Liverpool Banter Archive April 10 2017

 

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10 Apr 2017 23:22:26
Ed's - can you add a new rule where anyone saying: "He's world class" is censored? Or shot?

Unless asking for more of what I just said above.

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11 Apr 2017 00:48:19
That's a world class post.


11 Apr 2017 02:02:57
Your world class lad.


11 Apr 2017 17:05:09
that was a worldie .


11 Apr 2017 17:09:03
To this day i still have no idea where the term 'world class' came from and what it actually means.


10 Apr 2017 21:53:43
I have to say WOW Sakho! Another quality performance for Palace. Klopp should really consider the stance he is taking as he is better than every one of our CB's. We definitely need him, just depends weather him and klopp could sort their 'problem' out! Get sakho back!

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10 Apr 2017 22:17:36
I thought Kelly played better an neater.


10 Apr 2017 22:21:14
I disagree. Lots of players look good in the lower teams. We ended up buying loads of them and they couldn't reproduce for Liverpool.


10 Apr 2017 22:28:22
Sahko has been playing well it must be said. I wish there was some way to resolving Klopp and his issues but it seems like a pipe dream. It will be interesting to see who we get in the summer considering klavan was sahkos replacement.


10 Apr 2017 22:28:30
We'll get a good price for him đź‘Ť.


10 Apr 2017 22:31:48
I agree with razor sharp

Benteke likes to pretend to be a super star when he's not expected to do as much as when he plays for a better team

Same as sakho

Didn't u see carragher try his best to sell him to big San! It was hilarious
Trust me sakho would still be like bambinon ice at Liverpool
Lfc need solid defenders like aldereld or van dijk is decent.


10 Apr 2017 23:03:38
Sakho is playing in a system that suits his style but I don't think he is the sole reason for Palace's resurregence. What about Townsend, Zaha and Benteke, Cabaye and the list goes on. Big Sam has something to do with it as well.


11 Apr 2017 00:02:25
Klopp has no issues with Sahko. It is Sahko who has issues with obeying instructions and being accountable so people should stop blaming Klopp for Sahko's disgraceful, disrespectful and undisciplined conduct. It is getting ridiculous.

He may be playing well BUT he plays in a system that has two DM's in front of him, in a team that sits deep and playing counter-attacking football. Hence, all he has to do is sweep up behind. We have seen what Sahko is like as he has been here fro 3 years with us conceding 150 goals in that span. Suddenly, he's Franco Baresi and hence, should be forgiven for his sins just like that? Get a grip!


11 Apr 2017 03:15:43
funny seeing people trying to bash sakho's quality just so our defence doesn't seem so bad in comparison. sakho is twice the player of klavan and lovren and arguably better than matip. unfortunately he has an ego that matches that which klopp does not like.


11 Apr 2017 03:35:38
I don't understand. When Sakho was here (and let's not forget that he was also injury prone, and drug taking prone, and silly behaviour prone. ) we had as terrible a defence as we have now.

it this the Llori effect taking over again? fans just wanting what we don't have to hopefully solve our problems? c'mon now.


11 Apr 2017 06:42:11
Agreed it's not like we had a good defensive record last year or the year before that or the year before that. He probably is better than the players we have but playing a deep line like CP do either with full backs playing narrow or in a back three and with a DM in front definitely helps. End of the day we should hopefully get a bit of money for him in the summer.


11 Apr 2017 17:04:05
Palaces back 4 all sit back, especially in the big games, often with a DM in front of them too.
So it is a complete different style of defending to what is expected at Liverpool.
Sakho is a good defender nobody questions that, but the style palace play is the reason he now looks like a world beater.


10 Apr 2017 21:47:06
Obviously ye can tell by my name that Sakho is my favourite player closely followed by Emre. I know Klopp wants him gone due to his behaviour, just really is a sad ending for such a talented defender. He single handily has saved Palace from relegation. I know no player is bigger than the club and I respect klopps decision even though I don't agree with it, but if/ when he leaves permanently we need to sign a top quality centre back. Wish Mamadou the best going forward a true great defender although a lot of people don't rate him because he looks awkward on the ball.

