Liverpool Banter Archive December 10 2017

10 Dec 2017 23:12:26
I said the other day we should stick with a winning team, especially in a Derby!

For me, the changes should have have been made on Weds against WBA, the team fourth trom bottom!

I was at the match today and whilst we should have one, for me the game would have been put to bed if we'd continued wkth the the team that played so well against Moscow. Playing Henderson was a big mistake in my opinion, yes he's the captain but he's not been playing well and needs to warrant is place again.

The smoker Lovren is moved on the better, once again costing us points with a basic error.

10 Dec 2017 23:37:57
Totally agree, it's not worth the risk. We can moan about the penalty but if we're 3-0 up by then, it matters little.
Fair enough mane could have squared it and other may have scored still, but this is our derby game, play your best team.

11 Dec 2017 08:04:52
Klopp has been rotating for weeks now to avoid the exact thing that Conte was moaning about, tiredness after their loss to WH. How do you stick with a winning team when Cou was not fit to start and we are trying to avoid another collapse like last winter? He rotated. The team was never in danger and Mane was the one who cost us.

Also, who's to say that had we played our best team, we would have won? Had Cou played injured and he got hurt even more, you would not be saying what you are saying now so the hindsight BS needs to stop esp. if you do not have the information that the manager has on players'fitness levels during preparations. You cannot analyse a situation without having information. That is simply impossible to do.

11 Dec 2017 09:16:38
The attack was going nowhere as there is no chemistry among the players.

10 Dec 2017 22:27:52
Was surprised with team selection but liked it as it shows our squad is getting stronger.

We do need to rotate and Klopp is learning lessons about EPL

Mane should have squared for a tap in but he was through on goal and he shouldn't have missed the target. It was a split second decision which he got wrong.

Salah header close but not blaming him for missing target on the one. He is going to convert more of his chances eventually and then watch out.

It was a penalty. Soft and stupid thing to do by Lovren.

Disappointing result but not Klopp's fault.

Look to get 3 points off WBA and close on Chelski and Man Utd.

At the moment I think that we are developing into a stronger squad and with some more hard word we can finish top four and have two good cup runs.

Liked it that Klopp showed anger in his interview as it means he cares about the derby.

Its history now and we move on and he will get the team up for WBA .

10 Dec 2017 23:32:47
Tommy, Klopp should get to know how much the fans are up for the Derby game, then to hear that he had made 6 changes, it took the edge from the game, also I thought too many players were in a comfort zone, it was nearly too easy at times,
we should have got the 2nd goal before we took our foot off the pedal,
if only Mane had made the easy pass, making it 2 goals up going into half time .

10 Dec 2017 19:37:54
A point gained against Chelsea and Man U - never easy to win after European games. Only 2 of the top 6 won.

Bring on West Brom and fingers crossed our Fab Four will be back.

10 Dec 2017 19:57:36
It was touched on briefly in the live chat, and apologies Ed’s as I know it’s not strictly Liverpool related, but how do we help out referees? They have one view point with a little bit of help from the linesman and 4th official but 9 time’s out of ten it is down to them and they have only a few seconds to make a decision. We, as fans, get plenty of angles so why can’t another official have this footage to give them a hand, they still won’t get all decisions correct but it will help and wouldn’t slow the game down.
Just interested to see other posters opinions on how we help the men in the middle.

{Ed002's Note - This is the difficulty of moving to a video assistant - where do you draw the line without killing the flow of the game. I am in the don't give them any help, suck it up and move on camp.}

10 Dec 2017 20:04:35
Agree with Ed002 🤝.

10 Dec 2017 20:15:38
Agree Ron, human factor is part of the game, years ago we didn’t know if the ref was right or wrong afterthought game and we just got on with it. Today we cost ourselves, Mane squares the ball it’s 2-0 game over. That’s the weakest Everton team I’ve ever seen, we should have buried them but didn’t so suck it up.

10 Dec 2017 20:20:55
Agree 100% with Ed.

10 Dec 2017 20:29:31
Agreed ed I don’t want the game slowing down it was more just someone watching the game from a far, and constantly in contact with the ref rather than the review system in cricket as that just wouldn’t work.

