13 Jan 2019 18:02:43
I just wanted to clarify a few things, I think if Ed receives abuse then its ridiculous.

The only thing I asked is why does ED believe we can't sign a 50 million pound player, I presumed it was because he has heard something, so was very interested to hear, it would be nice if he gets chance to answer when he is free .

My worry was that if and when players leave in the summer
Sturridge free
Moreno free
Solanke 19 million
Ings 20 million
Origi will go for maybe 20 million
Lallana will go for maybe 10 million .

We will need to sign some players of real quality to replace them and strengthen the squad, maybe top young talent from around the world or ideally promote some from the 23s .

We will have to add a striker of quality who can play across the front 3 positions, I personally think it will be Werner and maybe a top fullback and if I am being greedy a number 10.

Again my worry from reading Eds posts is he infers we will need to sell a Salah etc to do this .

So again can somebody answer if this is this the case?

I have been told that the owners will support Klopp and the players that he identifies, again I may be wrong that's why I would of liked Eds opinion.

Cheers

Macca.

{Ed002's Note - Repeating your posts every few minutes will no doubt cause even more problems for the editors. I suppose we can look forward to more grief.}


1.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 18:58:40
Ed002's Note - Repeating your posts every few minutes will no doubt cause even more problems for the editors. I suppose we can look forward to more grief. }



I am just asking for your opinion if possible?

Cheers

Macca.


2.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:22:39
Macca has just asked a valid question I don't see the problem. Do the other Eds get as much grief as you Eds2 ?

{Ed002's Note - More than once. Read the posts.}


3.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:30:35
Evening macca
Could I just divert a little bit and ask if you know about any info for signings or players leaving thanks in advance and hope your keeping well 👍🏻.


4.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:34:10
Why on earth would we sell Salah? Ed002 does not talk money as people posting tranfer fees do not know how club finances work. Especially not when it comez to transfer fees in and out of the books.

If Salah had to leave then only will we replace him and a player like Werner is not going to join unless he is guaranteed a 1st team spot. I am pretty sure ED002 has explained this before? With Salah, Mane and Firmino it is unliky Werner will join as he will not be guaranteed a 1st team spot.

When Sturridge leaves then the club will find a replacement for him. Most likely a signing to strengthen the bench. Not to replace one of our current front 3.

As it is Studge is struggling to get into the team so again, why would someone like Werner even consider a move to us when we already have Firmino, Salah, Mane and Shaqiri.

The only sensible thing for LFC would be to sign a replacement for Sturridge which will be willing to play 4th or 5th fiddle.


5.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:42:44
With the recent signings and renewed contracts I wouldn't be surprised if we're a little tapped out in the money department. Obviously out going players (e. g. Salah) would help alleviate that.

We've never really been big spenders, that's why it was such a big deal when vvd and Allison signed on. Plus we paid a lot more than the reported fee for Keita. Also bought Fab and Shaw.

Not only do we pay these crazy sums to sign a player were paying a lot in tax, agent fees etc, not to mention we have to budget their wages for the length of their contracts. I can see why its not feasible to pay big money for players.

If we do well every season in all comps we'll eventually be in a spot where it would become more feasible. Remember its only been this season and last were we've seen any true success, and we've spent a lot.

I know we got a lot for Coutinho but that's paid out over a few years, (payments every six months I believe)

We don't have oil money, we haven't been consistent enough in any competition to get great revenues. So yes, compared to other big spenders we still have some catching up to do. Which with recent results were moving in the right direction.

The eds have explained this a lot.


6.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:30:28
Was posted twice in error, apologies.

Cheers

Macca.


7.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:31:22
ED002 in fairness to Macca, he is only asking a genuine, sincere question regarding Liverpools financial situation.
It is something all the decent people on this site would like to know more about in relation to player transfers.
As neither you or Macca have done anything wrong in the first place, it is a shame that a minority of moronic posters have dragged this situation down to their level, while the rest of us would prefer to enjoy the posts of both you and Macca. I hope you hope both keep posting on the site.

{Ed002's Note - I answered and nobody bothers to read. I am not going to get in to detail - you won't like it.}


8.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:34:34
imo a very valid question and with no intent to cause harm or incite abuse for any ed.

