Liverpool Banter Archive April 10 2014

10 Apr 2014 23:20:38
Seen the pics of the Home kit - love it. but if I was a keeper then I'd be saying wtf lol

Haha. I know, laughed when Mignolet said on LFC TV that he was glad to get the colour purple. I thought, that's pink!

5 mins later my eldest lad walked in to the room and said "Mignolet's got a pink top!"

I like the home top, the away top is at least an improvement. That keepers top is awful though, poor migs. Haha

10 Apr 2014 18:59:38
Its Thursday and I'm nervous. Every game is now the biggest of the season, but this one against city is the closest rivals. Win this and its out of city's hands! Can see a few goals going in for them, I reckon 2, depends on how many we score! Kompany is a force to be reckoned with for anyone!

Kompany may be but demichellis plays he definitely isn't.
Over the last few seasons I think we have always looked the better team.
I fancy 3-1 win we were robbed at the etihad over Xmas.
On to transfers are only stumbling block is wages, but looking at the team's in the CL the other night, we would have troubled any of them.
So hopefully players wwill want to be part of something big!

I think it's going to be tight; in all honestly maybe won but who makes the least mistakes.

Silva is a wizard and Toure is going to be difficult to stop; however we can give them our own set of problems; I really fancy Sterling to play well in this game and be the deciding factor; either one on one or running from a deeper forward position (especially the decision given against him earlier in the season).

I think we have to take the same attitude to each game (win lose or draw); if we don't win we need to ensure we win our remaining games to put the pressure on.

If we win the game doesn't men we've won the league - we really need to remember that.

Totally agree hoola, they have some stars, and some weak spots, as do we!

If I remeber correctly Sturridge was out injured when we played them last. I definitely feel like he can be the difference. If Demichles starts then both he and sterling will cause him loads of problems. I see us getting the result on Sunday. That being said I'll definitely be wearing out my floor pacing throughout the game

10 Apr 2014 18:39:44
The new Kits are good. Love all 3.

Dunno about the bright yellow one like - know we've used it a good few times in the past but my retinas are burnt after seeing it. Wonder when we'll give that white and green quarter split shirt a go again.

Yeh I know what you mean,, That black and red one with the collar looks awesome though.
We've seen Red white black BLUE now yellow kits from warrior so I'm guessing the old Green and White BadBoy is next season if were champions .

I like the home kit its clean, though it looks like someone designed it on PES with all those white lines.

Only seen the home kit (unless the leaked ones are the real ones); they look good - i'd look v good in one if I hadn't meet that awful thing called Stella lol

Haha that's a boss shout haych, designed on pes, brilliant

10 Apr 2014 15:19:12
Hi Eds,

Quick question re Thiago Ilori. When we signed him I was given to believe him to be a very promising talent, quick, good feet, prem standard with a bit of help.
Now he has moved (on loan) to Granada so soon after joining do you see a way back for him to LFC given he's only 20/21?
And if not how is it possible for Brendan and his coaches to make their mind up about a player they invested in so quickly?
Cheers, and keep up the good work

{Ed002's Note - Right now the important thing is that he gets some game time. Liverpool has so many centre backs on the books that they need to clear some out in the summer and let others know where they stand - not doubt some can go out on loan.}

10 Apr 2014 13:11:56
I was on the train bored so I read the metro paper there was a story with duego forlan saying he's in contact with luis and he asjed if he should stay or go and forlan suggested luis should consider manchester united I checjed the date to see if I was reading the 1st april edition but no it was todays metro made me chuckle reading that lol

{Ed030's Note - I think he meant he advised him to join Utd before he joined Liverpool but I could be wrong.

Ed030 there's a story saying he advised him before he joined us but the metro are saying this was recent like last week more likely somebody at the metro didbt read the story right or just trying to stir up sime rubbish I seen the story about his advice before he jouned but no idea where the metro got that from

{Ed030's Note - He would have been rather stupid to advise him to join Utd, The transfer would not happen for a million and one reasons even if Suarez wanted to join. }

Forlan said something like Suarez asked him whether he should stay at Liverpool and he said the he(Forlan) told him the best the for his career would be to join Man Utd. Which was very puzzling to me when I read it.

My hypothesis: Forlan secretly wants Suarez to fail at club level due to Suarez taking the crown from him at International level.

