28 May 2018 15:49:20
Hi guys,
Interesting thing going on web. 1. Someone file petition to fifa against Ramos and already over 320K people signed it.
2. Egyptian lawyer file lawsuit against Ramos for $1B.
Do you think UEFA will take any action against Ramos for Salah injury, Mane yellow card and Karius elbowed by Ramos?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Of course not, the lawyer, the people of Egypt and Salah will all become a complete laughing stock. This could of course be even more damaging for Salah. It is utter stupidity.}

1.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 16:43:22
Agree with ed here, I do think Ramos acted intentionally and is in general a hateful man, but to file a lawsuit against him for this seems embarrassing.

2.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 16:55:50
100% agree with Ed and Bmena. I believe he did it intentionally but the footage is in no way conclusive and this petition is an embarrasment.

3.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 16:12:18
As a surrealist Ed002 you must be pretty impressed with these people 😄.

{Ed002's Note - I am a surrealist not an impressionist Ron.}

4.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 17:26:26
Is that a joke a lawyer taking a lawsuit or what! Just let go!

5.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 17:01:16
How will Salah become a laughing stock if he’s got nothing to do with it? As I read it, an individual (not Salah) has started a petition and an Egyptian lawyer (again not Salah and, as far as I know, not instructed by him) has filed a lawsuit, that’s if both are even true.

Unless you mean that Salah should distance himself from it. Harry Kane was a laughing stock because he claimed a dubious goal and swore on his daughter! s life. If someone had started a petition that was nothing to do with him to claim it I doubt if he would have been ridiculed.

Either way, they won’t do any good because UEFA will not do anything about it. People would be better served starting petitions against UEFA’s scandalous ticket allocations and venue choices in places that don’t have the infrastructure and I’m not even going to mention their choice of referees. Even that would probably be a waste of time. If supporters nationwide organised boycotts of the products of UEFA’s main sponsors unless they started to consider the paying supporters they just might listen to that when the sponsors started screaming at them or withdrew their sponsorship.

{Ed002's Note - Salah will become a laughing stock due to the publicity, the frivilous nature of the matter and because other fans will want to see him whimpering in public again. I have no idea why you think this is any way relevant to Harry Kane but he was a matter of constant ridicule from the Liverpool fans for weeks after - and that was over some trivial and low-profile Premier League issue.

Of course UEFA won't do anything about this absolute nonsense. And great way ahead for the bitter Liverpool fans to behave - start boycotting UEFA's sponsors - you make sure no Liverpool fans buy any more Gazprom shares. You are some sort of joke - let me know how you get on with this - I assume you won't be drinking Heineken or using your Mastercard either. Maybe the rest of the world could boycott the Liverpool sponsors who are socially questionable (e.g. Bet Victor who concentrate on exploiting the poor, stupid and vulnerable people of Britain's inner cities - like Liverpool), socially bankrupt or have caused the club embarrassment (e.g. Dunkin’ Donuts), nonsense (Nivea and the club’s official coconut water supplier TCC), or are from a country with controversial human rights (flag carrier Malaysian Airlines – who replaced just as bad Indonesia’s Garuda)? Way to go.}

6.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 18:21:36
That lawyer must have run out of ambulances to chase. The Egyptian Lionel Hutz.

7.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 18:42:24
The Salah petition / lawsuit and Kane’s ghost goal are not linked in any way, other than by the words ‘laughing stock’ which you mentioned. I used it to show why one was and one wasn’t. Maybe not the best analogy but whatever.

You don’t know me to know whether I am a joke either and Um not a bitter Liverpool fan. I didn’t go to Kiev so I don’t have any big debt hanging over me and I didn’t pay an extortionate amount for a ticket either. But many did and are probably still not bitter although they have every right to be, especially those who had last minute flights cancelled. This is not about Liverpool. If we are lucky we will have the same problem next year. If not, it will be fans of two other teams being ripped off.

UEFA don’t give one sh*t about the fans. Don’t tell me that there are not back handlers going on to secure venues. They are all corrupt. Platini even admitted doctoring the draw and you only have to look at the stuff that came out of FIFA to see what goes on.

What’s any of this got to do with Liverpool sponsors? I would say that a majority of multi-national companies are unethical in some way, even if its only avoiding tax. It’s up to individuals as to whether they boycott those companies. Some people might not like tax avoiders, some might not like sweatshop labour, others might not like destruction of the environment. What I am talking about here is a boycott of products for a specific reason - exploitation of football fans. These companies are probably already feeling a small effect of FIFA’s corruption. How many of those in debt to go to a final will be buying lager or new Nissan cars?

I don’t think many ordinary football supporters will be buying Gazprom shares anyway but they could certainly get fuel elsewhere. I have a Mastercard but I could easily get another debit card if I was supporting action. I don’t drink Heineken but there are plenty of other lagers if I want a drink. I don’t have a Nissan but J would not choose them if I was changing my VW. Who needs Sony? There are plenty of others who supply similar products. I wouldn’t drink Pepsi if you paid me, I value my intestines. As for Uni Credit I’m not even going to mention them.

I never said I was going to do this as I don’t have the time or expertise. Although I may write to the CEOs of some of these companies telling them about the actions of the people who are taking their sponsor money. If I do, I’ll let you know how I get on.

I do t really know what the answer is but the problems will die down until next May and nothing will still have been done.

