01 Aug 2018 20:08:40
Hi obviously happy with the transfers so far, the team looks strong and bulky but does anyone else think we need a world class striker, a real center forwad? I never see this mentioned . Bobby is ok and Studge isn't reliable injury wise . If firmino gets injured then what . I just think you need a true world class center forwad to win this league . Do we have any interest in any decent strikers this year?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are overrun with strikers.}


1.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 20:28:14
I lose the will to live with posts like this 🙄.

{Ed025's Note - save a bullet for me 87.. :)


2.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 20:52:23
Bobby is ok? Read no further.


3.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 20:51:52
Oh sweet Lord Ed025 I'll split my Valium with you.

{Ed025's Note - cheers barry, viagra would be better though mate.. :)


4.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 21:01:27
I stopped reading at 'Bobby is ok'.


5.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 21:08:36
Bobby is a world class centre forward. But he's also a number 10 and number 8 and even a number 11/ 7.

There is not 1 cf in the world I would swap him for. 27 goals last season and tonnes of assists.

Firmino has been liverpool best kept secret for 3 years, the veil is down now and I think the next 5 years Bobby will be considered one of the very best in the world.

The mixture of pace, power and technical ability is really rare, throw in his vision and effort and he really is out there on his own.

If he got injured, well we still have mane and salah who would incorporate Solanke or Sturridge. Maybe even brewster. It's not a problem.

You always know the fans that don't watch every game as it's them who say Bobby needs replacing. The rest of us know it's ridiculous.

{Ed025's Note - with the likes of kane and aguero out there thats a massive shout robbie, plus the fact that he rarely starts for his national side makes your boasts seem a bit over the top mate, dont get me wrong i think hes a very good player but i would stop short of "one of the very best in the world"..


6.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 21:16:05
Fair play to FowlerPower they are only asking a question and it’s not about a random player. There isn’t anyone who can “replace” Bobby and that might be what FP is getting at.

I think the majority of people are hoping Sturridge can stay fit and Solanke can step up. After that we have Brewster knocking on the door and he could be incredible 🤝.


7.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 21:25:23
I spit my tea out at bobby is ok! Not even enjoying my biscuits now im raging that much.


8.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 21:36:22
Bobby is ok? Wtf dude Bobby is the lynchpin that holds the pressing together. Find me a ‘world class’ striker with as many turn overs as him with the same chances created, assists and goals. And which one would be happy to warm our bench? Firmino with the above qualities and his influence in Alisson’s decision to sign or your new world class striker?


9.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 21:57:35
Bobby is ok?, even if you assume we will sell Ings and Origi, we still have Brewster and Solanke. How many strikers do you want, not to mention the fact that the upcoming strikers will never get a game if Liverpool add a world class striker.
Furthermore, a world class striker these days would cost over a hundred million. that's if we can find one, there are not many around.
I would prefer to give Brewster a chance, he could be the top striker we are looking for anyway, we won't know unless we give him a chance.


10.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 21:59:10
Bobby is a much better player than Kane, in almost every way. I say that because firstly, I think Firmino is one of the best out there, and secondly because I think that Kane is over rated by most. I am sure that people will disagree with me, but either they haven’t watched Firmino enough, or they haven’t watched Kane enough.

{Ed025's Note - hmmmm, so you think people will disagree nick?....only 95% of the football world i would say mate..


11.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 22:01:38
I’d expand on Robbie’s point, Ed025.

Bobby IS the best in the world - FOR US!

What the OP is totally missing is how we play.

We don’t play to a front man like Kane, so someone like him wouldn’t work for us.

I don’t care whether our players are the best ranked on FIFA, or if their national teams rate them or not, or even if they win the Balon d’Or or not.

I care about us being the best TEAM.

That’s all that should matter to us.

{Ed025's Note - he certainly works for liverpool zed i agree..


12.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 22:11:53
He only misses out for Brazil because Jesus and neymar are buddies. Imo.

{Ed025's Note - its a stitch up i tell ya..


13.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 22:27:33
Ed I don’t think you can use the argument that as an argument, when they start Paulinho.

{Ed025's Note - its how the manager sees it firmane i suppose..


14.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 22:49:14
Firmino done more in 20 minutes at the wc than jesus did in 5 games. Jesus is neymars mate. Imo Brazil would do better if they ditched neymar. Its a team sport and he isn't a team player. And there is a reason teams have managers and pick the team and not let some spoilt bratty, who ain't as good as he thinks he is do it.

I didn't say Bobby is the best in the world, I said in the next 5 years he will be considered one of the best and I stand firmly by that. I hope and believe it will coinside with liverpool's rise to the top.


15.) 01 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 23:14:11
lets hope Bobby gets more than his usual 14 goals in the league, and scores some to win us points. He can't just leave it to Salah when we need a goal.

He is better than ok but a long way from being world class. He needs the champions league performances a lot more often in the league.

{Ed0333's Note - Bobby not world class? Name me 5 better players in his position please markp?


