05 Jul 2018 10:31:16
I don't get it why is everybody so against shaqiri.
He will not be a stater just a cover option. and he can chip in games where the front three need some resting.
If anything shaqiri is an excellent replacement for markovich/ ojo/ kent who don't hold any future at LFC.
As for attitude problems, i believe Keita has issues. nobody is crying over that because he is a steal, a remarkable talent.

If shaqiri feels happy signing for LFC we have a decent little player at our dsiposals.

Also its not the first team LFC lacks in its the inappropriate cover and Klopp is looking to address it. so i don't think shaqiri has anything to do with fekir.

if we get a keeper in i think we are already much stronger than last season (fekir or not) i think we are serious title contenders.


1.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 10:55:16
To go from Coutinho to Shaqiri though mate. well, I won't say anymore than that.
We can review come the end of the transfer window.


2.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:07:55
Is a goal every 6 games really that impressive? He is a highlight reel player. If you shoot from 30 yards 50 times a season, a few are bound to fly in eventually. In league games, he has had 157 shots and only 53 have hit the target, with only 15 going in. That is roughly a 9% conversion rate. He's the personification of trial and error.

I do appreciate that he has good striking technique, good pace, and good vision. I'm not here to do him an injustice and deny he has any ability at. His application and decision making is awful though, which makes him very inconsistent. If he only averages 5 goals a season when he is starting nearly every game and taking every free kick, odds are he'll struggle to score more than 1 or 2 goals when he is in and out of the team.

Solanke, Sturridge, Ings, Origi, Wilson and Ojo are all good enough to score 5 goals a season if they played 3000 minutes of football in a team built around them.


3.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:14:59
Thats the point though, he wouldn't be replacing Coutinho he would get games covering Mané and Salah. He could even play through the middle in some games where Bobbys rested or the early rounds of the cups.

{Ed001's Note - so may as well scrap the academy now if we are going to sign crap instead of giving them a chance, even though they would actually make an effort.}


4.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:15:57
we have already replaced Coutinho with salah and keita if anything.
Shaqiri in no way is coutinho replacement. He is cover for front three. Coutinho has already been replaced. he played wings and midfield and now we have a better winger than coutinho in salah and a better midfielder than coutinho in keita.

with a 4-3-3 we hardly need a so called "AM" and we have already signed players (salah and keita) better suited to 4-3-3.


5.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:18:33
I’m not against him, good at free kicks and corners will be a good option coming off the bench.


6.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:21:01
“To go from Coutinho to Shaqiri” is just silly, it implies we’re replacing Coutinho with Shaqiri when that clearly isn’t the case. He’s been touted as a buy to provide cover.

I personally am hoping we don’t sign the player. Akshit yes Keita also has attitude problems but you mentioned the significant difference yourself, Keita is a talent. I don’t want to risk squad chemistry over a cover buy. Also Keita was young and more likely to change. He was also in a weird position where he was at a club having already been transferred. Shaqiri’s attitude problems have been an issue his whole career. If the transfer happens I’ll support him but I hope it doesn’t.


7.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:26:25
Oh ed 001 doesn't rate him. now i get it.

{Ed001's Note - don't be a prick akshit. People are capable of making their own minds up. It is you who has read a load of opinions about Raiola and regurgitated them on here as fact. But I am sure you know him and his plans for his players personally and so are not taking anyone else's words into account in your nonsense post about him.}


8.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:26:48
How can Shari get games covering Mane and Salah?
That's like replacing Linford Christie with Agatha Christie.

I've got Keita as primarily being a de-luxe Wijnaldum; greater goal threat and creativity but that mobility to play high-tempo and get up and down the park.

In games / situations where you don't necessarily need a DM (Fabinho), I have Keita and Henderson as the midfield legs and the AM (ex Coutinho) as the creative fulcrum?
Perhaps Fekir or Shaqiri - in which case, are they either / or Ed?


9.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:30:02
Well said ed01 and totally agree mk.