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10 Apr 2017 22:00:28
Got to keep him.


10 Apr 2017 22:00:37
Sakho lacks pace like Lovren and isn't actually great playing a high line. Liverpool plays very high up the pitch hence the chances of someone running behind our CB's are very high. Sakho won't solve this issue mate. People are not looking at the braided picture.

We thought the same and brought Lovren. Look what happened. The team conceded an awful lot of goals in Sakho's presence as well.
But I agree he is million mile better than Lovren and Klavan combined. He also has a stellar passing attribute. Ideal for 3 at the back and him playing the sweeper role.


10 Apr 2017 22:17:36
Don't really recall Sakho being beaten by pace, Matip isn't really that quick either. With fast full backs they can often cover for the centre backs. Sakho reads the game brilliantly so he doesn't have to rely on his speed to cover, always in the right spot.


10 Apr 2017 22:19:03
Sakho lacks pace? Judged by a wingers criteria, perhaps, but at CB he has good pace.


10 Apr 2017 22:29:40
Sahko is faster than all our centre backs.


11 Apr 2017 00:04:04
Sahko does not lack pace neither is Lovren a slug. Sahko has pace to burn and would be starting next to Matip now had he not been a right bell.


11 Apr 2017 08:00:29
SaKho best quality is his distribution after winning the ball,

I don't think there is anyway back to us for him but somebody show me where we get a replacement of the same quality

I think Klopp could say that everyone starts off next season with a clean slate.

It shows that he is the boss but SaKho is playing for his future.

We as a club have nothing to lose in trying this as if the lad messes up again then off he goes. but we have everything to gain if he knuckles down and takes his chance.

Hopefully we will have Champs league next year and he has big game experience in the centre half position which is our biggest problem area.


11 Apr 2017 08:35:19
Sakho was beaten all ends up by Dortmund. They literally tore a new one. It's easy to nutmeg Sakho on one on one as well. Once he loose the marker he has no chance of recovery. That being said he is a terrific passer of the ball. An ideal sweeper CB.


11 Apr 2017 10:03:52
Sakho lacks pace is like saying crouch lacks height.
His pace and strength are his best assets. i believe that he would form a formidable partnership with matip next season. it would also mean we could allocate the centre back money elsewhere.


11 Apr 2017 17:14:54
Ha Sakho was beaten all ends up by Dortmund, that game still stands as one of the best Liverpool game in the last few years, tell me, who scored at Anfield, which team went thru, Sakho and Lovren were brilliant together in those games, and Dortmund went home not knowing what just happened, Liverpool were on fire second half .


11 Apr 2017 17:24:03
N Red, but he was a right bell, and that's it. I was glad when we signed him and gutted he's leaving and yes he's showing some quality now but as others have said already our defence was just as bad with him previously in it than this year without him. Matip is our only defender I have any real faith in and we'v still already seen him make some simple mistakes.

More than anything, above a keeper or lb, mane replacement or striker we need a positionally Savy, aerially dominant defender who is a leader and organiser, something we've missed since Carra and Sami.

A vidic or terry type defender should be a priority. Klavan, bless him isn't good enough, Lovren is inconsistent at best, Matip seems to be injured a lot and Gomez hasn't played in Christ knows how long, so maybe even 2 new CB? Either way I trust Klopp to sort it.


10 Apr 2017 21:41:14
I'm watching this palace arsenal game and sakho has turned into Nesta. Surely his price is rising quicker than salmon, can't him and klopp just hug it out.

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10 Apr 2017 21:50:24
Nop, But we could recoup a decent sum on him which is actually not a bad idea though!


10 Apr 2017 21:53:05
Totally agree.


10 Apr 2017 23:26:10
Price is now starting at 30 million .


11 Apr 2017 00:06:04
I thought Kelly played a blinder tonight as weel. Of all the players that BR stupidly sold, he is the one we should have kept and helped overcome his injuries to become a good defender as he is a Carra type defender as in, good in the air, strong in the challenge, nerves of steel and great work ethic.


