27 Apr 2018 16:21:21
Okay now this has gone too far in my opinion.

I have been a member of this site since before you could even have a username. Gradually, over the last few years, too many people have slowly tried to stamp out anyone who tries to be unique or original. You are either swimming with the tide or you get drowned!

The worst thing is, I don't think people even know they are doing it. Because I refuse to believe that any of you are bad people.

I admit that I have been a part of the problem. I can't even remember the last time bobatron posted. He made one mistake on a financial matter and shortly after the excessive ridicule, he disappeared off the site. He was a fantastic poster as well. I rarely agreed with him. But I respected his opinions. In hindsight, I did not convey that respect appropriately because I doubt he knew how much I valued his input. I regret that and if you are lurking mate, I apologise and look forward to your return.

Some of you may not know that Ed002 does this free of charge. Just think about that for one second.

This is an extremely busy man who travels far and wide and doesn't even have a settled home. But he MAKES the time for US. He replies continuously with such vast detail, inside knowledge, and depth of financial understanding. Some of his replies must take hours of research and time to write them so coherently.

Not only this though, the man also spends even more of his own time creating extremely entertaining podcasts to round up all the transfer information he is privy to. He does this for multiple clubs across the site and gets nothing in return.

Another thing which has not once been given the thanks and respect it deserves, is that Ed002 put his hand in his own pocket to pay for his team's kit in the upcoming charity match. That is money that would otherwise have been deducted from the coffers and is possibly the largest individual contribution to the whole event after its organiser, Benny Baller.

Ed002 gave an opinion some people didn't like. So what?

I judge each post as a one off, but there are cliques forming on here of late. You think people don't notice that some people can get a totally different reaction for the same post, just because of their username?

Now clearly, a fair few people have taken issue with Ed002. Yes, he doesn't sugar coat it for you so his opinions can be a bitter pill to swallow. If you don't like them though, just explain respectfully why you disagree. We don't need the constant "well what about Chelsea" or "you just hate Klopp". No, they are just his honest opinions. Deal with it.

Another thing, is you don't know what people are going through in real life. Look at the former Everton poster GrumpyToffee (RIP) . Gone forever. A huge part of the site who fought demons in private that we had no idea of. Let that be a lesson to you all to treat people kindly whilst you have the chance; regardless of whether you know them. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

So when Ed002 snaps at people who belittle his opinion, maybe you should just give HIM the benefit of the doubt. Because you don't even see the abuse that gets cut by editing! Maybe Ed002 was wrong to retaliate, but if you want to blame him for lashing out, first off you need to blame the people who make him feel targeted on a weekly basis.

For the love of Fowler, just let people have an opinion without cracking out the "you should take a break" or "that is inflammatory" nonsense. You are only offended by an opinion if you choose to be. Counter arguments are great. But don't belittle the originator or suggest their opinion is outrageous. Everyone has a logical reason for their opinion and it is very hard to write it down in full.

Ed002 has done the mature thing of taking himself out of the situation because he was letting someone drag him down to a level he tries his hardest to be above. Yet people still refuse to drop it. I mean come on? If someone walks away in real life, are you "that guy" who follows them and carries it on? Because that is the way you are representing yourselves.

Maybe, just Maybe, if you can't handle an opinion that doesn't fit your own ideologies and agendas, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

Freedom of Speech is a wonderful thing. In a world of censorship and political correctness, this site could be the shining light of honesty and brutal opinions. It took me far too long to learn this. All the years I wasted at peoples throats being a total knob head, I can't take back. I was a kid but that is no excuse.

All I am asking is that everyone learns to tolerate one another, and for the posters newer to the site or younger than me, don't make the mistakes I have.

By all means, disagree with eachother. But attack the opinion, and not it's originator. If you can't do that, then expect a retaliation because you damn well deserve it.

"Controversy equalizes fools and wise men in the same way - and the fools know it" Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr

Ed002 is a very wise man. Unfortunately, too many people deliberately wind him up for having a blunt neutral view, and he replies with things out of character and yes, sometimes harsh or even nasty. But the rest of us see straight through the foolish behaviour that dragged him down to their level, because we know that if a salmon wants to beat a Cheetah in a race it will invite it into the water first.

