06 Apr 2018 12:56:42
Hey MK, I saw your note below about not posting anymore. You obviously have your reasons for doing this and you’ve kept the specifics private but I assume that one of the reasons is some of the more critical feedback you’ve received from your recent posts and articles, if I’m wrong then ignore this but if I’m not then there’s a couple of things I'd like to say.

We’re all similar in that we hold strong opinions about football and Liverpool and like sharing those thoughts with others. The great thing about this site is that it gives you a forum to discuss your interests with other people who are similarly invested (we’re quite rare in the real world) . The problem is that we’re all stubborn and we’re not always open to people who point out the flaws in our viewpoints.

Your recent article on footballers wages was a good example of this. Your central point that footballers are worth what they get paid is one I happen to agree with. Where you went wrong was a slightly clumsy comparison to nurses and soldiers which, when you were challenged about it, you refused to back down on. I think you could have taken a closer look at what others were saying to see if you had misjudged your tone.

You suggested that you’re going to restrict yourself to the occasional article and I urge you not to reconsider. Pundits are paid to have opinions but they’re rarely challenged on them, this leads them to expressing poorly thought out ideas because they’re not required to justify them. We all say things that people disagree with and sometimes we say things that are stupid, by engaging with a site like this your views can be challenged and, if you can successfully get people to agree with you, you can be reassured that your point is valid. But if you get a big backlash like you did on the wages article, you can take it as a sign that you got something wrong, revaluate and hone your point of view.

My favourite people on this site are the ones who can really demonstrate a unique and measured voice. I think you’re still finding yours and you need to embrace feedback not reject it. I think you entertain the idea of writing about football seriously, maybe even doing it professionally, this site is an excellent learning environment for such aspirations. It’s really nice when people compliment you on what you write but you won’t learn anything from that, it’s the criticism that will help you develop and you’ll get plenty of that here (just ignore the toxic stuff) .

I hope you do come back mate as you've got a lot to offer.


1.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 13:29:59
Seconded. I don't post much on here but read near daily, and appreciate your input MK. One of the people who I've come to slow down and read more carefully when you post, as I've consistently felt like it's worth the time to pay attention.

Keep at it.


2.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 13:38:45
Excellent post Putney and really well put together. There are few long standing respected members of the site that contribute to its ongoing "good read" obviously we all have to put up with the idiots as well but that comes hand in hand with the good.

MK I echo Putney if indeed your stance is one of a reaction to what others have purveyed then learn take it on the chin and go again.

I personally never noticed your post as I've been too busy eating five course meals and sailing the Caribbean of late but your posts have always held value previously.


3.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 14:33:21
Great post Putney, very well put mate.


4.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 15:06:23
Dude needs a few days off then get posting again one of my favourite posters on here.
If the reason is just the replys don't worry about it. Me Harry waro probably get the worst stick on here but don't let people get to you.
This site is a great platform for us supporters to have a chance to express our views regardless if they are agreed with or not. I hope to be reading your posts soon.


5.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 15:11:42
I've got to say I agree with the sentiments above.

MK, I've often agreed with your posts on here, and enjoy reading your articles, but at the same time nobody will ever agree with everything you write, it just doesn't happen. Unfortunately, i've found myself not responding to some of your posts or articles when I disagree, not because I don't think you can "take it", but because you can come across as quite hurt sometimes when someone disagrees with you, and for the sake of an internet message board, I don't really want to be someone who contributes to that.

I think you're a very eloquent writer, I think you speak with a lot of passion and knowledge, and a lot of the more learned posters generally tend to agree with your point of view, but I think you (personally and from a "quality of writing" point of view) would benefit greatly from taking on board dissenting opinions about what you write, and not get so hung up on trying to back up your original point at all costs.

Don't get me wrong, the very nature of this site means that now that you've got a reputation as someone with strong opinions and who's not afraid to show them, that means you will attract more "you're wrong/ you're dumb/ i'm going to disagree for the sake of it" comments from the less sensible among us, and I can see why that would make anyone defensive, especially when it seems to happen to you more than others, but just rise above, use it all to improve, and relax a lil. If anyone ever daubs "MK OUT! " graffiti on your wall, i'll be the first to come bust some heads with you, but comments on a forum are just voices in the wind, they're nothing until you use them for either positive or negative purposes, and i'd urge you to use them as positive, as this forum wouldn't be the same without your input.

Jesus that was a ramble, I shouldn't do this while at work!


6.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 15:13:15
I am a long time reader, however my posts are very few and far between. I felt compelled to log in and second this thread though. I always stop and read when I see an MK Scouser post, I really enjoy your posts Adam. Your articles are also fantastic. Hopefully you're just taking a break and will return when the dust has settled. The site will be poorer for not having your frequent input. All the best mate.


7.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 16:20:34
Mk this site is all about opinions mate and who cares how many people agree or disagree with yours. This isn't a popularity contest and it's not like any of our comments are going to change anything at the club we all love. Keep posting and if people don't like what you have to say then they have the option of either debating it with you or skipping past it.


8.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 16:43:59
In couple of word I would be really sad if he does leave. I enjoy reading his stuff and as mentioned time is well spent reading his work, one of the best posts here are his. Hope he is taking just a break and will be back soon.


9.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 16:49:56
Your just behind 001/ 002 in the pay attention to stakes MK, don't let the Muppet's get you down.


10.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 17:33:29
No one deserves abuse. But if you write and articulate your thoughts in an open forum, you must expect criticism and disagreements. I respect and enjoy MK's input on the site, but he did write a controversial article which garnered critiques of his point. I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with people having the right of reply - free speech works both ways. I hope MK reconsiders his stance and comes back to the site.


11.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 18:02:51
Saw the original post, didn’t think the replies were that bad but maybe I missed some.

Agree with John Lennon. Take the disagreements and move on. I thought the original article was some time ago so I’m surprised if it’s still rumbling on.

Maybe I’ve missed something over the last week, not been on much.


12.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 18:17:45
Come back whenever you feel like it, MK. Your input is always welcome as you are one of the few on here who actually knows what the word debate is and actually embraces it.


13.) 06 Apr 2018
06 Apr 2018 23:23:40
Thank you for the kind words guys but I think everyone has the wrong end of the stick. I will still be responding to questions and article requests.

It is just too time consuming to get involved in every debate. Time is of a premium to me right now as a lot of people I care about are very ill. I Don't want to elaborate anymore than that though so please don't press for details.


14.) 07 Apr 2018
07 Apr 2018 08:03:23
Understood MK. My thoughts are with you and your family.


15.) 07 Apr 2018
07 Apr 2018 09:28:10
Thanks for understanding Putney. You're fast becoming my favourite poster so keep up the good work mate.