10 Apr 2017 21:40:32
Who whoul take a swap deal of Sakho for Zaha?

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10 Apr 2017 21:52:20
I was about to ask / write on him. Looks very good for his age and if given the right system he would be simply unstoppable. He could play in multiple positions, Great pace and he works very hard. First touch is quite questionable but he has a good technique. I would definitely take a punt on the lad.


10 Apr 2017 21:53:22
Rather have sahko.


10 Apr 2017 22:30:04
Zaha is very direct and can beat his man, looks like he is a man who wants to prove the mancs wrong. Only issue is in the AFCON we'd be missing him and Mane!


10 Apr 2017 23:28:35
good point Mr Dennis, how about the lad from Leicester, Grey, I think that he has great potential .


11 Apr 2017 00:07:32
Zaha is lazy, inconsistent (for years) and does not work as hard as ANY of our forwards so no thanks.


11 Apr 2017 07:40:55
Man U fiasco showed Zaha shouldn't leave Palace again and probably showed if ge does should stay local as looks like he never settled there.


10 Apr 2017 20:26:19
Hey guys, just wondering where is the best place to buy tickets for home games? First timer and want to experience that Anfield atmosphere!

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10 Apr 2017 20:55:35
You need to be a member mate first which then allows you into members sales for tickets. Hard to get though.


10 Apr 2017 18:07:20
Paul Joyce claiming today that Liverpool will try and sign Ryan Sessegnon in the summer. One off the Eds said last week we couldn't sign him because off the transfeer ban on youngsters. So the question is can we bid for him or not ?

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{Ed002's Note - It has been dealt with - I explained in the Sharkopod ages ago about the Liverpool interest. If Liverpool are willing to include this 16 year old as part of the first team squad then sure.}

10 Apr 2017 21:38:50
Would take sessegnon all day long. He won't always be 16.


10 Apr 2017 22:30:36
17 in May?


10 Apr 2017 15:07:25
Is it possible that Clyne may leave in summer? Think he has been steady this season but not great. I no we have trent coming through but would he be first choice? Personally would like to see us try to get kieran trippier. Would spurs be willing to sell?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no intention of selling Clyne.}

10 Apr 2017 20:28:56
Clyne is not great but equally is not one of the priorities who needs replacing.


11 Apr 2017 08:33:27
I think the only reason Clyne isn't an absolute priority to replace is TAA looking to stake a claim in the first team - he is the replacement - if we didn't have TAA then right-back would be as important as left-back to focus on.


11 Apr 2017 11:01:57
Didnt we try to sell clyne last summer?


10 Apr 2017 14:28:43
Hi Eds,

With the 2 year Acdamy player ban. Does that mean that we would be unable to sign Ryan Sessegnon? or could we sign him on a Pro deal when he turns 18?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - pro deals can be signed at 17.}

10 Apr 2017 13:30:11
Hello EDs. Suggestion that LFC could spend close to 200 million this summer - think it might have been the echo suggesting it. Question is, do you expect anything like this level of spending from us?
I can't even see us spending 100 million. Surely we don't have the finances to spend at that level, even if we did move a number of players on.

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot estimate the amount Liverpool will spend - I suspect it is simply speculation.}

10 Apr 2017 14:05:17
Where did you find that information from? No club ever publishes that so the information you have is nothing but fake news.

Also, I didn't see us spending 34m on Mane either as yet we did so I would hold on and see what happens before passing premature judgement on something that has not happened yet.


10 Apr 2017 14:30:12
There is no fixed budget. Pretty sure Klopp will look to strengthen some key areas of the squad like a new LB, CDM, CB, RB and a winger. Getting these positions sorted will possibly cost the club around 100 million itself and i think Klopp's business will be done for the summer. Any more signings will be dependent on key players leaving so the 200 million budget is just fantasy.


10 Apr 2017 14:42:03
I'm not an expert on FFP but I'm pretty sure Liverpool don't have that kind of cash to spend surely!