I don't want to believe for one second that anybody on here is actually a fool in reality. However, I think social media has changed society in a toxic way. The way people speak to each other online? It just wouldn't happen if you were face to face. You listen to people in real life and take in everything. Body language, tone of voice, what you know about them as a person etc.

Online, people struggle to see the wood for the trees and that is a huge shame. Because it turns intelligent and interesting people into trolls and keyboard warriors. I will reiterate that I know I have been guilty of everything I'm ranting about in the past. But I am really making an effort lately to be nicer to everyone in every walk of life, and it has opened my eyes to just how nasty we are to each other over bloody football of all things.

So next time Ed002 or anyone for that matter, retaliates or decides to take a break; ask yourself "why? " and just leave them be. It is hard enough to see the demons people are fighting when you are face to face, let alone online. Ed002 is an brilliant man who gives more to us than we can ever reasonably expect for what he gets in return.

I apologise for the rant. We are all good people who look after our familes, or work, or study etc. We have families, friends or pets who depend on us. We lead our own lives and Liverpool and football brings us all together to this very place. Opinions will inevitably clash, but we as people don't have to. Football is better than that. WE are better than that.

Holy hell, now I need a break!


1.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:25:01
Pardon my ignorance but what happened?


2.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:26:01
Well said MK.


3.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:33:18
Well said MK.


4.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:36:24
Same old Seano. Ed002 gave an opinion. People started on him. He gave a bit back. Then the thread got deleted. Ed decided to take a break. And people stabbed him in the back as he walked away.

Another day in the cage.


5.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:37:33
Post of the year mate, nice one. I do think Ed002 can be condescending with his replies sometimes but I have immense respect for everything he does for this site and us posters. Like you say we don’t see the things he gets sent. I wish we could all respect eachothers opinions without getting offended or being rude and condescending, but some people don’t see to be mature enough for that.


6.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:38:04
MK sorry but your post as long as it is epitomises the point people where trying to convey. Yes Ed2s input is of value but the undertone and retorts he conveys often are of a inflammatory nature. There is no need to reply to any member in such a fashion. Also if a member did so in the same fashion the post would be blocked from being published so it should not be allowed from an admin member either.

I can understand that it must be frustrating to repeatedly answer the same question but again there is no need to be derogatory when doing so which is often the case from Ed2.

The other main Eds on this page don't feel the need to be so abrupt to other posters so I don't see the value in your post taking a one sided viewpoint on this in order to be of equal thinking you first also need to appreciate both sides of the coin, a point I feel you have missed somewhat.

This is not aimed as an argumentative post simply to highlight my own opinion that I feel you have missed.

Again in closing I do, as I'm sure others do, value Ed2's information and time but when it is purveyed in a palatable way.

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry but you are typical of those that thinks they know what is going on but doesn't have a damn clue. If people would stop wasting everyone's time with repetitive questions, abusive snide comments and then jumping on anything they don't like we would not have lost over 30 editors since we started. People like Macca would not stay away for months on end because of the crap. I don't know why I am wasting my time even replying, as it will not help, people will continue to constantly post the same damn post repeatedly because they are so up their own arse they think it is only their question that matters and choose to get offended if asked or told to read instead of wasting our time.

The problem is here if Ed002 says anything tongue-in-cheek you are all quick to be offended, apparently few of you are capable of doing anything other than respond with threats and abuse.

And if you don't think we feel the need to be so abrupt you are wrong.}


7.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:39:01
Brilliant post mk.


8.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:49:06
My word MK. I read half of that monster.

At the end you could have called me out specifically for a paragraph long of abuse but I'm going to go ahead and agree with everything you said anyway based on the first half.


9.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:51:01
I'm really sorry to hear that you get threats Ed001, and that we as a collective have bullied 30 Editors away.

{Ed001's Note - not your fault mate, it is probably a lot more than 30 to be honest. Very few stay once they see what it is like behind the screen, so to speak. I mean I have to be honest I try not to get involved any more in giving an opinion when I am thinking about. It is just not worth the hassle.}


10.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:52:41
Ed002 gave his opinion on Gerrard to Rangers rumor. Someone took offence to Ed002 being brutally honest (to which most 'sane' would of agreed with his assessment) and pretty much started calling Ed002 out.

