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14 Nov 2018 06:17:58
We have decided to change the Teams page to be the Liverpool Match Posts page, so look for posts talking about the latest Liverpool match there.

But most of the posts still go to the Liverpool Banter page.

14 Nov 2018 06:17:58
Also more posts are being added to the Liverpool Other Posts and the More Liverpool Posts pages.

13 Nov 2018 14:39:13
Just heard from my friend who is in the army based in paderborn near dortmund that liverpool have had scouts looking at thorgan hazard and will be making a move for him in the summer. No incomings in january as far as im aware.

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13 Nov 2018 16:39:08
Hazard plays for Borussia Mönchengladbach? Which isn't to say your information is bad. But that's like me saying, just heard from a friend that lives in Middlesborough that Liverpool had scouts looking at Rashford and will be making a move in the summer.

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13 Nov 2018 17:35:27
It would make sense. We seem to do well out of Chelsea flops.

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13 Nov 2018 23:52:46
I have just heard we after dembele, obviously I wouldn't believe til he has the shirt on and signs contract .

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12 Nov 2018 19:14:41
Liverpool could be interested in signing Bournemouth's David Brooks in the Summer? Just some info I got given today.

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12 Nov 2018 23:35:52
This would make no sense to me but thanks for the info mate.

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13 Nov 2018 16:14:31
It would make sense to me in the fact that Brooks is young, versatile and technically very able. A replacement this Summer for Lallana/ Milner. He's having a good season so far with Bournemouth. That's part of what the lad who has some knowledge of our dealings told me. We've also been tracking him since his Sheffield United days but other priorities last Summer (GK and Midfield) so we passed up our interest, thus he went to Bournemouth.

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12 Nov 2018 18:55:28
Evening Eds,

Sturridge charged by FA for breaching betting rules. Any idea what's going on and what the most likely outcome could be? If I remember rightly isn't this what Barton got a huge ban for?

Keep up the good work!

Cheers.

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{Ed025's Note - the charge is about passing on information Rs..not betting, i expect him to appeal mate..

12 Nov 2018 20:17:33
I see, thanks for clearing that up and the quick reply!

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{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

13 Nov 2018 08:04:09
is it about his load move last season, and is this not similar to the John Terry thing for his last game where he let it know he would be going off in the 23 minute?

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13 Nov 2018 14:11:22
According to James Pearce in the Echo, it is connected to his loan move to West Brom in January. In my view, if bookies are stupid enough to offer odds on which team a player is going to sign for, whether permanently or on loan, they deserve to be ripped off by any punter with or without inside information.

Haven’t the FA got more important matters to investigate like the totally incompetent, possibly corrupt, bunch of PL referees? A slap on the wrist for Studge at worst.

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10 Nov 2018 15:36:47
Nice want to sign Simon Mignolet in January. Any truth to this? And if it happens, are there any ideas about what we'd do in regards to a no. 2?

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11 Nov 2018 16:26:47
Great question, who's even available as a number 2? Reina moved to Milan in the summer, but he might have been a shout.

Anyone know how Grabara is progressing?

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11 Nov 2018 17:03:30
It would be a Nice deal for Migs.

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11 Nov 2018 20:06:48
Surely Tom Heaton should be worth a shout. It depends if he's searching for first team football though. Surely you'd be more proud being backup for Alisson, than backup to Joe Hart, haha.

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12 Nov 2018 05:44:09
I like Heaton but I don't think he'd suit our style. A fantastic shotstopper a couple of seasons ago, but can he come in for when Alisson's out and play a high line and sweep up?

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12 Nov 2018 13:46:54
I don't agree with signing a new number 2 in January, nor handing the No. 2 slot to one of two 19 year olds (Kelleher and Grabara) . Best option is to stay with Mignolet until the summer, and find a serious No. 2. He may want out now, the coaching staff may want him out, and a lot of of the fans want him out also, but the potential downside is huge if Alisson is unable to play due to injury or illness.

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12 Nov 2018 17:06:38
Buffon! Butland! Navas!

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12 Nov 2018 23:42:23
Nice legs shame about the face.