10 Apr 2017 15:21:53
Seen the article you're talking about. 100m plus 100m from selling players.


10 Apr 2017 15:49:21
It's pure guess work, the article states we will look to move on Sturridge, Sakho and a few others bringing in a fair amount of money but if we can't get the players we want I'm sure we won't be stupid enough to spend for the sake of it. If first choice options are viable I'm sure we will spend in the summer but bear in mind we are not the only clubs looking at Brandt, Dembele, Keita etc.


10 Apr 2017 20:25:43
100 mill from selling players lol? Which players. We might have to give cash to the buyers to take our players!


10 Apr 2017 20:56:20
As the eds say there is no set budget. If the right player is there at the right price then money is available.

Also 200mil isn't what it used to be.

As for the 100mil from player sales. sakho, sturridge, markovic, mignolet. to name a few.


10 Apr 2017 23:32:11
we should get 50 mill just on Sakho and Sturridge alone, so 100 mill on outgoing players is doable .


11 Apr 2017 10:32:19
50mil for Sakho and Sturridge? You must be having a laugh. One of the Eds has already said that teams will be looking to get a loan-to-buy for Sturridge and we'll be lucky to get back what we paid for Sakho. Add to that the ÂŁ5m we might get for Migs, ÂŁ2m for Lucas (apparently) and maybe ÂŁ10m for Markovic were not even close to ÂŁ50m let alone ÂŁ100.
The only way we get to triple figures is if we lose Coutinho and that's the worst thing that could happen.


10 Apr 2017 11:41:31
hi eds got a question that i would like your opinion on. With Klavan looking a real mess at times and Lovren being inconsistent at best, would it be worth trying Gomez alongside Matip, now i haven't seen much of him since his return from injury and i hope to see him play tonight for the u23 side. from what i've read a lot is expected from gomez in the future and the biggest problem i forsee is that its a new partnership, so really the question is, in the long run is fourth place worth the risk to do this as it could be the pairing for the future.

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{Ed001's Note - I said that all along, Gomez would make mistakes, he is young and coming off the back of a long term injury, but he would learn from them and be better in the future. Klavan has made numerous mistakes, but he is not going to improve now, he is passed his best, so there is nothing to gain from him getting experience.}

10 Apr 2017 10:51:32
Hopefully Michael Beale will soon start to keep his mouth shut.

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10 Apr 2017 12:02:28
Beale was giving his opinion, a right all human beings are entitled to. So what if he thinks Sakho deserves another shot at LFC? The guy's a quality left footed CB who would improve our back line no doubt and good left footed CBs are a rare breed nowadays. If we do sign a left footed CB in the summer to partner Matip, then the chances that he would be better than Sakho are extremely slim.
I have no idea what actually happened between Klopp and Sakho, but if there is any chance that both can sort out whatever issues they have between them, then the biggest winner in said situation would be LFC.


10 Apr 2017 12:14:26
Why? What'd he say?


10 Apr 2017 12:38:29
You talking about his interview with Sky Sports re Sakho?


10 Apr 2017 13:49:17
I think he's got a point though, I look at the CBs we have at our disposal and I think Sakho is better than every one of them.

If Sakho did show humility upon stepping down to the U23s and could "not have been a better professional" then I really hope the situation is not a lost cause, although I suspect it is.


10 Apr 2017 14:05:01
He has a point I agree with him infact but stop talking about Liverpool you're not employed here anymore. All he's done is put unnessasary pressure on the club and klopp and the sakho situation which the club wants to be over.


{Ed001's Note - was he asked about it? Or did he mention it out of the blue? Before digging at the guy, you might want to check that simple point.}

10 Apr 2017 14:20:03
Assistant manager, I doubt he'll be keeping is mouth shut to be honest.


10 Apr 2017 15:03:08
Beale has a right to his opinion even tho, I disagree. Sahko has been here for 3 years where we conceded 150 goals in the PL. That means he's part of the problem. Also, his atrocities and undisciplined behavior have been well documented since his days at PSG and at LFC. But suddenly now, he's the messiah and the seconf coming of Paulo Maldini even tho he has contributed to our defence not being good enough while him being here.

