19 Nov 2018 18:43:13
Clear change in the way Klopp wants his team to play this season. Keep the ball and try win the match instead of scoring three and having to score a 4th to win or running riot and having to make sure that you do not concede more than what you score to win.

1.) 19 Nov 2018
19 Nov 2018 19:29:36
If that's the plan then I think we need to control possession a little bit better imo.

Of course, the two games this season where I thought we kept the ball best, PSG in the CL and Chelsea in the League Cup, we ended up being suckerpunched for 2 goals in the second half of both.

2.) 19 Nov 2018
19 Nov 2018 19:43:51
Spot on, Max. Klopp has reeled the team in and has abandoned this frenetic style that clearly, is entertaining BUT unsustainable and we cannot win the PL with that style. I mean, LFC is the only team I know that would score 3 goals and you still could not say if they would win a game. Some may be happy with that much strain on the team BUT Sorry, I'm not having this whole moan that "we should go back to last season's style".

What we have done is become smarter, more efficient, and more savvy in our approach to games even tho, we MUST improve. Sure we can play better and do more and Klopp himself, has said that multiple times BUT till then, I love the points haul (11 points better than last season in the PL), scored more goals this season at this point than last season as well. Oh, did I say we wiped out a 12 point deficit from City at this point last season?

The fact of the matter is that Klopp and the players have NOTHING more to prove regarding whether we can play fluid footie nd score a hat-full or not. Even Pep is terrified of us so there's your proof. What we need now is the points, first and foremost and if you can play well then great. If you can't, secure the points and ask questions later.

3.) 19 Nov 2018
19 Nov 2018 19:58:44
We don't have good enough players to keep the ball in midfield. The only way we can beat the very best teams is when we play full throttle. Agains't the average teams it is good to conserve some energy but agains't our rivals we should be going at it 100%.

Shaqiri and Keita are must starters for me at the weekend.

4.) 19 Nov 2018
19 Nov 2018 20:37:53
I am not saying keep the ball is all Klopp wants achieve this season but winning the League conceding goals left right and centre is not going to happen. Never has and never will.

5.) 19 Nov 2018
19 Nov 2018 22:40:04
Mark08, not sure what you mean by "our players are not good enough to keep the ball" whereas we have been ranked second (City is first) in terms of possession in the past two seasons. Secondly under Klopp, keeping the ball is a matter of strategy rather than objective as every man and his dog knows that possession means nothing if you can't do much with the ball. Vs big teams on the road, Klopp deliberately allows the oppo. to have more of the ball in a bid to counter them whenever we press high and nick it.

The full throttle football you speak of vs big teams, has only happened when Klopp applies this strategy. It's what he does even in his BVB days. Same in the CL where we pummeled Porto with less possession than we did. Also, watch our games vs City and the other big teams (bar Utd who park the bus) and you will see what I am saying.

6.) 20 Nov 2018
19 Nov 2018 23:39:46
Not trying to have a dig on you markp, but you once said that we need to concede less goals and score more to actually challenge for the title. I don't think our full throttle football we've seen last season can do that.

I couldn't see what are the problems in the midfield. Like I said previously, the team is playing with different style. Some don't like it. I love it. I love the results.

7.) 20 Nov 2018
20 Nov 2018 10:41:49
We won't and probably can't beat Man City if we play the way we played agains't them this season. Of course we need to score more and concede less if we want to win things. Over the last 10 games our results are not good enough to win anything.

If in our next 10 games we lose 2 and draw 3 we will probably be out of Europe and out of the title race. Once you get 6 points behind City little or no chance. I don't think it will happen and we will start playing better. There is a third of the season gone and it is crunch time now. Time for Henderson, Keita, Firmino to actually contribute.

{Ed001's Note - I give up. Some people always just have to look on the bright side of life and find a dark cloud.}

8.) 20 Nov 2018
20 Nov 2018 14:39:02
mark, come on mate, you do realise we're on the Liverpool page? you know, the team who are yet to lose a game? who are only 2 points behind City? 'results are not good enough' where is your head mate? what more do you want? I'm sorry mate I mean no disrespect but your post has really baffled me.

