1.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 08:21:05
I actually think spurs will improve under Mourinho, feel he won’t be as glum as at United, prefers the underdog status. Poch had to go for me, lost his fire.

Did you see Bales banner ed?

{Ed001's Note - no mate, I don't watch internationals or take any notice of them. Oh wait, was it at the golf? More chance he would see it there as he actually watches that....}


2.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 08:30:19
Nice one ed, much appreciated. Hilarious that Mourinho has gone to spurs. I’m sure he’ll have a tremendous working relationship with levey. I’m just wary now Pochettino will take a few months (weeks) off before United come calling. Where else do you think he could end up?

{Ed001's Note - Levy is under huge pressure, he has to make this work. I really don't care where Poch goes, he is not very good and he will damage wherever he ends up in the long term.}


3.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 08:53:14
Oh I don’t know ed, I think he’s very underrated. I know you had issues with money he has spent but I think he did a great job at Spurs. I think the last season at spurs he was just sick of leveys and the player power crap to be honest.

{Ed001's Note - underrated? He won nothing despite spending as much as we did. He is too matey with the players and has not understood that he is their boss not their mate. It is fine caring about them, but caring is not letting them do what they want. Caring is wanting the best for them and that involves disciplining them and keeping them in line. The player power is down to him, no one else to blame at Spurs but him.

Also, he has been made too look good by the fact that all the other teams he has been competing with have been going through tough times. As soon as one gets its act together they finish above Spurs, that should be telling. He simply is ridiculous, massively and hugely overrated. The fact that he finished second in a one horse race should tell you how poor a manager he is. (For those not realising what I mean, I am talking about the season everyone else slumped and Leicester won as a result as he could not get his players to turn up when it mattered.) The fact that he is the one that wanted Davinson Sanchez, Victor Wanyama, Moussa Sissoko etc should tell you how poor he is. The fact that he didn't pull Harry Kane up on that ridiculous goal claim should tell you how lacking in the realm of management he is. And all this talk of how great he is at bringing through youth, show me one young player he has brought through successfully. There isn't one. Kane was already in the team before anyone mentions him and has been going backwards as a player for the last couple of seasons under Poch.}


4.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 10:02:25
Look at you tearing me apart with your facts. I think under leavy, he was severely constricted. Getting top 4 consistently is praiseworthy. He wasn’t perfect but I think he did a great job getting more from the players then many other managers would have, perhaps because of his (friendly) approach. I feel the reason they are where they are is because the players have had enough of the club itself and decided not to play for him this season. As for the players he signed, are we absolutely certain he wanted them? If he did, yep spot on, not much of a defense but money is something he’s never had enough experience with, perhaps that’s something he’ll improve upon. Perhaps he should is best when getting the best out of lesser players. Look, I once thought avb was a cracking manager. What the fuk do I know? 🤣🤣🤣.

{Ed001's Note - top 4 is not praiseworthy when there are only one or two teams competitive with you. They never overachieved, which is the only reason you should be praised.

I don't get this suggestion he got more from his players, he had two of the best centre-backs in world football and the captain of the world cup winning country in goal. Who was performing better than their level on a consistent basis? Alli? One good season been terrible ever since. I mean who has he got more out of?

He chose the players. He wants players with physicality over technical ability, that's why he buys crap.}


5.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 10:32:57
Fair enough ed, I should have specified that he never had money at Southampton and Espanyol. What I meant was, are we certain it wasn’t Levy who wanted those players and he settled. Wasn’t there a whole thing about him only being made head coach. Genuinely, I can’t remember when there hasn’t been a battle for top four places in the last five years and I’ve never rated spurs squad as a whole. I think it might be telling if Mourinho gets anything from the lads. I doubt it beyond the bounce. Truthfully, I think Kane has been disappointing all season but I have seen him only improve in the seasons before. Maybe I’m wrong. I doubt I’ll convince you otherwise on the matter. Regardless, I do think Pochettino will go on to do bigger things in football. I think he’s young, with good experienced and bless him, he seems like such a nice guy. He’ll never be an avb though. Can I change the subject and ask what you think Mourinho will do? Or how that relationship will work?

{Ed001's Note - he came out and whined this summer about the club not bringing in the players he wanted and said they should change his title. That was not about previous years.

I think Jose is a busted flush and will turn things around initially but not for long.}


6.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 10:42:47
Agree with ed001 about Poch.
Also think the Spurs job will be a bit of a Jose Mourinho Renaissance for some reason.


7.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 11:11:44
I forsee mourinho bitching and moaning about players he’s not allowed to get, before getting fired again, doing sky sports for a few weeks and ending up managing arsenal by years end. Ooh, maybe city might come in for him after pep has a meltdown.


8.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 11:37:26
I did think it would go downhill after the book was released.


9.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 12:20:56
Ed001, how long do you give this Mourinho Spurs experiment? I just don't see it working out. If he's there as long as he was at Man U I'd be surprised honestly.

{Ed001's Note - can Levy afford to admit to another mistake?? This could be an absolute disaster or be a renaissance for Jose. Hard to tell but personally I think this is only going to last a season or two.}


10.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 12:28:22
Ed I didn’t watch the game, but after he held up a wales flag that said ‘wales golf Madrid - in that order’ 😂 cringeworthy!

{Ed001's Note - oh that is just taking the Michael! He gets paid half a mill a week and he treats the club like a joke. I can't stand Madrid but when they pay you that well, they deserve to get respect.}


11.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 14:49:35
Can't think of a player that improved under his watch, what he did with Toby and Jan spelled disater in caps. His transfers have been dodgy, from buying Wanyama to selling Dembele. Kane seemed to be calling the shots along with a bunch of other players.