I am a true Sahko fan BUT his conduct has been disgraceful and will not be tolerated. The guy takes responsibility for nothing at all and till this day, has not apologized for repeatedly flouting the manager's authority. That's not even it. What's worse? It is that there are fans who are giving him a pass and don't care how much he disrespects the manager and flouts his orders, all cos "he's our best CB"? HE IS NOT.

If Beale wants to tolerate insubordination in his team, that's his problem BUT Klopp doesn't have to REGARDLESS of how many goals we concede. The manager decides who gets to play and if a player is being a disgrace and disrespectful to the manager, then OFF he goes.


10 Apr 2017 20:22:19
I've never really commented on the Sakho situation before as I always felt Klopp did the right thing but now I kind of agree with Beale. Yes Sakho was acting like an idiot and then a spoilt child BUT since then Sakho has done nothing but act like a professional. He took his punishment and dropped down to the reserves like a man without complaint, he has gone out on loan and just did his best. Whether he's better than what we have is irrelevant, you cannot let any player do what they like, it just destroys a dressing room. The biggest point for me is how did he respond to his punishment? As far as I can see, and we don't get told everything, he's been the model professional, even expressed a desire to play for us again. I could be wrong but that says to me that he's a man that's learned his lesson. It would send out a positive message to others too, it would show that if you just shut up, knuckle down and work hard there's always a way back. My opinion anyway, obviously we as the public don't get told all the facts but it's my opinion based on what I've heard or seen.


10 Apr 2017 20:26:39
We couldn't defend with anyone. That has been the case from 4-5 years now. Sakho is just another proposition people want to throw at. ( If he had him ) . If he had him he would have made some other mistakes. And how would that actually matter? We play an open game with poor full backs and no real stopper. It's like, You are up against a Japanese bullet train on counter attacks. No one could stop it. Our manager priorities elsewhere.

Did not the front 4 of Dortmund bullied and outclassed Sakho? He too buckles up on pace and his heading is like water melon bouncing of from a truck.


10 Apr 2017 21:49:51
spot on Harry . Do people not remember how suspect he was playing for us . I respect Beale and he is entitled to voice his opinion if asked . I also don't recall Sakho being to apologetic in the article .


11 Apr 2017 08:12:01
Is SaKho better than what we've got wearing the red shirt? Yes Way better

Will Klopp consider this point at the end of the season? No chance.

In my opinion give the lad a chance,
What's there to lose?


10 Apr 2017 04:31:27
Dear Ed's
Posting here after a long time but I keep reading the posts and your replies, I have to admire that this is 'The Best' Liverpool supporters site.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much GLFC. I can only imagine how bad the rest must be in that case ;-)

10 Apr 2017 04:17:16
Ed's, three part question. One do you see wijnaldum having much of a role next season? He's a fine player but surely his quality should only see him as a squad player not a starter. He just isn't quite good enough to be in the team week in week out. The second part is, I know we've been linked with a fair few midfielders, but what about grujic? I know he's young and probably should have been loaned this season, but do you see him getting more game time or will we look to loan him? The third and more controversial is Henderson. And before I go any further, let me say that I love the lad and he is a top, top player. But his reoccurring injury with no solution will see him miss chunks of our season every year. We can't bring in another top midfielder and expect them to play second fiddle and likely we can't afford the wages. Do you think we will look to move him on? Again, I don't want to see it happen from a fan point of view. But I would think the manager would want someone more reliable? The heart says keep him he's great, the logical brain part of me says if the price is right. :^/.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry are you being serious about Wijnaldum? His quality has never been an issue, even as a youngster, when Liverpool looked at signing him back then, he had quality in abundance. So long as he continues to show the right attitude, which he has done, then he is good enough to be a regular. Did you not see his assist against Stoke?

Grujic had a lot of injuries, there is no way of knowing what will happen with him right now. It is up to him to decide whether he wants to knuckle down and fight for his place or leave for first team football. He needs some luck with injuries no matter what happens.