{Ed002's Note - No - this matter arose when he was at Ajax.}

Forlans quotes are in 442 magazine where he is a columnist. Suarez asked him about Liverpool whilst at Ajax and was told to join mufc instead. Forlan does speak well about LFC in the article. I hope this clears matters up

10 Apr 2014 10:12:20
Please give me your thoughts on this everyone + Eds.

We will be playing Champions League football next year and we will be among the best. We will need good players to come in during the next window to provide quality and depth.

BR is currently getting the best out of our current squad who have a genuine desire to play for Liverpool.

How many players will it take to upset our squad in terms of morale and that genuine desire? Ill explain. Tottenham for example. They had 9 players transfer in which upset the squad which was a factor in their demise. Would 4 transfers be too much?. or would it be better if we get 2 or 3 quality players?

So, the real question is. If we have a little bit of money to spend on quality, how many NEW players would be JUST RIGHT without upsetting our current squad?

And whatever number comes to mind.What positions do you think we should rein-force.

I'm going with 2 - LB and RB. That would be enough for me. 2 quality wing backs to push us forward into the Champions League.

You?

2-3 I think. Bring back suso and borini and that makes it 4-5. I would buy a left back and a left sided forward, and maybe an attack minded midfielder. Players will also leave and will need to be mostly replaced. I don't think we need to buy too many players at all. Our first team is already the best in the league (arguably) we just need an option or two from the bench. I would rather we filled other gaps in the squad with youngsters than spending a few million here and there on players that are unlikely to get a game or make an impact. The league should be our main
priority next year, the cups and even the champions league should be second fiddle in my opinion.

Dont think more than 4 even with outs as we have a lot of loan players coming back too and the likes of wisdom and suso should be in the squad.
But four quality players including a lb, a winger and a back up striker

Wenger made a very good point regarding this beginning of the season that a lot of players going in disrupts the balance of the squad. He was talking about spurs and look what happened there.

I'd go for 2 first team players ( LB, CM ) if we just want to compete . but if we want to win the league then we should go for a new winger/playmaker
For me, Moreno and Lars Bender would be perfect buys for us . other alternatives would be Juan Bernat and Rakitic

For me it would be 2-3, keep suso, borini, and maybe Ibe (if not loan with ilori) don't keep any of the loans. Think a LB (no clue who really!) then priority would be a wide forward, think kono or yarmolenko would be my choice and if possible CM like rakitic but wouldn't mind dany parejo wouldn't be bad or maybe try loan milner or rodwell. Though if a decent bid came in for Borini or we got significantly bigger offers for other players like josep drmic or muriel. not a necessity but do play 2 forwards so having another as back up/competition would be great

We had eight incomings last summer and lost two dressing room leaders in Carra & Pepe. It hasn't caused us problems. We had five incomings in Brendans first summer in charge and 2 additional players that winter. It's not unusual if you check back that there is this type of turnover. If Reina, Cissokho, Coates, Moses, Assaidi all leave (don't think anyone disputes this five) and Agger & Aspas are sold we will need FOUR players just to make up the numbers and with Suso, Ilori & Wisdom possibly staying out on loan perhaps TWO more signings for depth. Some of these will be younger players (Hughes?) who won't be expected to go straight into first XI.

I think Bale leaving was the biggest blow both on the pitch and psychologically - when he played they always looked like they could get the goal they needed, without the mentality is different. An obvious point but had Suarez moved last summer I doubt we, regardless of who we bought in from the money, would be where we are now.

For me 4 positions need filling (the 4th may be linked to Aspas though).

LB
CM
LF
CF

I think we need someone to press Suarez and Sturridge / cover for them if suspended or needing a rest.

I'm not expecting miracles next season in the cups; League and FA we will use squad and youth players and Champions league will be a bonus how far we get (which may be dependant on the draw); need to aim for top 3 again next season.

10 Apr 2014 09:36:58
There is a story on Guardian website on ticket prices for Sundays game
Apparently they're being sold for over £2450 each by some ticket sites- this is disgraceful. I'm also sure it must be illegal so my question is why are they allowed to get away with it by the police and more importantly the club.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the police or the club.}

Sorry ed u seem to have little know on this one. its everything to do with the police if u get caught buy the poice selling tickets touting its illigal and an arrestable offence and again it has everything to do with the club its there game its there ground even though the club don't make any extra money from touting it leads to multipule problems fraud theft and so on i'd advise against buying tickets from scouts. most fixtures are relesed before we even start playing . and to thoes who pay 2500 a ticket need to look at themselfs and relise that's every game Liverpool played this season with expences would be coverd buy the price of this 2500 ticket . at the end of the day this will be more and more a problem as we have took off and no one can stop us the world wants to see liverpoool fc

{Ed002's Note - No, large numbers of tickets are legally sold through resellers.}

It prevents genuine fans getting hold of tickets, and therefore the club should identify which tickets fall into the hands of these dealers and ban them buying if they've no intention of going to the match.