Some people develop unhealthy 'feelings' for football players, the kind of feelings you'd have if your cult leader asked you to drink koolaid, and take football way too serious.

End of the day Gerrard was a footballer, great on the pitch, questionable outside of it. Ed gave his opinion, and some trolls got angry about it.

I mean their replies to ed were cringe worthy, something along the lines of Gerrard can walk on water, turn water to wine, and can redeem the whole human race, so how dare you ed give an honest and unbiased review of him.


11.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:54:03
Seano - I was online as the exchange was happening. I don't remember the first part, word for word, (now deleted), but I'll summarize from memory (anyone should correct me if I'm wrong) .

A poster asked the question of whether Rangers were interested in Steven Gerrard. Or the question could have been "why" Rangers were interested in Gerrard, am not sure. Ed002 answered with his opinion of Gerrard. The poster took offense at Ed002's reply and replied with what is still posted.

And then it descended into some namecalling and absolutely irrelevant nonsense, and bringing in various references to God, by others, which ruffled additonal feathers.

It was shocking to be reading it at the time, and I had posted my intial response on the thread. In a nutshell, it's there to read.


12.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 16:54:50
That is a shame Davey Sulls, as the last 3 paragraphs were all about how much I dislike you in particular 😉 I knew I should have led with them!


13.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:01:43
Sorry Ed1 I stand by my post. I have no issues with jokes and tongue in cheek responses that's all part of the site, swearing at people and calling others names that of which Ed2 posted would not be allowed from a user and thus should not from an editor.

I have not made any "snide comments" and I have allowed to the fact the repetitiveness must be annoying, but why not just not allow the post rather than allow it and have to respond?

Again I don't agree with the stick Macca received either but its all about having a healthy respect from one another and there are many times all users are branded with the same brush because of the select idiots from a user end perspective.

I do not condone abuse of the Eds and have not suggested that either. I do not feel my option is wrong but I'm open enough to appreciate other opinions rather than follow the crowd.

{Ed001's Note - you are just annoying me now. Why do we even bother to waste our time reading those posts to just not allow them without responding? If you ever had actually had to do this, you would know that sitting reading these comments for hours a day can be mindnumbingly boring if you don't interact and respond. If we don't put the odd repeat post up to tell people to read the posts, they don't bother reading through as they only read their own posts from what we can tell. Now please just drop this, you haven't a bloody clue what it is like and are just criticising what you don't understand.}


14.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:08:04
Sorry but can't agree. There is little argument for me to justify some of his responses. Clearly he gets frustrated, but some of the responses on here are unnecessary. he's never snapped at me, but i've been embarrassed by some of his responses to others. If he is lost to the site then his knowledge is a great loss. The fact that this the only thing that will be missed is indicative of his attitude towards the users.


15.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:19:40
Again Ed1 I've said twice I agree the repetitiveness must be annoying but yes let's move on from this.

{Ed001's Note - you do not know though so why do you think you have any kind of insight to tell us what we should or shouldn't do? Don't bother replying, just think about the fact that you haven't a single solitary clue what goes on other than what we show you. If people knew what we had to deal with, they would not be so keen on certain posters that regularly have to change their name and get banned repeatedly for their constant abuse of all and sundry, for instance. They would also understand why we snap at times and stop being so damn high and mighty when we do on their moral high horse telling us how we were in the wrong totally and how they know better than us.}


16.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:25:03
Its unfortunate if Ed002 is offended. I very much value his input and his posts/ relies have been very enlightening. However, I don’t always like his replies or his tone, but he/ she has earned the right to make them. We don’t have to read them, or believe them. There’s no one on here that’s not at least a little bit biased, either for or against the club, the team, various players or the supporters. So let’s keep it polite, let the Eds know we are grateful for their efforts, but continue to have a million points of view, and lots of banter.
Which reminds me, Milner gets a few put downs on here, but I think he’s made the posters eat their words lately. 😉.


17.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:40:52
Got you MK - it seems cyclical to be honest. Things will be fine for a while, then someone will ask something repetitive or get on there high horse, ED will give a terse response, original commentator will get offended, and then the abuse will flow. I think this is a cracking website but, like many media platforms, it will always have a certain percentage cause troubles.


