Liverpool banter 2

17 Apr 2024 09:36:53
I think Klopp's replacement has to be someone experienced, mature and able to handle the pressure. Amorim may not be ready yet. I really hope we look at the likes of Simone Inzaghi.

17 Apr 2024 09:52:28
Has done exceptionally well at Inter. Won the league and reached the CL final last time around. Good shout.

17 Apr 2024 10:18:29
Big Sam fits the bill then 😁.

17 Apr 2024 10:23:09
Done a great job at Lazio and Inter to be fair. Would not be against appointing him at all. Funnily enough, also loves a back 3.

17 Apr 2024 12:25:17
Arne Slot.

17 Apr 2024 13:18:27
Inzaghi has done a fantastic job at both Lazio and Inter - both clubs are doing a lot better than before he arrived. Inter have strolled to the league title and won a bunch of domestic cups under him. The last ingredient I want to see from Inzaghi, which would take him into world class manager territory, is winning crunch knockout CL ties against strong teams.
I know Inter got to the final last season (and performed well against a much better set of players), but their route to the final was quite kind.
So far, however, Inzaghi is proving to be very good.

17 Apr 2024 13:33:31
Ed002 has said Slot isn’t an option. Inzhagi doesn’t speak a word of English and doubt he’s interested in moving to a country where he doesn’t speak the language.

17 Apr 2024 13:55:45
Amorim for me. The guy has punched above his weight and won (and about to win) titles and Cups while his club keeps selling their best players. Imaging what he can do with more funds to spend (LFC are no longer a selling club) on this good squad in addition with his great ability to work with young players. Nah, Amorim all the way for me.

17 Apr 2024 16:25:26
To be fair Simone Inzaghi has done exceptionally well, but does not speak English and is apparently very settled in Italy. It’s Amorim all day long for me, and if reports of Amorim being Edwards first choice are true, then I trust him and Hughes to get the deal done to bring him here. The pool of managers after him that are suitable but importantly available are a drop down.

17 Apr 2024 16:51:24
Gonna have to correct whomever said inzaghi doesn't speak English. It's not fluent and he prefers not to speak it but he does speak English. I know because I was the person he spoke to at a professional event two years ago in Switzerland.

17 Apr 2024 17:12:34
@Nevada. I know you watch the Italian league quite extensively, so I respect you knowledge on all things that side. Was researching if he speaks English and all results came back as he doesn’t, but that’s obviously wrong. It’s good to know he has a good grasp of English.

On a completely separate note, what are your thoughts on the young Argentinian talent called Matias Soule, who is currently applying his trade over in Italy? Highly rated by a number of English and European sides and could fit in Amorim’s 343 formation as a right inside forward. YouTube clips are deceiving and is not the best tool to judge a player, although he does looks a talent.

Would be good to get an opinion from someone who watches Italian league football.

17 Apr 2024 20:01:35
@alonsk1786

I wouldn't say his grasp. of English is good, it's basic. We didn't speak long it was basically just very short chit chat (my Italian is about as good as his English)

Soule has a lot of talent but he's very rough. Personally I wouldn't say he's ready to come to premier league yet. If I were him (or his agent) I'd say stay where his is for a couple of years. Italy is a much better league to recruit attacking players in my opinion because the pressing and marking is very similar to UK. France and Germany is very spacious so it takes a lot of players from those leagues a while to adapt.

He is very gifted with the ball at his feet but he's quite reactionary, I judge players based on how well they read the game since all the talent in the world is nullified by not being able to understand where space and danger will develop.

Hope that helps.

17 Apr 2024 23:28:51
@Nevada. Much appreciated on the information regarding Simone Inzaghi and Matias Soule. Probably best that Soule keeps on developing in Italy if that’s the case.

Richard Hughes is meant to be connected in Italy, so hopefully he dips into the talent pool over there. Interesting summer ahead for sure.

17 Apr 2024 23:48:24
Emery for me.

17 Apr 2024
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, This is definitely Allison’s house up for sale. Let’s hope he’s just moving to a bigger house up the road and not on his way out.

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17 Apr 2024 09:34:57
This small house? its time to leave the planet.