16.) 02 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 23:34:50
'long way from being world class'

mark, seriously lol if you can't put Firmino in the world class bracket then I seriously question if you even watch the games because if you did you'd know he is. Firmino isn't just 'better than ok' he's top notch mate, world class. It's not all about goals, why can't people like you see what else he has to offer on that pitch.

I think many people use 'world class' far too much but Bobby is up there.

Do you think Salah would've scored as many as he did if Firmino wasn't on the pitch?


17.) 02 Aug 2018
01 Aug 2018 23:35:17
Long way from being world class?
Eh?
Are we even talking about the same sport here?
You could argue that Bobby isn't world class, but he'd be the level right below that. And I feel he'd be underestimated at that.
Bobby isn't a long way from being world class, you're just a long way from realizing what he actually brings to the team.
Try actually watching him play for 90 minutes instead of reading stats.


18.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 00:01:24
Well 27 last season. And with 3 strikers that is exceptional.


19.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 00:28:47
I have one current Liverpool player jersey and I hope I don't need another for several years. Firmino is the most under appreciated player I have ever cheered for. It was absolutely criminal that he couldn't get on the field with Jesus doing heff all on the pitch and Neymar rolling around all over it! To say Bobby is ok is an obvious attempt at being a troll.


20.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 00:32:59
I call him god 2,

He's that good, just watch him in a whole match not a 10 min highlight reel.

There isn't a forward in the world with his skill set, so who do you compare him to, he's a one off.


21.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 06:22:33
Its funny people have forgotten sturridge plays for liverpool. and he will be the reason we win or loose the PL this season. I say 6 winning goals off the bench.


22.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 02:51:49
Ed 25, at one point 99% of the world thought the earth was flat. Doesn’t mean they were right now does it?

{Ed025's Note - but they were probably liverpool supporters nick..


23.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 08:33:17
Firmino wasn't that good in the league last year, 90% of his top performances were in the champions league. He is not alone in that Mane was the same. Salah would score very nearly the same regardless of Firmino. Salah would get 50 goals playing for Madrid or Barca. If Mane, Coutinho, Salah played up front together goals would not be an issue. In the final I would much rather Firmino went off than Salah. With Mane and Salah we still had a good chance. With Firmino and Mane no chance.

Firmino has to step up in the league - especially agains't our rivals. He hasn't turned up in any final, he has never turned up agains't Man Utd (he was great home v City but that is one in ten) . For me if we want to win the league he must bring his A game in important league matches. Hopefully Keita will make the system work better.

IMO Keita, VVD, Mane and Salah are better players and more important to our side than Firmino. Last year Firmino was running into midfield but still none of our midfield got any goals. This year when Keita starts to win games and get goals you will give all the credit to Firmino.

Firmino's style only works with the correct real quality players around him. If Firminho played up front for Everton he would not change where they finished in the league, but you put Salah in their side and all of a sudden they would improve greatly.

{Ed001's Note - seriously? Do you actually know who Firmino is? Only it reads like you have never seen him play....}


24.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 10:06:34
I watch him every week. I think he is a good player but no more than that.

His league form last year was just ok for a top centre forward, where as in Champions league he was great until the most important game.

I am saying Mane and Salah are better players.

{Ed001's Note - I give up, if you think Bobby is merely good then it is pointless talking to you. I am done with this convo.}


25.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 10:20:31
Bobby is great player but sometimes is not striker clinical in front of goal. As for Jesus I think Brazil waited to long to replace him for Bobby. He makes thinks happen were Jesus I think wasn't having a great tournament. Top world class strikers would score lots of goals for us, maybe more than Bobby. But I'm more than happy with what we have at the moment. Maybe when one of these strikers become available we will throw our hat in the ring.


26.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 10:46:02
You're wrong mark, usually I'd be saying each to their own opinions right now but no, you're wrong and to be quite honest it seems you haven't got a clue what you're talking about mate.

If there's anybody I'd dread to see leave Liverpool it's Firmino, how you don't rate him how he should be rated is beyond me. A 'good' player is Lovren, a top class player is Hendo and a world class player is Firmino.


27.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 11:18:53
If you are happy with his league performances last year then you are just settling. He like Mane, Hendo etc need to step up in the league. There was a reason we were only 4th even with Salah being brilliant it was because some of the other players Firmino included didn't perform well enough over a season in the league.

If we had a chance in the last 5 minutes to win a match who would you want the chance to fall to Salah or Firmino?

Firmino will do better this year in the league due to squad improvement but for me he has to.

{Ed001's Note - the reason we were only 4th is because we had an unsettled back 5 for almost the entire season, not because of Firmino.}


28.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 11:30:38
mark can you at least please explain why his league performances weren't good enough? instead of just saying they weren't good enough at least have something solid to go on mate.

Last season there was nothing up with our attack, our midfield was inconsistent and as Ed1 says the back 5 were mostly unsettled. The defence this season will be much more solid with Alisson behind them, the defence have worked together enough to be gelled now, I think we'll be fine in all departments but last season there were a few things what needed to be ironed out (which have been now imo), the attack isn't one of them.