{Ed002's Note - Some dealers are partners of the club; many available are unused hospitality tickets for sponsors and partners and those given away by the club for marketing purposes. The premium prices reflect that games at Liverpool generally sell out.}

If someone buys a ticket and sells it for a fee does not make that an offence. Plus would you like to pay more taxes for more police to look into it? I know I'd rather my taxes were used to catch criminals that cause mayhem and hurt. No one is forcing anyone to pay them prices, if you do then you should get dealt with by the police for section 136 of the mental health act.

{Ed002's Note - There is a difference between scalpers and resellers. And nobody would want to pay taxes for more police to look in to it.}

Call me old fashioned Ed, but selling a £50 ticket for a 5000% mark up is not really on, is it?

{Ed002's Note - If people will pay it why not? The world gets by on scalped tickets.}

Gotta agree with ed. I had ticket for champ league final in 2005. Cost me £21. Couldn't afford flight because it was £700 so sold ticket for £200. Prob could of got more but if people are prepared to pay what's the problem

Its capitalism, supply and demand. If people are willing to pay it then there will be others willing to sell it for the price. An argument could be made that it alienates working class supporters but let's face it football has been doing that for a long time - change would have to come from within football and as they are making so much money it is very unlikely to happen.

Disagree with people who think its alright to buy them just to flog on for a fat profit. that's taking one straight out of the hands of a proper fan and giving it to the prawn sandwich brigade.

If you end up stuck with a spare if someone drops out, I think giving it to a mate or mate of mate at face value is the proper fan thing to do.

@Frankly

I would never say that is is morally right but hey neither is capitalism. Its supply and demand, football has been all about the money for a long time and refuses to do anything that doesn't drive up profits. I don't like it but that's modern football - if fans wanna flog tickets for a fat profit who could blame them?

Agree with Seano - my mate paid through the nose to get to Athens in 2007; sometimes circumstances mean you can't get there; other times its people making a profit. which is not uncommon in everyday life.

By the same token I've seen people provide tickets to other fans free of charge on here.

You telling me someone knocks on your dor and offers you £500k for your £100k house you will say not mate it's too much?

I know what you mean seano.
especially when times are tough.

modern football eh?
I think you're right the change has to come from within football. clubs should set aside a good number of cheap tickets for young local fans on a match by match basis.

still its quite good sign that the prices are so high right. we must be doing something right on the field to start the silly bidding ;)

Yep i've seen the free of charge tickets here. now that I take my hat off to! unbelievably generous.

can't really answer the house question, I'm a bit of a crap capitalist I don't own one.

I am eternally grateful that I have a mate who'll get me the odd away ticket at face value though from his season ticket rights. I guess that's all I was saying. glad it doesn't go to a tout.

but yeah I can't knock someone who makes a few quid if they need it. I guess I meant the people who do it day in day out with no intention of ever going

@Frankly

'I guess I meant the people who do it day in day out with no intention of ever going'

I completely agree its not right however I think that the existence of those fans is a product of the current football economy and that, as opposed to pointing fingers of blame at individuals, we should look higher up the ladder. Out of all the FA/UEFA/FIFA measures, rules, policies, decisions we've seen how many have been for the benefit of us the fans? Few if any right. If that changes the ticket touting might also change but it seems unlikely - the world cup going to Qatar seems an obvious example of economic concerns overriding any football/fan related ones eh.

{Ed002's Note - The vast majority of the tickets that are sold via the ticketing sites are by (a) dealers who are partners of the club and authorised to sell them; (b) unused hospitality tickets; (c) tickets assigned to sponsors and partners that are unused; (d) tickets given away by the club for marketing purposes.

There will always be scalpers selling on fans tickets but the numbers involved will be far less. The majority of the clubs try to drive scalpers away from the ground - which is why you will see them outside of railway stations, metro stations etc..}

10 Apr 2014 09:07:21
Hey Ed001, any chance of us getting a review of the West Ham game from you? :)

{Ed001's Note - I actually made a conscious effort to avoid the game, as we had won the last game when I wasn't watching. I cracked at half time, I just couldn't resist checking the score and found it was 1-1 so thought I was safe to watch! I am going to watch a rerun of the whole match in a bit, as today has been the first chance I have had to sit down and look at it. I will write a proper review as soon as I have finished watching it.}

Ha superstitious are we Ed?