17 Apr 2024 10:25:37
He lives in birkdalae doesn't he? Seen him joggimg around d.

17 Apr 2024 08:03:44
Who is the zombie looking character in the foreground on pic 1?

17 Apr 2024 11:25:30
Full story is and has been well documented is that he is moving to another house in Liverpool.

17 Apr 2024 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Tumbleweed! has posted a new article entitled, Player Assessment At Manchester United

17 Apr 2024 13:01:37
I don’t personally see how you are going to make a profit on maguire, wan bassaka and Ericsson, not a cat in hells chance. Also who do you think in their right mind is going to put in a decent offer for Luke always injured shaw? Cassamiro, Ericsson, shaw, varanne and linderloff should all be allowed to leave, and perhaps a few more. Your only players worth anything are the new kids and rashford and Bruno. Rasmus is just as Anthony a poor expensive purchase.
Until some manager comes in and rips up your team and starts again you’ll be in the same position year in year out.

17 Apr 2024 13:56:41
Make a profit on Macguire? How's that going to happen when he is the most expensive CB on the planet?

17 Apr 2024 16:39:03
OliRed, the £80m he was bought for in 2019 is spread across his contract. After 5 years his book value is around 15m, so if he’s sold for anything more than that it would be recorded as a profit.

18 Apr 2024 04:09:51
To be fair Oli, Harry has provided a lot of people with a lot of great entertainment for a n7mber of years now = that’s got to be worth something?

16 Apr 2024 12:46:32
It’s quite clear for a while now that Salah has fallen off a cliff with performances. I don’t think he will be with us next season. Looks ready to wind down now and get a nice payday in an easy league. Obviously will be a struggle to replace though.

16 Apr 2024 13:05:11
I think before his hamstring injury at AFCON he was playing some of his best football since his first season with us. However since he's come back he looks really jaded. Probably a combination of aging legs, the injury lay off and returning whilst he was fasting.

Whatever the case, I think it's the right time to sell. I'm getting the same vibes that Mane was giving off in his last season. Numbers are still there but the performance is slowly declining and the pace/ power looks to be dissipating.

16 Apr 2024 13:42:54
A fantastic player but I agree, the time has come for him to leave us. I think we've all come to terms with this. A Liverpool legend in my eyes but he's not been right for a while now. I kept thinking he'd improve and somehow save us but he hasn't and more than likely won't so it's time to get what we can. It'll be best for us and for him to move on.

Next couple of years are going to be interesting but it'll be no walk in the park, huge changes are coming. We are losing our manager, top goalscorer, probably Diaz and god knows who else. We will need to be patient even though we won't be lol. After recent results I'm welcoming it though, bring it all on. Time to move forward, we have youngsters ready to shine, use them! I hope the new manager sees what quality he's got in them.

16 Apr 2024 15:53:14
MK Scouser, I thought so as well. Let's be real here and not try to act all surprised. Salah is near 32 years old. You have to be living under a record to believe he would not lose a step or even two. That said, he had been playing some of his best footie at the start of the season as he was top 2 in goalscoring in the PL in the first 3 months or so.

It seems that hamstring injury and the setback he had after he came back vs Brentford (where he had a great game) has stifled him a lot. Was he rushed too soon? I don't know BUT he does not look fit at all.

The guy is a legend and an absolute role model for young players in terms of his mentality, desire and footballing lifestyle. The absolute poster boy of how to make a great career out of one where nobody thought you would not get anywhere near one. However, it may be time to let him go. It is what it is.

16 Apr 2024 16:34:54
If I was living under any record it would be Another brick in the wall by Pink Floyd.
Salah getting badlyoutpaced when put through on Sunday was shocking to me even though its clear he had lost half a yard before this season started since the return from injury he's lost about half a dozen yards. He also doesn't seem to want to press or track back atm which is making our best player a bit of a liability currently. Need Mo back and firing for the last games. If he does leave it will be a sad day but what a player he has been for us.

16 Apr 2024 16:52:26
As soon as KnickerBollox writes one of our players off you know he'll come good.
Salah might be completely out of touch right now due to various things, but writing him off as finished is just pure knee jerk, Knickerbollox style.

16 Apr 2024 17:44:34
The scout 007 has spoken, he's finished.

16 Apr 2024 17:56:17
Maybe if you got off your high horse Flash, you’d be able to see what the rest of us are seeing, which is a player in decline. Can’t be easy watching it all the way up there.

Mo has been and is an absolute legend, the standards he has set are absolutely world class and he’s easily one of the greatest we’ve ever seen at the club.