{Ed001's Note - it is not working anywhere they are trying VAR, it has been a mess.}

10 Dec 2017 20:42:12
Fair enough Ed001, it’ll be interesting to see how it works in the fa cup game with palace.

{Ed001's Note - have a look at the Bundesliga, it has been shambolic there, though sometimes it has worked, it has just stalled the game for so long it makes it a mess.}

10 Dec 2017 20:58:15
since it seems like everytime someone scores, we have to do a 30 sec dance, hug your teammates for another 30 secs and shout with the fans for another 30, couldn't we have a minute after the goal is scored to review whether there are any misdemeanors, similar to the NFL where (and for football only) scoring plays are reviewed, no challenges or booth reviews for anything unless it's a goal, penalty decisions? Give the penalty and then look at it on the video, the worry is it'd then slow down the game but after a goal/ giving a penalty the game is dead anyway, what do you think eds?

{Ed001's Note - that would be ok, just for goals but that is such a small part of the problem that people want fixed that I don't see it would be worth it. Just man up, refs make mistakes, as do players and manager, just get on with it when it goes against you.}

10 Dec 2017 21:52:20
I always like to look at a refs decision and see what we as a team did wrong for that situation to happen and what we did wrong in the build up to the incident. It doesn't apply to all situations obviously, but if we look at today, either Mane hit it behind Firmino (sloppy pass) or Firmino was backheeling it to no one in red, either way had Mane passed better or Firmino did something else, that penalty may never happened. No point in blaming ref, blame the things you can control.

10 Dec 2017 22:25:27
Spot on, Welsh. Mane squares that ball, there are Ox, Solanke and Salah waiting to tap it in and there is no way he misses all of them. That is what we can control and his selfishness cost us the game. Not the pen, lineup, rotation, or the ref even tho, he was poor. We score there, no issue, 3 points we move on.

11 Dec 2017 06:01:25
What we can control is Lovren acting like a central defender and actually clearing the ball with his head instead of watching it bounce behind him.

11 Dec 2017 08:11:08
Got to say I'm one of the video ref fans. Your right, it will slow down the game but there is wonderful drama to be had in rugby waiting for a result from the tv official. Unfortunately simulation has surpassed conventional methods of refereeing and the fabled man behind the goal has merited little success. And just how far does it go before there is too much? Start with offsides, hand balls and penalties and play to the whistle.

{Ed002's Note - To some extent rugby is already a stop start game and the number of scores is higher than football.}

11 Dec 2017 11:32:21
I totally agree there ed2 but I'm suggesting that the video ref can possibly add to the game. Yep it's a dreadful thought to the purists but in fairness, football is the greatest game in the world because it changes with the times. Who would have thought blatter splatter would actually help the game? Let alone the inclusion of no back pass etc. Yep, the old silver goal didn't really work but it was attempted. I'm only suggesting we shouldn't be afraid to try something new.

{Ed002's Note - Traditionally various cup competitions have been used to try something new - moving offside to be in line with the penalty area rather than half way, kick ins instead of throw ins etc.. My rear remains the stop-start nature it would cause. It has been discussed on and off for many years and I would think eventually you will see it being used on a regular basis - and then the argument would be there to expand it.}

10 Dec 2017 19:45:36
Everton rolled over today and we didn't beat them. IMO no matter how you dress it up, we messed up and dropped 2 points, and for me, Klopp has to take the blame. Out of the players available, the team selected was no where near our strongest and for a merseyside derby that's not good enough. I don't think in anyway was it a pen and Lovren was silly in giving CL an opportunity to make it a pen. When they are for your team you take them.
Klopp tried to be clever and ended up with egg on his face. This was not rotation, it was klopp being clever for the sake of it and must carry the can.

10 Dec 2017 19:58:03
Barring lovers balls up we were winning so klopp never really got it wrong. A lot of our players have played a lot of minutes and we’re approaching the busiest part of the season.

