feb 2016 08:36:13
Gutted with the result like everyone else but enjoyed watching our team play for the first time in months.
Thought Chirivella, Stewart and Ilori were fantastic.
Would love to know the opinion of other pool fans but I would be very happy with relying just on the kids next year.
Let's face it - we have a team worth 6-10 place niw but costing 100s if thousands in wages as well as making us all miserable .
I will argue that a team based around these kids (plus 2-3 experienced signings) is worth AT LEAST 6th - probably higher. And this on a fraction of the weekly wages, with the added enthusiasm of nurturing the kids and even making mone for the owners (perhaps ☺) . for a blue print just see where Spurs are now.
I would take this scenario gladly for next year. What do other folk think? Ed001 - agree?

{Ed001's Note - I have always been in favour of building a small squad that relies on youth to cover injuries and loss of form.}

10 Feb 2016 08:47:20
I was really impressed with Stewart. I also thought the tackle on him was nasty. That could have been a leg breaker.

10 Feb 2016 09:08:43
The challenge on Stewart was appalling, not even a card. Ref bottled that.

10 Feb 2016 09:15:45
Really hope Stewart, Chirivella, Texiera and Smith have a big future at LFC. They are way more deserving of a first team place than some of our overpaid and clueless senior pros. These kids could save us a lot of money. We could easily move on the likes of Lallana, Milner, Allen, Enrique and Toure without requiring to replace them.

10 Feb 2016 11:06:01
Exactly well said.

10 Feb 2016 08:12:28
Just seen the goals from last night. Just the three defenders around the West Ham player when he scored the winner. Defence a priority to strengthen surely.

10 Feb 2016 10:21:23
They all basically dropped deeper than the flight of the ball and nothing they could have done after that to reach it.

10 Feb 2016 07:32:00
My takeout from last night was that Benteke cannot lead the line because no matter what, he cannot score. Yes he played better deeper in the field than usual yesterday, yes he put in more effort (although was caught out very often in attack being no-where near where he should be and doing the complete wrong thing) but I counted 6 golden chances to bury the game last night and he didn't manage to score any of them.

The other takeaway is that Tex, Smith and above all, Stewart, need some PL gametime because every time they play, no matter who against, they are among the most impressive performers on the field. With so many players underperforming at the moment, its time for their turn.

10 Feb 2016 07:55:25
Pretty obvious now after how many games? that benteke needs to go in summer can't score too slow and positionally inept.

10 Feb 2016 09:03:30
I think he might just surprise you all and I hope he does. Look how good his movement was last night playing with quality.

If he can get a partnership going with Studge we will be laughing.

How good would you all feel if we supported him for a bit and he came good?

10 Feb 2016 09:11:02
Alfie, all this talk about movement and partnerships is c**p if a striker cannot put the ball in the back of the net. Benteke was never going to work out at LFC, he does not fit into our style of play and he can be very lazy and frustrating at times. We need to sign a consistent goalscorer with pace in the summer because Sturridge and Ings are injury prone and Origi has much to learn.

10 Feb 2016 09:19:55
Let's see how he does with a partnership as he looked good when Studge came on, his hold up, touch and link up was really good second half.

If that goes well, gets more confidence and can be used also as an impact sub he might turn his LFC career round. He didn't do much wrong last night.

10 Feb 2016 01:45:41
I just despair at the chances Ibe gets to impress compared to texeira. He is so predictable and for me has done nothing. Tex is twice the footballer he is but I fear he will end up leaving to get regular football.

10 Feb 2016 05:21:31
I wonder if anyone knows how much effort tex puts in to training because no matter how much ability u have if you don't have the attitude to match its not going to happen.

10 Feb 2016 08:23:10
I'm starting to wonder the same about Ward. What is he not doing in training to get a game?

10 Feb 2016 00:55:07
No one likes loosing.

But on a positive note. I think Stewart was MOM for me, in previous games thought he was okay but nothing too great. But today he was top class and thought for a kid coming in against a pretty strong hammers side he did well. Lucas also did pretty well to.

Glad to see studge and couts back.

We should have finished the game in 90 mins but there you go. that's football sometimes.

It was a encouraging performance i think overall. Still getting caught out on set pieces and hopefully we will find the goal a bit more over the coming weeks!

10 Feb 2016 05:41:01
lets remember this when summer comes and we start demanding player x y and z. we have these young lads already here, let's start using them before we lose them. sadly I agree with derekpiero about texeira as klopp has aready hinted he will be leaving at the end of the season. a big mistake imo. as for kevin stewart he should start against aston villa. I have been very impressed with him.

09 Feb 2016 20:19:01
Question for Ed002 came up on the Live Chat:
Who's your favourite current LFC player?

I thought Ilori 😇.

{Ed002's Note - I would like to see Coutinho nail it.}

10 Feb 2016 01:12:32
Nice. A few people predicted that too.