One thing that strikes me about liverpool these days is the professionalism around the club, the easy going atmosphere and hard working players. Shaquri is the opposite to all those things. He is the type of player who distances himself from his team mates when things are going wrong. I don't want him near our bunch.

He has talent but it doesn't shine through in every game, barely 50% of games does he do anything. He's not that good either.

Put it this way, if utd signed him we would be laughing at them. I rest my case. God I hope he doesn't sign.

If he does, I will support him.

{Ed001's Note - spot on, if he signs he gets support, but I desperately hope he doesn't.}


10.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:35:44
i see it this way, to get a starting spot at LFC, shaqiri would need to work remarkably hard to displace one of bobby, mane or salah.
if he can do that we have a great player for the cheaps and if not he is just a bit part cover player who might impact a game or two. i'd say again he is replacing likes of kent, ojo, markovich who have no future at LFC.

{Ed001's Note - say it as many times as you like but it is crap. No one is replacing those players at all. They are not in the squad to need replacing. Some people come up with the most ludicrous attempts to justify signing a player they like.}


11.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:47:15
For me he doesn't look like a Klopp signing. He doesn't do a lot a tracking back and he doesn't bust a gut to win the ball back like our front three. Maybe Klopp could inspire him to do so? I don't know! He does have some quality tho and could possibly be a better fit than Sturridge or Ings if he applied himself. Anyway it's all pure speculation at the minute, who knows what's going to happen.


12.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:47:29
If you don't rate him and i do it, doesn't mean what i say to justify is crap. as a matter of fact i donot agree with your opinions on him lacking effort. he is cover and i rate him as cover player.

As for riola what wrong did i say its a fact he is selling his clients for best money to fill his pockets. he got a large sum from pogba transfer and is one of the richest football agents.

{Ed001's Note - no but the crap was your idiotic attempt to justify the signing as a replacement for players that were not even in the squad. It just shows the level you will stoop to in order to justify your ridiculous assertions. You won't let truth get in the way will you?

That was not what you said about Raiola. Perhaps you should learn to stop at that in future, as it is clear the rest of your comments were just snide digs. A bit like your snide comment regarding me not liking Shaqiri. You have been warned about this before, making snide digs at people.}


13.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 11:52:49
Akshit, you literally mention his attitude problems yourself. Do you Earnest think these won’t be an issue? Especially if he’s not getting game time? Or are you just ignoring points that don’t fit your narrative. Their are better cover options out there.

If we get the player fine, he’ll be supported. But it’s just silly not to try and look at both sides of the argument.


14.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:00:20
People dislike him akshit because the things he does are highly unlikeable. Everyone knows the guy can play but in football at the highest level, talent is not everything. Mentality is massive, application and effort count for a hell of a lot. He is poor in that side of his game. He is fat and the reason we don't see enough of his talent is coz he doesn't apply himself enough

I agree with you that if klopp could get him in shape and somehow change his whole outlook he could be a good player. But we have some brilliant, highly thought of youngsters who play in the attacking areas and I can't think of someone who deserves THEIR chances (the kids chances I mean) less than shaquri.


15.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:06:14
Wats all the fuss about shaqiri? I love that song, 'hips don't lie' and that vid she done with Rihanna. And shes married to a Barcelona player. quite decent I think.


16.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:08:45
That's a very very good point eamonsf mate. We know his attitude is not top notch and how will he handle not playing. Could go either way but on past evidence I'd suggests he would regress. Good point, well made.


17.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:11:13
Personally I do think Shaqiri is a lazy player but having seen how Klopp manages with Mane (who is allegedly one player who has attitude issues) I'm not worried.

I can't believe for one second that Klopp wouldn't be saying to him that if he wants to succeed at Lfc he will need to adapt his game to work hard. What do you think Ed1? Do you think Klopp sees the potential beyond the laziness?

{Ed001's Note - if he signs him then he must do.}


18.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:13:27
Advice taken.
maybe you should also not call out players problematic and lacking effort and useless when they clearly are not.
he sulks, a lot i take that, but he is a hardworking and industrious player. you have called him out as lazy and lacking effort and what not, that doesn't go well with me.

will take care in future and won't take digs.