10 Dec 2017 20:06:26
I agree with you the team that thumped moscow must of been buzzing and full of confidence yet klopp leaves 6 of them out i understand its a busy period and giving players a rest but I think this was the wrong game to do it klopps desisions baffle me sometimes.

10 Dec 2017 20:07:52
KLOPP on man. 1 shot on target from a pen that shouldn't have been and he got it wrong?
Did conte get it wrong as his players were TIRED?

10 Dec 2017 20:13:17
Tommy, Another hindsight post that makes little sense. Johnbarnes is right. Klopp got it right and it would not have mattered cos regardless of lineup, Everton were going to play the same way. Lovren had a good game as he had nothing to do. One can even argue if it was a pen. cos Lewin flew to the ground like he got shot in the back. If you are peeved, you should direct your attention to Mane who messed up a glorious chance in the first half by going alone with 3 LFC players waiting for the square ball for a 2-0 tap-in. But heylet's blame Klopp cos well, he told Mane to be a selfish player. Total nonsense. Klopp got it right and cos we did not win does not make it a wrong lineup.

10 Dec 2017 21:22:00
Agree totally brover.

10 Dec 2017 22:46:56
Spot on, Taytoman. Disagree, redsteeve. Every man and his dog knows that Klopp is rotating for this busy period where we have been playing every 3 days for the past 3 weeks and frankly, we have been more than successful as we have picked up 17 points from 21 and qualified for the CL KO stages. If you did not know that he would rotate today so as to keep our boys fresh then, that is not Klopp's fault. As for the lineup, neither you nor I have the info on players fitness, injuries, fatigue and energy levels which influence selection decisions before games so how you can draw conclusions w/ o having the info to analyse, is what is truly baffling.

He put a team out there that was more than good enough to win and they WERE winning had the ref not had a knob-head moment and got conned into giving them a pen. Are you blaming Klopp for the ref's brainfart as well? Are you blaming Klopp for Mane being a jerk and not passing to his team mates for a tap in cos Mane played in midweek vs Moscow? If the answers to the questions are no then I don't see what you could possibly be moaning about.

10 Dec 2017 18:32:01
I found milners selection baffling. He is poor in midfield I honestly don't and never had rated him but I'm not going to pull him apart. To rest players and them bring them on for the win has never made sense to me. Play them get into a position to win then rest them. Solanke looked out of his depth today and was on the pitch far too long today he should of been subbed earlier as he was anonymous today. To me Everton never troubled us but the selection stifled us. It was never a penalty but that's football. Just wish we had played pur strongest line-up got into a comfortable position and then rested players.

10 Dec 2017 18:47:29
If you think Milners poor try watching Lukaku.

10 Dec 2017 19:11:28
Not picking Coutinho and Firmino to start really cost us today.
Pick Firmino and Coutinho, get a 3 goal lead after an hour and then take them off.

Klopp took a big gamble today on Solanke and Milner. His gamble back-fired.

10 Dec 2017 19:24:58
Ron
I thought Solanke did well.

10 Dec 2017 19:28:43
Coutinho was carrying a knock, missed training friday didn't he! every big team leaves big players on d bench every week. the eleven players we had on the pitch played Everton off the park. He's resting players this season in a hectic period, the very thing everyone was moaning we couldn't do last season with a smaller squad. if Manè passes to make it 2-0 the games over.

10 Dec 2017 19:39:30
got to agree 100 per cent, start with your best team, we would then have got 2 or 3 goals, then take off a couple of the better players .
my view is that Klopp does not understand what playing against Everton means to our fans,
making 6 changes was always going to take an edge off our play,
way too many safe passes,
Lovren actually missing the cross, then getting too near the attacker, meaning there was then contact, giving the Ref a chance to give the pen,
had Lovren just guided the player away from the goal, they would never have scored,
dont want to go to heavy on Lovren, but he cost us that goal,
to be fair, the cross from Rooney was I would say the best pass of the game,
I hope that Klopp learns something from this game,
sorry to say it, but he messed up again today,
If Mane had have passed when we had 3 or was it 4 against 3, end of first half, we would be enjoying a great win,
just to finish off,
Klopp should have left rotating the team for the game on Wed night, not against Everton .
Rant over .