10 Apr 2014 08:32:32
In the meantime, to fulfil his promise of European football next season, the football genius is not to be disturbed because he is busy writing a masterpiece of a song.

10 Apr 2014 08:19:49
Who thinks we should start both Sterling and Coutinho? I'm pondering whether an option from the bench is best, I think Sterling behind SAS and a midfield three of hendo Allen and Gerrard, I can honestly see dimechelles(spelling) getting sent off up against the front three!

Sterling for me; maybe Suarez dropping deep inbetween their def and midfield and playing the direct/long ball occasionally to get Sterling in with his paace then Sturridge and Suarez attacking the spaces.

10 Apr 2014 07:21:40
So my fellow Reds, I'm in the dilemma of a lifetime

I live in Dubai and have started a new job 2 months ago. The last time I visited Anfield was the Chelsea game last season when Suarez had the Ivanovic incident.

A friend of mine (who works very closely with Mubadala - Man Cityowners) has invited me to tag along and attend the game in Anfield on Sunday in the VIP box

During my last visit, I felt I watched Saurez's last game in a Liverpool shirt and was kicking myself since I thought I brought bad luck to the team.

So the questions is: Do I take him up on his offer or use the excuse that I've just started new job so that I don't jinx the team?

This decision is proving to be harder than proposing to my wife!

Whatever you've been doing for the past 9 games, DO THAT! This goes for any Red,, change nothing!

Stay where you are and watch on TV. I am a real supporter who attends regularly but couldn't get my membership card activated for the last 3 home games due to new demand. :-(

Every game I've been to - most recent vs Norwich, we win (and in the 70's I went with my Dad to see Liverpool beat Man City 3 - 1 on a Boxing Day) - so I think it would be a good idea to suggest I go in your place.

Unless Ken is willing to lend me his lucky pants then I'll probably pass up the offer.

alonzo14 - I hope you're not taking a swipe with your "real fan" comment as I spend probably more money than you do when it comes to my cable subscription, purchases from the online store and the cost of a trip to the UK when I attend Liverpool games

Don't be daft. Go to the game and witness history in the making.

Oh just ask the prospective wife for permission and if she will let you - go!

I went to the villa match done the tour the day after the game got a coin for a pound well my gf got it for me and I mean it worked I've never been superstious before but I am now I won the grand national and a lot at Cheltenham with it in my pocket so I say invest in you you'll be fine

{Ed002's Note - Every time I have ridden my unicorn to the game, Liverpool has won.}

I have an update:

Last night the washing machine showed signs of life. It's very sporadic but I managed to get the lucky pants washed. They are currently drying on the washing line.
So hft1983, I'd say you are SAFE to go to the match. The power of the lucky pants will outweigh any previous jinx you might be concerned about.

Have a good match mate

Come on you reds!

Ft1983-I pay for cable, LFC tv online membership, adult & child ticket membership scheme and go to every game with my Son that I can get our membership's activated for.
Sorry if I sound bitter, but its more a dig at the club and its lousy ticket sales system which changed its priority system for class A games.
As long as the Reds win I'll be Happy this Sunday!:-)

10 Apr 2014 12:55:48
Ed02 after 24 years I think its understandable I am willing to try everything to make this happen haha
Also thank god ken we ok for Sunday?

10 Apr 2014 00:22:21
I hear Sakho sleeps with the light on. Not because he's scared of the dark, but because the dark is scared of him.
I hope he starts again on Sunday with Skrtel. I think we need their aggression against City. Anyone know if Aguero is fit enough?

Apparently they've banned naming streets after him. because no one is game enough to cross Sakho.!

Aguero is fit, not sure Pellegrini would start him with Dzeko in good form.

I think it'd be daft to start aguero in such a huge game but I think they will, they'll panic I'm sure of it.

When it rains sakho don't get wet, the rain gets sakho 'd

Sakho is so hard, when he does press ups he doesn't lift himself.he just pushes the world down a bit

Sakho is the only man who can slam a revolving door

The Anfield roar against Spurs wasn't the Kop, it was Sakho yawning.

Sakho looks at the grass & it cuts itself

Sakho is so hard, Chuck Norris rings him when Chuck has grief

When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, he had 3 missed calls from Sakho.

Mohamed Sakho got woke up by an aeroplane last week,,, he opened his bedroom window,,,
looked at the plane
and whispered "flap off".

Malaysian Airline MH370 hasn't been seen since