19 Jun 2019 06:25:09
Reading about how much we overpaid for VVD.

I don't have the privvy to that exact figure but what ever the cost is, it's the best few shillings we've spent in a long time.

A sixth European Cup, one point off money bags City.

{Ed025's Note - thats a bit hypocritical drogie....talking of how liverpool overpaid for VVD then calling city "money bags"...kettles and pots come to mind mate..

1.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 07:13:26
They may be the case Ed25 but we don’t have the wealth that both the Manchester clubs have. Manchester United especially - since Murdoch got his greedy hands on the game and now the oil money at city.

For once we’re not having to have a selling to buy strategy unlike under previous ownerships.

{Ed025's Note - you have the wealth to compete with any side in the EPL drogie which is borne out by the signings of VVD, alisson and keita, yet you still call city for doing exactly the same thing...thats double standards mate..

2.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 07:39:28
Tag Ed, City’s spending tops ours by a long way mate and they never seem to sell big to recoup much. They are about to spend another 100M on 2 players and no doubt more before the window ends. It’s a case of invest or get left behind. I think Sigi and Richarlison we’re both nearly 50M each?

{Ed025's Note - its the market forces virgil, to get the best you have to pay the price and i dont have a problem with that mate, what i do have a problem with is liverpool supporters banging on about how citys spending is the reason for their success yet they are doing exactly the same thing..

3.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 07:40:47
There's a slight difference though, our owners aren't pumping in money to the club from nefarious sources and citing it as sponsorship so they can pretend they aren't breaking FFP.

{Ed025's Note - your guessing there john...unless you can prove it of course and its not just jealous speculation...and of course that you can categorically prove that FSG are whiter than white mate..

4.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 07:56:41
25 mate, we’ve had to m, it’s the nature of the beast and has been since 92/ 93.

How can you say we have the same financial muscle as City? The players you named are first team pleasers, City practically have two first teams players for every position!

{Ed025's Note - thats called good forward planning drogie, a contingency plan if you like...its not a conspiracy mate just good business..

5.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 08:32:44
Liverpool do not have the financial muscle to compete with City, that's just nonsense. You only need to look at the bench and players that don't get into the match day squad. Yes Liverpool have bought VVD, Keita and Allison but the have also purchased Mane, Salah, Robba, Matip, Ox, Gini, Gomezetc! With Trent coming thru the ranks. Very good reasonable buys. Plain daft to suggest otherwise.

6.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 09:55:22
People may want to Google 'standard chartered' and 'fines' before they start talking about where other clubs get their funding. I support LFC but I'm not blind about where the cash comes from.

7.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 10:28:26
The thing is, we did overpay. We could've signed him for a lot less but we had to pay the price of Klopp's tapping up. Sure, I think most people would say he's been worth every penny, but the references to overpaying isn't about the value of the player, but the fact that we paid more than we should have had to due to our own missteps.

8.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 10:27:15
Sorry lads, ed25 is right, the last couple of years you would be hard pushed to find another club in world football aside from the very top clubs in Europe spending as much as we have. Tbh I have no problems with it either, it's not my money so have at it.

I suspect it will slow down now the team has settled though.

9.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 10:58:26
City have had a larger net spend over the last two seasons than we have had but it's not as much as we all think it is. I may have missed a few out but the pattern is there to see.

Liverpool 2017-2019

Monies Out

VVD 76m, Ox 34, Mo 38, Andy Robbo 8, Alison 56,Keita 54, Fabhino 40, Shaqiri 13

Total spend £M319

Monies In

Coutinho 130, Sakho 25, Solanke 19, Danny Ward 12, Klavan 2

Total received £M188

Net Spend £M131.