10 Dec 2017 19:50:53
Not bashing him at all but solanke was anonymous today. Really not sure what game you watched supermane. But on the other hand if mane was less selfish we wouldn't be picking the bones out of it.

10 Dec 2017 20:04:35
Milner, Henderson, Moreno, Matip, Wijnaldum, Lovren, Klavan and Mignolet all receive certain flack from a minority to a large majority of fans varying on each player. Whether unjustified or deserved they still split opinion amongst fans but are all still regular first teamers under Klopp. Whether fans like them or defend them doesn't make a difference as they are all starting games regularly this season, so the only person who matters whether they rate them or not appears to be giving them his vote of confidence. Klopps stubbornness to continue with some of the named above could prove to be our handbrake this season.

10 Dec 2017 20:19:16
Questioning the lineup after a result is nothing but low hanging fruit nonsense as none of us here has the info the manager has based on fitness levels and knocks that players are carrying so to me, it is a lazy way of analysing a game.

The lineup we put out did the job and got a goal and should have been out of sight at 2-0 had Mane not been a total jerk and not square the ball to Ox and Salah for a tap in. Did the klineup affect that or is that Klopp's fault and instructed Mane to be a jerk? All in all, we had that game won and did not make hay while the sun was out, period. On the pen. Lewin dived and got lucky. We should have never been in that position cos at 2-0 up, we would have been home and dry.

10 Dec 2017 20:22:24
Jay, Klopp really does have a lots of strong points, but ha baffles me with his strange team selection and use of his subs,
sadly, this is happening far too often,
so the term Handbrake is a very good one .

10 Dec 2017 20:34:13
Had Mane been unselfish and passed to Salah or The Ox just before had time we would have been 2-0 up. Or had Lovren not fallen for Calvert-Lewins buying a Pen we would have won 1-0.
Not playing Firmino and Coutinho did not matter today, if not for individual errors we would have won.

10 Dec 2017 20:37:27
Jordan Henderson is our Achilles heel, no sense of attack, slows the play down, just look at our performances without him.

10 Dec 2017 20:42:57
Happy, did you have a problem with Klopp rotating when we have been winning games of late? If the answer is no and you were not slating him back then, please don't come out with that hindsight genius business on here as it won't work. The lineup is a non issue cos we were winning and in full control of the game. Did you consider that?

I never had an issue with Klopp rotating then cos we were winning and picking up points so I don't have a prob with it now as that did not cost us the game today. Mane's selfishness and an incompetent ref cost us.

10 Dec 2017 19:28:43
Coutinho was carrying a knock, missed training friday didn't he! every big team leaves big players on d bench every week. the eleven players we had on the pitch played Everton off the park. He's resting players this season in a hectic period, the very thing everyone was moaning we couldn't do last season with a smaller squad. if Manè passes to make it 2-0 the games over.

10 Dec 2017 19:39:30
got to agree 100 per cent, start with your best team, we would then have got 2 or 3 goals, then take off a couple of the better players .
my view is that Klopp does not understand what playing against Everton means to our fans,
making 6 changes was always going to take an edge off our play,
way too many safe passes,
Lovren actually missing the cross, then getting too near the attacker, meaning there was then contact, giving the Ref a chance to give the pen,
had Lovren just guided the player away from the goal, they would never have scored,
dont want to go to heavy on Lovren, but he cost us that goal,
to be fair, the cross from Rooney was I would say the best pass of the game,
I hope that Klopp learns something from this game,
sorry to say it, but he messed up again today,
If Mane had have passed when we had 3 or was it 4 against 3, end of first half, we would be enjoying a great win,
just to finish off,
Klopp should have left rotating the team for the game on Wed night, not against Everton .
Rant over .

10 Dec 2017 22:54:58
Happy, Klopp has been rotating for weeks now and we have picked up 17 out of 21 points so if you did not know that Klop would rotate today then sorry, you are at fault for not being attentive. That is not Klopp's fault and NO, he does not have to play his best team all the time. Conte played his best team for the past 4 games and got undone at WH. He admitted that his team was tired. This is what Klopp is trying to avoid as the busy period will kill you if you don't rotate and Klopp does not care in what game you do it in as all our games ar big games in the PL now and in the CL.