Hendo will stay this summer, but, long term, it is a situation the club would like to solve, one way or another. We are currently looking for players for the role he would play when fit. Take from that what you will....}

10 Apr 2017 06:10:15
I questioned wijnaldum signing but over the last month or so I think he's really stepped up and has been one of our best players.

Ed I'm not surprised the club are looking at players for Hendersons position, I reckon a similar year to this one with injuries then he will be off next summer.


10 Apr 2017 07:08:20
Fantastic insight Ed1:

Is Can not seen as Hendo's potential replacement? Or do the club see him as having a different role? (I know he still hasn't signed a new deal - not sure if this affects this)

Also, could you give us any names of who we've been looking at replacing Hendo with?

Thanks in advance.


{Ed001's Note - we have European football, so need more players than we have, Can will not be able to play every game. I have mentioned a few before, Obiang was the most likely to come in to strengthen the squad before his injury, not sure if that has changed things or not.}

10 Apr 2017 07:27:02
Thanks Ed1. Do you mean Obiang the West Ham player? Is he that good?

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Henderson long term.


{Ed001's Note - yes and he is a different type of player from what we have. Only way to find out if he is good enough is if we sign him. Personally I have liked what I have seen, and West Ham hit their bad patch the moment he got injured.}

10 Apr 2017 07:32:07
Thank you very much for your replies Ed.


{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

10 Apr 2017 10:24:07
Wijnaldum didn't come cheap, but you know what, he has been very consistent for me. bombing up and down. He has made mistakes, but at least his contribution far outweighs the mistakes he has done.


10 Apr 2017 10:25:26
Wijnaldum is restricted in his role at Liverpool. He is someone who should get into the box more often. But due the way we play and without a stopper. He is hardly asked to bomb forward. He could score goals and that's pretty much clear only if you remove his shackles. He would excel along side a good DM.
Grujic should have never been bought.


10 Apr 2017 10:28:30
It's difficult for Grujic as he's still a young lad and growing so it's almost like with Gerard's and the injuries he suffered at a similar age, he's got loads of time to develop so patience and space to develop and grow is what he needs.


10 Apr 2017 10:29:43
Obiang is a not a holding midfielder and I don't see any reason to buy him. I have absolutely no idea how would he replace Henderson the DLP.


10 Apr 2017 10:30:32
Wijnaldum has been absolute quality, his passing range is excellent as shown by his assist vs Spurs and stoke. He's proactive and constantly on the move and looking for the ball. He's a really intelligent midfielder, no idea how you could assume he should just be a squad player.


{Ed001's Note - by the way, no one said he should replace Henderson, only that we are looking at more central midfielders due to Hendo's ongoing injury problems. The idea being to phase him out next summer, not this year. I should have made that clearer before Harry gets on his soap box.}

10 Apr 2017 10:41:30
Wiji just needs to stop panicking when he finds himself deep. Pushing up he's one of our most effective midfielders but twice in two games now he's made horrendous back passes for certain goals (this time Mings managed to get him out of trouble) that would go on to cost us points. In both games he equalled out the damage but giving away those opportunities will be costly eventually, and he needs to stop it now.


10 Apr 2017 11:47:35
I wouldn't even classify henderson as a holding midfielder to be honest. Some players are adaptable, able to play a few roles, intelligent enough to understand the difference when asked to play different roles.


10 Apr 2017 11:26:38
Hey ed01, could you mention the other names you have heard? Also, who is seen as his long-term successor for the armband?
I sincerely hope that Hendo overcomes his injury problems, because he has been a top, top player for the club, and we would have been better if he could mature to his full potential - I am convinced he has not reached it yet, and the injuries are sadly disrupting this process. At one time I was expecting him to become a Stevie G-level determinator, and finally earn the fan-respect that he deserves.