{Ed001's Note - except his coaches have called him lazy and problematic. He spends 90% of his time on the pitch stood watching with his hands on his hips, hardly hard working and industrious is it? I call out players that deserve it, and he clearly deserves to be called out as that was why he got booted out of Bayern, nothing to do with talent. I don't care what goes well with you or doesn't, I will say what I think. I am not going to start running things past you to check if your bizarre perceptions agree with mine before I comment.}


19.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:37:54
coaches or pundits like gary neville?

{Ed001's Note - how on earth would I know what he said? If I say coaches I mean coaches. I am done with you and your snide comments. I will no longer waste my time on you.}


20.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:38:56
Fair play ak. In the words of John Power (cast front man) "dont you think our live would be a little dull if we had the same thoughts" debate is what makes this site class.


21.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:48:33
Wow do people actually believe he's going to start or he is a replacement for coutinho hahahahahah

How does he get in the team over mane, bobby, mo, keita, fabinho, hendo.

What he does give us though is some cover for mos left foot so when h3s not playing we can remain in out favoured system and the passes and movement we make isn't to disputed my having a right footed in place of mo.


22.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 12:59:39
Ed1, very well said in every single note.

As I said this morning, I just can't believe people who would back up such signing, it's just beyond me.


23.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 13:27:47
Where would you see Shaqiri playing if signed and selected Ed001?
Personally, I don't see a natural place for him in our team. Not quick / mobile enough for out wide, not at a level for AM that we should aim for?

{Ed001's Note - I really do not know.}


24.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 13:52:25
So yet again we are divided. Most don't want him signed and some do. I have offended ed001, which well I did push it a bit and of course got an earful too.
I see it as a good signing and one i'd be looking forward to.


25.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 14:21:26
He's cover that is all.

It doesn't require us to abdonon the academy just get a good loan got Wilson and ojo and use shaqiri whilst they come of age.

And let's face it unless a big injury, when is klopp dropping mo. So instead of Wilson waiting around for an opportunity, he can be out smashing it in the championship.

{Ed001's Note - so spend millions in wages and buying a player that we don't actually need makes sense to you? Why not just buy better players in the positions we can improve?}


26.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 14:18:46
i'd rather see Wilson bein given the chance to cover the wings and i'd be delighted if that happens. Unfortunately i don't see it happening this year and can see him heading out to get another full season of games. Hopefully im wrong though and Wilson runs amok in pre-season. I'd much rather youth in general be given a shot than millions being spent on squad players who play a handful of games and block the kids coming through.


27.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 14:47:37
It all boils down to what Klopp sees, as Im sure more than 50% of the people against Shaquiri's signing also doubted Oxlade before we signed him.

So why don't we all just relax and see what happens.


28.) 05 Jul 2018
05 Jul 2018 16:17:41
Ed in this day and age every player costs millions in wages but it's over a 4 or 5 year period so even if he's on 80k a week, that's 3 mil a year and then what 12 mil transfer fee for someone who klopp might just make special and a good quality prem winger to make sure we don't suffer to much without pace if mo or mane get injured.

If we offload Danny who is on 150k a week for the reported 8 mil from besiktas then it's a solid move do you think not

Also where is left that we need huge huge money to improve. We've got 100 mil in cms just signed. An 80 mil cb. Mo has extended his contract. Mane and bobs look to be staying, well bobby extended aswel didn't he

We have a bench now of mignolet, Gomez, Matip, Milner, wij, shaqiri and origi.

We still have potential sales from clyne, ings, studge, Moreno, lallaba,

So we can recoup some mulla

I just don't think there is as much risk as your making out to our future purchases nor the well being of the club's finances.

Lastly there was similar arguments to Chamberlain signing and that worked out all right.

{Ed001's Note - I just don't see the point in wasting money on a player that no one believes is good enough to force his way into the team and so is purely a sub or injury cover. No matter how cheap, it is a waste of money. Put it towards quality or invest it into the academy, but these transfers are what cost Houllier, Rafa and Rodgers their jobs. Buying bench players is never a good policy.}