Also, it has been mentioned here repeatedly that Cou had a knock and did not train on Fri and had Klopp risked him and got further injured, would you have applauded Klopp for taking the chance? Also, do you have the info that Klopp has regarding players' fitness, energy levels, injuries and so on, all things that influence the selection process? I don't and nobody does and since that is the case, you nor I cannot say what we would do in Klopp's place as you don't have the info he has, plain and simple.

10 Dec 2017 17:34:52
Well that was very annoying to say the least, think Everton will be very happy with that point there as they Truely didn’t turn up today at all in my eyes, Lovren has too try use experience seeing what was coming DCL has gone down little to easy few times I’ve seen him, Klopp has and will need face questions with his selections today and for me very much on decision take Salah off when game wasn’t won yet .

10 Dec 2017 17:55:00
Don't think we can lay the blame with lovren today after all its a contact sport they are playing. There was absolutely no push on Calvert Lewin and he should be done for diving because call a spade a spade that's what it was and we were completely screwed by a very poor refereeing decision. The one that cost us today is mane unfortunately through his own search for glory. Its unforgivable what he done and he should sit out a game or 2 to think about letting his teammates down.

10 Dec 2017 18:17:43
There is absolutely no excuse to put his hands on his back in that position. The striker is always going to make the most of any contact. Did he buy the penalty, of course, but don’t give him the chance.

You give the referee a decision to make then don’t be surprised when they occasionally make a poor one.

10 Dec 2017 18:23:27
So it was a dive then wassa. Then he should now be reprimanded for conning the official.

10 Dec 2017 18:25:17
Disagree wassa, hardly a push, put his hands up to stop himself from body checking Lewin and he dives, poor refing in my book, but we move on.

10 Dec 2017 18:52:30
If anything Calvert Lewin stepped into lovren but somehow Craig what's his face sees it as a penalty. No way was it a pen. The refereeing in the premier league is nothing short of abysmal bar 2 or 3 decent refs. The referee and mane cost liverpool today and nothing to do with personnel or tactics. Liverpool were coasting the game unthreatned until the poor decision and should have already been out of sight anyway if it was not for mane's selfish play #theteamcomesfirst#.

10 Dec 2017 18:52:30
If anything Calvert Lewin stepped into lovren but somehow Craig what's his face sees it as a penalty. No way was it a pen. The refereeing in the premier league is nothing short of abysmal bar 2 or 3 decent refs. The referee and mane cost liverpool today and nothing to do with personnel or tactics. Liverpool were coasting the game unthreatned until the poor decision and should have already been out of sight anyway if it was not for mane's selfish play #theteamcomesfirst#.

10 Dec 2017 19:51:04
yes Redmick, Calvert Lewin stepped into Lovren, then went down too easy for me,
But we are talking about an International defender, who should have read and headed away the cross from Rooney, great cross it was, ok, Lovren misses the cross, then falls into the trap, giving the Ref the choice to make, pen or no pen,
we should have been 3 goals up at that stage,
ask Klopp why he made six changes for a massive derby game .

10 Dec 2017 20:29:33
Happy, if you think we should have won by 3 goals and we did not, Klopp is not your prob. Mane is, as he had a poor game and don't get me started on the pathetic excuse of a pen that the ref gave. Lewin threw himself at Lovs, and flopped to the ground and the ref (who seemed keen on giving Everton something all game) bought it.

10 Dec 2017 21:22:43
Mane had a poor game no doubt about it. Mane normally makes the right decision but not to pass for a certain goal was as bad as Lovren giving away the cheap penalty. When Salah went off we ran out of ideas. The subs contributed nothing at all.

Salah is our number one player, without him we would be about 7th IMO.

10 Dec 2017 15:05:32
My post from earlier, so looking forward to the next 3 goals and rooneys red card 😂

10 Dec 2017 11:20:27
I think Everton will defend for their lives and play dirty, it will keep us out for about 40 mins, then we will score, Everton will completely lose the plot, get a player sent off and we will win 4-0.