12.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 18:26:12
I can guarantee Poch will end up at a bigger club than Spurs.


13.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 19:32:31
LiverpoolFC8, and Poch will do the same thing he did at Spurs exactly as Ed01, described it. He will ride the players physically into the ground, bring in players with physical ability and NO footballing brain and when under a bit of pressure, he will blame the club for not doing what he wanted.

Ed01, I was watching a Spurs fan on youtube on this issue and your take is identical to his. He said that Levy fired Poch just to cover for all his mistakes. To the Spurs guy, Levy has put the WHOLE blame for Spurs not winning anything on Poch hence, covering his own tracks and to some extent I agree even tho, Poch is a disaster, coaching-ability wise.

Now, he has hire Jose for two years (which is all he is good for right now as a busted flush) and hope for the best BUT he had better get things right. As for Poch, I have said this on many a thread that he was compared to Klopp and have said that Poch is poor and supremely overrated. His whole schtick is to be physically stronger than the opponent and when that does not happen, he is clueless.

Also, Poch is a disaster in the transfer market and were he not managing the media darling that Spurs are, he would not have the "cache" he appears to have now. I mean, he was longer at Spurs than Klopp has been at LFC YET Klopp left him in the dust despite spending tonnes of money. Maybe Levy was right not to give him any more money after watching him spend dough on "Superstars" like Sanchez, Wanyama, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Wimmer, Janssen, Aurier, Llorente and the list of utter dross goes on.

{Ed001's Note - even if Poch is solely at fault, Levy picked him, so that makes it his fault.}


14.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 20:17:26
Spot on, Ed. Not only did Levy pick Poch, he enabled him and allowed his incompetence to fester whenever it suited Levy. Remember when the Spurs players like Kane and Alli were on a diving spree in the PL in 17/ 18? What did Poch say when he was asked about it? He said it was not a big deal and that it was only in the the media that was getting all bent out of shape about it. I mean, what owner allows his manager to say that in public esp. one who is as overrated and trophyless with no "cache" as Poch?

Also by doing that, Poch enabled the players to continue doing it till this day (well, till he got sacked) and this goes straight to your point that he was too buddy-buddy with his players, forgetting a simple rule in football: Players win games and manager lose them. After it's all said and done when things go belly up, it is the coach that gets the chop, NOT the players. Poch has learned that lesson to his own detriment. Yo me, Poch as always been a fraud, a phony and an imposter who is all sizzle BUT no steak. We will see where he eventually lands.


15.) 20 Nov 2019
20 Nov 2019 20:54:25
Not trying to lick Ed001's backside here, but he is right.

The season before Pochettino took over, Spurs were 6th, despite sacking Villas-Boas mid season and putting in Tim Sherwood, who's not exactly in Bob Paisley's bracket as a manager. 4 seasons leading up to Pochettino's appointment: 4th - 6th every time. So Poch didn't bring them up from mid table nothingness.

And if you take into account that Man U basically imploded after sacking Mr. Ferguson and have been in the top 4 only twice since 2013, Arsenal lost their top 4 status after 2016, Chelsea have dropped out twice, and we were up and down like a yo-yo until we got Klopp, I would say Spurs being in the top 4 is a natural consequence of what was going on around them, rather than any great progression under Pochettino.


16.) 21 Nov 2019
21 Nov 2019 15:48:02
Something Red. I'm pretty sure that Man Utd didn't sack Ferguson. He retired from the job.


17.) 21 Nov 2019
21 Nov 2019 17:04:10
SR, speaking truth to power, is not licking someone else's arse, IMO. Your point is actually another piece that I had not even considered. Now I don't know if Spurs coulda/ shoulda won the PL the year LC won it. That, I am not sure of. but what I am sure of, is that Poch has not pushed Spurs on mot cos Levy did not back him. It is cos he himself, has been living on the gravey train, getting away with his team regressing BUT since he never got held accountable for it by the media and the Spurs fans, he was on easy street. There is only so long you can get away with that till stuff hits the fan, IMO.


18.) 21 Nov 2019
21 Nov 2019 18:45:20
@ Epic. Yeah. Not sure how I managed to get that crossed up. The important thing is that he's gone and now Man U are genuinely entertaining for a Liverpool fan.

@ RedWolf. It's possible I'm being too harsh on him. I suppose it doesn't necessarily follow that Spurs would automatically get into the top 4 because of other teams struggles, but it's not quite the achievement some in the media (including Carragher, btw) are making it out to be.

Add in that apart from Son, Alderweireld, and at a stretch Alli (if you judge him on his form 3 years ago), he really didn't improve the squad that much and I really do not get the hype about him. It's not a co-incidence that the more he had to rely on his own signings instead of what he inherited, the worse Spurs' form got.


19.) 21 Nov 2019
21 Nov 2019 20:30:17
SR, Poch has always been overrated. I used to fume when those in the media would say that "Poch is one of the best managers in the world" or "Poch is a better manager than Klopp". I used to lose it. I mean like, Really? A guy who has not won as much as a corner kick in his career, trophy-wise? Like I said, were he not managing Spurs, he wold be irrelevant.

Ok so a manager who has won nothing is better than a manager who has won 5 trophies (at the time) and currently competing for trophies. That was the type of nonsense the media and SM "pundits used to subject us to. Poch had only one win in 15 vs Klopp (and it took a collective meltdown for that to happen) YET he is better than Klopp. Thank heavens, Klopp ended that discussion in Madrid.