18.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:41:44
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I have met Tristan (ed001) I have worked with him and consider him a friend. We have had dinner, he’s even met my mrs. Luckily she didn’t fall for him. On top of that we spend hours and hours chatting on skype. The other owner of the site, Phil, who actually created the site, worked with me on my own website, free of charge, another I now consider a friend. I am also working with him on his first ever app ( for this site ) . These are great blokes.
I have picked up snippets along the way of Ed002, even conversed with him from my time as an editor. It was an honour to quiz him privately during that time. All I’ll say is, with his connections, relationships and job, anyone who ever abuses him is a complete and utter ***king moron. You literally have no clue to how good you have it on this site for information. Ed002 could slap my mum and I’d still trust every word he says. You’ve cut your noses to spite your faces. Any abusers, heck even 002 lovers, should be on their hands and knees because you won’t find another person in his position to give you needy leeches (abusers ) what he can give you.
These are great people, I wonder what would happen if the site was shut for a day .
Benny out.


19.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:43:10
I'm sorry for having this opinion (I feel that this is the way I am expected to begin this post) but I too agree with JC. I doubt there is one person on here that doesn't value 002's information and time given to this site, and I for one, genuinely thank him (and the rest of you) for that. However, the condescending and derogatory tone to often innocuous questions is what gets people's goat. When he can openly refer to c***sucking to decribe someone, just for disagreeing and posters can't even get away with saying we played s**t, it irritates people further. It just smacks of a one-way, 'my opinion is fact' and there can never be any debate like we see amongst posters and various other ed's. We are (mostly) adults. Let's all act like one.

{Ed001's Note - if that is enough for you to justify it, I fear for you. Why should you be able to say that? Why not use your brain to explain what went wrong instead of a moronic 'we played ****' post? You can't have a conversation with someone whose only answer is 'we were ****'. If that irritates you, then you really need to get out more or go and play on twatter with the morons that will think that is a highly insightful breakdown of the play.}


20.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:46:27
I've been a forum moderator and a game moderator in my previous internet 'lives', and it wears you the hell out.

Ed002's made a few pointed comments in his time, but pretty much nothing that isn't actually true, if you think about it. And y'know, you can always not read his comments if you find him too blunt.

The Eds have told us in as many words that there's a mountain of crap that's unpostable here, and because they run this website and are responsible for the legality of what goes through, they don't have the luxury not reading what they don't like. I guarantee you if I had to read through that, I'd have either packed it in, or said things that make Ed002 look like a kitten by now.

The guy clearly cares about this website from the amount of time he's put into it, so I'd cut him a bit of slack if he doesn't worship at the same footballing altars we do.


21.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 17:47:05
The information on this site from all the EDs, but ED002 especially gives out info and is clearly informed.
He tries to give his knowledge to inform us and give a better understanding of how clubs/ teams/ players contracts etc are run.
We as fans think we know but clearly we do not.
He like everyone else has an opinion. Lots of it is tongue in cheek, but is taken seriously by the poster.
I have been on the receiving end before, but took it on the chin and moved on. His opinion was not the same as mine. So be it.
This site is being ruined by the few, not the many.
Hope fully ED002 is still reading and see that he has the backing of the majority on this fantastic knowledgeable site.
Macca gets the same abuse, yet all he is trying to do is keep us informed with insider info.
I also remember the old days of this site when we used to read hilarious sightings and stories of uncles in burger vans saw X going into Liverpool.
Imagine if this site shut down and the EDs walked away?
Knowledge is a wonderful thing and i for one would miss the updates and debates.
Hopefully ED002 will be back soon so that we can learn from his knowledge and expertise in footballing matters.


22.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:03:47
I will take your word for it Benny, but I did rather suspect that we were very, very fortunate to have Ed002 as a source of information!

I still wow my mates when I recite his rumours or financial insight! I'll miss that if he left, but I wouldn't blame him at all.

I've never been an admin on this site, but I have done it elsewhere and the stuff you have to delete is shocking. I get the impression that a lot of people don't realise just how shocking. And I was admin on a page that only got 600 hits a day!