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12 Nov 2018 23:43:28
Ra is correct, people don't take number 2's as serious as they should until we're in sh*t street then suddenly it matters. God forbid Alisson got injured then we have to pile all the pressure on one of the youngsters who clearly aren't ready? nah that's not good for them nor is it good for the club. I agree, keep Migs until summer and then look at getting somebody who is capable to come in when needed.

If Kelleher and Grabara make it with us which let's be honest, it's a big if then we're looking at a few years down the line imo (they have plenty of time to impress) . Alisson is here long term, what chance do they have really?

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13 Nov 2018 21:35:39
We have our man James Milner to put in a shift in goal if need be!

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10 Nov 2018 13:51:51
Any truth to the karius return and origi swap.

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10 Nov 2018 17:40:16
no, confirmed by Karius and his agent long ago.

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11 Nov 2018 16:27:31
Martolfc is right, though Origi might still well make the move to Besiktas as they're in the market for a striker.

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06 Nov 2018 10:01:25
I can tell you all that Liverpool are In talks with Barcelona about a loan move in January for Dembele.

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06 Nov 2018 11:51:40
ED002 confirmed only a few days ago that Liverpool have no interest in Ousmane Dembele.

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06 Nov 2018 12:47:31
Always appreciate a rumour so thanks for sharing however haven't we been here before FT?

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06 Nov 2018 18:03:46
You mean when I told you Alisson would sign? When everyone, every media outlet etc said he wouldn’t, yes I think we have.

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06 Nov 2018 18:45:18
Fairpoint teeth I recal that.

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06 Nov 2018 18:45:33
Macca said it 1st though 😆.

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06 Nov 2018 19:09:19
I asked this last week and was told no interest by Ed002. Were would he play? Instead of who Salah? Not happening.

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06 Nov 2018 22:10:56
Thanks Firmino after all this is a rumours site but your last couple of rumours have been true. Fair play teeth keep up the good work.

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06 Nov 2018 21:46:55
I’d expect Salah not to be here next season, I’d expect mane to be playing on the right next season with dembele on the left.

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06 Nov 2018 22:50:13
No affiliation with Firminosteeth.

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07 Nov 2018 00:25:43
I got to say FT you certainly aren’t afraid of criticism. I appreciate the rumors, hope they go through for your sake :p.

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07 Nov 2018 01:55:08
On form the guy most likely to drop out of our front 3 is actually Firmino. He just hasn't looked himself all season unfortunately.

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07 Nov 2018 08:05:34
If this does happen, and I really hope it does as Dembele is a great prospect and one that Klopp appears to want to work with, I presume it would be a loan with an option to buy? If so, I can see a "Dembele + £50m" type deal for Salah in the summer.

Much as I want to believe he wants to stay, I just get a niggly feeling he is going to move. I just hope he can smash it and get us the EPL this season as a parting gift (if he does go) .

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07 Nov 2018 09:26:08
Don't say one of the front 3 will leave, you will get lynched by delusional tunnel visioners. Dembele would be a perfect addition to add depth and make the season and loss of a starter easier to take.

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07 Nov 2018 12:52:05
Firminosteeth where would you image Salah will end up? Wouldn't be surprised if we need a departure to help the book keeping. I'd take Dembele for Salah. Getting him in Jan would be great if it was a loan to buy move. Seems klopp needs to give players time to settle in.

Just speculation at this point though. Least it gives us something else to think about other that lacklustre LFC performance last night haha.

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07 Nov 2018 14:56:23
Loan then option to buy is most likely yes.

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08 Nov 2018 09:38:04
Not specifically to this rumour but in general I would have thought that a Jan loan leading to a summer purchase would suit everyone, for starters you get a player for 5 months so he can settle into life in a new city and club, gets a full pre season in and then hit the ground running in the next season for his new club, if a team are willing to let a player go in Jan then it is win win for whoever picks them up in Jan if it can be on loan and the player may be happier when the new season starts.

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{Ed002's Note - Would Liverpool loan out Salah?}

08 Nov 2018 10:22:34
Can we have Coutinho as well please?

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09 Nov 2018 21:34:09
Everyone talking about Salah leaving, I can see Mane leaving before him.

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10 Nov 2018 15:15:51
Why would we sell if dembele came? 4 forward for 3 positions just means 1 gets rested each match. do the maths, each would get the 4th game as a rest. thus not wearing them out.