{Ed002's Note - And could you be bothered to read the response? No.}


9.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:53:22
In my opinion maxlfc the reason Studge doesn't get more minutes is because he is not good enough and doesn't fit into our system .

Do you not think Klopp would rotate more if he had a Werner for example?

Cheers

Macca.


10.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:53:32
Macca, good to hear from you though and apologies for the rant. I doubt your post would have gone live if it was posted by someone else.

Just feel for Ed002 as he is abused for being helpful but some will still not take in what he explains just about everyday. Tommorrow someone else is going to ask about Werner again lol.


11.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:58:04
We need to start winning these major trophies. Prem, Champions League. then no player wants to leave and they all want to play for Liverpool. We're not far off achieving it.


12.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:54:53
Fingers crossed there's no divvies on tonight! have a good night Ed2, or try!


13.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:01:42
Maybe Salah wants to go?
What is certain is the club will need to make plans for the summer and they won’t be able to sell Salah against his will.
So the club will need to plan how they are going to develop the squad in the summer with Salah and without.

I think a lot will depend on success in the remaining 2 competitions. Win nothing and money will be tight. It doesn’t matter if the owners are willing to support the squad, FFP will naturally limit the extent to which they can do this.


14.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:02:46
I think we might be close to breaching FFP rules macca. The Coutinho money is in dribs and drabs and the actual figure we will get is a lot lower than we belive. Then look at the fact we have bought Allison and VVD recently, VVD was apparently in one lump sum up front as well. I’m not going to pretend I know how close we are to FFP breaches but it’s got to be close, probably can’t afford a £50m player at the moment.


15.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:10:13
No apologies needed maxlfc.

But for me we need more quality to compete with Mane / Salah/ Bobby .

Also thanks for answering Ed.

Speak soon all.

Lets go and win the league.

Good times ahead .

Cheers

Macca.


16.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:10:36
Macca, as explained, why would Werner join to play in a rotation system when he is currently a starter?

Sturridge is not playing because Firmino, Mane and Salah will start majority of the time.

Sturridge is backup. Simple as that. When he leaves we will sign another backup player as spending big money onother forward and having him on the bench for rotation is not sensible plus a big money move player will expect to start. Werner will be a big money move so unless one of Salah, Mane or Firmino leave then it is highly unlikely that we will see a big money move for a forward.

We wanted to sign Fekir which would have been a big money move but obviously things went sour with the deal and instead opted for Shaqiri.

Where are we going to fit a big money move forward now?


17.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:52:54
I’ll put my head in the block here but I have broad shoulders. The owners are long term investors and serial winners in sports teams (see Red Sox) .

They have been supportive of Klopp and if we happen to win this year they will reinvest wherever Klopp advises as that’s the smart business move. Please remember that buying a £50M player (plus wages etc) is relative peanuts if your team has increased value in by half a billion plus.

If we come second they are smart enough to know that the team are progressing on and off the field and their investment will only go big if they start winning and will reinvest where klopp suggests as the vast bulk of his buys have increased in value.

Put simply if the owners believe they are getting a return they will find the money. They aren’t billionaires for nothing.


18.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 19:51:56
Also in regards to the vvd tapping up. I believe we had to pay the FULL fee up front and not the standard payment plans. That alone would scupper any budget plans and cause the club to rethink their money situation.

75mil? Plus another 15 or so on agent fees, taxes etc that had to also be paid upfront. That's a lot of dough. No club can sustain that.


19.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:30:56
I appreciate your opinion maxlfc, I truly hope you are wrong and time will tell.

Sturridge is back up because he is not good enough in my opinion that's why he hasn't had more minutes, he doesn't trust them to come in and do a job.

A top player would get equal game time with Mane for me, and we can't afford any injuries, I believe it would be remise of us to not add a quality forward to compete on all fronts, surely the fact we didn't play the front 3 against Wolves in the cup shows we need more quality up front?

Do you think we should just have Salah, Mane, Bobby to compete in all competitions, if not what kind of back up striker would you go for?

As I said if we had quality then we would rotate our front 3 . Klopp does all over the pitch .

Top players want to play for us, now is the time to sign them if finances permit .

Cheers

Macca.


20.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:38:06
1jj, forget about the transfer fees. If you see the next £90m tranfer fee displayed on the world wide web then ignore it.

The club has a wage bill which makes up majority of the clubs expenditure each season.

