Boxing Legends Part 1 - Mike Tyson

04 Jun 2018 10:30:52
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Boxing Legends Part 1 - Mike Tyson


1.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 10:35:05
Oh wow Ed you absolute legend. I have been looking forward to this for weeks. I can't read it right now but looking forward to later on today, thank you mate. 13 parts, get in!

{Ed001's Note - I just hope it is ok mate, because it was so stop start I am not sure if it will flow properly. I didn't want to go back and start redoing it though as I would end up never getting it finished!}


2.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 11:04:17
Ah I wouldn't worry about that Ed mate, these are always fantastic, I have no doubt this will be. Roll on later!

{Ed001's Note - I hope so mate, not had time to read it through myself to check it even for errors yet.}


3.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 11:13:34
wow simply amazing mate hats off to you
it was the same mitch green btw lol
loved the article and I never knew how much of a drugs addict he was just always thought of him as not very educated and a lout
great boxer who sadly had the wrong people around him after cus died
Thanks ed for a truly great article.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. Really glad you enjoyed it. I can finally read his autobiography Salah sent me now. Didn't want to read it first in case I ended up subconsciously taking pieces from it. He was uneducated as a child but he has spent a lot of time educating himself since. He is a voracious reader apparently.}


4.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 11:18:06
Great read mate, looking forward to the rest 👍.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}


5.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 11:18:56
Cracking read so far thanks pal.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}


6.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 12:06:05
Wow what a read.

{Ed001's Note - thank you very much.}


7.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 12:10:31
Enjoy the autobiography Ed mate I'm sure you will, it doesn't hold back which I really like (unlike most) . I think it may be ONE of the best autobiographies I have ever read.

{Ed001's Note - Ed0333 raves about it as well. It is next on my list once I finish the one I am currently in the middle of, the Bellamy one.}


8.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 12:19:31
Brilliant ed01, loved Tyson, real shame how it ended up, but he seems to be on the right track now!

{Ed001's Note - I loved watching him fight too. He was something special to behold until it all went wrong.}


9.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 12:46:38
For me the Aura left after the Danny Williams fight but nevertheless Tyson is one of the best ever inside of the ring and is probably the only Heavyweight who would have given Ali a run for his money if both were on the top of their game in a match.

{Ed001's Note - for just a few short months, he would probably have beaten anyone he faced, whether it be Ali, Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, whoever. It is just that he lost his edge the moment he destroyed Spinks.}


10.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 12:54:19
Ed001 is their any chance you would consider doing a Arturo Gatti article as I loved this guy and it was so sad to see the way he died
but in the ring oh my word what a warrior you will not see any better battle then against Micky Ward (the first fight)

{Ed001's Note - of course mate, I will put him to the top of the list to do when I next get round to a boxing one.}


11.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 13:15:05
This is the Liverpool page .

- just kidding :)

{Ed001's Note - haha. Git.}


12.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 13:39:27
Just to echo Salah's and Ed0333's view, the Mike Tyson autobiography is awesome! So many layers to this guy, and certainly a lot more 'intelligence' than I gave him credit for.

Excellent write up as always, Tris!

Z.


13.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 13:50:26
Great read Ed's, not sure if he was a boxer who did a few crimes or a criminal who did a bit of boxing now.

I'd wholehearted agree that at his all too short peak he'd have blown anyone out of the ring.

{Ed001's Note - I prefer to look at it as he was an abused child who did not get the help he needed to guide his supreme talent.}


14.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 13:55:14
Thank you Ed look forward to reading it when it is finished.

{Ed001's Note - I am looking forward to doing that one as I know almost nothing about the guy. The research will be really interesting for me.}


15.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 14:08:47
Ahhh it ended so suddenly. I'll not make comparisons.


16.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 14:15:35
Great fighter, I can't think of many people I'd like to fight less (mother in law of course)


17.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 14:19:30
Tyson isn't a top 10 heavyweight, or if he is he's in the bottom half. I work in boxing amongst other things now (mostly with Warren and occasionally with GBP, Haymon and TR, never had the pleasure of Matchroom) .

Tyson was a brilliant fighter for a short period of time and a fascinating man, but his body of work isn't what it should be and that is how fighters are judged over time. Tyson's era was as weak as Holmes but he was more exciting which is why he largely gets a pass. He had fundamental weaknesses that people seem to ignore because he knocked out an old Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks (who has spent the majority of his career two weight classes below) and a decent Berbick.

Tyson was a mid-range hooker that would destroy you if you stayed in the pocket and didn't know how to step further inside or have the movement, footspeed and jab to stay out of the pocket. Holyfield beats him 9 times out of 10 for that reason, Holyfield wasn't a better Heavyweight than Tyson but that sort of fighter Tyson is always going to struggle with. Lennox Lewis the same (who is British and identifies as such Ed001, by his own admission and in conversation with him, was a bullied relentlessly as a child for his British accent in Canada) Lewis gives Tyson trouble no matter which version of Tyson he fights.