Regrettably though time waits for no one and once the pace has gone it’s gone for good. Better to sell now and get as much as we can than to wait a year and hope that things change, because they won’t, we’d also then be left to replace without funds to adequately do it. Difficult decisions have to be made.

Salah will be difficult and expensive to replace because at his peak he was unplayable, pace, skill, goals and assists. Players like that don’t come a dime a dozen and we’ll need to sign someone around the 24 year old age bracket who is as consistent as he was in Italy when we signed him (29 goals in 65 Serie A appearances over 2 and a half seasons for Fiorentina and Roma was exceptionally good), who also has the ability to get to the next level of their development and become a world class player.

16 Apr 2024 18:10:44
VV, Time will defeat us all. It's undefeated for a reason, man.

16 Apr 2024 19:53:56
Still think Salah can have a big say in how our season ends but for sure it's time to take the money this summer.

16 Apr 2024 22:06:15
Salah will now score 4 against Atalanta now you’ve all said he’s needs to go.

16 Apr 2024 22:29:20
Kloppers you must be living under a record!

Love that saying, I’m having it 👍.

17 Apr 2024 00:39:27
£65-70m and sell easy.

17 Apr 2024 06:42:41
You can’t go from playing the best football of your career at Liverpool some months ago to being on the scrap heap in the same season 😂. Come on!

My record would be anything by Van the man Morrison 😜.

17 Apr 2024 06:50:47
3-4 bad games ( by his standards) including 2 goals and an assist and he need selling…wow…. he’s come back from a fairly significant injury and is fasting and now he’s a busted flush. C’mon guys, he’ll be back amongst the goals this week and we’ll be raving about him. I think he’ll go this summer, purely as a financial decision from the club, considering his contract length and age, but I am far from happy about it and next year I guarantee you all will be too. The old adage you don’t know what you had till it’s gone, applies. He is mercurial genius, the beating heart of the last 5 years and he is, quite literally irreplaceable.

17 Apr 2024 07:04:03
I ain't blind Viktor, but I don't do knee jerk either. I don't need to lash out at players because we lost.
We don't see him in training every day, and we don't have any background on whether he's nursing injuries along.
Now I don't claim to be a judge of a player, but I don't see a player who was purring a few months ago suddenly needing to be got rid of because of a few ropey performances.
And I like my high horse just fine thanks!

17 Apr 2024 09:18:49
I think the increasing number of people who think now is the right time to let Salah go is at least in part a reaction to recent form and performances. No doubt he has been poor, almost anonymous, and in my opinion he shouldn't start the next match (es) . It's probably also fair to see he is no longer the player he was in the years that most people would consider his peak; when he scored goals out of nothing - be it mazy dribbles into the box or hose bending shots into the far corner. He doesn't really do either any more.

That said, he has had brief dips in form throughout his Liverpool career and always emerged and he is still, by some way, our top scorer this season even though he missed a large chunk with AFCON and injuries. I think he has developed and evolved his game to still deliver the G/ A in a different way. 23 goals + 13 assists in all comps probably puts him up there with the best in the league. Would most clubs get rid of their top scorer (granted there are a number of penalties in those stats) .

Perhaps the combination of new manager/ new approach, Salah no longer being at his absolute peak and the fact that silly money might be on the table if a move to Saudi is still possible, will mean that, on balance, the time is right for a move.

17 Apr 2024 09:28:09
So replace Salah with a young, prime Salah, Vik?
If it was that easy we'd have done the same with Mane and Firminho, too.

16 Apr 2024 09:40:33
We need serious investment this summer in replacing salah. If the right player is available spend the money.

17 Apr 2024 13:57:51
Adeyemi from BVB's worth a shout.

17 Apr 2024 22:24:19
This is said every single season without fail about Salah when he doesn’t score for a game or two and it’s proven wrong every single time.

16 Apr 2024 12:45:07
Klopp's biggest problem has been Guardiola and the players he has at City. But I reckon Guardiola would say his biggest problem whilst at City has been Klopp and his Liverpool team.

16 Apr 2024 13:45:22
So true.

16 Apr 2024 15:57:13
Absolutely, Rigsby. Klopp has beaten Pep to win trophies or has won trophies before he did. Also, Klopp has the best head to head vs Pep out of any manager Pep has faced. He made the City/ Liverpool games evenly matched despite all the disadvantages he had. Klopp gets all the credit for that as well as the players.