There are just too many variables to consider when it comes to the club finances and living within its means.

You are right though, FSG have gone all in with LFC. LFC also owe FSG hundreds of millions in loans. They have been really good to Liverpool Football Club.

Again, I do not know why people are so fixated on transfer fees. Unless we can sit with the clubs financials then transfer fees will be relevant as we will be sitting with the facts. Not just posting thumb suck numbers paid for players and not even knowing how the payments of the players have been setup.

Let the money men deal with the finances.


21.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:40:07
Is this the real macca?

Been visiting this site before the club takeover and I've never seen macca post like this.

{Ed025's Note - yes it is lavers..


22.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:41:38
I agree in the summer Sturridge and origi will probably
Be going . If we have funds the one player I would like to see us buy to cover the front Three would be Son of Spurs .
He would not break the bank he looks to have a great attitude
And would add real quality in a position we need some better
Quality cover .


23.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:44:41
Maxlfc see what your saying mate but Werner is playing for RBL in the Europa league and not really playing for a team that can challenge in the league. Surely he would be tempted to play regularly at the highest level

If he joined (big if and unlikely) I reckon he would get plenty of games and Klopp would be able to rotate the forwards a lot more as they can all play anywhere across the frontline could even push Mane to another level having some competition. You never know we might even have an FA cup run for a change.


24.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:55:52
Macca I am 100% with you on this one. Klopp doesn’t trust Sturridge or Origi hence why they don’t get more minutes. People say to get another top forward it would mean selling 1 but why does that have to be the case. The team plays 50-60 games a season and 4 players into 3 positions could give them all around roughly 40 starts each and that doesn’t include sub appearances. And imagine having the luxury of bringing a top forward on at the 60 minute mark to change a game rather than a forward with 3 minutes to go as a last roll of the dice. We have a decent array of midfielders now and it has allowed us to rotate them this season which has done us no harm so why would an extra quality forward hinder us instead of improve us. We are extremely fortunate that our front 3 have been injury free this season but if 1 of them was to pick up a substantial knock then we do not have adequate cover to come in and maintain the quality we already have. For me another top forward would help the front 3 not hinder them.


25.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 21:04:54
I think I’m terms of finances to buy a few players this summer we are fine. We will receive money from league for whichever place we finish plus CL money.

I would say outs could generate some funds also. I don’t doubt new players will arrive this summer.


26.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:51:46
So in Regards to strengthing the front 3. the ox will be coming back and we also have shaqiri. Will Wilson be able to step up as cover next season?

We need the middle to offer more going forward in my eyes. We got Keira and fabinho for this but fabinho is only just starting to step up but we are still waiting on Keita. Henderson isn't positive enough, wijnaldum is scared of tackling and Milner will be off in the summer.

Maybe in the summer a player who can play across the front 3, and a midfielder with some creativity.


27.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 20:56:48
Ed 002 you are very much appreciated. I love reading your posts and you're one of the main reasons that I come to this site.

{Ed002's Note - You are very sweey.}


28.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 21:31:02
Macca and Ed002.

Peter Moore gave a comprehensive interview on Radio Merseyside at the back end of last year. I listened to the interview in full and from what he was saying, the club is certainly moving in the right direction, across all aspects of the business. There is still a lot of work to do.

Moore insisted he will do everything in his power to help Jurgen Klopp deliver success at Liverpool. Since the deadly 90’s we have witnessed the only way to deliver success in today’s game is through finance.

What Moore doesn’t have any control of is the players. As we all know in today’s game, players hold all the cards and if they want to leave, they will engineer a move away. So in the case of Salah, I totally trust Ed002 when he says his representatives / agent are touting him around.

The only way we can keep these players is through success and paying top dollar in wages. Prime example is David De Gea. And I refer to him as the later.

Interesting times ahead .

{Ed002's Note - I explained that the requests from Salah's representative got him laughed out of Spain in the summer and he has begged Real Madrid to reconsider rather than buy a couple of the high-end wide players they are looking at and look again at Salah - offering to renegotiate. As I have said, he also spoke with another side.}


29.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 21:57:58
all of this talk about an out and out striker. I just don't think that someone like Werner fits our style. I've said for over a year and will continue to say that someone like Julian Brandt would be the one player that we should target. I understand what his position is and that it may be excess in the views of some, but under Klopp's style of play, he would be absolutely outstanding. I don't think it will happen, but that's the type of player that we should be looking at in the summer instead of a traditional "striker". In my view that traditional striker just doesn't fit into Klopp's style. Again, just my opinion.