{Ed001's Note - nobody is seen as his long term successor, the club is just making contingency plans in case he cannot recover from his injury. For next season it will be the addition of another central midfielder, someone who can add energy or drive. Like Obiang or Nzonzi (if he could be tempted to return to the Prem amid Sevilla's meltdown). Then it will be a case of having the players there in case Hendo can't recover, but if he can, then great. It just gives us another season to assess it.}

10 Apr 2017 13:30:00
Phase Hendo out Ed?


{Ed001's Note - if needed yes. Hopefully it won't be.}

10 Apr 2017 13:41:51
That defensive header though, hahaha! Aside from that he's been really good for us, don't see what people are complaining about.


10 Apr 2017 15:03:40
Llalana, Wijnaldum and Hendo are three top class midfielders. Can has blown a bit hot and cold but has shown plenty of promise and PL proven experience. Besides that we have Stewart who seems to be running out of time to get game time, Grujic who's untested but seems a decent talent, and a bunch of other youngsters like Ejaria who probably need another season of getting used to be around the first team before regular starters.

If we get into Europe (as we should from here), we're going to need cover from a decent proven player to rotate and cover injuries and even if we do we should still be plenty of scope to bring through Grujic.

I still hurt when I watch Deli Alli for Tottenham. I hope Grujic can be our equivalent one day!


10 Apr 2017 15:25:26
Wij has been solid for us all season however, he needs to refrain from offering assists to the opposition, LOL. As for Hendo, I believe Ed is right. The injuries may rob him of his LFC career as he has been a top player for us and a true role model due to his desire to win, work ethic and appetite for the game. I truly hope we don't lose him.


10 Apr 2017 17:57:16
Ed001, are these injuries of Henderson's proving Ferguson's comments on his running/ playing style to be correct? I'd hate that!


{Ed001's Note - no, they are nothing to do with that. His comments were just bitterness.}

10 Apr 2017 18:36:56
And soreness for being rejected by a 20 yr old, Ed. Don't forget that.


10 Apr 2017 22:20:31
Have we shown any interest of trying to persuade Nzonzi to leave Sevilla? Just out of curiosity.


09 Apr 2017 21:55:00
ed001 great summary of the stoke match, how would you set us up for the west brom game? I had no problem with the youngsters playing last match but like yourself I was concerned with the formation, I think klopp needs to re- think his decision to not buy another centre half in the summer as matip aside I have no confidence going forward with klavan and especially lovren going forward, Gomez I will reserve judgement on until he gets a proper chance in the 1st team, I gave countinho and firmino a bit of stick in my last post so I am more than man enough to give credit where its due, we need to build the team around those two imo nice to see countinho becoming a regular goalscorer long may it continue.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks kk7! We just need to go back to our standard formation. The players are used to it and trust it. It is simply enough to tweak it by asking the wide forwards to play narrow in behind the striker, as they did in the second half. Or other little tweaks. You don't need to change formation wholesale to make wholesale changes to the way a team plays, so why do so? Once players understand a position, the last thing you want to do is change it, as most are not intelligent enough to cope.

Personally, I am not convinced Matip is that good, he is fine when we dominate, but under pressure he has gone missing. Defensively he is suspect.}

10 Apr 2017 05:28:30
I think you're being a little unfair on Matip Ed01. Cb's are all about building a partnership and he has played quite well for someone who is in their first season in a new league. Not to mention he's CB partner has either been Lovren or Klavan who are both not the very best especially the latter. Only problem I see is he seems to be injury prone which is not something you want from your main CB.


{Ed001's Note - if that is the only problem you see, then that is up to you, but he has not played well since Karius was dropped. I am happy to give him time to prove himself, but right now he has not convinced me, nor has he shown himself to be a good defender. His positioning, strength, heading and tackling are all weak points so far. Yes, positioning can be down to the partner alongside him, he certainly does not work well with Klavan, but the rest are down to him.}

10 Apr 2017 08:09:29
Ed01 i think matip is good enough and the best we've got BUT i've said for some time we need a complete overhaul of the defence!