Klopp and LFC have given Pep and City fits thru out their time in the PL and yeah, Pep won more BUT that is expected cos he is well, given more. But Klopp's trophy record at LFC is what a lot of these rival fans would kill for so in the end, Klopp is his kryptonite. Just my take.

16 Apr 2024 16:31:55
I wonder for how much longer Guardiola will stay at City.

{Ed002's Note - Not too much longer.}

16 Apr 2024 16:34:41
Just think, had we not won it in 2020, City would be going for seven in a row! Klopp deserves huge credit for that. And had it not been for Guardiola and the money at City we could be going for our fourth title under Klopp. We might have had two more CL trophies were it not for Real Madrid, too.
I just can't help but look at what Klopp has achieved for us and what we are up against rather than what he didn't achieve.
One of the reasons we are all so disappointed is because of the expectations we now have under Klopp.

16 Apr 2024 17:11:12
That sounds like something is afoot for this summer. 😉.

16 Apr 2024 18:12:00
Speaking way too much sense, Rigsby. Stop it!

17 Apr 2024 09:27:46
What advantages does city have may I know? About to win a treble with Rodri, Kovacic and Mateus Nunes lol. They have a flop GK, A flop Grealish, An injury prone KDB, an overrated Foden and An overrated walker (accordint to this page) .
Pep would win atleast 3 PL titles with a prime Fabinho, Salah, Mane, Bobby, VVD, Alli, Robbo and Trent.
More importantly Guardiola wouldn't let his assistant to run a football club. he ofeten gets criticized for over complicating while royally ignoring how Klopp is obsessed with playing the iverted nonsense.

18 Apr 2024 00:34:14
Beekeeper you are missing the point.

Guardiola would never have had Salah, Mane, Bobby, Firmino, Robbo or Trent. They were all bought on a budget or from the academy and turned into great players. He would’ve signed proven world class players for much more money because he had it to spend.

He might have signed Ali and VVD but he wouldn’t have had to sell one of his best players in order to do it.

It’s absolutely undeniable that any City manager has had a huge financial, competitive advantage since the sheik took over. Before Pep, City won the league with Mancini and Pellegrini. Before Klopp Liverpool had one decent season in 2013-2014 where we came close but other than that we were generally 4th to 8th place in the league.

Klopp took us from relative obscurity with the odd decent cup run, hoping to get into the top 4 every season to the best team in Europe.

Pep took an already brilliant City team, spent loads of money on it and won more stuff.

There’s no comparison between the two.

18 Apr 2024 09:12:46
You don't know about City's funds then, Beekeeper?
How did they end up with Rodri, Kovacic, Nunes, Ederson, Grealish and Walker? I notice that you conveniently left out Bernardo Silva and Harland. Two of their most influential players this season.
If you think Guardiola would win at least three PL titles at Liverpool then I could agree with you because that would mean he wouldn't be City boss and that was one of my points.
The other point being the money that he has had to spend which you also proved by naming just some of his big money signings.
I stand by my assumption that Liverpool could easily have won two more PL titles had City not had Guardiola and had he not had the money he has spent.

16 Apr 2024 12:39:26
I don't know about anyone else, but I have a funny feeling that the Europa tie with Atalanta isn't over.

There's just something in the back of my mind that keeps telling me we can still get through, far fetched as that might seem.

I guess it's because there has to be some semblance of hope, otherwise no point in turning up.

We could be like a firework that didn't go off, and when you approach it, it explodes. Here's hoping we explode and don't implode.

16 Apr 2024 13:32:31
Keep it up KBL we need some unapologetically positive people right now.

16 Apr 2024 13:39:10
Anything can happen, but if we play the way we have been playing since the United defeat in the FA cup, we will lose another 3-0.

16 Apr 2024 13:46:50
Have the same feeling if we get back to our free flowing football. They won’t cope with us if we get anywhere close to our best.

16 Apr 2024 15:44:40
I have that weird sense that we don’t pick all our “first team” players and instead with let a few kids play.

Then they show us how it’s done.
Is Danns out injured or something. I’d like to see him given a go.

The way we’re playing - it’s completely finished. But with some brave big changes you never know.