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02 Nov 2018 21:57:42
I understand that we have had Tom James at Yeovil watched and wondered if one of the Eds can confirm this and if you know whether he's any good?

Seems a strange one to me.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know off the top of my head, it is certainly possible, he is very highly rated and Cardiff never wanted to let him leave in the first place. He came close to joining West Brom at one point - if I remember correctly it was in the summer - and has had a number of Prem clubs watch him this season.}

04 Nov 2018 12:40:23
I've never seen him play but he does a hell of a lot for charity, it just goes to show what kind of lad he is when you consider he won't be on crazy wages.

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04 Nov 2018 14:30:07
Congrats on winning the bake off mate.

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02 Nov 2018 19:58:32
Shout out to ED002, you told us everything about the break away leagues and their alternative a long long time ago. First time I read about it here was in 2009! Amazing job sire, massive respect to you.

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02 Nov 2018 21:14:11
Incredible insight as always from Ed002. The league still doesn’t sit right with me personally but us mere fans have little say 😂.

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02 Nov 2018 21:28:58
Maybe I didn't read it thoroughly enough, but is that league to replace the champions league or is it a break away European league meaning Liverpool, Man U, Man City, Arsenal, and Chelsea would leave the Premier League?

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03 Nov 2018 00:12:38
Stone. Correct me if I'm wrong but, I think Ed 002 has stated that Liverpool won't initially be part of a break away league. It will mean that teams will be leaving the Premier league and other top leagues around Europe, meaning the football league will be reformed.

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03 Nov 2018 01:45:29
According to ED02 the top European teams would leave their leagues and join to create a pan-european league.
However I recall that ED02 kept stating that Liverpool were not involved or had not been invited to join such discussions.
So it is interesting to see the rags write LFC are involved.

ED02 also suggested that such a break away league would lead the the exisiting premier league set-up to possibly be disbanded as such a league would leave the league financially very much weaker.

BTW this is all from memory so I could be wrong on somw of it.

But this all gies to prove how insanly this ED02 chap is connected and knowledgable on football matters.
I for one have stopped reading newspapers for football news of any kind - there is no doubts to be had in ED02 info.

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03 Nov 2018 11:23:48
the latest reports have Liverpool, Man City, Man U, Arsenal, and Chelsea all involved.

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{Ed002's Note - That is incorrect.}

03 Nov 2018 13:33:06
Ok thank you ed. I know that if I want accurate information that I’ll get it here from you.

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03 Nov 2018 15:05:32
No Arsenal?

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{Ed002's Note - Arsenal has been involved in the discussions but has so far been one of the clubs not to commit to the breakaway, or explicitly say they won't be joining. Having now looked at what Der Spiegel has actually written it is clear that they have generally gotten matters right but have muddled what appears to be probably three or possibly four pieces of information, one of which is perhaps four years old. A lot has happened in that period and the "elite" sides continue to meet between one and three times a year to discuss matters, including this. I am pretty sure that I have sahred a lot of information, but certainly not all. You need to remember that this is not something new and there has been much publicitly given to the efforts of UEFA and others, to some extent now involving FIFA, to block it and somehow keep these clubs happy. There are counter-proposals to the pan-European breakaway that have partially been backed by UEFA to try and save their own skin. The first proposal is to rename and change the format of the UEFA Champions League to make it an elite closed-shop pan-European league with a fixed number of teams – and these would be the same teams every year and be based on past winners of the Champions League and European Cup and a few (not specified) more. It would then require the restructuring of the Europa League and the possible introduction of a lower-tier European competition again. Although they have yet to flesh out the detail and there is now a major concern that the impetus for this is not coming from Europe, although one major Football Association has given their support and discussions have also been held with the leading clubs from England (Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - which is where Der Spiegel have their list from). The American backer, Stephen Ross, of the Miami Dolphins has on several occasions requested a meeting with an extant group of sides considering the pan-European breakaway to discuss his proposals. They have still yet to respond but having identified the source of much of the funding (and that raising a concern) will wish to discuss it between themselves first. This has dragged on for a year or more and nothing has happened - and I doubt it will but FIFA and some Japanese fincing are now supporting his proposal.