30.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 21:58:56
I totally respect Ed02's expertise. Maybe I'm reading into this wrong but possibly it could be down to the fact that we have spent a lot already recently and maybe there are FFP implications.

I am sure if finances allowed we would buy players that Klopp wanted, and all importantly want to come.

It's obvious to me that we will need some squad replacements come the Summer and the all important game- changers from the bench. I am sure Klopp and the club have their plans. If Salah wants to leave then so be it. Plenty of great players have come and gone.


31.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 22:11:01
I have no doubt in the accuracy of Ed’s information regarding Salah looking to move on. I find his demeanour in the first half of the season that of a player unhappy with his situation. His recent form and attitude seems more positive, no surprise there as we are doing so well and he’s going for the golden boot.
I expect Salah to be sold in the summer in order to fund 2 top quality forwards as we continue building a squad to challenge year on year.
People won’t want to hear it and won’t like the thought of our biggest name player leaving however the club will always be bigger than any one player, coach or owner.
Hope Klopp stays for a few more seasons to finish the job and I hope people stop trolling Ed’s over loyalty and support for Macca, the facts are Ed has insight from across the European game and Macca has less info from the club as they seem to have closed ranks compared to seasons previous. Just be grateful for whatever snippets we get and give your opinions without insulting people, it’s really not that difficult to have an opinion without abusing people you have never met and do not know.
Respect each other’s opinions, the knowledge of the Ed’s and their position within the football community.
I don’t care who goes, stays or sulks as long as Liverpool are successful. YNWA.


32.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 22:25:05
Macca is correct, we do need another quality forward to rotate with the big 3, 4 forwards would still get plenty of game time with possibly 50/ 60 games in a season.
I also agree that the front 3 are not rotated as Klopp does not see Origi and Sturridge as adequate replacements.
Due to the huge financial outlay on Alisson, Van Dijk and Fabinho Liverpool may not be in a position to spend big due to FFP, which Ed02 has explained.


33.) 13 Jan 2019
13 Jan 2019 23:11:38
I agree with drogie. If we win the league/ champions league this season. (One can only dream) then players won't want to leave and top players won't mind being rotated. I think it's a season too early to expect Werner to come and be back up or rotated. Maybe next season if all goes according to dream haha. I agree tho cover for the front 3 would be nice but hopefully Wilson or Brewster can provide that going forward.


34.) 14 Jan 2019
14 Jan 2019 01:00:58
Man City have Sane, Aguero, Sterling, and then off the bench Jesus, Mahrez and Bernardo Silva.

I simply don’t buy the argument that we can’t get a player to sit on the bench, as all top clubs have depth and competition, and rotation is a part of life if you play for a club capable of competing for the PL and CL. There’s plenty of game time available for another top forward. I also agree with Macca that we’re in the best possible position to appeal to someone now, competing on multiple fronts and with Klopp in charge.

As to players, while Shaqiri helps tremendously, Klopp uses him often as a midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 so can’t be considered pure backup for the front three, he’s more complementary. Sturridge and Origi don’t fit our style of play at all anymore so I agree makes sense for one of them (or both) to make way for someone like Brandt or Werner. I’m sure if we sell those two (and a few others like Lallana, Moreno etc. ) it would be doable to get in one more top forward. Behind them, we can use Wilson or Camacho to flesh out the squad.


35.) 14 Jan 2019
14 Jan 2019 06:13:34
SGRed - Man City have won 3 premier league titles in the last 7 seasons plus multiple domestic cups.

We haven’t 🤝.


36.) 14 Jan 2019
14 Jan 2019 07:34:45
Ron perhaps A big factor in City winning those titles was their quality squad depth. We are never going to be able to match them as they have the funds to do it. But if we start to improve our squad quality, 1 player at a time if needs be then for me we are heading in the right direction.


37.) 14 Jan 2019
14 Jan 2019 19:21:35
JK - what was the first trophy City won since their takeover.

Clue: it wasn’t the premier league or the champions lesgue.