There are styles which have exposable flaws, rewatch Forrest destroy Shane Mosley to become the consensus best fighter in the world only to lose twice to the 'caveman' Ricardo Mayorga. Or the late 40's where one of the best defensive fighters to even live lost to roughhouse Sandy Saddler 3 times. There are instances where fighters lose on a bad day like Lewis - Rahman or Ray Robinson - Turpin, the losses to Holyfield especially were not an example of that.


18.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 15:20:32
Cheers looking forward to seeing some new ones soon.

{Ed001's Note - hope you enjoyed neggie. Oh and to Im (or is it lm? never sure which it is) I know Lewis is a Brit, it was just a joke as Tyson is a bit of a dark character and doesn't really give much chance for anything lighthearted.}


19.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 16:36:33
Only managed to read a few parts Ed mate but will read the rest when I get home but just wanted to say, it's absolutely spot on and brilliantly written. Thank you mate, this was worth the wait.

Johncrow that's a brilliant suggestion!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, hope you enjoy the rest as much.}


20.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 16:37:33
Cracking cracking review ed on my favourite boxer ever. He is absolutely one of the greats and a gloriously underrated counter puncher. Very few people can see beyond his ferocity. It all went wrong when D’Amato passed on like you said. Who knew how he would have turned out without some of those dreadful influences. On top of that, how great could he have become had there been any sort of competition out there. Was absolutely amazing to get such a thorough and informed article. Really really enjoyed it. Can’t wait for the next one.

{Ed001's Note - that is the big issue he has, he never beat any great fighters. Glad you enjoyed anyway.}


21.) 04 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 16:54:24
Ed are you doing a tennis one by any chance? I would love to see one of these on Rafa Nadal and Federer!

{Ed001's Note - I was intending to start a series just on sporting heroes, basically anyone who wasn't football or boxing. They are on the list. It is just getting time to get to it.}


22.) 05 Jun 2018
04 Jun 2018 23:48:56
Great read that Ed thanks.

{Ed001's Note - thank you Trw.}


23.) 05 Jun 2018
05 Jun 2018 02:07:10
Ed1, I've had a bloody crap day, highlight of my day? seeing my family and reading that. You sir, are made for this.

What I'm most impressed with is the amount of research you must've done to write such a detailed profile from before his career and throughout it.

I don't know which one I like better, this one or the Cruyff one? both are absolutely fantastic mate. Both are legends, the word legend is thrown about these days far too often but these two really fit the bill. Tyson was my all time favourite and I don't think any boxer will ever be above him for me, not in my life time anyway.

I just want to say. I love reading when I have time and I've read plenty on Tyson but reading that article I found out stuff I had no idea about! so it shows how deep you went into research, this is what articles should be about. Too many people do a 20 minute article, publish it and it's full of crap everybody already knows about. This took you weeks of research and it's really shown.

I think you'll be able to relate, you can read so much online about something/ somebody and the majority of the time it gives us nothing new. Your articles are different, I thought I knew a lot about Cruyff until you wrote that one, I was mistaken and learnt a lot. Same goes for this Tyson one.

I thank you, you are different to other writers online. The difference between you and others is pretty simple, you make the effort, something so many are incapable of.

This was well worth the wait, it won't be the last time I read it either. Thank you again Ed, no matter what the next article is, I look forward to it.

{Ed001's Note - thank you very much mate. That is one of the reasons why I avoid reading autobiographies before, I don't want to just take bits from them. It would be easy to just witter on about Tyson and his pigeons, as just about every article did, for instance, but what is the point in that? We all know Tyson loves his pigeons. I could have gone into more details about his fights, describing them, but you can go watch them on youtube or whatever for that.

To be fair, he is, like Cruyff, very easy to write about. He gives you so many stories that the problem is trying to keep it manageable!}


24.) 05 Jun 2018
05 Jun 2018 06:39:39
Brilliant read Ed001, didn't want it to end when it did! Thanks so much for the write up. I lost interest in boxing a while ago as I used to box a bit as a youngster, but of recent years a certain 6'9 gypsy king got me back into it and I'm so excited to see his comeback happen! Any chance of an article on Tyson Fury? Think he was named after the great man after all?

{Ed001's Note - I have added him to the list, he is certainly an interesting character.}


25.) 05 Jun 2018
05 Jun 2018 07:54:53
And that Ed1 is why you are a unique writer mate and a bloody brilliant one at that. I said it before but must say it again, you're by far the best writer I've seen on the internet.

SkySaleh, Tyson Fury was indeed named after Mike Tyson. It was his dad's decision. Fury would be an interesting one to read about, I mean personally I don't like him, I think he's an utter fool and he should count his blessings he's getting back into the ring but, it'll be entertaining ride no doubt. He kind of reminds me of Tyson in regards to not giving a flying sausage about what people think, I'll give him that he has had me laughing at times.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. Ed0333's eyes will be going even more green. He thinks you and I are having an affair and he is gutted because he wants to be my summer fling. Bless him.}


26.) 05 Jun 2018
05 Jun 2018 08:25:14
Hahaha! the bugger figured us out, I can't believe it! Just tell him there's plenty more fish in the sea but hands off my Ed1, lol.

{Ed001's Note - his wife will be gutted she is stuck with him.}