UEFA are also considering a variant proposal that would see some places in the CL fixed (probably to previous winners) and then see it supplemented by Champions and second place sides each season. This complicates matters again as it means the re-introduction of a third competition or the significant restructuring of the EL. The plan put to clubs is a summer/preseason tournament that will evolve in to a parallel league, and of course eventually in to a complete breakaway for these clubs. As a first step to all of this, UEFA have negotiated minor changes that will see the four entrants from England, Germany, Spain and Italy enter the existing Champions League group stages without any qualification beyond their National League position (so no entry to qualifying rounds). This has been agreed by the European Club Association but UEFA did not want to discuss it with the separate group of “elite” sides discussing the Pan European League (and that “elite” group includes three English sides) as they are aware they will get no more than a shrug and no long-term support - and that is where we are now.

Another major counter proposal is a Chinese proposal from the Dalian Wanda Group proposes to open up the lucrative Chinese and Far Eastern media markets by extending the league to include Chinese and South American clubs. This has yet to be discussed by the "elite" sides as a group although the proposals have been presented to a number of them already on an individual basis. The proposals are very broad-based and lack detail - their selling point is significant additional income for the "elite", European "guest" sides, Asian sides and South American sides. The general feeling from informal discussions over cocktails is that the "elite" would not want it on a league basis but could be open to including other sides in a some sort of expanded World Club championship. FIFA see this as something they could control, hence their involvement in the matter. THis is also something that was added to the agenda of the Autumn 2018 council meeting but there was no vote - and little discussion I am told.}

03 Nov 2018 16:11:49
Outstanding Ed, thank you so much.

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03 Nov 2018 20:03:01
Wow ed002.
That blew me away. Thanks!

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04 Nov 2018 00:01:54
Will Brexit have any effect on this ed002?

Personally I don’t think I could support a club in a European league. It would be a bit of a sideshow for me, like the world club cup. I’d have to support a team in England.

It might be a positive thing for the game, get rid of the mercenary rich kids playing with our game and bring back some integrity to football.

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{Ed002's Note - No Ron, it is unrelated to Brexit and the European Union. I am not sure of the rationale behind switching your allegiance if Liverpool have shifted up to a pan European league but Everton would welcome your support no doubt. When Liverpool were part of the last evil breakaway did you also consider no longer supporting them? There is a natural progression and things are going to change, like it or not. I assume you would never go to a supermarket nor drive a car with 5 gears nor use a credit card?}

04 Nov 2018 01:09:18
No ed002 I’m not a Luddite. I just won’t be watching or fully engaging with a competition that doesn’t take place in the UK. The champions league is special because it is a rarity and you have to be successful in your domestic league to qualify. Plus most matches are midweek sandwiched between the premier league.

A pan European league will have no interest for me. Do I care if Real Madrid are better than Liverpool or PSG are better than Liverpool?

No, I care if Man Utd is better than Liverpool, I care about being the best in the Uk. How many Real Madrid fans will I be able to taunt down the pub? How many PSG fans will I meet at work?

The money men just don’t understand football and if they do leave the best and most successful league in the world - the premier league - then it will be to their detriment. Football in England will thrive with or without these so called “elite clubs”.

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{Ed002's Note - Ron, it really doesn't bother me if you decide to support another side instead of Liverpool.}

04 Nov 2018 04:53:29
Ed002 apologies if I misunderstood, but is this breakaway league designed to completely replace standard domestic league play? Or will teams still participate in their domestic league and just replace UCL/ cups. I understand if it’s the latter there would likely be adjustments made anyways but I was just curious.

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{Ed002's Note - If the clubs get what they want then they will leave their existing leagues. If I had to speculate, I would think (1) you might eventually see something like five or six EPL teams leave for two-tier pan European league - but it won't be based on the UEFA rankings; (2) the Premier League would be disbanded as an organisation; (3) the FA would restructure in to two 20 team divisions with lower leagues regionalised as they were many years ago; (4) FIFA would ban all players from the breakaway teams from International football - perhaps rescinding that position to stop FIFA breaking up as well - they don't want further issues but the troubles are not going to go away. I could also see many teams lose their professional status. I would think we are probably 10 years away from any significant move at this time.