23.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:18:20
Great post MK.
It’s very easy for a keyboard warrior to sit in a dark room writing rubbish without any regard for who has to read their rubbish.
As is typical in todays society, some people on this site show no class and show no respect to the Ed’s or other posters just because they do not share their opinions.
This is football, we are Liverpool supporters, we all have different options, it is not life or death. A little respect goes a long way.


24.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:01:41
This is why you are my favourite poster MK. That's the best post I have ever read on here and I've read tons of great posts, take a bow mate. I completely agree with everything there. I'd now like to think people will think a little before they post.


25.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:21:57
@ MK.

And you always get the same few types of people too, right? Aside from the guys who just plain out do not want to do anything other than wish terminal diseases on other posters (and they're always about 42 years old) you get the free speech warriors who half read the First Amendment of the US Constitution once and think its a universal right that applies everywhere at all times and will invoke it if you say anything at all to them. And the smart arses who constantly PM you with "X posted this and you did Y about it, but in 2013, Z posted this and the other moderator did A about it instead. WHERE'S THE CONSISTENCY? "

Imagine that times 1000. That's what the Ed's life when they log onto this place.

Plus loads of "when's the next sharkpod? " "please adjudicate on Liverpool's interest on these random players. " "why hasn't Klopp signed *insert possibly available player here*? ", and sensible answers have at least a 50% chance of being rejected or questioned to the point of ludicrousness, to boot.

But oh no, Ed002 said something slightly mean about Steven Gerrard. Let's fight with him over it. That's a good plan, clearly.


26.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:23:19
Nice little post MK . I take it you had the day off work today mate 😉.


27.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:26:05
MK I have replied, but on another thread by accident. If it gets posted you will see it. A friend that still reads this site saw it and alerted me.

Regards,

Bobatron.

{Ed001's Note - I am not going to post up that on another thread: "A friend who still monitors this site aleterted to the post MK.

For the record. I left Because of the matters of when you proved ED01 or 02 wrong factually, they didn't post your replies.

That was why I walked away."

That's the gist of your argument, the rest was your subjective and quite frankly nasty character assassination, which was why your replies kept getting deleted, nothing to do with you 'proving' anything, it was the nastiness of your personal comments. You seem to be a close minded person who complains that someone might have changed their view over a period of months. Not sure why that is a problem, it is called learning.}


28.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:42:14
Well said mk and Benny and everyone in between who’s thinking/ behaving/ posting with a smidgin of sense and maturity. I’ve already said it today but I’ll say it again- the Ed’s are incredible at what they do and reap little reward for what they do- to some of us living lives in the actual world- we appreciate how much this site means to us. To the minority- away you go under your bridges. Twitter is calling. As much as I would hate it- perhaps Benny makes a point. What would the little snakes do if the site shut down for a day? Probably bitch and moan and feel aggrieved and threaten and slither away. The rest of us would probably nod and raise a glass to the Ed’s in the hope they’re having a nice day off.


29.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:47:50
Been a regular visitor for many years but never posted.

As soon as I started reading the OP and saw the length I knew it would be MK! In all seriousness I completely agree with everything that was said. This site is a free to use "rumour site" and shoukd be used to converse and have some fun. Saying that, the information we receive from the EDs is far more reliable than most other sources, Sly, most journos etc and they are paid handsomely for their reports/ findings however wrong they normally tend to be.

Respect is something often lost on the internet and the anonymity of social media allows for idiots and "trolls" which is a major problem in today's world.


30.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 18:52:24
Personally I like ED002, he doesn’t suffer fools gladly and is as neutral as you can get, look at the responses he gives to fans of other clubs and you’ll see that he doesn’t pull punches anywhere and those snowflakes who think he’s being harsh on Liverpool then you’re wrong. Ed is a funny bloke who clearly knows his stuff. If you don’t like his opinion or thoughts, it’s fine to disagree, we don’t all have to agree on things, but manners cost nothing. If you’re reading this Ed002, ***k the haters. They’re not worth crossing the street to p*ss on it they were on fire.


31.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:02:07
Sometimes it astounds me as to how lacking in respect some people are.

Then I remember that we're on a faceless platform - guaranteed that 99.9% of the nasty bits said to you, the Editors and anyone else who (God forbid) share their opinion/ factual knowledge, would never be said face to face.

I bite back sometimes when someone is cheeky with me, but generally, the only thing to do is not waste your time replying mate.