{Ed001's Note - I hope you are right, but he still has a lot to prove to me.}

10 Apr 2017 08:33:01
Ed01 i hope im right too! With better quality players around matip i think he's ok. Lovren? We left him when Kenny was boss i think it shouldve been left there. Clyne? I was a fan but hasn't had a good seaon. Klavan? Cover at best. Milner? Cover again. We need to address this once and for all its gone on for too long to have so much talent exciting football be able to rip teams to pieces only to see it all fall apart at the back! ! Hopeing its sorted.


10 Apr 2017 09:24:33
would have to concur with the Ed on Matip.

I posted before he arrived that in Bundesliga when the pressure was on - he went missing (maybe his heart wasn't in it) .

Fine when time on the ball, and we are dominating possession but when teams start hurling stuff at us an we are pegged back - perhaps not as good as everyone makes out.


10 Apr 2017 10:26:02
So a complete overhaul then.


10 Apr 2017 10:23:03
I agree with you over Matip, but is seriously over-rated by many of here. He just doesn't dominate, especially for someone of his size.

I have been very impressed with Harry Maguire of Hull. He is a big unit, the ball seems like a magnet to his head in the box, reads the game and has a bit of pace, a good passer and can carry the ball out when required. We should move for him before one of the other top teams do.


10 Apr 2017 10:26:06
We should be looking at two world class CB's in the summer.


10 Apr 2017 10:42:44
Matip is quality in terms of ability. In terms of leadership dominance, he's much like the rest of the squad. We still need some laeders at the back.


10 Apr 2017 11:28:27
Ok reds who should we sign defenders wise? Remember who we can attract - location, money- wages fees etc - cl?


10 Apr 2017 12:11:14
Matip is often out of position. I think he'll settle down next season especially with a half decent reliable partner and goalkeeper.
It's hard to look like a good defender when there's chaos all around.


10 Apr 2017 12:31:06
I dunno about Matip, he's had a few mishaps but he's still the best defender we have and he's still in his first season, I wouldn't look to replace him just yet, I would find him a new CB partner myself, plus a left and a right back and a goalkeeper to replace Migs.


10 Apr 2017 14:02:01
I've not seen the fuss with Matip since he signed. People on hear rave about him but I don't quite get it. He's our best defender but that's not very hard at the moment. Still, we can do better, I'd love sakho to have another chance next season and we signed another proper centre half. Not one who looks pretty with the ball at his feet when we're playing in the oppositions half but someone who will
Organise the back four, who will head every ball and get his body in the way of shots. someone who does what he's meant to do. Sakho, Matip, Gomez and a proper centre half would be a huge improvement on what we currently have!


10 Apr 2017 15:39:16
Matip has been solid for us IMO. He does need to improve his fitness and be more assertive and physical in the challenge like Carra was, as well as take charge in critical situations. He has quality, no doubt BUT there are areas he can improve on. It does help to have a capable partner next to him that can improve him and communicate better with him. That is not happening right now as well as the fact that, our defence for for years since Carra left, has lacked leaders and vocal guard dogs who get everyone in line when under pressure. Matip must improve here if he is to be the player and leader many want him to be.


10 Apr 2017 15:51:35
Ed - are we looking at a center back coming in this summer?


{Ed001's Note - we are looking at a few in case we sell, but right now there are no plans to buy.}

10 Apr 2017 17:28:15
Harry, we should buy another two centre backs?

Just like we did last year - Matip and Klavan?

Before that - Lovren and Gomez

And before that - Sakho and Illori

Etc. hasn't worked so far has it? Less is more.


10 Apr 2017 18:40:23
Puzzled, and when those two CB's (whoever they are) are struggling after the frist 3 months of the season, we chuck them out and do what? You guessed it, buy two more and the beat goes on.

It's the English way, keep throwing money at the problem until it is fixed however long it takes.


10 Apr 2017 20:23:13
I don't want to start the whole argument/ debate off again but I think Matip and Sakho could be a good partnership. I hope the way Sakho has taken his medicine playing for the reserves and then knuckled down on loan plus the desire shown to play for LFC again gives him a way back.


 
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