I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. For me an eventual a breakaway pan-European league would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis. For me, clubs should already recognise this and put their efforts in to getting there finances in order to see if they can make it to a British professional league that will need to flourish without perhaps six sides that have eventually gone down the pan-European route - and have gone for good (it would be two or perhaps three initially). Clubs like Accrington Stanley will need to carry on as amateurs or face extinction (yet again). Recently Hartlepool has been struggling - again it needs to adapt. The mighty Third Lanark have started their long journey back to the top - it can be done.

The game has changed significantly and will continue to do so whether the Liverpool supporters like it or not. Football at the highest level is big business and attracts the sponsorship it does because the sponsors wish to tap in to the disposable income of the fans and ride the back of the advertising that flows naturally from the success some clubs achieve. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Anfield on a Saturday afternoon. I have explained that there will be changes, probably within the next 10 to 12 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, St James Park, Stamford Bridge or wherever. Fans of the sides who take the plunge will have the opportunity to visit cities such as Milan, Barcelona, Munich, etc. every couple of weeks to watch their team play. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match through the grim, wet and cobbled streets of the Northwest of England where there is smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street and only chips and fried curry to eat., perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so you can go and watch them?

If UEFA get what they want they will tighten their grip but the existing leagues would be intact and they would have expand competitions that would bring more income.

If FIFA get what they want they will leverage the popularity of the European sides to leverage the Asian markets.}

04 Nov 2018 12:42:15
Ah I love threads like this when Ed2 posts info about things we'd never have a clue about! . Thank you very much Ed2, have a great day mate.

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04 Nov 2018 13:04:24
Totally agree with you Ron.

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04 Nov 2018 14:31:45
Der Spiegel gives a fair breakdown of the events and communications rumours. English version

goo.gl/W2Gn1o

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04 Nov 2018 15:02:18
Ed002 you’re the smartest rodeo clown and gentleman adventurer around. Thanks as always. I can’t see myself liking this change but at the end of the day I love the game. I’m sure I’d eventually come around to watching it. I can’t help but wonder what the finances would be like. Would they continue with a FFP sort of system that permits spend what you earn? Or perhaps an NBA/ NFL type salary cap? I would think this breakaway league would run the risk of setting up huge financial disparities just like current leagues are facing. Surely a breakaway league would want every team to be competitive.

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05 Nov 2018 14:13:09
If this happens ticket prices and tv subscription will be climbing exponentially.

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08 Nov 2018 09:12:23
I fancy a pint of wallop.

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02 Nov 2018 18:19:38
Ed002, is there any potential impact to the recent allegations against PSG and Man City. I know not Liverpool related, don't beat me up to much.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what allegations have been made but if it relates back to the 12/13 era it would be perhaps a case of UEFA finding their new turbo-charged feet in terms of handing out penalties. I have seen several posts about the general theme, if it is no more than bitching about it really being much worse than it was, that may well be truce. They got abrupt punishment that perhaps could have been more serious, but someone will need to give me a pointer to the specifics for me to rationally comment.}}

02 Nov 2018 23:27:17
I read Psg should sell mbappe and neymar because the money used for them wasn’t financially fair?

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{Ed002's Note - I am afraid I am not sure what is meant by that.}

04 Nov 2018 11:19:13
I believe the allegations were that Infantino met with the Qatari’s and said if they buy PSG he will overlook FFP in their favour and ensure that they got to host the 2022 World Cup. There was something similar to do with Man City but I’m not sure of the full details of that.

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{Ed002's Note - That sounds like nonsense from Twitter. Regardless, that is all totally untrue.}

04 Nov 2018 14:32:32
Yeah I assumed as much. Thanks Ed002. It was football leaks that broke the story and I have no idea how reliable they are.

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{Ed002's Note - They have seemingly got some information that dates between 2014 and recently which is why it is muddled.

02 Nov 2018 18:01:45
Hi Ed 02,

Mate your something else, you told us about this European super League way before anyone else which is now being leaked by Football leaks . I bow to your knowledge and contacts in the game. Your an blessing to the site.

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{Ed002's Note - Well thnaks but I am not trying to "break news" but am hoping to try and bring you something which is realistic. Ironically, FIFA are getting more and more miffed about the whole matter that they are almost seeming to be disruptive.}


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