There are plenty of positive posters on here to intelligently debate with and avoid the others MK - trust me, it's the best decision you could make and never stop expressing your opinion mate.

Have a great weekend all!


32.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:07:02
At the end of the day the website is the “property” of the editors.
Our posts are published because they allow them to be.
Our opinions are read because they allow them to be, without their time, this site would be silent.

Sure you might not like Ed002’s tone, you might not like his response. Sadly that is the way it is and you have to suck it up or move on.

The Ed’s run this site, they make the rules. We don’t get the right to tell them anything without their permission.

Be thankful that they let us use the site, I, for one, am very grateful 👏.


33.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:13:55
Sorry Ed. I really don't wish to antagonise you further. I was meaning that in terms of not being able to say the word s**t, not literally 'we were s**t'. I realise that phrase would be of no use to any debate, in isolation anyway.


34.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:20:10
Got ya Bardzo, sorry I understand what you mean now. Usually we editors don't swear either, and I personally don't see the problem with having to be creative with your usage of words. Usually when someone just wants to swear it is in a post that tends to be of little value anyway, as they just want to abuse someone or slag someone off rather than thinking about their words.


35.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:23:28
I’ve disagreed with Ed002 a couple of times, especially on the merits of this breakaway league for example but i've always been polite and put my points across and have always ended up having a very good debate with him.

He’s a completely reasonable fella even when he thinks your wrong you just need to show him the respect you expect back yourself that’s all, not too much to ask.

Hope your not away for too long Ed002, your input and knowledge is probably the number 1 reason I use this site.


36.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:42:47
I sometimes post on another LFC internet forum.

Last summer I posted on that site that I thought Henry and the owners would sell Coutinho if Barcelona offered 150 million pounds. I said it would be good business.

I also added that I was sick of Coutinho's antics, and wanted him gone.

I was taken aback by the abuse I got. I was ridiculed as being clueless. This included snide comments directed at me by one of the moderators.

When I defended myself, I was given a temporary ban from the site.

It turned out I was just 4 million pounds short, and 4 months early, in my prediction.

So I have learned that LFC fans are a particularly closed-minded, clannish bunch. If you have an opinion that the majority do not agree with, they will bully you.

So I am not the least surprised that Ed002 has been chased away. He was tooth much of an independent thinker, and too knowledgeable, to appeal to the average LFC internet fan.

I love LFC. I wish I could say the same about some of our fans.


37.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:51:08
Guys, we’re on the verge of something special this year. Let’s talk football, have a bit of banter and respect everyone on here who contributes, whether they are a poster or an Ed, or whether you agree with them or not.

I read the posts on this site every day and got banned once for criticising Karius. But I’m not going to dwell on it and spoil the enjoyment I get from reading people’s opinions.

When I first found the site, the posts from all clubs were in the same page and you had to scroll down for ages to find the Liverpool rumours. The site has come a long way and is the best on the web. Let’s not spoil it.


38.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 19:55:08
I am very sad to read that Ed002 has this site. He has an impressive insight in the everything that goes on in the game of the field, that we have very few channels to get an insight in. I love reading his (and the other Eds comments and insight), even if I not always like the fact that are presented to me, but they are facts and info that gives me further insight and depths in understanding.

I can only imagine what kind of comments that are deleted, and I do not envy the eds the job to read through all that. You eds are all doing a really amazing job for all of us that like football. Thank you.

I really hope that Ed002 are coming back to this site one day (hopefully soon), because I for one will surely miss your amazing knowledge and ability to share that knowledge.


39.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 20:00:53
I have been on most, if not all of the other 'Rumours' sites recently (though not the Fleetwood Mac one) and the Liverpool and Man Utd pages appear to be by far the busiest. It is no wonder that visitors of these two seem to illicit the more provocative replies from Eds or other posters, as there will a higher proportion of idiots posting on them.

The trouble when you are mediating over an area which incurs varying opinons is you will get a spectrum of people on both sides of an argument from 'ok, fair enough, I respect your opinion' all the way to 'you're a ****, you're wrong', especially when the posters are mostly anonymous. This follows that, the trouble with anonymous forums with actual moderation is that it is really difficult to keep a code of ethics without inflicting a view of 'no debate'. Populations have problems with the police when they get hypocritical in their 'do as i say, not as I do' attitude and that is when uprisings or protests occur. It may be a microcosm of real life but it is what it is, just in smaller terms. Equally, when protests do occur or even when someone or some people do disagree a certain few will take it too far.