10 Dec 2017 15:52:09
Oooops.

10 Dec 2017 15:58:42
Lovren - thick as two short planks.

10 Dec 2017 17:11:09
Personally can't really have a go at lovren. It wasn't a penalty. If we had taken our chances it wouldn't have been a problem. The player selection was more baffling to me.

10 Dec 2017 17:28:40
Lovren does nothing wrong. It's a poor decision from ref. The occasion has got to him n hopefully he'll be punished for it. Lovren makes no pushing movement with his hands, the forward moves into lovren. Williams does it every time but the ref chooses not to give that. only he can explain that. 2nc half we were not urgent enough for me. But I'm sure that decision will even itself up next time we are 3 nil up! Everton were shocking. But 3 points on weds will make it seem like a distant memory.

10 Dec 2017 17:29:55
Why not
There was no need to lay hands on his back
The player was running away from the goal
How many points is Lovren going to cost us before we buy reinforcements in January.

10 Dec 2017 17:34:43
Definitely wasn't a pen. It was similar to last week at Brighton.

10 Dec 2017 17:58:17
Pen or not he shouldn’t have found himself in such a good position with what was Everton’s only forward pass of the game.

10 Dec 2017 19:12:59
Of course it was, but I don't blame lovren I blame the man who didn't replace him in the summer and plays him every week, the same man who gifted them an early Christmas present with his side and substitutions.

10 Dec 2017 20:36:22
Waro, can we talk about the Elephant in the room .

10 Dec 2017 20:37:00
No it was not, Waro. Watch it again. Lewin threw himself at Lovs, drew the contact and flopped to the ground, plain and simple. What was Locvs supposed to do? Disappear like a ghost? Nonsense. Lovren did nothing wrong. Your ire should be focused on Mane who IMO, lost us the game cos had he squared his chance to Salah or Ox, it is 2-0 and job done.

I find it interesting that you are now here spouting crap about Klopp not replacing Lovs whereas in the past 6 games where we have scored 20 plus goals and won 5 out of last 7 games (2 draws) in the PL (with Lovs in the team, btw), you were absent. As Shankly said, "If you can't support us when we lose (or draw), don't support us when we win".

10 Dec 2017 13:24:04
I can see plenty of cards brandished today, think Sam will have Everton kick our boys to bits.

10 Dec 2017 13:28:01
Fat Sam going to Fat Sam, I guess.

I'm really only worried about set pieces. We have an obvious weak link (Migs) and I fully expect Allardyce to put players in his way on corners and then aim the corner right in onto the six yard box.

10 Dec 2017 13:43:04
Milner in centre midfield is a poor choice.

10 Dec 2017 14:02:37
Would rather grujic started in midfield than milner to be honest.

{Ed001's Note - he is injured.}

10 Dec 2017 14:16:45
Maybe not then haha.

10 Dec 2017 14:34:16
Ed01, what have you heard from your sources about how Grujic is getting on in training and U-23 matches? Will he be fighting for a starting position next season?

{Ed001's Note - well they think he lacks a bit of awareness and positional sense, hence the move to playing him deeper, to allow him to see more of the play and get an idea of what is happening. It really depends on how he gets on this season and how quickly he develops.}

10 Dec 2017 12:58:48
Half time
Southampton 1-0 Arsenal!
With chelsea losing yesterday, if Southampton can hang on, at least one Manchester club dropping points.
If we can get the blues, what a weekend that would be!

10 Dec 2017 11:43:27
Big day ahead for red men today. Let’s bope big performance like midweek and reduce them few attempts and as little possession as possible with crowd on our side, what’s everyone’s predictions? I say 3-1 also anyone going take care with conditions YNWA.

10 Dec 2017 13:04:11
On the way up from Cardiff the roads and traffic have been murder, let's hope for three points.

{Ed0333's Note - Drive safe mate

10 Dec 2017 16:25:22
Thanks ed.

10 Dec 2017 11:08:37
Derby day has arrived!

What would be everyone’s ones inspiring sentence to the team before the game?

