02 Dec 2018 13:38:12
Ed001 just read this online so I’ve copied and pasted it so please don’t shoot the messenger. What’s your thoughts on this please mate as I’m 99% certain it is BS.

*Klopp, Buvac separation behind Liverpool issues- Serbian journalist*

A Serbian Journalist Milan Marin has offered an insighted detail that Jurgen Klopp is deliberately abandoning Liverpool's way of attacking football as a way to prove to long-time friend Zeljko Buvac

"Many Liverpool fans don't know the real reason why their team is playing way it is, but Mr Klopp does and he is doing it deliberately, I have it on good ground from a friend who works at Liverpool and is close to team and was introduced to me by Buvac when he was at Liverpool. He told me Klopp doesn't want anything to do with any input of Buvac, such is now the hatred of two friends who were best friends from 1990s and worked from 2001 as managers it is sad" he said

"Liverpool fans ask where is the pressing gone? The truth is, Klopp doesn't need the press, it was Buvac style. It's like two friends becoming enemies and even the car one bought for the other, is either parked on the garage or you don't want to drive it again. Naby Keita is a victim of this fall out, because he was bought as a recommendation of Buvac who has relations in Leipzig, but now Klopp isn't playing him, many of the transfers done this summer were all recommended by Buvac and Klopp isn't using them because he wants to introduce a new style and win in his own way. Liverpool fans believe Liverpool can't reproduce last season form, but the issue is Mr Klopp doesn't want to use last season's tactics known as Zeljko Buvac tactics" he added.

{Ed001's Note - it is nonsense mate, Keita got injured or we would have seen a lot more of him and he was signed in the main on the recommendation of one of our players, not Buvac. I am quite sure there is an element of trying to do things differently to prove a point, but it is more than just about that. If the players and staff believed that Klopp was just throwing a petty tantrum about a break-up with his mate, do you think we would not have already known about it? They fell out because they had different ideas and the changes are because of those different ideas not because of the fall out. It was the cause not a consequence of the fall out.}

1.) 02 Dec 2018
02 Dec 2018 13:59:57
Cheers for the reply Ed001 and I agree with everything you've just said.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate. It is just spin to turn an old story into something new. There is still a few months to go before we know for sure if Klopp or Buvac were right, but so far the results are suggesting Buvac was not correct, though the performances are not as exciting.}

2.) 02 Dec 2018
02 Dec 2018 14:18:25
This is my point of view. I have seen on this page, many a time and long long before Buvac had left that the system that they used had been "found out". That Klopp hadn't won a trophy in many years using said system, with Buvac by his side at all times. Also that Klopp needed a defence coach to help with the goals we are leaking etc etc. Well we don't leak goals anymore and we are actually pretty good at defending and as far as I know he didn't get a defence coach, I might be wrong tho. We have also changed our system overall this season, maybe not so dynamic but sitting pretty in the League, trying to keep up with by far the best squad in our league. Yet you hear the "experts" coming out and saying how we miss Buvac. Well we didn't win anything with Buvac here or in Germany, so I'm not surprised Klopp has changed the system a bit, but it seems to me that he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Give the guy a break. We aren't perfect but in my opinion a far more complete team than we were when Buvac had his input.

3.) 02 Dec 2018
02 Dec 2018 15:44:08
There's always going to be people out there wanting to stir things up for us and get people thinking in overdrive mode, this is the exact reason I avoid reading stuff on other sites because 99.9% is complete BS.

4.) 02 Dec 2018
02 Dec 2018 17:15:01
is that player sadio mane by anychance ed01?

{Ed001's Note - yes mate.}

5.) 02 Dec 2018
02 Dec 2018 22:33:24
Irish Rover, you are a beuty. That is the exact point I have been making ever since this whole Buvac nonsense kept coming up. Klopp gave credit to Buvac for being his "brain" and being integral to his success. Suddenly cos they had a falling out, people seem tpo think that Klopp cannot function w/ o him. Abject nonsense. Buvac is NO genius and the last time I checked he was an assistant. if he was that good why did he not go make a name for himself as David Wagner (Klopp's BFF) did?

Also as you say, people bleating on and on about how "we were playing flying football and now that Buvac is gone, we no longer are". Again, a crock of nonsense. Was it not the same Buvac who has been here when we were conceding goals for fun and getting pummeled by the big teams all of last season? Did we win anything with him as assistant ever? Did't think so. This whole Buvac crap is nothing but a Nothing-burger. It is not a thing. Never was and NEVER wil be. So those who keep parroting the same nonsense (esp. from some crackpot Sebian journalist) will continue to embarrass themselves with their ignorance.

6.) 03 Dec 2018
02 Dec 2018 21:00:38
ed how does that work with mane? Do the club go and ask him about naby knowing he was friends with him or is it common enough for senior players in the squad to recommend players to the coaching staff?

{Ed001's Note - it is very common for players to recommend other players. It can be any of a hundred ways, depending on the manager's relationship with the players.}

7.) 03 Dec 2018
03 Dec 2018 11:18:53
cheers ed appreciate the reply🖒🖒.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

8.) 03 Dec 2018
03 Dec 2018 12:21:45
That means mane has a very healthy relationship with klopp!