I used to run teams in Junior football leagues in Liverpool. Every year each league used to get 4 FA cup final tickets. At the meeting the Cgairman would ask if anyone wanted them. If it wasn’t Liverpool or Everton in the final nobody wanted them. If LFC or EFC were in the final they had to go into a ballot. The point I’m making is that they use the excuse of going to the football family but they know damn well that all they are doing is making ordinary fans pay exhorbitant prices.

The only thing I do know is that nobody in YEFA or the FA will do anything about it unless you hit them where it hurts - in the pocket.

{Ed002's Note - You have no idea about any of this at all I am afraid. You are simply a bitter fan with an extremely stupid idea about boycotting UEFA sponsors because they won't do anything about a Liverpool player getting injured or not having a bigger and lighter football so the Liverpool goalkeeper can catch it - or whatever you ridiculous complaint is about. No one cares about your campaign and your gripes except perhaps some other stupid Liverpool fans - I assume you have some gang with similar ideas to cripple UEFA this way - is this a SOS plot? Certainly UEFA don't care, FIFA sure as hell won't, other clubs won't and fans of other clubs will of course have something more to laugh at.

But you must let us know how your campaign to bring UEFA to their knees gets on.}

8.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 18:53:25
Wow Ed002, you sure know all the h***** up things about Liverpool. Wouldn’t want to end up in a debate against you.

On a side note, you had mentioned you are not that big a fan of any clubs (just a soft spot for one club), does it make it hard to follow them as a fan given you look at it as business than recreation?

{Ed002's Note - I don't follow anyone as a fan. I go to a few games each year - perhaps something I am dragged along to by one of my wives, occasionally a Chelsea game, perhaps something I am obliged to attend (although fortunately that forced need ended a couple of years ago) and maybe a Champions League game if the teams are interesting or a charity match if there are people involved I know well. I have support for Chelsea and will look at their results - as I do with several other sides around the world, but am certainly not a fan, just a supporter. And not one who cares about results particularly - they are simply transient moments in time.}

9.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 19:13:59
Who comes up with these air-brained schemes, exactly?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool supporters it appears.}

10.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 19:17:16
Ed002 boils my p*ss on some occasions, but this time he is completely right
No love in for ed002, im just saying he is talking complete sense with this one.
We’ll be laughing stock if this goes any further
The games finished, the seasons finished, we move o .

{Ed002's Note - I boil your "p*ss". That is a first and I will take it as a compliment but I do charge extra for such services. Do you want to be my Jones Crusher? Just thought this would be an appropriate time to ask.

11.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 20:06:13
You haven’t understood a word I said. It has got absolutely nothing to do with Salah getting injured or Karius flapping balls into the net. That was the original post but I was talking about UEFA exploiting supporters with regard to allocation of tickets and choice of venues. What is bitter about that? Did you go to Kiev and pay about 2 grand for a ticket, and over a grand for a flight and nearly another grand for a hotel room? Probably not as you don’t support Liverpool.

However it has got nothing to do with Liverpool. The same happens at every final and UEFA are not bothered one iota because they’ve had their sponsorship money, they’ve had their backhander to play it in somebody’s country and they’ve had their ticket money. It’s alright for you, you! re not paying for it, you’re just sitting behind a keyboard slagging someone off.

I never said I was starting a campaign, I said that it’s the only way I can think of that will shift them out if their complacency.

The reason those companies pay UEFA sponsorship money is because they know lots of football supporters but their products. Let’s say for example we choose just one of those companies Heineken and all football supporters in the UK who are up to here with the exploitation decided not to buy Geineken lager for 3 months, what do you think would happen? They’d want to know why and once they knew, maybe they would pull their sponsorship from UEFA and spend it elsewhere.

Who knows whether this would work or not but it’s better than doing nothing and just accepting that they will endure people are ripped off again.

Please surprise me by putting up this post, as my experience of some of the Eds on here is that they don’t put up posts that disagree with them or threaten to block you from the site. I was once blocked for saying Katius was a liability. Seems rather ironic now.

{Ed002's Note - UEFA were not exploiting supporters about the venue or tickets - talk to the club about the ticket allocation. The venue is a movable feast and they look to allocate fairly. You don’t understand how UEFA and FIFA work - your idea is stupid and you will get zero support - as I said no one will be interested and in terms of sponsorship Liverpool are probably the most irresponsible side in England.}

12.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 20:59:00
Sounds good ed
Urban dictionary is a big help
Just domt try and get me on the “wonder dog” at any time
🧐.

13.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 21:41:41
Thanks for putting up the last post Ed002. I don’t want to keep this up tit for tat even though I’ve enjoyed the banter with you, but I haven’t been able to concentrate on Britain’s Got Talent to do it.

I do realise that UEFA don’t charge the exhorbitant prices it’s rhe black market, but my point is that by giving just over 16,000 out of 63,000 for each team it is them who create that black market. Also, I know they choose venues in advance but the cities that are awarded them should have to fulfill minimum criteria with regards to hotel availability and flight landing slots.

You don’t have to reply to this as I know you are busy with the Fabinho news. Just shows how long we’ve been bantering in this point as we’ve signed (subject to the usual) right in the middle of it.

{Ed002's Note - The landing issue was caused by the charter airlines looking for last minute slots at only one airport. They are the ones to speak to. Enjoy your evening.}

14.) 28 May 2018
28 May 2018 21:55:43
Classic Ed002 😄👏.