10 Dec 2017 11:18:25
Win or you walk home. Lol.

10 Dec 2017 11:21:33
if its brown, drink it down, if its black, send it back!

10 Dec 2017 11:22:31
This is anfield.

10 Dec 2017 11:43:17
Chew the toffees hard!

10 Dec 2017 11:46:40
It’s Everton it’s only Everton :)

10 Dec 2017 12:52:53
listen lads just give the ball to firmino, coutinho, mane or salah the rest of you just defend.

10 Dec 2017 13:18:33
For the 96.

10 Dec 2017 13:57:14
Spot on, Scarry. the back 4 and both mid's in CM. should just make us hard to penetrate and let the front 4 figure it out up top.

10 Dec 2017 10:28:10
Liverpool live chat, 7pm tonight.
The Charity teams' players will be selected by the managing eds (Ed001 and Ed002).
see you there!

10 Dec 2017 11:21:24
Ed001 please play Harry as a DM, let him show us all how it’s done. 👍.

{Ed001's Note - that would be an unfair advantage, be like getting a ringer in.}

10 Dec 2017 11:36:13
When did the playerd get decided and when/ where is it being played?

{Ed001's Note - tonight we are picking.}

10 Dec 2017 11:46:21
Sorry I am well confused is this an actual football match or is it on PlayStation I've read the posts and confused myself more.

10 Dec 2017 12:18:46
It's a real match in the summer. In which we are getting together to raise money with either eds picking a charity each.
The first 30 to apply have been passed on to the eds for them to scrutinise and pick their teams, live tonight.

10 Dec 2017 12:52:41
Harry has to wear a full real madrid strip embrazoned with 'kovacic'.

10 Dec 2017 17:48:34
OK thanks for clearing that up. I look forward to watching. I recon Harry for man of match.

10 Dec 2017 05:18:17
So its not just the derby day! It's my birthday. All I ask for my birthday is a win to celebrate.

10 Dec 2017 06:27:36
Lol Happy birthday pal, hope they get a win for you!

10 Dec 2017 07:39:03
Thanks mate!

10 Dec 2017 07:51:00
Awh happy birthday pal😁.

10 Dec 2017 08:24:09
Happy B Day, RedEka. Hopefully, our boys can give you a win vs the Bitters as a warm gift.

10 Dec 2017 09:31:06
Have a good one mate! Let’s get a massive win.

10 Dec 2017 11:07:43
Thanks guys! ❤️🙏.

10 Dec 2017 11:13:07
Have a great bday.

09 Dec 2017 17:16:49
Ed 1 I know there's been a fair few center backs mentioned but who do you personally think would be the best fit to help solve are problems?

{Ed001's Note - probably Koulibaly.}

10 Dec 2017 07:24:51
Yeh looks a cracking defender ed . What’s your opinion on gimenes? Being on a free we would be daft not to look at him.

{Ed001's Note - do you mean Jose Gimenez of Atleti? If so I like him a lot but I don't think we are going to get him, sadly.}

10 Dec 2017 08:19:19
Yeh mate I take it he’s going somewhere else?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know off the top of my head where he is going, but I know both Barca and Real Madrid would take him in a heartbeat. My hunch is he will move to the other side of Madrid.}

10 Dec 2017 08:28:03
Talking about DM's or the type that Klopp wants (one who is dynamic and can break up play, win possession and launch attacks), I saw Obiang vs Chelsea and he was very good for them. He has decent passing range, physical in the tackle and can get forward when the oppo. presents itself. I know Klopp looked at him last season as well, cos you said so hence, the reason I focused on him during the game. Do you think he has the abilities that Klopp is looking for and if the interest is still there? Cheers, man.

{Ed001's Note - personally I like him and said so last season that I think we missed out. The interest has yet to show any signs of being revived but I would see it as the club believing he is potentially a little too similar to Keita, though I would disagree on that.}

10 Dec 2017 14:02:26
Thanks, Ed. Like you, I do not see any similarities btw Obiang and Keita myself but go figure. I am with you on Obiang cos he is very talented and never seems to be out of position. We'll see if Klopp goes back in for him again.