Firmino is fine, Hendo has been brilliant and Keita is new to the squad, it may take until next season for him to adapt properly, this is normal is it not?

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't normally take a season for players to adapt Salah - Keita is a decent footballer but he has always been inconsistent. He also comes with serious attitude issues.}

9.) 20 Nov 2018
20 Nov 2018 16:39:04
Need an honest answer.

Can someone tell me why we changed the system that was working well and suited for all the players that we signed/ trained over the last 3 years?

A manager is known for his style and Klopp’s greatest contribution to football are Lewandowski and Press. Now he has taken out the soul from the team.

If klopp wanted to implement a new style why did he not sign players that suit his style (I don’t even know what style are we playing except we are not a pressing team anymore and are still relying heavily on Salah to score goals)

Baffles me when people say it’s a new style! It takes years for a team to understand a new style let alone play it. Firmino was the press in our system and with this new style we are playing he has become a headless chicken ( poor lad ) He starts the press and bring the two wide man into the game / space he vacates! When he doesn’t press he doesn’t do anything else!

Never understood why people believe attacking means sacrificing defending! That’s bull! Attacking means just attacking. Defending means defending. Your could always attack and still not concede. There were games where we won 4-0, 4-1, 5-0 and I saw nobody talking about any style change!

Last year we conceded coz we had Mignolet at the back with Lovren and Klavan ahead of him! Despite of buying a GK worth £70 mill ( who is an excellent sweeper ) and a CB worth £75 mill ( probably the best in the league and one of the best passer of the ball) if you still think we have to be extremely careful not to concede then we bought poor players!

Mark is right! We do not have skillfull players to play the possession football! Period! Our midfielders are workhorse and ball winners who is suited to counter press and release it and not to keep it under pressure and tight areas. Please go and watch!

If you really think we have iniesta and Silva at the club to keep the ball under intense pressure and not to lose them then you are all in dreamland! We have Wijnaldum and Milner who are not good in doing that! Do you all get it?

I know we are only 2 behind city but we are only 1 ahead of Chelsea and 3 ahead of Arsenal lol! A defeat against Watford / Everton and we are back to same old discussion!

10.) 20 Nov 2018
20 Nov 2018 18:54:09
Harry, your posts are often full of contradictions and this one is no different. You spent all of the past 2 seasons berating Klopp for not being more prudent and pragmatic in his approach cos to you, the all out style was suicidal and would not help us win a trophy. In fact, you said he should play like Mou does. Now, you come and say why did he change the all out style to a more pragmatic one. So now you are slating him for doing exactly what you said he should do, right? Typical contradictory statement coming from you.

You also said we should defend better. Well, we are doing that and winning more points than we did when we played the all out style and you are still moaning. Sorry, man BUT no one cares about Iniesta, Silva or whatever nonsense player you put up who don't play for us and never will cos that's all you seem to know how to do. We are trying to win the PL with a new approach to games and yes, we don't press anymore for obvious reasons. If you want to know why then as the Ed's will say, "Read The Posts".

Face it bro, You are just here to moan and whine cos you are only interested in being right as your post is full of contradictions but again, who is surprised about that? You have been moaning about Klopp since he got here and he can do nothing right in your eyes so why stop now?

11.) 20 Nov 2018
20 Nov 2018 20:55:21
Firmino has been fine? Not from what I have been watching he has been crap, a mile of last season. Keita has not got started and Hendo just can't stay fit. I know you are the eternal optimist but come on call a spade a spade. All 3 need to improve if we are to compete. As you have said before we can't afford to drop many points so I feel we need to kick on, I think we will.

12.) 20 Nov 2018
20 Nov 2018 22:35:49
Mark08, was that post directed at me cos I never mentioned any player's name in my comment?