16 Apr 2024 15:58:06
KBL we score in the first 15mins, anything can happen. We shall see.

16 Apr 2024 16:04:32
I agree with u Ron as regards danns I'm v surprised he hasn't got a run latel. I know he suffered concussion after forest game so he would've been ruled out for a while after that. but I would've thought in games of late he would've been worth a shot, in bits I've seen of him he looks what we need, cool and composed in front of goal.

16 Apr 2024 16:23:40
Start with:

Nunez on the left
Jota and Salah up top
Diaz on the right
442

Fully throttle in their face.

They have the ability to roll Atlanta over but they have to do something different and go at them.

16 Apr 2024 17:39:51
Ignoring the fact we start slowly, concede sloppy goals regularly, can’t put chances away and seem to be unable to keep a clean sheet to even the most feeble opponents, yeah, we’ve every chance.

16 Apr 2024 21:06:14
I desperately want us to win. Just see us losing 2 or 3 nil. I believe if we had played them earlier in the season we would be beating them relatively easy.
This game has unfortunately came too late for us in our season.

16 Apr 2024 22:51:03
Unfortunately it's wrong timing for us, I think they'll look to get an early goal to finish us off and give us all they've got, they know we're in a bad patch and they'll use it to their advantage. If we get through I'll be absolutely gobsmacked.

I'd love to be wrong of course, I'm hoping for one of them incredible Liverpool European nights to get us all positive again, we can dream :) .

16 Apr 2024 23:33:57
It's not worth getting out of bed in the morning is it, Vik?
When it's to get out of your pit, think Istanbul, Dortmund and Barcelona not Palace at home or United away, mate.

18 Apr 2024 00:39:49
I remember getting up on the day of the Barcelona game and having a discussion with my wife about whether I was going to go to Anfield or not that day. It’s an 8 hour round trip for me and we were 3-0 down after the first leg against arguably the best team in Europe at the time.

‘We’ve got no chance of winning, I’m too busy at work, it’s a waste of time’ I was saying to her. She just said ‘yeah but what if they do it and you didn’t go? ’

I went and had probably the best football experience of my life and there have been hundreds.

One thing I have learned throughout my life as a Liverpool fan is that if any team can do the seemingly impossible, we can.

This tie isn’t over by any stretch of the imagination.

16 Apr 2024 12:11:21
Hi Ed001. Thanks for the review and I must say I agree with your assessment on that match. As soon as Trent came on and went in the middle (inverted) I was worried that would not work. I am amazed we have reverted to the slow way of playing - that didn't really work earlier in the season anyway! It does look like we need a "refresh" which is obviously coming anyway. I think this season really will end with a whimper if we continue to play like this. I would much rather go for it and if that means the odd loss then so be it . this ponderous play is awful and doesn't suit us at all. I actually think if we play "rock and roll" footy then we have a cjance on Thursday (providing the finishing improves) as we definitely have the ability to create chances against them. The last few weeks feels almost like self sabotage!

{Ed001's Note - it is still going to be sad to say goodbye to Klopp.}

16 Apr 2024 13:27:11
Let's be clear, Herr Klopp knows more about football than any of us. His acumen has brought us success and much joy.

Re. the game. I thought the second half performance was good. Ponderous, really?

Perhaps the tactics would been more effective if returning players were not dusting off the rust and had more rhythm. Szob needs to play. Play himself into form!

Please Trent ease yourself into the game before spraying the Hollywood balls.

16 Apr 2024 13:48:46
Playing Trent as an inverted fullback when we dominate teams really stifles us. Get him wide and get players in the box for his early delivery.

16 Apr 2024 16:06:12
Ed01 regardless what the ups and downs and all that, I will be forever grateful to this man who could have gone to any other club in a much better position to win trophies BUT came to us at our absolute worst. He built us up from the ground up and despite all the head winds and initial trophy losses, he stayed the course and taught me how to stay the course as well despite all the obstacles and disappointments.

From there, he built my club from the depths of midtable mediocrity, into the best team in the world and "Champions Of Everywhere". Won a bag of trophies that few expected him to win when he was struggling at first. Klopp gave me some of the absolute best memories as an LFC fan that I will take with me to my grave. Not arsed about what other people who are NOT LFC fans think about him.

Don't care what he did not win cos in the end, Klopp gave my club back its dignity and now, I hold my head high knowing that it was all worth it sticking by him, come hell or high water. All Hail Herr Klopp!