Strange allegories aside, it is, no doubt easier to keep the narkier replies in your mind for longer, as with reviews of something creative or driving confrontations or rude people in queues etc. We all focus on the negative and let it get to us easier and remember it for longer. I am very much someone who can't gloss over things that irritate me quickly and nor, I suspect, am I the only one like that who uses (or edits) this site. I wouldn't want the job of having to deal with all the itty bitty bits of nonsense and to have to sift through all the dross. You all have my respect for that nonetheless.

If he does it for free, I don't know why ed002 does indeed edit this site, but whatever he gets from it I hope he can still enjoy sharing the information and knowledge that we all appreciate very much.


40.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 20:28:55
This one has clearly divided opinion and every one has their own opinion. But I'd like to pick up on something Ron said about people choosing if they accept their posts etc. Well surely it works both ways? You can't be critical of people posting offensive posts whilst at the same time be responsible for posting offensive comments. Cheap comments because someone doesn't agree with your post, however uneducated that opinion maybe is not a position to claim the moral high ground.
Making a silly post does not require a personal insult. Just like the eds do not deserve any abuse for providing their opinion.
There is no justification for derogatory comments on this site, whoever the perpetrator. How difficult would it be for abusive posts not to be shown?


41.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 21:03:56
Let's be honest, ed02 wife number 36 (aka the stalker) got a hold of his address after he disclosed his location on a post asking for the sharkopod for the umpteenth time. Any body would be on the edge after that!


42.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 20:59:43
I’ve been following this site for quite a few years and have on occasion posted as well. Now, people need to understand that the eds do this for free. The information provided by the eds, specifically ed002 is invaluable. I’ve posted questions and the eds have responded very politely to the same. Now I know ed002 can be harsh sometimes but people need to understand the amount of posts and crap they have to deal with on a daily basis is obscene. There have been times when I’ve thought that ed002’s response was harsh but rather than bitching about it, I’ve tried understanding it and moving on. I don’t know ed002 personally but I can tell he is an important person just by the information he provides. People need to stop thinking that he has an agenda against us Liverpool fans, he is harsh on other pages as well, so don’t think we’re special in this regard.
Also all the eds do all of this for free, if you like it stay put if you don’t just move on. You don’t need to be disrespectful. Now the post that started it all was about Gerrard. Now gerrard is my all time favourite player but none what ed002 said was wrong even if a little harsh.
Respect earns you respect. Also I don’t get why people are so sensitive about anything and everything now a days. I mean, so ed002 is brutally honest, man up, face it and if you can’t just move on.
Ed002 and all the other eds the majority of us respect you for all you do. Please don’t let a few people ruin this platform for the others.
In closing ed001, if you can convey our apologies to ed002 and ask him to keep enlightening us, we’ll all be grateful.
Thank you.


43.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 21:25:46
Simply if Ed's 002 isn't on here I'll be on less, learnt so much from him. Very sad day.


44.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 21:50:42
By the way, good post MK.


45.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 22:30:45
Crikey Eds, nice way to spend you’re day. I mean, why would you want to meet up with a few mates on a Friday when you could be dealing with 💩 like this.

Shame some have to spoil things for others but hey ho, that’s life. We’re all different. I just hope those that can’t take a difference of opinion aren’t the ones that are moaning when we have no sharkopod but somehow I suspect they will be.

Lighten up people. It’s not a matter of life or death so live and let live.

Good luck to the boys tomo.


46.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 22:32:12
I hope Ed2 has seen this thread, I hope he knows how much he is appreciated more then the minority who don't appreciate what they should. I'm genuinely bothered, the fella might not come back and that's a massive loss not only to our page but to others as well.


47.) 27 Apr 2018
27 Apr 2018 23:17:54
i enjoyed your post MK, don't understand the 22 dislikes. in fact don't understand the lack of respect everyone has for one another.


48.) 28 Apr 2018
28 Apr 2018 21:37:00
Glad that the options have been justified across the majority 👍🏻.