CITY

Monies Out

Mahrez 61, Laporte 59, Mendy 52,Walker 48, B Silva 45, Ederson 36,Danilo 27, Luiz 11

Total Spend £M339

Monies In

Diaz 15, Gunn 10, Maffeo 8,Danayer 6, Hart 4, Celina 3, Iheancho 25, Nolito 6,Fernando 5, Kolerov 4, Nasri 3

Total Received £M122

Net Spend £M217


So only £M81 difference in the net spends - not allowing for loans and minor signings - which isn't a massive amount given the monenies floating around.

10.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 14:39:43
So then, it’s a coming, should we remove all players from all squads that have been there for 2 years or less just to prove that LFC are the top spenders? Even then we still aren’t. We also won’t continue to spend at the same rate. But City will.

And yet, our prize money will be similar (probably more), our TV money is similar (probably more), gate attendances similar, international fan base is larger (for merch and commercial interest) etc, but LFC are approaching the edge of its means while City have all that extra FFP busting cash from where?

Oh yes, oversized sponsorships from affiliated companies and an investment group which hides, i mean, integrates wages and other costs.

Hmmm.

11.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 08:32:56
Nonsense Ed025, absolute nonsense. You are clever enough, regardless of your decision to support Everton, to see a clear difference between what City are doing and what Liverpool are doing. If City had to sell KDB in order to sign Laporte (57m) and Ederson (40m), then you could have made an argument that we are comparable. Because that’s effectively what we had to do.
Guardiola is about to dump another 50m on a right back, which should bring the total to about 180m (JUST ON FULL BACKS) in two years. Liverpool, by somewhat of a contrast, have parted with 8m in the same amount of time.
Do NOT conflate the respective strategies of Liverpool and City, the spending is incomparable.

{Ed025's Note - i would not expect you to say anything different lowel, if ever there were a bunch of supporters who felt sorry for themselves its the red half of merseyside mate, if its not refs giving you nothing or other teams getting an advantage then its something else...you are renowned for it..

12.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 08:49:19
Mate, no one is saying it’s not bad business or a conspiracy, though breaking FFP rules, leading to a possible ban from the champions League, is not great business.

Every club has a contingency plan mate, with most clubs trying to forward plan to the best of their ability. The one difference is that Man City have the financial muscle to execute their strategy by practically having two first team players in every position. Apart from Manchester United, there is no other team that are able to structure their business in this way

You know me 25, I’m not a green eyed monster, just pointing out the facts mate.

if you read back over my posts, I’ve always said I love watching the best players coming to Anfield and consider myself lucky that I get to see these fantastic players in our league - that includes City mate.

{Ed025's Note - i respect you as one of the better posters drogie so was surprised by your "money bags" shout mate, its not just about the money im afraid, if we had the means im sure we would all want our respective clubs to buy the best its the same in all walks of life, and as far as i know city have broken no rules so good luck to them i say and thanks for the entertainment..

13.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 10:05:10
Gotta disagree on the good business Ed. It’s good flaunting of the rules to be able to afford them “legitimately”. No conspiracy against anyone, just them getting away with it. We all get regularly told about those extra few percent which can make the difference at the end of the day. If they can outspend everyone illegitimately by just that few percent then they will always have the edge.

{Ed025's Note - have they broken any rules RITWW?...not as far as i am aware mate, you seem to be a hang em before the trial sort of guy my friend..

14.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 11:16:58
Ed25, How can you even suggest we are spending the same as city.
Since Guardiola has come in city have spent around 600m on transfer fees recouping around 180m from player sales so a net spend of 427m over 3 season.

In that time LFC have spent around 390m on transfer fees and recouping around 285m from player sales so a net spend of 104m over 3 seasons. Even our owner has said without the sale of Coutinho we wouldn't have been able to do the business we have.

I couldn't care less how City do or don't break the rules but to suggest we are able to compete with them on a financial level is wrong. Since Guardiola has come in they bought almost 2 starting 11's that could compete in the premier league, its incredible that we manage to keep pace with that team whilst winning a CL.

{Ed025's Note - you are quoting ammounts of money that mean FA in football alex, would you swap your £8m robbo for citys £50m stones?...of course not so the money is a moot point, jealousy is a terrible trait to have, years ago it was utd and now its city and its all a little bit sad to be honest mate..

15.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 18:58:45
Ed25, anyone saying that we can compete with City financially is frankly either taking the mick or is just trolling LFC fans to whind them up. This is not about any type of grievance or anything like that cos that piece of banter is becoming old and tired. This is about facts and figures so let's discuss on these instead pointless distractions in the name of banter. Also Ed25, you are aware that City wanted VVD as well but he turned them down or did that conveniently slip your mind as many other things seem to do these days?

City since Pep got there, has spent over 700m on a team that already had the best squad in the PL under Pellegrini. The guy spent over 300m on defenders and GK's alone (including the dreadful ex bluenose John Stones) . LFC on the other hand, has a starting back 4 that cost just 86m (of which 75m is for VVD alone.

Regarding GKs: City spent 35m on Claudio Bravo in 16/ 17 season. He was a dud. What did Pep do? He went out and spent another 35m on Ederson the very next season. Whereas Klopp signed Allisson for 62m after persevering with Migs and Karius for 3 seasons. Oh, and did I also mention that City's owners (the Mansour family) reportedly sit on a ONE TRILLION pound fortune? Whereas FSG don't come anywhere close to that as a consortium group.

Oh, did I also mention that City barely sell players hence make very little money compared to what they earn whereas LFC HAS to earn the money it spends due to FFP regulations? Even Neverton have spent a boatload (nearing 250m) in the past two summers already so don't kknow what the prob. is. Ed25, I know you like to banter and that's cool BUT right here, you are completely wrong. City are run by the ruling family of the UAE (a country's govt, really) while LFC are run by sensible owners who have to spend within their means. If you think both situations are the same then I'm sorry, you need to follow another sport cos football is clearly not your thing.

{Ed025's Note - you know instead of bleating on all the time about the money city are spending talk about the 3 massive signings liverpool made last season which makes them dearer than any of citys like for like players...its not all about money, its about the team, the manager and the club mate, would you swap a £8m robbo for any of citys defenders?...my suggestion to you would be to congratulate city on a well deserved win and say we go again next year...thats a proper fan..

16.) 19 Jun 2019
19 Jun 2019 21:20:00
Ed25, please give it with the "a proper fan" stuff. NOBODY has anything to teach me about being a proper LFC fan, okay? Also as usual you did not address any of the facts or figures I posted so I take it that you agreed with them so I'll accept that. I joined in a conversation and disagreed on your assessment that us and City are on the same financial power level. That is all. Nowhere in my post did I even mention City and their success so you clearly made that up on your own. You seem SO hung up on things I actually did not mention while conveniently not focusing your response on the things I DID mention. I wonder why?

We made three massive signings. So freaking what? We are now at the same level as City now financially? One is a club that leaves within it's means and the other is being run by a State? You see, your argument is becoming wierder and more desperate by the moment as it makes NO sense whatsoever neither does it possess any type of logic or context.

Now, You may not know any of this BUT I could not be arsed one bit how much City spend or how many trophies they win. Utd won more trophies than City couldn't even count and I was not arsed about that so who the heck is City for me to be arsed about? I already saluted City for winning the PL fair and square and we as fans, players and coaches have congratulated them. Now if you were actually paying attention, you would know that it is City who simply can't leave us alone cos they are still talking about us. We will go at it again next season and see what happens. N btw, WE GOT SIX!

{Ed025's Note - it is in fact YOU! who keeps bringing up the money issue redwolf, i dont see it as a big deal myself as when the guys get on the pitch its 11 v11 and how much a player cost means squat, its about passion, commitment and the team ethic for me mate....so you need to stop banging the "richest team in history" drum and going on and on and on and on about how much city have spent, its not just you though its an unhealthy obsession with a lot of your supporters im afraid,...now i know you got 6 my friend....i seen the graffiti on the walls of prince ruperts tower which says volumes to me about or neighbours..